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September 22, 2025 • 93 mins

Tune in here to this Monday's edition of the Brett Winterble Show! 

Brett kicks off the program by talking about decency and the controversy surrounding the memorial for Charlie Kirk. He highlights how some in the media, including Don Lemon, reacted with anger toward those celebrating Kirk’s life. Brett notes that President Trump offered his own eulogy and stresses that people of faith have the right to honor Kirk in their own way without outside interference.

Later, Brett shifts his focus from politics to a deeper reflection on Christianity and its meaning in a skeptical age. He acknowledges how secular critics often portray the faith as oppressive, dogmatic, or outdated, yet he challenges that view by reframing Christianity not as control but as love expressed through sacrifice. To illustrate, he recounts the story of Maximilian Kolbe, the Catholic priest who offered his life in Auschwitz to save a stranger. For Brett, this act of defiant love captures the true essence of Christianity—a willingness to give rather than to dominate. He explains that the heart of the faith is not about winning arguments but about serving others, forgiving, and even suffering for another’s dignity. Brett concludes that in a world drowning in cynicism, Christianity’s radical ethic of self-giving love offers hope, meaning, and a vision of life stronger than death.

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
It is the Brett Winterable Show. Good to be with
you seven oh four five, seven zero eleven ten, awesome
to get to be buying the microphone, talking to very
very very thoughtful people and and some not so thoughtful people.
I look, I know, you know, we know what the

(00:38):
main topic is uh here today, And the main topic
here today is the notion of decency. That's the word
I'm thinking, okay, I'm thinking it's it's the notion of decency.
I saw a clip in the last last hour, hour

(01:01):
and a half Don Lahmon. Don Leamon is very upset.
Don Leamon is angry because people went and celebrated the
life of Charlie Kirk. And there are people in this
audience who are not happy about this. There are people
in this audience that are very happy about this. There

(01:24):
are people in this audience who are ambivalent about this.
So pretty much it's like any other day. I watched
the entire my wife and I watched the entirety of
the memorial yesterday, and I found it to be incredibly poignant,
incredibly powerful, incredibly interesting that you could get a hundred

(01:46):
million streams, you could get one hundred million streams, that
people were looking at and they've decided that things that
President Trump said upset them. But that's just called Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

(02:07):
and the following Sunday. President Trump knew Charlie very well,
and he eulogized him to a certain degree through the
lens of Donald Trump. You can't go up there and
be somebody who you're not see. This is the problem

(02:32):
they think on the left that they have any sway
over and what a funeral looks like for a person
of faith. Now, I don't know how often these folks
go into church. Maybe they go into church, maybe they
don't go into church. I don't know. Every person is

(02:54):
going to be different, but I do know a couple
of things. Number One, Charlie Kirk was murdered and his
wife forgave the murderer. That is really all that people
should be talking about today. The left loves to see people.

(03:22):
They love to see people be laid low. The left
wanted to see hysterics, threats, they wanted to see all
of that because they're mirroring what they typically would do

(03:44):
on a given time in a given place, burning buildings down,
doing things like that. That's a problem. We should not
tear down buildings light them on fire. We should not
murder people in the streets. We should not murder people
giving a speech at a college, et cetera, et cetera.

(04:12):
So Don Lemon pulled out this card that I don't
know what he was trying to do, but he was
basically saying, oh, you guys are celebrating Charlie Kirk, but
you're not celebrating us. It wasn't for you, Don, it

(04:33):
wasn't for anybody on CNN yesterday was despicable. If you
went on to CNN or MSNBC or ABC, NBC or CBS,
those people are despicable. They brought people out by the
bushel to come out and smear Charlie Kirk on the

(04:56):
day he's being memorialized, the day before or he's being interred, right,
Who does that? I mean, they went full Kimmel. They
went all around the deal here, and now today I'm

(05:18):
looking at idiots on cable channels who are denying that
Antifa exists and is a terrorist organization. This is sort
of just an overview because I'm going to come back
here in a few minutes and I'm going to explain

(05:41):
exactly to you what the Achilles heel is for the
secular movement. Many people in this audience are people of faith.
Many people in this audience are Christians, Jews, Muslims, Seventh

(06:03):
day Adventists. I mean, you name it, go down the list, right.
They are peaceful people. They are people who love what
they believe, They respect other people. You name it, you
know it. It's true. This community has an incredible track

(06:27):
record of faith, of respecting God, of doing the things
that need to be done. My gosh, just take a
look at the memorial that's going to take place tonight
for Arena. Thousands of people are going to be showing

(06:48):
up for her. Think about how this community comes together
every single time there's a disaster and we pass the
hat and we help people out and we do the
things that need to be done. That's the test of time.

(07:10):
That's the test of time. These idiots on television, these
idiots in the media, these idiots wanted to see a
fistfight breakout yesterday. They wanted to see screaming and gnashing
of teeth and all of that because they don't believe
in the special the speciality of having a faith. In

(07:35):
many cases, they don't know how to even approach it
at All they would have had to do yesterday was
sit down, shut up, and listen to what people were saying.
It's not hard, it's not hard to be decent. But
given the choice between decent and indecent, the media, the

(08:01):
activists will always choose indecency. But the secret is they can't.
They can't deliver anything but rage. News Talk eleven ten

(08:26):
out of nine three WBT Brettwaterble Show. Good to be
with you, all right, ladies and gentlemen out there. We
live in an age of suspicion, suspicion of institutions, of ideologies,
of anything that dares to claim moral authority. And in
that climate, Christianity often finds itself cast as a villain,

(08:51):
an affliction to secular minds, a relic of oppression, a
system of guilt and can that's what they say over
on the left. But what if they've been misunderstood entirely.
What if Christianity at its core is not a burden

(09:16):
but a protest, not a power grab but a surrender,
not a threat to freedom, but the deepest expression of
love that the world has ever known. Let me show
you what I mean The secular critique of Christianity is familiar.
It's dogmatic, it's judgmental. It's historically entangled with colonialism, patriarchy,

(09:42):
and anti scientific thinking. It tells people how to live,
what to believe, and threatens them with hell if they
don't comply. And yes, there are chapters in Christian history
that deserves scrutiny, even sentence. But to reduce Christianity to

(10:02):
its worst abuses by human beings, by humans doing it's
like judging music by the worst lyrics. It misses the melody,
it misses the soul. Because Christianity is not at heart
a system of control. It's a story, and stories, especially

(10:27):
true ones, have the power to change everything. One hundred
million streams yesterday people were watching for five six straight hours.
That says something. So let's talk about the story that

(10:47):
shatters cynicism. Shall we? Let me tell you a story.
In Auschwitz, the Nazi death camp, a man was sentenced
to die. He cried out, my wife, my children, and
then something happened that defies explanation. A Catholic priest named

(11:10):
Maximilian Colby stepped forward and said, I'm a Catholic priest.
Let me take his place. I am old he has
a family. The guards agreed. Colby was thrown into a

(11:30):
starvation cell. He led the other prisoners in prayer, and
when he didn't die fast enough, the Nazis injected him
with poison. The man he saved lived to tell the story.
Now pause, Let that sink in. This wasn't a sermon,

(11:57):
It wasn't a theological debate. It was a man saying,
for the love of a stranger, let me take his place.
That is Christianity, not a doctrine, not a dogma, a
defiant act of love in the face of hell. So

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when someone says Christianity is an affliction, I ask is
Colby's sacrifice oppressive? Is it manipulative? Is it irrational? Because
if it is, then love itself is irrational. Then compassion

(12:40):
is weakness. Then the highest good is survival and nothing more.
But if Colby's act means something, if it stirs something
in you, then you've already glimpsed the heart of Christianity
about being right, It's about being willing to die for

(13:06):
someone else's life. And that's the ethic of self giving love.
It's not just noble, it's revolutionary in the kind of
ethic that built hospitals, ended slavery, and inspired movements for

(13:29):
justice across the centuries. It's the kind of ethic that
says you are not alone, you are not forgotten, You
are worth dying for. Christianity at its best is a
metaphysical protest against despair. It says the universe is not indifferent,

(13:53):
love is stronger than death. The highest good is not
power but sacrifice. It's not a religion of winners. It's
a religion of the crucified. It doesn't say be perfect.
It says be willing, willing to forgive, willing to serve,

(14:14):
willing to suffer for the sake of someone else's dignity.
And that message, whether you believe in God or not,
is one that the world desperately needs because we're drowning
in cynicism, we're starving for meaning. We're terrified that love

(14:34):
is just a chemical trick. Christianity says no, Love is
the point. So the next time someone says Christianity is
an affliction, tell them about Colbe, Tell them about the
man who said let me take his place. Then ask

(14:58):
what kind of world would we have if more people
lived like that? What would that world look like, what
would that feeling be? What can you do to affect

(15:18):
not necessarily a heroic change, but a small change that
builds into something bigger. It's easy to have a political fight,
It's easy to have a political argument. It's easy to
do all of those things. And at the end of

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the day, as your head hits the pillow and as
your eyes close, that small chapter is forgotten. The sacrifice
is what it's about. Jew's Talk eleven ten out of nine.

