Hi-Fi Jer

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Something on here, something on there, And.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
This time on d N t Jarre's rip with American
High Fi. We talk about Halloween and giddy up. We
download the Nova Scotia Stampede. That's all coming up right
now on TNT. It's been a minute.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
I know that should be the name of the new pod.
Been a minute, Taggert and torns. It's been a minute, hey,
But you know what, we got stories.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
We got stories and songs.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
We have games, we have lessons, lessons it. You know,
it's funny how sometimes finding an hour a week just
doesn't seem possible when there's other stuff going on.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
I know.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Sometimes it's family stuff, sometimes it's travel, sometimes it's work.
In this case, let's start with you, because you had
some lot an exciting couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, I was down doing a good, a fun favor
for my one of my oldest friends, Stacy Stacy Jones,
who I first met on my first American tour with
letters to Kleo, who he played drums with at the time,
and Sponge was the headliner, and we had a great

(01:24):
time that that year and we remained friends and kept
in contact forever, and then he started American Hi Fi
which was an awesome power punk rock band from the
I guess ninety seven ninety eight they started working with

(01:45):
Bob Rock and that was how we ended up working
with Bob Rock. So there's there's all these connections. I
didn't know that with Stacey and I going back and
just always remained in contact. One of my closest friends
and Brian Nolan, who's the drummer for American High Fi,
has been busy working with Everclear, another classic nineties band

(02:08):
that remember Santa Monica that jam, yeah, the Live Beside
the Ocean one, Yeah, So Brian's rocking with them. So
Stacey asked me to do these shows.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
And it was.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
One show at the Viper Room in Los Angeles and
then three shows opening for Marvelous three and in Atlanta
at the Tabernacle and Boy, Marvelous three two. What great
people and just in insane experience. I mean, rehearsed for
three days in LA got to hang and and just
work on the songs, and then just ripped out to

(02:47):
the Viper Room and had an amazing show with all
a lot of old friends there like saw Steve and
Robin from Wow from OLP came out and I got
to have dinner with Steve as well, and wow, just
catching up on so many different levels with all my
old friends like Sutter came out and just everybody that

(03:08):
I've mentioned kind of in the past, drummers that that
are really close with, you know, to me and my history.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
So anyway, I have three hundred questions. I know you do.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, there's there's a lot of branches that happened, yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Big time.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
So the first one is this is for Stacy. This
is his Foo Fighters. Like I'm normally a drummer by trade,
but I sing in this band.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, okay, yes, Stacey, who's Miley Cyrus's drummer and music director.
He's also a music director with Olivia Rodrigo.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Holy cow.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah, he's huge. He's always working, he's got he's uh,
he's grinding it out. He's he just had a they
did a Grand Old Opry Christmas special that's coming out
where he's playing drums with all this like Jamie's playing guitar,
Eisenstein from Letters to Kleo's playing guitar. It's just like
all his He's got this great network of people that

(04:09):
are so positive and great musicians.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
And well, I remember you.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Saying he puts together bands for different kind of touring combinations.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yes, he puts the productions together. He works, he works
on the arrangements. He like, he just coordinates everything. It's
amazing how much work he does and how successful successful.
But the successes makes sense when you meet him and
you know how amazing in it he is.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
So it's a pretty huge compliment obviously that he has
access to everyone in the world and he wanted you
to do this, like as a as a drummer to drummer,
the scrutiny must be extra intense.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
It is, for sure.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
It's awesome though, because I mean Brian Nolan who plays
with Hi Fi, is a great drummer man as good
as a gets. And so there's the parts are really difficult,
and I literally had to at one point I was
like looking at a YouTube field. There's a song called
We're Eagles there By by Iron Maiden where Nico McBrain

(05:17):
does this crazy feel like like this fill off the
top in the song, and I'm like, basically one of
those fills that like you hear it and you're it
kind of makes sense, but it's like there's a triplet
in there, so it's not all even there's like a
little kind of skip kind of so I I had
to literally, yeah, look at a YouTube video and watch

(05:40):
a breakdown of it to figure it out. And even
when I even that that was like just what Nico played,
Brian puts a four on the floor on it, so
he had a bass drum goo goom. So I'm like, well,
I asked, I'm like stagy, I'm like, oh, does that
make it easier? Like hoping that these like I don't

(06:01):
think so. So So I figured it out and I
had an assemblance. I think I got like ninety eight
percent of it. There's but I mean, it's just really
difficult to do when you're trying to.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Do a bunch of other stuff as well, right.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Because there was other fills that I, you know, wanted
to play better, and so it just three weeks of
hardcore practice just to kind of make sure that I
didn't want to make a fool of myself.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
No, no, that's my next question. What percent shape were
you in when you got the call? Are you like, oh,
I'm starting from Barbara Papa zero percent on the couch?

Speaker 1 (06:49):
No?

