Crime in Charlotte, The State of the Nation, and Driver Christopher Bell on This Weekend's Race

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
And I want to welcome you to the program. I
am Bret Witterball, and I am holding hostage virtually with
Pete Callender.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
I'm forcing him to stay extra time.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
I mean, basically, your your weekend has already begun, and
I'm already It's like I'm annexing you in some ways.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
I feel like a continuing resolution.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Is that what this is?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I'm being held hostage.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Okay, this is great.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'm going to go through some sound because I feel
like you need some of this sound. You may not
have played it or heard it, didn't know anything about it.
That's okay, It's gonna be fun, I promised. So apparently
people are not supposed to mention the word sombrero. Ever,
apparently because of the CNN P they're very upset about

(01:02):
the discussion of the sombrero and all all of that
sort of stuff that comes to, you know, fruition here
with this, with this shutdown, the Democrat shutdown. By the way,
I sent a message to somebody at the White House
earlier today and their message back is sorry, we're not

(01:22):
able to work with you due to the Democrat shutdown.
Nice and and so Jamie Raskin has now come out
Pete and said that he is going to file a
Hatch Act violation.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Because they use the word democrat shutdown.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
So would this be the first application like in reality
of the Hatch Act.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
No, they did it. They did it back in the day.
They did it.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
I'm trying to remember what day. No, no, no, no no,
Because the Hatch Act thing was was fairly modern.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I want to say it was a game about in
like the thirties or the forties.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
I was one hundred years ago, okay, but right, it's
not two hundred years ago. Oh, Like I was that
far off one hundred years ago, That's what I mean. Like,
this is one of those things that I would hear about.
I remember the first time, like you hear about this stuff,
it's like the Logan Act.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
You know which, and you're like what is that what?

Speaker 3 (02:18):
And like we were totally going to do this thing
and we're gonna apply this Hatch Act against your button. It's
like wait when okay, well I was unaware of this
thing and then you started looking at it's like, wait,
this isn't it.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
We've never used this. They used to have, but they
used to have much cooler.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Things that they would fight about if you think about it, Okay,
like for example, bloody Kansas. Right, we're trying to figure
out how are we gonna have who's going to be
allowed to be in Kansas at a particular place, or
or you might have you might have fifty four to
forty or fight, you know all that kind of stuff
where we're trying to get our territory. We don't have
any of that anymore. We have whiny people.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yea sombrero.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, we get fights over sombreros because, as the philosopher
Brett Winterble has said, we are not a serious country.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
We are an unseerious nation. Very in big areas. So
there are a lot of areas. There are also other
really great areas too, So listen to this.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
This is a.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Conversation on CNN, and boy, you're gonna you're gonna just
jump right out of your chair, all right, cut eighteen please,
Isaac on sombreros.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
The thing, the flip side of that is that the racism,
the sort of privilege that comes with mocking an entire
group of people, right, putting a sombrero on somebody, which
traditionally has sometimes been used as a stereotype for Latinos.
If you do that, it also reveals the privilege that

(03:38):
you are sort of sitting in as you do that.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
What Look, you're privileged if you have a sombrero.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well, it's what I get from.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
That, I think. I think what she is drawing upon
is the very well documented and rich history of Europeans
creating the sombrero and then forcing all Latinos to to
wear the sombreros throughout all of the Central and South America.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
By the way, I want to compliment you because you
had a beautiful pronunciation.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Thank you of the sombrero.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yes, I learned very well. I remember this was a
thing late nineties when we started, when when the newscasters
had to start using the correct yeah, the correct accent
and dialect. And so I believe the news, the news Agency,
Saturday Night Live, I believe did a whole Yeah, they
did a whole thing about it, like a training video

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for us.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Okay, okay, all right, so you won that round? Got
I got another one? Za azza. Here we go.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Can I say that?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Is that? Yes? That appropriation? Well, see, that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Though Trump didn't even appropriate the sombrero. He just put
it on somebody else.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
But hold on of it. Are we allowed to appropriate
at this point?

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Is the government still shut down because of the Democrats?
This is what we circle a life man.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
No appropriations during the shutdowns.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
You may not you may not look at that monument,
but not look at the at the Washington Monument.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
We may not also have the enforcement mechanisms in place
to to punish or prevent appropriations.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
That's very well.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Mostly it happens overseas and sometimes on aircraft. Joy Bahar, No, No,
this is you're gonna kind of like this one. I
know it's you've probably never heard that before, but you're
going to kind of like this.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
This is Joy Bahar.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
I need you to help her out. Cut twenty eight.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
Please, if you guys think, if you guys think that
we can survive another three and a half years of this,
I think you're delusional. Every day there's some nihilistic.

Speaker 6 (05:49):
Day, Joy, Can we not start there?

Speaker 5 (05:51):
And I hate to be Debbie Downer, but you're every
day this guy has survived. It's undoing something in this
country that we value.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Every day.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
It's every day is a shock and awe here, and I,
for one, am skeptical that we will survive this.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
I am not. I do believe seen worse.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
No, No, I have not.

Speaker 7 (06:13):
No.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
I I grew up in the during World War Two.

Speaker 6 (06:16):
It's whoopee that says she's seen worse.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
Every Cuban missile, every president, every and and the and
they were all dealt with by presidents who were not,
you know, in in the in the business of destroying
the country and destroying the constitution. I mean, we always
had presidents who followed the law, including Nixon. As bad
as he was, he followed he had respect for the
constitution and he didn't go after the military and call

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them names. I've never heard of such a thing in
this country.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
We'll be right back. How about that, Pete. Yeah, he
broke her. He broke her.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
He has broken a lot of people. Do you remember
the Iraq War. Sure, they were saying all of the
same stuff about George W.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Bush Yep.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
The argument has their accusations have not changed. What is
this the target has that's it? Yeah it All they
have is catastrophism. It's all they've got.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
That is great. That's a great phrase. It is.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
It's not mine. Somebody else invented the word, but I
am using it. I am appropriating it. During the shutdown
and like that is that is the standard operating procedure
for the left with any Republican. I now see they're like,
I see Democrats on social media that are now praising
John McCain. Right, they're like, oh, back when John McCain

(07:39):
was running and Republicans had, you know, dignity and respect
and all this other stuff, and it's like, you guys,
you savage John.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
McCain, oh, terribly right.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
And then Trump came along and made the comment about
I like people who don't get captured, and then it
was like, we love McCain now like everybody, and whoever
comes after or Trump, whoever it is, whether it's jd
Vance or Ron DeSantis or Marco Ruby, whoever it may be, right,
they're gonna be worse than Orange Hitler.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Very true, that's what they're gonna say.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna shut this down with with
with a final clip, okay, and here this is this
is something comes from the world of sports.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Okay, it comes from world the world of sports. Okay.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
And I think if Caroline Levitt isn't rubbing off on people,
this guy, this guy's I think he's listening to a
lot of the sort of back and forth in the
world of politics. Though he is and it is Manny Machado,
Manny Machado. He would be a great person to replace

(08:48):
the lovely Caroline Levitt. And this is this is cut
number twenty four. After the game last night, go.

Speaker 6 (08:57):
I know it just ended, but how do you assess
the season like that?

Speaker 8 (09:02):
I mean, I mean a type of question?

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Is that? Dude?

Speaker 8 (09:04):
My guy?

Speaker 9 (09:05):
How do I assess the season?

Speaker 2 (09:07):
We just lost?

Speaker 9 (09:08):
How do you think I assessed the seat? How do
you think I assess it? Asking you tell me whether
what's a loss we lost? How do you assess it
it's a loss you're lost? Come on, dude, I mean
you could ask better questions than that.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yes, yes you can.

Speaker 10 (09:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
So all right, I gotta say this this and look,
I I mean no harm to all of these sports
ball reporters that are out there, but sports oh look,
and I used to Look, I've worked for the Charlotte
Hornets first season. I enjoy watching sports as well. However,
sports reporters ask the stupidest questions. If they are even

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a question at all, Usually it's a statement where they
say it's a demand. It's like talk a little bit
about filling the blank. And let's be let's be fair.
Whoever you're asking the question of, they were going to
give you the same answer that you got from every
other person that you asked the question of. The coach
is always going to say, we really need to work
on this, we really need to pay attention to that.

(10:08):
I like the way we did this. It's all the
same answer, and they act like they're doing like Pulitzer
prize winning work on these stories or these interviews, and
it's just ridiculous and good for that guy, Manny for
just like just eviscerating that reporter because it was a
stupid question. Just come up with a better question to
ask the guy, like, hey, I'm sorry you lost, Like

(10:28):
what's going through your mind right now?

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Like it was kind of trumpy, it was kind of
a chimpy answer.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, I mean he's obviously dejected. He'd spent the whole season,
one hundred and sixty something games to lose. You know,
it sucks, Like that's what. Yeah, it's terrible.

Speaker 8 (10:44):
What do you think he's gonna say?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
All right, I think it's great. I think it's great.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
And you want to know something, you know what Pete
you did a great job today.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Thank you, Brett.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Ye're very welcome.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Hey listen, go go go get your weekend.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
One.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, I'm gonna go shut down my week, my work
week because of the Democratic down, Schumer shutdown, the Schumer.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Shutdown, Pete calendar. Enjoy the weekend, you tuck eleven day
night I three WP. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
We get some really great messages. I got a great
one here.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
This person just said, I want to apologize to everybody
for my last birthday party. We went to a Mexican
restaurant and they sang happy birthday to me and they
made me wear a sombrero. I did not mean to
act privileged. Well that you know what it's things can happen.
Things can happen, especially in a shutdown. Do you want
to know what the most I bet Isaac does not
know what the most infamous event that ever happened during

(12:06):
a government shutdown? Do you have any idea what that is?

Speaker 7 (12:09):
Do you?

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I'm with Lannie here as well. Do you guys have any.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Guess as to what was the most infamous thing that
happened during a shutdown?

