Natasha Cloud

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There is no hate to Stewie, Like Stewie is extremely deserving.
If Asia would have won it, she's extremely deserving. But
what a time for our league that we have three
candidates that had phenomenal last seasons to be like even
in the in the mixed where but what Alica Thomas
has done this season we have never seen in this league.
Never Stewie has done. We've seen it before. Like I'm

(00:22):
not I'm not taking no knockoff of that because what
they are able to do right now and the efficiency
that they are playing at two all season like that
is something to be said. But again, if you take
at off the Connecticut, they are not in the semi finals. Yeah,
they're not even I don't even know if for real.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Like if they would, I'm gonna say they would be
in the.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Playoffs because dB is still tough, Like they have other
pieces right and tiff and back, but at is QB one.
She is defender one.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
She is like she has triple double.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
It. I don't know if y'all understand how hard it
is to have a triple double, like oh my god,
and torn shoulder lad rooms.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
That's what I'm saying, Like Pau, you're doing what people.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Be trying to flame her for a shot. I'm like,
if y'all only knew she has two torn labrooms up there.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
So welcome back to Sometimes I Hoop. We've got a
tough veteran Hooper on the pod today.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
A quick humble brag about our superstar twenty nineteen WNBA
Champ Washington Mystics Franchise Leader and Assists twenty twenty two
WNBA All Defensive First Team none other than Natasha Cloud.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Thanks for being on. Thank you for me girl. You
deserve it. You deserve it. Appreciate it. How you doing.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
I'm good.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
I rookie season is over now I get some chance
to relax, which is what you needed to.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Take a breath. Just take a breath, and you cann't
going overseas this year. I didn't ask you that.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Possibly in January. It's the plan.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Take some time I'm coming off the college year, and
then maybe go overseas later.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
I think that's really smart because that's what I might
do too.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, but sometimes it decompress for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Absolutely, Like just lock myself in this rule exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
We'll just jump right into the landscape of what's going
on right now. Playoffs are in full swing. You and
I both got knocked out in the first round, which
was tough.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
So it's tough.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
It's tough, but I mean, you were on one creating
chaos out there, wreaking habit on the defense man.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
You had a thirty three ball, which.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Was insane, insane, But just talk to us about the series.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
What was that like? You were just being a menace
out there everywhere, so tell us about it.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, honestly, we were happy that y'all finished in six
because we just did a match up with Dallas Wells
and we were like, we're as a team, we feel
much more comfortable going into a series with New York.
We had just played them. We felt like we matched
up well. But obviously the story of our season was
just injuries, and for any team to lose three starters
for two months of their season, I don't even know

(02:56):
if a team would have gotten into playoffs. So with
that being said, I'm really proud of our team, our resiliency.
We played with the Great eight for like two months,
but that's that series. We finally got a Layana back,
We got a back. Obviously, we're still missing Shakira, which
people don't give her the credit that she deserves. She
is the anchor of our defense. Like you want to

(03:16):
talk about, Yes, I like to get out and guard,
but when I get beat, the first thing I yells Kira.
So not having that luxury of having a rim protector,
someone that could bang with fives, that was really hard
for us all season. But Game one, New York kind
of came out. They were on fire. Everyone, what they
were shooting percentage was from the floor, was like, literally,

(03:37):
we can't do nothing, Like there is nothing that we
can do that's slowing you down. And obviously I started
on Sabrina, but we were switching a lot more within
the first game, and so I feel like she got
freed up, we got off had like seven to three
set like a record.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
So going into game.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Two, for me, it was completely I gotta be a villain.
I got to take Sabrina completely out of being an
X factor for them and switching us me getting off her,
that just doesn't benefit us as a defensive minded team.
So just trying to keep a bigger, stronger guard on her,
get in her stuff, kind of get into her head.
Like there was points where they were coming down and

(04:14):
we would be in the corner and I would literally
just have I would be faced on her, have my
head on her stomach, like pushing her with my head,
just like straight villain stuff, and it's respect.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Like a lot of people, at the end of the day,
I think I get.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Made to be a villain, but I really am just
passionate about this game. I love defense, I love being
our go to defender, and that night it just so
happened that my defense brought my offense to and playing
in that environment in a Barclay center that sold out.
We dream of those moments since we're kids. So I
was definitely like in the driveway like oh yeah, three

(04:47):
two one, just pulling stuff. But it was unfortunately it
didn't kind of fall in our favor, And that's a
part of the game, right.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Failure is a part of this game, and it's why
we love it.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
It's why we continue to fight and get better and
reattack and figure out pivot different ways. And it was hard,
but you always want to win a championship. It's always
hard to get knocked out and to be swept. That's
not funny either, Like as a competitor, that shit sucks
for me. Like I was a sad girl for like
three days afterwards. It stings.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
It stings y'all to wallowing it for a bit, but not.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Too you have not too long, but like sitting there
for like two days on leave the apartment, no one
say nothing to me. I wait to I got you.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
I guess you talked about just the ups and downs
that you guys went through as a team this year.
When you look at that roster fully healthy, it's scary,
like y'all have a lot of weapons, and you talked
about like especially Shakira, right, she really holds it down,
and you have so many weapons with you and Brittany
and Elena.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
The list just goes on.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
But just to think about, you know, us come in
almost healthy into the postseason, it really changed the tides
to see you as are a sixth place team, like
there's no way, crazy, like no way.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
And I appreciated coach Sandy for being like, we're playing
the top four team in our league when they're healthy.
So just having that respect because I feel like for
those two months that we were really grinding and slim
and I put the team on our back for you
really did, and that was people don't talk about mentally
how hard that is, especially when three starters around and
new coach, new kind of everything. It's just a lot

(06:24):
fell on our shoulders. But that's one thing I'm super
thankful for is the we brought slim in and slim
to my career. I don't know, it's just like that's
my poppy crop. But we're able to hold each other accountable.
Like y'all see us arguing the game, she'll be like,
you need to get that, Like, shut up, I'm talking
to me. You're not my dad, y'all, do be goofing.

(06:46):
But it's so darious. Yeah, that's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Because we just both want to win at the end
of the day.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
So I've been super appreciative of that poppy crop kind
of duo. And she made me better that two months
where we had a lot on our and it was
just kind of crazy and chaotic. It made us such
better players, leaders, like all around better people too. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
I mean, just talking about the role that the two
of you had this year on that Mystic squad, it
seemed like, you know, you've always been a vocal leader
and everything like that, but really having to step into
that role of being the two vets on the court
what did it take to kind of build that chemistry
between the two of you that then just oozed off
into the rest of the team when it was just
that Grade eight for a few good months, y'all were
running it.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
We was running it. I'll be honest with you. At first,
Slim coming in, I've been with the Mystics my whole
entire career. I've been there eight years, I've won a championship,
I've been QB one, so, like, everything typically goes through me.
So adding Slim in another point guard, I've never had
that before. Even when Christy played, Yeah, we would dibble,
dabble between the one and two, but she's a Christy

(07:50):
Toliverant is a scoring too, Like that's just what it is.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
She has the mind of a point guard, but she's
a scorer.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
So now bringing in another point guard and we play
like we play, but we played different at the same
time too, So that was an adjustment at first. And
so Slim is super dope. She's like, I just didn't
want to come in and step on toes and I
was like, but I never I never viewed it like
that because it was just for me, Like, this is
what the Mystics are used to, but you have to

(08:16):
be able to adjust and pivot and really like be coachable,
be a great teammate, figure out what's working for you.
But quickly me and Slim figured out like we were
best friends. It was like step brothers, Like you just
become best friends.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yep, sure, yep, yep, crows all that.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
So I think that dynamic really set us up for
something positive moving forward. Obviously, when all three starters went out,
we had a lot of growing plans because both me
and Slim are raw rob players, like we're get into it.
We're emotional. I'm a double Pisces. She's an Aquarius like
we are just that is fire, that is fire on fire.

(08:53):
On top of it, we're both loud, we're both obnoxious. Like.
It was the biggest challenge on my career thus far
that I had to tap into my water and figuring
out how do I tap into water? Because we so
often as players that fire, that's what drives us, right,
that's what makes us great, that's what sets us apart.
But in that water is actually more powerful than that fire.

(09:16):
So how do I learn how to tap into this
water when my team is not necessarily responding to my
fire that it has the last seven years. So I
had to really take like a step back and be like,
am I doing everything that I need to do as
a leader, because regardless in those two months, that's a
lot of pressure, so as it is worth losing and
I'm playing like some of the greatest basketball and it's

(09:39):
just like Slim and Eye. The dynamic of our friendship,
like being able to sit down after really frustrating games,
cry out if we needed to, like argue it out,
if we needed to argue our point, argue her point,
challenge each other, and be like, you know what, you
ain't leaning into your water right now, so I need
you to lean into your water. I think that was

(09:59):
like the jump of my career this year, and I'm
really proud of it because even in failure, like there
was points that I failed as a leader and people
don't talk about that, Like there was points that I
failed as a leader, but being able to be accountable
for those failures and be like, you know what, that
was a flawed movement for me. I want to work
on it. I want to get better. Actually, one of
our games was against y'all, and I don't know if

(10:21):
you remember it, but y'all smacked the shit out of
us on the road.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
It was like an eight game road trip.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
We had lost every game on that road trip and
we finish it with y'all and I remember being in
that game watching it back in my body language was terrible,
like terrible. I had to go home and sit with
that and figure out, Okay, am I really about being
the leader of this team? Am I really about baqb one?
And if I am, I have to make adjustments of

(10:48):
how I lead moving forward, regardless of how hard it is,
regardless of how the plea the get is. This is
the role that you know, God gave me, so I
have to figure out how to fulfill it to the
best of my ability.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
No, I mean, for sure, I think a lot of
points you made. It makes a lot of sense where
we're so used to playing with such passion, and especially
that's the role that you've been in your whole career
where it's like I'm the energy on this and that,
and so having somebody like Slim come in where both
of you are going through that same thing and being
able to hold yourself accountable but have somebody else to
check you as well, where it's like Okay, we can

(11:20):
get on each other this and that, But just talking
about finding your water, it's hard to do, and it's
hard to stay consistent with it.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
It's hard.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
And so when you're going through times where you're not
being the leader you want to be. You're on this
eight game losing streak, things like.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
That are hard.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
What did you do to tap back into that and
really find your water and find that leadership role that
you need?

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Because I know, you know your team feeds off of you.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
So it's like when they say you get round up
and your body language isn't there, They're gonna be like,
all right, I can cool out, I can relax, I
can be the same way.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
And then I'm like, damn no, we all supposed to
be doing. I think the biggest thing I learned through
finding my water was my mindfulness, and mindfulness has been
something that I've practiced since my third year in the league.
We actually, the Mystics organization, we've always had a sports
psych Stu Singer, and he's been outside of Seafubernard or

(12:15):
player development. He has changed my career. When I first
came into the league, right as a point guard. You know,
obviously you've got moved into that point. It is not
like people think that shit is easy, and it is
not easy to all the plays. I got to be
able to know what places to call, when to call,
at what point in the game. I got to make
sure my shooters, my scorers are getting shots, like I

(12:36):
got to make sure everyone's in the right pat It's
a lot. So I feel like in my first three years,
I just I didn't necessarily have the VET leadership that
I needed either, So I was just kind of chaotic
and that mindfulness being able to tap into Listen, your
feelings are valid.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Whatever you feel as a human being are valid.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
But what are the solutions that we can present that
will help you move on those moments that you know
you have a bad turnover. You shouldn't be carrying it
over as three possessions, like you got to be able
to just feel it, let it go, focus on something else.
But more than anything, just being like my meditation in
the mornings or before games, being able to sit be

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where my feed are breathe, get my body to like
a neutral position, right because our bodies naturally take a
fight or flight approach to everything in life, but especially
when we're playing. We are in complete fight mode like
all the time. So in those moments of fight and fire,
how do I get to my water? Even in timeouts
and stuff, people will be like you're good. I'm like, yeah,
I'm breathing because my fire, like my gorilla is coming

(13:39):
out and I feel it and I'm trying to push
that thing back now. So definitely mindfulness, definitely my breathing.
And just like mindfulness is working on yourself and being
okay with being human and being flawed and having you know, shortcomings.
But what are the solutions to those shortcomings that will
help us get back into the direction that we need
to go?

