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October 8, 2025 • 87 mins

Tune in here to this Wednesday's edition of the Brett Winterble Show! 

Brett kicks off the program by talking about the arrest of an Uber driver accused of starting the deadly Palisades fire and the broader implications of unchecked criminal behavior. He describes the suspect, Jonathan Wrenkernecht, in scathing terms, labeling him a “loser’s loser” and blaming him for the destruction of lives, homes, and even pets. Brett paints the fire as a symbol of societal decay, arguing that individuals like Wrenkernecht represent a broader cultural collapse driven by resentment and lawlessness. He questions why society tolerates such destructive behavior and passionately calls for harsher consequences for criminals, including permanent isolation from law-abiding citizens.

We’re joined by Coach Matt Doherty from DohertyCoaching.com to talk about leadership, public safety, and the breakdown of law and order in American cities. Coach Doherty, a former basketball coach turned executive coach, emphasizes that safety is the foundation of a functioning society—without it, food, shelter, and prosperity mean little. In a wide-ranging conversation, he discusses the failures of leadership in places like Chicago and New York, the consequences of open-border policies, and the growing disconnect between political agendas and everyday citizens' needs. He also reflects on how social media fuels division and argues that civil, face-to-face dialogue is essential for national healing. Coach warns about the dangers of populism and blind trust in charismatic leaders promising “free stuff,” referencing failed states like Venezuela. He urges Americans to study history, demand strong leadership, and raise families rooted in Christian values and personal accountability.

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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Blues Talk eleven three WBT. It's the Brett Winerble Show.
It is good to be with you. There are so
many storylines that are moving right now, and I want
to start with I'll get into the politics of the
day and all that sort of stuff. But this this
uber driver that was arrested for maliciously igniting a deadly

(00:49):
Palisades fire according to the FEDS. And I read the
complaint and this guy is such a dirt bag. This
guy is is just a loser, a loser's loser, and
and he destroyed so many people's lives. Like I can't
even I can't even understand why you would want to
go up into the brush and just light a fire

(01:12):
and think that you know, everything is going to be better,
It's going to be good, it's going to be whatever
this guy I am. I am going to I'm going
to take the position this guy looks just like your
average everyday ANTIFA member, That's what he looks like. He
probably hated the fact that there were people who had

(01:33):
worked hard all their lives to save money to do
all that kind of stuff, and he just probably didn't
want that to be the case. In fact, he went
up into the brush. He was an uber driver and
then he went up into the brush after he dropped
somebody off semi nearby, and he was listening to like this,
you know this, like emo music, you know this MOPI

(01:56):
never had a date in his life kind of loser music.
And that guy, No, I'm dead serious, man, everybody knows
what I'm talking about. This guy's a loser's loser. And
this guy just wanted to burn stuff down and he's
really proud of what he did. I think he's got

(02:17):
the mopey face. He's got the mopey face. I want
to hear from mom and dad. I want to hear
from his mommy and his daddy. I want them to
be forced to go out and do a press conference
and answer for this dirt bag's actions, because I'm telling you,
they have destroyed Los Angeles to a degree that I

(02:40):
do think is fundamentally unfair because what they're now going
to do, because this guy went and lit the fire
and everything burned, They're going to move in people who
are not going to have the same sort of quality
of life and things like that. And these people. All
these people did was they had a really nice place
to live. They were living the beach. It wasn't right

(03:01):
on the beach. It wasn't that at all. It was
more like, you know, a nice place where where you
had a good time and you could go and get
a cup of coffee and you could spend time with
your friends and all that sort of stuff. And this
dirt bag, this dirt bag decided he was gonna burn
it all down, burn it all down, because you know

(03:21):
what we need in America today, We need more more
lunatics wrecking the country. I look at this guy, and
I just say to myself, why didn't you just go,
I don't know, go sit someplace and chill axe. I mean, why,

(03:44):
This is why we can't have nice things. And I'm
dead serious about this is why we can't have nice things.
Uber driver arrested for maliciously igniting deadly Palisades fire. Feds
an ounce twenty nine year old Jonathan rinker necked they'd
like I bet a lot of these people would like

(04:04):
to rinker necked him recarneck Him was arrested at his
home in Melbourne, Florida, on Tuesday. Officials said during a
press conference on Wednesday. He will make an initial appearance
in Orlando earlier today I think he already did that.
Officials accuse Wreck his Neck, also known as Jonathan Rinder,

(04:31):
of starting the Lochman Fire just after midnight on New
Year's Day that maliciously damaged and destroyed by means of fire,
specifically the fire known as the Lochman and Palisades fire.
A criminal complaint obtained by Fox News said, so, this
is the guy who's responsible for all the dead puppies,

(04:52):
and all the dead cats, and all the dead pets
who were left behind in the houses, all of this
because this guy is a walking, talking piece of garbage loser.
People have a right to live where they want to

(05:13):
live if you can afford to live in that place.
God bless you. You either inherited money, you got lucky,
you hit the lotto, but you lived in a really
beautiful place, and you brought this scumbag into your neighborhood
to go and burn your neighborhood down. This guy is pathetic,

(05:37):
you know. You just you look at these people and
you say, wow, this guy's alive. Charlie Kirk is dead.
Charlie Kirk. You may not have agreed with his politics,
you may not have done any of that sort of stuff,
but I'll tell you what. He didn't go and burn
down a neighborhood. He didn't go and burn down half
a city. He didn't do any of that kind of stuff.

(05:59):
This guy, I'd given the chance, would love to be
cohabitating with the guy that killed Charlie Kirk. Like he'd
be like, Oh, yeah, you know what, we're super criminals.
We're super emo criminals. Ooh, it's so great. I'm just
sick and tired of seeing perfectly nice areas getting destroyed

(06:22):
by lunatics. I'm sick and tired of it. I mean,
are you sick and tired of it? Look, we can
take a direct through line from what happened in Los
Angeles to what happened with Charlie Kirk right here to
Arena's murder. Why do we have to put up I
just want an answer. Why do we have to put

(06:45):
up with criminals? Why can we not lock them up?
Why can we not put them out on a far
away island, let them do whatever they need to do,
but they're never getting off the out. Why must we
deal with and accept criminality? I don't care if it's
the weirdo bus driver that was molesting kids the other

(07:06):
day remember that that story came out, but that went
away real quick with seems you look at these storylines.
Aren't you sick and tired? I'm dead serious about this.
I'm dead serious about this. I never had I would
never have any money to build a house like what
they had in the Palisades, And that's fine. I don't care.
I'm not like a jealous person like that. People have money, great,

(07:28):
God bless you. People don't have money, well, you know,
there's a lot of people that don't have money. But
the question is this, aren't you sick and tired now
of watching this day after day, day after day, shooting
at the Ice Agents, shooting at Charlie Kirk? You know,
arsonists running around and celebrating, and people doing crazy things.

(07:49):
Have you had enough crazy yet? Who do we need
to call to clean up the crazy? Who do we
need to call to remove the crazy from polite society.
I'm not wanting to hurt anybody. I just want to
put them away so that regular people, normal people, people
who believe in the beauty of America do not have

(08:12):
to ever breathe the same air as these maniacs do.
How do we stop that? You tell me, news Talk
eleven ten, nine nine Three WBT prosecutors, by the way,

(08:35):
allege that Red Kernect used chat GPT to create visions
of dystopian paintings of a city burning on one side
while hundreds of thousands of people in poverty are trying
to get past a gigantic gait with a big dollar
sign on it. I told you, ladies and gentlemen, one
hundred percent guaranteed antifod dude, that's what it's got to be.

(09:00):
They will never say it, but I'm telling you that
right now. I'm confident that this is an antifaught person,
especially with that notion, because he lit the fire. He
lit the fire, and he was hoping that all those
poor people would lose their lives and you'd have some
kind of a a new sort of revolution coming down

(09:23):
the line. Well they've got it. He burned sixty eight
hundred buildings, sixty eight hundred buildings, killed twelve people, and
destroyed Pacific Palisades and parts of Malibu. I hope somebody
shows up and just makes the case that this guy

(09:46):
just needs to go. Do not go to jail, go
directly to the hot place. That's what somebody should say
to him. You are a person that destroyed sixty eight
hundred buildings that that is something on a nuclear scale,
and this guy did this. Buddy, Welcome to the show.

