Epstein, Gangs, Politics, And More On The Brett Winterble Show

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Here's talk eleven ten now nine three WBT. My name
is Brett winter Bowl. I do talk radio seven oh
four five seven zero eleven ten. So sources, according to
the sources, they're at CNNNN sources, DOJ may release transcript
of Julane Maxwell interview. So we've got that. That's a thing.

(00:39):
I'm going to jump into this right out of the box,
and I'm I'm not in any way, shape or form
concerned by any of this. I say, just release everything,
dump it all out, let it all come out. Just
put it all out. Because the reality is the American

(00:59):
people understand that there are a whole lot of folk
who are going to be implicated in incredible ways. And
so I'm just saying, you know, I you guys, you
guys were pretty good about behaving yourselves when it came

(01:21):
to talking about the Epstein stuff. You know, we had
we had a couple of Kukula mukolas calling in a
couple of times. But but the fact of the matter is,
I just release everything, man, just like dump it all out.
And I know I know what you're saying. You're saying, No,
we can't dump it out, you know it, Just dump
it all it just get rid of it, put it out,
let the let the cards fall where they may. You

(01:43):
have a lot of stuff going on here, and it's
really bad for those on the left. I mean, it
is a really bad situation. Cash Patel is now on
the hunt for finding the people that helped the Texas
people escape. Last I checked, that's the FBI. The FBI
is now joining the chase of these wayward democrats in Alcatraz,

(02:10):
Land or Florida. Alcatraz Alcatraz in Florida. They are building
another Alcatraz in Florida to start locking people up who
are not supposed to be in the country. That's that's
something that's very interesting. And of course obviously we are
we are on on eternal watch for the Russia collusion stuff.

(02:31):
I heard Pete Callander talking about the situation with the
with the Russia collusion thing. Boy, I watched, I watched
all yesterday and all night the people on MSNBC and CNN,
they were near tears, they were near tears that this

(02:52):
is happening. And I think it is so fantastic. One
of the one of the best people who is going
to be sitting there and having to see all the
stuff that's coming is a person called Nicole Wallace. Once
upon a time, she was a toady and a lackey
for the Bush administration, and she was one of the

(03:14):
main drivers over at MSNBC when it came to pushing
the phony narrative of Trump being a part of Russian collusion.
And this is cut number fourteen. Nicole Wallace. She's practically
in tears as she reads this out at the very

(03:34):
end of her program yesterday cut fourteen.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Please Good Mornings, breaking this hour to tell you about
Attorney General Pam Bondi has ordered a grand jury investigation
into the so called Russia Gate conspiracy. Allegations made by
the Director of National Intelligence Tulsea Gabbard. Senior Trump administration
official confirms to NBC News that investigation was first reported

(03:58):
by Fox News, are unsubstantiated and largely debunked. Allegations by
the Trump administration that former President Barack Obama and his
aides in the intelligence community ordered a probe into the
twenty sixteen Trump campaign's connections to Russia to ruin his
chances of becoming president. The source tells NBC News that

(04:18):
a letter signed by Pam Bondi instructs an unnamed federal
prosecutor to begin presenting evidence to secure potential indictments, although
it is unclear what the charges would be and exactly
who the grand jury will be targeting. We'll stay on
top of that story. Thank you for letting us into
your homes.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
We are always so grateful.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
That was a hostage tape. That was a hostage tape
that she didn't blinks. She's freaking out because she was
internally part of a lot of that stuff that went on,
and she doesn't want to see her her beloved Mike Schmidt,
not the football not the basketball player, not the baseball player,

(05:00):
not the football player if there ever was one. She
doesn't want to see him lose his uh, his pulitzer
for pushing Russia collusion. Oh, if you didn't see this,
this is absolutely fantastical. This is great stuff. This is
what happens when they start losing publicly losing. In fact,

(05:22):
I'll give you another one. I'll give you something even better.
I'm gonna give you a clip that's gonna break it
all down for you. You're gonna love this. So we had Nate,
we got we got Nicole Wallace. Now we got CNN
is sad. Cut number fifteen. They're sad about the grand
jury stuff. Go for it, Cut fifteen. O.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Great, We're back with more breaking news in our law
and justice lead. A source telling CNN that Attorney General
Pam Bondi has directed federal prosecutors to launch a grand
jury investigation into accusations that Obama officials manufactured intelligence about
Russia's twenty sixteen election. In a grand jury could issue
subpoenas or even pursue a potential indictment as part of

(06:04):
a criminal investigation into allegations that Democratic officials tried to
smear down during his twenty sixteen campaign by falsely alleging
his campaign was.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Colluding with Russia government.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Just follows a recent move from Trump's Director of National Intelligence,
Tulsa Gabbert. She declassified documents that she alleged undermined the
Obama administration's conclusion that Russia tried to help Trump defeat
Hillary Clinton. Let's bring in Sena and senior legal analyst
Ellie Honig. Ellie, what a prosecutors need to start or
set up here?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
What's the process? Yeah, Philo.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
So look, this is a big step forward because now
we've moved from beyond the stage of reports and referrals
and political statements into what appears to be an actual
criminal investigation by the Justice Department. Now, traditionally, and I
can't necessarily vouch or speak for this particular Justice Department
because they've defied a lot of norms, but traditionally, the
burden to open a granduary investigation is fairly low. It's

(07:01):
not nothing.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
As a prosecutor, you have.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
To have some basis to believe that a federal crime
may have been committed. But Phil, now that there is
a grand jury convened that gives DOJ prosecutors enormous investigative powers.
You already mentioned the two major things that grand jury's
can do. Number one is investigate. They can issue subpoenas.
These are criminal subpoenas. They're essentially mandatory. You can challenge them,

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but they're typically upheld by courts. You can subpoena witnesses
who will have to come in and give testimony in
the grand jury. The second thing grand jury got to do,
and we're down the line here, is ultimately vote to indict.
That's how federal prosecutors obtain indictments. The burden is simply
that you have to show probable cause that a crime
was committed. It's a much lower burden than in order
to show someone's guilt. So this is a major step

(07:47):
forward in this investigation, potentially quite a precipitous one.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Well, and it ain't going to be in DC. It's
going to be in Florida. It ain't going to be
in DC. It's going to be Florida, Florida, Florida. Anybody
you know about Florida. Yeah, we also know what the
clocking is in terms of the people who are being
called in to testify. They're going to go right after

(08:11):
hilarious Clinton first. They're going right at her because she's
the genesis of much of the collusion. And Barack Obama
and his allies are fit to be tied because they
didn't want to go down this road. Sure they did,
you know they did. They've been looking for it. Attorney
General Piem Bondi has signed in order to launch a

(08:33):
grand jury investigation into the origins and the promotion of
the Russia hoax by President Barack Hussein Obama, Secretary of
State Hillary Clinton, CIA Director John Brennan, DNI clap On
clap Off, the Clapper, and then of course the FBI
director James Shellman Coney Comy. The investigation comes after the

(08:57):
Director of National Intelligence, former Democrat now a patriot, Toulci Gabbert,
released a number of declassified documents showing that Barack Hussein
Obama ordered a December twenty sixteen meeting that's after the election.
I repeat, that's after the election, to try to dig

(09:17):
up the collusion after the election was settled. Why would
you do that if it was just a regular kind
of an investigation. Why would that be the thing?

Speaker 6 (09:33):
Why?

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Why? Why? It's why I say, It's why I say,
release the Apstein. It'll be perfect smoke show for the
people who are going to be going down to the
Floridia Alcatraz. It's not just going to be those people.

(09:54):
It might be those people. Oh I forgot News Talk
eleven ten nine nine three WBG. I forgot. I had
another clip. Let's just do this because nobody else will
do this. Hallie Jackson cut sixteen. Halle Jackson sad about

(10:20):
the grand jury Russia thing. Cut sixteen. As well, as.

Speaker 7 (10:23):
We're learning the Attorney General is ordering a grand jury
investigation Florida in the claims by the White House, the
former president Obama ordered a probe into then candidate Trump's
twenty sixteen campaign connections to Russia, allegedly to try to
hurt his chances of becoming president. By the way, allegations
that are not substantiated. A Justice Department spokesperson declined to
comment when asked about the letter. Just a couple of

(10:45):
weeks ago, the office for the former President said, in part,
these claims are outrageous enough to merit a comment. The
bizarre allegations are ridiculous and a weak attempt at distraction.
I want to bring in Monica Alba, who was at
the White House.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Plain English at here. Why does this matter?

Speaker 8 (11:02):
What does this mean?