(16:11):
Three w BT Brett Winnable show, Good to be with you.
What if you watched the memorial yesterday and you'd like
to opine on what you saw. We'd love to hear
your thoughts in that regard. Perhaps there was a particularly
poignant moment for you. I'm very curious to see what

(16:32):
may have struck with you. Be at the music, be
it the celebration, be at the the the testimonies, and
and all all that comes before that. I'm very curious
to see what it is that you all are thinking about.
We will be talking about other stuff as well. I'm
gonna I'm gonna cycle in some of the other important
things that are that are happening now, especially we've got

(16:54):
an announcement coming up at four o'clock that the President
previewed yesterday involving autism. We also found out in the
last couple of hours that Tim Kaine, who was famously
Hillary Clinton's running mate back in twenty sixteen, and uh,

(17:16):
there's a I don't know if you guys are familiar
with this guy, he's a he's a real coming. He's
coming up very quickly, Adam Schiff. So Tim Kaine and
Adam Schiff are pairing up together to stop Donald Trump.
I'm not this is not a joke, as Joe Biden
would say, not a joke. They are teaming up to

(17:38):
prevent Donald Trump from sinking any more You ready for this?
Any more drug shipments that are coming into the Caribbean.
That's right now. I know it sounds crazy, right. The
only thing missing from this, the only thing missing from this,
The only thing is Van Holland coming in and bringing

(18:01):
a side order of of of of you know, the
guy kill mar All right, let's go out and talk
to Robert. Robert. Welcome to the program. What's on your mind?

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Robert? Hi?

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Thank you. Yeah, I was quite inspired by your story
about Maximilian Kolbe. I'm familiar with that story quite a bit,
and yes, my family herald's him and great esteem. But
you mentioned the situation yesterday we watched Erica say I

(18:35):
forgive him was so powerful it it brought me and
my wife to tears, and just just in that moment,
that act of saying I forgive him, yep, was tremendous.
And there's so many people that I can't even imagine
how many people that would have affected. I'd like to
expand on on that situation.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Ahead a little more about love.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
You talk about love about eight years ago, a little
over eight years ago, my wife and I endured some suffering.
We lost the first of our four children in a
car accident. He was a twenty two year old young
man and he was in a car accident on Mother's Day.
And it was a terrible thing that we endured, and

(19:19):
we found so much comfort, and we felt the arms
of Jesus around us through our church community and from
our friends, and it filled us with so much gratitude
that we could not help but want to go find
others to love, and to find people who are suffering
and just be there for them or help them in
some small way. And that's what's beautiful about the act

(19:41):
of love. It doesn't have to be laying your life
down like Maximilian did. But if you just help someone
in a small way, in some small way that they
can't do for themselves, it fills them with gratitude and
it makes them want to go and go out and
help someone else when they can, when they're stronger and
on their feet. And all I'm saying is that, man, days,
whenever I was depressed and sad about my loss, if

(20:04):
I could find someone to help in a small way,
even it would fill me with happiness and enjoy and
not come home in a good mood. That's great, And
I'm just wanted to share that with everybody because there's
a lot of people suffering that if they could just
find someone else to help, focus on someone else, you
forget about your own problems when you start put looking

(20:25):
for other people's problems. And that's the message on a
gift today, is to look for someone else to love,
because that's when you receive it when you give it away. Absolutely,
that's all I have to say.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Let me, I'm gonna ask you one question, what what?

Speaker 3 (20:37):
What?

Speaker 1 (20:37):
What's your son's name?

Speaker 3 (20:40):
His name is Eric, Eric, Yeah, God.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Bless you, man, God bless you. And you're going to
see him again.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
He was the best, best that I had to offer
the world.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
So you'll see them, you'll see him again. You're gonna
you're gonna be You're gonna be with him. And God
bless you man.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
We thank you for speaking about Colby. That was beautiful today.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Thank you, sir. I appreciate that, Robert, you call back
any any time. I enjoyed the conversation, absolutely absolutely, Robert,
very poignant. You know a lot of times when when
and I've read I've read articles that say, you know,
somebody's suffering with the depression, right, they feel they're depressed.

(21:23):
Helping other people out helps in that regard, you know,
and that and that's this. This is this is the
reality of life. And we have to we have to
always remember that that if you're helping other people, if
you're volunteering, if you're just trying to make a difference,

(21:44):
as as he as he so beautifully said, you know,
Maximilian Colby, he did what he could do in his conditions. Right,
he was in a concentration camp, and so what could
he do? Who could he help? And he did it?
Heroes are all around us, and heroes are around us

(22:06):
all I mean twenty four to seven, three sixty five,
and in a busy world like all of us are in.
Right in those days where we're trying to spend time,
get everything done, and you're feeling like it's not mattering.
We're always in many ways, it's important to remember, we're
always modeling behavior. We're always modeling generosity or help or

(22:32):
any of that sort of stuff. There are people who
will watch you who you will not be familiar with,
you won't notice, but they'll see you do something nice.
And it doesn't have to be a massive heroic effort.
It just has to be somebody caring about somebody else.

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A smile, a wave, just a word of encouragement. I mean,
that's really what this comes down to. We don't have
to move a mountain. We just have to move enough
sand to make a difference. And that's that's what we
should always remember. News Talk eleven ten nine three WBT.

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It's the Brettwaterble Show. Good to be with you. Let's
jump out and talk to Bill, who's been patiently holding on. Bill.
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Bred.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
A couple of just two real shortcomments. One is on
Marco Rubio. I thought he really stood out as the
best of the speakers, and I thought how neat it
would be if we required all college and university students
in there, allow of them have off tampus semester where

(23:50):
they go to another country, if they were required to
go to Cuba. Mike, Marco Ruber's forefathers spent time in Cuba,
and I don't know if he did for sure, but
he knows enough about it. I think we would have
a lot more Marco Rubios if they got to spend

(24:14):
that time in Cuba.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
I think you've you've you've got a very good idea there.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
He was.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
He was absolutely fantastic, UH yesterday when when he was
UH talking about about you know, everything with with with
UH that he had experienced and things like that. One
of the things that's that's really important about that, okay,
is exchanging ideas on things. Because once upon a time,

(24:43):
right Cuba was was an incredible place and then it
was taken over by the forces of darkness. It was
it was the UH. It was the the communist UH
attack on that country that took it to a completely
different extension and Uh, there are so many people who

(25:04):
lost their lives in those gulags uh in Cuba. Uh
and and and and for and for all the measure
we could have you know, seen, we practically went to war, uh,
a nuclear war over Cuba back back in the day.
That was before my I was born. But I mean,
we're all aware of that. But I do think he
would be a very very very effective communicator. And I

(25:28):
think he's got a very bright future in front of him.
I think he's got a big, a big one bill
right absolutely.

