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November 26, 2025 38 mins

Jay Lawrence, no relation, is joined by NFL Record Holder Cam Little who continued his heroics in Arizona last weekend as the Jags won again! Reece Parkinson was there and fights of the jet lag to tell us about the game day experience of being an 'away' fan at the NFL and the Jaguars victory, while Jason Bell breaks down the fun in Phoenix and previews this weekends trip to Tennessee.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's twenty eight degrees in Jacksonville. It's seven in bar
five in a hull. This is tel Talk, the official Jacksonville, Jancuars,
UK and Ireland podcast, presented by Gallagher Oh. Coming up
on the show, Jason Bell as per celebrating Thanksgiving actually
in Dallas's Jason Bell look at him, and Jaguars kicker
record well NFL record holder Cam Little is joining us

(00:28):
from Jacksonville in what is a packed episode of tell Talk.
I'm Jay Lawrence, no relation. He is Reese Parkinson. Yes,
special guest status for Reese fighting off the jet lag
to join us, fresh back from Phoenix to see the
Jags winner over the Arizona Cardinals. Reese, Welcome to till Talk.
How's it going?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Feeling, I mean, come on, like you just come back
from a Jags win.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
So I'm honestly like well shattered because I went to
bed last night at seven pm and woke up at
seven I think that's the most I've ever slept in
one continuous sleep cycle. But ah, Jay, it was. It
was awesome, Like it was genuinely really amazing, one of
my I've never been to an NFL game in the US,

(01:17):
let alone it be a Jags game, and let alone
being an away fan, so I had all these kind
of I was like, would be the only one in there?
Am I brave walking around Phoenix with my Jags merch?
But from the get go it was great. First there,
got there, got to the hotel wearing a Jag shirt.
There was other Jags fans there, and everyone was as

(01:37):
soon as they heard my accent, they were like, you
traveled away from what? But everyone knows about the work
we do in the UK as well, so it's pretty
It's pretty interesting just meeting other fans and yeah, I mean,
oh so much, but awesome, awesome experience.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
I'm picturing you, by the way, because obviously there's no
like a way end when it come to like you know,
NFL games or anything. So I'm picturing you in the
stands with the loan Till jersey amongst the red of Arizona.
Is that what it was like? Or there are a
lot of Jags fans out there?

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:12):
So surprisingly, like I was saying, at the hotel, I
saw a bunch of us, which was cool. And then
I got to the stadium. It's you kind of like
park up what feels like twenty minutes away from the
stadium and then you walk for twenty minutes to get there.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
There's no like car oh stories mate, come on, Oh.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
It's crazy though. It's like the length of to get
to the stadium is a lot. And then it kind
of blows my mind that you can if you I didn't,
but you can buy beer and be in the stadium
with beer.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Was like mind blowing.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
But it was cool because I walked up to my
so that I was on like four hundred and four
or whatever, but it's actually it was high up, but
it was a great view because I could see the
whole field and as soon as I got up to
my section, there was like a couple and one of
the guys had a Lawrence jersey on and he was
he just came up to like, because you are that
away fan, I feel like the love is even stronger.
So you spot another fan and he was like, hey,

(03:06):
come on, brother, we gotta take this.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Take this on today, brother.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Just best mates, just best mates. Immediately, yeah, best mates.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
And then there was I felt like it was someone's birth.
There is like a group of five guys and five
girls all wearing drags merch that sat all behind me,
so I felt protected from them and protected by the
guy in front of me as well. But yeah, it
was there was a lot of us. There was a
lot of us, and these two people were kind of
getting into it a little bit.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Next to me.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
One Jags fan that see the problem with having the
beer at the stadium. Some people get carried away, and
I'm not gonna lie. There was a Jags fan who
was getting very confident, and it was when we had
when we'd scored the first touchdown, and he was just
going for it. I was like, dude, slow down, Like
let's let's we know what we're like at times, so
we we're not going to make it easy for ourselves

(03:56):
to get the win.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
So slow down.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
But yeah, there was a lot of us in stadium,
which kind of surprised me. I just thought away fans
in the US is not necessarily a thing, but turns
out it is, and it's not exactly close to each other.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
A long flight long, well, relatively long fly in the US,
isn't it? Relatively long fly? What a game to go
and watch? Reese? You know, I'm watching it on my
sofa and I feel like my hearts can't take it
because you know, you think that the Jangs are going
to get to get the win. Are they going to
go for the field goal? Are they going to try
and get it on fourth down? Okay, it's going to
go to overtime. I was just I was feeling tense.