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Sure, I think what you said just about like tangible.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Solutions, because a lot of times these big picture things
and I'm like, okay.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
You need where do you want to be?

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Why do you want to do that?

Speaker 4 (14:08):
And it's like, what's the small tangible thing I can
do to make a difference right now that will help us?

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yes, the lowest hanging fruit that I can grab.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, because that's what you need In the midst of
a game.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
It's like I need that quick thing because if I'm
turning over two three times, I'm like I need a
mess up.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Hey, I need a moment, not my confidence. I'm playing
trash out here. I don't know what's going on. Like
if you remember when I wrote you mid season two, Yeah,
I just I loved you at Stanford and you're cold
like a two way player, and so I understanding how
hard it is to come into that point guard position.
I was like, I'm gonna reach out to it because

(14:44):
I want you to know that I see you, I
appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
It's not easy, which you are.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
You are up for the challenge right, and you always
have and it's just you being confident in that, just
finding right those low hanging fruits that yeah, okay, these
are things that we can just focus on, be impactful for,
and then our game will just blossom because of those things.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Oh yeah, and that meant the world to me. I
literally I opened up my phone and I caught. I
was like, I was like, you know when you get.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Like a fun message and you're like, okay, wait do
I respond fast?

Speaker 1 (15:17):
What do I say?

Speaker 5 (15:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (15:19):
I'm like over here drafting up messages like okay, so
what do I say to sound cool but thankful and thoughtful?
It was so funny, but no that it was great
and met the world.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, I remember you. We played y'all at home and
you would have maybe like a turnover two when we
had got down to a sideline down a bounds and
you were going up to catch the ball and I
was like, baby, just breathe, like, okay, maybe scored on me. No,
then you scored on me. I was like, don't breathe
that much, like just said Jack. I was like, relaxed,
I didn't mean breathe like that.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Hey now yeah, supper out and men breathe. I was like, damn,
that is hilarious.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
I loved it though. I loved it though.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
Yeah, okay, Well, jumping back into the playoffs right now,
Aces are up to against the Wings, Liberty and Sun
are tied. What have you been liking in these first
few semi finals games?

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Because I feel like they've been a little all over
the place.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
They've been close and then yeah, have not been so close.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
But it's a lot.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Honestly, the Dallas Aces series surprised me more than anything
because Dallas has been so great all season long, and
they present like you want to talk about like bigs
in our league or slim pickings. They have like six
of them, all of them six five six five six
six seven six seven. I'm like, y'all is the mon
Stars and I love it. But for real, the Aces

(16:37):
are phenomenal, right, and the Asia is just playing on
a different level. Like even watching the game the other night,
I was like, the MVP thing gonna turn her up,
but seeing the look in her eye, that woman is
determined to win it back to back and you can
see it. So it's like who literally is going to
get in front of her and Stopper like who is
going to take it upon themselves? And so that Dallas
series is a little surprising. Saw two needs to get

(16:59):
herself going. That's the X factor for Dallas. It always
has been. She's the unicorn for that team. So playing
Sunday at home, Dallas is great at home. They're great
at home. Their arena is really hard to play, and
so I know that team. I know Rique like those
are some hoopers, so they're going to do anything in
their power to not get swept. As far as the
New York series, New York and Connecticut series, like that

(17:20):
is the series that I'm very investigate into because it
is so close, Like those two teams play each other
really well. New York obviously tied up the series one one.
I feel like Connecticut came out in that first game
in punch New York like it was it was a
wake up call for New York, like this is a
different series than our series with them.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Connecticut is a team that will literally.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Run through you to win a game. They don't care,
so you have to match their physicality, and I don't
think that New York did that in the first game.
But I will say the other night, New York came
out and I was so excited to see them match
that physicality because I didn't know if they could not.
Just me being honest with you, like that physicality that
Connecticut plays with is a different type of dog, and

(18:02):
I don't think people realize that. So I'm excited. Connecticut
is really hard to play it. They're great at home.
It's really hard to get a win in that building.
But New York is just a great team. I would
like to see Stewie get going. I would like to
see them get Stewie some easier touches early so she's
not shooting contested shots all the time. But other than that,
Benaja Lady has been the X factor for them. She's

(18:24):
not talked about enough. She has not talked about enough,
and it makes me so mad because you can have
those franchise players and we right, we love it.

Speaker 6 (18:31):
You.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
The only way that franchise players are franchise players is
if everyone else around them does their role, and naj
does her role to the best of her ability and
plays hard every single night. She brings it every single
night whether they have it or not. So I just
want to make sure I'll give a shout out to
her too, because she's playing phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
It's not just her offense, her defensive mentality that she has.
She's always mashed up, she's always matched up against like
that top wing on the other dam, and she applies
that pressure full court. She's physical and I'm like, girl,
you are a strong body.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yes, back up a little bit.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
It's just crazy, yeah court, yeah, exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
She just brings so much to that team. I think
like that dog.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
That she has in her brings New York to a
different level, getting on the glass, diving on the floor,
just being physical, especially with like Connecticut where you have
so many different options with you got Tip Hayes, you
got DV, you got like all these different looks that
they're able to bring.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Especially with Tip going off for thirty ball the other day.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
It's just like, that was amazing.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
She was hot and she's talking her stuff. She talked
about you can't guard me.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
All this other stuff. I was the game. I was like, oh, and.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
They kept zooming in on her mouth.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
They kept I loved. It was good. It was good.
People don't know we talked in our league. I think, yeah,
that like it's all coolb no, like we're no. But
when we step across those lines, like it's different. It's
a different ball game. But I'm glad that you brought
Tip up to because she's been another player that's just
been kind of She did her thing in Atlanta for years,

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but because Atlanta didn't necessarily get the attention that they
wanted at the time, like she wasn't necessarily pushed out there.
But her and beck Allen, Yeah, her and rebeccs factor
the X factor for Connecticut. The pickup of them in
the off season made Connecticut, who was already like a
championship team and was missing pieces news where they're missing pieces.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
So it's excited to see them playing so well right
now for them.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
Oh yeah, I completely agree. And Tip has the quickest
first step I have ever. When it's when I say,
you we played them in our I think we played
us preseason, and then we played them after somehow I
got matched up with her immediately, immediately Rip driving and
I stood there and I was like, I literally we
watched it in film and they're like, yeah, heyy you
just had to eat that one.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
You just got to eat.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
It like it's your first game. I'm like, I don't
even know what I'm doing right now.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
There is literally nothing you can do. But it's not
even her first step. So TIF always starts with a job.
So she's reading the defense like she is trying to
see what it is that you're going to do. But
what people don't give her credit for is her read
off of that job is ridiculous. If you don't step,
she's going, oh step, she's going the opposite way, and

(21:18):
that's where that first step becomes so dangerous. So Tip
is just a lead offensive score, and she always has
been since her Connecticut days. I think that she's going
to go crazy in this series against New York, especially
because she already found her confidence. She's play that once
she finds it. It's not leaving. Oh, tell me about it.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
After that first job she got me, I put on
somebody else.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
She was like, bring that ball back.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
I mean, like I said, relax, I said, big al
you better go get her, let me get somebody else.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Or like, let me just force it into the ball
screen now. And y'all got to help you that way.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah, We're gonna figure it out a different way because.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
I was hot. Yeah, that first step is lethal.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
But I mean in this playoffs right now, we have
so many heavy hitters. We have all three of that
MVP he raised and Stuwie ended up getting it.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
But okay, so.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
My prediction prior I always laid it out and first
of all three of some of the most amazing players
we've ever seen. All of them are having these stellar
seasons as they all always do, and so I was.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Like, Okay, Asia gonna do her. We gonna do her.
But for me, at having a season like this where.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
You're averaging almost a triple double and you're doing it
on a team where Bionna Jones, who's an All Star
goes out, Connecticut would not be where Connecticut is without
At doing what she's doing. And so I've always been
like you know, Stewie and Asia amazing.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Anything ALB seasons. But you take Asia and Stewie off
of those teams. You can talk about Kelsey.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
Jack, Chelsea, right, you just go on and on exactly,
but you take a t off of Connecticut and the
value that she brings there is it's uncomparable exactly. So
that's always been my argument. But back to you, it
seems like we have a similar point.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Of view going we do. We do, I think because
we both appreciate underdogs too, right of, Like there is
no hate to Stewie, Like Stewie is extremely deserving.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
If Asia would have won it, she's extremely deserving.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
What a time for our league that we have three
candidates that had phenomenal last seasons to be like even
in the in the mix where but I had the
same sentiments. What Alica Thomas has done this season we
have never seen in this league, never st We've seen
it before. Like I'm not I'm not taking no knockoff
of that because what they are able to do right

(23:40):
now and the efficiency that they are playing at two
all season like that is something to be said. But again,
if you take at off the Connecticut, they are not
in the semi finals. Yeah, they're not even I don't
even know if for real, Like, if they would.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I'm gonna say they would be.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
In the playoffs because dB is still tough, Like they
have other pieces right and TIF and back.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
But at is QB one. She is defender one.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
She is like she has triple double, all of it.
I don't know if y'all understand how hard it is
to have a triple double. Oh my god. And on
two torn shoulder labrooms.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
That's all this on two torn shoulder labrooms.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
That's what I'm saying, like two torn laboroms.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Right.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
First of all, I didn't even like know that until
a few years ago, and I was like, Pa, you're
doing what?

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, people be trying to flame her for a shot.
I'm like, if y'all only knew she has two torn And.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Then you take that into account, she's doing all of this,
no three balls, your three balls, triple dubs, no three balls.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
It's like you to guard her exactly.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
And then on top of that, you're doing it from
a forward position, and then you take Breanda Jones out
of the equation. She's kind of playing the center and
their starting lineup, so for you to be for you
to be averaging a triple dub playing the center is insane.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
You're out here, big T.

