October 16, 2025 • 33 mins
Episode 74 of She Said It First is the perfect mix of therapy, foolishness, and girl math. Jerrilyn Lake (aka Indeskribeabull) and Lynee’ Monae are back in person and on a roll, kicking things off with What Irritated Me the Most This Week, where Jerrilyn calls out her rebellious dog, Toto, for testing her authority like a toddler with fur. Meanwhile, Lynee’ vents about her therapist turning the tables and diagnosing her as the problem — the ultimate betrayal. Between dog drama and therapy trauma, the ladies agree: sometimes healing feels a lot like being humbled.
In Girl, What Happened, the conversation turns to Young Thug’s viral comments about why his girlfriend doesn’t “need” therapy — because apparently, talking to him is enough. The ladies immediately sound the alarm on narcissism, dragging men who confuse control with love and wisdom with Wi-Fi. With their signature humor and clarity, they unpack how therapy isn’t weakness, it’s maintenance — and why your “OGs” from the block are not a substitute for licensed professionals. They also tear into the idea that women’s worth is tied to marriage and motherhood, hilariously reminding nosy relatives to “swallow your tongue and go to hell” before asking, “when you gonna have a baby?” Jerrilyn and Lynee’ also mention Kai Cenat celebrating 1 million subscribers on Twitch by cutting his dreads. They spoke about what they would do when they hit that milestone across various social media platforms.
Finally, in Girl Talk, Jerrilyn and Lynee’ celebrate women in the WNBA for demanding fair pay and knowing their worth, tying it back to their own experiences of advocating for themselves in corporate jobs and creative spaces. The episode wraps with a candid, hilarious reflection on “the pivot” — how both hosts have learned to reinvent themselves, build new lanes, and turn side quests into paychecks. Whether they’re dragging toxic men, corporate underpay, or bad advice, one thing’s clear: She Said It First is where laughter and life lessons go hand in hand — and sometimes off-script.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's up, everybody. It's your girl Indescribable aka Jerling Lake
checking in with none other than my bestie for the
rest of you, Lenae Monette, and you are listening to this,
she said the first podcast and eurber one podcast on
the eurby one podcast network. Here. Yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am,
we is the best. Yes, I love our in person empisode.
(00:23):
I love him so much, And I just want to
take a second to say what irritated me this week?
Because y'all thought I was gonna say something nice and
I'm not. Let me tell you about what it's rood
of me to not let you ask what irritated you heard?
Got some So glad you asked, yes, girl, why Total
been trying me? Total my terrible to My dog has
(00:47):
been trying me, y'all, and he thinks he's slick. So
what he does is when I tell him to go
to his place, I said, go home. Go home means
go to your cage. What this negro been doing? I'll say, Total,
go home. He'll walk halfway there and turn around and
look back. I said, so you go home, and then
he'll try to go. Now I meant what I said,
(01:09):
go ahead and go. He tested your friend to see, like,
let me see if she's gonna do an exactly look
back now now, when I gave your chest in Wait
a minute, hold on, wait a just kidding you better bed,
I'm going to go on the girl the way that dog,
Oh my god, you can't. When you when you see
him and spend time with him, you will understand that
(01:29):
dog has never been abused by me, at least the
way he be jumping up in my face and like
if you flinched at him, he wouldn't even do it.
You don't even know what that means. He don't know
what I mean. You know, Yes, tod On sleeps in
my bed because that's my son, and he's spoiled. He
get full baths, and I take him to the vent
and I buy him snacks and I got him some
little outfits and stuff because that's my son. That's all
(01:51):
I was. I was taking her back. I was so
taken aback when he was disobedient and rebellious. I didn't
know what to do. I wanted to call my mama
and asks for advice. You never raised the dog. I'm Aryan,
and the only experience I had with dogs, they snack up,
periad There lots of experience that you should know exactly
what to do. Welcome, I know how to walk a
(02:15):
doll okay, but like that, Okay, so what this week?
Girl friends see me? Don't you hate when you go
to therapy by the way, please go talk Please go
talk to that lady. Don't you hate when you go
to therapy and you venting you saying anything because you
know that this was done to you, you have been
done wrong, and you find out that you're the problem.
(02:39):
Given car it's really giving cardiover. I'm the drama for real,
Like I just didn't know that. You know what I'm saying.
I'm expressive, you know you know how I get it.
I'm really telling you because I want you to. I
want you to have all the details. You can see
what they've went wrong and how wrong they've done me. Yeah,
that woman looked at me and said, I think you
(03:01):
might need a psychiatry a minute psychiadress, Yes, they said,
I think somebody the prescripul us something. Yeah, a little
tag on the side stashing on night dans get you together.
So I was kind of taken back by that information
to say, hope, hopefully you at least felt like a
(03:26):
release when you was able to share it. So upset
with her, I got mad at her. Ball your face
because because why I'm up saying this sport therapist, I
love going to mind, he's the problem. You gotta keep
going on. Friends think I'm fire. No, you can't do that.
I think that was the last self. I'm just calling
you from here because let me tell you, that's my friend.
(03:48):
She always gonna stick me aside. I'm like, that's what
it's about, work, make the dream work. I like that.
I can't be nobody's therapist because I know my advice
be wrong. I just please don't do as I say,
not as I do. That's what I've been trying to
tell you. Can I'm gonna tell you right now. My
actra is not gonna mess my words. Now. I might
be telling you because I girl, we could talk for
(04:09):
I know, right, But I be having situations where I'd
be like, well, this is what you need to do, friend,
and it's so easy, and I be in the same
situation trying to figure out what to do.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Girl.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
So I don't understand why we can so clearly see
what everybody else is doing. Wrong and not what we're
doing with It's literally like them people in the comments.
See we relate to y'all in them comments. Y'all knew
all of this when the home dirty. You ain't taking
care of none of them kids. You ain't working three days.
You said you down and out, and you got the
nerve to be talking about me online. So we get
it and have not washed that. Okay, that's that'd be
(04:39):
the main one looking a profile. Tail of ass, wake up,
but po is not in the cup, y'all problem, Just
be on that ad. I ain't ready on that. They
have the bark stays And why do you have bark stays?
Did you dreag your ass up a tree? Oh my god,
(05:08):
I have to stop acting like this. Okay, Oh my gosh, girl,
have you ever so something happened? Have you ever just
looked at somebody differently after they maybe shaved their beard
or took their glasses office something like that? The beard? God,
don't don't date people with beers. I was talking to
this dude. I thought he was fine with a Oh honey,
(05:31):
he showed me a picture. You need to ask that
on the first date. Let me see you without the
bit he looked like somebody who like hands some squidward
walk in stat the picture of handsome is that man.
I'm sorry to that man. I would that man me today?
She just as sorry to that man. I just girl.
(05:52):
He was ugly too. That's another thing he changed from
fine to life was ugly after the beer. Yes, if
he did an old friend, don't date me and would
be if on the first day asked them to show
you a picture, because that's what you're going against when
you have a baby like you got. It's fifty fifty changs.
They might look like you, but there's a fifty fifty
chance that they could might look like that beerless man.
(06:12):
You hear me, okay, and you just don't want to
It's risky, you know, that's risky behavior. You want to
make sure that you see all okay, make sure you
choose d all of the above. We just want to
make sure you got options. I definitely understand that, and
I'm asking that because well, something happened, girl, what happened?
(06:36):
But Kyson I hit a million streams? Okay? And yes,
Lebron James came to cut off his hair to celebrate
him getting to a million streamers. Why was that the choice,
because it's nothing else we could have done. I think
ain't popping bottles. He just wanted something to keep the
people subscribed. I'm sure if you start looking different, I'm subscribing.