(10:07):
What's on your mind? Buddy?

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Hey Brett, hey man, I love your show and what
you do out there. Thank you. You're talking about this,
and I completely agree. You wouldn't believe or I can't
believe you had I've had friends that were I've been
around forever, and I think some people just they want
to see other people suffer. Yes, that makes them feel
better about themselves. Earlier this year, my girl had like

(10:34):
major spinal surgery and while she's in surgery, you know,
I'm asking for positive thoughts and prayers and all this.
And I'm like a power of positive thinking that reads
about belief and and helps helps you get through to
know that things are going to be better. I had
this job I've known for years for years, always thought

(10:55):
was friend of mine. He goes, this just makes me
want to burn things. And I'm like, well, when I
get home, we'll have a bonfire and all that, and
he goes, that's not what I was talking about burning.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
It's like, were you burning me? My town? My neighborhood,
like right, But I would couldn't. I would bet money
that he's Antifa and I'm doing him all my life
and I had no idea.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, I don't. I don't understand how these how these
folks decide that they're going to be the judge and
and and juror and executioner, uh for for people that
they they don't even know. To me, it's shocking.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Well, it'll change her mind when they get in front
of the judge.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Oh well that's the truth. That that's that's absolutely the truth.
How was your by the way, how is your girl?
How's she doing?

Speaker 2 (11:38):
She's she's actually doing good. That was her sixth spinal
surgery and she's actually doing good. She said it's going
to be her last.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Wow. Wow, Wow. What's what's her first name?

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Victoria?

Speaker 1 (11:49):
All right, Victoria. All of us are going to pray
for for her, for a great recovery, and and for
you and being being a good guy man. That's that's
we gotta we gotta put we got to put her
in our prayers and and we appreciate you checking in
with us.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Thank you so much, Brett. Hey, I love your show man.
Keep up good work.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Thank you, buddy, you got it, man, Absolutely great, great,
great stuff. The Victoria. We gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna
pray for all right. I'm gonna I'm gonna dive into
this right now, because Isaac was challenging me, this is
something that is interesting Q and A on the long
term lessons from the interstellar visit of three I atlists.
I'm gonna go right into it right now. I gotta
do it. I have to do it because it's it's contemporary,

(12:28):
all right. This is this is interesting. Lying, filthy, despicable
arsonists are not interesting to me. We we we we
understand enough about that guy. The object is a rare
gift from interstellar space, and it's large size and near
alignment with the the ecoplictic plane made it observable by Mars,

(12:51):
so they've been able to see it over Mars. In
a few interviews last night, people have been talking about this.
It's very interesting. Interstellar objects take millions to billions of
years to arrive into the Inner Solar System, so they
think this thing is actually billions of years old. This
actual thing is billions of years old, and they're they're

(13:16):
getting excited. Isaac, I think this may be something you
may want to do maybe on a weekend or even
you know, during a summertime break. They are going to
try to get a sample of the materials present in
the parent systems. So you might want to be getting
up on that thing, climbing up and scraping and chiseling
and doing all that kind of stuff. Might be kind
of goold thing to do. They say that it came

(13:40):
through the Milky Way galaxy at large two billion years old,
by the way, representative on a Poluna on a Paulina
Luna luna. See see how you do that luna that's
really good. Has been keeping in touch and voice and
concerns about possible probes. They're they're saying that this is

(14:04):
this is, you know, something that we got to keep
an eye on. So well, yeah, that's your three I
at list update. That's a that's a very small, basic one,
but it's important and you know, the let's be honest here,
it's important to look at the the stuff that's going
out there around here. What what did I say? I
didn't say anything out of line, I didn't say anything

(14:24):
out of order. I just said that this thing came
into our to our neighborhood. We ought to welcome it.
We ought to welcome it. And if you've got some
space people in there, we had to We had to
take the paddles and and and and bring them back,
Like what's the worst that could happen. We'd make new
friends and they'd be able to talk to us and

(14:44):
tell the other people on the other side of the
two billion years like what's up? We went over there,
These nice, weird people were very friendly, and I'm telling
you right now, this is what we have to do.

(15:14):
News Talk eleven, ten of nine three wbt oh WHOA
Chinese government records list left wing billionaire Neville Roy Singham
as a corporate officer for Thought Works in Beijing. Tech
billionaire turned left wing agitator Neville Roy Singham's journey from

(15:39):
Chicago to a entrepreneur in Shanghai as a resident has
been anything but ordinary. Oh, this is one of these
stories that's going to get very very little play. I'm
just telling you that right now, right out of the box,
very little play. You're not going to hear anything about this.
But the reason why you should know about this particular

(15:59):
person is because he's a funder. He's a funder, not Thunder,
not the thunder down under. He's a funder of groups
that maybe you've heard of, maybe maybe you haven't. Maybe
this is somebody new to you, including but not limited
to anti ice protests, pro hamas, college encampments. And this

(16:24):
is a guy who is trying to take America to
a different location, to a different sort of a setup here.
And so this this is one of those people that
is the funders. They fund things, They they do the
things that the that the money gets utilized for, you know,
like for example, maybe who knows, you know, maybe you

(16:45):
got some some some certain things that you want to
be accomplished in a community. Maybe you want to change
it up a little bit, maybe you want to take
the money and and deploy it against the the rest
of us. And he is supported by I'm sorry to
tell you, but he is supported by the chicoms. Chicoms. Yeah.

(17:10):
Singham has been in the news a lot lately, mostly
notable in connection with his role in the funding of
the anti Israel and sometimes anti Semitic protest movements on
college campuses. In twenty twenty three, a report from The
New York Post found that Singham and his wife left
wing Code Pink co founder Jody Evans, Yeah, she's a

(17:32):
total whack job had donated over twenty point four million
dollars to the People's Forum from twenty seventeen to twenty
twenty two through a series of shell organizations. I don't
have any shell organizations, like I just have money, but
I don't use shell organizations. I'm guessing that they're using
shell organizations because there's something untoured with this and donor

(17:55):
advisory groups accounting for nearly all of the group's funding.
Evans sits on the People's Forum Board of directors. The
People's Forum has put itself at the forefront of the
anti Israeli protest movement following the October seventh Hamas terror attack.
The People's Forum wasted no time in drumming up opposition

(18:17):
to the Israeli military action. And of course they are
supporters of Hamas. Starting like October eight, Humas were, they
were part of it. Singham has also notably funded groups
connected to the Los Angeles migrant riots. According to x

(18:39):
user data, Republican organizations backed by Singham have allegedly played
key roles in violent protests in the United States. So
it's not just it's not just advocation, you know, using
your advocate advocacy skills. It's actually about wrecking stuff, breaking stuff,
threatening people.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
So what you know you want to look, you want
a revolution, you gotta expect broken eggs. I mean, that's
that's what it is. That's what the communists always talk about. Hey, look,
if you if you, if you really want to get
it done, man, we're gonna have to put some people
in camps. That's the attitude of the commies. That's what
they do. You look at any any of the horrible
communist manifesto type stuff. Uh, it's always taking people and

(19:20):
putting them in in very untoward places. So just know
your funders, know your funders know what's going on. Understand
that you've got foreign activists who are trying to tell
you that the United States of America needs to be commy.
We have to go totally commy. Here's President Trump, he's
speaking live right now on on Fox News, and he's

(19:41):
talking about the White House Roundtable on Antifa. Whoa is
that that's a that's a that's a certain kind of
something there he's talking about Antifa. You know, he's he's
probably gonna make some point points on this. He's probably
gonna talk about it, about this in a in a
in a in a big way. He's got Pambondi next

(20:03):
to him, and I think he's concerned. And I can
tell you this right now, I'm guessing that what you
just saw take place with this arrest of the guy
who looks to be like an Antifa guy, I'm wondering
if Trump's going to turn it up now. I know
for a fact that there's a lot of people that

(20:25):
are working to try to weaken the United States of America. Okay,
that that that is, that is certain. But I believe
that an overwhelming majority of people love the United States,
want the United States to be successful, want to do
all the important things that need to be done right,
and and so that's that's. You know, you can have
whatever whatever ideology you want to have. You have your ideology,

(20:47):
whatever politics you have, but what you cannot do is
you can't shoot people in streets, and you can't you
can't go and burn buildings down, and you can't. You know,
you probably shouldn't be in cahoots, which is a technical
term in cahoots with with the c c CCP, c
C PCP and so that's that's one of the things

(21:09):
that that we're looking at here now. But I can
tell you this over the course of what's gone on
for what do we say, like two three weeks? Yeah,
about two three weeks. How long has it been since
since Charlie Kirk was murdered, Like about three weeks, right,
three four weeks something like that. I think there's a
new impetus to take take people very seriously when it

(21:31):
comes to the antifas stuff and all that. I think
people are now very much aware of what is happening,
what is going to come next, and I think there's
a lot of questions are going to have to be answered,
and I think there's going to probably be hearings. I
think yesterday was just the beginning of that analysis. So
certainly not a large contingency if people are behind this.

