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November 24, 2025 • 99 mins

Tune in here to this Monday's edition of the Brett Winterble Show! 

Brett kicks off the program by talking about identity theft and the devastating fallout facing an ordinary Minnesota family after a Guatemalan migrant illegally used a U.S. citizen’s Social Security number. He highlights the story of Dan Cluver, a married father of two, who has endured 15 years of debt, IRS penalties, garnished wages, and even involvement in a wrongful-death lawsuit — all because an undocumented worker assumed his identity to gain employment.

Brett questions why federal authorities allow this pattern to continue, blasting what he calls the government’s failure to incarcerate or deport offenders who inflict economic and emotional harm on law-abiding Americans. He criticizes the New York Times for soft-pedaling the severity of the damage while portraying the migrant sympathetically. Brett argues that Cluver’s ordeal exposes a broken system — one where normal citizens pay the price while bureaucratic agencies look the other way.

Later Brett discusses the escalating turmoil in Venezuela and argues forcefully for a renewed Monroe Doctrine to counter Nicolás Maduro’s regime. He highlights the suffering of political prisoners, amplified by María Corina Machado’s testimony about torture, disappearances, and repression. Brett portrays Machado as a heroic figure fighting for Venezuelan liberty while criticizing U.S. politicians who, in his view, ignore her plight. He contrasts her struggle with domestic political rhetoric—particularly accusations of “fascism” directed at Donald Trump—suggesting such debates distract from genuine tyranny abroad.

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
News Talk eleven ten, nine to three WBT. It's the
Bretwiner Bull Show. It is great to be with you,
and we will be breaking down all the big stories
from across the weekend and into this day itself. I
want to begin with something that I think is very,
very important, and it's something that, for the life of me,
I can't understand. I thought that we lived in the

(00:40):
United States of America. I thought this was the land
of the Free and the home of the brave. I
thought this was the place where people came to make
themselves a better person, to build something here in the
United States of America. All this stuff, I believed it
with every fiber of my body. And then I see

(01:03):
this story. Don't worry, we got a lot of outrage,
but this story in particular, My God, A Minnesota father
is suffering debt and fifteen years of hardship due to

(01:26):
an illegal Guatemalan stealing his Social Security number. Why do
we not incarcerate them? Why do we not deport them?
Why do we not send them to other places? The
Department of Homeland Insecurity is detaining document fraud migrants who

(01:52):
inflict massive economic and civic damage on ordinary American families,
normal people, not the illegals coming in. But the normal
people are paying the price. The New York Times sketched
the identity theft damage done to a guy by the

(02:12):
name of Dan Clover. He's from Minnesota. He's a married
father of two where he lives in Olivia, Minnesota. The
damage was done by a migrant, an illegal migrant who
worked long hours in another state until his arrest by

(02:35):
the Department of Homeland Security in March. The Guatemalan migrant
used Clover's ID to get a job. The employer reported
the wages to the Infernal Revenue Service, which then demanded

(02:57):
extra taxes from Clover's family. The identity theft also dragged
Clover into a wrongful death lawsuit after the migrant killed
an American in an auto accident. The author wrote. Some

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years the other fake Dan Clover had earned more than
his own salary at a local sugar beet factory, which
pushed the total income under the real Clover's Social Security
number into a higher tax bracket as the debts started

(03:43):
to mount. Twice he'd concocted law enforcement and contacted law
enforcement and filed an identity theft report with the Federal government,
where it landed in a pile along with tens of
thousands of other migrants, all of them stealing identity. He

(04:09):
waited for relief while the infernal Revenue Service docked his
annual returns and garnished his paychecks, costing him thousands. This
man had nothing to do with this Quatamalin. Finally, a
few months before their wedding in twenty twelve, Christie right

(04:35):
Christy decided to pay off the balance, emptying her savings
and sending in a check for six thousand dollars. Their
relief lasted only until the next tax season because of
the Guatemalin who's not supposed to be in the United
States working, and another bill arrived because of the Guatemalin migrant.

(05:05):
This one bill was twenty two thousand dollars. In a
note attached to the article, the author Eli Sasslow, said,
Daniel and his family actually spent tons of time and

(05:26):
an insane amount of energy and money trying to untangle
this mess. I think there's a misconception that it's easy
to solve identity theft. He protested his debts, went to
the IRS, visited social security offices around the state, and

(05:49):
filed police reports three times. There were a few years
likely when the Guatemalin migrant was to put when his
taxes were normal and he thought the problem had been solved,
but it would start all over again because the Guatemalin

(06:09):
who came into the country illegally continued to do the
thing he was doing. Dan Clover is in debt and
has fifteen years of hardship. He did not deserve ladies
and gentlemen. However, the article approved by The New York

(06:30):
Times pro migration editors do not disclose how much Clover
and his wife and children were required to pay the
IRS due to the purported fraud by the migrant. Deep
in the article, the New York Times admitted that the
IRS's oversight system was backlogged with a million suspicious numbers

(06:56):
almost eighty thousand reports of social security fraud in the
last six months alone. The Times soft pedaled the damage
done to Clover, the real Clouver, under sympathy for the
Guatemalin the migrant Romeo Perez Bravo. By the start of

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twenty twenty five, the Watemalin was preparing for another graveyard
shift in Saint Joseph, Missoura, lacing his work boots in
the dark and drafty rental while his wife and five
children slept. He packed their school lunches for the next day,

(07:43):
drove to the dog food factory, and gathered his coworkers
to say their nightly prayer. Then he swiped his badge
to begin another twelve hour shift, and Daniel Clover sinking
deeper into an identity that wasn't his own. By the
time Trump was elected to his second term, there were

(08:07):
five children in Perez's house who also depended on the
money that came each Friday in Clover's name. Most were
US citizens, ranging from four to nineteen, who answered his
Spanish with English and hosted birthday parties at the Olive Garden.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
This is what the New York Times does.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
The article is silent about the employers who accepted the
Guatemalans clearly fake ID numbers, and is silent about the
legislators and the Congress and the officials at the IRS
who did little or nothing to stop the fraud. For
twenty years. This man has been tortured for twenty years.

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His lawyer advised him. His lawyer advised him because this march,
local police and the reinvigorated Department of Homeland security finally
aided the American citizen by arresting the illegal immigrant who
has stolen his identity. The newspaper reported it this way.

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His lawyer advised him that he was essentially out of options.
She also managed to postpone his case until at least
January twenty twenty six, but he faced a mandatory minimum
of two years in prison, followed by deportation to Guatemala.

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The article notes in passing that the migrant killed an
elderly American in an automobile accident. A court ruled that
the death was not his fault, but the court and
the newspaper were silent on the fact that the elderly
the American was killed because the migrant was in the
United States under the tacit protection of the United States government,

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the employers, and the identity theft.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
What are we.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Going to do? This man lost his identity? What are
we going to do? Remember what happened last week when
everybody was immaculated on the streets of Charlotte. We must protect,
we must protect, we must protect. Why don't you people

(10:34):
who marched with the no Kings, why don't you people
donate your identity to these folks and leave Dan Clover
the heck alone. He did nothing wrong and he pays
the price.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Explain it to.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Me, all right, So Marjorie Taylor Green announces she's leaving
the Congress in the next year. It's gonna be a

(11:14):
very interesting thing to process. The President the United States
not taking it lightly. President Donald Trump on Friday welcome
the announcement that Representative Marjorie Taylor Green, Republican of Georgia,
will be resigning from the Congress in January, characterizing the
decision is a positive development and signaling no intention to

(11:36):
repair their strained relationship. In a phone conversation with ABC
News is a senior political correspondent, Abby Scott, President Trump
responded to the news of Taylor Green's resignation by saying,
I think it's great for the country. It's great. When

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asked if Green had given him any advanced notice of
her plays, he replied, nah, it doesn't matter, you know,
but I think it's great. I think she should be happy.
When asked about the rift between them, President Trump remarked
only between me and her, not her, and about the rift,
not her and me, and indicated that he does not

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currently intend to speak with her, though he wishes her well.
So the tongues are wagging. Now, people are wondering, Okay,
what is she going to do? Is she going to
maybe run for the presidency in twenty twenty eight? I
mean imagine that's a possibility if she wants to try
to do it. But the problem that I see with
this situation is I don't know her, what her coffers

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look like. And in Washington, d C. As everybody knows,
as the same as you know state capitals, you've got
to have money to be relevant. If you are not
relevant because you don't have the money, then that's a
whole other deal entirely. So what do we have happening?

