December 23, 2024 • 34 mins
Bram Weinstein and Logan Paulsen give a breakdown of the improvable victory over the Philadelphia Eagles. They discuss the magic of Jayden Daniels and the resilience of the defense. Then, the guys address those pesky Eagles fans who live in our comments! Finally, who will hold the Big Bram Commanders Championship Belt this week!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coming up on this edition of The Booth Review. Logan
Jaden is the man.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
He is, indeed him. And then we get after those
Eagles fans that were in the comments of our postgame
shows and set them straight, right.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Bram, Yeah, good luck catching up to all of them
around the world who just can't believe what they saw.
I'm going to sit in for London to and hand
out the championship belt to guess who that's coming up
on the Booth Review. Welcome into the Christmas edition of
the Booth Review podcast. I'm Bram Weinstein with Logan Paulsen.
(00:32):
Were brought to you by Microsoft Surface Powering a Better Game.
Logan Boy Santa came early this year, want to come back?
That was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Uh yeah, unbelievable. I would say unbelievable. But every single week,
every single game, this team does stuff that's unbelievable. So,
you know, like it was funny. I think we were
on the broadcast and it was like they had a
minute and fifty one seconds left, they had the return.
It was like it felt like a lifetime, It felt
like it was totally within reach, and I think that
was probably the most believable moment of the whole game.
(01:02):
I think the thing that really stuck out to me
is unbelievable was the five turnovers really six if you
count the failed fourth out conversion early in the game there,
and for them to overcome that and beat a really
good football team, it is just incredibly impressive.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Like I want to start with the headline, which is Jaden.
I mean, I think it's impossible to just overlook his play,
and obviously it's a team win, and I don't want
to take away from what all the other people did here,
but we were even in the middle of the broadcast,
and I think the first real moment moment of it
was the fourth and eleven run where he just made
a play and made five guys miss and it wasn't
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a design draw. He just made a play, kept a
drive alive. There's still down two scores at this point
when it happened, and I think we were laughing on
the broadcast, going, yeah, the playbook is tell Superman to
put his cape on. And we had what I'm out
of adjectives for this, because I keep forgetting he's a rookie.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
He doesn't act like one.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
He acts not just like the rookie of the year,
but a top five quarterback in the NFL right now.
And I don't think that's an overstatement.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, I mean, I think the thing about this game
that was so hard and up on the rewatch that
last night was like he didn't play technically as well
as he did in the New Orleans game. Like the eyes,
the feet wasn't all there, tight window throws, completion percentage
was down, all those types of things. But I think
what you're kind of alluding to there is the thing
that's just incredibly hard to quantify, which is the playmaking ability. Right,
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you get the completion of Diami backed up in your
own ends, and you get the completion of Arry for
the touchdown, it's fourteen to twelve. And then you talked
about that sequence where he has the he can converts
a fourth and four, He converts a four and eleven,
fourth and eleven, which is just unbelievable. And then you know,
kind of breaking the pocket again that played oz the
red zone efficiencies that the team saw in the game,
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and it really was like him the offense. And so
it was really hard for me analytically to kind of
digest because it's one of those things where you're saying
he's doing a lot of things that are, you know,
maybe less than ideal. He missed this throw, he didn't
hit this throw. But then you weigh that against just
this pure playmaking prowess and you kind of say that's
something that's really special, like put the game on his shoulders,
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go win it, and led to like a really special result.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I'll let you nitpick all you want. Tell The truth
Monday for me is this very few people can do
the things he did, and he's doing it regularly, and
it's just it's gotten to the point now where it's
validated not only his draft position, but as you know,
having played here and I've lived this, you know, we've
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waited for this person to show up here for a
long time and I hope that this is the beginning
of a long ride with him. But the early returns
in a December game against an art rival who might
be the best team in the NFL. And we'll get
to their excuses later because I don't even really want
to hear it, but like in a December game where
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literally everything's up against you and you are almost mathematically
excluded from scoring the amount of points that they scored
based on all the turnovers and how many times you're
actually going to touch the ball and have an opportunity
to do what he did. That was amazing, And there
are very very very few players that come along that
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do amazing in this league. So I'm just kind of
stuck on and maybe it's not looking at it in
most cases the way that you would look at it.
In this case, I'm just kind of in awe of
it because it really was just a remarkable performance by
him yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, I mean, they'll get it twisted, like I'm in awe.
It's just different. It's just different than what you know,
Like you know when you've watched Tom Brady, watch Peyton Manning,
watch Drew Brees, like there is an efficiency and a
methodical nature to that kind of quarterbacking. And then when
you have a guy like this who can just straight ball,
like he can do the methodical stuff, but he can
also ball Like That's the thing that it's hard to
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kind of explain to somebody. It's like when again when
you look at like the numbers, you're like, oh, this
is like pretty good performance. You know, two interceptions five
obviously that's incredible, But it's the ability to just elevate
the offense through kind of just I don't know, like
sheer athleticism, sheer talent, sheer will and again like there's
a lot of other factors that play here. I thought
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the offensive line pass protected much better than they did
in this game than they did in the second game,
which I'll do some opportunities down the field, helping some
of the red zone opportunities. The defense figured out in
the second half a lot on the offense to gain
more possessions and Jayden to do his thing in terms
of maximizing scoring touchdowns. I think you also look at
cliff in the play design for the red zone specifically.
I mean, they were outstanding in terms of breaking kind
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of these match coverages that Philly likes to play. So
there was a lot of things that went into it.
But ultimately, like I think to your point, like Jayden's
the driver, and you know it's in a game where
you're kind of saying, like this is the this is
the biggest test for him of the year, because this
is the best defense of the that they're going to play,
and it's a division rival, it's a big moment. It
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was really impressive that he was able to get it done,
and again they has helped him out with penalties and
you know Jayden and Daniel Jalen Hurts excuse me being out.
They had some people get kicked out of the game.
Obviously defensive league touchy Gunner Johnson, But you got to
win the game. And when the whole deck was stacked
against and we found a way to get it done.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, I think what's even more telling too, Like so
throughout the year they've had to answer a lot of
questions and one of the big ones from the start
was who's number two, Like outside of Terry McLaurin, and
Noah Brown kind of emerged as that person at least
in targets, catches impact in the game. He became a
number two. They had described this as by committee. Noah
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Brown gets hurt, and for a couple of weeks the
big question was who's number two here? And the whole
bi committee thing has stood out to me and I
think yesterday more exemplified like this idea of this team
is so together that two players who hadn't scored a
touchdown the entire season rarely were targeted. Crowder had barely
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played for most of the season because he was on
ir both score two touchdowns. Crowder is the player who's
trusted on the last play of the game, because it's
the play that they over and over talked about repping
in practice. They trusted to put the ball to somebody
who had played three four games the entire season. A
lot of these the keys in the locker room telling
us after the game on the forty nine yard touchdown,
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that was the busted coverage where they got a free play,
whether they knew or didn't know that they had a
free play at the time. Like he didn't run the
route he was actually supposed to run. He just had
a connection with Jayden who saw this breakdown. And this
isn't Terry McLaurin the person you would think of they're
going to go to first, or zach Ertz the the
person who think they'd go to second. Here they are
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in critical clutch moments and it's the secondary players that
he's finding. I think it's an other very telling aspect
about where Jayden is in his development, where the offenses
and the buy in of the entire group out there.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, but I think you also got to give a
lot of credit. I think you are You're giving credit
to you know Jamison, Crowder and Oz and the reason
you got to give credit to those guys is they're
pros man. I think they have experience. Like you know,
I think I said this on one of the postgame
shows yesterday, Like when you that touchdown to Jamison crowded
at the end of the game, I'm not sure you
get that same result if a veteran player is not
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in that position. And I think people forget that because
they haven't played a lot, because they're kind of rotational guys.
