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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I always wanted to go to Tennessee, but I knew
my tempher of y'all was like, yeah, you probably not
going into bed Tennessee. Kid Like, it was just like
I didn't really sell myself dreams to be disappointed. I
would just rule myself to say, like, Colorado is where
you're gonna be, then make the best out of Colorado.
Don't dwell on the fact that you didn't end up
at Tennessee, because I feel like if I would have
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dwelled on that simple fact, then I wouldn't be who
I am today, or I wouldn't have taken a moment
that Colorado has been for me and invested and got
the most out of it that I have. So I
think early on just being ruled myself to like, yeah,
your dreams are your dreams, But at the same time,
can you still make your dreams of reality even with
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the opportunities that are pregentted to you.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Welcome back to sometimes. I hope today we've got a
true veteran superstar on the pod Quick Humble Brag. She
led Colorado to an epic Sweet sixteen round last year.
Recently hit her career high thirty four points against Utah,
collecting player of the Week accolades left and right this season,
not to mention, all while working on her second master's degree,
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none other than Jalen Sharad. Thanks for happing on the pod.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
No problem, No problem.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I'm so excited to have you here. Before we get started,
I mean, the ultimate finesse. Can we go back to
you getting two master's degrees during your time in Colorado?
What is that about?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Well, when I initially shinned here, I knew I wanted
to leave with the masters. I didn't think that I
would finish my undergrad in three years, and there was
a lot of grind going into that.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I was taking like seven classes a.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Semester at one point, Jesus, But when COVID happened, I
switched to all online and that really worked out for
me just in terms of being able to really focus
in on school and also had surgery going into the
spring of twenty twenty one, I think, I want to say,
so I was able to take a higher level of
classes because I wasn't really focused on ball at that
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point in time.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
So it just all worked out.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
And then last year I finished the Masters in leadership,
and then this year I'm doing one in criminal justice.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I mean, dang, honestly, COVID. COVID was horrible, I know,
but like in terms of school zoom, you could really
knock out like a bunch of units quick. You know.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
It was nice.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, it was nice. I remember at Stanford it was
all like past fail for one quarter and it could
go towards your major. Best believe. I had all my
math classes that quarter. Everything was happening. Yeah, it was wild.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, I had to social psych clash.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, not looking that was the time to take it
for sure, for sure. But diving into current basketball news
right now in the college landscape, you guys started non
conference play with a bank, to say the least. So
you upset LSU and Vegas. Let's talk about it. You
had nineteen points, six assists, not even a close game?
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Was what was the game plan or mindset like going
into play the defending champs.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I feel like anybody who know us know that we're
like we go into those games with a lot of
energy and a lot of like, oh I know, I know,
we go into those games, but it's just a chip
on our shoulders and it was a good opportunity to prove,
like you know, we was bringing everybody back a very
rich and that team who just kind of was left
with a bag taste in our mouth after our Sweet
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Seen lost to Iowa. So it was just a good
opportunity and it was just you know, we walk into
every game just with a fearless mentality, and we knew
on paper we wasn't supposed to win. Weknew on paper
nobody had us winning. So it was just like we
took that and we went into it with just you know,
plan our game, doing what we do, being tough, being aggressive,
and just looking to take it to them.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah. Well, I mean, I know if I'm playing you guys,
y'all have a different type of energy honestly, Like it's
it's unparalleled, and I feel like your Sweet sixteen run
really kind of propelled you guys into the spotlight that
you are now because it's different when you're in the pack.
It's really only Westcasteah to watch the game, and so
they're always like, oh, how good are they? And I
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feel like everybody in the pack respects you guys so
much that now you're getting the national respect that you
guys have deserved for a while. But back into that
LSU game. After the game, you got Shot coming in,
you got Candace coming in. What did they say to
you guys that you know that really resonated with you
heading into the rest of the season.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, I think we were just a surprise to them
more so because, like you said, not a lot of
people really see PAC twelve teams and know what we're
all about. Until March pretty much is when you know
we're finally seen on a national level. So I think
Shat talking to Aaronette was huge just for her confidence,
just for her to like, you know, finally get the
recognition she deserved, because Nettie's always the one that you know,
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she comes in, do it working, Nettie go home like
she just is business and.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Like she never changes her emotions.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
She's very steady, and that's just the type of player
she's always been. So I think that was a real
boost for her confidence. And then Candish coming in just
talking to the team and giving a shout out to
Coach j just really show like all the way we've
been putting in. At first it was just to be good,
but now it's to be one of the best teams
in the country. So I think it just goes to
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show this the work we put in the build that
this program has been through the past couple of years,
and it just meant a lot in terms for the
people who's been here for so long and really been,
you know, pushing and grinding for this to be the
reality of our situation. But we always had like that
underdog mentality of we still got more to prove, So
that was just how we took that game onto the
rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, I mean, speaking of that underdog mentality you has
started preseason rank I believe twenty. You know, is it
difficult too because you've been there through Colorado's ups and
downs and so you've been kind of that pillar that's
kept them going to get them where they are now.
So do you feel like it's kind of hard for
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those younger players coming in? What is that like with
all the differing kind of experience levels in the locker
room of where they've all been, So how is that
for you as leader this season?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
A lot of people talk about our veterans, but don't
realize we brought it in seven new people too, So it
was kind of polar opposites and trying to bridge that
gap between the two was huge, and then we added
two transfers to one from Miszoo and went from Michigan
who had their success to their own programs before coming here.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
So it was just really bridging the gap.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And I think we were very intentional about the things
we did over the summer and the off season to
try to bridge the gap to know, like like I
like I said before, though, we worked so hard to
be good, but now it's time to be great, you know,
And that's I think that's the mentality that we all
had to have and switch between, like we're not going
to sneak up on anybody anymore. We're not going to
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be that team that you know, people go in and
don't really know much about. But at the same time,
like we haven't won any championships, we haven't really asked
our names in history books in terms of bringing the
championship PAC twelve, Natty, whatever the case may be, to
Colorado yet, So I think that's just more so to
drive at this point, because I mean when I came
here it was like eighth, ninth in the pack to
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now being on the top end of things, and it's
just like you still have more to do, you still
have more to accomplish, and I think always being grateful
but not satisfied. It's kind of the mentality that we
had to kind of instill, just not in the newbies,
but us too as veterans, because like I said, we
had grinded so hard to be good, but now it's like,
all right, we are good. You are a good team.
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You got that respect, but now it's not to be great.
What makes you the one percent out of the twenty
that is good? So I think that's the mentality we
just had to take.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
And I mean it's hard to keep that, especially when
you are a top dog. It's like how do you
keep that pressure on yourself that you have to continue
to be top dog? So headed into Pac twelve, this
is your highest ranking so far, and so now you're
a team, but you're target on your back. You talked
about that mindset of balancing still being an underdog while
also teams rises the occasion. So is the conversations about
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you know, having the pact of title is a conversation
about you know, being that top dog, having the underdog mentality.
How does it kind of work? Just like balancing all
the different expectations that you guys haven't really had before.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I would say, for one, it's not really in a sense,
it's not about the future yet. It is just about
being great today. I think coach j does a great
job and preaching is about being one percent better today
and what you're doing your present will pay off in
your future. So I think that's kind of the mentality
that we take. Is not about what happens when we
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get to Vegas. It's about what we do now. But
in overall, from a general perspective, I like I said,
I'm always the underdog. I always take the underdog mentality.
So I don't think preseason we're projected to win. I
don't think you know, anybody really has anybody being UCLA
right now.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And I think the same can be said.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Even the Utah game, like that was a it wasn't
like an outright Colorado's gonna win decisions. So I think
nobody really like knows just how good we are yet,
just because like we got challenges night and night. I mean, look,
I mean Arizona, you know it was a one point
game and so forth and so forth. So I think
it's just all about taking it one day at a
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time and being focused on what your next uponent is,
rather than looking at it from a general perspective, and
I think we all do a pretty good job of
just focusing on what's in front of us. Being a
fifty or two, I took this whole season into I
just want to take every moment for what it is
because I'm doing my last moments at this Like that
was my last time playing at Arizona, that was my
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last time at Arizona stage.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, just really taking a farewell to taking it in
to say like all right, you know, and we had
never swept the Arizonas at their place either, so we're
still doing a lot of first but at the same
time just taking each moment for what it is. Because
we only got Calen Stanford once this season two, so
it's like, all right, this is your last time really
getting to go against them. I mean, you don't know
what happens in March, but just taking it time to time.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, I mean, I think what you said about Utah, right,
they're a great team, but people are like, oh, Colorado's
gonna whoop them just because of how good you guys
are whatever. But I think that's the beauty of the
Pac twelve is there's really no off games. Even when
you play a team like Arizona, who is in top
twenty five right now, that literally does not matter. They're
gonna give you everything that they have. And so I
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think every Pac twelve team is so strong, and I
don't think people get that. Even when you play teams
like Callan State Road had to battle against WSU and Washington.