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Now?

Speaker 1 (13:01):
We have a green who was first elected in twenty twenty.
She built her brand on an outspoken supporter of Trump
and America First Agenda posted her resignation on x citing
disillusionment with both of the parties, okay, both of the
major parties, and declaring that nothing ever gets better for

(13:21):
ordinary Americans. In her statement, she criticized what she described
as the bipartisan failure of Washington DC to address issues
such as rising debt, the outsourcing of American jobs, and
a lack of meaningful legislative progress. Now, come on, we

(13:44):
have to stop this right now. All right, what gives
you any idea that we would be doing the things
that she was expecting to get done. I'm serious about this.
People go to Washington, DC? Do people go to Washington,
d C. People go to Washington, d C. For one

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of two reasons. Number one, they're hoping that they'll be
able to protect their phony, baloney sort of jobs. That's
number one. Number two, you want to get in there
and mix it up. You want to be famous. You
want to show up on the CNNs and the MSNBC's
and Newsmax and Fox News and all that sort of stuff.

(14:27):
Marjorie Taylor Green has had a pretty good run by
that metric. She is way more famous than she ever was.
Nobody knew who she was once upon a time, and
she's had a pretty good ride. Let's let's be honest
about this. She's she's been at this circuit for five years,

(14:47):
five years, and if she wants to run for the presidency,
she can do it. The problem is, it's all about
the money. It's always all about the money. And I
mean there are people that are gonna slag her and
try to try to say tyr things about her. But
she did her business, she came to Washington, d C.
She had an impact. I don't know what the story

(15:10):
is going to be at the very end of her
of her life. I'm sure she's got a lot of
chapters still to write. But in her statement, she criticized
that the bipartisan failure of Washington d C to address
such issues as rising debt, outsourcing American jobs, and meaningful
legislative progress. Let's be honest here, President Trumps has done

(15:33):
a pretty good job on the outsourcing of American jobs.
It's not as bad as it was before he came
into office. Rising debt, you can blame that on Biden,
and none of the people on the left are going
to are going to take any kind of responsibility about that.
And then finally, a lack of meaningful legislative progress. Well,

(15:55):
when you've got a tight my majority and it's like
really tight, and she's quitting, so it's gonna get even worse.
It feels to me like she's taking the ball and
going home so that the game cannot be played. And
and so you know, if if this is, if this
is what she wants to be known before God bless

(16:17):
her she could do that. There's a lot of people
that have quit. Think of all the very important people
who who are now very very important because they quit.
Michael Cohen. Michael Cohen. Yeah, Michael Cohen, he was, He
was famous. He was famous unintentionally last week when when
when you had Stacy Plaskett or Plasquette getting getting calls

(16:43):
and asking questions based on the the uh, the deal
with Epstein. Everybody now knows Stacy Plaskett. Everybody now knows
you know Cohen. Everybody now knows all these people, right,
these are all now super famous people. I would say
this though, I would say this, and I'm not trying
to be mean, and I'm not trying to be petty,

(17:05):
and I'm not trying to be cruel. I would put
Marjorie Taylor Green in the category Madison Cawthorn. So what

(17:27):
if I told you that the idiots in California are
doing idiotic things breaking news. Liberals in California are now
standing in line at home depot to purchase a single
seventeen cent scraper, only to then return it and get

(17:49):
back in line to purchase another, aiming to freeze sales
in protest of Home Depot allowing Ice to do operations
in their stores. So these these people, these these lunatics,
are spending their days doing this. This is what they

(18:12):
are doing. They're spending their time in this way. Now,
there are people who are lobbying for certain things. For example,
big mouth Mom, I already like that name. Big mouth
Mom says this can be easily mitigated by a single
line for purchases under one dollar, a single line for

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returns under one dollar set up both in the gardens section,
require an ID for credit card purchases and all returns,
and limit returns to one per day. When they change
the tactics, we should to that. That's a very creative approach.

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I mean, that's a that's a that's a stupendy created,
a creative approach. Don't forget Naive bu Kelly. You know
who Naive bu Kelly is. He's the he's the president
of El Salvador. His comment, he who spares the wolf
sacrifices the sheep. That's a that's a profundity. That's a

(19:22):
profundity right there. Roberts, welcome to the program. What's on
your mind?

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Good afternoon, Brett. That's very good of you to work
during a holiday week, sir.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Oh, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here for you.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Is Isaac working off this week?

Speaker 5 (19:39):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (19:39):
We have, we have Nick. Isaac has retired from from
the from the uh you know, producing business here and
he's doing great things. And he's doing a lot of
great things. And I got Nick, Nick, Nick, say hi
to to to Robert. He's one of the he's one
of the prolific callers. And I mean that with all

(20:01):
great respect to say say hello.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
There, Nick, Hi, Robert, Nice to meet you.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Good afternoon, Nick. Bret solific is using the word prolific
is high praise. But if he choose to use it,
I can handle it.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Right on, right on. Well you bring it every night, dog,
What do we got?

Speaker 4 (20:22):
I just just wanted to comment a little bit about
Marjorie Taylor Green. I wrote, I wrote a little bit
about it on X and I characterized her resignation, which
I certainly did see is I did.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Not expect it.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
I put it on the Richter scale. I put it
as a as a five point zero earthquake within the
within the GOP, of course, on a on a ten
point scale, I thought it was fairly significant. But not
a major quake.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Well, look, she has beef with the president. President has
beef with her, and I think, you know, the two
of them are going to see things in a completely
different perspective. And you know, look, the nice thing about
this is nobody nobody gets hurt. You want to you
want to leave, You're free to do it. I mean,
that's that's fine.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
I have no issue with that.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Yes, I agree, and I do. I do think the
President went too far when he when he called her
a trader. I really do believe that that's over the line.
It's certainly not the first time that he has maybe
gotten a little bit out of bounds. We all love
him for his candor, and that's what sort of that's
what Caroline always says when he when she's asked about

(21:34):
such things. But I don't think she would have much
of a chance as a twenty eight presidential contender against
the likes of of JD. Vance or Rocco Rubio or
a few others.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Well, that's true, and and look, the reality is, you
have to raise a ton of money and you have
to have name recognition. Now she certainly has name recognition,
and I'm wondering if she's maybe eyeing a seat maybe
in this state of Joy, Georgia where she where she would,
you know, want to maybe try to, I don't know,
become the governor or something like that.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
But but the only time is going to tell. I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
I'm sure she'll write a book and she'll she'll make
the rounds like everybody does, and maybe she'll make a
little bit of coin, and you know, she may she
may have something else up her sleeve. And you know, look,
I I I hold no no malice towards anybody who
wants to either be in the Congress of the Senate
or or leave the Congress of the Senate's it's it's
it's a distinctly personal decision that has to be made.

(22:32):
And you know, I'm totally good with that.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yes, And she laid it out. She laid it off
for about ten minutes as to why she was doing it.
Of course, she talked about the h one d VS
is with the with the Chinese coming in, which honestly,
I'm not I'm not a big fan of that either.
I don't I don't trust the Chinese, and I think
a lot of their students who come in could very
very I think a lot of them would be would

(22:57):
be basically own the Chinese payroll. In fact, I think
a lot of them would be in trouble if they
did not spy for their government.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Well back in the back in the day, Okay, back
in the day, when you had the Soviet Union, you
you were mandated by the Soviets and by communists other
other communist governments to to do as much damage as
you possibly could, stealing secrets, stealing technology, doing all these
sorts of things. They don't play on the same uh,
on the same battlefield. They they are, they're in a

(23:27):
completely different game of their own. And then a lot
of them are being sponsored by the by the CCP
to come in and to and to be part of
these different programs. CCP has got a ton of money
and they can they can spread that money around in
a in a huge way. And that's the thing that
we have to always understand. Our enemies are only you know,
just a few minutes away from where we are, and

(23:51):
and it's a it's a really frightening deal. Now on
the MTG story, uh that people are starting to talk
about also is this typically when somebody retires from the
from the you know, from the from the House, they
get to give a speech. It's like a farewell speech, right,

(24:11):
And people are speculating because of things that Marjorie Taylor
Green has said. They are speculating that that maybe she's
going to stand on the on the on the floor
and give her give her colloquial right to get get it,
get it out the get out the door. But she's
going to be able to then name names that may

(24:34):
not have been out before. And she's protected by the
speech and debate clause, so she may be getting ready
to do this and say, Okay, I'm gonna give you
fifty people who are part of the Epstein Island stuff
and all that. That's that's what people are suspecting at
this stage of the game.

