July 31, 2025 • 44 mins
We kick things off one of Bo's signature movie references, which leads to (more) summer camp talk, and dive into our new favorite rabbit hole: the WBT Text Line - powered by Liberty Buick GMC - and listener questions & comments.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It was like two months since we were last doing this.
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Well?
Speaker 3 (00:06):
I was gone last week. That's why I was.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I was time stops when Beth is gone.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome to the seventeen segment, an official podcast, A good
morning beat.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
By the way, have we started?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I think, sir? I think here we are episode eight
of seven of the seventeenth segment.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Which if you're thinking about movies, which I always do, like,
what does it correlate to, what's the what's a what's
an episode eight you can think of?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
And the furious is there are there eight of those?
I don't know there's ten now?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
So yeah, no, you're good. Yeah, there wasn't up in
the same decade. Come on, come on, Steve.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
This academy only six, they were only six. Stopped at seven,
there were only seven.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Friday the Thirteenth, Part eight, Jason takes Manhattan?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Did he do?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Like?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Did he take? In a couple of shows?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
And I've never made it to the end because it's
just so terrible.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
I don't think I've ever seen a Friday the Thirteenth
movie straight through it.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Oh day, Yeah no, I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
They dal imaged me as a kid.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
They here damaged me I remember, like I was at
summer camp. Somehow we can escape summer camp. This week,
summer camp came up on the morning show, The Regular Show,
and I spent a long time at summer camp. Beth
actually was doing a documentary at a camp last week.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Last week, I was at a summer camp for young
kids who have cancer and their siblings and they get
to go for free.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
But as we learned today, she also went to a
grown up camp a few years ago, like not that long,
like twenty nineteen. And this became a whole thing on
the show, because why would it not. I mean, when
you find out that Beth went to a grown up camp,
I'm working really hard not to say adult camp.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Because adult camp sounds strange, right, It sounds weird, like
an adult shop or something.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Anything you've attached adult to. Like every time I talk
about the intimate bookshop, well it used to be at
South Park, Everybody's like, kind of was that right, I'm like,
it was in the middle of the mall. How intimate
was Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
It was not. It was just a regular bookshop. But yeah,
that's what adult camp. I went to a police called
Camppowerment because someone told me about it. And my, my, My.
The way that I try to approach life is I
try to say yes to things that are kind of
outside of my comfort zone. Things that scare me are
things that we've made.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
This, I said yes to this.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I said, Beth, let's do a show. She said, Okay, yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Let's see what this is. Like I've never done radio,
but let's let's see.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
What this two podcast in the basement. Yes, Yes, do you.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Want to go to summer camp at the Poconos with
a whole bunch of women you've never met? No?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Absolutely you did. And so we talked about that today.
That and so camp keeps sort of coming back in.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yes, which Friday the thirteenth was originally set at camp,
which it Maybe that's why I didn't go to camp
as a young kid. I think I was afraid that
that Jason and Mike Mike Meyer was Mike Myers, We're
gonna come out of the lake.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Well, see, I went to camp, and then I remember
a kid at camp telling me about Friday the thirteenth.
So I heard about all the different they're like, I
don't know, they're like twelve of them now. But the
very early ones were set in a camp.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Very Halloween was too, right, was Halloween?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Mike Myers no night?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
No, but Camp Crystal Lake was Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Didn't Mike Myer die? Mygers die in a lake? And
like at camp, didn't the kids that camp kill him?
That's all Jason, That's all Jason.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yes, Mike Myers was in Illinois in a town on Halloween.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Night, Okay, which is why it's called Halloween.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Breddy Krueger had the big, big night.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I know, Freddy Krueger.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, because he haunted people's dreams, well nightmares technically, well do.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
You remember do you remember? Uh, the third one?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
You know, the dream doc in Dream Warriors dock In.
A lot of people think that's the best.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
One, that's the best song from one of the songs,
But the first one is by far the best one
because it's the most horrifying because you don't get the
full You don't really see a lot of Freddy, at
least you don't see his full face lit up.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Same reason Jaws. The first one works is because you
actually see the least amount of the shark in the
first one, and you have to imagine what must really
be there. You know, all these horror movies and like
the fourth Jaws that the shark chases them to the Bahamas.
She's just so dumb. But then as you get to
part eight, which is why I'm talking about this at all.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, we just went down a rabbit hole froday.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
The thirteenth Part eight is Jason Takes Manhattan. So I
have no idea what that means as it relates to this.
I just that's a number eight that I can think of.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Well, hopefully this won't be as bad as that film was.
But we asked at the end of our show today
today being Wednesday, Thursday July thirtieth. It is Thursday, July thirtieth,
So if you want to go back and listen to
today's show and the camp conversation and all of that,
you can find it on the WBT website or wherever
you get your podcast Good Morning BT. But we asked
people to text us on our new text line seven
(05:04):
oh four five, seven oh eleven ten, which again, we
love it if you text us and let us know
when you're listening to the seventeenth segment, whatever time of
day it is. We like getting the time stamp. But
we ask people to ask us questions and as always
you delivered.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
The other thing about telling us when you're listening is,
you know, if it's if it's during a random part
of the day when somebody else's shows on, it like
basically tells them, oh, we're still thinking about that morning show.
I don't care what you're talking about. Hey, just kidding.
I'm just kidding. So Hendon, who actually is the guy
that texted the show? If you were listening earlier today
(05:39):
or whenever you listen to the podcast, it's the Thursday show.
Hendon called in because we were talking about famous voices.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, and I was asking about we people know and
recognize a lot of male voices. And I was just
wondering whose female voices? What what female voices are intriguing
to people or or are recognizable to people.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
So he texted us and said that he is married
to Kelly Myers, who is She used to be a
personality on one oh seven point nine and in our building.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
He first fell in love with her voice before he
ever met her. He fell in love with her voice,
which is so cool.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And I said on the air, and I'll tell you
again here I didn't know very well, but you know,
we passed in the Hall sometimes and every once in
a while we're part of a you know, station project
or multiple station product project. And she has a great voice.
She's the one if you listen to our promos that
says your emergency situation station. And she used to be
(06:35):
on the IDs. I don't think she is anymore. Always
really liked her voice, and it's just funny. I was
thinking about her voice the other day and then Hendon
texts the show. So here's his follow up question, because
we asked four questions for this, and he said, seventeenth
segment question, what is the hardest part of being on
the radio? Beth? People might recognize you from your TV time,
(06:56):
but do you ever get that cashier at Walmart or
wherever that just goes Your voice seems so familiar. Is
it hard to just be a voice? I feel like
on TV we think of hosts as people, but radio
we tend to think of hosts as only one aspect,
when in reality, you're so much more.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Wow, that's a really thoughtful, really thoughtful question.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Now we will answer all seventeen of those questions. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Well, the funny thing about all of the years I
spent on television, I sometimes got recognized even when I
was on television for my voice, because out and about
in the real world, I'll very often, you know, have
my hair and a bun on top of my head
and no makeup on and workout close, you know, and
people might think you look vaguely familiar, but they think
(07:43):
that maybe they've seen you at the grocery store before,
or maybe you're a person that they have, you've waited
on their table, or you've been at the dry cleaners together,
and they just kind of recognize you. Is that weird?
But still to now, yes, people do say people do
hear my voice and that I have a couple of
(08:04):
times in the last just in the last couple of months,
I've had people say hear my voice and say are
you Are you Beth Troutman?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
And on they say, are you that Beth Troutman.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
But I love I love that something like my that
they might recognize the I think there's something kind of
intimate about and I don't mean intimate like the intimate bookshop,
but I mean intimate about recognizing someone by their their voice.
I think it's the thing that hindon I'm answering this
(08:37):
to you that I I love about this is that
radio is only voice, and it's only your personality and
ideas and kind of the way your mind works and
the way that you communicate, whereas with television, so much
of it is such a visual medium that when I
(08:58):
was in TV, the majority of the emails and messages
I got from from viewers were about my physical appearance,
and oftentimes incredibly cruel, you know, whether they didn't like
my hair, they had a problem with my makeup, or
with whatever I was wearing. And it was very rarely,
(09:20):
I very rarely got a lot of comments about the
content of stories that I created, or stories I was telling,
or the things that I was working really hard on.
And sometimes it really broke my heart, and really it
kind of wore on me some of the time. Because
they're also with television, there are appearance clauses in contracts,
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and I couldn't do things like cut my hair without
permission from management, or you know, color change the color
of my hair, or I had to they gave us
makeup to orioles, And you're just kind of constantly having
to focus on things that I just didn't want to
(10:07):
be focused on. And I think I started getting really
sad when other people were really focused on those things
as well.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
And I get it.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It's a visual medium and we're visual animals, and it's
just kind of the way the world works. But I
actually kind of love the fact that radio is just
the personality.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
And so.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
For me, that's the easiest thing about radio because I
don't know, it's given me so much freedom because I
don't have to think, I don't have to think about it,
and I don't have management coming into the studio to say, Beth,
you need to powder your nose, your nose is shiny,
or you know, like which all of those things happened
to me.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Well, the ironic thing about TV, and you were in
TV longer than me, but I was in TV for
three years, truth be told, is because I was in
one radio job here. I left here and then went
and worked for another radio station for four or five years,
and then when the economy tanked in two thousand and eight,
(11:10):
it disbanded. It was not the long tenured station that
we work for now. This was sort of an upstart
thing that I was sort of intrigued by going and
kind of trying to build something. If you remember Danny Fontana,
I worked for him for several years and he had
a good thing going for a while. Then the financing
fell through, and suddenly in two thousand and eight, I
(11:31):
was on the beach, as they say, I was out
looking for work and none of the traditional radio places,
including here that I went and you know, asked about jobs,
and they didn't have anything. So my next course of
action was to, Okay, I know a guy, a couple
of people who work at a TV station here in town.