Speaker 3 (06:49):
No, no, no, I would say I was like, I was,
you know, still playing a little bit. So I was
probably at like thirty percent maybe five percent, you know,
because and I say that because it's not like I've
done shows, a few live events, but not full on

(07:11):
like this kind of music where you're.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Pounding it right is wheel.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, So like even myself, I'm like, well, it's been like, yeah,
it's been a long time for the really loud rock.
Like I've played some live shows where I'm hitting pretty hard,
but this is another level. So I was thinking thirty
percent and yeah, so I think I I went through
thirty two thirty four, thirty two to thirty four sticks

(07:42):
of practice in probably three weeks. Because the worst part
was just as I was about to start, like Stacy
sent me the set, like the songs that were going
to be in the set, and I got COVID. What Yeah,
I got COVID. I was like just came out of nowhere.

(08:02):
I'm like, oh man, so yeah, I was. I think
I caught it a golf trip with some buddies that
vibe Ah, yeah, my buddies Mike and and they have
a golf tournament. I was there, and I think a
bunch of guys got COVID after that. So anyway, it

(08:24):
was because it was literally a couple days after that,
and uh so I was like sidelined in the basement,
quarantined for probably three days of like oh, because it
was like I had no energy and uh sleepless and
the weird dreams and so uh once I got over

(08:45):
that three or four or five days, it took me, yeah,
almost a week to get on the drums and start sweating.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
You know, well, you lost one of your three weeks. Yeah, no,
I'd say I had.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
I had a month, and I lost it a week
of the month basically.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
But work expands to the time allotted for it, So
if you had six months, it would take six months
to ramp up.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
But in a.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Way it's kind of easier, like I have a few weeks.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I have to be ready. There's no like, there's no
well option.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I'd say I was probably in
better better shape than I thought because I had been
exercising and doing weights and stuff for the last since January.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, so I was.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
That helped a lot, like stamina y, so I didn't
get tired and my hands held up. But I was
the first by losing that week. I probably had a
week straight of like six hour days, like NonStop, and
just trying to play through the songs even at the
beginning if I didn't know the arrangement, just trying to

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play the time of how long they were, you know,
so going through the set, just knowing that I'll be
able to make it. But like I was sweating buckets
like I you know, riding a bike or doing weights
y'all for half an hour, or a bike for an hour,
or a bike bike for an hour and a half.

(10:14):
Even like your shirt will be sweat, like soaked, but
not all the way to the bottom of your shirt.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, this is a different kind of sweat, but drumming.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Literally after forty five minutes, my underwear and my socks
are soaked. Everything soaked, you know at that point at
the beginning, So I was, I was just soaking sweating
for that first couple of weeks, and then I started
to understand the arrangements and then I could work, like

(10:46):
at least relaxed to enjoy it more. And yeah, that
last week was it was like you said, you kind
of yeah, I think I may have overdone it at
the beginning a little bit, but like just because I
thought I could learn faster than I could, but sometimes

(11:07):
you have to just take a little break to to
let stuff sink in, and you don't have to play
it all the time. You know, you can listen a
lot and that helps as well. So anyway, it was awesome.
It was It couldn't have been any better. By the
time I got to LA I felt ready to play
through the songs and we we did that in an
amazing space with his buddy Clay. Wow, what an incredible

(11:31):
rehearsal space, like the nicest reversal space I've ever seen.
And Paul Hager came who's an amazing engineer and gets
the best sounds. He mixes a lot of the he'll
he mixed I think the yes, he did mix the
Opry show that you'll see this Christmas. I'm sure you'll
watch that probably, Yeah, yeah, which sounds incredible by the way.

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So yeah, Hager's there, and Clay was amazing and Noah,
who who's the day to day engineer. There were you
great people. Uh No, I wanted a rock man. I
wanted Yeah, I wanted to I was excited to play.
And Lawrence Katz came in, who played guitar with the

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Mighty Bosstones, Mighty mighty boss tones. Yeah, he's an incredible
guitar player. Drew wasn't available because he had some back issues.
He had got surgery, so he was in kind of
in a rehab mode, so Drew couldn't make it. So
Lawrence Katz is actually filling in filled in on bass
and Jamie obviously it was great to see him, and

(12:43):
you know, once we got started, it was just excitement
at that point and just great hangs.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Any repetitive strain injuries rear their ugly heads or like,
were you like, oh right, I forgot how hard this
says on my lower back?

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Or or did it all kind of come back?

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Like did your approach to it and how you execute
it change?

Speaker 1 (13:08):
You know what I mean? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:09):
No, I got a little bit of rock neck and
rock upper back, you know, just like slamming a snare
druma slamming symbols definitely gives you a It kicked back
a little bit. So there's a bit like I have
a couple of pulled muscles, you know, you know what
I mean, where it's like kind of burning if you

(13:30):
move it the wrong way. That kind of stuff. But
nothing nothing major wrists, arms are all fine.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Was there anything like, oh my god, it's so loud.
Why does it have to be so loud?

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Oh my god, it's so loud. Yeah, it's in the basement.
Like even Lisa as You would say, wow, it's so loud.
But I got to give them credit to No one
in the house ever was like can you stop? That's
like insane. Everybody was a super supportive. I come up
and they'd be like, why, wow, that sounded great. You know, nice,

(14:02):
nice work.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Can I what do you play music on that's loud
enough to hear to drum along with? Or do you
listen in your ears?

