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September 26, 2025 • 93 mins

Tune in here to this Friday edition of the Brett Winterble Show!

Brett kicks off the show with Pete Kaliner for this week’s Friday Hangover; they discuss the political fallout surrounding North Carolina’s newly passed “Iryna’s Law” and Attorney General Josh Stein’s evasive interview with CNN’s Dana Bash. Brett and Pete highlight Stein’s inability to take a firm stance on the bill, especially given its death penalty provision, and criticize what they see as weak Democratic messaging on crime and public safety.

We're joined by Dr. John Lott from the Crime Prevention Research Center to talk about anti-Semitism and bias in crime reporting.

a recent report from the Anti-Defamation League that claims all extremist murders from 2022 to 2024 are committed by right-wing individuals. He questions the report’s accuracy, pointing out that some attackers listed have left-wing views or don’t fit any clear political category. He highlights the Buffalo supermarket shooter, who calls himself an “eco-fascist,” and the Colorado Springs shooter, who identifies as transgender and a socialist. Despite this, the ADL labels them as right-wing. Dr. Lott argues that this is done for political reasons, not based on facts. He also explains how media outlets like CNN and NPR repeat this narrative without looking deeper.

We're also joined by Joe Gruters, newly appointed Chairman of the Republican National Committee, to discuss his plans for the party and the upcoming 2026 elections.

Chairman Gruters shares his vision for building on the momentum created under former chairman Michael Whatley, emphasizing voter registration, turnout, and election security as top priorities. He highlights the success of Florida’s Republican leadership and plans to apply that winning formula nationally. Gruters also discusses law and order, criticizing left-wing policies that he says have led to increased crime and instability, citing recent violent incidents as examples. He praises President Trump’s leadership on public safety and the economy and says strong messaging on issues like taxes, inflation, and border security will help Republicans expand their House majority and win key Senate races. Gruters also emphasizes the importance of supporting Michael Whatley’s Senate run in North Carolina, calling him “the right person at the right time.”

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Here's talk eleven ten three w b T. It is
the hang over, and I am happy to be holding
hostage of Keith Callander.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
He's going to be spending.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Time with us for as long as I say so.
And it's lay.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
It's good to be what.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
I'm sorry that slipped out. That was that was I
was thinking that, but I it came out all wrongly.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Well, I will give you the advice that my grandfather
gave me years and years and years ago.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Yes, sir, think before you speak, and then don't say it.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
I'm going to take I'm going to take the advice.
I think that's I think it's I think it's a
wonderful advice. It's great.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
He was a man of few words and little patience.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Well that's good back look back in the day. Back
in the day, you didn't have time for nonsense.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
No, you know, none of the nonsense. I need you
to do something for me, Okay, No, I.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Need yes, yes, now I'm busy that weekend. I cannot
help you out.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
No, I don't need that. I'll give you.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
I'll give you a six pack of Bush beer or something.
I don't know, but here we go. All right, I
need you you may have played this clip. If you
didn't play this clip, pretend if you did, Pretend like
you didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
I did not.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Okay, good. So last night, the guy called Josh Stein
does an interview with the reporter called Dana Bash. This this,
to me, is the encapsulation of everything that's wrong with

(01:48):
what's wrong?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Are you ready for this?

Speaker 4 (01:50):
I'm ready for it.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Cut number seven, Go for it, Isaac.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
Earlier this week in North Carolina, the state legislature passed
Arena's Law, a criminal justice package named for the Ukrainian
refugee who was murdered on Charlotte's light rail system last month.
The bill would limit bail and sure more defendants undergo
mental health evaluations, and notably, could help restart executions. The

(02:17):
bill is on your desk, Governor, will you sign it?

Speaker 6 (02:21):
Well, I'm reviewing it as we speak. It's a complicated bill.
But here's the thing. That young woman was a light.
I've met with her family. She was a special person.
She was friendly to everyone she came into contact with.
She loved animals, she loved art. She was hardworking. She

(02:42):
was really making a life here. She came three years
ago from war torn Ukraine trying to come to a
peaceful place where she could have that brighter future, and
she was really happy here. Her death is an absolute travesty, horrific.
What we need to do is make sure that response
we are going to take measures to keep our community safer.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
We need a lot more.

Speaker 6 (03:07):
Police who are well trained in our communities, proactively on
the ground, engaging with people to promote safety. We need
them on the transit system, but we also need them
throughout our communities. I have a proposal to our legislature.
It would help us to address a large number of
vacancies that exist in law enforcement, whether it's local or state.
We need to address pretrologies to make sure that people

(03:29):
who are repeat offenders and engaged in violence are held
if they pose a risk to society. And we really
need to do a lot of work on mental health
in the meantime ability to people need a place to
go when they're having a schizophrenic attack, if they are
a risk to themselves at they're risk to other people,

(03:50):
we need someplace for them to go. And one thing
this bill doesn't do is provide any funding to help
us address that issue.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
Ye, that definitely makes sense. In the meantime, you do
have this bill on your desk. If you don't sign
it or veto at either one, it would just automatically
go into law. Are you considering doing that? Or will
you either sign it or veto? Will you take your
pen out?

Speaker 2 (04:09):
No matter what?

Speaker 6 (04:12):
As I said, I'm reviewing it really as we're speaking.
It was the last meeting I had before I got
on the call with you.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
What are you even doing here?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Pete?

Speaker 4 (04:21):
What are you even doing here? Why would you agree
to this interview? What do you think they're going to
ask you? How do you not have an answer?

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Also, kudos to the North Carolina Republican Party yes for
jamming him up, because that's what we just heard.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Right, Yes, completely jammed up.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
He can't even answer if he supports Arena's law because yeah,
because what there's the death penalty component that they put
in there, So like they've got him completely frozen. Now
he doesn't know how he is supposed to. I guess respond.
I mean, maybe they're running some focus groups and that's

(05:00):
what he needs to wait on those results before he
can say whether he's going to veto it or not.
It's just the idea that he doesn't know what he's
going to do.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
I'm not buying it, and.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
He put her last like there's nothing going for her
at all, zero nothing. He was more passionate about what
is it when people have a schizophrenic attack, they need
to go someplace where? Do you recommend that? Gov? I mean, what,
what is this? Amazing?

Speaker 3 (05:30):
No, he's getting dragged nationally for this too. Scott Jennings
laid into him.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Do you see that. I sure did. Look I'm big
on Scott Jennings. Yeah, yeah, I'm a big Scott Jennings supporter. Yeah,
but this is everything that's wrong. And by the way,
you know who showed up last night over on Lawrence
on Lawrence's show on MSNBC.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Lawrence, Oh Lawrence O'Donnell?

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Is he still on the air?

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Oh, good for him?

Speaker 7 (05:59):
Right.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Cooper was on, Oh my gosh, my good friend Ray,
my good.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Friend Ray, blaming blaming guess who, let me guess who.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
He was blaming Michael Wattley for that's correct, I know,
for doing.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
The work to actually get support in the wake of Helene.
These guys, are these guys maybe having a little tipsy
during the day, blacken out?

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I mean, what is this?

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Well, I know, I think I've talked about this, and
it is a very acute problem for Democrats in North Carolina,
which is that because they have been insulated and protected
by the warm, fuzzy embrace of the North Carolina political
press Corps for you know, twenty five thirty years now,
because once the Democrats, you know, they controlled the state

(06:46):
for one hundred and fifty years and then they lost control,
and so now they're the oppressed, right, so the media
just wraps them in their arms like, oh, poor Democrats,
there for the little guy, and we want to protect
you and all this, so they never get asked any
of the hard questions. And even if they do get
a question that's a little uncomfortable, like Josh Stein justcott,
they don't have the capacity because they to answer it

(07:09):
because all they have are their slogans. And that's usually
enough when dealing with the state press corps. You just
throw out a women's right to choose or women's reproductive health,
you know, you just say these these slogans and that's enough.
And what happens is you become intellectually flabby. You are not,
that's a great point. Intellectually flabby, oh yes, yes, And

(07:31):
they are unable then to articulate an argument, whereas people
on the right who are constantly forced to respond where
media make them play this defend their disavowed game. Anytime
a Republican says or does anything right, then it's like, oh,
you got to you have to comment on this, and
you have to explain this. And so the Republicans and

(07:51):
conservatives are constantly trying to explain their ideas, their positions
on things. They get all of this this pressure and
resistance to pressure builds strength, and so that's what has
happened over time is that they have strengthened their arguments,
but the left, the Democrats have not been forced to
basically train. It's like it's like the NFL without any

(08:13):
preseason games.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Well wait a minute, I heard, I heard, I heard
the the was it the minority leader speaking all week?

