June 13, 2023 • 50 mins
Scarlett Moffatt tells Alex about her journey to fame, overcoming school bullies, how she ended up on Gogglebox, and her ongoing pregnancy as she takes us on a tour of her beloved County Durham, with some surprises along the way.
We matched Scarlett with an original Rover 25 – the car her boyfriend Scott drove when they were teenagers. Her journey takes us from her primary school in Bishop Auckland to the ‘Gogglebox House’ where her TV breakthrough was filmed, via her dance school and even her favourite chip shop.
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Scarlett Moffatt (00:01):
My best friends are all drag queens. Miss Testicle, Miss
Emma Roids. I should have been on top of the world.
I was just like, oh, what is happening? This is so scary.
Dad used to hide behind the bathroom door and he
would pretend to have fell down the plug hole. Help, help I'm down the plug hole.
Alex Legouix (00:22):
This is Show on the Road, brought to you by
AutoTrader. We're driving famous faces on a personalized road trip,
visiting the places that help shape them and hearing how
the locations turn them into who they are today. We've
matched each celebrity with a car chosen specifically for them.
So join me, Alex Legouix as we get this show
(00:44):
on the road. In 2013, Channel 4 launched Gogglebox, a
hit TV show that launched the career of today's guest.
I am in Bishop Auckland in County Durham, which is
where the lovely Scarlett Moffatt was born and still lives
as an adult. The I'm a Celebrity
Jungle lives just a few miles from the town and
(01:08):
I'm very excited for her to show us around an
area that she is really proud of. We've matched her
with a Rover 25, a 2005 old school car that I
think will remind her very much of her youth.
Scarlett Moffatt (01:23):
Oh, look at it, a little Rover. Oh, that's so cute. I feel like a girl racer again. Hello. Oh, this is so cute. This is so cute.
(01:43):
So this was... So Scott, who I'm having my baby with,
my boyfriend. We've known each other since we were like kids.
And his first ever car was a Rover 25.
Alex Legouix (01:54):
I love that.
Scarlett Moffatt (01:55):
Yeah. It was so cute. I used to love it. I was gutted
when he got rid of it.
Alex Legouix (02:00):
It's 18 years old. Must have been one of the
last Rovers ever produced.
Scarlett Moffatt (02:06):
Yeah. It's really hard to get them now. They like proper
niche. Yeah. Because I always say, maybe for his like
50th or 60th, I would love to get him one, just so
we could reminisce on when we were 17 and he
used to pick us up from the town. This is
so... This is bringing back so many memories and now
I'm having a little baby with him.
Alex Legouix (02:27):
That's mad, isn't it?
Scarlett Moffatt (02:27):
Yeah, it is really mad.
Alex Legouix (02:28):
What sort of memories is it bringing back?
Scarlett Moffatt (02:32):
It used to have a... Is it called a subwoof?
Alex Legouix (02:35):
Yeah, subwoofer.
Scarlett Moffatt (02:36):
Yeah, in the back. And we used to just play happy hardcore music.
It would be like MCing, there was these MCs called
DJ Rank and they'd be like, go, go giddy giddy go giddy giddy go. And
we'd just have the music blasting. It was like the
best thing ever when you were like 17.
Alex Legouix (02:52):
Before we get going. You are obviously heavily pregnant right
now. How many months?
Scarlett Moffatt (02:59):
I never work it out. Well, this is the thing, everyone
thinks women are pregnant nine months, but it's actually 10.
Alex Legouix (03:04):
I know.
Scarlett Moffatt (03:05):
Why are we downplaying it?
Alex Legouix (03:06):
I know.
Scarlett Moffatt (03:06):
This needs to stop.
Alex Legouix (03:07):
And it feels like a lot more than 10.
Scarlett Moffatt (03:08):
It feels like five years I've been pregnant.
Alex Legouix (03:10):
Yeah, I agree. So technically we should just say it's
five years and it just happens to happen in 10 months.
Scarlett Moffatt (03:16):
But I'm 31 weeks.
Alex Legouix (03:17):
Wow. Do you feel ready?
Scarlett Moffatt (03:20):
Yeah. Does anyone ever feel ready? I don't know.
Alex Legouix (03:24):
No. Not at all. Have you had any random cravings through your pregnancy?
Scarlett Moffatt (03:30):
Well, grated cheese. Specifically just the texture. Not even eating
it, just feeling it.
Alex Legouix (03:37):
No.
Scarlett Moffatt (03:37):
Yeah. Just wanting to feel grated cheese. But then I'd
eat it after. I don't want to waste food and that.
Honeydew melons. Something I never really knew I liked that much,
but I mean, in my first trimester I was sometimes
having three melons a day. You couldn't move in our house for melons.
And then, I mean this is a weird one, but
(03:58):
bacon and banana. But it works. So you just wrap
a little rasher of bacon around a banana. Which isn't
the most healthy, so I try to not have many bacon
covered bananas because you know...
Alex Legouix (04:12):
I guess that's sort of like when you have pancakes
with bacon and liquid syrup. It's sort of that sweet-
sour thing.
Scarlett Moffatt (04:18):
Yeah, we'll go with that. That makes it sound normal then, doesn't it?
Alex Legouix (04:20):
Yeah.
Scarlett Moffatt (04:21):
It's normal to wrap your bananas in bacon.
Alex Legouix (04:23):
Yeah. I'm mean the image is taking me...
Scarlett Moffatt (04:28):
Just imagine me eating that, with only me in pants with
a blanket wrapped around us. Scott is a lucky man.
Alex Legouix (04:37):
You were born here. You grew up here.
Scarlett Moffatt (04:39):
Yeah, County Durham. And I feel like it's funny because
if you're not from the north, you assume that Manchester
is orth and people are like, oh, did you pop to
Manchester? Manchester's like three hours away on a train.
Alex Legouix (04:52):
It's mad, isn't it?
Scarlett Moffatt (04:52):
Yeah. So I class Manchester as south.
Alex Legouix (04:55):
Really?
Scarlett Moffatt (04:55):
Yeah. I feel like you're only true N orth when you
get to Leeds, Yorkshire. Then you've hit the North, I
feel. But I'm excited to show you about.
Alex Legouix (05:06):
Yeah, I'm very excited to be here. You've obviously spent and,
we'll delve into that, a little bit of time in London,
but do you notice a massive difference between the south
and the north or the southerners and the northerners?
Scarlett Moffatt (05:20):
I hate stereotyping but it is a different world, London.
I remember going down and you've just got so much
choice there. I remember the first ever time I went to London,
I was only 21 because I'd never been to London
before all the telly stuff sort of started. And I
went for a meeting and I just wanted a cup
(05:42):
of tea and some toast, which you would think is a really
simple order up N orth. I'll just have a cup of
tea and some toast. They were like, do you want sourdough?
Bear in mind, I was only 21. They were like, do you want sourdough, oat, brown? Then
they were like, do you want salted butter, unsalted? I
was like, I don't know. I didn't even know that was a thing. Then
the amount of types of tea you could get was ridiculous.
(06:03):
And then the milk options, I was like... In the
end I just went, look, I just want milk from a cow.
I don't know what it's called down here, but I just want milk
from a cow. Just any type of bread with somthing soft. Because
I was starting to...
Alex Legouix (06:17):
Then you overthink it and then you actually can't make
a decision because there's too much choice.
Scarlett Moffatt (06:21):
And then again, avocados weren't really a thing up here
until a few years ago. I remember putting a picture
on my Instagram and my friend Billy ringing us and going,
why have you got guacamole on your breakfast? And I
was like, what? She was like, why have you got
fajita sauce on your... I was like, no, it's avocados. It's
a thing down here. It's just a vegetable.
Alex Legouix (06:44):
Off we go. So tell me about Bishop Auckland. Why
is this such a lovely place?
Scarlett Moffatt (06:50):
I mean for me it's just home really. And this is
where all of my family are. I feel like home for me
is where my family is because we are like the
Geordie Von Trapps really. We are very close family. So
all of us live within five miles.
Alex Legouix (07:11):
Yeah, that's nice.
Scarlett Moffatt (07:12):
Five minutes away from each other. The furthest person's like
10 miles away.
Alex Legouix (07:16):
It's going to really help having your family so close
when you give birth.
Scarlett Moffatt (07:21):
Oh, I can't wait. Everyone's already... I feel like I could write
a rota of when people are going to look after him.
Alex Legouix (07:28):
You should. Yeah, that's a good idea.
Scarlett Moffatt (07:30):
Although he might come and I might not want to
share him with anyone. I don't know how I'm going to be.
Alex Legouix (07:34):
Yeah, I wonder.
Scarlett Moffatt (07:36):
Because Scott seems to think... He's like, oh, we can
go on a date night once a week. I'm like
once a week? I think you're pushing it there. So
if you're from County Durham as well, which is Bishop Auckland.
So up North we all have names. So if you're
from Middlesbrough, you're a Smoggie. If you're from Newcastle, you're a Geordie. Sunderland's, Mackem.
(07:58):
And if you're from County Durham, you're a pit- yacker.
Alex Legouix (08:01):
A pit-yacker?
Scarlett Moffatt (08:02):
Yeah, pit- yacker because basically this is... It's just... Basically
County Durham is just a collection of mine and villages
and mine and towns. So yeah, we're called little pit- yackers. Yeah,
it's very industrial area. But so it's just so lovely.
The people are so friendly over here. I think that was
(08:22):
the main difference when I moved down to London. Not
saying Londoners aren't friendly, you are, but it's just that
sense of community that felt like it was missing. All
your neighbours around here, if there's like, I don't know,
if it's heavy snow, whatever, everyone goes round... And a bit like the
old days. People make stew and send it to your
house and make sure we are all all right and stuff.
(08:46):
It's hard to feel lonely up north. So we're actually in
Shildon now.
Alex Legouix (08:51):
Right. Okay.
Scarlett Moffatt (08:52):
So this is how close all the towns are together. So
this is actually... So I was born in Bishop Auckland, and
then we moved to Shildon from when I was one year old
until I was about 11.
Alex Legouix (09:04):
Oh right, okay. So really strong formative memories.
Scarlett Moffatt (09:07):
And this is really well known for trains.
Alex Legouix (09:11):
Right. Hang on, Dabble Duck Industrial Estate. And then we also
just drove past Bluebell Road or something like that.
Scarlett Moffatt (09:19):
Everything sounds like it's from fairytales.
Alex Legouix (09:22):
It really does.
Scarlett Moffatt (09:23):
That's cute.
Alex Legouix (09:26):
We are actually almost, or we are on our way
to your primary school.
Scarlett Moffatt (09:30):
Yeah.
Alex Legouix (09:32):
Timothy Hackworth Primary School.
Scarlett Moffatt (09:32):
Yeah. Timothy Hackworth Primary. Timothy Hackworth, he basically changed the
whole of Shildon in the 18th century because he built a
big place where people could sort of make parts for
trains and stuff. So he really helped the area and
gave people lots of jobs. But there's like, I don't
(09:54):
know even if this is true history, but this is
what we were taught at primary school. There was George
Stevenson and Timothy Hackworth and they both entered a competition
to see who could build a steam train to carry stuff.
And Timothy Hackworth lost and that's the school I went to, the
loser one. Sign of things to come! . Oh, here it
(10:20):
is to the right.
Alex Legouix (10:20):
Oh, so what was little Scarlet like?
Scarlett Moffatt (10:24):
Oh, she could eat an apple through a letter box.
She had a proper monobrow. Do you know? Primary school
was really... I found I loved primary. Secondary was where
it was hard for me, but I've got nothing but
sort of fond memories of primary school.
Alex Legouix (10:42):
Yeah, that's good. If I'd been a fly on the
wall when you were at primary school, what would you
have been like?
Scarlett Moffatt (10:48):
Just a proper geek.
Alex Legouix (10:50):
Really?
Scarlett Moffatt (10:50):
I was such... Yeah, like a proper geek. I loved just learning
about just anything. I would do extra homework. I once
remember in year six I was learning about... This is how boring
I was. It shows I didn't have many friends, about
farm diversification. And I wrote, my mom still got it, a 60-
(11:12):
page sort of just booklet. It had a contents page,
a glossary and everything. No one asked me to do it.