Speaker 7 (24:56):
Giving her triple dub, grabbing rebounds, whatever, and doing your
damn thing like doing it at such an elite level
every single night.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
There hasn't been like an off moment for At. And
what sucks is that even I experienced it. I had
never been voted on to an All Defensive team until
like maybe twenty one, I want to say, and the
only reason that I feel like I got voted in
is because I started going off in my media interviews
after I'm like, y'all gonna start talking about me. Y'all

(25:26):
are going to start talking about me, because if you're
not going to do it, I'm going to advocate for myself.
And I feel like At started to do that this
season because it's like, what more do I need to
do for y'all for y'all to give me my flowers?
And I'm tired of hearing that At is not marketable.
I'm tired of hearing that she's not one of the
bigger fits. She is. She is, but At is very

(25:46):
much just the low key. She stays out of the way.
She knows who she is, she's confident who she is,
and she does her job every single night. She shouldn't
have to advocate for herself. So that's the frustrating part
within like the voting or around our league is like
there is bias the fact that someone gave Wilson and
I am determined to figure out. I am the truth,

(26:08):
figure out who gave Angel Wilson that fourth place, because
you got to see me and that's not even my
teammate the way you gotta see me, the way you
are literally taking my questions as it's so don't get
me going.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
The following questions were, who are the voters the fourth place?

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Who is voting?

Speaker 3 (26:27):
I want the media who gave me vote?

Speaker 1 (26:30):
The media? The media, which is which is crazy to me,
Like I'm it's no hate, Like, let me say this,
the people that cover our league, we love y'all because
there is so many different media outlets that still don't
want to be a part of our league, that don't
want to It is crazy to me. So I do
appreciate the people that do like cover our league as

(26:52):
our media people. But with that being said, y'all bullshit
because you're biased. You truly have to go into voting
at Switzerland. So with a lot of our media, even
for me, I'm friends with some of our media, Like
I won't go out, I will be out and about
with them, I'll hike out with them. You're naturally going
to have a bias towards your friends, and I think

(27:13):
that happens a lot within our voting also, like personal biases.
You might have been a Yukon fan and you don't
like South Carolinia, so that's why Asia got a fourth
place vote like that, to me, that's just the pettiness
and the bullshit that I feel like if we if
we just put out there what media personnel voted and
who they voted for, the same as the NBA does,

(27:35):
it takes away that bullshit voted. And I know a
lot of media because Courtney Williams had tweeted that the
other day and some media had come back and been like, no,
there's no one more biased than players. No, I feel
like there's no one more brutally honest than us as players,
Like I agree, I'm.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
Playing against you, so like yeah, here giving me buckets.
I gotta respect you, no matter if my feelings about
you personally, I respect you because of your play.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
I just feel like, as a whole, if we voted
like the people AT would have been voted at MVP.
If our league voted like, if players voted, coaches voted,
I really do feel like At would have worn because
we see her, we all are in some way being like,
you know what, damn like at some point you got
to give this girl her flowers before it's too late, right,
So I mean it is what it is, a game.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
I like, congrats to Stewie and all of this.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
I don't ever want to take away from Stuwie and
the player that she is. And unfortunately I don't think
that's what the media understands is because they vote with bias.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Now Stewie gets looked at like, oh.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
You didn't deserve this, no no, no, no no, you played
a phenomenal season. You deserve this. But what At is
doing on the other side has never been done in
our women's game ever.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
Yeah, I agree, And I mean, just talking about the
media biases and who gets coverage x y Z, I
feel like we have a lot of underrated players in
our leagues.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
That don't get talked about.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
Talking about people like you, people like At, who's having
empty Calber season, but you just don't see her in
the media as you do other players. So who do
you feel like we're some standout underrated players in the
W this year?

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Well, I love that question first and foremost. Courtney Williams
for Chicago.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Courty is wasn't a point guard until this year.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, and played amazing in that role.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
You want to talk about triple doubles like I as
an eight year point guard, I haven't had a triple
double yet. Like I've been closed, I've been on the cusp.
Courtney is another person that has had multiple triple doubles
and doing it with a team that their coach left,
their players got hurt. You have again, you want to
talk about starters going down, you have Rebecca Gardner and
Izzy Harrison that go down and you have to figure

(29:40):
out how to now play a season without them. I
really do feel like Courtney went crazy this year. I'll
say my teammate, Slim. I want to say Slim doesn't
get them big one. That's probably my number one. That's
probably my number one is Slim, obviously because there might
be a little bit of bias with me. But the

(30:00):
bias comes because I see the work that she puts in. Yeah,
I see the work that she puts on it on
both ends of the floor too, Like, I don't think
we give two way players enough credit in this league.
There is Yeah, there's a lot of offense, and people
love offense and offenses flashy, but like there's something about
a player that's going to hoop on both ends of
the floor that like, I just love I love that.

(30:22):
Alicia Gray Lisha Gray is another one. So happy for
her with that move out of Dallas and just being
appreciated and valued for who she is and what she brings.
That was really special. Cheyenne Parker is another one, like
a super mom. Oh no, Fisa, let's talk about another superman?
Yeah yeah, Like Nefisa is another player that I feel

(30:42):
like probably should have been the fourth person talked about
in MVP. Yeah caliber season, Like she really did have
an amazing season. We don't talk enough about moms when
they come back from actually having kids and how hard
that is, Oh my god, crazy, Like it is crazy.
So I want to make sure I give a shout
out to her. Kelsey Mitchell is another player that people

(31:04):
don't talk about and I hate that shit because she
is a phenomenal, phenomenal player, even better person. I want
to say, Leah Boston, she surprised me. I'm not gonna
lie to you. Yeah, yeah it dizy. She had an
amazing year. And I don't say surprised in the sense
of I just never played against her, so like the
first time I'm seeing her, I'm like, girl, you are
six five for real, Like you is a legit surreal.

(31:28):
You are strong, your footwork, your ability to just read
where the rebound is going to be, your ability to
oh god, like I really was. Then coming in as
a rookie and doing it, like you're getting double teams
thrown at you, You're getting shit talk to you. You're
coming in with a target on your back because you
are one of the top players coming out of college. Like,

(31:48):
I feel like that's something you need to talk about,
Like how does that feel coming out of college being like,
you know what, we're top players, so we definitely have
targets from them, vets being like welcome.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yeah, it's definitely an adjustment because you have a target
in college obviously, but it's different.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
You're a senior.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
You're a senior. You're all America doing this and that,
So it's like you're like, what I've been through this,
Like it's fine, who's gonna match up with me? And
then you get to the league and it's like, okay, Olympian,
I look you my whole life at a posterview and
now you're over here like, oh you're the rook I'm
gonna show you what's up, and it's like all right.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
So yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
So it's definitely an adjustment coming in and you already
have all these expectations for yourself. If it's like, Okay,
I'm a tough draft pick, I want this happen.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
I want to be like this for my team.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
It's just an adjustment coming in where it's the pace,
the skill level, all these different things. That mental adjustment
that you have to make is different. Thinking of other
underrated players. One that really comes to my mind is
Jordan Canada had an amazing, amazing year because she was
in Seattle for so long and you're playing under Sue,
and then when Sue was hurt, she had this huge season.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
It's different coming to LA where they also had a
lot of injuries this year.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
All of a sudden, you know, she's this amazing point
guard and talking about two way players somebody like slim.
She was picking up full court, cool game, locking down,
taking her defensive assignment. So seriously, the speed that she
plays with, the pace, it's never ending. And so I
think she had an amazing year. And the other one
also on la Azara Stevens. Oh my gosh, she was

(33:22):
a sleeper for me. I never really played against her
or watched her like that, and I was just z
is tough. All of a sudden I matched up and
I'm like, what is going on? Like why are you
pulling it in my face?

Speaker 1 (33:31):
And then get me down.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
I'm like, let's Relax's crazy.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
She doesn't get the KDS comparisons that she should, like
when you were talking about a KD very like similar
player is six what probably like six' five six sixty six,
Tall nike, skinny but like, strong her, footwork her, Versatility
she's a guard in a post player's. Body, yeah which is.
Crazy it's. So but Also i'm glad you brought Up

(34:00):
jordan Because jordan has always been that, defensive like crazy,
person but where her game truly truly took off with
her offense this. Year, yeah and just being, confident AND
i want to give a shout out to athletes unlimit
it BECAUSE i truly felt like the first year WHEN
i played in that AND i came, back it was
LIKE i fell in love with the game of basketball
again because we were just, hooping, Right, yeah you can

(34:21):
find your self confidence. Again it's, like, NO i really
am this player THAT i. KNOW i like that and,
yeah Like i'm like. THAT i think the same thing
happened For jordan this. Year she found her confidence in
au when she carried that shit over To, la, like
this is my, spot this is my. Spot i'm not losing,
it And i'm going to do it to the best
of my, ability And i'm going to put you back
on the map.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
That i've always been this.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Player And jordan is such a sweet human being, too
So i'm.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Very Genuine, no she's.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
AMAZING i think a lot of people just had great
growth seasons this. Year you can go on and out
about that most improved race was all over the place
because so many hat these breakout.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Years, yeah really. SPECIAL i was, LIKE i don't even
know who. Pick, honestly for, Me saw has always been this,
player but, obviously like knowing that she's battled through, injuries
through not playing majority of the. Seasons it was really
good to see her win and just get those flowers
because she really did have a crazy. Season.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
Yeah but turning it towards you a little bit in
your early basketball career growing, up was basketball like was
that your? Thing or who put the ball in your?
Hands why? Basketball tell me about?

Speaker 2 (35:24):
It so basketball wasn't always my.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
THING i was clearly like if you watch, me if
you watch our social, MEDIA i am. Hyper like this
has always been this like. Hyper i'm thirty one and
people are, like there's no way you're thirty one because
of how you. Act i'm, like, yeah the kid never left.
Me like, Yeah so my mom and dad blessed their
hearts for having to deal with my hyper ass as a.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Kid but they were, like you're playing every.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Sport SO i would literally go from like soccer to
football to softball to. Basketball but it was just like
whenever they could do, that by the time we got
home at, NIGHT i would just.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Crash that's what they want.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
One SO i started basketball late around probably. Twelve and
my Aunt don who is A hall Of famer from
where we grew up In Delaware, county in basketball and,
softball she just was the role model for. Me she
made it okay for me to be a, tomboy be
confident in, it to be really good at, sports to be,
strong and like see my strength as beauty and not as, like,

(36:23):
oh you're too masculine or, whatever you know people want
to talk shit. About SO i feel LIKE i really
did have great women role models in my. Life BUT
i wanted to be like. HER i wanted to be
like my. Cousins they played. Basketball that's WHY i took
the number, fifteen because it was their, number and THEN
i just fell in love with. It AND i growing

(36:44):
up in a middle class, family right that my dad's
working two jobs to keep a roof over our head
and food on the.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Table LIKE i knew basketball was my way.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Out AND i feel like a lot of people that
look like us that is the, case and so understanding
THAT i could go get a college degree THAT i
wouldn't be able to afford, elsewise THAT i can potentially
Gory and OBVIOUSLY i didn't Know i'm a mid major,
kid So i'm like THE. Wnba they're not even necessarily
like on my. Radar it's just, like how CAN i

(37:12):
put myself in the best position moving forward through this
game That god has given me like this, beautiful beautiful.
Game and you, know THEN i go To Saint. JOE'S
i start going crazy And i'm like hold, on like we're.
Playing like we Played maryland after the YEAR i transferred
out Of, maryland beat. Them they were top five in
the country at the. Time Played syracuse When slim was on.
There we lost by. One so we were playing all

(37:33):
these top teams in the. Country went To Notre dame
only lost by like, seven and in THAT i was,
like oh, NO i can do. This i'm guarding at
Like i'm Guarding. Slim i'm guarding all these players that
are top prospects for the draft next. SEASON i think
within that the mystics started coming to watch, me and
that was so exciting for. Me like a mid major,

(37:56):
kid an, underdog someone that's always been told like you're,
good but you're not good. Enough that was really special for.
Me so that was the only, team the only team
that looked at, me that believed in, me and was
the fifteenth.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Draft that number fifteen is good to.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
ME i was the fifteenth pick of the twenty fifteen
draft And i've been IN dc ever.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Since so, YEAH i mean it's amazing to hear you
talk about growing, up you play all these different, sports
you find this love of, basketball you have this amazing role.
Model but you, know you start At maryland and then
you transfer To Saint. Joe's so what was that process
like Choosing? Maryland AND i know transferring is a hard
thing and you don't know what's coming. Next you're, like
you envisioned yourself at a, school this life that you're can.