Speaker 9 (11:03):
Remember a couple of weeks ago, Hallie, when really the
headlines were dominated by the Jeffrey Epstein controversy, and then
the President was sort of trying to change the topic,
very obviously and in many different venues, was trying to
bring up these unsubstantiated claims about the role he argues
former President Obama had in the twenty sixteen election, and

(11:24):
trying to suppress some information that he says would have
been damaging if it had come to light. And so
then you had the Director of National Intelligence, Toolsey Gabbard,
come to the White House briefing room, come to the
podium and try to share some of this alleged new evidence. Well,
now you have the Attorney General saying that they're going
to try to take that information, which remember they had

(11:45):
announced a strike force to look into what they call
this new evidence and try to evaluate it to see
if there could be any potential criminal indictments that they
would follow. And the thing that matters here is that
this is basically a grand jury investigation that's being launched,
but that will happen in secret. This is behind closed
doors and it's completely unclear whether it will yield anything new.

(12:06):
It's unclear that we will ever learn anything new about
it because it could be under seal.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
But it really does bear repeating.

Speaker 9 (12:13):
This is looking into something for which there is no
evidence to back it up, and it's really it seems
a politically motivated move to keep the focus on one
of the presidents clear political foes, and talk about basically
anything else.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
HALLI, you know, it's great about this. They've set the
precedent that you can prosecute a former president. Barack Obama
can be prosecuted Joe Biden can be prosecuted, George Bush
can be prosecuted. Go down the list. They can all
be prosecuted. Bill Clinton can be prosecuted. Hillary Clinton can
be prosecuted, Al Gore. You just go down the list.

(12:49):
You guys set this in motion when you went and
knocked on the door Mershan When you guys went to Mershawn,
you knew you were going and you were closing that
doorway forever. You can put presidents in jail. You tried it.

(13:10):
You tried it like five times. Fanny, how many cabins
do I rent? I mean, look at look at all
of these people. Jack Smith, Jack Smith, he can be
You could bring him in for a grand jury. I mean,
you can do all of this. You guys, you could
have done the right thing. You could have said, you

(13:30):
know what we're gonna do. We're just gonna let Joe
Biden run for the presidency and see how this all goes,
and whatever's happening is gonna happen, et cetera, et cetera.
But you guys decided you wanted to put Donald Trump
in prison. So now we have to find out who
else is eligible for prison. Barack Obama Kamala Harris auto penning.

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I mean, the auto penning alone was probably gonna get
a bunch of people put in jail potentially maybe I
don't know. I believe it is until proven gil. But
you hear how two alleged news organizations MSNBC and CNNNN.
You understand, like how they are so out of their minds.

(14:14):
What are they afraid of? Did Nicole Wallace help out
Andrew Weissman, did he have a role in this? Let's
talk about all these people, because there is a list
of the people who are going to be subpoena, who
are going to be brought in front of the grand jury.
And you want to know something that's really crazy. You

(14:35):
can't say no, which means now you've got to get lawyers,
and now you've got to go sit there, and now
you've got to make sure that everything you say dots
the eyes and crosses the t's, because that's how you
get into a perjury trap. I almost feel badly for
these people, almost feel badly for these people. But imagine

(15:00):
all of those people who are going to be discomfited, right,
They're going to feel like they're just not as comfortable
as they once were.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Don't worry.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
It'll never be as bad as the j six people
who never got in front of a judge, who were
just stuck in a gulag. And that's okay, that's okay,
they got pardoned. Maybe some of you will flip, Maybe
some of you will turn state's evidence. Maybe some of
you will take your conscience and say, listen, I got

(15:35):
to tell the truth about how it was that they
tried to overthrow a presidency before it even took place.
That's a problem. We should still definitely no doubt about it.
Release the Epstein documents. I think it's an important thing
to do. I'm loving the Lady is loving made News

(16:21):
Tar eleven, ten ninety nine three WBT. I know he's
out of the circle of trust, but I had to
place in Tesla. I know Ewan's he's out of the
circle of trust now, but you know what, I think
he's out on, like a special mission or something like that.
I don't know. Ralph is here and that's always making
me happy. Ralph. What's on your mind today, sir?

Speaker 6 (16:43):
Well, you know it's a great day to let the
sun shine in, feel the warmth of justice coming back
into the house, and everything Brett. These people have broken
the golden rule. They started lying their habitual wars. I
think if people start getting subpoenas and getting their emails

(17:04):
with subpoenas, especially these huge gastors, and if they're getting
talking points from these uh intelligent agencies and other things,
day out of people off with justice.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, you know, or either go ahead.

Speaker 6 (17:21):
Or or are you know?

Speaker 10 (17:22):
Either in the end lose their job. If you can't,
you cannot lie and be successful in a lot. It's
a house of cards.

Speaker 6 (17:33):
It always implodes.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Well, here's the thing with what they're doing. And I
app I always appreciate the call there, Ralph, thank you
very much. One of the issues at hand here is
what was concealed on a variety of levels. Right, So
the intelligence community, like if you think about this for
a second, a president comes into the office, no matter

(17:56):
who it is, could be it could have been Hillary Clinton,
it could have been it could have been Donald's Trump,
it could have been anybody coming into the office of
the presidency. And if you are purposely hobbling that president,
which which is what they did? You know, which is
what they what they attempted to do, and they were
pretty successful at it. You had you had like a

(18:18):
variety of crises that existed that were creations of the
deep state. Right, so we know that we we understand
that completely. Uh. All you have to do is, you know,
look at the people who were were brought in uh
to be a part of the administration, who were then prosecuted,

(18:38):
uh because they weren't supposed to be in the employee
of Donald Trump, Rick Gates, uh Manifort uh who was
only guilty of what who was only guilty of actually
winning a campaign? He wasn't he wasn't doing anything that
was you know, as Todds, as as as Hillary Clinton did.

(19:02):
Hillary Clinton went and actually took made up stuff and
distributed it to the intelligence community, so that your favorite
sweaty guy in the whole world, Shifty Shift, would would
be all excited and would go on MSNBC and would say, oh,
certain Plainton's site. It's in Plainton site. I'm telling you

(19:23):
right now, Adam Shift. Adam Shift's got a problem, and
it's nothing to do with any of this. You want
to you want to hear something incredible, and this is
stuff that you're not gonna have. You're not gonna hear
this on like Fox News You're not gonna hear this
on CNN or NBC or any of that. Listen to
this the Morning Briefing. This is over at PJ Media

(19:47):
this week. In orange jumpsuit possibilities, Adam Shift, Why would
he have an orange jumpsuit on? That doesn't make any sense?
Why why would Adam Shift potentially be in the in
the jackbody. He's a senator from California slash Maryland. So
what's happening with this particular story when you think about

(20:10):
Adam Shiff, it's a wonderful new day in President Trump's
Republican Party when John Cornyn has teeth like this. Matt
goes on to explain how this law could impact Adam Shiff.
What is that? Well, it's this. It looks like Senate
Republicans aren't just talking tough on corruption, they're laying the
groundwork for real accountability. And Democrats like Senator Adam Schiff

(20:34):
and New York Attorney General Letitia James may finally have
reason to worry. Senator Cornyn has introduced the law enforcement
tools to interdict troubling investments in abodes or the Letitia Act,
pointedly named after the New York ag herself But this

(20:58):
isn't any symbolic jazz. The bill represents a serious move
to expand criminal liability and more importantly, to stiffened penalties
for public officials who abuse their positions for personal gain,
specifically through shady dealings like mortgage or tax fraud. How

(21:23):
about that Adam Schiff who's also been accused of mortgage fraud.
Remember they said that he didn't live in California, that
he was using his documents to say he was living
in Maryland, And then he was saying, no, no, no,
I don't live in Maryland. I live in California. This
is a guy who's who's looking at some pretty uh
contemptible behavior generally speaking, and specifically he may be targeted

(21:46):
for this. Of course, Schiff is also a Russia collusion
hoaxer and a Trump impeachment fetishist. Wow, that's a great
phrase written there. He is by far one of the
most unsavory people and a political party that is at
present absolutely polluted with them. Shiff is a product of
the California Democratic machine that is working overtime to corrupt

(22:11):
and destroy the United States of America as we know it.
That's the allegation at some point one or more of
them has to be stopped. Seeing him get his comeuppance
for the criminal abuse of his power would be satisfying
in a boon for the future of the republic. But
this is what people are now looking at. You're looking
at people who said, you know what, I can walk

(22:33):
between the rain drops. I absolutely can walk between the
rain drops. I'm better than you. How many cabins? Dont
I rent lots of cabins? How many houses do you rent?
I rent lots of houses, and do you maintain them
as your permanent domicile? World depends depends again. I will

(22:58):
ask the question, and I'm serious about the question. We
understand where the Bushes came from. The bushes came in,
and they had a whole lot of money and a
whole lot of sort of you know interests are around
the world. How did Bill and Hillary make so much

(23:22):
money so fast when they didn't have two Nichols to
rub together when they left office? Where did all these
other folks, not Donald Trump and not the Bushes. I'm
just gonna set them aside, the Reagans, I'll set them aside.
Jimmy Carter was obviously a gentleman farmer, and all that

(23:42):
kind of stuff that he did, right, I mean he
was that guy, Richard Nixon. Richard Nixon was a guy
who liked to dabble lbj LBJ. I mean that guy.
That guy was. That guy was a shady character, a
tough customer. But where did all these other people get
all of this? Kamala Harris, Barack Obama, Michelle Obama? Where

(24:05):
did all Nancy Pelosi? Where did all of this money
come from? Where did all of this money materialize? Just
boom like that? You know why Trump's got money, He's
got buildings, he invests, he builds things, he does that
sort of stuff. Where do these politicians get all of
this money? Anybody have an idea? Anybody have a thought?

