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October 30, 2025 • 35 mins

Episode 76 of She Said It First is a treat bag full of chaos, cackles, and callbacks — the ultimate Best Of Halloween special. Since Jerrilyn Lake aka Indeskribeabull and Lynee’ Monae are off this week (probably judging costumes and dodging candy corn), they gift listeners a highlight reel of the moments that almost got them canceled — or at least gave their producers heart palpitations. 

The episode revisits classic segments featuring the guests who brought peak foolishness to the mic: comedian and influencer Mr. Bankshot, who had everyone crying laughing with his chaotic storytelling and parody confessions; radio personality and comedian Alton Walker, whose “truths” about relationships were half stand-up, half therapy session; and poet and motivational speaker Kira J, who somehow managed to make vulnerability sound both poetic and petty in the best way. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (00:00):
She said at first fans, No, I am not Jeralin
Lake or Lenae Monette. This is Johi Whitehead, the executive
producer of that. She said it first podcast and today,
the ladies are all for Halloween, but as always, they
did not want to leave the fans with nothing, So
in honor of Halloween, here are some moments that Jerlyn
and Lenee thought this show would be no more with
all of the hilarious but outlandish things that were said.

(00:23):
You will hear interviews from comedian and influencer mister Bankshot
also radio personality and comedian out and Walker, as well
as spoken word artist, poet, writer, and motivational speaker Kira j.
Next week, Jerlin and Lane will be back with a
brand new episode. So we want everybody to stay safe
over a holiday weekend, have fun, but remember be responsible.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
All right, That's enough of me, Let's get to this episode.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Peace.

Speaker 5 (00:49):
What's come everybody?

Speaker 6 (00:50):
It's your girl indescribable akaa Jerlyn Lake and I'm checking
in with my bestie.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
For the rat seat the name one and you are
listening to that.

Speaker 6 (00:57):
She said it first podcast in Urban one podcast on
the Everyone podcast Network.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
Very yet I'm on y'ah. I love a good podcast.

Speaker 6 (01:06):
You now, before we start talking about the things that
are going on in the nation to there's so much
going on, honey, I got to know what irritates you
this week?

Speaker 7 (01:16):
Child?

Speaker 5 (01:17):
You know what I don't like?

Speaker 8 (01:18):
What tell me I don't like.

Speaker 6 (01:19):
When people get up in my DMS and comments and
tell me, oh, I don't like your nails, I don't
like your hair.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
And then you know what I do?

Speaker 6 (01:27):
I send them my cash voice Because the only people
who can ever have an opinion on anything that I
got going on is people who finance it, I think.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
And here I am trying to give you a voice,
and you don't want to take it.

Speaker 6 (01:39):
Okay, Like when you go to build a bed, don't
they make you pay?

Speaker 9 (01:43):
They can build the band. Well, how much you think
I'm gonna charge you the building?

Speaker 5 (01:46):
You can bleep that out.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
You can bleep that part out.

Speaker 9 (01:49):
Actually, how much are you gonna be charged the building?

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Hello?

Speaker 5 (01:55):
Okay, that's what I said.

Speaker 8 (01:57):
You know what, I think that's fair.

Speaker 6 (01:58):
I think that's more than fair, actually, because why are
you giving your opinion about something that doesn't concern you.

Speaker 8 (02:03):
You didn't you didn't contribute.

Speaker 6 (02:06):
At all didn't try. You didn't even try anyway, And this.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
Was never about how I look. Did you listen to
the comedy? Did you watch the food review?

Speaker 9 (02:16):
Like they always getting distracted something?

Speaker 8 (02:19):
Did you learn anything?

Speaker 5 (02:21):
Lord, have mercy?

Speaker 9 (02:22):
It strusts me right on now, I understand what about
you understand?

Speaker 6 (02:26):
Well, I'm a little more serious, but I'm still I
still gotta say this. I can't stand a mean girl,
especially an older one.

Speaker 8 (02:34):
And you know.

Speaker 6 (02:37):
The thing that I hate the most is being insecure,
taking little quiet jabs at people and.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Trying to be funny.

Speaker 9 (02:45):
I don't like that because when you be funny with me,
I started acting.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
Real hilarios hello, And I don't think you want to
laugh when I'm cracking jokes telling all I'm saying. But
you know, I think that it's such a sad experience.
And a lot of girls first mean girl experience is
from their mother or some woman in their family. So
I just think that as a mean girl, I want
to say, go ahead and hang it up.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
Retire, Yeah, retire.

