Leafs and Oilers!

This episode we talk about the Leafs and Oilers, the election and Punk Rock!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Something went on here, something on there.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
It's time on T n T.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
The leafs and the Oilers are moving on.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Buts we talk about the election.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Butts and Ja schools me on the art form of
punk rock. That's all coming up right now on tn T.
Hey butt leaves and oilers, Leaves.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
And oilers, We're moving everybody advanced.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
We're all going on now that du bois are going
on in the circle of honesty.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Were you worried, well not with three games up.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, but when three to two wasn't there suddenly a
hit of familiarity in your stomach, you know what?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
I kind of I think that they needed that for once,
as you know, climbing back actually take in a sense
it's like even though they were reap, but they losing
and then losing it kind of like that's they needed
more of that. So I mean they haven't really even
shown up yet, right to be honest. So like in

(01:13):
the big picture, like you'd like to see the stars thrive,
and uh, that's what I'm hoping for in this next series.
It's it with Florida, I guess. So it's gonna have
to be like it's you know what I mean, it's
like you get this, you have to play this one
as if it's the final and or else just don't bother.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
So yeah, gel has given way to grease and grind. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, it's like, you know, like finishing the series with
like half your bones are broken, Like it's gonna be
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
I saw an interview with one of the Balls from
Florida and they said, how how do you like having
Brad marshawn. They're like, oh, he's nasty. We love them. Yeah,
like they make no bones about being g balls.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, so let's let's see. It's gonna be physical. Will
enjoy it. It should be a good time, let's put
it that way.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Is you know, do you think it's safe and fair
to say that Austin Matthews and William Nilander and who's
the little fella Mitch.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Riley and Marner?

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yes? Are they scrappy enough for your liking?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah? Sure absolutely. If they play it to their best,
then they have a good chance. That's how it is, right,
And it's the same with Edmonton's like the weapons are
all they don't get any better when they're when they're working,
so you just want them to play their best. You
don't want them to get inside their own heads because

(02:45):
that's what you that's what kills them. It's the same
with any sport if you're if you're it's all about
getting clear of your mind to to to have your
best chance, you see, that's what you know, like with
Rory McElroy, fine winning the Masters like that, that type
of thing where you can tell it's between the years
and you have to get over that at some level.

(03:08):
And once you do, that's hopefully what what's you know,
what we want as Leaf fans is just win one
and then it'll be like a day loge, like maybe
a couple of decade for you know what I mean.
If every just like every other team that spends that
much money, right, do you think like, well, you know,
you should get a couple of decade, like if you're

(03:30):
spending that dough the Yankees and you know what I mean,
like that spending all that money. But whatever, it's it's sports,
and it's all about being able to to do your
physical best without trying to get into your.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Own way of the sports. Golf must be the most
psychologically grueling.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, yeah, it's just sitting there, there's no Yeah, it
really is for sure, because you know, missing a three
foot putt for example, Like that's just something that is
one hundred percent. You're a mistake, a big mistake.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
But yeah, for sure, stop and someone hits the ball
and it comes to you, you react. Like I think
if you were if you were a great golfer and
the point of golf was the ball was coming at you,
and you're reacting all the time, I think the best,
you know what I mean, there would be more of
like the Tiger Woods thing because it's it's more reactionary

(04:33):
and it's like you're reacting as opposed to like it's
just wait and stand there and then do your thing,
you know what I mean. Like tennis is like that
where it's like if you're awesome at tennis, it's it's
so reactionary that you you just keep going up above everybody,
you know what I mean. With golf, it's just there's nothing,

(04:55):
it's all your brain. We're talking. Indy was saying, ants
is for sure a sport because you know, it's very
physical and you work really hard. You memorize a routine,
and that's hard to do with a she said. You know,
like volleyball, for example, you don't memorize a routine, you

(05:15):
have to react, And I was trying to make the
argument that the more you practice the sport, the more
likelihood that every scenario that arises you are familiar with
and can default to prior experience to handle it. Yeah,
I would argue, it's that's that you could say, not

(05:37):
necessarily a sport, but performance can be sport like like
playing as drums is very physical and reactionary, but it's
all kind of laid out and predetermined, right, choreographed. Yeah,
so that you know, sport I think has more about

(05:59):
you don't know what's happening and you're just going too
the arena of whatever it is, and the outcome is
completely up to how you perform, right. So I would
say the reactions and what happens mentally in terms of
how you explain yourself as a dancer or even as

(06:22):
a musician, how you exude is in similar fashion the
same as sport, but the predetermination kind of takes it
out of that because you're still you're still kind of
working on a map, you know. And yet we went
to a dance competition in Niagara Falls this past weekend
because Shug's team on set was competing.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Sorry, I will say, when you're doing that competition and
you're against other teams that are doing the exact same thing,
there is an element of maybe change or stuff that
you would do differently when you're performing against another person.
So that kind of takes it up a notch. I think. Well,
I was dancing, I.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Was watching there's, as is often the case when you
come from the Maritimes, and you see teams from you know,
wealthier areas of Ontario that might have more resources or
more studio time or more better costumes.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, but coaching all that stuff, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
So it was it was wild to see what some
of the teams are able to accomplish. Like there was
some just some routines where there's like seventy people and
everyone's in a beautiful costume and everyone's in perfect sync
and they have props or a piano or everyone has