Speaker 6 (24:51):
Robber, Yes, I knowest she would have immunity to Yes,
she and other House members would have immunity to name
names and not right, and I think there is a
clamoring for those names to come out.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
So far now, I think it's fair to say that
four people.

Speaker 7 (25:06):
Have been.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Punished to some extent, but from when I've heard Breadth,
there could be as many as a thousand.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Sure victims, very possible, very possible.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
So I still believe it's a big story, a.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Big time great stuff. Appreciate you calling today, Robert, Thank
you very much. You're great.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Thank you, Brett.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
You got it absolutely all right. Let me give you
this and get your thoughts on this particular take. We
just talked about Marjorie Taylor Green. Now let's pivot over

(25:48):
to somebody else who I think is pretty much in
the same category as Marjorie Taylor Green, and that would
be Jasmine Crockett. She might disagree, but Jasmine Crockett, this
is what she said over on the CNNNN. Okay, here
we go, CNN Crockett. Trump has caused consistent spike in

(26:09):
political violence. Really, let's think about this for a second. Monday,
on CNN's the lead representative, Jasmine Crockett, Democrat of Texas,
said President Donald Trump has caused a consistent spike in
the violence when it comes to politics. Crockett said, I

(26:35):
believe that we all need to pay attention to Trump
and how he acts. He is the cause of all
the confusion and destruction that we have seen in politics
as far as I'm concerned. Because it used to be
we could disagree, and that was that I disagree with
a lot of Republicans, but do not necessarily turn violent. Well,

(26:59):
is there is there a threshold where you can turn violent?
Like that seems like that's what she's kind of she's
kind of putting that out. I disagree with a lot
of Republicans, but it does not necessarily turn violent. Ever
since he's been introduced into politics, we have seen a
consistent spike in the violence when it comes to politics

(27:23):
as a circular that's a circular argument she's giving you that.
I know she's a lawyer, she went to law school,
but that's a circular argument. She added. So here's the
deal with Marjorie. I can appreciate what she says, but
I'm going to have to see her actions. And the
reality is that there was this type of mood when

(27:46):
we saw what happened to mister Pelosi in his home,
who's not even an elected official, but because somebody decided
to go after Nancy Pelosi. Where this was when we
saw that we had local elected leaders murdered here recently

(28:09):
the former Speaker of the House in Minnesota, Like, where
was this right? And so frustrating for me with not
only Marjorie, but Maga as a whole.

Speaker 8 (28:25):
Is their.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Place to find out phase. Hm, well, I mean it
is true. The the the rhetoric has gotten very, very combustible.
And obviously I think Jasmine Crockett understands that they did
murder Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk was murdered for actually doing

(28:51):
what you just said, having a conversation. Huh. But she
she may not, She may not remember that Charlie Kirk
was murdered at the hands of a whacked out furry
buy furry boy. You know, you look at all this
sort of stuff and this is unfortunate. Right. The violence

(29:14):
is not necessary. I have never You will not hear
Brett Wooderble say, oh we need violence, we need violence
to settle things. And here's why, because you remember the
No Kings.

Speaker 9 (29:26):
Remember the No Kings.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
I only have one King, my Lord and Savior. The
No Kings were all running around and screaming doing their
thing a couple of times. They remember they were afraid
because we were going to celebrate the military in Washington,
d C. Remember they were trying to trying to get
all angry and people were fighting and yelling and screaming

(29:48):
and all that kind of stuff. The No Kings are
just losers. But the fact of the matter is, actually
shouldn't say they're losers. They're very elderly and concerned with
absolutely no mission of any sort of thing. But the
fact of the matter is there is a lot of violence. Like,
for example, do you guys remember when they shot up

(30:08):
the Catholic school in Minnesota. Well, she seems to forget that.
She seems to forget the congressional attack that took place
at the baseball practice. She doesn't she might not have
been who knows. Maybe she's I mean, she's pretty young.
Maybe she doesn't know that that ever happened. This is

(30:30):
it's kind of interesting to say that it's all Donald
Trump's fault. Who was lighting the cities on fire back
in twenty twenty when Donald Trump, Donald Trump wasn't doing that.
I'm just trying to kind of lay this out for
her because I think she's perhaps confused. Maybe, Oh, who

(30:56):
was the presidential candidate who got shot? Remember the presidential
candidate who got shot back in July? And Butler, Oh,
it's Donald Trump. So Donald Trump is also responsible for
his own shooting, I guess. And if you're if you're
if you're kicking it with Jasmine Crockett from Texas. I mean,

(31:18):
there's a there's a lot of stuff, there's a lot
of violence out there. No, I you know, I think
I think this is just a matter of people who
don't want to do the deep dive and understand that
people who are criminals or people who are out of
their minds need to be prosecuted for the acts that

(31:42):
they commit. Number one and number two, you need to
you need to kind of try to turn it down
a little bit. I like I said, I've not I've
not ever said we need to have violence. I'm not
a pro violence guy. I think we should be able
to have our conversations. And that's why every single day

(32:03):
behind this microphone seven h four five, seven oh eleven ten,
I'm happy to have the conversation. I'm very happy to
have the conversation. You're not gonna hear me saying we
got to go and do something to this guy or
that guy or the other guy. I don't think that
that solves anything. What that does is it creates a
a combustible environment that none of us should have to

(32:26):
deal with, none of us. And yet you have the
people who burn buildings down and burn things and loot
and riot and do things like that. That's that's no
way to go about a country. And I can tell
you this with near biblical certitude. As as Donald Trump

(32:47):
moves into the second year of his presidency, and then
the third year of the presidency, and the fourth year
of the presidency, when Donald Trump leaves, I can, I can,
I can claim with biblical certitude that there will still
be division in the country even though Donald Trump's not there.

(33:09):
And I think there will still be violence in the country. Unfortunately,
because you have a group of people who are too
immature to be part of the political discussion. We should
have a way for these people to do this in
a virtual way. But there are people who do not
necessarily need to be involved in the politics of the

(33:30):
country because they're just not mature enough. Whether they're one
hundred or whether they're fifteen, they're not mature enough to
understand the stakes and what this means. Something we should
think about, something we should think about. Get hyped, get up,

(34:15):
stay in your car if you're driving, don't get out
of the car. It is great to be with you.
Theed Brett Winterble shit our number two and we're so
happy where you've been, Where you've been, how you doing,
where you've been, what's going on. The Monroe Doctrine was
a US foreign policy statement in eighteen twenty three that

(34:39):
declared that the Western Hemisphere closed to further European colonialization
and interference. In exchange, the United States pledged not to
interfere in the European affairs or existing colonies. This doctrine
established the unit United States sphere of influence in the

(35:03):
United States Americas and warned European powers that any attempt
to colonize or interfere with independent nations in the Western
Hemisphere would be viewed as a hostile act, period, full sentence.

(35:27):
This is why we have to straighten out Maduro, because
Maduro is a problem, a huge problem. He's a guy
who is a narco state masquerading as an actual country.
Now you think about this, it's got to happen. Let
me ask you this question. When you heard that beginning

(35:50):
of the last hour and I read you the horrific
story with the Guatemalan who stole this guy's identity and
this guy has been tortured low these many years, how
did you feel about that? You probably didn't like it.
And to add insult to injury. What did we talk about.

(36:14):
We talked about this guy, the guy who's not supposed
to be in the United States killing somebody with his car. Now,
it's easy to understand that had that man never made
the journey into the United States, that person might still
be alive. But we know for a fact that that

(36:36):
man would not have his documents fraudulent used in a
fraudulent matter. We need to show people whose boss. And
it doesn't mean that we have to nuke them, but
we have to send them the message.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
What about this?