Speaker 9 (03:09):
We've got enough going on. We're in a recession.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
People can't afford food, they don't have health destroys and therapy,
and I just want to say that if you are,
in fact a.

Speaker 8 (03:18):
Mean girl, gone go to hell.

Speaker 6 (03:21):
He gone go to hell, because every time you see me,
every time, I'm gonna look better than you. Girl, gonna
make them sick. Today's going to have you vomiting uncontrollably.
So I just thought that I should throw that out there.
I feel that, friend, I feel that that's what it
was said to me this week, because we could look
very easily build together, have friendship with one another.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (03:44):
I don't know about building, but build an empire together,
not like an actual house or something.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
No, just like if if that's your energy.

Speaker 6 (03:53):
No, I'm saying, if you weren't a mean girl, okay,
got you got you got No, I'm like.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
You, yeah, trips together.

Speaker 6 (04:03):
But if you're a mean girl with thank energy, I
want you to know I see you.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
Yeah, and I don't like.

Speaker 8 (04:13):
And So while you were playing checkers.

Speaker 5 (04:17):
Come on, come on, come on, come on.

Speaker 8 (04:22):
Your girl was playing backgammon.

Speaker 9 (04:24):
Oh you didn't even know my next movie?

Speaker 10 (04:26):
You thought I was going to say change Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
Yeah, because that's how you play Russian.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Okay, but I hope.

Speaker 10 (04:32):
It's not your turn.

Speaker 9 (04:34):
Yeah, because because when it's my turn, I'm gonna turn you.

Speaker 6 (04:37):
But you know what's so funny is I'm glad we're
on the subject because you're very good. No, you're very
good with wordplay. How do you describe your comedic style
because you do a lot of diff work play in
your parodies and stuff in general.

Speaker 11 (04:48):
I think you know best, like it just comes naturally.
I mean you just hear something, and I feel like
we have word banks of just like words that we
know rhyme with certain things and interchange and it's just
it's just the gifts because everybody can't do it, because
I mean, is it.

Speaker 6 (05:09):
Man?

Speaker 4 (05:10):
If I knew all the people that indescribable.

Speaker 7 (05:13):
Sent me boy get out of here, he'd be so
quick to come.

Speaker 11 (05:17):
I know, I know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but no,
it'd be a lot of people who don't understand just
the concept of like just wordplay, parody. Things got a rhyme,
It got to be the same cadence. It can't just
be just you doing a lot of people do that.
You know, it's really three people who do it. The
house would be done. That's me, that's indescribable, and then
that's Robert Williams very much.

Speaker 6 (05:37):
Shout out to Robert Williams, who does music perriers and
never misses. He's really good at job. He gets his
family involved in himself. So yeah, shut down, that's what's up.
That's what's up. What was one of your first videos
that went viral?

Speaker 11 (05:49):
That's a very good question. It was I did a
parody to the Casper slide. It was it was like
the still Your Man slide. It was like a tutorial
about how women other women's man.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Can you recover recall the steps.

Speaker 12 (06:06):
For us.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Man?

Speaker 11 (06:09):
It was this was ten years ago exactly. I can't
I really can't go. I was trying to.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
Take them back now, y'all.

Speaker 11 (06:17):
Yeah, I feel like it was. It was I can't remember.
I swear I can't remember. That was like actually one
of my favorite ones of all time, but it was
so it was so long ago.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
Do you think it's a remedy to go on viral?

Speaker 11 (06:30):
Yes and no, because once you know the formula, I mean,
what's the formula before, and.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
Then you try to like do particular.

Speaker 6 (06:40):
The formula is authenticity. The formula is being relateable, something
that people relate to.

Speaker 11 (06:46):
But funny story, when I did the Castle slide and
it went viral. DJ Casper himself hit me up on
Facebook and said, I need you to take this down
before I see you.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
What.

Speaker 11 (06:58):
Yeah, I mean. I was like, I'm not making no
money off of it's just the viral. He was like,
I mean, I don't want to get my lawyers involved.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
Oh he was serious, it was. And then he passed away.
I said, look at God, take.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
He's really DJ.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Now he is DJ?

Speaker 6 (07:17):
Did you?

Speaker 5 (07:18):
Oh my god, Nils, I'm not going down there.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
That this will be your last appearance, she said the
first God said to the left.