Speaker 2 (08:22):
I just I don't know what we're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
There is no passion for safety and security. I want
to hear passion for safety and security. These people, they
are antiseptic. They are the people that just stand there
and go, well, yes, we unfortunately we had another incident again,
and we're just going to try to, you know, put
more money into the program. So that when you do

(08:46):
have an episode, you will have some place to go
in the episode. But what about the episode of the
person who's laying dead on the sidewalk or the street
or any other place.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
This is despicable.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Well, it's because they're out of ideas. Of course, their
ideas money were what was already tried. Right, their ideas
bubbled up to the surface after the summer of fiery
but mostly peaceful rioting, and so their stuff has been tried.
They've been doing all of their racial justice equity task

(09:17):
for stuff like Roy Cooper and Anita Earl's right, and
they're now terrified of the blowback that they're going to
get for these kinds of policies. Right, the crime issue,
Republicans are just blowing out the Democrats on the crime issue,
and Democrats are very concerned about it, to the point
where Mecklemburg County Senator Mujaba mujabah Mujahead Majaba Mohammad, he

(09:40):
tried to run an amendment to Arena's law to prevent
the use of the video in any political ads. Now,
why would you do that unless you are worried that
that's going to hurt you?

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, no, kidding.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Now, that's going to run five hundred times more often
than it ever would have. Right, that's going to be
a lot. We're looking at a lot of a lot
of the bad old days with the Dukakis campaign, and
we're looking at the revolving door. That's all they got
to do is run that side by side and we'll
see what ends up happening.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, and they already got nailed in the last legislative races.
The Republican campaigns hammered them on their cash list bail stuff,
on the defund the police stuff. So Republicans know that
this topic works for them. Democrats know it hurts them.
And now this is like, this is existential for them,
and so they're trying to formulate arguments that make it

(10:37):
seem like they're tough on crime. And that's why you
end up with the dumbassay we heard from the House
floor this week where they're like, oh, there's no correlation
between this stuff. They're trying to find any argument they
can find. We need more cops on the streets. Like,
not a cop problem. They've arrested the guy fourteen times.
It's a court problem, which the courts are controlled by
who Democrats in Mecklamburg County.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Darn Tutin.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
All right, you're free to go, Pete, You're free to go.
I really appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Hanging out on the hangover.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
I thought you're gonna much later.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Well that's okay, you gotta go head home to your
real wife.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Okay, sounds good.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Thanks, have a great weekend, you too, buddy. He was
talking about the hand down and I three w b T.
It's a Brettwinterable show.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Coming up later in the next hour, we'll be joined
by John Lott.

Speaker 7 (11:29):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
He's gonna give us a deep dive and analysis of
of the Anti Semitism Report, how that thing has come
to pass. And then we're gonna get to catch up
with UH Joe Gruders. He's the new chairman of the
Florida UH Republican Party, and it's gonna be great hearing
from him as well, because you know, they're they're absolutely

(11:52):
succeeding in so many ways down there in Florida.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
It's a very important thing to.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Celebrate that sort of stuff. But I want to go
back and revisit something I've been thinking about here. Okay,
So I want to ask you something. When was the
last time that a politician knocked on your door and said, hey, hey,
why don't I take the kids for a couple of
hours so you and your spouse can have a nice

(12:18):
quiet dinner. Never happened, right, because that's not what they do,
that's not who they are. They don't serve. By and large,
they extract Washington, DC, that marble mausoleum of ambition. It's
filled with people who have never earned a dollar outside

(12:40):
of your taxes. They don't build, they don't fix, they
don't sweat. They take. They legislate from a distance, insulated
by staffers, consultants, and cocktail parties. And the closer you
get to that city, the less they care about you.

(13:03):
You know who does care, right, People like Trump, people
like Vance, people like Elon. Say what you will. But
they're trying to break the machine, break it open. They
want things to get done. They want to tear down
the scaffolding of delay and dysfunction. Meanwhile, Schumer and Jeffreys,

(13:31):
they want the same old, same old, more committees, more commissions,
more impeachments, more, we're gonna look into it. They want
to manage your decline, not reverse your decline. It's the
difference between people who earn their own money and those

(13:51):
who take yours for services not rendered. You pay taxes,
you follow the law, if you raise your kids, you
do you do all of that, and what do you
get for that? A lecture, a regulation, a bureaucrat wreaking

(14:13):
of whiskey telling you what your values should be. Let
me tell you something. The American people are not a
client base. We're not a demographic. We are not aligne
in an item in the budget. We're the sovereign, We're

(14:37):
the source. And these career politicians, well, they've forgotten about that.
They've traded stewardship for status. They've replaced duty with deals.
They don't ask what matters to you. They don't show
up at your church, your school board, your neighborhood watch.

(14:58):
They don't ask what keeps you up at night. They
ask what keeps them in office. That's the game, that's
the rot. And every time you hear them talk about
bipartisanship or working across the aisle, just ask yourself, is
that code for doing nothing? Is that just a way

(15:21):
to get the gravy train rolling until your community falls apart.
Because here's the truth. The people who built this country
didn't do it with focus groups and polling data. They
did it with courage, with conviction, with sacrifice. And we
need that again. We need leaders who don't just campaign,

(15:44):
but they confront, who don't just promise, they produce. So
the next time a politician tells you that they care
about you, ask them when the last time was that
they showed up, Not on TV, not in a fundraiser.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
But in your life, at the door, in your town.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Because if they're not willing to come close, they're not
willing to lead, they're not worthy to lead. Washington's broken,
but America isn't. Not yet, not if we remember who
we are, and not if we demand more than slogans.
Josh Stein's evidence of that, not if we stop settling

(16:26):
for the same old, same old, like Roy Cooper, because
the future doesn't belong to the comfortable, It belongs to
the courageous. All Right, all right, the elephant in the room,

(16:50):
I'm not talking about it. I'm not talking about it yet.
I am going to talk about it now. And that is,
of course, the indictment of James Comy. This guy, this
guy is just what a sad sack. He doesn't know
when to stop. He doesn't know when to, you know,
just go about his business doing his things. See, he

(17:10):
made himself famous personally. And this is something that I
think is very interesting. Okay, because what does Comy bring
to the table. What did Comy bring to the table.
Why was he necessarily important? We're talking about nearly I
think a decade since Comy was part of the administration,

(17:32):
and then he went on this rampage just like looking
at shells and and you know, weird invectives and things
like this. I do not understand a guy like James Comy,
but I understand why he hates Donald Trump. It's because
James Comy was in the club and Donald Trump didn't

(17:53):
ask permission from James Comy to be in the club.
And you see, that's the fundamental problem that we have.
If you look at John Brennan, if you look at
Shifty Shift, if you look at a Congressman Goldman, if
you look at you know, any of these people, Pelosi,
they didn't want Donald Trump to be in the cliqu

(18:16):
They didn't want him to be in the party, at
least not the Republican Party. Had he run as a Democrat,
they would have they would have had him all about
everything all the time. But because he won in the
Republican Party, that was the reason why he had to

(18:38):
be destroyed. I know it sounds crazy. I know it
sounds crazy, but think about it. What was the very
first act for what happened at the White House? When
James Comey got involved. He went over and sent some
agents in to try to jack up the National Security Advisor.

(19:00):
Everybody knows that. Everybody remembers that. And so what did
we have, Well, let's go to the original sin, shall
we Let's go to the original sin, and let's listen
to some of the sound that has come out over
the last few weeks. And what we have when we
look at this sort of stuff, right, is why Donald

(19:23):
Trump had to be destroyed, one person at a time.
This is really what it came down to. Here here
is something that I think is really interesting. This is
cut number six and I labeled this the original admission
by Coney by Comy on due process Cut six.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
Please look at this White House now, and it's hard
to imagine two FBI agents sending up in the set room.

Speaker 8 (19:47):
How did that happen?