Speaker 1 (36:57):
What about a brush back pitch? What happens when you're
crowding the plate? What do you get? You get a
little chin music.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Come in your way.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
For those of you who are unfamiliar with chin music,
you can look it up. It's on the Google. You
can look up the chin music. But with this in mind,
I submit to you that it's time for us to
reinvigorate the Monroe doctrine because our end of the hemisphere

(37:32):
is ours. The Europeans got all that other stuff. They
got Europe, they got parts of Asia, they got parts
of Africa. These folks, they've got all that stuff, But
the reality is Meduro is a bad ombre. You know,
he's trying to make himself famous by by talking to

(37:56):
people and reporters and all that. But let me let
you hear somebody who's a genuine hero, a genuine hero
who is deserving of of course, the Nobel Prize. And
this is Maria Carina Machado. She is the only thing
going as a counterweight to the Maduro regime. This is

(38:22):
cut number seven, and I want you to hear what
she is saying about what is happening. They're in Venezuela.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Cut seven.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
Well, we have over eight hundred and fifty political prisoners.
Many of them are totally disappeared. Their families have no
idea where they are, They have no communications for months
with them. Some of them have been tortured, some of
them have died in prison, at least ten and the

(38:52):
regime just in the month of October disappeared, took away
fifty five people. Many are very close to our teams.
People I know that I've worked with young people. I
have to call their mothers at the middle of the
night and give them these horrible news, and no single

(39:13):
person there is to speak right now. Even for posting
in your social networks a picture or protest. You can
be taken away and in prisoned. But the country's organizing
us never before.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Now here's the thing that's important to understand. Number One,
she is trying to reform Venezuela.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Number one.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Number two, she has been assaulted. They broke her nose.
She was a part of the Deputies chamber and somebody
went and punched her in the face.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
What is that? What is that?

Speaker 1 (39:54):
You don't hear AOC, you don't hear Mandami, you don't
hear Crockett, you don't hear MTG clamoring for this woman
to be protected. Do you know that these maniacs went
into her office. She was an elected official. She's not

(40:15):
some fly by night person. They went into her office
and they detonated tear gas in her office. This is
not somebody who's playing games. This is somebody who's fighting
for liberty. That's what she's fighting for. And boy, isn't

(40:37):
it interesting? Isn't it fascinating? Give me cut number five?
This is fascinating to me because Zorhan Mandami doubling down
on Donald Trump is a fascist.

Speaker 10 (40:50):
Cut five, then Trump. A reporter asked you whether you
believe that President Trump is in fact, a fascist word
that you've used in the past.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
You're about to answer.

Speaker 10 (41:01):
Then President Trump sort of jumped in and he said, quote,
that's okay.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
You can just say yes.

Speaker 10 (41:07):
It's easier than explaining it. So, mister mayor elect, just
to be very clear, do you think that President Trump
is a fascist?

Speaker 11 (41:14):
And after President Trump said that, I said, yes, and
so you do. And that's something that I've said in
the past, I say today. And I think what I
appreciated about the conversation that I had with the President
was that we were not shy about the places of
disagreement about the politics that has brought us to this moment.
And we also wanted to focus on what it could
look like to deliver on a shared analysis of an
affordability crisis for New Yorkers.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
So, so like, let's understand this. You have a man
who is working as hard as he can to liberate Venezuela.
We have a willing partner in Ms. Machado, And we
have this sickophan, this sickophan, this amateur, this person who

(41:59):
thinks that he can throw around the big words fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist.
To me, I look at this and I say one thing,
give me liberty, give me death, give the people of
Venezuela liberty, or give them death. But the reality is

(42:23):
the reality is that all these folks who walk around
with the same messaging and the same sort of thing,
we have to do this. We have to protect these people,
those people, the other people. We don't have to go
and invade. This country is going to be liberated by

(42:44):
hook or by crook. And I don't want to see
any more crooks in that country. Because you've got putin,
You've got the chicoms, you've got all of the malign
actors with a boat low.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
In Venezuela.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
It is time for Venezuela to be free, to breathe freely,
and to be the greatest of the great. All it
takes is getting rid of the dead weight. And I

(43:27):
have to take time, Zach.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Game, No, no, I'm talking about just let me alone.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Yet long ago.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
To that, oh.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Rain forgot a lot of nights.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Why why are all these people going after people like
Riley Gaines. I don't understand this. It doesn't make any
sense to me, She says, I have a job. Riley
gains fires back after this. This character is over on MSNBC.
Pablo Torre claims that she made big money from her
advocacy work. See it's so ugly to see how these

(44:13):
leftist soy boys go after people like Riley Gaines. And
we all know what the backstory is, right, I mean,
it's because she dared to say women's sports are for women.
Riley Gaines has pushed back hard after a new claim
that she is making money from her advocacy work. Podcaster

(44:36):
and investigative journal list Pablo Tory, who brings nothing, by
the way to Morning Joe other than obvious opinions just
super obvious, shared an investigation saying Riley Gaines earned money
from speaking events and her leadership center. Gaines quickly rejected

(44:58):
all of it and said it's a baseless hit piece.
She said the report does not bother her because she
is fully busy caring for her new baby. According to
swim swam oh, I read it every day. Pablo Torre's
investigation said that Gaines was paid twenty five thousand dollars

(45:19):
in twenty twenty five for an appearance by Harris County
Republicans in Houston, Texas. This report also said she earned
one hundred and twenty six five hundred and thirty two
dollars Wow, no change in five months from her leadership institute,
which was funded by the Devas family. Gaines responded that,

(45:44):
saying she has a paid job, it's not a shocking
discovery at all. She said she does not care about
these claims because she believes she's on the right side
of history. So like these these people decide they want
to go and target somebody. Now Pablo Tory, I think

(46:09):
it's called Pablo Tory finds out like, what's such a
weird name for a show? Or I'm gonna find out well, okay.
Riley Gaines has also spoken again about why she wants
transgender athletes kept out of women's sports. In an interview
with Fox News, she said the rule is important for

(46:30):
young girls who dream of growing in their sports. She
said mixing transgender athletes with biological women will hurt women
and their physical and mental growth. It's it's like so obvious.
If Pablo Tory probably I don't think. I don't know
if he's got kids, But maybe when you experience the

(46:53):
life giving opportunity that you get by by raising kids,
maybe you'll think about it very differently. When you're looking
at your son or your daughter or maybe your sons
and your daughters. I mean, as many as you want,
and I get it, but come on, twenty twenty two

(47:14):
is a long time ago, and Leah Thomas winning the
Quote Championships. It's this is the problem that people have
and unfortunately, unfortunately you're gonna have these people who are
trying to play games do this sort of stuff. I'm
telling you you do not want to tangle with Riightley Gains.

(47:38):
She has been through a lot, she has stood tall
all of this stuff. I mean, my gosh, what are
we doing?

Speaker 2 (47:48):
What are we doing?

Speaker 1 (47:50):
I you know, I'm old enough to remember when people
would say there's a war on boys, there's a war
on girls. Now actual girl are being targeted, unless, of course,
you're a you know, leftist sort of person and you're

(48:11):
you know, excited about everything else. But the fact of
the matter is there has to be a lane for
women to compete. And that lane doesn't mean well, I'm
just gonna go and change everything up and.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Do this thing instead.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
I to me, to me, you should compete and be
honest about it.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
The way you're competing.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
You know, I can I can tell you there are
a lot of dads there are a lot, a lot
of moms. There are a lot of grandmothers and grandfathers
who want to see women succeed, young girls and women succeed.
For too long, they they've they've they've not been where

(49:02):
they should be. And the fact that Pablo Tory wants
to go and try to start nonsense, I look, I
would too if I had to spend time talking to
Joe Scarborough and Mika Brazinski. I mean, I think I

(49:22):
think i'd I'd rather just watch paint dry.

Speaker 9 (49:37):
You feel that, Yes, yes, I can feel it. News
Talk eleven ten ninety nine three w b T.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Seven O four five seven zero eleven ten with an
exclamation point on And I'm telling you right now, that's
what you do. Seven o four five seven oh eleven
to ten with an exclamation point boom. That's how we know,
That's how we roll. This is why we do these things,
all right. We got people who were commenting about a
variety of different topics. So let's let me go out

(50:13):
here and pay off the debt. Here we go, you ready, hey, Brett.
The violence was and has always been stoked by the media.
The entire Democrat conglomerate was scared of him, meaning Trump,
so they attacked in a way that scared would attack.

