July 18, 2025 • 38 mins
This week, Alejandro details his experience at Beyonce's Cowboy Carter concert in Atlanta. Concerts are becoming big money plays and we're starting to feel like we're being priced out of the experience of seeing our favorite artists perform. Is there any concert ticket that is worth $1,000? More? We'll give you our thoughts and more.
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No, okay, all right, Alex, we are back with another
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Speaker 4 (00:38):
I am Alexi.
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Speaker 3 (00:59):
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Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
So it has been a busy summer for you because
you have been between Disney, the Essen Music Festival, and
Lucky Beyonce second row seats like you have been outside.
You have been to these concerts. All I see on
my TikTok feed, because you know it's really annoying, is
(01:22):
nothing but Essence Music Festival and Beyonce concerts. So I
need you to tell me about the real deal of
the experiences because I'm overwhelmed with these concerts.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You're overwhelmed, are I.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Am overwhelmed at the social media content of Essence Festival
and Beyonce like, I don't want to see any more
Cowboy Outfice, I don't want to see any more think
pieces on the Essence Music Festival, Like I am overwhelmed.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Well, I will say as a new Hive yen, you know,
I'm in the hive now, Okay, sitting that close to
Beyonce and we made our contact. Let y'all know, Like
she looked down and then I looked up, and then
she looked down and I was just it was just
like synergy.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Was this your first time seeing Beyonce?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
See, this is this is gonna be my millennial. You know,
we we age ourselves every show.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
You saw her nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I saw her nineteen seventy two at the Old Sugar Shaker.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Uh huh. I figured that. I figured I.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Saw her back in the B Day era. Okay, yeah, remember.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
B Day Now, that's that's when I was. That's when
I was a fan. I was a standback then. I
was in the Behigh back then, but before it was
called Beehive.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah I was. I was there years ago.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
But I did not go to Cowboy Carter or Renaissance
or you know, those are the only shows that haven't
been to actually, but I all your experience on TikTok
and on Instagram. So I was like, first of all
four shows in Atlanta, m h the prices. I mean
people have been going broke buying Beyonce tickets?
Speaker 4 (03:13):
What is up with that?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
And it's not even the tickets, it's like and this
is like goes into just the culture of going to things, right,
you gotta buy the outfit first, and you know this
is not even an outfit. You know how you can
go to Disney and you can buy an outfit to
go to Disney, but then you can use some of
those things to go other places. Yes, yeah, most people,
(03:36):
like if you're in Atlanta and you go you buy
a cowboy hat, and then you gotta buy like some
Levi's jeans or some Wranglers.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
You can get those. You can thrift those, yep. But
then you gotta get.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Some boots and hurt, and they hurt. People realize that
cowboy boots hurt. You have to break them in and.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Extensive.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I went to Nashville one time and I was like,
cowboy boots are like five hundred, six hundred dollars.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Had no idea.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Now, if you go to Nashville. They do have specials
and sales. When I was there, you can buy like
two boots and get one pair for free.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
So you're going with three peoples a piece.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yes, you get one pair for free, y'all can split it.
But you gotta buy the outfit. See when I went there,
you know, I was with you before we were at
the pool, so I had on I had a basketball
shorts and regular shoes, and your girl gave me her
cowboy hat. For those people there that was like had
(04:35):
the toll, American flag, Americana. Yep, they had the boots, chaps,
stirrup castles, glitter, dazzle razzle.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
They had it all.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
And yeah, and then you get hungry, so you gotta buy.
You gotta buy the food there. You gotta get your
transportation there. Maybe you took my maybe you took Uber.
Maybe you just drove and you got to park.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Parking was eighty dollars.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I can only imagine. I didn't even think to look
at the parking prices. But yeah, I should have known
that because if the Falcons is like fifty dollars, sixty
dollars had to be eighty.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Makes sense.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So that's the thing. Like because of the spectacle, the.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Average person is probably gonna watch and say, I gotta
do all of these things to fit into cowboy carter.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Plus the seats.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah, so you got the outfit parking, if you flew
from out of town, you got your ticket, and then
you got to buy your seats, and you know social
media pressure. No one wants to sit all the way
at the top. But I saw people, you know how
the dome. They could touch the top of the dome.
That's that's how far they sat up. But other people
for the look, you know, to keep up with the Jontes,
(05:53):
to keep up appearances, they wanted to sit on the floor.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So what's that thirty one hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, people were spending one thousand dollars per ticket. It
is wild to me how insanely high ticket places have gone.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Thirteen hundred dollars. Push your outfit that you're never gonna
wear again. Yeah, where are you wearing the boots to
man afrobeat? Right?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Like you what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
They're not going to the trail rides, They're not going
to the trail rise. They're not going Like, I don't understand.
I see all these people, not even just that. I
saw an article today about is Beyonce, you know, is
she creating patriotism and black Americans. No, they're literally buying
American flag t shirts literally to wear a Beyonce It's
(06:41):
gonna be worn to sleep from now on. Like they're
not going to just be wearing American flag shirts going
to Applebee's.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Like this is not happening.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Like when I was not their article, I was like, no,
it's not patriotism. But a lot of the comments were like,
but we built this country. I'm like, yes, we built
this country, but patriotism been wearing an American flag?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I just know. I just don't. I don't buy it.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I think that it's just because they wanted to fit
in with the aesthetic of being a guest at the
Cowboy Carter tour, like that's it.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah. And also we went to the where they sell
the shirts.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
And I was about to save booty shorts, yeah, but
they sold all the merch.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
If you wanted some shorts, ninety dollars.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
If you want a cowboy hat, like an Americana cowboy hat,
one hundred dollars. MM. So I do think social media,
like we always say the pressure of fitting in, because
you know, I did applaud some people who just went
there just regular clothes, right. Yeah, maybe it was like
two or three people that were just like, I ain't
(07:46):
doing all that.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yeah, that would have been me. That would have been me.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, especially the dudes that were on a date. You
know that girl was like, come to the show with me,
and then they were just they had on regular clothes. Yeah,
they had on regular I mean.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
But black on black this where's some black black T shirt?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
If you go the amount of people who go over
above and beyond, I haven't seen this level of just
just you know, unity in fashion. This is like, this
is like prom level now for the kids. Ye as
(08:25):
far as like you see the kids, it's like, oh
I have to go the prom and it has to
be this way.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
So it's like I gotta go to Beyonce, but I
gotta buy these like boots with the ego face on
it or something.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
They cost like eight hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
So I haven't seen this level of just like you know,
I gotta look like this, I gotta have this, I
gotta stay at this hotel, I gotta buy the products,
I gotta buy the what is it sacred? I gotta
buy the Beyonce.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Liquor, sir. You know how much Shirt Days.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Calls a bid?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
I heard it was expensive.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I heard it's almost one hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Mm hmm wow Beyonce. Yeah, okay, and it's.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Whiskey right, yes. And I was at Altsa and they
have you know, they have her products there, yep.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
And you want some of that hair serum, hair oatmeal,
pudding solution.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
People have been on social media like, oh, I use
serrum and maybe grow my edges back.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Every every time I see those videos, you know, I crnch.
I'm like, I'm just I just crunch anyway when it
comes to anything like hair growth, but especially it's like
y'all love Beyonce so much that y'all will say whatever
it takes to get Miss Tina to repost.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
You Like, y'all will say whatever, and it may maybe
it does work.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
But I just noticed an abundance, and I'm like this,
this seems kind of interesting because you don't really see
that a lot. But you know, she is a huge brand,
so people are going to buy, you know, pretty much whatever.