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I have these Sony, these block out headphones that they're
really like they block out enough that I can hear
like if I have them on, like I can barely
hear the drums. Wow, yeah I'm not barely, But I'm
just saying it's like it's like you're wearing earplugs. Like

(14:32):
some some really good headphones, studio headphones that have that
kind of almost like a suction vibe when you put
them on where you just hear all of a sudden nothing.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
They generally do.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
The trick because, like I said, I've been the three
weeks of practicing, I don't have the music. That's why
you don't have to have the music that loud.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
To play along. It's probably better if you don't exactly.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
So what I used to do was was studio headphones
with earplugs and crank them. But this makes it a
lot easier. So and and for the shows, I uh,
Stacey got a good bod of his to loan me
some generic ones for the week, like high end generic ones. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
So when you're recording an album, put like I don't
know if they're called overdubs or something, but add a
second pass at a drum fill and then say like,
we'll figure out how to pull that off live when
we get to playing it live. Oh for sure. So
in fact, what you're listening to might actually not be

(15:49):
easily replicated.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Nowadays, you're you're listening to some guy just fixing everything
perfectly so it doesn't matter. Like it's almost like there's
the sound is a sample and it's been fixed to
whatever it was, to a grid, so it's exact right,
and there's like personality has just been sucked out.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Well, I guess that's my question. Do you ever get
to something that you're like, how did they do that?
And the answer is they didn't.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, they did a few passes. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Like a good example would be like the first slip
Knot record, you know, with Joey Jordison had like had
that kind of reckless abandoned still and it was like
not you could tell it wasn't just like all everything fixed.
But the new slip Knot I'm sure is completely fixed

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and on a grid.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
But Eloy.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Cassag I believe his name is like this the guy
they got playing and Slipknot now might be the best
drummer on the planet. Like it's not only as he
plays super fast and super technically insanely difficult stuff, but
he plays like hard, like like as if he's working,

(17:06):
you know, like trying to make a sword, you know
what I mean, like pounding an anvil hard.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
He's banging it out and his snare is cranked.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
So it just sounds like sounds like he's at war
when he's playing drums, because everything is just a compliment.
Oh yeah, it's just like a insane he's he's when
they say beast, that's the legit. Like Dave Lombardo used
to be kind of like that goat, I guess, but
this kid man. He's from Brazil, and it's just I'm

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sure he practiced way more than then kids growing up
in North America, you know what I mean. Like the
ethic is just you can see it. It's right there.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
It's on reel. It's on reel. So here's my next question.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
When you're I always wonder, say you're brought on as
a director to direct an episode in season nine of R.
The crew knows what they're doing, the actors know their
character is better than you.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Your job is to just kind of keep it out
of the rhubarb.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Are you able to put some Taggart stank on American
high fi drumming? Or is your job just to recreate
what the og drummer did?

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, I kind of had to do.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
I had to get through the gig by using my
own stank, you know, But I think if I did
it more, I would get it closer to what it is,
because it's really it's really kind of like if you
played with ac DC, you've got to play those parts. Yeah,
of course, you know, like there's certain there's certain types

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of music where it's like, why, you know, doing something
else is doing a disservice because everything around it's supported
by it, even though you might not even hear something happening,
but the evenness or whatever it is of the phil
it kind of directs stuff in a certain manner. So

(19:09):
I would say there's probably two percent of really stuff
where you can like do your thing everything else. Unless
it's like an extension where you're just jamming, that's different.
But when it's the song, it's just the best example
is if if you're playing you know, you're playing like
Come Together by the Beatles, and you do other pills

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like instead of like then you're like, dudes, like you're wrecking.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
The song Christina Christmas Carol.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah, like over like you need to.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Say pump palm at some point in the song if
you're saying it's a cover of that.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Song, Yeah, man, it's not. So.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Next question, how did it feel being in front of
an audience that like that size? How many people at
viper room hundreds?

Speaker 1 (19:57):
I would say one hundred and fifty maybe, oh it's
all Yeah, it's tiny.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
So this was like a warm up show before the shows.
But like friends and family and folks.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, except the friends and family is like every.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Everybody you've ever seen in her.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Every no, every yeah, every anyone, everyone who's working as
a musician, because Stacey is one of the biggest mds
in town and Max Bernstein's opening band.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
He plays guitar with Taylor Swift her.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
So like everybody in the rooms like got their card out,
you know.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, that's all the workers.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
For sure, like in a great way. So but I'm
looking at like drummers that can eat me alive, you know,
they're all out there. So I was just trying to
make the music grooves.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
It's like, well, if I can try and get stuff dancing,
you can't.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
You can't give you can't give me any problems, right,
So I like, dude, not at all between the ditches. No,
yeah exactly. I did.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
I swear if if I was playing like that, I
would be getting that for sure.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
I was like, oh check this fill out, Like no, man,
I was like serving, just serve, serve, take.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
It and put the drums keeople.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Like the drums in the in uh that room are
the worst fucking drums on the planet.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Like they're I don't even know what they're called.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
They're called like sharp shooters, saw saw shooters.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
No, they're like like you know, like Matt Black and
like just like they just look like, I don't know,
like some band, like I don't know, the forgot left
over from like Limp Biscuits drummer came in like in
two thousand and one and left his kid there.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
So then, but if.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
You've been practicing on a certain setup at home for
three weeks and then you get there and it's different,
it's not just.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
It's not just different. Like the drums, the heads look
like they've been like a guy at a blow torch
with a you know, a ball been hammer and just
started pounding on the heads.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
So then how do you do al melted and there.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
And like the symbol stands had no wing nuts on
the tops.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Like how do you do that?