Speaker 2 (12:20):
All right, I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
I'm gonna I'm gonna handle it to you right now,
you're ready, Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky. That happened during a shutdown.
That whole thing happened during a shutdown.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Brett Jensen remembers this. I know he remembers that back
in the day.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Brett Jensen, thanks for coming by on the program with us.

Speaker 11 (12:42):
Absolutely my pleasure.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
So you you broke a big story today about the
the FOP and the need for people to be safe
and secure. Talked about talk about this with the audience.
What it was that that you you broke earlier today.

Speaker 11 (13:01):
So there's a couple of different things to this, and
a lot of people in media are misconstruing what the
FOP actually wants. So I broke the story earlier. This
Morning's my factory is like at six o'clock this morning
that the FOP is formally requesting in a letter to

(13:21):
Donald Trump give Governor Josh Stein and Mayor by Lyles
requesting the assistance and help of the National Guard. Well,
people just automatically assume because they haven't been reading the
letter in its entirety, So they just said, oh, it's crime,
it's crime. They want help because of crime, because you know,
We've only had like seven murders in the last week

(13:41):
and a half, so you know there's that, but in reality,
it's not about the crime. They're saying, yes, there is
rising crime, but we can't handle it because we are
several hundred officers short of where we should be, and
we're asking the National Guard for help for assistance so

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our officers can do other things. So they're they're they're
basically saying, we need bodies to help us because calls
to excuse me, arrests are up, and you've got officer
interactions are up, and calls to officers are up, but
yet the numbers of actual officers are down, so they're
actually having to do more and more and more, and

(14:23):
they're just stressed and they're at their wits end. So
they're asking the National Guard for help for bodies, not
to necessarily keep Charlotte safe, which yes, that would be
a byproduct of it. Sure, and the violent crime and
Uptown is up over one hundred percent from the previous year,
right wow, so which means more than double in terms

(14:43):
of violent crimes. So you know, Uptown right now is
a war zone, I mean comparatively speaking to what Charlotte
standards are and it's not Memphis and it's not Baltimore,
but it's never been worse for Charlotte uptown, and so
that's what they were asking for. Yet everyone's all the
National Guard and police patrol or military patrol and you know,

(15:06):
you know, look, Charlotte City council Member Malcolm Graham told
me today, he said, you know, basically, it's just politicizing things,
and they always go after blue cities and urban areas.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Oh, come and you'll.

Speaker 11 (15:17):
Hear the interview with me tonight. I immediately questioned him
back and said, but isn't that where all the crime is.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Now?

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Let me okay, so you and I, I mean, I
got here in twenty twenty, right before COVID, and I
remember during that period of time, right there was certainly
you had more people working in law enforcement and things
like that. But then as a byproduct of COVID, we
were having a lot of people professional police officers from

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up north and out west who were coming into Charlotte
to work here because it was a desirable thing.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Has that slowed down? Has that evaporated?

Speaker 11 (15:59):
Brett yees to that point to your question, Yes it has.
There's Look, there's a lot of people, you know, who
did not who do not like Chief Johnny Jennings. You know,
he's been mia since he got his three hundred and
five thousand dollars payout in May, right, But but yeah,
look there's a lot of the rank and file that

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do not like Johnny Jennings. And you know, and then
you add the fact that the pay salaries, you know,
while there's the pay has increased for starting for brand
new starting officers, it's still not you know, way up
there maybe where some people would like to see it.
And then you know, Charlotte has become more violent. And

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I say this all the time. Yeah, my first year
at WBT was twenty eighteen. We had fifty eight murders.
I don't know if it's been below one hundred cents.
So it's like literally doubled from twenty eighteen to twenty nineteen.
And it's been at that status quo anywhere from one
hundred and ten to one hundred and twenty every single
year essentially. So again, you know, it's they're you know,

(17:04):
and look, they're show it's not unique. If people were
having issues everywhere trying to hire teachers and you know,
and policemen But what really set it over was when
policemen all of a sudden became the bad guys in
the media mind or or a lot of the publics,
and they're like, well, wait a minute, why am I
going to go out there and risk this? And then
also in you know, far left cities, why am I

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going to arrest someone when they're literally going to be
on the street five hours later.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
That's that's true.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
And and when you're going to go into that sort
of existence, that's a that's a terrible thing because you
demoralize law enforcement because they're like, oh, it's the room,
it's the revolving door, and and what what it does.
One of the byproducts of that is they will taunt
cops when they're arresting them. They'll be like, hey, I'm
going to be out in two hours.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
Ha ha ha.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
You know that kind of stuff, and that that does
wear on you as as a member of law enforcement.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
I mean, it's terrible.

Speaker 11 (18:01):
And when that happens, well, you're one hundred centre right.
And you know, I remember on Monday when at that
Judiciary committee hearing, there was a hardcore left person sitting
right next to me, and when the officer who had
his foot amputated from the April twenty ninth incident two
years ago or a year and a half ago. Said,

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you know, we arrest people and they're back on the
streets before we can even finish filling out the paperwork.
And the hardcore left woman sitting next to me scoffed
at it, and I said, and I leaned over to
her and I said, no, that's very true. I said,
as a matter of fact, when a kid brings a
gun to school, within a few hours, he's back and

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he's released into his parents' custody, assuming that he has
parents or she has parents, right, I said, no, that's
a real thing. And then a person, another hard Democrat,
leaned over and said, well, it sounds like then they
need just to have less paperwork. It was making a
joke about the situation that the criminals were back on
the street right before, and that is a real, real thing,

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and that just shows you the mindsets breaking.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Brett Jensen. I know you're gonna have a great show tonight.
You've got you've got Malcolm coming on with you. And
what else you got in the in the in the bag.

Speaker 11 (19:18):
Well, they had the big press commerce today with the
mayor and the head of the CAT systems to talk
about public safety and everything like that. So I'll play
highlights from that. I had an interview from the FOP
president Daniel Refford about requesting the National Guard, and other
interviews with a couple of city council members.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Hey, let me tell you something, man, you got you
got a You got a big job in front of
you with with all of these big stories, and we
do appreciate you making time for us and breaking it
all down.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Thanks so much, Brett. We appreciate it.

Speaker 11 (19:43):
I appreciate it. Start, thank you, you got it.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Give me doue. We'll give me five.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Give me. That's a perfect song for the Roval.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Perfect song? Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (19:58):
I'm just gonna sit back for the next four minutes
and thirty seconds.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
I just let you hear the whole song.

Speaker 9 (20:03):
Now.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I'm tempted. I'm tempted love. It's a great song. I mean,
fuel Buyer, It's all about it. Man. This is where
we are at the Rovo.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
I'm hoping that you are having a great almost weekend,
or maybe maybe you're coming in here right now to
come and hang out. I'm looking at a whole bunch
of traffic coming out here here in conquered and I'm
telling you, it's unbelievable what we.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Got going on here. It's just really great. I have to.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Confess something, though, and I you know what, I'm really
I'm losing my mind in some ways.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Okay, I'm losing my mind in.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Some ways, so as you guys know, and I'm not
gonna it has nothing to do with the space stuff.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
I'm not doing any space none of that.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
But I moved from the prison of California back in
twenty twenty. I have been back there exactly one time.
One time that I went back to California, and I
was not going to California with an aching in my heart.

(21:09):
But let me just tell you something here, Okay, to
this day and I this is this is open news.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Everybody knows this. Every time there's.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
An election, I get ballots mailed to me from California,
and I, for the life of me, I cannot.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
I cannot stop the process. I can't.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
So about two months ago I got a letter in
the mail to my house where I live here, and
they they sent me a note from California saying, hey,
do you still vote in California, and I wrote them

(21:56):
back and I said, no, I haven't. I haven't voted
since the last election, back before twenty twenty. And I said, listen,
you know I'm not I don't.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
I'm not violating laws. I'm not doing any of that
sort of stuff. And I wrote it and then I
put a poignant little.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Message at the very end of it, and it was.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Tell Gavin Newsom not to call, not to reach out
to me again, sort of like a snarky joke.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Right.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
I get home last night and what is on my desk,
on my desk where I prepped my shows, where my
children come to spend.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Oh no, that's the Godfather movie. They sent me not
a ballot, but they sent me the directions for the ballot,
you know, like you get the what are the things
that it's gonna be. You know, it's we're gonna do
a water bill, We're gonna do a bill for this,
a bill for that, whatever it is. So I have

(23:01):
this thing on my desk and I'm looking at it
and I told exactly one person. I told my friend
John Stewart, and I texted him, I said, this thing,
I got this, this is crazy. I have tried every
possible way to release from California, and they keep sending
me it.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
And I'm telling you right now, I'm guaranteeing you right
now that they are going to send me a ballot
even though I sent them a letter and told them
to knock it off.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Now here's the crazy thing. Here's the crazy thing.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
And I want to be above board and clear, and
I want Isaac, I want you to memorialize this for
if anything ever happens. Okay, out of all the elections,
this one offended me the most that's coming my way,
because you know what it is. It's the Gavin Newsom

(23:55):
attempt to throw all the Republicans out and so that
they to respond to what's going on in Texas and
and and and I'm saying right now, I would never
I do, I do not I do not break laws.
I don't do any of that sort of stuff. I'm
I'm a solid citizen. Fact of the matter is, though

(24:18):
I would almost move back to California establish residency so
I could vote against Gavin Newsom. But I wouldn't do that.
I wouldn't do that. It's it's just it's crazy. I
can't get I can't get it out. They won't let
me go. And I've never like I have a stack
of them. I have a stack of every election that
has come through. I've got him in my drawer, and

(24:39):
and uh, I just I'm sitting back there and I'm
like going, Wow, the only upside to this, if there
is an upside to this, the only upside is somebody
is obviously not voting in my name because they keep
sending me stuff to South Carolina. I mean, so clearly
I'm not I'm not being utilized, you know in that regard.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
I you know, who knows. But it was it really did.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
It angered me to think that this is that Gavin
Newsom election that he's uh, you know, trying to get
rid of all the I mean there's like there's literally,
I think just three Republicans left in California at the
congressional level.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Everybody else is just.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Completely lost for And unfortunately, that's that's that's the that's
what happens when you have a once great place that
just goes goes down in a terrible way.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
All right, So we got some messages.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Let's look at some of the messages that I got
of folks are reaching out to us. People do know
that every Mexican restaurant puts a sombrero on your head
before they sing you happy birthday, right, Yes, that for
the restaurants I've gone to.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yes, I have seen that. Now.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
I don't believe it's the same sombrero. Like, I don't
think it's just a traveling some sombrero. I think everybody's
got their own, if you ever. I went to Warez
a number of times when I was a kid, and
they had these un believably fancy sombreros. I mean, like
super expensive gold stuff on it and the whole, the

(26:07):
whole deal. When I was a kid, I remember seeing
that and I wanted to buy one, but I never
had the uh the denaros, you know, I had no
denaro to get that.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
The money.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
I didn't have enough money. What else we got here? Okay,
the media's product is anxiety. What are they up to?