At to a certain extent, they're going to buy whatever.
She's selling until they don't until they don't en then
it's on to the next thing. Like that's you know
pretty much what it is. So did you if you
(10:10):
paid for the concert? Did you if you paid a
thousand dollars for those seats, would you think it was
worth it?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Mm see, I'm one of those people that's like, is
anything worth a thousand dollars?
Speaker 4 (10:22):
I hear you, I hear you.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I'm just saying, is anything.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I thought it was an amazing show, Okay, I would
say that. I think it's for somebody who I didn't
really understand Cowboy Carter like that as a body of work.
But I was listening to it on Spotify right. I
was listening to it on like computer speakers. Okay, So
when you go see the show, it's like a whole
theatrical musical experience.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
They have like interludes.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
It's very it's like the performances are fused with the song.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
So I was like, oh, I get it. Now I
can get jiggy with Cowboy Card. I get it. It
makes way more since live than it does.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
You're not about to be playing this now. You're not
about to be at home.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
If she drops the live version. Yeah, because remember back,
I mean gen Z.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
They don't know, but we used to have the live
versions of a lot of a lot of albums we love,
and we still play like DJ's always played Erica by
Dude Tyron. Yeah, that was on the live version of
the album. And that song wasn't even on the basic
Baduism just spot Flow a Tree. Even Michael Jackson, like
(11:36):
you know, there's a whole generation of people who grew
up we had a lot of live albums, right, but
because of the talent deficiency or lack of live vocals,
we ain't really seen live albums in like almost two
decades now.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
They don't really come out like they used to.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
That's true. That's true.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Like MTV used to always play like Nirvana's live the
videos from that. Maxwell had one.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Even Jay Z know when he performed Takeover with the Roots.
Yes we're old on TV. Yeah, on the television.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
So you would buy, so you would buy the livery
or you would listen to the live version. I put
it that way, because you're not buying, but you listen
to the live version and you don't think it's necessarily
you don't think anything's worth a thousand dollars but you,
but it was a great show to you, and and.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Now I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
The most I do is five hundred dollars just because
it was the loudest I've ever heard of concert.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I'll say that. Okay, See now care for the Falcons like.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
This or for any sports team probably.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
In the nineties, they don't even it was so loud,
Like I went death halfway through. I don't even know
what songs you performed halfway through. Yeah, I was just
like it was so loud in it.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Yeah, I'm sure loud and overwhelming when it's like.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, but one thousand dollars plus another thousand dollars for
your outfit, plus another thousand dollars for either merch, travel, hotel, parking, yeah,
food and just anything tied to it, Sir Davis, sacred. Yeah,
it is for like the future box sit You're gonna
(13:26):
end them probably spending close to three K on your
whole beyond six.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Perience, ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I have I Okay, So I am like not going
to concerts anymore because I cannot afford them. And I
really feel like it's Beyonce's fault. I feel like she
priced out. She like priced out concerts to the max
that the average person can't afford it, but they're like
selling out. So it's just like, wow, people, do people
(13:53):
just have this extra money? I mean, I can't be
in people's pockets like that, but I find it very
hard to believe that a lot of people like just
have extra money to just be sending this thousand dollars
or are they like, you know, saving up for it
or whatever they're doing. I just find it hard to
believe a country that most people in paycheck to paycheck
that these concerts are filled with people. But also one
(14:16):
thing I noticed is a lot of people are going
to multiple shows, So it could just be also certain
certain levels of folks financial wise, certain salary wise, are
going to multiple shows. So maybe that's also why they're
selling out, because people are flying to different cities. But
I just I'm like kind of confused. I'm like, oh,
so everybody has money now all of a sudden to
go to these seven hundred eight hundred dollar concerts. And
(14:39):
I realized all the concerts are like this now, Like
when I was looking at Kendrick seats, I'm like, they're
so expensive, like seven hundred eight hundred dollars for Kendrick seats,
and I feel like every artist is now maxing out.
I just I was looking at Chris Brown tickets. Now,
granted the city that was looking at, they're sold out.
The second to the last row people were reselling for
(15:00):
three hundred and seventy five dollars a piece.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Are they gonna get that?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Probably not, but that's after taxes and fees. That is
over four hundred dollars for the second to the last
row in the venue. And I love Chris Brown, and
I cannot imagine. It doesn't mean I just can't imagine
spending four hundred dollars to be second to the last row,
and for the floor seats they were going for like
two thousand and five thousand dollars. And I feel like
(15:24):
it's out of control now, the reselling, but not just
the reselling, because it's not just the resale prices. The
official prices are high to begin with, and then people
are like doubling their prices. And I feel like these
concerts pretty soon, who's going to be going to these concerts?
Because even though I'm saying that now, however, these these
shows are sold out, so clearly people are paying but
(15:44):
how long is this going to last? And what's happening
is artists that don't deserve to sell tickets for five
hundred dollars are now selling tickets for five hundred dollars.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
So that's really the thing, which also leads me to Essen's.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Music Festival, when I saw a lot of people complaining about, oh,
there's no big artists, and those big artists, who can
they afford? All the big artists are Beyonce, Ken Drake.
I mean, if we could throw Drake in the mix,
can they afford those artists? Because these artists are charging
so much money for their tickets for just them, I
can't imagine festivals picking up these artists moving forward because
(16:17):
they're just not going to have the money. Like these
festivals are going to have to move back to the
A listeners. I feel like the era of A listeners
music wise being or superstars I'll say superstars to the
A listeners, superstars being at these music festivals.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
I don't think it's happening anymore.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I don't think it's the thing because I don't think
they can afford them now They've they've maxed out their prices.
And I was talking to a guy last night at
the one of the events that Alex and I went
to a musical industry he is a part of He
is apartment part I guess management for a pretty big
rap artists, and we were talking about how much are
(16:54):
these artists costs? He was like, well, you know, sometimes
people just have to work with the especially if it's
a black brand. You know, get three fifty in seat
of five hundred thousand. But I'm like, are these artists
gonna do that though? Are these artists and these managers
gonna say, hey, we normally charge five hundred thousand for
thirty minutes, but for y'all, we could do it for
two to fifty.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I just think that that era is over.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I don't think we're ever getting the essence music festivals
with the Beyonce's anymore. I don't think it's ever gonna
happen again. I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
M Well, this is beyonce fault, really.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I said, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
This is her fault. It is, yeah, but it's also.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I mean, it's just weird to see so many people
go and pay this money. But the analytics, the hard
data is that people don't have this money. So it's like,
are we using payment.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Plans and I'm the Claria queen.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Are we putting these are we paying everything on Klara
after pay? Are we borrowing money from institutions back? Because
right now, because of the Beyonce boom, it's like all
the time. It's just like football, pro sports. If somebody
(18:12):
gets one thing, then the next the second pick, third pick,
fourth pick, everyone's like, I want that thing. So the
higher you get, like if the first round pick gets
a five hundred million dollars deal, as you can see
nine in sports, even in baseball, m the next the
next generation, you're going to be.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Paying seven eight hundred million the way it's going for
one person.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
And then you're not even talking about soccer, where they're
already getting paid two hundred and fifty million, three hundred million,
five hundred a year to play soccer.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Yeah excuse me, football, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
So because Beyonce, the boom is thirteen hundred. Chris Brown's
people is like, we could get five hundred, we can
give a thousand and when if Rihanna comes back, which.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Is highly unlikely as.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
An artist before, yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
But you know, if you put money on the table
for Rihanna, like you can make a billion yeah touring. Yeah,
once you have your your baby and you don't have anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
She can. The market could go up. She could be like,
I want fifteen hundred.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Dollars mm hmm for three hundred level.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
So luckily for them, though, there's no other artists that
can command Beyonce like prices.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
They can.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah, that's true. She she is, she has y has
she hit the ceiling?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
We don't ye because even wasn't charging that and level,
but even he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Doing that, so he was still high.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Though I felt like Usher was still high.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I'm not gonna lie, like I still felt like his
Vegas resident residency, I do think it was hot. However,
there weren't really any be seats in there, especially for residencies,
they're usually not huge arenas, so to me it wasn't
as bad. But like when you're going to like a
Beyonce level show and there's like three hundred and four
hundred level seats and huge, huge arenas, that's way different
(20:13):
than like a Vegas residency. So yeah, I mean, I
think she she definitely has started this trend and now
everyone and I'm saying everyone thinks they can charge almost
as much because like you said, they can't charge with
huge things. However, people are buying it, so clearly I'm
just out of the mix. And maybe I'm the only
one that can't afford to go to spend six hundred
(20:33):
dollars on the ticket to go see Kendrick Lamar or
five hundred dollars to go see Chris Brown. Like maybe
I'm the only one because they're selling out, So somebody lying, somebody.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I think people are, you know, half of it is resellers.