(07:00):
What happened? Oh God, you don't look back. Oh I
haven't seen him. I appreciate. Here put a picture so
we see. I love hairless cost but I'm a fan
of low cut Caesus with the deep way. I love
a good low cut me personally, Okay, I'm not really
a hair person. So when I saw him, I was like,
I was like, oh, this must investigated young man. I
(07:22):
mean he's also like twelve, so you know, hold on, friend,
hold on, go ahead, looking up, look at I must
know haircut. Hold on, hold on, cut, haircut, haircut. Here
we go, let's see what we're talking about. Okay, he
has some right, he is handsome. He looks even younger.
(07:45):
I don't want to get out of here immediately before
I get arrested. Okay I can't. I can't have that
on my phone. But he's a handsome young man. And
so I'm like, well, now I'm wondering what what should
we do when we hit a million subscribers? Because you're
not gonna take you right now. I'm not shaved, man,
I'm not taking my wig off. I've done that already.
You've seen the Whig reviews already. I don't need to
keep doing that. Now, what I might do, I might do. Look,
(08:09):
let me see what can we do to really commemorate, Like,
what's a milestone celebration that we really like? It's gotta
be something god diving. Okay, okay, friend, we had a
million Oh okay, what I'm gonna do with my wig?
Now that wig is gonna be Now, you got to know,
got the secure the wig. I'm gonna get some brades.
I can't mess around with that to do that, okay,
(08:30):
because what we won't do is be looking for that
thing over Shannon Dog Valley because where in the world
is Carmen wig Diego? Where is the wig? Guys? Yeah,
we're gonna go sky diving. That we're gonna do. That's crazy.
You heard it here. First, we will now which platform? Instagram? Facebook?
(08:50):
Too many platforms? Friends, let's do when we when? Okay,
whichever one you're closest to. Okay, I'm I'm like seven
hundred something on No, I'm not ready it's no on TikTok.
I'm at like nine you gotta you gotta get ready.
We gotta do Vega. We got that for Thanksgiving, y'all.
(09:15):
Oh jeez, I'm already a nine thousand scams. You might
as well. Okay, friend, I feel I see we're gonna
thank my god, Oh my god. Y'all. Right now let me,
I gotta put my wig with my mouth. Let me.
I'm gonna go take right now. Please gonna subscribe right now,
(09:40):
and I mean immediately. How I'm a thrown seeker. Though
we got to do this. I think it'd be fun.
I think it'd be funky. So okay, speaking of well,
I'm just it's gonna be a terrible sick. But it's
it's not gonna be fun, guys, I'm sorry. Let me
just switch gears for a second. But we talked a
little bit about therapy, and I think that now it's
(10:01):
a good time to talk about this recent clip that's
been floating around of young Thug. Now he seems to
think that his girl shouldn't need no therapists. She need
to talk to him. That's because you know what you do.
He loved to run and gun. He loved. He wouldn't
be the one talked to me because you don't never
shut up exactly, not even on a recorded line. You
(10:23):
don't know how to shut your mouth. Okay, why what
the teacher's be saying, Clap once if you can hear me.
Clap once if you can hear me, because you're just
gap and gap and gap. Yeah. Lord, trying to take
the therapist's job is crazy because you don't know how
to be quiet. But that's manipulation. I think he just
wants her to be depending on him absolutely, and he
want to know everything you think and how you think.
(10:44):
He wants to be able to get in your mind
so that you he'll know how to move around you
and what you're tolerated and won't tolerate. Baby, don't fall
in that trick bag. Get about of there. If you
got to claw your way about that bag, Okay, you
got the claw your way out of that bag, get
out of there. So let's listen to what he had
to say.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You ever consider therapy though, like really sitting down with
somebody and not to say it doesn't make you less
of who you are because you're gonna be that at
the end of the day. But just to hear from
a different perspective.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I ain't never really considered it. I always felt like
I had ogez like I always.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Tell you the same that you already know.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I feel like a therapist is gonna do the same thing.
I feel like possible. I feel like we know better.
We just got to do better. You know what you
don't supposed to do, Like you don't need me now
one of them. Are no therapists to tell you, like
if you tell your therapy man, I'm going back and
forth with my wife. Bro, I'm just trying to figure
what they're gonna say. Let him, let her be heard,
(11:42):
shut up. Sometimes listen more than you talk. They gonna
say the same. It's just like, man, that's another bill.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Man like you, you'll understand it more.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
But I feel like me personally, I feel like it's
a weakness in that because I feel like I'm gonna
listen to my girl, like I just listen to my girl,
or I listen to little sister, my my big sister,
my big brother, my dad, my mom my. Oh jeez,
I listen to y'all.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Like it's really a slapping face to me.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
If I you know what I'm saying I was telling
my girl that like, I don't think you need a therapist.
I don't think I need a therapist. I feel I
feel like I would. I feel like I'm not a
man if my girl get a therapist. It's like, damn,
you actually will call somebody and listen to what they
got to say over me instead of just listening to
what I'm what I'm telling you, I just feel less
(12:30):
of a man.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, and and and if you're living with the narcissist, hello,
whooped it? Okay? Always thank you, absolutely, And it's always
somebody who remind you of a chpole bag or some
way in Harlem. Okay, if you will at the underside
of the dam you heard me in home room, okay.
(12:52):
And it's like, why do you feel as though somebody
talking to if I didn't have you to call up?
Because girl be on the I mean right there own it,
shaking and rattling, just hanging out, my god, if I
couldn't call you. It's not that they're not telling me stuff.
It always sounds different when you hear from other people,
(13:14):
because sometimes people you talk to or understand you can
say things in a way that you understand it. They
can communicate a little bit better, especially when you're heighten,
your emotions are height and you're in a different place
like sometimes your friends or even a therapist can come
from a neutral place, can come from a neutral place
and be able to articulate things to you and tell
(13:36):
you tools. Because I heard no tools. There, no tools,
no assignments, no things to help you work on this
thing continuously. It's just oh, let them be them, let
them do them, let them controlling. Don't be controlled by
somebody like that. Like it's just not a looker like
I would like to be controlled by somebody at least
I could look at you by I don't want to
(13:56):
be controlled all lord. It's the the thing that the
thing that he's missing is that therapists are licensed professional
hello that have studied not only the way men and
women think in relation to themselves, but others, family, friends,
business partnerships. These people have studied for years, probably a decade,
(14:20):
and then they have practiced for even more to learn
how to give you the proper guidance and how to
regulate your emotions. Speak clearly so the person that's receiving
the information isn't triggered by it. Isn't feel offended by
what you're trying to say. What he's talking about, Man,
I had O g's and that's the problem. And they
(14:40):
didn't tell you to stay out of jail because they
not in it. They didn't tell you how to do that.
So he didn't care. He was he was going to jail,
recuad they do a prison for the rest of our life.
Whooped to do? That's crazy. And the fact that you
were letting these people guide your life and now you're
trying to I'm assuming lead your woman down the same
(15:02):
path as you because I always look at the messenger
when people tell me things, right, And we just said
not too long ago that we won't be taking our
own advice. But just listen real quick, Okay, do as
we say, not as we do. That's all I'm saying.
Because I'm gonna tell you the truth. If somebody doesn't
have a good relationship with their mother, I'm not gonna
call them for mother advice, like, oh, I'm going through
(15:24):
my mom, because you know what they're gonna do. They're
gonna go on mother and say, oh, well, you don't
need that. They're gonna make it worse, thank you. They're
gonna make it worse. It's just like, really pay attention
to people who are giving you advice and how they
kind of manage serious things, stupid stuff. He and Jeline
know when we being dumb, it's a choice. I understand
that's absolutely you know what I'm saying. A thousand I'm
choosing to be dumb in this moment. Let me do it,
(15:46):
and I need you to let me talk about it.
