October 28, 2024 • 58 mins
Bram Weinstein and London Fletcher breakdown the incredible Hail Mary to grab the win from the Chicago Bears. They discuss the magic of Jayden Daniels and if this might be the dawn of a new rivalry between Caleb Williams and Chicago. Finally, it's 'Tell The Truth Monday' and the guys debate how Dan Quinn and the Washington coaching staff can keep the team focused on the upcoming matchup with the New York Giants.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On this week's edition of The Booth Review, guess what
we're talking about?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
The Hail Mary.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
We also got Big Fletch's heavyweight championship for grabs.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Gee, I wonder who that's going to because it was
maybe the greatest number one versus number two overall pick matchup.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Ever And it's also Tailor Truth Monday. How can this
coaching staff keep this team grounded and ready to go?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Thanks to New York Giants.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
All coming up on The Booth Review. Welcome into a
very special Monday edition of The Booth Review Podcast nine
Braham Winstein with Big Fletch, London Fletcher.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Wow Wow. That it was a privilege and an honor
to get to call something like that. I believe Elias
said it's the first and only Hail Mary that they
can find that this team has had that they won
on since at least nineteen seventy. I was racking my brain.
I couldn't think of one. You know, I've watched every
game this team's play since I was a kid. I
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can't remember when. I'm like, maybe Thighs Bean had one,
maybe Sunny Ed one. I can't remember one. And I
don't believe we've ever had one. So we we witnessed
history yesterday.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yes we did. And you I'm still recovering.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I don't know about you, just recovering from what we
saw yesterday. Just like, unbelievable play, unbelievable moment, unbelievable atmosphere
in the stadium, but the fact that they couldn't find
one dating all the way back to nineteen seventy. I know,
for me, that was the singular most iconic play that
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I've witnessed during my time here in Washington as a
player now as a broadcaster, former player, all those things.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
To man, what a moment really was pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I like, I'm trying to remember you know that, you like,
that game really comes to mind, But that's not a moment,
you know, it was a game, a comeback. I was
in Dallas when Santana caught the two passes on Monday
Night Football that stole a game. Actually, this was actually
quite similar that the Bears were getting Washington was getting
dominated in that game, but had these two crazy moments
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with Santana and Mark Brunell. Chicago was getting dominated. Yesterday
we talk about that Chicago is getting dominated and nearly
stole it. The wrong team was about to win yesterday
really in the way that the game had been played.
Satana had another moment in overtime against Jacksonville where he
caught a pass right for touchdown. Sean Taylor's had some
really incredible moments. One against Philadelphia or he picks up
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a fumble full stride running the other way the game.
The memorable one against Dallas where they had like.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
A block Troy Vissive blocked to kick, blocked to kick.
Sean recovers it and you know, runs against a face
mask and then you know we're able.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
To kick the bills off there.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
This is the second one this year, though. I mean, honestly,
I would put up Jamee's throw to Terry in Cincinnati
Monday Night football. I know it wasn't a Hail Mary,
but it was very similar in terms of kind of
putting a game away late, a moment that like the
percentage that it would be completed is very low. He's
a low percentage throw. Just an amazing moment. And there's
something really, I mean, it just goes without saying, there's
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something very special going on here. It's a special team
that has special players, that has a bond. It's hard
to describe and now special things are happening to them.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, just the whole sequence of all right, the Bears,
they take the lead, get the ball back, you know,
with twenty five seconds left.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
They take the lead, and.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Then they kick the ball off to Eckler and we
get the I think the offense took over with like
twenty seconds left.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I believe twenty somethings like that.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, twenty seconds left, and you know incompletion and you
get the big play, the big thirteen yard completion that
play prior to the hell Mary. And that's when you
know a team has really practice these type of scenarios.
They've been in these moments, and now this is the
opportunity to go out and execute the thirteen yard or
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to Terry where you know it's six I think with
five seconds left, throw it to Terry. He gets out
of bout and gets extra thirteen yards. That allowed them
and allowed Jayden to be able to heave that football
almost sixty six yards to the end zone and being
you know, Noah Brown being exactly where he needed to be.
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The Bears executed. That was a teaching tape on how
not to defend a hail Mary.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
How the Bears.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
One of their players was in the middle mocking the crowd.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Why to play was happening?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Textbook teaching tape on how not to defend a hail mary. Conversely,
textbook teaching tape on how to execute a hail mary
play by our offense?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Man? Just what and what an unbelievable play?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
You know, they've talked a lot about preparation and getting
ready to do things like this, and it's always kind
of coach speak, and you know, I mean, like, how
do you practice stuff like this? But I will go
back to because I'm out here for practice every day,
right and we don't get to see everything anymore. But
during training camp we did. And towards the end of
training camp, they held a practice. I'll never in light
of what happened yesterday, they held a practice. It was
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like a Friday. It was like a run of the
mill Friday. And we were up on the hill and
they were on this new field and dan Quin had
a microphone in his hands and he was just yelling
out scenarios. He was going, there's twenty seconds left, we
have two timeouts. The balls at the thirty five go
and Jayden comes out and clip Kingsbury's calling plays and
then they run through that scenario and then he goes,
(05:24):
all right, there's forty eight seconds left, we have no timeouts.
The balls at the fifteen go right, yes, And they
did this for like an hour, And in light of
what happened yesterday, where you hear everybody say we prepared
for this, they did. They did. And to your point,
go look at where everybody was aligned on the field.
They gave themselves a chance. It wasn't like it was
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a miracle. It's a low percentage play. But zach Ertz
was exactly where he was supposed to be. Noah Brown
got here at the end of camp, was exactly where
he was supposed to be if it was going to happen.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
They were prepared for it to happen.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
And Terry was exactly where he was supposed to be.
Now that the Bears did block Terry out, you know,
sometimes a team knocked the ball forward, you get the ricochet.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So Terry was there.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Now the Bears did execute that part, and there were
two guys boxing out Terry, not one Bear boxing out
Noah Brown. But going back to your point about the
practice of those scenarios where they didn't you saw it
in training camp, But they continue those scenarios even during
the season, and d Q talked about that when we
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interviewed him in the post game, and also Jayden talked
about that, how they put us in these scenarios in
practice and not just your typical A lot of times
you'll work on the hell Mary play on a let's
call it a Saturday walk through. Hey, that play, But
for them to be working on these type of scenarios
during the practice week on a Tuesday, I mean on
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a Wednesday or Thursday and a Friday practice those now
you're doing it at full speed, full game reps. And
it's also the defense didn't get an opportunity to work
on those scenarios as well.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
So and then there's Jayden. Okay, so there's six seconds left.
He calls the play to McLaurin. First, cool calm, perfect
throw out of bounds four seconds, two seconds left. Gives
them a chance, not a good chance, but a chance, right,
and then they snapped the ball to him. He didn't
throw it for twelve seconds. Just an absurd, an absurd
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amount of time, right, Granted, and I'm sure Chicago's regretting
this part too. Rushing three allowed that to happen. Had
they rushed more, there's just no chance it would have extended.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
They rushed three, or they had a fourth guy as a.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Spot, as a spy on him.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
He's not gonna run seventy five yards till sixty sixty
five yards to.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
The end zone, like I didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I guess maybe are they going to try to do
a lateral play? And so somebody was up in the
middle field. Was he was, you know, two yards away
from the line of scrimmage. He didn't like a lot
of times you might have a guy come. So the
scenario we used to do when when I was here,
our defended our two minute. So I would line up
on one of the receivers and I would bump to
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one of the receivers, disrupt him to slow him down,
and then I would add to the rush.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I would become the fourth rusher. But I'm disrupting the
I'm disrupting the receiver first and foremost slow him down.
Then I add to the rush as a fourth rusher
outside con tank guy. Stuff like that, where a lot
of time they might I may be unblocked. This guy
didn't disrupt any receiver. He was, you know, lined up
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two three yards from the line of scrimmage at the snap,
and he's just kind of doing his dance and kind
of waiting and waiting and waiting.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Didn't do he really was.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
He could have been in the stands watching the game.
He was an innocent bystander in my part.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
And from my standpoint, it goes back to and nobody's
perfect here and we're taking this on Tell the Truth Monday,
and I think there's a lot and we can get
to it that I think Dan Quhennen, this team's going
to talk about, Oh, it was left out there because
that score should never have come down to that. They
really never should have come down They were dominating them.
That score could have been twenty four nothing.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You talked about that Baltimo Time.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, the Baltimore Times doing the broadcast on air and
off there, you just like you had this look of concern, like, man,
because times we shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
We were about to lose a game we shouldn't lost. Yes,
we're twenty We were a miracle play in twenty five
seconds away from losing a game they had no business losing.
The Bears had no business being in it. But we've
seen it before. You let a team stick around. It
takes one or two plays. They make one mistake on
one defensive play and DeAndre Swipt's gone, and now you
got a game. They you miss a field goal from
fifty plus yards and now you got a game. And
that guy's the number one pick for a reason, Like
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do you think he's not gonna make any plays at all?
He is? And they did and Wash it is fortunate
to get away with it, but the better team won
for sure. I want to go back to Jayden on
that play. So the Bears I think mistaken, probably regrettably
now only really rushed three allowed him to extend the play.
He's too athletic to do that right, So it takes
the twelve seconds he comes around to it. But the
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point I want to get to is this, like he
was calm through the entire thing, from the play before
to McLaurin to this play. What we're seeing is someone
and this is We've been saying this for weeks. He
has never looked like a rookie. He doesn't act like
a rookie. He looks like a veteran and he I
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don't know what will rattle him if none of this
is rattling him, and just go watch his demeanor and
how he went about this, it's no wonder. Good things
are happening to him.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
California cool. That's the way I describe him, California cool.
I would love to be able to have a like
a heart rate monitor on him doing these type of moments, because,
as you mentioned, his heart rate like as low as
I don't know what the low as it could be
and you still be alive, so to speak, But man,
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it was, it seems to be so low. Even before
you know he threw it, he's just like like he's
out on the practice field. You know, I've been here before. No,
he hadn't, because this was his first hill. Mary I
think says high school. Yes, well yeah, so he's just
but he's just so calm, cool and collected, California cool.
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The situation, the moment was not too big for him
when it happened.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Even us interviewing him after the game, he's just like, man.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
He was still in his uniform, still in his uniform,
just still just just so cool.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I don't know, you know this kind of happen.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
How did you just had the play of the year
You just had a moment that you know, very very
very few people will ever experience in this at this level.
And he's like, yeah, I know, and that's it.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, it's the end. He's special. He is he is special.
He is special.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Talent, you know, the talent is one thing, but just
special person for a kid. And I call him a kid,
you know, just being twenty three still young man.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
He's rare. He is rare. He is rare.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I'll get to the comparison in a minute, but I
want to stay on the play because it's just so
really amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
By the way, I think if you ever took up golf,
he'd probably win the Masters. He's got the he's got
the right right, he's so you think he's worried about it.
He has to get up and down on seventeen.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, to win a twenty foot no problem. Just to
when the when the when the Masters?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
You know, I think also just and we've seen this
for weeks now. Listen to this locker room. After every
one of these games, they were happy. They should have been, right,
they should have been. But it's measured, it remains measured.
This is amazing. We're really happy it happened. It's a
memory for a lifetime for all of us fans, us
as the broadcasters, players obviously, like all of us are
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enjoying this. And it's wild to hear our calls on
CNN and MSNBC and NBC, you know, like all, oh,
it's wild to hear that happened, because it really was
an amazing moment. But listen to them like they've remained.
It's almost it's insular. It's a bubble. It's about us.
We have to get better, don't get on as Danqun
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talks about the roller coaster, and you even heard that
yesterday that like we're just six and two. We want
a game that was a good game. There's a lot
left that we need to deal with. And so this
isn't over. We're at the beginning of something here.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
And it's special and.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
We talk about and I know they talk about the
brotherhood that they have. I've mentioned this on a couple
of occasions where you can see and feel it even
if you're watching them from Afar. You don't have to
be around here, you don't have to be in a building,
you don't have to be around them every day to
know that they have a special bond, special connection, and
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it's happened, and I mean this happened so quickly, with
over half the roster turned over. This is unsistent, unprecedented.