They have a lot of experience, and that experience is
tremendously valuable. And I think when a quarterback understands and
sees it the same way as the receiver, it leads
to these special plays. And you know, like Iz didn't
run the route as called, but like it takes a
veteran to understand, hey, like they've busted their coverage. I'm
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dropped on to be open. Let's hope the quarterback can
find me. And again, that's a tremendous play by Jaden
to kind of elevate that and find that opportunity. It
also speaks to the unquantifiable element of those two players
specifically and the fact that they have this ability to
because of their experience, to elevate offensive production and be
where they're supposed to be in attack coverages in the
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right way. And I think that's just really special. So again,
like they deserve their flowers as much as anybody because
that's really challenging to do. It's challenging to coming off
the bench and do that stuff and stay locked in
and make those plays. But you see their experience and
the value of it in those moments.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, let me ask you just in general, from the
first time that they played them to the second time, obviously,
the effectiveness of the pass offense was wildly different from
the first meeting to the second one. A lot of
this came in the second half, but and a lot
of it also came after most.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Of the turnovers had occurred.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
So take me through what you saw about why they
were more effective being able to throw the ball against Philadelphia,
who's got the number one defense in the league.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah. So, I think when you look at the first
half specifically, you see a lot of kind of bubble screens,
a lot of screens and kind of RPO or pre
snap with pre snap run decisions, runner pass decisions, not
true RPOs based on leverages, and that was kind of
a big driver in the first half. Obviously, the turnover
is a big element because it gives you a short
field in the red zone. I thought Cliff kind of
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exemplified some elements that really showed an evolution from the
first matchup to now, Like just the kind of concepts
they were running, the way it's designed to attack the match,
coverage is the way it's designed to attack rules, and
kind of play with defensive back eyes. I thought that
was excellent. But in the second half, I think they
again the number one driver to me was something that
happened in the first half with those two long completions
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to Diami and Terry, Like that is the thing that
changes it because one of the things about that defense,
and you can see it in how they play their coverage,
is they're kind of relying on the rush to get
home and they're kind of play in between coverage responsibilities.
So once you can beat them vertically and get over
the top, they have to stop it up. So all
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of a sudden, all the stuff that makes you excellent.
I'm talking about Jayden Daniels now that makes this offense
excellent in terms of the quick underneath. Decision making now
becomes extremely prevalent, and I thought they ran a couple,
especially in the two minute drive, like a spot. They
ran a stick again quick game three step get the
ball out, and earlier in the early in the first matchup,
that was just not a viable solution because of how
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tight they were playing their coverage. Now a little softer,
a little bit looser, more opportunities there, for sure. And
again I think there were little tweaks, like they were
trying to run a lot of like corner with a
flat underneath and an outside release, go to again manipulate
those the match defense, and they would do a great
job matching. And then all of a sudden, zach Ertz
gets a catch where he literally just stops on the
same concept and catches the ball right over the middle
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of the field. And so I think in game they
made some nice adjustments. I thought Jayden was really aggressive.
I know people didn't like this throw, but I really
like the mindset that it shows. And what I mean
by that is there's a third and eleven right before
the fourth and eleven scramble where he kind of forces
the ball to terry on a dig and that's the
type of throw versus this defense you need to make
and that's the type of energy you need to make
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that throw. And so I thought there was just a
shift again, play a little softer coverages, some of the
quick game was more open, but Jadeen was much more aggressive.
And then the other element is, like you can't account
we talked about this already for his playmaking ability, like
that is something that is again like when we talked
about comparing this to New Orleans, like it's different, but
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the pure playmaking magnitude in this game was on full display.
And I think that again is as much as you
want to get technical about, Oh, they did this in
the first half, this and second half, Like Jaden was
just a baller and that's something that you can't quantify. Really.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, this is two weeks in a row that they've
come out with really unusual wins, close wins one where
in my opinion, they should have won by a lot
more in New Orleans that had they hit any of
the three open plays that they had with Terry mclurin
down the field, I'm not sure that game was ever close.
They got a number of penalties that kept New Orleans
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in it, and suddenly it looked a lot closer than
I think it was. And if you kind of rewatch
and go through it, you'll see all these opportunities, red
zone breakdowns, the misses on the big plays that were
open and there that really red like that score should
have never been that way. And then you get to
this week against a super Bowl contender, and you could
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not have had more mistakes to go against you, and
somehow they win anyway. And I can't kind of wait
to look back at this to see how this happened,
because for me, this one is hard to believe. Statistically,
overcoming minus four in the turnover margin against anybody is
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it's got to be in the single digit percentage of
games that are won by teams that do that, let
alone against a team that's twelve and two and legitimately
twelve and two and a ham lost in two and
a half months. So these two weeks are so telling
in very different ways about the makeup of this team
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to be able to overcome so many mistakes against a
really good team and win and does somehow get by
even though the score should have been very different in
a road game. This is a really this two week
period just tells me everything that I need to know
about the makeup and will and desire of the dan
Quinn team. And maybe that's the dan Quinn part of
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this whole thing.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, I mean absolutely, those these are great wins, you know,
great in different ways, honestly, But I think to your point,
the the kind of stick to itiveness and again, like
when you say, how does it happen? Like, obviously, the
philip Eagles go three for sixteen on third down. They're
not possessing the football the we need to possess the football.
They're not taking advantage of those extra possessions the way
they need to take advantage of those extra possessions. Obviously,
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dan Quinn steals two possessions with the fourth four in
the fourth and fourteen, or Jayden Daniel steals those possessions,
Jabrail capitalize score two touchdowns, and then you know they
have the drop pass at the end of the game,
which again kind of falls into that third down narrative
where they're not able to possess the football and win
the football game. And so obviously they turned the football
over a lot the Washington Commanders in this Philadelphia Eagles game.
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But the thing that I think sticks out to me
is that Philly wasn't able to do anything with it.
I mean in the second half they had like thirty
three yards of total offense. And obviously some of that's
inflated or some of that's misleading because the had a
lot of penalty yards as well. But I think that's
something that I look at and I say, like they
Philly left the door open in this game. And to
your point, obviously, it takes a special group of people,
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special group of competitors, special leadership to make sure that
you stay with it. I mean, it's twenty one to
seven in the first quarter, and like how many times
I was talking to Santani's like, man, I stopped watching
the game. And you've, I'm sure been a part of
games like that. I've covered games like that where it's
just not a thing. It's like the team has no
ability or resiliency to come back. And again, to the
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main point of the discussion here is like that was
not the case here. They stuck with it. They fought out,
they played physical on teams, they played great defense in
the second half, stopping the run. They did a lot
of really good things, were able to manufacture a turnover,
so it was really cool to see that level of belief.
And again, is that a Dan Quinn thing? Is that
a Jayden Daniels thing? I don't know, but it's definitely
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something that they've built here over the last couple months
of the season.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I mean, like Dan Quick said this after the game,
I felt this way too. The first quarter took a
long time to get through, with all the stoppages of play,
with all the turnovers, the touchdowns, we had a lot
of breaks that were occurring, and it was twenty one
to seven. I remember looking up at the clock in
the second quarters like seven and a half minutes something
like that, and I said on the air to you
it loved it. I go, there's a lot of time
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left here. And there's something about this team that made
me blurt that out. I don't think I would have
said that in years past. One because of the way
the quarterback plays, two, because of his penchant to come
back and not let anything get him down. He smiles
through all of it, cool, calm, collected. He's as clutch
as I've ever seen, especially for someone at his experience
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level here in the NFL. I mean, you just don't
see this very often. And then this team, like they're
doing this. The ones that got me that I was concerned,
like it's just not going to happen. The unlucky deron
payn face mask that gave Philadelphia a first down on
a third and sixteen where they were just running the ball.