(07:47):
an umbrella whatever. It is just stuff that is probably
beyond our reach a little bit out here. But I
was watching. There was this one dude, for example, who's
in high school and he's a tall, thin fellow and
he could jump two and a half feet off the
ground Like that is that is athleticism.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Like his feet are above like a chair, like the
top or the chair basically wow.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yep, and sometimes with the help of his troopmates who
chuck him up in the air, but often just by jumping.
So it's like it's like Kurt Browning doing a quadruple whatever.
That those feats of athleticism are bananas, yeah, and with
no nothing to propel you. It's not like a gymnast

(08:38):
who has a vault or a springboard. Note that's just
jumping off the ground, which is insane. So it's it's
interesting and maybe a subtle distinction, the difference between athleticism,
which that undeniably is and a sport, which I guess
is a competit. But these dance competitions are competitive, so yeah,

(09:05):
I know, the same question gets asked of cheerleading. It's
no question athleticism, like beyond impressive athleticism, do you consider
cheerleading a sport?

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Well, it's the same thing. It's like you're working a
routine and the prowess is in the physicality of whatever
you can do. Right, So if you're if you're you
have like a like a flea, you know what I mean,
Like just all of a sudden the ability to move
around that much. It's just that's astonishing to witness. Right,

(09:42):
So you're seeing all these people there their absolute best,
just crushing it. And when you see it a physic
something that's physically for you or for me watching impossible
that takes it, that just makes it seem like what
the hell's going on here? But for that person, they're
just doing their normal thing, right, Like, So, I don't

(10:05):
think I don't see the sport part because again it's
a predetermined routine, but you can certainly really accelerate all
your physical attributes, and I think that's what it is.
It's just it's on display and in such an extravagant
way that that it it definitely seems sporty, you know

(10:27):
what I mean, like all the physical appearance of it. Yeah,
is probably more insane than what's happening on the football
field or whatever that's around it, but it's still, you know,
something that they've been working on for for for months.
You know, I'm going to.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Tell you something. Dancers sweat more than baseball players.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
I'm sure. Well, I mean, anybody on a treadmill running
sweat's about to say, right, yeah, but yeah, pictures when
you see them standing there for a game for three
hours and they're you know, doing what seems like just
pitching and all the work that happens with that that

(11:10):
is off the field more, you know, all the leg
exercises and stuff that you need to do. But yeah,
I hear you.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
We went to the Have you spent much time in
Niagara Falls?

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, not lately, but growing up definitely. Like I mean,
it's actually.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Like for baseball tournaments and stuff. It seems like there
were basketball tournaments, baseball tournaments, hockey tournaments, this dance competition,
like it just seems like a destination for competitions of teenagers.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, and it's not as greasy as it was when
I was a kid.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Okay, interesting right because it sort of seems like Vegas
for children where they can run around in herds and
go on the ferris wheel or go on the laser
house or whatever. Did it used to be greasy?

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Well, I mean in the eighties and the nineties, Like yeah, sure,
like Clifton Hill had its kind of moments, but around,
in and around it gets kind of you know, like
gets kind of dicey. Yeah, for sure, definitely interesting get
like Hamilton's Like, yeah, Hamilton's is a great city and

(12:21):
I love that it's been growing. But you can still
find some good some good dust ups in the odd alleyway,
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, like Wheels is still
you know that vibe of what Wheels was can still
be in Hamilton or Nanaimo or you know what I
mean that the places that have that grit.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Well, I felt like I probably don't need to go
back to Niagara Falls anytime soon. Like the falls are nice,
and it was it's a destination that seems to mean
a lot to people. Our hotel had a view of
the falls, which was really nice.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, it also rained on our backs in the bathroom
of our room, Like there were falls coming from the
room above us.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
What do you mean Like it's like on purpose or
by like no, like yeah, like that. So you had
the waterfall that you didn't want.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
I'm going to tell you something. There is no feeling more.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Comfortable five hundred a day for sure for the waterfall view.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
So this is the this is the exchange I had.
I you know, imagine sitting on the toilet and it's
raining on your back.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Like what she keeps saying she keeps saying raining on
your blood's terrible. Like you turn around and Andre the
giants like laughing pissing on you like that.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, yeah, I would say, Andre the giant level urine stream.
Eh if it was more skelatic like drip drip drip, drip, drip, drip, drip,
drip drip.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Drip, Yeah, and so so intermittent that you can't contain
it whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Right, it's not like I have a minute now, I'm
gonna do get my book or.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
You could put it like a bucket or the garbage
thing in a way so it'll collect any of it.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Well, no, right on the toilet.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
So and there were two rooms.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
There was one over them too, from the from the roof,
like above from the room above us. But if there's
one thing I learned about water, it's that it doesn't
go in a straight line. So it might have been
from room nineteen oh six and we were in eighteen fifty.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
The room above you was like a guy in the
bathtub overflowing full of oranges, like on a trip, like
just full on fear and loathing Las Vegas happening abuffy.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
So the really disconcerting thing was when you weren't sitting
on the toilet and it would trickle the water wasn't clear.
Oh no, so it's either like is that a rusty pipe?
Like I don't really want to know. I also don't
really understand what's happening.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
So it's a guy with a ball in his mouth
in the bathroom with the room upstairs. Well, it crossed
my mind like did someone perish up there with the
tub running because it kind of had that like the
whole feeling.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Couldn't come in at any minute kind of vibes. So
this hotel that had a view of the falls has
this thing. So we're going out at ten in the morning.
We're going to ny Were on the Lake for high
tea for Carroll's birthday. We're going to make a day
of it. So I stopped by the front desk. I say,
we're in room whatever, eighteen fifty. I said, this issue