Thank you, let me do Let me be stupid for
a sagment, talk about to have stupid moments. I'm smart
all the time. Every day break my friend is exhausted.
I would like to be dumb, like you know what
I'm saying. But people who are actually dumb is where
we have the issues, and they're dumb all the time exactly. Okay,
(16:07):
they're never using their noodle if you will, and so
we don't want advice from people like that. And that's
all I'm saying is like I can't take advice from
somebody who I'm literally watching throw their entire life down
the drain. And then you're getting on podcasts woof the dude,
You're giving narcissistic advice, You're controlling your woman, you're cheating
on her, like you are talking about everybody on a
(16:29):
recorded line in the jail, because who don't know the
calls are recorded? Wof dee. Do you know what I'm saying?
Like we know this information. So I'm watching somebody who
just ain't he's not all there. You had me, but
it's because he has not had he has not had
the proper guidance. And as much as I respect our elders,
they have been operating from a place of tradition and all.
This is just what we do. And my mama did
(16:50):
this and my daddy didn't. And I'm oh my god,
I have been in a daily of a pickle lately
with family and people's super close to me not understanding
that things change, people grow up. Yes, this don't work
no more, girl, that part, This don't work more. Okay,
we got to do something different because life is different.
(17:11):
Our circumstances are different, our finances are different, our education
is different. Yes, things that we have access to are
very different. And so once stop asking women when they're
gonna have a baby, get over your exactly that irks me.
So that we got the stuff to do and wait
morning you had to do back there, right, we really
got stuff to do. I just think that's so rude
to see a woman of age or dating, single, trying
(17:33):
to find her way, living her life, traveling, making money,
and the only thing that matters is why you don't
have a man and a baby. Why all of these
accolades and things that I've accomplished on my own don't
mean nothing. I mean nothing, because the only thing you
ever want to ask me when you see me is
when you're going to have a baby. Oh, I was
(17:55):
gonna say some other but go to hell her, thank you?
And then what? And then I was gonna say when
you're gonna stop having them? Because the main people, because
like the people that here's the thing. When you're gonna
get married, When you're gonna get married, your husband don't
even like you. Okay, when you're gonna have a baby.
When you're gonna have a baby, your son's not yours. Okay,
you've been raising someone else's shop for the last thirty years, okay,
(18:17):
and everybody know it because he looked just like your cousin.
So when you're when you think you might want to
ask me when I'm gonna get married or have a baby,
I want you to swallow your tongue. Yeah, and I
mean throw it back, hello, throw it back like a
shot lemon drap and then go to hell again. You
have me because you're gonna keep on reach down in
(18:39):
that per pop it to pay your way and your
homeboy's way and sometimes your cousins way. They don't never
have to pay. I'm not doing that. I don't mean don't.
That's another thing. People who want to know when you're
gonna do this and when you're gonna do that. Baby,
y'all ain't paying frone of this, thank you. You're not
(19:00):
going to fund any of this. So even in those
situations like you really have to be able to advocate
for yourself. And I think it's so important to just
be able to speak of That's why every chance I get,
I tell people specifically women, don't you let nobody bully
you into nothing. No, no, let nobody take away your
decision making power. And speaking of standing up for yourself.
W NBA players have a little sum they want to
(19:22):
say okay, and they know their words. So not too
long ago, Nofisa Collier made some remarks about the Commissioner
of the WNBA and her leadership or the lack thereof.
She basically said that the WNBA has the best players
in the world, but the worst leadership, and right now
the WNBA is going through a new phase with viewership
growing drastically because of players like her, Asiel Wilson, Angel
(19:44):
reason of course, Kaitlyn Clark. So they wore shirts during
the All Star Game that said pay us what you
owe us. And after those comments, even Kaitlyn Clark still
behind everything car you had to say, which should be
noted that Caller is the vice president of the WNBA
Players Association. Now, none of us are really big sports fans,
but I'm a fan of women and I'm a fan
of knowing your word. Hello. So, first of all, shout
(20:07):
out to y'all for standing up. Shout out to y'all
because I know that's not easy. You can get back last,
you can get black balled people hello fire whatever they
was paying you, you know what I mean. So, I
know that was tough to even come forth and do
I mean so you can you think of a time,
because I think it's so important for us to share
these types of stories. Can you remember a time where
you just had to speak up for yourself? Yeah? Absolutely, girl,
(20:31):
When I worked at nine to five. I was stay
speaking of y'all, gotta be working you on? Hell no,
And then they try to offer me a director. They
try to offer me a director position, and they already
want to listen to you, girl, How'm I going to
the rat y'all? Hell No, I did not care. Every
time I moved up, I was looking to see how
much should I be making here and seeing how much, girl,
(20:53):
it was way below like what I should be. Oh No,
I always was writing letters, girl, to whoever I need
to write a because I just couldn't imagine me doing
When you work for a nonprofit. I don't know if
any of y'all have ever worked for a nonprofit. You
are always gonna be paid less because it's a nonprofit
at the end of the day. But also you're also
going to overextend yourself tremendously because like your job is
(21:15):
to serve, you know, which I love to do. But god, ah, friend,
I stay used to write and girl, I would put
everything that I did because I was a supervisor for
a whiles. I would put every single little teeny thing
that I did. I didn't care what it was because
nobody else was doing that. So yeah, I'm gonna talk
about it. Because people try to make you feel like, oh,
(21:37):
you don't need to say nothing, or you don't need
to talk about everything you're doing. Why not if nobody
else is doing this, why don't I need to talk
about it to spare the others. I'm not sparing nobody
when they come to my money, I don't care who
it is. Everybody's on the chopping blocks, so like, I
just want you to know they're like, I'm oh, for sure.
And then even I'm gonna switch giars for a hot second,
(21:58):
going into being an entrepreneur, i' gonna bring it up again.
It's like you don't know how much you should be
charging for stuff, But then once you get wind of
like what you should be because you Jerlin beening this forever.
I've only been doing it ever, I mean you've been
noticed whatever. I'm not right, you know, I haven't been
doing it as long as you. And so when you
talk about numbers and stuff, we have already agreed that
she will take care of whatever. So if y'all want
(22:21):
moving forward, if y'all want to book us, ask Jerline
how much, because I'm I'll be telling a million dollars.
I want to say, I'm still struggling in that area,
but this one obviously knows how much we're worth. So
because I'm still struggling trying to figure out, like as
an entrepreneur with my following, but you know, all of
(22:42):
this is just new to me. You don't have a
guideline on how much you can ask Chatty Patty with
your chat GBC or you can put it into Google.
But those numbers feel off to me too. So it's
like you almost just gotta know somebody who knows somebody
who and to it depends on what what it takes
to produce what they're asking you for. But like you
tell you know what I mean, you because you gotta
breakdown girls she talking about she was talking about makeup trying.
(23:04):
I mean, she'd be breaking it down. Thought about that
if somebody wants to book you somewhere and I gotta
get a hotel, and I got to catch a flight,
and I gotta pay for my transportation when I get there,
and I gotta do my hair in my makeup, and
I gotta buy new clothes, and I need to eat
while I'm there, Like all of that needs to be
figured in because you called me. Yeah, you called me.
I didn't say, hey, y'all need me to do something.
That's not what happened. You said you wanted me, and
(23:24):
this is what it's gonna take for me to get there.
