April 25, 2025 • 56 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Something went on here, something on there. It's time on
T and T.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Jair has a milestone birthday.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
We talked about that moment that you could take back
and what.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Role does feedback play in our lives. That's all coming
up right now on tn TY. But so, uh you
got a new toilet Tacoma.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
E oh yeah, I just uh picked it up two
weeks ago. I think how.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Well?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I mean, to be honest, I don't really like it.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I don't think I like it really the what's wrong
with it?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Well, I mean, I'm supposed to be fancy, it's supposed
to supposed to drive a fancy feel fancy. I'm in
it driving it, yeah, you know, just just doesn't feel
as comfortable as i'd like. You know, there's something something
about it. I don't know it's I mean, it's drives okay,
feels okay, everything that buttons worked. Oh yeah, but uh,
(01:12):
I just don't think I like it? You know.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Okay, where'd you take it? What kind of places?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Well? I went into town with it, drove it around.
I went on to some outer roads, like some lines.
I took it down a couple of concessions, some dirt roads,
just to feel it out. You know, pick up trucks
supposed to be able to ride in the place like that.
So I'm you know, I'm on the off roading and it,
you know, seems fine, but you know, it just was. Uh,
(01:39):
I don't know, I don't think I like it, though, you.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Know, I was fine, like our the cup holders and
uh and then and that sort of.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, cup holders are fine. I mean the one noticed
the coffee mug, like I couldn't put a coffee mug
because of the rehold it that didn't go in there.
So that's the thing. The light when it makes the
left turns a little loud. I went into town with
it to go to the Wendy's and uh, you know,
(02:13):
it fit in around the corner, but when it turned left,
I felt like it might be a bit big. Yeah,
when I went in around the window there, so that
was kind of annoying. But I did get it. I
got one of those new Cajun crunch sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
How do you like that?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I loved it. I mean, a pepper jack cheese and
a spicy mustards just got a nice kick to it.
You know, I really liked it. But anyway, so I
you know, drove home great sandwich. But you know, I
got home and I tried to do a little rough
like you know, not off roading, but you know how
I have some like space around my driveway to do.
(02:55):
I just did a couple like not real donuts, but
like fish tail kind of Oh yeah, and it was
it wasn't like it wasn't like, it wasn't cool like Banicheck.
You know, didn't have like a Banicheck thing. So okay,
I don't know, man, I just don't really like this Tacoma.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Okay, Well, good to see you.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, no problem on all right, get my citizen at
them all.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Hey there's Tony.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
How are you? Oh, how are you good? How are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
You know, they're telling me that new uh toyleta Tacoma's
not much good, that's what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Oh really, I heard they're fantastic.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Oh I heard you really try to go down a
concession road and you can't even put your coffee in
the holders that I heard.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Come on, I was thinking about get one of those.
Friend of mine told me they're fantastic.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
We'll tell you what you buy me one of them
new Cajun crunch sandwiches that I hear Wendy's they're pretty good.
Hold on those by me for helping you dodge a
bullet on that tacoma.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So you're saying the truck's no good, But the Sandwiches fans.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That's what they're telling me.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
All right, Well, damn.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I was gonna go try test driving one of those
tacomas tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
What are you driving right now?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Oh? You know? I got an F one fifteen?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
And how do you like em?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Not crazier, buddy.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
You know, it's just been there about it for a
long time, and it's the stuff is starting to go
out on it.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
What yours things?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
It's about five years old. It's just has time for
something new.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I just wondered maybe see if something else.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
But I heard those tacomas are good. But geez, now
I'm starting to think different.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
What color is your F one fifty?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Is about brown?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Brown? Eh?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, like coffee coffee nut brown.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Have you tried the Chinese food here at tomorrow? Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, I don't go in there. It's got some stuff there.
Last week wasn't very good.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I'll tell you what. Okayp don't do it?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, good to see you, Tony. I'll walk on. I guess, yeah,
try to have our stuffs in here at the mall theres, Gerald,
is it?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
What's going on? Gerald? Oh?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah? You doing what.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
You're getting with them all? Are you?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, I got my steps saying it's hard, you know,
just trying to doctor says you gotta walk, but I
feel like walking, but it's hard to hear you a bit.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Well, I guess from what they're telling me, you might
rather walk in them all than get that Chinese food
over there. They're telling me that's not much good.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You kidding. I was just about the houle some of
that r.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
It's pretty good. No, they're telling me it's not great,
not good. I mean it's not exactly a five year
old brown f one fifty because they're telling me that's
even worse.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
But uh oh really, I don't like sitting, but I
love driving in my pickup truck.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Goes thinking of getting one of those coleman.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh, they're telling me they're not much good.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
They're no good.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Ah, that's what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
They're like a big star.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Well, they're saying, like the coffee mug holders aren't very
good on them. And they're telling me that the uh
you try to drive down a concept, and they're telling
me that's you know, he turned the left is a
bit of a problem with them, that's what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Well, I'm more over like a kind of a booster
juice there. Anyway, when I'm in my truck, I don't
really like coffee mug.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well you know what that doesn't. But the only good
thing about them is you can eat one of those
Cajun crunched chicken sandwiches from Wendy's h Prave with comfortable
like elbow room and whatnot. But anything else, they're telling
me they're no good.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I had one of those sandwiches. I didn't like it.
I tell you how. The pepper jack No, I was terrible. Anyway,
I gotta go. I gotta call my grandmother.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Okay, Jerald, good to see you. Oh look who it is.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Hey, how are you?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I'm good? How are you? Jared?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I just I just I just talked to you a
little while ago.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Well, I'm hearing mixed reviews about that crunchy chicken sandwich
at Wendy's.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
What's that.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, they're telling me it's good, and they're telling me
it's bad. They're telling me, but.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Both well, I really enjoyed it that truck though.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, but they're telling me it's bad. And they're telling
me that the Tacoma isn't as bad as people are saying.
So I don't know what to think of all that
tell them.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
They're they don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I have one people were thinking again them and then
I was telling them that I heard they weren't great.
But then they were telling me they still wanted to
test drive of them. And then I was telling them
about the chicken sandwich and some of them been with that.
Either they're telling me that's not great.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Well whatever, I'm gonna just go back. I gotta go
back to work making the Chinese food at my restaurant.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Here they're telling me that a five year old brown
f one fifties every bit as good as that new Tacoma.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Oh well, they got to figure it out on their own.
But I just said, you know, I've been working all
day on this new recipe for my Chinese food restaurant
here at them all.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well, don't shoot the messenger. I'm just telling you what
they're telling me. And I heard that food is uh,
they're saying it's not great.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
What what are you're saying about who's saying.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Don't shoot the messenger. That's what they're telling me.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
That's food over there, his garbage. Hey, what the hell's
going on around you? This chaos at chaos at them all.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That's walk and labs at them all. This is my
father in law does this all the time. One person
will share the anecdotal evidence, and I'll hear him quote
it to someone else's Yeah, they're telling me apparently they're
saying it's not much good like well, one guy said,
I don't know how I feel about it, which has
now become a focused.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Test for the New Tacoma Yep.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, they don't get very good service in there.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I mean, that's kind of how things are these days, period, right,
true story, Right, it's just like running with stuff as gospel.
It's sunny out and someone said, I don't know it's
gonna rain in the middle minute here, do you know.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I would like to start by saying, well, no, actually,
I would like to start by saying happy birthday, Jeremy.
Oh yeah, thank you, fifty club.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
It's into the fifties here, we are fifty. How is fifty? Uh?
It feels like h it feels like fifty fifty years
old is what it feels like.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It's I don't know, something you have ever given much
thought to.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Not really, but the the uh when when you hear
your age more, it starts to I don't know, it's
like talking about something that you shouldn't be talking about, right,
like in your just I don't know. It just feels
weird too, because in a sense, when you when you
speak of something, you kind of like, I'm a big
(09:49):
believer in like pursuing your dreams, right, and those dreams
start with something you think and manifest in ways, right
because I you know, picking music is not the smartest thing,
so you have to kind of be believe in some
regard that it's the right idea through instinct. So I
(10:14):
think when you're talking about stuff, it kind of can
it happens, It can happen, So I don't I don't know. Well,
maybe when people talk about age or being older, or
the fact that it is a state of mind, because
everybody does feel the same no matter what age they are,
whether their kids are adults. So I do believe in
(10:36):
the power of positive thinking, and age really is just
a measurement. So and if you start thinking about longevity
and what happens when you get older. Don't it's not
good to dwell on the inevitable.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, my wife has a theory that whether you are
old or younger, whether you've gained a few pounds or
lost a few pounds, whether you got something for a
steal or paid a lot of money for it, no
one really cares. Those are three areas that you sort
of like should probably stay away from. I sometimes ask
(11:20):
people like what that set you back, as a joke,
as if I care how much their belt cost. Yeah,
but it's true, Like how old are you, Jeremy, I'm fifty. Oh,
you look great for your age, Like what that doesn't
help or really mean anything?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I know.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I do think one thing can be said unequivocally, which
is at fifty two, I don't perceive myself how I
always imagined a fifty two year old would be like
when we were little kids.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Absolutely. Yeah, that's the thing when your kids, that's when
you really judge age, because you don't understand a lot.
And there's a huge difference from being a kid to
an adult that's doing their own thing. Right. So yeah,
for sure, there's a there's a thing, but it's uh.
Once you become that really the references need to kind
(12:21):
of chill out because there's and I feel like the
older you get, it gets to become like you start,
that's all you talk about. You talk about the weather,
your health, and then age, how old everybody's getting?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, And then I think the next chapter is you
heard Stan died? Huh? Like when you're when you're that
age and you see, yes, some of your peers are
slipping away like that, that can't be much fun either.
Although it's no you know, but it's a scenario that
you're here to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I suppose exactly. And when you're when you're that age,
that's how it is.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
It's like I can't even believe, Like when someone asks
me how old I am, I have to stop and
think about it for a second because it's the number
is inconceivable, but it's not something that I give much
thought or weight to.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
One thing I do like about my age is that
it's kind of it's fitting with by being born in
seventy five and then twenty five and two thousand, Wow,
nice and real concise. Like I can just look at
like sn L and I'm like I or the CN
Tower and I'm like, I know how old I am.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Wow, that's clean. That's so clean.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I like the cleanness of the fives. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
So did you have a big to do? Was there
a big bash?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
We just had a nice family a little get together here.