Speaker 5 (25:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
And if back I looked up a little on his religion.
He was brought up Roman Catholic and still loves that
for the rituals. But he's also open minded and uh
attend some Protestant services too, so that's good. And the
other comment real quick was on your your friend from
San Diego, Jim. I usually agree with him and like

(25:59):
his comment very much, But I don't agree that that
Charlie Kirk's wife should be out there on the campus debating.
There are others who can do that. Yes, I really
see her as the CEO and general manager and cheer
leader more than more than being on the front lines.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
I think it's a great bit of advice. Bill. I
appreciate you calling today. Thank you so much, sir. You're
welcome absolutely here. Give me cut number one Marco Rubio yesterday.
And this is a little sound if you didn't get
to hear it. Bi his deep belief.

Speaker 6 (26:40):
That we were all created, every single one of us,
before the beginning of time, by the hands of the
God of the universe and all powerful God, who loved
us and created us for the purpose of living with
him in eternity. But then sin entered the world and separated.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Us from our creator.

Speaker 7 (26:56):
And so God took on the form of a man
and came down and lived among us, and he suffered like.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Men, and he died like a man.

Speaker 7 (27:06):
But on the third day he rose unlike any mortal man.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
And then.

Speaker 7 (27:13):
And to prove any doubters wrong, he ate with his
disciples so they could see, and they touched his wounds.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
He didn't rise as a ghost or as a spirit,
but his flesh.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
And then he rose to the heaven.

Speaker 6 (27:24):
But he promised he would return, and he will.

Speaker 7 (27:27):
And when he returns, because he took on that death,
because he carried that cross, we were freed from the
sin that separated us from him, and when he returns,
there will be a new heaven and a new Earth,
and we will all be together and we are going
to have a great reunion there again with Charlie and
all the people we loved.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Thank you and God bless you. So that was Marco Rubio.
That was the final speech there that he gave in
that regard. One thing that's amazing to me is if
you do a little bit of research, if you do
a little bit of digging, Okay, all you have to

(28:07):
do is it's very easy to find this. Okay. People
will try to say that Jesus wasn't God and he
was just a person, or any of this sort of stuff.
There are people who will deny that he even existed,
that he never existed. And to me, it's foolishness to

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even make that argument. And I'll tell you why, because
the Romans kept unbelievable records during the occupation of Israel.
They had absolutely absolutely records that they kept about people

(28:54):
go back and you know with Joseph and Mary and
the baby Gesus, you know that you know, they had
to be enrolled, they had to they had to go
to the uh to you know, spend time filling out
the information that was needed at that at that stage
of the game. And so it is it is an

(29:17):
abject truth that Jesus was who he was, number one,
number two. It is an abject truth that people saw
him after after he was resurrected. And that's a very
important thing to think about. Why would any of the

(29:37):
apostles go to their death for a fake or a
phony if that didn't really happen. Why why wouldn't they
Why wouldn't they just say, oh, you know, he didn't
come back, I'm out of here. Like you think about
the logic of this, and so you have to believe

(29:58):
that either the Romans lied right that there was no crucifixion,
there was, there was no burial in the cave, there was.
I mean, you just go down the list. It's a
remarkable thing to think about. It is a remarkable thing

(30:20):
to understand and to get these are real things that
really did happen. Just think about the trajectory of the
Christian religion two thousand years, two thousand years plus. Nobody's

(30:45):
going to go around and push a phony thing and say, ah,
that didn't really happen. None of that happened. It did,
and it's so much easier to just believe that that
this is all all real and that you are going
to go to a better place at the end of
your life. And as long as you are somebody who

(31:07):
is a believing person. Here's the thing. You can choose
either direction you want to go, and you know what's
so incredible, God will give you what you want. Good batter, indifferent,
It'll give you exactly what you want. All Right, I'm

(31:28):
gonna do this Adam Shift story coming up next. You
guys have to hear this story. It's unbelievable. News Talk

(31:52):
eleven ten, not a nine to three WBT. It's the
Brett Winterbow Show. Okay, So, if you had not heard yet,
Disney is returning Kimmel to TV tomorrow night.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Now.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
I don't know what this is gonna look like. I
don't know. There's a very small part of me, very small,
like a tiny part of me that says, okay, this
was a stunt to try to gin up numbers that
he They said to him, Okay, we're gonna quote unquote
suspend you and then and then you're you're gonna you're

(32:25):
gonna come back like he didn't do any TV interviews.
He didn't do any interview, didn't do any radio interviews.
I feel like this might be like a put on.
I'm just I'm a little suspicious of this because, of course,
none of that would ever happen in the world of entertainment.
There would be no hype in entertainment, right, it's impossible.

(32:47):
We are waiting for the uh, the announcement that's coming
from the White House. President Trump teased it yesterday saying
it was about autism and a scene to minifin and vitamins,
and so he said that that storyline was going to emerge,
and we are waiting for this announcement. We're supposed to

(33:09):
to kick off at four o'clock. It is now four
to six, and we haven't got anything in this regard
as this is happening. So we'll keep an eye on that.
We'll monitor that will monitor Kimmel. No, I don't no,
I don't know. I don't think he's gonna be funny tomorrow.

(33:29):
I think he's gonna probably be really serious and a
lot of ranting and yelling that that's my guess, but
could be wrong. Everybody's got the right to their own opinion.
And you have a right to my opinion. I have
a right to your opinion. Sometimes I'll just grab your opinion.
I'll just be like, you know what, you have a
better opinion than I have, So I'm gonna take yours.
I'm going to confiscate it. I'm going to confiscate your opinion,

(33:50):
and I'm going to utilize it as I see fit.
You know what I see fit, I see Tara wanting
to jump on here. Tara, welcome to the program.

Speaker 8 (34:00):
Hey, so my question, because you're so intelligent, why do
the liberals lash out?

Speaker 2 (34:07):
I know the answer. They don't have faith. Yeah, I
have to lash out.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
I think that's I think that's some of it. I
think that is some of it. I hope they don't.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
Just let me expand a little bit on one of
the go ahead.

Speaker 8 (34:25):
Okay, So I listened to podcasts, murder podcasts.

Speaker 9 (34:29):
I love them. There's a hilarious couple.

Speaker 8 (34:32):
But all they did was cry about how Charlie Hay.

Speaker 10 (34:36):
As homosexuals and transgender.

Speaker 8 (34:39):
They took the snippets they never ever.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
This woman was crying on.

Speaker 9 (34:45):
The podcast and she said, if.

Speaker 8 (34:47):
You don't if you don't agree with me, why.

Speaker 10 (34:50):
Are you listening?

Speaker 5 (34:51):
And you know what, that's God's.

Speaker 9 (34:53):
Telling me, why am I listening to you?

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Turned it off?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Got them off my feed?

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yep, it was. It's interesting to think that people would
know if somebody hates somebody like I hate is like
hate is like the the ultimate sort of thing, right,
I mean, it's like you would be like, oh my god,
I hate you know, like, for example, I hate I
hate Osama bin Laden, right, because he attacked on nine
to eleven, for example, And I had people in my

(35:21):
life that that lost their lives in that horrible attack.
But how how could anybody who doesn't directly know these people,
how would they know that they hate? I mean, and
that and that's the thing that I think is very tricky, Tara.
I think the idea that you would hate somebody that
you don't know and have not seen. Obviously, Osama bin

(35:45):
Laden is a different situation because he put together that
attack that killed so many people and lost us so
many lives. I could understand that in terms of the hatred.
And now I know him being a bad person, right,
I'm being a bad person because I shouldn't have to.
I shouldn't hate anybody. But you know, that's that's the

(36:06):
that's the difficulty with all of this. We're all we're
all human. We're fallible, right, We're not infallible. We're all
fallible people. We're all falling people. We have to do
our best every day to try to to try to
get to the right place that we need to go.
And so you know, that's that's the that's the massive

(36:27):
challenge that we're dealing with. And so I I, you
know what, And just to make one other point, and
I'm not judging anybody, and I'm not hammering anybody. I
get freaked out with like Murder podcast, Like I just
feel like I don't I don't wanna. I don't want

(36:47):
to know like the terrible things that human beings can do.
It's just it's it's like a tough thing, you know.
It's like a it's like a really really tough, uh
sort of a of a thing when you're out there
doing the stuff. And and and so I just I
wonder about that kind of stuff, you know. I just
I just I just wonder. A heavy metal band has

(37:11):
staged an assassination of Donald Trump musk and decapitation at
a Chicago concert. Not even gonna name him, not even
gonna acknowledge them, just gonna let them go to infamy. Uh,
this is this is a couple of other stories, uh
that are out there now. Ted Cruz likens the FCC

(37:33):
chairman Brendan Carr to a mafia boss after Jimmy Kimmel
was canceled. But wait a minute, Ted Senator Ted Cruz,
he's coming back to TV. Do you still hate Brendan Carr?
Do you still not like that guy? Because I mean,

(37:53):
let's be honest, this this is the sort of stuff
that is uh, that is happening out there. ICE as
a gotten a lot of negative publicity as it relates
to people who are wearing scarves on their faces.