Speaker 7 (07:28):
God took him back to come on, Oh my God,
go to help.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
Oh my God.

Speaker 6 (07:44):
Okay, so I have to I have to ask you,
even though I'm gonna save this question for last because
I know you do stand up and stuff. But since
we're on the thread of talking about your viral content,
what possessed you?

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Mm hmm, I don't even know this, Yes you do.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
What possessed you to write a song about almost sexuality?

Speaker 8 (08:09):
What made you write back?

Speaker 6 (08:10):
Because if you all have it, we're gonna get watching
to and start a clip.

Speaker 8 (08:13):
There's a video, I'm sure somewhere.

Speaker 6 (08:15):
But the song is basically, you know, Bill Withers A
Lovely Day and it's a beautiful song which we will
never we will never listen to it the same way
ever again.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
And so I don't know why he found up with
these keys. He's not going anywhere.

Speaker 9 (08:30):
Give us the lyrics again.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Just that person's.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
That person's not one.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, we got.

Speaker 11 (08:53):
A hey, shout out. Shout out to my sister. I
love you, I love my sid. She married a she
married a community member. All right, the marriage, I don't
I really don't know what it.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Was because like she didn't know, he was saying when
she married him.

Speaker 11 (09:11):
She had to know because my first time meet him,
he was like, all right, he worked at the grocery
store in the meat department.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
It was like.

Speaker 8 (09:21):
He had the meats, like.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
He had.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
So but he just had a twin to him. It
was just like do you see me, Twain, And yeah.

Speaker 11 (09:35):
I'm like all right, you know he he just he
gave it. Everybody in the family knew. She just I
don't know she could. I think she just my sister
is a very like independent, like dominant, like.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
Like not burly, but.

Speaker 11 (09:57):
She just she likes to be in control, in charge
of the situation. So I think she just, you know,
might have overlooked it.

Speaker 10 (10:05):
You know.

Speaker 11 (10:05):
But you know they did have a beautiful niece shut
out to my niece. She's very athletic, you know, but
she also is gay. So you know, they say you
get your trades from your daddy.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
So I.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
My god, I mean it is when your family see it.

Speaker 11 (10:23):
Oh yeah, I was just talking my knees the other
day and she was on FaceTime in bed with her girlfriend.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
They wasn't doing nothing, but she was there. You're sure
they wasn't doing that. She's a senior high school.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
They eat together.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
You know, man, what it can't be close in my No,
they was. They were by themselfn't be in my room.
You couldn't be wrong.

Speaker 9 (10:49):
Mayboy had Remember I had a date on the couch, Yes.

Speaker 13 (10:52):
Had a couch that I couldn't even like girls. If
with sixteen you couldn't like them, You couldn't even yes,
wow girls until I was sixteens crazy.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
That's crazy, premeditated game.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
It's crazy.

Speaker 10 (11:12):
Is that?

Speaker 5 (11:13):
That is wild? When you talk about this on stage,
when you just.

Speaker 11 (11:16):
Stand up, I do, I do sometimes, But that was
so like, that was so long ago.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
I mean, it was like five years ago when I
came up with that.

Speaker 11 (11:22):
So I don't really dive into the the TG are
no more.

Speaker 8 (11:27):
I mean, but it's going to live forever, you know,
that's on internet.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
Yeah, it never goes away.

Speaker 11 (11:32):
It does, but you can kind of suppress it if
you don't bring it back up, you know.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
But we're bringing it up, so I kind of gets here.

Speaker 6 (11:39):
We'd Resacristan to say it's probably going to reserve it.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Does I mean, okay, because you put it?

Speaker 5 (11:44):
Did you put it up on streaming sites? You get
paid for strange and stuff?

Speaker 4 (11:47):
So I did, but just rest and peace of yeah
really yeah yeah. It was like nah nah.

Speaker 11 (11:57):
So on tom Court that's the sitey that you up
music on. I was making a head a little money,
but now it's to the point like I gotta make
other songs to cancel out my money on there because
that was like, no, you can't make you keep it.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
They won't let me depositive. Yeah, a lot of stuff
going on.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
Wow, I never knew that's crazy because I did mine through.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Uh just original though, your stuff, sir.

Speaker 12 (12:30):
J T standing down by the way, yo out, don't
know what you come like. You put off that record.

Speaker 6 (12:35):
I couldn't believe you put out that left field. That
was one fish to fish man. I'm just glad Karisha
didn't get on that girl. Kha was Saucy Santana here.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
You can't. You can't go back before with Saucy.

