Dr. John Lott On The Brett Winterble Show

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We're joined by Dr. John Lott from the Crime Prevention Research Center to talk about anti-Semitism and bias in crime reporting.

a recent report from the Anti-Defamation League that claims all extremist murders from 2022 to 2024 are committed by right-wing individuals. He questions the report’s accuracy, pointing out that some attackers listed have left-wing views or don’t fit any clear political category. He highlights the Buffalo supermarket shooter, who calls himself an “eco-fascist,” and the Colorado Springs shooter, who identifies as transgender and a socialist. Despite this, the ADL labels them as right-wing. Dr. Lott argues that this is done for political reasons, not based on facts. He also explains how media outlets like CNN and NPR repeat this narrative without looking deeper

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
And I am Brett Witterable. It's a pleasure to be
with you here today and on this great program, The
Brett Witterbull Show. I want to welcome to the program
somebody whose work I've admired for a very long time,
and I know he's he's very much in demand, especially
with the with the reporting that's coming out. And this
is John Lott, who joins us now today. John, thank

(00:28):
you so much, professor. It's great to have you here
on the program today.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Well, thanks for having me on. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
So we've got this anti Semitism report that's come out.
There are a lot of questions about this, and I
wanted to get your thought on on what it is
that we're seeing out here and and how it is
that we we have to be ready to, uh to
kind of take this apart and figure out what exactly
is going on. Can you can you give the folks

(00:55):
the thumbnail sketch?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Sure? Well, I mean it's much more the anti Semitism report,
And I assume you're talking about the Anti defamation lead
Anti Defamation Court on so called extremist murders where they
claim that in the three years from twenty twenty two
through twenty twenty four, all the extremist murders in the

(01:21):
United States were done by right wingers. Most of the
most of the cases that they include during that period
of time involve white supremacist types. But they you know,
it's about two thirds of the ones done during that time,
we're done by white supremacists. But they basically define anybody

(01:46):
who is a white supremacist as a right winner. And
it's just bizarre. I mean, you go through the cases,
you know, like some of the vast majority of them
only have one person killed. You'll have some buddy who's
like an Aryan Brotherhood person who basically is a gang
member who maybe killed a two year old girl that

(02:08):
he was sexually assaulting, or you know, an eleven year
old girl that was living on the property that was
sexually assaulted by another one. Or you know a gang
fight between two drug gangs where one of the gangs
members is an Aryan Brotherhood person. But you have the
more prominent cases, a few of them where multiple people

(02:31):
were killed, like the Buffalo supermarket shooting in twenty twenty two.
The ADL listed the person as a right wing extremist
because ten people were killed in that because he was
racist against blacks, but he was racist against blacks because

(02:53):
he was an environmentalist. He was upset that people were
having kids because he thought that having kids damnage the environment.
I'm sure we've heard similar comments from AOC for example,
But he was particularly upset with blacks because he thought
that they were having more kids than they should relative
to everybody else. And so he called himself things like

(03:14):
an eco fascist or a mild manner authoritarian leftist. He
hated companies because he thought that companies were quote destroying
the environment end quote. So you know, it's just bizarre
that even though the guy's himself calling himself a leftist,

(03:39):
the ADL wants to classify him as a right winger.
He have somebody like the gay bar shooting in Colorado
Springs in twenty twenty two. He's also classified as a
right winger because he attacked a gay bar. But they
ignore the fact that he was trance. He was an

(04:00):
individual who called himself he wanted to go buy the
pronouns they and them identified himself as a socialist. So
you know, I don't know I mean and the trans
person who I mean? Because there are conflicts between gays
and trans individuals. I don't know how that automatically makes

(04:21):
the person a right winger. And then there are other
cases that they just leave out of their lists. So
they want to claim that there's zero murders by people
on the left during those three years.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
What's the upside for them just to put up a
bunch of garbage, like what is this is it? Is
it just for the money? Is it just for the clicks?
I mean, why would they knowingly or purposely do this?

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, I think it's ideological. I mean, the person who
heads the Antidefamation League worked in the Obama administration, you know.
And you can see how this has been used on
CNN and and NPR and all sorts of other places
over the last couple of weeks because they you know,

(05:11):
we've had Charlie Kirk's murder, you have this attack at
the ICE facilities in Dallas. You've had other attacks. You
had just a week and a half ago, you had
this attack at the ABC studios in Sacramento, California by

(05:31):
an obvious leftists, And so they want to go and
claim that either this is a right wing problem. Really,
so CNN wants to go and deny that the guy
who did the attack on the ICE facilities was a leftist.
They just want to say, well, we don't know what
his views are, or they want to go and say

(05:54):
it's a problem on both sides. Yes, so oft in
the media will go and bring up the Minneapolis or
Minnesota state legislator who was murdered a couple months ago.
But you know, it's not like anybody was demonizing that.
And on top of that, you know, this guy who

(06:17):
did the killing had had hundreds of No Kings flyers,
that's right, his car, which was basically for advertising for
anti Trump rally, you know, because people on the left
want to claim that Trump is trying to be king
for sure, and his writings was that he was doing

(06:39):
the murders for Governor Tim Waltz.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
We appreciate this very much, the analysis that you've given us,
and I'm going to send a whole lot of people
to come and follow you and and and listen to
the stuff that you're talking about. Thank you so much,
John Lott. It's a pleasure to be with you. I'm
Brent Witterble. You're listening to the Brett Winable Show.