(38:36):
Have so, yeah what was a transfer process like going
from a power five to a mid?

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Major still hooping on that.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Level, Yeah so the high school THAT i played, For cardin,
o'hier we were number one in the country at one
point WHEN i was in high. School, yeah little two.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
State, SHIPS i see, You, okay we like.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
It but BECAUSE i played on such an amazing, team
like we had all Five division one, place and so
that got me the looks THAT i truly needed to
coming out of high. School So, maryland it JUST i
fell in love with it the minute THAT i went to,
campus the minute THAT i got.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Around the, team going to a, game seeing the, environment the.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Atmosphere and two those that don't know like my background,
Stories i'm the only. Mix i'm the youngest of. Five
i'm the only mixed RACE i. Am my whole entire
family is. White my o'hia was. White like my entire
upbringing is very. White SO i never got to necessarily
tap into my blackness UNTIL i went To. Maryland and

(39:34):
that's WHY i, truly truly Loved maryland so much was
because of the diversity that it. Included SO i really
found my blackness WHEN i went To, maryland and that
was such a cool feeling for. Me but at the same, time,
TOO i don't feel LIKE i was getting the respect
THAT i deserved That maryland. Either AND i say that
with Like maryland being such a huge part of WHO i.
Am LIKE i, KNOW i was only there for a,

(39:55):
year but it was such a huge part in my
development as a player and standing WHO i, was and
obviously as an eighteen year old going off into college
for your first. Time my grandfather got sick and then
my sister got, sick and that was really hard for.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Me when you talk about basketball is and it, is,
yes it is.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
A priority in our, life but my family comes first
and foremost, always so being two hours away that was
really really hard for me during that. Time so going
and transferring back To Saint, joe's which was twenty five
minutes from my, house and my family and my grandfather
got the opportunity to watch me for four more years in,
college and my sister being able to be there for

(40:35):
her and my oldest, niece like that was really important for.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Me so that was the best. DECISION i just took
a leap of.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
FAITH i knew That god had would always provide regardless
of my. Decision but WHEN i Left, MARYLAND i remember
one of the coaches being, like that might be it
for YOUR wnba, dream AND i was, LIKE i would.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Say it's all, right bet understood it.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Was it wasn't the very day BECAUSE i was, LIKE
i hear.

Speaker 8 (40:58):
You but at the end of the, day if that doesn't,
happen Then god didn't have it in my plans to begin.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
With BUT i know, that, like this is What he
has set for me.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Now so when had a great four, years but the
transfer process wasn't easy at. All HOW i even ended
up transferring back To Saint. JOSE i Remember Saint jose
recruited me out of high school AND i was like absolutely, not,
No i'm going Like i'm going somewhere. Else, LIKE i
want to go away from home all this, Stuff and

(41:27):
IF i would have chose a college out of high
school would have Been. Nova IF i would have chose
a local like, college it would have been going. OVER
i JUST i loved. It it was they have the men,
seen they have, football they have a women's basketball team
that gets like all the, perks the, bells the, whistles.
Like it was just a really cool. School but WHEN
i went, HOME i did AN sjau camp just for extra.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Money you, Know i'm just home for the, summer so why.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Not WHEN i tell, YOU i felt more comfortable in
that locker room with that team THAN i ever did
for that full year THAT i was At. MARYLAND i was,
like this is Where i'm supposed to. Be, yeah this
is Where i'm supposed to. Be AND i had a
friend that WAS i had played against her in high
school when she was actually on the, Team Aaron, shields
so that immediately started talking and went. HOME i cried

(42:11):
to my. MOM i was, like let me go To Saint,
John let me go To. John it's like it's. Okay
so that was just to have the support of my parents,
too and just understanding that family came, First but, yeah
there was a lot of people that were, like you're,
dumb you shouldn't do, this or leaving A bcs school for,
why like just work, Harder And i'm, like people have no.

(42:33):
Idea SO i came. In there was already a senior point,
guard there was a sophomore point.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Guard then there was.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Me then we Recruited Lexi brown after. Me that was my.
Recruit we Recruited lexi and we Recruited brene, Mostly and
So i'm, like there is six point. Guards, yeah you
think That i'm. Playing SO i feel like over the
last few, years people have been talking shit about how
much kids, transfer but it's like you do not know
what the situation is at that. School, yeah and my

(43:01):
little experience At maryland was one THAT i. Needed but
it wasn't sweet, Either like it was really hard for.
Me it was really hard to feel LIKE i was
already being put into that villain role at eighteen When i'm,
Like i'm just trying to figure out, life, like, so,
yeah it was the best decision for. Me so for, kids,
like you really have to sit with what is best for,

(43:21):
you not best for anyone, else best for, you your
family and your. Journey, no you're completely.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
RIGHT i think the transfer, portal it's there's two sides to.
It were on one.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
Side it could be, like you, know a kid is
Like i'm not, Playing i'm gonna, leave.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Right there are some of the stories like.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
That but on the other, SIDE i feel like there's
more stories where it's like you talked about that feeling
that you had At Saint joe's where you get along
with the, girls there's that come. RON i think you
don't realize how much the people you're surrounded by are
going to, experience like just influence that experience that you're gonna.
Have and so you, know it just wasn't your. People
you didn't feel comfortable all these different. Things now you
Say joe's that allows you to, Thrive oh so many different.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Ways it's like this my, Game i'm ready to.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
DO i was at a.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
World, yeah it's just like a different type of vibe
that it brings.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
You SO i think it's. Amazing and you have to
play in front of your, family LIKE i know, Exactly
LIKE i know how important that it. Is stanford is
an hour away from home for, me my to come
in to my, Games like it's just a different.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Vibe really is it really, is like it really. Is
people don't understand how hard it is to be a professional.
ATHLETE i understand that we get paid a lot of
money to do what we do in a short amount of,
time but people don't understand what we put ourselves. Through
what we.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Sacrifice more than anything is the time with our.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Family LIKE i have nieces and nephews THAT i missed
half their childhood from devoting myself to this. Game and
even like my nephews are older, now and my one
nephew after my game In New, york he send me
like this. Paragraph this is this paragraph about like how
you're a role, model how much we look up to.
You like all this STUFF i saw like a, baby

(44:56):
because oh it means the. World it means the. World
and like my text backt him was LIKE i know
THAT i have been gone for a long since of
time and all these. Things and obviously you make time
for your family when you can and make you have
to make, time and you have to make sure that
you're giving you your family. Attention but at the same time,
Too i'm, like this is WHY i do, It LIKE

(45:16):
i don't only play for. MYSELF i very much play
for our, family like AND i very much hope That
i've made you all proud through this experience with, me
because you very much are carried through everything THAT i.
DO i know my. Why my family is my. Why
when it shit hits the fan and stuff starts going
crazy like that is my go to saying is know your,

(45:37):
why because when you know your, why who you're doing it, for,
what you're doing it for nothing the adversity along the,
way it can't knock you off your track because that's
what keeps you locked.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
In you're completely, right that support system is, everything the
ups and, downs trials and, tribulations and just like there's
going to be so many other people because of the
profession that we're, in everybody feels as though they have
an opinion on who we are and how we perform
all these different. Things but for me having the understanding,
that like the opinions that matter to, me the PEOPLE
i do it for are my, family and those are

(46:05):
the people that you have to listen to because you
get caught up x Y, z which has definitely happened
to me.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Before and it's just it's a slippery see.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Too it's hard that, Shit, yeah it's really hard to
ignore all that. Stuff i'm sure you see on the
social media all the, Time like there are points where
Like i'll have a bad game AND i won't go
on social media, because, oh you don't want to see
all the shit y'all.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Talking, no because it's like we already, know we're so.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
ANALYTICAL i already, know, MA'AM i already know something that because,
lord so you talked a little bit about your draft,
experience fifteenth pick early in the second round and The
mystics being the only team that reach. Out so what

(46:49):
was that draft day experience like where it's, like you,
know you only talk to The mystics and it's, like
are they going to take?

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Me are you going to pull the? Plug are you?

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Not how was that draft?

Speaker 4 (46:59):
Like and being so little roster spots as you headed
into the, league the nerves coming in, out having those
vets on the, TEAM.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
I could have thrown up the whole, Day like the whole,
day AND i was so happy THAT i decided.

Speaker 8 (47:12):
TO i just am a, homebody LIKE i just wanted
to experience that moment with my family more so than,
anyone like my parents and my grandparents because they sacrificed
so much for me to.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Be able to be WHERE i was in that, moment
and my parents had the whole team, over like the
Whole Saint joe's team over our. House we had like
a team, dinner and then we had the draft. Up,
unfortunately my grandfather are going into the hospital the same,
day so he wasn't able to be at the house with.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Us but it was just LIKE i couldn't even eat.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
People my mom was, like are you gonna? EAT i
was like, NO i Think i'm literally LIKE i can't
eat anything right. Now i'm. Nervous i'm, sweating like feel my,
palms my armpits are, nasty like over, here another shower.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Here i'm, like it's.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Embarrassing but then you have all the pressure of like
everyone's watching you, too which is, cool but it's, like,
yeah Like i'm already nervous, enough you don't have to
put a pressure on.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Me and then just to see my, NAME i will say.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
THIS i know the w has gotten better at the
draft of like the second round, picks BUT i didn't
even like hear my name. Announced it was just like
it popped up on the bottom of the screen Like
washington mystic Select Natasha cloud and we just went. Crazy
my parents start. Crying well THEN i start crying because
my parents are. Crying my siblings are all, There like
it was just a really really cool. Experience and when everyone,

(48:29):
Left i'm so thankful to the hospital because they actually
let me go see my grandfather pass like visiting, hours
and that's WHEN i really felt. It LIKE i can
remember going into this hospital room and like literally just
falling on his chest and crying and being like we did.
It like he was so. Excited he was telling all
the nurses like they got from me WHEN i came.
In but just to be able to share that moment

(48:51):
with your family that has seen you go through like
all the, ups all the, downs like you, said the
trials and. Tribulations they watched me be Told i'm good
not good, Enough like to have this moment just kind
of come to to. Existence that's just such a surreal
and you know it from your experience. Too it is
such a surreal moment for all your work and sacrifice

(49:11):
over the past however ninety, years to pay off in
that very little, moment it becomes.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
Massive oh, yeah it's so hard to explain when people
ask what it feels like because you've put in so
much time and sharing it with the people who have
seen you go through, it all the people who got
you started with.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
Basketball, yeah so.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
Special like WHEN i got my name CALLED i THINK
i blacked. OUT i don't really remember what, Happened LIKE
i watched the video, MYSELF i, hope SO i THOUGHT
i was gonna, Fall LIKE i hear my name called?