(11:52):
They're old radio guys, and that made the transition. So
they got me an interview and I went and got
a job there. But the ironic thing is is that
I learned in three years working primarily behind the scenes
in TV. You see someone on TV and you watch
them all the time, but you get very very little
of the real person who they are, because first of all,
(12:15):
it's so scripted. TV segments are short, and they're also
written by other people. Like nine times out of ten,
when you see somebody talking on television, especially in a
new local news setting, they're not talking to you like
we're talking to you right now. They're reading words that
somebody else wrote. I know because my job was to
write those words well.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
And I used to say to any of my co
hosts that I used to work with in television. I
used to say, like, man, I'm so bored. I'm just
I'm just reading out loud. And I used to sing
this song Bill mcintee, if you're watching the seventeenth segment,
we had so much fun. We'd gotten into shenan against
all the time. But I would go, as I'm walking
into the studio, I had this little song that I
(12:55):
would seeing as we were walking in, I would say,
it's that time in the time to read news out
loud again. I think it drove my bosses crazy, but
it's kind of what you're doing, and you don't get
to know two.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Years ago or three years ago, this conversation might have
went Wow. Now I'm like, yep, that's pretty much what
I would think it would do.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
So when you don't get to access all the parts
of your personality and and the majority of it is
mostly negative stuff, I didn't. I mean, you know me
so well. Now can you imagine my soul and being
so boxed in in that kind of setting. Can you
imagine how sad I must have been.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Oh, I can't believe you did it as long as
you did. But but you also here's the thing about TV,
and I did well as a TV producer because now
I didn't I didn't do a news show. I did
if you remember, I think they I don't think it's
still on the air anymore. I know if it is,
it's not in the same form it used to be.
But WCCB, when we were there, it was called Fox Charlotte.
(14:01):
But they had a show called The Edge, and that's
where it started, right. So the Edge was and this
is part of the reason why they hired me in
the first place, because I was kind of a I
lived in the middle of both worlds. What The Edge
was was a show that came on after the traditional newscast.
That was two hosts and they varied over the years.
Started out with Morgan Fogerty and brother Fred, but it
(14:23):
was too close.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
When I was doing it, it was Mark Mathis and
Ashley Anderson.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yes, that's what that's where it started with me, and
then Beth was Beth and I did not cross paths
there like two ships going like yeah, because it was
really close.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, so close.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
But what I'm getting at is the reason I worked
there and reason they liked me is because I because
The Edge was a radio show on TV. That's what
it was. And so basically what my job was was
to write copy for them to sound like they were
talking like you and me are right now.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And writing conversationally. That is a skill that you have
to know the person you're writing for so well in
order to try to write in their voice.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Now, this show was set up so that what I
was writing were the jump off points. In other words,
we'd set up the story.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Right and lib it would say ad lib in parentheses.
Now I did the show I started. My very first
TV appearance was on the Edge.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But see you and me, you had not done radio
yet then, but I had lived in radio. So when
I see ad lib, I'm like, yeah, I'm all about that.
When you write ad lib on the screen to someone
who's never worked in radio before and has just used
to reading a teleprompter, those are the two scary, scariest
words you've ever heard ad lib?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Have you ever? I mean, I know that everyone has
watched a newscast the times, in a normal newscast, not
a show like the Edge, but like a six o'clock newscast.
The time that they write ad lib in parentheses is
it's always the weather toss and the weather toss back.
And that's why it's always so awkward when they're just like, yeah,
it's gonna be, it's gonna be sunny tomorrow, right, Yeah,
(16:02):
it's gonna be. It's good. Nicely put on your jacket,
you know, because it's the only time you get to
ad lib. But how many times can you say a
sentence that's interesting, you know, about that same topic. And
it was the only time that we could possibly let
our our personalities out. I often let my personality out,
(16:23):
and I every time I did, I kind of got
in trouble.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
This is the first job you've ever had in broadcasting
where you don't get in trouble for your personality coming out.
In fact, it's encouraged.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Well, And I don't know if it was surprising to
people who maybe had watched Fox News Rising when I
did the morning show for Fox that it was a
little more loosey goosey because half the time our teleprompter
wasn't working anyway, so I would just get to chat
with guests and have conversations, and I was a little
I got to be a little more myself in that realm.
And then after after that, everything got a little a
(16:55):
little more, a little more scripted. And although I guess
right this minute was all ad lib it was all
but it was ad libbing about videos. It was ad
libbing about a specific topic.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
So back to the question about well, no, I mean,
do we get down a rabbit hole? But he knew that,
he knew this was going to go there? Who knew
that was going to happen? Yes? Right? But but the
question what I was getting at is is it's ironic
that TV. You watch somebody on TV and you see
what they look like, and you watch them every day,
but you get to know very very little of who
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they are because they're not allowed to talk for very long,
and even when they do talk, it's scripted. Radio is
the complete opposite. Radio Now it's changed a little bit.
When I was a kid, I remember the first time
I ever came out to WBT and I met people
that I had been listening to as a kid. You
didn't see them the way you do today because we
didn't have you know, the internet, we didn't have the
(17:47):
phone today. If you work in radio management, and this
is pretty par for the course, wherever you go, they
want you to do some sort of video component Hi, here, we.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Are, here, we are that's what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
But but you know what I mean, Like in the
old days, the days of yr if you listen to
the radio. Part of the thing with radio is you
would listen to somebody and you would sort of decide
in your head what they look like. And I remember
the first time I met Henry Bogan, who used to
do a talk show at night here back in the seventies, eighties,
early nineties. I remember the first time I saw him,
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and it was jarring because it's not what I thought
he looked like.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
And you had created an image in your head for
however many years you had been listening, and suddenly the
image changed. That's I think. That's the other thing that
I love about radio is that it is intimate and
it also requires a little bit of imagination. I kind
of wish that I had grown up in a time
where people didn't sit around the television. They listened to
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the stories the performances on radio. And it's like reading
a book. And you guys, know, if you listened to
the show, you know I love to read.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
That's exactly where I was headed.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
That's cussing. I love creating the story in my head.
I get to picture the characters, I get to picture
the backdrop, I get to picture the and it's and
it's mine, and it's only mine because no one else
can see it. And I think that's what feels intimate
about radio and maybe why I love it more than television,
even though I love creating things like documentaries and the
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visual imagery that goes along with that, But like the
I'm gonna say this and the beauty pageant part of television,
it's just not appealing to me at all. And it
probably is because of how I grew up and just
kind of this constant as a female, just this constant
pressure of looking a certain way and adhering to a
certain standard and and and being the right weight and
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the right size, and the right clothes and the right makeup,
the right hair and all of that is just it's
so not important. It's just so not a focus. It's
not anything I want to focus on. And again, I
know that people live and we live in a visual world,
and that that people are are visual, but it's not
what matters. You know, this is this we live in.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
But I think people overplay that because if that were
totally true, that it's all about visual, then the medium
that we live in every day wouldn't still be viable.
Because I'll tell you this the best. If look TV,
it can do many wonderful things. And it's great to
be able to watch a ball game on TV. But
if you listen, if you take take an iconic game
(20:23):
that you can think of of a sporting event that
you watch. Maybe it's the Carolina Ascent, I don't know
it should be, but think of a famous game. And
then if you take the play by play that you
would hear on TV while you're watching it versus what
you hear on the radio. A radio play by play
person has to paint the picture. They have to give
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you all the tools. And to me, it's night and day.
It's not even close the two mediums. And I'm not
knocking TV, but I think people are. I mean, you
look at what's happening with podcasts. We're on one right now.
Audio is not dead. Audio has just evolved. And the
beautiful thing about audio is much like reading a book,
there's still that element of it where you get to
(21:07):
sort of decide in your own head the way certain
things are. Now. The person on the on the radio
helps you paint that picture, and if they're good, they'll
give you all the they'll give you all the colors
and the brushes, right, But but you at the end
get to close that deal. And it's why I think
somebody like Beth, who has done everything you can think
of visually, you know, in the latter part of her career,
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or the second act of her career, as we'd like
to say, she's flourished and really embraced and realized that
this radio thing's been sitting over here all this time
that she hadn't tapped into. And it's because it it
accentuates those very things you like to read. It takes
the reading thing, and on the same level, you still
get to keep part of that to yourself well.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
And I think if you're if you're doing it well,
which I hope people think that Bo and I are
there because we are very much ourselves on the air.
There's so you know, if you're doing it well, you're
letting listeners be your friend. You're letting them in on
your soul, You're letting them in on your life and
your just your world. But then they get to interact
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with that world by what they create with their own imaginations.