And then and I'm one of those people that's like, okay,
so I sat on the floor for Beyonce, but I'm like,
is this really worth thirteen hundred dollars because you can
see Beyonce because she like walks down this this little runway,
(21:05):
and it's like, is that to me as a non
like hivan until now, Yeah, was.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
That worth thirteen hundred dollars to me? No?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Now, if she walked through the crowd right like she
came down like her dances do and walk through the
crowd or something, then that's different. But you could get
a good seat, like you know, we've been to a
lot of shows and we get a good seat like
toward the middle, and you.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Can pay like three to five hundred dollars.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Whoa, but the look.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
For me wants the look that I was just about
to say, everybody wants to look. For some reason, I
noticed that night for everybody that was on my timeline
had floor seats everybody. So I'm like, we're floor seats
extra cheap that day because every single person that I
followed was on the floor the day for nightfour, I
was like, wow, okay, Like I mean, I'm not in
(21:57):
anybody's pocket. So I'm not trying to say, like you know,
I'm not trying to say an think about finances, but
what I am trying to say is like all of
y'all everybody.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Was on the floor night Nightfoard.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I was like, wow, but it looked again, it looked
like an amazing experience.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
But I think you money, Yeah, we're telling you now.
They was on the floor beyond.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
And they all you know what, that's why.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Honestly, on my TikTok feed, which aren't actually friends, but
you know, like I'm just scrolling the for you page
a lot of cowboy Carter content. I'm like some people's
content isn't especially because I'm like everybody else has the
same view you had, so it's like, but it really
is for social media purposes, like you and our friend
Jess that went to the concert had second row seats.
(22:45):
Y'all's video was like amazing because y'all had really really
great access. But all the other videos, I do know,
it's definitely for aesthetic purposes. Like I don't know, I
don't know if you know this, because I don't think
you're you know, you're not TikToker like that. Everybody was
going live during the concert, and it's like, are you
even enjoying the concert? You just want to show people
that you're there, Like you are literally going live the
(23:06):
entire like I don't I don't understand, like the entire concert,
y'all are going live. So I watched quite a bit
of it the day that I had FOMO when you
guys went to the concert, and that was the first
time I actually watched some I watched it because I'm like, oh,
I'm tired of all the lives, but also I'm like,
enjoy the event. Why are you a live for everybody else?
First of all, have you paid your one thousand dollars.
(23:26):
I'm not giving y'all the concert for free if I
paid one thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah, but that's the answer. That's the answer to all
the questions about a.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Why of people pay all of this money or they
look yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Because so people do that on YouTube, Like you know
in media, if you wonder why somebody posted like a
whole press conference on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
It's to make the money. And people do it all
the time.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
They haven't banned this yet and TikTok, I don't think
they've banned live streaming. But you can actually monetize that,
so they're cashing in on Like if you go to
like a comic con, if you go to like Disney's
D twenty three, you can record a whole panel that
no one else can can see because they're at home,
(24:16):
and then you post it. And so some of those
if you go on YouTube, a lot of the panels
have like two point three million views, a million views.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Because everyone is at home, Like, oh, I have.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Fomo, but I want to watch it on TikTok. I
want to watch it. And I think people are banking
on their future creator career. Yes, Like I'm spending the
thirteen hundred dollars to be here. I want to be
a socialite. I want to be on the scene. I
want people to see that I'm doing this.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I saw a lot of people watermarking their videos that
we all had because we were all there right.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
As if because everyone thinks that they're a brand now,
so it's like as part of your brand.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
You gotta have your cowboy out fit. Yep. And there's
somebody who's been doing roundups and galleries. They have gotten
way more.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Like intricate, way more luxurious, way more like over the
top feathers.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Yes, like handmade, yes, getting things customed.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Real eagle claws.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Like alligator, any kind of animal that you can put
on the outfit as cowboy esque.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Wait, the last concert, what was it all? Everybody wears
silver or something? What was the last concert for Renaissance
Glex silver or something? Okay, I do like that she
has that theme going where she started that, because I
don't recall. I mean, there's probably some like pop artists
that have done something like that, where like you wear
(25:48):
something that resembles them or something, But that was the
first time I've ever seen in masks, like people wearing
having there's a theme to what you wear, and everybody participated.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I was thinking about your boy, now you know your boy.
Come on, we can't forget about Frankie.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
With the all white okay, yes, and.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Then forget about Prince with everywhere purple and had they
their cheeks out.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
I don't recall anybody having their cheeks out at Prince.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I will say as a historian, I will give Janet
she was one of the first to do that, because
you know, I went to Rhythm Nation because I'm me too.
I remember everyone was wearing like lesser like she.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Even if you go back and watch your videos.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Everyone had all like that leather black esthetic like that.
No kind of black panther is more and so like
punk punk.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Like the Rhythm video.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah, kids, if you don't know Janet back and nineteen.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Ninety, yeah yeah, because that was my very first concert,
was the Rhythmation tour. Yep, that was my first one.
And then like Hammer, I started going to like EMC
Hammer and all the all that kind of stuffy already know, yeah,
when you could.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Go to very specific things.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Okay, Okay, I never paid Honestly, I don't remember because
I was like five when I went to that show,
but I don't remember it. I mean I could see
people wearing like all black and like the head like
really trying to mimic the rhythmation video, but I didn't
know that was like a thing or like did she
tell people to do that? But I don't even know
if Beyonce told people to do that, Like did Beyonce say, hey,
(27:34):
everybody wear silver for Renaissance, Hey, everybody wear cowboy costumes
or whatever for Cowboy Carter, Like I didn't know if
that was a thing that she did or if it
was just like you know, her fans were just like, Oh,
we're gonna go all out, We're gonna where, We're gonna
go spend hundreds of dollars on some country gear. I
don't know what it was, but.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Well, she did say for Renaissance, to wear your metallic
ChIL okay, she did put that on social media. But
I think, like for the years, it just depends on
what the fandom is, because you know, like Nicki Minaja's fans,
everybody wears paint dresses like barbies, you know, that whole
Japanese style. So I'm sure you know, every every artist
(28:14):
could be like, well.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
My fans was dressed like this, right like that, right,
you know, Travis.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Scott fans dressed like I was gonna say something, but
I can't say what clothes that they can't move in.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
You just dressed like op topic employees, right exactly.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I was like really really tight jeans and things with
a lot of buckles or something.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, Like for most big artists, you can tell what
the fandom is like if you didn't know who had
a concert, but you see them walking back to the hotel, Yeah,
you can pretty much tell. The barbs. You can pretty
much tell like Taylor Swift, the Swifties, friendship, bracelests, you know,
they just like they shop in anthropology. Oh, they just
(29:00):
dressed hippies, fairies, hippie fairies whatever. M But for the
most part, like the very specific, the very like very
very very specific. Beyonce can say that she piered that, yeah,
because like it was like me tallic silver, and then
it was very specific. But the cowgirl and then the
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act three is like rock Oh, people think, I mean
I doubt, I highly doubt she's gonna drop a rock out.