That's how I chose to spend my time as an 11- year- old. That
was where I got my kicks.
Alex Legouix (11:27):
Wow. Yeah, that's cute.
Scarlett Moffatt (11:29):
And then at the back there was a huge field
and it was always nice. So on a sunny day
they opened the gates for the field and we would
all play things like bulldog, until it got banned. It
always ends up getting banned. Stick in the mud. Did
you ever play kiss, cuddle, or chase?
Alex Legouix (11:50):
Oh yeah. I mean, I think it was just kiss, chase. I
think we avoided... I didn't bother with the cuddles or
the... I went straight in there.
Scarlett Moffatt (11:58):
He used to love kiss, cuddle, chase. He used to
love all that sort of stuff.
Alex Legouix (12:02):
Yeah, me too. You call yourself a geek. So were you
quite shy or not? Were you quite chatty then ?
Scarlett Moffatt (12:09):
I wasn't shy, but from an early age realised that
my interests were a lot different to my friends. So
I think it comes from my dad. Me and my dad are
really close. And when I was from the age of five,
we would go metal detecting and we would... Yeah, we
would go and do civil war reenactments where we would
(12:29):
get to dress up and go to Winchester Fort and
dress as Romans. And he was really into aliens.
Alex Legouix (12:37):
Oh, so that's where your alien love and conspiracy theory
passion came from.
Scarlett Moffatt (12:42):
So I would come into school and start... Me and my dad
would take a notepad and we'd take our Labrador, Glen
for a walk just at Dabble Duck Industrial Estate actually,
down the road. And we would just... I'd go into
school and I'd be like, I've seen a crop circle.
Alex Legouix (12:56):
No.
Scarlett Moffatt (12:56):
And obviously kids were like... You know what I mean? Because a lot of
my friends went to the scouts and stuff like that and the brownies,
whereas I was out metal detecting and dressed like a Roman.
Alex Legouix (13:08):
I love that. Did you ever find anything quite exciting?
Scarlett Moffatt (13:11):
Oh, we did actually find once, but you have to
hand them back in. We found a coin from the
16th century, which I remember, I think we spoke about
that for a year. Everyone we met, we'd be like,
we found this coin.
Alex Legouix (13:28):
Oh my gosh.
Scarlett Moffatt (13:28):
It was really... Yeah, it was a big thing. I remember that
being a big moment in my life, but a lot
of the times we just found buttons.
Alex Legouix (13:37):
Just stuff. Oh, I really like the idea of finding something really,
really random.
Scarlett Moffatt (13:43):
Oh, I'd love that. Imagine. I mean, just to find
something that was worth actual dollar.
Alex Legouix (13:49):
And not having to give it back as well.
Scarlett Moffatt (13:51):
Rather than just tins of fosters and buttons, which is
what we found most of the time. But I think it was just spending time
with my dad that I enjoyed to be fair. It was just fun. Oh, I love that
we've got the primary school because I drive past it
all the time, but I never really think about it.
(14:12):
You know what I mean? So it's quite nice to
have a little stuff and remember it. I remember, I'm
still friends with... So my best friend at primary was
called Rosie, and every Friday we used to go to her
house and her dad used to make us pancakes and he'd
have rhubarb in his garden and he'd give us a cup
of sugar and some sticks of rhubarb. And then we'd
eat that. Obviously we'd be buzzing because we'd that much
(14:34):
sugar and then make dance routines up to steps.
Alex Legouix (14:39):
Oh, so you're still friends with Rosie now?
Scarlett Moffatt (14:39):
Yeah.
Alex Legouix (14:42):
That's nice.
Scarlett Moffatt (14:42):
Yeah, it's really nice. And Sarah, who I was good
friends with at primary. I mean I'm godmother to her
children now, and we lived together at university.
Alex Legouix (14:54):
So has it changed your school or does it look
exactly the same?
Scarlett Moffatt (14:58):
Do you know what? Looks exactly the same. I remember that little shelter thing used to be
where you put your bikes, but then they changed it
and we all had to have a vote. It was my first
little dabble in politics of having a vote and it
was either going to be made into a quiet area
or it was going to be made in... Where it
was going to have little swings and stuff. And apparently
(15:21):
everyone voted for it to be a quiet area. And that's
when I learned politics could be rigged because there's no way.
Alex Legouix (15:27):
Yeah, there's no way.
Scarlett Moffatt (15:27):
A bunch of 8 to 11 year olds went, no, we don't want swings.
To tell you what, we'll have a quiet area.
Alex Legouix (15:33):
That's so true.
Scarlett Moffatt (15:34):
I don't know anybody that voted for it, but Timothy Hackworth,
they say that it was all fair. But I actually
trained to be a primary school teacher. That's what I
did at university. So I feel like actually that's... I
owe that school a lot because if I didn't go
(15:54):
on to do primary school teaching at university, I wouldn't
be sat here now because I met my friend Tommy
at uni who gave us the opportunity to go on Gogglebox.
Alex Legouix (16:06):
Yes. Okay.
Scarlett Moffatt (16:06):
Because that was a total sort of fluke that he rang us
one day and was like, you know loads of people,
I've got this job where I'm casting people for a
show where you watch the telly. I was like, oh
my word. They'll make shows about anything. People watching the
telly. We're going to be watching people watching the telly.
And I couldn't find anyone. Everyone was like, no, I
(16:29):
don't want to do it. So he was like, can
you and your family just audition? And I was like,
well no, because we don't want to be on the
telly. And they were like, yeah, that's fine. You won't be like, it'll just
be all in house. No one will ever see it.
Alex Legouix (16:41):
No.
Scarlett Moffatt (16:42):
And then they came to the house and they showed us
little clips of the telly and then they showed us
cards of people, of celebrities and we had to talk about
them. And that was on a Saturday. And then on
the Monday we got a phone call saying, yeah, you're
on the show. Can you film tomorrow?
Alex Legouix (16:59):
No.
Scarlett Moffatt (16:59):
And then it was my dad that persuaded me and my mom, because we've got 50
quid in the free takeaway. So we were like, why not?
Alex Legouix (17:05):
Brilliant. That's such a sliding doors' moment.
Scarlett Moffatt (17:09):
It really is. I think I would just still be
enjoying life as a primary school teacher. Probably still have
ended up with Scott. I don't know if too much
would've changed.
Alex Legouix (17:22):
What takeaway did you choose?
Scarlett Moffatt (17:23):
Oh, we used to get fish and chips, Dominoes, chicken
kebabs, the lot. But one of my... And I really want to try
and recreate this with our little boy when he is
born, one of my favorite memories from being a kid
is my dad used to hide behind the bathroom door.
And my mom would be in the bathroom and she'd
(17:43):
be like, come quick, Scarlet, come quick. And he would
pretend to have fell down the plug hole. And he
used to do a squeaky voice and he used to
be like, help, help I'm down the plug hole. And so
I'd have to go and search of things that we
could try and dangle down the plug hole. And then
he'd just stand in the bath and my mom would
be like, oh, don't worry, I've pulled him out. And I'd
be like, oh dad, you really? I was worried there. I thought
(18:06):
you were a goner.
Alex Legouix (18:07):
Oh my God, that's amazing.
Scarlett Moffatt (18:11):
Oh, so this is my dance school.
Alex Legouix (18:13):
Yes.
Scarlett Moffatt (18:14):
So the studio...
Alex Legouix (18:16):
Dianne White Academy of Dance. Is that what it was
when you were young as well?
Scarlett Moffatt (18:19):
Yeah, it was.
Alex Legouix (18:21):
So when were you here?
Scarlett Moffatt (18:22):
So I first came here when I was four years old and then until
I was 17. And just ballroom and Latin dancing. But
it was such a... This is where I sort of
learned a bit of confidence in being a little bit
of a geeky kid because as well, Strictly wasn't on,
(18:45):
ballroom and Latin was sort of an old fogey dance,
but I just absolutely fell in love with it. And this
is where... This was my escape, really. My social side
of life. Oh, I just love cha-cha-cha and walzing and
it was just so fun.
Alex Legouix (19:04):
We're just looking at the front entrance of the studio
and actually it says the studio, doesn't it? It's got
this sort of old school plaque and it says line
dancing, salsa club, old time, ballroom sequence and Latin.
Scarlett Moffatt (19:20):
Oh, look at it. Oh, so many memories.
Alex Legouix (19:24):
Yeah. How much do you think that those years shaped you?
Scarlett Moffatt (19:29):
Oh, I think they must have... I don't think I
would've dared done TV if I hadn't have done dancing.
Because it's sort of like you're still you, but you're sort
of like you... Like an alter ego, I suppose. You
can be like, oh well it's fine because this is
dancing version me. And I think I bring a bit
(19:50):
of my dancing version me in TV, like a bit
of jazz hands and the...
Alex Legouix (19:56):
Heightened version.
Scarlett Moffatt (19:56):
Yeh, definitely.
Alex Legouix (19:57):
The Borocca version of you.
Scarlett Moffatt (19:58):
Yeah, the Borocca version. Yeah, Boorocca Scarlett.
Alex Legouix (20:01):
Yeah, that's so true.
Scarlett Moffatt (20:02):
Oh, that brings so many memories. I want my little boy to dance. I really do.
Alex Legouix (20:04):
That's nice.
Scarlett Moffatt (20:04):
I want him to learn... How do we put... This is my dance teacher.
Alex Legouix (20:11):
Oh wait, wait.
Scarlett Moffatt (20:12):
Hello. Are you all right?
Dianne (20:17):
Hello my darling. How are you?
Scarlett Moffatt (20:18):
Yeah, really good. Thank you. We're just talking about old
times at the dancing. Oh, so many amazing ones. So Dianne,
who was my dance teacher, is actually my little sister's
godmother as well. So it's just...
Dianne (20:30):
And Scarlet's mom is my son's godmother.
Alex Legouix (20:31):
Wow.
Scarlett Moffatt (20:38):
It was just like we spent all of our time
with each other, didn't we?
Dianne (20:41):
I know. We did.
Scarlett Moffatt (20:42):
It was so lovely. It's really nice. Well we've just
been to seem the primary school, Timothy Hackworth. We're just going on a little bit of a
road trip down memory lane.
Dianne (20:53):
I'm off to ASDA! .
Alex Legouix (20:53):
How much has Scarlett changed in your eyes?
Dianne (20:57):
She hasn't.
Alex Legouix (20:57):
She hasn't. Amazing. What you see is what you get.
Scarlett Moffatt (21:01):
I think you definitely brought our confidence in us because
I remember...
Dianne (21:05):
She used to walk in and the head was down like this.
Alex Legouix (21:07):
Oh, really?
Scarlett Moffatt (21:07):
Yeah, I don't know. Something just clicked in us one day and I
just realied like, oh, you can just do...
Dianne (21:15):
Can do this.
Scarlett Moffatt (21:16):
Well I'll let you go then. Give us a kiss. Love you, see you later. Her number plate even says
1, 2, 3 cha like cha-cha-cha.
Alex Legouix (21:28):
I love that. That's so nice to hear as well
that you really... And they really saw a difference in
your confidence.
Scarlett Moffatt (21:37):
Yeah, that's why I think I just encourage anyone with
little ones to just have a hobby. Yeah, dance was life.
Alex Legouix (21:47):
Completely.
Scarlett Moffatt (21:49):
And it had two major competitions a year. And you
would just... At Blackpool at Winter Gardens and then at Blackpool
Tower. And your whole year would just be training for
them dance competitions. And my best friend Sarah, she used
to live just at the end of this street here,
opposite the primary school, which was very handy. Yeah, very
(22:09):
handy having a friend who lived opposite the school.
Alex Legouix (22:14):
So that took you up to... Where were you there
then? What was that? Up until 11?
Scarlett Moffatt (22:19):
11. Yeah.
Alex Legouix (22:21):
And then I guess you went to senior school.
Scarlett Moffatt (22:23):
Yes.
Alex Legouix (22:23):
Was that close to here?