(15:54):
is happening. But the good news is we're going out
for ten hours. Could you please have this addressed while
we're gone.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
You're But the other thing is you're like, you know,
you have a room with a view of the fall,
so like you know there's gonna be like if they
change your room. You're not getting the view of the right. Yeah,
I got.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Four people were unpacked, Like it's a bit of a
thing to move rooms, So come back. Ten hours later,
we went to Niagara Fall, Niagra on the Lake and
had tea at the whatever that hotel is there, and
we went to Target across the border and went to

(16:36):
Target and should had the dance competition, and then we
came back. It's like ten hours later. Go to the room.
Drip drip, drip, drip. Has not been addressed at all.
So I go down to the front desk. I'm like, hey,
when I left this morning, I mentioned this was happening.
It clearly hasn't been addressed. Do you have other rooms?

(16:56):
And she said what room are you in? And she
looked it up and she said, we don't have any
other rooms in your fair class. I was like, well,
let's remove the phrase fair class from this conversation immediately,
because uh, it's not I didn't book a reigning room.
Like this is obviously a hotel problem, not a meat problem.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
This is I can tell that I can tell that
this is like, this is going in the place, like
you haven't mentioned the name of the place.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Of the falls.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
I know, but I feel like that, like this isn't
this is going south?

Speaker 1 (17:35):
If you know this is google view of the falls,
or either you might know what hotel it is, because this.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Reminds me of the cruise that you went on and
like everybody got sick and you didn't mention the name
because it was so bad.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
I don't want the mouse coming for you.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
So I'm getting the vibes.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
So this woman that I encountered at the desk started
by suggesting there weren't other rooms in my fair class,
and then she said, we could move you to another room,
but it wouldn't have a view of the falls. And
this hotel is known and in fact named for having
a view of the fall. So I intimated that.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Okay, by the way it was already was like Toto
playing or anything by any chance that night or no,
you know what I mean? Like was there a show
happening at this hotel?

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Oh no, there was no, But there's a whole like indoor,
Like you can walk from this hotel to some like
chain restaurants indoors.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
There's a warm.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Man bached.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Howie Mandel wasn't performing on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
No, No, there weren't any good shows that I saw.
But you can walk from the hotel to the water
park and a hard rock cafe, so it's right down
with a view of the falls. So the first thing,
this was the first thing she said, is I'll send
someone from maintenance. They'll be there in fifteen minutes. So

(19:17):
I'm imagining this guy comes in twenty minutes, has a look.
I see what I'm I need to go get. I'm
gonna go get the stuff. I'm gonna come back up
and I'm gonna like sand it down or tape it
up or you know, put petty poll fill out like whatever.
And I'm seeing the tap.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Maybe turn the tap offrom the room above it.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, let's start there. So meanwhile, knowing it's a bit
of a pain to change rooms, I call Carol like,
of these two options, I think it's a different room,
even if we lose the falls view, rather than waiting
for Gary to come have a look, and She's like, yeah, yeah,

(20:01):
I think I think we move so luckily. Uh, this
woman's colleague was like, aren't you buddy from TV? And
it's it's not often that I benefit from that. Usually
it's like, uh, you know, uh, I what are you
up to now or I remember watching it as when

(20:22):
I grew up, but I don't. I don't usually get anything.
But I will say that that changed the timber of
the conversation, and suddenly we had a room with a
view of the falls that wasn't raining in the bathroom.
Uh one floor down?

Speaker 2 (20:39):
All right.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
It was a good outcome. But I was again reminded
that like I kept my cool, I was really patient
and reasonable about it, even though I felt like I
did everything I could to handle it in the morning,
and when it wasn't handled an evening, I kind of
had a bit of a right to be a little
annoyed even though it was Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
But you didn't bring it up a notch. You kept
it together.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
I didn't bring it up a notch, and I even
got some apology macaroons that they keep behind you. Yes,
but I was again reminded that generally in the world
there's kind of a collective shoulder shrug. People don't really care.
But when you do escalate your tone, the sad thing

(21:26):
is it's often effective. Yeah, it usually works, well you're
a jerk, just to shut you up, they'll usually give
you what you want. I know, I don't like absolutely.
I think you should be rewarded for being patient and cool.
It's just not how it goes.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yeah. I've tried that with like Rogers, you know, like
the complaining about a data charge or whatever. Yeah, I
tried screaming and yelling. That didn't do anything got me nowhere.
That was the only that was like the first and
last time I tried that.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Well, I'll tell you. Uh, we give money to Yellow Pages. Yeah.
Yellow Pages is now a digital marketing agency. Uh, and
for Carol's business, we pay a certain amount every month.
It has not proven to give any results of any kind.
Uh and in fact, worse yet, when you call them,

(22:20):
you're like, can you sorry, can you show me where
these digital materials are? Because we can't find them and
we're not seeing any difference in the outcome. Their only
solution as well, if you pay even more per month,
we could probably guarantee results. But you know, you need
you need to pay more money. So I was trying