We had a Lisa made a fantastic cake and the
kids all wrote amazing thing like that's That's one thing
that's I really love about these birthdays and moments is
(14:02):
sharing feelings with each other. And I got to say,
I'm proud of how my kids have the ability to
kind of really intricately explain their feelings in beautiful ways.
So it's really hard to get through cards without crying
all the time. But it's one of the best moments
there is, just because you you hear these wonderful things
(14:26):
from people that you really love more than anything in
the world.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
So would you say you're getting softer, It's.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
It's not soft, it's it's more awareness, you know, just
understanding what the words mean and the sentiment behind it,
and when you see their faces when you we read
them aloud. So it's just hard to get through, but
it's important to kind of maintain explanation of your feelings
(15:01):
to people. That you love, right because otherwise, like man, like,
if you don't focus on that, then especially nowadays, you're
kind of fucked. You know.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Do you know what? I like hearing And I don't
care how old you are. It feels great to hear
when someone says I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, I know. Yeah, that's the best, right anyone you
respect and love to hear that any kind of like, yeah, man,
you know what, I think you're great and I think
what you do is fantastic and keep doing it and
it's real and it's from someone that you can regard
(15:46):
in that light. It's great. Yes, I love it. So
it was a great night at night.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Sold a couple of bikes, trying to street sense my
daughter into gooes like financial literacy. So it's like, you
know what, grown a couple of bikes. I have a
bike I don't like. Let's fire them on Facebook, marketplace
and get them sold. So that's what we did on
Saturday morning.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
This is one of my favorite, uh Jonathan Torren's is
buying shit online and hearing how the people come around
like there's got to be something here, right, we're talking.
This is another It's it's icy because if someoney hears
this and as the person that did it right, like
(16:34):
the guy that was driving around in your car forever
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, that's such a greasy move. Take the car to
a mechanic and then come back with a long list
of things that makes me feel like I was trying
to get away with something like.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
What the hell?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Okay, so you meet new bushings. What Yeah, it's not
safe to drive without bushings.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Well that's also why the car was thirty eight point fifty.
But I was going to say I had two extremely
so we sold three bikes. Two were so clean it
was like being born in nineteen seventy five and turning
fifty and twenty twenty five, Like just clean and easy.
(17:20):
Where should we meet? This is the price? Here you
go as a bonus. One of them was a bud.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Nice no way.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, like love podcast but which is always such a
great reminder when you bump into people that people like
it and listen and even if we don't get them
out as much as we should. Also shouts to Jessica
at Cole's or whatever it's called. Introna might be Indigo
(17:52):
because she's brought in a bunch of our books and
they're selling Yes, fantastic on this wave of Canadianity. And
I was reminded how our book came out in the
Fall of Canada one point fifty, when people were like
enough with Canada already anyway, Yes nicely this moment, it's
having a little bump, even if it's at that one
(18:12):
store in Truro, We'll take it. Yeah, And the third
experience was not bad by any means. We just sort
of missed each other a couple of times. He did
whack me down on the price a tiny bit and
I had to go back to his place because I
did deliver the bikes. But all in all, what a
(18:33):
great financial lesson because I thought, in this moment, I'm
Jonathan Torren's dad of a kid who's outgrown her bike.
I don't have to be buddy from street sense. I'm
just a guy selling a thing that has some value.
And my father in law would say, the second you
want to sell something, put a fair price on it
and get it out the door, because you can exhaust
(18:57):
the extra hundred bucks you might get in corresponding with
four or five people trying to get your best price.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, there's no point in putting on a suit and going, hey,
let's get the deal covering.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
But as you selling a Byron and then all of
a sudden, wait, enough dough to buy a new bike.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Nice? Yeah, three old bikes out, one fresh bike.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Exactly taking up space in the garage. So all of
a sudden, I'm like, what else do we have that
I could sell?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah? I see, I'm I got a big problem with
that right now. There's too much stuff here that we
can sell, Like we need to do like a a
y I don't know, maybe like even like an auction
or something. Holy cow, yeah, Like it's so much stuff
that's like, yeah, that thing's really cool, but we don't
use that. So but it's so much that like a
(19:48):
yard sale isn't really a good idea because like first
and foremost, it's super pain in the ass getting all
your stuff out. It looks kind of ridiculous. Some people
love them. I'm not a fan because like then you're
like dealing with people and there's nothing nothing more low
ball than a front lawn offer. And it's happens to
(20:12):
be the guy that lives three doors over right, you're
opening yourself up to all kinds of new problems like
this thing's eighteen hundred bucks. You're not offering me thirty dollars.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Two dollars?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, right, yeah, super annoying, hassy guy that's got like
my bock and his driveway.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Hel baump six dollars.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, it's like that bad thing. That's awesome. Then it's
Lisa loves it, newses it all the time and like
that row thing. Right, what is imagine that's sitting on
the in the driveway and that it's like, dude, this
(21:01):
is they have one of these at Facebook where you
are with the you know, like where the people like
chill out. How about twelve doulas?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
How about twelve dollars?
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I hate that neighbor so much already I want I
hate them so much that I want them to be
real so I can mess with them.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
The problem with selling things is that you place an
emotional surtax value on these ideas. Someone doesn't know that
your aunt Jade gave you that coffee table, and it's
really meaningful reasonable to expect someone to pay a premium
(21:45):
because it holds emotional value for you.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
But that's the problem. Like all this stuff, it's not
like junk. There's no like stuff he can sell for
five bucks. It's like it's all stuff like that. You
can like, oh this this freaking you know those kitchen
aid things and don't make dough and spin around whatever,
and they're like five hundred bucks or whatever, like something
(22:10):
like eighteen dollars.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
The Australian Haggler is the best character in TV history.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I want to see him and I want to see
him get hurt in the end. Then some manner.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I've put three trailers from our business through Richie Brothers Auctions. Okay,
they have no reserve, they have no minimum bids, so
you can't say if I don't get eight thousand dollars,
it goes for what it goes for. And that's only
upside is if it sells for less than fifteen hundred dollars,
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then you don't have to pay them a commission. But
while I'm here, let me just say Richie Brothers Auctions,
from the folks that work in the to the folks
that work in the office, to the people you talk
to on the phone, what a world class outfit. So
nice I sold In the last sale, I sold four
duley and a three room trailer. This time I sold
(23:13):
two two room trailers and a five room trailer it has,
Oh and the fifth wheel years ago that remember was it?
Mac came to look at and he's like, is it pristine.
I was like, yeah, it's pristine, and he's like this
wall is rotting. Oh yeah, remember.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Mac? Yes? Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
So the nice thing about a Richie Brothers auction is
that you tend to get about what it's worth.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I have noticed that, like with Lisa. Look, you know,
she's always looking at auctions and she notices that everything
is going for almost what it's worth. And like she
was looking at one couple days ago at this like
really cool. You know those backpacks that are also lugged. Yeah, right,
that Samsonite one.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I don't down to the size of a baggie.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Well not really. It's just a nice, solid, great for
like if you're touring or whatever, you don't have to
carry everything. But I don't know, I don't know they're
three hundred bucks or two hundred bucks, whatever they are.
This thing was already at that price, just in the auction,
and like a Canada Goose jacket was like that's probably
fourteen hundred bucks, was at already at eight hundred dollars.
(24:30):
Like it's crazy. Everything is selling for what it is worth.
So everybody is either found out that auctions are another
way to buy retail stuff. But it's a new outlet
for a new way of people getting things, but the
deals aren't there anymore really.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
So again with my father in law, what he would
say about Richie Brothers is they sell it for retail
and you get the wholesale value once they've taken their cut.
But yeah, it's one stop shopping. It's access to a
huge audience of people. Like these are pretty specialized vehicles.
They're film actor dressing room trailers. Like you could use
(25:15):
it as a hunting camp or if you had a
construction site for a place for guys to rest or eat,
launch or shower whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Like.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
They are pretty handy, but they don't have It's not
like a camper that anyone could use. So in every
case with Richie Brothers, I've gotten like maybe one thing
went for less, one thing went for more, But all
things considered, I got about what I think is fair
for them, And really, you can't you can't do better
(25:43):
than that.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
No, you can't do better than Richie's.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
You can't do better than Richie Brothers' auctions. Also, they
have like so many trucks and so many booms and
so many excavators. And then they have the like non
operational section, and then they have the like you know,
like a barn in a box, like a big door building. Yeah,
(26:10):
and then they have shipping containers with like doors and
windows on them, like a mobile.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Office is there, Like you drive up to it and
it's like bass pro shop warehouse kind of.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
They have a big yard and they also have like
imagine golf carts but that were sort of decked out
like a Rolls Royce or it's an English taxi. Yeah,
they're wicked. I'm gonna send you a picture.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
All of a sudden, it's like, can I get a
mustache and a taxi and a dually?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Well that's the danger is you can get sucked into
the magic and buy stuff that you don't need.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
You know what, I think I'm gonna take that horse
carousel that came from Woodbine Center.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah. The last thing I bought at auction was from
the estate of Gordon Pinsent.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Oh what'd you get?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I got a horse statue. I loved him, of course,
and admired his career and thought a lot of how
he carried himself in public. He was warm and friendly
and kind of understood who he was in the world
for sure, So when people would stop him, he always
(27:29):
made time for them. And so do you think, do
you think this was like a statue like in his
den or something. I don't know. I worked with his niece.
His niece is a wonderful woman who you met when
we did Strombo's house. Her name is Sarah Pinson. She's terrific.
She works at CBC, Like just really cool, awesome person.
(27:50):
And I shared a picture of this statue with her
and she was like, huh, don't remember seeing that at
Uncle Gordon's. So it might have been in storage or something.