Speaker 8 (12:51):
But I had a little because you know, Uzzi and
Saucy kind of in the same. I ain't going to
Uzzi Saucy, so she would.

Speaker 6 (13:01):
She'd be able to help her out with a little comeback.
That man looked this interested.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (13:06):
I've seen the clip with them recently. He's like he
didn't give a damn.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Out of that.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
Okay, warm man, that's why.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
You would be you think he came if he ain't
he the one that get not. He definitely leading us on.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
And I don't know why in that direction.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Why he rolled his eyes a lot, you right, he rolled.

Speaker 8 (13:25):
His eyes a line.

Speaker 6 (13:27):
It's the person ruffle socks leggings.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Listen they did back in the day.

Speaker 6 (13:34):
Now, as I said, that was the thing that was
the old school of singers.

Speaker 12 (13:38):
Look, they had halt the tops and bail bottoms and
bail bottom tight jean.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
And let's be clear, Prince would take your girl. Prince
is different. We never and Prince.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
Saying I'm so Prince that there had to be.

Speaker 8 (13:53):
I'm saying clothing.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
What I'm saying what To Alton's point, there was a
time when men were and it was acceptable and girls
were passing out when they saw it.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Prince na UZI yeah.

Speaker 12 (14:07):
Prince boll. Prince said he wasn't a woman of a man.
There's some of you will never understand. He said that
in the song So Prince is the only concert I
kept watching. He had his ass cheek out and I
ain't I ain't cover my eyes. I mean, you cover
your eyes. Every man can say that, but it is Prince.
But he had both boota cheeks out and we kept
singing us because if it was, if it was saucy,

(14:29):
I do this now, I'm not white. I'm not looking
at that saucy ass. But Prince asked, I looked at
that whole concert. Both cheeks, man, he still had them out,
that cracked to the cracked one out, but it had
bot cheeks out.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
And nobody closed the part of.

Speaker 8 (14:45):
The cup because you know the bottom part be darkened.

Speaker 12 (14:46):
But he didn't get it was it was. I don't
want to explain another man ass cheek what it is?
I say, what verse, Well, here's the thing it's Prince. Yeah,
and as a man, you can you can look at
a concert with Prince as out because it's Prince you see.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
I'm yeah, we can we can move on.

Speaker 6 (15:01):
Okay, we can move on.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
We can move on. But I just want to Hey,
all right, he could tell you.

Speaker 12 (15:08):
I just don't want man looked at the concert as
soon the whole song you.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
I will talk for you.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
That's where I said that too, with the butt cheeks out.

Speaker 8 (15:18):
Speaking of moh, Danny was sentenced.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
Toikes this is a this is an episode for y'all. Yeah,
last Friday, we finally about out. He's doing fifty months.

(15:42):
What y'all think about the herd it? He's doing fifty
months for the booty. I'm fighting tears, y'all waselling me like, okay, dang,
what I saying.

Speaker 8 (15:58):
I'm trying to do the episode.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
I just got a bringing back.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
I was trying to do the episode. Okay, I'm back, Okay.
So Diddy was sentenced to fifty months in prison. He
was found guilty of two counts of transporting women to
engage in prostitution four years and two months specifically, along
with five years of supervised released and a half a billion.

Speaker 8 (16:25):
Oh Jesus sorry, half a million dollar five.

Speaker 6 (16:28):
He does get credit with tom served, which he has
since he's been in prison since September of last year. Now,
they said he could have been sentence to eleven years,
but he was sending to only four.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (16:39):
People like dj Envy are still defending Diddy and stating
that he was railroaded. His sending s he was unfair.
And I have a bunch of stuff to say about
dj Envy, but I'm will say, how can you say
that a man who abused people, trafficked people for year
decades at this point?

Speaker 8 (17:01):
How how light should we go on the sentence? You
know what I mean? Like, what are we thinking here?
Slap on the rest? We want him out free.

Speaker 6 (17:07):
In the streets, on him just being his friend. It
don't matter next about facts. People are just like that.
But that's my friend. I don't want my friend to
go jail. It's just paying as a rapist that part.
It's literally friends in online little cockrokes don killed thirty people,
stab two of them, rob the pregnant woman.

Speaker 9 (17:26):
No, let him stay in there.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
He's a minute to society.