(22:44):
to get us out of that arrangement because it's not satisfying.
It's auto renewal, it's not helping. And I tried freaking
on them.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
To no avail. Nothing.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, nothing.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
I don't. Yeah, I get I don't believe in the yelling.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Too, especially because it's not Jason, who works at the
call center's fault.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, no exactly, And I've just seen it too many
times in public, not work and be cringe and like
make make you feel small just to see it. So yeah,
generally is.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Jason. I know it's not you. But what you have
to know is this is my sixth conversation about this.
So you're inheriting a bit of a hot potato. So
I fully understand if you want to punt me up
to your manager, but you need to know I'm really
not satisfied. So whatever needs to happen, I.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Mean, let's let's face it, it's a frickin' room. That's
definitely going to be hundreds of dollars you're going on
of whatever you're on a trip. You don't need like
something like water dripping on you when you're in the bathroom,
when you're spending that kind of money. That's the boss
them line. No, Yeah, and they wouldn't they they would

(24:03):
understand that, and they did.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, they did. So, So in the end, these two,
once the damn broke socially, these two women from Uganda
were so friendly and fun and warm and funny and
all the great things. Yeah, we just had to get
past the everyone getting their backup, including me.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Mm hmm is that mask still doing the walk across
the wire there?

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I didn't see that, but I know, I know masks
are ziplining. Okay, a lot of masks are ziplining. Maybe
the myst wasn't in the water yet. That probably happens,
like may first.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
I think, so, yeah, I've done that. I've done the
boat there down there, I have gone under into the falls,
I've done the walk around.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
It's quite like as a natural phenomenon, it's spectacular.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
It's yeah, it is pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Why that gets the taxis tourist destinations are juxtaposed against
something so natural and wonderful and beautiful.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah. Like it's not like one of those things where
you're like, oh, that's it, Like when you when you
see Niagara Falls, you're like, wow, that is actually pretty cool.
It's like the rocky mountains. You can't really explain it
until you see it with your own eyeballs. Like growing
up and seeing the rocky mountains and pictures that it

(25:28):
seemed amazing, but when you actually are driving from Calgary and.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
See them doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
It's it's out of control.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, Canada is out of control, man, I know, like
visual visual. Are you talking about the election?

Speaker 2 (25:47):
I think so yeah. I mean I feel that the
country spoke in a manner that you know, that's what
a lot of people feel. And I feel like we
skirted it away from a possible scary situation. That's what
I feel like. And you can call me whatever you want,

(26:08):
get pissed off, say I'm a loser, Say I don't
know what I'm talking about. I feel like jug Meat
sacrificed himself and his party to do it. All those
things like.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Hug meat, because I've been saying hug meat ever since
you said jug meat.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I said jug meat. I think I don't remember hug
meat ever, but because I think on his on his
Twitter bio, it would always say like jug jug. Yeah. Anyway,
I feel he, like the NDP, basically laid themselves down

(26:48):
so we can kind of have a chance and keep
that creep out of there.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Do you think that was a conscious decision?

Speaker 2 (26:57):
I think so yeah. I mean between Quebec and the NDP,
you know, just laying down the claims like it, really
they didn't. They could have just gone after Carnie every
on every level, and all that would have done was
help Pierre get in there. And that was I think

(27:19):
you could see even in the debate with everyone else,
they kind of exposed Carnie enough, but they didn't go
after him. But they went after Pierre in truth because
he didn't have any real facts. It was all accusations.
It was all based on bullshit, and the truth hurts

(27:42):
at this point, like, suck it up and move on.
This is solidarity as it gets and we have to
kind of get together at this point now. And whether
it's like you're you know, I'll talk to the racist
uncle again, you know what I mean. Like it's at
that point where it's like, move on, man, you fucking

(28:04):
lost again. Seriously hmm.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
I think, uh, Pierre PolyAm. I think a couple of
things about him.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
One, I'm not even a liberal, you know that, Like
I never like Trudeau. Like at this point, it's like
I just want I'm looking at safety for the future
of our country. That's it.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Hm. See. I would say I did like Trudeau. I
would say at the moment, like when you look at
the things he had to contend with as far as like,
let's take COVID for example, scientists say, this thing is
a real problem. The first thing we need to do
is make sure people stay home. Okay, how can we

(28:49):
get them to do that, Well, we need to pay
them because they're not going to be able to work
at their jobs. Okay, so let's come up with a
mechanism that allows people to stay home, because that's what
they're saying is the quickest road to the finish line.
That happened quickly, like I think as.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
I got no problem with that, No, I think, and
following the orders of every other great country in the planet,
like everybody did that. That was that was trying to
do the best thing for the safety of everybody. Absolutely, yes,
I think you think of that for sure.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
I think he was warm and a good figurehead. Like
it's easy to roll your eyes and say, like, oh man,
by the time it was done, it was so done.
But when you think about Canada's presence and the impression
of Canada on the world stage under his power in

(29:41):
the those early years, like he was gracious and handled
Trump pretty well, didn't engage, like kind of took the
high road, like I think had some very distinctly Canadian traits.
In many regards, wasn't perfect obviously.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
My take was I wasn't fond of him to begin with.
I thought he was kind of flaky. He won by
so much, he became very popular, and people, you know,
obviously around the world other ways loved him and thought
think thought he was great in every manner. What I

(30:23):
wasn't crazy about him, But what I started to like
him when people that I didn't like started to hate him,
you know what I mean, when people started going getting
so mad about him to the point where it's like
you're just making up stuff now, like when people were
saying we're under siege or like we're broken or what