But if it is, then you're gonna see people dressing
like remember in Atlanta party like a rock star. It
was like a very specific year and a half where
everyone was dressing like rock stars.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, rock stars are like emo or that emo. Look,
that's that's wild. But I mean her fans it was
fun me to watch. I just saw a lot of
crazy outfits. So yeah, it was funny to us to
watch all the outfits and stuff. I mean, like you mentioned,
there's some extravagant o office that I was like, oh,
that is cute. Like there are some that I'm like, oh,
(30:06):
like you could wear that like out, you know, somewhere else.
But then there were some that I was like, Okay,
You're never gonna wear any of those pieces ever again.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
So you're gonna have to figure that out. Sis. But yeah,
I just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I mean, I congratulations to you guys that went to
Cowboard Carter, to financial stable, people who were able to
go to Cowboy Carter, because apparently all of the statistics
about Americans living paycheck to paycheck is not the case
because y'all were outside, y'all were there, y'all were out.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
So black families, households having the lowest per household income
in America.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
What was it the last time I checked, it was
like twenty six thousand wow median.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Wow, that's really for black household compared to that everyone
else was like seven eighty.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Yeah, like black folks we had the strangest statistics because
it's like we have the highest spending power. Mh Like
when we spend, like you said, essence face, when we
go and we support something, we have the most bankable
dollar in the world. But we make less for household
than anybody else.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Which probably means that we spent outside our means. That's conversation.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
That's another.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
But I mean, doesn't that kind of say we spent
outside our means? Like I hope that people didn't go
into debt to have a Cowboy Carter experience. I hope
that's not the case, but I'm willing to bet that
a strong thirty percent. Look again, I put stuff on Clarna.
I do not care. You know I would put stuff
on Klarna. I'm gonna pay it off in my four
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payments every two weeks. I don't mind Klarna, but I'm
not doing it. But you know what, I'll say this,
everybody has their things of what they pay for, so
I can't get mad. You know, some women I see
people arguing with hairstylists today about oh, I can't believe
you charge on a thousand dollars, and they're like, well,
I'm booked, so what's your problem. Like, I'm booked, you
just can't afford me. So But also that same person
(32:18):
is buying thousand dollars pair of shoes that doesn't want
to pay a thousand dollars for their hair. So in
the perspective, there are certain things that I will spend
one thousand dollars on, but I'm not spending a thousand
dollars on a concert.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
If I'm spending a thousand dollars on something, it's something
that I can get some money back for it, which
is like, you know, I used to have a thing
with purses and stuff. If I spend a thousand dollars
on a bag, I can probably sell it for seven
hundred and eight hundred the least. I can't sell my
experience of a Beyonce concert or anybody's concert. I can't
sell that experience, and I can't bottle that experience up,
like of course I can have my memories, but yeah,
it's too expensive for me for what I like to
(32:51):
spend money on.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
It's not for me. It's just not my thing. But again,
congratulations to you all.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Even we need even to talk about getting your hair done.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Hair because I saw a lot of getting their hair done,
getting their makeup done. And again the custom the custom outfits.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
So the makeup, y'all are really paying five hundred dollars
to get your makeup done.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Oh, I don't know nothing about that.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I'm only I've seen, like you know, normal rates are
like one point fifty that's normal rate.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
And see, what I think a lot of people are
also wanting to do is do things with a brand,
which we did, which we were lucky enough to do
with Marriott. Shout out to Marriott, my new family for life.
It's like a lot of people see that you can
have a very different experience with a brand.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yeah, it's like in Atlanta alone, it was like you
can go to the Delta lounge, you can.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Go to this lounge. Yeah. For the last tour, Lexus
had a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
So the brands also it's spending a lot of money,
but they're also not spending as much as they used to. Yeah,
so I think everybody is feeling like, well, it would
seem that some people are feeling the crunch. But the
way they Lanta looked, the way letter was sold out, Yes,
Like where is everybody getting.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Their money from? What is everybody doing? What is there?
Speaker 3 (34:23):
I mean because you you just got back from Essence Fest,
so you just paid for that mm hmm, and then
you know you might have student loans. Then you got
like the personal upkeep, and then the way the gross
grocery price is crazy and you're not cookies. Like at
this point, a lot of people are like, it's cheaper
to eat out now than it is to get groceries.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah. So if you're eating out every day and it's
like do people have three jobs?
Speaker 1 (34:51):
They might somebody's I told you we have to investigate
on it. On one episode. We're gonna have to investigate
and break down, like y'all are spending a lot of money,
where is it coming from?
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah? And we always say no one in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Had works nobody, So I'm trying to figure out myself.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
What we're not in anyone's pockets.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
It's just thirteen hundred dollars for a show chow and
then this is like summer, we got a whole nother month. Yeah,
so if you went on vacation for your birthday, you
went to Essence Fish, you went to this show, and
then a lot of people are going to Disney.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
A lot of people like when people say that the traffic.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
At Disney is is insane.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Now you could barely walk.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
And it's like a Monday damn, and your kids is
not even in school and they're supposed to be in school.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
M Like, I saw a lot of kids at Cowboy Carter.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I saw a lot of a lot of kids on
regular days at Disney. I saw a lot of kids
at Essence. So you also got to pay for the
kids to go.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Look, one thing I know now is everybody has money.
So I don't know what b simone talking about finances
because I'm like, it seems like every everybody has money.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
So I don't know, I don't know what anybody's talking about.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
But yeah, we definitely, we definitely have to get into
break down somebody somebody's topics for other episodes because uh, yeah,
that's we need to put that, put that in the queue,
We need to put that in the queue.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I saw somebody on.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Social media, Oh you know, I see a lot of
people a lot of parents saying like I can't even.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Take my kids to the movies anymore. Yeah, but then
it's like I see them.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Saying that, but then it's like you you other people
are paying to go to the concert, but you can't
pay what eighty dollars for a family afford to go.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
To the movies.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Man, So yeah, put that in to investigate. We will
be investigating twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
And what's crazy is Klara said the other day that
people are paying back their loans.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
But they said I think they said most of it
was groceries, and then they said most of it was
grocery based, which I can understand that more. And I
don't feel as bad because it's groceries because that means
that people really need the groceries. I would be really
upset if it's because of people buying purses and concert tickets.
That's when I'd be like, Okay, y'all wrong for that.
(37:32):
But yes, we need we need to talk more about
that on another episode for sure.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Well, we'll be back. We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Soon with another episode. Yeah, if we still the concerts.
