Carla Sands On The Brett Winterble Show

Tune in here to this Wednesday's edition of the Brett Winterble Show! 

We're joined by Ambassador Carla Sands, former U.S. Ambassador to Denmark and prominent businesswoman, to talk about President Trump’s recent diplomatic efforts and the evolving global landscape.

Ambassador Sands highlighted the historic meetings between Trump and world leaders, including a significant Oval Office gathering with Ukrainian President Zelensky. She emphasized the Trump administration’s role in facilitating peace negotiations, applying economic pressure on nations like China and India, and holding Russia accountable. Sands also discussed the ongoing hybrid warfare threats posed by the Chinese Communist Party, underscoring the scale of IP theft and societal infiltration. With stark warnings about China's covert influence and praise for Trump’s diplomacy-first approach to avoiding global conflict, Ambassador Sands offered a sharp perspective on the challenges facing America today

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
News Talk eleven, ten ninety nine three WBT. It's the
Brett Winterbull Show. It is great to be with you,
and I'm happy to welcome to the program somebody whose
work is really really important. Carlas Sands is a businesswoman
and a former United States Ambassador to Denmark, and it
is a pleasure to have you on the program here today.
Thanks so much for making time for us.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hey, Brett, it's great to be with you. Thanks for
having me.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Your thoughts on what we're seeing. You're obviously part of
the American First America First Policy Institute, and I'm curious
about what you're seeing in terms of the big meeting
that took place not just in Alaska, but obviously in
the last couple of days. Are you buying into what

(00:54):
this looks like when it comes to getting peace in
that part of the world.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh my gosh, Brett, it's so exciting. I mean, it
would never have happened without President Trump taking his on
and determining he's going to be the president of peace.
He's already ended six conflicts. And what is historic day
both Friday and then unbelievably Monday, to have all those
European leaders and Zelensky in the Oval with the President

(01:22):
a historic day, stunning. I've never seen that many world
leaders in the Oval Office in my lifetime, and I
don't think it's ever happened before Brett.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
And it was so interesting to see the deferential nature
of that relationship that that photograph that I think will
go down in history with him sitting behind the resolute
desk and all of those leaders sort of in a
in a hemisphere in front of him. But how do
we how do we know that with all the goodwill

(01:53):
that's coming from the West, that it will be appreciated
by Putin? How do we have how do we hold
him to account? You've certainly seen him in action and
you understand what the stakes are, But can you give
us a little idea as to how it is that
we're going to be able to enforce this?

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, well, there's a couple of points. Number One, the
war would end tomorrow if China withdrew at the port
of Russia. There's money, there's manpower, all kinds of components
and military equipment going from China to Russia. There's also
over twenty thousand North Korean troops on the ground fighting
on behalf of Russia, and so this war would end

(02:34):
up China pull the plug. Now, why did Putin go
to Alaska to meet with President Trump when he had
been so you know President Trump had reached out. Well,
because President Trump is threatening huge tariffs on India, which
buys a lot of Russian energy at the market prices,
and also China buy that energy from Russia. And then

(02:56):
also the businessman in Russia. Within Russia, they want to
make Russia great again. They're on a wartime footing. They're
a pariah nation. Nobody decent will do business with them
right now. And if they can open up their markets,
their country's economy is going to get on a better
footing and people are going to make a lot of money.

(03:18):
So there's pressure from within from his businessmen, the investors.
There's pressure from without India, China, and there are other
nations in the world buying that Russian gas. That thread
at fifty to one hundred percent care wow, that thread
from Trump. So between those two things, I think that's
why Pruden sat down to meet with Trump, because you know,
he's inch by inch, he's winning the war.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
As you were spending time with the President over the
course of a number of years. He has certainly been
a force, I mean an absolute force, but he also
is very much he's very much can hinted by seeing

(04:02):
not a full blown war, but if you have to
take out nuclear facilities like you saw in Iran, He's
trying to do it in the smallest possible footprint so
that these are countries that don't end up in ruins.
That's an important thing too, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well it is so President Trump, being the peace president's
not afraid to use weapons of war to stop something,
to make a point, to change the trajectory of history. However,
in this case with Russia, Russia is Russia in the
US are the two biggest nuclear powers in the world.

(04:41):
And you know, people start to glibally say, well, you know,
Trump can just go in and level Moscow. Well, that's
mutually ashore destruction. President Trump often talks about how he
doesn't even want to say the word nuclear because he
doesn't want to end humanity as we know. It's because
that's what would happen. And so he is avoiding World

(05:02):
War three through his incredible like breasttaking diplomacy.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
What keeps you awake at night when you think about
the challenges that the country faces, is there is there
some particular thing that stands out to you that we
ought to be maybe keeping an eye on as well well.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
So you know, I sleep like a baby, thank God.
But what would or could keep me up at night
is the challenge of the Chinese Communist Party and the
absolute hybrid war that they're waging on the US for
many years. Every Chinese citizen is compelled to steal information
and take it back to China. Even Chinese tourists, Chinese students,

(05:43):
Chinese business people, they are compelled by Chinese law that
was passed in twenty nineteen to bring back everything that
they can. And they're all obliged to bring some goodies
back when they visit the United States or live here.
And so they are all feeling online, in person, working,
and they're compelled. So if they're relatives they're in China,

(06:05):
there's you know, there's pressure on people to toe the line.
They buy on each other, that we chat and all
the different Chinese apps are spying on the users, and
so they're feeling they feel more IP than any country
and all other countries combined. Every year, I think it's
about five hundred billion dollars that they feel they sold

(06:26):
the S three five plans.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
That's right, m R.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Theod just as an example, and so it's it's a
challenge that they're going to try to win the war
against us without firing a shot. They try to destabilize
our society. They fund organization the Palaestine, the pro Palestinian organization.
You'll find Chinese money and Chinese agitators. So they're working
to destroy our society from within.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
The idea of the fifth column is just it's a
very frightening reality and we've got to definitely pursue this.
Carla San's ambassador sans. I appreciate you spending time with
us here today on the program. Thank you so much
for being a part of the conversation. Oh my pleasure
much absolutely absolutely you as well. New S Talk eleven,
TED ninety nine three WBT. Let's head on over