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah they are. They want you to keep on coming back.
They want you to come back big time, and that's
what they're trying to do. Black fatigued badly. And then
Charlotte is the new Baltimore? Is Charlotte the new Baltimore.
I've been to Baltimore, Baltimore has got some scary places.
They've got some cool places too, But Charlotte, Charlotte is

(26:53):
leaps and bounds ahead of Baltimore. I mean, I just
that's that's my that's my take. And then what got
Oh okay, here we go. This is a reference to
Brett Jensen. Charlotte Mayor and City Council are a joke.
CMPD leadership is a joke. CMS is a joke. Wait
a minute, I'm here. I'm here at Charlotte Motor Speedway.

(27:18):
Is that what they mean by CMS? No, they're talking
about the school system. Okay, that's good.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I figured once upon a time, if you wanted to
really do.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Something awesome, you could set up an amazing votech system
that would exist, a big votech like you know, vocational,
technical stuff, all that kind of stuff. And man, do
you know how stoked kids would be if you had
a platform that you put in place where they could

(27:52):
work on race cars, where they could be learned to
be pit crews.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
They could do all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
And in addition, you could use motorcycle because you can
do all that kind of stuff. I'm telling you what
you would get people who are being incredibly talented and
may be making a ton of money. That's just what
This is just one of the things that I that
I look at. If you want to see a better
school system, you gotta get them.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
To be engaged in the stuff that's being taught.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
And sometimes you gotta kind of you got to kind
of put the peas inside the mashed potatoes, and the
kids eat it.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
They don't realize what they're get.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Here's Talk eleven, ten, nine and three WBT. When we
get into this next hour of the program, I am
going to give away some tickets for the King's Mountain Extravaganza,
and so I'm really excited about that. It's gonna be great.
Let me go out and take his call from Buddy.
He is online two Buddy, Well into the program. What's

(29:01):
on your mind today.

Speaker 11 (29:03):
Ah Brett? Thank you, Yes, I wanted to talk about
remember when President Trump, Oh.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
You know what I got Wait, hold on a second,
hold on, I got I got the wrong I got
the wrong I punched up the wrong call.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
I'm sorry about that. I'm really sorry about that.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
That this is a person who is pretending to be
uh somebody that he's not. And you know what, I
know from that very beginning when when you call in
and I hear that, I had that kind of sound
right there. I know exactly who it is. I know
exactly who it is. So I'm sorry, you can go,
you can go play at the park or something else.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
But yeah, we're not taking that call. And he'll he'll
call back again.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
He tends to do it on Fridays, and uh, I
think it's it's it's something that's really not not effective
for for the audience. So let me let me go
over here and I'm gonna I'm gonna check in with
a couple of other things as well.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
I have we we have not gotten Have we gotten
sentenced as sentencing on on on Diddy yet? Has that
come through yet? Anybody?

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Have you guys seen this on the news because they
they what's that? Okay, he's gonna run down because that
was supposed to come down earlier today. Now I don't
know what's going on. I think I think it's a
deliberation that's happening. And so as a as a consequence
of that, Man, I gotta tell you, I was watching
the coverage and the storyline that is going to be

(30:36):
written when when the books are written about uh this
this time is going to be remarkable because you see,
this is basically it's a it's a soap opera that
has moved over the course of years and years and years,

(30:56):
and one of the people.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Who is who is is.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I'm not going to mention names, but one of the
people who had a relationship with him. They have had
to basically just pull up stakes and just go somewhere else,
hoping that they're not going to be found, hoping they're
not going to be outed or anything like that. And
so this thing was was a huge deal. Earlier on

(31:25):
in the day, there was sort of like dueling press
conferences where you had Mike Johnson talking, then you had
some some of the folks from the Democratic Party talking,
and then on top of that you had the the
sentencing for for Diddy, and we have to now wait
and see, you know what what the what the outcome

(31:45):
is going to be. The fact of the matter is,
for as much as people have talked about about him
and have talked about violations and things like that, one
of the issues that that's important to look at is
he's he's only going to be sentenced for X amount
of years, maybe maybe two years, three years, five years,

(32:08):
whatever that number is, I have not seen it yet,
so apologies from me. But when you think about what
he what's going to happen, is at some point he's
gonna he's going to be a free man. He's gonna
he's gonna be able to if he is going to
end up doing jail time. And when we look at

(32:29):
this and when we hear this sort of stuff, you know,
you just you have to you have to wonder about anybody.
Because one of the analysts over at Fox was somebody
who was the lead on the Weinstein case. And remember Weinstein,

(32:51):
he was at the top of the top of the
top of the mountain and has fallen so so far.
He is somebody that was being prosecuted for massive violations,
rapes and things like that, and he ended up in
I'm sorry, Oh, they're doing closing statements. Okay, So that's

(33:14):
that's what we're waiting to see because they've been they've
been in that room for a long time. They started
about eleven o'clock this morning, ten thirty eleven o'clock, and
so they're still trying to do what the deliberations are
going to be. And he's got to he's gonna have
to wait till they decide how this is going to
come out.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
But again, you think about all these huge story sagas,
all these sort of things that are that are happening
that that we look at, and all of this is
happening at the exact same time, which which is.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Amazing because we everybody's got their ability to listen to
the storyline, process the storyline, try to figure this stuff out.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
All of that.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
By the way, Democrats have stood firm. They are staying
shut down, and the White House is now saying they
are pulling billions from blue cities because they have to
cut something, so they're gonna cut money to blue cities.
One wonders what the impact is going to be on Charlotte.
One does wonder that in big, big notions, Ernst Jody

(34:31):
Ernst is demanding two trillion dollars in federal cuts and
urging the Trump team to make DC squeal amid the
shutdown fight. A Senate Republican has a list of more
than a trillion dollars work worth of ripe for trim
as federal government shut down continues, Office of Management and

(34:56):
Budget russ Vote so far announced that he's going to
withdraw or withhold thirty billion and federal funding to blue
states and cities. When we get back at the end
of this hour, I want to take a look at
what's going on over there in Portland. I'm of two

(35:17):
minds about what's going on in Portland. I understand it's
a place where there's a whole lot of kooks, there's
a whole lot of radicals, there's a whole lot of violence,
there's a lot of that stuff going on. But I
do want to also consider what happens when people say
we don't want federal aid to come in and do

(35:40):
the things that they want to do. And that's an
important thing because we do have a notion of sovereignty,
right do we? Does local control still matter? We'll talk
about that straight ahead. One hour down, two to.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Go It.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
News Talk eleven nine nine to three WBT Brett Winter
Bulls Show. Great to be with you, seven four five
seven zero eleven ten. Everything is fair game. We are
here at the roval over at Charlotte Motor Speedway and
it is a beautiful day. We're getting ready for, as
you just heard from Jim's Ochie, getting ready for the

(37:37):
race to get underway.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
It's going to be a blast.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
We are expecting and I do expect that we will
be joined at five forty five with Christopher Bell, a
tremendous race racer, and cannot wait to have a conversation
with him in that regard.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
So it is really wonderful to be here.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Always get excited when we get here, especially in this
time of the year, because it means that it's it's
really really gonna be a lot of fun tonight and
across the weekend.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
One of the things I.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Want to give away, though, is I want to give
away not a secret, it's not a secret, but I'm
giving away.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
I want to give.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Away because we've got this great event coming up WBT
night at King's Mountain Little Theater there October the seventh,
that's coming up this coming week, and I certainly want
to have enough time for you guys to be able
to enjoy this. So I'm gonna give away tickets right here,
right out of the box. And it's gonna be caller

(38:40):
number eleven. Okay, we did seven yesterday, it's gonna be
eleven today. Caller number eleven is going to win this ticket,
these tickets. It's a four pack of tickets WBT Night
at the Kings Mountain Little Theater.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Absolutely awesome.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
It is the exact date, October the seventh, that come
rates the anniversary of the actual battle that helped to
turn the tide on the Revolutionary War.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
It is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
It'll be also WBT night and can't wait to see
you there. It's going to be an absolute fun time
every possible way. And so seven oh four five, seven
eleven ten Caller number eleven.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Is going to win those tickets. How about that? And
good luck?

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Okay, let's take a look at a clip. I got
a clip that I want to play for you guys,
because I think it's a it's it's worthwhile. There is
a guy who is the Portland Police Chief, because Portland
is a big issue right now, Portland out on the
west coast right Portland, Oregon. And I want to I

(39:44):
want you to hear this. This is a guy called
Bob Day. He is the Portland Police Chief.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
He does not want the Feds coming into the town
because he thinks everything is totally cool. This is cut
number twenty two. Fire that up for me, police, if
you would.

Speaker 12 (40:02):
When it comes to first off, the National Guard being
in place. Have you seen them? Do you know what
they're doing there?

Speaker 13 (40:10):
No, they are not in place at this time. They're
receiving some additional training. We believe they'll probably be deployed
in the coming days, but they're not in place right now.

Speaker 12 (40:20):
Okay, So you haven't seen them in your city?