(30:47):
is it? There was just all these ridiculous things where
it's like, oh, dictatorship, right, like all those things. It's
like that's when I was like, okay, man, I was
starting to like him. Now here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Now, like a referee, imagine getting a job where on
your first day at work, fifty percent of the people
hate you, yes, one hundred more probably, Yeah, that job
is not one that you're set up for success. And
so I guess in conclusion, I feel like in the

(31:20):
moment when there was like I'm thinking of poor to
pic when that happened here, he was a very calm
and kind and sympathetic voice. I think with a lot
of First Nations issues, he has been empathetic, which is
a nice tone for the leader of a country to have,

(31:42):
because I guess on the policy tip is where people
really bump. But the thing that I found really puzzling
about this election is mostly people were saying it's time
for a change. Mark Carney is a change. He has
a changed from Justin Trudeau. He's a very different type

(32:03):
of individual, highly skilled in economics, which at this moment
feels especially important. Peer Polyeff to me, seemed like Skype.
He had this empty net breakaway and then Zoom came
out of nowhere and just destroyed it. But the fact
that Polyev made it to the finish line, I thought

(32:25):
was especially surprising because I kept waiting for him to
blow himself up in some way. He had the lead
uncontested for so long. Yeah, and really all he had
to do was just make it to the election clean.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, Well, and that's it. And once once reality came
and he had to open his mouth, then that's it.
So here we are was a nothing burger. We're moving
on and in the future. I mean I think that
in my mindset, like let's like you said it, just
we're in a position that that is a lot better

(33:04):
in terms of just being a little more open and
chill and keeping an eye as opposed to like accusatory
and stirring up shit like how we're seeing Ontario being
led with Doug Ford or Danielle Smith. In Alberta, it's
like every other day there's some calamity or possibility of
you know, some backroom bullshit people. Yeah, we didn't want

(33:29):
to see that on a federal level. So I'm glad
that we went in the direction that we did. And
I mean, in a perfect world, wob Canoe will be
prime Minister of this country. But hopefully that day will come.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
I have a theory that Tim Houston, who's the premier
of Nova Scotia, who I went to junior high with,
might end up being the federal Conservative leader.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Well that that commercial came out like for him like
the week before, that's when you knew it was over,
I thought, honestly, which I was like, okay, Well, the
commercial of him just saying like, Hi, I'm this guy Yeah,
all of a sudden, I was like, okay, this is
a classic like moving on. It felt like that for me,

(34:15):
Like as soon as I saw that, I'm like, why
would that be accept It was kind of getting pushed
by you know, other conservatives, right, It's like, oh, man,
that was not a good idea to do a week
before to kind of that. That to me just felt
like the infighting that you're seeing with the conservatives. Huh.

(34:36):
The fact that doug Ford and Poliev were butting it
like there was all kinds of fighting basically, because if
you leave them in a room together and let them talk,
that's what's going to happen after a little while, right,
So that keep the you know, we have to keep
in mind what happens whenever these guys get together. But
that was a clear call for me to say, like, oh,

(34:57):
here's a future. This is someone that's a little more
interesting collected. I thought they had a better chance with
Aaron O'Toole, to be honest, I don't know why, Like
he at least seemed like he wasn't like a you know,
a moron or like someone that you could at least
have a beer with or something. You know what, I mean,
I don't know, so I mess not my problem.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
It's interesting because when I saw that Timmy Houston had
part of me was like, I wonder why, like there's
no provincial election, like why now? Why is that coming
out right now? It's just kind of a ward piece, yes,
to make him look kind of folksy and likable, which
totally for my money, you.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Know he is.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
He smiles easily and has an accounting background and seems
to do what he says he's going to do. Now,
having said that, being leader of any province in this moment,
when there are so many issues and so many people
living close to the bone, is really hard, and not
every decision he makes is good and not every leader
is going to ring every one of your bells. He's

(36:05):
a huge supporter of the film industry when the previous
government in Nova Scotia was not, so I feel indebted
to him for that reason. But I saw Seamus o'reagan
on my flight home. Remember no from Canada, am and Okay,

(36:28):
he's from Newfoundland, that's right, that's right. Yeah, So I said,
how do you feel about the election? I also saw
Andrew Sheer by the way that cabbage patch looking math Oh,
my god, he was walking around. He was Calamity number
two talking on the phone. Yeah, but he's like a
grown ass man with dimples, and I don't really trust

(36:49):
I know.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
I know that smile. It's like, dude, you're not twelve, so.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
I'm trying to look for his age on the back
of his neck like a cabbage patch mak. Anyway, I
saw Seamus Overagan. I said, how do you feel about
the outcome? He said great? I said, uh, do you
like Mark Carney? And he said, you know he's he is, like,
there's no uh facade, He's not trying to be anything.

(37:15):
He's not. He's the exact same person everywhere Loki, sit down,
have a beer, easy to have a conversation with, kind
of guy. So it's really happy to hear that. Because
Seamus was an MP and has known him for a
long time. He stepped down for personal reasons, which I
think might be code for don't agree with Justin Trudeau anymore. True,

(37:37):
but he said Carney is a great dude. So happy
to hear that. And all that to say, here's hoping
the boat stops.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Rocking and there's there's something to be said for a
guy that like sticks with their favorite band, right, like
like sit down with Webster.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
God, I was unexpected. I love that.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
That's that's my jam. Like love that, like saying this
is it? No, I want these? That's great.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
What can you name it? Down with Webster Jam?