It's really top to bottom. But with conference play and action,
you guys have started out hot, like you said, sweeping
the Arizonas and Utah thirty four point career high. So
you know it's not easy to get thirty four in Utah.
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So what was was it coming to you where the
shots fallen? You know, you had to take over? What
was that game like?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Honestly, going into that game, we had talked about our
stars because we have been starting off kind of slow
and having to crawl all the way back out of
some games to get to the victory.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
So we just talked about that, and.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I mean, you know me, I say, if I'm not
the most energetic and passionate player on the court, I'm
not doing my job. So I kind of took that
something that I needed to be better at for the team,
and so against you too. I think I just came
out with a lot of high energy and for me,
people talk about the points, but it wasn't like an
offensive like set or things that were just being ran.
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For me, then that's why I was in. Shots were
just falling. It was just out of being aggressive.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I was just pushing the ball. I was just pushing
the pace.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Over the years, you know, you grow and you mature
in your game and know like people are going to
go under you because you're gonna if they go on top,
you're probably gonna blow by them. So then working on
the pull up game, working on my midjor ange game,
stuff like that, just opening game up for me across
the board. So I think more so it was just
attribute a lot of the success in that game to
our energy and just how we came out and specifically
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like I made a complete effort to come out fast,
come out high, come out just with a sense of urgency,
because you get down against Utah, it's very hard to
come back, especially with the offensive powerhouse that they have,
And so I think that was just more so than
mentality of just you know, wanting to come out fast
and put us in the best position to where we
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could weather they're runs, because Utah is gonna go and run.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
It's just what they do. They can come down and
hit you for three straight threes in.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
A row and they're just like, whoa, it's bound to happen.
And it's different people.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I think it's just you know, having that mentality and
knowing like they're gonna do what they do. But at
the end of the day, it's more so about how
we come out and the energy that we.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Set the tone with.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
So I just wanted to set the tone early, and
I think that's what led to a lot of success
throughout that game.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, for sure, I think that you've always been that
player for Colorado to set the tone, not only with
your skill, but like you talked about, the passion and
just the energy that you bring. It's like not only
your teammates gotta match it, but being an opponent of
you for four years, we gotta match it too, Like
we gotta If you're not there, it's not happening. And
so I think what you talked about is really really
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I mean, and you know, Utah, it could be McQueen
hitting the three and then Peely and then yeah, it's
across the board. Whoa, like there's no stopping and all
of a sudden and they're not slowing down. And so
I mean Utah is a great opponent. And then Arizona
was a close game, and like we talked about earlier,
even though they're not top twenty five right now, I
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don't think that takes away from their talent, but also
just they're very well coached and similar to you guys,
I think that they really pride themselves on that energy
that they bring. So I got to watch that game.
It was intense, the yump. You know, what can you
say about Arizona and just the strength of their program
right now? And I feel like people are kind of
overlooking them just because they don't have that ranking and
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they're not the powerhouse that they've been in recent years.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Well, for one, Michelle is a hard hard place to
play in because they have a crowd behind them that
you know, you don't really see a lot of women's basketball,
and it's very as an opponent going into it. I
think you can look at it from both perspects, but
it's very It's welcoming and unwelcoming at the same time.
I like to think about it because it's welcoming because
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so many people are coming out to watch women's basketball.
It's unwelcoming because that is another opponent that you have to.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Face and they love them some idea.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, And it's just like, especially when it going runs,
it gets loud, it gets definiting. You can't hear, you
can't play calls, you can't hear your coaches. It's very
deafening at times, especially when they really get going. So
I think that overall for their program though, I mean
their young team, and I think that they're going to
figure it out. I talked to Gilbert and Williams after
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their game and just say, like those two really will
be the head of where the program continues to go.
And you know they're they're moving in the right direction.
It's always fun to look at where you once were
to where you are now and to be be able
to appreciate like you were you once that kid where
I know, like for me it was me and Moore
talking to me, it was Keana Williams talking to me
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after games and stuff like that. So it was just
fun to see how you come to be the old
head now.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, it's really it's really like full circle You're like, oh,
I'm that guy now, like I'm supposed to be instilling
wisdom when in reality, I know when I was in
that position or still now, it's like I'm still figuring
out myself, but all of a sudden you're looking to
me for help. I'm like, I'm just trying.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
To get through the day.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Man.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, I don't know to get but I think they're
crazy great. I think they're gonna be great.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
They come with a lot of intensity, and they come
with a lot of just fight. That team fights, I think.
I mean, we played them with seven to eight kids
and they all fought. So I think that's just a
testament to the program. You know, when you go against Arizona,
you're going to get high pressure, defensive activity, and that's
just what they're gonna come with. And they prode themselves off,
getting you to turn the ball over and getting easy
layups and transition and stuff like that. So I think
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they're gonna be great. And I think once they all
get healthy and once they all come together, they're gonna
be a dangerous team.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah. I agree, And I mean just kind of talking
about sleeper team somebody like in Arizona players that you
played against a lot of top players this year and
a lot of teams. But do you feel like there's
big kind of a player under the radar that you've
maybe been surprised by or doesn't get enough like spotlight
in the national light. In terms of just how good
they are, it's a couple people. Okay, listen the off
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listen them up Arizona State.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
They gave us about thirty three or thirty four. She's nice.
I think that'll do it nice.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I think like even Aaronet.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I look at Aaronet as somebody that flies in the radar,
but she's just so dominant. I think you don't realize
that until you play against her. But for her to
be able to move the way she moves, the smoothness
and grace that she plays with is just Yes, it's different.
I've never seen I mean other than maybe like Peelee,
you you really don't see bigs move like that and
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be that official because she's not even really like that
tall either. Yeah, but she just puts a lot of
work in and she's really good.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Uh who else would I say? You got me thinking
about the people I've played against.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Well, I'll talk about Aaronet while you you give me
one more. I think being able to play against her
because she started at Arizona, but I also played against her
in like club when I was in high school, and
so to see her development of where she started to
where she is now, it's actually insane. Even just the
jump from last year to this year. So far, she's
a completely different player. She's extended her range, you know,
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like you talked about, just her footwork around the rim,
her finishing, learning how to use the size and strength
that she has. I think it's really making her a
beast this season.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
It's nice, it's just I mean, it makes you. And
she runs the floor so well too that like even
I said it against you when we play Utah, Like,
she opens up so much for so many other people
because you have to pay her attention and most people
have to double her, so then you're doubling off shooters,
or you're doubling off people that you can't leave be neither,
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so that gets free to the game going. Or she's
running the floor, you have to worry about her in transition,
so that opens up slices. I mean, she just across
the board is one of those players that you know
just draws, so much attention that it helps everybody else
on the team. So I'll give it to her, And
I don't know, I wouldn't say Papa is still kind
of underrated, but I think being at South Carolina now
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has really allowed.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
People to see what she brings to the table.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And I've always had a lot of respect for Papa
just because of how she comes to the game, and
she's actually a really good person for most likely she's
so nice, and so I think just seeing her do
well as South Carolina, especially when she was so dangerous
in Oregon and playing against her for so long, just
really you see a lot of people get their flowers.
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That has always kind of deserved them in the pack.
I think Oregon State, too, is is a team of
sleeper teams right now. That that was my fifth question?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Aren't paying contention to?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Was? That was my next question? Tell me about us U.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I haven't really watched them that much, but from playing
them last year to she and like they're all healthy
and they're all just wrecking have it right now?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I think they lost it, yeah by two if I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Not Yeah, And it was close with U c l
A Yeah, and Reagan Beers. You know, she she's going
to be dominant and she's a monster.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
He's going to be one of those dominant post players.
She was a problem as.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
A friend, so a problem.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, She's going to definitely get better and keep grinding
on that part. So I think Oregon State overall in
the pack I would have is my sleeper team, just.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, I would They're dangerous. Yeah, I think like Reagan,
but then you take into account. You got to Leah
just like pulling from forty as soon as she crosses
half court and I'm like, girl, give us a chance
to set up the defense. What are we doing? And
so she's doing that and and that I think another
player for them, aj Morot. I think she's really come
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along and she's more consistent for them in a score.