Speaker 10 (40:23):
No?

Speaker 12 (40:25):
And do you believe having them there is necessary? Do
you need them there?

Speaker 13 (40:31):
No? Just as you highlighted a moment ago, you know,
we're talking about one city block in one hundred and
forty five square miles.

Speaker 8 (40:38):
Certainly been some challenges now at the facility.

Speaker 13 (40:40):
Portant Police has been engaged down there extensively over the
last nine months.

Speaker 8 (40:45):
We've made over twenty arrest ourselves.

Speaker 13 (40:47):
We've conducting assault investigations ongoing. We're working closely with our
federal partners. But the facility itself is managed and governed
by the Federal Protective Service, and they have responsibility for
that and the incidents you speak of, for example last
night occurring on their property. But Portland is very much engaged,

(41:08):
and once again, this is just one small block in
a big city that we're trying to manage for all the.

Speaker 12 (41:12):
Portlanders and so so for people who aren't in Portland,
and what we've heard from federal officials describing what they
say is the situation on the ground there. You're saying
that doesn't align with what you've seen and what your
officers have seen.

Speaker 13 (41:29):
Correct, I mean the city is in a tremendous state
of renewal.

Speaker 8 (41:33):
We recognize that twenty and twenty.

Speaker 13 (41:34):
One were some tough times, but twenty twenty five we
see crime down double digits and nearly all major categories,
we're seeing high return foot traffic downtown. We've hosted some
of our largest conventions in the city's history this year,
large scales, boarding, etc.

Speaker 8 (41:55):
So no, it's not lining up.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
So let me ask you this. Let me ask you this,
And I think it's a fair question to ask. What
would you say if a different president was in charge
and was deploying the National Guard into the cities despite

(42:21):
the cities not wanting them to be there. So here's
here's the question that I would ask. Okay, the question
that I would ask is, all right, do you have
sovereignty or as as a as a person, do you
have sovereignty where you can make the decision? You're the mayor,
you're the police chief, whatever it is, and they say, Okay, yeah,

(42:43):
we don't want to help. We don't want to help
at all. We don't need it. It's we don't believe it.
It's it's fine. Like what did he just say, Oh,
it's just one block, it's like one square block.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
That that this area is that's.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Happening, and we don't we don't need you guys to
come in here.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Now, what if it was a Republican who was in
a town.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
And they're coming in and there and and they're coming
in against their will? What's that responsibility look like?

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Right?

Speaker 1 (43:16):
What does that look like? What does that feel like?
How does that all sort of come come to come
to be? And would it change.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Your mind in that regard?

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Or I mean, I look and I understand because President
Trump is President Trump, But what what does that look like? Hey,
we've just decided we're going to go into Monroe. Hey
we just decided we're going to go into Concord. We're
gonna go in over here and just bring the troops
in and and look at this sort of stuff. If

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this guy's saying he doesn't want them, and he's a cop,
and he doesn't seem like he's like a radical weirdo
I mean, I don't I don't get that sense from him.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
What about that?

Speaker 1 (44:02):
And again I have no answer, like I'm not I'm
not doing this to say, well, this is exactly how
you handle it. I'm not a cop, I'm not a
police chief. I don't know what the disruptions look like
and all that sort of stuff. But at the same time,
but at the same time, Donald Trump's building, which is

(44:24):
right there right the Federal Building or the Federal Ice Building,
you could easily just say listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna
go and and I'm just gonna protect the building. Like so,
why not just take a whole bunch of National Guard people,
put them in the building, and when these people decide

(44:44):
they're gonna come in and grab or smash or do
things like that, well, then you know what you do.
You just go out there and you reach out and
you touch them and you pull them into the See,
the smart thing to do, if you wanted to de escalate,
would be to open the door, grab them, pull them in,
lock the door, and say, in the very famous words

(45:07):
of a Bronx tail, now you can't leave.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
You wanted to come in, Now you're coming in, and
now you're not going to leave, and we're going to
keep you in there, and then in the darkn night
we're gonna go and and put you at at a
different facility. Like there's a lot of ways you can
handle this.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Like I always feel like the better answer is the
mysterious answer, which is, hey, you guys took three people
into custody last night.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Where are they?

Speaker 1 (45:38):
I don't know they left, and you just go send
them to another jail. People would eventually say, Okay, you
know what, I don't want to be part of that anymore.
But I do wonder about the whole sovereignty issue where
you've got you've got a governor, you've got a mayor,
you've got an attorney general, You've got all these people.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
How are we to handle this? I mean, we are
in a system theoretically right that is a federal is
a federalist system, meaning we have sovereignty over our areas.

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News Talk eleven ten out of nine to three.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
WBT Brett Waterbull Show, Good to be with you live
at the role awesome. I just took a quick peek
from where I was standing, and boy man, this is
it's just awesome. When you see them go through the
chicane and all that kind of stuff. It's just absolutely fantastic.
Going to be a beautiful weekend, no rain, I don't think,
and it's going to be great.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Let's reach out and touch someone and.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Talk to Robert. Welcome to the program, Robert, what's on
your mind?

Speaker 14 (46:49):
Good afternoon, Brett. Welcome to my beloved hometown of Concord,
North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Sir, how about that? Huh, it's good to be here,
my friend.

Speaker 14 (46:59):
If you, if you, if you're able to mill around
a little bit, just go out there and talk with
some people there in the infield, for instance, you will
you will encounter some real Southerners.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Oh as the best people. Man, are you kidding me?
I love it.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
I've all from the youngest age. I've always been a
fan of motorsports and specifically NASCAR.

Speaker 14 (47:21):
So absolutely there's a lot of patriotism there. That's Trump Country.
You'll see a lot of flags and every flag, every
United States flag I see. I love so. I'm glad
you're theres are and have a great time. I saw
you may have seen that I kind of interacted a

(47:44):
little bit with your tweets this morning about Governor Newsom
uh and Governor Stein. I know you were kind of
comparing the two of them, and and of course we
we saw today thankfully that Governor Stein, yes uh finally
finally signed Arena's law to to take away cashless bail
for for those those the big time criminals like the

(48:08):
one who who murdered Arena. So I hope, I hope
you don't mind that I invoked you a little bit
when I when I texted that, or when when I
uh tweeted back with with both those governors.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yes, sir, no good stuff. Absolutely well.

Speaker 14 (48:26):
I think, as we know, Governor Stein is a fledgling,
he's a he's a new governor, and and I think
he felt the heat. And if I if I just
had a little bit to do, and I know it
would be a minute amount, but if I had a
little bit to do with with pushing him over the
edge to sign that that much needed bill, then that
makes my whole weekend.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Well, I think, look, there there are things that you
can do that you don't want to do, and there
are things that you can not do that you should do.
And I know that sounds like a convoluted thing, but
the fact of the matter is who wants more crime
like I for the life of me, Robert who wants

(49:09):
more crime, who wants more murderer? Who wants more mayhem?
I this is this is this, This should be.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
A layup for a governor. It shouldn't.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
It shouldn't be anything but that. But unfortunately we have
people who don't. They want to go the hard way.
I guess, I mean, I don't understand it, but there
are people that do that.

Speaker 14 (49:33):
It's very hard to understand. Maybe he's still influenced by
the people who got him elected, the consultants who or
who tend to be, especially on the lift, they tend
to be very risk averse. They tend to say, boy,
I mean, should we really do this, even though it's
an eighty twenty issue, So it is hard to figure.

(49:56):
I'm so glad that he that he saw the lights,
so to speak. But he even when he signed it,
Brett you probably saw this, he still did the the
big belief of saying, well, even though I'm signing this,
there will be no there will be no firing squads
under my under my leadership. So even when he signed that,
he had to put a caveat in there.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Well, sure, and and and look, because that is the
only way he can telegraph out to the people saying no, no, no,
I'm still I'm still with with you.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
I'm still with you. I'm not going to allow because
he will not.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
I'm willing to bet it right now, he will not
ever allow an execution.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
He's not gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
And and look, there are reasons why some people don't
want to have executions.

Speaker 13 (50:43):
Right.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
There's the possibility of a mistake. Right, maybe maybe the
person didn't really commit uh, that that crime, and that
that that.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Is supposed to be a you know, an unpardonable offense.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Number two. What's the other one, Well, it may be
a deeply held religious belief. Right, I'm told we are
not to call to kill people. Thou shalt not kill, right,
I Mean, it's it's right there in the in the
in the Bible. But if the people have spoken, the

(51:21):
people have spoken, if the people want this, then you
you kind of have to just roll with it, which
is I know, it's terrible, it's awful. Uh, And people
are yelling and screaming and going hey, hey, hey, uh
you know this is this is not how it should be. Well,
there is a deterrent factor, at least as an individual.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
It's a deterrent factor.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
And the deterrent factor is that that person will never
get a chance to murder somebody else again. And unfortunately, this,
this young woman doing everything right in exactly the right way,
became the victim of a predator. And it was a
person that was that was who showed no respect for

(52:08):
people's lives as far as I can see.

Speaker 14 (52:12):
Correct, correct, Brett, she Arena was very unlucky. She was
she was, as you said, she was doing all the
right things. She was beautiful, young, smart, she was a refugee,
she was working kind of a menial job, and she
just happened to sit in front of a of a beast.
I mean, that's probably not the right word, but she said,

(52:35):
in front of someone who who probably almost certainly got
on that train for free and was obviously Middle East disturbed,
and she paid with her life. Sure, it is an
absolute tragedy, and I'm just hope hopefully this this signing
will bring some sense of justice for what happened to her.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Well, here here's the other thing too.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Okay, Now, if if Josh Stein is the from this
perspective and saying I am not going to send somebody
to their death.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
I'm not comfortable with that at all.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Well, we happen to have something very reasonable for us.
And what's reasonable for us is we're going to put
you away in the penitentiary for the rest of your life.
You are going to come out on a slab, and
it is because you murdered somebody and it calls for

(53:31):
proportional responsibility. So you are not going to get to
be around nice people. You're going to go and the
next time you leave the building, you're going to leave
the building on a slab. And then you're not killing anybody.
I mean, they'll it's natural. It's your natural death is

(53:52):
going to happen. And then so that's what you do.
And then there are going to be people who are
going to say, no, no, no, we shouldn't do that
because it's too expensive. Three hots and a cot for
the rest of their life. Well, it shows that we
have much more mercy than the killer does because we
are gonna feed you, we are gonna make sure that
you're not getting tortured. You're not gonna do that, but

(54:14):
you're gonna be sitting in the Gray Bar hotel for
the next fifty years. And you could maybe try to
make peace with your God, or you can try to
reform yourself in another way, or you could maybe get
back on your meds or whatever that is. You don't
have to kill them, You just have to put them
away from Polite company.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
And that's that's the other possibility.

