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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Who's Talk eleven ten ninety nine to three WBT. We
are live here at Liberty. Do we go by Liberty Mountain?
Or do we go by the King's Mountain? What are
we doing here? Liberty Mountain? Liberty Mountain? So I got
Liberty Mountain? Can you hear yourself? Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Oh there, ok Ay, good person.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I am joined by somebody who I love talking to,
and it's Jeremy Helmsley. And you are a very important
character in this production tonight and throughout the entire thing.
Talk a little bit about this.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
So I am actually currently addressed as Major Patrick Ferguson. Yes,
he is our sc our scary villain character in this story,
but historically he really is just a British officer with
a job to do. But his job was to basically
subdue the western part of the Carolinas.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
He was the only British officer at the battle, so
all of the troops under his command were loyalist Americans.
So he had recruited his entire army from the ground up.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
That is amazing. That is amazing. And this happens to
be the exact date that this.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
All happened, right, Yes, the exact date they had been
chasing him and his army, and then he chose for
some reason, a lot of conjecture between historians but why
he chose the top of King's Mountain. But he basically
had been camped there for about two days, was about
time to leave, and then on October seventh, the Patriot
forces surrounded him completely.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
That is incredible.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Now a little birdie told me. You you told me
that this is basically exactly the same conditions.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Very similar conditions to the day of the battle.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
They say it was raining in the morning, which also
made the ground and the leaves wet, which allowed the
Patriots to sneak up because you don't make as much noise,
oh yeah, walking in the woods, right, and so they
were able to sneak up without making very much noise.
And then it stopped raining in the afternoon. And they
think that's what prompted the battle. It began about three o'clock.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
What are we looking at in terms of the numbers
of the engaging.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
You've got about a thousand of the Loyalists on top
of the mountain with Patrick Ferguson.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
You've got nine hundred of the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
But they positioned themselves perfectly, so they truly have him surrounded.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
So they they and they sort of turn the numbers
against him a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
See that's amazing. And one of the things that's that's
that's incredible is we think about this as as a
battle that's raging over that period of time. And one
of our great people that we visited with earlier said,
this is actually really the first civil war.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Oh yeah, exactly. And that's that's what Liberty Mountain is
all about. We start with the people behind it, and
you've got you've got people who are are patriot pro America.
You've got people who are loyalists and they want to
stay loyal to England. They have land grants from England, right,
But the majority of people are apathetic and don't want
to fight in any conflict either.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
It so really in Liberty Mountain you.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
See all three of those perspectives and how they build
to a point that the people in this area it
stopped even being political and it became personal sure and
average every day people set down their tools, picked up
their rifles and went to address the threat that Ferguson
had put on their countryside.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
And it's brother on brother and family on family and.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Truly split families up right down the middle.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
They and and family issues that had been had like
kind of ruling in years previous. This was their opportunity
to actually fight it out. So yeah, it really brought
everything I mean for the area.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Is its personal it is.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I mean it absolutely is. And look the people who
were We're looking at all of these amazing actors and
reenactors and this sort of stuff. It is remarkable to
see how to the to the closest sort of thing
that they have. I mean, I'm looking at an absolutely
beautiful uniform that you're wearing, and it's it's fantastic. I
(03:46):
mean it's it's amazing, and you're I'm sorry that you're sweating.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, big lely better be great because I'm sweating no
matter what, even if it was terrible and sweats there now.
But I like the accuracy and the authenticity. I think
that's a big part of it getting into the mindsets
of our character. And so it is an actual reproduction
of British officers uniform made of wool, and then I
have the wool breaches, the wool waistcoat. So I will say,
(04:09):
you get used to it and it's not the kind
of wool like thick, heavy winter wool. Sure, sure, but
at the same time it's just protection. It kind of
regulates your temperature. I can see why they would want this,
especially when you.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Start firing the flintlocks. Oh yes, sparks are flying and
I'm happy I have this coat on.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
That's really that's incredible when you think about that, because
it couldn't just go boop in good.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
It won a lot of modern fabrics and modern materials.
They light right up, but you've got whole and you've
got linen. You've got things that a spark can land
on them and they're not going to immediately ignite.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
But by the way, it's incredible to see these weapons
up close and personal. It's incredible to see these cannons.
It's incredible to see all of the stuff that you
guys have brought out here to make it what it is.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yes, in the show, we do special effects. We have
live firing, theatrical weaponry. We bring the battle to life
on stage. But when we have these events, we like
to get the flintlocks out. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Oh we can go o ga original Oh, Jeremy, I mean, listen,
it's such a pleasure to get to spend time with
you in studio and then be in here and getting
ready for the show and all that.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I just think it's a it's a phenomenal thing for
people to come and see this and to experience it,
because it is an experience. It's more than just watching
something on TV.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Exactly. We want the information. We want it to be memorable.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
We want it to be unforgettable, and that's what we're
doing here. We've got our show tonight at seven thirty.
We also have this weekend Friday night, seven thirty, seven
thirty on Saturday, and our final matinee on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Okay, you guys got to come out. You have to come.
I'm telling you you will. You will. I'm going to
guarantee that people will come out and they'll come back
again the next day.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It's been happening.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
It's awesome because because you see this and you go,
how did I not know this whole story?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yes, and I want to see it from another angle
in the audience. Right, We've got people returning even this season.
Some people have actually seen it three or four times.
That is fantastic and bringing new people when they come back.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
And I also know that you got a bunch of
young people coming in, which is man, that's the future.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
We had a field trips so so school shows and
we brought out over twelve hundred students from the area,
from counties in South Carolina and North Carolina. And I
can tell you we do a Q and A afterwards
they can ask questions. Oh my gosh, these kids, they're
never gonna forget it. Some of their questions were just incredible.
And they know the history.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
That's what's amazing because you and all the time people
don't know this history. Well, go out and talk to
some of the young people who have been to the
battleground and that's on the scene Liberty Mountain. They know
the history. Now.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
That's incredible and that and that's the best evangelization you
can get. I mean, just definitely right. Thank you so
much for having us here. Thanks so much for the
performances that you guys are doing and all this great stuff.
Because this is the future and we should always look
back to the past to understand what the future.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
That's where we get the playbook.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
That's exactly right. Yep, Oh gosh, great stuff. Awesome to
have you here on the show. And I can't wait
for the show. I can't wait to see how it
all comes to pass. And it's just so great to
be with you man, and I really appreciate you being here.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Thank you, Brett.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Oh, it's our pleasure. Yeah, it is absolutely our pleasure.
All Right, that's gonna do it for me. We're gonna uh,
we're gonna shut it down. But you want to keep
listening because you've got breaking Brett Jensen and then of
course you've got t J. Ritchie coming up next. I'm
Brett Widerble. This is a great show, Come see it.
News Talk eleven, ten ninety three. BJ