You can follow me at Lexi with the Curls and
Speaker 3 (37:49):
You follow me at Alexandro Underscoreglacias likes but what it
is yes,
It's not like a logo like a team.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
No, it was this is supposed to be Leelo fire.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Oh okay, but it's not always for o'honna got you.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Okay, but Disney's not gonna legal, ain't gonna say nothing.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
It's really my point.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
No, okay, all right, Alex, we are back with another
episode of the Adulthood of Podcast for Great Millennials.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
I am Alexi.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
That's very you know, very sexy start. There is that
you Midnight Love Dedication.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
It is this is the my quiet Storm voice.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Oh yeah, somebody want to put me on shout out
to Radio one.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
So it has been a busy summer for you because
you have been between Disney, the Essen Music Festival, and
Lucky Beyonce second row seats like you have been outside.
You have been to these concerts. All I see on
my TikTok feed, because you know it's really annoying, is
(01:22):
nothing but Essence Music Festival and Beyonce concerts. So I
need you to tell me about the real deal of
the experiences because I'm overwhelmed with these concerts.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You're overwhelmed, are I.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Am overwhelmed at the social media content of Essence Festival
and Beyonce like, I don't want to see any more
Cowboy Outfice, I don't want to see any more think
pieces on the Essence Music Festival, Like I am overwhelmed.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Well, I will say as a new Hive yen, you know,
I'm in the hive now, Okay, sitting that close to
Beyonce and we made our contact. Let y'all know, Like
she looked down and then I looked up, and then
she looked down and I was just it was just
like synergy.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Was this your first time seeing Beyonce?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
See, this is this is gonna be my millennial. You know,
we we age ourselves every show.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
You saw her nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I saw her nineteen seventy two at the Old Sugar Shaker.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Uh huh. I figured that. I figured I.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Saw her back in the B Day era. Okay, yeah, remember.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
B Day Now, that's that's when I was. That's when
I was a fan. I was a standback then. I
was in the Behigh back then, but before it was
called Beehive.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah I was. I was there years ago.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
But I did not go to Cowboy Carter or Renaissance
or you know, those are the only shows that haven't
been to actually, but I all your experience on TikTok
and on Instagram. So I was like, first of all
four shows in Atlanta, m h the prices. I mean
people have been going broke buying Beyonce tickets?
Speaker 4 (03:13):
What is up with that?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
And it's not even the tickets, it's like and this
is like goes into just the culture of going to things, right,
you gotta buy the outfit first, and you know this
is not even an outfit. You know how you can
go to Disney and you can buy an outfit to
go to Disney, but then you can use some of
those things to go other places. Yes, yeah, most people,
(03:36):
like if you're in Atlanta and you go you buy
a cowboy hat, and then you gotta buy like some
Levi's jeans or some Wranglers.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
You can get those. You can thrift those, yep. But
then you gotta get.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Some boots and hurt, and they hurt. People realize that
cowboy boots hurt. You have to break them in and.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Extensive.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I went to Nashville one time and I was like,
cowboy boots are like five hundred, six hundred dollars.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Had no idea.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Now, if you go to Nashville. They do have specials
and sales. When I was there, you can buy like
two boots and get one pair for free.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
So you're going with three peoples a piece.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yes, you get one pair for free, y'all can split it.
But you gotta buy the outfit. See when I went there,
you know, I was with you before we were at
the pool, so I had on I had a basketball
shorts and regular shoes, and your girl gave me her
cowboy hat. For those people there that was like had
(04:35):
the toll, American flag, Americana. Yep, they had the boots, chaps,
stirrup castles, glitter, dazzle razzle.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
They had it all.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
And yeah, and then you get hungry, so you gotta buy.
You gotta buy the food there. You gotta get your
transportation there. Maybe you took my maybe you took Uber.
Maybe you just drove and you got to park.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Parking was eighty dollars.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I can only imagine. I didn't even think to look
at the parking prices. But yeah, I should have known
that because if the Falcons is like fifty dollars, sixty
dollars had to be eighty.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Makes sense.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So that's the thing. Like because of the spectacle, the.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Average person is probably gonna watch and say, I gotta
do all of these things to fit into cowboy carter.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Plus the seats.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah, so you got the outfit parking, if you flew
from out of town, you got your ticket, and then
you got to buy your seats, and you know social
media pressure. No one wants to sit all the way
at the top. But I saw people, you know how
the dome. They could touch the top of the dome.
That's that's how far they sat up. But other people
for the look, you know, to keep up with the Jontes,
(05:53):
to keep up appearances, they wanted to sit on the floor.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So what's that thirty one hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, people were spending one thousand dollars per ticket. It
is wild to me how insanely high ticket places have gone.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Thirteen hundred dollars. Push your outfit that you're never gonna
wear again. Yeah, where are you wearing the boots to
man afrobeat? Right?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Like you what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
They're not going to the trail rides, They're not going
to the trail rise. They're not going Like, I don't understand.
I see all these people, not even just that. I
saw an article today about is Beyonce, you know, is
she creating patriotism and black Americans. No, they're literally buying
American flag t shirts literally to wear a Beyonce It's
(06:41):
gonna be worn to sleep from now on. Like they're
not going to just be wearing American flag shirts going
to Applebee's.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Like this is not happening.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Like when I was not their article, I was like, no,
it's not patriotism. But a lot of the comments were like,
but we built this country. I'm like, yes, we built
this country, but patriotism been wearing an American flag?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I just know. I just don't. I don't buy it.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I think that it's just because they wanted to fit
in with the aesthetic of being a guest at the
Cowboy Carter tour, like that's it.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah. And also we went to the where they sell
the shirts.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
And I was about to save booty shorts, yeah, but
they sold all the merch.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
If you wanted some shorts, ninety dollars.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
If you want a cowboy hat, like an Americana cowboy hat,
one hundred dollars. MM. So I do think social media,
like we always say the pressure of fitting in, because
you know, I did applaud some people who just went
there just regular clothes, right. Yeah, maybe it was like
two or three people that were just like, I ain't
(07:46):
doing all that.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yeah, that would have been me. That would have been me.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, especially the dudes that were on a date. You
know that girl was like, come to the show with me,
and then they were just they had on regular clothes. Yeah,
they had on regular I mean.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
But black on black this where's some black black T shirt?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
If you go the amount of people who go over
above and beyond, I haven't seen this level of just
just you know, unity in fashion. This is like, this
is like prom level now for the kids. Ye as
(08:25):
far as like you see the kids, it's like, oh
I have to go the prom and it has to
be this way.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
So it's like I gotta go to Beyonce, but I
gotta buy these like boots with the ego face on
it or something.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
They cost like eight hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
So I haven't seen this level of just like you know,
I gotta look like this, I gotta have this, I
gotta stay at this hotel, I gotta buy the products,
I gotta buy the what is it sacred? I gotta
buy the Beyonce.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Liquor, sir. You know how much Shirt Days.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Calls a bid?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
I heard it was expensive.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I heard it's almost one hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Mm hmm wow Beyonce. Yeah, okay, and it's.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Whiskey right, yes. And I was at Altsa and they
have you know, they have her products there, yep.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
And you want some of that hair serum, hair oatmeal,
pudding solution.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
People have been on social media like, oh, I use
serrum and maybe grow my edges back.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Every every time I see those videos, you know, I crnch.
I'm like, I'm just I just crunch anyway when it
comes to anything like hair growth, but especially it's like
y'all love Beyonce so much that y'all will say whatever
it takes to get Miss Tina to repost.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
You Like, y'all will say whatever, and it may maybe
it does work.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
But I just noticed an abundance, and I'm like this,
this seems kind of interesting because you don't really see
that a lot. But you know, she is a huge brand,
so people are going to buy, you know, pretty much whatever.