Speaker 14 (54:36):
Robert, Yes, sir, well put Brett. I as always, I
really enjoy our conversations me too, and I think I
thank you for the opportunity and have a great time
there at the speedway.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Sir, Thank you very much, Robert. It's always a pleasure
to talk to you. And you're you're you're, you're a great,
great caller. Seven O four five seven zero eleven ten.
We gave the tickets away. We will be giving them
away next week as well. Don't don't worry about that.
We certainly want people to have a great time in
all these different ways, in all these different places.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Seven O four five seven zero eleven ten. If you
want to opine and comment, we will certainly take that
from you as well. I've got I've got some some
really amazing sound coming up here. Uh not the least
a which is oh Mika Brazinski. Mika Brazinski's very upset

(55:34):
about what may be coming when when who's the guy
that's appearing at the at the at the at the
super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
A bad bunny, bad bunny.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
I don't think she understands some things. I'm gonna help
her learn some things when we come back, like top

(56:09):
three great song of all time right here. I mean,
come on, it's just absolutely amazing seven oh four five
seven oh eleven ten seven zero four five seven zero
eleven ten to be a part of the conversation. And
we certainly love uh hearing from you, A lot of
great people coming out and talking to us, and we
are here at the Roval and it is what a

(56:31):
beautiful afternoon, just an absolutely beautiful afternoon.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Went out and.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Checked out the uh we got we got the trucks
out there racing right now.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
And I got to tell you it is it is
just the coolest thing to be able to be a
part of this.

Speaker 11 (56:47):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
I just it's it's what makes things special.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
And that's and that's I think, I think that's probably
the best way I can that I can that I
can put that because it does it does make things special.
And in those moments where you get these chances right there,
there are people who have never seen motor sports to
any degree. Right, there are things that people do that

(57:14):
are that are really ridiculous and amazing and awesome all
at the same time. And one of those things is,
you know, get out there and hear it and smell
it and.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Be with it. It's just really, it really is awesome.
I highly recommend it.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
As as Ferris Bueller's day off went and said, all right,
let's dive into a couple of other things I want
to play.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
I'm gonna I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Call an audible here because I did want to play
this piece of sound. We've got a little bit of
a scandal that is brewing that has nothing to do
with Trumper or Schumer or any of that sort of stuff.
I came across this clip. Rachel Brune is her name.
This is cut number twenty three. Apparently there is a

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new way of bringing people into the country illegally, and
this is something that people should be made aware of.
I was made aware of it by hearing from her
on the on X And this is cutting number twenty three.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Rachel Bruno. Listen to this.

Speaker 15 (58:22):
Okay, So the Department Tennessee Department of Children's Services is
taking undocumented kids and they're putting them in states custody
and the state poster care system, which means the state
taxpayers that's coming out of the state budget. And then
they are assisting these kids into getting what's a court

(58:45):
order from the juvenile court that says that they're abandoned,
and then they get a what's called an order of abandonment,
and then they get a special Circumstances juvenile immigration and status,
and then of course once they get that, they can
bring their family over or do whatever.

Speaker 6 (59:05):
This is so clever on their part.

Speaker 15 (59:08):
You've got to remember how clever and how smart cartel
immigration is.

Speaker 6 (59:14):
They make a lot of money on this.

Speaker 15 (59:18):
So I finally got my hands on a court order.
I got my hands on a court order, and I
have a hard copy of it, and it is all
about how they did this right here in Davidson County.
I have told state legislators, I've told congress people this
is totally illegal. Plus I have phone conversations stating that

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Commissioner Quinn DCS. Commissioner Quinn is well aware of it,
and she has she is central to it because she
has told other providers to report to her if they
have any issues with undocumented kids.

Speaker 6 (59:56):
Okay, cute, it is trafficking.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
I mean you it's trafficking. And here's the thing, and
this is the important part of this. So what they're
doing is they're taking these kids and they are declaring
them in the court as being abandoned.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Because of the all the stuff that goes on. Obviously,
right with that, we've been looking at the idea of
having to deal with these these young people who came
in under under Biden and Majorcis and and Kamala Harris
and all of them.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Right, So they come in, they're brought in, they are
declared abandoned, and they are placed with a foster facility,
all right, But once they get declared, they are able

(01:00:53):
to reconnect with their families coming back, if you can
believe that. So there is still trafficking going on despite
the efforts of people trying to stop this sort of thing.
And I guess the reality about this is we have

(01:01:14):
to understand that you've got to be on this twenty
four seven, three sixty five.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
I mean, it's it's unbelievable, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Mika Brazinski, Mika Brazinski is very upset about bad Bunny,
and I want to play this for you. This is
cut number twenty six. Mika Brazinski, Uh, just let it
gore fired.

Speaker 16 (01:01:37):
Up on the top advisor to President Trump says ICE
agents will be at next year's Super Bowl in California,
after music superstar Superstar Bad Bunny was announced to be
the halftime show performer. I mean, it is really jarring
and disturbing to see. And I'm gonna continue to be

(01:01:58):
jarred by this and not become a nord to it.
But it is jarring and disturbing to see somebody from
Apartment of Homeland Security reveling in the policy that has
been It is their policy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
I have to respect that.

Speaker 16 (01:02:15):
But the coarseness and the cruelty of reveling in a
policy to hear these people from Homeland Security saying we
will come and find you, we will track you down,
we will run you down, and relishing the concept of
plucking migrants off the street and throwing them into cars
and loving that and just enjoying talking about it and

(01:02:39):
enjoying engaging.

Speaker 6 (01:02:40):
In the threats of it all.

Speaker 16 (01:02:43):
That is not what I think where Americans want to be.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Okay, Uh, there's a problem here. We have an issue
with this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Does she not understand that Puerto Rico is part of
the United States, Like, does she think that bad bunny
is going to get deported to another See, it doesn't
make any sense.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Here's what's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
We have people who are not used to seeing people
repatriated back to their home countries, and I guess it
can be jarring.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
I guess it can be difficult.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
But if you go back in time and you listen
to what Christy Nome said, if you listen to what
these other folks are doing, she said, you can repatriate,
and at some point you'll be able to come back
to the United States if you follow all the laws.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
If you follow all the.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Rules, they're paying you to go home, all that sort
of stuff. But no, no, See, we're supposed to be
the people who just give in and give in and
give in. Either we have laws or we don't. There
is a a date certain where you could probably go
find some lawyer where you'd be able to grease the

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right skids or do something like that or better. Yet,
at some point you will have a president AOC and
vice president boothage Edge and maybe they'll decide that, you
know what, we don't need immigration law at all.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Everybody just gets to come in because we won the election.
Like that, they could do that too. See, you could
do anything you want in the United States as long
as you can get it passed through a legislature or
a bill or a thing like that. Obviously, there are
things that you're not going to be allowed to be
a cannibal. You're not going to be allowed to take

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people into slavery, although in many cases these people being
trafficked are enslaved. They can't just walk away. And yet
you never hear massive busts where there are people being
held against their will. It's a shame, it's a sin.
It's terrible. But but you know you can. You can.

(01:05:11):
You can activate or agitate for whatever you want. But
what you really need to do if you're Mika Brazinski
and and and she she's smart, she knows better than this.
Her husband, her her her father was a was a
big new Brazinski who helped to give weapons to UH

(01:05:32):
the Afghan rebels who were who were taking on the
Soviets back in the day. Right, he was not a
he was not a blushing bride. But the fact of
the matter is, you can do anything you want if
you can get it pushed through UH and and that
it meets and it is required or not required, but

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it meets the test going to the Supreme Court because
at some point in time the Supreme Court is is
gonna is gonna move in a different direction. So this
is how this goes. And unfortunately she's trying to stoke panic.
She's trying to freak people out. Americans understand full well
what's going on here? News Talk eleven s ninety nine

(01:06:27):
three WBT, Good to be with you seven o four
five seven zero eleven ten. Uh, let's go out and
talk to uh Stan. Hello, Stan, welcome to the program.
What's on your mind?

Speaker 17 (01:06:40):
You have a fund out at the val aren't you?

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Yes? I am. You should be you Stan.

Speaker 11 (01:06:44):
It's it's a whitch.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
It's a beautiful afternoon. Beautiful.

Speaker 11 (01:06:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:06:48):
So anyway, so I was I was listening to the police,
the police chief I get put out in Portland talk
and I'll listen to what he was saying. But I watched,
UH there was a journalist that was trying to record
that last a few last few days ago that got arrested,
and I watched the report on Fox News last night
where some girls in there trying to cover what's going
on in areas of opportment, and she was attacked and she

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had a black eye, and I saw some of the
footage that she shot, and they asked her about, like,
I'm how big an area is that they're trying to
say now that it's like just a block. No, she said,
it's like block after block after block that other people
have taken over and the police don't even go there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
And there's a.

Speaker 17 (01:07:31):
Reason that Donald Trump is not doing this. And I
think he realized what I'm just going to tell you
that I have watched, watched and realized, and that is
right now in terms of the in the electoral college compact,
they have like two hundred with all the states. If
they hadn't be signed, if they have two hundred and
nine votes, just need two seventy. Secondly, if you look
at the six major metro areas, they are approaching somewhere

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between forty to forty five percent of the population in
the country. And if we look at all the major
metro areas, they have approached like eighty percent of the country.
So if you control the metro areas and you get
it to where the electoral before you can get rid
of the electoral college and you elected by the president
elected by popular vote.