They were running to set up a punt. They were
not going, they weren't trying to get the first down.
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That was a really bad break. The late interception was
a really bad break. And those were the ones where
I was like, Okay, now the clock's working against us here.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
But I remember even early I had this feeling like
this team's not out of it if they can just
stay with it.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah. But I think like you knows as again you
were there live and living in color, Like both of
those required a lot of stick to them miss to overcome.
And I think that's the thing is in years past,
that would be the straw that breaks the camel's back,
that would be the thing that pushes them over the
top and say, oh, we can't handle this anymore. Right,
And I think again, like when he threw the pick,
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I was like, defense needs to stop. And how many
times in years past have we not seen that? And
I could feel like you guys on the call, you
and Fletch on the call being like almost in disbelief
when DeVante Smith drops that pass. And that's the thing.
And again, it's so funny because they kicked the field goal.
They're down by five, and I remember we were talking
and it's like, oh, they have one fifty left, one
time out, like that's plenty of time. That's plenty of
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time for this team. And then they have this ridiculous
penalty on the on the kickoff right and give you
just give you some wife, And I think that's that's
an element of this team. And then you've talked about it,
we've fit it a couple of times. Now. Is it's different.
And I've played for teams where you believe in the quarterback,
and that belief in the quarterback gives you. It makes
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you play better on defense, it makes you putter on offense,
it makes you block a little bit better because you've
got that guy, You've got your Payton man, you've got
your Tom Brady back there that's saying, hey, like we
can get this done. We're never out of a game,
you know. And I think that's again something that makes
him exceptional and it's is it? Dan Quinn is in
Jayde Daniels. But I think when Dan and his press
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in his postgame presser was like, you know, we practiced
it a lot. I've practiced a lot other places, but
you need a guy to execute it. He's tipping his
hat to how special Jayden Daniels is the belief that
he gives the rest of the guys, I think, which
is which is pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, all right, let me ask you about a couple
of things that I'm wondering about. This is two weeks
running now, They've won penalties, turnovers are a big part
of the story. Also, a lack of a consistent run game.
This has been a top five rush offense. Take away
the scrambles and the amazing plays by Jayden. Let's go
to traditional run plays here, whether it's with Jayden scripted
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or more with b Rob and others, Jeremy McNichols, Chris Rodriguez,
whoever it may be.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
It's not happening right now.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And I know that's a really good defense that they
played on Sunday. What are you seeing with the run
game and can they turn that back around as the
season progresses here?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I mean that's something we talked about on the pregame
show yesterday was just how good this Philadelphia defense is.
And it's not only is their defensive line good. Their
linebackers are good. They're fast the football, their safeties fit
physically downhill. They've got corners that can tackle like they're fast. Man.
You watch that, You watch that Pittsburgh game, and you
just see a group of guys that are possessed to
get to the football at the fastest, most urgent level
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you can possibly be. So I knew run in the
football is gonna be tough because of the way specifically
those linebackers get downhill and fit runs and how disruptive
Jalen Carter is, Milton Williams and Jordan Davis. Those guys
are tough to deal with. And so this is going
to be challenging. And one of the things that sticks
out to me is they weren't able to commit to
the run as much as they wanted to. I don't
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think because of game flow. And two also stylistically, I
don't think they were able to get to the volume
of runs that they normally do to make them successful. So,
for example, we saw a little bit of quarterback trap.
We saw a little bit of wham with baits, and
those runs were a little bit more successful. There was
a little bit more air. And if you can come
back to those and hit those multiple times in the game,
all of a sudden, the efficiency of the quarterback runs,
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efficiency of the running back runs are much greater because
you found a little wrinkle that's giving you a schematic edge.
And again because of the game flow, because of the score,
because of the time that Philadelphia was able to possess
the football, specifically in the third quarter, I think there
needed to be more urgency and when you're in those situations,
you gotta throw the football right because you got to
score points. So I think in this game, again we
knew it was going to be tough. I think game
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flow dictated that was gonna be challenging. So yeah, I
think those are all factors that limit the effectiveness of
this team run the football. But I am really excited
to watch them versus Atlanta, and I think they can
get back on track versus that defense, which is a
very talented, very diverse defense. But it feels like a
game for them to get back on track.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
And also this was by far had probably not close.
Brian Robinson one of his worst games, and I know
him like he's a carryover, so he's been here for
a few years. I know he's gonna internalize this. I
can't wait to see him next week because I have
a feeling you're going to see somebody who feels like
he owes the team one from a week ago. And
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I can't wait to see what he puts on the
field against Atlanta Sunday night as well.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, I mean, obviously he's been a special a special
talent this year. Really the physicality, the vision, the competitiveness,
and like you alluded to that there, like Tanna mentioned
it in one of the shows you recorded today, like
just how dejected and how disappointed he was in his performance.
And guys like that are fun to play with because
they are eager to get back to practice. They're eager
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to get back to work. And I definitely think b
rob fits that mold.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
All right, you noticed, Well, it's hard to not notice
the Philly outrage and excuse making that's been occurring. So
should we go full sports radio here? Do you want
to run through the litany of Philly?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I think we should full sports radio. I'm excited to
get you to do something fun here today. So the
segment is, and I love skitz and bits, Brahm. You
know that. I don't know. You don't love them as
much as I do, But I love them skits and bits.
We're going to go cry Eagles cry or eh, Okay,
you got a point there, and I'm curious to see
what you got to say about some of these. So
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these comments are from real Eagles fans in our postgame
live chat. And you know Philadelphia fans, they're kind of trolls.
They get out there and they like to be all
over the place. And so these are some things that
I'd like to throw to you as a Philadelphia Eagles fan.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
So the refs robbed us false start on the last Washington.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
TD we were robbed. What do you say to that
Philly fan? What do you say? Oh?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
What do I say?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
What do you say? Bram?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
What do I say? What do I say?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Let's see, I think I've gone at least three to
four years asking every coach how they get away with
this on every single play that they run. So Lane
Johnson shortened my lotta. They invented this. Sorry guys, Oh,
I'm so sorry that you realize that you've been cheating
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for five years now. And oh another team does it
and that's a false start, okay, pal, Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Lane Johnson's a saint. He did invent that though, real
talk like football, like you're a guy that he's the
guy that gets that started. Man, And uh, I say
what you want specifically in two minute drives, like that's
how tackle set. Watch any two minute drive in the NFL.
You're gonna get that, right and uh and I think I've.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Been screaming about this for years.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I think that's a false start too, but the referees
of the competition Committee don't think it is, and you
idiots invented it, so that's your problem.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Now, all right, Okay, So next thing, the only one
because Kenny Pickett was in and not Hurts. Kny Pickett's
terrible Hurts is amazing.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
He's a god one. I don't think Kenny Pickett was
that bad.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Number one two, and this is more important, what position
on defense does Jalen Hurts play because I don't remember
him playing any position on defense or your number one
rated defense getting five but really six turnovers and giving
up thirty six points anyway, So sorry, that one also
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does it fly? And also on the backup quarterback thing, Guys,
you won the NFC Championship against the forty nine ers
team that had to run the wishbone because they ran
out of quarterbacks. And I don't know how many backup
quarterbacks we've thrown out there and.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
You haven't given our wins back.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Remember when Garrett Gilbert had to play because our whole
team at COVID. Oh, I bet where you were. Were
you taking credit for that win? Were you okay?