Scarlett Moffatt (22:25):
Yeah, it was actually. Well it's sort of there, but
it's got a different name now. It was sort of... How do I... OFSTED
didn't like the school, it was one of them ones. But I do
think as well, if you want to learn, you will
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even if things aren't as easy. I think was really
lucky and privileged that I had a family that really sort of
helped me do well and stuff. And I'm aware that
not everyone sort of has that. So that's why schools
are really important and why they should be well funded.
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Because if you don't have a good support network, that's
the only place that you've got opportunity to try and
do well. Whereas it wasn't the first secondary school really.
Alex Legouix (23:21):
And how was that? I know that there was one
school that you left. Was it that one?
Scarlett Moffatt (23:26):
No, I actually left a good school to go to that
school, but I was just so badly bullied and it was
sort of like a last resort really. I didn't really
want to. And at the time I felt like, oh, I'm leaving
secondary school and am I doing the right thing? Am I quitting?
But I think sometimes, and as I've grown up, I've
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realized that actually sometimes the best thing to do is
walk away. It doesn't mean that you're a weak person.
Sometimes that can be the hardest thing actually is to
start again, whether that's schools or relationships or anything. Sometimes
that can be the really sort of hard defining moments
in your life. But I felt like I made the right decision
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for me because then I went on and sort of
really enjoyed secondary school. Really enjoyed learning, made friends for life.
Alex Legouix (24:19):
Yeah, that's really good.
Scarlett Moffatt (24:20):
So yeah, I felt like I did the right thing. My dad used to
always say that bullies are like sandpaper. The more they
wear you down, the more polished you become.
Alex Legouix (24:30):
Oh, that's such... That's great.
Scarlett Moffatt (24:30):
And I think that's really, really true.
Alex Legouix (24:31):
That needs to be on a t- shirt.
Scarlett Moffatt (24:35):
We could start an Etsy shop and sell those.
Alex Legouix (24:37):
Let's do it. Let's do it right now from our Rover 25.
Scarlett Moffatt (24:41):
I still love that. We're in a Rover 25. I love it.
Alex Legouix (24:52):
You were obviously really close to your dad, he's come
up a lot in your conversation. What was your family
atmosphere like as a child?
Scarlett Moffatt (24:59):
Just so much fun. I've got a really young family and
it's only as I've gotten older, I've realized just how
young in comparison to my friends that my family are so...
My nan is actually only 68.
Alex Legouix (25:12):
Oh wow.
Scarlett Moffatt (25:12):
So she had my mom, she'd just turned 16. My
mom had me when she'd just turned 19 and my
dad was 22. So I remember being at my mom's
30th birthday, which is crazy now. But that felt really sort of the
norm for me. But I think in doing that we
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sort of weirdly grew up together, for me, my mom and dad.
And even though they are very parenty, as in they've
always got their advice and things, I feel really lucky
that they are my best pals. And I just love spending time... Honestly,
we just have this weird sense of humoor that not
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a lot of other... Even Scott now, even though Scott
and me have been together five years and we always
do everything together. Sometimes they'll just go, I just don't
understand what you are laughing at. And I'm like, maybe it's
just a Moffatt thing. Maybe you just have to be in our
family and a bit warped to get our sense of humor.
Alex Legouix (26:11):
That's so nice. And I love the fact that obviously
really came across on Gogglebox.
Scarlett Moffatt (26:20):
Oh, thanks.
Alex Legouix (26:21):
And are we near your house then?
Scarlett Moffatt (26:23):
Yeah.
Alex Legouix (26:24):
Your old house or current?
Scarlett Moffatt (26:25):
Old house. So it's just at the top. Yeah, this
was my old house. So this was this second house
I ever lived in.
Alex Legouix (26:33):
Wow. So from what age did you say?
Scarlett Moffatt (26:35):
So 11. Or third house actually because when I was a baby
I lived in Bishop Aukland as well. There it is.
Alex Legouix (26:42):
What number?
Scarlett Moffatt (26:44):
36. Oh, so that was the Gogglebox house.
Alex Legouix (26:47):
No.
Scarlett Moffatt (26:48):
Yeah. So they used to zone in on the front
and be "T he Moffatt family". And that was the front
room that we used to film in.
Alex Legouix (27:02):
I feel like it needs more singing and dancing.
Scarlett Moffatt (27:04):
Should have a little Gogglebox plaque on , shouldn't it?
Alex Legouix (27:07):
Yeah, I agree.
Scarlett Moffatt (27:08):
Well we haven't filmed now for 7 years.
Alex Legouix (27:14):
Does it feel like that long?
Scarlett Moffatt (27:15):
No. And you know what? I think because they play sort of
repeats all the time, still people come up and talk
about Gogglebox and I'm like, how's your mom and dad? And I'm
like, yeah, they're really good now. I think they still think I live
with my mom and dad. I'm like, no, we haven't
filmed for seven years. But I've got a lot... I owe a lot to
Gogglebox actually. It really did change sort of the course of
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my life. But this was such a fun street to
grow up in. A couple of doors up was my
friend Craig. And we used to, whenever it was sunny,
have proper sort of water fights and it was just really...
Alex Legouix (27:50):
Does he still live there?
Scarlett Moffatt (27:51):
He doesn't actually. We all sort of moved at the same time. But
yeah, it was just such a lovely, lovely street to
live in.
Alex Legouix (27:59):
Was there a dramatic change when you started Gogglebox in
your world? Or was it...
Scarlett Moffatt (28:05):
Not straight away. I would say actually that it was
the same. I was working as a primary school teacher,
then I started working for the DSA, which is sort of for
disabled or SEN children that go to university or higher education.
And I started working there, would get on the bus
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to go to work or my friend Ivo, at the end
of the month when I didn't have enough money for
the bus tickets, Ivo would pick us up, which I'm
always grateful for. And no, people sometimes chat at work about it. They'd be like, oh,
I watched you on that show. And then Gogglebox sort
of changed to being on just before Alan Carr's Chatty
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Man on a Friday. And that's when all of a sudden
it was just walking into a brick wall of this...
Everything's changed. I just remember walking through ASDA to go to
the bus stop and missing my bus because loads of
people were coming over asking for photos because then social
media started becoming a bit more of a thing then.
Alex Legouix (29:08):
So how long had you been on Gogglebox then, by
this point?
Scarlett Moffatt (29:12):
Two years. Yeah, two years. And then people would be
wanting to chat and stuff like that and then just
felt different.
Alex Legouix (29:23):
Nice different?
Scarlett Moffatt (29:25):
I wish I'd been prepared a bit more, but I
think for sort of a 23 year old I was like,
this is a bit much. I don't know how to
sort of handle it. But then I got offered to
go on I'm a Celebrity and I turned it down
the first time.
Alex Legouix (29:45):
Oh, did you?
Scarlett Moffatt (29:45):
Yeah, because I was just like, God, I just watch the telly.
No one's going to know who I am and stuff. And then I
got asked the year after and that's when I said,
yeah. I love the show. I'd be silly not to do it.
Alex Legouix (29:57):
How obvious is it when you are on the set in
the camp, how obvious is it that it's an actual
set? Are there boom operators? Are there lights?
Scarlett Moffatt (30:09):
No. So actually I feel like I'm a Celebrity is
one of those shows where it's just got it so right.
You literally feel... From the moment that you sort of
taken to wherever it is you're going, you've given blindfolds,
you put head muff things on so you can't hear anything.
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Then you meet your camp mates and then you're just driven...
You drive around for ages in the back of a van,
not knowing where you are. You get into camp, you
feel miles away from anywhere. And after I actually, when
I did the extra camp show for a couple of
years after I realized you're not that far away from
McDonald's and stuff, but it really feels like you are.
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But everything's hidden. You can't see any cameras. Even when
you go and do trials and there's cameramen, they're not
allowed to talk to you and they have stickers over the watches,
so you don't even know what time it is. So
you do really feel like I am stuck in the
middle of a jungle.
Alex Legouix (31:11):
That's so good.
Scarlett Moffatt (31:12):
But then it meant deciding whether to give up Gogglebox or
not. So it was a really big decision because we loved doing
it as a family. But my mom and dad always
said that they would never sort of just do it
them two. They were like, oh, that's our stint on
telly over. You know what I mean?
Alex Legouix (31:33):
And had life changed for them as well?
Scarlett Moffatt (31:40):
No, not as much. I was always a bit envious of that actually
at the beginning.
Alex Legouix (31:44):
Really?
Scarlett Moffatt (31:44):
Yeah, because I was like... Yeah, I don't know if it's because they
were older, but it just always felt like something to
chat about to their friends rather than getting asked for
selfies and stuff. I remember ordering a pizza and getting
papped, getting the pizza from the door and that being
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on the front page of the Sun. And I always
remember thinking, God, I live such a boring life and
yet people seem to want to know about it. And I think that's why
I couldn't get my head around. I think it was
more actually internally that I sort of suffered from imposter
syndrome. I think lots of nice things were happening for
me and because to me, I'm just every other one...
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Everyone be like, oh... The people say I was funny
and stuff. And I'd be like, but I'm no funnier than
all my friends. It's genuinely just another thing I just
happened to be on show that showcases that, but I
think I got imposter syndrome. I think I would worry, oh,
I'm going to get found out. And they're all going
to find out that actually I'm just really boring. I
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think that's what it was. So I think maybe, I
don't know, just someone else who was in the industry
to talk about with. Yeah, I think that would've really helped me.
Alex Legouix (33:03):
Most people, I guess stereotypically would've just had a " normal"
life before something like this happened. But it doesn't sound
like you did.
Scarlett Moffatt (33:11):
I mean, I still feel like I had a really sort of
lucky upbringing. I feel like a few things happened. My
dad got cancer, but it was sort of wrapped around
his spine, so they didn't know if they operated that he
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would make it. And that was over Christmas and I
remember that being really hard. And he actually came home
on Christmas Eve and he was my best friend. So I
feel like that happened. And then because of that happening,
I then developed ticks and got Bell's palsy. Lots of
stuff happened within a year. So that happened. And then
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I was in a bike accident where I smashed all
my front teeth. So that sort of all happened while getting
bullied. Not like a sob story or anything, but just
lot happened in a short space of time that I
think I never really sort of... I just sort of got
on with it because I just wanted all them feelings
to go away. I think when I started seeing that
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people had opinions of me online and the press and
stuff and never read the Daily Mail comments because they're
never very nice. But no one warned me about that.
I think those memories came back and all of a sudden
I felt like I was being bullied again and that actually
what they were saying was right. And I didn't deserve
all these wonderful things happening to me. I should have
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been on top of the world, but really I was
just like, oh, what is happening? This is so scary. But I
didn't want to tell anyone. I didn't want to be
a burden and be like, I'm actually really finding this
hard because everyone was so proud of me that I felt
like I couldn't let them down. So I had to just pretend
I was super happy. And it was actually the Samaritans
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charity that really helped us. And I remember sort of
going to ring them a few times and putting the
phone down and not knowing what to say and then
just talking to this lovely woman on the phone. And
it just genuinely really helped. And that's why if a
couple of years later, once I was all sorted, because
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that gave us the motivation I needed to tell my
family how I was feeling and then get help of actually
going to my GP that then I messaged Samaritans on
Instagram. I was like, if there's any way I can
ever help you, please let me know. And then I
became an ambassador for Samaritans, which was really lovely.
Alex Legouix (35:42):
That's amazing.
Scarlett Moffatt (35:42):
Because I felt like it went really full circle. And I
really hope that people... Even though mine's a bit unique,
I think we've all at some point felt a little
bit lost or a little bit lonely or a bit
of imposter syndrome that it can get better. You're not
always going to feel in a place where it feels
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like you can't quite climb out of that hole. So no, I
feel like yes, Samaritan's I owe a lot too.
Alex Legouix (36:14):
I feel like you really haven't lost sight of the giving
back side of your world.
Scarlett Moffatt (36:22):
I think, to be honest with you, because a lot
of people always... To me, the worst critique I've ever
get is that like, oh, you're different to what you
come across or do you know what I mean? Or
if all of a sudden my mum and dad start being like, oh, you're getting
a bit big for your boots, I would hate that. So
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I just try and not be an a- hole. I
think it's a pretty easy way. I think it's hard
to live in your life being angry in that all
the time and not... I don't know, I just feel like that would
be more exhausting than actually just trying to enjoy every day
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and stuff.