Speaker 4 (22:28):
I'm like, these symbols are just gonna pop off the
first hit, like all of them. Like we just kind
of brought stuff thinking there'd at least be wing nuts on.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
The symbols, but there was nothing.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Nothing but Cody who's Stacy's drum tech, who's a bod
and came there and saved the day on a lot
of stuff, had had a couple of wing nuts as well.
So we may do, but I think I might have
even had doc tape on one of them just to
make sure it didn't find Wow. So and then like
when I'm hitting playing the ride simple, it starts turning,

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so it's like going into the drum like sideways. So
it's like literally literally resting on the bass drum like
on an angle is just flat straight up and down,
and I'm like between songs, I'm trying to move, trying
to try, trying to like loosen the stand and it's

(23:26):
like Andre the Giant tightened it. It was so stiff
that I had to even get the two sticks and
put them around it, you know, to give myself some leverage.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
That's like the only plan B. But then then I'd
run out of times as you go back and start
the next song. So it was a nightmare. The drum
kit was like falling apart on me. But like what
we made it through and it was like okay because
it had the energy.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
You know, stuff was probably faster, but you know what
I mean, there was probably be that element, but it
was it was solid.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
So how was seeing Steve and the Hatchter great Man?

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah, it was amazing. It was great to go out
to dinner with Steve as well. Yeah, and it was
great to see Robin. She's doing great down there. She's
moved down there, Oh she has, Yeah, she's been down
there for a few months. She was with Porno for Pyros.
And then remember I don't know if you remember Perry
Farrell getting in that fight on stage with Yeah, Like

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that was just after that, so I guess he was
probably pretty bang to have that time. But it was
good to see Hatch. It was good to see Steve.
It was like just amazing. It was so much happened,
like I said, in that few days. So when he's overwhelming.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
When you see Steve, I bet it was overwhelming when
you see him. Is it like you pick up mid
sentence because you've Hotel Rose together.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah, like when we went out to dinner, like we
didn't order for an hour, like they're like, do you
want to eat or what? Because it's just like you know, yeah,
for sure, it was awesome. It was really great to
talk to him.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
So then Hotlanta, How how does that venue?

Speaker 3 (25:18):
I think it's like twenty six hundred and it was
pretty much so I think sold out every night. Great
and the Marvelous three are They're exactly that, just great people. Uh,
the bods of the bods, you know what I'm saying,
Like just super sweet Southern gents.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
What does show day look like like any golf or
you're just like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
No, there's no time. There's no time.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
It was like the only kind of like downtime was
like dinners and breakfasts and lunches, you know, just kind
of other than that, we were working, you know, so
sound checks.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
We'd get there early, get ready.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
So if you're playing the same venue for three nights
in a row, do you sound check every day?

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Oh yeah, I mean, and you kind of there's always
something to do. Yeah, And we and the Viper Room
set was longer, so we cut off like three songs
and then we kind of intertwined them throughout the sets.
Uh yeah, so every day sound well they're yeah, And
it got better and better. You know, when you're working

(26:26):
on stuff one night, the next day, you kind of
you know, there's always something that you can kind of
fine tune basically. So we did all of that, and yeah,
it just got better and better every night. But man,
what great people and it was nice to be in Atlanta.
You could definitely feel the the vibes of the election,

(26:48):
like in the next comic couple days here, like we're
real close now crazy, So yeah, there's a little bit
of that little kind of stress in the air of like, okay, man, like,
what's gonna happen here?

