Walk of Fame

Jono visited his Dad’s hometown and talks about his new TV show, Pretty Blind, plus Jer talks about his Canada’s Walk of Fame induction!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Something went on, something on there, and it's time.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
On TNT, I went to my dad's hometown in England
for the first time.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
I talk about my Canadian Walk of Fame induction.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
And I t up our brand new TV show Pretty Blind.
That's all coming up right now on TNT Walk.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Of Fame brot Walk of Fame BRA Sorry for the delay.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, let's start with two things. We recorded just a
corner of a podcast. It was like a remarket, like
genuine l O L's And then I got to the
end and couldn't save it. It wouldn't save.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Some more classic TNT technical moments.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
So I tried to save it and couldn't, and so
eventually I was like, Okay, I guess I'll have to
close it and restart it. And I did, and it
said the file is their but it was infected. I
tried for day to save it didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Happens sometimes, at least it wasn't. The Polpe interview.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah true. And then another thing, the last I'm gonna say,
conservatively twelve days, every time I call someone on my telephone,
they're like, can't hear you, man, Sorry, breaking up? Can't
hear you?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
So I just crackle.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
I went into the cellular service provider. I said I
was having this issue, and they said, yeah, a bunch
of people are. And I was like, okay, let's drill
down on that. What's the happening? And they said, must
be a problem with a tower in the area where you.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Live, which is like in general a thing. Yeah, the
tower where you live. Yeah, exactly. So you sent me
a photo of like a big excavator on your property.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
It looked like, oh yeah, So Carol and I stained
the house and barn. We got a we got a quote.
It was gonna be twenty k to have some maths
stay in our house and barn. Yeah, so we're like,
let's rent a boom for three hundred and forty three
dollars and pay ourselves twenty k to listen to some
tunes and hang out together.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
A pie that's pretty handy like that.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
I love doing a chore that has a concrete outcome,
like paint a white wall blue. I love that because
you can see your progress if you feel like you're
doing something productive. It's not that challenging, but it is satisfying. Anyway,
Why are we talking about this one? We could be
talking about Canada's Walk of Fame.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
I know, I'm just going to a quieter location than
I'm in the basement and the furnace turned on going
into going into the drum room.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Here, let's start with a question on everyone's mind. Was
it the Awk of Fame?

Speaker 1 (02:52):
What the ok? Like, what does that mean?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Hawkworse? No, No, it was fine. Was award?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
It was not aw a fame it.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Was it was fine. Yeah, it was. I mean it
was interesting in the sense that like it's big. It's
a big, like a huge production. There's so many people
and tables and with all the other inductees and like
the the you know, the speeches, and it's like it's

(03:30):
like six hours.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Are you quite serious?

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah? And I was like late. I was already late,
so I missed like the red carpet part. I got
there at like six, but it went to like ten.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Why were you late?

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Traffic traffic, Yeah, Toronto traffic coming up down from Newmarket.
It's just like you, I guess two hours wasn't enough time.
So yeah, it was long, but like amazing. Like the
other inductees, there's great stories and people that were very
talented and sitting through it all is pretty pretty pretty.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Cool doctor Samantha Nutt.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, a lot of I don't like. It was, like
I said, the so many incredible people that were far
more talented than I am, you know what I'm saying.
So when you and it's a it's a band kind
of smattered in with all these like, uh, just insanely

(04:34):
talented heart surgeons and and and the who's the math
who does the Deadpool movies, Ryan Reynolds, the director of
all that and the Stranger Things guy, Sean Levy. He
was like, like, people like that and that the heart
surgeon especially like unbelievable, like the the talent and the

(04:58):
career span. Just anyway, going up there, I was lucky
enough to say a few words and didn't like, I'll
like it was all six hours or whatever. So the
actual show was an hour, so there was nothing really
everything was pretty much cut. So well it was well, yeah,

(05:21):
I mean, I guess in my only thing I wanted
to do was just think, you know, my family, my parents,
my kids, you know, Lisa, and you know that's all
you want to do for this, so you get to
I got to do that there, which was great, but

(05:42):
you know, when it's cut, it's kind of like, all right,
it's kind of an afterthought when you watch the show.
So you know, there were so many tables and people,
and it was twenty five thousand all there's a table
of extra guests or twenty five hundred bucks. It's just

(06:03):
a lot of cash going around and a big deal
and fast and so yeah, we're in there now.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
So, at the risk of sounding crasp, who pays for that?
The label? The band?

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, the band gets I guess two tables, so I
got one guest. But if I wanted the kids come
that then it's like another seventy five hundred bucks, which
was like a little bit nuts.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
So did did our Lady Piece Inc. Pay for those
two tables or no?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Like I said, they got to get two.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Tables as an inductee. You get two tables, right.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
And then it's uh, it's it's expensive after that.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
So were you sitting at the table with the boys?

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah? How was it beside the boys? So I was
with Mike Turner and Karen is his partner, and and Lisa,
and we were just chilling with the coalition basically the management, Eric,
Robin and Davy and and so it's nice to connect
and talk to to all the coalition folks and and
kind of have a have a good hang. The night

(07:10):
before was the Kevin Meekl Celebration of Life, so I
got to see some people there before as well, so
it's nice to kind of catch up with everybody on
the week. And yeah, I don't know, it's kind of weird,
you know, fair when you see see such a big
deal and I don't know, maybe you and I should

(07:30):
start a Walk of fame out east, like get a
little strip of land in Halifax. Yeah, start just finding
people to pay some cash to go and next thing,
you know, right, not a bad idea.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
So I have unsurprisingly, I have questions.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Because when you do it right, every there's there's so
many like we yeah with a band, there's the label people,
and there's just a lot of opportunities for people to
buy tables and tickets. Yeah, it's kind of interesting you
think about it.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
It is interesting, And there are some comparisons to like
the Canadian Screen Awards, where you pay to submit for example,
and it's if the optics are good of you receiving
the nomination and that in theory helps your business and
something to promote. But it can get a little crazy
when you're like, I don't know, should we submit the
sound people, should we submit best visual research? Like there

(08:25):
are categories for everything. So does OLP submit themselves for
consideration to the Walk of Fame? Or is the Walk
of Fame? Like who's deserving? Like how did the mechanics
of this happened?