(24:27):
You think Adam Schiff is like some super maven. Come
on now, Gone are the days of the gentleman or
gentle woman person coming into the Congress or the Senate.
Gone are those days? Now? It's all about the doray

(24:50):
me news talking even ten that an I'm three WBT
seven O four five seven zero eleven ten. Good to
be with you as we look at some of the
other stories that are out there, moving all in real time. Okay,

(25:11):
So Sheila says, let me see here, Sheila, we will
quickly forget our president is a convicted felon by his
own peers. Will we I mean he's still the president.
We quickly went would forget until okay. So this is

(25:33):
the idea of the trial that Mrshan was in charge of.
Stan Stana with a very good take as well. If
we're going to go back and disclose all the improprieties
of past administrations and prosecute, maybe we should do it posthumously,
all the way back to Woodrow Wilson and air out

(25:56):
all the dirty laundry so that we can go forward
in the total transparency where people actually know how corrupt
government really is. So we never go down that road again.
But the problem is when you have power and when
you have money, you end up with a situation where

(26:16):
people are maybe not going to be dissuaded. Right. Look,
the press, if the press wanted to be honest brokers,
they would vet every candidate that runs for the presidency
and the vice presidency. They wouldn't, you know, hide information,
They wouldn't do any of that stuff. But the entire

(26:39):
reason why people get frustrated with the system that we're
in is because of one very very simple thing, and
it is this, they want to be welcomed in the
circles of power. You go to Washington, DC, you go
to the White House, you go to you know, any

(27:00):
any of these different sort of groups of people that
are very high end people. And I don't mean that
they're better than you or better than me, But I'm
talking about people who are high end people who feel
like they should be a cut above. And there's a
reason why people talk the way they do in Washington,

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d C. But it's the same kind of conversations that
go on in Hollywood, It's the same kind of conversations
that go on in you know, a big financial situations
in New York City. It's because you want to be
a part of the thing. That's what you want. You
want to be a part of the thing. You want
to be regarded. You want to be the people who

(27:45):
understand you know this, that and the other thing are
are are a real true measure of character. Look, just
one person sending a message I don't know, I didn't
get name. There's no name on it. Oh Dave, it's Dave.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Does anyone really believe that the one hundred and seventy
four thousand dollars a year's salary. Ultimate end game of
people who go into public office. You only need to
look at the midterm elections that are coming up to
see that one race for Senate House in North Carolina's
campaign is going to require a billion dollars to run,

(28:24):
Love Dave, It's possible. It might be that expensive, right,
But again, you don't have to blame the candidates for
making it expensive. Why why do the folks have to
spend all this money to get elected because the media
demands it. You know, you're working, You're working to get

(28:47):
your messaging out. You got to pay top rate for that.
You know, you got you gotta go for that. You
got to set up all these different organizations, you got
to do all this sort of stuff. Gone are the
days of people who would sit around and say, hey,
let me give you, let me give you a bottle
of whiskey, and don't forget to vote for Brett, you know,
like something like that. That's how you used to win

(29:08):
people over that. That is absolutely once upon a time,
once upon a time, and I know I'm old enough
to remember it, and some people in the audience may
be old enough to remember it. There used to be
a time when the bars were closed on election day. Yes, yes,

(29:30):
you're not supposed to go get people all liquored up.
It's one of my favorite terminologies. Hey what are you doing?
What are you doing tonight? I'm just gonna get all
liquered up. Then I'm gonna go and I'm gonna vote,
and I'm gonna have no There used to be a
time when you were not you were not able, the
bars were closed. Here's what I think. If you really

(29:54):
want a great voting experience, you do it on a Saturday. Saturday.
It's a celebration, you shoot fireworks off, you're doing all
the great kind of stuff. Why not that? Why not?
I mean, honestly, do you want to go and vote
on a Tuesday? Why are we voting on a Tuesday.
I want to vote on a Saturday. I want to vote,

(30:16):
not not Friday night. Friday night's a little too dicey.
I want to vote Saturday. Everybody goes out and votes.
Boom bab boom. I know, I know we had a
the whole reason why you ended up with Joe Biden,
by the way, you know why that was right? Because
we vote for like seventy two months before you know,
we even get to know what the results are. You
got people dying and you don't know what to do

(30:37):
because they won the cadaver. What are we gonna do
with the cadaver? Mel Carnahan, anybody remember that guy? He
went and they just gave his wife the job. And
that's not a joke, as Joe Biden would say, not
a joke. But the fact of the matter is, there

(30:58):
are people who are going to be bought. There are
people who are going to go to d C to
sell themselves so that they can, you know, pick up
the best possible situation you ever You ever watch like
a cable news channel and you see somebody show up
and you go, holy cow, I forgot about Congressman So

(31:21):
and so. I forgot about Senator blah blah. I don't
I don't remember. I forgot about those guys. I wonder
what they're doing now, and they're always in DC. What
are you guys doing in DC if you're not doing
the job anymore? I mean, it's not like it's not
like you're you're pretending to be like you're still a
professional athlete, right.

Speaker 11 (31:44):
And hour number two underway, It is great to be
with you.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
I'm Brett Waterbowl seven oh four or five seven zero
eleven ten. It is the telephone number to be a
part of the conversation. Okay, so what do we got Now?
We got Jelaine Maxwell opposing the unseiling of the grand
jury information, with attorney writing that Epstein is dead. Maxwell
is not. Well wait a minute, Hold on a second.
You had a group of people go out there and

(32:19):
meet up with her last weekend, and now all of
a sudden, she's saying, listen, I can't disclose the information
that I have because I'm still trying to get my
appeal underway. Jelaine Maxwell opposes releasing the grand jury transcripts, Well,
unfortunately she's in jail, and I don't know that she's

(32:42):
going to have the same sort of protections that she
would like to have. That's gonna be something that people
have to look very very closely at and we'll have
to see what ends up happening in that regard. Very
interesting today seeing a story that popped up, and for
the life of me, while it is an interesting story,

(33:03):
I'm just kind of shocked that we just came across
this information because this was from a while ago Titan
sub disaster was caused by weak safety and oversight. According
to the US Coast Guard Dateline Portland Main, the Titan
submersible disaster could have been prevented. The US Coast Guards

(33:27):
said in a report Tuesday that held ocean Gate CEO
Stockton Rush responsible for ignoring safety warnings, design flaws, and
crucial oversight, which, had he survived, may have resulted in
criminal charges. What a dumb sentence. If he had survived,

(33:50):
he might have gotten charged. But he didn't, and he's dead,
and so is the crew, and that is horrible. Rush
and four part passenger were killed instantly deep below the
North Atlantic when the Titans suffered a catastrophic implosion while
descending to the wreck of the Titanic. A multi day

(34:12):
search for survivors off of Canada grabbed international headlines, and
the tragedy led to lawsuits and, of course, calls for
tighter regulation of the burgeoning private deep sea experiment expedition industry.
So you guys remember all of this happening. You guys

(34:33):
remember the terrible disaster that took place. It was a
horrible situation, It was awful, It was terrible, but one
of the things you have to think about here is
why are you going down into the wreckage of a
one hundred year plus old ship. Why would you even

(34:54):
try to get in there? Why would that happen? This
is twenty twenty three we were talking about, why would
you want to take that submersible and try to make
contact with the Titanic. I think it's crazy. Look, it's
one thing to go down and be, you know, looking
at it and kind of taking videos and that sort

(35:15):
of stuff. But it sounds to me from what's been
reported here, that there were massive red flags the Ocean
Gates culture of downplaying and ignoring even falsifying key safety
information to improve its reputation. The company ignored the red
flags that had toxic workplace culture, where firings of senior

(35:36):
staff and the rest were the looming potential there. This
is an awful story all the way around. So what
ended up happening. What ended up happening was this You
had this thing that they took down to the bottom
of the ocean, and it made contact with the Titanic itself.