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Okay? Yeah? I mean it is Kenny Pickett as good
as Jalen Hurts. Probably not, But this is part of
the deal. Like you have a quarterback that runs a lot,
he's gonna get nicked, like he got nicked in our
first game a little bit. You remember that brand when
we covered that game he was out for trying to play.
Is like, it's part of the It's part of the
price you pay. And so as much as Phillip fans
(26:16):
want to be salty about this, like this is part
of the deal.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
You know, played really poorly, I would hear that as
an excuse. I don't think he did. Like, I don't
think he played really poorly. So I'm like we're the
ones that turn the ball over five times? What are
you all complaining about?
Speaker 4 (26:34):
It is true, It is true, all right, we beat ourselves.
Washington is frauds. They're terrible, a little harsh that one.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Ten and five. That's listen, the record is what you are.
So we're not frauds. That's number one. But beat themselves.
I'll hear some of that out. Actually, at least that's
a complain about yourself. And Nick Sirianni after the game
called themselves, and I actually thought that was.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
A really good word for it.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
They had problems with substitution patterns, They had too many
people on the field for one of the touchdowns, they
had not enough people on for another one. They how
many fifteen yard penalties they get? They were unhinged like
and everything reason I mean the media is they are
unhinged at all times. And it manifested itself again. You
guys got six turnovers and couldn't win the game. I mean,
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come on, and you had to get unhinged to allow
us to even get back into it. So actually that
is you're about right. You did blow it. Finally you've
gotten to the truth of the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, you're a crazy Eels fan like, yeah, you did
beat yourselves. Good for you. That's that's why you play
the games, guys, all right, So that I feel I
don't know, I don't know if the Philly fans are
gonna hear this, but they should feel better maybe about
Bram's great insight. And I think now we're going to
uh what is this big Brams Heavyweight contender championship belt?
(28:01):
So I've never done this before. I've got the belt.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
You love the bits? Holy cow? Do you love them?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Man?
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Well this's a big belt. Man? Yeah, big foot is this?
Does he wear this belt? And so you got to
kind of walk me through the thing here? Am I
supposed to introduce these? Are you introducing them? Like? What's
going on? Bram a good voice?
Speaker 3 (28:25):
So basically you want me to go full Michael Buffer?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
So yeah, I do want I want to see it.
I want to be your best.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
He actually comes at you. I can't do that. He
will if you, uh does you do his famous line?
He will sue you unt do that.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
But I'm saying, you know, do you do like a caricature?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Let's get ready to football?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Uh, Let's see last week's winner was Jayden Daniels off
of his amazing performance in New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
So he is the.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Title Uh, he's the title holder, and we have to
we had to pick somebody to, you know, go up
a kid stum, even though it's quite obvious who should
probably win the thing again. So I went with Jamison
Crowder because hey, the guy's been on an IR all year.
He makes a game winning touchdown catch with six seconds
left in the game. That's amazing. He had two touchdown catches.
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He's played a big role in keeping this offense moving
here over the last couple of weeks. He had a
couple of big plays in New Orleans as well. So listen,
he was punching up in weight class to have any
shot at this thing. And let's just end the nonsense
and give the belt back to Jaden Daniels, who today
is being called by any pundit anywhere except in Philadelphia
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the greatest quarterback of all time. So Jaden Daniels remains
are Big Bram slash fletch Championship belt holder.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Congratulations, I thought.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
You'd go like in the red corner, Jayden Daniels are
returning champion. Five touchdowns, two interceptions, weighing it at whatever
the thing is. You didn't do that though, You kind
of just did your normal analyst thing.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
So I'm sorry to disappoint you.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Secondly, this isn't live and Jason could edit that part
in if he likes, because I like it better. So
your instincts are better than mine. With the bits logan
skits and.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Bits, Baby, I do think that this was a tough one. No,
we can kind of go against the champ in this one.
Jane Daniels absolutely balled out. I'm surprised that Frankie Lub
didn't get me love like, uh, you know, with the interception,
a couple of sacks, a couple of TFLs. Obviously it
was great, a little bit more productive. Terry had a
big game, And why didn't you settle on Jamison Crowder
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as the challenger.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Well, you make you make a winning touchdown catch with
six seconds to go. It's hard to overlook that one.
So he just listened. All the other people he chose
were really good, really good options that weren't gonna win,
so we could give honorable mentions to.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
All of them if you like.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Okay, all right, Mike Tyson, Jane Daniels is Mike Tyson
back in the nineties. You were alive for that, right, broh.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yes, I was alive for that when Mike Tyson was
great and not doing stunts against Jake Paul. Yes, all
the younger generation thinkistum has been that was like a
joke and.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
It's really sad, actually really sad.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
It is sad. But this is Jane Daniels when Mike
Tyson was a beast. Because this is like just an
unprecedented performance by this guy. We gushed over him at
the beginning of the show and really like, we should
just give him this belt when the season's over. Maybe
you can get him on the show and you can
have Fletch give him the belt. That'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
We should do that. Yes, we should do that. I
agree with you.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
All right, real quick though, before we go, we basically
have a playoff game this weekend. For the Falcons, they
have a shot to win their division, but they're going
to be in big trouble if they lose. And for
Washington it's a winning in scenario. They can knock them out,
not entirely, but they can essentially knock them out dependent
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on the Buccaneers result that weekend, and Washington punch a
ticket to get into the playoffs, so we have a
playoff game Sunday night. I don't know how much you've
seen to the Falcon Jet, but which just kind of
your early what's your early take on it?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, I mean, I think they're really talented on offense.
They got a lot of playmakers that are really scary.
Their offensive line is is I think more consistent, one
of the more consistent groups in the NFL, maybe top
ten in the NFL. And then defensively, they do a
lot of kind of I'm gonna say exotic stuff. They
do a lot of stuff, and I think that can
be challenging for a young quarterback to kind of manage
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all those things. But I will say because they seem
to have a lot of play volume in and a
lot of rules in. There are a lot of coverage busts. However,
guys like Jesse Bates, they turned the football over a lot.
So I do think this is like it feels like
a very evenly matched game. If if Pennix comes out
in place, well, and that's something that there's just not
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enough data points on him at the moment.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I believe anything now London Logan London London.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yes, yeah, it's about the league, the thirty off.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Honestly, after a hail Mary and yesterday, what's the point
of preparing for these games anymore? I mean, like the
reality is anything could happen, and it's it's like, we
talked for all these hours about all these things that
are going to be important and then this guy does
that stuff, and it's like, what's the point.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Why are we even bobbing?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I will say, to your credit, you do a ton
of research. Into my credit, Like, we said that one
of the important things was going to be finding explosive
plays against this defense, the Philly defense, and they did that.
So I know that's not great nuanced analysis, but that's
what happened and they won. So that's why you tune
into our show for that stuff.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
That was actually a compliment to both of us, even
though it didn't feel like it.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
But it was all right, right, you got to go listen.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
We had all sorts of Christmas miracles. RFK legislation went
through somehow. Last that comeback was crazy. Santa is loving us.