Speaker 1 (08:40):
You know? Well, I mean this originally came about and
just at the year I was leaving the band, this
was going to happen oh way back in twenty fourteen
or ty, yeah, twenty fourteen at the time. So I
guess the whole kind of thing was shelved crazy for
a good reason, I guess. But yeah, so I'm not

(09:04):
sure how it comes about. Maybe it's a label. I
don't know, maybe because I don't think it was manager
the management, so I don't know. Maybe Rain himself was like, hey,
I don't know where to but I don't know how
it is. But I think it's kind of like, isn't
the the Hollywood Walk of Fame? Like it's that that
we're literally like, if you're an actor, you're like, yo,

(09:27):
I want a star and they're like, sure, no problem.
That's seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars and whatever else, right,
Like the person pays for all that, so in a sense,
a promotional opportunity after you got nothing left to talk
about or whatever. You know. Yeah, it's like I don't

(09:49):
know's that's what that is? Right, you would know more
about that than I would. I'm pretty sure that the
actors pay for that.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Well. I know, for example, with the Order of Canada.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Someone that's different, someone to nominate.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, for the Order of Canada five or six years ago,
and I didn't know what was happening, and the Order
of Canada was like no, and then you can't apply
for six years, I think because they don't want maps
applying every year. And I was like, well, I wouldn't have, Like.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
I didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
I wouldn't have applied for that.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
They're like, hey, by the way, you can't do this.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, it's like, well, I wouldn't have. I wouldn't have
thought anyway. But also like someone going out of their
way to say, by the way, you're not Order of
Canada material, It's like, well, I didn't think I was
in the first place. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
I mean I think that Junio Hall of Fame is
like that where they pick you kind of thing where
you're weigh it and it's a committee thing. It's not
like you can ask. Yeah, so that's more like that,
like the Order of Canada is very strict and like
they someone nominates you and then they interview like tons

(11:11):
of people around you to see if you're legit, right,
like old teachers. Did you show up every day? Like
who knows the list? Right? Yeah, you have to have
good standing and everything. I know.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
It's it's like the conversation where people are like, you
look familiar. I don't know where do you work? I
work on TV? Anything I would have seen probably not
name something, yeah, never ending, never ending, and it's.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Like eventually you're gonna lose like this my.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Entire resume, is it, mister Deed? No, I don't know.
Maybe trailer park boys. No, it wouldn't be that. I
don't like swearing, so I don't watch that. They're like, no, oh,
you look like my cousin's friend. That's what it is.
It is, Yeah, like going so far out of your
way to insult you when you didn't ask for it. Yeah, anyway,

(12:11):
how was the reign of it? All?

Speaker 1 (12:14):
I said said hello, yeah, and it was that was
about it. Yeah, great to catch up with Steve and
kots Yep. I don't really know Jason, yeah, the drummer.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Did you say hi to him?

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, he's the tattoo like a tattoo gentleman.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, he's the new guy. Yeah, but it's suddenly not new,
like yeah ten years old new guy.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah. Crazy. So was Chantelle there?

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Did you say hi to her?

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yes? So I said, you know, said hello, Yeah, it
was It's not weirdsy I forgot He's he was getting
thrown out. It was pretty awesome. So Tom cochrane brought him.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
On and George Strombo brought you guys.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Strombo, Yeah, I got. I mean I'm terrible at recollecting
and talking about events, like I am the worst because
I don't. I get nervous of forgetting somebody's names, so
then I forget everybody's name right. So that's how I
roll when it comes to recounting events, as you know,

(13:28):
like everything I do, I'll talk about it afterwards, and
I'll just kind of skirt over everything because I'm afraid
of getting a name wrong or forgetting, which is your
strength where you like no everybody and everything right, that's
why that's why I skirt, but it's I did catch

(13:49):
up with weirds. He was great to kind of see
him and to be in the class with him is
awesome because he started in nineteen ninety three too and
way yeah and teaching him and stuff. So there's like
he calls me his his golfer, his drum coach, which
is pretty classic.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Oh right, I forgot he saying drum lessons. Yeah, how
is Strombo?

Speaker 1 (14:16):
And Strombo is awesome. He was really nice enough to
mention me off the top of bringing in the induction speech.
He he mentioned that he that I used to practice
at Rumblefish Studios where he used to take tickets at
the at the the Woodbine mall there at the theater,

(14:37):
he took tickets there and he would also come to
the rehearsal space of his friends Stu, who was across
the hall from me, And so I used to see
George when he was a teenager too. But he remembers
me just like practicing all the time, and he mentioned
it in his speech. Is pretty cool. Na. Yeah, And
he did a great job as usual, and it was

(14:59):
actually makes sense to have him bring us in because
he's was so integral to all of the stuff that
we did. I mean, he really was involved with everything
we did, with much music. It was kind of like
a precedent that he had to do it whenever we
did interviews, oh events, Yeah, just because he was such

(15:19):
a great interviewer, but also just he was always, yeah,
had his research always no matter who he's talking to,
he knows so much about them and that that we
respected that so and obviously being a close friend of
mine for forever, so it was nice to have him

(15:41):
involved for sure.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
So then afterwards, was there some high fiving and crew detays?

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Not really well, I mean me and Lisa like hung
out a bit and then went home, but there was
no like what I'm sure that the band did. But
you know, you kind of bound. I wasn't gonna yeah,
I wasn't gonna go there. That's yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
That's always my favorite part of any outing is the
way there, like getting ready on the way there with
Carol and then leaving with Carol.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, for sure, I mean, like I said, it was
it would have been nice to to have my kids, yeah,
you know, seventy five hundred bucks. No, you might as
well have them go to university it's like it's like
summer vacation or hanging out. So I was like, yeah,
maybe it'll be on TV. No, it's not gonna be.
As soon as I saw it was an hour, I
was like, no, it's not gonna be on TV.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Did you see yourself on TV?