(04:32):
I can't imagine how you would have felt.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, it's interesting because going into the game, I kind
of I looked at the Cardinals and kind of made
that classic sin of just thinking we got a weird
like you do, you have a high sturge of Kobe Preset.
I'm like, you know, no offensive to Cobe Presette, but
I'm just like, they got all their issues at QB.
You know, what are they really playing for?

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Genuinely, what are they actually playing for at this point?

Speaker 3 (04:57):
If anything, maybe the incentive is to try And I
know people don't think like that, but I'm sure some
of the franchise thinks, hmmm. I just think of next year,
whereas you know, we're going for it. So I was like,
I think this is going to be a pretty you know,
we're going to kind of push them over, and of course,
Jags being Jags, us being us, we're gonna make it.
We'll get the wind, but we'll make it difficult. So yeah,

(05:21):
I thought like when we went up, I was like, great,
then start getting back into it. And someone was wearing
a Baker booda Baker.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Jersey right right in front. It's like it was haunted.
So as soon as he got that pick.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
I was like, oh, here we go.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah. It was just strange.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
And I think like there's been a lot of discourse
online around Trevor at the moment, and I think that
was such a that was a kind of a metaphor
for Trevor this year. Some things you just go what
and then other things you're like genius. Ye kind of
that game was such a showing of the mix of
all his abilities as well as just some silly mistakes, which.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
I've watched that touchdown to Parker Washington like multiple times already,
and you watch it especially, I think I've watched it
from like a bird's eye view angle and you're like,
I don't I don't know how he did that, and
can you explain?

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Because it's super It's really difficult obviously when you're there.
It's like going to a foot soccer game and not
seeing the var at the stadium, So can.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
You talk me through Parker Washington. When he was receiving.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
The was it the kickoff or the yeah, So that
never got explained to you.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
So that was one of the.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
More bizarre things that I've ever seen in the in
the NFL, really, because you know that there's so many
rules in there and sometimes you just you get caught short,
I suppose with some rules. So he received it, was
it a punt or a kick? It was and he
basically he ran into the end zone, didn't he his
own end zone, which is something a cardinal sin. Cardinal sin,

(06:49):
you don't, you don't do that, and he got tackled
in the end zone, which would have been a safety.
However they did. However, an Arizona Cardinal player had touched
it before forehand, yes, and so we basically that's right,
and that basically means, well, worst case scenario, it's going

(07:09):
to be a touchback, so you can just go and
have a nice run and just see what happens. So
that's exactly how that went down. So a bit of
a bizarre situation. Really, tell me what it was like
in the end at the end of the stadium when
the Jags d like held up because obviously you're you're
surrounded by Cardinals fans as well. Did you give it
a big cheer?

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Yeah? We did.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
The ironic thing is so many people left before overtime.
Oh no, because they thought it was they thought it
was done. They thought Jags fans.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Jage fans.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Before overtime because they thought, ah, well, you know we're up,
We've got this. How can we how can we let
anything happen now? So a lot of people actually left,
which was interesting. I think it was it was a
lot more of not so much celebration, but relief.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
It was like.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
That could have went, that could have went, that could
look really bad. And it was funny seeing coach Cohen's
at the end where he's like, we don't have to apologize,
and I was like, I think a lot of relief
was coming from him as well, because for us it
was like, you can't throw this, Like this is such
a winnable game, you cannot throw it. So yeah, relief

(08:28):
rather than elation, I think was the mood.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
A great win. And tell me, just before you go reached,
just tell me what it was like. See go into
a game in the US, you know, your first game
in the US, As you say, compared to a game
in London.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Oh so I think, you know what London actually if
we're going to go off atmosphere maybe because it was
away I was. I was an away fan. The London
has an amazing atmosphere, Wembley so much so that I
thought I was going to go to the Cardinals game
and be like, ah, wow, America, does it ten times

(09:06):
bigger or ten times better? It actually doesn't. Like the
Wembley games are amazing because everyone's so locked in to
the game. They were at the Cardinals game, but I
guess it just wasn't as big as I thought it
was going to be. I mean, amazing stage production, amazing stadium.
Like I got popcorn and it was like it wasn't large.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
It was like.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
The size of my flat.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Like you know, so if you like food, it's amazing.
The drink, I mean, the drinks just everything's just ridiculous
in terms of food and drink. The stadium itself is
gorgeous and huge, very much a family kind of event,
like the whole everyone's usually in couples or it's the
whole family that's out for the day, and it really