But I like the idea of having something around to
remind me of his the way he moved through the world.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Absolutely, I'm a big fan of that stuff. But it's
a piece of touch in history.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah, felt a little weird going through, you know, an
auction of his personal effects.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Well, it's kind of like it's at that point. It's
like a kind of you know, memorabilia auction at a sense,
because you're just everybody's trying to get, like what you said,
have something in their house that can remind them of it, and.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Some of it is like he's a lovely painting, but
some of it was like salad tongs, and that's when
it starts to feel a bit weird. I sent you
the other day plastic rain hat for rainy Days, Clayton Park.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I saw where that was classic.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
It's just outside of Halifax. But the write up for it, the.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
See through rain hat like one of those basically like
a mall, but it's see through plastics.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Imagine a woman of a certain age taking a picture
of herself wearing it, but also explaining that the you
can see the back of it in the mirror behind her,
like it's a good shot.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
It's fantast dollars to coverage.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, but she said, just to be clear this it's
not this actual one that I have on my head.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I'm keeping that because this one isn't going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
So I run into this sometimes when you're creating an
ad for a bike and the headline is kid's bike,
and then it's like, what's the right up, Like, I
don't know, there's there's pictures of it. It's a bike,
Like what do you people want?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
She's like, and again, not the one in the photo
because that's mine and I'm keeping it.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
So this is her right up for the rain bonnet
keep your hair dry on those rainy days. That checks
out much better than a jacket hood that's subjective ties
in front. As you can see from the back end picture,
it will cover your head very well. New in unopened package.
The one I'm showing in the picture is my personal one.
(30:10):
The other one has uppercase, never been opened. Pick up
in Clayton Park across from the Lacewood bus terminal.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
As it's is it still up?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I don't know. It reminds me of the Nate Bargatzi
joke where he's like, my wife sells stuff on Facebook
marketplace for five bucks and invites people to our home.
The best case scenarios we get five bucks. The worst
case scenario is we get murdered. Like, is it worth
five dollars?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I thought it was like looking for the conversations you
want to see? You want a cup of coffee?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah? Maybe right? I should hail bit two dollars on
the wrong body and see if I can get it.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I can't take that guy, but then.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
You'd have to spend an hour and a half with
Nan you know who do that, Gordon Pinsent would he
sure would break. But well, I had the extraordinary pleasure
of attending the CEC High School production of Mama Mia.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
My daughter's sugar Daisy was in the ensemble. She had
a little dance solo. She uh was one of the dancers.
I'm gonna tell you what. Jeremy world class uh singing. Yeah,
and the band was tighter than two coats of paint.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Come on, I love that.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
I also want The drummer was in grade ten and
this kid flows like. There were a couple of a
couple of ringers in the in the band like some uh,
some adults and a teacher. The band leader was also
(31:53):
a teacher like like career kind of musicians. But the
coolest thing was seeing there were sisters who did percussion
and watching them like, I'm just going to stroll over
to the timpany just in time to hit this role
and then walk back to get the witch of witcha
like they probably played ten instruments between the two of them.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I love nice and well that's that's what Analyz is
doing in her arts. Percussion. Percussion, Yeah, awesome. The thing
it is fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
The thing about a musical like Mama Mia. Like, on
the upside, everyone knows those songs they're so iconic and
knows every melody and every note. On the downside, that
very same thing creates a whole bunch of pressure, right, Yes,
yeah for sure, because you hit a clam, people know it. Yeah,
(32:47):
but you know what you do and you got to
learn that stuff, Like it's actually kind of important to
make those big clams.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah, because that like, this is high school. This is
what it's for. Like, it's okay, And you learn professionalism
by making mistakes. You don't learn professionalism by instantly knowing
how to do everything right land the city. Yeah, it's
it's amazing. I love it. But you see the difference
when between grade nine and grade twelve. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah, well this was like I'm sure if you saw
this drummer who's in grade ten, you'd be like, oh, yeah,
this guy's got it so much, so much joy and
Craft's personship in playing the drums. It's interesting that you
talked about feedback. I was on a corporate gig last
(33:40):
week and asked a guy question and he gave me
a concise, considered, and helpful bit of feedback. Instantaneously cool.
I said, that's so awesome to just instead of wishy
washy like I don't know we could do this, but
maybe we do do this. I don't know, can I
get back to you. It was like, here's what we're
here's why boom so I said that was such great feedback,
(34:06):
and he said, it's funny you should say that. I
was working with a manager a few years ago who
is like, I think you need to read this book,
and it's called Thanks for the Feedback. So we've been
reading it as a family and something you just said
reminded me of that, because the first thing about feedback
(34:27):
is determining whether it's instruction and observation and opinion. So
this book is designed to equip you with tools to
accept feedback even when it's unwanted, unwelcome, sometimes untrue, sometimes misguided,
(34:49):
or coming from the wrong place. So it sort of
starts with a couple of theories. One is is it
actually feedback you're getting like identifying feedback, And the second
is it often has less to do with the giver
because your whole life, from coaches and parents and romantic
(35:09):
partners and family members, you will receive feedback much of
it unsolicited mm hmm, and it's more about what the
receiver chooses to do with it.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Well, you know, it's funny because like you're I was
talking with a musician friend of mine about this recently,
and we were talking about another musician that I won't
I'm not going to name names because it'll get you'll
find out who it is quick. But like people that
like you can't you respect them and you think they're great,
(35:42):
but you didn't realize, like I didn't realize that this
person would consistently like say something not necessarily helpful, but
in a in a like seems like like as if
you know, when you come up to someone and you
say like, hey, man, have a great show, and then like, oh,
(36:03):
like you're wearing that like oh like that that kind
of but not even not even it. It's more veiled
than that, Like so it's almost like, you know, like
how you were saying, is this you know, criticism or
feedback like useful? And it's like, well, it has to
be useful because this this person is well respected and
(36:26):
amazing at what they do. Yeah, but it's like, actually
it's not at all.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
I couldn't do that, Yeah, Like what do you mean, yeah, yeah,
like you know.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
There are ways of like hold on a second, like
that's really actually gonna do the opposite of helping me right.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Now, you're brave? What Yeah, Like I remember where I
couldn't do it?
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Like a classic I told you just before a famous
Canadian band their manager, like before they're about to do
their biggest show. They're in an elevator with their manager
and they're literally going to the stage and the manager
says to them, he goes, guys, don't fuck this sud.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Like, which is so broad it's almost hilarious.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Like all nervousess. They're about to go on. It's like, man, like,
thanks a lot, right, Like it's the worst.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
But this is This is something that I often talk
about with the girls because I remember one of them
said years ago, my favorite quote from Indigo is I'm
not gonna let some orthodonist tell me what to do
with my team. I was like, what that is? But
that is exactly what we're paying them money to do,
(37:43):
Like that that's their job.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Like what what do you mean that sounds like modern
like that's how things are now, Like, oh no, I'm
not gonna listen to this scientists. Yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Research And I remember one of them said, and it
was a out dance, and this was years ago. My
dance teacher keeps correcting me, and my point is always, no,
they're teaching you. You're learning how to do something you've
never done before. Why should you know how to do
something you've never done? And if you can get out
(38:17):
of your own way when someone who knows more than
you is offering to share their knowledge, it makes sense
that your instinct is to cross your arms and say,
don't tell me what to do. But if you are
the source, someone who's better at it, be doing it longer, older,
an insight that you don't, If you can just accept
(38:37):
that and let it wash over you, that's one of
life's great shortcuts.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
You Know. One thing I heard that really kind of
rang true was sometimes people that aren't I don't want
to say stupid, but when they're not smart and they're
trying to do something, say, you know, learn how to
play the piano and or golf or whatever, and they
(39:05):
get so frustrated, like right away and like really mad
almost that they can't do like ABC one two three,
one oh one bits right, and get more mad that
like there's something wrong with the format in which they're
being taught than their own creativity limitations, right, So like
(39:25):
they go into these rages and I was like, well,
this I heard from I guess a musical instructor that
the people that were that disillusioned with what they're trying
to do their pathway, they completely they somehow like the
(39:49):
elements that make them good at their instrument, those things
they think they can they're already there, and it's almost
like they can't see how bad they are.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
For the same reason that they can't get good at
the instrument, the same limitations that would get them better
at it, they can't even see what you do to
get there.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
So it's just like it's all like white noise and
just like just kind of makes you angry instead of
and I guess you think you also those same that
same lack of self awareness allows you to think you're
doing something better than you are. Like someone who's singing
a song and they, you know, if you record it
(40:35):
and play it back to them and say, did you
you just hear what you did? So, yeah, I was
killing it, And then they listened back and it's like,
now that's not me. It's somebody else, right, there's there's
just a numbness I don't know, like the same thing
that makes us not be afraid when we know we're
about to die. Maybe you know what I mean, Like this,
(40:56):
like something that somehow gives you a camnus that's maybe artificial.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I remember years ago I was doing I was the
host of a show on country music television, so to
cross promote the show I probably told you at the
time it was The show is called Popularity Contest, and
you take ten big city stereotypes and send them to
a small town called Vega, Texas. So the psychic and
(41:26):
the bitchy model and the stockbroker, like all these cartoon
character city slicker types, and every three days the townsfolk
vote on who they think best exemplifies what it's like
to live in that town, and the person with the
least votes gets driven to the county line by a sheriff.
Kind Of an interesting social experiment, but in the end,
(41:49):
a terrible idea for a show, because they voted out
all the colorful characters immediately, and the three most boring
contestants kind of made it to the end, and they
got one hundred grand and had to in turn split
it with the townsperson of their choice. Kind of a
good premise anyway.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Yeah, So because I.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Was on CMT, they wanted to cross promote the show,
so I got asked to be the red carpet correspondence
for the CMT Awards one year Pardon Me. And I
was in Nashville and I was on the red carpet
and I had the thing in my ear and there's
a bright light and it's chaotic and you can't really hear.
(42:29):
And I have to remember coming up after the break
Blake Shelton, Kenny Chesney and Faith Hill and they're counting
me down from five seconds or whatever. Someone's gonna throw
to me. I could barely hear. And all I kept
hearing in my head was smile. You got a smile, man, Smile,
more smile. And I was thinking, you guys, do you
(42:52):
know how hard this job is. We've talked about it before,
like Kyle bukowskis teeing up a hockey game perfectly, and
thirty seconds before the anthem starts, you get one crack
at it. You can't hear. It's a chaotic job. And
in that moment, they were right that that feedback was
absolutely right. It's a fun evening, it's an awards show.