At to a certain extent, they're going to buy whatever.
She's selling until they don't until they don't en then
it's on to the next thing. Like that's you know
pretty much what it is. So did you if you
(10:10):
paid for the concert? Did you if you paid a
thousand dollars for those seats, would you think it was
worth it?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Mm see, I'm one of those people that's like, is
anything worth a thousand dollars?
Speaker 4 (10:22):
I hear you, I hear you.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I'm just saying, is anything.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I thought it was an amazing show, Okay, I would
say that. I think it's for somebody who I didn't
really understand Cowboy Carter like that as a body of work.
But I was listening to it on Spotify right. I
was listening to it on like computer speakers. Okay, So
when you go see the show, it's like a whole
theatrical musical experience.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
They have like interludes.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
It's very it's like the performances are fused with the song.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
So I was like, oh, I get it. Now I
can get jiggy with Cowboy Card. I get it. It
makes way more since live than it does.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
You're not about to be playing this now. You're not
about to be at home.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
If she drops the live version. Yeah, because remember back,
I mean gen Z.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
They don't know, but we used to have the live
versions of a lot of a lot of albums we love,
and we still play like DJ's always played Erica by
Dude Tyron. Yeah, that was on the live version of
the album. And that song wasn't even on the basic
Baduism just spot Flow a Tree. Even Michael Jackson, like
(11:36):
you know, there's a whole generation of people who grew
up we had a lot of live albums, right, but
because of the talent deficiency or lack of live vocals,
we ain't really seen live albums in like almost two
decades now.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
They don't really come out like they used to.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
That's true. That's true.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Like MTV used to always play like Nirvana's live the
videos from that. Maxwell had one.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Even Jay Z know when he performed Takeover with the Roots.
Yes we're old on TV. Yeah, on the television.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
So you would buy, so you would buy the livery
or you would listen to the live version. I put
it that way, because you're not buying, but you listen
to the live version and you don't think it's necessarily
you don't think anything's worth a thousand dollars but you,
but it was a great show to you, and and.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Now I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
The most I do is five hundred dollars just because
it was the loudest I've ever heard of concert.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I'll say that. Okay, See now care for the Falcons like.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
This or for any sports team probably.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
In the nineties, they don't even it was so loud,
Like I went death halfway through. I don't even know
what songs you performed halfway through. Yeah, I was just
like it was so loud in it.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Yeah, I'm sure loud and overwhelming when it's like.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, but one thousand dollars plus another thousand dollars for
your outfit, plus another thousand dollars for either merch, travel, hotel, parking, yeah,
food and just anything tied to it, Sir Davis, sacred. Yeah,
it is for like the future box sit You're gonna
(13:26):
end them probably spending close to three K on your
whole beyond six.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Perience, ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I have I Okay, So I am like not going
to concerts anymore because I cannot afford them. And I
really feel like it's Beyonce's fault. I feel like she
priced out. She like priced out concerts to the max
that the average person can't afford it, but they're like
selling out. So it's just like, wow, people, do people
(13:53):
just have this extra money? I mean, I can't be
in people's pockets like that, but I find it very
hard to believe that a lot of people like just
have extra money to just be sending this thousand dollars
or are they like, you know, saving up for it
or whatever they're doing. I just find it hard to
believe a country that most people in paycheck to paycheck
that these concerts are filled with people. But also one
(14:16):
thing I noticed is a lot of people are going
to multiple shows, So it could just be also certain
certain levels of folks financial wise, certain salary wise, are
going to multiple shows. So maybe that's also why they're
selling out, because people are flying to different cities. But
I just I'm like kind of confused. I'm like, oh,
so everybody has money now all of a sudden to
go to these seven hundred eight hundred dollar concerts. And
(14:39):
I realized all the concerts are like this now, Like
when I was looking at Kendrick seats, I'm like, they're
so expensive, like seven hundred eight hundred dollars for Kendrick seats,
and I feel like every artist is now maxing out.
I just I was looking at Chris Brown tickets. Now,
granted the city that was looking at, they're sold out.
The second to the last row people were reselling for
(15:00):
three hundred and seventy five dollars a piece.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Are they gonna get that?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Probably not, but that's after taxes and fees. That is
over four hundred dollars for the second to the last
row in the venue. And I love Chris Brown, and
I cannot imagine. It doesn't mean I just can't imagine
spending four hundred dollars to be second to the last row,
and for the floor seats they were going for like
two thousand and five thousand dollars. And I feel like
(15:24):
it's out of control now, the reselling, but not just
the reselling, because it's not just the resale prices. The
official prices are high to begin with, and then people
are like doubling their prices. And I feel like these
concerts pretty soon, who's going to be going to these concerts?
Because even though I'm saying that now, however, these these
shows are sold out, so clearly people are paying but
(15:44):
how long is this going to last? And what's happening
is artists that don't deserve to sell tickets for five
hundred dollars are now selling tickets for five hundred dollars.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
So that's really the thing, which also leads me to Essen's.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Music Festival, when I saw a lot of people complaining about, oh,
there's no big artists, and those big artists, who can
they afford? All the big artists are Beyonce, Ken Drake.
I mean, if we could throw Drake in the mix,
can they afford those artists? Because these artists are charging
so much money for their tickets for just them, I
can't imagine festivals picking up these artists moving forward because
(16:17):
they're just not going to have the money. Like these
festivals are going to have to move back to the
A listeners. I feel like the era of A listeners
music wise being or superstars I'll say superstars to the
A listeners, superstars being at these music festivals.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
I don't think it's happening anymore.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I don't think it's the thing because I don't think
they can afford them now They've they've maxed out their prices.
And I was talking to a guy last night at
the one of the events that Alex and I went
to a musical industry he is a part of He
is apartment part I guess management for a pretty big
rap artists, and we were talking about how much are
(16:54):
these artists costs? He was like, well, you know, sometimes
people just have to work with the especially if it's
a black brand. You know, get three fifty in seat
of five hundred thousand. But I'm like, are these artists
gonna do that though? Are these artists and these managers
gonna say, hey, we normally charge five hundred thousand for
thirty minutes, but for y'all, we could do it for
two to fifty.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I just think that that era is over.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I don't think we're ever getting the essence music festivals
with the Beyonce's anymore. I don't think it's ever gonna
happen again. I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
M Well, this is beyonce fault, really.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I said, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
This is her fault. It is, yeah, but it's also.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I mean, it's just weird to see so many people
go and pay this money. But the analytics, the hard
data is that people don't have this money. So it's like,
are we using payment.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Plans and I'm the Claria queen.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Are we putting these are we paying everything on Klara
after pay? Are we borrowing money from institutions back? Because
right now, because of the Beyonce boom, it's like all
the time. It's just like football, pro sports. If somebody
(18:12):
gets one thing, then the next the second pick, third pick,
fourth pick, everyone's like, I want that thing. So the
higher you get, like if the first round pick gets
a five hundred million dollars deal, as you can see
nine in sports, even in baseball, m the next the
next generation, you're going to be.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Paying seven eight hundred million the way it's going for
one person.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
And then you're not even talking about soccer, where they're
already getting paid two hundred and fifty million, three hundred million,
five hundred a year to play soccer.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Yeah excuse me, football, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
So because Beyonce, the boom is thirteen hundred. Chris Brown's
people is like, we could get five hundred, we can
give a thousand and when if Rihanna comes back, which.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Is highly unlikely as.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
An artist before, yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
But you know, if you put money on the table
for Rihanna, like you can make a billion yeah touring. Yeah,
once you have your your baby and you don't have anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
She can. The market could go up. She could be like,
I want fifteen hundred.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Dollars mm hmm for three hundred level.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
So luckily for them, though, there's no other artists that
can command Beyonce like prices.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
They can.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah, that's true. She she is, she has y has
she hit the ceiling?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
We don't ye because even wasn't charging that and level,
but even he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Doing that, so he was still high.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Though I felt like Usher was still high.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I'm not gonna lie, like I still felt like his
Vegas resident residency, I do think it was hot. However,
there weren't really any be seats in there, especially for residencies,
they're usually not huge arenas, so to me it wasn't
as bad. But like when you're going to like a
Beyonce level show and there's like three hundred and four
hundred level seats and huge, huge arenas, that's way different
(20:13):
than like a Vegas residency. So yeah, I mean, I
think she she definitely has started this trend and now
everyone and I'm saying everyone thinks they can charge almost
as much because like you said, they can't charge with
huge things. However, people are buying it, so clearly I'm
just out of the mix. And maybe I'm the only
one that can't afford to go to spend six hundred
(20:33):
dollars on the ticket to go see Kendrick Lamar or
five hundred dollars to go see Chris Brown. Like maybe
I'm the only one because they're selling out, So somebody lying, somebody.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I think people are, you know, half of it is resellers.
