December 20, 2024 • 59 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Something went on hearing something on there, and.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
It's time on tn T jair left Twitter, should I
trump one? And was the Tyson fight real or fake?
It's all coming up right now on tn T. You Well,
the weather outside is delightful, but it feels like the
holiday season has started.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's definitely started.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, you know, I'll tell you something that warmed the
cockles of my aging heart.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I was standing in Mick mcmall the other day outside
of Laura se Cord, Carolyn Indigo were in there, and
women walked by with her daughter and said miss the podspot. Yeah,
And every now and then you're reminded in ways that
you hadn't considered that people like hearing us and and
mishearing us and would like to hear us more.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
That nice, That is nice.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I've I heard the same a couple of times actually,
And we're trying.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
We're as long as we say we're not.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
That's the whole thing. And we hope to do it more.
Always hope to do it more.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I'll say, yeah, Mick mcmull in Halifax is home to
Woody the Talking Christmas Tree.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
That's the one with the face, the wonderful that I
got to see when we did the book signing there.
Yeah was, I got that was. That was incredible. I
love that thing and it's famous, actually right.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It's famous, and it's famous for sort of being horrifying.
By the way, I should mention, Uh, my wife made
homemade chicken soup, and her homemade chicken soup and biscuits
are it's my favorite meal of hers. So there might
be some tinkering. Okay, I'm pounding a bit of soup
as we chat today.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Dig it, lucky you.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I don't think you don't think you'll even be able
to tell.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
No, that's like those weirdos that like like to have
meetings when they're eating and then like being all like
power conversation like.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, well you better get that sort of at the
end of the week.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
There's no problem. Honestly, I'll about it. But I think
we're going to schedule Bob, Like.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I remember, the worst producer I ever had was like
a guy who just eat his food while he's talking,
like doing stuff like stopping chomping and eating like we're
talking about takes.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It's the micro annoyances. I remember was doing someone Tushy
Radio few years ago and someone sat at a desk
in an open cubicle kind of area and the person
next to them did this one with their tea.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Oh yeah, the big pounding, but.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Like, how how do you have to stir it for
seventy seconds? Like probably like the grease world. That's good,
he probably got it stirred up. You don't need to
go at it like an oil rig.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
There's like a famous video of like a Scottish couple
or something and the guy's.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Like, honey, I like that. He's hitting the top of
the teacup after stirring.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
In his pound dounding it and the wife is in
the background and then she's loose.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Like ding ding ding ding ding thing like.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It's a freaking he's playing the cow bell and war or.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Something dingk tink, especially because sparingly it's very soothing.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, I'm sure, but not really when it's really cranking
and loud tink tink tink. So no, it was like
really pressing harm.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Ding dinging like that really intense.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
That you know that one like a flagpole in the
windstorm at camp, like.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
After it like after an argument.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Styles like Toast of the Bride and groom tink ting
ting ting ting ting yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Like, yeah, exactly, high tempo.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Dec This is Birthday weekend in our house and I
think I told you. Shug had a dinner party for hers,
which is really fun. And then Saturday night Indy had
some friends over and she made a short film that
took me in a classroom and they all played different
characters and had costumes and whatnot. The end of the
birthday weekend was Sunday night, where we went to see
(04:37):
Marianna's Trench at the Lighthouse Arts Center in Halifax. Indy's
favorite band this Joshua Ramsey. Yeah sang. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
He really pipes it up. Huh yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
He's got like Fallout boy level rock pipes. And he
is a song with Crogsy where the two of the
Raid vocal shreddings.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
He has a big hit history in Vancouver. He grew
up like I think Little Mountain Sound. His dad was
like a big producer there.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
No way, Yeah, he grew up in the scene.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
He also wrote call Me Maybe Yes, which is probably
like if that was the only thing you ever did,
that's enough to cement your financial legacy, like a man,
what's that song worth?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Hey? You know what.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
They're all bad, so you know they're all good folks.
Trench More Power, Yeah, for sure, definitely always thought they
were really kind.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well, Indy asked me if you would have crossed paths
with them, and my guess was probably at some much
music video Lord sometime.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
They opened up a few times for sure, did they
for you guys?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, Yeah, they're heavy players and they can really deliver
on the harms. I'm gonna tell you there were There
were a couple of takeaways that I was really pleasantly
surprised about. One is the sound quality at the Lighthouse
Arts Center Halifax. We had, like a lot of cities
this World Trade Center and it was like a convention center,
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and then Halifax built this big, new, glossy, shiny one
and so this space existed that was huge and had
no use. So it's sort of been co opted in
Halifax as home to a whole bunch of bunch of
art endeavors, like some dance studios you can rent, and
some recording studios. They have a few big studios. This
(06:31):
Hour has twenty two minute shoots there. And one thing
that Halifax was kind of missing is since the like
Misty Moon days, you guys probably played there at some
time over the years, did you, I think so, Yeah,
you're digitally enhanced at the moment a little bit.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Your voice is kind of cut.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Oh really, yeah, you're okay? Right now, I can hear
you which place you taught?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Which place are you.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Saying The Misty Moon in Halifax.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, definitely, but yeah back in the day.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, So, since the Misty Moon is no more like
a live music venue for the like six to eight hundred,
Patron's kind of space was kind of sorely lacking until
the Lighthouse Art Center open and that's where they have
dance shows and art things, and like the Sloans would
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play if they were in town at the Lighthouse Art Center,
so that was the venue for this thing. The sound
is insane. I know the guys behind it, and sound
is kind of their passion, so they made sure it
sounded terrific, which was great. The other thing is there's
an artist named Lolo who is from Toronto. Originally she's
a rocker. She opened for them, and I don't know
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if I've ever seen an opening act have the audience
so engaged. Normally, as you know better than anyone, people
are kind of filing in or going to get a
drink or getting ready, but people were in it with Lolo.
So if you like the rock music, check her out.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Nice, that's good.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I like the fresh going to the shows, the kids
and enjoying it and the whole rock experience their own
favorite music.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
That's great stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
It is great stuff. And I also love an all
ages show because there were people that are getting banged up,
for sure, but there were also like people of all
ages and lots of like I went with my mom
and we both loved the band kind of styles that
must happen at like OLP shows.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Now for sure, definitely. I mean it's always I think
once you're popular to the point where you're playing to
a couple thousand people or whatever, or if you have
a younger demographic and your following, yeah, it's in your
best interest to have all ages shows for sure. You know,
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I've been in an acoustic guitar guy my whole entire life,
as you know. But I finally I just got a
Fender Strat, a nineteen seventy nine Fender Strat, and it
is like I was a cat person my whole life
until I met Carol, and she was a dog person.
So I started getting dogs and all I could think
(09:13):
is I've missed so much of.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
My life not having a dog. I kind of feel
that way with an electric guitar, all of a sudden,
it's a whole different language.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, especially if you start farting around with sounds and
you know, and amps.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I had no idea you can really get going.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So shouts to Jake from Facebook Marketplace, a guy who
is from New Brunswick. We met at the mass Town
Market and did the trade in the parking lot. Was
super encouraging and kind and excited for me to be
going on this journey. But it has reinvigorated my relationship
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with bands that I already knew and loved, but also
has steered me to this whole new style of music
that I've never really played before.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It's awesome. Yes, I love that.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah, you've been you've been jamming on the rag with
the with the girls.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Some with the girls and some with I have this
uh pre set box by Bows. Then I plug the
guitar into on the way to the amp and so
there are a bunch of pre fab sounds in there.
So just living out my rock fantasy with it. And
I got some U I had a couple of gift cards,
(10:36):
so I got the headphones that you suggested so I
can listen and play along.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Oh yeah, nice, so fun.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And the Skys have opened up, so I actually have
some time on my hands these days to noodle in
the afternoon, like full pot of coffee and home alone,
ripping in the basement to the best.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
That's all I do every day, ripping in the bass.
Right now, I'm getting ready for the Limb Lifter show
and the thirtieth opening for fifty four to forty at
the dan Forth Music Hall.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
That should be a gas.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I bet that's sold out.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Probably, I'm not sure, but it's going to be a
great time. But I've been grinding the set and learning
the songs and talking to Ryan And.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Is that what they did they sent you the list?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, I've been talking to I've been talking to Ryan.
He reached out, I think in the summertime or early
summer well in advance and asked me if I had
any interest to do the show. And I love Limb Lifter.
I always thought there a great band. I thought Age
of Electric were great. And Ryan's also been involved with
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the Mounties and you know, they're all the stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
That he's done has been an amazing.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
He's a great singer, a great guitar player, and just
an amazing musician. So happily said definitely. And so we're
doing this show and at some point hopefully I'll go
to a studio and we'll.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Work on some tunes. So it's it's great. I love Ryan.
So it's been good, good times grinding this stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
That's so fun.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
You know you're learning. It's the same as the High
Fi set.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
When you're just learning like at least forty five fifty
minutes of music, you just kind of have to immerse
yourself in it to make it feel like so you
can kind of, I guess, know the changes that are
coming and feel them, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
So then do you learn each song independently or are
you learning the set list in order? And the reason
I ask is because what if at the last minute
they're like, We're actually going to swap this out for
this one.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
How do you prepare for that or they just won't. Yeah,
for the for Hi Fi, it was just songs and
no order. But with Limb Lifter, it's the set. So
I've had the set exactly how it is, and if
there are stuff like I've there's a couple extra songs
that I've learned just in you know, in case we
swap some stuff in and out. But yeah, so, I
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mean you just have to kind of first you have
to learn the arrangement and know the arrangement, and then
play it from beginning to end just to know the arrangement.
And then once you know that, you start playing it
to get the parts.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
And at least.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Know what you have to anticipate and what you have
to kind of you know, tempt the sound or dynamic wise,
you know, like loud, quiet, all that stuff. And then
I think it's more for me, especially when I like
the music, you get more into it. And then so
I listened to it as well. I'll play it a
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couple of times. I'll do the set and then I'll
also listen to the set just to kind of get
understandings to parts.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Kurt's a great drummer.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Kurt Doll, Ryan's brother who was in Limblifter but it's
now playing with the Odds actually, and always liked his drumming.