Speaker 9 (19:48):
I sent them something we I probably wouldn't have done
or maybe gotten away with in a more organized, investing,
more organized administration in the George W. Bush administration, for example,
or the Obama administration. The protocol two men that all
of us have perhaps increased appreciation for over the last

(20:12):
two years. And in both of those administrations, there was process.
And so if the FBI wanted to send agents into
the White House itself to interview a senior official, you
would work through the White House Council and there'd be
discussions and approvals and who would be there. And I

(20:33):
thought it's early enough, let's just send a couple of
guys over. So we placed a call to Flynn, said, Hey,
we're sending a couple guys over. I hope you'll talk
to them. He said, sure, nobody else was there. They
interviewed him in a conference room at the White House
Situation Room, and he lied to them. And that's what

(20:54):
he's now played guilty to.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
What did he think they were coming.

Speaker 9 (20:58):
Over there for. I don't think he knew. We didn't
tell him. Just so we've got a couple send it over,
a couple of agents. I want to ask you some questions.
I didn't have this conversation, my deputy director did. But
hope Uh, hope you got a few minutes you can
sit down and talk to them.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
And he said he would.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
If Komy had stopped or had sent agents to go
pull somebody over on the side of the road and
didn't advise them of their rights or any of that
sort of stuff, that that would be a big deal.
But Comy is filthy. He's among the filthiest creatures of Washington, DC.
It's well known by this guy here. Let me let

(21:41):
me just give you a little bit of evidence for you.
All right, this is going to be a cut number two.
We're gonna play this in just a second. You just
heard what he said. He we we inserted these agents
in there, and they talked to the general and the
National Security Advisor and all that sort of stuff, and
so we figured, you know what, we could just go
ahead and just run rough shot over over him and

(22:04):
all the other stuff that comes with that. Now, once
upon a time when Alvin Bragg and Letitia James and
Fannie Fanny was trying to put Donald Trump in jail,
and the guy from from Europe came in to try
to go into the under thingies that were in Milania

(22:27):
Trump's bedroom in mar A Lago, you know the pervs
that went in there and rattled through her stuff. The
reality is Jim Jim Comey's filthy. And here's a clip
right here to prove it. He's talking with somebody called
Jen Saki. Okay, and listen to how he's joking about

(22:48):
Donald Trunk being put in prison and how that would
all come to pass despite the fact that he was
not headed to prison. Cut number two.

Speaker 10 (23:00):
So a lot of people have suggested that there are
a range of factors that would make it difficult to
put a former there's not The system has not been
tested in this way. Do you agree with that that
it would be difficult or nearly impossible for the law
enforcement institutions to put him in actual jail.

Speaker 9 (23:14):
No, it would just put him in a double wide
somewhere out near the fence, out in the grass, and
he would eat there, he'd shower there, he'd exercise there,
he'd be away, as Donia Perry said, from general population.
But it's obviously doing there.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
What needs to happen is when Jim Comey is convicted.
I do think he will be convicted. When he's convicted,
he needs to be put in exactly that same set
of circumstances. He needs to be in the double wide,
eating and drinking and doing his thing and sitting out
there by the fence in solitary confinement, which is essentially

(23:49):
what he was saying about Donald Trump. That is the
exact circumstance that this person needs to experience because he thinks,
you know, he thinks, he thinks that's kind of funny.
Let me go to cut number four. This is also
an appearance on MSNBC. This is James Comey flashing back
on why Joe Biden simply had to win the election,

(24:13):
simply had to win, go for it right there?

Speaker 8 (24:17):
Are you concerned that it may get a test unlike
any other if Donald Trump is reelected. I mean, when
you think about a second Trump administration, what do you
think the implications would be for the FBI?

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (24:29):
Serious, for the Justice Department and the FBI, Because Trump
is coming for those institutions. He knows their power, and
I think he has regrets that he didn't work hard
enough to corrupt them last time. So he's coming for them,
and that's a danger for all Americans. He's going to
put people in positions in those organizations he didn't have
all stars the last time. He'll have the bottom of
the barrel this time. But people who will want to

(24:51):
do his will, and that should weary every American. This
election matters because of a reason like that, people have
to participate. I cannot sit on the sideline. I don't
care how you feel about Joe Biden. You must vote
for him because the consequences on the other side are
too severe.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Too severe.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
All right, I've got a really interesting story and I
think you'll find it interesting as well.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
And nothing to do.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
It's really nothing to do with politics at all. It's
to deal with gen Z kids, gen Z people, people
who are gen Z. I don't want to call them
all kids. They're not all kids. Gen Z is reviving
this boring job that millennials and boomers have abandoned, and

(25:45):
it's helping them land six figure careers straight out of college. Isaac,
how about that? So you got these boomers and you
got your your other ones, your gen x, gen Z's
gen X. Why are they're shutting it down? They're shutting
it down. As millions of boomer accountants gear up for retirement,

(26:08):
the industry is now facing a talent shortage crisis. While
it has been lamented as one of America's most boring
jobs and headed down a path of extinction. Gen Z
is actually realizing the six figure career opportunity, and they
are gaining experience by helping individuals file their taxes for free.

(26:35):
That's pretty cool. This is over at Yahoo Finance. America's
tax system is more complex than ever, but accountants are
in short supply. It turns out, between irs leadership, turnover,
tax policy fights, and burnout, more professionals are leaving the
industry just when the taxpayers need the most. Some three

(26:58):
hundred and forty thousand accountants have already left their calculators behind,
and they've quit in the past five years, and some
estimates suggest that seventy five percent of those remaining are
expected to retire in the next ten years. So everybody

(27:18):
always makes jokes about accounting and all that sort of stuff,
but it's hugely important, especially when you're filing your taxes,
and it's not just about giving all the money to
the federal government. It's also making sure that you get
what you're destined for. So this is one of the
things that I think is really fascinating. Gen Z is
coming to the rescue. Accounting is the science of the

(27:43):
business world, says Alana Kelly, and accounting and BioHealth major
at Oregon State University, who has helped dozens of families
file their taxes in this past season as part of
her schools volunteer tax assistance program. It's called the VITA

(28:05):
or the Yeah the VITA program. One was a goat
farmer who only had a landline and no access to
the internet. Another was a young woman who was financially
supporting her sister. Kelly was able to help them obtain
a life changing six thousand dollars back in refunds. One

(28:30):
of Kelly's peers, Tristan Classicus, a student studying accounting and finance,
helped an older woman gain access to her much needed
Social Security income that she otherwise could not figure out.
So they're actually helping people out, they're doing the hard work,
they're doing all the good stuff. Students helped low income

(28:53):
American taxpayers claim almost eleven million dollars in tax refunds
last year alone, So these folks are coming in and
doing this sort of stuff. The IRS's VITA program began
over fifty years years ago at California State University, Northridge
to aid low income underserved communities in navigating the increasingly

(29:17):
complicated tax system. In twenty twenty four alone, an army
of more than two hundred and eighty students helped over
nine thousand low income taxpayers claim nearly eleven million dollars
in tax funds and tax refunds and three point six
million in tax credits. Plus they saved them over two

(29:38):
million dollars in tax preparation fees. So this is a
great sort of thing. I look at the gen Z folks.
I have two gen Z children. We have two gen
Z children. One of them's in the workforce right now
and one of them still in college but looking towards
a career moving forward. And I always say, there is

(30:03):
such an echo. You can see the echo from the
folks who came during the Great Depression and just in
the aftermath of that, and I think there's a real
commonality between them. You see these people who are by

(30:24):
and large more frugal, more ready to get out there
and do the hard work and all this other stuff. Now, admittedly,
look it's not every single human being that's going to
be exactly like that, but I think it's a pretty
clear line between what's happening now in twenty twenty five,
and maybe going back to nineteen.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Twenty five, right or nineteen thirty five. And these are people.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Who are practical. These are many people I know. I
work with a couple of people who have a bunch
of different businesses that they're involved with. And that's the
way you that's the way you succeed, you know, get
out there and do the hard work. And now the
reality is, I have no idea what I'm doing with
my taxes. I do have an accountant, but my guy,

(31:12):
he's getting up there. Man, it's getting long in the tooth.
I may have to go find one of these young
bucks or you young folks out there to help me out.
I don't know. It's interesting. I love seeing success stories
like this. It's great.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
It means we have a.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Future for this country. All right, that hour's over. We're
going to the next one.