(50:36):
He was on a losing side with the GOP, whom
were scared to fight back, worried that the media would
do it to them. He now has taught the GOP
how to fight back. I honestly believe had Trump never
won in twenty sixteen, the Republican Party would be dead.

(50:56):
Very possible, very possible that the Republican Party would be
did because remember who was running. And remember the first
time you saw Trump on the stage when he was
being a candidate for the presidency, go all the way back,
all the way back. He was doing an incredible job

(51:20):
of calling out all of these other sad sacks. I
mean you think about you think about the Bush that
didn't get elected, right, I mean Bush had a real problem,
He had a real problem. He didn't get elected, and
he was basically driven off the stage. He made fun

(51:40):
of Rand Paul, He made fun of Marco Rubio, he
made fun of everybody. He made front of Ted Cruz.
He said to Ted Cruz that his father was involved
in the assassination of Kennedy. Do you remember that? That
was unbelievable. And then he dropped, Hey, Ted Cruz, you
were born in Canada. I mean, when you go back,

(52:08):
if you go back and look at the list of
what Trump did starting in twenty fifteen, and you look
at the people who were on the stage, he eviscerated.
He eviscerated people like Rand Paul. He kept saying. Trump

(52:31):
would say to Rand Paul, look at you. You're not
going to be on this stage at the next debate
because dot dot dot and Mike Huckaby. Mike Huckaby gave
one of the greatest comments when he was on the

(52:51):
stage and he said about his journey. He said, I
was so poor.

Speaker 5 (53:03):
That I.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
I had to wash with lava soap. Okay, lava soap.
And he said it took me until my junior year
in college to realize that a shower shouldn't hurt you.
I mean, it was like it was and that's like
see and you know what happened. What happened?

Speaker 3 (53:28):
What happened?

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Think about this right.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
What happened was he ingratiated with President Trump because he
was able to go as good as he could take.
Marco Rubio, they went at it. They went at it.
Lindsey Graham, they went at it. Marco Rubio. He was
doing this thing where he was telling people that there

(53:53):
that Trump's hands were small. Do you remember that?

Speaker 7 (53:55):
That was the thing?

Speaker 1 (53:56):
And Trump Trump has him as his secretary of state. Now, see,
it's it's one thing to be angry and be like
an angry psycho kind of person, and it's something else
to be put on a show. Everything that President Trump does, okay,

(54:17):
is done for the purposes of advancing what he wants
or advancing what somebody doesn't want. That's that's that's that's
the that's the whole way this works. So Donald Trump's
approach is I'm going to get you to do this,
or I'm going to get you to do that the

(54:40):
other thing that you don't want to do. Marjorie Taylor Green,
they were tight.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Now they're not.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Now at some point, what will happen. They'll they'll probably
run across each other and and they'll they'll they'll be
talking to each other. This is this is the game
show notion.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
This is the stuff.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Doesn't mean that he doesn't believe what he's saying, but
I mean, my gosh, take a look at what's trending
right now. All right, take a look at at some
of the stuff that's trending. I mean, it's incredible, it's
absolutely phenomenal what he's got going. So let's go over

(55:22):
to something completely different. Remember what happened at the end
of last week where the Democrats came out and said
that Donald Trump is a danger and that Donald Trump
is a problem, and that Donald Trump is not allowing
people to be safe and all this sort of stuff. Right, Well,

(55:44):
what did we find out over the weekend. We found
out that some of these arguments are just hot air,
just absolute hot air. Let me give you an example,
all right, Alisa Slotkin. Okay, you guys know Alisa Slotkin.
She was one of the faces of this video that
we played on the station, I think when it was

(56:06):
on Thursday, Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday of last week, and
then the thing blew up across the weekend. Listen to
Elisa Slotkin, Senate Democrat Michigan on Trump and ignoring Trump's
orders cut four.

Speaker 12 (56:22):
Please very clear that no one should follow an illegal order.
But it's very murky when you look at what is
an illegal order, and if you go into morally ethically,
that's a pretty tough thing to look at and say,
how do I navigate this.

Speaker 13 (56:42):
I don't.

Speaker 14 (56:42):
I mean, look, you going back to Nuremberg, right that, Well,
they told me to do it.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
That's why I murdered people. Is not an excuse.

Speaker 14 (56:48):
If you look at popular culture, there's like you watch
you know a few good men like We have plenty
of examples since World War Two in Vietnam where people
were told to follow illegal orders and they did it
and they were prosecuted for it. So the best thing
for people to do is go to their jags, their
local law enforcement or a legal officer in their unit,

(57:08):
and ask for some explanation, ask for help. And that's
what we've been advising.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
People to do.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Mmmmmm okay, very good, that's wonderful. That's what you're doing.

Speaker 7 (57:17):
Right.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Of course, you had to elicit, you had to elicit
the the issue of genocide. So Donald Trump is committing genocide?
Is that why you're talking about Nuremberg? Excuse me? This
doesn't make any sense. Well, just a little while laid her,

(57:39):
Alyssa's Slotkin acknowledges she doesn't have any evidence for this,
none of this. She doesn't have any evidence of people
violating their oaths or any of that sort of stuff.
She just wants to be famous for being famous cut
number six. Please go, let's talk right now.

Speaker 12 (57:57):
Do you believe President Trump has issued shoot any illegal order?

Speaker 14 (58:02):
To my knowledge, I am not aware of things that
are illegal, but certainly there are some legal gymnastics that
are going on with these Caribbean strikes and everything related
to Venezuela.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Such as what you're being vague? You can't be vague
in this regard. Why are you doing this? Why? I
mean seriously, like think about that is I mean, Kevin
says Trump's greatest success is telling lies and having people

(58:34):
believe them. He tells people that prices are down, and
people be believing. He tells people that he will give
them a two thousand dollars check for the tears. The tears,
the tears, and the people believe him. In many ways,
he is the most successful president ever. The finding success

(58:57):
as getting things that he wants done. Not necessarily good. Okay, Kevin,
that's good. That's a take. That's a take you got
right there. So it's kind of odd, but I mean,
I understand, I understand what the core value is that
you're that you're offering up here, and I think it's
you know, people have a choice when they go to vote.

(59:21):
Now you say that Donald Trump is telling lies, what
was Joe Biden telling and what was Joe Biden's administration
telling during all of those years of the Biden administration?
Because I would argue that Joe Biden, Joe Biden pulled
the strangest deal of all time. You had a president

(59:45):
in Barack Hussein Obama saying to Joe Biden, I don't
want you to run. Then you had him run, then
he got the job, then he forgot how to do
the job, and now nobody wants to talk to Joe Biden.
I would I'd stack up Trump against Biden any day,
every day. Don't you remember the infamy when Joe Biden said, well,

(01:00:12):
if Vladimir Putin just just just goes in a little bit,
it's it's gonna be all right. It's just an incursion.
If Vladimir Putin just takes over some territory in Ukraine,
so we're not gonna go to war over that, it's
not gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
And what ended up happening.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
This is a guy who's never been writ in his
entire life, and you're seeing stuff that Trump's able to
actually execute with a hostile territory. Come on, man, come on, Kevin.
That's good that that's a take. That's a take you
got right there. So it's kind of odd, But I mean,
I understand, I understand what the core value is that

(01:00:49):
you're that you're offering up here, and I think it's
you know, people have a choice when they go to vote.
Now you say that Donald Trump is telling lies, what
was Joe Biden telling and what was Joe Biden's administration
telling during all of those years of the Biden administration?