(35:59):
Titan had been making voyages to the Titanic site since
twenty twenty one. The Titans' final dive came on June
the eighteenth, twenty twenty three, a Sunday morning, when the
submersible would lose contact with its support vessel about two
hours later. The submersible was reported overdue that afternoon, and

(36:19):
ships and planes and equipment were rushed to the site
to no avail. The Coastguard led team operated under the
possibility that there could be survivors for several days. Wreckage
would subsequently be found on the ocean floor at about
three hundred meters off the bow of the Titanic. The

(36:40):
Coastguard reported, so why are you doing that? And I
know you're sitting back and you're saying, Brett, why are
you condemning people who cannot do anything for themselves at
the stage of the game. I'm just saying, I'm just saying,
that's a graveyard. You've got all kinds of technology that

(37:00):
you can use. You can use submersibles that don't have
people in it. You can get go go looking around
and trying to see what's up over there and all
that kind of stuff. But the idea of going down
there and seeing that thing, to me, I just I
wouldn't want to do it. I think, I mean it
didn't look. I'll certainly I'll take three or four calls

(37:21):
on this if you want to opine about this. I
think it's a I think it's a sort of thing
that would be ghoulish. Let the people rest, Let them
rest at the sight of which a terrible, insane, horrible
situation came to pass in the original notion, and now

(37:46):
it's become a graveyard two times over. Very sad, heartbreaking.
Some things are better left undisturbed. News Talk eleven ten,

(38:12):
now nine to three WBT, It's the Bretwinable Show. Texas
House again fails to move forward on redistricting after the
Democrats fled the state. Not all of the Democrats fled
the state, just the people that are supposedly representing people
they fled the coup. Texas House again fails to reach

(38:33):
a quorum as most Democrats remain out of state. Here's
what we kind of know at the current stage. For
a second day in a row, the Texas House failed
to reach a quorum as dozens of Democrats have left
the state and protest over GOP plans to potentially eliminate

(38:54):
five Democratic US House seats ahead of the twenty twenty
six midterms. Speaker Sustin Burrows said lawmakers will try to
establish a quorum again on Friday, while the House members
will be called into the chamber for a pro forma
session for tomorrow and Thursday. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton

(39:17):
said he would seek court rulings against the Democrats if
they don't return by Friday, ensuring that their seats will
be declared vacant so their seats will not ever be
the same again. All Right calls for the arrest of
lawmakers who fled. Burrows said he signed a civil arrest

(39:38):
warrant for absent Democrats, and Governor Greg Abbott ordered the
state officials to arrest them, but legal experts say the
warrants are likely unenforceable outside of state lines, so that's
a problem. You have no way to really force them
to come back. Republican Senator John Cornyn sent a letter

(39:59):
to the FI today urging the federal agency to assist
state law enforcement to locate or arrest potential lawbreakers who
have fled the state. Democrats vow to keep fighting on
the Texas State Representative Ramone Romero said that he is

(40:19):
willing to risk arrest after he and other Democratic lawmakers
fled the state to block the GOP redistricting, saying that
it would be a very small price to pay. Redistricting
plans in blue states are a factor now. As Texas
Republicans move ahead with redistricting plans, Democrat run states led

(40:44):
by California are now also pushing forward with their own
efforts to draw new maps and add Democrat seats, which
means what they're going to try to do is these
very interesting What they're going to try to do is
just a probably any Republican representation that would be my guest,

(41:05):
that would be right right there in the in the
league of Gavin Newsom. But you never know, you just don't. Mike,
Welcome to the program. What's on your mind?

Speaker 12 (41:16):
Mike, Hey, Brad, good afternoon. You're doing well.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
I'm doing well. Thank you very much, sir.

Speaker 12 (41:22):
I was talent. Iklar Ever was answering the tome that
I wanted to talk with you a little bit about
again the timing of news that you were talking about
with the why they're releasing this stuff on the southern
maaren now. But in my mind there's also that question
about why they're wanted to release all these twenty sixteen memos.
That's what I was calling about. But you were just

(41:43):
talking about Jim mandering, And frankly, I think I thought
this way for twenty five thirty years. I've talked about it.
It is the number one threat to American democracy, germ mandering,
and I really wish we could somehow frankly passion I
see for mement to get rid of it. And this
stuff happening down in Texas could turn into a really

(42:05):
bad disaster. So anyway, I'll go either topic. But that's, uh,
you kind of psyched that mean when you were talking
about Jermy Mander, because I think it's just a really
important point.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Okay, yeah, that's it is a very important point, no
doubt about it.

Speaker 12 (42:21):
Well, I think if we're going to stand on that,
we can get back to those two thousand and sixteen
emails at some point, but you'll really start with the premise.
And I say this to a Democrat, to both sides
engage in jerry manderingin the half about the history, however,
and I realize I'm partial Democrat, it's not the same.

(42:41):
But I sometimes joke that you know, gosh, if you
go on the highway and you check your quizzy poll,
say eighty or eighty five. That's one thing. If you're
having a cocktail downtown, you bust through the bottom doors
and go down Main Street at ninety five miles an hour,
that's another thing. Now, both are speeding. Both are definitely

(43:04):
speaking the guilty of speaking, but one different than the other.
And the Republicans are really, really, really good at GM
manically is both has a really good example of it.
The problem with it is that voters, you and me
and all the folks listening to us, we're the ones
that get the short end of the state because you know,

(43:27):
as the old saying goes, you know, politicians are picking
their voters much more frequently than voters are picking the politicians.
And you know, the what we have now is the
democractics state. So a lot of them anyway, have moved
to an independent commission. They sort of guided out hands

(43:48):
of the legislature of the General Assembly and they put
it over to commissions that will look at the districtions,
ball distriction according to geographic boundaries, and there's other things.
One person one so all that kind of stuff. But
you know, the recoverants are not doing that, and you
know that would I think they's solve some problems.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Well, well, here's here. Here is the problem, because in
California you had a commission and uh, the crookedest politician
in all of the country, uh, in Gavin Newsom, decided
he was going to try to play games, and uh,
you know, they've they've basically created a situation in the
state of California where where you've got the biggest state

(44:32):
in the in the Union and uh, you've got very
low representation because of the shenanigans that have gone on
over the last couple of years. It's it's not surprising.
It's because leftists, uh believe in one you know, one vote,
one man, one time. Uh, and then they'll they'll they'll
they'll go in there and try to grab the power.
So you know, this is this is a difficult thing

(44:54):
in California.

Speaker 12 (44:55):
I mean you probably know more better than I do.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Well, you could look it up. Yeah, they they had
a commit they have a commission out there that was
that was doing it. Arnold Schwarzenegger was was warning against
Gavin Newsom getting cute with it. And unfortunately, you know,
Gavin Newsom, I there's a there's a very small part
of me that wishes Gavin Newsom became the president and

(45:18):
we could see what a true dictator looks like. Because
Donald Trump's not a dictator, but Gavin Newsom, that dude,
he is right in line with some of the history's
worst people. And and I and I think I wish,
like maybe for like ten days, people could live under
a Gavin Newsom administration. He is a horrifically bad politician,

(45:42):
and he's not good for the people of California, and
by extension, he's going to try to wreck the rest
of the country.

Speaker 12 (45:47):
So I know he's been in the news in the
last couple of days. Yeah, because he's basically saying, look,
can't we have this commission? Yeah, I will work to
go around it.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Sure, that's his dream. Yes, yes we can.

Speaker 12 (46:03):
Ask Lucy in California. Yeah, I promise you. I mean
I would be if Texas bas all. Yeah, he said, Okay,
get the point. We're not doing this because of any
Texas emergency. We're doing this because it's the power we're
having Donald.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
I know, look, Mike, I know, I look and look,
and you're you're an incredibly he he just keeps talking
over me like it's unbelievable. Mike Daisley does not ever
want to have a conversation. I mean, it's just no,
it's too late, man. You see, Mike's That's been a
real pleasure, Mike, as it always is. You've entertained my audience,
and boy, wow, I wish we could have had a conversation,

(46:41):
but unfortunately you didn't want to. News Talk eleven ten

(47:05):
out of nine three Wbteam breaking. Brett Jensen is joining
us here on the program, and boy, you had a
tremendous get yesterday in your programming last night, Brett Jensen,
And one of the things that I thought was particularly
interesting and I want you to kind of flesh us
out for the audience who may not have heard this
is the the challenges that we're dealing with with industrial

(47:29):
grade criminality that is happening around our communities. Talk a
little bit about who you talk to and and what
what he gave you in terms of the insight to
you know, the imperativeness of the you know, being safe.