We have been real nice this year, loving us. Happy holidays,
Logan
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Happy holidays, Brand, Appreciate you buddy and Happy holidays to
everybody listens to this show,
Coming up on this edition of The Booth Review. Logan
Jaden is the man.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
He is, indeed him. And then we get after those
Eagles fans that were in the comments of our postgame
shows and set them straight, right.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Bram, Yeah, good luck catching up to all of them
around the world who just can't believe what they saw.
I'm going to sit in for London to and hand
out the championship belt to guess who that's coming up
on the Booth Review. Welcome into the Christmas edition of
the Booth Review podcast. I'm Bram Weinstein with Logan Paulsen.
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Were brought to you by Microsoft Surface Powering a Better Game.
Logan Boy Santa came early this year, want to come back?
That was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Uh yeah, unbelievable. I would say unbelievable. But every single week,
every single game, this team does stuff that's unbelievable. So,
you know, like it was funny. I think we were
on the broadcast and it was like they had a
minute and fifty one seconds left, they had the return.
It was like it felt like a lifetime, It felt
like it was totally within reach, and I think that
was probably the most believable moment of the whole game.
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I think the thing that really stuck out to me
is unbelievable was the five turnovers really six if you
count the failed fourth out conversion early in the game there,
and for them to overcome that and beat a really
good football team, it is just incredibly impressive.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Like I want to start with the headline, which is Jaden.
I mean, I think it's impossible to just overlook his play,
and obviously it's a team win, and I don't want
to take away from what all the other people did here,
but we were even in the middle of the broadcast,
and I think the first real moment moment of it
was the fourth and eleven run where he just made
a play and made five guys miss and it wasn't
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a design draw. He just made a play, kept a
drive alive. There's still down two scores at this point
when it happened, and I think we were laughing on
the broadcast, going, yeah, the playbook is tell Superman to
put his cape on. And we had what I'm out
of adjectives for this, because I keep forgetting he's a rookie.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
He doesn't act like one.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
He acts not just like the rookie of the year,
but a top five quarterback in the NFL right now.
And I don't think that's an overstatement.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, I mean, I think the thing about this game
that was so hard and up on the rewatch that
last night was like he didn't play technically as well
as he did in the New Orleans game. Like the eyes,
the feet wasn't all there, tight window throws, completion percentage
was down, all those types of things. But I think
what you're kind of alluding to there is the thing
that's just incredibly hard to quantify, which is the playmaking ability. Right,
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you get the completion of Diami backed up in your
own ends, and you get the completion of Arry for
the touchdown, it's fourteen to twelve. And then you talked
about that sequence where he has the he can converts
a fourth and four, He converts a four and eleven,
fourth and eleven, which is just unbelievable. And then you know,
kind of breaking the pocket again that played oz the
red zone efficiencies that the team saw in the game,
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and it really was like him the offense. And so
it was really hard for me analytically to kind of
digest because it's one of those things where you're saying
he's doing a lot of things that are, you know,
maybe less than ideal. He missed this throw, he didn't
hit this throw. But then you weigh that against just
this pure playmaking prowess and you kind of say that's
something that's really special, like put the game on his shoulders,
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go win it, and led to like a really special result.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I'll let you nitpick all you want. Tell The truth
Monday for me is this very few people can do
the things he did, and he's doing it regularly, and
it's just it's gotten to the point now where it's
validated not only his draft position, but as you know,
having played here and I've lived this, you know, we've
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waited for this person to show up here for a
long time and I hope that this is the beginning
of a long ride with him. But the early returns
in a December game against an art rival who might
be the best team in the NFL. And we'll get
to their excuses later because I don't even really want
to hear it, but like in a December game where
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literally everything's up against you and you are almost mathematically
excluded from scoring the amount of points that they scored
based on all the turnovers and how many times you're
actually going to touch the ball and have an opportunity
to do what he did. That was amazing, And there
are very very very few players that come along that
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do amazing in this league. So I'm just kind of
stuck on and maybe it's not looking at it in
most cases the way that you would look at it.
In this case, I'm just kind of in awe of
it because it really was just a remarkable performance by
him yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, I mean, they'll get it twisted, like I'm in awe.
It's just different. It's just different than what you know,
Like you know when you've watched Tom Brady, watch Peyton Manning,
watch Drew Brees, like there is an efficiency and a
methodical nature to that kind of quarterbacking. And then when
you have a guy like this who can just straight ball,
like he can do the methodical stuff, but he can
also ball Like That's the thing that it's hard to
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kind of explain to somebody. It's like when again when
you look at like the numbers, you're like, oh, this
is like pretty good performance. You know, two interceptions five
obviously that's incredible, But it's the ability to just elevate
the offense through kind of just I don't know, like
sheer athleticism, sheer talent, sheer will and again like there's
a lot of other factors that play here. I thought
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the offensive line pass protected much better than they did
in this game than they did in the second game,
which I'll do some opportunities down the field, helping some
of the red zone opportunities. The defense figured out in
the second half a lot on the offense to gain
more possessions and Jayden to do his thing in terms
of maximizing scoring touchdowns. I think you also look at
cliff in the play design for the red zone specifically.
I mean, they were outstanding in terms of breaking kind
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of these match coverages that Philly likes to play. So
there was a lot of things that went into it.
But ultimately, like I think to your point, like Jayden's
the driver, and you know it's in a game where
you're kind of saying, like this is the this is
the biggest test for him of the year, because this
is the best defense of the that they're going to play,
and it's a division rival, it's a big moment. It
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was really impressive that he was able to get it done,
and again they has helped him out with penalties and
you know Jayden and Daniel Jalen Hurts excuse me being out.
They had some people get kicked out of the game.
Obviously defensive league touchy Gunner Johnson, But you got to
win the game. And when the whole deck was stacked
against and we found a way to get it done.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, I think what's even more telling too, Like so
throughout the year they've had to answer a lot of
questions and one of the big ones from the start
was who's number two, Like outside of Terry McLaurin, and
Noah Brown kind of emerged as that person at least
in targets, catches impact in the game. He became a
number two. They had described this as by committee. Noah
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Brown gets hurt, and for a couple of weeks the
big question was who's number two here? And the whole
bi committee thing has stood out to me and I
think yesterday more exemplified like this idea of this team
is so together that two players who hadn't scored a
touchdown the entire season rarely were targeted. Crowder had barely
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played for most of the season because he was on
ir both score two touchdowns. Crowder is the player who's
trusted on the last play of the game, because it's
the play that they over and over talked about repping
in practice. They trusted to put the ball to somebody
who had played three four games the entire season. A
lot of these the keys in the locker room telling
us after the game on the forty nine yard touchdown,
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that was the busted coverage where they got a free play,
whether they knew or didn't know that they had a
free play at the time. Like he didn't run the
route he was actually supposed to run. He just had
a connection with Jayden who saw this breakdown. And this
isn't Terry McLaurin the person you would think of they're
going to go to first, or zach Ertz the the
person who think they'd go to second. Here they are
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in critical clutch moments and it's the secondary players that
he's finding. I think it's an other very telling aspect
about where Jayden is in his development, where the offenses
and the buy in of the entire group out there.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, but I think you also got to give a
lot of credit. I think you are You're giving credit
to you know Jamison, Crowder and Oz and the reason
you got to give credit to those guys is they're
pros man. I think they have experience. Like you know,
I think I said this on one of the postgame
shows yesterday, Like when you that touchdown to Jamison crowded
at the end of the game, I'm not sure you
get that same result if a veteran player is not
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in that position. And I think people forget that because
they haven't played a lot, because they're kind of rotational guys.