Speaker 6 (38:08):
Right.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
ICE arrests criminal illegal aliens with sexual assault, robbery, manslaughter,
human trafficking convictions as well. And still still you're going
to have Gavin Newsom trying to enforce the new law
in the state of California that prohibits ICE officers from

(38:32):
wearing masks. He did this over the weekend. What is
so interesting is how the federal government reacted. The US
Attorney in Los Angeles sent a very short message to
Gavin Newsom at all right, all of the people who

(38:54):
are all up and excited about unmasking the Ice officers
and do you know what? Do you know what it said?
It said, you have absolutely no jurisdiction over the Ice officers.
It is a strictly federal issue. You can do nothing
about it, and you will like it. Okay, he didn't
say you will like it, but he did say you

(39:16):
will do nothing about it because you can't. You don't
have that kind of juice, Gavin, You just got to
understand News Talk eleven time out An I'm three WBT. Obviously,
we're waiting for this announcement to come out of the
White House. We have not yet heard or seen any

(39:36):
of it at this stage of the game. And I
think some of this is because it's you know, President
Trump time is what you know, He's on his own
clock and we're waiting to see what the announcement is
going to be and how it is all going to
come to pass. In the meantime, we're more than happy
to take your calls. I've gotten some very very nice feedback.

(39:57):
I've gotten some very interesting feedback as well, and I'll
share it with you as as we get closer and
closer to other things that we're going to be talking about. Uh,
but again, I want to go back to the story
of what It's just it's remarkable. So Adam Schiff and

(40:18):
Tim Kine are working together to try to stop President
Trump from stopping illegal narcotics, Okay, and and they want
to try to put him in a box where he
can't take action, and and and and and shift. You know,
I I don't know, Maybe maybe somebody in this audience

(40:41):
can explain to me, what what is the deal with
Adam Shiff, Like, who is Adam Shiff to be this
guy that wants to just consistently harass policy. It's it's
almost like, you know, but I'm not going to I'm
not going to use the analogy. I'm not going to

(41:02):
do it because it's it's it's going to be something
that's not that's not appropriate for most for most folks. Okay,
So let me go and look at this here, Trump
says third strike launched on alleged narco trafficking boat. President
Trump said on Friday that he ordered another strike on
a ship in the Caribbean allegedly transporting narcotics, the third

(41:27):
such one this month. On my orders. The Secretary of
War ordered a lethal kinetic strike on a vessel affiliated
with a designated terrorist organization conducting narco trafficking in the
US southcom Area of responsibility. Trump wrote in a Friday
post on social media, claiming intelligence confirmed the vessel was

(41:52):
trafficking illicit narcotics. Trump ordered and the military carried out
similar strikes on September two and September fifteenth in the
Caribbean as part of the effort to stop these drugs
from coming in. Here experts have accused okay, who are
the experts? Who are the experts? Here we go? Experts

(42:15):
have accused the administration of violating international law by effectively
executing individuals on the boat without due process or of
any proof of an immediate threat to the country. Who's
Who's the guy? Adam Shifty Shift? Tim Kaine this week

(42:36):
introduced a new resolution under the War Powers Act that
would stop the US military strikes against boats from Venezuela.
What about boats from some other country? This is just
going to be Venezuela, is Could it be boats off
of Cursow? Could it be some other place? How would

(42:59):
this be?

Speaker 2 (43:01):
So?

Speaker 1 (43:01):
When when when we look at this, right, when we
when we look at this and we try to make
sense of all this sort of stuff, Right, Why is
it that Adam Schiff is always on the side of
not America. Why is that the case? He always wants

(43:24):
to see America weakened, Like I would love to see
the Adam Schiff making America strong again sort of thing.
But he doesn't. What he does is he, over a
period of time, he and his cadre of people, uh,

(43:46):
including the Kimmi, the the the Kimmel hat wearing uh,
you know, entourage those folks. They don't want to see
narcotes going down to the bottom of the ocean. They
want them being out on the streets. It's the only
conclusion that I can come up with is that you

(44:09):
have Tim Kaine and you have Shifty Shift and they
both want more drugs coming into the country. Now, why
would we do that? Do we want more people dying?
There's only one other possibility, and it's a possibility so ugly,
too ugly to even fathom. Hypothetically, here's a hypothetical question. Okay,

(44:38):
is it possible that there are people in the House,
in the Senate who are getting a ig, who are
getting a little kickback for not being the people that
they should be to protect people from dangerous narcotics coming
into people's houses. I mean, what else is it. I'm

(44:59):
not saying I'm not saying Adam Shiff, I'm not saying
Tim Kaine, I'm not saying anybody. But is it possible
that we have a column of people who are benefiting
from this? Now here's the rub, speaking of Tim Kaine
and at Adam Schiff, here's the rub. Okay, and this,

(45:26):
this is this is just so so bad. These these
two guys have people who are dying in their jurisdictions.
You have people dying in California from drugs. You have
people dying all over around around the country from drugs.
And I'm sure there are people who are losing their
lives there in in in Virginia as well. Why why

(45:51):
don't they want to stop this? Why don't they want
an interdiction? But here's the bright side. Here's the bright side.
This guy called Richard Grinnell. You know who Richard Grennell is.
He used to be the national security advisor, one of
the national security advisors for President Trump in the first
term of the presidency. Well well, well, just a couple

(46:18):
of days ago, a letter was sent to the White
House from Nicholas Maduro. Nicholas Maduro is basically saying I
want to talk. I want to have a conversation. So
what happened Rick Grennell, who's not an official emissary, went

(46:39):
and talked with him, and from what it appears to
be is we've sunk three of these boats. We've sent
a bunch of dope down to the bottom of the ocean,
where no doubt by now we've got a mass overdose
of of of little Critchie reach down at the bottom

(47:00):
of the ocean. And what we've now got going on
now is Meduro saying, you know what, I want to talk.
I want to talk. I want to talk to the president.
You guys can't keep synking my stuff. Why would that
be a factor? Why would that be important to Nicholas Maduro,
Because everybody's got a boss, even a boss like Nicholas Meduro.

(47:23):
Over there in Venezuela, he's got a boss. It's called
the cartels, and he's probably sweating it. More to Coom
News Talk eleven, ten ninety nine three WBT Brent Winterbull Show.

(47:47):
Yesterday at the memorial for Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson showed
up and Tucker Carlson very very interesting take that he had,
and I want to share this. It's about three and
a half minutes long, but it's worth hearing if you
didn't hear it the first time, and it's worth rehearing

(48:08):
right now.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Go.

Speaker 11 (48:10):
But the main thing about Charlie and his message, he
was bringing the Gospel to the country. He was doing
the thing that the people in charge hate most, which
is calling for them to repent. So how is Charlie's
message different? And Charlie was a political person who was

(48:32):
deeply interested in coalition building and getting the right people
in office because he knew that vast improvements are possible politically.
But he also knew that politics is not the final answer.
It can't answer the deepest questions. Actually, that the only
real solution is Jesus.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
And the reason it's really simple.