Alex Legouix (37:07):
But you do seem to still be really grateful for
it, which I would imagine that's quite easy to lose
sight of.
Scarlett Moffatt (37:15):
Oh, I just feel like... Well sometimes, especially being pregnant
and hormonal, sometimes I do sort of walk around my
house and just think, I can't believe that this is
where I live or this is my job. And I hope
that never goes, I hope, I always feel really lucky. I
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constantly feel like a competition winner. I genuinely do feel like
I've won at life.
Alex Legouix (37:45):
Yeah, that's really nice.
Scarlett Moffatt (37:45):
I do really feel like that. Yeah, like I said, I hope that never ever goes. Even when
I do shows like, I don't know, Blankety Blank and I'm like, as
if I'm doing Blankety Blank.
Alex Legouix (37:57):
And you're about to become a mother. So all of
those messages that you would want to give your younger
self, you have the opportunity to tell your younger self
because he's about to pop out.
Scarlett Moffatt (38:11):
Yeah, I'm so excited to be a mum. I never
ever knew if it would be on the cards. Honestly,
when me and Scott found out that I was pregnant, I
don't think I've ever been so shocked in my life.
Alex Legouix (38:25):
Really? And so went through your mind?
Scarlett Moffatt (38:29):
Just pure joy actually, which is when I realized, oh,
I must really want to be a mum. Because there was
not one sort of moment where I was like, oh. I was
just like, oh, we're going to have a baby. And
weirdly I just sort of knew. We went on holiday
and I was like, oh, I just don't really want to
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drink or anything. I just feel a bit different. And
then I ordered... When we got back, I ordered pregnancy
tests off Amazon. Scott opened the package and he was like, what are these? And I
was like, they're pregnancy tests. He was like, why? And
I was like, I don't know. I just have a feeling. And it's so weird, isn't it? When I told
my mum that, she was like, no. I was honestly, mum.
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I was like, I felt like I was pregnant.
Alex Legouix (39:14):
Yeah, absolutely. And also you've got a really open mind. The
fact that you are really interested in the psychic and all those
sorts of things, I think that leaves you open to being
a bit more in tune. Plus you've been through a lot.
Scarlett Moffatt (39:28):
Yes. Scott laughs when I put my crystals out on
a full moon.
Alex Legouix (39:33):
Yeah, me too.
Scarlett Moffatt (39:34):
I'm also like, you need to open your third eye, Scott.
And he's like, I wish you wouldn't say that in
public. I'm like, but you do. You just need to
open your third eye more.
Alex Legouix (39:42):
You're going to charge your crystals darling. It's full moon.
Scarlett Moffatt (39:46):
He wants them... You know like the ring doorbells thing...
He rang us as it was half midnight and he was like, what are you
doing in the garden? I was like, it's a harvest
moon, Scott, I'm manifesting. He was like, geez Louise. Because
he was at work, he was like, I keep getting
the garden sensors are going off. He was like, what you doing? I was like, I'm
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just thinking about things that I want to happen.
Alex Legouix (40:14):
I'm right there with you.
Scarlett Moffatt (40:14):
Yeah, I think you're either all in or there's no
in between. You can't be like, oh yeah, I sort of
believe in manifesting. You're either all in or you just don't get it at all.
Alex Legouix (40:26):
But that's interesting because you didn't manifest your Gogglebox journey.
Scarlett Moffatt (40:31):
No.
Alex Legouix (40:33):
But would that have been a fate thing or what
was that?
Scarlett Moffatt (40:37):
Maybe. Yeah, actually. After I started on Gogglebox, I did start
writing a book in the hope that one day I
would get a book published and on it I had
my top three dream jobs and one was to be
Ant and Dec's sidekick, which sort of came true on
Saturday Night Takeaway. And another one was to be a radio presenter,
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which I went on to do for Capital Northeast. And
then the other one was to become Queen of the
Jungle, and I did.
Alex Legouix (41:07):
Wow.
Scarlett Moffatt (41:08):
So I do feel like I sort of... And that
was before I knew about manifesting.
Alex Legouix (41:13):
That's amazing, isn't it?
Scarlett Moffatt (41:15):
I also put on chocolate taster, which hasn't happened yet actually.
Alex Legouix (41:18):
But it still can.
Scarlett Moffatt (41:18):
One day. I'm still waiting for that one to come
true. So my nanny just lives up there.
Alex Legouix (41:26):
Your nan?
Scarlett Moffatt (41:26):
Yeah, literally that house there. My little nan and my granda.
Alex Legouix (41:30):
What's her name?
Scarlett Moffatt (41:32):
So they're called Christine and Tommy Smiles.
Alex Legouix (41:36):
Hi Christine and Tommy. Mr. and Mrs. Smiles.
Scarlett Moffatt (41:37):
Mr. and Mrs. Smiles.
Alex Legouix (41:39):
I love that. Who live in fairytale land. You are a real
advocate for empowering women, aren't you?
Scarlett Moffatt (41:51):
Thanks. I try to. I think there's a fine line.
I just feel like we get such a hard time without being
like, oh, what is us? What is women? I do feel like we have it really hard in
every aspect of our life. And I think the sooner
you realise that you can never win to everyone else
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and you've got to just accept yourself, I think that life becomes
a lot more peaceful.
Alex Legouix (42:19):
Is there a lot of pressure that comes with that role
model sense?
Scarlett Moffatt (42:24):
I think for me, I find it good pressure because
I think it makes us actually not overthink, but I do
think, am I showing my real self here rather than
a polished version all the time.
Alex Legouix (42:39):
And also just thinking, reflecting back on how you were
talking about when the stuff that you were going through when
you were 11, 12, how much harder that would've been if you'd
had social media on top?
Scarlett Moffatt (42:51):
Oh, I can't even imagine that. I grew up going metal detecting, building
forts, being outside playing. My whole life wasn't just tech.
Whereas obviously with my little sister, having a 16 year age gap
between us, I can see how much it sort of
dominates just her and her friend's lives.
Alex Legouix (43:11):
Do you give her advice?
Scarlett Moffatt (43:14):
I mean, she often gives me advice. She's switched on
it. Ava is unapologetically herself. And I'd like to think
a bit of that comes from me and my mom and dad.
But yeah, she's like... When I was a kid I
tried to fit in, whereas Ava's just not bothered. She's
got her friends and they're all very different and she's
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just like, well, why would I want to pretend to
be someone else? Because then they're don't really like us
anyway. And I'm like, yes, but it's took me a
long time to figure that out. You've figured it out
at such a young age. I'm very envious.
Alex Legouix (43:48):
Yeah, that's good. You have a lot of trans and drag
friends, don't you?
Scarlett Moffatt (43:53):
Yes. Try and be a massive ally for the LGBTQ+
community. My little sister's gay. She came out to us
last year, which was really lovely that she felt like...
She'd just turned 16, that she could share that and
know. And my dad said the perfect thing. He just
went... Because she sort of sat us all down in
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this really formal way, which is not my little sister
at all. I think we all started really panicking of
what she was going to tell us. And as soon
as she just said, oh I'm gay. My dad was
like, oh, is that it? I thought it was going to be something bad. And
I was like, oh dad, you couldn't have said a
more perfect thing there.
Alex Legouix (44:33):
That's so true.
Scarlett Moffatt (44:34):
I think she just instantly felt relieved. But yeah, all...
My best friends are all drag queens. Miss Testicle.
Alex Legouix (44:42):
Miss Testicle. That's amazing.
Scarlett Moffatt (44:45):
Miss Emma Roids.
Alex Legouix (44:45):
Oh, I love it.
Scarlett Moffatt (44:48):
Miss Cara and Gucci Gabor .
Alex Legouix (44:51):
God, I'm jealous that I don't have a drag name.
Scarlett Moffatt (44:55):
Oh, what would your drag...
Alex Legouix (44:58):
I need one.
Scarlett Moffatt (44:58):
See I always thought mine would be Donna Kebab, because I feel like I
quite look like a Donna. And then to add... Yeah,
Donna Kebab. She's like little bit trashy, little bit classy,
depending on what time of the night it is. Yours could be like...
Because you sort into cars and traveling all that. Yours could
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be Miss Caravan. Like Caravan. Caravan. Miss Caravan and Donna
Kebab on tour .
Alex Legouix (45:26):
Yeah, there you go. Out out.
Scarlett Moffatt (45:27):
I like that, out out.
Alex Legouix (45:28):
And our theme is?
Scarlett Moffatt (45:30):
Oh, we have to have a theme. We have to
always have a theme.
Alex Legouix (45:34):
Aliens and unicorns.
Scarlett Moffatt (45:37):
Oh yeah, love a unicorn.
Alex Legouix (45:38):
Do they exist?
Scarlett Moffatt (45:42):
I like to think they did at one point. There's no way someone... I
think they're just really thin rhinos. Do you know what I mean? Someone just saw a really thin rhino
and I think we'll call that a unicorn. I'd love them to be real. I
just think what is a world without a bit of
magic and a bit of mystique?
Alex Legouix (46:05):
So presumably this area, you know well?
Scarlett Moffatt (46:09):
Yes. So this area I know well. One because my
mom and dad just live on that street up there.
And secondly, it's got the best fish and chip shop
in the world. There it is, just up there. But opposite
there is the hospital that I was born at and then just
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on this side of the street is the church that I
was christened at. Everything's so close together. Going on this
trip has made me realize how dinky County Durham is.
It's only tiny.
Alex Legouix (46:46):
I love the fact that where we are right now
as well, you've got children playing outside the house.
Scarlett Moffatt (46:51):
Yeah, it's still a big thing up here. I used
to love playing out as a kid.
Alex Legouix (46:58):
Yeah, me too.
Scarlett Moffatt (46:59):
You used to build forts all the time. Loads of forts. Here it is, Beadles! You see
the little fish sign outside? Brings me so much joy
when I can see that little fish.
Alex Legouix (47:14):
What's it like inside?
Scarlett Moffatt (47:16):
It's only dinky but it's just beautiful. It's such a
beautiful fish and chip shop. As a kid, when I
lived at Shildon, we lived opposite a chip shop called
Betty's Fish Shop. And we used to literally go in
and just ask for a bag of scraps. I think back now, it's
literally batter. We literally just eaten batter.
Alex Legouix (47:38):
It's just the best there.
Scarlett Moffatt (47:39):
But it was so nice. And then for ten pence you would get
a massive, and I mean either a massive pickled onion or
a massive pickled egg. We're all just running around stinking, really.
Alex Legouix (47:50):
That's nice.
Scarlett Moffatt (47:52):
Making forts, playing out, eating pickled onions and pickled eggs.
Lived the dream. I hope that you've liked County Durham.
Alex Legouix (48:01):
I absolutely love it.
Scarlett Moffatt (48:04):
I feel like sometimes in the media, the N ortheast is
really portrayed in a bad way.
Alex Legouix (48:12):
No, not at...
Scarlett Moffatt (48:12):
And that's why I really wanted... When I did Scarlet's
Driving School, I really wanted to shine a light on
the people and the scenery and what we had to offer.
Because often it's just when you are on the telly up north,
it's just police intercepters . So it's like crime stuff or
it's like people on benefits and it's like... It's not even...
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There's just such a sense of community and it's such
a wonderful place to live that we're so much more
than that. So any opportunity I can where I get to
talk about the North.
Alex Legouix (48:45):
How has it been taking a trip around your home?
Scarlett Moffatt (48:50):
Hey, look at the car we in. It's unbelievable. Yeah, I felt
17 again sitting in this car and it is really
crazy sort of being in this car as a woman
now with a baby from Scott when he used to
pick me up in this with a bit of MCing in the
background. So yeah, I thought I was going to cry when I first sat in.
I was like, oh, this feels amazing. But no, it's been lovely
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showing you around.
Alex Legouix (49:14):
Thank you.
Scarlett Moffatt (49:15):
No, thank you. I still can't believe you've found this car.
Alex Legouix (49:19):
It's great, isn't it?
Scarlett Moffatt (49:20):
It's insane. It's absolutely insane.
Alex Legouix (49:23):
Enjoy your amazing, spectacular chip sensation.