You know, when we tell a story, they get to
visualize that story instead of and this is what I
call this meat suit that I wear. You know, that's
like my soul is buried in this meat suit. All
of this stuff doesn't you know, None of this stuff
really matters. It's the soul that really is the heart
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of what makes I think life so incredibly special and
what makes people connect. And because you and I connect
on a real human soul level, I think I hope
that that's what comes across to people and connects their
souls in some way to our souls, and then their
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imaginations become part of it. And that sounds kind of
woo woo maybe, but in reality, I just think that
that's all that life is really about. It's about the
soul of something.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Well. I've had a few people tell me this over
the years, because obviously I've been doing the morning show
for a while. I did thirteen years and then he
let me come in and.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
No, you came in. Get all up.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Now you see where I'm going here. I've had several
people along the way when we go talk to people
at events, say to me, since Beth got there, we
hear a side of you that we never heard before,
Like you have been able to sort of draw out
my personality in a way that I couldn't do by myself.
You know, there's a lot more of me that I
let out now that I'm doing a show with you. Now.
(23:46):
Part of that is because when you're solo, you're just
talking to yourself, right, But the other side of that
is I have somebody who I trust and somebody who
trusts me, and we will go down like it is
not unusual for I told you all this a lot,
even on this podcast. Now, how do you prepare for
this show? We have forty different ways we can go
that we're prepared to go when we sit down on
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a given day. We're never not prepared. We don't go
in and go all right, let's just see what happens.
That's not how it works. Now. What's great is is
when it sounds like we're that spontaneous when we go
down a certain road, because there's a just like it's
hard to write for someone's personality. It's hard to do
a show that you know that you've been planning on doing.
But it sounds like we just happened into that conversation.
(24:29):
If somebody tells me that, you know out in the
in the field, that's a great compliment. But I, you know,
you and I are pretty famous for having forty different
ways we can go. But then thirty seconds before a segment,
I'll get an idea and I'll look at Beth and
I say you trust me, right, and you're like yeah,
and you don't know where we're going?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
How we go?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
It did happen today? It is my favorite. It's my
favorite when he does that. It's my favorite thing to do.
And some people hate that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
What does that mean? It doesn't mean, hey, you know well,
in a way, it means, hey, come along this roller
coaster ride. You don't know where it's gonna land. What
it really means is, Beth, I've got something that I
got cooking up in my head. I know how this
is gonna go. Come along with me. And she says yes,
And I know that I can bring her along and
she will. She will fill on the blanks, she'll play
(25:20):
you know you don't You don't find that with a
partner very easily. So that's the biggest compliment I could
give to somebody. But the other compliment that I would
throw your way by way of me is people saying, hey,
you know you you allow a bit of your personality
to get out there now that that didn't wasn't part
of the show before. It's because I don't trust people
very easily. I don't like I'm a Steve Knows sitting
(25:42):
over there when you go in that room in the morning.
I I have a way that I do things, and
and they've let me do it for a long time now.
So it's I'm slow to bring more people into the mix.
But if I bring you into the mix, it's because
I trust you implicitly. And now we have that show
where all of us trust each other. And you know,
I feel like sometimes on this podcast we've gotten kind
(26:04):
of Pollyanna about things, and people may say, does anything
ever go wrong in that room?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, yeah. I mean there have been times when I
don't want to throw a brick at a wall. But
they know that too. We all sort of know where
everybody's boundaries are, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah, Well, for Bo when he says he wants to
throw a brick at a wall when things are going badly,
it's never the relationships in the room. It's the it's
technology is not working the way it's supposed to. Something
He has an idea in his mind of how he
wants music or a bumper or something to sound, and
it gets garbled or he presses the wrong button or
(26:37):
those are the things that he, you know, really gets
frustrated about. The ones that the times that I feel
frustrated is when I think that I haven't painted an
effective picture for somebody, when I haven't told the story
well enough that I think someone's imagination can be sparked,
or that someone's imagination might be interested. So it's the
(26:57):
weird thing is is that the it's rarely that we're
ever frustrated with one another. It's always that we're frustrated
with ourselves or technology or and the other really cool
thing about it, And Steve can attest to this most
of the time, especially now because we've been doing this
for so long. Even when those things happen, it becomes
(27:17):
a joke. It becomes an inside joke and we laugh
about it in the commercial breaks, or we make fun
of each other about it, you know that. Like it's
kind of like what we were saying in the Beach
podcast when when Bernie said, Hey, what sound do you
need and Jim was making fun of and it was like,
you know, why don't you just use an expletive? And
(27:40):
all of these things are inside jokes now, and we
say them like, boy, you really biffed that one, didn't you,
bath like you're just boy, you know you're an idiot,
or we make fun of how things are going and
how we recover. And that's the other really fun thing
about it is we don't mind being the butt of
the joke any of us.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
So hend And said in the original question, He's like, so,
when you go out and people recognize you, do you
hear your voice? Do you like that? Does that bother you? No?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I love that because if people are listening and to
closely enough that my voice is recognizable somewhere else, I
think that's pretty amazing. I think I'd probably rather be
recognized for my voice. And now I'm so far removed
from day to day television, daily television, where you might
see the news ads and me on TV every single
(28:34):
day that now if people recognize me by sight, it's
still kind of that why do I think I know you?
You know? And people will come up to me and
say that, They'll say, why do I know you who
are why why why do you look familiar? And I
never say like, oh, well, but because that'd be so weird,
and I'm like, I don't know, I don't know, Like
maybe are you from Concord? Did we get a school together?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
See if you work in TV? And when I worked
in TV, I would go eat dinner sometimes with some
of the anchors. And whenever I did that, it was
always an interesting experience because you feel like you're you're
in a terrarium or at a museum, sit at a table.
I'm like, oh, is that is that so and so
over there? And I remember thinking this is the huge
difference between TV and radio. Now the line has been
(29:17):
blurred a little bit again, kind of here we are
on a podcast that's on video. The management would love
us to be on video, as you know all the time.
But I'll be honest with you. One of the reasons
I've always liked radio is because I can go in
and I can do a four hour show, and then
I can leave it there and I can go out
and get in my car and most people would see me,
(29:39):
wouldn't know I was the guy that was on the radio. TV.
It's there like Beth Troutman is Beth Troutman. But with me,
you know, there's a part of me I'm not and
you guys know this, and I talk about this. I'm
I kind of like being alone, Like I'm not a
guy that needs to have people around me all the time.
In fact, if I don't get my alone time and
my soul low time and just kind of away from stuff,
(30:03):
then I get exhausted. That starts working against me. Like
I like to I do the show. My kids used
to joke and they would say, uh, Dad used up
all his words today because I come in and we
we I mean we talk talk talk talk talk. I'll
see people, you know, friends like, what's it like to
talk for a living all day long? I say, well,
you know, it's it's pretty Uh, it's it's it's I mean,
(30:26):
it's it's rapid fire for four hours. But when that
is over, I'm ready to listen for a while.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
And and by the time, especially by the time you
get to Friday, Like I'm a really good listener On Friday,
I may fall asleep, but I'm a really good listener
because I love to talk and I love to have
our conversations. But I also really value the okay, turn
the mic off, turn the camera off, and go off
and just live life. And and that's why you guys
make fun of me sometimes about how, you know, I
(30:54):
just very I'm very content just hanging out.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
With bo I'm an introvert by nature too. I have
to recharge in the quiet. I have to recharge kind
of alone. I have that same, that same tendency. But
even when I was television, I did. I kind of
floated through life. I don't know that I noticed a
whole lot if if if I don't know that I
ever felt like I was in a terrarium. I just
(31:19):
assumed no one was watching, you know. I always just
assumed my mom was the only person who was watching
anything that I was doing well.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
And I think to be good at what you're doing,
you have to sort of have an ability to to
shrink it, to shrink your audience. Because I think if
you always think about okay in radio or TV, if
you if you actually could see people sitting in an
audience that are listening to a station the size of WBT,
or a station the size of WC and C, or
(31:47):
even the syndicated shows you're on, it would you know
because speaking on a stage in front of a bunch
of people's a completely different thing. Yeah, like we both
have done it, but it's not your native habitat. Now,
the native habitat is basically doing this right here, just
talking to each other, and you forget about the people listening,
and I think you probably do yourself. I'm more of
a service to forget because we always have the joke
(32:09):
about the show. You know, we have microphones. We don't
realize they're on. It's not untrue, it really isn't. But
I think if you're going to talk real and talk
as if you would talk when everything's off, then you
have to be able to sort of pretend that that's
the way it is. When the light song.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
You can't be guarded. You can't be guarded and worried
about judgment, I think is probably the biggest thing, because
if you're thinking, we're just talking to each other, we
know that we're in a safe space because you know
I'm not going to judge you, and I know that
you're not going to judge me, and I think we
operate in that realm and then sometimes we get interrupted
by not interrupted, that's the wrong word, but sometimes we
do get judgment from from people who are listening, and
(32:51):
they'll you know.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
You want some judgment, I'll give you some judgment. So
we got some judgment from today because I don't want
you all to think that all we ever do is
talk about how things are per because it's never in
any situation. But we want to get real on this podcast.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
But if you want to hear us give some judgment
on the air too. We talked about Mary Lee about
two fridays ago.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
So I get done with the show today and I
got an email from a guy named Sheldon, and he says,
is there a time during your morning broadcast that I
can get traditional news? I grew up listening to the
radio for morning news during the day in the car.