And then and I'm one of those people that's like, okay,
so I sat on the floor for Beyonce, but I'm like,
is this really worth thirteen hundred dollars because you can
see Beyonce because she like walks down this this little runway,
(21:05):
and it's like, is that to me as a non
like hivan until now, Yeah, was.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
That worth thirteen hundred dollars to me? No?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Now, if she walked through the crowd right like she
came down like her dances do and walk through the
crowd or something, then that's different. But you could get
a good seat, like you know, we've been to a
lot of shows and we get a good seat like
toward the middle, and you.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Can pay like three to five hundred dollars.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Whoa, but the look.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
For me wants the look that I was just about
to say, everybody wants to look. For some reason, I
noticed that night for everybody that was on my timeline
had floor seats everybody. So I'm like, we're floor seats
extra cheap that day because every single person that I
followed was on the floor the day for nightfour, I
was like, wow, okay, Like I mean, I'm not in
(21:57):
anybody's pocket. So I'm not trying to say, like you know,
I'm not trying to say an think about finances, but
what I am trying to say is like all of
y'all everybody.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Was on the floor night Nightfoard.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I was like, wow, but it looked again, it looked
like an amazing experience.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
But I think you money, Yeah, we're telling you now.
They was on the floor beyond.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
And they all you know what, that's why.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Honestly, on my TikTok feed, which aren't actually friends, but
you know, like I'm just scrolling the for you page
a lot of cowboy Carter content. I'm like some people's
content isn't especially because I'm like everybody else has the
same view you had, so it's like, but it really
is for social media purposes, like you and our friend
Jess that went to the concert had second row seats.
(22:45):
Y'all's video was like amazing because y'all had really really
great access. But all the other videos, I do know,
it's definitely for aesthetic purposes. Like I don't know, I
don't know if you know this, because I don't think
you're you know, you're not TikToker like that. Everybody was
going live during the concert, and it's like, are you
even enjoying the concert? You just want to show people
that you're there, Like you are literally going live the
(23:06):
entire like I don't I don't understand, like the entire concert,
y'all are going live. So I watched quite a bit
of it the day that I had FOMO when you
guys went to the concert, and that was the first
time I actually watched some I watched it because I'm like, oh,
I'm tired of all the lives, but also I'm like,
enjoy the event. Why are you a live for everybody else?
First of all, have you paid your one thousand dollars.
(23:26):
I'm not giving y'all the concert for free if I
paid one thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah, but that's the answer. That's the answer to all
the questions about a.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Why of people pay all of this money or they
look yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Because so people do that on YouTube, Like you know
in media, if you wonder why somebody posted like a
whole press conference on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
It's to make the money. And people do it all
the time.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
They haven't banned this yet and TikTok, I don't think
they've banned live streaming. But you can actually monetize that,
so they're cashing in on Like if you go to
like a comic con, if you go to like Disney's
D twenty three, you can record a whole panel that
no one else can can see because they're at home,
(24:16):
and then you post it. And so some of those
if you go on YouTube, a lot of the panels
have like two point three million views, a million views.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Because everyone is at home, Like, oh, I have.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Fomo, but I want to watch it on TikTok. I
want to watch it. And I think people are banking
on their future creator career. Yes, Like I'm spending the
thirteen hundred dollars to be here. I want to be
a socialite. I want to be on the scene. I
want people to see that I'm doing this.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I saw a lot of people watermarking their videos that
we all had because we were all there right.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
As if because everyone thinks that they're a brand now,
so it's like as part of your brand.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
You gotta have your cowboy out fit. Yep. And there's
somebody who's been doing roundups and galleries. They have gotten
way more.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Like intricate, way more luxurious, way more like over the
top feathers.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Yes, like handmade, yes, getting things customed.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Real eagle claws.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Like alligator, any kind of animal that you can put
on the outfit as cowboy esque.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Wait, the last concert, what was it all? Everybody wears
silver or something? What was the last concert for Renaissance
Glex silver or something? Okay, I do like that she
has that theme going where she started that, because I
don't recall. I mean, there's probably some like pop artists
that have done something like that, where like you wear
(25:48):
something that resembles them or something, But that was the
first time I've ever seen in masks, like people wearing
having there's a theme to what you wear, and everybody participated.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I was thinking about your boy, now you know your boy.
Come on, we can't forget about Frankie.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
With the all white okay, yes, and.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Then forget about Prince with everywhere purple and had they
their cheeks out.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
I don't recall anybody having their cheeks out at Prince.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I will say as a historian, I will give Janet
she was one of the first to do that, because
you know, I went to Rhythm Nation because I'm me too.
I remember everyone was wearing like lesser like she.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Even if you go back and watch your videos.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Everyone had all like that leather black esthetic like that.
No kind of black panther is more and so like
punk punk.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Like the Rhythm video.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah, kids, if you don't know Janet back and nineteen.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Ninety, yeah yeah, because that was my very first concert,
was the Rhythmation tour. Yep, that was my first one.
And then like Hammer, I started going to like EMC
Hammer and all the all that kind of stuffy already know, yeah,
when you could.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Go to very specific things.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Okay, Okay, I never paid Honestly, I don't remember because
I was like five when I went to that show,
but I don't remember it. I mean I could see
people wearing like all black and like the head like
really trying to mimic the rhythmation video, but I didn't
know that was like a thing or like did she
tell people to do that? But I don't even know
if Beyonce told people to do that, Like did Beyonce say, hey,
(27:34):
everybody wear silver for Renaissance, Hey, everybody wear cowboy costumes
or whatever for Cowboy Carter, Like I didn't know if
that was a thing that she did or if it
was just like you know, her fans were just like, Oh,
we're gonna go all out, We're gonna where, We're gonna
go spend hundreds of dollars on some country gear. I
don't know what it was, but.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Well, she did say for Renaissance, to wear your metallic
ChIL okay, she did put that on social media. But
I think, like for the years, it just depends on
what the fandom is, because you know, like Nicki Minaja's fans,
everybody wears paint dresses like barbies, you know, that whole
Japanese style. So I'm sure you know, every every artist
(28:14):
could be like, well.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
My fans was dressed like this, right like that, right,
you know, Travis.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Scott fans dressed like I was gonna say something, but
I can't say what clothes that they can't move in.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
You just dressed like op topic employees, right exactly.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I was like really really tight jeans and things with
a lot of buckles or something.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, Like for most big artists, you can tell what
the fandom is like if you didn't know who had
a concert, but you see them walking back to the hotel, Yeah,
you can pretty much tell. The barbs. You can pretty
much tell like Taylor Swift, the Swifties, friendship, bracelests, you know,
they just like they shop in anthropology. Oh, they just
(29:00):
dressed hippies, fairies, hippie fairies whatever. M But for the
most part, like the very specific, the very like very
very very specific. Beyonce can say that she piered that, yeah,
because like it was like me tallic silver, and then
it was very specific. But the cowgirl and then the
(29:22):
act three is like rock Oh, people think, I mean
I doubt, I highly doubt she's gonna drop a rock out.