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah? There was a couple of shots, Yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Well congratulations, So what what do you get? Do you
get a.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Like I get like an award to do like a big,
big silver maple leaf. Yeah, that's quite heavy. It'd be
great for break ins. And did they take somebody.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Out unveil the star on the walk?

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Not yet, that's like next year.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
I think that'll be like a good life fitness thing,
you know, like whatever, what do you buy?

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Why does that take super so long? Do you go
to that too?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Don't? I don't know, don't. It's another event, the unveiling.
I'm by my drums here, so the unveiling.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
So Mike Weir and and Samantha Nutt and the heart
surgeon guy and you guys who else?

Speaker 1 (17:36):
I don't have the thing on me, but like you,
it's your strength. A lot of great people, just a
lot of great great people. Jonathan, tell you what I'm
going to tell.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
You, uh something awesome. And on Canada Day, our buddy
Mike Stevens got the Order of Canada.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Ooh nice, there you go.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
And Heather Rankin of the Rank the Order of Canada.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Wonderful, fantastic Leona Boyd, Yeah, that's right, she was there.
That was awesome to see. Yeah. Did she play talented? No,
but there were some great guitarists that did play. And
she spoke really, you know, beautiful. Every speech was fantastic
and from the heart.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
So also Tanya Lee Williams.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, it's a great actors.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Actor.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah, yeah, actor, fantastic actor I remember from the soaps? Yes?
Is it All My Children? Is that what she was on?

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I don't know, yeah, but good for Tanya and I'm
I'm curious to see if this is something you apply for,
Like apparently Hollywood Walk of Fame you apply and.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Pay for That's what I said. Yeah, yeah, like Arnold
Schwarzenegger or whatever you pay for that. Yeah, I don't
know what demand's theater. Is that something you get selected
for maybe? Yeah? The hands in this in the cement,
I don't know. Somebody's getting paid.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Well, it doesn't diminish the tremendous deserved accomplishment and that's
some pretty hoity toydy company.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah. John Candy's on there, so that's good enough for me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
OK, that's awesome. What an incredible achievement.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Jared, Yeah, thank you brother.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
So was it kind of emotional or surreal or all
of the above.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, it was. It was nice. I mean it's something
that I'm not used to. Billy Corgan did a nice
narration thing.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Too for the OLP video.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, well there was like to before we went before George.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Basically what's the history with that?

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Mak Well, he Smashing Pumpkins did some fast It was
like they were on the Summrsault festival and we knew him,
we knew Billy and he was just nice enough to
do it. It was a nice tribute. Wow, crazy Billy
Corgan man, like if he's one of those guys now

(20:18):
or it's like he just like he's the Gene Simmons
of our generation where he's like invented everything that happened
in the nineties.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Really do you see him that way?

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Oh? If you hear him talk and it's like, yeah,
that was that was me. I did that and anyway
I did this too, and if you don't remember, everything
was done because of this and I did that like
one of those guys.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Oh wait, so you feel like that's not actually how
it went down.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Well, it's whatever. It's always some crazy story leading back
to like you know, him doing something ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
But do they check out?

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Not always, not at all. No, Like, for example, like
a personal one, he was like on Howard Stern and
he said like olp uh when we were playing with
them that we were we wanted to go on last,
and he we had a big fight about it and
he demanded that he go on last. And it's like

(21:18):
that never happened once, like we always wanted them to
headline like it. Then we had no issue at all
with having Smashing Pumpkins last. Like he just made that
all up, like some argument that happened. Yeah, yeah, like
totally made up. So you hear him saying stuff all

(21:40):
the time about some bullshit. It's pretty funny about him.
He's kind of like the Randy Bachman.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Well yeah, he Bachmann the past.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Well, because remember we heard I famously heard that Randy
Bachman said that Jimmy Page asked him to be in Leeds.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, yeah, that's so funny.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Come on, man, it's like you already got all this
awesome stuff that happened.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Then you're like, why you don't have to embellish. It's
like the thing that you did was really really cool.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Come on, man, American woman's great. You don't need to
like anyway. I was working on this riff the next thing,
you know, a whole lot of love in the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
It was actually with his acoustic.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
AH and Jimmy was taking the piss.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Is that true to the Vital Vulture or whatever it
was called. Is that still on?

Speaker 1 (22:53):
I don't. I don't think so. I love that.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
He's like, yeah, man, I remember we Louis. We were
like the low key wheedlers happening under him talking. Went
into a diner in albacaz.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
In, La and I just started doing my tapping thing
and there was this little kid van Halen.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, been there, done what doing my tapping thing? You
guys know my tapping thing that I do sometimes. Anyway,
I was just doing that. How's your summer going by?

Speaker 1 (23:33):
It's going great. It's beautiful. A lot of nice h
rip of weather we're getting here. Saw some nice fireworks yesterday.
Canada day kind of felt like, I don't know, felt like,
honestly felt like the first time being in a park
full of people like since COVID I think whoa. Honestly,

(23:56):
like just now it felt like that.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Were you a little freaked out?

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Well just no, I just felt like things were kind
of just back to normal for me, you know what
I mean? Like, now, so what was.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
This scene in the park, Like who was playing.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Cover band? Yeah, you know, just crushing the Bruno Mars, right,
you know, like what's that one?