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Blackout, oh, mom, dad, Brother i'm.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
CRYING i THINK i Hugged, KATHY i talked To holly
Like i'm just walking and it was just such a
blur and then you think about it later and it's
like this really, Happened like that was the. PINNACLE i
don't remember any of. IT i have a, video couldn't
tell you that it was me or. Not it's like
when you watch film and you throw to all these
turnovers and you're, like who is that out?

Speaker 3 (50:04):
There that's not me, saying because that's not me exactly
what you.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
Felt so it's such a surreal experience and so to
hear that you had to share that with the people
closest to, you And i'm sure your teammates.

Speaker 6 (50:15):
Were just going, crazy like it's just a wilderience because
it's just like it doesn't happen that often for mid majors,
Either so for them to like experience that with me
and they still, Come like my college teammates still come
to games all every.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Summer they make it a point to. Come we still hang,
out we still get.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Together so like those relationships that we established in, college
those are lifeball, friendships relationships that will just carry you,
through right because we don't talk about college. Basketball that
ship is.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Hard what it's, like it's trauma bonding on some.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
LEVEL i always about to, say they break you down
to build you, up and that's the breakdown point isn't.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Fun i'm like the Break.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
I'm like, you all, right, okay we're. Here is this
rock bottom you feel like?

Speaker 4 (51:00):
It college is a lot and there'd have to be
a different episode we dedicate to.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
College but, okay.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
It is such a time and then you get to
the league and it's this crazy. Adjustment so it really
is what what was that period like for you as
you get to training, camp you get to the. League
they said that was there kind of a rookie wall
that you would say you hit that you had to
push through an adjust to feel comfortable in the.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
League SO i will say WHEN i WHEN i came,
in even THOUGH i was. Drafted you, know as as
a draft, pickle you stuff to earn your. Spot no.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Guarantees people don't know there's not.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
There is no, Guarantees so you stuff to earn your.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Spot SO i very much went into that training camp
LIKE i need to bust, everybody including the people that
have already been on this. Team but, again it's another.
Level so high school to college is a different. Level
college to pros is a different. Level AND i wouldn't
even say like college to overseas and overseas to THE
w is a whole other. Level. Yeah, so and as
a point, guard you're hitting the ground running like it

(51:58):
was my rookie, moment like my first. Year it's just
like we have twenty plays in this. PLAYBOOK i have
to remember all of. THEM i have to be able
to put you and be confident enough as a twenty
three year old to tell a thirty one year old
yes to the? Block, Hm hey do you, Mind like
maybe if you're free going.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
To that, block excuse, me if you had the time
of your, DAY i would really.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Appreciate and it's not just like learning the place for.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
Yourself the thing that got me that t gets on
me about is you have to know the, plays but
you have to know where everybody else is on top of,
That LIKE i have to know what Actions ryan, likes
what Action alicia, likes WHERE ct wants the, ball AND.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
I have to know all This And i'm like.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
All of that What you're, Like i'm on. OVERLOAD i
just brought myself to the game. Today that was a
win for. Me that was a win for.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Me i'm, Here, YES i made it, here be, proud give.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Me, YEAH i will SAY i feel LIKE i didn't
necessarily have like two over well BECAUSE i was, Playing
like that was the THING i think that. WAS i
was surprised THAT i was, playing SO i DIDN'T i didn't.
Start but midway through my rookie, SEASON i become a
starter And i'm, like, yeah what we? HAVE i re

(53:13):
lot on our, team like we Have carol loss and
it's like you want me to start? Me so that was.
Hard BUT i think my biggest like is me being.
Honest my third, year we started making trades in the
off season and because we were Acquiring elena And, christy
AND i was TERRIFIED i was over In australia like, stressing, stressing, stressing,

(53:36):
stressing BECAUSE i was, LIKE i think my name might
be on the chopping, block like no one is safe
when it comes to acquiring big names like. That so
that moment for me really put things into a lot of.
Perspective and that's actually WHEN i reached out to our
sports site for the first time of, like, Hey i'm
dealing with a lot of anxiety surrounding these trades and
Whether i'm going to remain IN dc or not and

(53:58):
being able to like really just own. It and that
trade refocused me Like, okay that was a wake up, call, like,
no this shit really does. Happen SO i have to
figure out how to do my role to the best
of my ability that they cannot bring me off the.
Floor on top of, it how DO i make myself
into a fan favorite so you cannot move? Me, yep

(54:21):
you can and you are and you. Are, Okay i'm,
like but that very much just leaning into like my
personality and WHO i am as a, person LIKE i
just want people to see IF i can just bring
a little al to light to.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
People that's a word for. Me so that year, three the.
Trades that was a lot of.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Things in the perspective for, ME i was, LIKE i
got to get my stuff together on both ends of the.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
Floor, yeah, well just talking about. Trades nobody's safe in this,
league all this different. Stuff you acquire.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
A hall Of Famer elena del dun, right what is That?

Speaker 4 (54:51):
Like you come back From australia and now you have
more amazing players with.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
You what is that?

Speaker 4 (54:56):
Like working somebody of that caliber into the, team being a,
guard learning how to play with somebody like, that the,
tendencies all these different.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Things what is that? Experience?

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Like it has been the greatest blessing to my career
to play alongside Of Lada. Dela she is, truly TRULY
i don't care what people are saying after this, season
Like i'll get into that, later but this is to,
me this is the best player in the entire. WORLD
i played with her for six years AND i got
to witness and experience her, greatness and not only experience

(55:28):
her greatness on the, court but experience her humbleness and
her heart off the. Court AND i think sometimes WHICH
i love our, league BECAUSE i feel like a lot
of the franchise players are like very just dope and
down to, earth, Right but you do have some of
those franchise players that you're, like, wow, okay have you
lost touch with? Reality because we're here On, Earth we're, here.

(55:52):
Okay i've never had that From alena now once in
my six years of playing with.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Her it's always been.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
About, yeah LIKE i know WHO i am for, us
but this IS i only go as you, GO i
only go as we. Go and SO i had to quickly, learn,
like this is the best, player where do you need the?
Ball like asking little things about where do you need the,
ball place for your shot, pocket like those are big
things when it comes to players like. That so because
she's so, versatile because she's so great at what she,

(56:18):
does she's able to extend to the, three past the
THREE nba, three she's able to shoot off the, dribble
she can post up on the. Block she just has
such versatility to her. Game it literally makes my job
as a point guard so freaking. Easy so even a
lot of my, accolades What i've been able to do
in my career are literally a direct correlation To Elena,
deladon And i'm so thankful for. That but it got

(56:41):
to a point where it was just like it Was
batman And, Robin like people really referred to us As
batman And robin because you could not stop us in
the pick and. Roll like, Yeah and regardless Of elena
was involved in the offense or, not LIKE i was
always going to find. Her and it became a point
to where, like, statistically IF i was off the, Court
elena's numbers went like tremendously opposed to WHEN i was

(57:02):
actually on the court with her and talking about how
hard it is to get to this, league but stay
in this, league like you have to find what you
do and do it. WELL i did, that which that
made a franchise player be, Like i'm not playing with
any other point. Guard this is my point. Guard that
solidified my role IN dc for however many more.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Years so it really has been A Batman robin.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Thing i've been blessed to be able to play with
the best player in the, world one of the most
humble players in the entire. World and it really is
sad to see how people approach her. Now and it's
not even, sad Like i'll fight about her LIKE i
will fight About, elena AND i don't know one could,
ever ever ever go through what this woman went through

(57:46):
three back. Surgeries she WON us a championship on three
herniated disc in her. Back we were literally shooting this
girl up with medicine before our.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Games and she might not tell, y'all But i'm telling.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Y'all because it's just not fair the backlash that she receives,
Now like to go into a major surgery like a
back surgery and your, doctor fuck it, up your doctor
that you went, to that you entrusted with your, career your,
life your longevity of just like you got to go
back in now something's else. Wrong you got to go
back in and then your. Recovery, hayley she gets to

(58:20):
the gym at six am every. Morning it doesn't leave
till six. Pm and that has been her last three.
Years not only DO i have to go through back,
surgery at the back, surgery at the back. Surgery, now
anyone that's ever been through a major injury and has come,
back you know how hard that is, physically, mentally, emotionally
spiritually to do that three, times and then to be

(58:43):
a franchise player that's expected to be who she, is
to get the backlash that she gets people talking shit,
like oh she should just. Retire are you out of
your fucking? Mind, yeah because even with all that, Happening
elena was still able to come back this season and
put up her average, numbers and that's without. Practicing she
did not. Practice so it's like she's going to rehab her,

(59:05):
ankle she's going to rehab her, back and then we
throw her into the game and this girl is averaging
twenty points in this. Game, like that's insane to. Me
So Elena doldon is one of the most special players
that has ever played this. Game SO i love that
girl through and. Through it's been a blessing to play alongside,
her And we've done some really great things together That
i'm really proud of.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
Too oh, YEAH i, mean just to hear the passion
that you speak About elena, way, YEAH.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
I, think oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
YEAH i, mean like it is so special when you
have a bond with a team and eate like, that
because it's also just like who she is as a.
Player to come back from an injury after surgery is
already hard, enough but a back surgery is something the
back surgeries and you're limited for the rest of your
life to have three and continue to come back and
go through what she's been, through and then you're like you,

(59:53):
said An All star.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Season is, insane and it is.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
INSANE i feel like across the league we all treat
her with that. Respect it's the outside world that's, like oh,
this and that they don't see the scout that we
have to put together for that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Woman it's even it's.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Intense elena could shoot zero shots and she is still
the primary target every defensive.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
Scheme, yes and it's just like it's not like you're
going to take something. Away it's make it, hard make it.
Difficult and that's how it's amazing to see what she's.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Done like, YOU i think you put it very.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
Great she's one of the best players to ever play this,
game AND i think for her to be disrespected as she,
is and even last year coming out and talking ABOUT
i remember it was last, year but it was some
year she was talking about in her, interviews just not
getting foul, calls getting that it's all comes from, That,
yeah she doesn't, ever it's coming from that level of
respect that people need to have for, her which is just.
Different but you talked about what she did for you

(01:00:48):
in your, career but also the mystics organization in twenty,
nineteen you as come in and you have that championship
run and you as, women which is. AMAZING i remember
Watching that's. Crazy that's WHEN i graduated high, school and it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Was just like watching you, guys don't do that to.
Me don't do that to. ME i, like.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
Damn watching watching how the city got behind you, Guys
just like the influence that you guys had that year
on THE bnba was.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Incredible so talk.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
Me through that final, suite just that whole, year how
that season. Went because when she came into twenty seventeen
and then all of a, sudden you guys win two years,
later it's an insane turnaround to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Have it's in a same turnaround and we almost fucked
around and one the year, before but we just had
a Better seattle.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Team and they were crazy that year.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Too oh why? Crazy they still Had Stuie Tash Sue
Alicia clark, like, yeah it's like this is, unfair, bro
we no matter what we do on, defense like you
have a counter to. Everything so when we lost in twenty,
eighteen we sat in that locker room and after the coaches,
left we were, like, Essentially seattle is the version of
ourselves that we want to. Be we're not there. Yet

(01:01:55):
we just saw that we're not there, yet but we're right. There,
yeah you can't of us leaves this locker room and
approaches this offseason to get one percent better and to
bring that back to this. Team we're gonna win a
championship the next. Year so the whole off season we all,
like you, know it's hard to stay you, know, see
it's hard to stay attached to your teammates and the
off season like overseas and life and everything's going. On

(01:02:20):
we all stayed so attached to that off season and
it was constantly run it, back run it, back like
when you're playing like pickup and you get scored, up
run that shit back. Like so that's very much what
our mindset was going into that twenty nineteen, season and
all of us did what we said we were going to.
Do we came back one percent. Better so that whole training,
camp LIKE i can't tell you we came.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
IN i was, like we look scary.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Good we Have Elena. Della our start in five was
Me christy Ariel, Atkins Elena della, Down LaToya, sanders Which
LaToya sanders our coach she doesn't get the credit that she.
Deserves she was our anchor for everything that. Year off
our bench Is Emma. Mesa, men that's.