Speaker 13 (47:46):
Well you know, and it's you know, it's highly unusual,
and you know, we were I was afforded and we
as a station and listeners were afforded the rare opportunity
to get a little bit of behind the scenes look
from a US attorney. And this was US attorney rus Ferguson,
who's the US attorney for western North Carolina. And you know,
his boss is Pam Bindy, Like that's his boss is

(48:09):
Pam Bindy, and so you know, so he's in charge
of like the Department of the DOJ here in North
Carolina and specifically Charlotte. And you know, I just I
asked him about gangs, you know, because we hear a
lot of crime for the last three years about youth, youth,
youth and youth, and so I was like, all right,
So I asked him just about gangs. I was like,

(48:33):
is it prevalent, you know, because we always hear about
the crime of youth and how it's getting younger, But
is it prevalent with gangs? And he said, basically, look,
seventy percent of what they deal with is you know,
gangs are from excuse me, like Ecuador and Guatemala and Mexico.
And he said, gangs are very prevalent here. And he

(48:56):
said gangs have gotten actually smarter, you know. And the reason,
he said, Brad, he goes, he said, before you know,
we could crime them or basically, you know, go after
like the Rico Act, sort of like what they do
with the mafia, he said. But what they've started doing is,
he goes, if you notice gangs no longer do graffiti.
They know, the newer gang members no longer do graffiti

(49:19):
on walls or pavement or whatever like they used to
back in the day to announce their presence, he said.
And now most of the gang members they don't do
gang tattoos anymore. And the reason is it's sort of
like trying to prevent or like saying, hey, we're going
to make it harder for you to prosecute us under RICO.
And so you have to prove that a gang actually exists,

(49:42):
as opposed to us telling you, oh, yes, MS thirteen
and you know we're spray paying it in on the
walls or I've got MS thirteen on my knuckles or whatever.
Now it's going to be much harder for you to
prove that there is actually a gang. But he said, yeah,
he goes, that is a big thing. And I just
thought it was fascinating because we don't hear much about
gang in Charlotte. But he said, because yes, seventy percent

(50:02):
of them are south of the border.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
There is a there is a very interesting not in
a good way, but in a very bad way. There
is a very interesting phenomenon that is that has come
to the United States, and that is you have people
who are parts of international gangs who come into the
United States for the purposes of robbing high end places,

(50:26):
people's houses in Los Angeles or in California or New
York or what have you. And they they will fly
in on a on a day pass. Basically, they will
do the robbery, they will take all the stuff back
and fly right back down into South America. And that
has been a phenomenon now for at least two or
three years. That's a really frightening thing because you're you're

(50:48):
not going to be able to catch them in the
act when they are when they're doing these sorts of things,
and if God forbid, they use a weapon and kill somebody,
it's going to be much harder to try to interdict
them and and to lock them up.

Speaker 13 (51:01):
Yeah, and he was saying, look, he goes that is
a high propensity of their resources are used to fight
the gangs and the situation to like what you're talking about,
and not just international and I highly recommend that people
listening right now if you didn't hear the show last night,
because it was a full hour in studio with Rus Ferguson,

(51:21):
the US Attorney, go to WBT dot com and listen
to it because he talked about how also Brett and
I know you would find this fascinating because I know
you talk about China more than anyone else in our station,
and that they said, look, the money laundering is huge
through Chinese money laundering because they're maybe they're trying to
get like their children or something into America, but they're

(51:43):
only allowed to spend fifty thousand dollars per Chinese law.
But yet they're trying to get someone into Stanford, which
is you know, maybe eighty thousand or one hundred thousand
dollars a year. He goes in money laundering through fentanyl
and drugs from China, and they're tracing the money all
the way back to China. Because of that, he goes,
it's fast and you don't think about China having an

(52:05):
impact in Gastonia or Charlotte or wherever. And he said,
it's a huge money laundering effect coming in from China
straight into our area.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Yeah, that that is absolutely a fact. And you know, nowadays,
you know, we've we've gotten used to understanding that ventanyl
is a horrible drug. Innocent people lose their lives every day,
you know, not realizing that what they're consuming, et cetera.
And now we found out the Wall Street Journal and
some other organizations have done a big work on this,

(52:36):
which is there are drugs now that are stronger than
ventanyl that's out there in the system right now. Uh.
And and it's stuff that people have never never heard of.
It's called an ultra potent nitazines that are mostly from China.
They're easy to smuggle and mix into heroin, recreational drugs
and gray market pharmaceuticals. And it is it is like

(53:00):
by an order of ten, you know, ten or twenty
more dangerous than fentanyl. And I can't even imagine what
that's going to look like in the next ten years
unless we get our unless we get a grip on it.

Speaker 13 (53:11):
There, Brett, Well, and to your point, and you know,
he said, look, with the clothing closing of the borders
north and south, he goes, it has slowed down the
influx of fentanyl in America, no doubt, he said. But
obviously they're finding other ways and you know, just things
because you know, look, I love my beer and wine
and booze, but I've never been like a big marijuana

(53:32):
guy or anything like that. I was never that in
college and just never it just never healed to me.
But what he said, but what he did say last night,
he goes, Bretty goes.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
He goes.

Speaker 13 (53:39):
People think they're just buying a regular bag of weed.
He goes, and it's laced with fentanyl, because they go, oh,
if I get a much stronger high for the same price,
why wouldn't I go back? And the people are smoking
don't know that they're smoking fentanyl. And he said, he goes.
The next thing, you know, someone od's on it and
they're dying from smoking weed. And people don't realize why
they're dying because you know, they're like, oh, I'm just

(54:00):
smoking weed. Why should I Why should I worry about fentanyhl?
He goes, But weed is laced with fentanyl because the
dealers want you to have a stronger high so that
you will go back and buy more weed from them.
And it's just it's amazing to hear what Russ Ferguson
was talking about in all of this last night, and
again I highly recommend that people go back to the
show and listen to it last night from the website

(54:21):
because it was just truly fascinating to him break all this.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Down, especially with school getting underway at any minute. Here,
what do you got coming up on the show tonight?

Speaker 13 (54:30):
So we got a lot of things going on tonight.
We now have officially a third person saying that they're
going to run for sheriff of Mecklimore County. And one
of these three is not Gary McFadden yet, so will
he make number four? And also because he hasn't announced yet,
And also the MECHGP endorsed their candidates for the you know,

(54:52):
the town the townships and the city primaries, and I'm
going to talk about that because there is there is
a couple of very very very interesting things going on
from the MECHGP in the endorsements, especially in North Mecklemark County.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Big stuff coming up tonight beginning at six. Thanks so
much for joining us here, Brett Jenson. We appreciate you,
always appreciate it, buddy, Hey, you got it absolutely coming up.
Guess what, My good friend Bo Thompson joins us. There
was talk eleven ten, nine nine to three WBT. It

(55:28):
is the crossing of the streams Am and dam. Bo
Thompson joins us here today. Good afternoon, Bo Thompson. Are
you staying dry out there?

Speaker 8 (55:41):
I am staying dry, But I'm one of those people
in town who has not had power today. Oh no,
you know you We live in this world of great connectivity,
and then all of a sudden, when the power turns
off for a little while, you realize how much is
controlled by these device is that we love until we

(56:01):
don't have the juice. And I know I'm not the
only one out there today dealing with that, and I've
heard the numbers, so it's not it's somewhat isolated in
pockets with the with the heavy rain, but I'm one
of them, so hopefully I'll get the juice back soon.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
All right, I won't keep I won't keep you long
because I don't want to run out of your charge there.
So let me let me ask you this. I have
a question for you as we look at the stuff
that's being talked about. Right, so we've got the renegade
folks who ran out of Texas because they don't want
to be part of the situation there with the with
the you know, setting up different districts, et cetera. And

(56:38):
also at the same time we've got we've got things happening,
uh with the with the the issue involving Epstein, et cetera,
all that sort of stuff. How how much on your
you know, on your thought is there for for these
sorts of things. I mean, it's you look at this

(56:59):
and it's this starts to become like a scandal chase,
you know, when we're trying to figure out what's going on.
How closer are you following this stuff?