But if it is, then you're gonna see people dressing
like remember in Atlanta party like a rock star. It
was like a very specific year and a half where
everyone was dressing like rock stars.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, rock stars are like emo or that emo. Look,
that's that's wild. But I mean her fans it was
fun me to watch. I just saw a lot of
crazy outfits. So yeah, it was funny to us to
watch all the outfits and stuff. I mean, like you mentioned,
there's some extravagant o office that I was like, oh,
that is cute. Like there are some that I'm like, oh,
(30:06):
like you could wear that like out, you know, somewhere else.
But then there were some that I was like, Okay,
You're never gonna wear any of those pieces ever again.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
So you're gonna have to figure that out. Sis. But yeah,
I just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I mean, I congratulations to you guys that went to
Cowboard Carter, to financial stable, people who were able to
go to Cowboy Carter, because apparently all of the statistics
about Americans living paycheck to paycheck is not the case
because y'all were outside, y'all were there, y'all were out.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
So black families, households having the lowest per household income
in America.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
What was it the last time I checked, it was
like twenty six thousand wow median.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Wow, that's really for black household compared to that everyone
else was like seven eighty.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Yeah, like black folks we had the strangest statistics because
it's like we have the highest spending power. Mh Like
when we spend, like you said, essence face, when we
go and we support something, we have the most bankable
dollar in the world. But we make less for household
than anybody else.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Which probably means that we spent outside our means. That's conversation.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
That's another.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
But I mean, doesn't that kind of say we spent
outside our means? Like I hope that people didn't go
into debt to have a Cowboy Carter experience. I hope
that's not the case, but I'm willing to bet that
a strong thirty percent. Look again, I put stuff on Clarna.
I do not care. You know I would put stuff
on Klarna. I'm gonna pay it off in my four
(31:55):
payments every two weeks. I don't mind Klarna, but I'm
not doing it. But you know what, I'll say this,
everybody has their things of what they pay for, so
I can't get mad. You know, some women I see
people arguing with hairstylists today about oh, I can't believe
you charge on a thousand dollars, and they're like, well,
I'm booked, so what's your problem. Like, I'm booked, you
just can't afford me. So But also that same person
(32:18):
is buying thousand dollars pair of shoes that doesn't want
to pay a thousand dollars for their hair. So in
the perspective, there are certain things that I will spend
one thousand dollars on, but I'm not spending a thousand
dollars on a concert.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
If I'm spending a thousand dollars on something, it's something
that I can get some money back for it, which
is like, you know, I used to have a thing
with purses and stuff. If I spend a thousand dollars
on a bag, I can probably sell it for seven
hundred and eight hundred the least. I can't sell my
experience of a Beyonce concert or anybody's concert. I can't
sell that experience, and I can't bottle that experience up,
like of course I can have my memories, but yeah,
it's too expensive for me for what I like to
(32:51):
spend money on.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
It's not for me. It's just not my thing. But again,
congratulations to you all.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Even we need even to talk about getting your hair done.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Hair because I saw a lot of getting their hair done,
getting their makeup done. And again the custom the custom outfits.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
So the makeup, y'all are really paying five hundred dollars
to get your makeup done.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Oh, I don't know nothing about that.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I'm only I've seen, like you know, normal rates are
like one point fifty that's normal rate.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
And see, what I think a lot of people are
also wanting to do is do things with a brand,
which we did, which we were lucky enough to do
with Marriott. Shout out to Marriott, my new family for life.
It's like a lot of people see that you can
have a very different experience with a brand.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yeah, it's like in Atlanta alone, it was like you
can go to the Delta lounge, you can.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Go to this lounge. Yeah. For the last tour, Lexus
had a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
So the brands also it's spending a lot of money,
but they're also not spending as much as they used to. Yeah,
so I think everybody is feeling like, well, it would
seem that some people are feeling the crunch. But the
way they Lanta looked, the way letter was sold out, Yes,
Like where is everybody getting.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Their money from? What is everybody doing? What is there?
Speaker 3 (34:23):
I mean because you you just got back from Essence Fest,
so you just paid for that mm hmm, and then
you know you might have student loans. Then you got
like the personal upkeep, and then the way the gross
grocery price is crazy and you're not cookies. Like at
this point, a lot of people are like, it's cheaper
to eat out now than it is to get groceries.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah. So if you're eating out every day and it's
like do people have three jobs?
Speaker 1 (34:51):
They might somebody's I told you we have to investigate
on it. On one episode. We're gonna have to investigate
and break down, like y'all are spending a lot of money,
where is it coming from?
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah? And we always say no one in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Had works nobody, So I'm trying to figure out myself.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
What we're not in anyone's pockets.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
It's just thirteen hundred dollars for a show chow and
then this is like summer, we got a whole nother month. Yeah,
so if you went on vacation for your birthday, you
went to Essence Fish, you went to this show, and
then a lot of people are going to Disney.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
A lot of people like when people say that the traffic.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
At Disney is is insane.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Now you could barely walk.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
And it's like a Monday damn, and your kids is
not even in school and they're supposed to be in school.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
M Like, I saw a lot of kids at Cowboy Carter.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I saw a lot of a lot of kids on
regular days at Disney. I saw a lot of kids
at Essence. So you also got to pay for the
kids to go.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Look, one thing I know now is everybody has money.
So I don't know what b simone talking about finances
because I'm like, it seems like every everybody has money.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
So I don't know, I don't know what anybody's talking about.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
But yeah, we definitely, we definitely have to get into
break down somebody somebody's topics for other episodes because uh, yeah,
that's we need to put that, put that in the queue,
We need to put that in the queue.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I saw somebody on.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Social media, Oh you know, I see a lot of
people a lot of parents saying like I can't even.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Take my kids to the movies anymore. Yeah, but then
it's like I see them.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Saying that, but then it's like you you other people
are paying to go to the concert, but you can't
pay what eighty dollars for a family afford to go.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
To the movies.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Man, So yeah, put that in to investigate. We will
be investigating twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
And what's crazy is Klara said the other day that
people are paying back their loans.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
But they said I think they said most of it
was groceries, and then they said most of it was
grocery based, which I can understand that more. And I
don't feel as bad because it's groceries because that means
that people really need the groceries. I would be really
upset if it's because of people buying purses and concert tickets.
That's when I'd be like, Okay, y'all wrong for that.
(37:32):
But yes, we need we need to talk more about
that on another episode for sure.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Well, we'll be back. We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Soon with another episode. Yeah, if we still the concerts.
You can follow me at Lexi with the Curls and
Speaker 3 (37:49):
You follow me at Alexandro Underscoreglacias likes but what it
is yes,
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