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Just watch? Oh yeah, yeah, don't believe me, just watch. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, And so they crushed it. And then as soon
as they finished, the mayor came up and uh did
the countdown of the fireworks and it was a crazy
fireworks Like I don't That's the other thing, like I
didn't the technology with fireworks is picked up. Yeah yeah,
you know, like now you got like the ones that
go higher than before and they could blow up bigger,

(25:02):
but then they got the ones that go bananas. Was
when they fizzle out. Yeah, this, so they got all
this like trippy, extra psychedelic fireworks going on. But it
was like half an hour straight to the point where
I was like, okay, like I was. I would have
been cool, like five ten minutes ago. Yeah, the mayor,

(25:23):
the mayor of what new market?

Speaker 2 (25:25):
New market? Okay, yeah, and what comforting words did the
mayor offer?

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Nothing, just like a countdown, just right to the chase.
Smart didn't knew that there was no time for bullshit.
Let's just get to the to what people want. Yeah,
and yeah, by the way, when I did this my speech,
I wore my rock the Cock ninety nine point four.
Sure well, nod to the bods for good, good measure. Yeah,
I forgot that. I was just looking and I saw

(25:54):
that I.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Have that amazing Only the og bods would would remember
that reference. Yeah, yes, but yeah, so it was a
great vamp under the fireworks or under.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
The no no, no, they like they did their ninety
minutes or whatever before it, and they pieced, they pieced.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah, they were loading in the van. And do you
think they had another gig last night, like they're going
to race the.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
No that I imagine. No, that's a big one because
it was a good crowd. They had their own stage. Yeah,
that was probably like the the sweetest plumb of the summer.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Did they have in ears? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you see a lot of in ears
these days, I know, like you see in ears in
bars now. Yeah, Like it's just because people are like,
oh wait, I can actually hear myself and all I
need is like an app.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, and there's a sound guy with an iPad who's
the buddy of the band walking around the back.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Or there's no sound guy, and it's just like there's
one little pa, right, So you're just creating your own
mix whatever gear you have with you.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
What are the kids doing for the summer? Is anyone working?

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Jack's working? Yeah, he's working at a golf course. What's
he doing in the in the kitchen cooking meat, making
chicken fingers, making chicken fingers and everything. And then John
is he's just chilling, man, It's just chilling. Like they

(27:28):
literally just got off school last week, right, Yeah, it's
went late. It's it's on. Like everybody is fired up
and staying up and we're playing Mario Party and we're
watching movies and getting right into it. Fine.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
We went to Halifax yesterday because Sugar was in a
hip hop showcase on the Halifax waterfront. It's kind of
the perfect Canada day. Both of the girls had a
friend with them, we went to Halifax or in this
hip hop showcase and we came home, got some a
and w had a swim in the pool, went to

(28:05):
the lake for a boat ride up with the tube,
and then on Carol's folks pontoon boat to watch fireworks.
It was like core memory summer Canada day day.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, and you're just getting started.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
I know, hard to believe it was just July first
yesterday because it felt like peak summer. Yeah, you're and
you're you're concentrating on a hang this summer right, like
you're gonna be around chilling, Yeah, all summer. Yeah, that's it.
I worked really hard to spring and my fall is
pretty booked. But I've been trying to as outrageous as

(28:42):
it sounds, orchestrate time off, which is really hard and
it doesn't come easy in my business. But it's you know,
only have a couple of summers left with everybody home.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
I know that's true.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
So the other thing I've been doing is my friend
Molly that I work with in the States, sometimes.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Turned me on to.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
AI paint by numbers. So you take a picture that
you have taken, you send it away and it will
send you the canvas broken down into paint by numbers,
all the paint with numbers that correspond and brushes. So
I've been painting a painting of Carol and Lily, and obviously,

(29:30):
like anything you can do the entry level, you just
do the primary colors, or you can do the Here
are one hundred and seventy different shades that you need
for this thing. So I started kind of moderate. It
is so satisfying and grounding and soothing, and if you
have a lot in your brain, it just forces you

(29:50):
to focus right in on this task that you're trying
to accomplish. I'm really enjoying it. So anyone out there
is like, I have a busy mind. I don't know
what to do you when I get home from work,
or I live alone, or I'm kind of restless. Man,
I can't suggest this high enough. There are obviously lots
of websites that.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Do this.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Paint by Canvas seems to be the one that I've
landed on. But this is the summer for me of projects.
I want to have little satisfying projects that I chip
away at. Another one's a family wall. I've printed a
bunch of pictures of you know, places we've been and
things We've done both local and farther from home, and

(30:32):
I'm going to make a family wall this summer because
I think we had imagined that staining the house and
barn would take the whole summer. We had lots of
pep talks with each other where we're like, let's just
chip away at it, let's not put pressure ourselves, and
then we crushed it and was done before July first.
So now I feel like I got all this time.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Back and now you're like, let's do something else. Yeah, girl,
you know, build a fence another one.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
No, my defence that AD made a few years ago
from ki is still upright. So I have a goal
with my horse. I want to ride amos off our
property this summer. That's the goal. Because they're skittish masks.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Oh yeah, the little hop and skips, and they cass
your nervousness.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
And they can smell stuff, like there's a mama bear
with two cubs in our neighborhood and she's you know,
that freaks them out digging in our compost. So because
the horses don't like bears and they can smell them
before you see them, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, jeez man, summertime. I'm heading to uh white Horse.
What I'm flying into white Horse I think, and then
playing Atland BC a festival there with limb Lifter. No
way next week, next weekend. So I'm flying into white

(31:58):
Horse a couple of days early to just kind of chill.
So that'll be nice. So never been up.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
There, crazy, it's it's a beautiful city.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Yeah, I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
White Horse is on a list of five cities. If
someone was like you, you're being transferred there for a year,
no problem. The people, the people are awesome. It's a
little wild and the nature is incredible, but it has
all of the infrastructure and uh, they love the arts there.