Speaker 8 (57:08):
Well, I mean the es Stine saga, I guess you
could call it. Yeah, Now it's got so many different
I mean, you know today I heard you guys talking
about and in the news, but gLing Maxwell now trying
to prevent the testimony from being released, the transcripts, what
have you. I mean, that seems to take different turns

(57:29):
every day and kind of goes from sort of really
hot to kind of down, and then it's the story
and then it'll sort of fall back to be among
the top stories just depending on what the day is.
And the other story that you mentioned with what's going
on in Texas, I think is fascinating from the standpoint.
I mean, we've seen redistricting, or rather a redrawing of

(57:51):
districts in North Carolina and accusations of gerrymandering by both
sides for years, right, We've seen different instances of that
in North Carolina, and it's been a hot topic from
from year to year. However, what you see going on
right now with Texas, I think it's most interesting because
of the precedent it could set heading towards the mid

(58:13):
terms and heading towards you know, future elections because we
see what's happening with you know, Democrat lawmakers leaving the
state right now and evading you know, being there for
what's called what a quorum, and then and then California,
you got rumblings of the same thing happening, and some

(58:34):
some copycats across the country. So if this becomes sort
of a flashpoint for you know, numerous states engaging in
some sort of version of this, then that becomes a
much bigger story. And Texas, I mean everything's bigger in Texas, right,
So the fact that it's happening in a state of
that size is going to give it a bigger spotlight.

(58:55):
And so yeah, I think that story is definitely one
to watch, not just because of what's happening today, but
what it could mean for other states that may follow suit.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Well, one one story that I think is is fascinating
is obviously this upcoming election that's gonna take place in
twenty six obviously with with with you know, the uh,
the Roy Cooper taking on you know, Michael Wattley, uh
and I and I thought you had a really great
conversation with Tom Tillis yesterday breaking things down in that regard.

(59:32):
You know this this is going to be a massive,
massive race. How how high do you think it'll go
in terms of the spend on this is there because
because we if it's if it's a known factor as
to who is probably going to be the two people,
you know, it's now going to be down in dirty
at eleven thirty and we're gonna have to see a
whole lot of money getting slashing around Thenner.

Speaker 8 (59:53):
Well, well, we were talking to him yesterday and Mick
mulvaney too. You know one thing that Tilli said, I'm paraphrasing,
but he essentially said, even though both of these candidates
have seen a lot in different ways, Wattley has been
behind the scenes and engineered a lot of these successful campaigns.
And of course Roy Cooper hasn't lost an election yet,
and he's been you know, he's been governor, he's been

(01:00:16):
Attorney General. I mean he has He's a guy that's
that's weathered the political storms of a campaign. However, you know,
this is at a different level for for both of them.
I was, I was looking back, he kind of lose
track sometimes who's held what Senate seat? I was thinking,
you know, in North Carolina, the seat that's up for

(01:00:37):
grabs here actually is the one that Jesse Helms once held.
And you know, for those of us who were here
back in the in the nineties when or even the
eighties too, when when Jim Hunt was the governor that
decided he was going to run for Senate against Helms
and then Harvey Gant former Charlotte Mayer who ran twice
unsuccessfully but really really heated. I mean, this Senate seat

(01:00:58):
is has been one of the bell weather most spotlighted
Senate seats for decades. And I think when you hear
people say that this one here between Cooper and presumably Wattley,
if those two guys are the ones that end up
being in the general and it looks that way to
say that this seat and it's been the heated one

(01:01:23):
many many times, to say it still could be the
most expensive and most watched race and history. That just
tells you everything, right there, I think absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
So what you got coming up on the big show tomorrow? There,
my friend, We.

Speaker 8 (01:01:36):
Have tomorrow on Wednesday our cybersecurity expert Teresa Payton as always.
Also we have Scott Huffman, who's a political science professor
that we talked to now weekly from Winthrop University about
all these stories you and I talked about and more.
And I'll have you know that I've sat in my
car for thirty minutes to charge up my phone so

(01:01:56):
we could have this conversation. So I'm there for you, man,
no matter what the elements may throw my way.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Much appreciated, my friend. I appreciate you. It's stay dry
and we'll talk tomorrow, my friend. Thanks so much.

Speaker 8 (01:02:09):
All right, man, you got it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
It's Bo Thompson. I'm Brett Wable News Talk eleven ten
out of nine three WBT Brettwiderable Show. Okay, so the
President of the United States is talking to a group
of reporters and supporters. I guess talking about the redistricting

(01:02:33):
fight that's going on. Fox is not covering this. We're
certainly monitoring this. And here he is right.

Speaker 14 (01:02:39):
Now, Texas Senator John Cornyn is asking for your help
to force Democrats back to the state and hold them accountable.
Do you want the federal government and the FBI to
help locate and arrest these Texas Democrats who have left
the state.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Well, I think they've abandoned the state.

Speaker 15 (01:02:54):
Nobody's seen anything like it, even though they've done it
twice before, and in a certain way, it almost looks
like they've abandoned the state.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
It looks very bad. Yeah, go ahead, Please.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
FI get involved. Should the FBI.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
Get involved, Well, they may have to.

Speaker 15 (01:03:06):
They may have to. No, I know they want them back.
Not only the attorney general, the governor wants them back.
If you look, I mean, the governor of Texas is
demanding they come back. So a lot of people are
demanding they come back. You can't just sit it out.
You have to go back.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
You have to fight it out. That's what elections are
all about.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:03:24):
Please, thank you so much, President Trump. Two questions for you. One,
did you were you aware of and did you personally
approve the prison transfer for Gallaine Maxwell that your Justice Department.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
I didn't know about it at all. No, I read
about it just like you did.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
And do you believe that she's.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Not a very uncommon thing.

Speaker 16 (01:03:40):
Do you believe that she's credible to be listening to
your deputy Attorney General sat down with her recently.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Well, he's let me tell you, he's a very talented man.

Speaker 15 (01:03:48):
His name is Todd Blanche. He's a very legitimate person,
very high I just very highly thought of person, respected
by everybody. And I didn't talk to about it, but
I will tell you that whatever he asked would be
totally appropriate, and it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
An uncommon thing to do that.

Speaker 15 (01:04:07):
And I think he probably wants to make sure that
you know people that should not be involved or aren't involved,
or not hurt by something that would be very very unfortunate,
very unfair to.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
A lot of people.

Speaker 15 (01:04:18):
But I will say this, Todd Blanche is one of
the most highly respected people you'll ever meet, So.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
I know this.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
I didn't discuss it with him.

Speaker 15 (01:04:26):
But anything he talked about with her, or the fact
that he did that not unusual. Number one, and most importantly,
is something that would be totally above board. Please yeah,
please go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
President, mister President, how.

Speaker 9 (01:04:44):
Much more would you like Doge to cut from the
federal government.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Well, it's not so much Doze anymore.

Speaker 15 (01:04:49):
And by the way, I have to say that somebody
from Doze was very badly hurt last night. You saw
that a young man who was beat up by a
bunch of thugs in DC. And either they're going to
straighten their out in the terms of government and in
terms of protection, and we're going to have to federalize
and run it the way it's supposed to be run.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
But it's not a question of those.

Speaker 15 (01:05:09):
We have great people, secretaries and all working with those
and cutting with a I said, with a scalpel, as
opposed with an axe, cutting with a fine toothcomb, and
they're getting rid of people that aren't doing their job,
or bad people or bad things, bad policy, et cetera,
et cetera. And I think we've been very successful in that,
and there's more cutting to do, but there's also more getting.

(01:05:31):
We want smart people in government. Our country is doing great.
I think we are doing probably maybe in many ways,
better than we've ever done before. You know, we're taking
in trillions, not billions, trillions and trillions of dollars from
other countries who for years took advantage of us. They
took advantage of the United States like we were children.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
And that's not happening anymore.

Speaker 15 (01:05:53):
Now they're paying a lot of money, and they're paying
hundreds of billions of dollars, individual countries paying hundreds of
billions of dellas. You're seeing what everybody else is seeing,
and we have a lot of things we can do.
You know, one of the questions asked to me this
morning is you're going to make a dividend to the people.
And the purpose of what I'm doing is primarily to

(01:06:13):
pay down debt, which will happen in very large quantity.
But I think there's also a possibility that we're taking
in so much money that we may very well make
a dividend to the people of America.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
Thank you all very much, Thank you, thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
All Right, So that's the President of the United States
making comments about the stories of the day today, specifically
obviously the commentary coming in on the wayward Democrats who
have fled to Illinois, Boston, and of course New York,

(01:06:48):
and also at the same time the president making comments
on the Julane Maxwell situation, saying that, look, he hasn't
been he wasn't part of this. He's the the lawyers
have been talking and all that sort of stuff. But
that is that is an interesting story. And then he
mentioned somebody who had been beaten up in Washington, d C.

