August 2, 2025 • 16 mins
During “Girl Talk” Jerrilyn and Lynee’ have a riveting conversation about some of the things women, particularly black women, express themselves by their appearance. But what about in the workplace? What are some things you should and should not do regarding your appearance in the workplace.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now what you won't do what they show up at
the workplace looking crazy. Can we have some girls talk room?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yeah, let's do it. What's going on? Women? Especially Black women?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
You know, we change our parents every day, whether it's
the hair, the makeup and nails, need that person, dress.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Tattoos, piercings, whatever.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
How do you find a healthy balance in the workplace
because we have non traditional jobs, you know, so we
don't necessarily have to have our nails a certain length,
in our hair certain type of color or things like that.
But I just remember being at companies and they would
restrict literally how we look.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, and you know what, it's conditioned.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I will say that that a workplace can definitely give
me the outline of like what I can and cannot wear.
But I think because I come from a place where
I was always like a supervisor.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I know, I could have.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Never thought that in charge, large and in charge that
was me, big boo.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I was definitely a supervisor.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So I think I just want to be a proper
representation for my team.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It was like, I'm not going to come in here.
How I would go out.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
We was going out for girls, not your ladies, and
night also for me it's just like, I just don't
want to show up like that too, Like I want
to conduct myself in the most professional way ever, because
when you already come with the nails, and you already
come with the hair and you're attractive, people already are
prejudging you. So it's very important that you conduct yourself
and that you wear certain things to present well. Like
(01:25):
I want to represent black women in a beautiful way,
you know what I'm saying. And I hate that, you know,
there are stereotypes where you wear certain things and people
say certain things about you. But I just don't want
to start off like that. Like when you interact with me,
I want you to see something that's.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Like, Okay, I think too. I love that you made
that point, and I think too.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Sometimes the argument is that black women are a multitude
of different things, and we're not going to just show
up one way because we.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Are so many things. And so that leads us to.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Have a conversation about you know, cause people are like, well,
we're not being racist, we're just saying be professional, okay,
and professional for the longest time has been akin to whiteness. Yeah,
And so when you think about that, that's not what
I think them. I mean I don't think it. Yeah,
I'm gonna say when I think of professional, I don't
think about that. The hair, the nails never changed and
their hair is always changing. That's still been me my
(02:16):
whole life. I think that the booths out weren't really
low shirts with your chitties up and little teeny shorts
like shorts.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And things like that.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I think those are the things that I'm like, I
wouldn't do that in the workplace and then try to
put on a blazer with that outfit and make it
like business cash.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Wasn't there someone who.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Wore blazer and some booty shorts to a god Christians.
It's escaping me at the moment. I can't think of Jesus, Jesus,
Jesus Cheesus, my God on today.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Who could you possibly be talking about having.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
The foggiest I did actually actually I don't know. Oh
inappropriate though, yeah, needless to say.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
And people that she's not a pastor, she's not da
da da da da da da.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Still you in the house of the Lord, have some
respect for the thing that you're going to do. And
I think that's that's what people are saying, like, just
have some respect for the thing that you're going to do.
I think over policing women's hair and nails and clothing
is a problem.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
So don't come up in here.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
If I can see the dark part of your booty cheek, hello,
if I can see the little dark cup part right there,
I'm gonna have to ask you, hey, and go ahead
and clock out for the immediately.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
And why you want them booty cheeks to touch people chairs?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
You don't know what's what's going on with them.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Chairs or your booty girl. Y'all too free with them cheeks.
Y'all put them up, put them checks out, and stop
doing that, because I'm tired of see. I'm tired of
seeing that.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Brian, Like, how do y'all feel so comfortable seeing your
bed booty on people's seats? Well, you can ask Lizzo
because she went to the Lakers game and she had
the Prince outfit with the booty cut.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Out and that I was.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I mean, listen, people can do what they want to do.