Speaker 11 (31:30):
Next.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
There's talk eleven ten now, and I'm pretty wbt for
at whatever will show with you a lot of stuff
happening out there that people are talking about. They're they're
wondering about, you know, what, what does this ultimately look
like here in the United States of America? How is
this going to function? What are we going to do?
All the questions are endless, aren't they? Yes they are,

(32:03):
they are absolutely But it is good to be with you.
Our telephone number seven oh four five, seven oh eleven ten.
If you want to join us on the WBT you
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it's wonderful to be out there and look at some
of the stuff that's going on. Oh this is not
so good. This is a scary kind of a story.
I don't want to cause a panic. I don't want
to scay it. No, it's not about space aliens. I'm
gonna I'm gonna let that lie for the next couple
of days. But nightmare bacteria found in South Carolina as

(32:46):
it spreads across the United States according to the CDC,
drug resistant bacteria called nightmare bacteria is spreading dramatically across
the United States, according to a new report by the
Centers for Disease Control, and it has been found in

(33:07):
patients in South Carolina. The hard to treat bacteria called
NDM cause infections such as pneumonia, bloodstream infections, urinary tract infections,
wound infections, and they can be deadly. The rise of

(33:30):
NDMS in the US is a grave danger and very worrisome,
said David Weiss and Emery University infectious diseases researcher talking
to the Associated Press. Wow it's no good. Doctor Moroya Walters,

(33:54):
one of the CDC reports authors, warned that this means
common in like urinary tract infections, could be harder to treat.
In South Carolina, as of September the twenty third, there
have been thirty three cases of NDM compared to thirty
one in all of last year. The risk of getting

(34:19):
NDM to the general public is low. Apparently the risk
is still regarded as low, but such infections are more
likely to occur in health care facilities, So there's that
part of it. But if you're in a healthcare facility,
you certainly want to be.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Aware of it.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
By region, NDM cases totaled eight in the Midlands, eight
in the Upstate, in the Low Country, and six in
the PD. In twenty twenty four, there were a total
of thirty one cases in South Carolina. So just you know,
I think you want to just be aware of this.

(35:00):
Many hospitals and clinics do not have the tools to
rapidly detect the NDM. That's that's a problem. So we
gotta we got to get on the good foot, and
we've got to get the stuff happening making sure that,
you know, people remain to be healthy. That's pretty scary stuff,
you know, this is this is what what's what's happening
over there. But at the same time, there's other stuff

(35:22):
happening not as scary. Costcos earnings beat expectations. People are
very excited about that. BMW's are recalling at least three
hundred and thirty one thousand cars after finding another flaw
in their in their cars. Uh. And of course we've
got yesterday, I gave you guys the storyline on this
Elon Musk's x AI offering roc to the federal government

(35:47):
for forty two cents per person. That's that's only though,
for the for the government entities. Okay, that's not like
something where you can say, hey, give me, give me, gimme,
gimme all that stuff, give me all that stuff that
I that I need.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
You know, That's that's what we got. And so when
when we uh, when we when.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
We sit there and we say, okay, hold on a second,
what what what do we have?

Speaker 2 (36:11):
What do we have? How's this going?

Speaker 7 (36:13):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (36:13):
We gotta we gotta check it out, right, We got
to check it out and make sure everything is totally
uh copeaseetic Uh. There's a whole battle that's going on
right now in the White House and in the Congress.
And the battle that is now underway is the notion
of sweeteners for the Obama Care project. If you go

(36:40):
back in time, when you had the president as Barack
Obama and Joe Biden as Vice president, and they pushed
and pushed and pushed until they could got until they
could get Obama Care. Right, Joe Biden, when he became president,
he was going to pour a whole bunch of money

(37:04):
into the Obamacare system. And he punched in three hundred
and fifty billion dollars three hundred and fifty billion dollars
into the Obamacare system. And this is now the problem
that we're dealing with because remember, once upon a time

(37:26):
when the Obama Biden administration was talking about how you're
gonna be able to get really great affordable healthcare, the
healthcare is going to be amazing, it's going to be wonderful.
It's gonna be the best thing that you've ever seen,
and it's not going to be very expensive. Well, as
it moved across the the years, it got to this

(37:47):
place where people who once upon a time might have
been indigent, might have been low income folks or people
just starting out with their families or those sorts of things.
That was one thing they were trying to prop them
up so that they could continue to participate in that
healthcare system. But what ended up happening now in this

(38:10):
latest period of time, and there's an article at Real
Clear Investigations, the Obamacare sweeteners that were pushed by Joe
Biden have now come back to wreak havoc. And you're
saying to yourself, well, how could that possibly wreak havoc?

Speaker 2 (38:28):
How could that possibly be.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Anything negative at all? Oh, there's plenty of ways to
find out the negativity that we're going to talk about,
and we're gonna give you a sense of that straight up.
But I can tell you this right now. It's an ugly, ugly,
big chunk of money that has to go back into
that system or not. And while we're at it. Who

(38:52):
ever thought there would be people who would enroll in
the systems and then never use the systems. Yep, that's
exactly right. You'll find out about that straight ahead. It
is the Brett Witterbowl Show, and I am Brett witter Bow.

(39:26):
It is good to be with you. Our telephone number
is always eight is seven four five, seven eleven ten.
I almost gave you my personal phone number, and I
do not need that to be going out over the air,
because you'll be ringing me and dinging.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Me all night long.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
There's a lot of stuff that we have to think
about here right because of the the Obamacare stuff that
was put in. I love Martin making a response on
this June sixth, two thousand and nine. If you like
your plan, you can keep it. If you'd like the
doctor you have, you can keep the doctor too. And
if the only change you see is falling costs from

(40:03):
our reforms, take hold Barack Obama. That is absolutely one
hundred percent correct and right on, absolutely so, so let's
take a dive into this little story. Halloween could come
early this year. The Democrats have named their price to
avoid a government shutdown come October. They want an additional

(40:27):
three hundred and fifty billion dollars for healthcare. You know
who is going to be getting the benefits of that
over the next decade. Critics say a big chunk of
that money may go to ghosts. No, no, I say
ghosts to ghosts. At issue are the generous subsidies that

(40:49):
the Biden administration.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Yankee Joe is trying to call me.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
He knows I'm on the air. That is very weird.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
At issue are the generous subsidies the Biden administration created
for the Affordable Care Act policies sweeteners, all of that
are slated to expire in December, making healthcare essentially free
for four millions of Americans. Those policies have skyrocketed enrollment

(41:26):
in Obamacare plans, but a recent study found that they
sparked a curious phenomenon. Oh I love curious phenomenons. Here
we go and estimated twelve million enrollees. So these are
people who signed up without a single claim, no doctor visit,

(41:52):
no lab test, no prescription filled. These are ghosts. These
are ghosts, twelve million of them. That's why Schumer wants
the three hundred and fifty billion dollars. Now, let me think,
I want to think about this for a second. Twelve

(42:15):
million is a very familiar number. Would you agree with
me on that? The twelve million is a very very
very special number. Remember when we were told, uh, it's
about twelve million illegals in the country right now. Yeah,

(42:38):
twelve million people came into the country illegally, and we're
going to get them regularized. We're gonna get them to
get citizenship and all that kind of stuff. So why
would we have an estimated twelve million enrollees without a
single claim, no doctor visit, lab test, or prescription filled
in twenty twenty four, The Paragon The Paragon Health Institute

(43:01):
study reports that this is triple the number of no
claim policyholders before the Biden sloshing around the money three
hundred and fifty billion dollars sweeteners that were in place.
Among those now eligible for zero premium plans with low

(43:23):
or no deductible the study found that number increased nearly sevenfold.
A whopping forty percent of enrollees in fully subsidized plans
had no claims in twenty twenty four. In twenty twenty
four alone, taxpayers sent at least thirty five billion dollars

(43:46):
to insurers for people who had paid no premiums and
never used their plan.

Speaker 12 (43:51):
This is a slush fund. This is the slushest of
the slush fund, thirty five billion dollars that they're just
going to give to the insurance companies and say, yeah, please,
please stay in the system, don't do anything. Look at
all these people that are suddenly getting coverage.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Are they using it?

Speaker 10 (44:09):
No?

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Not really, not really, not really, Although many analysts suspect
that the numbers suggest, is this possible, Isaac, you're pretty
smart guy. Is it possible that this might be widespread fraud? Yes, yes,

(44:31):
it would be widespread fraud. It would be wide spread fraud.
Democrats in the insurance industry argue that they reflect consumers
taking advantage of affordable coverage. They want the expiration of
Biden reforms to come back in. They want to try

(44:53):
to cover twenty million more Americans. They want to do
all this kind of stuff. But why, why is it?

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Why is it?