They have a lot of experience, and that experience is
tremendously valuable. And I think when a quarterback understands and
sees it the same way as the receiver, it leads
to these special plays. And you know, like Iz didn't
run the route as called, but like it takes a
veteran to understand, hey, like they've busted their coverage. I'm
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dropped on to be open. Let's hope the quarterback can
find me. And again, that's a tremendous play by Jaden
to kind of elevate that and find that opportunity. It
also speaks to the unquantifiable element of those two players
specifically and the fact that they have this ability to
because of their experience, to elevate offensive production and be
where they're supposed to be in attack coverages in the
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right way. And I think that's just really special. So again,
like they deserve their flowers as much as anybody because
that's really challenging to do. It's challenging to coming off
the bench and do that stuff and stay locked in
and make those plays. But you see their experience and
the value of it in those moments.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, let me ask you just in general, from the
first time that they played them to the second time, obviously,
the effectiveness of the pass offense was wildly different from
the first meeting to the second one. A lot of
this came in the second half, but and a lot
of it also came after most.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Of the turnovers had occurred.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
So take me through what you saw about why they
were more effective being able to throw the ball against Philadelphia,
who's got the number one defense in the league.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah. So, I think when you look at the first
half specifically, you see a lot of kind of bubble screens,
a lot of screens and kind of RPO or pre
snap with pre snap run decisions, runner pass decisions, not
true RPOs based on leverages, and that was kind of
a big driver in the first half. Obviously, the turnover
is a big element because it gives you a short
field in the red zone. I thought Cliff kind of
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exemplified some elements that really showed an evolution from the
first matchup to now, Like just the kind of concepts
they were running, the way it's designed to attack the match,
coverage is the way it's designed to attack rules, and
kind of play with defensive back eyes. I thought that
was excellent. But in the second half, I think they
again the number one driver to me was something that
happened in the first half with those two long completions
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to Diami and Terry, Like that is the thing that
changes it because one of the things about that defense,
and you can see it in how they play their coverage,
is they're kind of relying on the rush to get
home and they're kind of play in between coverage responsibilities.
So once you can beat them vertically and get over
the top, they have to stop it up. So all
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of a sudden, all the stuff that makes you excellent.
I'm talking about Jayden Daniels now that makes this offense
excellent in terms of the quick underneath. Decision making now
becomes extremely prevalent, and I thought they ran a couple,
especially in the two minute drive, like a spot. They
ran a stick again quick game three step get the
ball out, and earlier in the early in the first matchup,
that was just not a viable solution because of how
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tight they were playing their coverage. Now a little softer,
a little bit looser, more opportunities there, for sure. And
again I think there were little tweaks, like they were
trying to run a lot of like corner with a
flat underneath and an outside release, go to again manipulate
those the match defense, and they would do a great
job matching. And then all of a sudden, zach Ertz
gets a catch where he literally just stops on the
same concept and catches the ball right over the middle
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of the field. And so I think in game they
made some nice adjustments. I thought Jayden was really aggressive.
I know people didn't like this throw, but I really
like the mindset that it shows. And what I mean
by that is there's a third and eleven right before
the fourth and eleven scramble where he kind of forces
the ball to terry on a dig and that's the
type of throw versus this defense you need to make
and that's the type of energy you need to make
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that throw. And so I thought there was just a
shift again, play a little softer coverages, some of the
quick game was more open, but Jadeen was much more aggressive.
And then the other element is, like you can't account
we talked about this already for his playmaking ability, like
that is something that is again like when we talked
about comparing this to New Orleans, like it's different, but
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the pure playmaking magnitude in this game was on full display.
And I think that again is as much as you
want to get technical about, Oh, they did this in
the first half, this and second half, Like Jaden was
just a baller and that's something that you can't quantify. Really.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, this is two weeks in a row that they've
come out with really unusual wins, close wins one where
in my opinion, they should have won by a lot
more in New Orleans that had they hit any of
the three open plays that they had with Terry mclurin
down the field, I'm not sure that game was ever close.
They got a number of penalties that kept New Orleans
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in it, and suddenly it looked a lot closer than
I think it was. And if you kind of rewatch
and go through it, you'll see all these opportunities, red
zone breakdowns, the misses on the big plays that were
open and there that really red like that score should
have never been that way. And then you get to
this week against a super Bowl contender, and you could
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not have had more mistakes to go against you, and
somehow they win anyway. And I can't kind of wait
to look back at this to see how this happened,
because for me, this one is hard to believe. Statistically,
overcoming minus four in the turnover margin against anybody is
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it's got to be in the single digit percentage of
games that are won by teams that do that, let
alone against a team that's twelve and two and legitimately
twelve and two and a ham lost in two and
a half months. So these two weeks are so telling
in very different ways about the makeup of this team
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to be able to overcome so many mistakes against a
really good team and win and does somehow get by
even though the score should have been very different in
a road game. This is a really this two week
period just tells me everything that I need to know
about the makeup and will and desire of the dan
Quinn team. And maybe that's the dan Quinn part of
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this whole thing.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, I mean absolutely, those these are great wins, you know,
great in different ways, honestly, But I think to your point,
the the kind of stick to itiveness and again, like
when you say, how does it happen? Like, obviously, the
philip Eagles go three for sixteen on third down. They're
not possessing the football the we need to possess the football.
They're not taking advantage of those extra possessions the way
they need to take advantage of those extra possessions. Obviously,
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dan Quinn steals two possessions with the fourth four in
the fourth and fourteen, or Jayden Daniel steals those possessions,
Jabrail capitalize score two touchdowns, and then you know they
have the drop pass at the end of the game,
which again kind of falls into that third down narrative
where they're not able to possess the football and win
the football game. And so obviously they turned the football
over a lot the Washington Commanders in this Philadelphia Eagles game.
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But the thing that I think sticks out to me
is that Philly wasn't able to do anything with it.
I mean in the second half they had like thirty
three yards of total offense. And obviously some of that's
inflated or some of that's misleading because the had a
lot of penalty yards as well. But I think that's
something that I look at and I say, like they
Philly left the door open in this game. And to
your point, obviously, it takes a special group of people,
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special group of competitors, special leadership to make sure that
you stay with it. I mean, it's twenty one to
seven in the first quarter, and like how many times
I was talking to Santani's like, man, I stopped watching
the game. And you've, I'm sure been a part of
games like that. I've covered games like that where it's
just not a thing. It's like the team has no
ability or resiliency to come back. And again, to the
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main point of the discussion here is like that was
not the case here. They stuck with it. They fought out,
they played physical on teams, they played great defense in
the second half, stopping the run. They did a lot
of really good things, were able to manufacture a turnover,
so it was really cool to see that level of belief.
And again, is that a Dan Quinn thing? Is that
a Jayden Daniels thing? I don't know, but it's definitely
(16:23):
something that they've built here over the last couple months
of the season.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I mean, like Dan Quick said this after the game,
I felt this way too. The first quarter took a
long time to get through, with all the stoppages of play,
with all the turnovers, the touchdowns, we had a lot
of breaks that were occurring, and it was twenty one
to seven. I remember looking up at the clock in
the second quarters like seven and a half minutes something
like that, and I said on the air to you
it loved it. I go, there's a lot of time
(16:48):
left here. And there's something about this team that made
me blurt that out. I don't think I would have
said that in years past. One because of the way
the quarterback plays, two, because of his penchant to come
back and not let anything get him down. He smiles
through all of it, cool, calm, collected. He's as clutch
as I've ever seen, especially for someone at his experience
(17:08):
level here in the NFL. I mean, you just don't
see this very often. And then this team, like they're
doing this. The ones that got me that I was concerned,
like it's just not going to happen. The unlucky deron
payn face mask that gave Philadelphia a first down on
a third and sixteen where they were just running the ball.