(21:53):
But the reality is we have to understand that the
United States of America is a great country. To feed me,
fogging me. That's ATA news Talk eleven ten, that a
nine three WBT, Okay, But I expand out across the
uh fruited plain and go back to California for quick second,

(22:16):
because uh, people ask me all the time. Okay, So
Gavin Newsom is gonna be done. He's finished. He wants
to be president, but I don't think he's gonna be
able to do it. Well, he's got somebody in the
chamber next up behind him, and it's a person called
Katie Porter. Katie Porter. Now Katie Porter is uh surly

(22:37):
she's she's out of southern California. I think she thinks
she can win the governorship against some of the Republicans
that are running. It's entirely possible. But this is a
person who is not strongly tethered to reality, I think.

(22:58):
At the same time, but you're gonna see more more
of her. And I knew this was going to blow
up overnight, and so I wanted to a pull. I've
got two clips I'm gonna play for you. So this
is Katie Porter. I'm not even gonna tell you what
she's saying. You just listened to it. This is this
is mad bonkers city cut number two. Please go.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
So on election night I was with I went to
pick up my daughter from water polo practice and she's twelve,
and she got in the car and she was crying,
and I said, did someone punch you like.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
Waterpool is a rough sport.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
I was like, did someone hit you?

Speaker 4 (23:32):
To the coach? Yell at you what happened? And she said, Mom,
Trump won, Trump's gonna win. And what if I get
raped and I need to have an abortion. This is
from a twelve year old, my twelve year old daughter.
And so it was really a reminder of how scary
this time is for people and how important it is
for Democrats to have strategies both at the state level

(23:54):
and the federal level to make sure that we can
continue to protect people's rights.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
What the hell is that you use your kid? You
use your kid in a horrible way. You use your
kid in a horrible way to try to make a point,
and you make it all This kid's gonna be teased,
gonna be harassed, gonna be what what is this? I don't,

(24:20):
for the life of me understand these these these these
radical people. It's it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Give me cut
number six. Uh. This is this is something that's even nuttier,
and it's coming to you courtesy of uh. Uh the

(24:40):
State of Illinois. Cut number six. Please go.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (24:43):
They think they can get people used to the idea
and next year. I fear that what they're gonna do
is deploy these folks eventually too polling places and say
they're protecting the vote. Donald Trump knows that without shenanigans
and without these breaches of the Constitution, that he's going

(25:06):
to lose the Congress, And if he loses, he's going
to immediately in the aftermath of the election, do what
he said he might do in twenty twenty, which is
use the military to confiscate the ballot boxes and count
the votes, claiming that there's fraud.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Remember, he's called up.

Speaker 7 (25:25):
All fifty states election data to the Department of Justice
because they want to review all fifty states for fraud.
And they won't tell you exactly what they're going to do.
But I fear that these are all connected. And this militarization,
even without National Guard or military troops on the ground,

(25:48):
you're seeing ICE act like a militaristic organization. You're seeing
CBP act like it.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
That's your governor of the state, Pritzker. That's Pritzker right there,
trying to freak people out, trying to get people agitated,
trying to get them all scared. Well, let me give
you a little antidote. This is a little antidote. This
is a man cut number one. This is a man

(26:18):
who sees what the game is there in Chicago. And
people are opening their eyes and they're not believing what
Pritzker's talking about. Because Pritzker, he's he's not ready for
prime time. He's really rich, he's a multi multi billionaire,
but he is not ready for prime time. He wants

(26:39):
to have a fight with the federal government. He wants
to have the fight with everybody who disagrees with him.
But listen to this man, this man who discovered something
over the course of the last few months years. Perhaps
cut number one.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Please go black people in Chicago.

Speaker 8 (26:54):
Let's get this clear for the record, so nobody has
continuous Right in twenty twenty one, when specifically Joe Biden
and Kamala Harris blooded Chicago with the illegal undocumented criminal invaders,
y'all didn't have nothing to say about that. Right when
the Mayor Loyd Lightfoot gave them benefits millions, pre paid
EBT cards with ten thousand dollars on it, pre paid

(27:15):
visa cards, six months worth of free rent, free healthcare,
free childcare, y'all were okay with that.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
And then you all continue to be okay with.

Speaker 8 (27:24):
It by going out and voting for Kamala Harris to
continue what she was doing with the open borders. Right
now now that ICE is there to actually do something
about it, right with Trump's mandate. Now you all are boohoo,
winding and crying, complaining that ICE is coming to black neighborhoods.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
What the hell is wrong with y'all?

Speaker 8 (27:43):
Where else are they supposed to go when that's where
y'all allowed them to go. You see, Democrats didn't put
these illegals in oak Brook or oak Park or Evanston,
in any of the white neighborhoods. Yet you got the
white liberals downtown protesting to keep those people there because
they know that they're in black neighborhoods.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
And y'all, y'all falling for this.

Speaker 8 (28:03):
Y'all voted for Kamala Harris, and now y'all are protesting
ICE come into black neighborhoods to remove these criminal invaders.
Y'all are calling ICE racist for coming to the black neighborhoods. Well,
why are they coming to the black neighborhoods because that's
where you all allowed them to go? So tell me
you a goofy democrat plantation slave without telling me you
a goofy democrat plantation slave.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Here's the problem. Here's the problem. People's eyes are being opened.
People's eyes are being opened. People understand that not everything
that they try to present to you is factual. Some
of it is kind of foolhardy, just like that story
that you heard from Katie Porter who wants to be
the governor of the state of California, using her daughter

(28:52):
on some supposed argument about being raped and not being just.
I mean, for goodness sake, Overwhelmingly people want to be
safe in their neighborhoods Okay. And I understand. I understand
that progressives they tend to look at people in terms

(29:15):
of their value to the progressive movement. But the reality
is you're seeing a ton of people coming out in Chicago,
in Illinois, in California and other places who have had
it with the progressives coming out there and telling you
how it's got to be. Look, I can give you

(29:36):
just a random clip right here. This is cut number four.
That's right, Joy behar this genius. Good luck with that.
Let's hear it.

Speaker 9 (29:45):
There is crime in American cities, but the way to
deal with it is get the funding that you need
for police, get the training that you need, and work
with local officials.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
This is a pretext to stop the next election. That's
what I think it.

Speaker 10 (29:56):
I would say it might also be a distraction from
the hearing that's going on right now about the Epstein file.
Right some things have come up and ag Pam BONDI
was answer dodging questions, but and attacking back. Do you
not think maybe the whole civil unrest storyline is maybe overblown.

Speaker 9 (30:14):
I think that Donald Trump also sees American troops in
US cities as a sign of strength. I think most
Americans don't. I think they see it as like societal breakdown.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
There is a societal breakdown. All of the people that
have come into the country illegally. That is the societal breakdown.
It's not Donald Trump that's the societal breakdown. It's not
the people who are saying, like that young man who's
just on a second ago, that's not that's not that's
not goofy, that's not craziness, that's none of that sort
of stuff. This is a person who's living in that

(30:43):
community and he's saying, listen, you guys have done it.
Absolutely wrongly. The American people have had it. The American
people are waking up. The American people say, no, no way,
not now.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
I have.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
This is my recital. I think it's very vital.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Top round.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
That's right on top. It's tricky, it is tricky, but
it's never tricky when coach shows up. And it's great
to have you here, Coach Dougherty, thanks so much for
making time for us.