Speaker 2 (38:05):
I can't, but I know them and I've met like,
I've met them and played I did some a couple
of things with them. I actually when they were young
kids in the early days of Our Lady Peace, they
had like a cover band in more In Heights and
they were they were there playing when we were rehearsing.

(38:25):
So yeah, that was like back in ninety three. Have
they been I think.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Have they been around that long?

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah? Yeah, Unless I'm crazy, I'm pretty sure. But anyway,
it's just great that he's kind of sticking with his
favorite band from from high school or whatever.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Right, mister Carne, what would you like for your victory
slash concession party? Three words? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Yeah, right with web You figure he would have went
with you know, the Hip or like a classic Guests
who or something. No, man, I'm gonna take it up
and I'm gonna give you know, a band that that's
people probably didn't know or forgot about and bringing them
back up.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Well, going back, we can get them. Yes, stay right up.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Oh yes, it's getting it's getting warm too, how about that?

Speaker 1 (39:23):
I love it. I love how. It was interesting being
in Ontario this past week because as you know, there's
no real spring. It goes from like minus seven to
twenty three degrees yep.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
And there were looms on the trees.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Same with Hot Lanta. Kendrick, Lamar and Sizza were there
on tour and I was joking with sug who's a fan, like,
I wonder if I'll see their tour buses. So I
was walking to CBS to get some shaving stuff because
you can't when you use carry on, you can't roll
the shaving stuff. So there are two Pravo tour buses

(40:00):
added greasy embassy suites. No, it's like what And there
was a Ruth Chris steakhouse in the lobbying. I thought, well,
maybe Kendrick's all up on that Ruth's Chris stuff. But
then I realized there was an Intercontinental across the driveway.
I'm guessing they were staying there.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
The other thing is generally I doubt that Kendrick's probably
not rolling in the tour bus. I wondered that, Yeah,
he's probably flying and going to the gigs that way.
He's PJ definitely.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
So then so then logistically, so maybe the band and
the crew are on buses or has a busy exactly.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
There's tons of people that need the buses too, for sure.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
But how does Kendrick get to the gig, like in
an suv from the airport.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah, I guess it depends on how the tour is routed, Like,
I don't know, if it's like a Taylor Swift thing
where he's just doing the weekends. Yeah, but like if
it's like that, or if it's like safe like Pearl
Jam or something like it, Pearl Jam will be we'll
stay in a hotel in Chicago and do all their

(41:13):
Midwest dates like and fly back to Chicago right after
the gig. Right, So depends if he's staying somewhere and
going out or if it's Atlanta, he probably probably I
don't know, he probably would be there like in as
opposed to flying back, but I don't know. Like the

(41:33):
police on the Sacred City tour being posted up in
the Hamptons, Yeah, yes, flying out for the East Coast
dates absolutely, because they finished the show. By eleven eleven thirty,
they're at the airport. By twelve thirty, they're in their
hotel room.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Crazy. Yeah, and then what time would they have to
leave for the show? Like three pm.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Sound check, so they would fly probably in at noon
or something.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Still worth it to not have to unpack every night.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah, well you're totally you just got to carry on
and you're ripping that that's uh yeah, I don't. You know,
that's it's ridiculous, you know what I mean. That's insanity.
Is doing that? That's I don't. I just can't comprehend it.

(42:30):
Like I'm like, you know, play the show, go to
your bunk, right and keep and keep the money? Oh
you know what I mean? What I don't know, but
I guess if they're there, if it's that much, it's
just at that point it's about being comfortable, right. But
I mean, like, how bad is a five star hotel

(42:51):
in the city that you just blade? Yeah, you know,
but it's like you said, they probably have they go
back to wherever they're staying, and who knows, it could
be just like a house with their family or whatever. Yeah,
so I get like on PGA tour, that makes sense,
Like they all they get a house every week, and
it's like if they're traveling with their family and they

(43:13):
do have like a bus, and everybody just kind of.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
What do you mean they airbnb a house near the course?

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah? Real or the tour will have like houses that
are already kind of you know, ready to rock for
for for people to come in.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
And I guess, like anything, it depends on the individual.
Maybe some of them will. Honestly, I'd rather a hotel
because I like room service.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Yeah, some people hate flying, like John Daly doesn't like
to fly, so he's always on his tour bus. Greasy,
ye are so greasy, super greasy. I've heard this. I've
heard some a legend stories that he called he calls
his wiener P eleven.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Classic.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
He's like, have you seen p And they're like, what's that?
And he pulls out his Wiener and it's like a
huge long.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
And he's like out of tg Olico.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
He's like the Uncle Milty of the PGA tour. Wow,
one of y'all, y'all seen P eleven? What's that? Jd oh?

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Fuck?