But again it starts with dan quinn. He's set this culture.
He set this connectivity to where those guys just feel
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so together they're going to fight to the end with
each other, win, lose a draw.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
When they get together, they win these games.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I mean these these we're we're experiencing the byproduct of
what dan quinn is has put together from a culture
and a team building standpoint.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, it's this is it's hard to compare it. But
like as a kid in the eighties here, you know
the Joe Gibbs teams, they weren't There wasn't really a
big expectation on them. Initially I was very young. It's
hard for me to really remember. I need some people
older than me to really remind me of it. But
there wasn't. And through those years they built this brotherhood,
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this culture. They allowed people to be themselves, the personalities
came out, they played for each other and also.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
You stayed together a lot longer. It was no free agency.
Early in and doing a beginning of those try those runs.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
But if you go and look at actually, like who's
in the Hall of Fame from those teams, it's fewer
people than you would think for what was basically a dynasty, right, Like,
there are no quarterbacks that are in the Hall of
Fame from any of those teams. Rigo one of the Hogs,
it should be too, but one of them is in
the Hall of Fame. You know, their great returners should
be in the Hall of Fame. But isn't Art Monk
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one receiversh No, Art Monk Yeah, yeah, Inde Green, Yeah,
Darryl Green is in the Hall of Fame. That's it
of a dynasty group. And then just think about this year.
I hate doing the comparisons because their teams won a
lot super Bowls, are in the playoffs every year. The
ninety one team was maybe the best team this team's
ever had. This is the best season I've ever been
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a part of covering it professionally, I've never experienced anything
like this because of what they're doing, how they're doing it,
how together they are, and obviously all these incredible moments
that they're giving us, and it feels very unexpected. I'm
always optimistic. I didn't expect this. This is beyond. It's
come together quicker, and it reminds me of that time
because there were no expectations on these guys either. And
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then I start to look around the roster and I go,
you know what, Dorrit's Armstrong has been around the block
for a long time. So is Dante Fowler, So is
Cleveland Farrell, so is Alamide's a Kias. So like all
these people that they brought in that everyone just kind
of described as well, they're just baselining the roster. These
are veterans and in some cases have been on really
really good, high level teams and somehow it's come together
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very quickly.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Here. Yeah, you bring in Ali Gretti.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
He's been on a winning He's been on the super
Bowl champion with three times, two or three Yes, championships
be Hodist their offense, they've bet five. Yeah, they've been
winning a lot. So you you bring in the right
type of people. Obviously Quinn knew, be honest, he knew
Dorms Armstrong, you knew Dante Fowler, having he knew Alami
DA's a kids. So having those that familiarity with those
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guys helps, But to do it in this.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Manner with I was on the ninety nine Rams, and
last week.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
We talked about that and you did a try to
we did a comparison to those two teams.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
We didn't turn the roster over to that to that magnitude.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
It was a we had a lot of key acquisitions
that season with the that offseason, with the trade of
Marshall Falk and drafting Tory Holt, but a lot of
the guys on that team had been there for two
or three years. So it wasn't like you didn't have
thirty new guys on that team, and it came together
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so quickly to you, like you said, this is unprecedented
what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
We talked so much about.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
The offense and that hell, Mary, we got to talk
about that defense, though, Brown and what they did in
that game. They held They held a Bearriss team that
had came into that game averaging almost twenty eight points
over their last four games to a googlese egg in
the first half.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
That's right. That defense was outstanding.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
They were outstanding. This was going to be an interesting
game plan. I actually, I don't know how you felt
about it, but I felt like we were walking into
a low scoring physical game. Let's see because Caleb Williams
in that offense, they got big name receivers, but they're
not connecting. They're not timed up. It's a missing link
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for their offense that I think eventually will probably come
and when it does, I think they're going to be
extremely dangerous. But it's not there yet. Dj Moore, Roma
Dunda Keenan Allen collectively we're averaging about one hundred to
one hundred and ten yards a game. Yeah, those three
players averaging collectively one hundred and ten yards a game.
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They had no downfield passing game, not yet. It's not
timed up right, So I expected, like, what was Joe
Witt going to do about this? Is he gonna put
his corners on an island knowing that the Bears haven't
been hitting these types of plays? Or is he concerned
that he doesn't like these matchups and will he back off?
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And he didn't.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, I'm looking.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I'm looking at Doonza Allen and Dj Moore. They can
buy for seven catches, let's call it about one hundred
and seventeen yards.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Maybe that's what they've been averaging coming into this. Yeah,
none of those receivers, but one of them. They were
talking out.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, they were this one. They didn't have one day.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Played down the field, the one Dj Moore play and
the second half was the one big play down the field.
They have no downfield passing game yet. And I reiterate
yet because it probably will happen for them, but it's
not happening now.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Dj Moore two catches for twenty seven yards. His long
was twenty seven, so he had he had want to
catch that went to zero yards on the fourth down,
fourth and one, and we all know what he did
to us last year two hundred and thirty yards on
eight receptions a season ago. The the secondary, how they've
stepped up over the last couple of weeks and just
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played out standing football. Mikey Salmonich still continues to just
make plays out of this world.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
And you know, I think the.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Pass rush was really good, but then you had they're
chasing around kind of a rabbit and Kayleb Williams and
he made some plays and we'll talk about him a
little bit later on, but you know, there was some
in that first half.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
The defense was outstanding.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yes, they held them to ninety total yards coming off
a week where they'd given up one to eighty total,
so much better offense than they were facing with much
higher level players. You know that weren't missing a bunch
of people that weren't playing with their backup quarterback ninety
total yards. Swift did come in averaging one thirty four
of last few games. They really started to profile him
and Cole Comett. Cole Comett made what one catch in
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the game. This is we're starting to see this now
that they're able to eliminate some of the best players
and forcing them to go in opposite directions. In the
Bears case, they should have a lot of answers to
those they don't currently have it. But Comet and Swift
are the two that had been profiled by the Bears
because they've slimmed it down. They're running the ball more,
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they don't have a downfield passing game. Comet was erased
by this defense, and Swift until that one mistake in
that big run, they had bottled him up too.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yeah, yeah, the I need to I feel like I
need to mention the linebackers too. When we talked about
the coverage on Comet, I thought Frankie Louver was really good.
Bobby Wagner was outstanding. He took away a lot of
They had some plays designed where Comet was the primary target,
but the coverage they took it away quickly and so
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that forced Caleb to hold on to the football, allowed
the pressure to get to him. It allowed him to
either get sacked or throw some incompletions.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Things like that. But there was one play where it
was early in the game.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
They had a Comet ran a five yard stick route
and Frankie louvill read it like he was in their playbook,
and Caleb he jumped it.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Caleb didn't throw it.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
If he would have threw that ball, it was going
to be a house called the other way, and Frankie
jumps up like man. He was so upset that that
Caleb Williams then throw the ball.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
There was the I thought the epitome of the first
half was the play where Chicago was in field goal
range and they got a fifteen yard sack on Caleb Williams,
backing him out, forcing them to punt. Louvu should have
had a sack. Williams was able to get out of it,
but they continued to finish the play. Darn pain makes
it deron pain now by virtue of that sack was
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over one, so he's had multiple sacks. So remember in
the preseason when everyone said where's the pass rush going
to come from? They have seven players with multiple sacks now,
which was second in the NFL. They have figured out
a way without a premier, high priced name the guy
you like, Crosby, Bosa, Miles, Garrett, whoever it may be.
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They don't have one of those, but they're getting it
done anyway.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, no, the way you do that.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Scheme and also working together, they've been able to scheme.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Up guys with with line games.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
And stunts like that, things like that. Lousvill's been able
to rush off the edge. Dante Fowlers man, this kid mad,
He's not a kid because he's been he's been in
the lead for a low time. He's been able to
get after the quarterback rush the edge, blitzing, blitzing Bobby
and and and Frankie creating havoc. But they also on
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the back end though the coverage has been a lot better,
so it's forced quarterbacks to hold onto the ball a
lot longer. Like I just mentioned, there were times where Caleb,
his primary read wasn't there because the coverage was so tight.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Sticky.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
He had to come off that hold onto the football
and that allowed the rush to get to him and
either they were able to get pressure on him, sack him,
or force him into an incompletion.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
The other person to really popped up to me yesterday,
I need to rewatch to really see it. Kwan Martin
was everywhere yesterday, and I think that part of this
was Washington knew Chicago is not hitting on a downfield
passing game. Go ahead and try it. The incompletions are ghastly.
They're not close. It's not like they're near missing. He's
overthrowing people by ten yards. They're not on the same page.
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I think some of it as he extends these plays
in a way that the timing is off. They're just
not kind of there yet. And that's why Kwan Martin
was near the line of scrimmage a lot. He was
making a lot of tackles. His physicality was felt yesterday time.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
And man Kwan has been from the from the first
game of the season against the Tabla Buccaneers. His tackling
has been outstanding all season long. And you talk about
making plays, and there was a deep ball where they
tried to connect on a Doomsay down the field and
think it was Binogaeny was on him man a man,
so he was had great coverage and underneath, but Kwan
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was the post safety and was was all over the
top of it. And it was a if it had
been a better throw, an accurate throw, Kwan would have intercepted.
But to your point, how they incompletions were ghastly in
completion there was probably three or four yards beyond where
a Doonzay was because a better throw Kwan intercepts that ball.
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But he he was he made some plays. Johnny Newton,
Johnny Newton was a guy who stepped up, was disruptive
in the game. Obviously recovering that fumble. He kind of
had a let's call it a coming out party in
a sense. You know he's a thrust into that lineup
as a as a starter now. But Johnny Newton, he
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did something I thought Phil mathis.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
There's times where.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And Joe Whitt talked about him, Joe with Junior talked
about him. A lot of his stuff doesn't go on
to the stat sheet. He's holding double teams. But even
yesterday there was a time where he he defeated his block,
got off of it and made tackles. He got greedy
is what we call it, when you will you take
on the block and get rid of and make a tackle.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
He got greedy. How about that play call?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Were they handed the ball off to a tackle in
a game where they had seven points? They doesn't and
they're they're running a play to try to clown us. Yeah,
are you really?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Shane Waldron, who was here at one point in time,
wasn't that That wasn't his best moment? No, that wasn't
his best moment With that.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Twelve seven game in the fourth quarter, you're handing the
ball off to a fullback who was a tackle eligible.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
And that fullback had no I mean, I mean all
to you? You do you know?
Speaker 3 (26:55):
So case the point we talked about Jaden's heart right
and how he's just you know, so his heart rate
is so low in any moment that full that offense alignment,
heart rate had to be racing so high.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
He was like, I'm about to get this ball on
the one yard line. Probably had never had a carry
in his life.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
He doesn't even get his arms, you know, the pocket
up high enough to even get the ball his his arm.
The ball preparels what two three yards forward? Yes, like
his heart rate had to be you know, two hundred
over two hundred whatever, whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I mean he's uh, yeah, he wasn't. He wasn't ready
for that moment. No, he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
They mishandled the exchange whatever they blew that. You know,
these two teams are very similar, so I think it
came in expecting the unexpected here, Like I thought they
were going to be in a physical, close game. I
thought it was gonna be a big time show me game.
The window they put it in, you know, obviously America's
going to see it, right. There was a lot to this,
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and the Bears had a cornerback on a hail Mary
waving at the crowd.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
They decided to hand the ball off to a tackle
who's in an eye formation in a game that's twelve
to seven. They had a number of personal foul penalties.