I get the different personalities in their programs. Thanks, but
essentially saying, you guys didn't have enough news in your
program and talk you talk too much and today truth
(33:33):
be told. What I said when we were done. Today
was one of those days where there weren't like numerous dominant,
obvious top stories. We didn't have. We had one guest
today and it was Emily Ratliffe about Claire's Army. We
on a normal day, I'd say average we probably have
what two to three guests, Steve, that's pretty far for
(33:56):
the course, Yeah, give or take.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
I mean, you know, again on and as an hour average,
I mean there's days where we've had five six people on,
and then there's days where we don't have anybody. But yeah,
I would say as an average two to three. Yeah,
during a normal four hour show, and.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
We'll have political guests, and like we have a politic
on Wednesdays now we have a political analyst who is
a political science professor, and we cover headlines a great
deal with those guests, guests like mcmulvaney, and we get
into the meat of.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Tough headlines, and you know, Monday, Mondays and parts of
Tuesdays and Fridays we have regular final hour guests. You know.
So what I'm getting at here is today was a
different kind of show. We don't have shows like today
very often where it was kind of a we It
(34:45):
was one of those days where we have, Okay, there's
a bunch of things we've been meaning to talk to
and meaning to get to and we finally have time
to do it, and now we have the text line
that sort of you know, you're interactive, you can help.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Us too, and I love it.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
And then there are days where they have breaking news.
You know, a couple of days ago, Rory Cooper announced
he was running for governor in the middle of the show.
A couple of days ago, we had the shooting that
had just happened the night before and was still developing
in New York City, the tsunami that we thought might
be a thing but ended not being, thankfully as big
with the earthquake that happened overnight. There are days when
(35:19):
we get in and the breaking news takes over the
show when it needs to. But today, at the end
of the show, after a very unusual day of sort
of we had the time to move around and get
to some things that we've been putting off.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
I loved today's show.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Well I did too, But it goes to show you
it's the kind of thing where I get an email
like that and I'm thinking, well, yes, we do a
lot of we do. First of all, we do news
every thirty minutes with Mark, and you know the way
Beth and I operate, sometimes we do extensions of what
Mark talks about. If it's the biggest story that everybody's
talking about. We sort of live in that a lot.
(35:54):
But then there's a listener out there who listened to
the show today and said, do you all ever do
local news? Like, when did you stop doing local news?
I missed that. I'm thinking we did it. We did
it every half hour today, But did you listen to
the Tuesday or Monday show? And then you do a
Monday show where you sort of live in a breaking
news story. You guys have beat this horse to death.
(36:17):
You know, that's the world you live in when you
do a four hour show every day, And we sort
of have to understand that. But sometimes when I've listened
back to some of the podcasts we've done so far,
we talk a lot about how great the room is
and how much we love our team and how and
it's it is all great, But I want to be
real on this and say, you know, we get people
who who are have complaints and I like to address
(36:39):
those too, because the whole point of doing this podcast
in the beginning was to be Okay, let's finish the show,
let's go down to the basement, and let's sort of
kind of tell you everything that's going on that you
don't hear on the air necessarily.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
And we had a message on the text line today,
a guy said his name was Tim Cruise, not Tom Cruise,
but Tim Cruise said that my laugh and my voice
that I could call turkeys, that if I went turkey hunting,
I could call turkeys. And at first, you know, I
wrote him back and I was like, I'm not sure
if this means that you like my laugh or you
hate my laugh. And I never read his response really back,
(37:13):
and he wrote delightful, multiple responses and he wasn't being
insulting at all, and he was like I really think.
He was like, you could make a lot of money.
I like your left, but you could make a lot
of money calling turkeys, and then offered to train me
to call turkey. Says you could be a turkey guide.
And I was thinking, you know, that might be my
third act. I might have Tim train me and I'm
going to call turkeys. But it's interesting too because it's
(37:35):
a text line. It's and we're getting to interact with
people in real time. Sometimes you don't know if people
are saying nice things. There's this one lady Arlene, I
love her. I love her, and she had emailed before
and now that she has the text line, she texts
more and sometimes she doesn't like how happy I am,
or she doesn't like that I laugh, or she she
says that I interrupt you bo. But at the same time,
(37:56):
she's delightful I mean, and I mean delightful in all
of the best ways, and always interacts. And today sent
me these like funny like thumbs up emojis because she
and I were talking back and forth about sour Kraut.
And I love it because it's it's genuine interaction. And
I don't mind constructive criticism, and I don't mind at
(38:16):
all the people who want to hear more or less.
And I also love the lovely, sweet kind messages.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
There's an old adage in this business, or really any
kind of show business. It's great to be loved. It's
okay to be hated. The thing you don't want to
be is ignored or be considered indifferent to something right,
you know, you don't want to be boring, like like,
I'm fine that we know that the show that we
do is it's going to be some people's cup of tea,
(38:46):
some not. And then some days versus other days. I
got a note, we got a note. We have a
guy that texts or no, it's an email emails us
name is Thomas. Every time that Pat McCrory's on the show,
every time, just about every time that that Nick mulvaney's
on the show. Tom there are a couple of sort
(39:07):
of button issues for him that will always make him
email the show. And when he emails the show ninety
nine percent of the time, it's like a it's a
laundry list of things that we did wrong that segment,
and you know, it's always like and he always ends
it saying sorry, period, and yeah, like sorry, you have
to I've got to break the reality of the world
(39:29):
to you. And we've been getting those.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
For years, I mean ever since I've been here.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yeah, and before that, because when I used to do
the show with McCrory, we got it a lot too.
But here's how I sort of like, it's almost like
he's sort of curmudgeonly about it, but he's our curmudgeon
and he's always listening. And so yesterday, yesterday, he sent
us a note about a bunch of things he didn't
like it about but what we said and how we
were wrong. And I sent him a note back and
(39:55):
I just said, Thomas, thanks for always listening. Yes In
the spirit of what I was saying was, you know, Thomas,
as much as you seem to find fault with things
that we do, gosh darn it, you're there every day.
He's so loyal and he is and you know what
he sent us back, nicest note, and he said, actually,
(40:18):
there are just a few things that you do that
I don't like that I point out to you, But
here are all the things I did. And I did
not at all expect to get that from him.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
When at first both thought he was being like I did.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I read it to Beth and I said, do you
think this is like a sort of passive aggressive like
ohh and and so I said, well, you know what
I said that was that was really cool because it
was genuine. I didn't think that that was a guy
that we could ever. I didn't think it was a
guy that really found much positive because look, we welcome,
(40:50):
we welcome, as Beth said, the good and the bad.
But when you get the bad, like fifty nine times,
you start thinking he must must must not be any
good there. I'll just talk that one up, the one
that he's gonna listen, but he's not gonna enjoy what
he's listening to, so I wonder why he keeps listening,
but there's I guess there must be something there, and
then you find out that it is. So you know,
(41:12):
this is good today because we've gotten into some of
the we have. We got people out there that love
to tell us what we're doing wrong. The best is
when you can sort of get someone like that and
then you see the crack one day we're like, oh,
there's actually there was actually something good that they like too,
because something's keeping them coming back.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
That's what I love because it's real. It's a three
hundred and sixty degree interaction. Because no human experience is
all positive, all negative, at least you hope it's not
all negative. But the human experience is complex and the
fact that we get to have these interactions with people
and we get to see the complexity of personalities, they
(41:51):
get to know the complexity of ours, and we see
we get the good and the bad, like Arlene, like Thomas,
the will tell us like man, y'all really miss the
mark today or at the same time, oh man, you
really had me laughing, And I went into my day
with a much better, you know, feeling about how the
day was going to be and all of those things
can coexist. And the fact that we are just being
(42:15):
who we are and don't have you know, any we're
not being guarded about ourselves. We can have those kinds
of relationships with our listeners and now with the text
line and even better and you know, more real time.
It's great. It is such a it's such a gift
because sometimes the the the the not arguments, but the
(42:37):
disagreements in life sometimes bring you closer together. And if
you have any kind of real special relationship with anybody,
you know that to be true. And I think it
makes it even more special with our listeners. If you
have disagreements about things, but you still find your way
back to each other. It's like marriage, you know, it's
like friendships, all of those things. You can have disagreements,
but you find yourself you find your way back to
(42:58):
each other because it means something I disagree, but you
mean something. Bo Hopefully, this what a random the seventeenth
segment today, but thank you. We were going to get
to other questions that people ask, but we spent the
entire time on Hindon. Hinden, we love you, and I
had my phone up here just for Hindon.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Yeah, see I mean this is this is authentic. We
have our phones right here. So has anybody called and
complained since we've been.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
On listening yet it's not been hurted yet. Tell us
when you're listening to the podcast, and we love you,
We love hearing from you, and we love it when
it's like random times of the day like three am.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
It might be right now, this day seems so long.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
And drop a thumbs up and subscribe. And you know
you guys have to yeah, we have to continue to add.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
To sure yourself. Where's your cute little face? Steve here?