Scarlett Moffatt (49:29):
Thank you. I will.
Alex Legouix (49:35):
Thanks so much to Scarlett Moffatt for showing me around her beautiful town of Bishop Auckland
and enlightening me on some of the local delicacies. You
can see exclusive footage of the drive by heading to
the Auto Trader socials. Look at the episode page for links.
You'll also be able to see the Rover 25 that
truly took Scarlett back to her teenage years. And if
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My best friends are all drag queens. Miss Testicle, Miss
Emma Roids. I should have been on top of the world.
I was just like, oh, what is happening? This is so scary.
Dad used to hide behind the bathroom door and he
would pretend to have fell down the plug hole. Help, help I'm down the plug hole.
Alex Legouix (00:22):
This is Show on the Road, brought to you by
AutoTrader. We're driving famous faces on a personalized road trip,
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So join me, Alex Legouix as we get this show
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on the road. In 2013, Channel 4 launched Gogglebox, a
hit TV show that launched the career of today's guest.
I am in Bishop Auckland in County Durham, which is
where the lovely Scarlett Moffatt was born and still lives
as an adult. The I'm a Celebrity
Jungle lives just a few miles from the town and
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I'm very excited for her to show us around an
area that she is really proud of. We've matched her
with a Rover 25, a 2005 old school car that I
think will remind her very much of her youth.
Scarlett Moffatt (01:23):
Oh, look at it, a little Rover. Oh, that's so cute. I feel like a girl racer again. Hello. Oh, this is so cute. This is so cute.
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So this was... So Scott, who I'm having my baby with,
my boyfriend. We've known each other since we were like kids.
And his first ever car was a Rover 25.
Alex Legouix (01:54):
I love that.
Scarlett Moffatt (01:55):
Yeah. It was so cute. I used to love it. I was gutted
when he got rid of it.
Alex Legouix (02:00):
It's 18 years old. Must have been one of the
last Rovers ever produced.
Scarlett Moffatt (02:06):
Yeah. It's really hard to get them now. They like proper
niche. Yeah. Because I always say, maybe for his like
50th or 60th, I would love to get him one, just so
we could reminisce on when we were 17 and he
used to pick us up from the town. This is
so... This is bringing back so many memories and now
I'm having a little baby with him.
Alex Legouix (02:27):
That's mad, isn't it?
Scarlett Moffatt (02:27):
Yeah, it is really mad.
Alex Legouix (02:28):
What sort of memories is it bringing back?
Scarlett Moffatt (02:32):
It used to have a... Is it called a subwoof?
Alex Legouix (02:35):
Yeah, subwoofer.
Scarlett Moffatt (02:36):
Yeah, in the back. And we used to just play happy hardcore music.
It would be like MCing, there was these MCs called
DJ Rank and they'd be like, go, go giddy giddy go giddy giddy go. And
we'd just have the music blasting. It was like the
best thing ever when you were like 17.
Alex Legouix (02:52):
Before we get going. You are obviously heavily pregnant right
now. How many months?
Scarlett Moffatt (02:59):
I never work it out. Well, this is the thing, everyone
thinks women are pregnant nine months, but it's actually 10.
Alex Legouix (03:04):
I know.
Scarlett Moffatt (03:05):
Why are we downplaying it?
Alex Legouix (03:06):
I know.
Scarlett Moffatt (03:06):
This needs to stop.
Alex Legouix (03:07):
And it feels like a lot more than 10.
Scarlett Moffatt (03:08):
It feels like five years I've been pregnant.
Alex Legouix (03:10):
Yeah, I agree. So technically we should just say it's
five years and it just happens to happen in 10 months.
Scarlett Moffatt (03:16):
But I'm 31 weeks.
Alex Legouix (03:17):
Wow. Do you feel ready?
Scarlett Moffatt (03:20):
Yeah. Does anyone ever feel ready? I don't know.
Alex Legouix (03:24):
No. Not at all. Have you had any random cravings through your pregnancy?
Scarlett Moffatt (03:30):
Well, grated cheese. Specifically just the texture. Not even eating
it, just feeling it.
Alex Legouix (03:37):
No.
Scarlett Moffatt (03:37):
Yeah. Just wanting to feel grated cheese. But then I'd
eat it after. I don't want to waste food and that.
Honeydew melons. Something I never really knew I liked that much,
but I mean, in my first trimester I was sometimes
having three melons a day. You couldn't move in our house for melons.
And then, I mean this is a weird one, but
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bacon and banana. But it works. So you just wrap
a little rasher of bacon around a banana. Which isn't
the most healthy, so I try to not have many bacon
covered bananas because you know...
Alex Legouix (04:12):
I guess that's sort of like when you have pancakes
with bacon and liquid syrup. It's sort of that sweet-
sour thing.
Scarlett Moffatt (04:18):
Yeah, we'll go with that. That makes it sound normal then, doesn't it?
Alex Legouix (04:20):
Yeah.
Scarlett Moffatt (04:21):
It's normal to wrap your bananas in bacon.
Alex Legouix (04:23):
Yeah. I'm mean the image is taking me...
Scarlett Moffatt (04:28):
Just imagine me eating that, with only me in pants with
a blanket wrapped around us. Scott is a lucky man.
Alex Legouix (04:37):
You were born here. You grew up here.
Scarlett Moffatt (04:39):
Yeah, County Durham. And I feel like it's funny because
if you're not from the north, you assume that Manchester
is orth and people are like, oh, did you pop to
Manchester? Manchester's like three hours away on a train.
Alex Legouix (04:52):
It's mad, isn't it?
Scarlett Moffatt (04:52):
Yeah. So I class Manchester as south.
Alex Legouix (04:55):
Really?
Scarlett Moffatt (04:55):
Yeah. I feel like you're only true N orth when you
get to Leeds, Yorkshire. Then you've hit the North, I
feel. But I'm excited to show you about.
Alex Legouix (05:06):
Yeah, I'm very excited to be here. You've obviously spent and,
we'll delve into that, a little bit of time in London,
but do you notice a massive difference between the south
and the north or the southerners and the northerners?
Scarlett Moffatt (05:20):
I hate stereotyping but it is a different world, London.
I remember going down and you've just got so much
choice there. I remember the first ever time I went to London,
I was only 21 because I'd never been to London
before all the telly stuff sort of started. And I
went for a meeting and I just wanted a cup
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of tea and some toast, which you would think is a really
simple order up N orth. I'll just have a cup of
tea and some toast. They were like, do you want sourdough?
Bear in mind, I was only 21. They were like, do you want sourdough, oat, brown? Then
they were like, do you want salted butter, unsalted? I
was like, I don't know. I didn't even know that was a thing. Then
the amount of types of tea you could get was ridiculous.
(06:03):
And then the milk options, I was like... In the
end I just went, look, I just want milk from a cow.
I don't know what it's called down here, but I just want milk
from a cow. Just any type of bread with somthing soft. Because
I was starting to...
Alex Legouix (06:17):
Then you overthink it and then you actually can't make
a decision because there's too much choice.
Scarlett Moffatt (06:21):
And then again, avocados weren't really a thing up here
until a few years ago. I remember putting a picture
on my Instagram and my friend Billy ringing us and going,
why have you got guacamole on your breakfast? And I
was like, what? She was like, why have you got
fajita sauce on your... I was like, no, it's avocados. It's
a thing down here. It's just a vegetable.
Alex Legouix (06:44):
Off we go. So tell me about Bishop Auckland. Why
is this such a lovely place?
Scarlett Moffatt (06:50):
I mean for me it's just home really. And this is
where all of my family are. I feel like home for me
is where my family is because we are like the
Geordie Von Trapps really. We are very close family. So
all of us live within five miles.
Alex Legouix (07:11):
Yeah, that's nice.
Scarlett Moffatt (07:12):
Five minutes away from each other. The furthest person's like
10 miles away.
Alex Legouix (07:16):
It's going to really help having your family so close
when you give birth.
Scarlett Moffatt (07:21):
Oh, I can't wait. Everyone's already... I feel like I could write
a rota of when people are going to look after him.
Alex Legouix (07:28):
You should. Yeah, that's a good idea.
Scarlett Moffatt (07:30):
Although he might come and I might not want to
share him with anyone. I don't know how I'm going to be.
Alex Legouix (07:34):
Yeah, I wonder.
Scarlett Moffatt (07:36):
Because Scott seems to think... He's like, oh, we can
go on a date night once a week. I'm like
once a week? I think you're pushing it there. So
if you're from County Durham as well, which is Bishop Auckland.
So up North we all have names. So if you're
from Middlesbrough, you're a Smoggie. If you're from Newcastle, you're a Geordie. Sunderland's, Mackem.
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And if you're from County Durham, you're a pit- yacker.
Alex Legouix (08:01):
A pit-yacker?
Scarlett Moffatt (08:02):
Yeah, pit- yacker because basically this is... It's just... Basically
County Durham is just a collection of mine and villages
and mine and towns. So yeah, we're called little pit- yackers. Yeah,
it's very industrial area. But so it's just so lovely.
The people are so friendly over here. I think that was
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the main difference when I moved down to London. Not
saying Londoners aren't friendly, you are, but it's just that
sense of community that felt like it was missing. All
your neighbours around here, if there's like, I don't know,
if it's heavy snow, whatever, everyone goes round... And a bit like the
old days. People make stew and send it to your
house and make sure we are all all right and stuff.
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It's hard to feel lonely up north. So we're actually in
Shildon now.
Alex Legouix (08:51):
Right. Okay.
Scarlett Moffatt (08:52):
So this is how close all the towns are together. So
this is actually... So I was born in Bishop Auckland, and
then we moved to Shildon from when I was one year old
until I was about 11.
Alex Legouix (09:04):
Oh right, okay. So really strong formative memories.
Scarlett Moffatt (09:07):
And this is really well known for trains.
Alex Legouix (09:11):
Right. Hang on, Dabble Duck Industrial Estate. And then we also
just drove past Bluebell Road or something like that.
Scarlett Moffatt (09:19):
Everything sounds like it's from fairytales.
Alex Legouix (09:22):
It really does.
Scarlett Moffatt (09:23):
That's cute.
Alex Legouix (09:26):
We are actually almost, or we are on our way
to your primary school.
Scarlett Moffatt (09:30):
Yeah.
Alex Legouix (09:32):
Timothy Hackworth Primary School.
Scarlett Moffatt (09:32):
Yeah. Timothy Hackworth Primary. Timothy Hackworth, he basically changed the
whole of Shildon in the 18th century because he built a
big place where people could sort of make parts for
trains and stuff. So he really helped the area and
gave people lots of jobs. But there's like, I don't
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know even if this is true history, but this is
what we were taught at primary school. There was George
Stevenson and Timothy Hackworth and they both entered a competition
to see who could build a steam train to carry stuff.
And Timothy Hackworth lost and that's the school I went to, the
loser one. Sign of things to come! . Oh, here it
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is to the right.
Alex Legouix (10:20):
Oh, so what was little Scarlet like?
Scarlett Moffatt (10:24):
Oh, she could eat an apple through a letter box.
She had a proper monobrow. Do you know? Primary school
was really... I found I loved primary. Secondary was where
it was hard for me, but I've got nothing but
sort of fond memories of primary school.
Alex Legouix (10:42):
Yeah, that's good. If I'd been a fly on the
wall when you were at primary school, what would you
have been like?
Scarlett Moffatt (10:48):
Just a proper geek.
Alex Legouix (10:50):
Really?
Scarlett Moffatt (10:50):
I was such... Yeah, like a proper geek. I loved just learning
about just anything. I would do extra homework. I once
remember in year six I was learning about... This is how boring
I was. It shows I didn't have many friends, about
farm diversification. And I wrote, my mom still got it, a 60-
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page sort of just booklet. It had a contents page,
a glossary and everything. No one asked me to do it.
That's how I chose to spend my time as an 11- year- old. That
was where I got my kicks.
Alex Legouix (11:27):
Wow. Yeah, that's cute.
Scarlett Moffatt (11:29):
And then at the back there was a huge field
and it was always nice. So on a sunny day
they opened the gates for the field and we would
all play things like bulldog, until it got banned. It
always ends up getting banned. Stick in the mud. Did
you ever play kiss, cuddle, or chase?