(01:01:11):
Because I would argue that Joe Biden, Joe Biden pulled
the strangest deal of all time. You had a president
in Barack Hussein Obama saying to Joe Biden, I don't
want you to run. Then you had him run, then
he got the job, then he forgot how to do

(01:01:32):
the job, and now nobody wants to talk to Joe Biden.
I would I'd stack up Trump against Biden any day.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Every day.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Don't you remember the infamy when Joe Biden said, well,
if Vladimir Putin just just just goes in a little bit,
it's gonna be all right. It's just an incursion. If
Vladimir Putin just takes over territory in Ukraine, and so
we're not gonna go.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
To war over that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
That's not gonna happen. And what ended up happening.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
This is a guy who's never been right in his
entire life, and you're seeing stuff that Trump's able to
actually execute with a hostile territory. Come on, man, come
on News Talk eleven ten nine nine three WVT. Let's
go over to Pam the jam Warner and get a
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it is forty injury accident. We've got a hit and
run in Independence the two hundred block a wind Grave

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Drive and a injury accident thirty seven hundred block of
the South Boulevard. Also in Stoe Creek, Brown Griar Road
at Old Wesley Road, and that one looks like it
is starting to clear off to the shoulder now drive
times they are starting to slow down just a bit.
Not seeing anything major just yet. Over here in for
eighty five the outer side, a small stretch between Valentine
Commons Parkway and Providence Road, traffic does drop just under

(01:03:04):
twenty and over on seventy seven the southbound side, it
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Our number three of the program Great to be with
You seven oh four five seven zero eleven ten. The
Pentagon says it's investigating Senator Mark Kelly for urging troops
to defy illegal orders this succording to the Associated Press,
the Pentagon announced Monday that it is investigating Democratic Center

(01:06:00):
Mark Kelly of Arizona over possible breaches of military law
after the former Navy pilot joined a handful of other
lawmakers in a video that called for troops to defy
illegal orders. The Pentagon statement posted on social media, cited

(01:06:24):
a federal law that allows retired service members to be
recalled to active duty on orders of the Defense Secretary
for possible court martial or other measures. It is extraordinary
for the Pentagon, which until President Trump's second term, had

(01:06:47):
usually gone out of its way to act and appear
a political to directly threaten a sitting member of Congress
with investigation, and it comes after Trump ramped up the
rhetoric by accusing the lawmakers of sedition punishable by death

(01:07:09):
in a social media post days after the video was
released last week. In its statement Monday, the Pentagon suggested
that Kelly's statements in the video inferred I'm sorry, interfered
with the loyalty, morale, or good order and discipline of

(01:07:32):
the armed forces, by citing federal law that prohibits such actions.
Moving on, a thorough review of these allegations has been
initiated to determine further actions, which may include recall to
active duty for court martial proceedings or administrative measures. Kelly

(01:07:57):
said he upheld his oath to the Constitution and dismissed
the Pentagon investigation as the work of bullies. If this
is meant to intimidate me or other members of Congress
from doing our jobs and holding administration accountable. It won't work,
Kelly said in a statement. So we remember last week

(01:08:23):
we were talking about this. Kelly was one of six
Democrat lawmakers who have served in the military or the
intelligence community directly to members of the military. The other
lawmakers are Senator Alissa Slotkin, Representatives Jason Crowe, Chris Deluzio,

(01:08:44):
Maggie Goodlander, Chrissy Hulihan, who are all seen as possible
future aspirants for higher office and elevated their political profiles
with the videos wide exposure. So essentially the video could
be construed as, you know, a sort of a political

(01:09:09):
piece of theater that they were doing on purpose. Kelly,
who was a fighter pilot before becoming an astronaut and
then retiring at the rank of captain, told troops that
you can refuse illegal orders, while the other lawmakers in
the video said they needed troops to stand up for
our laws, our constitution. Okay, is there any indication that

(01:09:33):
this is some kind of a crisis, because here's the
thing that I can't square. So they make this video.
You know, there's a lot of ways you can go
and do things. You can go and run over to
a hornet's nest and kick it over and you can
get stung, like you can do that. What I don't

(01:09:55):
understand with this, which tells me this is sort of
like a stunt that they're trying to do. Nobody was
talking about people not following the UMCCG right, I mean,
nobody was saying listen to me. Nobody was saying, oh,
we've got all this bad order. This is terrible. These

(01:10:16):
people are committing atrocities and all this, none of that,
none of that is is the thing here. So they
just decided to drop this thing to try to mix
it up. Okay, all right, well so you did it.
So now what's gonna happen on the back side of this.
What's gonna happen on the back side of this is
these are people who are going to be very, very
famous for doing something that a lot of people probably

(01:10:39):
are disagreeing with. Now, look, I understand. Secretary of Defense
Pete Hexseth or I'm sorry, Secretary of War Pete Hexseth
said Kelly was facing an investigation because he is the
one only one of the lawmakers who formally retired from

(01:11:00):
the military and is still in the Pentagon's jurisdiction. So
that's the that's the justification by Hexth in that regard
Kelly's conduct brings discredit upon the armed forces and will
be addressed appropriately. Okay, so what does that mean? Right

(01:11:20):
of the wider group? He added that their foolish screed
sows doubt and confusion, which only puts warriors in danger. Look,
if that's the case and that's the way it works,
then that's the way it is. That's that's how it is.
You don't want to put people in danger, you don't
want to create chaos. But the standards are so far

(01:11:43):
out of the window right now. The stuff that's going
on here is really is really something because if they
want to say that Hexseth is politicizing the military, it's
it's actually Kelly who would be the guy who's doing that.
And by the way, at what point do we get

(01:12:05):
to this place where we say, Okay, we're gonna have
these military uh, these these folks who are who served
in the military, and we're also going to have an
intelligence group. Because you have two people that are tied
to intelligence. They're they they're not people who necessarily served

(01:12:27):
directly out out on the battlefields and things like that.

Speaker 12 (01:12:31):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
And that's Goodlander. By the way, do you know who
Goodlander is?

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Goodlander is from New.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
Hampshire and son of a gun. Do you know who
she's married to? Oh, let me tell you who she's
married to. She is married.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Two. Oh look at that. I gotta get a.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Break news talk eleven ten, not an I'm three WBT
Bret Liable show.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Good to be with you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
All right, So here's the story with Jake Sullivan. Jake Sullivan.
Jake Sullivan is married to Goodlander. Now I find this
to be incredibly suspicious. I think this is wacky suspicious.
Because he was the National Security Advisor. You could make

(01:13:36):
the argument that he was the guy who allowed potent
to do what Putin did. And really, let's be honest,
he was also the guy who saw the attack on
Israel from Hamas right. I mean, look, I'm sorry, but

(01:13:57):
the facts are the facts. Jake Sullivan and is a
is a very dangerous character, all right. He's always there
at the scene of of whatever is happening in any way,
shape or form. So yeah, so he is married to
Ms Goodlander. The the the person who was I believe

(01:14:18):
she was a Navy officer, naval officer, and uh, this
is a just a this is just a very interesting
sort of turn of events when you think about how
all this stuff is happening. So she's somebody who's connected
to the intelligence community. Alissa Slotkin is connected to the

(01:14:39):
intelligence community. You know a lot of these things happen
in plain sight, right, And so why were we Why
would we mix these folks in the intelligence community with
the military itself, Like, why would we why would we
amalgamate this? This this means something, This has to mean something. Jake,

(01:15:05):
Jake Sullivan is he's a sketchy character.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
I mean he is.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
I'm sorry, but I mean that's it's the truth, all right.
I mean, you think about this stuff. John from Connapolis
says Mark Kelly retired as a Navy captain Army colonel.
His next promotion would have made him an admiral. And
in the Uniform a Code of Military Justice u CEMJ,

(01:15:31):
there is a charge that only applies to officers. It
is Article eighty eight, and it applies to contemptuous words
directed at the president, vice president, Congress, and the Secretary
of War. That's a that's a very interesting turn of

(01:15:54):
events here. I mean, this is this is something they
did this recall for the purposes of a court martial
in the second Recheck movie. Oh yeah, okay, I remember
that one. Right, that's right. What else have we got?
We've got a lot of people here. Slotkin and Kelly
should be charged with inciting the US military to insurrection.

(01:16:18):
They should be sentenced seventy five years at a supermax
with no possibility of parole. That is Chris from Charlotte
with his thought in this regard. Let's jump out and
talk to Stan.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
Stan.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
Welcome to the program.

Speaker 17 (01:16:32):
All Ry Brett, how are you doing today?

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
I'm well, thanks, thank you very much.

Speaker 7 (01:16:36):
Ch I've listened to.

Speaker 17 (01:16:37):
You talk about all the different issues that we're having
all day long, huh, and all of them can be
broken down into our corrupt money system. And I came
across a quote today I don't want to get your
thoughts about. This is from Thomas Jefferson. He said, if
the American people ever allow private banks to control the
issue of currency first by inflationed the deplay the banks

(01:17:01):
and corporations that go up around them will deprive the
people of all property until their children wake up homeless
in the continent. Their father's conquered.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
Huh. That's a very yeah, that's something interesting, that's very interesting.
But we haven't I mean, we haven't looked. We haven't
collapsed yet. We still got plenty of money left, We
still have the ability we could print it.