My daddy has always told me this. That's sure, you
can do whatever you want to do, but you've got
to also understand that you cannot control people's perception of
what you put out.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
That is sure.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
If you don't want to be perceived a certain type
of way, certain things you shouldn't, okay, and it may
not be one hundred percent right or fair, but that's
just the way it is right now.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So when there's a time where.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
We can all show up to work in booty shorts,
in our breasts out with shirts, right, what.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Are we talking everybodys to the kickback?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Because it's obviously not a job, and now we having
a shouldn't it exactly?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Lord?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
But when it comes to that head, don't talk about
my head. Don't say nothing about my head. If a
woman wants to come with her natural hair out, you
not have the right to tell her she's being unprofessional.
When it comes to her nails with everly well girl
out to hear is a bit.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It get a little crazy and unsanitary.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Girl start curving and not you handling the food. I
just you know what I'm saying. It do get a
little crazy with that. But if she want to wear
her nails like normal limp people may say, we have
long nails, but like that's what the lady at the.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Nail shop said, She said, you like your nails long? Huh?
I said, don't seem long. Six women in my apartment
company longer nails. That's right, Like, what do you mean? Right?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
So I just think certain things you should leave off
the table. But attire, yeah, I'm gonna have to say
that's unprofessional if you or just be covered.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, Like I'm not even what to wear.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I'm just saying I shouldn't see this crack part of
your boob, and I shouldn't see the dark part of
your boot. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It's all I'm saying that. And you can't just put
a blazer on and make some shape exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I mean you can, but you gotta be down at
the pink pussy cat, damn at the pink look.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I was born by the river.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I was shaking it open, I was getting I'm sorry,
I'm glad you a thank you, And you know what
else really bothers me too. I think that the natural
hair has been demonized for so long. But the thing
(06:05):
that I really can't stand is people will tell you, oh,
I love natural hair on women.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I love natural hair, and is there another natural in
the room with us?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I'm natural about the same natural when you see baby,
this's up under hair.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It's a reason why my hair is always braided.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I don't have the energy or the time to be
flat ironing and blow drying and stilk pressing like I'm
just I'm simply not gonna just the process. So I've
chosen to just keep my hair braided because it's simple
and easy.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I can get up and go. I don't have a
whole lot of maintenance.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
My hair is healthy up under here, and I don't
have to just be up doing a bunch of stuff.
But people will look you dead in the face and
say I love natural hair, and then when.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You take your brains nowt one not at their house
after work. I'm sorry, what's so perfect so nervous for
that man?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I'm sorry, No, I'm just kidding. You know what's so
funny about him? But I should not be my business
from hair, But my dude, he don't care about my
natural hair. Like he's literally the first person who ever
in my life, ever in my life, who was just
okay with my natural hair, not like a not a
back handed joke compliment or anything, not a slick remark like.
(07:17):
I've never gotten that from him, And it's so odd
because we were raised to kind of hate our hair.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And that's exactly where I was going from.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
It's like I have the same thing, like the hair
stay braided up under the wig because it's just such
a long, tedious process.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
And it does not mean because people will.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Interpret this and say they hate their hair, I do
not hate my hair at all. I hate doing it
though I do hate the process. But when I see myself,
I don't hate my hair. I just know that it
is time consuming for me and I just don't got
the time, you know what I mean. People who I
admire natural girls because they literally are dedicated to figuring
out everything that their hair needs, how to make it
(07:58):
the best hair that it could possibly be in all
of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
For me, it's just easier.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
But Brady's cornrows and get them the cleo from set
it off real quick.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Ain't going to that's it. It's got.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
If I was on work ahead of me, I'm not
gonna spend two right here. I'm telling you trying to
float down and roll and permit it. It's just a lot,
you know what I mean. And that's why I said
I commend them. But back to what I was saying.
At a young age, we were conditioned to like think
our hair is unmanageable. I mean, so many women would
tell you that's why they hear so sure because they
got a perm in the third grade, you know what
(08:29):
I mean. And I just understand where they coming from
when they say, ma'am, your hair is not short at
forty two because you got a perm thirty years her story,
that's her test. The moment lady is lying like, I
don't know who the woman is, but if you friends
will the name and she talking about you being head,
I want you to know that you're a ball headed lie.