(43:14):
You should be smiling. I looked like I was reporting
from Chernobyl, but in the moment to just open myself
up to the feedback, No, you're doing this wrong. It's
hard not to get your backup. It's like, do you
know how many things I'm doing right? Though? But that's
not the point?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Yep, No, because it's it's the icing on the cake. Really,
it's the simple, easiest thing to do, yet the most
important for people that are watching.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Yeah, because it's the and I say this as a
director often as well, it's the shortest path to making
the audience feel comfortable. Like if you smile, they're like, oh,
I trust this person. They seem relaxed and happy. But
if you're like intense and staring into the camera, especially
(44:05):
as a person like me with no eyebrows, it just
seems heavy.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Well, because you're trying to you know, you're you're about
to spew a bunch of information and you want to
come off you want you're focusing more on that sounding natural,
So then you're like, oh wait, the smiling, Oh yeah,
my face, my eyes.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
I felt like such a phony because it's like being
at the camera like a earbox, like hi everyone. Lot
of Johnathan Toy is the cmtalloids, but also America is
much more that way.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Mm hmm. Yeah, It's it's not easy. I I don't
envy that part of your life ever, because it's like
one of the things that I cannot do without reading.
It's talking to cameras. It's very hard. But unless I'm
like giving opinion, but if you're like say this, this
and this in five four three with a smile in
(45:06):
your voice, Oh yeah, everyone, I mean, that's that's one
of the hardest things to do actually, because it's ah,
you have to come across naturally. So honestly, that's like
almost harder than doing stand up comedy because at least
if you are given material that is funny, you know
(45:27):
what I mean, Like, even if it's one joke that's
funny and it takes two sentences to say it, that's
not the same thing as having to to say two
or three things into a camera and convey confidence and
just being chill, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
When we had to our podcast, I was more aware
of do I look present, do I engaged? Than what
I was going to say next or listening.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Yeah, yeah, it's a whole other layer to just chatting. Yeah,
and you're good at it. But yeah, but doing that
so many times, you got to have some good stories again.
You gotta, you know, make mistakes to get better at things.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Oh man, well, my all time biggest mistake, it's in
the book The New Year's Eve from Charlottetown.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah, calling people petal. Yeah. Well the Queen one's pretty
good too.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, oh yeah, but that's the Queen.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
The Queen one was more internal though, right, like, yeah, yeah,
she probably just thought I was a little off.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
And then he dumps.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
You just give a quick ten ten second recount of
the Queen one.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
I said C's fiftieth anniversary and Gordon pinsent as a
matter of fact, and Rick Mercer and I and some
other folks went to Queen School, where they're like, don't improvise,
stick to the script. She has a very tight agenda.
Just say what your line is. And my line was like,
(47:09):
your majesty. The CBC is a place to laugh. For
three decades, Canadians from coast to coast to coast have
gathered around the family hearth to share a laugh. And
a blap blah blah blah blah. So the person taking
her around takes her to Gordon Pinsent who's next to me,
and he has a twinkle in his eye and he's
handsome and charming, and she's giggling like a school girl.
And then she's led over to me and the woman
(47:32):
taking her around says, this is Jonathan. He's a performing producer.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
One second, that's almost like them. You know, Jimmy Hendrix
opening for the Monkeys.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Yeah, no, kiddy, no, kiddy.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
You just like saw Jimmy Hendricks walk up stage.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah, and he's like, good luck Pecker, Like, Gordon, can
you leave some charm for the rest of us? So
when she gets led to me, the person leading her
around says, this Jonathan, he's a performer producer. And she says, oh,
you're a producer. And I'm like, in my head they said,
(48:11):
don't improvise. How do I get from you're a producer
to the CBC is a place to laugh without going
off script? So what came out of my mouth was yeah, yeah,
but your majesty, CBC is also a place to laugh.
And I saw her eyes blaze over. She checked out,
and it went from being like this, this person might
(48:32):
be a human man to okay, Robot City, USA, I
miss Gordon Pinsent.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
You hit her with you hit the queen with the yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Yeahah yeah, yeah yeah the queen.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
And then he he judles to.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Me like I'm sure that like went into her and
just like that's it was almost like a lance. You
threw him and killed her.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Vote a weird gig for her though everywhere she goes,
no one's being myself.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
But you like that's your chance, right, you got, that's
all you got. But Benson really took the wind right out.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Yeah, I sure did.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Like why could you have switched it a round and say, look,
can you go after me?
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Man? Yeah? Let me open for him.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Meanwhile she's like asking Gordon if he wants to join
her for a glass of cooking sherry.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
He was just cool, man. But same thing like at
this at this age and this is the great thing
that comes with age. I know better now. Yeah, like
the G seven summit Haley in Halifax, where I tried
to fill eighteen minutes when there was a technical issue
instead of just saying enjoy the sunshine and have a
drink and We'll be right back. Yeah, Like the crowd
(49:50):
turned on me because I was twenty and full of
hubris and thought I could do that. Now, I'd be like,
that's that's an impossible task.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
It's a you know when you when you get older
and you look back, you're like, god, damn, I was.
You know, you're you're you know, there's all kinds of
things where you're like.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
What's a moment you wish you could have back?
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Probably Alex van Halen asking me to play a you
know you really Got Me and like not doing it,
like literally like you know, handing me the sticks come on,
Like Eddie ed Ed was playing Eruption the guitar solo
and which goes into you Really Got Me? And Alex
(50:42):
is like I was always sitting behind the kit watching
him play every night for that in ninety five, for
forty five shows, and became really close and anyway He's
like hands me as sticks and I had never even
like sat on his kit and messed around with them.
So I was just like fractured or worried about making
(51:03):
a mistake because Eddie Ed's like would have started and
I would have been playing, and he would have looked
over like what the hell's going on? But he was,
you know, and he was very nice. He probably would
have loved it, but I just I closed up and
I couldn't do it. I was scared. But yeah, that's
a regret for sure, because it would have been fun
(51:24):
just to rip it.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
And that as as a lay person, I feel like
that's a pretty easy beat, right.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yeah. I was just worried, you know, because I think
what happened was like a week or couple of months prior.
We were on another tour and I've been I'm fine
with sitting in, but like the song where I was
sitting into play was like this really tight like six
like like a really weird feel, and I just wasn't.
(51:55):
I was not feeling it at all, Like I couldn't
get it. So I like train wrecked and it was horrible.
Like I literally had to have someone come up and
save the song. Right, it was whatever, It's not a
big deal because everybody was just jamming anyway, but it
just happened, right, So I'm like, I'm not doing this
(52:15):
in front of these guys. So I had this worry
of like something that was totally not attached at all.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Those steaks are pretty.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
High, I know, but I should have just done it.
Even if I made a mistake, it would have been fine.
Like who cares you're playing with Ed Van Hallen for
crying out loud, you.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Know, like, come on, well, an interesting thing happened. I
remember reading somewhere recently Kobe Bryant said.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
I'm sorry before he finished, like when he handed me
the sticks, he says, I'm not going to ask you again,
Like he literally said that. I was like, fuck.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
I read someone recently. Kobe Bryant was never nervous because
he always said, I knew I trained as hard as
I possibly could, so no, no amount of more training
could impact the outcome because I put in the work.
And yes, I think my thing with the Queen is
I did not. I didn't really give it much thought
until she was standing there, and then all of a sudden,
(53:14):
my mouth went dry. I'm like, that's that's but no,
but that's the queen, Like that's the queen.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
Yeah, Like that's when your mouth goes like there's any
reason to do it. I mean, like there's really in
our lifetime, not a more famous person.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
No, but I had also just done Lyndon Meckin tell
You're on the Fifth Estate, a parody on twenty two Minutes,
and he was standing in the audience looking at me
over her shoulder. It was the first time I saw
him since I did it, and he gave me the
like I'm watching you, buddy.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
Oh, like he wasn't feeling it. Yeah, so that's you.
Never told me that. I was like that happened as well.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Yeah, so he.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Cooled you out right away.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
Yeah, he cooled that.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
It could be the number one thing there, like a
guy walking up to you on the roulette table and
you're on fire and just looking at and you're like,
who's this guy, And all of a sudden you started
rolling snake out.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
He's had of security for the casino.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
He just cooled you down hard.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
Yeah, lend Away Lyndon Ice Bucket challenged me.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
He gave me like a full on just like stare.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
Well you know that like you point your two fingers
at your eyes and then at the other person. Yeah,
like I'm watching you like you did it.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
Now We're like we're not the you ever. Did you
ever talk to him again?
Speaker 2 (54:32):
Yeah, but never about that. His fie, Darrell Off interviewed
me on on CBC Radio and she was like, before
we get going, I have to ask because I woke
Lyndon up laughing at this episode of twenty two minutes
you doing the impression of him. But by the time
I woke him up, it was over. But I never
(54:53):
saw it again. It's because the episode had gored in it, remember,
and the failure said to cease and desist letter. So
it's kind of this mythical Uni corn impression.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
So he might not have seen it, but he's pissed
off that you.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
Like whattes for.
Speaker 4 (55:08):
Yeah, he's mad at his wife heard lyric I bungled
milk that tonight on the fifth of State, Like it
was a good impression, useless one.
Speaker 1 (55:22):
She's flown like gold bananas, And so it was almost
like he's actually mad that you rised his wife.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
Yeah, I rised his wife through the screen. I rised
his life.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
It's like that's almost worse, like you made my wife
laugh harder than I did, you.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
Bastard, which I guess like I pintinted his wife.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yes, yes, yes, it all happened in that moment.
Speaker 2 (55:47):
Yeah, it was. It was like a pretty hairy thirty seconds.
And then of course every cherry on top was Prince
Philip saying what do you do here? And I said,
I work in children's TV. And he pointed to a
muppet behind me on the wall and said, is that
you there? And I turned around to look what he
was pointing at. When I turned back around, he was gone,
oh drive by Diths.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
Oh man, this is great. We're having a great time today.
We are Little Memory Lane.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
Little Memory Lane ski and now I have to bounce.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
Yeah, that's all right, that's all right, great chatting, good chatting, Bob.
We'll talk to you Verril soon.
Speaker 2 (56:25):
They're telling me that Taggard and Torren's podcast is pretty good.