And also Eric, I'm not sure of his last name,
but he's a great drummer as well, also played with
Limblifter and his parts are like super complex complex, So
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there's a lot of like learning and understanding to both
because Kurt has a certain feel that I want at
least encapsulate a little bit, and he has a lot
of catchy drum fills that I want to do because
it's kind of big with parts of the songs, you
know what I mean. And yeah, So it's just kind
of understanding the nuances. And first and foremost easiest for
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me as a drummer, I gravitate towards a vocal, so
I always try to support the vocal, and the vocal
gives me tempo, and the vocal kind of oh that's interesting,
drives it for me because at least at worst, at worst,
the singer knows you're with them, and it's like, okay,
if if you're not listening to the singer, you should
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got something's wrong, you know what I mean. It's everyone
in the band if they're following the vocals, and I'm
following the vocals almost like a click track, that's my
that would be my click track, because it's you're crazy
to go against the tempo, especially if Ryan's singing and
playing guitar, So it's all following the vocal. Is going
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to guarantee I'm following his guitar because he's playing it right.
So that's the easiest way to play a song, is
to to just have the vocal carry everything.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
What instrument is the hardest to play in addition to singing.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
They're all as hard at a certain level, because it's
really hard to play a groove no matter on what,
whether it's a piano or a guitar or a bass,
Like it has to to have a pocket on something.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
That's really difficult. So you know, that's why.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I have to kind of listen to something when I'm
playing to hang my hat, you know, and you create
a tempo or a train, but the vocal kind of
takes you around it. That's why if you listen to
some of like Superman's Dead or One Man Army or
like some of the more complicated verse songs that we
had with OLP, I'm following the vocals like crazy, like
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almost like even like is Anybody Home? Like the drums
follow the vocal like a thread throughout the song. So
I mean that to me is it's also because you
can hide a cool groove with the vocal. If it
fits with the vocal, you can't step on the vocal though.
You know, you can play on the vocal, but it
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has to support it. You can't play on it and
then have it mess with it or else you're playing
with fire. Are you're gonna get you know, the producer
is gonna say, what the hell are you're thinking?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
You know? Interesting? So I guess the only downside of
that is if your singer can't keep good.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Time well, I mean in the studio everybody's doing on
a click track or whatever anyway, Yeah, and if if
you if you have bad rhythm as a singer, yeah,
I'm going to have a problem with that for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So is limlifter, I know American high fi with sort
of a different dialect for you, is limlifter more naturally.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
You well, I mean hi fi is is Stacy's a
drummer and Brian Nolan's a great drummer. So as a drummer,
it's like I can get that vibe from from from
the you know. And also Stacey's a sneaky great guitar
player too and singer as well, So that helps when
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you're playing with someone who's kind of like a there's
a there's a drummer there the temples are really strong,
and Ryan's a very seasoned guitar player and singer too,
so it's like they both have kind of rock solid
time anyway, so you can kind of, you know, be comfortable, you.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
You know, we haven't rehearsed yet, but it feels that way,
but you know, just by knowing and listening to them,
to him play.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
The Odds is a band that I've been playing along
to with my new Fender strat.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah, you love the Odds.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I know that I do like Eat my Brains as
great rock songs.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I always thought they were the one of the best
live bands in Canada, you know, therefore.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
The world and may.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
It a little bit.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Well, you could see them on a huge stage at
a festival with thirty thousand people, or in a small
club and they will always sound incredible, you know what
I mean. Doesn't matter where you're recording them, They're all
just they play to the room.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
What did fantastically on the stage in front of thirty
thousand people.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I saw them at festivals for sure. I mean I
remember seeing them at SunFest crushing it there. That was
out in Manitoba, and I'm sure they did lots of times.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Definitely.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, those guys plow they do.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Man, they do, they do. They've had many great drummers
the Odds. Patrick Stewart, who's back in the chair with
Brian Adams now no way since the Reckless Days. Yeah,
oh yeah, that's a good comeback, right in terms of like,
how what for a long time? Yeah, he was with
(19:58):
the Odds for a long time. But like he's literally
in the video for Summer of sixty nine. Whoa, And
now he's back doing it. So it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
So did Crag and Stephen from the Odds have a
falling out?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I have no idea. I love all those guys, and
I have no idea. That's all not your farm exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
A couple of other things, just on the subject of touring,
The arkell has just finished across Arkell's right Kells. Yeah,
they just crashed another cross country tour, just packing them
in stadiums. Yeah, crazy.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I love to see it.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
And they seem to be finding new and unique ways
to just blow the roof off places.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I'd say at this point they're kind of creating their own,
their own thing, Like it's a different level that nobody's
kind of ever gone that far. Like the hip were
always a massive arena band, but they didn't have as
much show and productionists and a sense you know what
I'm talking about, like the extra stuff. It's like they
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were kind of more like Pearl Jam. They don't really ever,
they don't really have production. They just have usually lights
and and and that's about it so you can see them,
which is kind of.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Old school for sure.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
But our Kels bring kind of more almost like a
pop sensibility to their shows, you know what I mean,
Like all the all the crazy pop shows that are
out there, from Olivia Rodrigo to Demi Levado, like they
put a lot of crazy stuff together, and Urkel's definitely
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kind of a I think they adopted some of that,
you know, even some of that that the way their
stage is kind of like it's.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
So broad and goes out into the audience.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah, it's it's it's more like almost like the pop
and even the hip hop artists too, just kind of
it's it's it's it gets you, I guess, closer to
the audience. It gives a different visual to everybody. It
just seems more like a show, I guess, you know,
you know, they have a huge band. It's just great
(22:11):
harmed players. Yeah, man, it's just such a fun thing
to see, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
So hypothetically, say you were Rkell's manager killing it in Canada,
can't get any bigger here, what would your strategy be
to grow the bass?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Well, I don't think i Astley does a pretty good job, right,
I would never to grow the bass. The only thing
that grows a bass, I guess is hit songs, right,
so like, yeah, another radio smash or American smash would
definitely take it up, and like they're ready to go,
like they could be cold play around the world at
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a switch of a.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Light, you know what I mean. Like, it's not difficult
for them. So that's all.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
It is one of those songs that just somehow connects
with the world in a way.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
And next thing you know, you're.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Playing stadiums in South America, so that around the world rips.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Once a year you do across Canada, banger, and then
just keep chipping away making in roads in Europe and
the States.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
What size shows are they playing in America?
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Would you say they still do a few thousand, a
couple thousand, like big, you know, big places in major
markets outside of Canada for sure, and they get a
lot of great they get. The thing is, they get
a lot of great festivals as well, right, they they
get a lot of really good festivals, and that's huge
as well. So again, if you can couple a song
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at radio with an appearance next thing, you know, you're
double your audience. But yeah, and especially in Europe, that's
I mean that the fans there, if you build a
live presence, you can have a long career, a lot
longer than than America. If you have six in that regard,
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you know what I mean. Like there's I still remember
shows that we did in Germany and just the fans
would just it just kept growing and growing.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Who told you to always keep a foot in Europe?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Well, I think anybody who.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
If you want to have a long longevity in music,
if the more continence you have a following, the better.
So like if you see something happen, if you see
some radio play, you should you should go there and
just get on it as much as you can, even
if you have to sleep in a van, because it
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will grow the band way bigger if they're there because
you're on the charts.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
That's the first thing to get.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Interviews, you know, if you're in a city that they
want to talk to bands that are charting, so you
just kind of have to jump on it. And if
that's not happening, it's it's very difficult, you know. That's
why opening big shows and getting a little bit of
radio and festivals that's.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Kind of the only way to go.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Okay, that's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Then that's it.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
With my new rock combo, with my new Fender Strat.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
And all the girls. Okay, they're in it.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Have you been where you are experiencing any Taylor swiftness?
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Oh it's bananas. And I'm not even I haven't even
been in the city once since she's been here, and
she's still doing it. I think like there's six shows
and she's done like four or five or are they
still going?
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I think she's done three and then she's got a
few days off and then like does Thursday to Saturday
two weeks in a row.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Oh that's how it goes. Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I was wondering, what is the Rogers Rogers Center, What
does it cost to just hold it? Let's just hold it?
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Hundreds of thousands of dollars a day? For sure.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Wow, So like, yeah, days off for just like a
huge dollar signs coming out of the dome.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Well, like, let's assume that how many days would it
take to load in.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Don't see this, dude, the.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Trucks alone or a million dollars probably just sitting there
right like hotels, Like, it's just that's all part and
parcel of the gross versus the net.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Right.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
So that's when you're talking about a billion dollar tour,
that these are billion dollar expenses you're seeing.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
My feeling was if I was her and I was
doing three shows and I was in Roger Center, it's
such a pain to go anywhere. Yeah, I'd probably just
have the nicest bus in the world and.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Just stay there in the dome.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, where are you going?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
But that's not how she rolls. She's probably got the
top floor of the of the what is it the
setting or what are they then the Rits? Yeah, either
the Ritz or whatever, the one in York Yorkville.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
So you you finish the show at ten thirty, you're
at the Ritz by ten fifty, and then your call
the next afternoon is four pm.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I guess so, because like you know, when she goes
around town, she has the like the the cops and
the black SUVs with the lights like to get you
and stopping traffic to get you where you're going. Like
she's got literally the run of like the run of downtown, right.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I don't think there is. There is like royalty and
this is a.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Whole new level when they actually shut down the city
around your around your gig, and your gig happens to
be right downtown Toronto.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I'm sure there's people are probably getting furious now because
there's no there's no way to get around down there anyway,
and everybody's like there's a thousand million Ubers just kind
of cruising around to right, Like that's coupled with everybody.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Living down there.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
If you pretty like you're looking for an uber down
that two seconds you're getting an Uber. That's like all
the cars are Ubers, right if yeah, if there was
no Ubers downtown, behalf the cars.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Well as you know, uh, we saw her and it
was a real positive experience and personally like her music
or don't, I'm all for it something probably fun that
people are excited about and can look forward to and
get dressed up for. Don't care if it's Metallica or
(28:50):
Taylor Swift or Michael Buble.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
It's great anytime it's music and people just you know,
in case anyone's ever forgot and like, oh, you know,
being in a band's hard, or being in music is
nobody does it.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
There's no money in it.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
And it's like you look at that, Well, this is
music and it's obviously never been more popular or big
than it is right now, And I mean there has
to be some kind of hope to know that it's
still the biggest driving force economically for media or public
(29:27):
stuff is music, and that's that's a good thing, no
matter what.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Plus matter, there's no fandom in the world like teenage
girl fandom.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I was struck by that people screaming lyrics in a
language they didn't learn first, screaming lyrics and giels at
the top of their lungs like that they might not
even understand in some cases, but they know every single word.