(01:07:11):
Uh for some particular reason, and he's threatening to federalize Washington,
d C. Perhaps, Uh, we're trying to run that particular
story down. I had not seen that story, uh in
terms of movement there. So we'll certainly keep an eye
on that and try to effort whatever we can to

(01:07:32):
uh to get you guys up to date on what
he's talking about. And you know, we don't know what
every single possible story is, especially if it's in a
localized area in Washington, d C. So it's not unusual
to to have people, you know, unfortunately assaulted. But at
the same time, what the what the details are in

(01:07:55):
that regard, and we have to we have to pay
close attention to a whole lot off and sort of
storylines all at the same time. And let me give
you one of those as well. Looking at at the
storylines that are that are moving and that would be.
One of the ones that I think is fascinating is
there has been a release of an al Qaeda, a

(01:08:18):
high up Al Qaeda member being released in the UH
into the world, coming out of out of the UK.
And this is somebody who was allegedly, you know, out
of their mind, they didn't know what they were doing,
all that sort of stuff. But there are people who

(01:08:39):
are very upset about what this looks like and and
about what this person was responsible for. And when you
dive into this kind of stuff, you know, to me,
it's a it's it's a shocker. You would you would
hope that we would take the the the war on
terror seriously in it's in it's regarding you know, kind

(01:09:00):
of a move. But you know what happens. Here's what happens.
These guys are in jail, they're sitting there, they're behaving,
they're they're dealing with their time, they're doing all that
sort of stuff, and eventually you get a leftist prosecutor
who says, okay, you know what, he's been locked up
long enough. We don't want to see that happen. We're
gonna let him go. I'll get the details on that

(01:09:22):
for you. Straight Ahead News Talk eleven ten ninety nine
three WBT. It's the Brett wintererbul Show. So just to
fill out the storyline that I was telling you all
as we were getting into.

Speaker 8 (01:09:39):
The UH.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
The back and forth in terms of what's happened nine
to eleven Mastermind to Rome Free UK's shocking release of
al Qaeda terrorists. This is a guy by the name
of Harun a Swat. Harun a Swat, a convict did
al Qaeda operative who confessed to roles in the nine

(01:10:05):
to eleven and the seven to seven attacks, faces imminent
release from a UK psychiatric facility without a full risk
assessment due to a Mental Health Act loophole. So this
guy was like a high end guy in al Qaeda.

(01:10:27):
The decision has sparked outrage, with officials warning of his
ongoing threat to national security and lack of stringent oversight
post release. He's a fifty year old British born terrorist
who confessed to aiding Osama bin laden in orchestrating the

(01:10:47):
September eleventh, two thousand and one attacks and the July seventh,
two thousand and five London bombings. He's being released from
a psychiatry a psychiatric facility within day, despite being deemed
a risk to national security. Who is doing this? I

(01:11:10):
got a suspicion. I have a suspicion about it. It's
somebody who clearly wants to see this guy go and
conclude what he was trying to do in the beginning. Oswat,
who helped establish an al Qaeda training camp in Oregon
in nineteen ninety nine, was sentenced to twenty years in

(01:11:33):
a US prison in twenty fifteen for terrorism related charges,
but was deported to the UK in twenty twenty two
after serving only seven years, partly due to time spent
in a psychiatric care at Broadmoor Hospital. Court documents reveal
that in twenty seventeen, Aswat declared if you think I'm

(01:11:56):
a terrorist, I don't shy away from my responsibility and
claimed to be a mastermind behind the nine to eleven
attacks and the two thousand and five terrorist attack in
the UK, despite warnings from counter terrorism officials. A UK
High Court judge ruled that auswatz release from the Bethlem

(01:12:21):
Royal Hospital where he was held under the Mental Health
Act is imminent due to effective treatment for Schitzo effective order.
A twenty twenty two psychiatric report noted aswatz Auswatz continued
expression of violent extremist ideology, including threats to kill Jews, Christians,

(01:12:47):
and certain Muslims. Yet a legal loophole prevents a full
terrorism risk assessment. What in the name of all that
is good? What is that? Because this character could disappear,
This character could go show up someplace. He could get
back into the United States. Who knows he could, He

(01:13:10):
could smile, he could find him his way in there.
This is crazy now, this, I mean, this isn't just
like some hey the guys want to be. He's obviously
somebody who's been vetted as a terrorist. Uh and as
proud of his al Qaida. Gosh, man, this is crazy.

(01:13:31):
We we have not learned the lessons. They always tell
you when they're going to come your way, and they
don't have to lie because they tell you exactly what
they're going to do. It was the great failing in
the run up of the late nineties and into the
early two thousands. These these people made it abundantly clear

(01:13:52):
that they were going to come back and it was
going to be it was going to be a real catastrophe.
Because that's the that's the mission, Robert, welcome to the program.
What's on your mind?

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Robert?

Speaker 17 (01:14:07):
Hey, Brett, you bring it every night, dog, Thank you
very much, Yes, sir, I just had a couple of
quick points, Brett. I've seen Chairman Wattley bone. I've seen
him do quite a few interviews already, even though we're
fifteen months out from that Jesse Helms seat that Boe mentioned,

(01:14:28):
and I think it's going to be gloves off. I'm
very impressed now. Of course, I think it's fair to
say that we really haven't seen Wattley in a in
a campaign environment when he's where he's out there promoting himself.
But I'm very encouraged by what I've seen so far,
and I still believe that Roy Cooper is a very flawed,

(01:14:50):
very beatable candidate.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
I look, it's this is going to be a lifetime
between now and that that election, right, and so what
has to happen now is the ramp up for funding
things and to try to get enough of a war
chest where you're going to be able to withstand all
that's coming, because what will happen is you will end

(01:15:15):
up with a situation, especially if this is the big
draw of the race and I do expect it will
be the big draw of the twenty sixth race. This
is going to look like bloody Kansas, and so that's
that's where the fight is going to be laid. And
we have to wait and see what the messaging is
going to end up being and how it is that

(01:15:37):
you get people to turn out not against something but
for something, and what that means. And I think that's
the important component.

Speaker 17 (01:15:48):
Well, I think the negative advertising is going to be
huge on both sides. And I've already heard Chrmn Whalley
say that he's in essence going to be another right
hand man for President Trump, and I think that's gonna
sell very well here in the state.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Yeah. No, I think look, it's you. You are certainly
somebody who understands what the politics of the day are.
But again, we have to look very closely at seeing
what the lay lines are. We are seeing right now,
we're getting a glimpse of this right with what's going
on in Texas and California and New Jersey and Illinois

(01:16:26):
and all that sort of stuff. You can see that
there's a there's a reticence by the by the folks
over on the left who feel like they need to
go much more radical than they have gone so far.
And again this is where you end up with difficulties
because you and I'm not saying any particular person, but

(01:16:48):
once you start owning these sorts of things Mandani aoc
New some Kamala Harris, all that, all those elements right there,
those are setting in motion a play that I think
is going to be bent very very much to the left.

(01:17:10):
And they may not then meet up with moderate voters,
with people who like a strong economy, but maybe they
want also something else, And that's going to be the trick.
The trick is looking at this as a matchup, and
that's how it's got to be. You have to imagine
this as being a boxing match that's going to be

(01:17:30):
set fifteen months in the future, and you have to
make sure that everybody's got the money, the purse, the fight,
and they've got to be able to deliver it and
be compelling. And we do not know what we do
not know at this stage of the game. What will
be the driving issue at that point, Yes.

Speaker 17 (01:17:52):
And regarding something else that maybe where we don't know
what we don't know yet, right. I saw where Nancy
Mayce has aired the South Carolina Governor's race, Yes, and
I believe. I mean, I live in North Carolina, but
I follow both Carolina's very closely. I at this moment

(01:18:12):
in time, without knowing anything else, I'm behind Nancy Mays
and I'm just I mean, I know Ralph Norman a
little bit.

Speaker 13 (01:18:19):
Now.

Speaker 17 (01:18:19):
When I say I know him, I just means that
I followed him, and so I know him a little bit.
I really don't know the South Carolina a g very well.
But I like Nancy Mace. I like her guts, I
like her Citadel's story. And to make a bold prediction,
I predict that the President Trump will eventually endorse her.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
I think that'll probably be the case. It's going to
be very interesting to see how this all goes. And
I'm gonna put you down on a little bit of
a piece of paper here and see if you get
it right. And that's gonna be great if you do. So.
I'm always happy to talk to.