Speaker 8 (17:30):
Okay, you need to set down or get squashed.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
Somewhere up in there, like we just don't have time
for this, like the friend thing, and not stay in
the facts or dealing with the facts of what he's
actually done, and then him doing the time for what.
We don't have time for this, don't don't. I don't
think anything about it. I think he got less than.
I think he should ride in prison, That's what I'm saying.
He got less than with his third but he still
got to do the time.

Speaker 12 (17:51):
Yeah, sure, I'll tell you. Actually, I have been looking
at that video with Cassie. I don't see how anybody
can take up for him, you know what I'm saying.
I just I just don't see it. And then Donald
Trump was you know that. You know, they asked him
if he's gonna part them and all that, and I'm like,
he got to think about it so he may pardon them.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
I heard he got a job for him.

Speaker 8 (18:13):
I'm not surprised.

Speaker 12 (18:14):
Yeah, he's supposed to be like doing He's supposed to
be all over domestic oil or something like that.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
He's supposed because he they say, you know where the
oil at.

Speaker 12 (18:22):
So he's supposed to be all both all the domestic
all because you know, they drilled it.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Drill, baby, drill, and so they so they're trying to
get him out so he could be.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
A seventeen year old boy in New Jersey. I think
my my favorite thing about black women, because you know,
I love me some black women very much, pro black women, absolutely,
My favorite thing about black women, you know, is I
always say this, like, anytime I even hint at needing something,

(18:55):
the first person to respond as a Black woman, even
though even though we have met energy vampires, even though
we have met people that are users and manipulative and
only want to glean from us, even though I feel like,
despite all of that, black women be the first every time.
And so I think, just watching watching you grow, because

(19:16):
I'm saying I've been a fan for a while, probably
about to be able creepy here in a minute, Like
I've been watching you, and I'm like, I'm watching you
grow and all the wonderful things that are happening for you,
like your your poetry penetrates, like it's it's kind of
like people are going through things that they can't express
and they can't put their finger on it, and then

(19:39):
one of your videos comes by and it's like, oh,
what I was feeling, and so from the bottom of
my heart, thank you.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
For Jakes allowing gods to use you and sharing.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
Your gift with people because you have no idea how
many people you reach and the following getting.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
To a girl that's nothing everybody get they paid.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
You have no idea how much that helps me because
I started writing my poetry feeling so.

Speaker 10 (20:05):
Invisible and unseen.

Speaker 6 (20:07):
So just knowing what it does for other people is like,
this is not all for nothing.

Speaker 10 (20:11):
So thanks you all for either. Thank you for helping
me feel seen.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
This is like imagine you get online and you start
yapping and share your story and people care, right, seriously,
definitely do no. I think we also do we have
because we wanted to play like a snippet of her.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (20:32):
I think it's if I never got to love you,
if I never get to love if I never get
to love you. Yeah, I like that one. So, so
what are you looking forward to most about being back
in a Yeah, well I originally came three things right,
So what I publicly said was, you know, my sister's
having a baby, so I wanted to be here and

(20:52):
help with my niece, which is true because she had
to have a C section, and my niece is gorgeous.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
She came two days.

Speaker 10 (20:56):
Before my birthday. My daughter. We're all of yos.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
That's like me and my family, my mother, me and
my niece, and my.

Speaker 10 (21:05):
Mama said yo too. My daughter, my niece were all LEO.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
I'm having the time of my life. So I wanted
to be here and help me with the baby. I
wanted to be here for the opportunities because, you know, Atlanta,
it's kind of like you might need to create your
opportunity sometimes, but if you and the not in the
mood to create, you could find an opportunity. Absolutely, if
you could find something to do. It's always something to do.
But the third reason, I was.

Speaker 10 (21:29):
Just getting over a nigga and I was like, I
need to go.

Speaker 6 (21:34):
I throw myself in the work very cranes in the sky,
you know, so long I said, don't do that, and
I was like that I'm gonna do it anyway.

Speaker 10 (21:44):
So I've just.

Speaker 6 (21:44):
Been working it away and just it's definitely the helping.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
But it helps you though.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
It helps your career, it helps your passion. Like girl,
you it's you're flexing the muscle right now. Even if
the reason is eltyse niggas. You know, even the reason
I tell people, whatever your motivation is, just go ahead
in it, just.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Because that's how I got started too.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
It's like I was coming.

Speaker 6 (22:03):
Out of a terrible relationship and I just thought it girl.