Speaker 7 (01:17:24):
All the prints are still great.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
Right, I mean that's look. I mean, come on, how
how's it positive?

Speaker 7 (01:17:32):
How is it? Hey? You print the money and pay
that fifty your mortgage.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
Let me tell you something. I'll say this right now. Okay,
you listen, I still got checks in my register, so
I mean, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna write them.

Speaker 7 (01:17:47):
Hey, write one way, that'd be great.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
No, No, what are you doing now? You're now you're
decaying my lifestyle. You're you're trying to you're trying to
horn in on.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
That there stand.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
I mean, this is this is it's quite something.

Speaker 17 (01:18:02):
That's the that's the biggest problem our country has. And
what's really ironic to me is that I didn't I've
even't had people talk about the federal reserves and then
they'll tell me it's not the problem. Then that somewhere
in the conversation and they'll tell me they don't know
that much about it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
That's always that's always fascinating that see, that is always fascinating.
I like, I like the way you hit that one.
Good stuff. Stan, appreciate you risk you got it absolutely. Okay,
So the President of the United States has made it official.
President Trump has just signed an executive order directing Secretary
Rubio to classify the Muslim Brotherhood as a foreign terrorist organization.

(01:18:45):
Now this is getting interesting. Okay, this is getting interesting.
Sebastian Gorka comes out and says, just moments ago, in
the presence of my NSC colleague who helped author or
the executive order, President Real Donald Trump designated multiple chapters

(01:19:06):
of the Muslim Brotherhood, including the Egyptian branch, which is
the progenitor of the modern Jahadists, Al Qaeda, Isis and
Hamas included. As we left the Oval office, President Trump
explicitly instructed us to inform the world of his tectonic act.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
And the the the.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Bit is out there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
You can you can read it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
You can see this. I'm wondering what else is going
to happen next, because I can tell you something that's
very interesting at this stage of the game, and that
is we have uncovered, not me personally, but the country
has uncovered a very troubling reality about al Shabab al Shabab,

(01:20:07):
which is a brutal terrorist organization, and money that they
are getting from Minnesota. They are they are double dealing.
This is an ugly, ugly chapter in this in this storyline.

(01:20:27):
And so when we get around after the top of
this hour or the bottom of this hour, I'm gonna
I'm gonna let you hear some of this stuff. There
are people who are complaining, who are saying, no, that's
not fair, don't do that. The the al Shabab organization
is is just that's just over in the Middle East.
It's not it's not here in the United States in

(01:20:49):
any way, shape or form or any of that. So
don't don't don't be doing that. Don't be talking about
that thing. Who's the governor of.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
Minnie Soda.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
Walls.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
Walls is the governor of Minnesota, and people are suspicious
about some transactions not with him, but he is the
governor of the state of Minnesota. And when we come back,
I'm going to give you the details on this investigation.
It is a shocker, a shocker, and I think it's
part of the reason why the President has designated these organizations.

(01:21:43):
News Talk eleven ten out of I'm three WBT. So
this just in the prosecutors UH, in in the UH
and the and the UH the Brooks murder case.

Speaker 11 (01:21:56):
UH.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
They have been found guilty. We'll get more details as.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
This moves along. We will certainly keep that in our mind.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
And it's just such a sin, such a sad, sad
thing where you have this family distraught, destroyed all of that,
and my gosh, we have got to finally make sure
that people are going to have the book thrown at
them in that regard.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
I mean, I'm looking.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
At this, and I'm looking at the seventy two time
offender that set the woman on fire in Chicago. Seventy
two convictions and he's walking free. At what point are
we supposed to say, no more, no more, You're a predator,

(01:22:48):
you're dangerous, you're a threat. These two guys went in
and killed mister Brooks. This guy's lightened people on fire.
We just had a couple of months ago what we see,
what we had on the on the light rail. The
world is getting way way more violent, and it's because

(01:23:12):
people are afraid to throw the book at these criminals, period,
full stop. I mean, this is this is not acceptable
at all. But these judges a lot of the times,
these judges a give him another chance. That's that's how

(01:23:33):
that's how he is. He just does that, That's what
he does. The murderer is is very reminiscent. This murderer
is very reminiscent of the murderer here on the light rail.

(01:23:56):
Multiple multiple, multiple, multiple.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Convictions, and they just let them keep going. What is wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
Why?

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
I mean, I understand social justice all that sort of stuff,
but seventy two times you let them out despicable in
the Brooks case, despicable six years it took to bring
justice six years. What are we doing? It's unfortunate, but

(01:24:32):
it's wrong, and we have got to stand up to
these criminals, period, full stop. Minnesotan taxpayers unknowingly funded al
Qaeda through Somali networks. Minnesotan's taxpayer funds were siphoned off

(01:24:55):
to an al Qaeda linked terror group called al Shabab
through Somali operated financial networks, according to Fox News and
the Manhattan Institute. The allegations emerged from a detailed inquiry
by Ryan Thorpe and Christopher Rufo of the Manhattan Institute,

(01:25:19):
whose review of state programs, federal records, and law enforcement
accounts pointed to a broad pattern of criminal activity tied
to tax payer funded programs. According to their findings, money
intended for housing assistance, food aid, and treatment services was

(01:25:44):
repeatedly diverted, with federal sources telling the researchers that the
millions of dollars were sent back to Somalia through informal
traders known as hualas. Several federal officers and officials familiar

(01:26:10):
with the counter terrorism operations said these remittances ended up
in the hands of Shabab Al Shabab. One confidential source
told the investigators the largest funder of al Shabab is
the Minnesota taxpayer, while another former Joint Terrorism Task Force

(01:26:32):
officials said every cent that is sent back to Somalia
benefits al Shabab in some way. The scale of the
stolen funds became clearer after the failure of the Minnesota
Housing Stabilization Services program. Originally projected at just a few

(01:26:55):
million dollars just a few million, it ballooned over twenty
one million in its first year and later paid out
sixty one million dollars in six months.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
Where's walls?

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
Where's walls? If these walls could talk? State officials shut
the program down on August the first, citing dozens of
providers with credible allegations of fraud. Weeks later, federal prosecutors
announced charges against eight defendants, all identified as members of
the Minnesota Somali community. Separate cases followed. By late September,

(01:27:35):
the US Attorney's Office reported that a fifty sixth defendant
had pleaded guilty in the Feeding Our Future investigation, with
the number rising to seventy seven by November. Prosecutors said
that the group faked meal counts, doctored attendance lists, and

(01:27:58):
created all vendors, while collecting hundreds of millions in federal
nutrition dollars that were supposed to go to the people
who were the poorest. Investigators said that the money went
towards luxury homes and vehicles in the United States, Turkey,

(01:28:21):
and Kenya. Federal authorities also charged Asha Farhan Hassan in
a fourteen million dollar autism therapy fund, accusing her of
others recruiting family members, arranging improper diagnoses, and paying cash

(01:28:43):
kickbacks of up to fifteen hundred dollars a child. All
of this to sell the notion of the greeting that
you're going to get when it comes to shaking hands
with Uncle Sam period full style. US attorney Joe Thompson
said the cases reveal a broader problem, noting from feeding

(01:29:07):
our future to housing stabilization services to autism services. These
massive fraud schemes are the drivers of the web that
has stolen billions of dollars in American taxpayer money. This
is insane. We have lost our mind.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
Oh it's okay, Now, what's a couple of bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
It's a lot, especially when it comes to taking people
and killing people. News Talk eleven ten nine three WBT.
It's the Brett Waterball Show. Let's jump out and talk
to Bruce. Bruce. Welcome to the show, sir Bred.

Speaker 7 (01:30:00):
How are you man?

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
I'm well, thanks man.

Speaker 18 (01:30:02):
I'd like to go back to this whole throw in
the book at people thing you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
Uh huh.

Speaker 18 (01:30:08):
It is probably not popular with a lot of people.
But back in college several years ago, I had some
friends that made several trips to India on mission trips,
and one of the major things that they mentioned when
coming back was that in the largest city, on the
busiest street corner, the girls could leave their purses and
come back in two hours and they were still there,

(01:30:31):
right because in their judicial system, if you steal, they
cut your hand off.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
It's it's it's it's it's awful that we have tolerated
so much crime as we do. I mean, just broadly speaking,
you know, when when's the last time you know, we've
seen swift justice being delivered. It takes forever, exactly and exactly,
and that's the problem. I mean, that's the problem, Bruce.