Speaker 11 (01:08:13):
And what you've done is you've.

Speaker 17 (01:08:14):
Basically taken the distribution of money and finances and well
throughout the country and you put it in control of
these major metro areas, and nobody else will ever have
to say so ever again. So this is a roundabout
way of trying to gradually take over the country. So
we can't surrender these blue city territories and think we're

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going to keep our freedoms.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
We're not.

Speaker 17 (01:08:37):
They're part of America and its sovereign and we don't
need to let any of it go. Police offers won't
go there. Then you clear everybody out so the police
can go there again. Otherwise we're going to wind up loose.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
What's let me ask you a question, Stan, what's the
worst place like in terms of a location. Okay, what's
the worst place you've ever been in the United States
that that maybe freaked you out a little bits?

Speaker 17 (01:09:04):
The worst place I've ever been? Uh, some places in
downtown Newark?

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Okay, okay, right, because you have and that is a
place that once upon a time, right was, was not
in rough shape. You know, every one of these places
where we we see once upon a time, these were
places that were that were nice. These were places where

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people had businesses, homes. Uh, their kids went to school,
their kids did things.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
And what's and this is just a roundabout way for
me to you know, co sign what you're saying, which.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Is we shouldn't we shouldn't seed anything.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
I mean, people should be fighting for every inch of
territory that they can because because it's America, Like, you know,
what part of America do we do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
We want want to amputate? I don't. I wouldn't. I
wouldn't want not even San Francisco.

Speaker 17 (01:10:04):
I mean Sanrancisco. When I went on when I went
to Newark for the first it's probably twenty twenty five
years ago. I'll drive that night. I got up in
the morning, walked outside, and all of a sudden, I thought,
so white a minute, did I'll end in Tijuana? Or
is this like in America?

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Well? Well, right, and so here's the thing. Migration is real.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Migration does does add some elements to the United States.
If people are coming in from overseas, right, Uh, and
they're coming in legally, that's great because what ends up happening.
If you bring somebody in legally, uh, and they've and
they've done it all the right way, you will have
assimilation happening when you are when you are not assimilating

(01:10:52):
is usually when you're not you're not there legally and
you're afraid and you don't want to go and do
things and you don't want to do the importance of
assimilation isn't like we just want white people to be here,
and that's that's not that's not it by any stretch.

Speaker 17 (01:11:08):
Because and if you look at most of where the
Body administration was resettling a lot of these.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Impacts, yes, it was. It was.

Speaker 17 (01:11:16):
They were putting them in specific places to do what
I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Yes, no, you're right, you're right. And everybody said about
about what Jade Vance was saying and what Trump was
saying during the campaign period, they were all like, now,
nobody's getting moved around. Of course they were being moved around.
We remember the reporting that was coming out of the
airport just north of New York City where they were
bringing in flights in the middle of the night to

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three o'clock in the morning. Nobody is flying into a
regional airport at three o'clock in the morning and listen.
List it's a life light flight, you know, I mean
where you're getting medical care.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
But the thing.

Speaker 17 (01:11:53):
Is, anyway, I think Donald Trump sees this, and I
think he's targeting the military because it's basically a war
on our sovereignty and that what the military. And honestly,
in my lifetime, I never thought that I would say,
like certain cities declare the war zone and send the
military in, and they might have like engagement limitation.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Well, okay, so who should be happening in your own country?
So who's making it into a war zone? I can
tell you exactly who it is. The guy, the guy
who's responsible for making things into a war zone is Pritzker,
because you see these riots that are happening now in broad.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
View there in in in near Chicago, and Pritzker is
a multi multi, multi trillionaire billionaire guy, and he's got
a ton of money and he's probably got walking around
money in his pocket too.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Where he's going to, you know, tell people, you've got
to stay out here and protest and make it hard
for for the people who are you know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
Not not happy. All right, I got to ask you
one last question here I am. I'm at the I'm
at the roval stand. Who's going to win the roval?
Who you got, because I'm gonna be talking to Christopher
Bell in a little bit. Who you got in this race?

Speaker 17 (01:13:04):
You know I've got I've got Walliam Barrett.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Man you are you are a man who sticks to
his guns right there.

Speaker 17 (01:13:15):
Man, I won't say how it turns out. I'll talk
to you next week.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
You got it, buddy? Thanks so much. Yet, be safe.
That's stand. Just look, I always love our conversations.

Speaker 18 (01:14:38):
No, no, hold on, we are not we are not
on the highway to help. We're on the highway to joy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
What do you want?

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
That's a very negative sort of an open what are
we doing here?

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Don go ahead, keep it, keep it going, turn it up,
don't need reason. This is if you are.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
In a race car right now, if you want to
hear this, and it's like you should driving around like
it's all.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
Energy energy energy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Seven four five seven eleven tep Brett Winter Bowl here
and it is great to be with you. I've got
my my good friend Lani here holding down the fort
with me, and we're we're we've got probably one of
the best views in all of North Carolina right now
because we we are at the Rovo and it's awesome
and it's wonderful and it's great and I cannot uh

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in any shape, way or form of be less, be less, carefree.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
I just love I love energy, I love all the
stuff that's going on here.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
But I want to ask you a question.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
This is an open question, all right, and I want
you guys to to pick up the phone seven four five,
seven eleven ten. At five point fifty, we're gonna be
with Christopher Bell, I believe is gonna come by and
we'll talk about the race and all the stuff that's
going on. But serious question. You look at everything that's

(01:16:23):
going on in the country right now. Okay, so we're
about nine months in, We're about nine months or so
in coming up on the you know, the the first
anniversary of the winning of the election, not the inauguration yet.
But let me ask you, this is this how you
thought it was going to go? And what I mean

(01:16:46):
by that is, obviously we've had deportations, Obviously, we've had challenges.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
We just I just read a piece.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
A couple of minutes ago while we were in the break,
and Donald Trump has gotten Hamas to pretty much in
every way, shape or form to get on board, because
apparently he picked up the phone and called them and said, yeah,
if if you don't take the deal, you're not going
to like what comes next.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
And I think that they probably took a thought about that.
But is this how you thought this would be?

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
The way stuff is going politically socially, the different resistance
groups and those sorts of folks. Is this what you
thought it would be? Seven four five, seven eleven ten?
Is it better than you thought it was going to be?

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Is it worser?

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
I'm making up that word. Is it worser than you
thought it would be? Seven oh four five seven zero
eleven ten. I sit back here and I look at
trends and things like that that are happening. It is
interesting to see some of the coalitions the way they're

(01:18:03):
the way they're they're holding up. I do think that
the the killing of Charlie Kirk was shocking. It was
something that nobody wanted to see. But essentially the country
has held they they understand the American people did not

(01:18:26):
go out and riot and destroy cities and do things
like that as a result of Charlie Kirk being being murdered.
People have affixed to the suspect who's in the jail
they're in in uh In, Utah, and people have understood
that they don't have to go after their neighbors, their friends,
their coworkers, any of that sort of stuff. The system

(01:18:50):
is working now. This thing that's going on here with
the with the funding the government and all of that
sort of stuff. This is a game that Schumer and
company are playing. They could have just done this, but
they wanted to try to show that they looked like

(01:19:11):
they were fighting. But the question for Chuck Schumer and
other people is this, what are you fighting for? Actually,
let's just say for a minute, there was a debate
over funding some sort of a medical procedure.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
Whatever the medical procedure is, okay, And.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
They decided that they were going to die on that hill,
and they were going to say, listen, we must fund
this particular medicine disease, whatever it is that you wanted
to try to get done, okay. So something that would
be not confrontational, What did Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries do?
They came out and demanded, I mean, the number is unbelievable.

(01:20:00):
One point five trillion dollars in spending. Where do they
think that money's gonna come from. I think for a moment,
Chuck Schumer forgot that Biden's not president. Because back in
the day, Biden could get rolled by Chuck Schumer. Donald
Trump is not going to get rolled by Chuck Schumer.
And in fact, I think they're on precarious, sort of

(01:20:27):
dangerous soil because the folks who are watching this, the
people who do not want to see funding for illegals,
people who do not want to see money going out
of their pocket for special interest groups or any of

(01:20:47):
that sort of stuff. Those are the people that are
going to come out in a big way in the
mid terms, because it's one thing to insult Donald Trump,
it's something else to insult a constituency of people in
this country who do not want to see more.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
Spending like this. They did not go out and act
crazy about the big beautiful bill. They didn't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
Nobody went out there and rioted about the big beautiful bill.
So there was no anger about the big beautiful bill.
Schumer I think has walked them right into a box canyon.
A box canyon is someplace you never want to be
because It's a canyon that you walk into, but you

(01:21:37):
can't walk out of because there's no exit. And I
think Chuck Schumer just took his caucus and marched them
into a box canyon, and they have absolutely no idea
what the answer is going to be.

Speaker 10 (01:22:06):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Now you've got some motor music.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
Seven four five, seven eleven ten, News Talk eleven ten, nine,
nine to three WBT. Julie, I want to bring you
up on the program. I'm so sorry I've made you
hold on forever. Welcome to the program. What's on your mind, Julie.

Speaker 10 (01:22:24):
Hi, I just wanted to talk about the thoughts of
the National Guards coming to Charlotte. Sure, I absolutely am
all for it. I think we should be proactive. If
things are going well then and they come, then things
will be even better. If things are not going well,

(01:22:45):
then they come, then they help to be peace in Charlotte.
Lyld Viles saying that she doesn't want them, we don't
need them. We're okay, obviously we're not. We've had all
kinds of uh that's going on in different ways, and

(01:23:07):
I just think we need to be proactive. I think
she should take any tool that is out there. For
us that's been offered. Why not.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
That's a great that's a great that's a great attitude.
That is such a great attitude. Broadly speaking, do you
feel safe in Charlotte or or do you are you
worried about about things in Charlotte.