(09:52):
does bring it felt like the whole of Arizona together.
You could imagine that kind of Arizona fan who lives
in the stick in the wilderness. They were there, which
is pretty cool as well. So yeah, overall amazing experience.
And I mean, what an opportunity to get to see
the Jags and an away games where I quite like that.
My first Jags game in the US was an away

(10:14):
game game.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
You're an away fan. You were the equivalent of you're
a Fulham fan, aren't you the equivalent of being being
in the Chelsea Chelsea home end for a film game
or something like that. Just stay in silent, Stay in silent.
And I think there's one thing that we can agree on, Reese,
which is just don't leave early. It's the NFL.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
It's the NFL, mate, never leave it.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
I don't blame them, to be fair, for it's a
twenty minute walk to the car park. But I was
a bit. I was a bit like, wow, that's insane,
Like we.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Never have like a little bus or anything.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
We know, account no bus. Oh there was, but it
was for like elderly.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
And okay, fair enough, fair enough? Yeahough?

Speaker 3 (10:54):
And I saw some great Jerseys. Oh yeah, few basellis,
aren't there?

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Nice obviously your lawrences.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
And a lot of love, a lot of love for
Parker Washington really not so much the jerseys, but in
the stadium, just so many people kind of appreciating park
of Washington, even when it was interesting talking to the
Cardinals fan when that whole return happened, and I think

(11:24):
people were genuinely he has the speed to go. I
think he thought that as well. I've actually got the
speed to go back in the end zone and break
it again. So yeah, but I thought he had a
great game.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Oh yeah, for sure, Reese, thank you so much for
coming on. Till talk. When's your next away game in
the US.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
If we go playoffs, We're going.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, we're going till talk, till talk, field trip, till
talk field trips.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Thanks for coming on you, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Salo to Cam a close personal friend of Rhee Parkinson,
and we should I ask him.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
What's his current fragrance?

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Oh oh, he is a man with a great nose.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Just to be clear, I'm going to ask him this
question and he would understand it, right, because if he doesn't,
then that's a weird question to ask somebody.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, tell him that I said that, otherwise it would
be quite random, Yeah, but he does love his fragrances.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Can We will start talking about the NFL record in
a minute, but first, Resach's for coming on.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Thank you, Thank you guys.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
And welcome NFL pundit Jason Bell. We're going to be
previewing the road game in Tennessee in a moment. But first, well,
you're not in the UK at the moment, I Jason,
you are over in the US. How's How's Dallas?

Speaker 6 (12:49):
I'm in Detown, That's what they used to call it, Dallas, Texas.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
It's good.

Speaker 6 (12:53):
You know, I have a lot of friends out here
from when I used to play. Saw my agent the
other night. I asked him could I get a ten
day contract somewhere and he said that that's over, buddy.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
So yeah, it's really cool.

Speaker 6 (13:05):
You know, I got a lot of former friends and teammates,
so it's great. And we got an amazing game coming
up with Thanksgiving, so I'm excited about that.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Are you excited to be back in the US for Thanksgiving?
Is it something that something you miss?

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (13:19):
I have a good Thanksgiving in the UK with my
American friends and my British friends and everybody from all
over the world. We kind of get together. But it
is special and unique being back here. I had some
amazing barbecue yesterday. I missed that. So yeah, it's just you.
You can feel it in the air, man. Everybody's excited
and people are together with their friends and family, and
of course they're watching football.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
My brother of course.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
So that's what thanksgivings all about. It's all about football.
And you know you've actually it's not just Dallas you've
been to is it Chicago? You've been in Chicago as well.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
I was in Chicago. Man, shout out to the Bears.
They gave us a lot of love. Man interview Caleb Williams,
their quarterback before the game.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Saw him go out there and do his thing.

Speaker 6 (13:58):
You know me in quarterbacks like the instant instant relationships man.
So uh, you know, Trevor, don't worry, You're still my
number one brother.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Don't forget, do not forget. The love is still there.
But yeah, it was. It was really cool man, And
we were on the sideline for the game. It was.
It was an amazing atmosphere.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Before we go into uh, talk about a little bit
about the game. That's just happened in the game, that's
going to happen. Just on the subject to Thanksgiving, give
me one Thanksgiving dish that you think that we should
eat more? Over it over here in the UK.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Stuffing.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
You know have stuffing.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
We have stuffing, but y'all don't have my mama's stuffing.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Okay, what's difference with your mama's stuffing.

Speaker 6 (14:37):
I have no clue what she puts in it, but
it is majestic, let me tell you right now. So
if you got time, go to Long Beach, California. Shout
out to Jerry Bell.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
She'll hold you down.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Jerry Bell, Long Beach, California. Okay, yeah, I got it,
I got it.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
I got it.