So whatever those numbers are, put those numbers together in
a little small package and then add two million dollars
some gratuity to two little gratuity million minimum. You got
to reparations. You got to get it out. We go
to get it in. You got you gotta get off
of No seriously, So I think now, back then in corporate,
(23:48):
I just go toe the toe with you because I'm
like I'm doing y'all not gonna find I'm tight like
no shade, but like I really was. But in this space,
I think I'm like trying to figure it out more
now than ever. I mean, like I said, it's a
learning experience. You figure out as you go. And I
think it's hard with something like the w NBA, it's
hard to quantify because you want to say that women
(24:11):
deserve equal pain, but the numbers just aren't there. People
are not watching women's sports as much as they should
be unless there is Caitlin Clark or an Asia well,
you know, and there's nothing wrong with that, but like
the money has to come from somewhere. Y'all have the
money for something, you know what I'm saying. And so
a lot of them girls is getting brand deals and
(24:31):
they doing other things. I mean, that's kind of how
Angel Reese is, Like I feel like she'd be doing
She has the Snoop Dogg of the Angel Ratime that
music video, sirial, like, girl, what are you doing? Everything?
She's doing everything, and I think she just realized, like
get your money, yello. And people love to see her.
(24:53):
She got body so like she's tall, she's like, you know,
she demands attention when she walks in the room. And
I think she just found her energy and just her wave,
and so she's right in that wave. She was like,
bet y'all want me, Okay, I'm gonna do this that
and the third and I believe that she is getting
that brand like I know she getting money. So yeah,
she just found another way. And I think sometimes too,
(25:14):
like if you're not gonna be paid what you deserve,
you gotta figure out how to pivot too, you know
what I mean. Don't be scared to pivot, don't get
in these spaces and be like, I'm still gonna stay.
You gotta figure out other avenues and figure out, well,
what else could I possibly do to make sure that
I hit that mark that I'm trying to hit. I
want to make that money regardless. But I love basketball,
I love whatever this goes for anybody, don't be afraid
(25:37):
to do more than one thing. I think sometimes people
get stuck in like this is all I can do,
this is what I'm good at. When you don't realize
that there's a lot of things you can do and
you already have a d this is the WNBA, you
have a following. People want to see other extra community.
What else y'all want to see me do? What else? Y'all?
Maybe they just want to see what kind of sneakers
you got. Maybe they want to know, you know what
I mean, Like when you get your head done, like
(25:58):
you don't know what people are interested in until you ask,
and you don't realize that there is a lane to
make money in all of it. Absolutely nothing is off
the table. Absolutely, that's one of them. So we were
just talking about Kevin Stage has a new book called
Successful Failure, and I think this book is so important.
This is the last segment we're about to get into.
Its actually called girl talk. And I'm glad that this
(26:18):
is a perfect segue because what I want to talk
about is the pivot. The pivot of this is not working.
Let me find something else, or uh, this isn't enough,
let me get some more. Yes, because I'm in the
I'm right smack in the middle of that transitional space
right now, and I know people are probably looking at
my social media like what the fuck is she doing?
But just whole type right, it's coming. But you know,
(26:43):
you have to find another way to get You got
to make up the difference, as we all know. And
so what are some things that you have done to
maybe because are you pivoting as well, or because I
see you doing all times about the same girl.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
This me.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Going on circle. I am to pivot, Queen Droll enough,
I won't pivot in a second. Okay, let's do this.
Let's do that. I knew a lot of stuff, y'all.
So just like wear reviews, food reviews, comedy, just like podcasts, everything,
And then you know, you look at like your out
room and stuff and say, hey, if I'm making this
witches right now on YouTube, But I pivot if you
(27:21):
go back. I've pivoted so much on my YouTube channel.
I started off thinking I needed to do beauty, you
know what I'm saying. So I'm like, oh, I need
to tell them about hair, right, And I was doing
like some hair stuff, but I wasn't with no companies.
I just was doing it. Then I was like, okay,
maybe I need to do makeup. So girl, I started
doing makeup, and I was like, okay, maybe they want
to hear advice. So I started doing advice. Like I
just kept doing different things until the food's stuck. Now
(27:44):
we're at food. People love my food reviews, but I'm
realizing that YouTube is with a bag is at So
instead of giving people like three minutes five minutes of
a food review, hey, why do we do more of
a blog style and take you guys on this journey
look all through the restaurant, All through the restaurant, me
at home getting prepared to go, were driving to the spot.
I'm realizing that I can expand. If y'all like my
(28:06):
short form videos, then we could take this out the
twenty minutes and I can make a bag from this
twenty minute of holding you here. So right, now I'm
pivoting into more of a blog style of food reviews
while still giving you the shorts, because we're not gonna
take nothing of it. I'm sure some shorts is okay shorts.
We're not gonna take nothing on it off the table.
We're just gonna add to add to it, you know
what I'm saying. And so I think I'm in a
(28:27):
pivot with that right now, but I know my friend
is in a pivot as well. I'll just be doing
stuff the way I've pivoted because I wanted I love
doing music and everybody knows I'm a singer songwriter. That's
my thing. That's what I do, but it's not as
profitable when people keep, you know, trying to do the
copyright stress. So I was like, well, people always be
want to know my business anyway, So I'm gonna just
tell it the way I want to tell it. And
(28:49):
so I've been doing story times, but I also have
been on all these random side quests, like I've been rollerblading,
i played tennis, I did pick a ball, I'm doing
botanical guardens and all these other things, like just so
you can see because people are like, I want to
hang out with you for a day, say last, Now,
that's that's not gonna harry LUs. But I'll say LUs
(29:09):
bringing them on the blow. It's hanging out with you.
Thank you you. That ain't going right there and there
ain't go I heard that you was looking for me
here I go, hey, hey, I go hey, that's all
you're gonna get. I can't. I can't take you with me.
But that that I think that'll do it.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So I'm excited about it though, and I love the
comments and everything, and I'm in the I'm building my
YouTube following. I got twenty six I don't know, twenty
half a quarter, a quarter of something like that, and
so I'm trying to build it up. And so it's
so it seems like it's so difficult to get people,
like how do you have over a million followers on
TikTok at seven hundred thousand on Facebook and another half
(29:47):
a meal somewhere else and you can't make people go
look at the long form content Like that's that's a
challenge for me. So I'm pivoting even my marketing, yeah,
because I'm learning how to tell people, hey, go do this,
and once I became intentional about it, because I was
never intentional about you too. But now that I'm intentional
about it, I see the influx of followers, and I
see the content growing in ways that I never thought
(30:09):
that it could. So I'm excited about the pop. I'm
excited for it. And this in itself is a pivot
us doing this podcast. I feel you mentioned because we
were not ones for podcasts. I personally hate them. I
did hate them before I started, and I never saw
myself like, but I have been offered to do, you know,
interviews and like the Morning Hustle. I had did that before,
and so I kind of knew radio might be and
(30:31):
or just like talking would be in my field, but
it never was something that was like, oh, I for
sure want to do a podcast like never, So this
is you right, also a pivot so another people for us. Also,
I want to go back to something which is I'm
proud of you because it is hard to pivot from
short form content to long form content, but I promise
you it's worth it. YouTube already they already rocking with you, Okay,
(30:55):
they already love being in your business. But you want
to attract people who can have an attentions. Man, you
know what I'm saying so that when you do come
out with different things like you will find your following
and like people will want to know more about you
and not just a quick laugh, because that's not a girl.
She's so much more to that. Even though she'd be
happy cracking up all the time, but I'm I do
(31:16):
a p No, she's gonna have be cracking up all
day long. But it's good to have community and people
whoill be like I actually like her as a person
outside of being a singer, outside of being a comedian
and outside of you know what I mean. Like it
it's comforting you too. For me is comforting for me,
and it's just like I'm just happy that you win
this time. I'm trying to be comforted too, because I
hurt the money is I want to be comfortable. Big
(31:38):
bank takes a little bank. Okay, So for those look,
we are both growing platforms everywhere. Make sure y'all follow
us everywhere all the time on everything, because this is
not it's not just a little one off situation like
this is a movement. We we we feel like we
were divinely put together and there's a lot more happening
(32:01):
here than you just see us talking shit every week,
So please tune in and follow the journey because it's
it's a journey. It's a wild right, It's a journey.