So I think they've a lot of good pieces and
playing them every year, especially at GIL in core Valles.
Their fans are there every dang game and they are loud.
So I think OSU is definitely a sleeper. But kind
of moving into your guys this season again and your team,
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I mean, you guys were one of the top dogs
leaving last year after your Sweet sixteen run, and so
I feel like you guys created a lot of buzz
about yourself, but also the tournament in general. I had
a lot of buzz talking about just visibility, the viewership numbers,
all those different things. Moving into this season, do you
feel like trying to kind of, you know, carry that
momentum of women's basketball. Is there added pressure or expectation
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that kind of women's basketball as a whole has to
live up to with your performances on national TV games
and everything like that.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I want to share any expectation that wasn't already there.
I just think it's being seen nationally now rather than
those who are experiencing it. So I don't really think
it's I mean, you're gonna go out and play your
game no matter what. And I think especially being in
the pack, the teams you see in March are the
same teams that were there in January and February.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
People just didn't see them.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
So I think overall it doesn't really change the expectation.
It's just more of a you have more eyes on you,
so more people are finally seeing the game from a
I guess a general perspective versus just you know, catching
the championship game at the end of the season. So
I wouldn't. I don't think it's any added pressure. But
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I also don't view a lot of things as pressure
type situations. So I don't know from the best person
to ask in essence, but I think what Kaitlyn Clark
had a triple double last week or or the last game,
she had that same triple double in November, Like, it's no, yeah,
she's still playing the same game she's always played, just
more so more eyes or on her, no, and more
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people are paying attention. But I don't think it really
changes the intensity or the passion or just the overall
game that we're playing in right now.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I see that. I don't think women's basketball so much
is changing because it's always been that same skill level,
Like you talked about, it's really just people tuning in
all year long because now that they've seen these players
and how good everybody is now they're like, oh, snap,
let me tune in. I can actually watch more of
them March badness, Oh my gosh, it's like amazing to them.
And there's the rest of the season going on. Diving
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into what we were talking about earlier a little bit,
just with like people getting love in the pack specifically,
it's kind of like you know people who know no,
but if you're not in the pack, it's like you
don't know how good these players are. And so I'm
gonna run you some names, okay, and I want you
to oh no, no, no, it's gonna be good. It's gonna
be good. I want you to give me just like
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a quick two bullet point of like a scattering report
or like hid around around maybe not the scout, maybe
not the scout, maybe not the scout, but like you
know what they do well, something special about them, give
them their flowers. Okay, we're talking about Okay, So we'll
start off with Kiki Rice.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I think this is good for me because I think
people think I'm just so intense and so far you
all the time, and you are.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I'm really true. I really appreciate people's games.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
So I think Ki right, you know, let's see it.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Kiki Rice.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I think she does a great job in managing the team,
especially coming in as a freshman and having to manage
such a dynasty type program to it UCLA. I think
she did a great job of that. And I also
think she does a great job of learning her teammates.
You could tell she put the work in to learn
her teammates, to know what they do well and how
to put them in the best position. So I think
she really embodies what a point guard is.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Okay, that was good. Okay, next one. We were talking
about Arizona earlier, so we're gonna do too for Arizonkay,
you can do Jada Williams and Kaitlyn Gilbert and then
you take it in whichever order you want to do.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Williams, I'll say, uh, just the fire she plays with
reminds me a lot of myself.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, you could tell she's really passionate about it.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
She's that emotional leader already for them. And I think
overall too, just a good teammate. You could tell she
pours a lot into her teammates. Gilbert, I don't know
if i've ever I would from just what I've seen
she's more on the quiet side, but I think she's
more of that like silent assassin to where like she
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just knows how to maneuver within defenses and within how
you guard her to still get what she wants out
of it. So I think she's nothing but a sophomore,
but knowing that early really allows her to progress her
game in the future, So I see big things for
both of them in the future.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I agree, especially a point about Williams reminding you of you.
I think that points on the money. And then with Gilbert,
I just remember last year, like she wasn't really big
on our scattering the word because they have so many weapons.
And then she came to the game and starts getting
buckets and I'm looking over at our bench, like, what's
the scout? What do you want me to do? It's
always those more so seeing her now have a bigger role,
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I think it's really cool.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
And then my last one is I've known this girl
as a bucket since the first time you played her.
But miss Gianna Nipkins, Nipkins, however you say your last name, girl,
you she's a freaking bucket, Like, there's no offens about
about it. Tell me about Gianna.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
It's funny because Ashly talked to her after we play,
just wishing her the best and wishing her recovery.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, your recovery.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
But I would say she she's one of those that
she just reached the game really well in terms of
how you play her, because you want to play her aggressively,
but at the same time you just have to be
smart with it because Utah's offense in itself is very intricate,
but at the same time, she plays so well within
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it to her like if you overplay her, she's going
to backdoor you. But you get caught up and overplaying
because she can shoot the ball so well. So it's
just like pick your poison type thing. But I think
once they get her back, you know, I think, you talk,
is going to be in a great, great position, especially
with her being part of their future. So yeah, I think, yeah,
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she's just tough to guard overall because she can do
so much.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Is she is. I just remember we played as a
freshman and we had Anna Wilson guarding her, and I'm like, okay, already,
props to you, miss freshman. You got a willy guarded
you your bucket, right, And I remember she hit this
like me and step back behind the back three and
Anna just looked at me and she was like, Yo,
she's tough. Okay, first of all, stop letting her score.
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We get it. Give it her props. But a little
bit more about you. Let's let's take it back to
your roots for a minute. So you're from Birmingham, Alabama,
Tell me how you got into basketball if it was
always basketball? Did you play other sports or how did
this kind of come about?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Basketball was the only sport I would say, like I
went full out with I was the only girl in
my neighborhood. So my neighbor right next door to me,
he had three sons, and they would always being in
their backyard playing basha.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
And then I had a neighbor across the street. Because
I stayed in like a.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Circle, so we were all pretty close with each other.
My neighbor across the street would also come over and
he would play with them, and it got to the
point where I would go outside. And I don't necessarily
know where playing basketball with them came from. I can't remember,
but I would always be in the backyard playing basketball.
My mom would always look out her window because her
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window faces their backyard. And one day my uncle saw
me outside and he told my mom that you need
to put her in organized basketball. She's really good. And
so I think that was about second third grade maybe,
and so from there basketball was a U tournaments all
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the time.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Like that's all of that.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
But then, yeah, I also ran track in high school,
but I more so did it to stay in shape.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
It wasn't really something.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
That I just was fully invested in. And my high
school team then eight hundred meter runner, and I don't know,
God don't know I run eight hundred To this day,
I can tell y'all. Ran that race completely wrong in
terms of just fundamental But yeah, it was the worst.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Thing I ever did.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
But I ended up getting second place at state for it.
I never really had the thought of running track. I'm
sure I could if I fully committed to it.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I'm sure you could. I'm sure you could.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
But yeah, so other than that, I don't think I
did anything else. I made the softball team, but I
didn't like the dirt, so I didn't really invest in that.
I really hate it. Yeah, just I just wasn't a
fan of that. And then my mom put me in
karate early on, very early on, wow, just as a
way of like something to do. I was the only
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kid too, so it wasn't like I had siblings running
around that I could play fight with and and.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Bully and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
So I was so you took it out of class.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, So yeah, but that was pretty in terms of
sports background. And I actually get that a lot because
my mom my mom is fully academic, like sports really,
so everybody's like, what did you get your athletic background from?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I was, I just been doing it for so long
because yeah, nobody and my family really my uncle. My
uncle played basketball and it was pretty good at it,
butther and that I really didn't have a lot of
sports background or even you know, my mom traveling with
a you was her first time doing anything like that too,
so he was kind of figuring it out together.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Well, I mean, it just sounds like you were just
killing it. You said you didn't know how to run
the eight hundred, but somehow we're second at state just
doing it, which is which is crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
By the way, I like the last part. I guess
where everybody got tired of. I just sprinted it because
I jogged everything taken out.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
So yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Like, I know, I fundamentally didn't run it right, but yeah,
it was just time to go. Yeah, it was like,
you're like eighth right now, you're not getting eighth place.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
You didn't come down.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I can't do that. I can't Dad.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
I think I lost a kid that ended up going
to Alabama for track.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
So oh, so let's not about it all. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you're fine. Okay, So track Star hated softball to the dirt,
I get it. But so who was kind of those
players that you watched that you modeled your game after.