That's pretty powerful.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
That's the best take a break, take it back about
So this is.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
You.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I did actually because it was free and it was
quite the spectacle, and I just wanted, like I thought
that Tyson would like take a dive in like the
fifth rounders, and honestly, that's what I thought was gonna happen,
and then uh so, but it turns out that he
(30:29):
was like, you know, could have clobbered him, but didn't
clab room obviously, and it was Tyson. So it just
ended up just being boring as hell to watch because
like Tyson was just kind of standing there and Paul
was just kind of acting tough and throwing throwing bunches
(30:51):
that were just like not doesn't even matter, like not
any inflicted pain whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Okay, I'm I'm extremely nice lead and gullible.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
But well, I mean there's there was one punch at
the beginning, like when the fight first started from Tyson,
and it was kind of like an old school coming
at you and then going down and then throwing a
right that lands and like literally like what knocks his
job back and he looked visibly visibly shaken, like, way,
(31:23):
what are you doing, bro? Like that's not the plans
styles like it was that's was the face like wait
a second.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Man, right, I just want to make sure and that was.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
It, Like there was no there was no more real
aggression from Tyson throughout the rest of the fight. It
was more just kind of hanging around and boring and
making you know, everyone everybody's saying, oh, he looks hurt,
he looks hurt.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
There's something wrong with him. You know. They were playing
that narrative, which was just what f salad? It is
just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Jake Jake Poe was the promoter of the fight. Yes,
he made forty million.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
And everyone there is hired by him and his people, right,
so it's like it's just the the everybody blowing sunshine
up his ass from from the back, you know, right,
or else you don't come back. Mike Tysons twenty million, Yeah,
forty for Paul and twenty for Tyson.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
So if someone saying you want to make it a
great fight, pay them both twenty and the winner gets
the extra twenty.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Well, I mean, the the bottom line is this, there's
it's fake like that. Probably from the get go, it's like, no,
this is this is like more like wrestling, you know,
where Vince McMahon saying, okay, this is what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Okay, so everyone is just expencting this is no.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
But at this point people are buying in as if
it is real, like real, So the we're I guess
like first fans of wrestling that sure wrestling is they
say it's fake, but it's very hard and they take
a lot of damage to their bodies. And this is
kind of similar in the sense where it's like they're
actually taking punches and throwing punches, but there's an ending and.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Then that's that. But it's like it makes sense.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
It's smart marketing because people still are gonna say, oh,
is it real? It's fake, and there's no way they
can prove it. It's a privately owned entertainment production, so
they don't have to say anything. They don't have anyone
to answer to, Like there's no title, so there's no
boxing commission, right, there's no it's it's just bs. So
(33:42):
it's like entertainment and they got sixty million people that
watched it, and that makes sense. So if I or him,
I do the same thing, like, you know, never never
losing or maybe taking a loss.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
To make people think that it is real, you know,
once in a while.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
But he also made twenty million bucks.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yes exactly that.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Who cares, it's perfect, That's why he's joking around the
whole time. So do you think it's they approach him
and say, look, we have this idea for this thing.
It would be epic. You'll yeah, every but you need
to let me win.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Every person that's fottom that's probably starts with like, listen,
this is this isn't real obviously, Like as if you
were doing a reality show, right, like Survivor people. Survivor
people think it's real. It's all real. All those shows
are all real. They think it's like ninety Day Fiance
(34:40):
is real. If you if you watch it, do you
think it's supposed to be real?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Right?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
But you know about the TV part? How much of
it's actually real?
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Not much?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Right?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Well? I know that that aspects, depending on the format,
aspects of it are real. For example, like we're watching
Love is Blind, right now, do you know the premise,
Like let's say ten guys and ten girls. They speed
date in these pods separated by a wall, so you
don't see the person you're talking to.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
So is what is the point to find love? Or
is there contestants to win money? No, the point is
to find love.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
So so at a certain point you're like, you know what,
I talked to all of them on their maths, but
I really feel like Carol is my person and someone
very special to me. You have to propose to someone's
sight unseen, then you get to see each other face
to face. So the question is love really blind?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
So I feel like the people choose who they chose.
I think that is real. I think you can sway
if you're a producer, you can sway people in your interviews,
Like do you like Calvin?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I do?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Really? Yeah? Why? Oh, he just said he thought you
were kind of what kind of what? No, he just
said he thought you were kind of obnoxious. You know
who's obnoxious is Calvin? And they just use that SoundBite.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
I also know it's so it's the producers that are
planting the bs for sure.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah. I also know once something starts to pop, they
pull on that thread to get good moments. Right, Yeah,
so someone freaks out and then they just throw gas
on it to keep it going. But I think I
think who the people choose, I think that is real.
But I think they also Charlie Brown. It's called frank
(36:35):
and biting the interview clips so that you can hear
someone say I really like Trevor. He seems great because
they're just stealing words from different places and creating a
story in post.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
So you're saying that they cut it that much.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Definitely, no way, really, Yeah, my ear is tuned to it.
So if you hear clip, if you don't see the
person's mouth moving on, like they'll start to say, here's
the thing about Tyler, then they'll cut to some b
roll of Tyler and then they can call them together
whatever they want, and.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Like I want to fucking kill him.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yeah, then it is like, wait a second, where did
that go?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, And she might have said Mary, but they just
swap out the word kill for I would kill.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
I always do say, like the the damning stuff when
there's like just b roll or just audio.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Love it, Frank and biting.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Frank in biting, I love it.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
And that's an editor's trick as old as time. So
a lot of those stories are born in post production.
I think in the case of Survivor, for example, or
any show where they have to give away a ton
of money as a prize, I think the law like
you can't meddle with the gameplay. The winner has to
be the winner and have to get whatever bonuses or
(38:02):
spoils come with winning that challenge. Where they can mess
around is in the interviews, getting them to trash other
players in the game and creating tension where it might
not exist, because the real problem is most of these
shows they sit around for nineteen hours a day and
nothing really happens.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
And then but then there's like the bear grills or
he's like, I'm on the side of the mountain, but
there's like catering van like right behind the camera.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Well, how about the amazing race where the camera guy
or gal is doing what the teams are doing, but
backwards and faster to be in front of them. Right,
How insane are is their conditioning with a camera on their.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Shoulders running backwards?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Or the Olympic hockey camera person in the white next
thing who has to do four games a day at speed.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know about that. That's like
a whole new level. You're right.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
But I think what it comes down to is I
think I would be I would be shocked to know
what is fake and what I take as gospel. Like, yeah,
like the Trump presidency, Like what was that assassination attempt?
Was that really stage? Yeah? Yeah, I know some people
(39:30):
say unequivocally, like no question he when he went down,
he stayed down. Like, have you watched the security footage
of Reagan get shot and how hard they tackled him
to the ground and put him in the back.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Of I know, I know, and there's no getting up.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
His injuries were from the Secret Service tackling him, not
from the gun shot. So not to believe that they
let him say, give me a second, i want to
put my shoes on, and I'm going to stick my
head out and yell fight a bunch of times like
I'm not even and like I say, I'm naive and gullible.
But even that was a little fishy.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Well, I mean, and there's no real investigation into the
two people that died, the guy who shot and the
guy who got shot. You just hear the guy who
got shot, but there's no, like, you haven't heard any
kind of.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Investigation as to what happened for real.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
And the number of people that were like, yeah, we
saw a guy crawling up on the thing and we
told police and they're like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah, it's all too foggy to believe anyway.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
But also it's foggy to believe that every person in
law enforcement was informed at the start of that work day,
just so you know this thing's going to happen and
ignore it. That's not plausible either.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
That's the least of the worries of what's going on
down there right now.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Though.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
The fact that he's back and.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Back in black, crazy and with more power than ever.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Oh man, that's some scary stuff. Man, I don't even
want to think about it.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Were you surprised?
Speaker 3 (41:09):
I was, actually I was very surprised. Yeah. The biggest
surprise is the twenty million less votes than last time
for Harris compared to Biden. Like, that's when people said
they showed up. I don't think that shows that. I
know they're talking about possibly losing votes or whatever, but whatever,
(41:30):
bottom line is, there should have been more support for Harris, obviously,
and you get what you get.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
And this is what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
People are going to understand the tariffs equal more inflation
and more expenses, and this mass deportation thing is real
and he's using the military to carry it through.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
And that's some scary stuff, man, Like, that's.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Something that Americans haven't seen decades, and that's something that's
a reality check for people, Like it's I can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
I really can't.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Once again, the communities that the people.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
That he's putting in power in his cabinet are I
think the worst of the worst.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Like it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
The people that you might have expected would have showed
up for her didn't. And that's the like Biden did
better with young blackmail voters.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Yeah, I don't know what the hell's going on, But.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Jeremy, on the subject of what is going on, I
saw that you left Twitter.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
I did, yes, tell me about that well, because I
started just seeing these posts all of a sudden, and
not just necessarily in the for you, but just not
just that. You would see a post and then you
look at the replies and it's like, I think it was, uh,
(43:00):
it was something to do with like a proud boys,
like white supremacist. One of them had is literally a
swastika on his T shirt and they were talking to
a protester and trying to reason with a protester about
what they think. And then I looked at the comments
and all the comments were just like yeah, brother.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
That's how you do it.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
And it was like everybody was like right, psychopath like
horrifying and almost to the point where it's like, that's
all the replies were. There was nobody sympathizing with the
other side at whatsoever. And that's when I'm like, Okay,
this place is just really it's actually getting out of hand,
(43:44):
and I think it's maybe not safe to be on here,
because if it's a lot of these types of people
are on here, and that's who I'm talking to, I
don't want these people in my life whatsoever, you know,
and who knows where this is going to go from here.
The fact that it's so toxic and it's allowed to
(44:06):
be that way, I just think it's a negative, too
negative reflection of society to be kind of inundated with,
and I just choose not to take part of it
at all anymore.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
So my thing is, I'm I'm going to make the
same decision you did. My thing is I am still
mourning what it was because I love ye. Yes. Of
the platforms, that was the one I loved because it
was like a one liner joke machine testing ground. It
was if the oscars are on or the gray cup
(44:41):
is on, where everyone kind of gathers, and it was
a temp check how do people feel about this? I
just have to accept that it's not what it was.