You know, you know, a lot of this is about
Washington being buttoned up brotherhood practicing together showcase game, and
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the other team it was supposed to be similar, has
not a very buttoned up operation to do a number
of the things that they did. Those little mistakes across
the board, of the reason why they lost in the end,
and we can come up with all the things that
Washington did wrong as to why the score was what
it was. But in Chicago, in two key moments on
their own goal line, on opposite ends of the field,
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they got one cornerback not paying attention, tipping the ball
to our guy, and on the other end of the
field they're handing the ball off to a tackle. They
got no one to blame but themselves. Honestly, Yeah, because.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Execution under pressure, those those things matter. Can you execute
under pressure.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Bears? No, no, not, They're not there yet.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
So we saw somebody you did so for Big Fletcher's
Heavyweight Championship Commander belt, Commander Championship.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Belt, and now it's time for the Big Fletch Heavyweight
Commander Championship.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I mean, I think this is an obvious. Last week,
Dante Fowler had a pick six, huge game. He's the
reigning champion. We're matching him up against the quarterback Jadon.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Daniels oh Man. All right, father Dante Foller.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
So Dante raned heavyweight champion.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Gotta beat the man. Date just had one tackle on
the game.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
That's the That's not to say he didn't have an
impact in that game, but he on on the stat
she only had one tackle.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Everybody knows where you're going with this.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
The preambles not so Sarry, but go ahead.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
The contender for the belt, Jaden Daniels. Give you Jaden's
numbers twenty one for thirty eight three and twenty six
yards passing fifty two yards Russian. They also had one
TV passing. So I think this is a blowout. This
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was a This was a twelve round domination by by Jayden.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I think it's more than Mike Tyson first round knockout first.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
You know, this is uh, this is yeah, we threw
it at time. Dante, You're gonna have to go back
to the to.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
The training session. The new and new heavyweight Champion of
the World.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Or big flects Heavyweight Champion of the World, Jaden California
coup Danios.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Congratulations Jaden, yet another belt.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Today.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Let's talk about Jaden and Caleb because we got we
didn't know all week, right, we didn't know the other
thing we haven't even talked about.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
He played hurt and had his first.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
He didn't It didn't affect his speed whatsoever, didn't affect
his agility whatsoever. And then at the end of the game,
I'm sure he wasn't feeling great, asked to throw the
ball sixty six yards in the air. Able to do
that too, But so we did get Jaden versus Caleb.
I do want to point out Caleb Williams, who went
to Gonzaga here bought like one hundred and fifty tickets
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and had their team come out to the game, which
I thought was really cool to have the Purple Eagles out.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I thought it was a really nice gesture.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
And I do want to say this too as a local,
like I'm rooting for him, Like I hope he has
a great career. He was amazing, grew up in Prince
George's County, played at Gonzaga, oddly won a championship on
a Hamil Mary like wan a w C A C
championship he did, and of course had an incredible college
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career on a Heisman Trophy. I'm rooting for him like this.
I think this is a different Chicago probably feels a
little differently because they're the ones that have to sit
there and go, did we make the right choice. It's
my opinion that they both did that. They're both going
to be very, very good.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I think I think it worked out the way it
was supposed to work out for both those quarterbacks. And
when we look at this, and we'll look at these
guys careers and hopefully they both stay healthy and whole,
you know, decade decade and a half from now, we're
looking at it like, man, these two have been battling
out to represent the NFC and Super Bowls multiple multiple times,
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and both both these teams and are extremely happy with
their with their choices. As it as it relates to yesterday,
these two quarterbacks just kind of know. They didn't play
against each other, but when you look at impact on
a game, who had the better game? I don't think
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there's any question that it was Jay No.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I don't want to be disrespectule because I do like
Cal Williams a lot, and I really hope he has
a great career. But Jaden Gaiels is miles ahead of him, miles.
But this also goes back to I've never seen any
rookie quarterback have a season like this. He's miles ahead
of almost every rookie quarterback I've ever seen, so it's
almost unfair.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
He's a unicorn, and you think in the fact that
he was able to do this without really practicing this week.
It's right, he went in a game. We didn't see
rust on his throws or anything like. Typically if somebody
misses a week of practice, and for the fans that
are watching, viewers are looking at this, you say, oh,
it's not that big a deal. It's a big deal,
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especially for the quarterback for you to to not be
able to really have full speed reps in a week
of practice in that game plan and you get in
there and you going that game and you are dealing
with a rib injury and you're throwing the football around
and you're making plays like he did, like like he
didn't miss a beat. And this is what against the
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know what number four ranked defense in it.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
They were top five scoring yard yes, ye, scoring in
the yard.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
So he did this against a top five defense international
football league with bad rib and very little practice.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
And he's a rookie. As it relates to Jaden, I
mean Caleb.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
I thought Caleb throwing the football was inaccurate, Yes, but
his biggest plays happened when he was able to run
the ball. You know, heard of some some scramblings things
like that, but you know, as far as throwing the football,
there's a lot to be desired.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
There was a lot to be desired. And yesterday's game, yeah,
for Jaden.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Where I thought the lack of practice showed up. There
was a miscommunication with him in McLaurin once where he
threw a ball to what you shoulder and mcclaurin was
running down the field. Well, they didn't practice together all week,
and we haven't seen a lot of that. I saw
a little bit more inaccuracy from him than I'm accustomed to,
and I attribute that probably to ribs, Like he didn't
practice all week, and I bet he's not feeling too
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great and that motion doesn't feel great. It was not
a lot of it, just a little bit of it.
He also had a couple of throats he had won,
and this is why the score, you know, should have
never looked this way. He made an unbelievable throw to
Luke McCaffrey early in the first half where McCaffrey had
one foot out of bounds in the corner of the
end zone. He's being chased by Montese Sweat chucks it
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up in the corner where only McCaffrey can get it.
It lands literally in the back corner. He has both
feet down. That's touchdown. That was an amazing, amazing throw.
That was an incompletion. And then he had the one
to Ertz where Ertz couldn't bring it in. There was
another touchdown, so he you know, but it was a
little more inaccuracy than I've seen with Caleb. I'll just
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go back to what I've said and what I saw
going in. When they get their downfield passing getting going,
and I will say when, because I believe it will happen,
that's when they're gonna get really dangerous. But their timing's off.
Part of it is he holds the ball a long time.
He tries to do mahomes. He liked things. He's capable
of them. He's got an incredible arm. But if you
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all aren't on the same page and he's just running
around back there like a cat, like, well, what are
the chances that you guys are gonna end up being
able to make those plays work. There's a smoothness to
what Daniels does when he's moving and extending a play.
There isn't when Caleb does it. It's amazing to watch,
and I think over time it's gonna have amazing results.
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You see this with Mahomes, Josh Allen to us a
lot of this early with Josh Allen, where he'd be
able to escape and then he's running around you can't
get him. He chucked it down the field, but the
receiver's like, I didn't know what you were gonna do, man,
And I think that's what I feel like here with him,
that it's just early and it's gonna get dangerous. But
with those receivers to have the number they have, it's
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an indictment somewhat of him that it's not there yet,
and they need to simplify this more to get everybody
engaged in.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
On the same page you mentioned simplify, we talked about
this a lot on doing the broadcast. It felt like
they tried, they asked him to do too much in
that game. Yes, everything was a kind of check with
me type of deal based off what the preaching app
look was from our defense, and the defense did a
great job of disguising holding look. There was a lot
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of what you call cover two shells. There was late rotation,
so he's trying to figure out whether it was a
run play or a pass play, trying to get in
the perfect play every single time, and it was just
too much, I believe on his plate. I know they
had a bye week, so sometimes doing that when you
have a bye, you try to add two things instead
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of peeling things back. And maybe you think, okay, yeah,
we offenses, you know, kind of playing a lot better.
They like I mentioned, and they have been averaging twenty
eight points per game their last four games, so like,
maybe we can add more on his plate.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
We got to buy week. He's ready to take on more.
But in.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Hindsight, they probably gave him too much responsibility just instead
of just going out there running their offense and kind
of doing those types of things. And yeah, you have
some checks, especially if you see pressures coming one way,
things like that, but it was every single play he
was making checks and you know, doing these different things
at the line of scrimmage where it was probably too much.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah, he looks like a rookie. Every rookie looks like this.
I'm bullish. He's gonna be good. It's just gonna take time.
We have someone who's ahead of the curve, and so
when it's compared to what's going on here, it looks off.
And so I think for them, it's probably tough because
they're sitting there going did we take the right guy?
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And I'll just go back to I think both of
these teams have the right guy. It's just gonna take
him and their offense a little bit longer. It's clicked
here for Jaden and Cliff not in every way, but
it's clicked here. As for whether this is a rivalry,
I'm hoping it becomes one. I think it would be
a good one for both of these cities. For both
of these towns, it harkens back to the eighties when
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they were both really great. These are great fan bases
that have been waiting for their guys to come along
and be this again. These are still like Chicago really
is a defensive mindset team. They have that in place.
They have a lot of those guys under contract. They're
gonna be good for a while. Over there, we have
a defensive coaching staff that is ready to kind of
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build that back up they've lost in all the glory
years of the Redskins were how good their defenses were
all of those years with Dexter Manley and Dave Butts
and Charles Man and Monte Coleman and Neil Lokowitz and
Darryl Green and all the great players that played here.
Everyone remembers, aren't Monk and the Hogs and where they go.
They don't remember how great the defenses were those years.
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I'm hoping this has come and back, and I do
hope this is the first of many between these two quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I saw Dexter at the game yesterday and I gave
him a fizz bump. Don't ever shake Dexter's hand. If
you meet him, give him a fizz bump. Think about
this brand. Two out of the last three times we've
played the Bears these last three seasons, they've all come
down to the last play.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Two out of the last three times.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Right, the one in Chicago ended with Darnell Mooney stopping
like a fingernail away from the goal line.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Oh yeah, Saint Jews made a nice play, nice pass.
Breakup this.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
I think it is this, this little heated rivalry.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I should be with the number one and number two
overall picks in their quarterbacks for quarterbacks starved franchises who
have glory eras and incredible histories. It should be that way,
and I'm hoping that that's what we get.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
I think I think when it all said, both teams
will be extremely pleased with their quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yeah, all right, so let's get to tell the truth
of mine day here. Tell the truth, all right, and
let's stay out. Let's start on the offensive side of
the ball, because there is some things. And it's interesting
that they're playing the Giants this week because everyone remembers
Week two seven times in the red zone, seven field
goals yesterday, similar issues, probably different reasons. You were talking
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a lot in the booth yesterday about the style of
defense that the Bears played in the red zone and
why that gave Washington troubles yesterday.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Yeah, so what the what the what the Bears run
is uh, what you call a lot of cover two
defense in the rei zone. We played it here doing
my doing the best years under Greg Williams and Greg Blosh,
and we were top top ten defense every year, one
year with top four we were fourth ranked defense. But
in the doing those years, we were always either the
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best or one of the best in the red zone.
It was because of that cover too. We called it
rid two and the windows are a lot tighter. You
you're in sync with your linebackers and and reading the
quarterback reading routes. You kind of got an idea because
you play the same defense all the time. You know
how teams are gonna try to attack you. They have
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a six foot five middle linebacker who takes up a
lot of range and tremaine ed miss He's outstanding, so
it's hard to like, you know, throw balls into him
against him. Things like that, and those safety those those
corners that are just so in sync, and then you
got a pass rush that can get pressure on the quarterback.
It makes it extremely difficult to operate against that type
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of scheme. If you're gonna kind of crack the code,
you're gonna probably have to do some unconventional things, maybe
little screens, draws, you know, play action passes on first down.
You can't run your typical Hey, run on first, think
you're gonna throw it on second, throw it on third.
It's you're gonna have problems dealing with that type of
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offense because I mean that type of defense, because there's
so they're so disciplined and they played so well.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
So the Giants were different, but they struggled against them.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Well the Giants did.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
The Giants run that same similar type of defense in
the red zone. They run the same defense, So that
defense is something we're gonna have. Cleveland ran on the
interception that a woozy a joke. J Okay got what
he intercepted the same similar defense. So we're going to
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have to be able to crack that cold of that
covered two red zone defense.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
We're gonna have to come up with this game you
played in that what was the problem that an offense
presented to you that gave you guys problems?