(08:51):
No okay, No, I just want you to enough Yoh,
being is beautiful, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Period.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So I just felt like we struggle in this area
because we weren't taught to embrace it.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
There were some women who were, but there was.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
A lot of women who weren't who struggled who actually
do hate their hair.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
And so I think me and you have kind of
figured out like how to manage it.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
But then you have women who unable.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
To get breaks, unable to buy wigs, and so even
though they hate their hair, that's just what they have
to do, you know what I'm saying. And it can
play a part on your insecurities, like it can make
you really insecure, especially if you're dealing with people who
don't accept you and your row on like when you
can get your hair done, or like what I wish
a man would because the way I'm wouldn't even know
(09:39):
his name.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
No, my hand already lost six. Don't ever say that.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Don't ever feel comfortable to ever say that. When you're
gonna get your hair done, I have an answer for
you right around the time you put some money in
my head. Hello, because see the cash out answered a
lot of questions for somebody who ain't finally asked my life.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You I'm saying that they listen.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
People are I always have something to say, and I
think this is we always go left field.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
But like I want to talk about black hair, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Because I feel like we like people say that they
like it, but we know that that's not really the
case all the time, because you know what they see
they see when they think natural hair, they.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Think the girl with the big curly Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
You know what I'm saying, Like this is luxurian look
a different type of texture like a two sea or
three C baby, it's over here.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It's for zzs.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Okay, I ain't mixed with nothing but black Africa black black,
and in black that would be me as well.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And so they don't think about four sea hair or beyond.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
They always think about that pearl pattern just like easy
to manage. And I'm not taking away from anything, but
I promise you here's a lot easier to manage and
foreseat hair.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I'm sorry, I have to go on the record and say,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
So they think that you're going to wake up with
these luxurious curls.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
You know, James, that was never mind who you thought
I was exactly you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
That ain't it when you see me and it's given
and it's sticking that like so hey, it's Franklin, what
you're gonna do when my son is smushed?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
But you know what it's given?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Frederick Douglass And let me say this, Prodrick even know
all the aside, like even the fact that we're sitting
here and making jokes about it, like that's that's the
part that I'm talking about, Like we have literally been
conditioned to find our own hair texture and pattern unfavorable. Yeah,
(11:47):
and it grows out of my and no, I'm part
of the four Sea community. So hey, I'm not making
no judgment because that's how my hair is.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
So I could talk about it because it's mine. Y'all
not gonna make me seem like I'm making fun of y'all,
because I would never.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I'm dealing with this because I like French doesn't take
my brains down nor damn bit.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Okay, I don't look like.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
It's a.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Strong because you never just took your brains. I'm going
to stop, right.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
You just looked in the mirror and it was and
it was given, was given eighteen sixty.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
One, like what is that? Are we cleaning? That's going
no master coming around the corner like she.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Made the way that hair looked tough and even.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
You know, no, dla, I got I gotta recept hold on.
Oh my god, I have tears in my house to
get it together. What would you saying? Lord? Yes? Please young?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Oh my god, god dog.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
This is the dumbest podcast. Girl.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Nobody's gonna find this.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Stream.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Oh my goodness, Oh Lord, Lord Mary, say if.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
They put a picture of Lord Dan Barry, I'm there, hey.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yang cry okay, I'm good all right. And then walks
gonna go get t shoe and you don't need Lord,
I don't even need it. Okay, Jesus, that was funny
as hell. They're gonna be mad as hell about this one.