Speaker 7 (01:03:04):
Crazy off the wild you have An All, star you
have one of the best players to ever played in
the w and doesn't get the respect that she deserves
either coming off our.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Bench so we were just we were.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Scary And i'm telling, You i've never felt more confident
than that. Season it didn't matter what game we went,
into it didn't matter who we were. FACING i was,
like we're gonna. Win so we set all these, records
we sat all these offensive, records all THESE wnba records
as the, Season but in our locker, room we had
this biggest target on our. Back but in our locker,
room pressure is the, Privilege like this is exactly where

(01:03:40):
we wanted to, be this is exactly what we set
out to. Do pressure is the. Privilege seeing the aces
in the semi final that was. Scary that was scary
Because liz it was a really good. Matchup took it
To game five and we came out of. That going Against,
connecticut that was like we are going to be battle
tested and it went to a game.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Five that's probably the best championship series.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
In the last few. Years And i'm not just saying
that BECAUSE i played in, it but you just literally
didn't know who was gonna. Win and that final, game
there was a point where it was like four minutes
left we went or like six minutes, left we went
down by, eight AND i was, like oh, shit. Y'all
and then HERE i. COME i hit two. Threes we
right down. There HERE i, go HERE i. Go we

(01:04:22):
hit two big AND i had not hit a shot
the whole. Game LIKE i say that BECAUSE i had
not hit a shot the whole, game and here are
my teammates still being confident in me. ENOUGH i think
one came From emma and the other one came From
Christy tolliver passing me the ball to shoot the three
and being like shoot that. Bitch. Yeah AFTER i hit
those two, threes we didn't look. Back and when that
final buzzer went, OFF i ran To alena LIKE i

(01:04:44):
dropped the ball before the, ball like the clock even went.
Down AND i looked at her AND i was, like
we fucking did, It, like, yeah we did. It and
to see, like as a point, guard there is nothing
more THAT i wanted to. Do there to Bring Alena
dell out her first. Championship she had every act in
her career except for A wnba. Championship that's why she
came to us during that. Year fifty forty, Ninety that's

(01:05:06):
what that girl. Was fifty forty NINETY mvp, incredible never
been done in a women's game. Before like, again three herniated,
disc three herniated disc and we Won AND dc was behind.
Us WHEN i came in TO dc in twenty, fifteen
no one knew about the. Mystics now we can't walk
anywhere without being. Noticed and that's, like that is the

(01:05:27):
coolest thing for me to see because that means we're
having impact on our, community. Right that means that like
our community is coming behind. Us SO i don't. Know
that was such a surreal moment for me being a
mid major kid and. UNDERDOG i, MEAN i ran to my,
mama like WHEN i was done hugging the, LANE i
ran up into the, stands ran to my, parents my
family that was up, there just boohoo and crying and

(01:05:50):
not JUST i can't even tell you that moment was so.
Surreal BUT i will Say i'm pissed we never got our.
Parade we never got a. Parade you never. HAPPENED covid
happened right after it. Gotcha so it was, like y'all
gonna run this parade back because we fucking deserved that.
Shit i'm, LIKE i want to smoke on the bus
to running through the, City LIKE i want to be

(01:06:12):
Like asia drinking four locals out here.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
Too first of, all one of the four locals is, Crazy, Asia,
asia crazy for, That like you didn't have to put
that motor oil in your.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Body my, god that's.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
INSANE i can't four locals on a bus a moving.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
VEHICLE i did that in college a few times AND
i just never recovered quite from. This don't need, it
don't don't need. It you don't need.

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
It so you guys had that amazing championship, run, right
it just cummitted to this amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Season and then you talked about the next YEAR covid.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Happened bubble.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
Season there's a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
Going on and during that, Season George, floyd all these
different social activism, movements all these different, things and you
were one of the most vocal athletes across not just
W ba but all, sports being out in the media
talking about these different, days being at, protests all the
different stuff in that social climate that we were. In
so how was it balancing being an activist and standing

(01:07:12):
out what you're believing being an? Athlete but it wasn't
like you meshed the two, together which is something that
we hadn't really seen before on such a big. Stage
so what was that experience like for you being so
outspoken and just respected for that on some?

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Places but it's also backlash, Coming so what was that?

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Like what the backlash THAT i received for WHAT i
do is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Insane this is something that in my mama like embraces
my heart when my mama starts caring about. It because
in this role THAT i do take about the topics
THAT i talk, ABOUT i received death threats all the,
TIME i received death. THREATS i received. Threats i've had
weird ass people like follow me like it. Is it
really is, Insane AND i very much understand that this

(01:07:57):
is What god intended for. Me SO i trust it
AND i understand that could be a potential that something
happens along the, way, right but that's not going to
stop me from speaking the truth and speaking for The
Voice list, right being a voice for The Voice. List
it goes back to that testament of, like this game
has given us so, much BUT i truly believe That

(01:08:17):
god intended it to be a gateway into what this,
is of me being a servant to my, community to,
others being a voice for the voice. List and in twenty,
twenty that DECISION i was the hardest decision of my
life to sit that year, out coming off a, championship
coming off of personal best. Season for, Me i'm the point,
Guard i'm the, Leader i'm the player. Rep so when
we're in these conversations about the, Bubble i'm, like hold on,

(01:08:40):
now like our money isn't. Guaranteed it was just like
it was a lot going. On, yeah it was a
lot going on all at. Once but then, again you
have the reality of you are a black woman In.
America so everything that is, happening whether we it affects
us directly or, not we feel all that. Trauma as
black and brown people in The. America we feel that

(01:09:01):
trauma every single. Day whether we Knew, george whether we Knew,
brianna it doesn't matter because we have the potential to be.
Them the MOMENT i leave my, HOUSE i have the
potential to because of the color of my, skin Because
i'm a woman BECAUSE i present as, gay, LIKE i
have the potential to be.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Harmed that's a scary. REALITY i don't even.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Have to leave my. House you can come into my
house and literally kill me the people that are supposed
to serve and protect. Right so at that, moment there
have been such a shift in our country and really
just as a whole of, like we could no longer
trust in our, Politicians so people turn to, athletes right
because at the end of the, day, yes we're put

(01:09:41):
on these stages and all the bright lights are on,
us but when we take those jerseys, off we face
the same issues that y'all face every single. Day so
we're these politicians who have had a silver spoon in
their mouth their entire. Life they don't know what it
means to work two. Jobs they don't know what it
means to give your kids food money instead of eating.
Yourself they don't understand what we go. Through athletes do

(01:10:05):
and SO i think that's where the shift started to.
Happen and there had never been such a momentum behind
black lives, matters especially after The george And breonna, stuff
because we had been screaming it for, years but our
white counterparts never truly understand because it's not something they,
face AND i know that's really. Hard and even in
my family having those conversations of, like there is a

(01:10:27):
privilege there, that, yes because you don't live this life
and it doesn't affect, you that it doesn't necessarily fall
on your, radar but now you are seeing. It for,
however many minutes that video was Of george being killed
in broad, daylight you now see. It so people were,
Outraged our allies were outraged for the first, time and,
LIKE i was, like we have to capitalize off this

(01:10:51):
moment here right, now because this is where the shift
is going to start to. Happen AND i sat with.
IT i was honest With coach t about. It he was,
Great like The mystics, organization they understood what my stance
was and WHO i, was AND i was super appreciative of,
that because, again it's not only hard to get in our,
league it's hard to stay in our, league and then
you're voluntarily being Like i'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Playing, YEAH i didn't know if my job was going.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
To be there WHEN i got. Back that's the honest.
Truth and, again distrusting In, god trusting in my circle
LIKE i woke up one morning and was, like this
is What i'm finna do because this has been weighing
on my heart AND i don't feel LIKE i can
go into the bubble and be a champion on the
floor and for my, team and also be a champion
in my community as. Well because that bubble what people

(01:11:37):
didn't tail that, bubble you couldn't, leave like you couldn't
ever leave BECAUSE covid was literally just hitting. Us SO
i want to be in the rooms that are having
hard dialogues and passing legislation and making. DECISIONS i want
to be on the front lines at. PROTEST i want
to as, athletes we can be played on such a.
Pedestal sometimes take us off because we face these same

(01:11:57):
problems every single, day and you guys need to see
us as a part of the. Solution and so the
only way that we can bring a solution is by
listening to the people that it affects the. Most so
that's WHAT i. DID i linked up with grassroots organizations
that have devoted their entire lives and their entire beings
to these. CAUSES i understood THAT i don't know, everything

(01:12:18):
BUT i understand THAT i have a really good. HEART
i know right from. Wrong i'm very. INTELLIGENT i understand
how things are supposed to. WORK i understand how our government,
works but how it really is supposed to be intended to.
Work but like How america operates is. Intentional it was
supposed to operate this way in a way that it

(01:12:39):
keeps black and brown people out and. Down and so it's,
like how those low hanging fruits that you were talking about,
earlier what are the tangibles THAT i as an athlete
with my, platform with all the people THAT i, do
with all the resources THAT i could, utilize with THE bistics,
organization with our friendships of like knowing each, other going

(01:13:00):
THE nba, Players, like how do we combine our platforms
during this time to really implement change that this country.
Means And i'm really proud of myself for that year
BECAUSE i learned so much about.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
MYSELF i learned so much about humanity, too.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Of, like we're not in this. Alone AND i think
that was the bridge of the gap that we, needed
especially between us and THE. Nba they had separated us
for so, long and why do they separate? Us because
our platforms are more powerful. Together SO i think finally
like being able to be in those, rooms to partner
up with OUR nba brothers and be.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Like all, right what are we, Doing, like what are
we doing to better our?

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
Communities what are we doing to make sure that we're
shedding light on issues that face people that look like
us every single? Day how do we make voting easier
in an election that means so much to this? Country
how do We it was? Crazy people are, like, oh
you just took the year off and all this. Stuff i'm,
LIKE i worked from morning until. Night and what people

(01:14:00):
don't understand is this is. Traumatic so every single, day
from nine to like, Five i'm reliving by. Traumas i'm
trying to be vulnerable so other people can. Understand i'm
having to deal with ignorance and privilege because they don't.
Understand and then on top of, It i'm just having
to deal with blatant racism. Ignorance like there was a

(01:14:21):
lot of nights THAT i ended up just LIKE i
would have to turn my phone. OFF i would be so,
DEPLETED i would, CRY i Would it was not easy
in any, sense but again just falling on Like god
has a bigger prophecy for me AND i truly believe
that this is what it, is and trusting that even
THOUGH i set out THE wcs and, like BECAUSE i
followed his plan for my, life That he will always.