Speaker 6 (14:52):
And if you knocked on the door and it was
like Jason sent me, she'd be like, come on in.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
You open the door for people.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
And if you don't know as she lives, just knock
on every door and see who let you in. Jason,
let's do this. Where was the game one in the
desert defense?

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Defense? Defense? I mean, when you have six sacs, that's
the key.

Speaker 6 (15:16):
And what I really liked about the defense and why
I'm giving it to them, is when those turnovers happened,
they had to clean it up, and that's what a
good defense does.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Right.

Speaker 6 (15:25):
We know the game is about the three phases and
when one is struggle and the other two have to
step up to the challenge. And that's exactly what they did.
When they needed to respond, they responded, and that is
how they came out with a victory. So usually when
you talk about players in the games or who did
it on offense, you always pick somebody. But when it's
the defense, you give the defense a game ball. And

(15:46):
I'm telling you all my game balls came from the
defense as a whole.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
It was never me as an individual. So I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Well, which Jags player are you giving the game bowl?

Speaker 6 (15:57):
I mean a little Birdie told me somebody was getting
an interview later, and I heard that interview was with
a guy that I think should get the game ball,
and it's Cam Little. Oh, I mean Cam Little coming through.
Big kicks man, two big field goals. I think we're
over over fifty yards. I mean, there you go. When
your offense is struggling, you gotta come through with the

(16:18):
big kicks.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
He delivered.

Speaker 6 (16:19):
So I told you those out of three phases, two
gotta win, special teams won and the defense one.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
What was the key moment of the turning point that
we might have missed.

Speaker 6 (16:31):
I think it was I'm gonna give it to h
Parker Washington in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (16:37):
Coming through and he finds a way, doesn't he, Like
every game is, you know, whether it's special teams or
a big catch, Like, he understands the moment and he delivers.
And he's becoming that guy, which is key, right, who's
the guy's gonna get you a play. He's great with
the ball in his hands, in his space, and I
gotta give him some love too, man, and especially in
the special teams the long return U part return that

(17:01):
set him up for that short drive.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
So that was the key man he came through.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
What needs to improve well, a.

Speaker 6 (17:07):
Lot of decision making by my man, Trevor Lawrence and
protection has some issues with protection, but still as a quarterback,
the decision making I saw. I think it was a
false start one time, and that's on the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Man.

Speaker 6 (17:21):
Whenever the quarterbacks at the line of scrimmage, people getting
lined up being correct, unless you're a rookie.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
That's on you.

Speaker 6 (17:27):
So I want to see that discipline and I want
to see that improvement which I have faith that can happen.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
And finally, how do the Jags beat the Tennessee Titans
this weekend and get to eight and four.

Speaker 6 (17:40):
Hey man, we've seen this is a balanced team. Let's
not hurt ourselves. Let's go back in the lab. Let's
cut down on the turnovers, the penalty, clean up the protection,
all those things. The defense will make it hard. Cam Ward,
he's going to be a great quarterback for them in
the future.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
I like him. They found their quarterback, but not this week,
not this week. No, not this week. We don't need it.

Speaker 6 (18:04):
We got no time for it. So this is one
of those games which I love. Let's get us right.
I always appreciate when you can have those conversations because
that means you're doing correct things in your organization and
you just need to stick to it. And I think
that's exactly what needs to happen this week. Let's clean
up on the mistakes. Let's go out there and do
it again. We are learning our identity, our playmakers and

(18:25):
things like that.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
Let's lean into it. Well.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
The Titans at the moment, with I think the worst
record in the league. I believe is this a kind
of a game where you know from your experience as well.
Of course being in the league, you need to try
and make sure that you don't assume you've got the
win before you've even played.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
Especially in adivisual game you know each other like, you
can't sit back there and relax. Great teams don't do that.
Great teams beat bad teams bad. That's what they do.
They don't play down to their opponents. So absolutely, this
is a conversation that being had that we don't need
to play to their level. We need to play to
our expectation and go out there and make it happen.

(19:06):
But because of the familiarity, you have to be aware
that you can't go out there sleepwalking, as they say,
you got to go out there and make it happen.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
All right, Predictions Mini ture. The Lawrence figurine is up
for grabs. Jason, you know you got it close Jacks
one twenty seven, twenty four. Yeah, you said twenty eight
twenty one. That's not too bad, not too bad. No,
I went twenty one twenty. I don't hate that. He
went thirty five thirty. I don't hate that either, to
be honest, A point each a bonus for you. J Bell.