They just gotta be mad because I can good with hair, so.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Y'all can die. You know what I'm saying about it?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
When I take these brains out, baby girl, it's rough
and tough with man, mostly tough, I tell you, for real,
it's stick up here. And people just don't like. People
don't understand, Like who wants to when you think about
what we do for a living. Yeah, girl, I'm on
a plane at least both of us are on a
(14:20):
plane at least once a month, I'm telling you minimum.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So I just don't have the time.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Like and then the girls that baby Instagram is not
for just wake up out the bed and go No.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
You can maybe try that over on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
But when you're on social media, like, people want to
see you put together in some kind of way.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
So and so if you like, I've I've just.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Started doing a full face of makeup to do like
my my YouTube stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
For girl, I ain't want to do it. I ain't
want to do it because I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I'm not a I don't consider myself like a super
girly girl, so I was never gonna do nothing related
with hair. Yeah, but you know, like I'm just getting
into the makeup stuff. Like once I learn how to
do my makeup, it was over for these girls. I'm
not paying one hundred and fifty dollars ever every single
time you need your makeup never, it's crazy. It's well
worth learning how to do it on your own. And y'all,
YouTube is free, and even though you may think that
(15:10):
it's tedious, it's worth learning because you're going to spend
so much more money paying somebody.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
To do it then versus just learning how to do
it yourself.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
You know, so I think taking advantage of that is
definitely worth your girl.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Now, we can say that about makeup, but hair is different.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
It is different because you know what I hear from
the natural hair girls is that like you will have
to go through so many products before you actually find
out what works for your hair, and it can get
really expensive. Like you just be like you can get
a little lipstick for five dollars if you don't like it.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
We don't like that no more.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
But when you buy a conditioner and detangular and just
leaving conditioning, then you got to get something to level
out your phe balance in your hair. Like that's something
new that I just learned about that, Like the pH
balance of your hair is now I can't control one.
I'm sick of this. It's the battle probiotics. I'm eating
a yo.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Girl. I can't do.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I stopped missing with that, dude, I don't need to
control I want phes. I'm done.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
It's crazy. It's a whole process.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
And the natural girl is to tell you, like it's
expensive to be natural full time, you know, and then
when you I mean maybe if you had, like I
don't know, people just when you're an entrepreneur, like stuff
ain't just as steady and stable as people might always think.
And so I'm not interested in I just got five
hundred dollars and now I got to spend two hundred
(16:28):
of it on hair products.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
And then that's gonna take me hour and a half
of the mornings.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I don't have time for that. You know, It's time
consuming and a lot of people just simply don't want
to do it. And I think black women as a
whole should uh invest in paying.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Somebody to do things that they don't want to do. Yeah.
If you got the phones, I don't see why not. Yeah. Period,
All my ways is free. Okay, listen by name on
the squad moment you heard come on me A shameless brother,
that's what you got, friends,
Now what you won't do what they show up at
the workplace looking crazy. Can we have some girls talk room?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yeah, let's do it. What's going on? Women? Especially Black women?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
You know, we change our parents every day, whether it's
the hair, the makeup and nails, need that person, dress.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Tattoos, piercings, whatever.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
How do you find a healthy balance in the workplace
because we have non traditional jobs, you know, so we
don't necessarily have to have our nails a certain length,
in our hair certain type of color or things like that.
But I just remember being at companies and they would
restrict literally how we look.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, and you know what, it's conditioned.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I will say that that a workplace can definitely give
me the outline of like what I can and cannot wear.
But I think because I come from a place where
I was always like a supervisor.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I know, I could have.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Never thought that in charge, large and in charge that
was me, big boo.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I was definitely a supervisor.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So I think I just want to be a proper
representation for my team.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It was like, I'm not going to come in here.
How I would go out.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
We was going out for girls, not your ladies, and
night also for me it's just like, I just don't
want to show up like that too, Like I want
to conduct myself in the most professional way ever, because
when you already come with the nails, and you already
come with the hair and you're attractive, people already are
prejudging you. So it's very important that you conduct yourself
and that you wear certain things to present well. Like
(01:25):
I want to represent black women in a beautiful way,
you know what I'm saying. And I hate that, you know,
there are stereotypes where you wear certain things and people
say certain things about you. But I just don't want
to start off like that. Like when you interact with me,
I want you to see something that's.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Like, Okay, I think too. I love that you made
that point, and I think too.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Sometimes the argument is that black women are a multitude
of different things, and we're not going to just show
up one way because we.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Are so many things. And so that leads us to.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Have a conversation about you know, cause people are like, well,
we're not being racist, we're just saying be professional, okay,
and professional for the longest time has been akin to whiteness. Yeah,
And so when you think about that, that's not what
I think them. I mean I don't think it. Yeah,
I'm gonna say when I think of professional, I don't
think about that. The hair, the nails never changed and
their hair is always changing. That's still been me my
(02:16):
whole life. I think that the booths out weren't really
low shirts with your chitties up and little teeny shorts
like shorts.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And things like that.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I think those are the things that I'm like, I
wouldn't do that in the workplace and then try to
put on a blazer with that outfit and make it
like business cash.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Wasn't there someone who.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Wore blazer and some booty shorts to a god Christians.