Speaker 3 (43:44):
One thing that if you get let's say, three receivers
to one side back off set back offset week side
and an h X receiver, a lot of times you're
reading those those two linebackers what we call outside lineback
and nickel, they're reading the quarterback. So say I'm looking
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strong side to the three receiver set and Brady Brady
cracked the code against the Coats with this.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
He would look strong.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Side with the notion knowing he's coming back week side
to that back on the checkdown, so he'd look get
the two linebackers to run towards you know, that three
receivers that side. Then he come quickly to the checkdown
and then they get into the end zone.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
So you're looking at maybe Eckler Eckler. Yeah, coming out
of the potential solution here in the red zone.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Solution, you also maybe you can you can line Ertz
or or even the receiver at the number three spot,
get him, you know, try to isolate him on your
MIC backer. Not everybody has a mic backer like a
Tremaine that miss he was outstanding and coverage just day,
So you maybe try to isolate get a matchup against
a lesser athlete, or you're a better athlete against their
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there Mike Becker, things like that.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
So there's ways to attack it.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
You can run that back, that back on a like
what we call it a sucker route, sit them down,
get the safety to jump, then you run a dig
behind them with the weak side.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Those are ways to attack it as well.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
Okay, it was There are a couple of plays, and
I know they'll they'll get to those plays, but it's
gonna they're gonna have to rep the heck out of
it to crack that code.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Yeah, well, I mean this is the difference here in
a couple of these games, they could have lost either
the Giants or the Bears games because of red zone execution. Yeah,
those scores would not have looked like that had they
executed in the red zone earlier in the games. So
we'll see, all right. The other thing I want to
talk about on offense for tell the truth Monday, for
sure is for the first time we saw Jaden wears
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emotions on his sleeve a couple of times, and it
was over substitution patterns, timing of it, how late some
things were coming in, So there's some work to be
done there between figuring out how to get everybody on
the same page, because they're playing up tempo and you
would think that that would lead to them having this
kind of rhythm, but it got slowed down a little bit,
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partially by the refs allowing substitutions, and the Bears were
playing some games with that yesterday, and also Washington wasn't
totally on the same age and you could see it.
So there's some stuff to work out there too.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Yeah, definitely, because what it ended up doing because of
the substitution, late substitution, however you want to call it, whatever,
the operation was not being there wasn't enough time for
Jaden once the referees got out of the way and
allowed them to run to play. There wasn't enough time
one time, it was like he was getting to line
of scrimmage with three seconds or whatever to start as cadence,
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and they had to burn two timeouts in the second half,
and that it was a third down play late in
the drive before Chicago got there go ahead, a touchdown
rum where Jaden we thought he'd crossed. He got the
yard the gain on the scramble, they marked him short
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half like a half inch short of whatever the case
may be, a couple of inches. This week, it looked
clear to me that that was a bad But if
we only had one time out left because we had
to burn two timeouts earlier because of late substitutions or
whatever the case may be. I know if Dan had
had at least two timeouts, he would have challenged that spot.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
I feel like he would have.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
But when him him only having one time out, he
couldn't challenge it because because it was enough evidence to
where maybe he did. Maybe he did, but it was
worth the challenge if you have two timeouts. Him knowing, hey,
I only got one time out, I may need this
time out later on which they.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
End up needing, he couldn't. He just couldn't call the
time out. He couldn't challenge it with only one time out.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
I've seen this the last couple of weeks. Now the
Bears really did it yesterday. A couple of times where
the second Washington makes that substitution, they need to be
allowed the outpportunity to do it.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
But they slow rolled it.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
They took a couple of guys and let them take
their time getting onto the field, and then the referee
standing in front of the center not allowing the snap
to go, and all of a sudden the playcocks rolling down.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
It.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
It's a tactic, but it's legal. And when you are
going to do these things, if you don't do them.
I think this is Jayden's point a little bit why
he was getting upset. If you don't do it quickly,
they could slow. They don't have to run somebody onto
the field. They have to be given adequate time to
get the substitution in. And when you send in big
Andrew Billings, who's taking as good old time coming onto
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the field, all of a sudden the play clocks running down.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
So I will give Chicago credit for using.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
Big Andrew bills Well.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Teams find little ways, Like a lot of times you'll
hear about teams that like, is that an injury or not?
When someone sits down.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
It happens in the college game a lot. No, but
in the college.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Game you see this a lot the college game. You
see them slow teams down there. They get accused of
it all the time. You see you guys sit down.
This was a tactic that was being used yesterday that
I could see other teams looking at, going we gotta
slow them down a little bit, and if they substitute late,
we're gonna take our good old time sending somebody out there,
and the ref's gonna stand in front of the honis
and not let them snap it.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
And that's where.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
During the off season, the Competition Committee and I'm sure
Dan and they're probably sending this stuff to the NFL saying, hey,
this is what's happening in the league. They might send
out a membo to these different teams and saying, hey, you're.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Gonna have to.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
Try to get on the field as quick as possible,
or you know, we're only gonna hold them for two seconds,
or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
I don't know, but I'm sure Dan Quinn is sending.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
Stuff to the league and these plays saying hey, this
is what's happening, because it's happened multiple times where.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Teams are taking their.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
Sweet old time getting their substitute is in, and it's
slowing us down where we can't.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Part of our our scheme is the no huddle.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
We lead the National Football League and no huddle plays
fifty eight percent of our plays, our snaps are no huddle.
The next closest going to that ball games was the
Chicago Bears. They were at twenty eight percent. So this
is a part of our identity and you're, you know,
taking one of our bullets away, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Yeah, so we'll have to see how they handle that.
I'll be interested to talk to them about that and
the substitution patterns and how they're kind of thinking about it. Obviously,
I think red zone issues is a big thing to
think about. It's hard to preview the Gidts because they're
playing tonight at the time that we're tapics. Their most
recent game movie tonight against Pittsburgh. But we can go
back to week two a little bit here. Number one,
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how do they deal with Molik Neighbors differently? He had
a humongous game against them in Week two?
Speaker 3 (50:55):
Yeah, you you you once you get an opportunity to
play against a guy, you kind of get a you
develop a game plan, you get that game plan out.
In that game, I think it was Michael Davis was
was guarding him, if I'm if I remember correctly, Yeah,
Michael Davis was was was guarding him a lot with
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Davis his he hasn't played a lot in the regular defense.
So you know, I feel like we're better on the
perimeter now to back end covering guys.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
We we communicate.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
A lot better. We're we're just better. We're playing with
more confidence. And part of the reason you're allowed to
play with more confidence is because you have a better
understanding of the scheme. So I feel like we'll be
better against neighbors because they have a uh, they're playing
with more confidence. Pass rushers is a lot better to
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the I'm trying to remember that game.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
I didn't call it. You you and Brown, You and
a logan called that game.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
They're they're they're down some of their pass rushers. I
think Kemon Thibodeau, he's yeah, he's on high are yep.
One problem that still remains is a sexy dexy Yeah, yeah,
it was dexter.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
H Lawrence yeah, Lawrence Burns still is formidable up front.
They've been had on the back end for sure, So
I want to see how this goes. But you know,
the first game, they could have scored forty on them, right, Yeah,
they could have. It was really it was red zone
issues was everything. And that also goes back to the
penalties that we talked to, just the alignment, the issues.
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They had a lot of pre snat penalties in that
Giants game. It backed them up and it hurt them
in that first game. And third and goal from the
three and third and goal from the eight are two
entirely different things, and that happened multiple times against the
Giants in the first game. So I know they won
the first one and they very similar to yesterday. Honestly,
if it wasn't for red zone mistakes, that game wouldn't
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have been close in week two, and same thing happened yesterday.
Washington should have been up twenty four to nothing after three.
That's what the score should have been yesterday, and they weren't.
And all of a sudden, you're in a game with somebody.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
And the Giants they're feeling like, hey, if our kicker
doesn't get hurt of that game. Graham Gounod, who formed
former player here, former teammate of mind, they're going to say, hey,
if he doesn't get injured in that ball game, they
feel like they won that game. So it was the
great thing about it. Even though we're on the high
of winning that game yesterday only on the hell Mary,
there's enough things that we didn't do well enough to
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be able to say, you know what, we gotta okay,
we celebrate that for twenty four hours. Now it's trying
to put it the rest, and we got to get
ready to play our best game against the New York Giants, who,
depending on the outcome of tonight's game, you know, you
never know where they're going to be at and from
a division race and all that. So they're going to
be fired up about playing that game regardless. So we
need to be ready to play it. And one thing
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I don't worry about is our coaching staff having these
guys ready to play, because again because of the Tale
of Truth Monday, where they're honest with these guys, hey, yeah,
we won this ball game. Boo, this, this, this, this, this,
and that we got to be better.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
This are seen examples of this.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
I liked what I heard after Cincinnati had their first
big marquee showcase win. Would they do put their head down?
Killed Arizona right after their big marquee first loss, Ravens.
I loved what I heard out of the locker room
turn around blow out, Carolina. I have no reason to
believe at all that this team is going to be
smelling themselves this week, even though maybe we are. We're
(54:28):
everywhere London.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
I don't know if you've know we're viral.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
You haven't seen the video yet. I haven't seen the
video yet.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
Have you seen it? I say that, Okay, am I
gonna be embarrassed? No, Okay, you're gonna love it. I
haven't seen the video with the sounds. I haven't seen
the video. Yeah, come out. I've seen the booth cab,
I've seen Yeah.
Speaker 4 (54:49):
I'll get it to you'll by the time this podcast
comes out, you'll have it. My favorite thing for the
video real quick is like the way you guys had
the camera set up. You could see a little bit
of crowd. Yeah yeah, and there's probably a little kid there,
maybe eight or nine, losing his mind. I'm like, that's
a core moment, that's core memory. Because I've been a
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fan of this team for a long time, and I
never had that as a kid, like a moment like this.
Maybe Santana, but that was in Dallas. But yeah, just
watching the reaction of the fans with you guys is incredible.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
It's just, you know, I'm so fortunate as a kid
to have the teams that we had here. And we
didn't have ones like that very often because it's so unusual,
but we had a lot of those on a weekly,
annual basis, and you've seen just just look at the
reaction around this community for the last month or two
to really yesterday, Like look what it does for the community,
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how it galvanizes everybody. This has been a sleeping giant
waiting to get back on board. And I think after
what's happened over the last couple of months, if you're
not believing in your eyes at this point, there's nothing
that can convince you anymore.
Speaker 3 (55:58):
Yeah, Now, this is a this is special your time,
this is a special time. We're gonna we're gonna enjoy
this moment for another say, we can enjoy it till Wednesday.
They got to push it, Uh, they got to start
back getting ready for the Giants.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
Tomorrow. So I can't wait to see these guys play
this Sunday.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
What do you want to call this thing? Is it
raise Hal? Raise, Hail Mary, Raise Hail Mary. I saw
the Washington Post with hail Victory, which I thought was
really that was really good. I like Hail Maryland.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
Do you like that one? Nah? Baby?
Speaker 1 (56:33):
What about hele Noah? Hell Noah is good? I like
hell Noah. We'll take your recommend you know, I like
missions if you got something better than any of those
hell Noah.
Speaker 3 (56:45):
Now I could see, especially because we've been doing a
lot of the raise Hal kind of you know, branding
with the team.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
So raise Hal, Raise Hail Mary.
Speaker 1 (56:56):
Raise Hall has a connotation of, you know, the hail
Mary has the connotations a little bit of the you know,
hail that going on?
Speaker 3 (57:07):
Hal Noah? Is it hale? It becomes that. That's that's
I think that's what it's gonna stick at.
Speaker 1 (57:11):
He was funny too after the game. He was just
kind of like, I don't know, ball bounced to my
hands this place right, Yeah, this is I don't know,
singularly one of the greatest moments in the franchise's history.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
And the quarterbacks like.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
I don't know, man, I just chucked it up and
the receivers like, yeah, it just bounced.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
He will never pay for another meal into d MV. Never, no, never.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
No, It's true. That was an amazing, amazing moment. And
we got a bunch of games to go and a
six and two record and a lead in the NFC
East as we hit kind of the halfway point, so
things are beyond looking up and apparently them up there
looking down on this teeth.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
Right, let's keep it going.