Was there anybody like that?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Gid you not? My fair basketball player growing up was
Kandas Parker.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Okay, looking back at it, just how dynamics she was
at that time and how like she was everywhere that
all you saw when he came to in his basketball
was Kandas park So I think just that. And then
growing up, I always wanted to go to Tennessee. Like
Tennessee was dream school. I don't know what it was
about it. I don't know if it was like the
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Orange or whatever. I was like, yeah, I gotta go
to Tennessee. So I guess that's kind of the relation
to why I watched so much of Candis Parker growing up.
But I will also say my moreb was pretty heavy,
but for me personally, like when I got old enough
to like when I was really invested in basketball and
taking it serious.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Morgan William who played at Missisi State.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
She's from Birmingham and I used to pay basketball with
her little sister and so in terms of like looking
at somebody around my size who was just dominant on
the court, who was just a leader for her team
at MCB State, what's really who I looked at to say, like,
you can do it, or this is somebody who is
around who looks like you, who comes from the same
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city as you, and you can really do this, and
you can really you know, put yourself in those shoes
and start to envision it, because once you see it,
especially seeing somebody from your own city do it, it's
kind of it makes seems a little bit more attainable.
So for sure, especially just like a kid looking at
the imagination, looking at where you want to get to
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and goes to set in life. So I would definitely
say Morgan William for sure.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I were watching her, especially when.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Duck Man that was crazy, crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yeah, I bet I would have been on one too.
It was crazy. But I think just it was really
cool to watch a smaller guard like that make the
impact that she did in a variety of ways. And
I think a lot of times smaller guards maybe get
put into a box only being like a peskey defender.
Isn't that she was still getting to the rim. She's
finishing over people.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Twice and she's like, Midie was crazy and it was
like she's still get her shot off. And I think
to even looking at it from a bigger perspective, I
think that mischie Be State team once they beat Yukon,
made women's basketball more of a It wasn't just Yukun anymore.
It wasn't just yeah they were the powerhouse, and yeah
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they want all these snatty and they went for in
a row I think, and all of this other stuff,
but it made them seem more human than what you
would think. So I think, just like I said, she
and that and her being somebody who was a part
of that really just made everything more realistic.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Up until recently, it was really kind of like what
you're talking about. I think it led into kind of
some of the viewerships because people are like, it's always
the same teams at the top. It's the Stanfords, the Tennessee's,
Yukon's every year. So it wasn't as exciting for the
average fan to just watch because you're like, oh, I
know who's gonna end up winning. But I think nowadays
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because there's so much more talent and not everybody wants
to go to a powerhouse. They want to make their
own name somewhere else. Women's basketball is so much more
exciting because it's like, you really don't know, you have
people like you bringing a team like Colorado back into
the main stage. People just everywhere. You know, you take
angel recent throw at LSU and they used to be
a powerhouse, but for some years they weren't really on
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that same level and now they are. So I think
just around the country you have different teams stepping up
into the limelight, which is really exciting. So I think
that definitely just you know, really goes along that point
that you made about Morgan Williams. It was definitely part
of that momentum change. Yeah, But I think more about
your upbringing coming from Birmingham, Alabama, and you talked about
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Colorado was your only power flave offer, So what was
that process like dealing with maybe not having the most
exposure and trying to be noticed by these bigger schools
because you always had the talent. But I think a
lot of kids it's like, how do I find that exposure?
How do I get to that court where all those
teams are playing this and that? So what was that
recruiting experience, like for you.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Honestly, it was tough, just because like I've always bet
on myself and I've always known, like I told this
to anybody, Like on paper, I know I'm not the
best shooter. I might not even be the best pass
for that night. But at the end of the day,
then ten or something that you don't get with everybody
that you would get with me. It's not about talent.
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For me, it's just a simple fact that I will
outwork you and that's how I'm gonna win. And I
think early on, obviously I didn't have that perspective and
mature mentality of recognizing that. But at the same time,
it was just kind of like I was also ruled myself,
like I always wanted to go to Tennessee, but I
knew my tempher of y'all. I was like, yeah, you
probably not gonna end the Tennessee kid. Like it was
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just like I wasn't I didn't really sell myself dreams
to be disappointed. I would just rule myself to say, like,
Colorado is where you're gonna be, then make the best
out of Colorado. Don't dwell on the fact that you
didn't end up at Tennessee, because I feel like if
I would have dwelled on that simple fact, then I
wouldn't be who I am today, or I wouldn't have
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taken the moment that Colorado has been for me and
invested and got the most out of it that I have.
So I think early on just being ruled myself to like, yeah,
your dreams are your dreams. But at the same time,
how can you still make your dreams of reality even
with the opportunities that are pregentted to you. So it
was tough early on, but at the same time, knew
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how I was gonna win, and it was doing a
dirty work. It was outworking people. It was being able
to play forty minutes at the same intensity and passion
and not dying off in twenty Like it was just
like I knew how I was gonna really set myself
apart in this thing. So I think just sticking to
that and knowing who I was and being okay with
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that early on really set me out for success. I
think all in all, sixteen seventeen year old Jaalen was salty,
but twenty two year old Jaalen is like, man, you
made the right decision and it worked out for you.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
So I love that. I feel like you had like
four or five mic drop moments in that, like going
from knowing who you are, making your dreams of reality,
Like I'm taking mental notes right now. That was really good. Wow,
that was inspiring to me Jalen honestly, But no, You're
completely right, especially on that point in that, Like, it's
so hard, especially in AA when you're younger, to not
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compare yourself to other people's journeys and you're life. I
just beat her like why does she have this an ideal?
Or you know my team is better than their team?
Why are they a Nike national team? Just all those
little intricacies. It's very hard when you're sixteen and seventeen.
So I think us now being those well you being
that old head in college basketball like you you, it's
easier to understand those things.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I mean, I get that now. It was like, why'd
you stay at Colorado for so long? And it's like
nobody else wanted me? Why would I go somewhere?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Why would I go take what I've built for myself
in what Colorado has become and take that somewhere else
that had that same opportunity but then take it and
maybe that's me just being still salty at the end
of the day and wanting to, you know, really prove that,
you know, a lot of people missed out on something.
But I guess at the end of today, it was
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more so like, you don't fine because I didn't even
play basketball my high school. My senior year of high school,
I played like twelve games because I had the hip injury.
So then that also caused a lot of people to
drop off, for a lot of people to be unsure
about me. But you know, Colorado, they stayed true and
true throughout the whole process, and it was like, I
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just don't see myself leaving that to go somewhere those too,
because a lot of people don't really realize the grass
is not always green. On the other side, it's really
not facts, especially like having so many friends everywhere else
and hearing you know, how people experiences are why people
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transfer from this school that you're like, you can't be
talking about the same school that I, you know, think
or what I thought was what it was. You don't
really see that as your reality until you hear somebody
who experienced it. So this place has been a blessing
to me, and I want to finish where I started,
and I committed to leaving this place better than I
found it, and they were loyal.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
To me, so I'm be loyal to them too.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yeah. I mean, and you've done that. You've turned around
the program in a very short amount of time. And
so talking a little bit more about Colorado, you get
to Colorado, it's a very different place from Birmingham, Alabama.
How was that culture shock? Not just culture shock, but
also did the altitude hit you? Because, let me tell you,
every time we come it slaps. There's no if and
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butts about it, like it's it's crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
I kind of prepare myself.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
My trainer actually, a couple months before I had to report,
came out here on a like mountain ski trip or something,
and he was like, you have to we got to
get you a mask and we got to get this
work in because I couldn't breathe and I was skiing.
You're not going to be able to breathe playing basketball
out there. So I kind of prepared myself from that instance.