Speaker 6 (31:27):
Always man my favorite day of the week.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
So let me ask you a couple of questions here. Okay,
we obviously have a disconnect that's happening with the cities,
uh not wanting to abide by immigration law. We're seeing
a lot of raucous behavior going on in places like
Chicago and and and other places as well. What what

(31:50):
is the breakdown here in terms of leadership and and
wanting to try to make America a safer country? What
what what's the problem with it?

Speaker 6 (32:00):
It's very puzzling. Listen. I am a you know, I'm
a fundamental coach, and you know, since the first I've
been on your show, I've talked about you know, human
beings want basic rights, right, and they want food, they
want shelter, and they want safety. And you know, a

(32:24):
lot of ways the government can provide all three, you know,
but the government and local authorities should at least provide
you know, safety first, because without safety, food and shelter
don't matter, right, And so I always go to like
the core, the most root issue, and if we don't

(32:49):
have safety, nothing else matters. And to me, the emotion,
you know, as I look at our country and you think,
you know, we've talked about socialism and communism and all
the other isms, and what the governor of Illinois, Pritzker,

(33:16):
is doing to ice officials, I think as BONDI was
accusing someone saying, you know, I wish you loved your
city as much as you hated Trump. That they people
become a rational and I get that, but you know,

(33:38):
you know, I'm driving home from Charlotte and I drive
by Davidson and I see these adults on the overpass
with flags American flags talking about democracy and get ridden
as a dictator, and you know, they're anti Trump. They're
left there and I'm like, and this is where Charlie

(34:02):
Kirk was great, because he wanted to have conversations with
those people. And Abraham Lincoln said, you know, I do
not like that man, I must get to know him better. Well,
here's the problem. Most of us don't have time, and
a lot of our arguments take place in social media.
So you know, you're you're a tough guy, you know

(34:22):
on social media, but when you're actually in front of
somebody and you could read the two most important parts
of communication, which are body language in tone, not just content.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Sure, you can have.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
More civil conversations, even though you might be an opposite
ends of the spectrum. But I think if you say, listen,
we all can agree we want safety, right sure, you know,
and try to get to the other side of the
table with that person. I think that's what Charlie Kirk did.
So well, you know it's got to start there. And
so how does how does that? How does how do

(35:02):
we manifest safety? How do we how do we maintain it? Well,
you've got to control the pors. You've got to invest
in in law and order, and you've got to have rules.
And you can't just let somebody get a slap on
the wrist for killing somebody, or somebody get out on
bail after they had some felony. And like the gentleman

(35:25):
the person did in Charlotte who killed the lady on
the train that you know, Yeah, we can care for
people and have a good heart for people and a
Christian heart, but at the expense of putting other people
at risk. You know, there's got to be some middle
ground that makes sense. And I just think the logic

(35:48):
and the reasoning is totally out of whack because I
just think that they do they do hate Trump and
some people hate our country.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Maybe they should get to know him better. I think
I think it's probably the end.

Speaker 6 (36:03):
Yeah, maybe they should get exactly good point.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
And all right, So, coach, where do people go to
get coached by you? Because I know you're somebody who
likes to get things done, working, working and and helping
people out. You got a heart for this, You've got
great leadership skills. Where do they go so that they
can catch up with you?

Speaker 6 (36:21):
Coach? Well, thank you? And I always didn't and didn't
always have great leadership skills. And that's that's why I'm
passionate about what I do as an executive coach, because
leadership is a learned behavior. And ironically, I was just
on the phone with the gentleman you know who does
my website, Sandra Walker, and just updating it to freshen
it up, and they can go to Darty Coaching dot com.

(36:44):
That's d O h e r t y Coaching dot com.
And I just want to challenge our listeners that study
history right. And I think when you look at she's
like Argentina and Venezuela and they had things going well

(37:06):
and then they didn't, you know, And it comes down
to leadership, and it comes down to trying to populism,
you know, and going with somebody that says, yeah, I'll
take care of you, I'll give you what you need.
And they live in a funnel of hope. But when

(37:26):
they get out the bottom, get out of the bottom
of the funnel, they're they're in a mess. They're in
a sewer. And you know, there's some really charismatic leaders
and people that want to go against the what's good
I think for our country, and people like Dommi, who

(37:46):
scares me in New York that he actually will get
voted in as the mayor of New York. And you know,
if you just look at what's happened historically, the York
won't survive. I can't survive right, just economically the numbers history,
but people wann't easy and they don't study history and

(38:12):
because it's either too hard or too painful to work.
And so I pray, pray for our country, pray for
New York in particular.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
You're going to see an exodus into Connecticut, Pennsylvania, and
New Jersey if this thing comes.

Speaker 6 (38:29):
Already happening, I mean it, you know, it's it's happening,
and it's going to continue to happen. But it's a
shame that that's what has to be. And you know,
maybe you know, I heard some politicians and say this
that maybe that's what it's going to take for it
to swing back. And I just feel maybe I'm going

(38:49):
too long here, So I apologize that, you know, we
should have learned something by the past presidential administration and
learned that, yeah, that's not good for our country. Open borders,
free stuff is not good for our country. And so
why would people think it's good for New York City?
And and but I go back. The counter to that

(39:13):
is that the indoctrination of young people in these you know,
universities and below is so powerful that now they become
voting members and they're like, yeah, we should get free stuff,
Yeah we should be entitled to that, right, Yeah, we
should give we should take care of the all the
legal immigrants. We should okay, yeah, take care of Martin.

(39:36):
Let them move into your apartment. Oh no, no, I
wouldn't want that.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Good luck, Yeah, good luckable.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
So I just uh, there's going to be a hard
reality and it does come down to leadership. But you know,
somebody asked me this, what what what do we need?
We need good parents with Christian values?

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Oh? Absolutely right, absolutely right. Coach Doherty? Uh, where do
people go to get coached?

Speaker 6 (40:06):
Sire? Doerity coaching dot com? That's d o h E
R t Y Coaching dot com.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Thanks so much, sir, I appreciate it. Let's catch up
next week.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
My friend.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
H Yes, I'm in a given mood, ladies and gentlemen,
a big giving mood. And uh, I want to offer
you what are we getting here? We're getting is it two?
Is it two? Two? We got? I got two tickets
for you for News and Bruce Oktoberfest coming up. That's right,
you get two tickets. It's going to be a name
on the list plus a guest at the News and

(40:53):
Bruce event coming up Octoberfest October the twenty ninth Wednesday
to twenty ninth Heist Brewery and Barrel Arts. And that's
over at ten thirty Woodward Avenue. You get to join
the team from News Talk eleven ten and ninety nine
three WBT for a rundown of the biggest stories of
the week. We're gonna be talking and enjoying it. We

(41:15):
are absolutely thrilled to have you there, and so we're
gonna do Caller number eight. Caller number eight gets to
win these tickets, and I want to wish you good luck.
I can't wait. I can't wait to see you. I
can't wait to talk with you. If you don't want
to talk with me, that's okay. I can arrange other
people to talk with you. All that sort of stuff.

(41:36):
I'm I'm amenable to many different sorts of things. But
Caller number eight seven four five, seven zero one one
one zero, Caller number eight, good luck. That was dramatic.
I wanted to do that in a dramatic way.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Good luck.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
All right, Let's take a look at a couple other
things that are happening. This storyline coming out of the
Fox News Channel. The Fox News Channel representative Mike Lawler,
who is a Republican in New York State demanded that
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries sign on to a bipartisan

(42:20):
build temporarily extending enhanced Obamacare subsidies, leading to a heated confrontation.
That's what happened. Basically, here's what was offered up and
I think it's a pretty reasonable offer. The offer was, Okay,
we'll extend it one more year and then let's get
things back to regular business. And that was not going
to work. Hakeem Jefferies is not happy about this. Hakeem

(42:42):
Jeffries was cursing and yelling, and Mike Lawler was, you know,
yelling and curson and all kinds of stuff like that. So,
you know what, we're at an impass. We're at an impass,
and I think we've we've only got probably until like
November seventh or something before or it really starts to
get down and dirty at eleven thirty. And that's a problem.