But it's just also the platform that I went all
in on, and I still find myself when stuff happens
in the world thinking, oh, I wonder what the buzz
is on Twitter about it. But obviously the things that
(45:03):
I post the people that follow me don't see. I
see things of people that I am not following, Like
it doesn't work anymore. But it's also just the shortest
shorthand easiest reach I know to say I'm doing the
same Wednesday at ten or hey, if you get a chance,
watch this, But yeah, I just need to pull the plug.
(45:24):
Part of the problem for me is I haven't embraced Instagram.
It hasn't landed for me the way that Twitter once did,
so I haven't really figured out a role for Instagram
in my life. I think I might overthink it or
should just be less selective about what I choose to show.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Well, I mean you should, definitely, you should definitely try.
Blue Sky is what people a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Seem to have been going to.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
And.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Threads.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Although it's Zuckerberg, it's I'm sure they know what the problem.
Baganda isn't great on Facebook or Instagram either, but Threads
is a little bit more like Twitter, because it's at
least people that I've noticed that, if anything, there's just
only what people post and kind of normal replies, so
(46:18):
it's not as much activity, but there's not as much negativity.
But I haven't gone on Blue Sky yet, but I've
heard that a lot of people are on there, So
I don't know, if you know, either those are probably
a better place to be the similar a similar feedback
of or at least letting people know what's going on,
you know. I find that Instagram is enough for me
(46:39):
to convey whatever I need to convey.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
H Twitter, I do.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Yeah, I loved it too for that same thing, like
instant feedback and just kind of enjoying.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
The back and forth.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
But it just, yeah, it got too so toxic that
I felt like this is not this isn't a good
spot to be.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yeah, Like, for example, for the last three or four years,
on Twitter, every day or once a year around the holidays,
I invite people to share a picture or a memory
of somebody that's no longer with us, and it kind
of becomes this beautiful quilt of grief and loss and
(47:22):
kind of healing, kind of therapeutic, and I think people
look forward to it in a strange way. I do too,
and it feels really nice, Like I don't feel like
Instagram is the place to do that.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah, not really.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
That's the thing, Like you can make people do a
lot of replying in comments. There's definitely a feeling of
what your people that follow you in the comments. That's
a thing, but you won't see their pick story is
in the same regard without the pictures of when you
(47:58):
can do that with Twitter. But that's why people maybe
threads is better because you can do the exact same
thing to people that are following you the same on Twitter,
it's basically copied because I'm sure Zuckerberg's like, man, this
guy's doing pretty poorly. I'm gonna make the sane copy
of Twitter, and you know, see if at least there'll
(48:21):
be something similar and a lot of people have been
on there and enjoying it. It's definitely a smaller percentage
of the people, but like it's still kind of the
same as it was.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Are your kids on the snapchat or anything?
Speaker 3 (48:37):
They're all like, my anales is on Twitter, John's on Twitter. Jack,
I don't even think he does. Jack's on Instagram a
little bit, but just to look at stuff, not to
post things. That's kind of what they're mostly like. They're
all anonymous, and they either post in an anonymous forum sense,
(49:05):
or they don't post at all, or they private.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
You know, if Anna's going to talk to friends, is
that a snapchat thing?
Speaker 3 (49:14):
I think she has friends on Twitter or discord. There's
another one. The kids kind of do not snapchat. I
don't think any of them do snapchat or TikTok. None
of them do TikTok.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
TikTok.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
Yeah, there's so many. My guy, I don't do the
tiktoks people. I don't even like. Someone sends me a TikTok,
I can't even look at it because I don't want
to go to the TikTok.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
You're not going to get on there with your drum
tutorials and what have you.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
I don't think. I don't.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
I don't think it's necessary to me. I don't know
if something, Yeah, I don't. I don't understand it, to
be honest. That's why you know everything's shorter on there.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
I guess, right, I guess.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
So I'm also not actively selling anything or actively promoting anything. Yeah, well,
I'm easy to find, so usually if someone's looking for me.
I'm there.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Just just sail nail me, man, it's probably snail nail me.
I kind of liked that, like coming up on TV
when before the Internet, people would send letters and it
might be like ten days by the time you get
the letter about a thing you did last week, so
you couldn't get shook or try to incorporate feedback in
(50:42):
real time. Yeah, right, Yes, You're going to make the
best decision you could with the information you had available
to you and put out the thing that you meant
instead of trying to anticipate what people might get rouffled.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
Yeah, and by the time they got it or over it,
so like if they're mad, then then you're like, ah,
so sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
I did a panel on a CBC radio thing about
Pierre Polyev wanting to dismantle CBC within the first hundred
days of getting elected, and they had done a panel
with three people that were in favor of that, and
then I was on the panel of people that were
defending it. That's a tough slog, man.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
How was that that must So it was like literally
three on three Live.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
They did they did them separately.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Okay, so you just had to give your piece.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
I was part of the echo chamber. Yeah, being pro CBC.
But it is a tough go because the challenge of
the public broadcaster is to be all things to all people,
and so it can't be compared. Its success can't be
compared with the same metrics that you would use for CTV,
(51:53):
which is a private broadcaster in a business. But if
you're saying CBC is all things to all people in
everyone's voice should be heard, that includes uh, people with
views that don't align with yours.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
See, that's where I got it. That's where I can't
deal with its people. You know, you can see you
can so lefty.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
We don't get any airtime there.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
I know. But when it's like, well, you know, we
kind of.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
Want to be a little bit more anti immigration, or
we want to be like, uh, you know, be against
women's rights or whatever things that are that seem to
be always in the rhetoric of conservatives at the moment
where it's gotten a so out of hand that this
(52:40):
all toxic lies, you know, to just to to have
that on the air and acceptable.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
It's just we've seen what that what that does in America.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
Yeah, I mean that's Fox News when you have these
people on and they keep talking and talking. All of
a sudden, people don't know what the hell's up, what down?
And next thing you know, women's rights are going out
the window, and the courts are full with creeps, I know,
and they're going to change all the laws to ruin
people's lives.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Man.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
That's the challenge, though, that's the challenge with this conversation.
If you're saying that it's everybody's, then everybody includes people
whose beliefs are not ones that you agree with.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
Well that's that's where it gets insane. So yeah, you
want to get nuts, and that's what's going to happen
that they won't be any public broadcasting.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
I know. It's also crazy to like, I feel like,
especially if you're making a comedy, you want to be
on the offense. You don't want to be on the defense.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:45):
This is another one of those things where you know,
who gets it in the end, is anyone.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
Who's creative loses.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:52):
So there's just more more of the same stuff. Okay,
it's just more out of work journalists more out of work, right,
and actors Okay, now what okay.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
So what are we doing for public?
Speaker 2 (54:05):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (54:05):
No, let's just give Netflix another twenty million dollars so
they can give me a hand job in the back
of the paramount.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
Well, Netflix has actually figured it out because they don't
report any audience metrics to the creators of the shows,
so you can't go back to them and say, I
have the number two show on Netflix. Give me more money,
because they'll never tell you how it's doing. There's public buzz,
but that that's not ratings per se. And the other
thing is the people that own the show make money.
(54:33):
But like, I'm not getting Trailer Park Boys royalties from Netflix.
People assume we are, like, oh man, you guys must
be rolling in it. No, mister d being on Netflix
doesn't do anything for me.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
It's it's I don't know. It's like the.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
Fact that things have gotten to the point where this
is what people want, then this is what then gets
you know, that's what's going to happen, Like healthcare is
already at the point where it's being choked to look
like private is the only alternative. Like that's definitely happening.
(55:18):
It's going to happen more in our schools to make
it more and more seeming like oh, we just they're
not learning. They need another option. Well, we'll have to
have private. Private's the new way. Look at how amazing
this is, and that's it. It'll be the end of
all that stuff with that guy. That'll be it. Yeah,
that'll be it. It's like, okay, you got it. You're
(55:39):
going to see but everything that you thought you had
is going to be gone and it's just all going
to be privatized. And the people that have lots of
dough are going to get even more and the people
that have less are getting even less. That's just how
it's going to turn out. It's there's people people are
just blindly walking into a pit.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
I think Paulief probably wants an election to be called
sooner rather than later because he's going to step in it.
It's just a matter of time. So he's trying to
get the election to happen before.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
We because Trudeau, and Trudeau is like too stubborn to
realize that he can't like he like he must know,
but he mustn't think that he can actually win, like
there's there's no chance, Like that's the And that was
probably what hurt Harris was the fact that she had that,
(56:39):
you know, whatever amount of time taken away by Biden
not stepping down. Yeah, that's what needs to happen right now.
If the Liberals want any chance is they got to
get rid of Trudeau right away. And honestly, anybody else
would be better at this point if they want to
having another election, I don't know, but and and if
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they had somebody with any respectability or can sympathize with
the people whatsoever, then they would have a really good chance.
You know, because the way that things are looking, there's
seemingly very little respect for drug meat singing. I don't
(57:23):
know why, but it seems like it's always like he's
always taken heat for something when it's like what, like
I what control do the NDP have Yet he's always
getting blamed for something just because he was aligned with
the Liberals for a minutees like, man, it makes sense
that they tried to do that because at least there
(57:43):
was a they're looking for the future of the party.
So it's just frustrating in that regard. So Trudeau's gotta
definitely understand that they can't win with them.
Speaker 1 (57:55):
Somebody needs to get that through their noggins.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
Look at us, we became political podcast.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
You know, that's how we do it here on t IF,
I was.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
Like, it's a job that on the best of days,
when you take off his fifty percent of people think
you're an idiot.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
Absolutely, that's it, just the math for sure.
Speaker 2 (58:16):
If I was him after this many terms, I'd be like,
you know what, I'm good. I'm gonna play the gat Nos.
Speaker 1 (58:27):
We're gonna play some.
Speaker 2 (58:28):
Sinc on at Quebec and dear some shouting on my
way to the tim or than but really you'll never
see me again.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
Exactly, just chilling at the lock.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
Not such a bad existence.
Speaker 1 (58:42):
Really, no, take it, take a break, but.
Speaker 2 (58:49):
Yeah, take a break, but you earned it. Also, like
he can go on Tinder and like, uh, that's that's right,
you can wheel everybody like he's a single guy. His
kids are almost out the door justin two point oh yeah,
like his little bios like Prime Minister of Canada l O. L. Tenas.
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He'll be a popular girl in no time.
Speaker 1 (59:18):
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
A special guest in the house tonight is say hello
to the Prime Ministers of Canada.