It's escaping me at the moment. I can't think of Jesus, Jesus,
Jesus Cheesus, my God on today.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Who could you possibly be talking about having.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
The foggiest I did actually actually I don't know. Oh
inappropriate though, yeah, needless to say.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
And people that she's not a pastor, she's not da
da da da da da da.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Still you in the house of the Lord, have some
respect for the thing that you're going to do. And
I think that's that's what people are saying, like, just
have some respect for the thing that you're going to do.
I think over policing women's hair and nails and clothing
is a problem.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
So don't come up in here.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
If I can see the dark part of your booty cheek, hello,
if I can see the little dark cup part right there,
I'm gonna have to ask you, hey, and go ahead
and clock out for the immediately.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
And why you want them booty cheeks to touch people chairs?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
You don't know what's what's going on with them.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Chairs or your booty girl. Y'all too free with them cheeks.
Y'all put them up, put them checks out, and stop
doing that, because I'm tired of see. I'm tired of
seeing that.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Brian, Like, how do y'all feel so comfortable seeing your
bed booty on people's seats? Well, you can ask Lizzo
because she went to the Lakers game and she had
the Prince outfit with the booty cut.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Out and that I was.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I mean, listen, people can do what they want to do.
My daddy has always told me this. That's sure, you
can do whatever you want to do, but you've got
to also understand that you cannot control people's perception of
what you put out.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
That is sure.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
If you don't want to be perceived a certain type
of way, certain things you shouldn't, okay, and it may
not be one hundred percent right or fair, but that's
just the way it is right now.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So when there's a time where.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
We can all show up to work in booty shorts,
in our breasts out with shirts, right, what.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Are we talking everybodys to the kickback?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Because it's obviously not a job, and now we having
a shouldn't it exactly?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Lord?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
But when it comes to that head, don't talk about
my head. Don't say nothing about my head. If a
woman wants to come with her natural hair out, you
not have the right to tell her she's being unprofessional.
When it comes to her nails with everly well girl
out to hear is a bit.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It get a little crazy and unsanitary.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Girl start curving and not you handling the food. I
just you know what I'm saying. It do get a
little crazy with that. But if she want to wear
her nails like normal limp people may say, we have
long nails, but like that's what the lady at the.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Nail shop said, She said, you like your nails long? Huh?
I said, don't seem long. Six women in my apartment
company longer nails. That's right, Like, what do you mean? Right?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
So I just think certain things you should leave off
the table. But attire, yeah, I'm gonna have to say
that's unprofessional if you or just be covered.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, Like I'm not even what to wear.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I'm just saying I shouldn't see this crack part of
your boob, and I shouldn't see the dark part of
your boot. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It's all I'm saying that. And you can't just put
a blazer on and make some shape exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I mean you can, but you gotta be down at
the pink pussy cat, damn at the pink look.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I was born by the river.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I was shaking it open, I was getting I'm sorry,
I'm glad you a thank you, And you know what
else really bothers me too. I think that the natural
hair has been demonized for so long. But the thing
(06:05):
that I really can't stand is people will tell you, oh,
I love natural hair on women.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I love natural hair, and is there another natural in
the room with us?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I'm natural about the same natural when you see baby,
this's up under hair.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It's a reason why my hair is always braided.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I don't have the energy or the time to be
flat ironing and blow drying and stilk pressing like I'm
just I'm simply not gonna just the process. So I've
chosen to just keep my hair braided because it's simple
and easy.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I can get up and go. I don't have a
whole lot of maintenance.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
My hair is healthy up under here, and I don't
have to just be up doing a bunch of stuff.