Speaker 17 (01:18:54):
You, my friend, my pleasure, Brett. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Oh you're very welcome. That's that's Robert check it in
a very very astute analysis, very astute break all the
way around. And so you know, let me just tell
you something here. Okay, here's the thing that's important. If
you can just like watch the way these elements move,
whether it's a race in North Carolina, South Carolina, anywhere

(01:19:22):
else around the country. If you just sort of watch
the rhythms of this like you do when you're going
out to the beach and you see how the how
the waves come in sevens or eight's and things like that,
you can feel the momentum going and coming, and it's
just a matter of not getting too high and not
getting too low. That's the trick to looking at this

(01:19:43):
sort of stuff. News Talk eleven, ten ninety nine to
three WBT. It's the Brett Winterble Show. Good to be

(01:20:04):
with you. You can always follow us on x over
at winter Bole Show and of course at the Brett
Winterble Show Facebook page as well. This development now happening
Clinton's Clintons Clintons two or more subpoenaed to testify in

(01:20:27):
congressional Epstein investigation. WHOA I thought we were just looking
at the Russia stuff. Now we're doing the Epstein stuff.
Is one thing covering for the other? Is it a
smoke show? Are we dropping smoke? And then we're going
out and we're looking and seeing what's going on inside

(01:20:47):
the smoke? Is that what's happening here? Is that possible?
Holy cow? This is the BBC. By the way, this
isn't like Fox News. This isn't like five News Newsmax.
This is the BBC. They are the gold standard. As
so we're told. Former US President Bill Clinton and his

(01:21:12):
wife Hillary are among high profile figures to be sent
legal summonses from a congressional committee investigating the late sex
offender Jeffrey Epstein. Republican James Comer, chairman of the House

(01:21:34):
Oversight Committee, issued the subpoenas to the Clintons and eight
other individuals. The committee is seeking information about Epstein's story
after President Donald Trump's administration decided against releasing more federal
files on the dead financier. That decision sparked outrage among

(01:21:59):
Trump's supporters and some Democrats, who refused to accept the
Justice Department statement that there was no incriminating client list
in the Epstein files. Amid a rift between President Trump
and some of his supporters on Epstein and some of
his supporters on Epstein, the committee, made up of both

(01:22:24):
Democrats and Republicans, recently voted to issue the subpoenas. The
panel has also subpoened the Justice Department itself for records
related to Epstein. Lawyers for Julane Maxwell, Epstein's associate, who
is currently serving a twenty year sentence for sex trafficking,

(01:22:47):
had indicated that she was willing to testify before the
powerful investigatory committee with strict legal protections. Her scheduled eleven
August day deposition, though, has been postponed indefinitely. Well, I mean,
there's there's a lot of reasons for this.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
The Epstein legal saga has spanned two decades, with Florida
Police and the Federal Bureau of Investigation first scrutinizing the
well connected tycoon for allegations of sexual abuse in the
early two thousands. Comer wrote in letters to each person
that the committee must conduct oversight of the federal government's

(01:23:32):
enforcement of sex trafficking laws generally and specifically its handling
of the investigation and prosecution of mister Epstein and Maxwell.
He also indicated that the depositions will start this month
and will run through the autumn, with Bill Clinton's scheduled
for fourteen October. Former Attorneys General Merrick Garland Loretta Lynch,

(01:23:58):
Eric Holder, Albert Gonzales. They were also summoned, along with
Jeff Sessions William Barr, who both led the Justice Department
during the Trump's first term. Former FBI directors James Comy
and Robert Muller were also sent subpoenas. I thought, I

(01:24:19):
thought that uh Muller was not in good shape. I
don't know what that guy's going to be able to add,
but maybe maybe not. The Clinton administration predates the Epstein investigation,
but the couple's critics have long questioned their relationship with Epstein.

(01:24:40):
A spokesperson has acknowledged that Bill Clinton took four trips
with staff on Epstein's private plane in two thousand and two,
in two thousand and three, and met with Epstein in
New York in two thousand and two. Clinton also visited
Epstein's New York apartment around that time. The letters to
each Clinton to each Clinton cites these incidents, as well

(01:25:05):
as other alleged encounters and connections, as reasons for summoning them,
citing the flight logs. US media have previously reported Clinton
flew on Epstein's jet up to twenty six times, occasionally
without his Secret Service detail. In twenty nineteen, a spokesman

(01:25:28):
for the former president said he knows nothing about the
terrible crimes that Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some
years ago, or those with which he has been recently
charged in New York. So this is the storyline now
going back to a much different time. And I don't

(01:25:51):
know what this is going to portend. I don't know
how this is going to be handled in any way,
shape or form. But we have to wait and see,
because this is this is the road that was promised,
and this is the road that they're taking you down.

Speaker 11 (01:26:05):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
And that's I mean, that's that's really uh basically uh
what it is that we are we are seeing in
this stage of the investigation. There's talk eleven ten that

(01:26:33):
nine three w BT, it's the Brettwitable Show, Good to
be with You seven o four five seven eleven ten
coming up in a matter of minutes. You're gonna be
joined by breaking Brett Jensen. He's going to be keeping
you up to date and under everything else that you
got to know about that, uh, and then you'll be
joined by of course uh TJ. Ritchie, who's going to
be coming in him and getting you all the the

(01:26:54):
latest and the greatest of the stuff that's out there
as well too. So you know you want to you
want to stick around. I'm just telling you because we
got such we got such great, great content coming up
here in the in the next few hours. But you
know what, we're not done yet. We are we are
not done. I know, I know it's hard to believe it,
but they we are. We are not done yet. You've

(01:27:14):
been watching what's going on over in over in Israel
and uh Gaza, and basically you had the boss of
of Israel right in bb Net and Yahoo coming out
today and essentially saying, look, we have got to fight
the fight and we're going to have to push on

(01:27:38):
through until it ends up you know, this way or
or that way. You know, I don't envy anybody in
that part of the world because it is such a
dangerous place and it's a tinderbox, and it's been that
way for a very very long time, you know. It
is it's difficult under normal circumstances to be a leader, right,

(01:28:04):
and then you get into this powder cake and that
that is something that is just next level, and so
what should we be doing? Like leadership is not defined
by dominion, it's defined really by devotion. It's not measured

(01:28:29):
by applause but by obedience. And if we're to speak
of leadership, true, eternal, unshakable, I think for so many
of us we must begin not with kings or generals,
but Christ. He is not one among many. He is

(01:28:50):
the standard, the flame, the cornerstone, right, the supreme leader.
Born in obscurity, lived in humility, died in agony. Yet
he changed the course of history, not by conquering lands,
but by conquering death. He led not by the sword

(01:29:13):
but by truth, not by decree, but by example. He
washed feet, he healed the broken, He forgave the guilty,
And when the crowd cried crucified, he did not retaliate.
He redeemed. Christ is not merely a leader, He's the
definition of leadership itself. What makes a leader measured against Christ?

(01:29:39):
Every leader stands revealed. The most important quality is not brilliance, boldness,
or bravery. Its moral clarity, the ability to know what
is right and to do it even when it costs everything.

(01:30:00):
Into the historical vault Moses the Foreshadow. He stood before
Pharaoh with nothing but a staff and a calling. He
led a people through wilderness, through rebellion, through doubt. But
Moses was not the destination. He was the signpost. He

(01:30:21):
pointed forward to the one who would part not just
the seas, but the veil between God and man the lesson. There,
a true leader obeys the call even when the path
is impossible. George Washington, he is the servant of restraint.

(01:30:42):
He could have seized power, he chose to surrender it.
He led a revolution, then he laid down his sword.
He governed, and then he walked away. Washington's greatness was
not in his victories, but in his restraint. A reflection, however,

(01:31:06):
faint of the one who had all the authority and
chose the cross the lesson. A true leader knows that
power is not the goal. Service is. We can even
go back to a much earlier time. Alexander the Great,

(01:31:28):
the echo of ambition. He conquered the known world before
the age of thirty three, but he could not conquer himself.
His empire fractured, his legacy faded. Alexander shows us that
human greatness without divine grounding is a fire that burns

(01:31:54):
out the lesson. There, a true leader must be led
by something greater than ambition. Where Moses delivered the law,
Christ fulfilled it. Where Washington surrendered power, Christ surrendered his life.

(01:32:15):
Where Alexander sought glory, Christ bore shame, and in that
shame he revealed the deepest glory. What must leaders do
when they're doubted or condemned. They must stand in truth
as Christ did before pilot, serve with humility as Christ

(01:32:36):
did with the towel and the basin, speak with authority
as Christ did in the temple, suffer with purpose as
Christ did on the cross, and lead with love as
Christ did from the tomb. So what are we supposed
to do? We have to stop measuring leaders by worldly metrics.
We must ask not are they strong? But are they

(01:33:00):
christ Like? We must demand not charisma but character, not dominance,
but devotion, because when the fire comes, and it will,
we need leaders who will not flinch, who do not flee,
and do not forget. The greatest crown was made of thorns.

(01:33:22):
That's gonna do it for me. Breaking Brett Jensen comes
by next, and then TJ. Richie, I'll talk to you tomorrow.
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