Speaker 10 (22:08):
Like that man o BBM, sad face. It's very detrimental
to the brand. You know, my brand is being done
over a nigga. So it kind of works out.

Speaker 6 (22:20):
But again that's I have no idea what I'm doing.
And I was like, you know what, every time I
get my heart broke, I just leave. I don't deal
with that ship. That's why I've been in so many cities.

Speaker 10 (22:29):
From New York, I moved to.

Speaker 6 (22:30):
California, get over one nigga, and then I moved to
Houston and get over one nigga.

Speaker 10 (22:34):
And I moved to Atlanta, get over another nigga.

Speaker 6 (22:35):
It's like, all right, I'm still eventually stop playing with you,
all right, see that now you know.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
What Paris is personally, I'll get.

Speaker 10 (22:47):
On the plane now.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
It's nothing.

Speaker 10 (22:49):
I'm up. That's my favorite thing. When I'm talking out
of situation. It's not going to get Granny and some
more ship off of this.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
Yeah, girl, we're gonna play the wheels off this album.
We're gonna listen, We're gonna support, We're gonna tell everybody
we know to.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
Listen and support, and.

Speaker 10 (23:06):
Were ready to tell here.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (23:07):
So this is not the story of how we end
up together. No matter how much time it seems we're spending,
this does not end with us walking down the aisle
with no fairy tale happy ending. This is a tale
as old as time, and I'm sure we've all played
this part. In fact, this is the story of being
in love with someone who will never love you back.
At first, you wait around with hope, thinking like, if
you just give it time, the more they see you're

(23:29):
right for them, the more that you could change their mind.
But some things never change no matter how many positive
traits you flaunt. That ain't gonna make them fall for you.
If you're just not the one they want, and so
you want to get over them. You distract yourself heating
other people, but it always feels so out of place
because none of it can equal to the way you
feel when you see they face. You be so deep
in your denial, saying you're okay with being friends when

(23:50):
you do anything to make them smile, so you get
distant because you know there's a woman he wants, but
you're never gonna be in, so you think watching him.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
Love other women will hurt much less if you don't
see it. The only way to really move on is
let go.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
I wrote this letter to break free, and if I
never get to love you, I hope you find a
woman that loves you just as much as me. I
hope she wakes up every morning and prays for you
before you start your day. I hope you feel comfortable
enough to tell her the things that you're uncomfortable to say.
I hope she loves your family as much as you
do and is a huge asset in your world. I
hope you plant seeds inside her soil and.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
She gives you a little boy and girl.

Speaker 6 (24:27):
I hope she cooks you all your favorite foods and
loves your favorite movies too. I hope you never have
to be on guard with her, because she feels just
as safe as you. I hope you never have nothing
to prove, because with her you feel no resistance. She's
not there for your accolades or accomplishments. She just loves
you for your existence, and I hope it's consistent. I
hope you never have to spend another day wonder room

(24:48):
will be in love feels like cause you deserve a
love that's free from chaos, that real black movie RHM
com type. And if I never get to love you,
I hope the woman that does appreciates what she has
because you deserve to endure with someone who just loves
on you so bad. And although I'm sad, I mean
this with everything in me. This is not a new confession.
I just want to see you happy for real. I've

(25:09):
never loved you from possession, the only thing I possessed.
It's love for you and my desire for your peace.
May you find the love that you're looking for, and
may I finally be released.

Speaker 10 (25:24):
I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
My chest was hurting.

Speaker 10 (25:27):
Girl, me personally. I hope.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
I hope you pass.

Speaker 10 (25:33):
The grave is deep.

Speaker 14 (25:33):
I hope you on every country and county. Okay, your
pillow may never be cool. I wish that upon girl?
What this is good?

Speaker 5 (25:45):
Wrenching?

Speaker 6 (25:45):
How how are you going here? So it was like
an unrequired love. A lot of people think that poem
is about an X. It's about the man that I
never got to have, so I'm able to wish him well,
because it's not like we dealt with each other. And
you know, it's like, if I never get to be
the one that loves you, then I hope you find
that love.

Speaker 8 (26:06):
Yeah, that sounds so much.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
The whole difference, I think, Oh my god, But that's
why I'm like this, you will never love me back
because we never got to love each other. That's like,
if I never get the chance to love you, then
I hope you find that somewhere because I want you
to be happy, but clearly you don't want me to
be the one that.