Alex Legouix (11:50):
Oh yeah. I mean, I think it was just kiss, chase. I
think we avoided... I didn't bother with the cuddles or
the... I went straight in there.
Scarlett Moffatt (11:58):
He used to love kiss, cuddle, chase. He used to
love all that sort of stuff.
Alex Legouix (12:02):
Yeah, me too. You call yourself a geek. So were you
quite shy or not? Were you quite chatty then ?
Scarlett Moffatt (12:09):
I wasn't shy, but from an early age realised that
my interests were a lot different to my friends. So
I think it comes from my dad. Me and my dad are
really close. And when I was from the age of five,
we would go metal detecting and we would... Yeah, we
would go and do civil war reenactments where we would
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get to dress up and go to Winchester Fort and
dress as Romans. And he was really into aliens.
Alex Legouix (12:37):
Oh, so that's where your alien love and conspiracy theory
passion came from.
Scarlett Moffatt (12:42):
So I would come into school and start... Me and my dad
would take a notepad and we'd take our Labrador, Glen
for a walk just at Dabble Duck Industrial Estate actually,
down the road. And we would just... I'd go into
school and I'd be like, I've seen a crop circle.
Alex Legouix (12:56):
No.
Scarlett Moffatt (12:56):
And obviously kids were like... You know what I mean? Because a lot of
my friends went to the scouts and stuff like that and the brownies,
whereas I was out metal detecting and dressed like a Roman.
Alex Legouix (13:08):
I love that. Did you ever find anything quite exciting?
Scarlett Moffatt (13:11):
Oh, we did actually find once, but you have to
hand them back in. We found a coin from the
16th century, which I remember, I think we spoke about
that for a year. Everyone we met, we'd be like,
we found this coin.
Alex Legouix (13:28):
Oh my gosh.
Scarlett Moffatt (13:28):
It was really... Yeah, it was a big thing. I remember that
being a big moment in my life, but a lot
of the times we just found buttons.
Alex Legouix (13:37):
Just stuff. Oh, I really like the idea of finding something really,
really random.
Scarlett Moffatt (13:43):
Oh, I'd love that. Imagine. I mean, just to find
something that was worth actual dollar.
Alex Legouix (13:49):
And not having to give it back as well.
Scarlett Moffatt (13:51):
Rather than just tins of fosters and buttons, which is
what we found most of the time. But I think it was just spending time
with my dad that I enjoyed to be fair. It was just fun. Oh, I love that
we've got the primary school because I drive past it
all the time, but I never really think about it.
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You know what I mean? So it's quite nice to
have a little stuff and remember it. I remember, I'm
still friends with... So my best friend at primary was
called Rosie, and every Friday we used to go to her
house and her dad used to make us pancakes and he'd
have rhubarb in his garden and he'd give us a cup
of sugar and some sticks of rhubarb. And then we'd
eat that. Obviously we'd be buzzing because we'd that much
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sugar and then make dance routines up to steps.
Alex Legouix (14:39):
Oh, so you're still friends with Rosie now?
Scarlett Moffatt (14:39):
Yeah.
Alex Legouix (14:42):
That's nice.
Scarlett Moffatt (14:42):
Yeah, it's really nice. And Sarah, who I was good
friends with at primary. I mean I'm godmother to her
children now, and we lived together at university.
Alex Legouix (14:54):
So has it changed your school or does it look
exactly the same?
Scarlett Moffatt (14:58):
Do you know what? Looks exactly the same. I remember that little shelter thing used to be
where you put your bikes, but then they changed it
and we all had to have a vote. It was my first
little dabble in politics of having a vote and it
was either going to be made into a quiet area
or it was going to be made in... Where it
was going to have little swings and stuff. And apparently
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everyone voted for it to be a quiet area. And that's
when I learned politics could be rigged because there's no way.
Alex Legouix (15:27):
Yeah, there's no way.
Scarlett Moffatt (15:27):
A bunch of 8 to 11 year olds went, no, we don't want swings.
To tell you what, we'll have a quiet area.
Alex Legouix (15:33):
That's so true.
Scarlett Moffatt (15:34):
I don't know anybody that voted for it, but Timothy Hackworth,
they say that it was all fair. But I actually
trained to be a primary school teacher. That's what I
did at university. So I feel like actually that's... I
owe that school a lot because if I didn't go
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on to do primary school teaching at university, I wouldn't
be sat here now because I met my friend Tommy
at uni who gave us the opportunity to go on Gogglebox.
Alex Legouix (16:06):
Yes. Okay.
Scarlett Moffatt (16:06):
Because that was a total sort of fluke that he rang us
one day and was like, you know loads of people,
I've got this job where I'm casting people for a
show where you watch the telly. I was like, oh
my word. They'll make shows about anything. People watching the
telly. We're going to be watching people watching the telly.
And I couldn't find anyone. Everyone was like, no, I
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don't want to do it. So he was like, can
you and your family just audition? And I was like,
well no, because we don't want to be on the
telly. And they were like, yeah, that's fine. You won't be like, it'll just
be all in house. No one will ever see it.
Alex Legouix (16:41):
No.
Scarlett Moffatt (16:42):
And then they came to the house and they showed us
little clips of the telly and then they showed us
cards of people, of celebrities and we had to talk about
them. And that was on a Saturday. And then on
the Monday we got a phone call saying, yeah, you're
on the show. Can you film tomorrow?
Alex Legouix (16:59):
No.
Scarlett Moffatt (16:59):
And then it was my dad that persuaded me and my mom, because we've got 50
quid in the free takeaway. So we were like, why not?
Alex Legouix (17:05):
Brilliant. That's such a sliding doors' moment.
Scarlett Moffatt (17:09):
It really is. I think I would just still be
enjoying life as a primary school teacher. Probably still have
ended up with Scott. I don't know if too much
would've changed.
Alex Legouix (17:22):
What takeaway did you choose?
Scarlett Moffatt (17:23):
Oh, we used to get fish and chips, Dominoes, chicken
kebabs, the lot. But one of my... And I really want to try
and recreate this with our little boy when he is
born, one of my favorite memories from being a kid
is my dad used to hide behind the bathroom door.
And my mom would be in the bathroom and she'd
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be like, come quick, Scarlet, come quick. And he would
pretend to have fell down the plug hole. And he
used to do a squeaky voice and he used to
be like, help, help I'm down the plug hole. And so
I'd have to go and search of things that we
could try and dangle down the plug hole. And then
he'd just stand in the bath and my mom would
be like, oh, don't worry, I've pulled him out. And I'd
be like, oh dad, you really? I was worried there. I thought
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you were a goner.
Alex Legouix (18:07):
Oh my God, that's amazing.
Scarlett Moffatt (18:11):
Oh, so this is my dance school.
Alex Legouix (18:13):
Yes.
Scarlett Moffatt (18:14):
So the studio...
Alex Legouix (18:16):
Dianne White Academy of Dance. Is that what it was
when you were young as well?
Scarlett Moffatt (18:19):
Yeah, it was.
Alex Legouix (18:21):
So when were you here?
Scarlett Moffatt (18:22):
So I first came here when I was four years old and then until
I was 17. And just ballroom and Latin dancing. But
it was such a... This is where I sort of
learned a bit of confidence in being a little bit
of a geeky kid because as well, Strictly wasn't on,
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ballroom and Latin was sort of an old fogey dance,
but I just absolutely fell in love with it. And this
is where... This was my escape, really. My social side
of life. Oh, I just love cha-cha-cha and walzing and
it was just so fun.
Alex Legouix (19:04):
We're just looking at the front entrance of the studio
and actually it says the studio, doesn't it? It's got
this sort of old school plaque and it says line
dancing, salsa club, old time, ballroom sequence and Latin.
Scarlett Moffatt (19:20):
Oh, look at it. Oh, so many memories.
Alex Legouix (19:24):
Yeah. How much do you think that those years shaped you?
Scarlett Moffatt (19:29):
Oh, I think they must have... I don't think I
would've dared done TV if I hadn't have done dancing.
Because it's sort of like you're still you, but you're sort
of like you... Like an alter ego, I suppose. You
can be like, oh well it's fine because this is
dancing version me. And I think I bring a bit
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of my dancing version me in TV, like a bit
of jazz hands and the...
Alex Legouix (19:56):
Heightened version.
Scarlett Moffatt (19:56):
Yeh, definitely.
Alex Legouix (19:57):
The Borocca version of you.
Scarlett Moffatt (19:58):
Yeah, the Borocca version. Yeah, Boorocca Scarlett.
Alex Legouix (20:01):
Yeah, that's so true.
Scarlett Moffatt (20:02):
Oh, that brings so many memories. I want my little boy to dance. I really do.
Alex Legouix (20:04):
That's nice.
Scarlett Moffatt (20:04):
I want him to learn... How do we put... This is my dance teacher.
Alex Legouix (20:11):
Oh wait, wait.
Scarlett Moffatt (20:12):
Hello. Are you all right?
Dianne (20:17):
Hello my darling. How are you?
Scarlett Moffatt (20:18):
Yeah, really good. Thank you. We're just talking about old
times at the dancing. Oh, so many amazing ones. So Dianne,
who was my dance teacher, is actually my little sister's
godmother as well. So it's just...
Dianne (20:30):
And Scarlet's mom is my son's godmother.
Alex Legouix (20:31):
Wow.
Scarlett Moffatt (20:38):
It was just like we spent all of our time
with each other, didn't we?
Dianne (20:41):
I know. We did.
Scarlett Moffatt (20:42):
It was so lovely. It's really nice. Well we've just
been to seem the primary school, Timothy Hackworth. We're just going on a little bit of a
road trip down memory lane.
Dianne (20:53):
I'm off to ASDA! .
Alex Legouix (20:53):
How much has Scarlett changed in your eyes?
Dianne (20:57):
She hasn't.
Alex Legouix (20:57):
She hasn't. Amazing. What you see is what you get.
Scarlett Moffatt (21:01):
I think you definitely brought our confidence in us because
I remember...
Dianne (21:05):
She used to walk in and the head was down like this.
Alex Legouix (21:07):
Oh, really?
Scarlett Moffatt (21:07):
Yeah, I don't know. Something just clicked in us one day and I
just realied like, oh, you can just do...
Dianne (21:15):
Can do this.
Scarlett Moffatt (21:16):
Well I'll let you go then. Give us a kiss. Love you, see you later. Her number plate even says
1, 2, 3 cha like cha-cha-cha.
Alex Legouix (21:28):
I love that. That's so nice to hear as well
that you really... And they really saw a difference in
your confidence.
Scarlett Moffatt (21:37):
Yeah, that's why I think I just encourage anyone with
little ones to just have a hobby. Yeah, dance was life.
Alex Legouix (21:47):
Completely.
Scarlett Moffatt (21:49):
And it had two major competitions a year. And you
would just... At Blackpool at Winter Gardens and then at Blackpool
Tower. And your whole year would just be training for
them dance competitions. And my best friend Sarah, she used
to live just at the end of this street here,
opposite the primary school, which was very handy. Yeah, very
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handy having a friend who lived opposite the school.
Alex Legouix (22:14):
So that took you up to... Where were you there
then? What was that? Up until 11?
Scarlett Moffatt (22:19):
11. Yeah.
Alex Legouix (22:21):
And then I guess you went to senior school.
Scarlett Moffatt (22:23):
Yes.
Alex Legouix (22:23):
Was that close to here?
Scarlett Moffatt (22:25):
Yeah, it was actually. Well it's sort of there, but
it's got a different name now. It was sort of... How do I... OFSTED
didn't like the school, it was one of them ones. But I do
think as well, if you want to learn, you will
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even if things aren't as easy. I think was really
lucky and privileged that I had a family that really sort of
helped me do well and stuff. And I'm aware that
not everyone sort of has that. So that's why schools
are really important and why they should be well funded.
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Because if you don't have a good support network, that's
the only place that you've got opportunity to try and
do well. Whereas it wasn't the first secondary school really.
Alex Legouix (23:21):
And how was that? I know that there was one
school that you left. Was it that one?