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But I wouldn't really necessarily say I had much of
a hard transit just because simply I'm the only kid,
So I wasn't really leaving so much that I felt
like I couldn't get here behind. And like my mom's
always been one of my biggest supporters, my trainer, I
talked to him all the time still, so I really
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didn't feel like I was leaving a lot behind. And
also I had to grow because once you've been in
a place for so long, going twenty two hours away
from home, it's a big commitment. But it was something
that I felt like I could survive and I would
be okay. So I wouldn't say more so transition wise,
it wasn't as difficult as I think people would assume it.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Would be for me.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
But I would say in terms of just culture wise,
is totally different. It's a little it's a little different now,
especially with Dionne being here and that whole thing that
changed the whole spectrum of what Boulder looks like the
past year and a half. But before that, I would say,
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other than the snow, I really have no complaints. Other
than the snow, I really don't have any complaints. Like
I literally woke up next morning we got back from Arizona,
and I was like, it's snow last night and I
completely had no idea it was supposed to snow, and
I had an appointment at ten fifteen, and then you
have to wake up maybe an hour before you even
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have to leave a house just to like wipe your
car off snow show the driveway.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
So it's not that that part's not fun. But other
than that, it's not too bad.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
And the snow actually was it's pretty melted now in
terms of like roads and driveways and stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
But it does catch you off guard when you're not prepared.
And I was not prepared this morning.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, yeah, that'll really do it. Because I'm a Cali kid,
so I've like I'm one of those people that's like, oh,
I've been to the snow like once or twice. When
we go play at Washington State, I jump into snow
every year like that. That's how it was. But heading
into your freshman year, did you have nerves going to
freshman year? I know I did, so, Like what was
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kind of your mindset changing from high school basketball where
you hadn't gotten to finish your season your season heading
into now playing in one of the best conferences, having
a good non conference schedule, what was that like?
Speaker 1 (42:17):
It was different? It was different because I didn't really
get the typical freshman year my freshman year because the
point guard graduated, so it was me and then Sila,
who was also a sophomore, so we were both two
young kids coming in just trying to figure it out.
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I joke around with JR. All the time, like, you
really threw me in the fire at seventeen, and I
just didn't. I don't know if I appreciate that. I
do now, but at the time, I was like I
thought I was gonna come in, get some weight on me,
you know, learn the ins and out, be able to
just kind of coast through.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
And it wasn't like that. I mean, my first.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Pac twelve game was against Oregon when they had some
Brina and Satu and the and we lost by sixty.
We lost by sixty kids, You not that it was
the whole crowd and they were screaming, they were yelling
the song shout at you, and it was just like.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
That is so that is so stressful when you're there like,
oh God, this this can't be real, This can't be real.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
But at the same time, I think after that game,
a reporter came to me and I think.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
My mentality didn't change.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
I said, they still got to come play us in Boulder,
and I think, yeah, just taking that mentality of like, yeah,
they're good, but it might not be now, but I'm
a one day beat at b b where I can't
We're not losing by sixty organ.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
I think that same.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Year we played you guys, and that was the first
time that we had actually competed, and it was at Maple's.
If I'm not mistaken, I like it was the first game.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Yes, I remember, I wasn't there because that's when I
had my knee injury, and so I remember watching O
and I was yelling at the TV the whole time.
And I remember so specifically because you had that was
like I don't want to say, we have to tell
me what your coming out game was, but I remember
you dropped like twenty one that game.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Yeah, we went to remember and we went to overtime.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, I was yelled at the TV. Somebody stopped her,
like I was pissed.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
And I think that moment for me was that moment
where like it kind of changed the mentality of like, yeah,
Stanford's human and I think, yeah, with that, we just
really built off of that year to year to year,
and I think I would say that Stanford game our
freshman year was the I guess shift in myself as
a player to just be like, like, you can really
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go out here with not being the best of the best,
not being the five stars, four stars, and still be
able to compete with these people and like they're human.
I think that's where the mentality of they put on
their practice jersey saying where you put on yours, they
laced up their shoes and get ready to play. It
just made everything more realistic and more human. I think
from that point on, it just kind of gave me
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that I guess chip on the shoulder to say like,
even though you coming from Colorado, who I think that
year prior was the last team in the pack, you
can really build off of this. You can really, you know,
take what you have and be successful for what you have.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
You don't need.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
What everybody thinks you need to be successful. You can
really be successful where you're at with what you have.
And I think we just make the best out of that.
Knowing that, you know, Colorado is a hard place tore,
especially kids around the nation who don't grow up in
the snow and don't have to deal with it like
it's a tough place to sell, especially even if you're
a city kid. It was a tough place for me
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because I'm like, I don't hike, I don't go in
the mountains. To this day, I've never been up that mountain.
I just don't know. I have like taking pictures, but
it's not like I'm not going on to actually like
so I think it's just in terms of finding people
who who are willing to commit to this and willing
to come here and taking that and say, like, you know,
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we're gonna make the best with what we got. And
I think that's really what we prit our so so on,
and I think that's really why all of us, not
just myself, all of us have that chip on our shoulders.
And I think that's what makes us all special, is
we're all motivated from being that underdog to say we
can really make a change here and we don't need
all the things that are typical for success to be successful.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Oh for sure. I mean just the turnaround that you made.
Talk about your freshman year, you guys were three and
fifteen in the pack, and then last year you went
thirteen and five that's a pretty crazy change. Who knows
just the improvement that you guys are gonna have this season.
It's really crazy to see the turnaround. Yeah, but yeah,
I remember watching y'all when I was sitting at home
freshman year, and I was like, they're good. Like every
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single year, people would always ask us whether it's packsful
media day or just random questions. They're like, oh, who's
an underdog Colorado? Oh? Yes, Evan to see what you
guys did last year in the turnarount made it to
the Sweet sixteen for the first time in like twenty years,
twenty one years. Beating Middle Tennessee and then upsetting Duke
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at Cameron is crazy. So just kind of like just
you specifically, how does it feel to know how big
of a part you were even though you're not from Colorado,
you're kind of like a cu Lengen now, So like,
how does that feel for you to just understand the
gravity that you've had in the program, that you've really
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helped be kind of a cornerstone of turning it around.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
I want to tell you so bad to ask me
when the season is over, because I don't really.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Well, I will, I will text you and I ask you.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
I don't really look at it like that right now,
just because I feel like I still have so much
to do even though I have so little time to
do it. But I just knew at the end of
that I wanted to lead this place better than how
I found it. And whether that was showing other five
six point guards that you can shine at a place
where you're not supposed to or you don't typically fit in,
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because I wouldn't even say I'm a typical pack to
a point guard, or just saying you know, you can
be yourself and still find success. You don't have to,
you know, fit the criteria and fit the mold that
everybody else thinks you have to have to be successful.
So anything like that was kind of the goal. I
was telling Cindy Brynson the other day at Arizona because
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she was like, you didn't want to go to the WNBA,
and I was like, I didn't. I was like, I'm
going to come get my degree and I'm going to
go to the military.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
That is the plan.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
And I literally read an article that I did when
I was seventeen a freshman coming in here after my
freshman year, and.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
I clearly said I do not want to go pro.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
It's not just it's not the end goal for me.
I want to get my degree and then do physics
within the military, and just to see how that's changed,
just because at the end of the day, I wouldn't
necessarily say my.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
Career was for me.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
It was more so to show other people that you
can do it and you don't have to have all
the glace and glamor to be successful. And if I could,
you know, motivate other people that comes from my situation,
or even motivate other people in Birmingham, Alabama who you know,
Birmingham's not a typical women's basketball it's all football. Alabama's
football all day every day. So just being able to
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show kids from similar situations for my neighborhood that you
can go out and still be successful as long as you,
you know, work hard and figure out your way of winning.
That that was pretty much it for me. I didn't
really see what we are now as being my end
goal or reality once I finished this golf So it's
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cool to see overall, and I think just testament to
everybody that I play with and everybody that's been a
part of the program over the years, just you know, everybody,
even small transfer whoever came through, even if you were
only here for a year, you set a mold that
people can continue to build off of, including myself.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
And so it's just like.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Those people who took the time out to draw up
plays with me before practice, or those people who you know,
took time out to be like, this is what it
looks like, and this is what we are, and this
is how we're going to come do it. I just
look at those people as the ones that really set
the foundation for me and for everybody else, and I
hope that I'm setting that same foundation for the people
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that come here after me.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
I think what you said is really powerful just about
not only you know, kind of like being that representation
that you didn't always have growing up in terms of
the five six point guard doing what they're doing now,
and then you know, having Birmingham putting on a map
for more of a women's basketball hub, all those different things.
I think, especially what you talked about in terms of
like the transition from high school to college is very
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hard already taking into account new friends, social life, school
is a whole lot harder. But then also just like
you have to pick up a system. In high school,
you could go out and get a bucket. I know
I would eat a twist before a game and go drop. However,
many just live in the life. And then I pull
up to Stanford guitars like you need to learn one
through four and I'm like, huh, girl, please, And so
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it's a lot to learn. And so I think it's
just it's a lot of balancing that you have to do.