(43:04):
That that's a that's a problem because you would think
people would be willing to have conversations. We get messages,
by the way, the text Groove WBT text line driven
by Liberty Buick GMC. We got some feedback coming back.
We got let's see here, no name. Sorry about that,

(43:24):
no name. Destruction is easy, communication, building and maintenance are
hard work. You're to a chipper. You're to chipper, be dramatic.
You're to chipper, be dramatic. It's some kind of a
weird code. I don't know what that means. I don't
have a wood chipper. I don't because I have no trees.

(43:47):
I have no trees. I have no wood chippers, have
a I have an asphalt I have an asphalt backyard,
So I don't have I don't have any trees. There
are no trees that are available in that location, or
maybe they're not, I don't know. Because voters keep voting
for Democrats. That's a comment that came in. We've also
got we stop it by growing a set and handling ourselves, praying, talking,

(44:12):
and voting our feudal gestures. Well, come on now, mister
five six two, what are you doing with this? What
is the alternative? You're going to go like invade somebody's
house and force them to take up your politics. You
can't do that. That's not going to be they of
the way of the peacemaker. We moved to Colt when
we moved to Charlotte fifteen years ago from Eaton Canyon

(44:35):
area and just wanted to remind people that the fire
took working class homes, not just mansions. Our grandma's little
house where we shared so many Christmases and memories and
our parents married in the backyard, was all burned to
the ground. I hope this loser being all over the

(44:57):
TV doesn't inspire other losers. And I think your hunch
about him is correct. That's the person who was responsible
or has been indicted for the fire that took place.
Chris reminding me on that one as well. And then
we have let's see what else we got a Pritzker
and Johnson are both the left wing extremists trying to

(45:18):
intimidate their constituents. They are trying to deflect attention away
from themselves and their criminal activities. I moved from Illinois
and will never ever go back. Well, I'm glad you're
not going back. I'm glad you're you found yourself a placer. Yeah,
I found it. It was pretty good. Oh, I got
another message. You're too chipper to be dramatic. Oh I'm

(45:42):
too chipper. I'm not putting someone in the chipper I'm
too chipper to be dramatic. Oh you know what, I
appreciate that that's a nice thing that you've picked up
off of me. And I've gone way, way, way too long.
I'm sorry. I'm going to apologize. Nothing to see her,

(46:10):
nothing to see here. I just don't want you to panic.
Don't worry about this. This is obviously not anything, and
it is important that I'm about to tell you. Let
me hit let me hit you with this thing. A
man with two hundred explosives and leftist manifesto arrested outside
Supreme Court event at church. According to the police in Washington, DC,

(46:33):
I gotta ask you, Isaac, does this guy look like
a kind of guy that would be like a terrorist?
This guy right there, is he terroristical looking?

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (46:41):
I think he's very terroristical looking. It looks very terroristic,
terroristically probably Antifa maybe, who knows. Washington DC police on
Sunday arrested a man with hundreds of explosive devices outside
of church that was holding a mass in honor of
the Supreme Court. The man had a manifesto that suggested

(47:04):
he was targeting the Supreme Court and Catholics. According to
papers obtained by the Daily wire. Louis Geary, aged forty one,
from Arizona and New Jersey, well pick one darn. It

(47:24):
was apprehended outside the Cathedral of Saint Matthew the Apostle
on October the fifth. The same day, the church held
its annual Red Mass, in which the Cardinal praise for
the High Court Justice as it embarks on a new term,
and which is historically attended by the justices. Jerry was

(47:45):
occupying a green tent on the steps of the church
when police attempted to clear the area in preparation for
the Supreme Court event. He told police, you might want
to stay back and call the FEDERALIHS. I have explosives.
According to an affidavit, A member of the Metropolitan Police

(48:10):
Department's bomb squad then told him that he needed to
move because of a special event. He replied, I'm aware
of that, police wrote and threatened to throw a bomb
into the street as the demonstration was beginning. Police said
that they would remove him against his will, and he replied, quote,

(48:32):
several of your people are going to die from one
of these. With a lighter in one hand, he handed
them nine pieces of paper that amounted to a manifesto
entitled Written Negotiations for the Avoidance of Destruction of property
via detonation of explosives. You see what kind of people

(48:55):
just get out of their minds. This is obviously somebody
who needs to be in an institution and medicated, because
this is a person who's doing like whatever he's doing,
I don't even know what it is. The manifesto revealed
his significant animosity towards Catholics and members of jew Jewish faith,

(49:18):
members of Scotis, and ice and ICE facilities. Police wrote,
indicating that the incident might be the latest in a
string of left wing domestic terrorism. There's a lot of
left wing domestic terrorism. Like, there's a substantial amount of
left wing terrorism. Jury then shifted his right thumb over

(49:44):
the top of a buttane lighter to initiate the lighting
action and stated, quote, you better have these people step
away or there's going to be deaths. Okay. See this
is the problem that I have. How much do you
you have to actually warn him before you actually just
tackle him and take him into custody. I'm serious, Like,

(50:09):
so we have to sit there and we have to
go round and round and round and round, And what
if the guy had had a vest. What if he
had a bomb vest on him. I mean, I would
think you'd want to try to take him into custody
very quickly. But I mean, I guess they know better.

(50:32):
A bomb squad technician located in his pocket a vial
with a white cap which contained yellow liquid inside, with
an m device tape to the exterior. After he was arrested,
the bomb Squad located a large cachet of handmade destructive
devices in the tent. Police said he was charged with

(50:57):
unlawful entry, manufact a transfer, use, and possession of transportation
of malotov cocktails or other explosives for unlawful purposes, Threats
to kidnap or injure a person, assaults on police officers,

(51:18):
possession of destructive devices, et cetera, et cetera. So they
took them to jail. He's being held without bond. No
justices were injured, nobody was injured. But suddenly now we've
got instant to lunacy going on here. And the fact is,
regular people have a right to go and be out there.

(51:42):
I mean, it's one of the things that you just
sit back there and you go, what the heck is
this all about? I mean, I think you just got
to make a move. I think you just got to
go and take him into custody. And if it doesn't
seem like he's really got a whole bunch of weapons
on him, then then why then why are we? Why
are we? Why are we dilly dallying? You tell me

(52:07):
I'm challenging this audience. You tell me why are they
dilly dallying? Seven O four five seven oh eleven ten.
If you're pro dilly dally seven O four five seven
oh eleven ten. If you are anti dilly dally, you
can call at seven oh four five seven zero one
one one zero, And then, of course there is always

(52:29):
if you want to comment on the Dilly Dalli in
WBT text line driven by Liberty Buick GMC no more
dilly Deli News Talk eleven ten down nine three WBT.
I don't have a name. I don't have a name

(52:50):
attached to this. This is a challenge coming my way though.
So I was talking about dilly and dallying, right, don't
be a Dillydali. I've been challenged by a take and
it is what if you're pro dilly but anti daly,
that's you cannot It's impossible it's actually you cannot be

(53:13):
pro dilly and anti dai. You have to either be
pro dilly and pro dealy, or you have to be
anti dilly anti deli. There's no, there's no we don't
we keep it. We keep it with the two genders
of of dilly dealiing. Does that make sense? It makes
no sense to me. I don't know what I just said.

(53:34):
The dilly in the dai is it's something that's important.
It's like salt and pepper, right, It's like salt and pepper.
It's like mac and cheese. It's like peanut butter and
butterscotch on a sandwich. No, I made that one up.
I'm embarrassed. I'm gonna give myself a timeout for thirty seconds.

(53:57):
Let's go out and check in with Stanley, who says,
I wonder what would happen if people in the red
states and cities started protesting the irs and paying income
taxes using the same methods that these radicals are doing
regarding federal immigration laws and ice in blue cities and states.