Scarlett Moffatt (23:26):
No, I actually left a good school to go to that
school, but I was just so badly bullied and it was
sort of like a last resort really. I didn't really
want to. And at the time I felt like, oh, I'm leaving
secondary school and am I doing the right thing? Am I quitting?
But I think sometimes, and as I've grown up, I've
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realized that actually sometimes the best thing to do is
walk away. It doesn't mean that you're a weak person.
Sometimes that can be the hardest thing actually is to
start again, whether that's schools or relationships or anything. Sometimes
that can be the really sort of hard defining moments
in your life. But I felt like I made the right decision
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for me because then I went on and sort of
really enjoyed secondary school. Really enjoyed learning, made friends for life.
Alex Legouix (24:19):
Yeah, that's really good.
Scarlett Moffatt (24:20):
So yeah, I felt like I did the right thing. My dad used to
always say that bullies are like sandpaper. The more they
wear you down, the more polished you become.
Alex Legouix (24:30):
Oh, that's such... That's great.
Scarlett Moffatt (24:30):
And I think that's really, really true.
Alex Legouix (24:31):
That needs to be on a t- shirt.
Scarlett Moffatt (24:35):
We could start an Etsy shop and sell those.
Alex Legouix (24:37):
Let's do it. Let's do it right now from our Rover 25.
Scarlett Moffatt (24:41):
I still love that. We're in a Rover 25. I love it.
Alex Legouix (24:52):
You were obviously really close to your dad, he's come
up a lot in your conversation. What was your family
atmosphere like as a child?
Scarlett Moffatt (24:59):
Just so much fun. I've got a really young family and
it's only as I've gotten older, I've realized just how
young in comparison to my friends that my family are so...
My nan is actually only 68.
Alex Legouix (25:12):
Oh wow.
Scarlett Moffatt (25:12):
So she had my mom, she'd just turned 16. My
mom had me when she'd just turned 19 and my
dad was 22. So I remember being at my mom's
30th birthday, which is crazy now. But that felt really sort of the
norm for me. But I think in doing that we
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sort of weirdly grew up together, for me, my mom and dad.
And even though they are very parenty, as in they've
always got their advice and things, I feel really lucky
that they are my best pals. And I just love spending time... Honestly,
we just have this weird sense of humoor that not
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a lot of other... Even Scott now, even though Scott
and me have been together five years and we always
do everything together. Sometimes they'll just go, I just don't
understand what you are laughing at. And I'm like, maybe it's
just a Moffatt thing. Maybe you just have to be in our
family and a bit warped to get our sense of humor.
Alex Legouix (26:11):
That's so nice. And I love the fact that obviously
really came across on Gogglebox.
Scarlett Moffatt (26:20):
Oh, thanks.
Alex Legouix (26:21):
And are we near your house then?
Scarlett Moffatt (26:23):
Yeah.
Alex Legouix (26:24):
Your old house or current?
Scarlett Moffatt (26:25):
Old house. So it's just at the top. Yeah, this
was my old house. So this was this second house
I ever lived in.
Alex Legouix (26:33):
Wow. So from what age did you say?
Scarlett Moffatt (26:35):
So 11. Or third house actually because when I was a baby
I lived in Bishop Aukland as well. There it is.
Alex Legouix (26:42):
What number?
Scarlett Moffatt (26:44):
36. Oh, so that was the Gogglebox house.
Alex Legouix (26:47):
No.
Scarlett Moffatt (26:48):
Yeah. So they used to zone in on the front
and be "T he Moffatt family". And that was the front
room that we used to film in.
Alex Legouix (27:02):
I feel like it needs more singing and dancing.
Scarlett Moffatt (27:04):
Should have a little Gogglebox plaque on , shouldn't it?
Alex Legouix (27:07):
Yeah, I agree.
Scarlett Moffatt (27:08):
Well we haven't filmed now for 7 years.
Alex Legouix (27:14):
Does it feel like that long?
Scarlett Moffatt (27:15):
No. And you know what? I think because they play sort of
repeats all the time, still people come up and talk
about Gogglebox and I'm like, how's your mom and dad? And I'm
like, yeah, they're really good now. I think they still think I live
with my mom and dad. I'm like, no, we haven't
filmed for seven years. But I've got a lot... I owe a lot to
Gogglebox actually. It really did change sort of the course of
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my life. But this was such a fun street to
grow up in. A couple of doors up was my
friend Craig. And we used to, whenever it was sunny,
have proper sort of water fights and it was just really...
Alex Legouix (27:50):
Does he still live there?
Scarlett Moffatt (27:51):
He doesn't actually. We all sort of moved at the same time. But
yeah, it was just such a lovely, lovely street to
live in.
Alex Legouix (27:59):
Was there a dramatic change when you started Gogglebox in
your world? Or was it...
Scarlett Moffatt (28:05):
Not straight away. I would say actually that it was
the same. I was working as a primary school teacher,
then I started working for the DSA, which is sort of for
disabled or SEN children that go to university or higher education.
And I started working there, would get on the bus
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to go to work or my friend Ivo, at the end
of the month when I didn't have enough money for
the bus tickets, Ivo would pick us up, which I'm
always grateful for. And no, people sometimes chat at work about it. They'd be like, oh,
I watched you on that show. And then Gogglebox sort
of changed to being on just before Alan Carr's Chatty
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Man on a Friday. And that's when all of a sudden
it was just walking into a brick wall of this...
Everything's changed. I just remember walking through ASDA to go to
the bus stop and missing my bus because loads of
people were coming over asking for photos because then social
media started becoming a bit more of a thing then.
Alex Legouix (29:08):
So how long had you been on Gogglebox then, by
this point?
Scarlett Moffatt (29:12):
Two years. Yeah, two years. And then people would be
wanting to chat and stuff like that and then just
felt different.
Alex Legouix (29:23):
Nice different?
Scarlett Moffatt (29:25):
I wish I'd been prepared a bit more, but I
think for sort of a 23 year old I was like,
this is a bit much. I don't know how to
sort of handle it. But then I got offered to
go on I'm a Celebrity and I turned it down
the first time.
Alex Legouix (29:45):
Oh, did you?
Scarlett Moffatt (29:45):
Yeah, because I was just like, God, I just watch the telly.
No one's going to know who I am and stuff. And then I
got asked the year after and that's when I said,
yeah. I love the show. I'd be silly not to do it.
Alex Legouix (29:57):
How obvious is it when you are on the set in
the camp, how obvious is it that it's an actual
set? Are there boom operators? Are there lights?
Scarlett Moffatt (30:09):
No. So actually I feel like I'm a Celebrity is
one of those shows where it's just got it so right.
You literally feel... From the moment that you sort of
taken to wherever it is you're going, you've given blindfolds,
you put head muff things on so you can't hear anything.
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Then you meet your camp mates and then you're just driven...
You drive around for ages in the back of a van,
not knowing where you are. You get into camp, you
feel miles away from anywhere. And after I actually, when
I did the extra camp show for a couple of
years after I realized you're not that far away from
McDonald's and stuff, but it really feels like you are.
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But everything's hidden. You can't see any cameras. Even when
you go and do trials and there's cameramen, they're not
allowed to talk to you and they have stickers over the watches,
so you don't even know what time it is. So
you do really feel like I am stuck in the
middle of a jungle.
Alex Legouix (31:11):
That's so good.
Scarlett Moffatt (31:12):
But then it meant deciding whether to give up Gogglebox or
not. So it was a really big decision because we loved doing
it as a family. But my mom and dad always
said that they would never sort of just do it
them two. They were like, oh, that's our stint on
telly over. You know what I mean?
Alex Legouix (31:33):
And had life changed for them as well?
Scarlett Moffatt (31:40):
No, not as much. I was always a bit envious of that actually
at the beginning.
Alex Legouix (31:44):
Really?
Scarlett Moffatt (31:44):
Yeah, because I was like... Yeah, I don't know if it's because they
were older, but it just always felt like something to
chat about to their friends rather than getting asked for
selfies and stuff. I remember ordering a pizza and getting
papped, getting the pizza from the door and that being
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on the front page of the Sun. And I always
remember thinking, God, I live such a boring life and
yet people seem to want to know about it. And I think that's why
I couldn't get my head around. I think it was
more actually internally that I sort of suffered from imposter
syndrome. I think lots of nice things were happening for
me and because to me, I'm just every other one...
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Everyone be like, oh... The people say I was funny
and stuff. And I'd be like, but I'm no funnier than
all my friends. It's genuinely just another thing I just
happened to be on show that showcases that, but I
think I got imposter syndrome. I think I would worry, oh,
I'm going to get found out. And they're all going
to find out that actually I'm just really boring. I
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think that's what it was. So I think maybe, I
don't know, just someone else who was in the industry
to talk about with. Yeah, I think that would've really helped me.
Alex Legouix (33:03):
Most people, I guess stereotypically would've just had a " normal"
life before something like this happened. But it doesn't sound
like you did.
Scarlett Moffatt (33:11):
I mean, I still feel like I had a really sort of
lucky upbringing. I feel like a few things happened. My
dad got cancer, but it was sort of wrapped around
his spine, so they didn't know if they operated that he
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would make it. And that was over Christmas and I
remember that being really hard. And he actually came home
on Christmas Eve and he was my best friend. So I
feel like that happened. And then because of that happening,
I then developed ticks and got Bell's palsy. Lots of
stuff happened within a year. So that happened. And then
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I was in a bike accident where I smashed all
my front teeth. So that sort of all happened while getting
bullied. Not like a sob story or anything, but just
lot happened in a short space of time that I
think I never really sort of... I just sort of got
on with it because I just wanted all them feelings
to go away. I think when I started seeing that
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people had opinions of me online and the press and
stuff and never read the Daily Mail comments because they're
never very nice. But no one warned me about that.
I think those memories came back and all of a sudden
I felt like I was being bullied again and that actually
what they were saying was right. And I didn't deserve
all these wonderful things happening to me. I should have
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been on top of the world, but really I was
just like, oh, what is happening? This is so scary. But I
didn't want to tell anyone. I didn't want to be
a burden and be like, I'm actually really finding this
hard because everyone was so proud of me that I felt
like I couldn't let them down. So I had to just pretend
I was super happy. And it was actually the Samaritans
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charity that really helped us. And I remember sort of
going to ring them a few times and putting the
phone down and not knowing what to say and then
just talking to this lovely woman on the phone. And
it just genuinely really helped. And that's why if a
couple of years later, once I was all sorted, because
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that gave us the motivation I needed to tell my
family how I was feeling and then get help of actually
going to my GP that then I messaged Samaritans on
Instagram. I was like, if there's any way I can
ever help you, please let me know. And then I
became an ambassador for Samaritans, which was really lovely.
Alex Legouix (35:42):
That's amazing.
Scarlett Moffatt (35:42):
Because I felt like it went really full circle. And I
really hope that people... Even though mine's a bit unique,
I think we've all at some point felt a little
bit lost or a little bit lonely or a bit
of imposter syndrome that it can get better. You're not
always going to feel in a place where it feels
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like you can't quite climb out of that hole. So no, I
feel like yes, Samaritan's I owe a lot too.
Alex Legouix (36:14):
I feel like you really haven't lost sight of the giving
back side of your world.
Scarlett Moffatt (36:22):
I think, to be honest with you, because a lot
of people always... To me, the worst critique I've ever
get is that like, oh, you're different to what you
come across or do you know what I mean? Or
if all of a sudden my mum and dad start being like, oh, you're getting
a bit big for your boots, I would hate that. So
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I just try and not be an a- hole. I
think it's a pretty easy way. I think it's hard
to live in your life being angry in that all
the time and not... I don't know, I just feel like that would
be more exhausting than actually just trying to enjoy every day
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and stuff.
Alex Legouix (37:07):
But you do seem to still be really grateful for
it, which I would imagine that's quite easy to lose
sight of.
Scarlett Moffatt (37:15):
Oh, I just feel like... Well sometimes, especially being pregnant
and hormonal, sometimes I do sort of walk around my
house and just think, I can't believe that this is
where I live or this is my job. And I hope
that never goes, I hope, I always feel really lucky. I
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constantly feel like a competition winner. I genuinely do feel like
I've won at life.