Speaker 1 (57:55):
Let's keep it going, all right. That'll do it for
the Booth Review. We'll see you next week after the
Giants
On this week's edition of The Booth Review, guess what
we're talking about?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
The Hail Mary.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
We also got Big Fletch's heavyweight championship for grabs.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Gee, I wonder who that's going to because it was
maybe the greatest number one versus number two overall pick matchup.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Ever And it's also Tailor Truth Monday. How can this
coaching staff keep this team grounded and ready to go?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Thanks to New York Giants.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
All coming up on The Booth Review. Welcome into a
very special Monday edition of The Booth Review Podcast nine
Braham Winstein with Big Fletch, London Fletcher.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Wow Wow. That it was a privilege and an honor
to get to call something like that. I believe Elias
said it's the first and only Hail Mary that they
can find that this team has had that they won
on since at least nineteen seventy. I was racking my brain.
I couldn't think of one. You know, I've watched every
game this team's play since I was a kid. I
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can't remember when. I'm like, maybe Thighs Bean had one,
maybe Sunny Ed one. I can't remember one. And I
don't believe we've ever had one. So we we witnessed
history yesterday.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yes we did. And you I'm still recovering.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I don't know about you, just recovering from what we
saw yesterday. Just like, unbelievable play, unbelievable moment, unbelievable atmosphere
in the stadium, but the fact that they couldn't find
one dating all the way back to nineteen seventy. I know,
for me, that was the singular most iconic play that
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I've witnessed during my time here in Washington as a
player now as a broadcaster, former player, all those things.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
To man, what a moment really was pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I like, I'm trying to remember you know that, you like,
that game really comes to mind, But that's not a moment,
you know, it was a game, a comeback. I was
in Dallas when Santana caught the two passes on Monday
Night Football that stole a game. Actually, this was actually
quite similar that the Bears were getting Washington was getting
dominated in that game, but had these two crazy moments
(02:07):
with Santana and Mark Brunell. Chicago was getting dominated. Yesterday
we talk about that Chicago is getting dominated and nearly
stole it. The wrong team was about to win yesterday
really in the way that the game had been played.
Satana had another moment in overtime against Jacksonville where he
caught a pass right for touchdown. Sean Taylor's had some
really incredible moments. One against Philadelphia or he picks up
(02:29):
a fumble full stride running the other way the game.
The memorable one against Dallas where they had like.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
A block Troy Vissive blocked to kick, blocked to kick.
Sean recovers it and you know, runs against a face
mask and then you know we're able.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
To kick the bills off there.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
This is the second one this year, though. I mean, honestly,
I would put up Jamee's throw to Terry in Cincinnati
Monday Night football. I know it wasn't a Hail Mary,
but it was very similar in terms of kind of
putting a game away late, a moment that like the
percentage that it would be completed is very low. He's
a low percentage throw. Just an amazing moment. And there's
something really, I mean, it just goes without saying, there's
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something very special going on here. It's a special team
that has special players, that has a bond. It's hard
to describe and now special things are happening to them.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, just the whole sequence of all right, the Bears,
they take the lead, get the ball back, you know,
with twenty five seconds left.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
They take the lead, and.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Then they kick the ball off to Eckler and we
get the I think the offense took over with like
twenty seconds left.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I believe twenty somethings like that.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, twenty seconds left, and you know incompletion and you
get the big play, the big thirteen yard completion that
play prior to the hell Mary. And that's when you
know a team has really practice these type of scenarios.
They've been in these moments, and now this is the
opportunity to go out and execute the thirteen yard or
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to Terry where you know it's six I think with
five seconds left, throw it to Terry. He gets out
of bout and gets extra thirteen yards. That allowed them
and allowed Jayden to be able to heave that football
almost sixty six yards to the end zone and being
you know, Noah Brown being exactly where he needed to be.
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The Bears executed. That was a teaching tape on how
not to defend a hail Mary.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
How the Bears.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
One of their players was in the middle mocking the crowd.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Why to play was happening?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Textbook teaching tape on how not to defend a hail mary. Conversely,
textbook teaching tape on how to execute a hail mary
play by our offense?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Man? Just what and what an unbelievable play?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
You know, they've talked a lot about preparation and getting
ready to do things like this, and it's always kind
of coach speak, and you know, I mean, like, how
do you practice stuff like this? But I will go
back to because I'm out here for practice every day,
right and we don't get to see everything anymore. But
during training camp we did. And towards the end of
training camp, they held a practice. I'll never in light
of what happened yesterday, they held a practice. It was
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like a Friday. It was like a run of the
mill Friday. And we were up on the hill and
they were on this new field and dan Quin had
a microphone in his hands and he was just yelling
out scenarios. He was going, there's twenty seconds left, we
have two timeouts. The balls at the thirty five go
and Jayden comes out and clip Kingsbury's calling plays and
then they run through that scenario and then he goes,
(05:24):
all right, there's forty eight seconds left, we have no timeouts.
The balls at the fifteen go right, yes, And they
did this for like an hour, And in light of
what happened yesterday, where you hear everybody say we prepared
for this, they did. They did. And to your point,
go look at where everybody was aligned on the field.
They gave themselves a chance. It wasn't like it was
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a miracle. It's a low percentage play. But zach Ertz
was exactly where he was supposed to be. Noah Brown
got here at the end of camp, was exactly where
he was supposed to be if it was going to happen.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
They were prepared for it to happen.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
And Terry was exactly where he was supposed to be.
Now that the Bears did block Terry out, you know,
sometimes a team knocked the ball forward, you get the ricochet.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So Terry was there.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Now the Bears did execute that part, and there were
two guys boxing out Terry, not one Bear boxing out
Noah Brown. But going back to your point about the
practice of those scenarios where they didn't you saw it
in training camp, But they continue those scenarios even during
the season, and d Q talked about that when we
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interviewed him in the post game, and also Jayden talked
about that, how they put us in these scenarios in
practice and not just your typical A lot of times
you'll work on the hell Mary play on a let's
call it a Saturday walk through. Hey, that play, But
for them to be working on these type of scenarios
during the practice week on a Tuesday, I mean on
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a Wednesday or Thursday and a Friday practice those now
you're doing it at full speed, full game reps. And
it's also the defense didn't get an opportunity to work
on those scenarios as well.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
So and then there's Jayden. Okay, so there's six seconds left.
He calls the play to McLaurin. First, cool calm, perfect
throw out of bounds four seconds, two seconds left. Gives
them a chance, not a good chance, but a chance, right,
and then they snapped the ball to him. He didn't
throw it for twelve seconds. Just an absurd, an absurd
(07:27):
amount of time, right, Granted, and I'm sure Chicago's regretting
this part too. Rushing three allowed that to happen. Had
they rushed more, there's just no chance it would have extended.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
They rushed three, or they had a fourth guy as a.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Spot, as a spy on him.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
He's not gonna run seventy five yards till sixty sixty
five yards to.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
The end zone, like I didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I guess maybe are they going to try to do
a lateral play? And so somebody was up in the
middle field. Was he was, you know, two yards away
from the line of scrimmage. He didn't like a lot
of times you might have a guy come. So the
scenario we used to do when when I was here,
our defended our two minute. So I would line up
on one of the receivers and I would bump to
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one of the receivers, disrupt him to slow him down,
and then I would add to the rush.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I would become the fourth rusher. But I'm disrupting the
I'm disrupting the receiver first and foremost slow him down.
Then I add to the rush as a fourth rusher
outside con tank guy. Stuff like that, where a lot
of time they might I may be unblocked. This guy
didn't disrupt any receiver. He was, you know, lined up
(08:39):
two three yards from the line of scrimmage at the snap,
and he's just kind of doing his dance and kind
of waiting and waiting and waiting.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Didn't do he really was.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
He could have been in the stands watching the game.
He was an innocent bystander in my part.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
And from my standpoint, it goes back to and nobody's
perfect here and we're taking this on Tell the Truth Monday,
and I think there's a lot and we can get
to it that I think Dan Quhennen, this team's going
to talk about, Oh, it was left out there because
that score should never have come down to that. They
really never should have come down They were dominating them.
That score could have been twenty four nothing.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You talked about that Baltimo Time.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, the Baltimore Times doing the broadcast on air and
off there, you just like you had this look of concern, like, man,
because times we shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
We were about to lose a game we shouldn't lost. Yes,
we're twenty We were a miracle play in twenty five
seconds away from losing a game they had no business losing.
The Bears had no business being in it. But we've
seen it before. You let a team stick around. It
takes one or two plays. They make one mistake on
one defensive play and DeAndre Swipt's gone, and now you
got a game. They you miss a field goal from
fifty plus yards and now you got a game. And
that guy's the number one pick for a reason, Like
(09:45):
do you think he's not gonna make any plays at all?
He is? And they did and Wash it is fortunate
to get away with it, but the better team won
for sure. I want to go back to Jayden on
that play. So the Bears I think mistaken, probably regrettably
now only really rushed three allowed him to extend the play.
He's too athletic to do that right, So it takes
the twelve seconds he comes around to it. But the
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point I want to get to is this, like he
was calm through the entire thing, from the play before
to McLaurin to this play. What we're seeing is someone
and this is We've been saying this for weeks. He
has never looked like a rookie. He doesn't act like
a rookie. He looks like a veteran and he I
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don't know what will rattle him if none of this
is rattling him, and just go watch his demeanor and
how he went about this, it's no wonder. Good things
are happening to him.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
California cool. That's the way I describe him, California cool.
I would love to be able to have a like
a heart rate monitor on him doing these type of moments, because,
as you mentioned, his heart rate like as low as
I don't know what the low as it could be
and you still be alive, so to speak, But man,
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it was, it seems to be so low. Even before
you know he threw it, he's just like like he's
out on the practice field. You know, I've been here before. No,
he hadn't, because this was his first hill. Mary I
think says high school. Yes, well yeah, so he's just
but he's just so calm, cool and collected, California cool.
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The situation, the moment was not too big for him
when it happened.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Even us interviewing him after the game, he's just like, man.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
He was still in his uniform, still in his uniform,
just still just just so cool.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I don't know, you know this kind of happen.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
How did you just had the play of the year
You just had a moment that you know, very very
very few people will ever experience in this at this level.
And he's like, yeah, I know, and that's it.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, it's the end. He's special. He is he is special.
He is special.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Talent, you know, the talent is one thing, but just
special person for a kid. And I call him a kid,
you know, just being twenty three still young man.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
He's rare. He is rare. He is rare.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I'll get to the comparison in a minute, but I
want to stay on the play because it's just so
really amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
By the way, I think if you ever took up golf,
he'd probably win the Masters. He's got the he's got
the right right, he's so you think he's worried about it.
He has to get up and down on seventeen.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, to win a twenty foot no problem. Just to
when the when the when the Masters?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
You know, I think also just and we've seen this
for weeks now. Listen to this locker room. After every
one of these games, they were happy. They should have been, right,
they should have been. But it's measured, it remains measured.
This is amazing. We're really happy it happened. It's a
memory for a lifetime for all of us fans, us
as the broadcasters, players obviously, like all of us are
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enjoying this. And it's wild to hear our calls on
CNN and MSNBC and NBC, you know, like all, oh,
it's wild to hear that happened, because it really was
an amazing moment. But listen to them like they've remained.
It's almost it's insular. It's a bubble. It's about us.
We have to get better, don't get on as Danqun
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talks about the roller coaster, and you even heard that
yesterday that like we're just six and two. We want
a game that was a good game. There's a lot
left that we need to deal with. And so this
isn't over. We're at the beginning of something here.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
And it's special and.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
We talk about and I know they talk about the
brotherhood that they have. I've mentioned this on a couple
of occasions where you can see and feel it even
if you're watching them from Afar. You don't have to
be around here, you don't have to be in a building,
you don't have to be around them every day to
know that they have a special bond, special connection, and
(13:57):
it's happened, and I mean this happened so quickly, with
over half the roster turned over. This is unsistent, unprecedented.
But again it starts with dan quinn. He's set this culture.