Speaker 1 (45:02):
This is shady as Democrats have made healthcare. They're lying
in the sand to avert a partial government shut down
in October. Biden era expansions of Obamacare are receiving new
attention as a symbol of both expanding healthcare access and

(45:28):
of spending run amuck, enter the doge, what about the does? Well,
we were looking at the dose stuff. And then that
was when people started rioting out in the streets. Do
you guys remember when they were rioting out in the streets.
I remember when they were rioting out in the streets.
All the moldy oldies who are out there playing this

(45:49):
land is your land, this land is my land Guthrie style. Well,
you got to make sure you understand what's going on here,
because there is a phenomenon called swollen rolls. It just
feels gross. It just feels gross to even say swollen
rolls can't come into work today.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
I got swollen rolls.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
What are swollen rolls? No, they're not something that you
would eat. They are something you would hope for with
all this money sloshing around. The Obama Care expansion at
issue came about through legislation and regulations during Biden's term
and was often cast as a response to anybody want
to guess anybody, anybody, anybody want to guess what it was?

Speaker 2 (46:33):
It was?

Speaker 1 (46:34):
We have to do it for the COVID pandemic. First,
the scope of who was eligible for subsidies was broadened,
making it available to households with incomes above four hundred
percent of the federal poverty line. Do you know how
much money that is that your family afore would be
earning that you'd be allowed to get free insurance? Do

(46:55):
you know who it was? Do you want to guess
one hundred and sixty thousand dollars for four people in
the household, one hundred and sixty thousand dollars eligible for
subsidized plans. This is where the money went. And this
is why the left is so freaked out about all
of this. This is not the way the system was

(47:16):
supposed to work, but it is working because you're able
to then take three hundred and fifty billion dollars and
send it into the system because you know full well
that they're not going to spend that money because those
people are not using the system. CMS not the schools here.

(47:37):
CMS found in July that two point eight million Americans
were potentially enrolled concurrently in Medicaid and the Children's Health
Insurance Plan the CHIP Plan in more than one state
or on one of those programs, plus the Obamacare Exchange,
resulting in inexplicable overlaps that could cost your dollars, your

(47:59):
taxpayers fourteen billion dollars a year. There you go. I
rest my case.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
It's fraud.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
It is the Brett Winterbules Show. Good to be with you.
So the fraud is a parent. The fraud is obviously
out there. We know that the fraud is happening. This
is unbelievable. And who would have trusted a guy like
Barack Obama or Joe Biden? Like either Barack Obama or
Joe Biden. I mean, it doesn't Basically, it goes either way.

(48:48):
They both made a really bad decision.

Speaker 12 (48:51):
Or maybe they didn't.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Maybe they figured this was going to be their legacy.
It's not a really great legacy. You got to tell
you that much. You know the president, former.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Pre is it?

Speaker 1 (49:01):
See it's confused because if I say the former president,
you're sitting in your car and traffic going which one, Brett,
Which one are you talking about? Well? Both of them actually,
but listen, Uh, Barack Obama went out of office in
when was that twenty seventeen? Was that twenty seventeen? It
was twenty seventeen, right, They still haven't finished his his

(49:25):
library in Chicago. When is that going to get finished?
I mean, this is this is the thing that's so weird.
There's an article out I saw it over the last
couple of hours where you find out that there's some
money going from the to the Tides organization with that

(49:46):
sort of I'm sure it's totally fine, it's totally good.
Don't worry about it, don't don't talk about it. You're
not allow to talk about it. Don't talk about it,
don't think about it. It's all that sort of stuff. But
this is, this is a lot of the stuff that's
going on here. And then Joe Biden, I mean, why
do you trust auto pen Do you trust autopen to
be in charge of your anything with your medical situation?

Speaker 2 (50:10):
I don't. I don't.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
But this is what's happened. What they're trying to do
is they're trying to collapse the system or they're they're
just trying to hold on for the end of the
Donald Trump presidency in twenty twenty eight and then enroll
everybody in the in the hemisphere around us and let
them come into the system and be part of the
healthcare system. It's one or the other. It's gotta be one.

(50:36):
Or the other. It's gotta be graft, it's got to
be all that kind of stuff that's going on.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
But I got a story.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Who wants to hear a story? This is something even
bigger f BI bombshell, Isaac, Do you know what this
story is that I'm about to share with the audience.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
I did not know what this story is.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
FBI bombshell. Two hundred and seventy four agents sent to
the Capitol for j six Many later complained they were
political pawns hidden for four years. An after action report

(51:30):
on FBI involvement in the January sixth riot by Director
Patel shows dozens of agents feared that the FBI had
become woke and liberally biased. But that's not the worst part.
They were used. These agents were used to get MAGA

(51:56):
people to go into the building to get arrested. Two
hundred and seventy four agents. The FBI secretly deployed more
than two hundred and fifty the numbers two seventy four
now plane clothed agents to the US Capitol during the
January sixth riot, an operation so disorganized that it unleashed

(52:20):
searing frustrations among many of the FBI's rank and file
that the bureau had lost its core competencies because of
wokeness and allowed its employees to become pawns in a
political war. Scores of FBI agents and personnel, many from
the bureau's premier Washington Field office, sent anonymous complaints to

(52:44):
the After Action Team, detailing how agents were sent into
unsafe scenarios without proper safety equipment or the ability to
identify themselves readily as armed officers to other agencies. Everybody
knew that that's what was going on with the former

(53:07):
director of the Department of just Us. Everybody knew what
was going on there with the fan belt inspectors. This
was all about setting people up so that they would
get prosecuted and Joe Biden would look like he was
the man.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
This is really bad.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
The FBI should make clear to its personnel in the
public that despite its obvious political bias, it ultimately still
takes the mission and priorities seriously. Well, we need to
find out who was responsible for all of this. We
need to find out who did all of this. We
have to do the due diligence that's gonna have to happen,

(53:56):
and we have to Actually, I would say, we should
give the props to those agents who were wrapped up
in all of this. But what they have to do
is they have to come out and allocute as to
what they were told to do. They're at the J
six riot, and what we need is who their superior

(54:17):
officers were, who told them to go and do it,
and those are the people that then should be splashed
across an entire billboard. This guy did it, this guy
did it, this guy did it. This because this was
this was designed to try to arrest as many people
as they possibly could. Meanwhile, Soros Foundation gave eighty million

(54:41):
dollars to groups tied to extremist violence.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Huh oh, huh oh.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
The report highlights the Sunrise Movement, which it says has
received at least two million dollars from Soros in company.
Amid Donald trump Umps officially designating Antifa a domestic terror organization,
a new report details how a prominent billionaire may be
funding millions to extremist groups engaging in violent uprising nationwide.

(55:14):
You just saw one today in Illinois. You just saw
assassinations take place in Dallas. You just saw a lot
of violence going down in this regard. A new report
from the Capital Research Centered details how billionaire George Soros
opened Society Foundations has given more than eighty million dollars

(55:35):
to groups tied to terrorism or extremist violence. This is
the reporting coming out of.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Just the News.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
The Foundation has awarded more than twenty three million dollars
to seven groups that directly assist domestic terrorism and criminality
in the US, including engaging or providing material support to violence,
property destruction, economic sabotage, harassment, among others that meet the

(56:09):
Domestic Terrorist Information definition. This is a big deal coming up.
I've got a great guest who's going to be joining us,
John Lott, on the Anti Semitism index and what has
going wrong with that stick around. I'm Brett Witterable. You're
listening to The Brett Witterble Show, and I am Brett Wittable.

(56:38):
It's a pleasure to be with you here today on
this great program, The Brett Witterbule Show. And I want
to welcome to the program somebody whose work I've admired
for a very long time, and I know he's very
much in demand, especially with the reporting that's coming out.
And this is John Lott, who joins us now today.

(56:59):
John Thank you so much, professor. It's great to have
you here on the program today.

Speaker 11 (57:03):
Well thanks for having me on. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
So we've got this Anti Semitism report that's come out.
There are a lot of questions about this, and I
wanted to get your thought on what it is that
we're seeing out here and how it is that we
have to be ready to kind of take this apart
and figure out what exactly is going on. Can you
can you give the folks the thumbnail sketch?

Speaker 11 (57:29):
Sure, well, I mean it's much more the Anti Semitism Report,
and assume you're talking about the anti defamation lead.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Yeah, anti defamation.