Speaker 11 (48:59):
Politics at its core is a process of critiquing other
people and getting them to change. Christianity the gospel message,
the message of Jesus, begins with repentance. Christianity calls upon
you to change our core prayer given to us by Jesus,

(49:23):
the Lord's prayer, demands that we forgive other people. But
preceding that is a request for our forgiveness, in other words,
forgive us our sins, meditate on what we've done wrong,
how we've fallen short, and then it becomes possible to
forgive other people. That is a call to change our

(49:44):
hearts from Jesus, and that is the only way forward
in this country. That is the only solution to where
we all know we're going. And Charlie knew where we
were going without that. And that is not a call
for being politically passive of co I stood in many
stages with Charlie calling for various people to be elected,
particularly Donald Trump, and I'm proud of that. It's only

(50:08):
an acknowledgement that what Charlie was really saying is that
change begins, the only change that matters. When we repent
of our sins, we meet a recognition that the real
problem is me and how fallen I am. And that

(50:28):
was the reason that Charlie was fearless at all times,
truly fearless to his last moment. He was unafraid, he
was not defensive, and there was no hate in his heart.
I know that because I've got a little hate compartment
in my heart, and I would often express that to
Charlie about various people, and he would always say, always

(50:49):
say that's a sad person, that's a broken person. That's
a person who needs help, that's a person who needs Jesus.
He said that in private because it so I guess
I would just say, this gathering and God's presence, God's
very obvious presence in this room, The presence of Jesus
is a reminder of what we've known for two thousand years,

(51:13):
which is any attempt to extinguish the light causes it
to burn brighter every single time.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
So as we.

Speaker 11 (51:28):
As we proceed into whatever comes next, and clearly something's
coming next, remember this moment. Remember being in a room
with the Holy Spirit humming like a tuning fork. This
is the way right here, this is the way, and

(51:48):
that is what Charlie Kirk was saying underneath it all.
Thank you and God bless.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Terry.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Welcome to the program. What's on your mind today?

Speaker 12 (51:58):
Hey Brayna, call again.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
How you doing buddy?

Speaker 12 (52:03):
I'm doing good.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
Do you remember me?

Speaker 1 (52:05):
You come on?

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Absolutely? You know. I always I have to remind you
from time to time that you were You were the
first call that I ever took when I was filling
in on WBT. I remember, I remember, remember.

Speaker 12 (52:19):
I got a little diddy.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Oh.

Speaker 12 (52:22):
I remember when Bobby Kennedy was shot in nineteen sixty eight,
and there was a phone that came out, and I
would like to put another verse to it.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Okay, really.

Speaker 12 (52:44):
Has anybody he.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
Femo?

Speaker 12 (52:48):
Friend, Charlie, can you tell me when he's gone?

Speaker 5 (52:58):
He spoke of freedom to speak, our man, to have
dad to help all man.

Speaker 12 (53:11):
Time that I just turned around and he was going,
I bet he will ever be forgotten.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
That's right, he will not. I appreciate you calling in today.
It's it's it's it's wonderful to hear hey.

Speaker 12 (53:30):
I know you like I don't listen.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
To Okay, so then I'm gonna have to start summoning you.
I'll be like, Okay, if if Terry's out there, man,
I need a diddy, you know that's it.

Speaker 12 (53:42):
Okay, you're the man, dude. Yeah, okay, thank.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
You, thank you.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
That's Terry. I was wondering about Terry. It's been a while.
I thought it was something I said. I thought it
was something that I was wearing. I don't know. We
are still waiting the four o'clock announcement At four forty one.
The four o'clock announcement is forty. I imagine that they're

(54:09):
probably they probably got a lot of seats, they got
to fold out, they got to put the seats in
the right spot, and all this kind of stuff. I
just look, I this is what I think is happening.
I really do. I'm serious. I think that is. I
think it's well, look, a lot of things have happened

(54:34):
in these last like ten days.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Right.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
I didn't even get into the whole Elon Musk thing yet.
You know, Elon Musk was there. Elon Musk and President Trump.
Remember they were practically at each other's throats just a
few months ago, and what do what do you see
now they're together. Now they were having a whole conversation.
They were doing all kinds of stuff. There were They

(55:04):
were very convivial. It wasn't one of these things where
it was like, you know, you're just gonna be perfunctory
and just be like, okay, hello, nice to see you.
Get away from me. These these guys were talking. These
guys were talking. Can you imagine you imagine you had
you had Erica forgiving the man who took her husband's life. Right,

(55:30):
think about that for a minute, and as a byproduct
of that moment, a breach is repaired, having Elon Musk
and Donald Trump talking to each other again in a
very serious way. I mean, this is this is a

(55:53):
big deal. Ray, welcome to the program. What's on your mind?

Speaker 12 (55:59):
Hello?

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Hello, Ray, welcome?

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Hey, Hey, I wanted to talk about what you were
talking about right before you took the break about people
in people in DC maybe getting a dig or I
knew exactly where you were going with that before you

(56:21):
even said it. It's like I knew where you were going.
So this bill that they are trying to propose about,
you know, not being able to use the military to
take out boats, well I got I got a seventy

(56:42):
foot sport fisherman yacht and so we go out. So
what's so, who's to stop them.

Speaker 12 (56:51):
From taking my boat out?

Speaker 2 (56:54):
And you know I'm coming up from the south. Who's
to say that I'm not gonna get targeted?

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Well? I don't know? Do you do you?

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Do you? I know?

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Do you know? Do you habitu?

Speaker 2 (57:09):
The answer?

Speaker 1 (57:10):
What is the answer?

Speaker 2 (57:12):
The answer is because they already know that these boats
are small ships, that's right, have something on them. My
little seventy foot US registered yacht Holy is not on
their radar.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Sure, yeah, that's true. And and so there is there
is actionable intel that these people can rely on. Those
kinds of boats are very special and and and they're
designed to do the thing that they need to do. Right.
They're not gonna take you out. They're gonna take.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Them out, of course not they're not gonna. Now they
may board me, but they're not gonna take me out,
or they're not gonna take that chance.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Okay, Or here's an even scarier phenomenon. How do we
know that they're not gonna go and grab your boat
and they're going to be using that because it looks
much different than that that panga style, but it's I
know it's not panga. But you know what I'm saying.
I'm looking at that and I'm going, oh, maybe they're
doing maybe they're gonna take your boat, or maybe they

(58:15):
stash it in your boat. And you don't even know that.
This is all the craziness of this, and you know
it's going down a rabbit hole. But the fact of
the matter is you're spot on with what you just said.
Because the guys who know and we've got informants, I'm
sure on the ground in that country, and that's probably

(58:36):
something that's being very effective right now.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
You can buy anybody off great stuff. Thank you Ray
for calling. You're a great call. Thanks. Yeah. News Talk
eleven ten out of nine three WBT. The President is
speaking alongside doctor Oz and Bobby Kennedy, and he is
talking about the underlying causes for potentially for autism.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
He's been talking about Taiwan all uh as a as
a factor. Our our our microphone is there.

Speaker 13 (59:17):
Let's listen something that when you when you go from
all of those you know, healthy babies to a point
where I don't even know structurally if a country can
afford it. And that's the least of the problems. To
have families destroyed over this is just so so terrible.
I also, uh, and we've already done this. We want

(59:40):
no mercury in the vaccine. We want no aluminum in
the vaccine. The MMR I think should be taken separately.
This is based on what I feel the mumps, measles,
and and all the three should be taken separately. And

(01:00:01):
it seems to be that when you mix them there
could be a problem. So there's no downside in taking
them separately. In fact, they think it's better, so let
it be separate. The chicken pox is already separate because
when that got mixed in, I.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Guess they made it four For a while it really
was bad. So they make.

Speaker 13 (01:00:20):
Chicken pox individually, they're okay. When you mix them, something
maybe happens. So there's no downside in doing it. It's
not like, oh, if you do it bad things, No,
it's only good side. And it may not have that
much of an impact, but it may have a big impact.
So let those be taken separately. And then hepatitis B

(01:00:43):
is sexually transmitted. There's no reason to give a baby
that's almost just born hepatitis B. So I would say,
wait till the baby is twelve years old and formed
and take hepatite be. And I think if you do
those things, it's going to be a whole difference. It's

(01:01:05):
going to be a revolution in a positive sense.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
In the country.