(32:36):
It's uh, it's like a city and a town.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, so they'll be uh, I'll probably there's some nice
hikes up there. I'll do there. There are some ripping
over some bridges and whatnot. Yeah, so my eyes open
for some wildlife and away from the grizzels.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
So you're you're flying into white Horse to drive to Atlin. Yeah,
this is how that works.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Wow, exactly.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
I wonder if Atlin is in the same direction. I
drove white Horse to Skagway, Alaska. Oh right, that was Alaska.
This is BC.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
You're going to.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, two hour drive, that's it.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, yeah, crazy. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Because there's a little desert outside a white Horse in
a place called car Cross, and looking at the map,
you won't go through it, but you do go kind
of near it. I wonder what Altrosnacy is all about.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah, well it's a beautiful lake.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
So how many maps are going to this festival?

Speaker 1 (33:39):
I have no idea. I'm sure it's a festival, so
people have probably kind of come around. That's so fun.
Yeah in two shows.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
We probably talked about this on the Lost episode, but
you've been doing some shows with Limb Lefter, Yeah, and
it was really fun.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
We have this one. We played the Sound of Music
in Burlington a few weeks ago, and we're playing in
Saskatchewan a festival in southern Saskatchewan on the twenty sixth.
So yeah, it's gonna be a fun summer.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
And you played in Vancouver, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
At the Commodore.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
How was that?

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Odds? Fantastic except the fact that I got food poisoning afterwards,
so it was kind of an unfortunate evening. But the
show was fantastic and great and great to catch up
with some bods.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Were you having to play through the sickness or the sickness?

Speaker 1 (34:35):
No, it didn't start and like right until I like
played Tambourine on listening Party, which is a song that
lim Lefter and the Odds wrote together, and I literally
was like, just as I finished Gump, coming off stage
from that, I started feeling weird.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Beads up sweat on the forehead.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Oh yeah, and then like the darting to the bathroom
really like fifteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
No, I'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah. Yeah. Laredo was with me, so he kind of
had to nurse me back to the hotel. And I
was like it was one of those like, uh, lying
in the show under the shower for like an hour,
one of those vibes. Yeah, because of like the water
hitting my head was like at least keeping me away

(35:27):
from the stomach nauseous. Yeah, and like there was nothing
left to throw up, and so you're just like bile.
Oh horrible. That's a terrible feeling.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
But no, the show was especially away from home.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, I'm really enjoying Ryan and Megan and Joe and
it's a it's a fun group of peeps.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
So how are the Odds Buds great Craig.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
And the Bods. Yeah, and Kurt who used to play
with obviously with Ryan's brother. Kurt plays with drums with
the Odds. Now. It was good to see him.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I know Craig is in the Odds. What is Steven?

Speaker 1 (36:10):
No, not anymore, he's not, but he was, yes, So
what does Steven do now? I don't know. I'm sure
he's still a producer, performer. Yeah, yeah, I mean those
guys are were all such incredible musicians, you know, they're
just life long artists.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
And Craig has the Trans Canada Highwaymen. Yes, Yeah, they've
been doing shows a lot too. I just saw Chris
Murphy a couple months ago where he says that's fun
at a charity show. He's uh, he said, that's been
a gas. They had Trans Canada shows with Mo Burgh
and Stephen Page. But they they it's one of those things.

(36:52):
They keep doing it and then they keep getting asked
to do more, which makes perfect sense.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Well, and also like imagine playing the greatest hits of
all four of those combos.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
It's fun, it's fun.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Gas. I guess should we take a break.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, let's take a break.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
But you're right back.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
We're back.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
So I've been working on a TV show for the
last I guess several months, well probably last part of
a year. It's called Pretty Blind, and it's going to
be on Accessible Media and it starts on July eighth.
It's going to be on TV. Most of the shows
have been working on lately have been on the streaming services,

(37:39):
mostly Bell five. So to have a show that's going
to be on TV, it'll also be on AMI dot
ca A. But it has been such a learning curve
to use a visual medium for a low vision audience.
The show is about a woman named Jenny Bovard who
has a podcast called Low Vision Moments. Jenny has albinism,

(38:01):
and so the way she would kind of put it
is that her eyeballs weren't quite cooked long enough, so
they're highly sensitive. So things you don't think about, like
she has to apply sunscreen four or five times a day,
even in the winter. So you think, well, okay, so

(38:21):
why wouldn't you go out at night more she does,
and it is more comfortable, except when a car comes
around the corner and its headlights are shining straight in
her eyes like it's I've been doing a lot of
work with people that we haven't seen on TV enough,
wheelchair users, for example, And there's kind of a common theme,

(38:42):
which is people are well intended, but just a little
misinformed and misguided in how they want to help. So,
for example, one of the stories in Jenny's life is
she needs a handbasket at a grocery store and the
grocery stores got rid of them. They would tell you
it's because they're unsanitary during COVID, and they never really

(39:03):
brought them back and people were stealing them. Cynical people
might say they got rid of them because they want
to encourage you to fill a cart. But for someone
who moves through the world with low vision, a cart
isn't really a great option. So the show is called
pretty Blind for a couple of reasons. One is because

(39:24):
people seem very interested in tripping her up on how
blind she is, like, wait, so, how blind are you?
And her answer is pretty blind. She sees five to
ten percent of what fully developed eyes would see. But
if she's in a space where she is familiar, like

(39:46):
her living room or her sidewalk in front of her house,
then she has different shorthand and shortcuts that she can
use in environments she's familiar. She's a marathon runner, and
she rides a bike in places she knows. But sometimes
she'll use a white cane and sometimes she won't. And

(40:08):
I guess it's in the way that sometimes we would
wear glasses if our eyes are tired, or sometimes we'd
wear a ball cap if our hair wasn't washed. But
people are like, wait a sec, you weren't using a
cane yesterday. Like just the idea that people think she's
up to something or trying to get away with something
is so Stevie.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
See people say that about Stevie Wonder all the time. Yeah,
hear these stories. Oh you know he can see right?