But I think it's weird now that you know you're
the old one on the team and I was old
on the team last year. It's like, how am I
supposed to be instilling all this confidence telling them this
when I still mess up the plays every now and
then and I'm supposed to be the captain knowing everything.
When I mess up with play, oh my god, it's
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like the end of the world. It's a whole thing.
It's a lot to deal with your season this year
and last season, just the growth. And I know last
season we had that double overtime game last year, which
I think, I like, literally, I was so speak I
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wanted to talk about I wanted to talk about me
and you, and I feel like I've always respected you
so much as a competitor, and then over the years
getting to chat more after games, before games, whatever, joking around,
really coming to respect you as a person as well.
So I'll give you my first impression of you, and
then I'll give you time to marinate and think about
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yours of me. Okay, because we didn't know each other
at all until I don't know, sophomore junior year. So
my first impression of you, Jalen, was me watching from
my couch, I sing my leg watching you on TV
get my team twenty ball. But I think what I've
always really admired about you as your game first is,
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like you talked about earlier, the passion, the drive that
you play with is really unparalleled and that energy that
should bring to the game. Because every time I knew
I was going up against you, I was like, okay,
because I'm usually pretty cool, con collected out there, I
just be jogging around, sprinting around. It looks like a
job by storm trying and I'm just like, you have
to match her, like you have to meet that. You
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have to meet that intensity otherwise you're not going to compete.
And so learn seeing that. But then also year and
year out, your scout changed every single year because of
how much you improved, which I think not a lot
of people can say. I think a lot of people
will just kind of plateau in college and not continue
to elevate. And so you see a lot of those
four star, five star recruits kind of dropping off by
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the time we hit to junior senior year. And then
as a person, I think from a competitive point of view,
you see how much you mean to your team, and
so I think that only speaks to your character as
a person, because like playing against you, we could go
on a run. Y'all could go on a run, it
doesn't matter. All I hear is in your huddles, you say,
come on, like you're getting them going, and you're talking
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to each of your teammates in a different manner to
get the best out of them. And so when you
talked about Kiki and her ability to like learn her
teammates and how to put them in the best positions,
you do the exact same thing. Frida Aaronett quay to me,
every different player that you played with and who you
have in your team now, I think it's really special
to see how they all look at you. And I
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know for you and I was like this too. I
was like, I'm not even like that. I just be
out there doing the thing. Like it's hard to give
yourself that grace. But from an outside point of view,
I see how your teammates look at you, how they
come to you when they need you in times of need.
So that's my little gig flowers that you deserve.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
Yeah, Like I said, it's funny you say that because
I feel like for most people who don't really get
to know me, they're like, oh, you just seem quiet
off the court, because I really am like on the
court off the but I'm two different people. I've always
kind of been that kid that will sit in the
back of the class with air posing with a hood
on and don't really speak.
Speaker 3 (54:50):
But then I get like, but.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
You're on the court and you're so energetic and blah
blah blah, and I'm like, I don't know what really
turns it on and all when it comes to basketball,
but really appreciate that because I just think like most
people see the basketball side of things and they're like, oh,
you have to be And I was like, I lived
downstairs of my house with my dog and I in
my room nine times. Oh my God, But no, I
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would say that. Initially, I was like, this girl is
six to point guard about the guard.
Speaker 3 (55:25):
Because because on.
Speaker 1 (55:27):
We would do like scout and stuff, we set it
up and we were like, well, she's the point guard,
but she also posts you up.
Speaker 3 (55:33):
No, i'mody, so what do you want me to do?
What are we going to do here?
Speaker 1 (55:37):
Especially, but I would say more so anything that I've
always really admired is just how poish you are, because
I know, like even we've had a lot of close
games and I just feel like it was always like steady.
Speaker 3 (55:50):
Calm, we need to score.
Speaker 1 (55:53):
Okay, I got it, might go post this five six kids,
we don't get a fucking But no, seriously, I would
just say, just really poised and really like I feel like,
to the point of not really being able to be
a freshman at the time. And I know that you
went through injurybody even coming back from that, it was
kind of always the ball was in your hand and
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it was always like you know what you're gonna get,
but it's like you really can't do anything about it.
So I think that's one thing that I actually have
to learn too, is just how to be steady, especially
with this team. Now and being one of those top
dogs and always getting everybody's fight. So I think that's
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one of the biggest things that I've seen. Even looking
at you in the league, is like, she's just steadies.
She just gon't give me, just don't do what she do,
and you do it very well. And I think that's
a testament. Even like I said, I mean, on playing
against each other for so many years, it was just
always that and I don't think like coming in as
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a freshman, that's just something you naturally know. So the
fact that that was something that you came with is
just a testament to just the work you've done and
just the maturity that you have. I think that a
lot of people don't really come in with.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
Oh so sweet, so heartwarming, oh my gosh, ugh so
goodness the second to take all that in. But I'll
just turn it back to you so I can have
my moment. So last year, crazy run off the tournament
and you decided to come back for a fifth year.
So what was that Was that decision kind of like
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unfinished business? Did you know you're going to come back
for a fifth year or what was that process? Looking
like it was.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
A lot of thought that went into it. Not more
so in trying to leave Colorado. That wasn't a question.
I knew, like it wasn't a team in America that
I would rather play for. It was more so at
the time just family. I'm really close with my family.
I have a big family, and I've always been big
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on wanting to be able to play in front of
my family. And even last year, I would say it
was a pretty successful season for me. But I wasn't
really sold on the pro life yet or it wasn't
really like now you can really do this, You can
really you know, go out and get a chance to
do with a lot of people don't. Because at that
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point in time, I had also graduated with my masters.
I was like, I'm content. I had a sense of
piece of what I had done here, and I was like,
if this is going to be my last like playing
basketball on such as stage, I would rather do it
at home. So I think that's more so where the
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thought of deciding to come back or not came from.
I had so many like stories like oh, well, this
person said that you could go here and with Nio
and you know, just with so much of what's in
our game now you have more opportunities and blah blah,
like it's not that that's gonna sell me. I don't
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really care about Yeah, that was the case, I would
have left a long time ago, to be honest, Like,
if that was what I was about and that's what
the popularity and all of that was for me, I
would have left a long time ago. So it wasn't
that it was more so like a just genuine sitting
down talking to my family. It was my mom and
grandma actually who really saw me on coming back, because
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they were like, like, go chase your dream. You have
an opportunity to go play for you know, a place
where you love and a place where you know your
coaches or like your second family and your teammates or
like your second family. You have an opportunity to go
do that again and do and go even further than
what you did last year, and just put myself an
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opportunity where this probably won't be my last year. Playing
basketball on such a competitive level too, has just kind
of made it more enjoyable because, like I said, I
didn't really it wasn't that I didn't think I was
good enough. It was just Marshall, like, it's only one
hundred and forty four, kid, are you going to make
that team or not? And I think just set myself
up for the success of thinking like, no, I can
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really compete and try to reach my goals and reach
dreams that I never even you know, saw being possible.
Out of all of this was kind of what changed
to I guess mentality.
Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
So yeah, no, I mean, I think from outside perspective,
it's really cool to hear because I feel like I
watch all these things from you from a distance, but
then actually getting to hear just like how the trajectory
at Colorado changed a lot of different things in terms
of not only the Colorado program you as a basketball player,
but also what you want for your life going pro,
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doing these different things. And so just to hear those
different changes and the different intricacies to everybody's different decision
making processes. It was more than just basketball. It's where
I want to play, the loyalty of the program, all
these different things, giving up being closer to home. I
think it's it's really cool to hear. And just more
about We've talked about being a five to six point guard.
(01:01:02):
I'm the opposite six' two point. Guard so there's DIFFERENT
i KNOW i have a lot of pros and cons
to being a telet. Guard it's a big con that's
having people like you pick me up full. Court very. Annoying.
Jalen by the, way, anyways what are the pros and
cons of you being that five to six point? Guard
what do you think is? Hard what you think gives
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you that.
Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
EDGE i also one of the top things that's hard
is when you actually blow by your initial defender and
you have the decision to like go to the rack
or dish it, off and it's, like IF i go
to the, Rack i'm probably gonna get.
Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Block but IF i dish it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Off they're also so long that they also tip the
ball out even though it's necessarily. Open but because you're
just five to, six you get into trouble a lot of.