Speaker 10 (26:22):
Makes you happy, So I hope you're going to find
that happiness. Girl. It was devastating.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
That is devastating.

Speaker 6 (26:31):
I had a lot of people in the comments like
I don't wish that for none of my exes.

Speaker 10 (26:34):
I'm like, bitch me either, right.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah, a whole nother spin on it, you know.

Speaker 6 (26:40):
And I feel like so many women, I mean, even
women who are probably in relationships and realizing like, this
is not.

Speaker 10 (26:47):
My personal what I want.

Speaker 6 (26:49):
You know what I'm saying, This is not my person,
this is not where I really want to be, Like,
but we.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Just haven't had the opportunity.

Speaker 6 (26:55):
I haven't had the opportunity to meet my actual person.

Speaker 8 (26:58):
Girl, it was.

Speaker 10 (27:01):
A BBM sad face moment for sure.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
Well, you know it is.

Speaker 6 (27:06):
It's one of those things that you're not alone, and
until you share your story you don't realize how not
alone you are. You just kind of suffer through it
and think all this. I just think about like when
I was a teenager, everything in the world was so important. Yeah,
you know, everyone was, oh my god, I will not
survive this. Well now now it's like, oh, you're not

(27:31):
sex some bad block period onto the day, another day tomorrow,
and that too might be a little toxic.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
Oh but you know, like you grow and you learn
and you just start.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
You learn yourself, you learn how the world works, and
you know how to discern what is actually for you.
And so thank you for sharing this with people, because girl,
we sometimes we can't put it towards. Sometimes we are
hurting in places that we can't even find to soothe
the pain. But something, something is coming from and I

(28:03):
have to say it fully is probably inspiration from God.
It's translating because I always say, like, tears is how
you pray when you don't know what to say. I'm
saying that because God hears those and he can he understands.
That particular poem I always say is like it was
like one of the most embarrassing pieces I ever wrote,
right wow, Because women we never really talk about being

(28:25):
friend zoned.

Speaker 10 (28:26):
We always talk.

Speaker 6 (28:27):
About like, oh I cut this guy off, or oh
he was cheating so I had to walk away from
the relationship. It's like that feeling of why not me
never really hear that express from our perspective. It's always
talking about how men are overlooked, but it's like, no,
some of us women are being overlooked as well.

Speaker 10 (28:44):
So when I wrote it, I was like, this.

Speaker 6 (28:47):
Is going to be extremely vulnerable because I'm being so
transparent about the fact that no matter what I do,
this man just does not want me. But also knowing
that if you still love that person, you want them
to be happy, even if you can't be a part
of their happiness. That's why I said all of the
things at the end of the poem. It's like, this
is how I love you. This is how I love you.
I cook for you, I like your movies, I love
your family, I love all of the things I pray

(29:07):
over you.

Speaker 10 (29:08):
But if you don't love me back.

Speaker 6 (29:09):
Then I hope that the woman that you fall in
love with loves you as much as I love you.
Because my whole thing is like, if you're not going
to choose me, cool, but don't choose somebody that's gonna.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
Love you less less than me.

Speaker 10 (29:24):
I love you so much. Can you please go get
loved like that?

Speaker 6 (29:27):
I just really want you to get loved like that,
even if it's not for me, because I love as much.
I want to make sure, like if I never get
to love you, the woman that gets to love you,
she better be on point. She better know what she has, like,
she better understand that you don't deserve nothing less than
that love. So it was so embarrassing to have to
say that, though, but it was so genuine.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
It's so rejected people feel like.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
And he heard it for sure. Yeah, it was like
I was like, hey, I wrote a poem about this situation,
and it's probably gonna go viral. I didn't know because
it was my first time for performing it that that
performance that Viral asked and I told him like, hey,
I recorded this poem. I don't know if it's gonna

(30:11):
go viral. It might if you hear it. I don't
really want to talk about it, and he was like,
but what if I want to talk about it? I
was like, but if you wanted to talk about it,
I wouldn't have never wrote the poem.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
You exactly we were talking.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Did you ever talk about it?

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Did he ever?

Speaker 15 (30:26):
Like?

Speaker 6 (30:26):
Was there any conversation now that with viral? Like you
know it's about him, You're gonna tell us what you like.
Let me keep that to myself.

Speaker 10 (30:34):
It was an have to bets on around, we're gonna
put the bathroom.