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Do you see when he looks sideways at Jay Z
at the American Music Awards, Like yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
When it's like, I don't know why people say that,
when it's like some levels of blindness or vision loss
is shadows and light and shades and so yeah, people
are pretty silly to think certain things.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Well, so this is like, this is the interesting thing.
It sounds so obvious to say it now. But there's
a stand up comic named Dan beara Berger. He also
has low vision. Jenny uses the word blind liberally. So
Dan was in the writer's room on the show and
plays one of the characters on the show, really lovely
and really funny guy. And they have different types of

(41:14):
low vision. Dan needs uh, lots of light, Jenny needs
low light. So uh. It was a really invigorating challenge
for a couple of reasons. One is to execute a
TV show where there are lots of things you could
trip over and lots of uh, you know, self important urgency,

(41:36):
and then suddenly you're making a show with someone who
just needs a minute or needs five minutes in a
new environment to kind of familiarize familiarize themselves with the
the surroundings, things like sandbags and light stands and coolers
with drinks, like all the all the trip hazards. So
it was really an awesome thing to witness our crew

(42:02):
rise to the unique requirements of making a show like this.
Everyone took it really seriously and was You know, when
you approach someone who can't see you start by saying, hey,
it's Jonathan. It's just gonna ask if you could do this.
Awesome thing about Jenny and Dan is that they're very
familiar with because they have to do it dozens of

(42:23):
times a day, helping you navigate their unique needs. So
Jenna will be like, can you not stand in front
of the window because the daylight's really harsh? Like can
you just stand over there? Which is awesome. But then
from a storytelling standpoint.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
The.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Thing that blew my mind is that all the usual
tricks of the trade, like loud shirts or pratfalls or
raised eyebrows, or like the Seinfeld wide shot of the
apartment at night so you know, oh, they're back at
Jerry's apartment, that doesn't really work for a low vision audience.
So a character having their own theme song that you

(43:03):
hear every time, or a sound unique to the new environment,
like a grocery store George to can goods, Please, George
to can goods. So the soundscape is something I've never
really given so much thought to, because I was watching
the episodes with my eyes closed to try to figure
out can I still without seeing understand what's happening. So

(43:27):
to approach storytelling in that way was so exciting and fun.
I came up with the idea that each of the
main characters would have their own primary color palette, so
when Jenny sees them, or the audience does you're like, oh,
that's a mustard yellow. That must be the boss at
the library. So every little trick in the book you

(43:52):
can use to give an audible cue that something different
is happening, while at the same time trying to keep
the pace going at a comedic enough clip that the
IDV math doesn't have to jump in and say, Veronica
picks up a lunch bag and walks to the door,

(44:13):
because that's a comedy killer, as you can imagine.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Totally. Yeah, the secondary audio programming, Yeah, but yeah, it's
always just so like monotone.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Yeah, yeah, no, there's no stank on. It's like an
AI voiceover. But the interesting thing was, at at this
stage of my career to be given an opportunity to
learn so many new tricks of the trade that would

(44:48):
like serve a low vision audience but also be hopefully
undetectable to a cited audience. So things like people say
each other's names more Hey, Gary, Hey Dennis, how are you?
I'm good, how are you? Oh, here comes Trina, so
that the audience can also follow along. So trying to

(45:09):
figure out how to pepper in just enough of that
that it's clear, but not so much of it. That
it's like, have you seen that show where everybody uses
each other's names all the time?

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yeah, Yeah, it was interesting, like subtle watching it with
my eyes closed. Some of the things that I assume
people would be able to track, they probably can't, But
I bet this audience tracks a lot more with a
lot less clues than you might think. Jenny is She's

(45:39):
never acted before, but she was an incredible actor, and
I think part of the reason is because she's a
great listener. She has to be, so when you give
feedback or direction, she's like, oh, yeah, that makes sense
and then can incorporate it instantly, And most actors I
work with can't do that.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
And I guess retaining lines and all that stuff is
like a natural at that ability, because I think is
that connection stronger? Yeah, Now, like some people, if one
part of their senses is weaker, the others one will
pick it up. Yeah, it's auditory or realization or just

(46:19):
awareness and other regard. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
I feel like I still don't completely understand why she
was so awesome at it. I can assume like, first
of all, she has a great work ethic that has
nothing to do with her vision or lack thereof she
works really hard. She wanted to. You know, when someone's

(46:42):
handed an opportunity and you're like, man, they kind of
blew it or didn't really rise to the challenge. She
squows every drop of juice out of this lement of opportunity,
really went for it. And so you're you're always, as
you know, so happy to put your energy behind someone
who's like going for it and really deserves it. So

(47:05):
she's someone that you really like and root for just
as a human, but also because she went for it,
that was especially awesome. But yeah, I imagine learning lines
must be a bit of a challenge. Dan you know,
holds his phone an inch from one eye to look
at the lines and the scene coming up. That must

(47:27):
add a degree of difficulty. But one thing that Dan
said when he was he came out to Halifax, he
has a wife and baby back in Ontario and that's
a big deal, and staying in a different place is
a big deal. And working with a new group of people.
He said, when he was leaving, you guys all made
me feel so safe. And that word was so impactful

(47:53):
because imagine how vulnerable you would feel flying to winn
a peg and going into this whole new experience in
a whole new place with nothing familiar around and you
can't see. Yeah, so that that word was not lost
on me. Creating safety for people that move about the

(48:17):
world that way is.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
An honor and it was.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Really really cool. I'm really proud of the show. We
set out to make a good ami show, but I
think it's a really good show.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Well, good luck with the season.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
That's awesome. Mark Forward and I wrote it together, has
some great jokes. We both make an appearance in the show.
The acting is really strong. We shot it at the
Truro Library, which is just a beautiful building. And I'm
so lucky to get to do what I love in
the town twelve minutes from my house.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
That's the best. It's the best, is the best. Hey,
are you going to pe one at all anytime soon?