Speaker 13 (01:01:09):
The FDA will be updating the label of an existing
drug to reflect potential benefits in reducing some autism symptoms symptoms.
This gives hope to the many parents with autistic children
that it may be possible to improve their lives.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
That's one of the things that I'm very very happy about.

Speaker 13 (01:01:28):
I mean, this was mostly going to be on how
not to have the child affect it. But we've learned
some pretty good things about certain elements of genius that
can be given to a baby, and the baby can
get better and in some cases maybe substantially better. Not

(01:01:52):
going to be easy, but it'd be a lot easier
if it didn't happen in the first place. As these
great parents fully understand, right, you fully understand. I feel
so terribly fair. I have so many friends with autistic children.
It's just it's a tough situation. Finally, to help reach
the ultimate goal of ending the autism fever, the NIH

(01:02:13):
will be announcing thirteen major grant awards from the Autism
Data Science Initiatives. Then, to be honest with you, to me,
that's the least important. It's not even a money thing
at this point. There's so much money. But they have
to do and they have to move quickly. When the
alternative is that nothing bad can happen, Let's do it now.

(01:02:33):
I was just saying to Bobby and the group, let's
do it now. Nothing bad can happen. It can only
good happen, but with Thailand or don't take it. Don't
take it. And if you can't live, if your fever
is so bad, you have to take one. Because there's
no alternative to that. Sadly, first question, what can you

(01:02:54):
take instead? It's actually there's not an alternative to that.
And as you know, other of the medicines are absolutely
proven bad. I mean they've been proven bid with the
aspirins and the advils and others, right, and they've been
proven bad. So I'd like to ask Bobby to get
up to the podium and say a few words, and
then Dr Buddicheria and doctor McCarey, doctor Oz, doctor Fink,

(01:03:17):
followed by two incredible mothers that have experienced firsthand.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
We will continue to monitor this and a get more
of this on the other side of the break News
Talk eleven, ten ninety nine to three WBT. It is
the Brett Winterble Show. It is good to be with

(01:03:44):
you as we are are making sense of some of
the stuff that's being talked about here. President Trump and
RFK Junior and doctor Oz are all doing a availability
on the issue of autism and what they believed to

(01:04:04):
be the cause of it as as cdomtafin. We've got
our microphones there and I want to take it as
we go here.

Speaker 10 (01:04:13):
Go ahead and thank you President Trump, Thank you very much.
I'm proud to announce today that the NIH has launched
the Autism Data Science Initiative to turbocharged autism research, devoting
an additional fifty million dollars to the cause of studying autism.
Nearly two hundred and fifty research teams from across the
country applied, sent in their applications, and were peer reviewed

(01:04:35):
by the NIH review panels. The peer reviews chose the
thirteen best projects focused on root causes and therapies with
replication and validation studies to guarantee gold standard science. The
studies feature a new kind of science called exposomics, where
scientists consider environmental and medical factors, nutrition events during pregnancy

(01:04:56):
in combination with biology and genetics to answered vital questions.
Autism science like this, conducted in partnership with families and physicians,
is the best way to arrest and reverse the autism epidemic.
Autism spectrum disorder encompasses a very wide range of symptoms
ranging from mild difficulties with social interactions to profoundly autistic
children who experience severe disabil disabilities in speech and behavior.

(01:05:21):
Given this wide range of symptoms across the spectrum, it
seems certain that there will be a wide range of
biological contributors to explaining the cause. The great thing about
the new ANIH Initiative on Autism is that scientists will
use rigorous, advanced methods and causal inference, machine learning, organized
and other fresh approaches to the problem. The sharp rise
in the prevalence of autism deserves an urgent response by

(01:05:44):
the scientific community. As Bobby said, the nih has invested
a lot of money to study autism over the years,
but the research has not produced the answers that families
and parents of autistic children deserve and autistics children themselves deserve.
For too long, it's been taboo to ask some questions
for fear that scientific work might reveal a politically incorrect answer,

(01:06:05):
because if there's restricted folks in scientific investigations, the answers
for families have been similarly restricted, often pointing families to
behavioral therapies that don't work for every kid, or suggest
non modifiable genetic factors is the cause. But genetics alone
can't explain such a sharp rise in autism prevalence over
just a few decades. As the President said, in coming

(01:06:26):
months and years, as ania scientists learn more that can
help autistic children and their families, we won't delay like
scientists often like to do. I can say as a scientist,
myself is really tempting to delay, but you have to.
But in face of a problem like this, you have
to move fast. But we're telling that we will not
delay before telling American people about what we find, and
we will win the public trust with transparency and rigor. Already,

(01:06:49):
our broad and focus on autism research has pointed to
two items that will help families prevent and treat some
cases of autism. I'll leave the good news on these
two items to my close friends and colleagues, doctor McCarey
and doctor Oss. We've been working together closely on this
problem for the past six months, and our cooperation represents
an unprecedent collaboration with Secretary Kennedy's Department of Health Euthan Services,

(01:07:09):
and with President Trump. I'm delighted to introduce doctor Marty McCarey,
Commissioner the Food and Drug Administration, will tell you about
these announcements of practical help for families with autism.

Speaker 14 (01:07:20):
Great, thank you, Dr Barticharia, Mister President. This is the
start of a historic shift in medical culture. This administration
is working together to ask big questions about why our
nation's children are getting sick so fast, too often. Medicine
is doing small, little studies giving us answers. We already knew,

(01:07:41):
but we've got to make a difference. So you've given
us a charge to identify root causes, and we are
not going to stop so that we can end the suffering.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
We are watching.

Speaker 14 (01:07:50):
And if you've seen a kid with autism, with severe autism.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
It's hard to watch. Kids get frustrated.

Speaker 14 (01:07:57):
They get angry, they can be crying because they want
to speak and they can't speak. It's hard to watch,
and it may be entirely preventable. For an epidemiologist, that
child is an expanding statistic, but for a child, it
can be brutal to have autism. Today, the FDA is

(01:08:17):
taking action to update the label on a CETAMNAFIT and
sending a letter to all US doctors letting them know
about the risks in pregnancy. We now have data we
cannot ignore.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
There's a very large study.

Speaker 14 (01:08:30):
The Boston Birth Cohort with researchers that have from Johns Hopkins,
my former institution in Boston University, found quote unquote consistent
associations between the cenamtaf and pregnancy and autism. And the
Nurses Health study with researchers from Yale, Columbia and Harvard
looking at nine thousand kids, found that a cena metaphin

(01:08:51):
use in pregnancy was associated with neuro developmental disorders, and
four weeks ago, a Mount Signi Harvard study reviewed all
the existing literature and found the overwhelming body of evidence
points to an association. Sure, you'll be able to find
a study to the contrary. That's how science works. But

(01:09:11):
to quote the dean of the Harvard School of Public Health,
there is a causal relationship between prenatal aceta metafine use
and neurodevelopmental disorders of ADHD and autism spectrum disorder. We
cannot wait any longer. And honestly, there's been this perfunctory,

(01:09:31):
reactionary mindless practice in medicine. I learned it in medical
school and residency. Just treat all fevers, low grade fevers,
treat them with the cena menafin.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Why what are we doing?

Speaker 14 (01:09:42):
A study out of Hopkins actually showed that treating a
fever can prolong the duration of illness and a young kid.
Maybe that's because a fever is a body's natural way
of ridding an infection. When my wife was pregnant and
delivered our son a few months ago, they pushed her
to take a seat of benefit for a low grade fever.

(01:10:03):
She said no, and then they looked to me and
I said, absolutely new. I'm also here to announce good
news today.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
The FDA is.