Something went on here, something on there. It's time on
T and T.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Jair has a milestone birthday.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
We talked about that moment that you could take back
and what.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Role does feedback play in our lives. That's all coming
up right now on tn TY. But so, uh you
got a new toilet Tacoma.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
E oh yeah, I just uh picked it up two
weeks ago. I think how.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Well?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I mean, to be honest, I don't really like it.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I don't think I like it really the what's wrong
with it?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Well, I mean, I'm supposed to be fancy, it's supposed
to supposed to drive a fancy feel fancy. I'm in
it driving it, yeah, you know, just just doesn't feel
as comfortable as i'd like. You know, there's something something
about it. I don't know it's I mean, it's drives okay,
feels okay, everything that buttons worked. Oh yeah, but uh,
(01:12):
I just don't think I like it? You know.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Okay, where'd you take it? What kind of places?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Well? I went into town with it, drove it around.
I went on to some outer roads, like some lines.
I took it down a couple of concessions, some dirt roads,
just to feel it out. You know, pick up trucks
supposed to be able to ride in the place like that.
So I'm you know, I'm on the off roading and it,
you know, seems fine, but you know, it just was. Uh,
(01:39):
I don't know, I don't think I like it, though, you.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Know, I was fine, like our the cup holders and
uh and then and that sort of.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, cup holders are fine. I mean the one noticed
the coffee mug, like I couldn't put a coffee mug
because of the rehold it that didn't go in there.
So that's the thing. The light when it makes the
left turns a little loud. I went into town with
it to go to the Wendy's and uh, you know,
(02:13):
it fit in around the corner, but when it turned left,
I felt like it might be a bit big. Yeah,
when I went in around the window there, so that
was kind of annoying. But I did get it. I
got one of those new Cajun crunch sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
How do you like that?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I loved it. I mean, a pepper jack cheese and
a spicy mustards just got a nice kick to it.
You know, I really liked it. But anyway, so I
you know, drove home great sandwich. But you know, I
got home and I tried to do a little rough
like you know, not off roading, but you know how
I have some like space around my driveway to do.
(02:55):
I just did a couple like not real donuts, but
like fish tail kind of Oh yeah, and it was
it wasn't like it wasn't like, it wasn't cool like Banicheck.
You know, didn't have like a Banicheck thing. So okay,
I don't know, man, I just don't really like this Tacoma.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Okay, Well, good to see you.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, no problem on all right, get my citizen at
them all.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Hey there's Tony.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
How are you? Oh, how are you good? How are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
You know, they're telling me that new uh toyleta Tacoma's
not much good, that's what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Oh really, I heard they're fantastic.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Oh I heard you really try to go down a
concession road and you can't even put your coffee in
the holders that I heard.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Come on, I was thinking about get one of those.
Friend of mine told me they're fantastic.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
We'll tell you what you buy me one of them
new Cajun crunch sandwiches that I hear Wendy's they're pretty good.
Hold on those by me for helping you dodge a
bullet on that tacoma.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So you're saying the truck's no good, But the Sandwiches fans.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That's what they're telling me.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
All right, Well, damn.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I was gonna go try test driving one of those
tacomas tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
What are you driving right now?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Oh? You know? I got an F one fifteen?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
And how do you like em?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Not crazier, buddy.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
You know, it's just been there about it for a
long time, and it's the stuff is starting to go
out on it.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
What yours things?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
It's about five years old. It's just has time for
something new.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I just wondered maybe see if something else.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
But I heard those tacomas are good. But geez, now
I'm starting to think different.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
What color is your F one fifty?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Is about brown?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Brown? Eh?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, like coffee coffee nut brown.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Have you tried the Chinese food here at tomorrow? Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, I don't go in there. It's got some stuff there.
Last week wasn't very good.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I'll tell you what. Okayp don't do it?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, good to see you, Tony. I'll walk on. I guess, yeah,
try to have our stuffs in here at the mall theres, Gerald,
is it?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
What's going on? Gerald? Oh?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah? You doing what.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
You're getting with them all? Are you?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, I got my steps saying it's hard, you know,
just trying to doctor says you gotta walk, but I
feel like walking, but it's hard to hear you a bit.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Well, I guess from what they're telling me, you might
rather walk in them all than get that Chinese food
over there. They're telling me that's not much good.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You kidding. I was just about the houle some of
that r.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
It's pretty good. No, they're telling me it's not great,
not good. I mean it's not exactly a five year
old brown f one fifty because they're telling me that's
even worse.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
But uh oh really, I don't like sitting, but I
love driving in my pickup truck.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Goes thinking of getting one of those coleman.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh, they're telling me they're not much good.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
They're no good.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Ah, that's what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
They're like a big star.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Well, they're saying, like the coffee mug holders aren't very
good on them. And they're telling me that the uh
you try to drive down a concept, and they're telling
me that's you know, he turned the left is a
bit of a problem with them, that's what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Well, I'm more over like a kind of a booster
juice there. Anyway, when I'm in my truck, I don't
really like coffee mug.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well you know what that doesn't. But the only good
thing about them is you can eat one of those
Cajun crunched chicken sandwiches from Wendy's h Prave with comfortable
like elbow room and whatnot. But anything else, they're telling
me they're no good.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I had one of those sandwiches. I didn't like it.
I tell you how. The pepper jack No, I was terrible. Anyway,
I gotta go. I gotta call my grandmother.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Okay, Jerald, good to see you. Oh look who it is.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Hey, how are you?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I'm good? How are you? Jared?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I just I just I just talked to you a
little while ago.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Well, I'm hearing mixed reviews about that crunchy chicken sandwich
at Wendy's.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
What's that.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, they're telling me it's good, and they're telling me
it's bad. They're telling me, but.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Both well, I really enjoyed it that truck though.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, but they're telling me it's bad. And they're telling
me that the Tacoma isn't as bad as people are saying.
So I don't know what to think of all that
tell them.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
They're they don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I have one people were thinking again them and then
I was telling them that I heard they weren't great.
But then they were telling me they still wanted to
test drive of them. And then I was telling them
about the chicken sandwich and some of them been with that.
Either they're telling me that's not great.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Well whatever, I'm gonna just go back. I gotta go
back to work making the Chinese food at my restaurant.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Here they're telling me that a five year old brown
f one fifties every bit as good as that new Tacoma.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Oh well, they got to figure it out on their own.
But I just said, you know, I've been working all
day on this new recipe for my Chinese food restaurant
here at them all.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well, don't shoot the messenger. I'm just telling you what
they're telling me. And I heard that food is uh,
they're saying it's not great.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
What what are you're saying about who's saying.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Don't shoot the messenger. That's what they're telling me.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
That's food over there, his garbage. Hey, what the hell's
going on around you? This chaos at chaos at them all.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That's walk and labs at them all. This is my
father in law does this all the time. One person
will share the anecdotal evidence, and I'll hear him quote
it to someone else's Yeah, they're telling me apparently they're
saying it's not much good like well, one guy said,
I don't know how I feel about it, which has
now become a focused.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Test for the New Tacoma Yep.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, they don't get very good service in there.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I mean, that's kind of how things are these days, period, right,
true story, Right, it's just like running with stuff as gospel.
It's sunny out and someone said, I don't know it's
gonna rain in the middle minute here, do you know.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I would like to start by saying, well, no, actually,
I would like to start by saying happy birthday, Jeremy.
Oh yeah, thank you, fifty club.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
It's into the fifties here, we are fifty. How is fifty? Uh?
It feels like h it feels like fifty fifty years
old is what it feels like.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It's I don't know, something you have ever given much
thought to.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Not really, but the the uh when when you hear
your age more, it starts to I don't know, it's
like talking about something that you shouldn't be talking about, right,
like in your just I don't know. It just feels
weird too, because in a sense, when you when you
speak of something, you kind of like, I'm a big
(09:49):
believer in like pursuing your dreams, right, and those dreams
start with something you think and manifest in ways, right
because I you know, picking music is not the smartest thing,
so you have to kind of be believe in some
regard that it's the right idea through instinct. So I
(10:14):
think when you're talking about stuff, it kind of can
it happens, It can happen, So I don't I don't know. Well,
maybe when people talk about age or being older, or
the fact that it is a state of mind, because
everybody does feel the same no matter what age they are,
whether their kids are adults. So I do believe in
(10:36):
the power of positive thinking, and age really is just
a measurement. So and if you start thinking about longevity
and what happens when you get older. Don't it's not
good to dwell on the inevitable.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, my wife has a theory that whether you are
old or younger, whether you've gained a few pounds or
lost a few pounds, whether you got something for a
steal or paid a lot of money for it, no
one really cares. Those are three areas that you sort
of like should probably stay away from. I sometimes ask
(11:20):
people like what that set you back, as a joke,
as if I care how much their belt cost. Yeah,
but it's true, Like how old are you, Jeremy, I'm fifty. Oh,
you look great for your age, Like what that doesn't
help or really mean anything?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I know.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I do think one thing can be said unequivocally, which
is at fifty two, I don't perceive myself how I
always imagined a fifty two year old would be like
when we were little kids.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Absolutely. Yeah, that's the thing when your kids, that's when
you really judge age, because you don't understand a lot.
And there's a huge difference from being a kid to
an adult that's doing their own thing. Right. So yeah,
for sure, there's a there's a thing, but it's uh.
Once you become that really the references need to kind
(12:21):
of chill out because there's and I feel like the
older you get, it gets to become like you start,
that's all you talk about. You talk about the weather,
your health, and then age, how old everybody's getting?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, And then I think the next chapter is you
heard Stan died? Huh? Like when you're when you're that
age and you see, yes, some of your peers are
slipping away like that, that can't be much fun either.
Although it's no you know, but it's a scenario that
you're here to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I suppose exactly. And when you're when you're that age,
that's how it is.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
It's like I can't even believe, Like when someone asks
me how old I am, I have to stop and
think about it for a second because it's the number
is inconceivable, but it's not something that I give much
thought or weight to.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
One thing I do like about my age is that
it's kind of it's fitting with by being born in
seventy five and then twenty five and two thousand, Wow,
nice and real concise. Like I can just look at
like sn L and I'm like I or the CN
Tower and I'm like, I know how old I am.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Wow, that's clean. That's so clean.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I like the cleanness of the fives. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
So did you have a big to do? Was there
a big bash?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
We just had a nice family a little get together here.