They were running to set up a punt. They were
not going, they weren't trying to get the first down.
(17:29):
That was a really bad break. The late interception was
a really bad break. And those were the ones where
I was like, Okay, now the clock's working against us here.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
But I remember even early I had this feeling like
this team's not out of it if they can just
stay with it.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah. But I think like you knows as again you
were there live and living in color, Like both of
those required a lot of stick to them miss to overcome.
And I think that's the thing is in years past,
that would be the straw that breaks the camel's back,
that would be the thing that pushes them over the
top and say, oh, we can't handle this anymore. Right,
And I think again, like when he threw the pick,
(18:06):
I was like, defense needs to stop. And how many
times in years past have we not seen that? And
I could feel like you guys on the call, you
and Fletch on the call being like almost in disbelief
when DeVante Smith drops that pass. And that's the thing.
And again, it's so funny because they kicked the field goal.
They're down by five, and I remember we were talking
and it's like, oh, they have one fifty left, one
time out, like that's plenty of time. That's plenty of
(18:27):
time for this team. And then they have this ridiculous
penalty on the on the kickoff right and give you
just give you some wife, And I think that's that's
an element of this team. And then you've talked about it,
we've fit it a couple of times. Now. Is it's different.
And I've played for teams where you believe in the quarterback,
and that belief in the quarterback gives you. It makes
(18:47):
you play better on defense, it makes you putter on offense,
it makes you block a little bit better because you've
got that guy, You've got your Payton man, you've got
your Tom Brady back there that's saying, hey, like we
can get this done. We're never out of a game,
you know. And I think that's again something that makes
him exceptional and it's is it? Dan Quinn is in
Jayde Daniels. But I think when Dan and his press
(19:09):
in his postgame presser was like, you know, we practiced
it a lot. I've practiced a lot other places, but
you need a guy to execute it. He's tipping his
hat to how special Jayden Daniels is the belief that
he gives the rest of the guys, I think, which
is which is pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, all right, let me ask you about a couple
of things that I'm wondering about. This is two weeks
running now, They've won penalties, turnovers are a big part
of the story. Also, a lack of a consistent run game.
This has been a top five rush offense. Take away
the scrambles and the amazing plays by Jayden. Let's go
to traditional run plays here, whether it's with Jayden scripted
(19:47):
or more with b Rob and others, Jeremy McNichols, Chris Rodriguez,
whoever it may be.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
It's not happening right now.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And I know that's a really good defense that they
played on Sunday. What are you seeing with the run
game and can they turn that back around as the
season progresses here?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I mean that's something we talked about on the pregame
show yesterday was just how good this Philadelphia defense is.
And it's not only is their defensive line good. Their
linebackers are good. They're fast the football, their safeties fit
physically downhill. They've got corners that can tackle like they're fast. Man.
You watch that, You watch that Pittsburgh game, and you
just see a group of guys that are possessed to
get to the football at the fastest, most urgent level
(20:24):
you can possibly be. So I knew run in the
football is gonna be tough because of the way specifically
those linebackers get downhill and fit runs and how disruptive
Jalen Carter is, Milton Williams and Jordan Davis. Those guys
are tough to deal with. And so this is going
to be challenging. And one of the things that sticks
out to me is they weren't able to commit to
the run as much as they wanted to. I don't
(20:44):
think because of game flow. And two also stylistically, I
don't think they were able to get to the volume
of runs that they normally do to make them successful. So,
for example, we saw a little bit of quarterback trap.
We saw a little bit of wham with baits, and
those runs were a little bit more successful. There was
a little bit more air. And if you can come
back to those and hit those multiple times in the game,
all of a sudden, the efficiency of the quarterback runs,
(21:05):
efficiency of the running back runs are much greater because
you found a little wrinkle that's giving you a schematic edge.
And again because of the game flow, because of the score,
because of the time that Philadelphia was able to possess
the football, specifically in the third quarter, I think there
needed to be more urgency and when you're in those situations,
you gotta throw the football right because you got to
score points. So I think in this game, again we
knew it was going to be tough. I think game
(21:26):
flow dictated that was gonna be challenging. So yeah, I
think those are all factors that limit the effectiveness of
this team run the football. But I am really excited
to watch them versus Atlanta, and I think they can
get back on track versus that defense, which is a
very talented, very diverse defense. But it feels like a
game for them to get back on track.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
And also this was by far had probably not close.
Brian Robinson one of his worst games, and I know
him like he's a carryover, so he's been here for
a few years. I know he's gonna internalize this. I
can't wait to see him next week because I have
a feeling you're going to see somebody who feels like
he owes the team one from a week ago. And
(22:05):
I can't wait to see what he puts on the
field against Atlanta Sunday night as well.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, I mean, obviously he's been a special a special
talent this year. Really the physicality, the vision, the competitiveness,
and like you alluded to that there, like Tanna mentioned
it in one of the shows you recorded today, like
just how dejected and how disappointed he was in his performance.
And guys like that are fun to play with because
they are eager to get back to practice. They're eager
(22:31):
to get back to work. And I definitely think b
rob fits that mold.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
All right, you noticed, Well, it's hard to not notice
the Philly outrage and excuse making that's been occurring. So
should we go full sports radio here? Do you want
to run through the litany of Philly?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I think we should full sports radio. I'm excited to
get you to do something fun here today. So the
segment is, and I love skitz and bits, Brahm. You
know that. I don't know. You don't love them as
much as I do, But I love them skits and bits.
We're going to go cry Eagles cry or eh, Okay,
you got a point there, and I'm curious to see
what you got to say about some of these. So
(23:11):
these comments are from real Eagles fans in our postgame
live chat. And you know Philadelphia fans, they're kind of trolls.
They get out there and they like to be all
over the place. And so these are some things that
I'd like to throw to you as a Philadelphia Eagles fan.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
So the refs robbed us false start on the last Washington.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
TD we were robbed. What do you say to that
Philly fan? What do you say? Oh?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
What do I say?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
What do you say? Bram?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
What do I say? What do I say?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Let's see, I think I've gone at least three to
four years asking every coach how they get away with
this on every single play that they run. So Lane
Johnson shortened my lotta. They invented this. Sorry guys, Oh,
I'm so sorry that you realize that you've been cheating
(24:10):
for five years now. And oh another team does it
and that's a false start, okay, pal, Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Lane Johnson's a saint. He did invent that though, real
talk like football, like you're a guy that he's the
guy that gets that started. Man, And uh, I say
what you want specifically in two minute drives, like that's
how tackle set. Watch any two minute drive in the NFL.
You're gonna get that, right and uh and I think I've.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Been screaming about this for years.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I think that's a false start too, but the referees
of the competition Committee don't think it is, and you
idiots invented it, so that's your problem.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Now, all right, Okay, So next thing, the only one
because Kenny Pickett was in and not Hurts. Kny Pickett's
terrible Hurts is amazing.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
He's a god one. I don't think Kenny Pickett was
that bad.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Number one two, and this is more important, what position
on defense does Jalen Hurts play because I don't remember
him playing any position on defense or your number one
rated defense getting five but really six turnovers and giving
up thirty six points anyway, So sorry, that one also
(25:27):
does it fly? And also on the backup quarterback thing, Guys,
you won the NFC Championship against the forty nine ers
team that had to run the wishbone because they ran
out of quarterbacks. And I don't know how many backup
quarterbacks we've thrown out there and.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
You haven't given our wins back.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Remember when Garrett Gilbert had to play because our whole
team at COVID. Oh, I bet where you were. Were
you taking credit for that win? Were you okay?