It's not about one. It is such a fun journey.
I don't think I would have been able to do
this with nobody, but you like, now that I see
how close we are and all the ways that we
are mutually beneficial for each other, I don't know if
(32:22):
I could have found that somewhere else. No, So I
tell you, well, I mean, that's it's been real, y'all. Although, well,
come to the girl they told that song. I mean, well,
don't it do someday? Flo, she said, y'all, we're gonna
(32:43):
go ahead and close out. Just remember we're here on
YouTube every Thursday, or you can listen to us wherever
you listen to your podcast. Just make sure you like
comment and subscribe and hit that notification bill so you'll
know every time we uploads. We're gonna see y'all in
the next one.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
B
What's up, everybody. It's your girl Indescribable aka Jerling Lake
checking in with none other than my bestie for the
rest of you, Lenae Monette, and you are listening to this,
she said the first podcast and eurber one podcast on
the eurby one podcast network. Here. Yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am,
we is the best. Yes, I love our in person empisode.
(00:23):
I love him so much, And I just want to
take a second to say what irritated me this week?
Because y'all thought I was gonna say something nice and
I'm not. Let me tell you about what it's rood
of me to not let you ask what irritated you heard?
Got some So glad you asked, yes, girl, why Total
been trying me? Total my terrible to My dog has
(00:47):
been trying me, y'all, and he thinks he's slick. So
what he does is when I tell him to go
to his place, I said, go home. Go home means
go to your cage. What this negro been doing? I'll say, Total,
go home. He'll walk halfway there and turn around and
look back. I said, so you go home, and then
he'll try to go. Now I meant what I said,
(01:09):
go ahead and go. He tested your friend to see, like,
let me see if she's gonna do an exactly look
back now now, when I gave your chest in Wait
a minute, hold on, wait a just kidding you better bed,
I'm going to go on the girl the way that dog,
Oh my god, you can't. When you when you see
him and spend time with him, you will understand that
(01:29):
dog has never been abused by me, at least the
way he be jumping up in my face and like
if you flinched at him, he wouldn't even do it.
You don't even know what that means. He don't know
what I mean. You know, Yes, tod On sleeps in
my bed because that's my son, and he's spoiled. He
get full baths, and I take him to the vent
and I buy him snacks and I got him some
little outfits and stuff because that's my son. That's all
(01:51):
I was. I was taking her back. I was so
taken aback when he was disobedient and rebellious. I didn't
know what to do. I wanted to call my mama
and asks for advice. You never raised the dog. I'm Aryan,
and the only experience I had with dogs, they snack up,
periad There lots of experience that you should know exactly
what to do. Welcome, I know how to walk a
(02:15):
doll okay, but like that, Okay, so what this week?
Girl friends see me? Don't you hate when you go
to therapy by the way, please go talk Please go
talk to that lady. Don't you hate when you go
to therapy and you venting you saying anything because you
know that this was done to you, you have been
done wrong, and you find out that you're the problem.
(02:39):
Given car it's really giving cardiover. I'm the drama for real,
Like I just didn't know that. You know what I'm saying.
I'm expressive, you know you know how I get it.
I'm really telling you because I want you to. I
want you to have all the details. You can see
what they've went wrong and how wrong they've done me. Yeah,
that woman looked at me and said, I think you
(03:01):
might need a psychiatry a minute psychiadress, Yes, they said,
I think somebody the prescripul us something. Yeah, a little
tag on the side stashing on night dans get you together.
So I was kind of taken back by that information
to say, hope, hopefully you at least felt like a
(03:26):
release when you was able to share it. So upset
with her, I got mad at her. Ball your face
because because why I'm up saying this sport therapist, I
love going to mind, he's the problem. You gotta keep
going on. Friends think I'm fire. No, you can't do that.
I think that was the last self. I'm just calling
you from here because let me tell you, that's my friend.
(03:48):
She always gonna stick me aside. I'm like, that's what
it's about, work, make the dream work. I like that.
I can't be nobody's therapist because I know my advice
be wrong. I just please don't do as I say,
not as I do. That's what I've been trying to
tell you. Can I'm gonna tell you right now. My
actra is not gonna mess my words. Now. I might
be telling you because I girl, we could talk for
(04:09):
I know, right, But I be having situations where I'd
be like, well, this is what you need to do, friend,
and it's so easy, and I be in the same
situation trying to figure out what to do.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Girl.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
So I don't understand why we can so clearly see
what everybody else is doing. Wrong and not what we're
doing with It's literally like them people in the comments.
See we relate to y'all in them comments. Y'all knew
all of this when the home dirty. You ain't taking
care of none of them kids. You ain't working three days.
You said you down and out, and you got the
nerve to be talking about me online. So we get
it and have not washed that. Okay, that's that'd be
(04:39):
the main one looking a profile. Tail of ass, wake up,
but po is not in the cup, y'all problem, Just
be on that ad. I ain't ready on that. They
have the bark stays And why do you have bark stays?
Did you dreag your ass up a tree? Oh my god,
(05:08):
I have to stop acting like this. Okay, Oh my gosh, girl,
have you ever so something happened? Have you ever just
looked at somebody differently after they maybe shaved their beard
or took their glasses office something like that? The beard? God,
don't don't date people with beers. I was talking to
this dude. I thought he was fine with a Oh honey,
(05:31):
he showed me a picture. You need to ask that
on the first date. Let me see you without the
bit he looked like somebody who like hands some squidward
walk in stat the picture of handsome is that man.
I'm sorry to that man. I would that man me today?
She just as sorry to that man. I just girl.
(05:52):
He was ugly too. That's another thing he changed from
fine to life was ugly after the beer. Yes, if
he did an old friend, don't date me and would
be if on the first day asked them to show
you a picture, because that's what you're going against when
you have a baby like you got. It's fifty fifty changs.
They might look like you, but there's a fifty fifty
chance that they could might look like that beerless man.
(06:12):
You hear me, okay, and you just don't want to
It's risky, you know, that's risky behavior. You want to
make sure that you see all okay, make sure you
choose d all of the above. We just want to
make sure you got options. I definitely understand that, and
I'm asking that because well, something happened, girl, what happened?
(06:36):
But Kyson I hit a million streams? Okay? And yes,
Lebron James came to cut off his hair to celebrate
him getting to a million streamers. Why was that the choice,
because it's nothing else we could have done. I think
ain't popping bottles. He just wanted something to keep the
people subscribed. I'm sure if you start looking different, I'm subscribing.
(07:00):
What happened? Oh God, you don't look back. Oh I
haven't seen him. I appreciate. Here put a picture so
we see. I love hairless cost but I'm a fan
of low cut Caesus with the deep way. I love
a good low cut me personally, Okay, I'm not really
a hair person. So when I saw him, I was like,
I was like, oh, this must investigated young man. I
(07:22):
mean he's also like twelve, so you know, hold on, friend,
hold on, go ahead, looking up, look at I must
know haircut. Hold on, hold on, cut, haircut, haircut. Here
we go, let's see what we're talking about. Okay, he
has some right, he is handsome. He looks even younger.
(07:45):
I don't want to get out of here immediately before
I get arrested. Okay I can't. I can't have that
on my phone. But he's a handsome young man. And
so I'm like, well, now I'm wondering what what should
we do when we hit a million subscribers? Because you're
not gonna take you right now. I'm not shaved, man,
I'm not taking my wig off. I've done that already.