(19:37):
So it's Jason with ten. I'm on eight. Key is
somehow with six, which seems better than I thought. This week.
Of course, it's the Tennessee Titans Keys on a bye
week this week. So he says via WhatsApp thirty one seven.

(19:58):
He went, Jason, seven, is this that?

Speaker 5 (20:02):
I mean?

Speaker 1 (20:02):
That is pure key behavior right there? Confidence? Confidence? Are
you going similar with your prediction?

Speaker 4 (20:07):
I'm going twenty eight fourteen.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Oh that is that is a big one as well.
That's a big one.

Speaker 6 (20:12):
Twenty eight fourteen. I mean, yeah, twenty fourteen. I think
this is a kick in the butt game. Let's get right,
let's fix some things. Let's go out there and execute.
I'm hoping that, you know. So yeah, let's go out
there and make it happen. Man, Let's let's go out
there and fire the fan base up. Trevor, Hey, it's
week to week. Go out there and do it. Get right,
cut down on the turnovers, let's get an end.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Zone and I'll go twenty one ten.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
That's actually I actually like that.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
But all of them are to at least two scores.
So yeah, we got confidence, we got confidence.

Speaker 6 (20:47):
We're believers. I mean, that's that's why we do this podcast.
I mean we we we truly are believers, which is good,
which is which is what we need to do.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Jason, thank you for coming on. Tell me what you
what you've got planning for the next few days then, so.

Speaker 6 (20:59):
Just prepping for the game tomorrow, then the game tomorrow Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
We're covering both of them from.

Speaker 6 (21:06):
Dallas Cowboys Stadium, so that'll be really cool. Back on
the plane back to London.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
School run.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
You know what I'm saying. Shut out the school run,
school run.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
And oh yeah, when I get back on Saturday, then
I got to cover the weekend's game.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
So it's it's all. It's go time. Man.

Speaker 6 (21:22):
I got football on the brain. I'm prepping for everything.
But I love it.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
When's your next day off?

Speaker 6 (21:29):
Lunch? Not a lot of days off. Now I'm going
to sleep on a Saturday somewhere. Okay, I don't know when,
but yeah, I find a way.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
Man.

Speaker 6 (21:39):
Half the time I think I'm dead and I can't
do it, and I wake up and I just run
into a wall again. I'm like, man, this is this
is football all over again.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Before you go, Jason, just answer this question. Who is
the only NFL team to never play a game on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 6 (21:52):
The only NFL team to never play on Thanksgiving?

Speaker 4 (21:57):
Geez, is it Jacksonville?

Speaker 1 (21:59):
It's Jacksonville's Jacksonville.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
I don't yeah, I don't remember at all. Yeah, I
was gonna say Houston or Jacksonville to be honest.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Did you plan Thanksgiving?

Speaker 4 (22:10):
Yeah? Oh yeah, I played because I want to play
for the Cowboys. Yeah?

Speaker 7 (22:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Was that?

Speaker 1 (22:13):
What was that experience?

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Like?

Speaker 4 (22:15):
I balled out? First of all, because the nation was watching, Like,
I mean, everybody, everybody was watching. Maybe y'all had to
get three stuff team tackles.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
I mean it was a must. But you want to
hear something funny.

Speaker 6 (22:29):
That's when I found out Texas Dallas was a dry
county because after the game, I'm driving with my brother.
I'm like, man, we need to get something, you know,
have something for the house, and we couldn't find anything
anywhere at the store.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
What is going on? Man? I realized what was happening.
I wanted to celebrate at the house with my brother.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
What did you have instead? Just just water, just a
lot of water.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Yeah. We had we had we had sleep, That's what
we had.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Sleep.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Austin man. Yeah, just just water man. It was. It was.
It was fun though. It was good. It was.

Speaker 6 (22:58):
It was something I'll never forget. We won at the end.
It was against Washington. I think it was a fumble
we picked up or something.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
It was dope. It was really cool.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving life over in the US and Thanksgiving life
for Jay Bell. Cheers j Bell, Speak you next week.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
Till next week.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Hight Cam Little on the way in a second, cheers
Ad Jason by the way, and enjoying his Thanksgiving out
in the US. First exciting news for all of us
here at til Talk, crually the till Talk podcast team
till Talk. I'm trying to think of a cool nickname
an got one. We were getting together for our Christmas
do at the Greenwood Pub in Victoria in London, where

(23:33):
we'll be recording an episode of till Talk whilst also
watching the Jets versus Jaguars game December fourteenth, So Sunday,
December fourteenth, kickoff is at six pm. Love it if
you could come on down, come join us. Basically, if
you fancy like a festive watch along, The Greenwood has
tables available that you can book via the Sport London website.