Speaker 1 (27:01):
I know, I think Kamala is pulling ahead at just
the right moment. I think. But and then then you
talk to someone else who's like, what, No, too little,
too late, It's never gonna happen. It's going to be him,
And I know that's what I think.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
I don't think I think the fanatics, but I do
feel that fanatical people are. There's there. It's like a
squeaky wheel, right. You think there's more of them, just
because they're so loud on the keyboards.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
And on the on the hanging out and yelling.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
But when they get out in public together, it's you know,
you see these these Maga rallies, it's they're they're they're
not as well attended, and people are leaving halfway through
because it's just kind of yarbling, and it's like, oh,
it's almost like how you said, It's like as a comic,
it's like you've got ninety seconds and then the rest

(27:57):
of it, like it doesn't matter. You're still Donald Trump.
But people aren't gonna sit around for ninety minutes of
just garb garble like it or it gets boring, doesn't
matter who like, you know what I mean, It's not
like he's Richard Pryor or you know, it's just gonna
pro George carl and bringing it.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
We're gonna look after women, whether they like it or not.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, okay, Like it's just maybe he opens his mouth
long enough to say a few stupid things and then
people start probably they probably get turned off, you know,
and they just don't want to believe that that's real.
So then they go home and get back to their
own little maga trip.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yikes.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Before we take a break, would do you think this
is like you're in that stream now and like maybe
you'll sub in on a Shawn Mendez rip or like, yeah,
well was it.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Fun to be back to work in that way? Specifically? Yeah, well,
because I am.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
I'm doing another little not a run but some stuff
with limb lifter coming up.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Awesome. Yeah, well we'll talk about it after the break,
all right, but it sounds good.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
So since we talked, was the Nova Scotia Stampede the
first ever won the last week of September.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Oh, yeah, you've been busy all these live events.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yes, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
I did a couple of live events, the Nova Scotia
Volunteer Awards, which was very.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Moving and meaningful. And I'm going to tell you something.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
I'm gonna say conservatively half to two thirds of the
recipients of the Nova Scotia Volunteer Awards are people who
have moved here from other places. And that's quite statistic,
which says more about people coming from other places than
it does about us. Afraid, I think in other parts

(30:01):
of the world that's more baked into community.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Oh my god, hold on, rebels going bananas. Sorry, you
can keep going, and I'm going to just let him out.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
I have to let him out right, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Going anyway, it was very meaningful and moving to see
all of these people who donated of themselves and their
time in a whole bunch.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Of different ways.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
And we know with volunteering it's not because of the
glory or the money associated with it. So was everything
from a high school kid that started a food bank
for people in his community who were food insecure, to
somebody who's been a volunteer firefighter for forty years, like
the full spectrum, but a really kind of inspiring afternoon amazing.

(30:51):
The Nova Scotia Stampede happened in Truro. There are these
guys Matt and Kevin who run the recreation center here
and they just have big ideas for our little town.
So they're having a couple of drinks a couple of
years ago and they were like, what could we do
in our town to compete with like Cavendish Beach Music Festival,

(31:11):
and like, what what could we make a destination event?
So they rolled the dice on a stampede out here,
which is bananas.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Bananas, bananas.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
But they wanted to do something that no one else
was doing. They wanted to do something that would be
kind of a staple event in the yearly calendar and
something that would benefit ancillery businesses. So they they bolstered
it with like some Tom Cochran's and some road hammers
and George Canyon Natalie McMaster performed.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
That's that's a good way to do it.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, But the rodeo events, and they were very careful
to select rodeo events that weren't the most app to
be protested, Like there's no calf time or any of
those like kind of hold the breath events. It was
just like young bucks on big bronks and watch them
try to hold on.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
I never see that one with the like the little
tiny kids go out and they're just getting rattled around,
Like what's that about.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Well, there's also like they do that with sheep, right, Yeah,
they just.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Bummel like that time he saw that guy getting founded
against their.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
The the voiceover guy's job is to kind of distract
and say.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Like, oh, you'll need a couple of all tomorrow. Lol.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
But here's the thing that was especially interesting about the
Nova Scotia Stampede. Most times in an event with thousands
of people, people are getting sloppy. There's shoving matches, guys
are rolling around on the ground and wrestling. Someone's getting
kicked out, people are crying, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, for sure was none of that.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
The vibes, as the kids say, were so high. The
camera panned the crowd during the rodeo multiple times. People
are just beaming so happy to be there at this
kind of wholesome event.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
So for our little town, that was a huge win.
It was really well attended.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
I was had the honor of being the Grand Marshal
for the first ever one.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
So I wish I could have come. Man, that sounds
like a great time.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
It's so fun.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
And the.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Organizers of this one went to the Calgary Stampede and
we're talking to the organizers there and said, obviously, we
can't compete with you guys in purse money, and the
Calgary Stampede people said, don't worry about that. Give the
cowboys an experience, like show them you're part of the world,
or take them out on a deep sea fishing trip,

(33:56):
or let them play golf at Fox Harbor like some
like hospitality so that they don't get paid unless they win.
And a lot of these guys were like leaving here
Sunday night having made no money, drove from Ontario and
they had to be back at their roofing job Monday morning.
Like it's not a money maker most of the time.

(34:19):
But it's true. They they loved the hang. They were
treated with typical East Coast hospitality, and people bought them
drinks and fed them and were happy to have them
in our town. So yeah, it was I like thinking
outside the box. That was not an obvious choice for
our town, and it was a slam dunk.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Yeah, getting some good eats is a big deal when
you're out on the road's huge.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
And people were like, I can't They were like I
can't believe.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Like everyone's buying us drinks and giving us ribs, and
you know, there was food and vendor booths. Carol had
a vendor booth set up there. The girls worked at
the vendor booth. It was great right on. So Master
is there, Yeah, she is. She's awesome. She's incredible, unbelievable performer.