Speaker 6 (30:42):
But it was just it was just like all I'm
gonna say is like the whole situation is just so
embarrassing because it's just no matter what you do, it's
not going to turn out how you want it to
turn out.

Speaker 10 (30:54):
Caro.

Speaker 6 (30:55):
And I had to like acknowledge that to myself, Like
you could write all of these left and staying outside
with the boombox all you want my love.

Speaker 10 (31:03):
But even if he ends up with me, he would
have settled for me because I'm not here he wants
to be with.

Speaker 6 (31:07):
I'm doing too much to try to get you to
choose me. I'm jumping through these hoops like hey, it's me.
Men love from such an organic place. Yeah, and they
love from such a waking up and falling in love place,
like the way that I was trying to get him
to love me like I was, I was losing myself
for him to find a love of me. I will
transform into everything you need. I'll immortalize this love story

(31:30):
for you to the point that it stopped becoming love
and it started becoming idle tree, and God took it away.

Speaker 10 (31:37):
God was like you, saying that.

Speaker 6 (31:40):
Saying mime you starting to to look at him like
he's the indoor be all, like.

Speaker 10 (31:46):
That's not me.

Speaker 6 (31:47):
So yeah, it got bad.

Speaker 10 (31:52):
Been able to share it.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
Though you got it out of you, and it transforms.

Speaker 10 (31:57):
So many other people's lives.

Speaker 6 (31:58):
And the way we now love because except mine is
the only thing I possessed is love for you and
my desire for your peace. May you find the love
that you're looking for, and may I finally be released.
So I wrote that poem knowing I can't write no
more poems about this man. I have to let this go.
This is it, this is who We're done with this.
We can't stay stuck in this feeling for any longer, like.

Speaker 10 (32:19):
Release that man, can't let it go. It was it
was embarrassing.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
There's no other words that.

Speaker 6 (32:27):
But you know, most people were like, you know, it
was heartbreaking, it was devastating. Yeah sure, but it was
so put your whole heart on the line for somebody
that's like, no, that's.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Not it, and that's why you moved to another as why.

Speaker 10 (32:42):
I was like, you know what, you got it?

Speaker 6 (32:43):
Yeah, well it's fifty of them, so and I'm gonna
keep going.

Speaker 10 (32:48):
I'm gonna keep going.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
There don't work out out here after that. I'm telling you.

Speaker 6 (32:59):
Because I'm a plan her.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
I'm a plan I'm a planner as well.

Speaker 10 (33:02):
Well.

Speaker 6 (33:03):
I mean, thank you so much for coming and sharing
a little bit of your story. Obviously it's not the
full story, and obviously there's so much more to be written.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
Make sure y'all go get that album. For no reasons
did you actually.

Speaker 10 (33:19):
On the album?

Speaker 6 (33:20):
I have the pieces that I wrote about him after
that one there, Oh god, get looking at That's what
I said. And what had happened was I hope the
title is what had happened was it's called the Last
Sad Love Poem.

Speaker 10 (33:34):
Okay, well that was it?

Speaker 12 (33:36):
Really?

Speaker 10 (33:36):
The last? It was not. I was so optimistic. I
was like, oh my god.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
She was like wait, this is the last sad love poem.

Speaker 10 (33:49):
Everything is finally working out in my favor, and it
was just like, ah, so you thought okay.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
Again, right, So y'all gotta love this. I want to
know what happened. Yes, sure, everybody where they can find you.
You can find me across social media at All Things
Carriage A on Instagram or I am carriage A on
all my other platforms, and on my website I am
Carriage No, my website is all Things Carriage A. That's
where you can find all of my ebooks to read

(34:15):
some of the poetry that you'll be able to listen to.
I love The album is available everywhere app Music, Spotify
title iHeartRadio.

Speaker 10 (34:24):
I have no idea what I'm doing.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
That is the title you can find it. I have
no idea what I'm doing By Carriage.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
I love it.

Speaker 6 (34:30):
I love the transparency of it all. Thank you so
much for coming on. Oh my gosh, Okay, well sadly
all the week.

Speaker 15 (34:44):
So y'all, look, this is the end of the episode.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
We had an amazing you know, you can see the
visuals on YouTube on Thursdays. Okay, but if you want
to hear an audio, you can listen to us wherever
you listen to your podcast. Just make sure you like,
comment and subscribe, and hit that notification Bell.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Said you'll know every time you can fload.

Speaker 10 (35:13):
Hey bye,
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