You've seen the Whig reviews already. I don't need to
keep doing that. Now, what I might do, I might do. Look,
(08:09):
let me see what can we do to really commemorate, Like,
what's a milestone celebration that we really like? It's gotta
be something god diving. Okay, okay, friend, we had a
million Oh okay, what I'm gonna do with my wig?
Now that wig is gonna be Now, you got to know,
got the secure the wig. I'm gonna get some brades.
I can't mess around with that to do that, okay,
(08:30):
because what we won't do is be looking for that
thing over Shannon Dog Valley because where in the world
is Carmen wig Diego? Where is the wig? Guys? Yeah,
we're gonna go sky diving. That we're gonna do. That's crazy.
You heard it here. First, we will now which platform? Instagram? Facebook?
(08:50):
Too many platforms? Friends, let's do when we when? Okay,
whichever one you're closest to. Okay, I'm I'm like seven
hundred something on No, I'm not ready it's no on TikTok.
I'm at like nine you gotta you gotta get ready.
We gotta do Vega. We got that for Thanksgiving, y'all.
(09:15):
Oh jeez, I'm already a nine thousand scams. You might
as well. Okay, friend, I feel I see we're gonna
thank my god, Oh my god. Y'all. Right now let me,
I gotta put my wig with my mouth. Let me.
I'm gonna go take right now. Please gonna subscribe right now,
(09:40):
and I mean immediately. How I'm a thrown seeker. Though
we got to do this. I think it'd be fun.
I think it'd be funky. So okay, speaking of well,
I'm just it's gonna be a terrible sick. But it's
it's not gonna be fun, guys, I'm sorry. Let me
just switch gears for a second. But we talked a
little bit about therapy, and I think that now it's
(10:01):
a good time to talk about this recent clip that's
been floating around of young Thug. Now he seems to
think that his girl shouldn't need no therapists. She need
to talk to him. That's because you know what you do.
He loved to run and gun. He loved. He wouldn't
be the one talked to me because you don't never
shut up exactly, not even on a recorded line. You
(10:23):
don't know how to shut your mouth. Okay, why what
the teacher's be saying, Clap once if you can hear me.
Clap once if you can hear me, because you're just
gap and gap and gap. Yeah. Lord, trying to take
the therapist's job is crazy because you don't know how
to be quiet. But that's manipulation. I think he just
wants her to be depending on him absolutely, and he
want to know everything you think and how you think.
(10:44):
He wants to be able to get in your mind
so that you he'll know how to move around you
and what you're tolerated and won't tolerate. Baby, don't fall
in that trick bag. Get about of there. If you
got to claw your way about that bag, Okay, you
got the claw your way out of that bag, get
out of there. So let's listen to what he had
to say.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You ever consider therapy though, like really sitting down with
somebody and not to say it doesn't make you less
of who you are because you're gonna be that at
the end of the day. But just to hear from
a different perspective.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I ain't never really considered it. I always felt like
I had ogez like I always.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Tell you the same that you already know.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I feel like a therapist is gonna do the same thing.
I feel like possible. I feel like we know better.
We just got to do better. You know what you
don't supposed to do, Like you don't need me now
one of them. Are no therapists to tell you, like
if you tell your therapy man, I'm going back and
forth with my wife. Bro, I'm just trying to figure
what they're gonna say. Let him, let her be heard,
(11:42):
shut up. Sometimes listen more than you talk. They gonna
say the same. It's just like, man, that's another bill.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Man like you, you'll understand it more.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
But I feel like me personally, I feel like it's
a weakness in that because I feel like I'm gonna
listen to my girl, like I just listen to my girl,
or I listen to little sister, my my big sister,
my big brother, my dad, my mom my. Oh jeez,
I listen to y'all.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Like it's really a slapping face to me.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
If I you know what I'm saying I was telling
my girl that like, I don't think you need a therapist.
I don't think I need a therapist. I feel I
feel like I would. I feel like I'm not a
man if my girl get a therapist. It's like, damn,
you actually will call somebody and listen to what they
got to say over me instead of just listening to
what I'm what I'm telling you, I just feel less
(12:30):
of a man.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, and and and if you're living with the narcissist, hello,
whooped it? Okay? Always thank you, absolutely, And it's always
somebody who remind you of a chpole bag or some
way in Harlem. Okay, if you will at the underside
of the dam you heard me in home room, okay.
(12:52):
And it's like, why do you feel as though somebody
talking to if I didn't have you to call up?
Because girl be on the I mean right there own it,
shaking and rattling, just hanging out, my god, if I
couldn't call you. It's not that they're not telling me stuff.
It always sounds different when you hear from other people,
(13:14):
because sometimes people you talk to or understand you can
say things in a way that you understand it. They
can communicate a little bit better, especially when you're heighten,
your emotions are height and you're in a different place
like sometimes your friends or even a therapist can come
from a neutral place, can come from a neutral place
and be able to articulate things to you and tell
(13:36):
you tools. Because I heard no tools. There, no tools,
no assignments, no things to help you work on this
thing continuously. It's just oh, let them be them, let
them do them, let them controlling. Don't be controlled by
somebody like that. Like it's just not a looker like
I would like to be controlled by somebody at least
I could look at you by I don't want to
(13:56):
be controlled all lord. It's the the thing that the
thing that he's missing is that therapists are licensed professional
hello that have studied not only the way men and
women think in relation to themselves, but others, family, friends,
business partnerships. These people have studied for years, probably a decade,
(14:20):
and then they have practiced for even more to learn
how to give you the proper guidance and how to
regulate your emotions. Speak clearly so the person that's receiving
the information isn't triggered by it. Isn't feel offended by
what you're trying to say. What he's talking about, Man,
I had O g's and that's the problem. And they
(14:40):
didn't tell you to stay out of jail because they
not in it. They didn't tell you how to do that.
So he didn't care. He was he was going to jail,
recuad they do a prison for the rest of our life.
Whooped to do? That's crazy. And the fact that you
were letting these people guide your life and now you're
trying to I'm assuming lead your woman down the same
(15:02):
path as you because I always look at the messenger
when people tell me things, right, And we just said
not too long ago that we won't be taking our
own advice. But just listen real quick, Okay, do as
we say, not as we do. That's all I'm saying.
Because I'm gonna tell you the truth. If somebody doesn't
have a good relationship with their mother, I'm not gonna
call them for mother advice, like, oh, I'm going through
(15:24):
my mom, because you know what they're gonna do. They're
gonna go on mother and say, oh, well, you don't
need that. They're gonna make it worse, thank you. They're
gonna make it worse. It's just like, really pay attention
to people who are giving you advice and how they
kind of manage serious things, stupid stuff. He and Jeline
know when we being dumb, it's a choice. I understand
that's absolutely you know what I'm saying. A thousand I'm
choosing to be dumb in this moment. Let me do it,
(15:46):
and I need you to let me talk about it.
Thank you, let me do Let me be stupid for
a sagment, talk about to have stupid moments. I'm smart
all the time. Every day break my friend is exhausted.
I would like to be dumb, like you know what
I'm saying. But people who are actually dumb is where
we have the issues, and they're dumb all the time exactly. Okay,
(16:07):
they're never using their noodle if you will, and so
we don't want advice from people like that. And that's
all I'm saying is like I can't take advice from
somebody who I'm literally watching throw their entire life down
the drain. And then you're getting on podcasts woof the dude,
You're giving narcissistic advice, You're controlling your woman, you're cheating
on her, like you are talking about everybody on a
(16:29):
recorded line in the jail, because who don't know the
calls are recorded? Wof dee. Do you know what I'm saying?
Like we know this information. So I'm watching somebody who
just ain't he's not all there. You had me, but
it's because he has not had he has not had
the proper guidance. And as much as I respect our elders,
they have been operating from a place of tradition and all.