(23:56):
Under Greenwood, but we'll also put those details on Jaguars
dot co dot UK. We'd love to see you there.
All right, let's welcome Cam little to till Talk. Actually,
let's welcome NFL record holder Cam Little to teal Talk.
Have you got sick of hearing that sentence yet?

Speaker 7 (24:14):
I swear I see that, whether it's through social media
or someone asked me about it, that's the only way
people know who I am through that kick.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
So I've heard a lot about it. Is it tired
of it? But it's a good thing to get tired of.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Is it when you close your eyes when you go
to sleep? Is that what you're seeing at night?

Speaker 7 (24:29):
I wish I could say I saw that. I still
look at it, but I have to move on from it, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
I mean, but tell me what the last few weeks
have been like though, since that kick, because you know,
as you say, it must have been kind of kind
of mental in a little in a little way.

Speaker 7 (24:43):
Yeah, I think, you know, I think that kid gave
me a lot of confidence come especially coming off bye week,
and kind of have built off that. And I've had
someone like I was talking I think with Logan and
Ross and I was like you know, the two fifty
plus your orders I had this past week, and I've
only done that with two fifty plus in one game.
I've only done that one other time in my career
and that was in college. So like, I'm building off

(25:05):
of that, and that's what I'm you know, kind of
trying to keep my mindset doing. Is just building off of,
you know, good games. You know, you keep that confidence
rolling and it turns into even bigger games.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
So I'm trying to use it to my advantage.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Well, look, you hit that sixty eight yard. I can
only imagine that you went back into the locker room
and you looked at your phone and it was just
like message after message after message.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 7 (25:28):
You you know, I hit the seventy in pre season
and that's how my phone was. Yeah, and then you
hit the sixty eight natural season and it's like two
times is worse.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
So it's insane.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Did you have people like hitting you up and you
were just like I have not spoken to in years?
Why now?

Speaker 5 (25:44):
This is like that isn't it even?

Speaker 7 (25:46):
You know, when you get drafted or you go play
Division one football somewhere, people are coming out of the
woodwork just out of nowhere and it's like I haven't
heard from you in years.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Man, What.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Is there a part of you though? After And I know,
I know you say you like moving on and I
don't want to like, you know, hop on about it.
But is there a part of you that after you
to the sixty eight you've obviously that you did this
seventy in preseason? Is there a part of you that's
now like, all right, coach, when you get that opportunity
to go seventy or seventy one, like let's let's go

(26:17):
for it.

Speaker 7 (26:17):
Yeah, I think you know there's gonna be opportunities like
that for sure, like into game, into half. I mean
that is definitely our goal is to get me into
you know, field goal range especially, I think and you
know you think about it before halftime. You know, when
we're driving down the line is obviously a lot further
than what it was probably for me last season because
of my ability to kind of you know, kick it

(26:38):
from that long. But yeah, I think you know the
opportunities are going to become more consistent.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Is there a distance that you feel comfortable? I mean,
like is it seventy one, two three?

Speaker 4 (26:47):
What?

Speaker 1 (26:48):
What's what's the what's the like the line, you.

Speaker 7 (26:50):
Know, you try and usually my lines from the forty
five yard line, so that would make it a sixty three.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
Like that's where you really start.

Speaker 7 (26:56):
Feeling like, okay, yeah, you have a way better shots
like a I mean trying to equate it to something
in another sport, like you can drive that could drive
you know, guy you know drives the ball in golf
three hundred and thirty yards.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
Three fifty if he really presses on it.

Speaker 7 (27:10):
But you don't know where that ball is going at
that point, so you know, comfortable sixty to sixty three.
I think that was you know, that's kind of usually
my range.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
I mean part of me was a little bit gutted
actually that you did it the game after you were
playing at Wembley Stadium? Can you could you imagine? Could
you imagine what the whole of that stadium would be
like at the home of football as well, cam that.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
I would be on real the scenes would be nuts.
That's why I do it. Where do a Leper performed?
I went and watch du A Leapa? Oh yeah, the
year I was like I gotta put on for du
a Leaper.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
You can put it on for d a leaper. You
gotta put it on for do a leaper. I mean, look,
you've been quite open, actually, Avenue, I suppose that you know,
obviously it's been you know, I suppose a whirl win
last few weeks, but you were open before that that
this it wasn't necessarily this season that you know that
you wanted to have.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
And you know, you.