Speaker 1 (59:29):
All right bye, good chatting, good chatting. Bob
Something went on hearing something on there, and.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
It's time on tn T jair left Twitter, should I
trump one? And was the Tyson fight real or fake?
It's all coming up right now on tn T. You Well,
the weather outside is delightful, but it feels like the
holiday season has started.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's definitely started.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, you know, I'll tell you something that warmed the
cockles of my aging heart.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I was standing in Mick mcmall the other day outside
of Laura se Cord, Carolyn Indigo were in there, and
women walked by with her daughter and said miss the podspot. Yeah,
And every now and then you're reminded in ways that
you hadn't considered that people like hearing us and and
mishearing us and would like to hear us more.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
That nice, That is nice.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I've I heard the same a couple of times actually,
And we're trying.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
We're as long as we say we're not.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
That's the whole thing. And we hope to do it more.
Always hope to do it more.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I'll say, yeah, Mick mcmull in Halifax is home to
Woody the Talking Christmas Tree.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
That's the one with the face, the wonderful that I
got to see when we did the book signing there.
Yeah was, I got that was. That was incredible. I
love that thing and it's famous, actually right.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It's famous, and it's famous for sort of being horrifying.
By the way, I should mention, Uh, my wife made
homemade chicken soup, and her homemade chicken soup and biscuits
are it's my favorite meal of hers. So there might
be some tinkering. Okay, I'm pounding a bit of soup
as we chat today.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Dig it, lucky you.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I don't think you don't think you'll even be able
to tell.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
No, that's like those weirdos that like like to have
meetings when they're eating and then like being all like
power conversation like.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, well you better get that sort of at the
end of the week.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
There's no problem. Honestly, I'll about it. But I think
we're going to schedule Bob, Like.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I remember, the worst producer I ever had was like
a guy who just eat his food while he's talking,
like doing stuff like stopping chomping and eating like we're
talking about takes.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It's the micro annoyances. I remember was doing someone Tushy
Radio few years ago and someone sat at a desk
in an open cubicle kind of area and the person
next to them did this one with their tea.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Oh yeah, the big pounding, but.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Like, how how do you have to stir it for
seventy seconds? Like probably like the grease world. That's good,
he probably got it stirred up. You don't need to
go at it like an oil rig.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
There's like a famous video of like a Scottish couple
or something and the guy's.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Like, honey, I like that. He's hitting the top of
the teacup after stirring.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
In his pound dounding it and the wife is in
the background and then she's loose.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Like ding ding ding ding ding thing like.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It's a freaking he's playing the cow bell and war or.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Something dingk tink, especially because sparingly it's very soothing.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, I'm sure, but not really when it's really cranking
and loud tink tink tink. So no, it was like
really pressing harm.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Ding dinging like that really intense.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
That you know that one like a flagpole in the
windstorm at camp, like.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
After it like after an argument.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Styles like Toast of the Bride and groom tink ting
ting ting ting ting yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Like, yeah, exactly, high tempo.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Dec This is Birthday weekend in our house and I
think I told you. Shug had a dinner party for hers,
which is really fun. And then Saturday night Indy had
some friends over and she made a short film that
took me in a classroom and they all played different
characters and had costumes and whatnot. The end of the
birthday weekend was Sunday night, where we went to see
(04:37):
Marianna's Trench at the Lighthouse Arts Center in Halifax. Indy's
favorite band this Joshua Ramsey. Yeah sang. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
He really pipes it up. Huh yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
He's got like Fallout boy level rock pipes. And he
is a song with Crogsy where the two of the
Raid vocal shreddings.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
He has a big hit history in Vancouver. He grew
up like I think Little Mountain Sound. His dad was
like a big producer there.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
No way, Yeah, he grew up in the scene.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
He also wrote call Me Maybe Yes, which is probably
like if that was the only thing you ever did,
that's enough to cement your financial legacy, like a man,
what's that song worth?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Hey? You know what.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
They're all bad, so you know they're all good folks.
Trench More Power, Yeah, for sure, definitely always thought they
were really kind.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well, Indy asked me if you would have crossed paths
with them, and my guess was probably at some much
music video Lord sometime.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
They opened up a few times for sure, did they
for you guys?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, Yeah, they're heavy players and they can really deliver
on the harms. I'm gonna tell you there were There
were a couple of takeaways that I was really pleasantly
surprised about. One is the sound quality at the Lighthouse
Arts Center Halifax. We had, like a lot of cities
this World Trade Center and it was like a convention center,
(06:09):
and then Halifax built this big, new, glossy, shiny one
and so this space existed that was huge and had
no use. So it's sort of been co opted in
Halifax as home to a whole bunch of bunch of
art endeavors, like some dance studios you can rent, and
some recording studios. They have a few big studios. This
(06:31):
Hour has twenty two minute shoots there. And one thing
that Halifax was kind of missing is since the like
Misty Moon days, you guys probably played there at some
time over the years, did you, I think so, Yeah,
you're digitally enhanced at the moment a little bit.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Your voice is kind of cut.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Oh really, yeah, you're okay? Right now, I can hear
you which place you taught?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Which place are you.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Saying The Misty Moon in Halifax.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, definitely, but yeah back in the day.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, So, since the Misty Moon is no more like
a live music venue for the like six to eight hundred,
Patron's kind of space was kind of sorely lacking until
the Lighthouse Art Center open and that's where they have
dance shows and art things, and like the Sloans would
(07:20):
play if they were in town at the Lighthouse Art Center,
so that was the venue for this thing. The sound
is insane. I know the guys behind it, and sound
is kind of their passion, so they made sure it
sounded terrific, which was great. The other thing is there's
an artist named Lolo who is from Toronto. Originally she's
a rocker. She opened for them, and I don't know
(07:44):
if I've ever seen an opening act have the audience
so engaged. Normally, as you know better than anyone, people
are kind of filing in or going to get a
drink or getting ready, but people were in it with Lolo.
So if you like the rock music, check her out.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Nice, that's good.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I like the fresh going to the shows, the kids
and enjoying it and the whole rock experience their own
favorite music.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
That's great stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
It is great stuff. And I also love an all
ages show because there were people that are getting banged up,
for sure, but there were also like people of all
ages and lots of like I went with my mom
and we both loved the band kind of styles that
must happen at like OLP shows.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Now for sure, definitely. I mean it's always I think
once you're popular to the point where you're playing to
a couple thousand people or whatever, or if you have
a younger demographic and your following, yeah, it's in your
best interest to have all ages shows for sure. You know,
(08:53):
I've been in an acoustic guitar guy my whole entire life,
as you know. But I finally I just got a
Fender Strat, a nineteen seventy nine Fender Strat, and it
is like I was a cat person my whole life
until I met Carol, and she was a dog person.
So I started getting dogs and all I could think
(09:13):
is I've missed so much of.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
My life not having a dog. I kind of feel
that way with an electric guitar, all of a sudden,
it's a whole different language.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, especially if you start farting around with sounds and
you know, and amps.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I had no idea you can really get going.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So shouts to Jake from Facebook Marketplace, a guy who
is from New Brunswick. We met at the mass Town
Market and did the trade in the parking lot. Was
super encouraging and kind and excited for me to be
going on this journey. But it has reinvigorated my relationship
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with bands that I already knew and loved, but also
has steered me to this whole new style of music
that I've never really played before.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It's awesome. Yes, I love that.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah, you've been you've been jamming on the rag with
the with the girls.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Some with the girls and some with I have this
uh pre set box by Bows. Then I plug the
guitar into on the way to the amp and so
there are a bunch of pre fab sounds in there.
So just living out my rock fantasy with it. And
I got some U I had a couple of gift cards,
(10:36):
so I got the headphones that you suggested so I
can listen and play along.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Oh yeah, nice, so fun.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And the Skys have opened up, so I actually have
some time on my hands these days to noodle in
the afternoon, like full pot of coffee and home alone,
ripping in the basement to the best.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
That's all I do every day, ripping in the bass.
Right now, I'm getting ready for the Limb Lifter show
and the thirtieth opening for fifty four to forty at
the dan Forth Music Hall.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
That should be a gas.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I bet that's sold out.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Probably, I'm not sure, but it's going to be a
great time. But I've been grinding the set and learning
the songs and talking to Ryan And.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Is that what they did they sent you the list?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, I've been talking to I've been talking to Ryan.
He reached out, I think in the summertime or early
summer well in advance and asked me if I had
any interest to do the show. And I love Limb Lifter.
I always thought there a great band. I thought Age
of Electric were great. And Ryan's also been involved with
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the Mounties and you know, they're all the stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
That he's done has been an amazing.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
He's a great singer, a great guitar player, and just
an amazing musician. So happily said definitely. And so we're
doing this show and at some point hopefully I'll go
to a studio and we'll.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Work on some tunes. So it's it's great. I love Ryan.
So it's been good, good times grinding this stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
That's so fun.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
You know you're learning. It's the same as the High
Fi set.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
When you're just learning like at least forty five fifty
minutes of music, you just kind of have to immerse
yourself in it to make it feel like so you
can kind of, I guess, know the changes that are
coming and feel them, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
So then do you learn each song independently or are
you learning the set list in order? And the reason
I ask is because what if at the last minute
they're like, We're actually going to swap this out for
this one.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
How do you prepare for that or they just won't. Yeah,
for the for Hi Fi, it was just songs and
no order. But with Limb Lifter, it's the set. So
I've had the set exactly how it is, and if
there are stuff like I've there's a couple extra songs
that I've learned just in you know, in case we
swap some stuff in and out. But yeah, so, I
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mean you just have to kind of first you have
to learn the arrangement and know the arrangement, and then
play it from beginning to end just to know the arrangement.
And then once you know that, you start playing it
to get the parts.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
And at least.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Know what you have to anticipate and what you have
to kind of you know, tempt the sound or dynamic wise,
you know, like loud, quiet, all that stuff. And then
I think it's more for me, especially when I like
the music, you get more into it. And then so
I listened to it as well. I'll play it a
(13:48):
couple of times. I'll do the set and then I'll
also listen to the set just to kind of get
understandings to parts.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Kurt's a great drummer.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Kurt Doll, Ryan's brother who was in Limblifter but it's
now playing with the Odds actually, and always liked his drumming.