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Well, because we're running an airbnb as a part time
job for me, we always wrestle with this, like if
the cottage is empty, we're taking money off the table
by staying in it. Because it also occurred to me
just recently, having a seasonal airbnb is really dumb, because

(49:19):
if you're gonna have an airbnb, you should have one
you can rent three hundred and sixty five nights a year.
So this season is so short that I feel kind
of guilty using our own cottage, as dumb as that sounds,
but I understand, yea we have. I think there are
two windows of three nights each that it is available
to us, so of course of the summer, and there's

(49:40):
no better place in the summertime, man, as you know.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Yeah, that's why I said, because it's always a good one.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Small.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
I know, like a lot more and more people friends
of mine have been doing that vacation thing there obviously.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Well do you think the States I was going to ask,
do you think it's people are not like in you're realm?
Have you talked to a lot of people who are like,
forget that, I'm not going down there?

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Absolutely nobody is. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I mean I
don't know anyone with exception the people that have properties
down there and are going there. Yeah. So yeah, I
mean people are changing plans and like people are not
only not just the whole elbows up thing more honestly,

(50:29):
there's a fear of what not just what you know,
what what the vibe is down there, but just at
the border, are you going to get to deal with
any bs or you know, you just I think it's
more to show solidarity with what the hell's going on
and standing up for what we want to be and

(50:51):
just not not relenting to the madness down there.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Yeah, we went unfortunate because I mean, I'm sure everybody
loves it, and there's so many reasons to go down
and have amazing times in America, but it's just not
cool right now.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
We went to England and France in June. Carrol's folks
rented a narrow boat sixty nine feet long and six
feet wide and ten of us stayed on it perfew nights.
So since they did that, we decided to go. And

(51:33):
my dad was from Cornwall, the southwest of part of England.
I spent a couple of summers in Devon, neighboring county
when I was a kid, but he was from Cornwall.
This place called Penzance. You might have heard the Pirates
of Penzance, yeah, by Gilbert and Sullivan. So never been before,
and part of the reason is because every time we're

(51:55):
over there, we're like, man, it's a five hour train
ride from London to Cornwall, five five and a half.
It's just so far, and it's not easy once you're
there to like well and then from there we can
just hop over to somewhere else. You have to go
back to London to kind of reset. So like, do
we want to spend two days of our vacation getting

(52:15):
there and getting back? So Carol was like, you know what,
we always say we'll do it next time. This is
the time to go, which I really appreciate it. So
we went to Cornwall, stayed in Penzance, took a day
trip to Saint Ives. I went to this town called Mousel,

(52:41):
which is cute little fishing village. And I'm a pretty
sentimental person. I don't know if I thought I would
see my face in strangers passing me on the sidewalk,
or if i'd have some like I feel an instant
heart connection, like I'm home and why if I waited
so long to come here? None of that?

Speaker 1 (53:01):
No, wo, how could you? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
He also left home when he was thirteen, and then
he goes like, wait, so he spent more of his
life on Prince Edward Island. Why didn't we just go there?
I'm like, well, yes, that's a fair point.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Still, I had the same thing with my dad in Glasgow.
Did you get around there? Oh yeah, like all the
old places. I'm like, yeah, this is cool and all,
but I definitely feel like that guy's looking at me
like he's not that's not not vibes.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
You didn't feel any like this is these are my people.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Oh and anytime I talked to somebody in mary Hill
of Glasgow about my dad, they were they could give
a shit about it, right, you know, and they're like, no,
you're not, You're not from here. To get out of here.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Well, I searched Pen's ants and Torrens, and this woman's
Facebook profile came up. I forget her.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
First name, and I was like, all, like you family.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
I mean she she uh, you know, was sort of fair.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Imagine she looked like Allen and you're like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
But I also think it because I do this sometimes,
like when I'm in Pi, I think, should I knock
on the door of my childhood home and like, I'm sorry,
I know this is weird. Would you mind if I
looked around? Yeah, it's also weird to barge into someone's
life and say like, hey, I'm I'm going through this
thing like it's It's.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Not like I saw that one. I think there's a
video of like Jennifer Lopez and she's like, this is
where I grew up. And the guy's like, I don't
get Yeah, why would you want? What do you want?
Get lost?

Speaker 3 (54:42):
It's our naive to assume, Peter your enthusiasm, You're not
coming in this house. So like just to walk up
randomly to someone's house and say, can I come in
and check it out?

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Like no, not at all, no chance? Get lost?

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Like, excuse me? Are you Judy Torrens?

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (55:04):
I recognize your picture from Facebook? Can I have a huger?

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Can I.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
My dad left here seventy years ago? I'm wondering if
we were related in some way? Not at all, but
it was it was neat to see where he came from.
It was wild to imagine him leaving home at thirteen
and joining the Merchant Navy. It's a beautiful part.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
Literally as soon as he could, He's like, I'm out.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Yeah, Like that's a pretty early piece at thirteen.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Well, I don't even know if he ever came back,
Like it is it feels like I have a tough.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Town, yeah for sure. So like was he like when
did he peace by himself that like he was buying,
he was with his parents. He was with his parents,
wasn't he no?

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Thirteen when the navy?

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Like what how does that happen?

Speaker 2 (56:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
He was out of there, like man, So.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
I don't even think I can assume like he romanticized
the place or couldn't wait to get back. He obviously
didn't choose to end up back there.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Well, I mean, given the when you know, passing young
like he was like maybe had this this vibe of
like I got to start now, I gotta get this
going right here right. I don't know how long I'm
going to be here. I feel like thirteen's plenty to
get out of the house.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
So the girls kept kind of checking in with me,
like are you okay, Dad, because they know I'm kind
of soft.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
He can't.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
But the real kick was my sister and I lived
in this village called Lustily with his sister. It's in Devon,
near Bubby Tracy. So we took the train to Exeter
in Devon and rented a car and I drove on
the wrong side and I've never done that before, but
it allowed us to go back to Lustie, to the

(57:05):
Lusty tea room where we would eat on occasion when
I was like, I don't know, eight nine, So do
you remember that big time?