We had a Lisa made a fantastic cake and the
kids all wrote amazing thing like that's That's one thing
that's I really love about these birthdays and moments is
(14:02):
sharing feelings with each other. And I got to say,
I'm proud of how my kids have the ability to
kind of really intricately explain their feelings in beautiful ways.
So it's really hard to get through cards without crying
all the time. But it's one of the best moments
there is, just because you you hear these wonderful things
(14:26):
from people that you really love more than anything in
the world.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
So would you say you're getting softer, It's.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
It's not soft, it's it's more awareness, you know, just
understanding what the words mean and the sentiment behind it,
and when you see their faces when you we read
them aloud. So it's just hard to get through, but
it's important to kind of maintain explanation of your feelings
(15:01):
to people. That you love, right because otherwise, like man, like,
if you don't focus on that, then especially nowadays, you're
kind of fucked. You know.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Do you know what? I like hearing And I don't
care how old you are. It feels great to hear
when someone says I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, I know. Yeah, that's the best, right anyone you
respect and love to hear that any kind of like, yeah, man,
you know what, I think you're great and I think
what you do is fantastic and keep doing it and
it's real and it's from someone that you can regard
(15:46):
in that light. It's great. Yes, I love it. So
it was a great night at night.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Sold a couple of bikes, trying to street sense my
daughter into gooes like financial literacy. So it's like, you
know what, grown a couple of bikes. I have a
bike I don't like. Let's fire them on Facebook, marketplace
and get them sold. So that's what we did on
Saturday morning.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
This is one of my favorite, uh Jonathan Torren's is
buying shit online and hearing how the people come around
like there's got to be something here, right, we're talking.
This is another It's it's icy because if someoney hears
this and as the person that did it right, like
(16:34):
the guy that was driving around in your car forever
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, that's such a greasy move. Take the car to
a mechanic and then come back with a long list
of things that makes me feel like I was trying
to get away with something like.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
What the hell?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Okay, so you meet new bushings. What Yeah, it's not
safe to drive without bushings.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Well that's also why the car was thirty eight point fifty.
But I was going to say I had two extremely
so we sold three bikes. Two were so clean it
was like being born in nineteen seventy five and turning
fifty and twenty twenty five, Like just clean and easy.
(17:20):
Where should we meet? This is the price? Here you
go as a bonus. One of them was a bud.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Nice no way.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, like love podcast but which is always such a
great reminder when you bump into people that people like
it and listen and even if we don't get them
out as much as we should. Also shouts to Jessica
at Cole's or whatever it's called. Introna might be Indigo
(17:52):
because she's brought in a bunch of our books and
they're selling Yes, fantastic on this wave of Canadianity. And
I was reminded how our book came out in the
Fall of Canada one point fifty, when people were like
enough with Canada already anyway, Yes nicely this moment, it's
having a little bump, even if it's at that one
(18:12):
store in Truro, We'll take it. Yeah, And the third
experience was not bad by any means. We just sort
of missed each other a couple of times. He did
whack me down on the price a tiny bit and
I had to go back to his place because I
did deliver the bikes. But all in all, what a
(18:33):
great financial lesson because I thought, in this moment, I'm
Jonathan Torren's dad of a kid who's outgrown her bike.
I don't have to be buddy from street sense. I'm
just a guy selling a thing that has some value.
And my father in law would say, the second you
want to sell something, put a fair price on it
and get it out the door, because you can exhaust
(18:57):
the extra hundred bucks you might get in corresponding with
four or five people trying to get your best price.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, there's no point in putting on a suit and going, hey,
let's get the deal covering.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
But as you selling a Byron and then all of
a sudden, wait, enough dough to buy a new bike.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Nice? Yeah, three old bikes out, one fresh bike.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Exactly taking up space in the garage. So all of
a sudden, I'm like, what else do we have that
I could sell?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah? I see, I'm I got a big problem with
that right now. There's too much stuff here that we
can sell, Like we need to do like a a
y I don't know, maybe like even like an auction
or something. Holy cow, yeah, Like it's so much stuff
that's like, yeah, that thing's really cool, but we don't
use that. So but it's so much that like a
(19:48):
yard sale isn't really a good idea because like first
and foremost, it's super pain in the ass getting all
your stuff out. It looks kind of ridiculous. Some people
love them. I'm not a fan because like then you're
like dealing with people and there's nothing nothing more low
ball than a front lawn offer. And it's happens to
(20:12):
be the guy that lives three doors over right, you're
opening yourself up to all kinds of new problems like
this thing's eighteen hundred bucks. You're not offering me thirty dollars.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Two dollars?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, right, yeah, super annoying, hassy guy that's got like
my bock and his driveway.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Hel baump six dollars.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, it's like that bad thing. That's awesome. Then it's
Lisa loves it, newses it all the time and like
that row thing. Right, what is imagine that's sitting on
the in the driveway and that it's like, dude, this
(21:01):
is they have one of these at Facebook where you
are with the you know, like where the people like
chill out. How about twelve doulas?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
How about twelve dollars?
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I hate that neighbor so much already I want I
hate them so much that I want them to be
real so I can mess with them.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
The problem with selling things is that you place an
emotional surtax value on these ideas. Someone doesn't know that
your aunt Jade gave you that coffee table, and it's
really meaningful reasonable to expect someone to pay a premium
(21:45):
because it holds emotional value for you.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
But that's the problem. Like all this stuff, it's not
like junk. There's no like stuff he can sell for
five bucks. It's like it's all stuff like that. You
can like, oh this this freaking you know those kitchen
aid things and don't make dough and spin around whatever,
and they're like five hundred bucks or whatever, like something
(22:10):
like eighteen dollars.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
The Australian Haggler is the best character in TV history.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I want to see him and I want to see
him get hurt in the end. Then some manner.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I've put three trailers from our business through Richie Brothers Auctions. Okay,
they have no reserve, they have no minimum bids, so
you can't say if I don't get eight thousand dollars,
it goes for what it goes for. And that's only
upside is if it sells for less than fifteen hundred dollars,
(22:50):
then you don't have to pay them a commission. But
while I'm here, let me just say Richie Brothers Auctions,
from the folks that work in the to the folks
that work in the office, to the people you talk
to on the phone, what a world class outfit. So
nice I sold In the last sale, I sold four
duley and a three room trailer. This time I sold
(23:13):
two two room trailers and a five room trailer it has,
Oh and the fifth wheel years ago that remember was it?
Mac came to look at and he's like, is it pristine.
I was like, yeah, it's pristine, and he's like this
wall is rotting. Oh yeah, remember.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Mac? Yes? Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
So the nice thing about a Richie Brothers auction is
that you tend to get about what it's worth.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I have noticed that, like with Lisa. Look, you know,
she's always looking at auctions and she notices that everything
is going for almost what it's worth. And like she
was looking at one couple days ago at this like
really cool. You know those backpacks that are also lugged. Yeah, right,
that Samsonite one.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I don't down to the size of a baggie.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Well not really. It's just a nice, solid, great for
like if you're touring or whatever, you don't have to
carry everything. But I don't know, I don't know they're
three hundred bucks or two hundred bucks, whatever they are.
This thing was already at that price, just in the auction,
and like a Canada Goose jacket was like that's probably
fourteen hundred bucks, was at already at eight hundred dollars.
(24:30):
Like it's crazy. Everything is selling for what it is worth.
So everybody is either found out that auctions are another
way to buy retail stuff. But it's a new outlet
for a new way of people getting things, but the
deals aren't there anymore really.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
So again with my father in law, what he would
say about Richie Brothers is they sell it for retail
and you get the wholesale value once they've taken their cut.
But yeah, it's one stop shopping. It's access to a
huge audience of people. Like these are pretty specialized vehicles.
They're film actor dressing room trailers. Like you could use
(25:15):
it as a hunting camp or if you had a
construction site for a place for guys to rest or eat,
launch or shower whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Like.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
They are pretty handy, but they don't have It's not
like a camper that anyone could use. So in every
case with Richie Brothers, I've gotten like maybe one thing
went for less, one thing went for more, But all
things considered, I got about what I think is fair
for them, And really, you can't you can't do better
(25:43):
than that.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
No, you can't do better than Richie's.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
You can't do better than Richie Brothers' auctions. Also, they
have like so many trucks and so many booms and
so many excavators. And then they have the like non
operational section, and then they have the like you know,
like a barn in a box, like a big door building. Yeah,
(26:10):
and then they have shipping containers with like doors and
windows on them, like a mobile.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Office is there, Like you drive up to it and
it's like bass pro shop warehouse kind of.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
They have a big yard and they also have like
imagine golf carts but that were sort of decked out
like a Rolls Royce or it's an English taxi. Yeah,
they're wicked. I'm gonna send you a picture.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
All of a sudden, it's like, can I get a
mustache and a taxi and a dually?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Well that's the danger is you can get sucked into
the magic and buy stuff that you don't need.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
You know what, I think I'm gonna take that horse
carousel that came from Woodbine Center.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah. The last thing I bought at auction was from
the estate of Gordon Pinsent.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Oh what'd you get?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I got a horse statue. I loved him, of course,
and admired his career and thought a lot of how
he carried himself in public. He was warm and friendly
and kind of understood who he was in the world
for sure, So when people would stop him, he always
(27:29):
made time for them. And so do you think, do
you think this was like a statue like in his
den or something. I don't know. I worked with his niece.
His niece is a wonderful woman who you met when
we did Strombo's house. Her name is Sarah Pinson. She's terrific.
She works at CBC, Like just really cool, awesome person.
(27:50):
And I shared a picture of this statue with her
and she was like, huh, don't remember seeing that at
Uncle Gordon's. So it might have been in storage or something.