And also Eric, I'm not sure of his last name,
but he's a great drummer as well, also played with
Limblifter and his parts are like super complex complex, So
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there's a lot of like learning and understanding to both
because Kurt has a certain feel that I want at
least encapsulate a little bit, and he has a lot
of catchy drum fills that I want to do because
it's kind of big with parts of the songs, you
know what I mean. And yeah, So it's just kind
of understanding the nuances. And first and foremost easiest for
(14:52):
me as a drummer, I gravitate towards a vocal, so
I always try to support the vocal, and the vocal
gives me tempo, and the vocal kind of oh that's interesting,
drives it for me because at least at worst, at worst,
the singer knows you're with them, and it's like, okay,
if if you're not listening to the singer, you should
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got something's wrong, you know what I mean. It's everyone
in the band if they're following the vocals, and I'm
following the vocals almost like a click track, that's my
that would be my click track, because it's you're crazy
to go against the tempo, especially if Ryan's singing and
playing guitar, So it's all following the vocal. Is going
(15:34):
to guarantee I'm following his guitar because he's playing it right.
So that's the easiest way to play a song, is
to to just have the vocal carry everything.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
What instrument is the hardest to play in addition to singing.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
They're all as hard at a certain level, because it's
really hard to play a groove no matter on what,
whether it's a piano or a guitar or a bass,
Like it has to to have a pocket on something.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
That's really difficult. So you know, that's why.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I have to kind of listen to something when I'm
playing to hang my hat, you know, and you create
a tempo or a train, but the vocal kind of
takes you around it. That's why if you listen to
some of like Superman's Dead or One Man Army or
like some of the more complicated verse songs that we
had with OLP, I'm following the vocals like crazy, like
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almost like even like is Anybody Home? Like the drums
follow the vocal like a thread throughout the song. So
I mean that to me is it's also because you
can hide a cool groove with the vocal. If it
fits with the vocal, you can't step on the vocal though.
You know, you can play on the vocal, but it
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has to support it. You can't play on it and
then have it mess with it or else you're playing
with fire. Are you're gonna get you know, the producer
is gonna say, what the hell are you're thinking?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
You know? Interesting? So I guess the only downside of
that is if your singer can't keep good.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Time well, I mean in the studio everybody's doing on
a click track or whatever anyway, Yeah, and if if
you if you have bad rhythm as a singer, yeah,
I'm going to have a problem with that for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So is limlifter, I know American high fi with sort
of a different dialect for you, is limlifter more naturally.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
You well, I mean hi fi is is Stacy's a
drummer and Brian Nolan's a great drummer. So as a drummer,
it's like I can get that vibe from from from
the you know. And also Stacey's a sneaky great guitar
player too and singer as well, So that helps when
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you're playing with someone who's kind of like a there's
a there's a drummer there the temples are really strong,
and Ryan's a very seasoned guitar player and singer too,
so it's like they both have kind of rock solid
time anyway, so you can kind of, you know, be comfortable, you.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
You know, we haven't rehearsed yet, but it feels that way,
but you know, just by knowing and listening to them,
to him play.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
The Odds is a band that I've been playing along
to with my new Fender strat.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah, you love the Odds.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I know that I do like Eat my Brains as
great rock songs.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I always thought they were the one of the best
live bands in Canada, you know, therefore.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
The world and may.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
It a little bit.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Well, you could see them on a huge stage at
a festival with thirty thousand people, or in a small
club and they will always sound incredible, you know what
I mean. Doesn't matter where you're recording them, They're all
just they play to the room.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
What did fantastically on the stage in front of thirty
thousand people.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I saw them at festivals for sure. I mean I
remember seeing them at SunFest crushing it there. That was
out in Manitoba, and I'm sure they did lots of times.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Definitely.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, those guys plow they do.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Man, they do, they do. They've had many great drummers
the Odds. Patrick Stewart, who's back in the chair with
Brian Adams now no way since the Reckless Days. Yeah,
oh yeah, that's a good comeback, right in terms of like,
how what for a long time? Yeah, he was with
(19:58):
the Odds for a long time. But like he's literally
in the video for Summer of sixty nine. Whoa, And
now he's back doing it. So it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
So did Crag and Stephen from the Odds have a
falling out?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I have no idea. I love all those guys, and
I have no idea. That's all not your farm exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
A couple of other things, just on the subject of touring,
The arkell has just finished across Arkell's right Kells. Yeah,
they just crashed another cross country tour, just packing them
in stadiums. Yeah, crazy.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I love to see it.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
And they seem to be finding new and unique ways
to just blow the roof off places.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I'd say at this point they're kind of creating their own,
their own thing, Like it's a different level that nobody's
kind of ever gone that far. Like the hip were
always a massive arena band, but they didn't have as
much show and productionists and a sense you know what
I'm talking about, like the extra stuff. It's like they
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were kind of more like Pearl Jam. They don't really ever,
they don't really have production. They just have usually lights
and and and that's about it so you can see them,
which is kind of.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Old school for sure.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
But our Kels bring kind of more almost like a
pop sensibility to their shows, you know what I mean,
Like all the all the crazy pop shows that are
out there, from Olivia Rodrigo to Demi Levado, like they
put a lot of crazy stuff together, and Urkel's definitely
(21:40):
kind of a I think they adopted some of that,
you know, even some of that that the way their
stage is kind of like it's.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
So broad and goes out into the audience.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah, it's it's it's more like almost like the pop
and even the hip hop artists too, just kind of
it's it's it's it gets you, I guess, closer to
the audience. It gives a different visual to everybody. It
just seems more like a show, I guess, you know,
you know, they have a huge band. It's just great
(22:11):
harmed players. Yeah, man, it's just such a fun thing
to see, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
So hypothetically, say you were Rkell's manager killing it in Canada,
can't get any bigger here, what would your strategy be
to grow the bass?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Well, I don't think i Astley does a pretty good job, right,
I would never to grow the bass. The only thing
that grows a bass, I guess is hit songs, right,
so like, yeah, another radio smash or American smash would
definitely take it up, and like they're ready to go,
like they could be cold play around the world at
(22:49):
a switch of a.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Light, you know what I mean. Like, it's not difficult
for them. So that's all.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
It is one of those songs that just somehow connects
with the world in a way.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
And next thing you know, you're.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Playing stadiums in South America, so that around the world rips.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Once a year you do across Canada, banger, and then
just keep chipping away making in roads in Europe and
the States.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
What size shows are they playing in America?
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Would you say they still do a few thousand, a
couple thousand, like big, you know, big places in major
markets outside of Canada for sure, and they get a
lot of great they get. The thing is, they get
a lot of great festivals as well, right, they they
get a lot of really good festivals, and that's huge
as well. So again, if you can couple a song
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at radio with an appearance next thing, you know, you're
double your audience. But yeah, and especially in Europe, that's
I mean that the fans there, if you build a
live presence, you can have a long career, a lot
longer than than America. If you have six in that regard,
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you know what I mean. Like there's I still remember
shows that we did in Germany and just the fans
would just it just kept growing and growing.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Who told you to always keep a foot in Europe?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Well, I think anybody who.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
If you want to have a long longevity in music,
if the more continence you have a following, the better.
So like if you see something happen, if you see
some radio play, you should you should go there and
just get on it as much as you can, even
if you have to sleep in a van, because it
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will grow the band way bigger if they're there because
you're on the charts.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
That's the first thing to get.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Interviews, you know, if you're in a city that they
want to talk to bands that are charting, so you
just kind of have to jump on it. And if
that's not happening, it's it's very difficult, you know. That's
why opening big shows and getting a little bit of
radio and festivals that's.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Kind of the only way to go.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Okay, that's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Then that's it.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
With my new rock combo, with my new Fender Strat.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
And all the girls. Okay, they're in it.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Have you been where you are experiencing any Taylor swiftness?
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Oh it's bananas. And I'm not even I haven't even
been in the city once since she's been here, and
she's still doing it. I think like there's six shows
and she's done like four or five or are they
still going?
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I think she's done three and then she's got a
few days off and then like does Thursday to Saturday
two weeks in a row.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Oh that's how it goes. Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I was wondering, what is the Rogers Rogers Center, What
does it cost to just hold it? Let's just hold it?
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Hundreds of thousands of dollars a day? For sure.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Wow, So like, yeah, days off for just like a
huge dollar signs coming out of the dome.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Well, like, let's assume that how many days would it
take to load in.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Don't see this, dude, the.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Trucks alone or a million dollars probably just sitting there
right like hotels, Like, it's just that's all part and
parcel of the gross versus the net.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Right.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
So that's when you're talking about a billion dollar tour,
that these are billion dollar expenses you're seeing.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
My feeling was if I was her and I was
doing three shows and I was in Roger Center, it's
such a pain to go anywhere. Yeah, I'd probably just
have the nicest bus in the world and.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Just stay there in the dome.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, where are you going?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
But that's not how she rolls. She's probably got the
top floor of the of the what is it the
setting or what are they then the Rits? Yeah, either
the Ritz or whatever, the one in York Yorkville.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
So you you finish the show at ten thirty, you're
at the Ritz by ten fifty, and then your call
the next afternoon is four pm.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I guess so, because like you know, when she goes
around town, she has the like the the cops and
the black SUVs with the lights like to get you
and stopping traffic to get you where you're going. Like
she's got literally the run of like the run of downtown, right.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I don't think there is. There is like royalty and
this is a.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Whole new level when they actually shut down the city
around your around your gig, and your gig happens to
be right downtown Toronto.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I'm sure there's people are probably getting furious now because
there's no there's no way to get around down there anyway,
and everybody's like there's a thousand million Ubers just kind
of cruising around to right, Like that's coupled with everybody.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Living down there.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
If you pretty like you're looking for an uber down
that two seconds you're getting an Uber. That's like all
the cars are Ubers, right if yeah, if there was
no Ubers downtown, behalf the cars.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Well as you know, uh, we saw her and it
was a real positive experience and personally like her music
or don't, I'm all for it something probably fun that
people are excited about and can look forward to and
get dressed up for. Don't care if it's Metallica or
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Taylor Swift or Michael Buble.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
It's great anytime it's music and people just you know,
in case anyone's ever forgot and like, oh, you know,
being in a band's hard, or being in music is
nobody does it.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
There's no money in it.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
And it's like you look at that, Well, this is
music and it's obviously never been more popular or big
than it is right now, And I mean there has
to be some kind of hope to know that it's
still the biggest driving force economically for media or public
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stuff is music, and that's that's a good thing, no
matter what.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Plus matter, there's no fandom in the world like teenage
girl fandom.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I was struck by that people screaming lyrics in a
language they didn't learn first, screaming lyrics and giels at
the top of their lungs like that they might not
even understand in some cases, but they know every single word.