(54:22):
In essence, these blue states want to add millions of
alien voters in their cities and states, illegally increasing their
influence in federal elections and thus where and how federal
dollars are allocated versus other locales that they are not

(54:47):
playing by the rules. Eventually, if this isn't stopped, something
like that will be the only recourse that other states have.
Let me tell you that is exactly right, and that
is why they dumped all of these people in certain

(55:08):
cities here. Let me give you an example. Okay, once
upon a time, Once upon a time, there was a theory.
Maybe you heard of it, okay, and I'm not endorsing it,
but there's something to it in this period of time though,
and that was the replacement theory theory. Remember the replacement theory.

(55:32):
People lost their minds when Tucker Carlson would talk about
it back when he was still on Fox that there
are replacement people coming in. Well give me the can
you give me cut number one again? The kid, the
kid from Chicago, Because basically, what the kid in Chicago
is talking about is being replaced by people who are

(55:54):
coming into the country illegally. This is essentially what the
guy is saying, Go ahead, fired up one.

Speaker 8 (56:00):
Black people in Chicago. Let's get this clear for the record,
so nobody is confused. Right in twenty and twenty twenty one,
when Democrats, specifically Joe Biden and Kamala Harris flooded Chicago
with the illegal, undocumented criminal invaders, y'all didn't have nothing
to say about that. Right when the mayor, Loyd Lightfoot
gave them benefits millions, pre paid EBT cards with ten

(56:21):
thousand dollars on it, pre paid visa cards, six months
worth of free rent, free healthcare, free childcare, y'all were
okay with that.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
And then you all continue to be.

Speaker 8 (56:30):
Okay with it by going out and voting for Kamala Harris.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
To continue what she was doing with the open borders.

Speaker 8 (56:35):
Right now, now that ICE is there to actually do
something about it, right with Trump's mandate. Now you all
are boohoo, winding and crying, complaining that ICE is coming
to black neighborhoods. What the hell is wrong with y'all?
Where else is they supposed to go? When that's where
y'all allowed them to go. You see, Democrats didn't put
these illegals in oak Brook or oak Park or Evanston

(56:58):
in any of the white neighborhoods.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Yet you've got the white liberals.

Speaker 8 (57:01):
Downtown protesting to keep those people there because they know
that they're in black neighborhoods.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
And y'all, y'all falling for this.

Speaker 8 (57:10):
Y'all voted for Kamala Harris, and now y'all are protesting
ICE come into black neighborhoods to remove these criminal invaders.
Y'all are calling ICE racist for coming to the black neighborhoods. Well,
why are they coming to the black neighborhoods, because that's
where you all allowed them to go. So tell me
you a goofy democrat plantation slave without telling me you
a goofy democrat plantation slave.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
So hold on a second. Who is the biggest beneficiary
of the influx of people who came in illegally into
the United States? Who is the greatest Who is the
greatest beneficiary of people coming into the country illegally? Anybody guess?
Can you guess? We're almost at the end of the hour,

(57:55):
So I will tell you the teachers unions. It's the schools.
People have been fleeing inner city schools. People have been
fleeing uh underperforming schools for a really long time. A
lot of people move out and they go live in
in in really fabulous neighborhoods now, right, because that's that's
that's where the really good schools are. And so what

(58:16):
are we going to do. We can't possibly shut down
these schools. We have to bring these schools back up
to code and teach all of these people, whether they're
legal or not. It doesn't make any sense. That's what
the thing was. And what he's basically telling you is,
here's a community. They start just dumping people in the community.
Nobody has to say about it. They're not dumping it
out in the nice you know, in the in the

(58:37):
big fancy neighborhoods like New Trier and and and and
glenn Brook South and glen Brook North and all that
sort of stuff. They they they're they're they're just gonna
put people in the in the in the failing schools.
And that's exactly that's what he's saying. That's what he's
saying it. You know, Tucker Carlson called it a replacement,

(58:57):
you know idea. The fact of the matter is they
don't want to lose any more people, so they'll take
people who are coming in illegally, not vetted, not checked.
Tell me the last time you got a ten thousand
dollars gift card to go shopping. He just told you

(59:18):
that they did it for the newcomers. Oh what CTA. Probably,
I'm sure, I'm sure Chicago Teacher's authority. I'm sure they
did it. Seven four, seven eleven ten. I just got

(59:54):
a question, is it a long way to the top
if you want a rock and roll seven oh four
five seven eleven ten. If it's not a long way
to the top, if you want a rock and roll
seven oh four five to seven oh eleven ten, get

(01:00:19):
in rob get in Stone, overblown horrible. Yep. It's even
harder for JB. Pritzker. He gets carried in a sedan chair.

(01:00:44):
They just they put him in the thing and they
carry them all around town. And it's like a big
pinata thing kind of a thing that's going on. Welcome
to the program. It is our number three. That means
absolutely nothing because all of the show is available on
the podcast. If you miss any of it, please feel
free to reach out and let us know what you're
thinking about. But I want to go back to a

(01:01:06):
person that is incredibly entitled, very entitled, and she is
a person called Katie Porter. Okay, Katie Porter, this person
you need to pay close attention to because she is
the next person up behind Gavin Newsom in terms of
the Democratic Party. The setup is very clear on the

(01:01:30):
Democratic side, the Democratic Party side, Gavin Newsom is going
to be done in twenty twenty eight. Katie Porter wants
to be the next governor of the state of California,
and man, I feel badly, so badly for the folks
there in California. I've got two evidences here for you
to hear in this regard. So let's start off with

(01:01:53):
this one. This one is particularly awful Katie Porter and
her position and on Donald Trump getting reelected. Cut number two.

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
Go.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
So on election night I was with I went to
pick up my daughter from water polo practice and she's twelve,
and she got in the car and she was crying,
and I said, did someone punch you?

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Like?

Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
Water pool is a rough sport.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
I was like, did someone hit you? To the coach?
Yell at you what happened?

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
And she said, Mom, Trump won, Trump's gonna win, And.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
What if I get raped and I need to have
an abortion.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
This is from a twelve year old, my twelve year
old daughter, And so it was really a reminder of
how scary this time is for people, and how important
it is for Democrats to have strategies both at the
state level and the federal level to make sure that
we can continue to protect people's rights.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
How why would you say that story like you're humiliating
your daughter. If it happened, that should be like a
private conversation, I would think, But you're talking about all
this kind of stuff. To me, it's weird. It's a
weird thing to just kind of throw out there. I don't,

(01:03:07):
I don't. I don't get it. I don't get it.
You'll understand a little bit more after this second clip
that she's got. She's relevant because she's going to be
a high profile person. I'm telling you this right now.
They always they always bring in the most radical sorts,
and she is radical. Cut number nine. She's doing an
interview with a reporter who is in charge of doing

(01:03:31):
interviews with people who are running for office in California.
Cut number nine.

Speaker 11 (01:03:34):
What do you say to the forty percent of California
voters who you'll need in order to win, who voted
for Trump?

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
How would I need them in order to win?

Speaker 11 (01:03:43):
Man, Well, unless you think you're going to get sixty
percent of the vote. You think you'll get sixty percent?
All of everybody who did not vote for Trump will
vote for you. That's what you're in a general election.

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
Yes, if it is me versus a Republican, I think
that I will win the people who did not vote
for Trump.

Speaker 5 (01:03:59):
What if it's you versus another Democrat?

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
I don't intend that to be the case.

Speaker 5 (01:04:03):
So how do you not intend that to be the case?
Do you? Are you going to ask them not to run?

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
No, I'm saying I'm going to build the support. I
have the support already in terms of name recognition, and
so I'm going to do the very best I can
to make sure that we get through this primary in
a really strong position. But let me be clear with you.
I represented Orange County. I represented a purple area. I
have stood on my own two feet and one Republican
votes before. That's not something every candidate in this race
can say. If you're from a deep blue area, if

(01:04:29):
you're from LA or you're from Oakland, you don't have
an experience.

Speaker 11 (01:04:32):
You just said you don't need those Trump voters, So
you asked me if I needed them to win, So
you don't. I feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative.

Speaker 5 (01:04:39):
What is your question? The question is the same thing
I asked everybody that this is.

Speaker 11 (01:04:43):
Being called the empowering voters to stop Trump's power grab.

Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
Every other candidate has answered this question. This is not
and I said I support it.

Speaker 11 (01:04:52):
So and the question is what do you say to
the forty percent of voters who voted for Trump?