This is just what we do. And my mama did
(16:50):
this and my daddy didn't. And I'm oh my god,
I have been in a daily of a pickle lately
with family and people's super close to me not understanding
that things change, people grow up. Yes, this don't work
no more, girl, that part, This don't work more. Okay,
we got to do something different because life is different.
(17:11):
Our circumstances are different, our finances are different, our education
is different. Yes, things that we have access to are
very different. And so once stop asking women when they're
gonna have a baby, get over your exactly that irks me.
So that we got the stuff to do and wait
morning you had to do back there, right, we really
got stuff to do. I just think that's so rude
to see a woman of age or dating, single, trying
(17:33):
to find her way, living her life, traveling, making money,
and the only thing that matters is why you don't
have a man and a baby. Why all of these
accolades and things that I've accomplished on my own don't
mean nothing. I mean nothing, because the only thing you
ever want to ask me when you see me is
when you're going to have a baby. Oh, I was
(17:55):
gonna say some other but go to hell her, thank you?
And then what? And then I was gonna say when
you're gonna stop having them? Because the main people, because
like the people that here's the thing. When you're gonna
get married, When you're gonna get married, your husband don't
even like you. Okay, when you're gonna have a baby.
When you're gonna have a baby, your son's not yours. Okay,
you've been raising someone else's shop for the last thirty years, okay,
(18:17):
and everybody know it because he looked just like your cousin.
So when you're when you think you might want to
ask me when I'm gonna get married or have a baby,
I want you to swallow your tongue. Yeah, and I
mean throw it back, hello, throw it back like a
shot lemon drap and then go to hell again. You
have me because you're gonna keep on reach down in
(18:39):
that per pop it to pay your way and your
homeboy's way and sometimes your cousins way. They don't never
have to pay. I'm not doing that. I don't mean don't.
That's another thing. People who want to know when you're
gonna do this and when you're gonna do that. Baby,
y'all ain't paying frone of this, thank you. You're not
(19:00):
going to fund any of this. So even in those
situations like you really have to be able to advocate
for yourself. And I think it's so important to just
be able to speak of That's why every chance I get,
I tell people specifically women, don't you let nobody bully
you into nothing. No, no, let nobody take away your
decision making power. And speaking of standing up for yourself.
W NBA players have a little sum they want to
(19:22):
say okay, and they know their words. So not too
long ago, Nofisa Collier made some remarks about the Commissioner
of the WNBA and her leadership or the lack thereof.
She basically said that the WNBA has the best players
in the world, but the worst leadership, and right now
the WNBA is going through a new phase with viewership
growing drastically because of players like her, Asiel Wilson, Angel
(19:44):
reason of course, Kaitlyn Clark. So they wore shirts during
the All Star Game that said pay us what you
owe us. And after those comments, even Kaitlyn Clark still
behind everything car you had to say, which should be
noted that Caller is the vice president of the WNBA
Players Association. Now, none of us are really big sports fans,
but I'm a fan of women and I'm a fan
of knowing your word. Hello. So, first of all, shout
(20:07):
out to y'all for standing up. Shout out to y'all
because I know that's not easy. You can get back last,
you can get black balled people hello fire whatever they
was paying you, you know what I mean. So, I
know that was tough to even come forth and do
I mean so you can you think of a time,
because I think it's so important for us to share
these types of stories. Can you remember a time where
you just had to speak up for yourself? Yeah? Absolutely, girl,
(20:31):
When I worked at nine to five. I was stay
speaking of y'all, gotta be working you on? Hell no,
And then they try to offer me a director. They
try to offer me a director position, and they already
want to listen to you, girl, How'm I going to
the rat y'all? Hell No, I did not care. Every
time I moved up, I was looking to see how
much should I be making here and seeing how much, girl,
(20:53):
it was way below like what I should be. Oh No,
I always was writing letters, girl, to whoever I need
to write a because I just couldn't imagine me doing
When you work for a nonprofit. I don't know if
any of y'all have ever worked for a nonprofit. You
are always gonna be paid less because it's a nonprofit
at the end of the day. But also you're also
going to overextend yourself tremendously because like your job is
(21:15):
to serve, you know, which I love to do. But god, ah, friend,
I stay used to write and girl, I would put
everything that I did because I was a supervisor for
a whiles. I would put every single little teeny thing
that I did. I didn't care what it was because
nobody else was doing that. So yeah, I'm gonna talk
about it. Because people try to make you feel like, oh,
(21:37):
you don't need to say nothing, or you don't need
to talk about everything you're doing. Why not if nobody
else is doing this, why don't I need to talk
about it to spare the others. I'm not sparing nobody
when they come to my money, I don't care who
it is. Everybody's on the chopping blocks, so like, I
just want you to know they're like, I'm oh, for sure.
And then even I'm gonna switch giars for a hot second,
(21:58):
going into being an entrepreneur, i' gonna bring it up again.
It's like you don't know how much you should be
charging for stuff, But then once you get wind of
like what you should be because you Jerlin beening this forever.
I've only been doing it ever, I mean you've been
noticed whatever. I'm not right, you know, I haven't been
doing it as long as you. And so when you
talk about numbers and stuff, we have already agreed that
she will take care of whatever. So if y'all want
(22:21):
moving forward, if y'all want to book us, ask Jerline
how much, because I'm I'll be telling a million dollars.
I want to say, I'm still struggling in that area,
but this one obviously knows how much we're worth. So
because I'm still struggling trying to figure out, like as
an entrepreneur with my following, but you know, all of
(22:42):
this is just new to me. You don't have a
guideline on how much you can ask Chatty Patty with
your chat GBC or you can put it into Google.
But those numbers feel off to me too. So it's
like you almost just gotta know somebody who knows somebody
who and to it depends on what what it takes
to produce what they're asking you for. But like you
tell you know what I mean, you because you gotta
breakdown girls she talking about she was talking about makeup trying.
(23:04):
I mean, she'd be breaking it down. Thought about that
if somebody wants to book you somewhere and I gotta
get a hotel, and I got to catch a flight,
and I gotta pay for my transportation when I get there,
and I gotta do my hair in my makeup, and
I gotta buy new clothes, and I need to eat
while I'm there, Like all of that needs to be
figured in because you called me. Yeah, you called me.
I didn't say, hey, y'all need me to do something.
That's not what happened. You said you wanted me, and
(23:24):
this is what it's gonna take for me to get there.
So whatever those numbers are, put those numbers together in
a little small package and then add two million dollars
some gratuity to two little gratuity million minimum. You got
to reparations. You got to get it out. We go
to get it in. You got you gotta get off
of No seriously, So I think now, back then in corporate,
(23:48):
I just go toe the toe with you because I'm
like I'm doing y'all not gonna find I'm tight like
no shade, but like I really was. But in this space,
I think I'm like trying to figure it out more
now than ever. I mean, like I said, it's a
learning experience. You figure out as you go. And I
think it's hard with something like the w NBA, it's
hard to quantify because you want to say that women
(24:11):
deserve equal pain, but the numbers just aren't there. People
are not watching women's sports as much as they should
be unless there is Caitlin Clark or an Asia well,
you know, and there's nothing wrong with that, but like
the money has to come from somewhere. Y'all have the
money for something, you know what I'm saying. And so
a lot of them girls is getting brand deals and
(24:31):
they doing other things. I mean, that's kind of how
Angel Reese is, Like I feel like she'd be doing
She has the Snoop Dogg of the Angel Ratime that
music video, sirial, like, girl, what are you doing? Everything?
She's doing everything, and I think she just realized, like
get your money, yello. And people love to see her.