Speaker 14 (01:10:14):
Filing a Federal Register notice to change the label on
an exciting treatment called prescription look of Orn so that
it can be available to children with autism. You know,
autism may also be due to a autoimmune reaction to
a full eight receptor on the brain, not allowing that
important vitamin to get into the brain cells.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
It's a fairly established mature pathway.

Speaker 14 (01:10:37):
Again, we have a duty to let doctors in the
public know we are going to change the label to
make it available. Hundreds of thousands of kids, in my opinion,
will benefit. One study found that with kids with autism
and chronic folate deficiency, two thirds of kids with autism
symptoms had improvement and some market improvement. Mister President, you

(01:10:57):
told us to do what's medically right, to go bold
and not worry about the corporations and the lobbyists.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
So that's what we're here doing today, Thank you, mister President.
So there you have it. The it's a it's a
fascinating development. There's gonna have to be a whole lot
of research and we'll certainly keep an eye on it
as well. News Talk eleven ten nine three WBT. Good

(01:11:31):
to be with you. All right, let's dive into a
couple other different stories as well. Everything is a fair
game from what we've talked about so far. And one
of the things that I'm I'm fascinated with right People
always say that it's fascinating. Is it really fascinating? Is
it actually fascinating? Depends? I think Tina is going to

(01:11:53):
be a fascinating caller. Tina, Welcome to the program. What's
on your mind?

Speaker 5 (01:11:57):
Hi for it?

Speaker 9 (01:11:58):
High Hi. So you know how I've been grieving and
how I feel and I've been praying for the entire
world and the United States. But we discussed Charlie the
day after he was murdered and how my heart was broken. However,
you know, everyone listened to the memorial service, I'm sure yesterday, and.

Speaker 12 (01:12:23):
The most moving, of course, was Erica.

Speaker 9 (01:12:25):
Saying, my husband wanted to save young men just like
the one who murdered him. But then she said, our
savior on the cross said Father forgive them, and that
she forgave the man, the young man that took her
husband's life. But that was just a tremendous, tremendous I mean,
that was absolutely fascinating.

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
But what I found fascinating.

Speaker 9 (01:12:50):
That our president said that I wasn't aware of that
when Charlie, Charlie Kirk was in high school, that he
was the captain of the basketball team and the quarterback
of the football team, and every day at lunch he
would listen to our Rush Wimby. Yeah, And I just
thought that was absolutely fascinating that I Rush influenced our

(01:13:14):
Rush's legacy.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
Yes, you know, influence one.

Speaker 9 (01:13:17):
Of the greatest Christian conservative influences, influencers, excuse me of
our times. And I was asking, I'm not sure who
took my call, but so Charlie, being thirty one, I
guess that would have been what thirteen fourteen, fifteen.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Yeah, that's what that's what that's said that that would
be about the time period where that would be. And look,
there were a lot of when I was so I
was with Rush from ninety five until all the way
to two thousand and six, okay, and working with him
and seeing him. He loved when a young person would

(01:13:59):
call in and ask him questions and and he would
he would just be so excited when he had the
ability to have that conversation, especially like on Open Line
Friday and things like that, because he knew that he
was shaping a lot of the the politics of the future.

(01:14:20):
And and what we've now just seen right would be uh,
this is this is the extension of that. I remember.
I think it was the night I think it was
the night that he was that he was assassinated or
the day after. And Laura Ingram Uh did a did
a wonderful interview with a couple of the guys, Benny

(01:14:42):
Johnson and and uh Uh Pisobach, and they they were
talking about this and they showed the video of him
when when Rush met uh uh Kirk for the first time,
and he was very enthused and he was very excited.
Rush had a very big heart for young people coming up.

(01:15:06):
He really didn't even not necessarily on the air, but
talking to them and things like that. And he really
enjoyed that energy that was coming through because I think
it mirrored a lot of his growing up with his
dad and his family. And and I know, I know
for sure that that you know this, this is this

(01:15:30):
is the thing that was driving for him in a
big way, because the future is the future, and you
want to make sure that we're not going to have
young skulls full of mush bailing out on conservative values
and such.

Speaker 9 (01:15:43):
So I'd never I'd never realized that. So was that
on the Ingram angle or.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
Yeah, it was, it was, it was I think it
was the Ingram Angle that it was either the day
the night of, or the day after. I want to say, uh,
it might have been the day the day that he
that he was killed, and and it was Look, look
it's it's it's a shocking. It's a shocking. We we

(01:16:10):
are not, thank god, we're not used to as much
violence as there is in our country. We are not
like a third world country where this happens all the
time on television and and everywhere else and all that
sort of stuff. Because I'll tell you I talked with
a lot of young people who were probably a little

(01:16:33):
bit on the younger side. I had a conversation with
a young man and we were talking about, of all things,
about martyrdom, and he he said to me, I said,
can you think of an example of martyrdom And he said, yeah,
Charlie Kirk, and that is that is and that is
a person that's very tuned in in that regard, right.

(01:16:57):
And and it's the thing is that we don't want
to have happen is we don't want them to be
cynical moving forward. We want them to be warriors who
are joyous warriors who are going to be selling the
good news and the good stuff about this country. We
don't want them to sort of mirror what happened in
the nineteen sixties and nineteen seventies with these assassinations. Why.

Speaker 9 (01:17:21):
I'm a baby boomer, so I was raised in that era,
So I remember everything that happened in the sixties, and
it doesn't mirror that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
No, that's different.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Absolutely, Tina, Thank you so much for calling in today.

Speaker 9 (01:17:37):
All right, gret you have a great one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Here as well. God bless you as well. There was
a wonderful conversation, and it's a you know, this is
the opportunity you have because we have a lot of
people who are adults, and we have people who are
young adults, and we have people who even younger than
young young adults. And the important opportunity here is to

(01:18:02):
talk about this sort of stuff American exceptionalism.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
We always think back to that. I thought there was
just so many great moments yesterday, and it was it was,
it was sort of the thing that you would never
want to have happen again. But in the moment, what
we saw yesterday was something that was akin to such

(01:18:34):
light coming out of such darkness. Very interesting thing to see,
and as I said, I don't ever want to see
it again. But in that moment, I think one hundred
million streams people were affected by it, and it's a
very important thing to think about. News Talk eleven, ten,

(01:19:12):
ninety nine and three WBT Brett Wodable Show. Great to
be with you. Seven O four five seven zero eleven ten.
Let's jump out and take a call from Mary Anne.
Mary Anne, welcome to the program.

Speaker 8 (01:19:25):
Hey, Brad, I hope you're well.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
I am, Thank you very much. How are you?

Speaker 8 (01:19:29):
Yes, sir, I'm well, I just watched Charlie Kirk's ceremony,
his memorial service, and it likened itself to a Billy
Graham crusade.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
To me, Oh, how interesting, how so how would you
see that?

Speaker 8 (01:19:50):
I just thought it was beautiful, all of the music
and then some of the special speakers that he would
have that came to the point. And Billy Graham also
brought up political leaders that he respected, and they would
do that as well. And I really would have loved
to have seen it with such a beautiful service, but

(01:20:12):
I would have loved to have seen them open it
up with the pastors they had there to people making
a public profession of faith. And I guarantee you there
would have probably been people to come down to that
stage and we'll call it an altar. I know it
was the stadium, but there would have been people there
to give a public profession of faith and probably recommit

(01:20:34):
their lives to Christ. And it's gonna and it is
already all over reels and TikTok. They reached more people
yesterday than probably have been reached and quite some time.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
I think I think you're very very right there in
that regard. I remember when when we were when we
were so I used to be on Newsmax TV, okay,
and I was anchoring that day during the funeral for

(01:21:07):
Billy Graham, the Reverend Billy Graham. And one of the
numbers that always stuck with me, and it was it
was remarkable to think about this. So we're talking about
in this current age, the one hundred million streams, right
that there's that much that went out there. One of
the numbers, the estimated numbers for the Reverend Billy Graham.