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you
need them to win? Part that I don't understand. I'm
happy to answer the question. Answer the question is you
haven't written and all answer.

Speaker 11 (01:05:04):
And we've also asked the other candidates do you think
you need any of those forty percent of California voters
to win?

Speaker 5 (01:05:10):
And you're saying, no, you don't.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every
vote I can. And what I'm saying to you.

Speaker 11 (01:05:15):
Is that, well to those voters, Okay, so you I
don't want to keep doing this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
I'm going to call it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:05:23):
You're not going to do the interview with them?

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
No, I'm not like this. I'm not not with seven
follow ups to every single question.

Speaker 5 (01:05:28):
You ask every other candidate has I don't care.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
I don't care. I want to have a pleasant, positive
conversation which you asked me about every issue on this list.
And if every question you're going to make up a
follow up question, then we're never going to get there
and we're just going.

Speaker 5 (01:05:44):
To circle around. And I have had to do this
before ever, You've never had to have any to end. Okay,
but every other candidate has done this.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
What part of I'm me? I'm running for governor because
I'm a leader, so I am going to make so.

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
You're not going to answer questions from reporters. Okay, why
don't we go through?

Speaker 11 (01:06:04):
I will continue to ask follow up questions because that's
my job as a journalist. But I will go through
and ask these and if you don't want to answer,
you don't want to answer.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
So you get the sense there, right, Well, I just
want to give you one less little bit of a
tidbit of Katie Porter. Katie Porter scalded her ex husband's
scalp with potatoes once upon a time. This is back
in twenty twenty three. The former husband of Representative Katie
Porter said the California Democrat frequently abused him verbally and

(01:06:36):
through toys, books, and other objects at him during their marriage,
even pouring scalding hot mashed potatoes on his head during
a fight. According to divorce records, I understand there's a
he say, she said, you know sort of thing. Matthew Hoffman,
filed for divorce in twenty thirteen, said in a request

(01:06:59):
for a training order dated April thirtieth of that year
that he was routinely called a blanking idiot and a
blanking incompetent by his rage prone spouse, who also shattered
a glass coffee pot on their kitchen counter in March
of twenty twelve when she felt that their house wasn't
clean enough. I can't I can't even see that. I

(01:07:23):
can't imagine that. I can't imagine that happened. Can you.

(01:07:49):
We've got a lot of commentary coming in on the
text line. You can reach out whenever you want. You
can reach out WBT text line driven by Liberty buick
G Good to be with you. I did get some
feedback off of this, So here is one of the
things that we got from STAN. The ten thousand dollars

(01:08:14):
EBT shopping cards were allocated at the federal level but
spent locally. Everyone else in the country paid for it
in their form of higher prices when they shopped. Well,
that's true, goes on to say, in most of the world,
the penalty Wait a minute, I'm trying to figure out

(01:08:35):
where this is. Okay, In most of the world, the
penalty for rape is life in prison or death, depending
on the circumstances. What you tell your daughter when they
ask you that question. What if I'm raped and I
can't get an abortion because of bad Orange man is
thanks his crime enforcement policies, including the penalties, your odds

(01:08:58):
of having to live with that are as remote as
winning the lottery. Now go practice safe sex. And I
guess that's one way of looking at things. What else
did we get here? Okay, we got we got somebody
saying when I heard that, I knew Katie Porter was
likely out of touch with the middle class. Love your show.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
She is.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
She really is out of she really is out of
the out of the running. I think I don't think
that she's somebody that's ready for prime time. Not everybody
is supposed to become a governor. Not everybody is supposed
to Some people are good being congress people, right, or
they're good being senators, or they're good being presidents, or
they're good being you know whatever. I mean, there's a

(01:09:42):
lot of different ways you can go about these things.
And by the way, by the way, so she's a
congress person and there's you know, we got five hundred
and thirty five congress people in the in the House,
in the House. Right, So with that in mind, with
that in mind, why why do you have to stay

(01:10:03):
in the Congress forever? Like, why can't you just go
serve one term? Right, I'm just gonna do two years.
I'm just gonna go serve one term. Or I'm gonna
go run as a senator. I'm just gonna serve one term.
I'm gonna leave, I'm gonna I'm gonna go back to
to my life. I mean, are are we? Are we?
Or are we not? And please feel free to reach
out in this regard, whether on the text line or

(01:10:26):
even on the on the phone seven oh four five,
seven eleven ten. If you ran for office, if you
decided I'm going to be civic minded, would you rather
be a congress person or a senator?

Speaker 6 (01:10:38):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
One is two years, one is six years? Would you
have the wherewithal to just serve one term and go home?
Like you think about jury duty, you don't go to
jury duty and stay there for nine years. You handle
the case that you handle, and then you go home, right,
I mean, so why do we Why is it one

(01:11:01):
of these progressions where you say, hey, I'm going to
go be a state Assembly then a state senator, and
then I'm going to be a congressional guy, and then
I'm going to be a senator and then I'm gonna
be the president. I think it keeps you sharper if
you just pick one job, go do your thing. You

(01:11:23):
get to get back home after a period of time
and everything is cool. That's one of the things that
always like kind of bugs me. People stay too long.
My gosh. I think there's been like two or three
congress people who have died during the this this session.

(01:11:44):
Jerry Connolly. I think Jerry Connolly, who was a progressive
Democrat from the Commonwealth of Virginia, he lost his life.
He died, he was sick and he died and he
died in office. And then I think there was somebody
else that I'm trying to I'm trying to remember accurately.

(01:12:06):
I think it was two. I actually think it was
two Democrats that lost their lives. Uh over that, over
that period of time. And certainly, you know, we thank
you for the service, and we thank you for the
stuff that you're talking about, and and all that kind
of stuff. But the fact of the matter is, like,
why should you stay there forever? It doesn't make any
sense to me, Like I understand that there are people

(01:12:27):
who say, okay, we we we dodged a bullet when
we decided we were going to go with just two
terms of a presidency because you know, once upon a time, uh,
in the aftermath of FDR, right, you could just keep
running and you if you just kept running and you
just kept getting elected, you know, you could you could
be that that person. Right, you could do it over
and over and over again. And then the Republicans, because

(01:12:50):
they did not like the idea of having four terms,
uh with with FDR, they they put in that legislation,
they put in the actually the the rule that it's
only two you can only go two or ten years
or two terms. And the reason why you did the
ten years or two terms was if somebody died in office,

(01:13:13):
you would be able to finish out their term and
then you would get two terms. Right, that was the
ten year rule versus the way it was once upon
a time where you could just keep running. There are
some people that would be able to keep running, and
some people would be really good at keeping running. But
it's a big question that's out there. John, welcome to

(01:13:37):
the show. What's on your mind?

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
I give the Senate one term six years?

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Oh very good? All right, I like it, And then
you'd head back home and get back to business.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Yeah, I got two other things I want to do
to give my time to my citizens much longer than that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Love that great stuff, John, Thank you for calling in
News Talk eleven ten, not that I'm three w BT

(01:14:13):
Brett Waterble Show. Good to be with you. All right,
let's dive into a couple of other things that are
that are happening out there as well, because we've got
we've a limited amount of time to get you all
totally up to speed with all the things that are
that are happening uh here and around the world. So
let's let's let's go look at something that I think

(01:14:35):
is pretty uh is pretty interesting. We have now got
Pritzker and Gavin and not Gavin Newsom. I could I
could say Gavin Newsom, but we have Pritzker and we
have Brandon Johnson who are are now just trying to
make a big to do over all the stuff that
is happening. The weird thing about what's going on on

(01:15:00):
in Chicago, especially in Illinois itself, is that you're not
seeing people who are ICE officers mishandling, people showing disrespect
or any of that. The reason why we know that
is because you would see that on MSNBC and you
would see that on CNN. So clearly, the ICE agents

(01:15:25):
that are working in Chicago and environs are actually following
the protocols and things like that. It's the street folks
that are coming out that are creating the drama and
all that sort of stuff. And so that is something
that I think is worth looking at because I'm looking
at a clip from what JB. Pritzker was talking about.

