August 28, 2025 • 8 mins
Tune in here to this Thursday's edition of the Brett Winterble Show!
We're joined by Don Brown from North Carolina to talk about his U.S. Senate campaign and the issues he says are most pressing for the countryBrown emphasized his commitment to law and order, fiscal responsibility, and constitutional governance. He praised former President Trump’s policies and argued that America’s big cities are suffering due to weak leadership and misplaced priorities. Brown outlined three main campaign goals: tackling the exploding national debt through what he calls a “Deep State Reduction Act,” protecting medical freedom by ensuring no federal or employer mandates for vaccines, and restoring judicial balance by limiting what he sees as unconstitutional overreach from federal judges. He also addressed foreign policy, insisting that the U.S. military should only be used when national security is directly threatened. Brown encouraged listeners to learn more and support his campaign at https://brownfornc.com/.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Dud's Talk eleven, ten ninety nine three WBT. It is
the Brett Widerbules Show, and it is my pleasure to
welcome back to the program a man whose work I've
greatly admired for a very long time, and it is
Don Brown, who is a candidate for the US Senate
in North Carolina. He's fighting for that seat and I
want to welcome him here. Thanks so much for being
(00:31):
being with us here today.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Sir Brett. It's always an honor and a pleasure to
be with you in greeting tonight from the campaign. Till
and beautiful Richmond County, Rockingham, North Carolina. This road by
the speedway, it's going to be alive and buzzing again soon.
So and now to talk to you, it's gonna be
a great day. So thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Oh, it's my pleasure to have you here on the program. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
What Let's talk a little bit about what we're seeing
in the country right now. Obviously you're seeing American City.
He's having to deal with some pretty rough stuff. That
is certainly something I know you're a law and order guy,
or you're somebody who's who's passionate about that.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
When when you look at Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
And the turnaround that's happened over these last couple of days.
Your thoughts about this, don Well.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
It's still one of the most amazing things. President Trump's
policies have been mount Rushmore good. You know, some of
his you know, personnel selections have backfired on them, but
his policies have been better than anything we've seen. And miraculous.
Story of what we've seen in Washing and just in
the last few days is a testament of that. I
was on news Match yesterday talking about this very thing
(01:37):
because the President is now threatening or suggesting we need
to do federal troops into Chicago. This is not unprecedented
in American history. We have had presidents have to step
forward and send in federal troops to quell insirations and
to quell domestic violence. But I think it's high time
that we get these big, corrupt blue cities cleaned up.
I think what's happening in our nation's capital is a
(01:58):
great start. Even the Democrat mayor Muriel Bowser is having
to concede that we were seeing some improvement. So I
think he's on the step in the right direction, and
I'm sharing him on with this, I.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Mean hypothetically, like what is the upside to opposing law
and order in the streets?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I mean like that that makes no sense to me.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And whether it's Gavin Newsomb or Pritzker or any of
these other folks, I just can't.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I just can't understand it.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
There, sir well Brett, nothing makes sense if you try
to apply a logical prism to what the left is
up to, because if you apply logical prism, you think, well,
what they want is best for the country and what's
best for the streets. But what they want is power,
and so attacking the police, even though that means chaos ensuing,
is a route to power for them. I was watching
the Chicago they are I mean interviewed even by Joe
(02:44):
Scarborough who pressed him about three or four times would
you accept five thousand more, you know, policemen on the
State of Chicago, and then Mayor would dance around and
talk about social programs and talk about dumb psychologists who
are going to stand the tide of the crime wave there.
So it is about chaost for them. You have to
understand they are about in their mind in the country.
Their following saw Olenski's playbook. And so once we understand
(03:06):
that the enemy speaks English in these big blue cities
and elsewhere, we'll be better off because then we'll know
how to attack.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Let's say you are elected you let's say you become
the nominee and you are elected to the Senate coming
up in the next term. When when you look at
your priorities, what are they? What are the things that
you would like to work on?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
First, well, brother, there's so many things out there. You
just mentioned law in order, the streets, but there are
three things that we're hitting everywhere we go. One is
the exploding national debt. We've got to get under control.