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Okay? Yeah? I mean it is Kenny Pickett as good
as Jalen Hurts. Probably not, But this is part of
the deal. Like you have a quarterback that runs a lot,
he's gonna get nicked, like he got nicked in our
first game a little bit. You remember that brand when
we covered that game he was out for trying to play.
Is like, it's part of the It's part of the
price you pay. And so as much as Phillip fans
(26:16):
want to be salty about this, like this is part
of the deal.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
You know, played really poorly, I would hear that as
an excuse. I don't think he did. Like, I don't
think he played really poorly. So I'm like we're the
ones that turn the ball over five times? What are
you all complaining about?
Speaker 4 (26:34):
It is true, It is true, all right, we beat ourselves.
Washington is frauds. They're terrible, a little harsh that one.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Ten and five. That's listen, the record is what you are.
So we're not frauds. That's number one. But beat themselves.
I'll hear some of that out. Actually, at least that's
a complain about yourself. And Nick Sirianni after the game
called themselves, and I actually thought that was.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
A really good word for it.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
They had problems with substitution patterns, They had too many
people on the field for one of the touchdowns, they
had not enough people on for another one. They how
many fifteen yard penalties they get? They were unhinged like
and everything reason I mean the media is they are
unhinged at all times. And it manifested itself again. You
guys got six turnovers and couldn't win the game. I mean,
(27:23):
come on, and you had to get unhinged to allow
us to even get back into it. So actually that
is you're about right. You did blow it. Finally you've
gotten to the truth of the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, you're a crazy Eels fan like, yeah, you did
beat yourselves. Good for you. That's that's why you play
the games, guys, all right, So that I feel I
don't know, I don't know if the Philly fans are
gonna hear this, but they should feel better maybe about
Bram's great insight. And I think now we're going to
uh what is this big Brams Heavyweight contender championship belt?
(28:01):
So I've never done this before. I've got the belt.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
You love the bits? Holy cow? Do you love them?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Man?
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Well this's a big belt. Man? Yeah, big foot is this?
Does he wear this belt? And so you got to
kind of walk me through the thing here? Am I
supposed to introduce these? Are you introducing them? Like? What's
going on? Bram a good voice?
Speaker 3 (28:25):
So basically you want me to go full Michael Buffer?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
So yeah, I do want I want to see it.
I want to be your best.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
He actually comes at you. I can't do that. He
will if you, uh does you do his famous line?
He will sue you unt do that.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
But I'm saying, you know, do you do like a caricature?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Let's get ready to football?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Uh, Let's see last week's winner was Jayden Daniels off
of his amazing performance in New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
So he is the.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Title Uh, he's the title holder, and we have to
we had to pick somebody to, you know, go up
a kid stum, even though it's quite obvious who should
probably win the thing again. So I went with Jamison
Crowder because hey, the guy's been on an IR all year.
He makes a game winning touchdown catch with six seconds
left in the game. That's amazing. He had two touchdown catches.
(29:12):
He's played a big role in keeping this offense moving
here over the last couple of weeks. He had a
couple of big plays in New Orleans as well. So listen,
he was punching up in weight class to have any
shot at this thing. And let's just end the nonsense
and give the belt back to Jaden Daniels, who today
is being called by any pundit anywhere except in Philadelphia
(29:33):
the greatest quarterback of all time. So Jaden Daniels remains
are Big Bram slash fletch Championship belt holder.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Congratulations, I thought.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
You'd go like in the red corner, Jayden Daniels are
returning champion. Five touchdowns, two interceptions, weighing it at whatever
the thing is. You didn't do that though, You kind
of just did your normal analyst thing.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
So I'm sorry to disappoint you.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Secondly, this isn't live and Jason could edit that part
in if he likes, because I like it better. So
your instincts are better than mine. With the bits logan
skits and.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Bits, Baby, I do think that this was a tough one. No,
we can kind of go against the champ in this one.
Jane Daniels absolutely balled out. I'm surprised that Frankie Lub
didn't get me love like, uh, you know, with the interception,
a couple of sacks, a couple of TFLs. Obviously it
was great, a little bit more productive. Terry had a
big game, And why didn't you settle on Jamison Crowder
(30:37):
as the challenger.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Well, you make you make a winning touchdown catch with
six seconds to go. It's hard to overlook that one.
So he just listened. All the other people he chose
were really good, really good options that weren't gonna win,
so we could give honorable mentions to.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
All of them if you like.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Okay, all right, Mike Tyson, Jane Daniels is Mike Tyson
back in the nineties. You were alive for that, right, broh.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yes, I was alive for that when Mike Tyson was
great and not doing stunts against Jake Paul. Yes, all
the younger generation thinkistum has been that was like a
joke and.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
It's really sad, actually really sad.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
It is sad. But this is Jane Daniels when Mike
Tyson was a beast. Because this is like just an
unprecedented performance by this guy. We gushed over him at
the beginning of the show and really like, we should
just give him this belt when the season's over. Maybe
you can get him on the show and you can
have Fletch give him the belt. That'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
We should do that. Yes, we should do that. I
agree with you.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
All right, real quick though, before we go, we basically
have a playoff game this weekend. For the Falcons, they
have a shot to win their division, but they're going
to be in big trouble if they lose. And for
Washington it's a winning in scenario. They can knock them out,
not entirely, but they can essentially knock them out dependent
(31:55):
on the Buccaneers result that weekend, and Washington punch a
ticket to get into the playoffs, so we have a
playoff game Sunday night. I don't know how much you've
seen to the Falcon Jet, but which just kind of
your early what's your early take on it?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, I mean, I think they're really talented on offense.
They got a lot of playmakers that are really scary.
Their offensive line is is I think more consistent, one
of the more consistent groups in the NFL, maybe top
ten in the NFL. And then defensively, they do a
lot of kind of I'm gonna say exotic stuff. They
do a lot of stuff, and I think that can
be challenging for a young quarterback to kind of manage
(32:29):
all those things. But I will say because they seem
to have a lot of play volume in and a
lot of rules in. There are a lot of coverage busts. However,
guys like Jesse Bates, they turned the football over a lot.
So I do think this is like it feels like
a very evenly matched game. If if Pennix comes out
in place, well, and that's something that there's just not
(32:51):
enough data points on him at the moment.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I believe anything now London Logan London London.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yes, yeah, it's about the league, the thirty off.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Honestly, after a hail Mary and yesterday, what's the point
of preparing for these games anymore? I mean, like the
reality is anything could happen, and it's it's like, we
talked for all these hours about all these things that
are going to be important and then this guy does
that stuff, and it's like, what's the point.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Why are we even bobbing?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I will say, to your credit, you do a ton
of research. Into my credit, Like, we said that one
of the important things was going to be finding explosive
plays against this defense, the Philly defense, and they did that.
So I know that's not great nuanced analysis, but that's
what happened and they won. So that's why you tune
into our show for that stuff.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
That was actually a compliment to both of us, even
though it didn't feel like it.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
But it was all right, right, you got to go listen.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
We had all sorts of Christmas miracles. RFK legislation went
through somehow. Last that comeback was crazy. Santa is loving us.
We have been real nice this year, loving us. Happy holidays,
Logan
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Happy holidays, Brand, Appreciate you buddy and Happy holidays to
everybody listens to this show,
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