But I like the idea of having something around to
remind me of his the way he moved through the world.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Absolutely, I'm a big fan of that stuff. But it's
a piece of touch in history.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah, felt a little weird going through, you know, an
auction of his personal effects.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Well, it's kind of like it's at that point. It's
like a kind of you know, memorabilia auction at a sense,
because you're just everybody's trying to get, like what you said,
have something in their house that can remind them of it, and.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Some of it is like he's a lovely painting, but
some of it was like salad tongs, and that's when
it starts to feel a bit weird. I sent you
the other day plastic rain hat for rainy Days, Clayton Park.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I saw where that was classic.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
It's just outside of Halifax. But the write up for it, the.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
See through rain hat like one of those basically like
a mall, but it's see through plastics.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Imagine a woman of a certain age taking a picture
of herself wearing it, but also explaining that the you
can see the back of it in the mirror behind her,
like it's a good shot.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
It's fantast dollars to coverage.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, but she said, just to be clear this it's
not this actual one that I have on my head.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I'm keeping that because this one isn't going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
So I run into this sometimes when you're creating an
ad for a bike and the headline is kid's bike,
and then it's like, what's the right up, Like, I
don't know, there's there's pictures of it. It's a bike,
Like what do you people want?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
She's like, and again, not the one in the photo
because that's mine and I'm keeping it.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
So this is her right up for the rain bonnet
keep your hair dry on those rainy days. That checks
out much better than a jacket hood that's subjective ties
in front. As you can see from the back end picture,
it will cover your head very well. New in unopened package.
The one I'm showing in the picture is my personal one.
(30:10):
The other one has uppercase, never been opened. Pick up
in Clayton Park across from the Lacewood bus terminal.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
As it's is it still up?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I don't know. It reminds me of the Nate Bargatzi
joke where he's like, my wife sells stuff on Facebook
marketplace for five bucks and invites people to our home.
The best case scenarios we get five bucks. The worst
case scenario is we get murdered. Like, is it worth
five dollars?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I thought it was like looking for the conversations you
want to see? You want a cup of coffee?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah? Maybe right? I should hail bit two dollars on
the wrong body and see if I can get it.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I can't take that guy, but then.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
You'd have to spend an hour and a half with
Nan you know who do that, Gordon Pinsent would he
sure would break. But well, I had the extraordinary pleasure
of attending the CEC High School production of Mama Mia.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
My daughter's sugar Daisy was in the ensemble. She had
a little dance solo. She uh was one of the dancers.
I'm gonna tell you what. Jeremy world class uh singing. Yeah,
and the band was tighter than two coats of paint.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Come on, I love that.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
I also want The drummer was in grade ten and
this kid flows like. There were a couple of a
couple of ringers in the in the band like some uh,
some adults and a teacher. The band leader was also
(31:53):
a teacher like like career kind of musicians. But the
coolest thing was seeing there were sisters who did percussion
and watching them like, I'm just going to stroll over
to the timpany just in time to hit this role
and then walk back to get the witch of witcha
like they probably played ten instruments between the two of them.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I love nice and well that's that's what Analyz is
doing in her arts. Percussion. Percussion, Yeah, awesome. The thing
it is fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
The thing about a musical like Mama Mia. Like, on
the upside, everyone knows those songs they're so iconic and
knows every melody and every note. On the downside, that
very same thing creates a whole bunch of pressure, right, Yes,
yeah for sure, because you hit a clam, people know it. Yeah,
(32:47):
but you know what you do and you got to
learn that stuff, Like it's actually kind of important to
make those big clams.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah, because that like, this is high school. This is
what it's for. Like, it's okay, And you learn professionalism
by making mistakes. You don't learn professionalism by instantly knowing
how to do everything right land the city. Yeah, it's
it's amazing. I love it. But you see the difference
when between grade nine and grade twelve. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah, well this was like I'm sure if you saw
this drummer who's in grade ten, you'd be like, oh, yeah,
this guy's got it so much, so much joy and
Craft's personship in playing the drums. It's interesting that you
talked about feedback. I was on a corporate gig last
(33:40):
week and asked a guy question and he gave me
a concise, considered, and helpful bit of feedback. Instantaneously cool.
I said, that's so awesome to just instead of wishy
washy like I don't know we could do this, but
maybe we do do this. I don't know, can I
get back to you. It was like, here's what we're
here's why boom so I said that was such great feedback,
(34:06):
and he said, it's funny you should say that. I
was working with a manager a few years ago who
is like, I think you need to read this book,
and it's called Thanks for the Feedback. So we've been
reading it as a family and something you just said
reminded me of that, because the first thing about feedback
(34:27):
is determining whether it's instruction and observation and opinion. So
this book is designed to equip you with tools to
accept feedback even when it's unwanted, unwelcome, sometimes untrue, sometimes misguided,
(34:49):
or coming from the wrong place. So it sort of
starts with a couple of theories. One is is it
actually feedback you're getting like identifying feedback, And the second
is it often has less to do with the giver
because your whole life, from coaches and parents and romantic
(35:09):
partners and family members, you will receive feedback much of
it unsolicited mm hmm, and it's more about what the
receiver chooses to do with it.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Well, you know, it's funny because like you're I was
talking with a musician friend of mine about this recently,
and we were talking about another musician that I won't
I'm not going to name names because it'll get you'll
find out who it is quick. But like people that
like you can't you respect them and you think they're great,
(35:42):
but you didn't realize, like I didn't realize that this
person would consistently like say something not necessarily helpful, but
in a in a like seems like like as if
you know, when you come up to someone and you
say like, hey, man, have a great show, and then like, oh,
(36:03):
like you're wearing that like oh like that that kind
of but not even not even it. It's more veiled
than that, Like so it's almost like, you know, like
how you were saying, is this you know, criticism or
feedback like useful? And it's like, well, it has to
be useful because this this person is well respected and
(36:26):
amazing at what they do. Yeah, but it's like, actually
it's not at all.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
I couldn't do that, Yeah, Like what do you mean, yeah, yeah,
like you know.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
There are ways of like hold on a second, like
that's really actually gonna do the opposite of helping me right.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Now, you're brave? What Yeah, Like I remember where I
couldn't do it?
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Like a classic I told you just before a famous
Canadian band their manager, like before they're about to do
their biggest show. They're in an elevator with their manager
and they're literally going to the stage and the manager
says to them, he goes, guys, don't fuck this sud.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Like, which is so broad it's almost hilarious.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Like all nervousess. They're about to go on. It's like, man, like,
thanks a lot, right, Like it's the worst.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
But this is This is something that I often talk
about with the girls because I remember one of them
said years ago, my favorite quote from Indigo is I'm
not gonna let some orthodonist tell me what to do
with my team. I was like, what that is? But
that is exactly what we're paying them money to do,
(37:43):
Like that that's their job.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Like what what do you mean that sounds like modern
like that's how things are now, Like, oh no, I'm
not gonna listen to this scientists. Yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Research And I remember one of them said, and it
was a out dance, and this was years ago. My
dance teacher keeps correcting me, and my point is always, no,
they're teaching you. You're learning how to do something you've
never done before. Why should you know how to do
something you've never done? And if you can get out
(38:17):
of your own way when someone who knows more than
you is offering to share their knowledge, it makes sense
that your instinct is to cross your arms and say,
don't tell me what to do. But if you are
the source, someone who's better at it, be doing it longer, older,
an insight that you don't, If you can just accept
(38:37):
that and let it wash over you, that's one of
life's great shortcuts.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
You Know. One thing I heard that really kind of
rang true was sometimes people that aren't I don't want
to say stupid, but when they're not smart and they're
trying to do something, say, you know, learn how to
play the piano and or golf or whatever, and they
(39:05):
get so frustrated, like right away and like really mad
almost that they can't do like ABC one two three,
one oh one bits right, and get more mad that
like there's something wrong with the format in which they're
being taught than their own creativity limitations, right, So like
(39:25):
they go into these rages and I was like, well,
this I heard from I guess a musical instructor that
the people that were that disillusioned with what they're trying
to do their pathway, they completely they somehow like the
(39:49):
elements that make them good at their instrument, those things
they think they can they're already there, and it's almost
like they can't see how bad they are.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
For the same reason that they can't get good at
the instrument, the same limitations that would get them better
at it, they can't even see what you do to
get there.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
So it's just like it's all like white noise and
just like just kind of makes you angry instead of
and I guess you think you also those same that
same lack of self awareness allows you to think you're
doing something better than you are. Like someone who's singing
a song and they, you know, if you record it
(40:35):
and play it back to them and say, did you
you just hear what you did? So, yeah, I was
killing it, And then they listened back and it's like,
now that's not me. It's somebody else, right, there's there's
just a numbness I don't know, like the same thing
that makes us not be afraid when we know we're
about to die. Maybe you know what I mean, Like this,
(40:56):
like something that somehow gives you a camnus that's maybe artificial.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I remember years ago I was doing I was the
host of a show on country music television, so to
cross promote the show I probably told you at the
time it was The show is called Popularity Contest, and
you take ten big city stereotypes and send them to
a small town called Vega, Texas. So the psychic and
(41:26):
the bitchy model and the stockbroker, like all these cartoon
character city slicker types, and every three days the townsfolk
vote on who they think best exemplifies what it's like
to live in that town, and the person with the
least votes gets driven to the county line by a sheriff.
Kind Of an interesting social experiment, but in the end,
(41:49):
a terrible idea for a show, because they voted out
all the colorful characters immediately, and the three most boring
contestants kind of made it to the end, and they
got one hundred grand and had to in turn split
it with the townsperson of their choice. Kind of a
good premise anyway.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Yeah, So because I.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Was on CMT, they wanted to cross promote the show,
so I got asked to be the red carpet correspondence
for the CMT Awards one year Pardon Me. And I
was in Nashville and I was on the red carpet
and I had the thing in my ear and there's
a bright light and it's chaotic and you can't really hear.
(42:29):
And I have to remember coming up after the break
Blake Shelton, Kenny Chesney and Faith Hill and they're counting
me down from five seconds or whatever. Someone's gonna throw
to me. I could barely hear. And all I kept
hearing in my head was smile. You got a smile, man, Smile,
more smile. And I was thinking, you guys, do you
(42:52):
know how hard this job is. We've talked about it before,
like Kyle bukowskis teeing up a hockey game perfectly, and
thirty seconds before the anthem starts, you get one crack
at it. You can't hear. It's a chaotic job. And
in that moment, they were right that that feedback was
absolutely right. It's a fun evening, it's an awards show.