He set this connectivity to where those guys just feel
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so together they're going to fight to the end with
each other, win, lose a draw.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
When they get together, they win these games.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I mean these these we're we're experiencing the byproduct of
what dan quinn is has put together from a culture
and a team building standpoint.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, it's this is it's hard to compare it. But
like as a kid in the eighties here, you know
the Joe Gibbs teams, they weren't There wasn't really a
big expectation on them. Initially I was very young. It's
hard for me to really remember. I need some people
older than me to really remind me of it. But
there wasn't. And through those years they built this brotherhood,
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this culture. They allowed people to be themselves, the personalities
came out, they played for each other and also.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
You stayed together a lot longer. It was no free agency.
Early in and doing a beginning of those try those runs.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
But if you go and look at actually, like who's
in the Hall of Fame from those teams, it's fewer
people than you would think for what was basically a dynasty, right, Like,
there are no quarterbacks that are in the Hall of
Fame from any of those teams. Rigo one of the Hogs,
it should be too, but one of them is in
the Hall of Fame. You know, their great returners should
be in the Hall of Fame. But isn't Art Monk
(15:34):
one receiversh No, Art Monk Yeah, yeah, Inde Green, Yeah,
Darryl Green is in the Hall of Fame. That's it
of a dynasty group. And then just think about this year.
I hate doing the comparisons because their teams won a
lot super Bowls, are in the playoffs every year. The
ninety one team was maybe the best team this team's
ever had. This is the best season I've ever been
(15:56):
a part of covering it professionally, I've never experienced anything
like this because of what they're doing, how they're doing it,
how together they are, and obviously all these incredible moments
that they're giving us, and it feels very unexpected. I'm
always optimistic. I didn't expect this. This is beyond. It's
come together quicker, and it reminds me of that time
because there were no expectations on these guys either. And
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then I start to look around the roster and I go,
you know what, Dorrit's Armstrong has been around the block
for a long time. So is Dante Fowler, So is
Cleveland Farrell, so is Alamide's a Kias. So like all
these people that they brought in that everyone just kind
of described as well, they're just baselining the roster. These
are veterans and in some cases have been on really
really good, high level teams and somehow it's come together
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very quickly.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Here. Yeah, you bring in Ali Gretti.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
He's been on a winning He's been on the super
Bowl champion with three times, two or three Yes, championships
be Hodist their offense, they've bet five. Yeah, they've been
winning a lot. So you you bring in the right
type of people. Obviously Quinn knew, be honest, he knew
Dorms Armstrong, you knew Dante Fowler, having he knew Alami
DA's a kids. So having those that familiarity with those
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guys helps, But to do it in this.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Manner with I was on the ninety nine Rams, and
last week.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
We talked about that and you did a try to
we did a comparison to those two teams.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
We didn't turn the roster over to that to that magnitude.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
It was a we had a lot of key acquisitions
that season with the that offseason, with the trade of
Marshall Falk and drafting Tory Holt, but a lot of
the guys on that team had been there for two
or three years. So it wasn't like you didn't have
thirty new guys on that team, and it came together
(17:45):
so quickly to you, like you said, this is unprecedented
what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
We talked so much about.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
The offense and that hell, Mary, we got to talk
about that defense, though, Brown and what they did in
that game. They held They held a Bearriss team that
had came into that game averaging almost twenty eight points
over their last four games to a googlese egg in
the first half.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
That's right. That defense was outstanding.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
They were outstanding. This was going to be an interesting
game plan. I actually, I don't know how you felt
about it, but I felt like we were walking into
a low scoring physical game. Let's see because Caleb Williams
in that offense, they got big name receivers, but they're
not connecting. They're not timed up. It's a missing link
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for their offense that I think eventually will probably come
and when it does, I think they're going to be
extremely dangerous. But it's not there yet. Dj Moore, Roma
Dunda Keenan Allen collectively we're averaging about one hundred to
one hundred and ten yards a game. Yeah, those three
players averaging collectively one hundred and ten yards a game.
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They had no downfield passing game, not yet. It's not
timed up right, So I expected, like, what was Joe
Witt going to do about this? Is he gonna put
his corners on an island knowing that the Bears haven't
been hitting these types of plays? Or is he concerned
that he doesn't like these matchups and will he back off?
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And he didn't.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, I'm looking.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I'm looking at Doonza Allen and Dj Moore. They can
buy for seven catches, let's call it about one hundred
and seventeen yards.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Maybe that's what they've been averaging coming into this. Yeah,
none of those receivers, but one of them. They were
talking out.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, they were this one. They didn't have one day.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Played down the field, the one Dj Moore play and
the second half was the one big play down the field.
They have no downfield passing game yet. And I reiterate
yet because it probably will happen for them, but it's
not happening now.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Dj Moore two catches for twenty seven yards. His long
was twenty seven, so he had he had want to
catch that went to zero yards on the fourth down,
fourth and one, and we all know what he did
to us last year two hundred and thirty yards on
eight receptions a season ago. The the secondary, how they've
stepped up over the last couple of weeks and just
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played out standing football. Mikey Salmonich still continues to just
make plays out of this world.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
And you know, I think the.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Pass rush was really good, but then you had they're
chasing around kind of a rabbit and Kayleb Williams and
he made some plays and we'll talk about him a
little bit later on, but you know, there was some
in that first half.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
The defense was outstanding.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yes, they held them to ninety total yards coming off
a week where they'd given up one to eighty total,
so much better offense than they were facing with much
higher level players. You know that weren't missing a bunch
of people that weren't playing with their backup quarterback ninety
total yards. Swift did come in averaging one thirty four
of last few games. They really started to profile him
and Cole Comett. Cole Comett made what one catch in
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the game. This is we're starting to see this now
that they're able to eliminate some of the best players
and forcing them to go in opposite directions. In the
Bears case, they should have a lot of answers to
those they don't currently have it. But Comet and Swift
are the two that had been profiled by the Bears
because they've slimmed it down. They're running the ball more,
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they don't have a downfield passing game. Comet was erased
by this defense, and Swift until that one mistake in
that big run, they had bottled him up too.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yeah, yeah, the I need to I feel like I
need to mention the linebackers too. When we talked about
the coverage on Comet, I thought Frankie Louver was really good.
Bobby Wagner was outstanding. He took away a lot of
They had some plays designed where Comet was the primary target,
but the coverage they took it away quickly and so
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that forced Caleb to hold on to the football, allowed
the pressure to get to him. It allowed him to
either get sacked or throw some incompletions.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Things like that. But there was one play where it
was early in the game.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
They had a Comet ran a five yard stick route
and Frankie louvill read it like he was in their playbook,
and Caleb he jumped it.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Caleb didn't throw it.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
If he would have threw that ball, it was going
to be a house called the other way, and Frankie
jumps up like man. He was so upset that that
Caleb Williams then throw the ball.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
There was the I thought the epitome of the first
half was the play where Chicago was in field goal
range and they got a fifteen yard sack on Caleb Williams,
backing him out, forcing them to punt. Louvu should have
had a sack. Williams was able to get out of it,
but they continued to finish the play. Darn pain makes
it deron pain now by virtue of that sack was
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over one, so he's had multiple sacks. So remember in
the preseason when everyone said where's the pass rush going
to come from? They have seven players with multiple sacks now,
which was second in the NFL. They have figured out
a way without a premier, high priced name the guy
you like, Crosby, Bosa, Miles, Garrett, whoever it may be.
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They don't have one of those, but they're getting it
done anyway.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, no, the way you do that.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Scheme and also working together, they've been able to scheme.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Up guys with with line games.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
And stunts like that, things like that. Lousvill's been able
to rush off the edge. Dante Fowlers man, this kid mad,
He's not a kid because he's been he's been in
the lead for a low time. He's been able to
get after the quarterback rush the edge, blitzing, blitzing Bobby
and and and Frankie creating havoc. But they also on
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the back end though the coverage has been a lot better,
so it's forced quarterbacks to hold onto the ball a
lot longer. Like I just mentioned, there were times where Caleb,
his primary read wasn't there because the coverage was so tight.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Sticky.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
He had to come off that hold onto the football
and that allowed the rush to get to him and
either they were able to get pressure on him, sack him,
or force him into an incompletion.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
The other person to really popped up to me yesterday,
I need to rewatch to really see it. Kwan Martin
was everywhere yesterday, and I think that part of this
was Washington knew Chicago is not hitting on a downfield
passing game. Go ahead and try it. The incompletions are ghastly.
They're not close. It's not like they're near missing. He's
overthrowing people by ten yards. They're not on the same page.
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I think some of it as he extends these plays
in a way that the timing is off. They're just
not kind of there yet. And that's why Kwan Martin
was near the line of scrimmage a lot. He was
making a lot of tackles. His physicality was felt yesterday time.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
And man Kwan has been from the from the first
game of the season against the Tabla Buccaneers. His tackling
has been outstanding all season long. And you talk about
making plays, and there was a deep ball where they
tried to connect on a Doomsay down the field and
think it was Binogaeny was on him man a man,
so he was had great coverage and underneath, but Kwan
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was the post safety and was was all over the
top of it. And it was a if it had
been a better throw, an accurate throw, Kwan would have intercepted.
But to your point, how they incompletions were ghastly in
completion there was probably three or four yards beyond where
a Doonzay was because a better throw Kwan intercepts that ball.
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But he he was he made some plays. Johnny Newton,
Johnny Newton was a guy who stepped up, was disruptive
in the game. Obviously recovering that fumble. He kind of
had a let's call it a coming out party in
a sense. You know he's a thrust into that lineup
as a as a starter now. But Johnny Newton, he
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did something I thought Phil mathis.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
There's times where.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And Joe Whitt talked about him, Joe with Junior talked
about him. A lot of his stuff doesn't go on
to the stat sheet. He's holding double teams. But even
yesterday there was a time where he he defeated his block,
got off of it and made tackles. He got greedy
is what we call it, when you will you take
on the block and get rid of and make a tackle.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
He got greedy. How about that play call?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Were they handed the ball off to a tackle in
a game where they had seven points? They doesn't and
they're they're running a play to try to clown us. Yeah,
are you really?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Shane Waldron, who was here at one point in time,
wasn't that That wasn't his best moment? No, that wasn't
his best moment With that.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Twelve seven game in the fourth quarter, you're handing the
ball off to a fullback who was a tackle eligible.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
And that fullback had no I mean, I mean all
to you? You do you know?
Speaker 3 (26:55):
So case the point we talked about Jaden's heart right
and how he's just you know, so his heart rate
is so low in any moment that full that offense alignment,
heart rate had to be racing so high.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
He was like, I'm about to get this ball on
the one yard line. Probably had never had a carry
in his life.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
He doesn't even get his arms, you know, the pocket
up high enough to even get the ball his his arm.
The ball preparels what two three yards forward? Yes, like
his heart rate had to be you know, two hundred
over two hundred whatever, whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I mean he's uh, yeah, he wasn't. He wasn't ready
for that moment. No, he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
They mishandled the exchange whatever they blew that. You know,
these two teams are very similar, so I think it
came in expecting the unexpected here, Like I thought they
were going to be in a physical, close game. I
thought it was gonna be a big time show me game.
The window they put it in, you know, obviously America's
going to see it, right. There was a lot to this,
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and the Bears had a cornerback on a hail Mary
waving at the crowd.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
They decided to hand the ball off to a tackle
who's in an eye formation in a game that's twelve
to seven. They had a number of personal foul penalties.