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Here? I am there?
Speaker 1 (43:46):
He is, all right, y'all. We'll be back for episode nine,
we hope, unless we get canceled.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Listen to Good Morning DT, Bo Thompson and Beth Troutman
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It was like two months since we were last doing this.
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Well?
Speaker 3 (00:06):
I was gone last week. That's why I was.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I was time stops when Beth is gone.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome to the seventeen segment, an official podcast, A good
morning beat.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
By the way, have we started?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I think, sir? I think here we are episode eight
of seven of the seventeenth segment.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Which if you're thinking about movies, which I always do, like,
what does it correlate to, what's the what's a what's
an episode eight you can think of?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
And the furious is there are there eight of those?
I don't know there's ten now?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
So yeah, no, you're good. Yeah, there wasn't up in
the same decade. Come on, come on, Steve.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
This academy only six, they were only six. Stopped at seven,
there were only seven.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Friday the Thirteenth, Part eight, Jason takes Manhattan?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Did he do?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Like?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Did he take? In a couple of shows?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
And I've never made it to the end because it's
just so terrible.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
I don't think I've ever seen a Friday the Thirteenth
movie straight through it.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Oh day, Yeah no, I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
They dal imaged me as a kid.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
They here damaged me I remember, like I was at
summer camp. Somehow we can escape summer camp. This week,
summer camp came up on the morning show, The Regular Show,
and I spent a long time at summer camp. Beth
actually was doing a documentary at a camp last week.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Last week, I was at a summer camp for young
kids who have cancer and their siblings and they get
to go for free.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
But as we learned today, she also went to a
grown up camp a few years ago, like not that long,
like twenty nineteen. And this became a whole thing on
the show, because why would it not. I mean, when
you find out that Beth went to a grown up camp,
I'm working really hard not to say adult camp.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Because adult camp sounds strange, right, It sounds weird, like
an adult shop or something.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Anything you've attached adult to. Like every time I talk
about the intimate bookshop, well it used to be at
South Park, Everybody's like, kind of was that right, I'm like,
it was in the middle of the mall. How intimate
was Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
It was not. It was just a regular bookshop. But yeah,
that's what adult camp. I went to a police called
Camppowerment because someone told me about it. And my, my, My.
The way that I try to approach life is I
try to say yes to things that are kind of
outside of my comfort zone. Things that scare me are
things that we've made.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
This, I said yes to this.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I said, Beth, let's do a show. She said, Okay, yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Let's see what this is. Like I've never done radio,
but let's let's see.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
What this two podcast in the basement. Yes, Yes, do you.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Want to go to summer camp at the Poconos with
a whole bunch of women you've never met? No?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Absolutely you did. And so we talked about that today.
That and so camp keeps sort of coming back in.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yes, which Friday the thirteenth was originally set at camp,
which it Maybe that's why I didn't go to camp
as a young kid. I think I was afraid that
that Jason and Mike Mike Meyer was Mike Myers, We're
gonna come out of the lake.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Well, see, I went to camp, and then I remember
a kid at camp telling me about Friday the thirteenth.
So I heard about all the different they're like, I
don't know, they're like twelve of them now. But the
very early ones were set in a camp.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Very Halloween was too, right, was Halloween?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Mike Myers no night?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
No, but Camp Crystal Lake was Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Didn't Mike Myer die? Mygers die in a lake? And
like at camp, didn't the kids that camp kill him?
That's all Jason, That's all Jason.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yes, Mike Myers was in Illinois in a town on Halloween.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Night, Okay, which is why it's called Halloween.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Breddy Krueger had the big, big night.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I know, Freddy Krueger.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, because he haunted people's dreams, well nightmares technically, well do.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
You remember do you remember? Uh, the third one?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
You know, the dream doc in Dream Warriors dock In.
A lot of people think that's the best.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
One, that's the best song from one of the songs,
But the first one is by far the best one
because it's the most horrifying because you don't get the
full You don't really see a lot of Freddy, at
least you don't see his full face lit up.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Same reason Jaws. The first one works is because you
actually see the least amount of the shark in the
first one, and you have to imagine what must really
be there. You know, all these horror movies and like
the fourth Jaws that the shark chases them to the Bahamas.
She's just so dumb. But then as you get to
part eight, which is why I'm talking about this at all.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, we just went down a rabbit hole froday.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
The thirteenth Part eight is Jason Takes Manhattan. So I
have no idea what that means as it relates to this.
I just that's a number eight that I can think of.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Well, hopefully this won't be as bad as that film was.
But we asked at the end of our show today
today being Wednesday, Thursday July thirtieth. It is Thursday, July thirtieth,
So if you want to go back and listen to
today's show and the camp conversation and all of that,
you can find it on the WBT website or wherever
you get your podcast Good Morning BT. But we asked
people to text us on our new text line seven
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oh four five, seven oh eleven ten, which again, we
love it if you text us and let us know
when you're listening to the seventeenth segment, whatever time of
day it is. We like getting the time stamp. But
we ask people to ask us questions and as always
you delivered.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
The other thing about telling us when you're listening is,
you know, if it's if it's during a random part
of the day when somebody else's shows on, it like
basically tells them, oh, we're still thinking about that morning show.
I don't care what you're talking about. Hey, just kidding.
I'm just kidding. So Hendon, who actually is the guy
that texted the show? If you were listening earlier today
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or whenever you listen to the podcast, it's the Thursday show.
Hendon called in because we were talking about famous voices.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, and I was asking about we people know and
recognize a lot of male voices. And I was just
wondering whose female voices? What what female voices are intriguing
to people or or are recognizable to people.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
So he texted us and said that he is married
to Kelly Myers, who is She used to be a
personality on one oh seven point nine and in our building.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
He first fell in love with her voice before he
ever met her. He fell in love with her voice,
which is so cool.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And I said on the air, and I'll tell you
again here I didn't know very well, but you know,
we passed in the Hall sometimes and every once in
a while we're part of a you know, station project
or multiple station product project. And she has a great voice.
She's the one if you listen to our promos that
says your emergency situation station. And she used to be
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on the IDs. I don't think she is anymore. Always
really liked her voice, and it's just funny. I was
thinking about her voice the other day and then Hendon
texts the show. So here's his follow up question, because
we asked four questions for this, and he said, seventeenth
segment question, what is the hardest part of being on
the radio? Beth? People might recognize you from your TV time,
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but do you ever get that cashier at Walmart or
wherever that just goes Your voice seems so familiar. Is
it hard to just be a voice? I feel like
on TV we think of hosts as people, but radio
we tend to think of hosts as only one aspect,
when in reality, you're so much more.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Wow, that's a really thoughtful, really thoughtful question.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Now we will answer all seventeen of those questions. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Well, the funny thing about all of the years I
spent on television, I sometimes got recognized even when I
was on television for my voice, because out and about
in the real world, I'll very often, you know, have
my hair and a bun on top of my head
and no makeup on and workout close, you know, and
people might think you look vaguely familiar, but they think
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that maybe they've seen you at the grocery store before,
or maybe you're a person that they have, you've waited
on their table, or you've been at the dry cleaners together,
and they just kind of recognize you. Is that weird?
But still to now, yes, people do say people do
hear my voice and that I have a couple of
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times in the last just in the last couple of months,
I've had people say hear my voice and say are
you Are you Beth Troutman?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
And on they say, are you that Beth Troutman.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
But I love I love that something like my that
they might recognize the I think there's something kind of
intimate about and I don't mean intimate like the intimate bookshop,
but I mean intimate about recognizing someone by their their voice.
I think it's the thing that hindon I'm answering this
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to you that I I love about this is that
radio is only voice, and it's only your personality and
ideas and kind of the way your mind works and
the way that you communicate, whereas with television, so much
of it is such a visual medium that when I
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was in TV, the majority of the emails and messages
I got from from viewers were about my physical appearance,
and oftentimes incredibly cruel, you know, whether they didn't like
my hair, they had a problem with my makeup, or
with whatever I was wearing. And it was very rarely,
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I very rarely got a lot of comments about the
content of stories that I created, or stories I was telling,
or the things that I was working really hard on.
And sometimes it really broke my heart, and really it
kind of wore on me some of the time. Because
they're also with television, there are appearance clauses in contracts,
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and I couldn't do things like cut my hair without
permission from management, or you know, color change the color
of my hair, or I had to they gave us
makeup to orioles, And you're just kind of constantly having
to focus on things that I just didn't want to
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be focused on. And I think I started getting really
sad when other people were really focused on those things
as well.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
And I get it.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It's a visual medium and we're visual animals, and it's
just kind of the way the world works. But I
actually kind of love the fact that radio is just
the personality.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
And so.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
For me, that's the easiest thing about radio because I
don't know, it's given me so much freedom because I
don't have to think, I don't have to think about it,
and I don't have management coming into the studio to say, Beth,
you need to powder your nose, your nose is shiny,
or you know, like which all of those things happened
to me.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Well, the ironic thing about TV, and you were in
TV longer than me, but I was in TV for
three years, truth be told, is because I was in
one radio job here. I left here and then went
and worked for another radio station for four or five years,
and then when the economy tanked in two thousand and eight,
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it disbanded. It was not the long tenured station that
we work for now. This was sort of an upstart
thing that I was sort of intrigued by going and
kind of trying to build something. If you remember Danny Fontana,
I worked for him for several years and he had
a good thing going for a while. Then the financing
fell through, and suddenly in two thousand and eight, I
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was on the beach, as they say, I was out
looking for work and none of the traditional radio places,
including here that I went and you know, asked about jobs,
and they didn't have anything. So my next course of
action was to, Okay, I know a guy, a couple
of people who work at a TV station here in town.