(24:53):
She got body so like she's tall, she's like, you know,
she demands attention when she walks in the room. And
I think she just found her energy and just her wave,
and so she's right in that wave. She was like,
bet y'all want me, Okay, I'm gonna do this that
and the third and I believe that she is getting
that brand like I know she getting money. So yeah,
she just found another way. And I think sometimes too,
(25:14):
like if you're not gonna be paid what you deserve,
you gotta figure out how to pivot too, you know
what I mean. Don't be scared to pivot, don't get
in these spaces and be like, I'm still gonna stay.
You gotta figure out other avenues and figure out, well,
what else could I possibly do to make sure that
I hit that mark that I'm trying to hit. I
want to make that money regardless. But I love basketball,
I love whatever this goes for anybody, don't be afraid
(25:37):
to do more than one thing. I think sometimes people
get stuck in like this is all I can do,
this is what I'm good at. When you don't realize
that there's a lot of things you can do and
you already have a d this is the WNBA, you
have a following. People want to see other extra community.
What else y'all want to see me do? What else? Y'all?
Maybe they just want to see what kind of sneakers
you got. Maybe they want to know, you know what
I mean, Like when you get your head done, like
(25:58):
you don't know what people are interested in until you ask,
and you don't realize that there is a lane to
make money in all of it. Absolutely nothing is off
the table. Absolutely, that's one of them. So we were
just talking about Kevin Stage has a new book called
Successful Failure, and I think this book is so important.
This is the last segment we're about to get into.
Its actually called girl talk. And I'm glad that this
(26:18):
is a perfect segue because what I want to talk
about is the pivot. The pivot of this is not working.
Let me find something else, or uh, this isn't enough,
let me get some more. Yes, because I'm in the
I'm right smack in the middle of that transitional space
right now, and I know people are probably looking at
my social media like what the fuck is she doing?
But just whole type right, it's coming. But you know,
(26:43):
you have to find another way to get You got
to make up the difference, as we all know. And
so what are some things that you have done to
maybe because are you pivoting as well, or because I
see you doing all times about the same girl.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
This me.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Going on circle. I am to pivot, Queen Droll enough,
I won't pivot in a second. Okay, let's do this.
Let's do that. I knew a lot of stuff, y'all.
So just like wear reviews, food reviews, comedy, just like podcasts, everything,
And then you know, you look at like your out
room and stuff and say, hey, if I'm making this
witches right now on YouTube, But I pivot if you
(27:21):
go back. I've pivoted so much on my YouTube channel.
I started off thinking I needed to do beauty, you
know what I'm saying. So I'm like, oh, I need
to tell them about hair, right, And I was doing
like some hair stuff, but I wasn't with no companies.
I just was doing it. Then I was like, okay,
maybe I need to do makeup. So girl, I started
doing makeup, and I was like, okay, maybe they want
to hear advice. So I started doing advice. Like I
just kept doing different things until the food's stuck. Now
(27:44):
we're at food. People love my food reviews, but I'm
realizing that YouTube is with a bag is at So
instead of giving people like three minutes five minutes of
a food review, hey, why do we do more of
a blog style and take you guys on this journey
look all through the restaurant, All through the restaurant, me
at home getting prepared to go, were driving to the spot.
I'm realizing that I can expand. If y'all like my
(28:06):
short form videos, then we could take this out the
twenty minutes and I can make a bag from this
twenty minute of holding you here. So right, now I'm
pivoting into more of a blog style of food reviews
while still giving you the shorts, because we're not gonna
take nothing of it. I'm sure some shorts is okay shorts.
We're not gonna take nothing on it off the table.
We're just gonna add to add to it, you know
what I'm saying. And so I think I'm in a
(28:27):
pivot with that right now, but I know my friend
is in a pivot as well. I'll just be doing
stuff the way I've pivoted because I wanted I love
doing music and everybody knows I'm a singer songwriter. That's
my thing. That's what I do, but it's not as
profitable when people keep, you know, trying to do the
copyright stress. So I was like, well, people always be
want to know my business anyway, So I'm gonna just
tell it the way I want to tell it. And
(28:49):
so I've been doing story times, but I also have
been on all these random side quests, like I've been rollerblading,
i played tennis, I did pick a ball, I'm doing
botanical guardens and all these other things, like just so
you can see because people are like, I want to
hang out with you for a day, say last, Now,
that's that's not gonna harry LUs. But I'll say LUs
(29:09):
bringing them on the blow. It's hanging out with you.
Thank you you. That ain't going right there and there
ain't go I heard that you was looking for me
here I go, hey, hey, I go hey, that's all
you're gonna get. I can't. I can't take you with me.
But that that I think that'll do it.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So I'm excited about it though, and I love the
comments and everything, and I'm in the I'm building my
YouTube following. I got twenty six I don't know, twenty
half a quarter, a quarter of something like that, and
so I'm trying to build it up. And so it's
so it seems like it's so difficult to get people,
like how do you have over a million followers on
TikTok at seven hundred thousand on Facebook and another half
(29:47):
a meal somewhere else and you can't make people go
look at the long form content Like that's that's a
challenge for me. So I'm pivoting even my marketing, yeah,
because I'm learning how to tell people, hey, go do this,
and once I became intentional about it, because I was
never intentional about you too. But now that I'm intentional
about it, I see the influx of followers, and I
see the content growing in ways that I never thought
(30:09):
that it could. So I'm excited about the pop. I'm
excited for it. And this in itself is a pivot
us doing this podcast. I feel you mentioned because we
were not ones for podcasts. I personally hate them. I
did hate them before I started, and I never saw
myself like, but I have been offered to do, you know,
interviews and like the Morning Hustle. I had did that before,
and so I kind of knew radio might be and
(30:31):
or just like talking would be in my field, but
it never was something that was like, oh, I for
sure want to do a podcast like never, So this
is you right, also a pivot so another people for us. Also,
I want to go back to something which is I'm
proud of you because it is hard to pivot from
short form content to long form content, but I promise
you it's worth it. YouTube already they already rocking with you, Okay,
(30:55):
they already love being in your business. But you want
to attract people who can have an attentions. Man, you
know what I'm saying so that when you do come
out with different things like you will find your following
and like people will want to know more about you
and not just a quick laugh, because that's not a girl.
She's so much more to that. Even though she'd be
happy cracking up all the time, but I'm I do
(31:16):
a p No, she's gonna have be cracking up all
day long. But it's good to have community and people
whoill be like I actually like her as a person
outside of being a singer, outside of being a comedian
and outside of you know what I mean. Like it
it's comforting you too. For me is comforting for me,
and it's just like I'm just happy that you win
this time. I'm trying to be comforted too, because I
hurt the money is I want to be comfortable. Big
(31:38):
bank takes a little bank. Okay, So for those look,
we are both growing platforms everywhere. Make sure y'all follow
us everywhere all the time on everything, because this is
not it's not just a little one off situation like
this is a movement. We we we feel like we
were divinely put together and there's a lot more happening
(32:01):
here than you just see us talking shit every week,
So please tune in and follow the journey because it's
it's a journey. It's a wild right, It's a journey.
It's not about one. It is such a fun journey.
I don't think I would have been able to do
this with nobody, but you like, now that I see
how close we are and all the ways that we
are mutually beneficial for each other, I don't know if
(32:22):
I could have found that somewhere else. No, So I
tell you, well, I mean, that's it's been real, y'all. Although, well,
come to the girl they told that song. I mean, well,
don't it do someday? Flo, she said, y'all, we're gonna
(32:43):
go ahead and close out. Just remember we're here on
YouTube every Thursday, or you can listen to us wherever
you listen to your podcast. Just make sure you like
comment and subscribe and hit that notification bill so you'll
know every time we uploads. We're gonna see y'all in
the next one.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
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