Speaker 2 (44:22):
I did not need to see P eleven that.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
That guy's a wrecking ball.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
It's like two coke cans together.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Jeremy not to get two in the weeds on golf.
But uh, your take on the l I V. Versus
PGA thing.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Well, I mean one is Saudi money, you know, the
Saudi's who are trying to destroy death to America vibes, right, like,
uh ties to nine to eleven vibe. And then like
it makes sense that that they want to get involved

(45:04):
in Western sports to kind of mess it up in
that regard. So I don't know, really.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
You think there's like a specific agenda.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Well, they're not big fans of America, I don't you
know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, So I mean what's
the bet? And they have more money than anything, like
more money than anybody could ever think of, so you know,
why not mess with Like they got f one going,
they got soccer going, and all under the guise of

(45:36):
like you know, taking over and being you know, single
you know, solidarity in sports. But at the end of
the day, it's kind of taking what the Western culture
loves and kind of owning it, you know. So I
don't know, it's a I guess it's a power play.
So they're they're literally with with live it's like giving

(45:59):
somebody five hundred million dollars to play golf, Like that's
ridiculous thing to think of, like taking a sport and
giving them more than like people that have won in
their whole life just to play on this tour and
then they do it like twenty times or whatever. Given
guys between fifty to thirty million to one hundred million
to five hundred million, all the best players that they can,

(46:23):
you know, buy to this rich men's league. That sucks.
You know. There's they play three rounds. It's this limit.
They nobody misses the cut. They have these teams. I
don't know what the fuck is going on with scoring,
how it is They got music playing like a resort
going like the whole time, really and everybody starts on

(46:47):
like uh, like you're on the thirteenth hole, so like
when you're winning the event, you're like winning on like
the third hole, you know what I mean. Like it's
there's no like five cents anything. Gun starts. They're like
in the guise of making golf faster, but it just
makes it fucking confusing as hell because everybody starts at

(47:08):
the same time. Like it's just stupid, and at the
end of the day, there's like nobody cares because like
sure you'll see a guy shoot fifty nine or like
a great shot, but like it's there's no history to
the tournaments, there's no vibe. So it's just all it
is is just to They say it's under the name

(47:28):
to grow the game, but it's completely doing the opposite.
It's destroying it. It's taking out so many things just
to fuck with the PGA Tour. When they're like, we
don't need a partner, we don't want someone else to
own half of this thing, like we're we've we've been
doing this for over one hundred years. It's all good.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
So you're just ran.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Yeah, and I you know, I don't fault them for it,
but like, don't tell me it's to grow anything. You're
ruining the sport by taking part of this. So it's
gotten so big in terms of like so many people
have left. It just caused a scene. You know, That's
all it is, is a big mess. There's nothing better

(48:13):
about golf. The only thing that's happened. Like, sure, the
prizes have gone up, so people on the PGA too
are making more money, but it's wrecking the sport because
you're missing you know, five to ten great players at
all these tournaments every week, and you're only seeing them
in the majors. So again, the majors are always going

(48:34):
to be great anyway. But like it's just silly, It's
just a silly disruption.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
H Yeah. So if you're Dustin Johnson, would you have
said yes.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
No, No, I would have done like I've I would
have done what Rory did, which is basically like, forget it,
this is terrible. I'm going to just play better and
that's the only only way I can get my way
through this. And it kind of I mean, that's that's
There's been a lot of great golfers that have had

(49:09):
that mindset of like they were actually pissed off that
guys left, but even that was starting to backfire on them,
telling them that they wouldn't ever do it, so just
be quiet and play better. I think that's why Rory
probably took himself off the player board and stopped doing
you know, the communication skills that he was doing before that.

(49:31):
He'd quit all that stuff and about a year and
a half ago or whatever, and that's why you're just
seeing him playing playing better and better.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
What does that mean to.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Well? Letting his playing doing the talk, do the talking.
Instead of talking, you know, instead of defending the tour
and ripping the guys that left, he just said, forget it,
you guys talk about whatever you want. I'm just going
to try and get better at golf. And that's what
he did, you know, winning almost every turn him and
he's playing in now crazy. It's great for the game

(50:05):
to just shut up and play better. But like anyone
that thinks live is actually good for golf, it's just
either you know, bullshitting you or they don't know what
they're talking about.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
What is the future of Canadian golf right now?

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Fantastic? Couldn't be better. Pendy's crushing it right really, he's
actually the Taylor Pendrith is playing the Buyer Nelson in
Dallas this week, which he won last year his first tournament.
So many, so many great Canadian golfers on the tour now,
like between like Nick Taylor and Hadwin and Corey Connor,

(50:48):
Corey Connors, Mackenzie Hughes. It's just the list goes on
and on. Like if you think about twenty years ago,
it's just it was only Mike Weir and that's it.
Pretty much like Steve Vanas, and you'd hear the odd
person coming and going, but like now it's there's actually,
you know, six, seven, eight incredible players and it's a

(51:09):
growing list. So they have Golf Canada has invested in
Canadian golf since the the superstardom of Mike Weir in
the in the early two thousands, So it's definitely you
can see the results. And that's why I'm my, my, my,

(51:31):
I'm proud of my drum student, Mike Weir. He's coming along, yeah,
playing the drums, yeah, is he?

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Man, he's getting it going. He loves it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Are there any skills that are transferable between golf and drumming? Uh?

Speaker 2 (51:47):
The the the mindset of practice is you know, like
when I'm teaching him, he's in is his room where
there's like potting green behind him and all his gym
and work out stuff, but like he just that you
can tell, like he's working all the time on you know,
really simple stuff. So drums is exactly that where it's

(52:10):
like you have to do something mundane and simple for
a long time for it to kind of start to
feel normal. And he definitely gets that and I think
he likes that. You know, the fact that you have
to do something for whatever twenty thirty minutes for it
to kind of give some muscle memory.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Did you let him pick a song yet?