Speaker 18 (01:30:58):
I mean it's where where there is no consequence, things
will continue to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
Right, Absolutely, you get what you will get more of
what you tolerate, period. Full great call man, Thanks Bruce,
appreciate you being out there. Have a happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
Where's where's breaking Brett Jensen? I haven't seen him around.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
I haven't seen a break in Bretchjensen around anywhere here.

Speaker 7 (01:31:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
It's oh hey, hey, whoa where were you? Two breads
are better than one. We always say that, right.

Speaker 3 (01:31:26):
Yeah, I always try to keep my locations private.

Speaker 1 (01:31:28):
Very you had your jammer on today, right, Is that
what it was that's why I didn't see you. Let
me ask you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
Let me let me ask you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
A couple of questions here breaking Bret Jensen. We know
that Johnny Jennings has moved on down the road. We've
got a new police chief January second, January second. Okay,
do you when you talk to people in the community,
you talk to a lot of people. Do people feel
safe broadly speaking, going around town, especially this time of year.

Speaker 5 (01:31:59):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
And it's.

Speaker 13 (01:32:01):
That's really become a thing, a theme over the last
two or three years because and I think it's it's
because the murders have become more brazen and a little
bit more like news. It's not just two people getting
in a gunfight on a street corner over a bag.

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
Of weed like this is.

Speaker 13 (01:32:25):
The murders are getting away from the traditional areas and
they're seeping into the other parts of the city of Charlotte,
whether it's uptown now, like you said, you know, the
murder rate was up two in Uptown, but also but
it's also happened in other areas, and it's really sort
of happening so more. The murders have become more brazen
and almost a little bit more gruesome, which are grabbing headlines.

(01:32:49):
It's again, it's not two people getting a fight on
a street corner. These are actual headline grabbing murders, like
the one that happened in south Park where the woman
died the parking garage, you know, right around.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
The corner from the south Park newsroom. And so I think,
but no, they don't. And I will tell you this.

Speaker 13 (01:33:10):
It was this thing that I used last week Monday
on air. It was a quote that I used when
Border Patrol was in town. A woman who was the
mother of a high school student said, I gotta be
honest with you, I actually feel like while they're in town,
I can go out jogging by myself.

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
It's like that's what happened in DC during the summer.
I mean, people were like, oh, we can go walk
around and have a dinner.

Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
And right, and that's DC, right, right, I mean, And
so she was, you know, she.

Speaker 13 (01:33:39):
Said, she because I feel like, I said, what are
your thoughts about that? She goes, I feel like I
can actually go jogging during the day.

Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
How much How sad is it that it took six
years for the Brooks verdict to come out?

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
Yeah, And it was like found guilty, and.

Speaker 13 (01:34:00):
Yeah, it was happened in twenty twenty year, I believe,
or twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen, and so I mean they've
been in I believe, Correct me if I'm wrong, but
I think they ever since they were arrested, because it
took a while to find them. It took a while,
but they were and then my understanding is one flipped
on the other and so but once they got them,

(01:34:23):
the Mecklimber County court system is so backed up, and
you have to remember it all literally is because of COVID.

Speaker 3 (01:34:31):
While every other.

Speaker 13 (01:34:32):
Courthouse that touches Mecklimburg County, like for the counties they
were open, Mecklimber County shut down their courthouses for what
eighteen months, it was two full years. So that meant
all your child custody cases, your alimony cases, your child support,
like everything I'm suing Brett Winnable because he ran into

(01:34:53):
my car. Everything was put on hold, everything, And that
was part of the problem. And that's why so many
cases by the DA were dropped. Yeah, because like they
had such a thick backlog and they still do that.

Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
They're like, I don't like these cases.

Speaker 13 (01:35:12):
Will never get tried all we're gonna do is we'll
plead them down just so we don't have to go
to court, right, And that's why a lot of the crimes,
a lot of the people that were charged with crimes
were either just let go completely or dumbed down to
a much lesser charge.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
I wonder if you could, if you could have a
rocket docket that goes faster when you have a heinous
spree or something like this happening, because if we think
about this, you know, we're what two years removed from
one year or two years removed from the shootout on Galway.

Speaker 3 (01:35:49):
Oh yeah, I mean, I mean like all that, all that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
Stuff, you know, those things those happen. But that's a
particularly shocking story. And obviously, you know you don't have
the ability to dispatch justice in that regard, but it
just feels like it's got to be faster, man.

Speaker 13 (01:36:07):
Well, and I will tell you this, And I had
never heard of this until, you know, and I haven't
never heard of it since since. And I don't even
know if it's a real thing. Yeah, but one of
my all time favorite TV shows, Night Court. Yep, how
about start having a night court? Yes, for like eleven
o'clock at night. Yes, I don't even know if that's

(01:36:29):
a real thing because it was based in New York. Yeah,
I was like, that's actually a really good idea. Sure
you get all the pickpockets, you get all the dirt bag.

Speaker 19 (01:36:37):
But even regular court, you know, where you don't have
to have juries. Yes, that's smart, Like why not that
would be smart. But you probably don't have the funding.
You probably don't have this, right.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
I mean, imagine what kind of judges you're going to
be getting at three o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 13 (01:36:52):
Yeah, but I mean it'd be this, you know, I
mean to be the same type of judges. Maybe you're
an early judge or you know, a rookie judge.

Speaker 3 (01:36:57):
Good point, you throw them on there, you work your see.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
I like that John Larkat was very good.

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
If I love that, he was the best. He was
phenomenon Markey post God rest her soul.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
Oh another great talent bowl Yeah, oh book, but he
just died, he did, like just recently.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
That's very sad.

Speaker 13 (01:37:17):
So but no, I used to love that show. But no,
But my point is, yeah, like I said, I don't
even know if that was a real thing. I just
assumed it was a real thing, because I figured if
andyone's gonna have twenty four hour court, it would be
New York City because it's the city that never sleeps.
Of course that makes sense. Okay, you know, seventeen years old, going, yeah,
it makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
I want to know what a San Francisco or in
LA would be like at at three o'clock in the morning,
two o'clock in the Yeah, just like you know, what
are we doing?

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:37:42):
Well, and you know the judges, I could see that
you're charged with what Yeah, you're good, Go ahead, go
you're good, Go ahead, No you.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
Want listen, listen, go go go sleep on Gavin Newsom's.

Speaker 3 (01:37:54):
That's right on his divan. That's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
So what do you what do you got planned for tonight?
Because I know, I know you've been you've been mashing
and crashing and doing stuff like what what do you
got for tonight?

Speaker 13 (01:38:04):
So tonight we'll do a quick round up. Got some
more numbers concerning border patrol. And as I told everyone
last week.

Speaker 3 (01:38:14):
It ain't over.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
They're coming back.

Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
And I told everyone that last week on I think
it was maybe Thursday night. Yes, it ain't over. And
so we'll talk about that so like proof that it's
probably not over for sure, like.

Speaker 13 (01:38:29):
Actual wow really and then so we knew about the
absentees in Mecklimber County right for school, yep, got the
numbers for Cabarras County, got those And then coming on
at about eight twenty tonight, Yes, sir, you're Carolina Panthers
brought one of the take on the forty nine ers.

Speaker 1 (01:38:47):
Look at that? How about that?

Speaker 3 (01:38:49):
Yeah? I mean that's if they win. I think the
Carolina Panthers are in first place. If they win, that
is awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
That's I mean, that's really it's.

Speaker 3 (01:38:58):
Insane to even think about.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
Eventually, it was going to turn around eventually.

Speaker 13 (01:39:04):
But I mean, if they win, because because Tampa's in
free fall because they got a million injuries and they're made,
and if Carolina can somehow pull a rabbit out of
the hat like they did at Green Bay, huge, they
are officially in first place.

Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
Huge. I have a theory about why they're doing so successfully,
but I'm not going to share it yet until after
they went.

Speaker 3 (01:39:24):
Okay, all right, I'm on pins and needles.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
Breaking with Brett Jensen. His next I'm Brett Whitterable News
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

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