But people will look you dead in the face and
say I love natural hair, and then when.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You take your brains nowt one not at their house
after work. I'm sorry, what's so perfect so nervous for
that man?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I'm sorry, No, I'm just kidding. You know what's so
funny about him? But I should not be my business
from hair, But my dude, he don't care about my
natural hair. Like he's literally the first person who ever
in my life, ever in my life, who was just
okay with my natural hair, not like a not a
back handed joke compliment or anything, not a slick remark like.
(07:17):
I've never gotten that from him, And it's so odd
because we were raised to kind of hate our hair.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And that's exactly where I was going from.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
It's like I have the same thing, like the hair
stay braided up under the wig because it's just such
a long, tedious process.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
And it does not mean because people will.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Interpret this and say they hate their hair, I do
not hate my hair at all. I hate doing it
though I do hate the process. But when I see myself,
I don't hate my hair. I just know that it
is time consuming for me and I just don't got
the time, you know what I mean. People who I
admire natural girls because they literally are dedicated to figuring
out everything that their hair needs, how to make it
(07:58):
the best hair that it could possibly be in all
of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
For me, it's just easier.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
But Brady's cornrows and get them the cleo from set
it off real quick.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Ain't going to that's it. It's got.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
If I was on work ahead of me, I'm not
gonna spend two right here. I'm telling you trying to
float down and roll and permit it. It's just a lot,
you know what I mean. And that's why I said
I commend them. But back to what I was saying.
At a young age, we were conditioned to like think
our hair is unmanageable. I mean, so many women would
tell you that's why they hear so sure because they
got a perm in the third grade, you know what
(08:29):
I mean. And I just understand where they coming from
when they say, ma'am, your hair is not short at
forty two because you got a perm thirty years her story,
that's her test. The moment lady is lying like, I
don't know who the woman is, but if you friends
will the name and she talking about you being head,
I want you to know that you're a ball headed lie.
(08:51):
No okay, No, I just want you to enough Yoh,
being is beautiful, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Period.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So I just felt like we struggle in this area
because we weren't taught to embrace it.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
There were some women who were, but there was.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
A lot of women who weren't who struggled who actually
do hate their hair.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
And so I think me and you have kind of
figured out like how to manage it.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
But then you have women who unable.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
To get breaks, unable to buy wigs, and so even
though they hate their hair, that's just what they have
to do, you know what I'm saying. And it can
play a part on your insecurities, like it can make
you really insecure, especially if you're dealing with people who
don't accept you and your row on like when you
can get your hair done, or like what I wish
a man would because the way I'm wouldn't even know
(09:39):
his name.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
No, my hand already lost six. Don't ever say that.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Don't ever feel comfortable to ever say that. When you're
gonna get your hair done, I have an answer for
you right around the time you put some money in
my head. Hello, because see the cash out answered a
lot of questions for somebody who ain't finally asked my life.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You I'm saying that they listen.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
People are I always have something to say, and I
think this is we always go left field.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
But like I want to talk about black hair, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Because I feel like we like people say that they
like it, but we know that that's not really the
case all the time, because you know what they see
they see when they think natural hair, they.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Think the girl with the big curly Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
You know what I'm saying, Like this is luxurian look
a different type of texture like a two sea or
three C baby, it's over here.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It's for zzs.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Okay, I ain't mixed with nothing but black Africa black black,
and in black that would be me as well.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And so they don't think about four sea hair or beyond.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
They always think about that pearl pattern just like easy
to manage. And I'm not taking away from anything, but
I promise you here's a lot easier to manage and
foreseat hair.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I'm sorry, I have to go on the record and say,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
So they think that you're going to wake up with
these luxurious curls.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
You know, James, that was never mind who you thought
I was exactly you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
That ain't it when you see me and it's given
and it's sticking that like so hey, it's Franklin, what
you're gonna do when my son is smushed?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
But you know what it's given?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Frederick Douglass And let me say this, Prodrick even know
all the aside, like even the fact that we're sitting
here and making jokes about it, like that's that's the
part that I'm talking about, Like we have literally been
conditioned to find our own hair texture and pattern unfavorable. Yeah,
(11:47):
and it grows out of my and no, I'm part
of the four Sea community. So hey, I'm not making
no judgment because that's how my hair is.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
So I could talk about it because it's mine. Y'all
not gonna make me seem like I'm making fun of y'all,
because I would never.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I'm dealing with this because I like French doesn't take
my brains down nor damn bit.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Okay, I don't look like.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
It's a.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Strong because you never just took your brains. I'm going
to stop, right.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
You just looked in the mirror and it was and
it was given, was given eighteen sixty.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
One, like what is that? Are we cleaning? That's going
no master coming around the corner like she.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Made the way that hair looked tough and even.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
You know, no, dla, I got I gotta recept hold on.