(01:14:42):
Provide and converse was such a huge piece in that,
too BECAUSE i went into that UNDERSTANDING i was taking
zero dollars from my, salary SO i didn't know WHAT
i was going to.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
Do, hayley like just being honest with, YOU i don't
play overseas like that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
ANYMORE i maybe, did like maybe three years. Overseas so it's,
Like i'm watching my account dwindle down and here comes
converse being, like, yeah here comes convers being, like, hey
we love, you we support. You this is exactly why
we signed you to not only talent on the, floor
but who you are for your community off the. Floor
we're going to make sure your family is okay during this,
time and we're going to pay YOUR wnba. Salary WHEN

(01:15:20):
i tell, you LIKE i talking about it, NOW i,
Sobbed like, YEAH i sobbed because that moment for me
Was god will always provide when you follow what his
plan is for your, life when you just lean into
the things that you know are, right he will always
provide and So i'm really thankful For congress for, that
but also just thankful for the people THAT i worked

(01:15:41):
with along the, way people that teamed up with, me
the people that educated me and helped me be WHAT
i was during that, time for the community that desperately needed.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
It you said that also eloquently and so put.

Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
TOGETHER i, Mean congress is amazing for doing, That BUT
i think it just beaks to the character that you.
Have a lot of people are afraid to the person
that you were take a step back from basketball for
all these different. Reasons and it goes back to the
theme we were talking about where we're more than, basketball.
Right it's a pathway to figure out your greater, purpose
and for, you it's, This and SO i think partnering

(01:16:14):
up with THE nba doing these different things with grathroots,
ORGANIZATIONS i think it's all so special because it talks
about there was a whole shut up and dribble movement
a few years, ago and it's showing that you can
use your platform as a basketball player to do greater
things beyond just the rub of.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
Sports so you took That you're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:16:30):
Social activist and all these amazing, things AND i think
the influence that you had over other, Athletes like we
had a conversation about what you were doing At stanford
and talking about like and just like different things that
then we could do and those tangible things that you can.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
Change and you.

Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
Also touched upon like having you, know a white family
And i'm mixed as. Well and so it's the conversations
that happened in your own household where it's like the hard,
yeah and it's my dad taking me and my brother
do a protest here In Santa cruz and just understanding
and it's it's a difficult. Place oh, yeah it's a
difficult place for them to be in because you have
kids that are black and brown and you don't share

(01:17:06):
the same. Experiences so what CAN i do to protect
my own family from things THAT i don't deal with? Myself,
Yeah and so it's having those type of conversations with your,
families with your, teammates different people in your, life and
sharing that message that you know it's going to spread
in the things that they can do to then change.
It because, honestly it's like you talked, about like having
those allies and arms where now that they speak about it,

(01:17:28):
too it takes.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
It a whole other.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
Level it's now a whole now it's a, real real,
thing which is.

Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
Unfortunate but you have to play into the system because people,
talk people talk a lot about you, said like the system,
Right and it's.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Not a broken system because the wind was.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
Built it is, functioning is functioning as it was intended
to a high.

Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
Level and so it's just having those conversations and you,
know legislative, processes all those different things to actually make
a real. Difference SO i think it's so special that
you talk about using using platform in all these different
ways that it allows you to and making.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
IT i love THAT i want to say one more
thing before we get like move off to the next
topic or. Whatever but, LIKE i think the biggest thing
That i've learned through my advocacy too is like people.
Allies every, day people are scared to speak out because
they don't know what they can, Do like they don't
know how much power they.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
Have we had a lead call With Michelle obama and
SO i was super.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Hype but the one thing THAT i took from her
and Then i've shared with like, everyone even like especially,
kids BECAUSE i feel like the next generation is the
generation that's really going to make changes that this country.
Needs you don't have to be an, athlete, celebrity or
someone with status to have impact on your. Community it
starts with your every single. Day it starts in how
you handle your. Home it starts on how you raise your.

(01:18:50):
Kids it starts and how you allow people in your
everyday life to. Navigate like if you're in school and
you see a, bully call the bully, out, like oh,
yeah and when you get into the greater scheme of
things of now we're facing real life issues with these
same bullies that we saw in elementary, school middle, school

(01:19:10):
high school that were never fucking. Checked so when they
became full grown, adults, no now it's just blatant. Racism
so how can we just nip things in the butt
within our own every single day lives and our workspaces
with our friends and our, Allies LIKE i don't truly
think our allies know how important they.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
Are even my mom being like my mom will be, like,
YEAH i.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
Gotta no argument with someone, Today And i'm, like what'd
you get in an argument? About she was, Like she'll
like talk about a social issue That now my sixty
year old, mama like that just grew up in White
mama that just grew up in a different time, too is, like, well,
no that's just not how stuff, works because she's taken
the time to educate herself to listen to, me to

(01:19:53):
listen to WHAT i, face even though she might not
have faced. It my mom always understood that WHEN i
walked out of the, house my siblings walked out of the.
House it was two completely different. Things so you don't
have to be a celebrity or someone with statist have.
Impact you just have to have the will to be
able to voice and just call stuff out in the
bigger picture of things to really make a huge. Difference,

(01:20:15):
YEAH i.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
Mean you're completely.

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
Right just find that small tangible thing that you could
start with and then from there you can. Grow you
can do whatever you want to, do take it in
whichever direction you want. To but one thing you talked
about a lot was The mystics organization and what they
did for you during that time allowed take a year
off and really go for, It and SO i think
that's that's really, special because, honestly in the, league not

(01:20:36):
everything was going to, happen and not every team was
going to give you that same opportunity to go do.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
That so what was that? Like moving from.

Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
Taking a season, off focusing on all these things which
you're still focused on, now but then transitioning back into
the league for that next training.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
Camp so what was what was? That? Like it was
hard BECAUSE covid was not nice up put on so
much weight. TOO i was just in the house no
for really, REALLY i put on like fifteen. Pounds i'm
not even being, funny, like, Yeah i've figured out like
what my playing weight. Is it's around like one fifty
one to fifty. Five during THAT COVID i bumped up
to one eighty. Five i'm, Like i'm not playing so.

(01:21:12):
Cool that was, Hard but the whole point of twenty
twenty Was, Okay i'm gonna sit this year out And
i'm gonna make sure THAT i have everything. Working i'm
aligning with the right companies that WHEN i do decide
to go back and play that even While i'm on the,
court everything is working behind the scenes as everything. Set,
yeah So i'm still being a champion in my community

(01:21:32):
While i'm still being a champion on the court as.
Well and that's WHY i didn't feel LIKE i could
do that in twenty twenty BECAUSE i didn't establish the
community stuff, yet and BECAUSE i had, EVERYTHING i had
worked my ass off And i'd set everything. Up NOW
i can really just focus on basketball and then WHEN
i need to implement on those things that are working
behind the scenes for my, Advocacy like that's. Cool coming

(01:21:52):
back into the team in twenty twenty. One that was
a little bit different because we looked really. Different elena
just had her back, surgery Me, elayne and who else
stayed out of the, Bubble so it Was Emma. Mesaman
mayisha had a crazy year in the. BUBBLE a had
a crazy year in the. Bubble we had lost ap
we had Lost, emma we had brought In Tina. Charles

(01:22:14):
it was a. Lot, yeah that whole. Years it was
a huge. Difference so again just figuring, out Like, okay
how DO i be the leader of this. Team that
this isn't the same twenty nineteen that we won, with
so like this is completely. Different i've been out of
it for a. Year it took me a while to
like feel, Like, Okay i'm back to like feeling good

(01:22:34):
about my. Play because that was the hardest thing IS
i haven't seen live action for about a year and
a half almost two years, now so that was an,
adjustment but probably midway through the season you started hit your.
Strides you started to feel more, comfortable more like. Yourself and,
again The mystics organization was. Phenomenal so even with like
me sitting out and coming, back everything was set up

(01:22:55):
so THAT i could just come back and just easily
like adjust back to The mystics and what it meant
to be a part of The, mystics and then them
with my advocacy. Presenting we're In, WASHINGTON, Dc we're in
the most powerful city in the entire. World like that
is WHY i challenge us as an. ORGANIZATION i challenge
our organization all the. TIME i know they love, me
BUT i Know i'm a pain in their ass Because

(01:23:16):
i'm not taking. Frums like we have a chance to
make real impact and we're going to be about what
we say we're. About AND i love that they are
okay with being held to those. Standards but they really
were great for just like plugging me in with The,
capital plugging me in with every town that's a, nonprofit like.

Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
Putting you in, touch putting you in touch with The,
capitol and just all these different organizations doing things outside
of basketball was really. Special like we, said not every
organization is going to set you up in those different.
Ways but you, know a lot of this the platforms
that we, have things that we're able to do from.
IT a lot of it comes from this newfound coverage
that women's sports is.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
Getting and it's a line of, like.

Speaker 4 (01:23:53):
You, know being appreciative and thankful of where we are
and where we, are but.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
Like you're still wanting, more unsatisfied with where we're. At
but it's been.

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
Growing what do you think are some of the ways
that the coverage of the game has been getting better
over the years that you've been in the league and
even through, College like you've seen it really.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
Grow throughout your. Career so what has that been like
to be a part of that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
Change it's been really.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
Cool obviously now that you're in the.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
LEAGUE i know you feel it, too like we want
to leave this game better than when we found. It
And i'm so glad That i've been a part of
the one point forty four that has made this league and.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
Pushed it forward to the point that you can come
in and get more.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
Coverage and that doesn't also take away from what you
did in college and what other college players are, doing
like the fact THAT lsu AND iowa gain like was
as popular as it. WAS i went to. IT i
was so, Excited LIKE i went to it like it
was really really dope to just finally see like we've
been deserving of. This we deserve the same, Respect we

(01:24:54):
deserve the same investments that all of our counterparts get
when it comes to being. Supported and so WHEN i
came in at twenty fifteen and it was like we
all allot of work to, do, y'all like this ain't
really necessarily, it but obviously we've worked our asses off
to get to this. POINT i think the biggest changes have,
been like obviously investments into our league from different. Companies

(01:25:16):
the main thing is the, media, Right like the media
that covers. Us i'm like little things LIKE Tnt Candae
parker is on your shit all the. Time why have
you not played the w game? Yet why have you
not made that investment into our league when you have
one of the best that has ever played the game
in basketball under your contract to begin, With like that's
the part that kills, me is still not seeing the

(01:25:40):
full investment into women in, Sports like even we can
talk about THE, NWSL i wouldn't even talk about THE.
WNBA i think they've made a crazy ass jump in
the last two three years for, Real and it's from
what investment of. Women like the fact that you have
women owners that are like actresses and you have people
that are eos and women CEOs that are investing into your.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
LEAGUE i love. That now WHERE i get mad is
where is the?