Speaker 11 (57:38):
Port on so called extremist murders where they claim that
in the three years from twenty twenty two through twenty
twenty four, all the extremist murders in the United States
were done by right wingers. Most of the most of

(58:00):
the cases that they include during that period of time
involved white supremacist types. But they you know, it's about
two thirds of the ones done during that time were
done by white supremacists. But they basically define anybody who
is a white supremacist as a right winner and it's

(58:22):
just bizarre. I mean, you go through the cases, you know,
like some of the vast majority of them only have
one person killed. You'll have somebody who's like an Aryan
Brotherhood person who basically is a gang member who maybe
killed a two year old girl that he was sexually assaulting,
or you know an eleven year old girl that was

(58:44):
living on the property that was sexually assaulted by another one,
or you know a gang fight between two drug gangs
where one of the gangs members is an Aryan Brotherhood person.
But you have the more prominent case is a few
of them where multiple people were killed, like the Buffalo

(59:05):
supermarket shooting in twenty twenty two. The ADL listed the
person as a right wing extremist. Ten people were killed
in that because he was racist against blacks.

Speaker 7 (59:19):
But he.

Speaker 11 (59:22):
Was racist against blacks because he was an environmentalist. He
was upset that people were having kids because he thought
that having kids damnaged the environment. I'm sure we've heard
similar comments from AOC for example. But he was particularly
upset with blacks because he thought that they were having
more kids than they should relative to everybody else. And

(59:44):
so he called himself things like an eco fascist or
a mild manner, authoritarian leftist. He hated companies because he
thought that companies were quote destroying the environment end quote.
You know, it's just bizarre that even though the guy's

(01:00:06):
himself calling himself a leftist, the ADL wants to classify
him as a right winger. You have somebody like the
gay bar shooting in Colorado Springs in twenty twenty two.
He's also classified as a right winger because he attacked
a gay bar, but they ignore the fact that he

(01:00:29):
was trans. He was an individual who called himself he
wanted to go by the pronouns they and them. He
identified himself as a socialist, So you know, I don't
know I mean and the trans person who I mean?
Because there are conflicts between gays and trans individuals. I

(01:00:50):
don't know how that automatically makes the person a right winger.
And then there are other cases that they just leave
out of their lists. So they want to claim that
there's zero murders by people on the left during those
three years.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
What's the what's the upside for them just to put
up a bunch of garbage, like what is this is it?
Is it just for the money? Is it just for
the clicks. I mean, why why would they knowingly or
purposely do this?

Speaker 11 (01:01:22):
Well, I think it's ideological. I mean, the person who
heads the Anti Defamation League worked in the Obama administration,
you know. And you can see how this has been
used on CNN and and NPR and all sorts of
other places over the last couple of weeks because they

(01:01:42):
you know, we've had Charlie Kirk's murder, you have this
attack at the ICE facilities in Dallas. You've had other attacks.
You had just a week and a half ago, you
had this attack at the ABC studios in Sacramento, California
by an obvious leftists. And so they want to go

(01:02:06):
and claim that either this is a right wing problem.
Really so CNN wants to go and deny that the
guy who did the attack on the ICE facilities was
a leftist. They just want to say, well, we don't
know what his views are, or they want to go
and say it's a problem on both sides.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Yes, so oft in the.

Speaker 11 (01:02:29):
Media will go and bring up the Minneapolis or Minnesota
state legislator who was murdered a couple months ago. But
you know, it's not like anybody was demonizing that. And
on top of that, you know, this guy who did
the killing had hundreds of No Kings flyers in his car,

(01:02:55):
which was basically for advertising for anti Trump rally. Uh,
you know, because people on the left want to claim
that Trump is trying to be king for sure, and
and that his writings was that he was doing the
murders for Governor Tim Walsh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
We appreciate this very much, the analysis that you've given us,
and I'm going to send a whole lot of people
to come and follow you and and and listen to
to the stuff that you're talking about. Thank you so much,
John Lott. It's a pleasure to be with you. I'm
Brent Witterable. You're listening to the Brett Winterable Show. There's

(01:03:41):
a there's a lot of stories moving out there, Isaac.
Do you see that story I sent you. This is
a this is a weird story we've got happening out here,
and and it is it is percolating. A retired finance
seer uh has been charged in sex trafficking and uh

(01:04:08):
it's connected to uh somebody who is very very big,
uh massively big, mister big in some cases.

Speaker 11 (01:04:19):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
So we'll we'll we'll take a look at that moving
moving forward, I'd already told you about I already told
you about the kids with the tax filings. I already
told you about the Joe Biden shutdowns and shut you know,
with the with all the stuff that people were trying
to spend their money on. But one of the things
that I think is interesting is this piece that was
put up by Byron York and he's talking about the

(01:04:44):
idea of all this violence that's taking place in cities,
I mean today, earlier this morning, this afternoon, you had
pitched battles going on just outside of Chicago, where you
had a whole bunch of people who wanted to go
in there and basically lay waste to this community because

(01:05:04):
they're angry about illegal immigrants being deported. So this piece
that is out of the Washington Examiner is with the
writing of Byron Yorke, the violent resistance to enforcing immigration law.
One troubling subset of the political violence coming from the

(01:05:25):
left these days is the violence directed at federal immigration
enforcement officers. There is always a group of people that's
going to be targeted, but this group of people right
understands what is happening here. What people do not understand
is you have customs and border enforcement, right, that's one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Of the things that is utilized.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
You have customs and border enforcement. Under the umbrella of that,
you have obviously the ice officers who have been targeted,
who have been targeted by politicians, who have been targeted
by murderers, who have been targeted in a variety of
different ways. And the dirty little secret is that I

(01:06:09):
think it's thirty six percent right around that number. Thirty
six percent are actually first generation Americans who are helping
to secure the border. These are people who are spending
their time, their opportunity, their intelligence, their community sort of things,

(01:06:34):
and they are getting blowback, in some cases being murdered
by people who don't want to see the border secured.
They might be called the armed extremist wing of sanctuary Democrats,
who in big cities across the country have put in
place measures designed to frustrate the enforcement of federal immigration law.

(01:06:57):
These sanctuary laws are the base of the legal battles
as the Trump administration pushes to enforce the law against
migrants in the United States. What did Christynome come out
and say early on during the deportations, Does anybody remember
what that was? She said, if you go back to

(01:07:21):
your country, we will remunerate you, will pay you money
to go back to your country, and you will not
be on the cannot come to the US list ever again.
So you had an opportunity to leave, You had an
opportunity to go back to your home country, and you
had an opportunity to take money with you. And once

(01:07:43):
we figured out what the system was going to look like,
you'd be able to come back to the United States.
No harm, no foul, That's all she said for about
I don't know two three four weeks that were PSA's
running in the aftermath of that. But these folks are
doing something that is just beyond the pail. We saw

(01:08:07):
what happened in Dallas. They fired a number of rifle
rounds from rooftops into an ice facility. The killer, the murderer,
firing indiscriminately at.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
The ice building.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
As described by an ICE press release, several rounds hit
the structure. Others hit a van that was used to
move detainees. Now stop for a second, what if those
ricochets had hit an innocent person, just a person walking
down the street, a person who was waiting for a bus,

(01:08:42):
a person who was doing something like that and they
took that person's life, would that make it better? See,
these folks do not understand that there are laws in
place in the United States and you're supposed to follow
the laws. But in the moment after the attack, there

(01:09:05):
was some confusion about the motive, and later in Wednesday,
FBI officials put out a photo of some unused shells.
One of them had written on it anti Ice. On Thursday,
FBI Director Cash Ptel released several other pieces of evidence

(01:09:26):
that pointed to the fact that this killer was very
specifically attacking Ice. The PURP downloaded a document titled Dallas
County Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Management, containing a
list of DHS facilities. He conducted multiple searches of ballistics

(01:09:52):
and the Charlie Kirkshot video between nine twenty three and
nine twenty four. Between eight nineteen and eight twenty four,
he searched apps that tracked the presence of ICE agents.
One of the handwritten notes recovered read quote, hopefully this
will give ICE agents real terror to think. Is there

(01:10:15):
a sniper with armor piercing rounds on that roof? Further
accumulated evidence at this point indicates a high degree of
pre attack planning. So this isn't just an attack. What
this is is this is a terrorist attack. This is
in the spirit of Osama bin laden isis you name it.