That's pretty powerful.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
That's the best take a break, take it back about
So this is.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
You.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I did actually because it was free and it was
quite the spectacle, and I just wanted, like I thought
that Tyson would like take a dive in like the
fifth rounders, and honestly, that's what I thought was gonna happen,
and then uh so, but it turns out that he
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was like, you know, could have clobbered him, but didn't
clab room obviously, and it was Tyson. So it just
ended up just being boring as hell to watch because
like Tyson was just kind of standing there and Paul
was just kind of acting tough and throwing throwing bunches
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that were just like not doesn't even matter, like not
any inflicted pain whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Okay, I'm I'm extremely nice lead and gullible.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
But well, I mean there's there was one punch at
the beginning, like when the fight first started from Tyson,
and it was kind of like an old school coming
at you and then going down and then throwing a
right that lands and like literally like what knocks his
job back and he looked visibly visibly shaken, like, way,
(31:23):
what are you doing, bro? Like that's not the plans
styles like it was that's was the face like wait
a second.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Man, right, I just want to make sure and that was.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
It, Like there was no there was no more real
aggression from Tyson throughout the rest of the fight. It
was more just kind of hanging around and boring and
making you know, everyone everybody's saying, oh, he looks hurt,
he looks hurt.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
There's something wrong with him. You know. They were playing
that narrative, which was just what f salad? It is
just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Jake Jake Poe was the promoter of the fight. Yes,
he made forty million.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
And everyone there is hired by him and his people, right,
so it's like it's just the the everybody blowing sunshine
up his ass from from the back, you know, right,
or else you don't come back. Mike Tysons twenty million, Yeah,
forty for Paul and twenty for Tyson.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
So if someone saying you want to make it a
great fight, pay them both twenty and the winner gets
the extra twenty.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Well, I mean, the the bottom line is this, there's
it's fake like that. Probably from the get go, it's like, no,
this is this is like more like wrestling, you know,
where Vince McMahon saying, okay, this is what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Okay, so everyone is just expencting this is no.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
But at this point people are buying in as if
it is real, like real, So the we're I guess
like first fans of wrestling that sure wrestling is they
say it's fake, but it's very hard and they take
a lot of damage to their bodies. And this is
kind of similar in the sense where it's like they're
actually taking punches and throwing punches, but there's an ending and.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Then that's that. But it's like it makes sense.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
It's smart marketing because people still are gonna say, oh,
is it real? It's fake, and there's no way they
can prove it. It's a privately owned entertainment production, so
they don't have to say anything. They don't have anyone
to answer to, Like there's no title, so there's no
boxing commission, right, there's no it's it's just bs. So
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it's like entertainment and they got sixty million people that
watched it, and that makes sense. So if I or him,
I do the same thing, like, you know, never never
losing or maybe taking a loss.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
To make people think that it is real, you know,
once in a while.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
But he also made twenty million bucks.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yes exactly that.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Who cares, it's perfect, That's why he's joking around the
whole time. So do you think it's they approach him
and say, look, we have this idea for this thing.
It would be epic. You'll yeah, every but you need
to let me win.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Every person that's fottom that's probably starts with like, listen,
this is this isn't real obviously, Like as if you
were doing a reality show, right, like Survivor people. Survivor
people think it's real. It's all real. All those shows
are all real. They think it's like ninety Day Fiance
(34:40):
is real. If you if you watch it, do you
think it's supposed to be real?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Right?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
But you know about the TV part? How much of
it's actually real?
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Not much?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Right?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Well? I know that that aspects, depending on the format,
aspects of it are real. For example, like we're watching
Love is Blind, right now, do you know the premise,
Like let's say ten guys and ten girls. They speed
date in these pods separated by a wall, so you
don't see the person you're talking to.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
So is what is the point to find love? Or
is there contestants to win money? No, the point is
to find love.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
So so at a certain point you're like, you know what,
I talked to all of them on their maths, but
I really feel like Carol is my person and someone
very special to me. You have to propose to someone's
sight unseen, then you get to see each other face
to face. So the question is love really blind?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
So I feel like the people choose who they chose.
I think that is real. I think you can sway
if you're a producer, you can sway people in your interviews,
Like do you like Calvin?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I do?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Really? Yeah? Why? Oh, he just said he thought you
were kind of what kind of what? No, he just
said he thought you were kind of obnoxious. You know
who's obnoxious is Calvin? And they just use that SoundBite.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
I also know it's so it's the producers that are
planting the bs for sure.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah. I also know once something starts to pop, they
pull on that thread to get good moments. Right, Yeah,
so someone freaks out and then they just throw gas
on it to keep it going. But I think I
think who the people choose, I think that is real.
But I think they also Charlie Brown. It's called frank
(36:35):
and biting the interview clips so that you can hear
someone say I really like Trevor. He seems great because
they're just stealing words from different places and creating a
story in post.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
So you're saying that they cut it that much.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Definitely, no way, really, Yeah, my ear is tuned to it.
So if you hear clip, if you don't see the
person's mouth moving on, like they'll start to say, here's
the thing about Tyler, then they'll cut to some b
roll of Tyler and then they can call them together
whatever they want, and.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Like I want to fucking kill him.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yeah, then it is like, wait a second, where did
that go?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, And she might have said Mary, but they just
swap out the word kill for I would kill.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
I always do say, like the the damning stuff when
there's like just b roll or just audio.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Love it, Frank and biting.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Frank in biting, I love it.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
And that's an editor's trick as old as time. So
a lot of those stories are born in post production.
I think in the case of Survivor, for example, or
any show where they have to give away a ton
of money as a prize, I think the law like
you can't meddle with the gameplay. The winner has to
be the winner and have to get whatever bonuses or
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spoils come with winning that challenge. Where they can mess
around is in the interviews, getting them to trash other
players in the game and creating tension where it might
not exist, because the real problem is most of these
shows they sit around for nineteen hours a day and
nothing really happens.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
And then but then there's like the bear grills or
he's like, I'm on the side of the mountain, but
there's like catering van like right behind the camera.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Well, how about the amazing race where the camera guy
or gal is doing what the teams are doing, but
backwards and faster to be in front of them. Right,
How insane are is their conditioning with a camera on their.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Shoulders running backwards?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Or the Olympic hockey camera person in the white next
thing who has to do four games a day at speed.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know about that. That's like
a whole new level. You're right.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
But I think what it comes down to is I
think I would be I would be shocked to know
what is fake and what I take as gospel. Like, yeah,
like the Trump presidency, Like what was that assassination attempt?
Was that really stage? Yeah? Yeah, I know some people
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say unequivocally, like no question he when he went down,
he stayed down. Like, have you watched the security footage
of Reagan get shot and how hard they tackled him
to the ground and put him in the back.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Of I know, I know, and there's no getting up.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
His injuries were from the Secret Service tackling him, not
from the gun shot. So not to believe that they
let him say, give me a second, i want to
put my shoes on, and I'm going to stick my
head out and yell fight a bunch of times like
I'm not even and like I say, I'm naive and gullible.
But even that was a little fishy.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Well, I mean, and there's no real investigation into the
two people that died, the guy who shot and the
guy who got shot. You just hear the guy who
got shot, but there's no, like, you haven't heard any
kind of.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Investigation as to what happened for real.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
And the number of people that were like, yeah, we
saw a guy crawling up on the thing and we
told police and they're like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah, it's all too foggy to believe anyway.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
But also it's foggy to believe that every person in
law enforcement was informed at the start of that work day,
just so you know this thing's going to happen and
ignore it. That's not plausible either.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
That's the least of the worries of what's going on
down there right now.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Though.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
The fact that he's back and.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Back in black, crazy and with more power than ever.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Oh man, that's some scary stuff. Man, I don't even
want to think about it.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Were you surprised?
Speaker 3 (41:09):
I was, actually I was very surprised. Yeah. The biggest
surprise is the twenty million less votes than last time
for Harris compared to Biden. Like, that's when people said
they showed up. I don't think that shows that. I
know they're talking about possibly losing votes or whatever, but whatever,
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bottom line is, there should have been more support for Harris, obviously,
and you get what you get.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
And this is what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
People are going to understand the tariffs equal more inflation
and more expenses, and this mass deportation thing is real
and he's using the military to carry it through.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
And that's some scary stuff, man, Like, that's.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Something that Americans haven't seen decades, and that's something that's
a reality check for people, Like it's I can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
I really can't.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Once again, the communities that the people.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
That he's putting in power in his cabinet are I
think the worst of the worst.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Like it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
The people that you might have expected would have showed
up for her didn't. And that's the like Biden did
better with young blackmail voters.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Yeah, I don't know what the hell's going on, But.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Jeremy, on the subject of what is going on, I
saw that you left Twitter.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
I did, yes, tell me about that well, because I
started just seeing these posts all of a sudden, and
not just necessarily in the for you, but just not
just that. You would see a post and then you
look at the replies and it's like, I think it was, uh,
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it was something to do with like a proud boys,
like white supremacist. One of them had is literally a
swastika on his T shirt and they were talking to
a protester and trying to reason with a protester about
what they think. And then I looked at the comments
and all the comments were just like yeah, brother.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
That's how you do it.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
And it was like everybody was like right, psychopath like
horrifying and almost to the point where it's like, that's
all the replies were. There was nobody sympathizing with the
other side at whatsoever. And that's when I'm like, Okay,
this place is just really it's actually getting out of hand,
(43:44):
and I think it's maybe not safe to be on here,
because if it's a lot of these types of people
are on here, and that's who I'm talking to, I
don't want these people in my life whatsoever, you know,
and who knows where this is going to go from here.
The fact that it's so toxic and it's allowed to
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be that way, I just think it's a negative, too
negative reflection of society to be kind of inundated with,
and I just choose not to take part of it
at all anymore.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
So my thing is, I'm I'm going to make the
same decision you did. My thing is I am still
mourning what it was because I love ye. Yes. Of
the platforms, that was the one I loved because it
was like a one liner joke machine testing ground. It
was if the oscars are on or the gray cup
(44:41):
is on, where everyone kind of gathers, and it was
a temp check how do people feel about this? I
just have to accept that it's not what it was.