Speaker 7 (27:56):
Build you know, you build up so well in the preseason,
and you find success early in the season and then
you hit the you know, three or four games that
I just was not you know, being consistent and doing
my job to the best of my ability, and to
kind of get that byeway to reset and then start
really building off of you know, that reset, and I've
had four games now where you know, we're putting it together.

(28:17):
It kind of gives you like a you know, you
got to kind of flip the page and turn it
into a whole new mindset of like, I can't let
that hinder me anymore, and so I'm glad to kind
of flip the page and started building confidence after that
whole or deal happened earlier in the season.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
The whole oldle deal man, the way that you put
that the whole ole deal. Why is it do you
think that like kickers can I mean this is a
broad question. Why is it the kickers can just kick
so far now whereas like a few years ago, it
was just not the norm.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 7 (28:46):
I think you can kind of equate it to I
think the guys, like, I think guys are just getting
better at kicking, like you know, the longer field goals
obviously because coaches.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
Are letting them attempt it.

Speaker 7 (28:55):
Like I mean, you look at Matt Prader, what twelve
thirteen years ago I think number was when he hit
a sixty four, And so I think guys have always
had the leg for it, but coaches have always just
been like, you know, they never really tried to attempt
anything further back from you know, fifty eight to sixty
yards because they're like, you know, what's the point. But
I think guys are kind of like sneaking their way

(29:16):
into that opportunity. Maybe they're you know, doing it in
practice more and that's giving them the opportunities in game.
I think the game is just evolving to where, especially
with the new kickoff rule or the ball is getting
to the thirty five and forty I think coaches are
more you know, open to kicking that longer field goal
because you only got to get I mean, realistically, if
you know you're down, you know, down three points, you
got a minute left in the game, you got to

(29:36):
drive twenty yards fifteen twenty yards in order to get
in field goal range for a bulk of the NFL,
to get like a sixty three or sixty five yard
And I know a lot of coaches would be comfortable
throwing their guy out there for that kick if they
needed to. And so I think the kickoff rule and
just the game evolving and just kind of the direction
that's going with you know, guys, I think that's probably
the most the two most important things that's happening.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Tell me how the season actually feels. Okay, tell me
how you feel like right now, Okay, being in the organization,
being a part of the Jags organization, because obviously this
is your second season in the NFL. This time last season,
you were looking at a very different end of the
season to how you're looking at now, weren't you.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 7 (30:17):
And it's it's I think it's so cool to see
because I've seen I've lived a last year that kind
of when we went four and thirteen. I've lived that
throughout my last two years of my college career too.
We just weren't very good at Arkansas. My first year
we were pretty good, but the last two years we
weren't very good, and so it felt like I was
like I was cursing my team, whatever team I was on,
I feel like we just couldn't win.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
But it's really.

Speaker 7 (30:40):
Cool to see just the whole culture shift that this
place has kind of had in the offseason. And that's
not to say we didn't have culture last year, but
I think, you know, with bringing you know, Tony James
and Liam All on staff, I think that was, you know,
such a big deal. Brings to the youth point energy.
It brings guys that you know, you know, care a
lot about this organization, especially Tony because he's been in

(31:02):
here for so long, and you know, William and James
are extremely smart and extremely good at what they do,
and so we bring the right players that you know,
match the culture fit. And I think when you put
that all together with a winning mindset and kind of
the you know things you know we hold close and
you know, the culture we're trying to build here, I
think that it all just turns into a really good

(31:23):
recipe for success, and so it's been really cool to
be a part of.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, I saw that locker room after that last win,
and you know you got that. You've got to shout out,
didn't you? From coach Cohen? It looked like you were
enjoying that.

Speaker 5 (31:33):
So yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 7 (31:34):
It's fun when you get to come especially out of
you know, it was a cool moment when Foyer got
his thousand tackles.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
That's so cool.

Speaker 7 (31:40):
You know, you see how much it means to the
team for someone's individual success, but his individual success contributes
to the team's success.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
It's really cool.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
I started to bust A Brown on till Talk actually
a couple of weeks ago, because obviously, you know, you
played with him at Arkansas as well. He sort of
drifted over a little bit, didn't you. For was it
just the.

Speaker 7 (31:58):
One yeah year and his last year yep.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, And then of course you know in Jacksonville together,
he refused to tell me any good off the field
stories about you. I was like, go on, give us
a story, give us a story. So this is my question,
can you tell us any good off the field stories
about him?