We don't, We're going to lose the dollar. If we
lose the dollar, we will fall as fast as Britain
fail after after Bretton Woods. Every one, every great power
in the history of the war, whether the Romans with
the vinarreas the or the Spanish with the with the pace,
(03:53):
or the Brits with the pounds throwing and haad the
dominant currency. The dollar is teetering. And so I'm going
to push what I call a deep state reduction Act,
would call for a two thirds reduction and all federal
personnel that are not military and a two thirds reduction
in all the administrative agencies. Put all that money to
save the US dollar and the reduce the debt. You
got to attack the debt, and we haven't meaningfully done that.
(04:13):
So that's number one. Number two is medical freedom. We've
been through COVID. We saw what happened when they lied
to us about these jabs and lied to us about
these masks. This is a really red hot topic out there.
You know, my friend mister Whitley actually used the Republican
his positions Republican chair in North Contine to push the
JAB and we've seen people harm from it. So I'm
(04:35):
going to push for a vaccination, a mass protection action
that never again can either the federal government our surrogate
employers push experimental JAB into people's bodies. You know, jabs,
no microchips, know nothing. And the third thing is federal judges.
These judges are out of control. They are working outside
they're a constitutional authority. Federal seventy eight, written by Alexander Halilton,
(04:57):
stays very clearly that the judiciary could be the weakest
branch of government and it has no injunctive power over
the president or the Congress. So I'm gonna push what
I call a judicial separation of powers that will clip
the authority of these judges, which they don't have anyway
in the areas of a immigration and naturalization and being
the United States military. And those are the three big
points we're hitting, so a lot of other ones, but
that's what I'm gonna be carrying the torton.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
You know, we we we we we got the very
sad news of the unfortunate passing of retired US Army
Sergeant Michael Verado, a true American hero. In these last days,
what would you say to the to the people who
are clamoring to get us involved in in more uh
(05:40):
more adventurism, uh whether it's Ukraine, whether it's the Middle East,
what would you say or and how would you vote
in that regard? I know you're I know you're a hawk,
but you but I think again a feeling that that
you're somebody who's a very practical person in that regard.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
So, so what do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
What are the difference between being a hawk which I
am in President Reagan sense when he said that our
military should be so strong that no potential adversary should
ever test his strength versus being the policeman of the
war of the world like John Bolton and Lindsey Graham,
who President Trump's endorsed and others want to be. We
spent more than enough money on Ukraine. Anyway, We've got
a thirty seven trillion dollar national debt, and we should
(06:19):
not use the United States military unless the United States
national security is truly and immediately in periled. And so
there's a very very strict criteria that I personally would
have before I would support the United States military intervention anywhere.
I want us to have the biggest stick in the world,
like you know, like Teddy Roosevelt said, speak softly and
carry a big stick. You know, that's fine with me.
(06:39):
I want to if it's the best military equipment, but
I don't want us to use it unless we are
truly in danger and our nice of security is truly
a stake. God bless the staff stargeant to just passed away.
He gave his life for his country, and we're in
prayer for his family. I did not know him personally,
I'm aware of him, but the sad situation, and whenever
one of our soldiers falls, we remember that the that
(07:00):
this freedom was paid for with blood and with sweat
and with sacrifice. And that's one of the reasons I'm
running because we've got to fight to save this constituent
republic and status quo even status coo republicanis and won't
get the job done. We've got to take the war
to the battle of the United States Senate, to the
United States Congress and restore constitutional order as it was intended.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Where do people go to support you?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Where do they reach out to get more information on
your positions, your thoughts and things like that?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
You got Our website is Brown four n C, BROWNRNC
dot com, Brown four Inc dot com. Come on there,
our position papers are there. We love to have folks
shipping and help the campaign. You can correspond with us
through that. I try to respond to every email all
that I can and correspond with voters all that we can.
And it's our state, it's our US Senate seat, and
(07:50):
it's our constitution republic. If we don't stand for this
constitution republican fight for it, we're going to lose it.