(35:11):
I remember the first time I saw her was in
the basement of the holiday in on Quimpole Road. She
was opening for Great Big Sea. It was like round tables,
probably one hundred and fifty people there, and she comes
out with her blonde ringlets and step dancing and playing
the fiddle, and it just didn't make sense everything that
was happening. So she marries Danelle Lahey of the band Lahy,

(35:33):
another kind of sibling outfit from Ontario. It's like the
chocolate and the peanut butter of fiddle playing. They have
seven kids now.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Oh no, and they're just all the kids.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
So their daughter Mary Francis, who I think is just eighteen.
I was talking to her at the side of the
stage and about whether, uh, you know, which of her
parents was better, and kind of all the questions you
might think to ask. She might be the most talented
of all of them. She has an interest in like

(36:08):
Flamenco music, kind of introducing some of that into her
fiddle playing. She step dances like her mom. She's technically
proficient like both of her parents. Was really cool to
see the next generation. So sometimes they do tours with
all seven kids, and sometimes it's kind of a scaled
down group, depends on the size of the run and

(36:29):
what time of year and all that.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
But something they've run.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Into is one of their sons, who's I don't know,
eleven or twelve, is interested in hockey all of a sudden,
so they've been flying him home from the road to
go to his hockey practices, which is a very unique
experience for a little kid.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
But it was good.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Hangs the road Hammers were awesome. Jess moscow Luke was there,
got to spend some time with her and her band
George Kenyon brought me out on stage to do a
on Ring of Fire.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
He's a wonderful guy. Yeah, it was it was super fun.
And wholesome and and happy times.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
And the girls had a great time.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
They had a great time.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, because you know, it's like the circus coming to
town and it doesn't often come here, and it was
like a different circus. People camped, people drank, people ate meat.
I'm keeping one eye on the Richie Brothers auction site
because I have a couple of pieces going through today.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
What does that mean they're Richie Brothers.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Richie Brothers is like a big equipment auction that they
do and they have them in different places. So I
have a Ford f three fifty a dually that went
through about an hour ago, and I have a big
trailer going through in the next probably twenty minutes.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
But they do it all on the line now, so
it's like it's auction.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
So you see, you see your stuff, skill it's sold,
and that's that.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
That's it's done.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
That's that then really, So the risk is we'll sell
it for you, but we can't guarantee what it'll go for.
And my experience, sometimes it's better than I imagine, and
sometimes it's about what I imagine. And sometimes just depending
on the time of year or what is what else
is in the sale, sometimes it's a wamp wump.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Well, hopefully you get a good one on this one
is literally coming up right now.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, yeah, can you can?

Speaker 4 (38:29):
You can you at least give us those things like
the womp plump or the middle sound or the one went.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Through, uh two hours ago and the other one's about
twenty minutes away.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah, but they they allow like thirty seconds for the auction.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Oh man, and some people are just like firing click
click click click.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
But if it's if it's banging, they might extend. But
if your lot is number two ten and then they
stend it because it's banging, they start number two eleven
at the same time as well. So if you're trying
to bid on two things.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
That are going to lose the other one. Yeah. Yeah.
They used to drag the things across a little ramp
in front of bleachers when people had to go, but
it went all on the line during COVID, so now
they just kept it online.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Oh and they like that because then they don't have
to pay for the event.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah, they don't have to hire a bunch of masks.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Well saw it and like, just for fun, drive the
front end loader across the thing and I think they
paid them in hats.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
I think you get a couple of hats.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
My god, that's a classic, yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Classic retired guy thing to do. Right.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
So yeah, so the Halloween was last night. I don't
know if the bods would know that, but it was
pretty amazing here. It was nice and warm last night.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Warm yeah too, it was packed like none of this,
none of this like where your parka under your costumes?

Speaker 3 (39:59):
It was like how warm, Like, uh, you could wear
a sweatshirt. Yeah, Like it was only windy, which I
kind of added to the vibe of Halloween.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
It was kind of spooky.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Yeah, but yeah, and the leaves are everywhere, blowing off
the trees right.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
In your house. Get dressed up and go out.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
No, no, just Annales she she uh dressed up as
Roger Daltrey.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Really yes, that's funny.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Yeah, which means like she she had like a kind
of like the tight denim you know how he had
the Canadian suit or whatever they got right, because like
she've initially wanted to get the frills, you know, like
the woodstock one that would go, but like it was too.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Hard to find or make.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Actually, Max from our Kel's does that too, right, He's
got those realise the jackets.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Well Max from Markel's has those gene patch he's that
gene patch suit.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Yeah right, that's his newer look. Yeah sure, yeah, he's
gone from the frills to the I don't know what
the hell they called him, but to that gene patch
kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
So one.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Yeah, so Anna was rocking that and she looked like
she could have been in like Bad Company or anything
like banned from the seventies.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
That was a little basic.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yeah, super cool, and her her friend Nathan was a zombie.
So they just did the loop around our neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Don't you by the way that the pop punk stuff
is back?