Speaker 10 (01:23:30):
Oh, I'm definitely worried. I think there's a lot of
people out there that have medical issues mentally that have
not been addressed. And just like these career criminals are
being let go and loose out there, we have no
idea what is going on out there. No, I would

(01:23:52):
not feel safe at all. I have two sons. I
tell them, you know, watch your back, you know, the
just the the aware. I would not take the light
wheel at all. I'm thus for even the increase that
they want. I don't have any faith in our our
government here in Charlotte.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
Yeah, look that that is something that people are really
concerned about, and safety is Once you get the feeling
that you're not safe, it's very hard to come back
from that. I can probably name maybe two or three
people who were able to kind of pull that off.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
I mean, you go back to the.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
Rudy Giuliani days when the city was really chaotic and
he was. He decided, okay, we're going to start, you know,
cleaning up the city. And people were then now starting
to come back in and then unfortunately, you get a
Doblasio or somebody like that who comes in and they
make it a horrible mess again. And so I've never
understood why people would be willing to sacrifice safety and

(01:24:51):
security for what for virtue signaling great stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:24:56):
Doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
It doesn't, doesn't, It doesn't.

Speaker 10 (01:25:00):
It all starts at the voting. People need to wake up, listen,
why what's going on out there? And if you want
to make a difference, you've got to go out there
and do it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
Great attitude, Julie. Thank you for calling in on the
program today.

Speaker 10 (01:25:15):
Thank you great.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
So oh I appreciate it.

Speaker 10 (01:25:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Absolutely. Look, here's here's the here's the here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Here's the thing that we're that we're seeing here, right,
And what we're seeing is so once you had COVID
in twenty twenty and then you're coming down the you're
coming down from that, people decided they were going to
sell their houses. Right, They're gonna sell their houses up
in the northeast, Uh, sell their houses in New York,

(01:25:43):
New Jersey, up in Massachusetts, et cetera. And then what
did they do. They wanted to come down and they
wanted to be a part of a better place. So
they came to Charlotte and they have They have done
very well for themselves now.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
You have got so much potential to make good choices
that you know, you've got Ron DeSantis down in Florida,
great weather, you do have to deal with hurricanes and
things like that. But there are people vying for people
to come into these communities.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Charlotte is a growing community.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
If you were to go to New Jersey, or you
were to go to Pennsylvania, or you were to go
to Maryland, there are people who are not really competing
as much for that. And so what is so great
about what we have here in Charlotte is the idea of.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
A brighter day the next day.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
And that's the magic that you need to have, because
if you don't have that and you're not optimistic, everything
becomes soured. And that's one of the things that people
do not necessarily get with.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
All of this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
Unfortunately, there are places that you know, you don't necessarily
want to go.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
You don't want to go and spend time. You don't
want to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
But here at the at the Rovo and here uh
in Concord. This is this is an amazing place. I
can't tell you, Like when I think back when I
first started following motorsports, uh was in the It was
in the early late eighties, early nineties, so it would
have been right when I was coming out of high

(01:27:35):
school into college, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
We we didn't have tracks like this where I grew up,
because I grew up in El Paso, Texas, and we
had we.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
Had a couple of dirt tracks and things like that,
but but not like what I was seeing on television
and being able to consume it and see it and all.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
That sort of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
And the thing about that was it drove me to
want to go and see things, to do things, to
experience all of these things. And there are a lot
of people, uh in the former places that I've lived,
you know, California, Boston, New York, where they they they

(01:28:16):
will pack up their family vacation and they will come
down here and spend time here. And I talk to
these people and they say, Wow, it's so normal here
it's so great here.

Speaker 9 (01:28:29):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
People people want to be here, and you have things
that you can do, and you can have fun, and
you have space, and you have all this great stuff
that's out there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
And I can tell you. At the same time, I
still have very good friends.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
Back in San Diego, and some of them are going
to be lifers there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
They're not They're not ever gonna move. And when they
come this way or when I go out and see them,
it's it's like they they feel like they're being VISI
by somebody who just they're like, Wow, you're really happy. Wow,
you seem you seem like you're having a good time.
All that sort of stuff. That that's what's that's what's

(01:29:11):
amazing about it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
It's an it's an attitude, but it's also the idea
of being able to go to a place and say, listen,
I'm gonna make my own dream happen, or make my
own business happen, or any of that sort of stuff.
There are plenty of places that are competitive and that

(01:29:34):
are amazing, and there are plenty of places where you
can sense that people are just hanging on by a thread.
And for the life of me, I've never been able
to figure out, why would you just stay in a
place where you're gonna be miserable, go to a place
where you're gonna be really happy and excited, and go
see things. Most people, one of the things that's important

(01:29:55):
is most people never travel further than.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Fifty miles of where they're born.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
I have loved the idea of traveling and seeing things
and moving places because it gives you a better perspective.
And I think, like, if you take your kids on
road trips or foreign trips or whatever you're doing, you're
making them smarter because they're seeing the world and they

(01:30:23):
can cope in a much better way. And that's one
of the things that I think is hugely important. So
I was so happy to hear from Julie because she
was she was dialed right in on what she was
talking about. And I think, for the most part, if
you want to be successful, you have to be an optimist.

(01:30:44):
You have to be somebody who says, I'm going to
do this, I can create this, I want to create this,
I want this to happen, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
And you have to have passion.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
And I think that's that's really the secret to so
much to this, Like as you're going into the weekend,
right maybe you're coming, you're coming here to the race,
to the roval. Take it all in, look at all
the great stuff. Come here early, stay late, all that
great stuff that you can do because there are people

(01:31:18):
within one hundred miles of us, five hundred miles of us,
two thousand miles of us who who are envious, and
all they have to do is have fun.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
That's that's that's the only way I.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
Can really kind of put this together. So stick around.
I've got I've got some great stuff. Straight Ahead News

(01:31:52):
Talk eleven ten niney nine to three WVT. It's a
pleasure to welcome to the program somebody who is one
heck of a racer, and it is Christopher Bell who
is joining us here on this incredible, incredible roval.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
Race that's going to be happening, and he races.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
The number twenty Toyota Camry for Joe Gibbs Racing.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
And it's great to have you here. Thanks for making
time for us.

Speaker 7 (01:32:18):
Absolutely, thank you for taking the time to chat with me.

Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
Oh listen, I grew up a little bit down the
road from where you grew up, and I was in
we were in West Texas at Paso, Texas and all
that sort of stuff. And one of the things that
that's amazing to me when I when I get to
talk to folks, are who are in the business that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
You're in is the passion that you have. Right. So, so,
when did you first want to start racing?

Speaker 7 (01:32:45):
Man, it was it was a very young age for me.
So I grew up in Norman, Oklahoma, and there's there's
no NASCAR in Oklahoma, right and there is there's a
lot of dirt track racing, but none of my family
was into motorsports. Never in a million years that I
think I'd be here. I thought I'd be playing football
for Oklahoma Sooners or my dad was a basketball coach,
high school basketball coach. So I grew up loving football,
basketball And it was actually a family friend took me

(01:33:08):
to a dirt track whenever I was five years old,
and I fell in love with it. Started driving whenever
I was six, and I'm like, this is this is life,
this is what I want to do.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
So when you when you think about going from that
moment in time, you had to have a lot of
faith in yourself. You had to have a lot of
you know, Gusto all that kind of stuff. How how
did you How do you remember your first win that
you got?

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:33:32):
Man, I'll be honest, I I don't remember my first win.

Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
Uh awesome.

Speaker 7 (01:33:37):
I do remember the first time that I drove a
car though, uh. And my parents actually tell me this story.
They probably I probably remember them from them telling me.
But so I I went to the races with a
family friend. I'm like, yeah, this is really cool. I
think I'm going to give it a shot.

Speaker 10 (01:33:51):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:33:51):
Well, it's it. Racing is difficult, Like you're not just
going to pick up a car and go race right
like you had. It's expensive. So my parents rented a
car from uh, you know, another guy out there borrowed.
I'm borrowing a fire suit, a helmet, we get, we
rent the racetrack, we're there. They have all this money
tied up in these resources. Sure, and then I'm like,
I'm nervous. I don't want to do this. This isn't

(01:34:12):
for me. And my parents were like, Okay, well, I'll
tell you what. If you go out here and you
just make one lap, you just drive the car, I'll
buy you a Nintendo game. And just took a little
bit of a bribing and then once I got in
the car, it was that's all she wrote.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
And do you still get the same feelings from that
moment when you get when you come here to the
Rovo and you're getting ready to to strap in and
and and race.

Speaker 7 (01:34:32):
How about that, I assure, do you? Yeah, it's just, uh,
it's a feeling unlike anything else. And you know, since
the days of early dirt track racing in Oklahoma to
now the Cup Series, you know that it's gotten a
lot more intense and there's certainly a lot more uh
you know, stuff around it. You have people who are
paying lots of money to be associated with you, to
wear your their logo on your chest, and you you're

(01:34:55):
you're basically, ah, you know, a spokesperson for their brand,
right and and you have that front of the job.
And then finally, once you get into the race car
on race day on Sunday afternoon, and you're done with
all the pictures, you're done with the national anthem, you
get in the car, you flip that ignition switch. Yep,
it's like it all comes back to me to that day.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
See, that's what's amazing. And by the way, it's dualt right,
is that is that your fault?

Speaker 7 (01:35:18):
Yeah, Dalton Reim There there are two primaries. I got
some great sponsors with dalt ream Mobile. One has been
on the car a couple of times. So Interstate batters
as well. We've got a great group.

Speaker 11 (01:35:28):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
You talked about you know, you thought you might grow
up and play football.

Speaker 7 (01:35:32):
I'm glad I didn't because I am not big enough
for sure, so not big enough, not strong enough. So
I picked the right sport for me.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
So you but you do have a connection to a
very very well known person, right, who's that Joe Gibbs?