(01:15:51):
He's now saying that Donald Trump has got dementia because
that's why he wants to have troop deployment, that all
that other sort of stuff. So he's trying to be
like an insult comic. But Trump is way smarter than JB. Pritzker.

Speaker 6 (01:16:09):
JB.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
Pritzker basically inherited his money. Trump is a guy who
has built a lot of his wealth by actually creating
things like that, and I think they're just it's one
of these deals where you've got a guy in JB.
Pritzker who is trying to pull somebody off sides, right,

(01:16:29):
and he wants to try him get him off sides,
get him off sides, get him off sides. The President
United States has a bunch of people working with him.
The President United States knows exactly what's going on out there,
and it is not being run by the President of
the United States. He's got Tom Holman, he's got DHS,
he's got all of these assets that are using the

(01:16:50):
power of their institutions to make sure that things are
being handled properly. You know, this is what what we're
looking at here, and this is how the system sort
of works. When you go back and you look at this.

(01:17:10):
Here's something else though. All right, let's go back to California.
I know I don't want to take you back to California,
but I have to do this story because the story
is very important. And the story is they found the arsonist,
alleged They found the alleged arsonist who was responsible for
the fire at the Palisades in California sixty eight hundred

(01:17:36):
buildings burned in this fire. Sixty eight hundred buildings burned
in that fire. And the individual that was named today
by the ATF, they came out and they said, look,
we know that this person was responsible. He was an

(01:17:58):
Uber driver rested for maliciously igniting deadly Palisades fire. According
to the documents coming out of the federal government, an
arrest has been made in relation to the deadly Oh see,
and now I've got this thing popping up here real quick, Okay.

(01:18:19):
The suspect is twenty nine year old Jonathan render Connect.
He was arrested at his home in Melbourne, Florida, on Tuesday,
the officials said during the press conference Wednesday. He made
an initial appearance in Orlando on Wednesday. Officials accuse a

(01:18:41):
render Connect, also known as Jonathan Render of starting the
Lockman Fire just after midnight on New Year's Day that
maliciously damaged and destroyed by means of fire, specifically the
fire known as the Lockman Fire and the Palisades Fire.

(01:19:01):
A criminal complaint was obtained by Fox News. While the
Lockman Fire was quickly suppressed, officials said it continued burning
underground until winds ignited what became the Palisades fire, So
it's the same, it's the same sort of germination that

(01:19:22):
took place. So render connect was an Uber driver, and
he was described by two passengers as agitated and angry.
The knight that he was accused of starting the fire.
According to the complaint, Officials said during the presser that
he was a resident of the Palisades, was familiar with
the neighborhoods, and that he was accused of starting the fire.

(01:19:45):
He allegedly used an open flame to ignite the blaze
just after dropping off passengers in his Uber job. An
Uber spokesperson told Fox News Digital that the company has
partnered closely with the ATF to determine the driver's whereabouts
on and around January the first, and that its GPS

(01:20:09):
data placed him near the location of the start of
the Lockman fire on January the first. Render Connect's access
to the Uber platform was revoked once Uber learned of
his suspected involvement in the fire. The company said all
Uber drivers must pass a state mandated background check in

(01:20:31):
order to drive with Uber. The complaint said that render
connect said that he grew up in France and that
he played a French rap song during his rides. The
music video for the song un zetter n The by
the French artist Josman depicts fire scenes. Prosecutors also alleged

(01:20:56):
that render Connect used chat GPT to create dystopian paintings
of a city being burned on one side while hundreds
of thousands of people in poverty. You're trying to get
past a gigantic gate with a big dollar sign on it.
All right, this see this, This is new information, and

(01:21:18):
this is new information that sounds to me like Antifa
kind of stuff. To be honest with you, at a minimum,
commy stuff, but definitely leaning in on the Antifa stuff.
Render Connect is charged with destruction of property by means
of a fire, a felony that carries a mandatory five
year federal prison sentence and is punishable by up to

(01:21:41):
twenty years in a federal prison. So he's only gonna
do five to twenty young man, be out there fire
bugging it up again. I mean, it's probably what's gonna happen.
This is California. They're not gonna They're not gonna make
him do the whole time if in fact that's the
outcome the Palisades fire. By the way, he's only going

(01:22:03):
to have to serve twenty years, maybe five years. Twenty
years seems pretty fair. He only killed twelve people and
largely destroyed the Pacific Palisades and parts of Malibu. More
than sixty eight hundred buildings burned, and many are starting
to try to rebuild their lives and businesses. Very sad.

(01:22:24):
It's really terrible. Wonder if his parents what they think.
News Talk eleven to ten nine three WBT Brett Waterbule Show.
Good to be with you. Let's jump out and talk

(01:22:46):
to JD, who's been patiently holding on a JD. Welcome
to the show.

Speaker 12 (01:22:50):
Hey, Brett Warnable. I want to encourage you with all
your listeners and everybody who watched the video between Mike
Lawler and how came Jeffreyes. Mike Lawllard just destroid them.
All he could All Hakeen Jefferies could do was just
insul them about. And if I was Michael Lawler, I'd
be a little bit upset because it looked like Hackeen
Jefferies was kind of assaulting him.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
But well, here's the problem. Here's the problem with that
they're in the same They're in the same uh group, right,
because there You've got a guy from New York and
a guy from New York. One of them's from upstate
New York. So so this is going to be you
know what, what's that?

Speaker 12 (01:23:25):
You know what? Static is coming on to the hulkl's
heels right now, and I'm predicting right now. I think
I think uh, I think Hulk is going to go down,
and I think Stackic is going to be the next
New York governor.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
Oh oh so stefanics that step, Yeah, yeah, she's, she's she's.

Speaker 12 (01:23:41):
I want to sit there and side with my Michigan
Center slockin. Thank you for allowing the government to continue
and allowing people for these people for their flights to
be delayed. In all that, it's not the Republicans fault.
You guys could keep on blaming the Republicans all you want.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
Hm.

Speaker 12 (01:23:57):
They just put out sending there saying being nice and
send saying fine, will extend it a year, and yet
you won't even put it on with that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Well, why do you think that is? Why do you
think that is?

Speaker 12 (01:24:06):
Because they want they probably want to get money to
to legally to like in California.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
They want to do like that.

Speaker 12 (01:24:15):
That's probably why it just it just it really infuriates
me to see that these people think that America is
going to be falling into their trap. And they can
have all the polls out there saying the Democrats are
winning and all that. What kind of questions are these
media people, media people asking the people.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
No, they don't know, they don't want to ask anything.
They take dictation, They just get they get the talking
points every morning. I see them, and I understand it
so absolutely. I'm glad you called in today.

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
JD.

Speaker 12 (01:24:42):
Hey, I'm glad. I always talking to you with the
you ben and keep up the good word.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
Hey you too. Man Bcafe out there, that's that's great calling.
And he calls in from Michigan. That's a battle ground states,
battleground state, no doubt about it. Let's uh, oh, this
is bad news. Wait is this today? Today's the eighth right? Okay?
Kiss legend Gene Simmons, seventy six years of age hospitalized

(01:25:10):
after a scary car crash in Malibu. Gene Simmons won't
be able to rock and roll all night, at least
for a little while. The Kiss legend was reportedly hospitalized
following a car crash in Malibu. California yesterday, although Simmons,

(01:25:31):
seventy six, is now said to be recovering at home
following the scary incident. The bethrocker had either passed or
fainted out while behind the wheel of his SUV and
collided with a parked car on the Pacific Coast Highway.
That could have been devastating. He could have gone right over.

(01:25:53):
Spokesman for the Malibu Lost Hills Sheriff Station told the
Post that there was an accident matching the description of
the Kiss of the Kiss Bassist crash. However, they did
not identify the driver involved. The spokesperson added that the
incident happened at the twenty five six hundred block of

(01:26:15):
the Pacific Coast Highway shortly before one pm Tuesday, and
it involved a black Lincoln Navigator that struck a parked vehicle.
So let's hope for a speedy recovery for Gene Simmons.
Somebody equally talented is breaking. Brett Jensen, He's coming up next,

(01:26:38):
stick around and then TJ Ritchie, I'm Bret Whitterble. We'll
talk to you tomorrow. New's Talk eleven ten on nine
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