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October 8, 2025 • 9 mins

Tune in here to this Wednesday's edition of the Brett Winterble Show! 

We’re joined by Coach Matt Doherty from DohertyCoaching.com to talk about leadership, public safety, and the breakdown of law and order in American cities. Coach Doherty, a former basketball coach turned executive coach, emphasizes that safety is the foundation of a functioning society—without it, food, shelter, and prosperity mean little. In a wide-ranging conversation, he discusses the failures of leadership in places like Chicago and New York, the consequences of open-border policies, and the growing disconnect between political agendas and everyday citizens' needs. He also reflects on how social media fuels division and argues that civil, face-to-face dialogue is essential for national healing. Coach warns about the dangers of populism and blind trust in charismatic leaders promising “free stuff,” referencing failed states like Venezuela. He urges Americans to study history, demand strong leadership, and raise families rooted in Christian values and personal accountability.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is my recital. I think it's very vital on
top round. That's right on time.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's tricky, it is tricky, but it's never tricky when
coach shows up. And it's great to have you here,
Coach Dougherty, thanks so much for making time for us.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Always man my favorite day of the week.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
So let me ask you a couple of questions here.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Okay, we obviously have a disconnect that's happening with the cities,
uh not wanting to abide by immigration law. We're seeing
a lot of raucous behavior going on in places like
Chicago and and and other places as well. What what
is the breakdown here in terms of leadership and and

(00:51):
wanting to try to make America a safer country?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
What?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
What?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
What's the problem with.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
It's it's very puzzling. And I am a you know,
I'm a fundamental coach, and you know, since the first
I've been on your show, I've talked about, you know,
human beings want basic rights, right, and they want food,
They want shelter, and they want safety, and you know,

(01:20):
a lot of ways the government can provide all three,
you know, but the government and local authorities should at
least provide you know, safety first, because without safety, food
and shelter don't matter, right, And so I always go
to like the core, the most root issue, and if

(01:45):
we don't have safety, nothing else matters. And to me,
the emotion, you know, as I look at our country
and you think, you know, we've talked about socialism and
communism and all the other isms, and what the governor

(02:09):
of Illinois, Pritzker, is doing to ice officials, I think
as BONDI was accusing someone saying, you know, I wish
you loved your city as much as you hated Trump.
That they people become a rational and I get that,

(02:31):
but you know, you know, I'm driving home from Charlotte
and I drive by Davidson and I see these adults
on the overpass with flags American flags, talking about democracy
and get ridden of a dictator, and you know they're

(02:51):
anti Trump. They're left there and I'm like, like, and
this is where Charlie Kirk was great, because he wanted
to have conversations with those people. Sure, And Abraham Lincoln said,
you know, I do not like that man. I must
get to know him better. Well, here's the problem. Most
of us don't have time, and a lot of our

(03:12):
arguments take place in social media, so you know, you're
you're you're a tough guy, you know on social media,
but when you're actually in front of somebody and you
could read the two most important parts of communication, which
are body language in tone, not just content. Sure, you

(03:32):
can have more civil conversations, even though you might be
an opposite ends of the spectrum. But I think if
you say, listen, we all can agree we want safety,
right sure, you know, and try to get to the
other side of the table with that person. I think
that's what Charlie Kirk did. So well, yes, you know,
it's got to start there. And so how does how

(03:54):
does that? How does how do we manifest safety? How
do we maintain it? Well, you've got to control the pors.
You've got to invest in in law and order, and
you've got to have rules, and you can't just let
somebody get a slap on the wrist for killing somebody,

(04:15):
or somebody get out on bail after they had some felony.
And like the gentleman the person did in Charlotte who
killed the lady on the train that you know, yeah,
we can care for people and have a good heart
for people and a Christian heart, but at the expense

(04:35):
of putting other people at risk. You know, there's got
to be some middle ground that makes sense. And I
just think the logic and the reasoning is totally out
of whack because I just think that they do they
do hate Trump and some people hate our country.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Maybe they should get to know him better. I think
I think it's probably the end.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah, maybe they should get exactly good point.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
And all right, So, coach, where do people go to
get coached by you? Because I know you're somebody who
likes to get things done, working, working and and helping
people out. You've got a heart for this, You've got
great leadership skills. Where do they go so that they
can catch up with you?

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Coach? Well, thank you, And I always didn't and didn't
always have great leadership skills, and that's that's why I'm
passionate about what I do as an executive coach, because
leadership has learned behavior. And ironically, I was just on
the phone with the gentleman you know who does my website,
Sandra Walker, and just updating it to freshen it up.
And they can go to Darty Coaching dot com. That's

(05:40):
d O H. E. R t y coaching dot com
and I just want to challenge our listeners that study
history right. And I think when you look at countries
like Argentina and Venezuela and they had things going well

(06:02):
and then they didn't, you know, and it comes down
to leadership, and it comes down to trying to populism,
you know, and going with somebody that says, yeah, I'll
take care of you, I'll give you what you need.
And they live in a funnel of hope. But when

(06:22):
they get out the bottom, get out of the bottom
of the funnel, they're they're in a mess, They're in
a sewer. And you know, there's some really charismatic leaders
and people that want to go against the what's good
I think for our country, and people like Dammy who

(06:42):
scares me in New York that he actually will get
voted in as the mayor of New York. And you know,
if you just look at what's happened historically, that New
York won't survive, can't survive right now, just this economic
the numbers history, but people weren't easy and they don't

(07:06):
study history, and because it's either too hard or too
painful to work. And so I pray, Pray for our country,
Pray for New York in particular.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
You're going to see an exodus into Connecticut, Pennsylvania, and
New Jersey if this thing comes story happening.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
I mean it, you know, it's happening, and it's going
to continue to happen. But it's a shame that that's
what has to be. And you know, maybe, you know,
I heard some politicians and say this, maybe that's what
it's going to take for it to swing back. And
I just feel maybe I'm going too long here, So

(07:46):
I apologize that, you know, we should have learned something
by the past presidential administration and learned that, yeah, that's
not good for our country. Open borders, free stuff is
not good for our country, and so why would people
think it's good for New York City? And and but

(08:07):
I go back to counter to that is that the
indoctrination of young people in these you know, universities and
below is so powerful that now they become voting members
and they're like, yeah, we should get free stuff. Yeah
we should be entitled to that, right, Yeah we should
give we should take care of the all the illegal immigrants,

(08:30):
we should okay, yeah, take care of Martin, let them
move into your apartment. Oh no, no, I wouldn't want that.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Good luck, Yeah, good luckelievable.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
So I just, uh, there's going to be a hard
reality and it does come down to leadership. But you know,
somebody asked me this, what what do we need? We
need good parents with Christian values.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Oh, absolutely right, absolutely right, Coach Dougherty, where do people
go to get coached?

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, dority coaching dot com. That's d O H E
R T Y coaching dot com.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Thanks so much, sir, I appreciate it. Let's catch up
next week.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
My friend
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