You know, you know, a lot of this is about
Washington being buttoned up brotherhood practicing together showcase game, and
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the other team it was supposed to be similar, has
not a very buttoned up operation to do a number
of the things that they did. Those little mistakes across
the board, of the reason why they lost in the end,
and we can come up with all the things that
Washington did wrong as to why the score was what
it was. But in Chicago, in two key moments on
their own goal line, on opposite ends of the field,
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they got one cornerback not paying attention, tipping the ball
to our guy, and on the other end of the
field they're handing the ball off to a tackle. They
got no one to blame but themselves. Honestly, Yeah, because.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Execution under pressure, those those things matter. Can you execute
under pressure.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Bears? No, no, not, They're not there yet.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
So we saw somebody you did so for Big Fletcher's
Heavyweight Championship Commander belt, Commander Championship.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Belt, and now it's time for the Big Fletch Heavyweight
Commander Championship.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I mean, I think this is an obvious. Last week,
Dante Fowler had a pick six, huge game. He's the
reigning champion. We're matching him up against the quarterback Jadon.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Daniels oh Man. All right, father Dante Foller.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
So Dante raned heavyweight champion.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Gotta beat the man. Date just had one tackle on
the game.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
That's the That's not to say he didn't have an
impact in that game, but he on on the stat
she only had one tackle.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Everybody knows where you're going with this.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
The preambles not so Sarry, but go ahead.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
The contender for the belt, Jaden Daniels. Give you Jaden's
numbers twenty one for thirty eight three and twenty six
yards passing fifty two yards Russian. They also had one
TV passing. So I think this is a blowout. This
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was a This was a twelve round domination by by Jayden.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I think it's more than Mike Tyson first round knockout first.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
You know, this is uh, this is yeah, we threw
it at time. Dante, You're gonna have to go back
to the to.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
The training session. The new and new heavyweight Champion of
the World.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Or big flects Heavyweight Champion of the World, Jaden California
coup Danios.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Congratulations Jaden, yet another belt.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Today.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Let's talk about Jaden and Caleb because we got we
didn't know all week, right, we didn't know the other
thing we haven't even talked about.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
He played hurt and had his first.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
He didn't It didn't affect his speed whatsoever, didn't affect
his agility whatsoever. And then at the end of the game,
I'm sure he wasn't feeling great, asked to throw the
ball sixty six yards in the air. Able to do
that too, But so we did get Jaden versus Caleb.
I do want to point out Caleb Williams, who went
to Gonzaga here bought like one hundred and fifty tickets
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and had their team come out to the game, which
I thought was really cool to have the Purple Eagles out.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I thought it was a really nice gesture.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
And I do want to say this too as a local,
like I'm rooting for him, Like I hope he has
a great career. He was amazing, grew up in Prince
George's County, played at Gonzaga, oddly won a championship on
a Hamil Mary like wan a w C A C
championship he did, and of course had an incredible college
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career on a Heisman Trophy. I'm rooting for him like this.
I think this is a different Chicago probably feels a
little differently because they're the ones that have to sit
there and go, did we make the right choice. It's
my opinion that they both did that. They're both going
to be very, very good.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I think I think it worked out the way it
was supposed to work out for both those quarterbacks. And
when we look at this, and we'll look at these
guys careers and hopefully they both stay healthy and whole,
you know, decade decade and a half from now, we're
looking at it like, man, these two have been battling
out to represent the NFC and Super Bowls multiple multiple times,
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and both both these teams and are extremely happy with
their with their choices. As it as it relates to yesterday,
these two quarterbacks just kind of know. They didn't play
against each other, but when you look at impact on
a game, who had the better game? I don't think
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there's any question that it was Jay No.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I don't want to be disrespectule because I do like
Cal Williams a lot, and I really hope he has
a great career. But Jaden Gaiels is miles ahead of him, miles.
But this also goes back to I've never seen any
rookie quarterback have a season like this. He's miles ahead
of almost every rookie quarterback I've ever seen, so it's
almost unfair.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
He's a unicorn, and you think in the fact that
he was able to do this without really practicing this week.
It's right, he went in a game. We didn't see
rust on his throws or anything like. Typically if somebody
misses a week of practice, and for the fans that
are watching, viewers are looking at this, you say, oh,
it's not that big a deal. It's a big deal,
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especially for the quarterback for you to to not be
able to really have full speed reps in a week
of practice in that game plan and you get in
there and you going that game and you are dealing
with a rib injury and you're throwing the football around
and you're making plays like he did, like like he
didn't miss a beat. And this is what against the
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know what number four ranked defense in it.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
They were top five scoring yard yes, ye, scoring in
the yard.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
So he did this against a top five defense international
football league with bad rib and very little practice.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
And he's a rookie. As it relates to Jaden, I
mean Caleb.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
I thought Caleb throwing the football was inaccurate, Yes, but
his biggest plays happened when he was able to run
the ball. You know, heard of some some scramblings things
like that, but you know, as far as throwing the football,
there's a lot to be desired.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
There was a lot to be desired. And yesterday's game, yeah,
for Jaden.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Where I thought the lack of practice showed up. There
was a miscommunication with him in McLaurin once where he
threw a ball to what you shoulder and mcclaurin was
running down the field. Well, they didn't practice together all week,
and we haven't seen a lot of that. I saw
a little bit more inaccuracy from him than I'm accustomed to,
and I attribute that probably to ribs, Like he didn't
practice all week, and I bet he's not feeling too
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great and that motion doesn't feel great. It was not
a lot of it, just a little bit of it.
He also had a couple of throats he had won,
and this is why the score, you know, should have
never looked this way. He made an unbelievable throw to
Luke McCaffrey early in the first half where McCaffrey had
one foot out of bounds in the corner of the
end zone. He's being chased by Montese Sweat chucks it
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up in the corner where only McCaffrey can get it.
It lands literally in the back corner. He has both
feet down. That's touchdown. That was an amazing, amazing throw.
That was an incompletion. And then he had the one
to Ertz where Ertz couldn't bring it in. There was
another touchdown, so he you know, but it was a
little more inaccuracy than I've seen with Caleb. I'll just
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go back to what I've said and what I saw
going in. When they get their downfield passing getting going,
and I will say when, because I believe it will happen,
that's when they're gonna get really dangerous. But their timing's off.
Part of it is he holds the ball a long time.
He tries to do mahomes. He liked things. He's capable
of them. He's got an incredible arm. But if you
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all aren't on the same page and he's just running
around back there like a cat, like, well, what are
the chances that you guys are gonna end up being
able to make those plays work. There's a smoothness to
what Daniels does when he's moving and extending a play.
There isn't when Caleb does it. It's amazing to watch,
and I think over time it's gonna have amazing results.
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You see this with Mahomes, Josh Allen to us a
lot of this early with Josh Allen, where he'd be
able to escape and then he's running around you can't
get him. He chucked it down the field, but the
receiver's like, I didn't know what you were gonna do, man,
And I think that's what I feel like here with him,
that it's just early and it's gonna get dangerous. But
with those receivers to have the number they have, it's
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an indictment somewhat of him that it's not there yet,
and they need to simplify this more to get everybody
engaged in.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
On the same page you mentioned simplify, we talked about
this a lot on doing the broadcast. It felt like
they tried, they asked him to do too much in
that game. Yes, everything was a kind of check with
me type of deal based off what the preaching app
look was from our defense, and the defense did a
great job of disguising holding look. There was a lot
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of what you call cover two shells. There was late rotation,
so he's trying to figure out whether it was a
run play or a pass play, trying to get in
the perfect play every single time, and it was just
too much, I believe on his plate. I know they
had a bye week, so sometimes doing that when you
have a bye, you try to add two things instead
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of peeling things back. And maybe you think, okay, yeah,
we offenses, you know, kind of playing a lot better.
They like I mentioned, and they have been averaging twenty
eight points per game their last four games, so like,
maybe we can add more on his plate.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
We got to buy week. He's ready to take on more.
But in.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Hindsight, they probably gave him too much responsibility just instead
of just going out there running their offense and kind
of doing those types of things. And yeah, you have
some checks, especially if you see pressures coming one way,
things like that, but it was every single play he
was making checks and you know, doing these different things
at the line of scrimmage where it was probably too much.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah, he looks like a rookie. Every rookie looks like this.
I'm bullish. He's gonna be good. It's just gonna take time.
We have someone who's ahead of the curve, and so
when it's compared to what's going on here, it looks off.
And so I think for them, it's probably tough because
they're sitting there going did we take the right guy?
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And I'll just go back to I think both of
these teams have the right guy. It's just gonna take
him and their offense a little bit longer. It's clicked
here for Jaden and Cliff not in every way, but
it's clicked here. As for whether this is a rivalry,
I'm hoping it becomes one. I think it would be
a good one for both of these cities. For both
of these towns, it harkens back to the eighties when
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they were both really great. These are great fan bases
that have been waiting for their guys to come along
and be this again. These are still like Chicago really
is a defensive mindset team. They have that in place.
They have a lot of those guys under contract. They're
gonna be good for a while. Over there, we have
a defensive coaching staff that is ready to kind of
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build that back up they've lost in all the glory
years of the Redskins were how good their defenses were
all of those years with Dexter Manley and Dave Butts
and Charles Man and Monte Coleman and Neil Lokowitz and
Darryl Green and all the great players that played here.
Everyone remembers, aren't Monk and the Hogs and where they go.
They don't remember how great the defenses were those years.
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I'm hoping this has come and back, and I do
hope this is the first of many between these two quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I saw Dexter at the game yesterday and I gave
him a fizz bump. Don't ever shake Dexter's hand. If
you meet him, give him a fizz bump. Think about
this brand. Two out of the last three times we've
played the Bears these last three seasons, they've all come
down to the last play.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Two out of the last three times.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Right, the one in Chicago ended with Darnell Mooney stopping
like a fingernail away from the goal line.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Oh yeah, Saint Jews made a nice play, nice pass.
Breakup this.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
I think it is this, this little heated rivalry.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I should be with the number one and number two
overall picks in their quarterbacks for quarterbacks starved franchises who
have glory eras and incredible histories. It should be that way,
and I'm hoping that that's what we get.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
I think I think when it all said, both teams
will be extremely pleased with their quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yeah, all right, so let's get to tell the truth
of mine day here. Tell the truth, all right, and
let's stay out. Let's start on the offensive side of
the ball, because there is some things. And it's interesting
that they're playing the Giants this week because everyone remembers
Week two seven times in the red zone, seven field
goals yesterday, similar issues, probably different reasons. You were talking
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a lot in the booth yesterday about the style of
defense that the Bears played in the red zone and
why that gave Washington troubles yesterday.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Yeah, so what the what the what the Bears run
is uh, what you call a lot of cover two
defense in the rei zone. We played it here doing
my doing the best years under Greg Williams and Greg Blosh,
and we were top top ten defense every year, one
year with top four we were fourth ranked defense. But
in the doing those years, we were always either the
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best or one of the best in the red zone.
It was because of that cover too. We called it
rid two and the windows are a lot tighter. You
you're in sync with your linebackers and and reading the
quarterback reading routes. You kind of got an idea because
you play the same defense all the time. You know
how teams are gonna try to attack you. They have
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a six foot five middle linebacker who takes up a
lot of range and tremaine ed miss He's outstanding, so
it's hard to like, you know, throw balls into him
against him. Things like that, and those safety those those
corners that are just so in sync, and then you
got a pass rush that can get pressure on the quarterback.
It makes it extremely difficult to operate against that type
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of scheme. If you're gonna kind of crack the code,
you're gonna probably have to do some unconventional things, maybe
little screens, draws, you know, play action passes on first down.
You can't run your typical Hey, run on first, think
you're gonna throw it on second, throw it on third.
It's you're gonna have problems dealing with that type of
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offense because I mean that type of defense, because there's
so they're so disciplined and they played so well.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
So the Giants were different, but they struggled against them.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Well the Giants did.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
The Giants run that same similar type of defense in
the red zone. They run the same defense, So that
defense is something we're gonna have. Cleveland ran on the
interception that a woozy a joke. J Okay got what
he intercepted the same similar defense. So we're going to
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have to be able to crack that cold of that
covered two red zone defense.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
We're gonna have to come up with this game you
played in that what was the problem that an offense
presented to you that gave you guys problems?