Speaker 7 (01:35:45):
I do, I do. Indeed, my boss is a pretty good,
pretty good coach back in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
He was a great coach back at the day. I mean,
just absolutely phenopen. I was always a Dallas Cowboys fan.

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
So you're you're that's the rival, the enemy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
Speaking of which, like, so when you're out there racing
and and you're you're doing the things that you need
to do for your for your craft, I mean, this
is an amazing thing that you get to do.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
Do you pick up things during the race.

Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
I'm gonna try that because that guy did that, and
I'm gonna do How does that sort of work with
you guys, especially with so many cars on the on
the on the roval.

Speaker 7 (01:36:20):
Yeah, all the time. And and you can you know,
do all the preparing that you want and watch like
we watch a lot of you know, post race film
or previous events and stuff like that, and you can
be as prepared as you can be going in. But
each race is different, and there will be someone out
there that pioneers a new line and they start running
way up the racetracker, way down on the very bottom

(01:36:40):
of the racetracker, like, wow, I haven't seen that before.
So it happens time and time again. You know, the
cars of all the setups change, so you gotta you
gotta be out there and and most of the time, I,
you know, am one of those guys that's trying something new,
something else. But certainly that's very common throughout our sport
or for people to you know, hit hit on different

(01:37:02):
things and and always evolves.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
Is there a track that you desperately want to conquer?
Is there one where you just go, I want that
one to be my big one.

Speaker 7 (01:37:14):
So we're we're sitting here at Charlotte Motor Speedway, and
this one has always been a super special race because
we're we're at home all basically all of the NASCAR
industry is based in the Charlotte area. Uh. Every time
you come out here in race, you have tons of
family crew members. So Charlotte Motor Speedway is a very
special race. You have the Coca Cola six hundred, the
Rovo Weekend, which are our crown jewel events in our sports. Sure,

(01:37:37):
I've been fortunate enough to win both of those. The
big one on my radar right now would be the
Southern five hundred, and obviously that Championship at Phoenix Raceway.
So got a great opportunity coming up for that championship
event this year, just a couple of weeks away. So
hopefully we uh yeah, I gonna have a Hopefully we
have a shot at it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
Look you you came in here a couple of years ago,
you had a win and you got to win. How
you've had what's your forecast for this one coming up
this week?

Speaker 7 (01:38:04):
Yeah, I'm optimistic. I'm feeling really good about it. Our
situation is a lot different than it was that year
in twenty twenty two. You know, we're way out of
the point, so points didn't matter. We were able to
you know, find ourselves in victory lane that day and
advance on into the round of eight. This year, we're
sitting well above the cut line, so I think it
does open up our strategy a little bit to hopefully

(01:38:26):
favor in track position and hopefully, you know, lending itself
a little bit better for a race win. Road courses
have been really strong for us, so I think we're
in a really good spot. There's this guy named Shane
van Gisbergen. He does really well here. Yep, well, it
does really well at all of the road courses, so
he's going to be tough to beat. But I certainly
think that this Dwalt Camery is going to be up

(01:38:48):
there in the front.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
And I would be remiss if I didn't have you
shout out your your crew chief.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
Who is it?

Speaker 7 (01:38:54):
Yeah, Adam Stevens. He's the man with the plan. I'm
fortunate to drive it for him. His resume speaks for
himself or speaks for itself. And yeah, he's got two
championships with Kyle Busch, zero with Christopher Bell. We need
to change that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
Well, you're gonna I think you got a bright future
in front of you, and we love watching your race.
And and we wish you nothing but the best and success,
and we really appreciate you being here today.

Speaker 7 (01:39:17):
Hey, I appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
You got It's Christopher Bell. This is gonna be amazing
this this weekend. Be sure to check it out at the.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
Roble News Talk eleven ten not A nine three WBT.

(01:39:50):
Last segment of the show. But don't worry. Don't worry.

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
We got plenty of stuff coming up over the course
of the next couple of hours, including, but not limited,
you're gonna be here from a break Bret Jensen and
of course you know what who else you're gonna hear from.
You're gonna hear it from TJ. Ritchie, who's gonna be
here on location, and you have great conversations, lots of
incredible stuff. Once again, thank you so much to Christopher
Bell for coming by. Really a tremendous racer and I

(01:40:17):
gotta tell you a really really wonderful person in the
way he's the way he's carrying his torch there.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
And you know, one of the things that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
I really like when I'm talking to people is people
who are feeling like they have the ability to do stuff,
Like you want to see people succeed I think some
of the saddest things that can happen is the idea
of people who become cynical because they're not succeeding, they're

(01:40:53):
not doing that that sort of stuff. My dream when
I was coming up was to be a I wanted
to be a broadcaster, and sitting in the studio watching
Rush I remember the very first.

Speaker 2 (01:41:09):
Day that I that I met him and.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
To see the way he handled his craft up close,
because I mean we were we were right across the
glass from each other, and we were able to talk
during breaks and things like that. And one of the
things that I've personally experienced and that I that I
love is the idea of passion.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
There are people who are are kind of not not
faking it, but they may not they may not be
all in. And I think to do anything great, I
think you have to be all in. And you know,
I could, I can.

Speaker 1 (01:41:53):
I could play you a couple of clips of people
who I think are all in. I have people who
want to talk about important sort of things.

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
That that matter.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
But the most important thing I think that we can
do to be successful is to just be honest, like,
don't don't put on errors, don't don't put on, you know,
sort of weird kind of things just because you want
to try to chase something that you think it should be.
And when I decided that I was going to go

(01:42:29):
and become a broadcaster on a full time basis, and
I had a conversation with Russias, as many of you know,
and he asked me, why do you want to go?
And I said I want to go because I want
to go get my own show, and and kind.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
Of did did that conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:42:46):
And that's that's where when you step off of the platform, right,
you step off and it's now you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
It's all on you.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
I love the note of it being on me when
I'm doing stuff like this.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
Great.

Speaker 1 (01:43:06):
People want to be challenged, and there are things that
you can do to challenge. There are things that you
can do to be different than other people. But everybody
understands exactly what a phony is. People see phonies, people say, oh,

(01:43:26):
this person's not real, this is not really what I'm expecting,
or any of that sort of stuff. If you're a
real person, if you're somebody who you understand, you're willing
to take those chances.

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
That's all. That's all you really can do right.

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
And so think about the great politicians, think about the
great inventors, think about the artists, and maybe you might
not like their politics, but you have to realize that
if you want to get to the place where you
want to go, you have to sacrifice. And it's interesting

(01:44:07):
because you would think that sacrifice is equivalent to success.
There's no guarantees in life. There's no guarantees in businesses
that you're going to start or projects that you're going
to start. There's no guarantee. But that's the really cool
thing about it. I feel like in this coming age,

(01:44:31):
like talking about when we're talking about AI and stuff
like that, people are really afraid of AI. People are
kind of nervous that it's going to come and take
them away or do something like that. But the more
you can learn and the more you can be curious,
those are all ways.

Speaker 2 (01:44:51):
That you can be successful.

Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
Because people who are on the surface, just like a
surface thing, after a period of time, they just get
bored and they're gonna walk away from whatever they're trying
to do. And what I think sitting here over the
last few hours and watching these people go around this

(01:45:16):
track very very fast and having to make turns and
the roval parts itself and all of that. Those are
people who want this to be their thing. Everybody has
a thing that they want to have or they want
to be, and.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
You just have to find it. It's the thing that
makes you happy, or it's the thing that makes you happy,
and then you're sad when you're away from it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
It's like that kind of of an emotional sort of
roller coaster ride. And if you're in that place and
in the darker night, you wake up in the middle
of the night and you have ideas and you say, listen,
I want to do this, I want to do that,
and I want this to be what I'm going to do,
and all of that sort of stuff. So many people,

(01:46:10):
like in Hollywood, once upon a time, you have these
people who would buy all of these screenwriting programs and
books and all this stuff, but they.

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
Would never write anything.

Speaker 1 (01:46:21):
The only way you become great, like this young man
who is here just a few minutes ago, the way
you've become great is just go and do it. And
what happens is people will say, but I don't know
how to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
It's not for me. I don't have that ability.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
I'm just I'm just a guy or just a girl,
or a woman or a man or whatever it is.
But you learn how to do it as you're doing it,
and that's the thing that is the coolest. Maybe you've
gone fishing and that first time you catch a fish
and you reel it in and you go, WHOA, I

(01:47:02):
did that, Well, that's really cool. But how many times
in a row can you do it? How many times
in a row can you be a success? How many
times can you fail and not give up? Those are
the things that I think are missing when we have
young people who are coming up in the world. The

(01:47:23):
good stuff is winning, but the important stuff is failing
because you'll know not to go route that route, or
you'll you'll just sort of change it up itself in
its way.

Speaker 2 (01:47:37):
And that's what it is. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:47:40):
I'm looking right as I as I sit here in
this studio, I am looking at a line of people
who are lined up. I would say it's probably two
hundred people who are lined up getting ready to be
able to talk to their favorite drivers, talk to the
drivers to look at what they want to be or

(01:48:05):
they want to be like, or their children want to
grow up to do that sort of stuff. There is
no substitute, ever, ever, ever for experience. And if you're
quietly doing it in your house, playing an instrument, writing
a book, writing an essay, thinking about it, writing and rewriting,

(01:48:27):
and doing all that kind of stuff, you're doing the
work that needs to be done. Because remember, every successful
person took that first step one time. Every successful person
took that first step one time. The people that are
successful in the most are the people who did it

(01:48:53):
thirty times, fifty times, one hundred times, because it's that
muscle memory that makes you the success. Enjoy the roval.
It's gonna be an incredible race this weekend. I am
just so happy to be here to see all of this,
the pageantry, the fun, and I am the luckiest guy

(01:49:15):
in the world when it comes to doing talk radio
thanks to Isaac and Lonnie and George and Anna and Pam.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
Remember, we live in the greatest country in the world.
Let's act like it.

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