Speaker 7 (32:16):
Honestly, and this is gonna be this is really honest.
Me and him were two totally quiet dudes in that line.
That's so hard to think about me being quiet, but
it's not a person. But I was a freshman in
college at the time. Yeah, and he was just a
quiet Buster's always just been a quieter dude. He just
goes to the field and works and so not very
many crazy stories between me and him, which is crazy

(32:37):
if the and he's from Arkansas as well, so i'd
have to, you know, I'd have to really do some
digging to get some good stories about Buster. All I
know is Buster was a freaking ballery when he was
at Arkansas. He obviously in that LSU game picked the
had to pick at the end of the LSU game
in order for us to give the possession, and we
just went down there kicked a field goal.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
Remember that.

Speaker 7 (32:55):
It's so cool to be on the same team as him. Now,
That's the first thing I said to him when I
got drafted. I was like, we get to relive it again,
don't we.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, I mean that that must be kind of amazing.
That must be kind of amazing. Look, I know you
didn't get the result when you were out here in London.
But how was it when you were here? And you
know what, did you we were able to get any
more fish and chips because I know that's what you're
excited to do last season.

Speaker 7 (33:15):
We did Actually if we did get some when we're
at the Grove and Watford, they.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
Served a good They've served some good fish and chips.

Speaker 7 (33:22):
Did a lot of shopping, did a lot of walking around,
went to Carnaby, did some shop in there, Oxford Street,
went with some shopping in Oxford Street, had some good food,
went to Nobu in London.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
Killed it. It was fun.

Speaker 7 (33:36):
I always, like I said, London's like my favorite spot
to visit in the world. I just think, you know,
it's the language barrier, isn't there? The culture I love there.
The food's always good, Like the food is good to
me there, and the shopping is obviously very good, and
it's a lot of fun. And I love soccer, so
that that the culture is fun.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yeah, home of football. I mean, we come on, come on,
I mean, you can't get much better than that.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
You can't.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Okay, I'm gonna leave you with one last question. So
I spoke to Rhees Parkinson, a little bit earlier on
who was out for out the game? I don't know,
did you do you know this?

Speaker 4 (34:09):
Yeah? Oh?

Speaker 7 (34:09):
I tried him a text. You posted news in Phoenix.
I was like, come on, let's go.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah, he was. He had a great time. Put it
that way. He had a great time.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
Phoenix. Man, it's good, easy to have a good time there.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
He had a really good time. And I spoke to
a little bit earlier on and I said to him,
all right, well, what shall I ask Cam? And I'm
hoping that this makes sense to you because if it doesn't,
it's just like it. Wait, me look like a weird
asking this question. Okay, what's your current fragrance?

Speaker 7 (34:38):
Oh gosh, he always Yeah. Me and him talk fragrances
all the time. Right now, I'm wearing a Dipty fragrance
and I actually got it when I was in London
last year.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
It was called tam Down tam da o.

Speaker 7 (34:51):
It's kind of a more fresh fragrance and I wear
it almost all the time after I leave the facility.
That's like what I put on. And I actually got
it in Selfridges when I was in London.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
So what's it got? Hints off?

Speaker 7 (35:02):
Hints of I think top note is sandal would Yeah,
I think it has some spice in there as well
as well. Yeah, I think sandal wood and spice are
the top two top two notes.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
Maybe some patuli in there as well.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Cam Little very good at kicking lights his fish and chips.
Good nose, got a good nose? Is that a fair
way to describe it?

Speaker 5 (35:22):
Love my fragrances for sure.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Cam, thanks so much for coming on and good luck.
Of course we haven't even spoken about football this weekend.
Good luck this weekend.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
Oh appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (35:30):
Nashville would be a good time get out there and
get a w So appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Jay.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
All right, So on till tal today, we've had Reese
Parkinson fresh from Arizona, extremely jet lagged. In fact, thinking
about it, we've had Reese Parkerson fresh from Arizona in
the US. We've had Jason Bell of course, he was
in the US. He's out for Thanksgiving to you know,
obviously go and watch the watch football there as well.
And straight out of Jacksonville, NFL record holder camp Little.

(35:57):
I anticipate that that's the way that we're going to
be calling him, that's what we're gonna be recording him
on till talk for a lot longer as well. He's
not Cam Little anymore. He's NFL record holder Cam Little. Anyway,
what a lot of fun. I had a lot of fun.
Of course, we'll be back next week. This weekend it
is Jaggs against the Tennessee Titans divisional game. Of course,
can the Jags get that win? Can the Jags get

(36:19):
to eight and four? So it's Sunday Tennessee Titans six
pm out in Nashville at six pm our time, UK time.
We'll see you next week. This has been a shooting
sharp production for Jacksonville. JANKI was UK and Ireland in
partnership with Gallagher. Let's go Jags.
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