Speaker 3 (43:44):
One thing that if you get let's say, three receivers
to one side back off set back offset week side
and an h X receiver, a lot of times you're
reading those those two linebackers what we call outside lineback
and nickel, they're reading the quarterback. So say I'm looking
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strong side to the three receiver set and Brady Brady
cracked the code against the Coats with this.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
He would look strong.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Side with the notion knowing he's coming back week side
to that back on the checkdown, so he'd look get
the two linebackers to run towards you know, that three
receivers that side. Then he come quickly to the checkdown
and then they get into the end zone.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
So you're looking at maybe Eckler Eckler. Yeah, coming out
of the potential solution here in the red zone.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Solution, you also maybe you can you can line Ertz
or or even the receiver at the number three spot,
get him, you know, try to isolate him on your
MIC backer. Not everybody has a mic backer like a
Tremaine that miss he was outstanding and coverage just day,
So you maybe try to isolate get a matchup against
a lesser athlete, or you're a better athlete against their
(45:00):
there Mike Becker, things like that.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
So there's ways to attack it.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
You can run that back, that back on a like
what we call it a sucker route, sit them down,
get the safety to jump, then you run a dig
behind them with the weak side.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Those are ways to attack it as well.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
Okay, it was There are a couple of plays, and
I know they'll they'll get to those plays, but it's
gonna they're gonna have to rep the heck out of
it to crack that code.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Yeah, well, I mean this is the difference here in
a couple of these games, they could have lost either
the Giants or the Bears games because of red zone execution. Yeah,
those scores would not have looked like that had they
executed in the red zone earlier in the games. So
we'll see, all right. The other thing I want to
talk about on offense for tell the truth Monday, for
sure is for the first time we saw Jaden wears
(45:47):
emotions on his sleeve a couple of times, and it
was over substitution patterns, timing of it, how late some
things were coming in, So there's some work to be
done there between figuring out how to get everybody on
the same page, because they're playing up tempo and you
would think that that would lead to them having this
kind of rhythm, but it got slowed down a little bit,
(46:07):
partially by the refs allowing substitutions, and the Bears were
playing some games with that yesterday, and also Washington wasn't
totally on the same age and you could see it.
So there's some stuff to work out there too.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Yeah, definitely, because what it ended up doing because of
the substitution, late substitution, however you want to call it, whatever,
the operation was not being there wasn't enough time for
Jaden once the referees got out of the way and
allowed them to run to play. There wasn't enough time
one time, it was like he was getting to line
of scrimmage with three seconds or whatever to start as cadence,
(46:40):
and they had to burn two timeouts in the second half,
and that it was a third down play late in
the drive before Chicago got there go ahead, a touchdown
rum where Jaden we thought he'd crossed. He got the
yard the gain on the scramble, they marked him short
(47:01):
half like a half inch short of whatever the case
may be, a couple of inches. This week, it looked
clear to me that that was a bad But if
we only had one time out left because we had
to burn two timeouts earlier because of late substitutions or
whatever the case may be. I know if Dan had
had at least two timeouts, he would have challenged that spot.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
I feel like he would have.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
But when him him only having one time out, he
couldn't challenge it because because it was enough evidence to
where maybe he did. Maybe he did, but it was
worth the challenge if you have two timeouts. Him knowing, hey,
I only got one time out, I may need this
time out later on which they.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
End up needing, he couldn't. He just couldn't call the
time out. He couldn't challenge it with only one time out.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
I've seen this the last couple of weeks. Now the
Bears really did it yesterday. A couple of times where
the second Washington makes that substitution, they need to be
allowed the outpportunity to do it.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
But they slow rolled it.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
They took a couple of guys and let them take
their time getting onto the field, and then the referee
standing in front of the center not allowing the snap
to go, and all of a sudden the playcocks rolling down.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
It.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
It's a tactic, but it's legal. And when you are
going to do these things, if you don't do them.
I think this is Jayden's point a little bit why
he was getting upset. If you don't do it quickly,
they could slow. They don't have to run somebody onto
the field. They have to be given adequate time to
get the substitution in. And when you send in big
Andrew Billings, who's taking as good old time coming onto
(48:37):
the field, all of a sudden the play clocks running down.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
So I will give Chicago credit for using.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
Big Andrew bills Well.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Teams find little ways, Like a lot of times you'll
hear about teams that like, is that an injury or not?
When someone sits down.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
It happens in the college game a lot. No, but
in the college.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Game you see this a lot the college game. You
see them slow teams down there. They get accused of
it all the time. You see you guys sit down.
This was a tactic that was being used yesterday that
I could see other teams looking at, going we gotta
slow them down a little bit, and if they substitute late,
we're gonna take our good old time sending somebody out there,
and the ref's gonna stand in front of the honis
and not let them snap it.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
And that's where.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
During the off season, the Competition Committee and I'm sure
Dan and they're probably sending this stuff to the NFL saying, hey,
this is what's happening in the league. They might send
out a membo to these different teams and saying, hey, you're.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Gonna have to.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
Try to get on the field as quick as possible,
or you know, we're only gonna hold them for two seconds,
or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
I don't know, but I'm sure Dan Quinn is sending.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
Stuff to the league and these plays saying hey, this
is what's happening, because it's happened multiple times where.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Teams are taking their.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
Sweet old time getting their substitute is in, and it's
slowing us down where we can't.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Part of our our scheme is the no huddle.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
We lead the National Football League and no huddle plays
fifty eight percent of our plays, our snaps are no huddle.
The next closest going to that ball games was the
Chicago Bears. They were at twenty eight percent. So this
is a part of our identity and you're, you know,
taking one of our bullets away, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Yeah, so we'll have to see how they handle that.
I'll be interested to talk to them about that and
the substitution patterns and how they're kind of thinking about it. Obviously,
I think red zone issues is a big thing to
think about. It's hard to preview the Gidts because they're
playing tonight at the time that we're tapics. Their most
recent game movie tonight against Pittsburgh. But we can go
back to week two a little bit here. Number one,
(50:50):
how do they deal with Molik Neighbors differently? He had
a humongous game against them in Week two?
Speaker 3 (50:55):
Yeah, you you you once you get an opportunity to
play against a guy, you kind of get a you
develop a game plan, you get that game plan out.
In that game, I think it was Michael Davis was
was guarding him, if I'm if I remember correctly, Yeah,
Michael Davis was was was guarding him a lot with
(51:17):
Davis his he hasn't played a lot in the regular defense.
So you know, I feel like we're better on the
perimeter now to back end covering guys.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
We we communicate.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
A lot better. We're we're just better. We're playing with
more confidence. And part of the reason you're allowed to
play with more confidence is because you have a better
understanding of the scheme. So I feel like we'll be
better against neighbors because they have a uh, they're playing
with more confidence. Pass rushers is a lot better to
(51:47):
the I'm trying to remember that game.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
I didn't call it. You you and Brown, You and
a logan called that game.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
They're they're they're down some of their pass rushers. I
think Kemon Thibodeau, he's yeah, he's on high are yep.
One problem that still remains is a sexy dexy Yeah, yeah,
it was dexter.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
H Lawrence yeah, Lawrence Burns still is formidable up front.
They've been had on the back end for sure, So
I want to see how this goes. But you know,
the first game, they could have scored forty on them, right, Yeah,
they could have. It was really it was red zone
issues was everything. And that also goes back to the
penalties that we talked to, just the alignment, the issues.
(52:33):
They had a lot of pre snat penalties in that
Giants game. It backed them up and it hurt them
in that first game. And third and goal from the
three and third and goal from the eight are two
entirely different things, and that happened multiple times against the
Giants in the first game. So I know they won
the first one and they very similar to yesterday. Honestly,
if it wasn't for red zone mistakes, that game wouldn't
(52:55):
have been close in week two, and same thing happened yesterday.
Washington should have been up twenty four to nothing after three.
That's what the score should have been yesterday, and they weren't.
And all of a sudden, you're in a game with somebody.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
And the Giants they're feeling like, hey, if our kicker
doesn't get hurt of that game. Graham Gounod, who formed
former player here, former teammate of mind, they're going to say, hey,
if he doesn't get injured in that ball game, they
feel like they won that game. So it was the
great thing about it. Even though we're on the high
of winning that game yesterday only on the hell Mary,
there's enough things that we didn't do well enough to
(53:28):
be able to say, you know what, we gotta okay,
we celebrate that for twenty four hours. Now it's trying
to put it the rest, and we got to get
ready to play our best game against the New York Giants, who,
depending on the outcome of tonight's game, you know, you
never know where they're going to be at and from
a division race and all that. So they're going to
be fired up about playing that game regardless. So we
need to be ready to play it. And one thing
(53:50):
I don't worry about is our coaching staff having these
guys ready to play, because again because of the Tale
of Truth Monday, where they're honest with these guys, hey, yeah,
we won this ball game. Boo, this, this, this, this, this,
and that we got to be better.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
This are seen examples of this.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
I liked what I heard after Cincinnati had their first
big marquee showcase win. Would they do put their head down?
Killed Arizona right after their big marquee first loss, Ravens.
I loved what I heard out of the locker room
turn around blow out, Carolina. I have no reason to
believe at all that this team is going to be
smelling themselves this week, even though maybe we are. We're
(54:28):
everywhere London.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
I don't know if you've know we're viral.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
You haven't seen the video yet. I haven't seen the
video yet.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
Have you seen it? I say that, Okay, am I
gonna be embarrassed? No, Okay, you're gonna love it. I
haven't seen the video with the sounds. I haven't seen
the video. Yeah, come out. I've seen the booth cab,
I've seen Yeah.
Speaker 4 (54:49):
I'll get it to you'll by the time this podcast
comes out, you'll have it. My favorite thing for the
video real quick is like the way you guys had
the camera set up. You could see a little bit
of crowd. Yeah yeah, and there's probably a little kid there,
maybe eight or nine, losing his mind. I'm like, that's
a core moment, that's core memory. Because I've been a
(55:11):
fan of this team for a long time, and I
never had that as a kid, like a moment like this.
Maybe Santana, but that was in Dallas. But yeah, just
watching the reaction of the fans with you guys is incredible.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
It's just, you know, I'm so fortunate as a kid
to have the teams that we had here. And we
didn't have ones like that very often because it's so unusual,
but we had a lot of those on a weekly,
annual basis, and you've seen just just look at the
reaction around this community for the last month or two
to really yesterday, Like look what it does for the community,
(55:45):
how it galvanizes everybody. This has been a sleeping giant
waiting to get back on board. And I think after
what's happened over the last couple of months, if you're
not believing in your eyes at this point, there's nothing
that can convince you anymore.
Speaker 3 (55:58):
Yeah, Now, this is a this is special your time,
this is a special time. We're gonna we're gonna enjoy
this moment for another say, we can enjoy it till Wednesday.
They got to push it, Uh, they got to start
back getting ready for the Giants.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
Tomorrow. So I can't wait to see these guys play
this Sunday.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
What do you want to call this thing? Is it
raise Hal? Raise, Hail Mary, Raise Hail Mary. I saw
the Washington Post with hail Victory, which I thought was
really that was really good. I like Hail Maryland.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
Do you like that one? Nah? Baby?
Speaker 1 (56:33):
What about hele Noah? Hell Noah is good? I like
hell Noah. We'll take your recommend you know, I like
missions if you got something better than any of those
hell Noah.
Speaker 3 (56:45):
Now I could see, especially because we've been doing a
lot of the raise Hal kind of you know, branding
with the team.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
So raise Hal, Raise Hail Mary.
Speaker 1 (56:56):
Raise Hall has a connotation of, you know, the hail
Mary has the connotations a little bit of the you know,
hail that going on?
Speaker 3 (57:07):
Hal Noah? Is it hale? It becomes that. That's that's
I think that's what it's gonna stick at.
Speaker 1 (57:11):
He was funny too after the game. He was just
kind of like, I don't know, ball bounced to my
hands this place right, Yeah, this is I don't know,
singularly one of the greatest moments in the franchise's history.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
And the quarterbacks like.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
I don't know, man, I just chucked it up and
the receivers like, yeah, it just bounced.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
He will never pay for another meal into d MV. Never, no, never.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
No, It's true. That was an amazing, amazing moment. And
we got a bunch of games to go and a
six and two record and a lead in the NFC
East as we hit kind of the halfway point, so
things are beyond looking up and apparently them up there
looking down on this teeth.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
Right, let's keep it going.
Speaker 1 (57:55):
Let's keep it going, all right. That'll do it for
the Booth Review. We'll see you next week after the
Giants
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