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Okay, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah, so it's nice. It's like the prettiest village in Devon.
It's called so to take my girls to the lusty
tea room. That was more of a ring in the
heartbell than the town of Penzance, by the way, great town,
nice people. I sat at a pub and had a
pint just to see what that was like. Uh, it

(57:39):
was fine, it was fine, but there was no like.
But by the way, I wasn't. I wasn't on a class.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
One of those guys with the tomato nose slicks over
and they're like, yeah, I'm not feeling this either, Like, no.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Thanks, I don't want to check well anyone with gray hair.
I was like, I don't know, could is that what
you would look like? I don't know, but yeah yeah.
Some guy like yeah, I'm good. Yeah. I would say.
The people there love the sea. Uh. I don't think

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it's an easy life there. It's a port town. But
I didn't like. The dam never broke, even if subconsciously
there was some quest I was on that I didn't
even really know about. The dam didn't break, but I
had a lovely time and it was neat to go
there with the girls. Then we went to Paris for

(58:43):
a couple of nights. Awesome, especially at the stage when
they can bomb around with us to carry their own
suitcases and stuff. That's a great tier. So on the
way to the train station, we uh an uber and
the guy rolled up and saw that we had three
suitcases and he kept going. He like kind of shook

(59:05):
this thing out, like no, you're on your own peace.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
So we start gave him no stars.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
We went down to the corner where it was a
busy intersection. We thought we'd hail a cab. We didn't
really have luck doing that. This guy wheels around the
corner and says, you guys moved. We're like what he said,
I'm here for the uber. You guys were supposed to
be in front of whatever. And we're like, well, Another
guy came by and like he he must have denied
us and didn't know they were going to send another car.

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So we get in the uber and we're going to
the train station. By this point, it's like twenty to eleven.
The trains at eleven oh six. It's an international training
because we're going back to England, we have to clear
security and all this. So he starts side by siding
beacon off with the guy in the car beside us,
and get to an intersection. He slams on the brakes,

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says I'll be right back, opens the door and goes
over and kicks the car beside him a few times.
So this was a black gentleman. He got back in
the car and said, do you know what he called me?
I was like, no, I didn't catch it. It all happened

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in French, although I was surprised to how much my
French held up. Anyway, the gentleman in the car across
from him called him a racist slur. Yeah, so he said,
I've never gotten out of my car before, Please forgive me.
But then he had two meltdowns with other people on
the drive to the train station before telling us to

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get the hell out and walk the rest of the
way because traffic was too bad.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
He's serious.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Yeah, So here's the question in that situation, do you
leave a nasty review or do you contact uber? When
this person is maybe a little unhinged and you know,
it was kind of scary with gusts up to traumatic

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or do you think this person is obviously easily provoked.
I don't want him to know my contact information. And
it was just messy enough because if if the racist
slur did indeed occur, I am not in a position
to say he overreacted, you know. Yeah, it was just

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really like, oh, we had a great two days and
then it ended on that banana's thirty minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Yeah, no kidding. Yeah, I don't know what I would
do because, yeah, you don't want like to cause any
problems or have an issue. Yeah, I know, So that's
that's terrible. It was.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
It was kind of kind of terrifying, and all of
it was unfortunate. Yeah, but you know, every time we travel,
and I'm sure you feel the same way. You realize
it's easier to stay home.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
But great, hang, you're creating memories. You can't just you
got to do new stuff, right, You can't do the
same thing all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
We're forcing memories.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Yeah, it's a risk you take for the better good
of the whole situation.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Yes, And I also think where we live is generally
fairly sleepy and quiet. It's good for everybody to see
that there are different things you can do with your
life in different places you can live and you know,
unpredictable things happen and how you handle them.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah, Well, good trip. That was good.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
That was a good trip.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
It's not easy doing that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
The narrow boat was wild because your boat is about
six feet wide and the ones passing you down these
canals are also six feet wide, and it's probably fourteen
feet wide in some places, so you're inching past other masks.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Well, I have heard if you're going to do a cruise,
do those canal cruises in Europe? That's the move?

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Yeah, like the riverboat cruises.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Yeah, because like it's not crazy. You're never far away
and there's like you're constantly on land, which is the move.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
See how the Rankin does them and Natalie McMaster does them.
How do we do a TNT European riverboat cruise?

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
I know, I was talking to Mike from Blue Rodeo
they did a killer one too recently and that that
that's yeah, because you're in five class, five star, you know,
world class hotel on this and you have a beautiful
suite on the boat, and then you're going to like
all these incredible restaurants and places all the time. Like

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the history is just you know, way better than just
like bumping into West Palm Beach and then going up
to North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Like a riverboat down the Rhine. Yeah with buds.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Get me in there, let's go on the rhine.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
How do we do that?

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
I don't know. Maybe we should change it up and
start doing some European motif bits.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
I think we'd have to get a few. Like it's
us and Adam Baldwin and he plays songs and we
do shows every night, and it's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
That work our way into the canadianity music slash entertainment
the evening.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Might need to stack the deck a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Yes, maybe bring the big boy Alan Doyle to take
it up a notch. Well he does them, Yeah, maybe
he can fit us into the show.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Also, just to bring a full circle, my friend Jacob
Hemphil who plays one of the main characters in Pretty Blind,
is doing Alan's show Telltale Harbor this summer. Oh nice,
and it to Mervish in Toronto in September.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Too fantastic. So this isber Is this the second year
of this?

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Yeah, they did it like four years ago and they
it sounds like kind of retooled it a bit and
uh it's it's.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Back coming to Toronto. Yeah nice, there you go. I
have to have to bring the fam out. Yeah, good time,
good by. It looks like looks like we've wrapped her
up for this week.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Here, it looks like we have long overdue. Let's get
back on the weekly train.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Yes, absolutely see. Both of us are hands in the
pinky swear that we're going to try and get back
on the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Tips good Chatting, Jeremy

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Good Chatting Boto