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They're old radio guys, and that made the transition. So
they got me an interview and I went and got
a job there. But the ironic thing is is that
I learned in three years working primarily behind the scenes
in TV. You see someone on TV and you watch
them all the time, but you get very very little
of the real person who they are, because first of all,
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it's so scripted. TV segments are short, and they're also
written by other people. Like nine times out of ten,
when you see somebody talking on television, especially in a
new local news setting, they're not talking to you like
we're talking to you right now. They're reading words that
somebody else wrote. I know because my job was to
write those words well.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
And I used to say to any of my co
hosts that I used to work with in television. I
used to say, like, man, I'm so bored. I'm just
I'm just reading out loud. And I used to sing
this song Bill mcintee, if you're watching the seventeenth segment,
we had so much fun. We'd gotten into shenan against
all the time. But I would go, as I'm walking
into the studio, I had this little song that I
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would seeing as we were walking in, I would say,
it's that time in the time to read news out
loud again. I think it drove my bosses crazy, but
it's kind of what you're doing, and you don't get
to know two.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Years ago or three years ago, this conversation might have
went Wow. Now I'm like, yep, that's pretty much what
I would think it would do.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
So when you don't get to access all the parts
of your personality and and the majority of it is
mostly negative stuff, I didn't. I mean, you know me
so well. Now can you imagine my soul and being
so boxed in in that kind of setting. Can you
imagine how sad I must have been.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Oh, I can't believe you did it as long as
you did. But but you also here's the thing about TV,
and I did well as a TV producer because now
I didn't I didn't do a news show. I did
if you remember, I think they I don't think it's
still on the air anymore. I know if it is,
it's not in the same form it used to be.
But WCCB, when we were there, it was called Fox Charlotte.
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But they had a show called The Edge, and that's
where it started, right. So the Edge was and this
is part of the reason why they hired me in
the first place, because I was kind of a I
lived in the middle of both worlds. What The Edge
was was a show that came on after the traditional newscast.
That was two hosts and they varied over the years.
Started out with Morgan Fogerty and brother Fred, but it
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was too close.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
When I was doing it, it was Mark Mathis and
Ashley Anderson.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yes, that's what that's where it started with me, and
then Beth was Beth and I did not cross paths
there like two ships going like yeah, because it was
really close.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, so close.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
But what I'm getting at is the reason I worked
there and reason they liked me is because I because
The Edge was a radio show on TV. That's what
it was. And so basically what my job was was
to write copy for them to sound like they were
talking like you and me are right now.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And writing conversationally. That is a skill that you have
to know the person you're writing for so well in
order to try to write in their voice.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Now, this show was set up so that what I
was writing were the jump off points. In other words,
we'd set up the story.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Right and lib it would say ad lib in parentheses.
Now I did the show I started. My very first
TV appearance was on the Edge.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But see you and me, you had not done radio
yet then, but I had lived in radio. So when
I see ad lib, I'm like, yeah, I'm all about that.
When you write ad lib on the screen to someone
who's never worked in radio before and has just used
to reading a teleprompter, those are the two scary, scariest
words you've ever heard ad lib?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Have you ever? I mean, I know that everyone has
watched a newscast the times, in a normal newscast, not
a show like the Edge, but like a six o'clock newscast.
The time that they write ad lib in parentheses is
it's always the weather toss and the weather toss back.
And that's why it's always so awkward when they're just like, yeah,
it's gonna be, it's gonna be sunny tomorrow, right, Yeah,
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it's gonna be. It's good. Nicely put on your jacket,
you know, because it's the only time you get to
ad lib. But how many times can you say a
sentence that's interesting, you know, about that same topic. And
it was the only time that we could possibly let
our our personalities out. I often let my personality out,
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and I every time I did, I kind of got
in trouble.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
This is the first job you've ever had in broadcasting
where you don't get in trouble for your personality coming out.
In fact, it's encouraged.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Well, And I don't know if it was surprising to
people who maybe had watched Fox News Rising when I
did the morning show for Fox that it was a
little more loosey goosey because half the time our teleprompter
wasn't working anyway, so I would just get to chat
with guests and have conversations, and I was a little
I got to be a little more myself in that realm.
And then after after that, everything got a little a
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little more, a little more scripted. And although I guess
right this minute was all ad lib it was all
but it was ad libbing about videos. It was ad
libbing about a specific topic.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
So back to the question about well, no, I mean,
do we get down a rabbit hole? But he knew that,
he knew this was going to go there? Who knew
that was going to happen? Yes? Right? But but the
question what I was getting at is is it's ironic
that TV. You watch somebody on TV and you see
what they look like, and you watch them every day,
but you get to know very very little of who
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they are because they're not allowed to talk for very long,
and even when they do talk, it's scripted. Radio is
the complete opposite. Radio Now it's changed a little bit.
When I was a kid, I remember the first time
I ever came out to WBT and I met people
that I had been listening to as a kid. You
didn't see them the way you do today because we
didn't have you know, the internet, we didn't have the
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phone today. If you work in radio management, and this
is pretty par for the course, wherever you go, they
want you to do some sort of video component Hi, here, we.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Are, here, we are that's what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
But but you know what I mean, Like in the
old days, the days of yr if you listen to
the radio. Part of the thing with radio is you
would listen to somebody and you would sort of decide
in your head what they look like. And I remember
the first time I met Henry Bogan, who used to
do a talk show at night here back in the seventies, eighties,
early nineties. I remember the first time I saw him,
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and it was jarring because it's not what I thought
he looked like.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
And you had created an image in your head for
however many years you had been listening, and suddenly the
image changed. That's I think. That's the other thing that
I love about radio is that it is intimate and
it also requires a little bit of imagination. I kind
of wish that I had grown up in a time
where people didn't sit around the television. They listened to
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the stories the performances on radio. And it's like reading
a book. And you guys, know, if you listened to
the show, you know I love to read.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
That's exactly where I was headed.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
That's cussing. I love creating the story in my head.
I get to picture the characters, I get to picture
the backdrop, I get to picture the and it's and
it's mine, and it's only mine because no one else
can see it. And I think that's what feels intimate
about radio and maybe why I love it more than television,
even though I love creating things like documentaries and the
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visual imagery that goes along with that, But like the
I'm gonna say this and the beauty pageant part of television,
it's just not appealing to me at all. And it
probably is because of how I grew up and just
kind of this constant as a female, just this constant
pressure of looking a certain way and adhering to a
certain standard and and and being the right weight and
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the right size, and the right clothes and the right makeup,
the right hair and all of that is just it's
so not important. It's just so not a focus. It's
not anything I want to focus on. And again, I
know that people live and we live in a visual world,
and that that people are are visual, but it's not
what matters. You know, this is this we live in.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
But I think people overplay that because if that were
totally true, that it's all about visual, then the medium
that we live in every day wouldn't still be viable.
Because I'll tell you this the best. If look TV,
it can do many wonderful things. And it's great to
be able to watch a ball game on TV. But
if you listen, if you take take an iconic game
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that you can think of of a sporting event that
you watch. Maybe it's the Carolina Ascent, I don't know
it should be, but think of a famous game. And
then if you take the play by play that you
would hear on TV while you're watching it versus what
you hear on the radio. A radio play by play
person has to paint the picture. They have to give
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you all the tools. And to me, it's night and day.
It's not even close the two mediums. And I'm not
knocking TV, but I think people are. I mean, you
look at what's happening with podcasts. We're on one right now.
Audio is not dead. Audio has just evolved. And the
beautiful thing about audio is much like reading a book,
there's still that element of it where you get to
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sort of decide in your own head the way certain
things are. Now. The person on the on the radio
helps you paint that picture, and if they're good, they'll
give you all the they'll give you all the colors
and the brushes, right, But but you at the end
get to close that deal. And it's why I think
somebody like Beth, who has done everything you can think
of visually, you know, in the latter part of her career,
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or the second act of her career, as we'd like
to say, she's flourished and really embraced and realized that
this radio thing's been sitting over here all this time
that she hadn't tapped into. And it's because it it
accentuates those very things you like to read. It takes
the reading thing, and on the same level, you still
get to keep part of that to yourself well.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
And I think if you're if you're doing it well,
which I hope people think that Bo and I are
there because we are very much ourselves on the air.
There's so you know, if you're doing it well, you're
letting listeners be your friend. You're letting them in on
your soul, You're letting them in on your life and
your just your world. But then they get to interact
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with that world by what they create with their own imaginations.