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
Disconnect what does your demographic look like opposed to what
our demographic look? Like and then it becomes a conversation
of why do we not support black? Women so that's
still WHERE i very much feel like we need to
grow is our investment into black. Women BECAUSE i see
it in THE. NWSL i see the investment into white,

(01:26:27):
women AND i love.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
It there is nothing that makes me.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
Happier i'm trying to go to a game on the
fifteenth IN La, like, yeah, YEAH i love that. SHIT
i love that we have the spirit IN. DC i
go to the games all the. Time Like Trinity. Rodman
that was when we drafted. HER i was so. Hyped,
yeah hang, Girls SO i love.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
It but like, that that's the thing that still gets
me is.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
That people are, like why do you always talk about
race because UNFORTUNATELY i have. To UNFORTUNATELY i have. To
so while our league has grown tremendously over the last
eight years That i've been a part of, it we
still have so much room to. Go and that just
simply comes from people respecting investing into black. Women SO

(01:27:07):
i don't know when that's going to. CHANGE i hope
that we. Continue we're obviously going to continue to. Push
but the one thing THAT i will, Say i'm so
proud of black and brown women over the last few.
Years we don't settle for shit. Anymore you're not giving us.
Crumbs we're not accepting crumbs. Anymore we want a. Meal
why because we're the. Meal we want a whole. Meal
give me the full.

Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
Course you are, correct you not you blessing a little.
Bit the analogies all day have been killing so.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
Good BUT i, mean you're so.

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
Right you're so, right because it's when you talk about
like the growth and THAT lsu AND iowa game and
just the W nba being. More it's when you give
us the, platform you see what then, happens and then
you talk to the rest and it's just like with THE,
Nwsl LIKE i am a fangirl Of sony and it's
just like coverage that they're getting in the way that

(01:28:01):
they've been able to. Grow and then you talk about
the demographic change and the differences between the different leagues
that we, have which is crazy because their league is
a lot. Younger but it's wild to think about because people,
SAY i talk about race so, much all these different
things that you just.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
Mentioned if you didn't have, to you.

Speaker 4 (01:28:20):
Wouldn't but it has to be a part of the
conversation because that's the way that we are right.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
Now AND i think it's just it's just.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
Different it. Is and you, know as a mixed, kid
we wouldn't talk about race if we didn't have, to
like we very, much even as mixed, kids we have a.
Privilege we have a privilege as light skin mixed, kids
which is so.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
Crazy it's so, crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
But like that self accountability is, like so that's what we.
Need but, yeah that's the, Thing like we didn't have
to talk about, race we. Wouldn't we don't want to.
Anymore we want to be we want to have equity
across the board for who we are as a human.
BEING i want you to see my heart before you
see my, skin AND i want you to see my
heart BEFORE i Who i'm deciding to. Love that's WHAT

(01:29:03):
i want you to. See and THEN i want you
to tell me that you don't fuck with me as
a human being for any other thing besides my. Heart, like,
yeah that's what it really comes down. To SO i
just want people to invest in.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Us.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
Snap that's his, snap not a roll on a roll.

Speaker 4 (01:29:18):
Day so we're going to head into our last, section
which is a rapid fire portion we call the vibe.
Check so we had Some, yeah so some guests are
great at the rapid fire.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
Aspect some are not so. Great So i'm excited to
see where we.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
Fall you're a.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
Privilege you're gonna kill. It look competitor and me BECAUSE
i sat up And i'm, like, okay focused, girl this is.

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
The time to bring out that. Fire no more, water
Straight fire's.

Speaker 4 (01:29:47):
Okay so what's the one drill you never want to
see on your practice?

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Plan? Anything full?

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
Court had you're, EASY i want to say half.

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
Court we could go for three hours half, court but
just make it half.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
Fork i'm with, you, You. Okay who's best dressed in the. League,
oh there's a.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
Few i'm gonna put herself. There slam Shtrri Erique, Diamond
izzy And Olivia olivia From. Connecticut she was all, Crazy
we're gonna talk About Christina niguay because that's who's been styling.
Her also her line Tiff hayes Tif she's been styling
the both of. Them so if y'all haven't tuned, in

(01:30:26):
go check Out christine's line because that shit is. Crazy
she's so.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
Great great list to really. Good This, okay game winning
shot or game winning.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
Block game winning? Block we defense first.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
Love it and one or three pointer and one Because
i'm flip and so it.

Speaker 4 (01:30:43):
Is, yeah, okay toughest place to play in the W New,
York New. York what's your go to trash talk?

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
Line, oh this ain't what you. WANT i gotta go
with My philly this what you. Want i'm also Use
i've also used you not about that life because a
lot of people in our lead try to talk ship
And i'm, like but you won't see me outside after.
This you're not about that? Life all? Right those are?
Good those are.

Speaker 3 (01:31:09):
Good who's the biggest trash talker in the.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
League, oh my, gosh there's a. Lot there's a. Lot
it's hard to. PICK i think, Recently tiff is, Funny
Like tiff will talk her ship and that that's. Funny
slim won't necessarily talk unless she's like egged on to,
talk then she's gonna talk her. Ship. Marina marina is
a ship, talker, maybray she is. Talking she be. Talking

(01:31:34):
she do be. Talking the.

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
People the other one people be saying is dt DT
t What.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
Kelsey Plum kelsey plum want to her, too her, Too
but she won't talk shit to.

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
Me she won't talk. Shit that's, love all.

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
Right who's the hardest player to?

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
Guard oh my, Gosh i'm gonna say for, Me sat
because is six, Five so it's like there's only so
MUCH i can, do right of like staying in front of.
Her sat is really hard to. Guard rique is so
hard to. Guard that girl is just like she can
shoot when she comes over half. Court, Yeah tip.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Is another, Player Alicia gray is another.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
Player And ryan like delicious goes on the. Lees that
is like something that has been the question people have
been asking me, recently AND i have to give a
bunch of, answers And i'm like that just shows the
growth of our league, too and how much better we've
gotten every single, year like someone is gonna murk.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
You you any, night you can get a thirty piece
on your head in our.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
League that's.

Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
True you're, right who's got the best Handles Chelsea?

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
Gray, yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:32:40):
Insane and then biggest flopper, Ooh sophie Cunning.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
Ham Sophie cunningham Or soberena and that's. Woo. Listen we love,
y'all y'all great, hoopers but y'all be motherfucking flopping out.
Here and it makes me so mad because they give
you the. Calls they give you the.

Speaker 4 (01:33:00):
Calls you're so funny because those are big common, Answers
but everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
Else is, like, oh CAN i say and Then i'll
give them.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
One you're, like, No i'm gonna say that shit with my.
Chest i'm phenomenal, teammates BUT i hate playing against, Them, like,
YEAH i hate playing against those two because they're gonna.
Flop you're gonna get your second found now your assole
on the bench in. Trouble right the fuck you're too?

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
Good, okay your biggest basketball.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
Ick, okay mistakes, happen, Right mistakes are part of the.
Game we're trying to be. Perfect are perfect? Game don't
make the same mistake two three? Times all, right don't
don't make the same and if another, one if we
come out of a timeout and you don't know the
play that we just grew. Up i'm pissed because you
could have. Asked you could have. Asked there was too
much time for you to ask for him to redrawl
it up or to ask, me is your point? Guard

(01:33:47):
where AM i supposed to? Be because now you're running
the wrong And i'm being guarded ninety feet from the
basket and you're pissing me.

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
Off yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that one got some. Passion
your budd came flying, out your body came flying.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
Better, no you, Better, okay damn.

Speaker 4 (01:34:01):
It like, okay if you talk, trash.

Speaker 3 (01:34:06):
But you're not backing it? Up are you?

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
Talking that's WHY i was nervous about that In New york.
GAME i was, LIKE i talked to a lot of
ship THAT i need to back it. Up ship. UP
i listened to Meet mill all. Day it's time to
go Meet mill straight Meat.

Speaker 3 (01:34:24):
MILL i, mean that's what you.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
Need that's what you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
Need, OKAY i feel like you know your. Answer but
who's your?

Speaker 1 (01:34:29):
Goat? Oh my goat Always my goat is Always elena
outside Of, Elena sue is my.

Speaker 3 (01:34:36):
Goat, okay, No i'm going with My. MORE i love
My more growing, UP i love my that was my.

Speaker 1 (01:34:50):
That was my. Person WHEN i came in to leave
with all the free throw, LINE i was.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
Like Get oh my, god that's such a real. Thing
even coming to THE i was, like, okay let me be.

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
Cool my one fan girl was a d and.

Speaker 4 (01:35:08):
BECAUSE i watched them At louisville AND i was, like
ad and our lockers are right next to each, other
AND i was, LIKE i came in the first DAY
i listened to the, LOCKER i was, like oh, GOD.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
I love. That they're so sweet. Too they're so sweet.
Too they are the, sweetest but.

Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
Yay our last question is your best impersonation of coach
t give it to.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
Us so. Coach she actually doesn't do a lot of
like he won't verbalize his, frustration but like he is
very much a he's going to get beat. Red and
the minute that you see his H i see. It
he LIKE i know that that going into THE gm,

(01:35:54):
Role like, yes he was so happy for his son
to take, over but like this man coached for his entire.
Life so that moving to A gm and A gm
ONLY i would see him on our sideline because he
sits courtside and he's, Here he'll still be talking ship
to the rest. Too he'd be, LIKE i ain't. Don't
so he's Not he's not like much of a. Talker

(01:36:15):
but if you get your hand hand and the hand
if the handles before head, back like.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
WHEN i see him do, it it immediately still triggers
me to be black home.

Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
Messing.

Speaker 3 (01:36:27):
Up so every, coach every coach has that. Thing it's LIKE.
Ptsd it's, like oh my, god like my high school.

Speaker 4 (01:36:33):
Coach my high school coach do this. Day IF i
hear a, Whistle i'm, like where is? She she's, here
there's the, thing BUT i.

Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
Lied my last question is those Four Meek meal songs
that got you hyped? Up we the people need to
know for their next.

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
Game dreams And nightmares nineteen forty. Two what else THAT
i have on their? Levels there was one? More oh
h the intro it's a. Championship oh those are. Good
SO i had those four songs just Like i'm normally before.
Games i'm normally like, happy my normal like light annoying.

(01:37:07):
Self that, GAME i didn't talk to no. ONE i
didn't swallow. It no, one you're up in that, Line
i'm ready to. Go LIKE i knew you was ready
to go because you wouldn't even look at. ANYONE i was,
like BECAUSE i was in such a villain. Mood it's
like one part during the game that my usould like
said something to me AND i was, like. Huh she
was like WHEN i was, Like i'm, SORRY i was,
Like i'm. SORRY i was, LIKE i am in this

(01:37:29):
villain role through and. Through i'm dedicated to. It i'm,
Sorry i'm.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
We if you're having like a method, actor you're locked.

Speaker 1 (01:37:34):
In i'm the villain To i'm, LIKE i understand why
actors and, ACTRESSES i get. IT i love. That that's.

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
Amazing but this has been so much. Fun thank you
so much for me every.

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
Moment i'm GLAD i got to know you on a
deeper level, too BECAUSE i could be a fan From,
afar BUT i really am a fan of not only
your play but who you are as a, person AND
i love you and your. Friends. Tiktoks you are. Hilarious
you are.

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
Hilarious but, no, no this has been so. GREAT i
really appreciate you coming.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
On i'm a huge, fan a huge fan that's a mutual.
Fan let me know what you're doing this all. Season
If i'm in on The west, coast have.

Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
To link to LINK i would love. That but this
has been another episode Of SOMETIMES I.

Speaker 4 (01:38:22):
Hoop thank you everyone for tuning in and this has
Been Natasha cloud such a.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
SUPERSTAR i don't know about, that but this is the one. Thing,
Yeah i'm.

Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
Dead hey, everyone thanks so much for listening To SOMETIMES I.

Speaker 4 (01:38:41):
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you get your. Podcasts be sure to follow me On
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