We got to do this together, we the people. As
James Madison wrote in the preamble.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Look, you are a You are a great patriot.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You are somebody that loves this country, and I and
I and I think you would be a phenomenal senator.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Lord knows that.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
We need all the good people with good measure uh
there in the in the Senate and in the House,
but especially in the Senate. Thanks so much for being
here on the program. We really do appreciate you being here,
and I look forward to having more conversations.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
With you, My friend an honor as always Brett, Hello
to all my friends at BT. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You got it, absolutely, it's a promise.
Dud's Talk eleven, ten ninety nine three WBT. It is
the Brett Widerbules Show, and it is my pleasure to
welcome back to the program a man whose work I've
greatly admired for a very long time, and it is
Don Brown, who is a candidate for the US Senate
in North Carolina. He's fighting for that seat and I
want to welcome him here. Thanks so much for being
(00:31):
being with us here today.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Sir Brett. It's always an honor and a pleasure to
be with you in greeting tonight from the campaign. Till
and beautiful Richmond County, Rockingham, North Carolina. This road by
the speedway, it's going to be alive and buzzing again soon.
So and now to talk to you, it's gonna be
a great day. So thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Oh, it's my pleasure to have you here on the program. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
What Let's talk a little bit about what we're seeing
in the country right now. Obviously you're seeing American City.
He's having to deal with some pretty rough stuff. That
is certainly something I know you're a law and order guy,
or you're somebody who's who's passionate about that.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
When when you look at Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
And the turnaround that's happened over these last couple of days.
Your thoughts about this, don Well.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
It's still one of the most amazing things. President Trump's
policies have been mount Rushmore good. You know, some of
his you know, personnel selections have backfired on them, but
his policies have been better than anything we've seen. And miraculous.
Story of what we've seen in Washing and just in
the last few days is a testament of that. I
was on news Match yesterday talking about this very thing
(01:37):
because the President is now threatening or suggesting we need
to do federal troops into Chicago. This is not unprecedented
in American history. We have had presidents have to step
forward and send in federal troops to quell insirations and
to quell domestic violence. But I think it's high time
that we get these big, corrupt blue cities cleaned up.
I think what's happening in our nation's capital is a
(01:58):
great start. Even the Democrat mayor Muriel Bowser is having
to concede that we were seeing some improvement. So I
think he's on the step in the right direction, and
I'm sharing him on with this, I.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Mean hypothetically, like what is the upside to opposing law
and order in the streets?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I mean like that that makes no sense to me.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And whether it's Gavin Newsomb or Pritzker or any of
these other folks, I just can't.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I just can't understand it.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
There, sir well Brett, nothing makes sense if you try
to apply a logical prism to what the left is
up to, because if you apply logical prism, you think, well,
what they want is best for the country and what's
best for the streets. But what they want is power,
and so attacking the police, even though that means chaos ensuing,
is a route to power for them. I was watching
the Chicago they are I mean interviewed even by Joe
(02:44):
Scarborough who pressed him about three or four times would
you accept five thousand more, you know, policemen on the
State of Chicago, and then Mayor would dance around and
talk about social programs and talk about dumb psychologists who
are going to stand the tide of the crime wave there.
So it is about chaost for them. You have to
understand they are about in their mind in the country.
Their following saw Olenski's playbook. And so once we understand
(03:06):
that the enemy speaks English in these big blue cities
and elsewhere, we'll be better off because then we'll know
how to attack.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Let's say you are elected you let's say you become
the nominee and you are elected to the Senate coming
up in the next term. When when you look at
your priorities, what are they? What are the things that
you would like to work on?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
First, well, brother, there's so many things out there. You
just mentioned law in order, the streets, but there are
three things that we're hitting everywhere we go. One is
the exploding national debt. We've got to get under control.
We don't, We're going to lose the dollar. If we
lose the dollar, we will fall as fast as Britain
fail after after Bretton Woods. Every one, every great power
in the history of the war, whether the Romans with
the vinarreas the or the Spanish with the with the pace,
(03:53):
or the Brits with the pounds throwing and haad the
dominant currency. The dollar is teetering. And so I'm going
to push what I call a deep state reduction Act,
would call for a two thirds reduction and all federal
personnel that are not military and a two thirds reduction
in all the administrative agencies. Put all that money to
save the US dollar and the reduce the debt. You
got to attack the debt, and we haven't meaningfully done that.