You know, when we tell a story, they get to
visualize that story instead of and this is what I
call this meat suit that I wear. You know, that's
like my soul is buried in this meat suit. All
of this stuff doesn't you know, None of this stuff
really matters. It's the soul that really is the heart
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of what makes I think life so incredibly special and
what makes people connect. And because you and I connect
on a real human soul level, I think I hope
that that's what comes across to people and connects their
souls in some way to our souls, and then their
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imaginations become part of it. And that sounds kind of
woo woo maybe, but in reality, I just think that
that's all that life is really about. It's about the
soul of something.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Well. I've had a few people tell me this over
the years, because obviously I've been doing the morning show
for a while. I did thirteen years and then he
let me come in and.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
No, you came in. Get all up.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Now you see where I'm going here. I've had several
people along the way when we go talk to people
at events, say to me, since Beth got there, we
hear a side of you that we never heard before,
Like you have been able to sort of draw out
my personality in a way that I couldn't do by myself.
You know, there's a lot more of me that I
let out now that I'm doing a show with you. Now.
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Part of that is because when you're solo, you're just
talking to yourself, right, But the other side of that
is I have somebody who I trust and somebody who
trusts me, and we will go down like it is
not unusual for I told you all this a lot,
even on this podcast. Now, how do you prepare for
this show? We have forty different ways we can go
that we're prepared to go when we sit down on
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a given day. We're never not prepared. We don't go
in and go all right, let's just see what happens.
That's not how it works. Now. What's great is is
when it sounds like we're that spontaneous when we go
down a certain road, because there's a just like it's
hard to write for someone's personality. It's hard to do
a show that you know that you've been planning on doing.
But it sounds like we just happened into that conversation.
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If somebody tells me that, you know out in the
in the field, that's a great compliment. But I, you know,
you and I are pretty famous for having forty different
ways we can go. But then thirty seconds before a segment,
I'll get an idea and I'll look at Beth and
I say you trust me, right, and you're like yeah,
and you don't know where we're going?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
How we go?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
It did happen today? It is my favorite. It's my
favorite when he does that. It's my favorite thing to do.
And some people hate that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
What does that mean? It doesn't mean, hey, you know well,
in a way, it means, hey, come along this roller
coaster ride. You don't know where it's gonna land. What
it really means is, Beth, I've got something that I
got cooking up in my head. I know how this
is gonna go. Come along with me. And she says yes,
And I know that I can bring her along and
she will. She will fill on the blanks, she'll play
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you know you don't You don't find that with a
partner very easily. So that's the biggest compliment I could
give to somebody. But the other compliment that I would
throw your way by way of me is people saying, hey,
you know you you allow a bit of your personality
to get out there now that that didn't wasn't part
of the show before. It's because I don't trust people
very easily. I don't like I'm a Steve Knows sitting
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over there when you go in that room in the morning.
I I have a way that I do things, and
and they've let me do it for a long time now.
So it's I'm slow to bring more people into the mix.
But if I bring you into the mix, it's because
I trust you implicitly. And now we have that show
where all of us trust each other. And you know,
I feel like sometimes on this podcast we've gotten kind
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of Pollyanna about things, and people may say, does anything
ever go wrong in that room?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, yeah. I mean there have been times when I
don't want to throw a brick at a wall. But
they know that too. We all sort of know where
everybody's boundaries are, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah, Well, for Bo when he says he wants to
throw a brick at a wall when things are going badly,
it's never the relationships in the room. It's the it's
technology is not working the way it's supposed to. Something
He has an idea in his mind of how he
wants music or a bumper or something to sound, and
it gets garbled or he presses the wrong button or
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those are the things that he, you know, really gets
frustrated about. The ones that the times that I feel
frustrated is when I think that I haven't painted an
effective picture for somebody, when I haven't told the story
well enough that I think someone's imagination can be sparked,
or that someone's imagination might be interested. So it's the
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weird thing is is that the it's rarely that we're
ever frustrated with one another. It's always that we're frustrated
with ourselves or technology or and the other really cool
thing about it, And Steve can attest to this most
of the time, especially now because we've been doing this
for so long. Even when those things happen, it becomes
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a joke. It becomes an inside joke and we laugh
about it in the commercial breaks, or we make fun
of each other about it, you know that. Like it's
kind of like what we were saying in the Beach
podcast when when Bernie said, Hey, what sound do you
need and Jim was making fun of and it was like,
you know, why don't you just use an expletive? And
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all of these things are inside jokes now, and we
say them like, boy, you really biffed that one, didn't you,
bath like you're just boy, you know you're an idiot,
or we make fun of how things are going and
how we recover. And that's the other really fun thing
about it is we don't mind being the butt of
the joke any of us.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
So hend And said in the original question, He's like, so,
when you go out and people recognize you, do you
hear your voice? Do you like that? Does that bother you? No?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I love that because if people are listening and to
closely enough that my voice is recognizable somewhere else, I
think that's pretty amazing. I think I'd probably rather be
recognized for my voice. And now I'm so far removed
from day to day television, daily television, where you might
see the news ads and me on TV every single
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day that now if people recognize me by sight, it's
still kind of that why do I think I know you?
You know? And people will come up to me and
say that, They'll say, why do I know you who
are why why why do you look familiar? And I
never say like, oh, well, but because that'd be so weird,
and I'm like, I don't know, I don't know, Like
maybe are you from Concord? Did we get a school together?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
See if you work in TV? And when I worked
in TV, I would go eat dinner sometimes with some
of the anchors. And whenever I did that, it was
always an interesting experience because you feel like you're you're
in a terrarium or at a museum, sit at a table.
I'm like, oh, is that is that so and so
over there? And I remember thinking this is the huge
difference between TV and radio. Now the line has been
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blurred a little bit again, kind of here we are
on a podcast that's on video. The management would love
us to be on video, as you know all the time.
But I'll be honest with you. One of the reasons
I've always liked radio is because I can go in
and I can do a four hour show, and then
I can leave it there and I can go out
and get in my car and most people would see me,
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wouldn't know I was the guy that was on the radio. TV.
It's there like Beth Troutman is Beth Troutman. But with me,
you know, there's a part of me I'm not and
you guys know this, and I talk about this. I'm
I kind of like being alone, Like I'm not a
guy that needs to have people around me all the time.
In fact, if I don't get my alone time and
my soul low time and just kind of away from stuff,
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then I get exhausted. That starts working against me. Like
I like to I do the show. My kids used
to joke and they would say, uh, Dad used up
all his words today because I come in and we
we I mean we talk talk talk talk talk. I'll
see people, you know, friends like, what's it like to
talk for a living all day long? I say, well,
you know, it's it's pretty Uh, it's it's it's I mean,
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it's it's rapid fire for four hours. But when that
is over, I'm ready to listen for a while.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
And and by the time, especially by the time you
get to Friday, Like I'm a really good listener On Friday,
I may fall asleep, but I'm a really good listener
because I love to talk and I love to have
our conversations. But I also really value the okay, turn
the mic off, turn the camera off, and go off
and just live life. And and that's why you guys
make fun of me sometimes about how, you know, I
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just very I'm very content just hanging out.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
With bo I'm an introvert by nature too. I have
to recharge in the quiet. I have to recharge kind
of alone. I have that same, that same tendency. But
even when I was television, I did. I kind of
floated through life. I don't know that I noticed a
whole lot if if if I don't know that I
ever felt like I was in a terrarium. I just
(31:19):
assumed no one was watching, you know. I always just
assumed my mom was the only person who was watching
anything that I was doing well.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
And I think to be good at what you're doing,
you have to sort of have an ability to to
shrink it, to shrink your audience. Because I think if
you always think about okay in radio or TV, if
you if you actually could see people sitting in an
audience that are listening to a station the size of WBT,
or a station the size of WC and C, or
(31:47):
even the syndicated shows you're on, it would you know
because speaking on a stage in front of a bunch
of people's a completely different thing. Yeah, like we both
have done it, but it's not your native habitat. Now,
the native habitat is basically doing this right here, just
talking to each other, and you forget about the people listening,
and I think you probably do yourself. I'm more of
a service to forget because we always have the joke
(32:09):
about the show. You know, we have microphones. We don't
realize they're on. It's not untrue, it really isn't. But
I think if you're going to talk real and talk
as if you would talk when everything's off, then you
have to be able to sort of pretend that that's
the way it is. When the light song.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
You can't be guarded. You can't be guarded and worried
about judgment, I think is probably the biggest thing, because
if you're thinking, we're just talking to each other, we
know that we're in a safe space because you know
I'm not going to judge you, and I know that
you're not going to judge me, and I think we
operate in that realm and then sometimes we get interrupted
by not interrupted, that's the wrong word, but sometimes we
do get judgment from from people who are listening, and
(32:51):
they'll you know.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
You want some judgment, I'll give you some judgment. So
we got some judgment from today because I don't want
you all to think that all we ever do is
talk about how things are per because it's never in
any situation. But we want to get real on this podcast.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
But if you want to hear us give some judgment
on the air too. We talked about Mary Lee about
two fridays ago.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
So I get done with the show today and I
got an email from a guy named Sheldon, and he says,
is there a time during your morning broadcast that I
can get traditional news? I grew up listening to the
radio for morning news during the day in the car.