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Yeah for sure, Like nineties is really having a moment,
isn't it. Yeah, No, it's great a nineties rock too.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
No, she's well a little bit for sure, Like she
likes Nirvana and uh, but she she likes Fugazi, she
likes Minor Threat, she likes Black Flag, she likes a
lot of the American punk bands, Dead Kennedy's, she likes
Butthole Surfers a lot of like like interesting cool music,

(42:15):
which I like the fact that she's she goes out
on her own and just picks some music that she
wants to listen to but goes down rabbit holes. So
it's pretty Yeah, it's awesome.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
My punk era is coming up.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
I just bought a seventy nine Fender Strat from a
guy on the Facebook marketplace.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
We're meeting up tomorrow. Nice. I love that. I'm excited
to get to go into a deep punk wormhole. I've
never owned an electric guitar before.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
No, no, I thought you did. Really just acoustics? Yeah,
all right, here we go next level. It comes to
Buddy Buddy Holly stage by.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
The way, so at the of his COCI stampede, I
was wearing a pink shirt with kitten cowboy kittens on it.
Out of nowhere, Ashley Macaiaac appears and says, I have
a shirt that's more outrageous than that. I was like,
I beat you, don't. He's like, come over to my car,
which unsurprisingly is uh. I don't want to give away

(43:20):
what he's driving, but it's a boat from a time
gone by.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
He grabs this pink Paisley dress shirt with fringes on
it that go all the way around. He lent it
to me to wear on stage, which I didn't get
a chance to do. And then I said how do
I get it back to you? And he said, uh,
just leave it in a bag at a certain Tim

(43:47):
Hortons in town. And he said, they know me there.
It's not a problem. Like what a mythical character. Oh,
he's a legend. They don't come more legend. Then he
wasn't on the bill. He was there to hang. I'm
not really sure with who. It didn't really matter authentic. Yes, Wow,

(44:11):
that's great, So sorry, I want to jump back because
it was Jack's birthday is Halloween. He went, he went
without with his buddies and had a kind of party
And we're going to.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Rock it tonight for Jack. Cake sauce, steak styles and
cake styles, steak and cake.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
How old is he? Seventeen? Crazy?

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah? And John handed out candy last night. He didn't
want to go out to hang. Yeah, so he was
just sitting by the door with me and Rebel taking
Rebel or I took Rebel and he gave the kids candy.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
How many masks did you have?

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Ah, over one hundred maybe one hundred and fifty, Yeah,
a lot. What did you say they'd come in packs?
They would come in packs. We had a huge like
half a barrel of candy like chips and little you know,
the same stuff that everyone else is given out basis.
That's kind of how it goes, right, Like originality all gone,

(45:12):
Like Lisa had had to get granola bars out of
the cupboard to try and like like because it was
getting Yeah, but yeah, it was crazy.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
I'm going to tell you.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
We have the Honesty bucket at our house every and
full sized chocolate bars. And I think we had one kid.
The ring cameras went down, so we can't verify, but
I think we had one kid.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
So what maybe a couple of chocolate bars were gone?

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Yeah maybe every year for some reason, we forget to
count how many there were when we started, just to see, yeah,
because we could like for for all you know, no
one's ever come.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yes, I know it.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
I know that the coffee crisp by begrudgingly put in
the bowl was still there when we got home.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
I can tell you for.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Sure the coffee chris there, yeah, because that was going down.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
If it was still there.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Indigo went as a businessman with a breezecase and uh
like jacket and pants and a tie.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
And also the coffee is for closer.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Exactly, Glengary Glenn Ross Vibes, and she had meta glasses on.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Have you seen those? Yeah, like the Google glasses or whatever, the.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Ray band glasses that she can listen to music on,
but also sneak pictures and take video of you without
you knowing what's happening if you draw.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
So so she was going around recording.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah, took some recordings yesterday. You do that? How do
you access it? Press a button on the phone or something.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yeah, and it saves to your phone. So you press
the button on the side of the glasses like chick
and it saves you.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Oh gotcha.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, And Sugwin as a unicorn faery. She's on the
handing out of treats as well.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
That's great. So tell me about the show's coming up.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Yeah, so a Limb Lifter. We're playing the November thirtieth
supporting fifty four to forty, who was the first band
ollp ever toured the country no way, Yeah, yeah, just
going all the way back.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Because they invited you or how did that happen the
first time? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (47:39):
We were label mates at the time, and we were
a new band at the label and they were nice
enough to have us out and we're nice enough to
do more like we, uh, I think did pretty much.
Their whole Canadian tour was fantastic.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Can you shut it down? If your labels like what
we want, we want someone to open for you, can
you be like no.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Like you don't want anybody?