(04:13):
So that's number one. Number two is medical freedom. We've
been through COVID. We saw what happened when they lied
to us about these jabs and lied to us about
these masks. This is a really red hot topic out there.
You know, my friend mister Whitley actually used the Republican
his positions Republican chair in North Contine to push the
JAB and we've seen people harm from it. So I'm
(04:35):
going to push for a vaccination, a mass protection action
that never again can either the federal government our surrogate
employers push experimental JAB into people's bodies. You know, jabs,
no microchips, know nothing. And the third thing is federal judges.
These judges are out of control. They are working outside
they're a constitutional authority. Federal seventy eight, written by Alexander Halilton,
(04:57):
stays very clearly that the judiciary could be the weakest
branch of government and it has no injunctive power over
the president or the Congress. So I'm gonna push what
I call a judicial separation of powers that will clip
the authority of these judges, which they don't have anyway
in the areas of a immigration and naturalization and being
the United States military. And those are the three big
points we're hitting, so a lot of other ones, but
that's what I'm gonna be carrying the torton.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
You know, we we we we we got the very
sad news of the unfortunate passing of retired US Army
Sergeant Michael Verado, a true American hero. In these last days,
what would you say to the to the people who
are clamoring to get us involved in in more uh
(05:40):
more adventurism, uh whether it's Ukraine, whether it's the Middle East,
what would you say or and how would you vote
in that regard? I know you're I know you're a hawk,
but you but I think again a feeling that that
you're somebody who's a very practical person in that regard.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
So, so what do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
What are the difference between being a hawk which I
am in President Reagan sense when he said that our
military should be so strong that no potential adversary should
ever test his strength versus being the policeman of the
war of the world like John Bolton and Lindsey Graham,
who President Trump's endorsed and others want to be. We
spent more than enough money on Ukraine. Anyway, We've got
a thirty seven trillion dollar national debt, and we should
(06:19):
not use the United States military unless the United States
national security is truly and immediately in periled. And so
there's a very very strict criteria that I personally would
have before I would support the United States military intervention anywhere.
I want us to have the biggest stick in the world,
like you know, like Teddy Roosevelt said, speak softly and
carry a big stick. You know, that's fine with me.
(06:39):
I want to if it's the best military equipment, but
I don't want us to use it unless we are
truly in danger and our nice of security is truly
a stake. God bless the staff stargeant to just passed away.
He gave his life for his country, and we're in
prayer for his family. I did not know him personally,
I'm aware of him, but the sad situation, and whenever
one of our soldiers falls, we remember that the that
(07:00):
this freedom was paid for with blood and with sweat
and with sacrifice. And that's one of the reasons I'm
running because we've got to fight to save this constituent
republic and status quo even status coo republicanis and won't
get the job done. We've got to take the war
to the battle of the United States Senate, to the
United States Congress and restore constitutional order as it was intended.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Where do people go to support you?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Where do they reach out to get more information on
your positions, your thoughts and things like that?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
You got Our website is Brown four n C, BROWNRNC
dot com, Brown four Inc dot com. Come on there,
our position papers are there. We love to have folks
shipping and help the campaign. You can correspond with us
through that. I try to respond to every email all
that I can and correspond with voters all that we can.
And it's our state, it's our US Senate seat, and
(07:50):
it's our constitution republic. If we don't stand for this
constitution republican fight for it, we're going to lose it.
We got to do this together, we the people. As
James Madison wrote in the preamble.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Look, you are a You are a great patriot.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You are somebody that loves this country, and I and
I and I think you would be a phenomenal senator.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Lord knows that.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
We need all the good people with good measure uh
there in the in the Senate and in the House,
but especially in the Senate. Thanks so much for being
here on the program. We really do appreciate you being here,
and I look forward to having more conversations.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
With you, My friend an honor as always Brett, Hello
to all my friends at BT. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You got it, absolutely, it's a promise.
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