Time SO i think learning how to read that or
get the secondary defender off balance to still be able
to give to what you want to get to has
always been, tough just because you like you can't change
how it is what it. IS i would Say stanford for.
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Sure stanford And Organ sae y'all two really taught me
how to finish over taller BECAUSE i remember last year
with the with the double, Overtime like like at one
point we were down by two AND i had to
Finish overlorn And, brink AND i was, like, whoa NOW
i don't know how to win. IT i still as
they don't know how to shot win. It but it
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was just girl me.
Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Either it was WHAT i was.
Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Upset it was just like, man like you just have
to learn like angles and stuff that you might not,
necessarily especially with me and being so fast as, well
learning how to change speeds was very, hard just because
like just having to read all of that was SOMETHING
i never had to do AND i never did naturally
BECAUSE i came into college of past first point, Girl
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SO i was LIKE i was cool with just to.
ASSIST i didn't really have to score. MUCH i, mean,
defensively IF i gotta still gotta breakaway, layup but like
with our offense and having the ball in my hands so,
much it was just a learning process of learning how
to still get to WHAT i need to get, to
but how to do it in a way that isn't
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one hundred miles per. Hour SO i would definitely say
that was just hard and new to, learn and it's
still a learning process today with learning like how people
are going to guard. Me BUT i would say pro
definitely being. Fast it's, always it's always, fun it's always
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it's always good THAT i would say defensive intensity is
Something i've always prided myself. On and ALSO i wouldn't
necessarily say it's a pro for, myself but being in
a system that allows you to kind of pick your
poison makes my, GAME i guess easier for myself in
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terms of IF i Have freedom on the right side
And maddie on the, left it's like who you're gonna
help off of Because, Freda i'm just gonna pass it
in the ball and it's gonna go up, there gonna
be three or if you, know as a big and,
Transition i'm coming down the, lane But aaronett's standing right.
Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
There that's just a dump off. Layup SO i, think.
Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Yeah being A i would say overall for myself reading the,
game it's something THAT i Think i'm pretty good at just,
because LIKE i, SAID i have so many weapons around
me where it's, LIKE i, know IF i Put nettie
In freda and screening, actions you're gonna have to pick
one or the other because either you're gonna help off
free to take Away, neddie or you're not gonna help
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off and you're leaving your post.
Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
PLAYER i don't want to know way air in.
Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
It SO i think reading the game is something that
this team has made easy for me to WHERE i
think we'll also translate in knowing how to read your
teammates and knowing how to use them as pieces to
be successful as a.
Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Team, YEAH i, think, YEAH i like the. PROS i
have some of those pro not all of those. Pros
BUT i think talking just a little bit about your,
game and we talked a little bit about how you
elevate each year and those different pros like learning the
change of pace and the court vision and this and,
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that learning how to work out of the print and
offense to what works best for you and your. Teams
what do you think heading into this year has been
the biggest change in your?
Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
Game, honestly working smarter and not, harder Because i'm a
very hard worker And i'm a very like get after
a type of. Kid BUT i also try to.
Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Learn like in getting, older, too you have to put
yourself in the best position to where like even looking
back at my old, FILM i would sometimes be out
of position Because i'm working so hard and it's not the,
effort the efforts, there but the position is off because
you know you're exerting so much effort to try to
get a steal or something like. That SO i think
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learning like the game in terms of the x's and
os versus just depending on the athleticism to be. There
the athleticism will bail you, out but it'll also gets
you in trouble, Sometimes SO i think learning that and
also just learning like to pick my spots. MORE i
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think this Year i've been a lot more aggressive on
the offensive end That i've ever, been AND i think
that just comes from learning how to pick your spots
and learning LIKE i, said IF i Got freedom on
the left And maddie on the, right it's kind of
like you have to be aggressive within that space because
if you're never, aggressive they're never gonna help off Of,
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freedom or they're never going to help off Of, netty,
Yeah or if you're not you, know pushing the ball
in transition to get quoy at the trail, spot you're
never going to get her definders to drop because you're
not pushing the. Tempo SO i think learning the x's
and os really is something That i've grown. At AND
i think, also LIKE i, said learning how people are
in a guard going on to ball screens and being
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comfortable to hit the mid range pull, up you, know
every time somebody goes, under because at that, point if
if you let them keep going under and you're not
going to do anything about, it then it works to their.
Advantage so being able to, like you, know be confident in.
That AND i think Coach jay And matt who's another
coach on the, staff really pushed me in the offensive
room to really be confident or even my. Position COACH
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tk is always, like you passed the ball for layups
every time and you can just take the layup And i'm,
like all, Right so just like being more aggressive to
know my aggressiveness will open up everybody else and vice.
Versa LIKE i said, Earlier nettie's aggressiveness and running the,
floor like knowing how that all works together and then
we all have an important part to play in helping
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each other be successful for what we do. Well for,
Sure it's SOMETHING i would definitely say grew and has
evolved and continues to evolve throughout the.
Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Season, yeah AND i think that specific skiller mindset really
comes with maturity as. Well like as a, FRESHMAN i
know for, ME i was very much just like what
DO i need to? Do, okay pass, Me, Okay NOW
i need to score this and, That and then as
you get, older you get more familiar with your system
and your. Teammates it's not always well most of the
time it is the way we, think but it's, like
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not always how DO i get my teammates in the best.
Position but it's also you, Know i'm not gonna get
frieda her. Three i'm not going to get this person or.
Three IF i don't drive by my defender a few,
TIMES i need to go get mine BEFORE i can
then distribute and do WHAT i like to do and
get everybody else. Theirs SO i think it's definitely maturity
to have that. Mindset but talking about some of your
teammates Like aaronet And quay And, frida you are very
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much the face Of colorado basketball right, now but like
you talked, about it wouldn't be that without the people
surrounding you and what you guys are. Together SO i Mean,
aaronett she's a bucket and she had twenty in the
tight winning Against arizona last year she was most improved
in the. Pack and THEN i, Mean i've Known frida's
a bucket Since. Homegirl while it's on, campus like it
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was a. Thing do not let her get off of.
Three AND i Think lsu had to learn that the
hard way earlier in the, season and somebody Like quay
watching her growth From washington to now being with you
guys for a few, years tell me a little bit
about what each of them bring to the team that
make you guys as a whole so, great because it
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looks like they all buy in to their role on
the team as everybody. Does and Like, quay she gonna
get you a, Three she's gonna get to her little
right hand lay and she's out of the. Left like
there's so. Much there's so much going on with. Everybody
so tell me a little bit about what makes your
team so special because of some of those.
Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Players, yeah LIKE i, said really pick your.
Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
Poison but to the point of what makes us, SPECIAL
i think it's the unselfishes of we don't care who
night it, is as long as we. Win AND i
think that could be a testament to everybody on this
team has had a crazy night LIKE i, know free
To lsu Or aaronet who's pretty been every night, yeah
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Or kway who had double, doubles and it's just, like,
yeah you just you just don't, Really it's like who
do you take? Away because you can't take away, everybody
even our Uh tam who is a driver who is,
Aggressive kendle who's like a pest and just gonna get
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after you all, day And kendall just doesn't. Care she's
just she's gonna be. There, Yeah maddie who's a. Shooter
Sarah Rose smith to transferred from a zoo who's just
like Steady. Eddy you just rebound like crazy. Rebounds sarah's
probably one of the best Rebounders i've ever seen that her.
Size SO i think that part is just what makes
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us special is genuinely we don't care.
Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
As long as we.
Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Win as long as you, know we do our jobs
and we come out, SUCCESSFUL i don't care who had
thirty we.
Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Won, YEAH i, MEAN i think that's what makes the
best teams are the ones or have that unselfishness at the,
core and then that team chemistry with trust and respect
like you're talking, about allows you to be who you guys.
ARE i think a little bit more about Just colorado
as a. WHOLE i feel like there's a different vibe
on campus these. DAYS i remember when we used to
come To Colorado, jalen there were not that many people
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at the, Games but, nowadays like with you, know you
Got dion there and the whole football thing has. Changed
but then it's also men's basketball is doing. Better women's.
Sports you guys going to the tournament last, year do
you feel like there's a different type of, vibe more
energy at your, games more just like energy from, fans
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more stuff like. That heading into this last season At, Colorado.
Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Yeah, YEAH i mean Our utah game was the highest
crowd we've had in a couple of. Years AND i
think it's just a, testament LIKE i, said to the
program and the word and people are you, know starting
to respond to that and see that for themselves that
this team is pretty good and we got to come,
out yeah and support. Them, Overall like, campus campus is.