Speaker 2 (48:03):
No, like you can you decline like here's here's an
act that we'd love for you take out.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Can you say no, it's not a good fit.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
We don't absolutely for sure, Like it's not going to
help your relationship with the label though, like you might
start getting a little less interest from certain people at
the company. So yeah, you gotta yeah, Well, generally a
label will have not just one option, like there will
usually be a few, but like, yeah, sometimes it's kind

(48:33):
of like we'll take this one and you just do it,
Like we definitely did that more than we didn't. Like,
took bands that we weren't crazy about, but we did
it as a.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Favor to the label. For sure. Definitely interesting.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Yeah, there was a lot of crappy bands opening right, like, man,
there's no way I'd pick these guys. Did any band
states ever pop while they were opening for you and
suddenly like, oh they're not not usurping you. But I
was thinking about this with like Sabrina Carpenter opening for

(49:11):
Taylor Swift. She's she's not bigger than Taylor Swift, but
she's certainly popped while she was opening for Taylor Swift.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
And maybe that's why.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
I think that's why that's more. The thing is, just
when you're put in front of that scope every night,
how do you not.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Right? I know with.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Comics it's it's a tricky one because you don't want
someone to blow the roof off the place, and they're
hard to follow.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
No, Like you know, Taylor Swift wants it to be
the most successful tour, so she wants every radio station
to be playing the supporting artist music as well, basically right,
So all the radio stations are pounding that stuff because
they want support so they can get it access to

(50:00):
the shows when we come to town. So that's it.
Like that, That's why it makes sense that Sabrina Carpenter
blew up under that because has she done the whole tour,
like the world tour or just like a bunch of shows.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
I think I think Taylor Swift has had a bunch
of people kind of open for her.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
But the swell kind of makes sense.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Yeah, I'm trying to.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Anybody really who it was in Gettison. It had been
a band that has been around for a while.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Uh uh, I'm just looking it up, Taylor Swift opener.
So when we were in Gettison, Paramore that's who it was.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Yeah, and they're already huge, especially in Europe.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
And get uson Gurricon.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
We walked by in the town of Bookham, this little
tiny antique store and in the window was these golden
masks that were salt and pepper shakers, and they're kind
of little trolley gremlin kind of things.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
And I was quite taken by them.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
And we were kind of tired in a hurry to
kind of get back to the hotel, and Carol said,
do you want to go in and look at them?

Speaker 1 (51:14):
And I was like, kind of.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
So we went in the store and looked at them,
and I thought it was an absurd thing to buy
salt and pepper shakers in these gremlins when we were
on this trip anyway, were.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
They gold gremlins or you said, just gold like? So
they actually look like gremlins like his gargoyle vibes.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Yeah, I'm going to send you a picture of them.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Okay, And so on my birthday I opened a present
from Carol and it was them, and she, you know,
took to track them down, but I'd forgotten about them.
But I'd also brought them up a few times since,

(51:59):
which is a very strange thing to do about a
pair of salt and pepper shakers.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
It like, I don't I don't need anything. I'm I
feel very lucky. I'm not a big consumer.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
I don't have a list of things I'd love to
have or want to spend money on. For some reason,
these salt pepper shakers just really spoke to me. So
I opened the box and burst into tears.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
You did, you sure did? Right?

Speaker 3 (52:27):
I believe when it when it comes from the heart
and goes right to the heart.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Well, I think it was.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Like, do you want to be with someone in your
life who tracks down salt pepper shakers even if they
don't really understand why?

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Exactly? Yes, yes, exactly who you want to be with? Yeah?
You better right? Goddamn right? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:48):
It was very Uh, it was very meaningful. I just
was looking at the masks on the table and there's soul.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Again. They don't make any sense, but it was just the.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Little bods a little like they's tigert Uh.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Let's have your prediction on November fifth in the United States.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
I'm feeling the the that that there's more intelligent people
that care about women's rights than not. So I'm gonna
say blue, a sneaky blue wave.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Yeah, how about a sneaky blue wave, blue wave? How
about Biden wading into the fray just to upset the
off apple cart and then disappear again.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
What do you mean with the garbage line?

Speaker 4 (53:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (53:44):
I love it great, Yeah, but he also a bit well,
it's still blame me, you know, I'm I'm the one
saying it, Like I guess he's just had it with
with the Howard insane it's getting and for someone to
say something so un American and so disrespectful as that

(54:06):
Puerto Rican is an island, Puerto Rico is an island
of garbage, Like come on, Like that's insanity to hear
that at a at a campaign rally, like what so hacky,
that's never happened before, Like this is just so disrespectful
and it has nothing to do with being American. So yeah,

(54:29):
I'm hoping that that people are there they saw that
as like, yeah, well it's kind of warranted. He said,
your garbage. If you think that's something that's acceptable to say.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Yeah, truth, I dig it. I dig him saying that.
But it was like he's been no help this whole time,
and then he just comes out of nowhere, drops that
and retreats again, like thanks spot.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
I kind of have to dig out from under the
rubble now exactly.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
I'm just looking to see if if my auction thing
has gone through, oh.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
My second one. No, we're not there yet, not there. Well,
I'll report back next time, Bob. All right, Bob, I
have a good one, you too. I'm going to have
a Friday with my wife. Well Friday up talking about