Speaker 2 (52:33):
No, He's I'm not even worrying about songs, like at
this point. It's just simply like working on patterns between
his hands and feet, and very simple patterns and just
stuff that will kind of open the doors a little
bit for limb independence, you know, like for your legs

(52:54):
and your arms to be able to do stuff together.
And in the in the idea of you know, I
always have whenever I'm teaching the groove concept of a groove,
and like when you start playing a beat, When you
start playing a beat, it has to kind of have

(53:17):
a feel to like a flow, a breath, you know
what I mean. Like there's a circular kind of thing
that happens with one two three four two two three
four three two, Like it has a it's it's such
a it's like you get on it and then you
ride it, and it has to it has to be
a thing. So you if you whether you're playing right

(53:40):
left right, left right left, right left right, or just
with your bass drum one two three four one to
like it. It becomes like jogging or walking. The pendulum
starts and it's balanced, and you have to just kind
of concentrate on that balance. And then you know, ten

(54:00):
fifteen minutes later when you're doing that, not only do
you understand that, like you're getting closer to what I'm
talking about, but you actually feel better. You know, there's
something about just losing yourself and that balance of the
pendulum that is really good for your body and your whatever.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Your energy for work. A project that's coming up later
this year. I have to get into punk music.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
I tell you this, let's hear it.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Well, the project hasn't been announced yet, but I bought
a nineteen seventy nine Fender Strat and I've been trying
to onboard an interest in punk and trying to get
behind a whole new style of playing. Okay, because I've

(54:59):
just why did at this stage in my career, I
really want to do things I've never done before. Oh
So I'm I've never had a bucket list in my life.
I've always just kind of used a yes and approach
to things that came my way. But I'm pumped to
do things that I've never done before. So it's been
interesting to try to learn to play a new genre

(55:21):
of music, learn to appreciate a genre of music that
I wouldn't typically choose. Yeah, what do you like punk music? Well?

Speaker 2 (55:31):
I do. I mean Annale's kind of got me into
punk music other than like I guess my because I
never listened to it when I was growing up, but
I knew about it and I respected it, like bands
like Black Flag and like I always thought it was cool.
I appreciated the fact that they Someone like Ian mackay

(55:55):
from Minor Threat is like one of those people where
it's like when you say punk rock, it's like it's
literally everything has to be kind of the right way.
There's you know, the right way of punk is really
kind of being honest and true and not screwing people

(56:15):
over and not taking advantage of people. Like there's so
many incredible things, and Ian McKay is probably the best
person to kind of walk the walk because, like you know,
Minor Threat, he ended Minor Threat before they became popular
because it was too punk rock to have punk rock

(56:36):
to stop, I guess or Fugazi incredible band that influenced
Nirvana and all of these grunge bands, and he just
stops because it's punk rock, you know what I mean?
Like it's like so I would say, like, if you
want to learn about punk rock, I would say, that's
the people that really kind of portray what that is.

(56:59):
And I think Ian mackay took it up more than
any of the English. So sure, the Clash, for sure,
the mindset of the Clash. The sex Pistols I think
were more of a boy band version of what punk is,
even though they were so popular because they were Malcolm

(57:20):
McLaren literally just put them together and they were kind
of like supposed to be punk was manufactured. Sure, that's
why their interviews were always so ridiculous because it was
all supposed to be that way. You know, when you
get freaking Andy Warhol involved with your album artwork, like
you're not really punk rock, it's art.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
What classification do you give Blink one two?

Speaker 2 (57:47):
That's not punk rock, that's pop music. They might love,
they might love punk rock, they might love all of
the things that I said about punk rock, but they're not,
like they can't spen a Green Dah are not punk rock.
But they again, they might embody a lot of those
things of how the doing, the doing it that way.

(58:10):
But as soon as you're like your music is that
so catchy and commercial? That's not punk rock at all.
That's not are the opposite punk No, just because you
drank your headliners fucking rider and spit on people in

(58:30):
the crowd, that's not punk rock either. Actually, that's the
opposite of punk rock. That's just being disrespectful, you know,
like it's I love the Headstones, but fucking you would
be the first one to tell you how much of
an asshole he used to be. So I remember when
they were opening for us and he was just a dick.
So that's not punk rock. No, Like gg Allen, that's

(58:55):
punk rock because like he's doing all this shit and no,
he knows that, like this isn't gonna like be mainstream.
It's not looking for radio. You know, when you're wiping
ship on the stage, you're not trying to get on radio.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Is that an actual thing that actually happened?

Speaker 2 (59:16):
G g Allen? Yeah, cutting yourself, jumping on the shitting
your pants and then jumping in the audience like justus. Yeah,
but it's so no. But I'm glad you asked because
you know you're gonna do that. You should do the

(59:38):
follow the right kind of thing. Yeah, you know, there's
a lot of Death is a great band, Bad Brains.
There's incredible punk bands with such great musicians that you know,
dig it, get in there.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Sure, those are great references. I have some homework to do,
but I have a runway. I wanted to give myself
time to on board properly.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Yeah, my daughter loves the Dad Kennedy's she loves I
think her favorite one right now is The Dead Milkman
is probably your favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
She's into it. Yeah, all right, I'm gonna take my
wife for a lunch date. It's a Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
I have a good one. Enjoy twenty two in Truro.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
They have Haddock Burgers and chef Dennis is a bod.
So it'll be Friday that I'm home. We try to
do this together.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
We'll have a good one. But I have a great weekend,
and we'll talk to you all those bots soon.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Good job, but good