(01:12:02):
Different BUT i think one thing THAT i was, say
have our letter department has done a good job of
is we really do support each, Other like we really
like the men come to our, games we go to their.
Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
GAMES i, mean after The utah.
Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
GAME i went to our men's game Against Washington state
and our men point guard drop thirty four points and
it was his career and just being, able you, know
to celebrate that moment with, him and being able to you,
know really have that friendship to where you can genuely
be happy for one another and know the work that
each other puts in to support one another is, important
ESPECIALLY i think from an overarching perspective looking at men
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supporting women's, SPORTS i think that's just really huge, that you,
KNOW i think a couple of us have that relationship
to where we can really say that we genuinely support
each other and know what each other goes.
Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Through so that makes it all the more.
Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Sweeter and SO i, think, yeah that's one thing that
we do do a good job on campus is having
OUTSIDE i even, know like yesterday we got our practice.
Players they always like they hosted study sessions during finals
week and some of us we hang out with. Them
and so just being able to bum with other people
to make your life easier because you don't have just
the people that you see every.
Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Day every day all the.
Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Time you're you, know only, friends which can, yes because
you get you, KNOW i mean we spend time at
it's LIKE i love.
Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
You, YEAH i love.
Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
YOU i need to change the scenery year in. There so, yes,
no you do do a good job.
Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Overall, YEAH i think what's so special about the college
athletics scene is being able to have friends with different. Sports,
yeah you can relate to, them but, like you, know
tell me about your. Practice you convent to, Me i'm
going to do.
Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
This they have no idea what practice look. Like you
can just come, clean get off your. Chess nobody has
no biased. Opinions it's just like you don't even know
What i'm talking. About so, yeah come so. Good it makes,
It it makes it. Nice, OH i completely.
Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Agree like some of my best friends run, football AND
i would go to their games just be, like did you? Play?
WELL i don't, know but it was fun to. Go
it was, great, Right but it's it's. Great so heading
into our last two, sections, here we have. ONE i
did a little bit of background research on, you so
it's gonna. Be it's gonna. Be i'm gonna give you
three items and then you gotta let one. Go which
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one you're gonna? Cut, yeah, Okay so we'll do a
simple one, first just like a game. Debroutine, okay so
you gotta cut one of these. Three you got pregame,
meal shoot around and warm up music shoot? Around yeah,
done but they.
Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
In a.
Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Pack we play at twelve On. Sundays, yeah it is crazy. Crazy,
YEAH i don't need that in my.
Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
LIFE i only say that for that part BECAUSE I
i definitely could take the sleeping in to maybe nine
eight and then comes straight to the dam for the.
Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Game, Okay, Okay so then next question is very specific to.
You we got, Legos greek, mythology And. Shakespeare which one
are you? Driving, YEAH i gotta let go for, good
like let, yeah let go for the foreseeable.
Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
Future definitely Not.
Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
LEGOS i have three downstairs THAT, i, okay am about to,
start SO i.
Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
CAN'T i, Can't, OKAY i would Say, shakespeare but it can.
Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Go, yeah only BECAUSE i have a quote tatted on,
me so it's always with me, forever even IF i
let it go shut the loop. Home, YEAH i always
Say shakespeare Because greek mythology it's so much to, unpack
like you've never done it. All, yeah so it's just
so much, yeah under, Learning But shakespeare is already on me.
Forever SO i feel confident in being okay WITH.
Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
I think that's our hardest that's our hardest question all.
Day it was what it seems? Like got? You it got?
You and then our last one on this topic is
we got? Shoes we got? Dunks jordan wants or Ugs.
Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
Jordan wan's high tops.
Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
In, general both you're losing.
Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
BOTH i would say. UGGS i would, say.
Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Okay okay, today even In, COLORADO i know it's, cold,
yeah BUT i mean we'll find a, box, crocs, cameras
fuzzy socks you can.
Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
Get you can get some warmth in there.
Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Somewhere, Okay, Okay so head into our last, section the vibe.
Check it's going to be rapid. Fire so we've had some.
Guests some guests are, horrible some guests are. Great SO
i believe in. You YOU'RE i hope you're gonna be
on the great. Side, okay here we. Go what's the
drill you never want to see on the practice?
Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
Plan pissed and? Passing?
Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Oh is it like full quart or? Something, NO i don't.
Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Know not explaining it is that passing is a full
court passion drill that comes with.
Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Layups, oh were you just going in a.
Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
Loop, yeah but it's two.
Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
Teams so you have white Team black, team like six
players on the, court and you to get like six
with the heavy, ball six without, it and then twelve
with the heavy, ball twelve without, it and it's like
thirty seconds for each and then a minute for the.
Twelves AND i just have Had my teammates are gonna.
LAUGH i had a terrible experience with, that and it Was, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
It was not. Good it was not. Good it's not.
Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
Fun and we recently put that drill in this. Year
we haven't did it as much as we did last,
Year So i'm. Crossing my favorite said that stays the.
Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
Case but and if coach she can, Go i'm gonna
send it to. Me she knows how MUCH i. Hate thank.
Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
You we'll send you a, clip just a little gay. Clip.
Okay would you rather have a game when he shot
or a game when he's still still okay and one
or three pointer and one off the court go, to, sneaker.
Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
Go TO i would have to say my my red dunks.
Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
Okay, OKAY a, CLASSIC a group TikTok or the solo.
Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
TikTok neither.
Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
NEITHER i. Know you don't really a TikTok at All,
okay trying to displace. It, OH i hope they. DO
i want to see you in some toughest place to
play on the.
Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Road Kill.
Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Mikael, yeah or like when When sabrina them were, there,
orgon that was, tough was. Crazy, yeah who's the biggest
trash talker.
Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
That i've ever?
Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Played or Yeah i've ever play hand it hands down
To Kaitlin clark That i've ever.
Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
Played, okay, okay and then what about in the pack can?
Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Rink?
Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
Okay and then we got the hardest player to.
Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
GUARD i run a shout Out Ty. Skinner she's not
playing At Arizona state right.
Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Now She oh my, god a. Buck she is a.
Problem she's a, problem a. Problem and, yes yeah that
girl doesn't get to put her on the on the.
Sleep yes she's oh, good she's a. Problem yeah she.
Is scouting her is hard and then even just executing it.
Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Because she just she's so, quick like like it's, fast
but then you have quick and she's. Quick it's. Crazy so,
Yeah Ty skinner definitely gets some love for me because.
Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
That's a good. One that's a good. One, okay what's
your biggest basketball? Eck my biggest basketball. ICK i really
hate the road shorts row jersey little like like one
world is, cool but when it's like too, Much, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
Like when they JUST i don't, know like when you
tuk them in and. STUFF i just don't like the
diaper pants for. You my girlfriend's gonna kill.
Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Me i'm. Weak, okay who's your? Basketball?
Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
Goat Candice. PARKER i gotta give it to.
Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
YOU i, Said, okay do you have a what you?
Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
SAY i just think she set the tone and really
brought a lot of like attention to women's.
Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
Basketball, OKAY i, agree that's that's a good. Pick that's
a good. Pick do you do you have a celebrity look?
Alike have you been told you look like? SOMEBODY i
haven't somebody?
Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
There it was differently let me, know BUT i personally there's.
Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
Somebody out there. Knows. Okay and then now we need
you to pick somebody on another. Team it can be
something that you played, against someone who you have it
to be your two on two. Teammates, HMMM i almost
spoke too.
Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
SOON i will, Say Cameron, BRINK i think our, energy,
okay would be.
Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
Dangerous, yeah you two have.
Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
A lot of. Energy, yeah, Yeah, okay what's your favorite
pregame hype song right?
Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
Now is sc the because the beat is really hard on?
Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
That gotcha? Good and then last question is your best
impersonation of COACH.
Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
JA i don't have an. Impersonation IF i could stand
and show, YOU i, Would but coach they tripped over
the invisible lines all the, time like does? She and
then they'll sit there and, say, oh it's a line
right there and it's.
Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
Nothing she just.
Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
Tripped and so IF i REALLY i really could stand
up and show y'all would because they really does trip
over lines like it's her job AND i.
Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Don't know Why, god but it just gets. Her, yeah,
yeah it gets her all the every every COACH J,
yeah COACH. J number one cut pistol laups and number
two work on your balance because what are we? Doing But.
Jalen this has been so. Great thank you so much
for coming, on.
Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
No, problem no, problems.
Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
Funny and thank you everybody for. Listening we'll be back
next week with another episode Of SOMETIMES I. Hope thank,
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