But it's just also the platform that I went all
in on, and I still find myself when stuff happens
in the world thinking, oh, I wonder what the buzz
is on Twitter about it. But obviously the things that
(45:03):
I post the people that follow me don't see. I
see things of people that I am not following, Like
it doesn't work anymore. But it's also just the shortest
shorthand easiest reach I know to say I'm doing the
same Wednesday at ten or hey, if you get a chance,
watch this, But yeah, I just need to pull the plug.
(45:24):
Part of the problem for me is I haven't embraced Instagram.
It hasn't landed for me the way that Twitter once did,
so I haven't really figured out a role for Instagram
in my life. I think I might overthink it or
should just be less selective about what I choose to show.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Well, I mean you should, definitely, you should definitely try.
Blue Sky is what people a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Seem to have been going to.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
And.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Threads.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Although it's Zuckerberg, it's I'm sure they know what the problem.
Baganda isn't great on Facebook or Instagram either, but Threads
is a little bit more like Twitter, because it's at
least people that I've noticed that, if anything, there's just
only what people post and kind of normal replies, so
(46:18):
it's not as much activity, but there's not as much negativity.
But I haven't gone on Blue Sky yet, but I've
heard that a lot of people are on there, So
I don't know, if you know, either those are probably
a better place to be the similar a similar feedback
of or at least letting people know what's going on,
you know. I find that Instagram is enough for me
(46:39):
to convey whatever I need to convey.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
H Twitter, I do.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Yeah, I loved it too for that same thing, like
instant feedback and just kind of enjoying.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
The back and forth.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
But it just, yeah, it got too so toxic that
I felt like this is not this isn't a good
spot to be.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yeah, Like, for example, for the last three or four years,
on Twitter, every day or once a year around the holidays,
I invite people to share a picture or a memory
of somebody that's no longer with us, and it kind
of becomes this beautiful quilt of grief and loss and
(47:22):
kind of healing, kind of therapeutic, and I think people
look forward to it in a strange way. I do too,
and it feels really nice, Like I don't feel like
Instagram is the place to do that.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah, not really.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
That's the thing, Like you can make people do a
lot of replying in comments. There's definitely a feeling of
what your people that follow you in the comments. That's
a thing, but you won't see their pick story is
in the same regard without the pictures of when you
(47:58):
can do that with Twitter. But that's why people maybe
threads is better because you can do the exact same
thing to people that are following you the same on Twitter,
it's basically copied because I'm sure Zuckerberg's like, man, this
guy's doing pretty poorly. I'm gonna make the sane copy
of Twitter, and you know, see if at least there'll
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be something similar and a lot of people have been
on there and enjoying it. It's definitely a smaller percentage
of the people, but like it's still kind of the
same as it was.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Are your kids on the snapchat or anything?
Speaker 3 (48:37):
They're all like, my anales is on Twitter, John's on Twitter. Jack,
I don't even think he does. Jack's on Instagram a
little bit, but just to look at stuff, not to
post things. That's kind of what they're mostly like. They're
all anonymous, and they either post in an anonymous forum sense,
(49:05):
or they don't post at all, or they private.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
You know, if Anna's going to talk to friends, is
that a snapchat thing?
Speaker 3 (49:14):
I think she has friends on Twitter or discord. There's
another one. The kids kind of do not snapchat. I
don't think any of them do snapchat or TikTok. None
of them do TikTok.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
TikTok.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
Yeah, there's so many. My guy, I don't do the
tiktoks people. I don't even like. Someone sends me a TikTok,
I can't even look at it because I don't want
to go to the TikTok.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
You're not going to get on there with your drum
tutorials and what have you.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
I don't think. I don't.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
I don't think it's necessary to me. I don't know
if something, Yeah, I don't. I don't understand it, to
be honest. That's why you know everything's shorter on there.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
I guess, right, I guess.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
So I'm also not actively selling anything or actively promoting anything. Yeah, well,
I'm easy to find, so usually if someone's looking for me.
I'm there.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Just just sail nail me, man, it's probably snail nail me.
I kind of liked that, like coming up on TV
when before the Internet, people would send letters and it
might be like ten days by the time you get
the letter about a thing you did last week, so
you couldn't get shook or try to incorporate feedback in
(50:42):
real time. Yeah, right, Yes, You're going to make the
best decision you could with the information you had available
to you and put out the thing that you meant
instead of trying to anticipate what people might get rouffled.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
Yeah, and by the time they got it or over it,
so like if they're mad, then then you're like, ah,
so sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
I did a panel on a CBC radio thing about
Pierre Polyev wanting to dismantle CBC within the first hundred
days of getting elected, and they had done a panel
with three people that were in favor of that, and
then I was on the panel of people that were
defending it. That's a tough slog, man.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
How was that that must So it was like literally
three on three Live.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
They did they did them separately.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Okay, so you just had to give your piece.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
I was part of the echo chamber. Yeah, being pro CBC.
But it is a tough go because the challenge of
the public broadcaster is to be all things to all people,
and so it can't be compared. Its success can't be
compared with the same metrics that you would use for CTV,
(51:53):
which is a private broadcaster in a business. But if
you're saying CBC is all things to all people in
everyone's voice should be heard, that includes uh, people with
views that don't align with yours.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
See, that's where I got it. That's where I can't
deal with its people. You know, you can see you
can so lefty.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
We don't get any airtime there.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
I know. But when it's like, well, you know, we
kind of.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
Want to be a little bit more anti immigration, or
we want to be like, uh, you know, be against
women's rights or whatever things that are that seem to
be always in the rhetoric of conservatives at the moment
where it's gotten a so out of hand that this
(52:40):
all toxic lies, you know, to just to to have
that on the air and acceptable.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
It's just we've seen what that what that does in America.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
Yeah, I mean that's Fox News when you have these
people on and they keep talking and talking. All of
a sudden, people don't know what the hell's up, what down?
And next thing you know, women's rights are going out
the window, and the courts are full with creeps, I know,
and they're going to change all the laws to ruin
people's lives.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Man.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
That's the challenge, though, that's the challenge with this conversation.
If you're saying that it's everybody's, then everybody includes people
whose beliefs are not ones that you agree with.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
Well that's that's where it gets insane. So yeah, you
want to get nuts, and that's what's going to happen
that they won't be any public broadcasting.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
I know. It's also crazy to like, I feel like,
especially if you're making a comedy, you want to be
on the offense. You don't want to be on the defense.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:45):
This is another one of those things where you know,
who gets it in the end, is anyone.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
Who's creative loses.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:52):
So there's just more more of the same stuff. Okay,
it's just more out of work journalists more out of work, right,
and actors Okay, now what okay.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
So what are we doing for public?
Speaker 2 (54:05):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (54:05):
No, let's just give Netflix another twenty million dollars so
they can give me a hand job in the back
of the paramount.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
Well, Netflix has actually figured it out because they don't
report any audience metrics to the creators of the shows,
so you can't go back to them and say, I
have the number two show on Netflix. Give me more money,
because they'll never tell you how it's doing. There's public buzz,
but that that's not ratings per se. And the other
thing is the people that own the show make money.
(54:33):
But like, I'm not getting Trailer Park Boys royalties from Netflix.
People assume we are, like, oh man, you guys must
be rolling in it. No, mister d being on Netflix
doesn't do anything for me.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
It's it's I don't know. It's like the.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
Fact that things have gotten to the point where this
is what people want, then this is what then gets
you know, that's what's going to happen, Like healthcare is
already at the point where it's being choked to look
like private is the only alternative. Like that's definitely happening.
(55:18):
It's going to happen more in our schools to make
it more and more seeming like oh, we just they're
not learning. They need another option. Well, we'll have to
have private. Private's the new way. Look at how amazing
this is, and that's it. It'll be the end of
all that stuff with that guy. That'll be it. Yeah,
that'll be it. It's like, okay, you got it. You're
(55:39):
going to see but everything that you thought you had
is going to be gone and it's just all going
to be privatized. And the people that have lots of
dough are going to get even more and the people
that have less are getting even less. That's just how
it's going to turn out. It's there's people people are
just blindly walking into a pit.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
I think Paulief probably wants an election to be called
sooner rather than later because he's going to step in it.
It's just a matter of time. So he's trying to
get the election to happen before.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
We because Trudeau, and Trudeau is like too stubborn to
realize that he can't like he like he must know,
but he mustn't think that he can actually win, like
there's there's no chance, Like that's the And that was
probably what hurt Harris was the fact that she had that,
(56:39):
you know, whatever amount of time taken away by Biden
not stepping down. Yeah, that's what needs to happen right now.
If the Liberals want any chance is they got to
get rid of Trudeau right away. And honestly, anybody else
would be better at this point if they want to
having another election, I don't know, but and and if
(57:01):
they had somebody with any respectability or can sympathize with
the people whatsoever, then they would have a really good chance.
You know, because the way that things are looking, there's
seemingly very little respect for drug meat singing. I don't
(57:23):
know why, but it seems like it's always like he's
always taken heat for something when it's like what, like
I what control do the NDP have Yet he's always
getting blamed for something just because he was aligned with
the Liberals for a minutees like, man, it makes sense
that they tried to do that because at least there
(57:43):
was a they're looking for the future of the party.
So it's just frustrating in that regard. So Trudeau's gotta
definitely understand that they can't win with them.
Speaker 1 (57:55):
Somebody needs to get that through their noggins.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
Look at us, we became political podcast.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
You know, that's how we do it here on t IF,
I was.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
Like, it's a job that on the best of days,
when you take off his fifty percent of people think
you're an idiot.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
Absolutely, that's it, just the math for sure.
Speaker 2 (58:16):
If I was him after this many terms, I'd be like,
you know what, I'm good. I'm gonna play the gat Nos.
Speaker 1 (58:27):
We're gonna play some.
Speaker 2 (58:28):
Sinc on at Quebec and dear some shouting on my
way to the tim or than but really you'll never
see me again.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
Exactly, just chilling at the lock.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
Not such a bad existence.
Speaker 1 (58:42):
Really, no, take it, take a break, but.
Speaker 2 (58:49):
Yeah, take a break, but you earned it. Also, like
he can go on Tinder and like, uh, that's that's right,
you can wheel everybody like he's a single guy. His
kids are almost out the door justin two point oh yeah,
like his little bios like Prime Minister of Canada l O. L. Tenas.
(59:15):
He'll be a popular girl in no time.
Speaker 1 (59:18):
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
A special guest in the house tonight is say hello
to the Prime Ministers of Canada.
Speaker 1 (59:29):
All right bye, good chatting, good chatting. Bob
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