(01:10:41):
And in the end he ended up murdering a person
that he was supposedly protecting. I have a number of
thoughts and ideas going through my head, but that's where
they'll stay.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
All right, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
I have to break my word. I gotta break my word, Lonnie,
I gotta break my word in this regard. I don't know,
as I feel really bad. I said I wasn't going
to talk about three Eye Atlas, you know, the space
the space comet that's coming at us. I have to, though,
I have to. This story demands that I talk about

(01:11:37):
three Eye at Lias.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
We gotta tell the people.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Oh man, I don't know. I don't know if the
people can handle this.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
So let me just warn you you might get a
little emotional about this interstellar comet three I at Liss
is about to be hit by a coronal mass ejection.
What will happen next? I don't even know what I'm saying, Lonnie,

(01:12:04):
I don't even know what I'm talking about. Welcome to
the neighborhood. Three I atlas. Try this coronal mass ejection
on for size. In spectacularly good timing a coronal mass ejection.
The cme from the Sun is about to collide with
an object which came from outside of the Solar System.

(01:12:27):
On July first, twenty twenty five, the astronomers spotted the
object moving through the Solar System nearly twice the velocity
of a previous interstellar visitor. That one was called oom muah,
and Comet Borisov was the other one. The object which

(01:12:48):
was confirmed to be an interstellar comet with its own
dusty coma and suspected to be far larger than the
previous two, with an estimated nucleus that's the rocky part
of the comet excluding its coma of three and a
half miles across. That was when I said yesterday, three

(01:13:11):
thirty three billion tons.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
That's how big this is.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
So now it's gonna be unimpeded, and you're gonna have
a coronal one of them coronal you know, setups going
on here, and we're gonna get to see what happens. Now,
what if this thing gets like knocks it off of
its you know, the trajectory or something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
Who knows.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
But this is just something that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
Woo we big, big, big big. So I had to
talk about that because that thing came across the transom
and I am trying to be the guy who is
able to best break it down for the peeps who are,
you know, wanting that kind of information. Yesterday I talked
about the closing of Starbucks. There's a whole bunch of

(01:14:03):
Starbucks that are closing. I think it's like four hundred
that are being riffed. They call it riffing. They are
not happy with the way the setup is happening over there.
Closing roughly four hundred stores is like a rounding error
for a coffee giant which has more than thirty two
thousand locations worldwide. But it's the reason why they're closing it.

(01:14:28):
That's what I said yesterday. I stand by that Starbucks
closures were driven by consumers who moved away from urban
centers during the COVID nineteen pandemic. That was according to
one of the analysts who was looking at that. But
the people who were still in those areas might want
it to be served and it's just not going to

(01:14:50):
be in the cards. That's one of the problems. Consumers
balked at the chain's prices. They've actually gone way too
high in pricing. I usually maybe three times four times
a year max, I'll I'll.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Get a Starbucks, and it'll almost.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Always be if I'm traveling, I don't go to the
Starbucks like on a consistent basis. I'll get one maybe
in the airport and pay, you know, fourteen dollars for
the for a little cup of coffee.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
But I know it's not fourteen dollars. I'm kidding.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
But the thing is, with all the stuff that that's
going on around here, things are starting to change, things
are starting to move around. In fact, they did a
recent UBS study of sixteen hundred consumers over at Starbucks,
and they are struggling the most with people who make
under one hundred thousand dollars. Again, if I'm in the airport,

(01:15:47):
if I'm really jones in for coffee, I will go
do it. I will go get it, I will go
pay for it. But it's not something I don't I'm
not a Starbucks guy, to be honest with you. I
have a you know, a coffee pot, and I make
my own coffee and I drink my own coffee and
sometimes I put it in a thermos and I bring
it to work because I'm just frugal like that. No,

(01:16:09):
it's not the same coffee from the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
I make fresh coffee when I go into the studio.
I don't want to be. I don't want to be,
you know, a terrible person like that. I mean, I
want to have nice, fresh coffee.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
But you know, this is this is this is the
kind of thing that's happening And you know who's getting
hammered the worst. Starbucks shutting down at least a dozen
stores in San Francisco. How low can it go? It's
going pretty low. It's pretty rough set up here that

(01:16:42):
we've got going on. But there are places in this
country that are still growing, seriously growing, like really growing.
And one of those places is the state of Florida.
And coming up here in just a couple of minutes,
we're going to be by Joe Gruters, who's gonna be

(01:17:04):
uh checking in with us now.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
He is uh.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
He was a Florida state senator. He was elected on
Friday to serve as the Republican Party's new chairman.

Speaker 5 (01:17:14):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
And we're gonna talk to him. We're gonna get a
sense of him and what it is that that is
happening inside Florida. Because there are tons and tons of
people that are moving into Florida. I would be surprised
if they're not opening up a whole lot of Starbucks
there right where people can can get in and get there,
get their get their coffee. I love Cuban coffee. Cuban

(01:17:35):
coffee is like one of the greatest treats of all time.
Uh I just I think it's absolutely fantastic, and it's
one of the things that's a guilty pleasure for me personally.
But I can't wait to have this conversation because I
was watching earlier today the the lap being taken around
by by Ron DeSantis, the governor of the state, and

(01:17:58):
they're they're they're talking about, you know, getting ready for
hurricanes and all that sort of stuff, because you've got
a whole bunch of people now who have moved into
that community. And they I was talking to somebody a
couple of days ago, They're saying, listen, these are not
people that are bringing their Blue state values. What they're
good doing is they're coming in there because they want
to be with the red state values and see how

(01:18:20):
effective that's going to be moving forward. So we're going
to get a we're gonna get a break in here
real quick. Joe Gruder's is going to be joining us.
He's the new chairman of the Republican Party in in Florida,
and we'll catch up with him next. My name is
Brett Witterbule. You're listening to the Brett Witterbule Show News

(01:18:51):
Talk eleven ten, nine nine to three WBT. It's the
Brett Witterabule Show. It is great to be with you,
and it is awesome to welcome to the program. And
I'm looking forward to hearing about all the big plans
that are happening. And it is the brand new sworn
in chairman of the Republican Party in Florida and it's

(01:19:14):
Joe Gruterers. Welcome to the show. Thanks for reaching out
to Charlotte.

Speaker 7 (01:19:17):
My friend, Hey Brat, thanks so much for having me on.
Really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Look, you guys are on fire down there. I mean
absolutely on fire. The economy is humming, everything is going
in the right direction. So how do you keep this
thing going? As as you take the helm here, we
certainly understand that the dangers of blue state sort of thinking,

(01:19:43):
what do you got planned there in the state of Florida.

Speaker 7 (01:19:48):
Well, let me first say that Chairman Watty, who is
now running for US and your state, left the party
in phenomenal shape. He was a workhorse as a chairman,
did an absolutely incredible job leaving us with a ton
of resources. And that's what you need. You need to
have resources and the ability to communicate. And how we

(01:20:09):
did it in Florida is And just so lets you know,
I was a chairman for twenty two years. I was
basically in the minor leagues, got called up to the
big leagues when the Wattley decided to run for the
US Senate, and we were successful by focusing on the fundamentals.
That's what the party should do. And what I mean
by that is resting to vote, regstering people to vote,

(01:20:29):
turning those voters out, and protecting the vote once they
do vote, and of course supporting the president's policies. And
I think to president with what he's been able to
do in the first two hundred and fifty days of
his administration, all we have to do is effectively communicate
that and I think we could ride on his back
all the way to the midterms and buck the trends

(01:20:49):
of these off cifle elections for the incumbent party and
be successful. You know, my number one priority is to
make sure that Michael Wattley becomes next to us center
of North Carolina. Think that there's nobody better for that job.
And I think that just uh, he's just and I
was able to get to know him, just such an
incredible human being. He is going to do amazing things

(01:21:12):
for now only North Carolina about the entire country.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Look, we understand the economy is foremost. It's important. It's
it's gotta you know, be be humming and working well.
The tariffs have been effective and in a number of
different ways. But what is happening with these democrats, these
radicals who are coming out. We've seen violence, the loss

(01:21:35):
of Charlie Kirk. We've seen attacks on ice facilities. I
know that coming out of Florida. You know that's that
is a that is a law and order state, and
that and that is a high priority. How do we
get the American people to to get together and and
and just condemn all of this horrible violence that's happening

(01:21:55):
as it relates to the border and beyond.