(43:14):
You should be smiling. I looked like I was reporting
from Chernobyl, but in the moment to just open myself
up to the feedback, No, you're doing this wrong. It's
hard not to get your backup. It's like, do you
know how many things I'm doing right? Though? But that's
not the point?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Yep, No, because it's it's the icing on the cake. Really,
it's the simple, easiest thing to do, yet the most
important for people that are watching.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Yeah, because it's the and I say this as a
director often as well, it's the shortest path to making
the audience feel comfortable. Like if you smile, they're like, oh,
I trust this person. They seem relaxed and happy. But
if you're like intense and staring into the camera, especially
(44:05):
as a person like me with no eyebrows, it just
seems heavy.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Well, because you're trying to you know, you're you're about
to spew a bunch of information and you want to
come off you want you're focusing more on that sounding natural,
So then you're like, oh wait, the smiling, Oh yeah,
my face, my eyes.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
I felt like such a phony because it's like being
at the camera like a earbox, like hi everyone. Lot
of Johnathan Toy is the cmtalloids, but also America is
much more that way.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Mm hmm. Yeah, It's it's not easy. I I don't
envy that part of your life ever, because it's like
one of the things that I cannot do without reading.
It's talking to cameras. It's very hard. But unless I'm
like giving opinion, but if you're like say this, this
and this in five four three with a smile in
(45:06):
your voice, Oh yeah, everyone, I mean, that's that's one
of the hardest things to do actually, because it's ah,
you have to come across naturally. So honestly, that's like
almost harder than doing stand up comedy because at least
if you are given material that is funny, you know
(45:27):
what I mean, Like, even if it's one joke that's
funny and it takes two sentences to say it, that's
not the same thing as having to to say two
or three things into a camera and convey confidence and
just being chill, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
When we had to our podcast, I was more aware
of do I look present, do I engaged? Than what
I was going to say next or listening.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Yeah, yeah, it's a whole other layer to just chatting. Yeah,
and you're good at it. But yeah, but doing that
so many times, you got to have some good stories again.
You gotta, you know, make mistakes to get better at things.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Oh man, well, my all time biggest mistake, it's in
the book The New Year's Eve from Charlottetown.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah, calling people petal. Yeah. Well the Queen one's pretty
good too.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, oh yeah, but that's the Queen.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
The Queen one was more internal though, right, like, yeah, yeah,
she probably just thought I was a little off.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
And then he dumps.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
You just give a quick ten ten second recount of
the Queen one.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
I said C's fiftieth anniversary and Gordon pinsent as a
matter of fact, and Rick Mercer and I and some
other folks went to Queen School, where they're like, don't improvise,
stick to the script. She has a very tight agenda.
Just say what your line is. And my line was like,
(47:09):
your majesty. The CBC is a place to laugh. For
three decades, Canadians from coast to coast to coast have
gathered around the family hearth to share a laugh. And
a blap blah blah blah blah. So the person taking
her around takes her to Gordon Pinsent who's next to me,
and he has a twinkle in his eye and he's
handsome and charming, and she's giggling like a school girl.
And then she's led over to me and the woman
(47:32):
taking her around says, this is Jonathan. He's a performing producer.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
One second, that's almost like them. You know, Jimmy Hendrix
opening for the Monkeys.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Yeah, no, kiddy, no, kiddy.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
You just like saw Jimmy Hendricks walk up stage.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah, and he's like, good luck Pecker, Like, Gordon, can
you leave some charm for the rest of us? So
when she gets led to me, the person leading her
around says, this Jonathan, he's a performer producer. And she says, oh,
you're a producer. And I'm like, in my head they said,
(48:11):
don't improvise. How do I get from you're a producer
to the CBC is a place to laugh without going
off script? So what came out of my mouth was yeah, yeah,
but your majesty, CBC is also a place to laugh.
And I saw her eyes blaze over. She checked out,
and it went from being like this, this person might
(48:32):
be a human man to okay, Robot City, USA, I
miss Gordon Pinsent.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
You hit her with you hit the queen with the yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Yeahah yeah, yeah yeah the queen.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
And then he he judles to.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Me like I'm sure that like went into her and
just like that's it was almost like a lance. You
threw him and killed her.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Vote a weird gig for her though everywhere she goes,
no one's being myself.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
But you like that's your chance, right, you got, that's
all you got. But Benson really took the wind right out.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Yeah, I sure did.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Like why could you have switched it a round and say, look,
can you go after me?
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Man? Yeah? Let me open for him.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Meanwhile she's like asking Gordon if he wants to join
her for a glass of cooking sherry.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
He was just cool, man. But same thing like at
this at this age and this is the great thing
that comes with age. I know better now. Yeah, like
the G seven summit Haley in Halifax, where I tried
to fill eighteen minutes when there was a technical issue
instead of just saying enjoy the sunshine and have a
drink and We'll be right back. Yeah, Like the crowd
(49:50):
turned on me because I was twenty and full of
hubris and thought I could do that. Now, I'd be like,
that's that's an impossible task.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
It's a you know when you when you get older
and you look back, you're like, god, damn, I was.
You know, you're you're you know, there's all kinds of
things where you're like.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
What's a moment you wish you could have back?
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Probably Alex van Halen asking me to play a you
know you really Got Me and like not doing it,
like literally like you know, handing me the sticks come on,
Like Eddie ed Ed was playing Eruption the guitar solo
and which goes into you Really Got Me? And Alex
(50:42):
is like I was always sitting behind the kit watching
him play every night for that in ninety five, for
forty five shows, and became really close and anyway He's
like hands me as sticks and I had never even
like sat on his kit and messed around with them.
So I was just like fractured or worried about making
(51:03):
a mistake because Eddie Ed's like would have started and
I would have been playing, and he would have looked
over like what the hell's going on? But he was,
you know, and he was very nice. He probably would
have loved it, but I just I closed up and
I couldn't do it. I was scared. But yeah, that's
a regret for sure, because it would have been fun
(51:24):
just to rip it.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
And that as as a lay person, I feel like
that's a pretty easy beat, right.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yeah. I was just worried, you know, because I think
what happened was like a week or couple of months prior.
We were on another tour and I've been I'm fine
with sitting in, but like the song where I was
sitting into play was like this really tight like six
like like a really weird feel, and I just wasn't.
(51:55):
I was not feeling it at all, Like I couldn't
get it. So I like train wrecked and it was horrible.
Like I literally had to have someone come up and
save the song. Right, it was whatever, It's not a
big deal because everybody was just jamming anyway, but it
just happened, right, So I'm like, I'm not doing this
(52:15):
in front of these guys. So I had this worry
of like something that was totally not attached at all.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Those steaks are pretty.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
High, I know, but I should have just done it.
Even if I made a mistake, it would have been fine.
Like who cares you're playing with Ed Van Hallen for
crying out loud, you.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Know, like, come on, well, an interesting thing happened. I
remember reading somewhere recently Kobe Bryant said.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
I'm sorry before he finished, like when he handed me
the sticks, he says, I'm not going to ask you again,
Like he literally said that. I was like, fuck.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
I read someone recently. Kobe Bryant was never nervous because
he always said, I knew I trained as hard as
I possibly could, so no, no amount of more training
could impact the outcome because I put in the work.
And yes, I think my thing with the Queen is
I did not. I didn't really give it much thought
until she was standing there, and then all of a sudden,
(53:14):
my mouth went dry. I'm like, that's that's but no,
but that's the queen, Like that's the queen.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
Yeah, Like that's when your mouth goes like there's any
reason to do it. I mean, like there's really in
our lifetime, not a more famous person.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
No, but I had also just done Lyndon Meckin tell
You're on the Fifth Estate, a parody on twenty two Minutes,
and he was standing in the audience looking at me
over her shoulder. It was the first time I saw
him since I did it, and he gave me the
like I'm watching you, buddy.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
Oh, like he wasn't feeling it. Yeah, so that's you.
Never told me that. I was like that happened as well.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Yeah, so he.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Cooled you out right away.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
Yeah, he cooled that.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
It could be the number one thing there, like a
guy walking up to you on the roulette table and
you're on fire and just looking at and you're like,
who's this guy, And all of a sudden you started
rolling snake out.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
He's had of security for the casino.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
He just cooled you down hard.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
Yeah, lend Away Lyndon Ice Bucket challenged me.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
He gave me like a full on just like stare.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
Well you know that like you point your two fingers
at your eyes and then at the other person. Yeah,
like I'm watching you like you did it.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
Now We're like we're not the you ever. Did you
ever talk to him again?
Speaker 2 (54:32):
Yeah, but never about that. His fie, Darrell Off interviewed
me on on CBC Radio and she was like, before
we get going, I have to ask because I woke
Lyndon up laughing at this episode of twenty two minutes
you doing the impression of him. But by the time
I woke him up, it was over. But I never
(54:53):
saw it again. It's because the episode had gored in it, remember,
and the failure said to cease and desist letter. So
it's kind of this mythical Uni corn impression.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
So he might not have seen it, but he's pissed
off that you.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
Like whattes for.
Speaker 4 (55:08):
Yeah, he's mad at his wife heard lyric I bungled
milk that tonight on the fifth of State, Like it
was a good impression, useless one.
Speaker 1 (55:22):
She's flown like gold bananas, And so it was almost
like he's actually mad that you rised his wife.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
Yeah, I rised his wife through the screen. I rised
his life.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
It's like that's almost worse, like you made my wife
laugh harder than I did, you.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
Bastard, which I guess like I pintinted his wife.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yes, yes, yes, it all happened in that moment.
Speaker 2 (55:47):
Yeah, it was. It was like a pretty hairy thirty seconds.
And then of course every cherry on top was Prince
Philip saying what do you do here? And I said,
I work in children's TV. And he pointed to a
muppet behind me on the wall and said, is that
you there? And I turned around to look what he
was pointing at. When I turned back around, he was gone,
oh drive by Diths.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
Oh man, this is great. We're having a great time today.
We are Little Memory Lane.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
Little Memory Lane ski and now I have to bounce.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
Yeah, that's all right, that's all right, great chatting, good chatting, Bob.
We'll talk to you Verril soon.
Speaker 2 (56:25):
They're telling me that Taggard and Torren's podcast is pretty good.
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