I get the different personalities in their programs. Thanks, but
essentially saying, you guys didn't have enough news in your
program and talk you talk too much and today truth
(33:33):
be told. What I said when we were done. Today
was one of those days where there weren't like numerous dominant,
obvious top stories. We didn't have. We had one guest
today and it was Emily Ratliffe about Claire's Army. We
on a normal day, I'd say average we probably have
what two to three guests, Steve, that's pretty far for
(33:56):
the course, Yeah, give or take.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
I mean, you know, again on and as an hour average,
I mean there's days where we've had five six people on,
and then there's days where we don't have anybody. But yeah,
I would say as an average two to three. Yeah,
during a normal four hour show, and.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
We'll have political guests, and like we have a politic
on Wednesdays now we have a political analyst who is
a political science professor, and we cover headlines a great
deal with those guests, guests like mcmulvaney, and we get
into the meat of.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Tough headlines, and you know, Monday, Mondays and parts of
Tuesdays and Fridays we have regular final hour guests. You know.
So what I'm getting at here is today was a
different kind of show. We don't have shows like today
very often where it was kind of a we It
(34:45):
was one of those days where we have, Okay, there's
a bunch of things we've been meaning to talk to
and meaning to get to and we finally have time
to do it, and now we have the text line
that sort of you know, you're interactive, you can help.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Us too, and I love it.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
And then there are days where they have breaking news.
You know, a couple of days ago, Rory Cooper announced
he was running for governor in the middle of the show.
A couple of days ago, we had the shooting that
had just happened the night before and was still developing
in New York City, the tsunami that we thought might
be a thing but ended not being, thankfully as big
with the earthquake that happened overnight. There are days when
(35:19):
we get in and the breaking news takes over the
show when it needs to. But today, at the end
of the show, after a very unusual day of sort
of we had the time to move around and get
to some things that we've been putting off.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
I loved today's show.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Well I did too, But it goes to show you
it's the kind of thing where I get an email
like that and I'm thinking, well, yes, we do a
lot of we do. First of all, we do news
every thirty minutes with Mark, and you know the way
Beth and I operate, sometimes we do extensions of what
Mark talks about. If it's the biggest story that everybody's
talking about. We sort of live in that a lot.
(35:54):
But then there's a listener out there who listened to
the show today and said, do you all ever do
local news? Like, when did you stop doing local news?
I missed that. I'm thinking we did it. We did
it every half hour today, But did you listen to
the Tuesday or Monday show? And then you do a
Monday show where you sort of live in a breaking
news story. You guys have beat this horse to death.
(36:17):
You know, that's the world you live in when you
do a four hour show every day, And we sort
of have to understand that. But sometimes when I've listened
back to some of the podcasts we've done so far,
we talk a lot about how great the room is
and how much we love our team and how and
it's it is all great, But I want to be
real on this and say, you know, we get people
who who are have complaints and I like to address
(36:39):
those too, because the whole point of doing this podcast
in the beginning was to be Okay, let's finish the show,
let's go down to the basement, and let's sort of
kind of tell you everything that's going on that you
don't hear on the air necessarily.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
And we had a message on the text line today,
a guy said his name was Tim Cruise, not Tom Cruise,
but Tim Cruise said that my laugh and my voice
that I could call turkeys, that if I went turkey hunting,
I could call turkeys. And at first, you know, I
wrote him back and I was like, I'm not sure
if this means that you like my laugh or you
hate my laugh. And I never read his response really back,
(37:13):
and he wrote delightful, multiple responses and he wasn't being
insulting at all, and he was like I really think.
He was like, you could make a lot of money.
I like your left, but you could make a lot
of money calling turkeys, and then offered to train me
to call turkey. Says you could be a turkey guide.
And I was thinking, you know, that might be my
third act. I might have Tim train me and I'm
going to call turkeys. But it's interesting too because it's
(37:35):
a text line. It's and we're getting to interact with
people in real time. Sometimes you don't know if people
are saying nice things. There's this one lady Arlene, I
love her. I love her, and she had emailed before
and now that she has the text line, she texts
more and sometimes she doesn't like how happy I am,
or she doesn't like that I laugh, or she she
says that I interrupt you bo. But at the same time,
(37:56):
she's delightful I mean, and I mean delightful in all
of the best ways, and always interacts. And today sent
me these like funny like thumbs up emojis because she
and I were talking back and forth about sour Kraut.
And I love it because it's it's genuine interaction. And
I don't mind constructive criticism, and I don't mind at
(38:16):
all the people who want to hear more or less.
And I also love the lovely, sweet kind messages.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
There's an old adage in this business, or really any
kind of show business. It's great to be loved. It's
okay to be hated. The thing you don't want to
be is ignored or be considered indifferent to something right,
you know, you don't want to be boring, like like,
I'm fine that we know that the show that we
do is it's going to be some people's cup of tea,
(38:46):
some not. And then some days versus other days. I
got a note, we got a note. We have a
guy that texts or no, it's an email emails us
name is Thomas. Every time that Pat McCrory's on the show,
every time, just about every time that that Nick mulvaney's
on the show. Tom there are a couple of sort
(39:07):
of button issues for him that will always make him
email the show. And when he emails the show ninety
nine percent of the time, it's like a it's a
laundry list of things that we did wrong that segment,
and you know, it's always like and he always ends
it saying sorry, period, and yeah, like sorry, you have
to I've got to break the reality of the world
(39:29):
to you. And we've been getting those.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
For years, I mean ever since I've been here.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yeah, and before that, because when I used to do
the show with McCrory, we got it a lot too.
But here's how I sort of like, it's almost like
he's sort of curmudgeonly about it, but he's our curmudgeon
and he's always listening. And so yesterday, yesterday, he sent
us a note about a bunch of things he didn't
like it about but what we said and how we
were wrong. And I sent him a note back and
(39:55):
I just said, Thomas, thanks for always listening. Yes In
the spirit of what I was saying was, you know, Thomas,
as much as you seem to find fault with things
that we do, gosh darn it, you're there every day.
He's so loyal and he is and you know what
he sent us back, nicest note, and he said, actually,
(40:18):
there are just a few things that you do that
I don't like that I point out to you, But
here are all the things I did. And I did
not at all expect to get that from him.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
When at first both thought he was being like I did.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I read it to Beth and I said, do you
think this is like a sort of passive aggressive like
ohh and and so I said, well, you know what
I said that was that was really cool because it
was genuine. I didn't think that that was a guy
that we could ever. I didn't think it was a
guy that really found much positive because look, we welcome,
(40:50):
we welcome, as Beth said, the good and the bad.
But when you get the bad, like fifty nine times,
you start thinking he must must must not be any
good there. I'll just talk that one up, the one
that he's gonna listen, but he's not gonna enjoy what
he's listening to, so I wonder why he keeps listening,
but there's I guess there must be something there, and
then you find out that it is. So you know,
(41:12):
this is good today because we've gotten into some of
the we have. We got people out there that love
to tell us what we're doing wrong. The best is
when you can sort of get someone like that and
then you see the crack one day we're like, oh,
there's actually there was actually something good that they like too,
because something's keeping them coming back.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
That's what I love because it's real. It's a three
hundred and sixty degree interaction. Because no human experience is
all positive, all negative, at least you hope it's not
all negative. But the human experience is complex and the
fact that we get to have these interactions with people
and we get to see the complexity of personalities, they
(41:51):
get to know the complexity of ours, and we see
we get the good and the bad, like Arlene, like Thomas,
the will tell us like man, y'all really miss the
mark today or at the same time, oh man, you
really had me laughing, And I went into my day
with a much better, you know, feeling about how the
day was going to be and all of those things
can coexist. And the fact that we are just being
(42:15):
who we are and don't have you know, any we're
not being guarded about ourselves. We can have those kinds
of relationships with our listeners and now with the text
line and even better and you know, more real time.
It's great. It is such a it's such a gift
because sometimes the the the the not arguments, but the
(42:37):
disagreements in life sometimes bring you closer together. And if
you have any kind of real special relationship with anybody,
you know that to be true. And I think it
makes it even more special with our listeners. If you
have disagreements about things, but you still find your way
back to each other. It's like marriage, you know, it's
like friendships, all of those things. You can have disagreements,
but you find yourself you find your way back to
(42:58):
each other because it means something I disagree, but you
mean something. Bo Hopefully, this what a random the seventeenth
segment today, but thank you. We were going to get
to other questions that people ask, but we spent the
entire time on Hindon. Hinden, we love you, and I
had my phone up here just for Hindon.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Yeah, see I mean this is this is authentic. We
have our phones right here. So has anybody called and
complained since we've been.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
On listening yet it's not been hurted yet. Tell us
when you're listening to the podcast, and we love you,
We love hearing from you, and we love it when
it's like random times of the day like three am.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
It might be right now, this day seems so long.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
And drop a thumbs up and subscribe. And you know
you guys have to yeah, we have to continue to add.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
To sure yourself. Where's your cute little face? Steve here?
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Here? I am there?
Speaker 1 (43:46):
He is, all right, y'all. We'll be back for episode nine,
we hope, unless we get canceled.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
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