Oh my god, I have tears in my house to
get it together. What would you saying? Lord? Yes? Please young?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Oh my god, god dog.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
This is the dumbest podcast. Girl.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Nobody's gonna find this.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Stream.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Oh my goodness, Oh Lord, Lord Mary, say if.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
They put a picture of Lord Dan Barry, I'm there, hey.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yang cry okay, I'm good all right. And then walks
gonna go get t shoe and you don't need Lord,
I don't even need it. Okay, Jesus, that was funny
as hell. They're gonna be mad as hell about this one.
They just gotta be mad because I can good with hair, so.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Y'all can die. You know what I'm saying about it?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
When I take these brains out, baby girl, it's rough
and tough with man, mostly tough, I tell you, for real,
it's stick up here. And people just don't like. People
don't understand, Like who wants to when you think about
what we do for a living. Yeah, girl, I'm on
a plane at least both of us are on a
(14:20):
plane at least once a month, I'm telling you minimum.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So I just don't have the time.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Like and then the girls that baby Instagram is not
for just wake up out the bed and go No.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
You can maybe try that over on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
But when you're on social media, like, people want to
see you put together in some kind of way.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
So and so if you like, I've I've just.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Started doing a full face of makeup to do like
my my YouTube stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
For girl, I ain't want to do it. I ain't
want to do it because I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I'm not a I don't consider myself like a super
girly girl, so I was never gonna do nothing related
with hair. Yeah, but you know, like I'm just getting
into the makeup stuff. Like once I learn how to
do my makeup, it was over for these girls. I'm
not paying one hundred and fifty dollars ever every single
time you need your makeup never, it's crazy. It's well
worth learning how to do it on your own. And y'all,
YouTube is free, and even though you may think that
(15:10):
it's tedious, it's worth learning because you're going to spend
so much more money paying somebody.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
To do it then versus just learning how to do
it yourself.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
You know, so I think taking advantage of that is
definitely worth your girl.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Now, we can say that about makeup, but hair is different.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
It is different because you know what I hear from
the natural hair girls is that like you will have
to go through so many products before you actually find
out what works for your hair, and it can get
really expensive. Like you just be like you can get
a little lipstick for five dollars if you don't like it.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
We don't like that no more.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
But when you buy a conditioner and detangular and just
leaving conditioning, then you got to get something to level
out your phe balance in your hair. Like that's something
new that I just learned about that, Like the pH
balance of your hair is now I can't control one.
I'm sick of this. It's the battle probiotics. I'm eating
a yo.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Girl. I can't do.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I stopped missing with that, dude, I don't need to
control I want phes. I'm done.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
It's crazy. It's a whole process.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
And the natural girl is to tell you, like it's
expensive to be natural full time, you know, and then
when you I mean maybe if you had, like I
don't know, people just when you're an entrepreneur, like stuff
ain't just as steady and stable as people might always think.
And so I'm not interested in I just got five
hundred dollars and now I got to spend two hundred
(16:28):
of it on hair products.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
And then that's gonna take me hour and a half
of the mornings.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I don't have time for that. You know, It's time
consuming and a lot of people just simply don't want
to do it. And I think black women as a
whole should uh invest in paying.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Somebody to do things that they don't want to do. Yeah.
If you got the phones, I don't see why not. Yeah. Period,
All my ways is free. Okay, listen by name on
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