Alex Legouix (37:45):
Yeah, that's really nice.
Scarlett Moffatt (37:45):
I do really feel like that. Yeah, like I said, I hope that never ever goes. Even when
I do shows like, I don't know, Blankety Blank and I'm like, as
if I'm doing Blankety Blank.
Alex Legouix (37:57):
And you're about to become a mother. So all of
those messages that you would want to give your younger
self, you have the opportunity to tell your younger self
because he's about to pop out.
Scarlett Moffatt (38:11):
Yeah, I'm so excited to be a mum. I never
ever knew if it would be on the cards. Honestly,
when me and Scott found out that I was pregnant, I
don't think I've ever been so shocked in my life.
Alex Legouix (38:25):
Really? And so went through your mind?
Scarlett Moffatt (38:29):
Just pure joy actually, which is when I realized, oh,
I must really want to be a mum. Because there was
not one sort of moment where I was like, oh. I was
just like, oh, we're going to have a baby. And
weirdly I just sort of knew. We went on holiday
and I was like, oh, I just don't really want to
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drink or anything. I just feel a bit different. And
then I ordered... When we got back, I ordered pregnancy
tests off Amazon. Scott opened the package and he was like, what are these? And I
was like, they're pregnancy tests. He was like, why? And
I was like, I don't know. I just have a feeling. And it's so weird, isn't it? When I told
my mum that, she was like, no. I was honestly, mum.
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I was like, I felt like I was pregnant.
Alex Legouix (39:14):
Yeah, absolutely. And also you've got a really open mind. The
fact that you are really interested in the psychic and all those
sorts of things, I think that leaves you open to being
a bit more in tune. Plus you've been through a lot.
Scarlett Moffatt (39:28):
Yes. Scott laughs when I put my crystals out on
a full moon.
Alex Legouix (39:33):
Yeah, me too.
Scarlett Moffatt (39:34):
I'm also like, you need to open your third eye, Scott.
And he's like, I wish you wouldn't say that in
public. I'm like, but you do. You just need to
open your third eye more.
Alex Legouix (39:42):
You're going to charge your crystals darling. It's full moon.
Scarlett Moffatt (39:46):
He wants them... You know like the ring doorbells thing...
He rang us as it was half midnight and he was like, what are you
doing in the garden? I was like, it's a harvest
moon, Scott, I'm manifesting. He was like, geez Louise. Because
he was at work, he was like, I keep getting
the garden sensors are going off. He was like, what you doing? I was like, I'm
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just thinking about things that I want to happen.
Alex Legouix (40:14):
I'm right there with you.
Scarlett Moffatt (40:14):
Yeah, I think you're either all in or there's no
in between. You can't be like, oh yeah, I sort of
believe in manifesting. You're either all in or you just don't get it at all.
Alex Legouix (40:26):
But that's interesting because you didn't manifest your Gogglebox journey.
Scarlett Moffatt (40:31):
No.
Alex Legouix (40:33):
But would that have been a fate thing or what
was that?
Scarlett Moffatt (40:37):
Maybe. Yeah, actually. After I started on Gogglebox, I did start
writing a book in the hope that one day I
would get a book published and on it I had
my top three dream jobs and one was to be
Ant and Dec's sidekick, which sort of came true on
Saturday Night Takeaway. And another one was to be a radio presenter,
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which I went on to do for Capital Northeast. And
then the other one was to become Queen of the
Jungle, and I did.
Alex Legouix (41:07):
Wow.
Scarlett Moffatt (41:08):
So I do feel like I sort of... And that
was before I knew about manifesting.
Alex Legouix (41:13):
That's amazing, isn't it?
Scarlett Moffatt (41:15):
I also put on chocolate taster, which hasn't happened yet actually.
Alex Legouix (41:18):
But it still can.
Scarlett Moffatt (41:18):
One day. I'm still waiting for that one to come
true. So my nanny just lives up there.
Alex Legouix (41:26):
Your nan?
Scarlett Moffatt (41:26):
Yeah, literally that house there. My little nan and my granda.
Alex Legouix (41:30):
What's her name?
Scarlett Moffatt (41:32):
So they're called Christine and Tommy Smiles.
Alex Legouix (41:36):
Hi Christine and Tommy. Mr. and Mrs. Smiles.
Scarlett Moffatt (41:37):
Mr. and Mrs. Smiles.
Alex Legouix (41:39):
I love that. Who live in fairytale land. You are a real
advocate for empowering women, aren't you?
Scarlett Moffatt (41:51):
Thanks. I try to. I think there's a fine line.
I just feel like we get such a hard time without being
like, oh, what is us? What is women? I do feel like we have it really hard in
every aspect of our life. And I think the sooner
you realise that you can never win to everyone else
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and you've got to just accept yourself, I think that life becomes
a lot more peaceful.
Alex Legouix (42:19):
Is there a lot of pressure that comes with that role
model sense?
Scarlett Moffatt (42:24):
I think for me, I find it good pressure because
I think it makes us actually not overthink, but I do
think, am I showing my real self here rather than
a polished version all the time.
Alex Legouix (42:39):
And also just thinking, reflecting back on how you were
talking about when the stuff that you were going through when
you were 11, 12, how much harder that would've been if you'd
had social media on top?
Scarlett Moffatt (42:51):
Oh, I can't even imagine that. I grew up going metal detecting, building
forts, being outside playing. My whole life wasn't just tech.
Whereas obviously with my little sister, having a 16 year age gap
between us, I can see how much it sort of
dominates just her and her friend's lives.
Alex Legouix (43:11):
Do you give her advice?
Scarlett Moffatt (43:14):
I mean, she often gives me advice. She's switched on
it. Ava is unapologetically herself. And I'd like to think
a bit of that comes from me and my mom and dad.
But yeah, she's like... When I was a kid I
tried to fit in, whereas Ava's just not bothered. She's
got her friends and they're all very different and she's
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just like, well, why would I want to pretend to
be someone else? Because then they're don't really like us
anyway. And I'm like, yes, but it's took me a
long time to figure that out. You've figured it out
at such a young age. I'm very envious.
Alex Legouix (43:48):
Yeah, that's good. You have a lot of trans and drag
friends, don't you?
Scarlett Moffatt (43:53):
Yes. Try and be a massive ally for the LGBTQ+
community. My little sister's gay. She came out to us
last year, which was really lovely that she felt like...
She'd just turned 16, that she could share that and
know. And my dad said the perfect thing. He just
went... Because she sort of sat us all down in
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this really formal way, which is not my little sister
at all. I think we all started really panicking of
what she was going to tell us. And as soon
as she just said, oh I'm gay. My dad was
like, oh, is that it? I thought it was going to be something bad. And
I was like, oh dad, you couldn't have said a
more perfect thing there.
Alex Legouix (44:33):
That's so true.
Scarlett Moffatt (44:34):
I think she just instantly felt relieved. But yeah, all...
My best friends are all drag queens. Miss Testicle.
Alex Legouix (44:42):
Miss Testicle. That's amazing.
Scarlett Moffatt (44:45):
Miss Emma Roids.
Alex Legouix (44:45):
Oh, I love it.
Scarlett Moffatt (44:48):
Miss Cara and Gucci Gabor .
Alex Legouix (44:51):
God, I'm jealous that I don't have a drag name.
Scarlett Moffatt (44:55):
Oh, what would your drag...
Alex Legouix (44:58):
I need one.
Scarlett Moffatt (44:58):
See I always thought mine would be Donna Kebab, because I feel like I
quite look like a Donna. And then to add... Yeah,
Donna Kebab. She's like little bit trashy, little bit classy,
depending on what time of the night it is. Yours could be like...
Because you sort into cars and traveling all that. Yours could
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be Miss Caravan. Like Caravan. Caravan. Miss Caravan and Donna
Kebab on tour .
Alex Legouix (45:26):
Yeah, there you go. Out out.
Scarlett Moffatt (45:27):
I like that, out out.
Alex Legouix (45:28):
And our theme is?
Scarlett Moffatt (45:30):
Oh, we have to have a theme. We have to
always have a theme.
Alex Legouix (45:34):
Aliens and unicorns.
Scarlett Moffatt (45:37):
Oh yeah, love a unicorn.
Alex Legouix (45:38):
Do they exist?
Scarlett Moffatt (45:42):
I like to think they did at one point. There's no way someone... I
think they're just really thin rhinos. Do you know what I mean? Someone just saw a really thin rhino
and I think we'll call that a unicorn. I'd love them to be real. I
just think what is a world without a bit of
magic and a bit of mystique?
Alex Legouix (46:05):
So presumably this area, you know well?
Scarlett Moffatt (46:09):
Yes. So this area I know well. One because my
mom and dad just live on that street up there.
And secondly, it's got the best fish and chip shop
in the world. There it is, just up there. But opposite
there is the hospital that I was born at and then just
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on this side of the street is the church that I
was christened at. Everything's so close together. Going on this
trip has made me realize how dinky County Durham is.
It's only tiny.
Alex Legouix (46:46):
I love the fact that where we are right now
as well, you've got children playing outside the house.
Scarlett Moffatt (46:51):
Yeah, it's still a big thing up here. I used
to love playing out as a kid.
Alex Legouix (46:58):
Yeah, me too.
Scarlett Moffatt (46:59):
You used to build forts all the time. Loads of forts. Here it is, Beadles! You see
the little fish sign outside? Brings me so much joy
when I can see that little fish.
Alex Legouix (47:14):
What's it like inside?
Scarlett Moffatt (47:16):
It's only dinky but it's just beautiful. It's such a
beautiful fish and chip shop. As a kid, when I
lived at Shildon, we lived opposite a chip shop called
Betty's Fish Shop. And we used to literally go in
and just ask for a bag of scraps. I think back now, it's
literally batter. We literally just eaten batter.
Alex Legouix (47:38):
It's just the best there.
Scarlett Moffatt (47:39):
But it was so nice. And then for ten pence you would get
a massive, and I mean either a massive pickled onion or
a massive pickled egg. We're all just running around stinking, really.
Alex Legouix (47:50):
That's nice.
Scarlett Moffatt (47:52):
Making forts, playing out, eating pickled onions and pickled eggs.
Lived the dream. I hope that you've liked County Durham.
Alex Legouix (48:01):
I absolutely love it.
Scarlett Moffatt (48:04):
I feel like sometimes in the media, the N ortheast is
really portrayed in a bad way.
Alex Legouix (48:12):
No, not at...
Scarlett Moffatt (48:12):
And that's why I really wanted... When I did Scarlet's
Driving School, I really wanted to shine a light on
the people and the scenery and what we had to offer.
Because often it's just when you are on the telly up north,
it's just police intercepters . So it's like crime stuff or
it's like people on benefits and it's like... It's not even...
(48:36):
There's just such a sense of community and it's such
a wonderful place to live that we're so much more
than that. So any opportunity I can where I get to
talk about the North.
Alex Legouix (48:45):
How has it been taking a trip around your home?
Scarlett Moffatt (48:50):
Hey, look at the car we in. It's unbelievable. Yeah, I felt
17 again sitting in this car and it is really
crazy sort of being in this car as a woman
now with a baby from Scott when he used to
pick me up in this with a bit of MCing in the
background. So yeah, I thought I was going to cry when I first sat in.
I was like, oh, this feels amazing. But no, it's been lovely
(49:13):
showing you around.
Alex Legouix (49:14):
Thank you.
Scarlett Moffatt (49:15):
No, thank you. I still can't believe you've found this car.
Alex Legouix (49:19):
It's great, isn't it?
Scarlett Moffatt (49:20):
It's insane. It's absolutely insane.
Alex Legouix (49:23):
Enjoy your amazing, spectacular chip sensation.
Scarlett Moffatt (49:29):
Thank you. I will.
Alex Legouix (49:35):
Thanks so much to Scarlett Moffatt for showing me around her beautiful town of Bishop Auckland
and enlightening me on some of the local delicacies. You
can see exclusive footage of the drive by heading to
the Auto Trader socials. Look at the episode page for links.
You'll also be able to see the Rover 25 that
truly took Scarlett back to her teenage years. And if
(49:58):
you're looking for a new vehicle, you can find your
perfect match at autotrader. co. uk.
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