(01:21:32):
He is estimated that he that he reached more people
than any other preacher in history, estimated to be two
hundred and fifteen million people in his lifetime. Like that
is wow, that is incredible. When you think about that
number and you think about the work that you have

(01:21:54):
to put in for that and and the faith and
all of that, it's just really it's just a remarkable
to see these two uh sort of uh, you know,
these two sort of experiences and and and I'm confident
that they are both enjoying a conversation today, uh together

(01:22:15):
and and I think that is something that's that's hugely important, you.

Speaker 8 (01:22:19):
Know, Oh absolutely, And there's no doubt in my mind
that Charlie had suffered with rush that night.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
Very very possible, Yeah, very possible. Absolutely. I can't I
can't vouch as to whether or not maybe a couple
of cigars, but you never know. And and that's that's, uh,
that's one of the great things. I I so so
appreciate you calling in on this. That's that's wonderful. Marian.

Speaker 8 (01:22:43):
Well, it's always my joy. It was tough to watch,
but it's very inspiring. Yes, And I just thought of
all the people that it's going to reach, and it's
I mean for years to come. Those reels are and
tiktoks are going to be out there.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Yes, a lot of people are.

Speaker 8 (01:22:57):
Going to come to Christ, but they're also going to.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Turn to the Conservative Party.

Speaker 8 (01:23:02):
Yes, and that's going to go hand in hand. And
that's going to change our political world as.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
We know it, no doubt about it at all. And
and look they're they're they're getting all kinds of requests, uh,
for for formation, for people to be able to do
their own uh sort of their own groups and this
sort of stuff. This is really important because I can
tell you this is a this is a change moment
in time. And I think looking at some of the

(01:23:29):
I'm gonna get into some of the politics here in
a minute, but the stats now are it's unbelievable what
we're seeing, and I think there is going to be
a big sea change, especially coming into twenty twenty six.

Speaker 8 (01:23:41):
Yeah, this will be the biggest movement of our generation
and two ahead of.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Us and two to come.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
That's exactly right, great stuff, Mary Anne, thanks so much
for being on the show today, my friend, the pleasure
with all mine. Thank you me as well. Absolutely, it
was so what was what people thought that would happen,
was that it was going to be an angry or

(01:24:08):
a thing, or it's gonna be people are gonna they're
gonna be cynical and all that you saw None of that.
You saw none of that. The the three funerals that
I public funerals right that that I that I remember

(01:24:28):
that that sticks out to me. The funeral for Ronald
Reagan uh in Semi Valley right there in in in
the uh in the amazing Reagan Library. That that was.
That was a phenomenal, phenomenal funeral. The way the world

(01:24:52):
beat a path to the door was really remarkable with
President Reagan. Billy Graham absolutely a very very important, important
figure that that was right in league with Ronald Reagan,

(01:25:13):
uh and and even beyond. And then I think what
we saw here with with the with with Charlie Kirks,
because of his youth and because of the compressed nature
of how much he did over that period of time,

(01:25:33):
you know, ten eleven years uh being being building and
building and building and building. That that that thing, that
accomplishment is going to stick with people for a very
long time. And I think people are gonna be reading
his his his stuff and understanding how it is because

(01:25:54):
each of these people that I just mentioned, right, these
were people who were mission right, they were on a mission,
but they were also joyful in many ways. You think
about that, you have to have that in you because

(01:26:15):
you want the best for everybody else out there. That's
that's the secret there, That's the magic there, that's the
commission there. Because you cannot win people over by browbeating
and yelling at them. You have to show them and

(01:26:36):
you have to demonstrate the joy that you have in
your in your soul.

Speaker 12 (01:26:44):
Radio changed our lives and the change our lives, changed
our lives.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
Change lives, it has all of it. News Talk eleven
ten now I'm three WBT Brett Winnable show. Good to
be with you, good stuff happening out there. Let's let's
take a let's take a peek at a couple of
things that you might have missed. Some things. Jimmy Kimmel
is gonna come back tomorrow night? What? No applause? No

(01:27:21):
applause for you people. That's that's not that's not the
way you want to kind of bring them back, man,
I mean, I don't know. It's kind of weird. What
else have we got taking a look at some of
the other stories that are that are out here as well.
Study shows UV light can disable airborne allergens within thirty minutes. Now,

(01:27:44):
don't be going and putting them in every room in
your house. And you know, you get we do not
need you to be making microwave popcorn with the UV light.
But yes, a study has shown that UV light can
disable airborne gins within thirty minutes. That's great. Now, that's
a useful thing that we can do. Here's another sort

(01:28:10):
of a useful sort of a thing for you to
have if you want a younger brain. Harvard researcher, I'm sorry,
Harvard researchers say eat like this. You know what they
want you to eat, A green Mediterranean diet rich in
green tea and manchi. I don't know what that is.

(01:28:33):
I wouldn't even know where to get the mankind. Is
it mankind? He was a heck of a wrestler. No,
it's mankind, it's manchi slowed markers of brain aging and
a major study. So eat your greens, eat that green
Mediterranean diet. Make sure you get that. Make sure you

(01:28:54):
get that. That was really dumb. I shouldn't have said mankind,
because now I just distracted myself by referencing mankind. He
was unbelievable though. I mean, come on, I got a
couple of I got a couple of wrestler fans in here,
and they're they're not co signing what I'm what I'm dealing. So,

(01:29:14):
so you want to eat this diet rich in green
tea and mankai slowed markers for brain aging in a
major study following a green Mediterranean diet which includes green
tea and the aquatic plant called manki. It's associated with

(01:29:36):
slowing brain aging. And plus you're eating a whole bunch
of like healthy stuff you do not need to, you know,
eat a bunch of junk food. You want to eat
stuff that's gonna be you know, edifying for you. It's
gonna make you feel really good. All that sort of
stuff that's that's something that's very important. And then I think,
you know, we all, I want all of you people
to be very healthy for a very long time because

(01:29:59):
I you know, I got I got, I got plans
for us here. Okay, so like everybody, let's be cool.
Let's let's let's take what we've gotten and make it happen.
NASA selected all American two twenty five class of astronaut candidates.
They've got ten new astronauts as they're chasing bold plans

(01:30:23):
for the Moon and Mars. Really, really, are we ignoring
the obvious thing? Are we ignoring that thing that's coming
our way from deep space that's on its way coming
this way? By the way, I read an article earlier today.
They think that the thing might be cloaked. They think, now,

(01:30:45):
I didn't even know what cloaking is until I thought
about it for me. So they're saying, they think this
this three eye three iye atlas, whatever it's called. They
think that that thing has got like it's like a
smoke show or and it's coming in, and but they
think it's a possibility that they're just doing a drive by,

(01:31:06):
like they're not gonna stop, and they're just trying to
see what we're up to. Okay, I'm telling you right now.
I'm telling you right now, that thing shows up and
gets close to us, you know what I'm gonna do,
I'm gonna swim in the warm water. I'm gonna go.

(01:31:26):
I'm just gonna go marinate in the warm water. I
know I said I would never do it, but you
know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna I'm gonna It's difficult.
I mean, it's really difficult because I'm being incredibly creative
in real time in my mind. And what I'm gonna
do is I'm gonna go in the I'll go in
the warm water. I know I said I wanted only

(01:31:47):
cold water. But what's the point. Let's take a shot,
Let's see what happens, Let's see how it works. Let's
eat some green tea, let's have all that sort of stuff,
and you know what, that thing comes comes close to
this planet, I'm gonna go get mankind. He'll handle him.
He knows what to do not really.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
Also, also finally, you can soar through forty four million
stars in the Gaya Telescope latest three D map of
our galaxy. I love all this stuff. I used to
hate space. I don't want to go to space, but
now I am endlessly curious about how all of this

(01:32:30):
stuff works, and I think that's an important thing. Now, remember,
remember you need to stick around, don't hang up, don't
go away, don't do any of this. You need to
be ready for breaking with Brett Jensen, and then you
gotta be sticking around for guess who who who TJ Richie,

(01:32:53):
It's been a real pleasure to be with you here today. Remember,
ladies and gentlemen, we live in the greatest country in
the entire world. We will remain free, prosperous, and happy
if you just put it in God's hands. News Talk
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