Speaker 7 (01:21:58):
Well, certainly Charlie was a fearless Leader's impact on the
conservative movement of Republican Party will be felt for generations
to come. I mean, it's a devastating for the party
what they did. But listen, what happened is when you
have these Democrats and you want to fund the place,
all these actions have consequences. I mean, just look what
happened in North Carolina on the light rail. It's a

(01:22:21):
cash list fail. The policies that reward criminals instead of
law and order will have consequences at the end of
the day. And that's where the President stepping up. Even
before both of those things happened, the President going into
DC and saying, listen, people should be safe no matter

(01:22:42):
what community they live in around the country, if they
want to walk or if they want to live in America.
And it's and I think the Republicans have a twenty
four point advantage on law and order issues right now
and crime, but listen, it's basic common sense. People want
to live in safe communities. I don't care are where
you live. When you walk outside, you want to feel safe.

(01:23:05):
And it's it's crazy to me that we've been drifting
so far to the left that we've been letting these
criminals off. And then thank goodness that President Trump has
been the leader on this issue and is absolutely crushing it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
Visiting with a chairman Gruters, who is the RNC chairman,
getting ready to get into this fight over at the
at the twenty twenty six battle. One thing that's very
interesting to me is to see the numbers as they
are right now. And obviously it's always a shot in
time right where we're going to see what these numbers
look like. But man, the American people are on board

(01:23:41):
on the economy, on safety, security, the border, all of
that sort of stuff. How do you keep that momentum moving,
especially when we're seeing people like Hakim Jefferies, Congressman Jefferies,
and Senator Schumer trying to lobby for a shutdown. To me,
I think that is that is just lunacy. Your thoughts

(01:24:01):
on that, chairman.

Speaker 7 (01:24:03):
Yeah, listen, the idea of a shutdown after Chuck Schumer
has been preaching never, you know, don't shut down the government,
and you know this is him cashing in the chips
for political points to the radical left at the expense
of average everyday Americans. That's who it's going to hit,
the most retiree, seniors, veterans. It's a and I think

(01:24:24):
the President's right, an administration is right to come out
and say listen. It gives us a further opportunity to
trim down the federal workforce, and I hope that they
do if they get to that. But ultimately the fact
that these guys are willing to shut down the government
for political game, you got to remember what this is
all about. This is about healthcare for illegals, It's about

(01:24:46):
making sure the border is open. These guys are not
out there trying to help every day average Americans. Where
if you look at the presidents first two hundred and
fifty days, him going to bat for the average American worker,
the average American business, America, overall, peace through strength, these
peace deals. He's been firing on all cylinders. And these

(01:25:06):
guys want to cut the momentum by shutting down the government.
But I have full faith and confidence in the President
United States Sylent J. Trump, no matter what happens, that
to move us forward in a positive way. But the
Democrats continuation of their their games is only going to
hurt the average American worker out there.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Uh yeah, and look that that that's exactly important. People.
People are always going to vote if they feel like
that the economy is going well, they're going to want
to push for that because we saw after the terrible
economy under under Joe Biden and Vice President Harrah Harris,

(01:25:46):
I mean thinking about thinking about her coming back into
this fray, I almost feel badly for the for the
Democratic Party because clearly she's not ready for prime time
and we do have a very strong people. One of
the things I was going to ask you about was
how do we expand the folks there in the House,

(01:26:07):
because obviously you've got we've got a number that we've got,
and certainly the Speaker of the House does magic with it.
But we've got to see how we're going to expand
beyond this, because this is going to be pitched a
pitched battle in many ways rhetorically speaking.

Speaker 7 (01:26:25):
Listen, I'm surprised the Vice President was able to put
anything out other than the coloring book. The fact that
she made the parents and put out this book, it's
to me, it's I'm all for her taking the flag
of the Democrat Party because like, just like what we
saw in her campaign. It's a complete failure, and we'll
just continue to dominate and pick up seats. Listen, the

(01:26:46):
party that's in power is two and thirty nine in
off cycle elections. Although we're heading we have major headwinds.
I think we have a massive tail wind with the
President and his policies, I think that's how we pick
up seats. I think we need the right candidates and
the right seats, just like Wattley's the right candidate for
that USN seat in North Carolina, and I think that

(01:27:08):
everything else will take care of themselves. There's thirteen congressional
districts that President Trump won that Democrats currently hold. That
we have a couple of great Senate pickup opportunities. And
you know, we got some new new coming back in
New Hampshire, Georgia is a great opportunity. Michigan, we have
Rogers that was just fourteen hundred fifteen thousand votes behind

(01:27:28):
last time running strong. But I think the House in
particular is going to be better for us because of
the job that the President's done. As long as we
can communicate the message that every single Democrat voted to
raise your taxes, and if we can re emphasize the
fact that President Trump and Congress has passed no tax

(01:27:50):
on tips, no tax on overtime, produce taxes on retire
resource and security, increase child tax credit, in policies that
are helping the average every day American. I think we
went big and what you have to the results are
over the last four years four point six vote million
voter registrations to the Republican side as an advantage. That's

(01:28:14):
because of the President's policies. That's why we got to
ride his back all the way to victory.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
He is a Joe Gruders. He is the RNC chairman,
the sixty seventh chairman of the RNC. Where do people
go to get more information, get closer to the mission
that you're looking for?

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
Where where do they go?

Speaker 7 (01:28:34):
Listen? Just go to gop dot com. The North Carolina
has a great Republican party there. Like I said, that's
going to be one of the battlegrounds, and so I
encourage you to go to NCGP dot com and listen.
We are going to do everything we can to make
sure Michael Wattley, who like I said previously, is the
workforce of the party, left the party in absolutely great shape,

(01:28:55):
is going to be successful in his effort against your
former governor, who is supporting some of these anti lawn
order type policies that led the disaster we saw on
the lightwhere in north North Carolina. But listen, we're gonna
be running strong. And I appreciate you having me on today.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
Oh it's my pleasure. Let's definitely stay in touch and
I appreciate you reach it out being here on the
show today, especially with all the stuff that's going on.
And thanks so much. We really appreciate it and look
forward to catching up with you again, sir.

Speaker 7 (01:29:25):
Awesome, Brett, thanks so much.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
Hey, you got it absolutely. My name is Brett Winterbole.
I do Talk radio seven O four five seven zero

(01:29:48):
eleven ten. All right, so let me let me look
at a couple other things that are happening out there.
And there's there's there's like no shortage of things that
we can talk about. Isaac gets very excited when I
talk about space stuff. He gets he gets really uh,
going to a parent, What.

Speaker 7 (01:30:09):
Did you say?

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
Not true? A mysterious cosmic explosion can't be explained, say
some science scientists. Yes, yes, yes, it's unbelievable. Scientists have
also uncovered a rare repeating gamma ray burst that's beyond

(01:30:30):
our galaxy. See, everybody gets nervous when this happens. This
stuff's been happening for billions of years. We just never
noticed it. We just have the ability to hear it now,
you know. It's it's one of the things that you
could do right. And so there's people they freak out. Look,

(01:30:50):
whatever's gonna happen, is gonna happen. There's nothing you can
do about it. You just have to kind of roll
with with with this, with the stuff. Now, I could
go to other stuff, go to health stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
I can you know.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
You know, she was the world's oldest person living to
one hundred and seventeen years of age. And now they're
studying this lady's jeans, not like the pants, the genes,
like the actual the inside genes, you know, like where
you're they're studying that. Now, there's a whole lot of stuff.
We get the benefit in this day and age to

(01:31:26):
choose sort of like what we want to know about,
what we think is important, how stuff works. Once upon
a time that didn't exist. And yes, of course, at
some point people will look back in this period of
time and say, wait, a minute. I don't know, I
don't know what's going to come next. Think about this

(01:31:49):
for a second, and it's something you should ponder over
the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
And I'm serious about this.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
So we're right within months of our two hundred and
fiftieth anniversary as a country, right two hundred and fifty years.
Do you think we'll get to another two hundred and
fifty years? Do you think America will endure when we

(01:32:16):
get to five hundred years? And I know none of
us is going to be probably around for that, But
just in terms of the way the country is operating now,
do you think this country has the strength to remain free,
to remain prosperous. Do you think will be conquered? Do

(01:32:40):
you think that we've seen the best that's possible and
it can't possibly get any better. See, these are the
things we should think about. These are the things that
we should think about, especially going into twenty twenty six,
because once upon a time, two hundred and fifty years ago,

(01:33:01):
we weren't really what we are now. And I believe
that what comes next will be even better and bigger.
Thanks to Isaac and Lannie and Mike Noan and Anna Erickson,
enjoy the weekend, ladies and gentlemen. We'll get together again tomorrow,
starting on Monday. News Talk eleven, ten nin nineteen.

Speaker 5 (01:33:22):
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