Faith, Politics, Community & More On The Brett Winterble Show

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Doos talk eleven to ten three WBT. It is the hangover,
and I'm pleased to welcome to the program. One of
the people I admire most in this room today, and
that is a Peek Calendar, Pete. It's good to be
with you, Pete, It's good to be with I'm looking
at these numbers on illegal immigration. Now I'm not going

(00:38):
to specify the specific numbers, but we have seen I
think the last number I saw is five thousand people
had been deported out of southern California.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Just southern California, just one part of one state. Yes,
and that's total. Yes, and Strump took over and yes, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
The Washington I'm sorry, The Los Angeles Times has this
this headline that I think is fascinating. ICE is hiring
ten thousand agents, some unexpected people want to join the
Trump crackdown. Ten thousand being hired. So what strikes you

(01:27):
about ten thousand agents dealing with ICE being hired? What
is what strikes you with that?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
What strikes me?

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:39):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (01:39):
What is it that that that kind of hits you?
The number ten thousand, that's a pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well, I don't know how many ICE agents are there.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Let me, I'll do it right now in real time.
Let's sy let's see here.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Okay, that's dangerous.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Oh okay. How many ICE agents are there right now?
Because they got a lot of people helping the Immigration
and Customs Enforcement employees twenty one thousand people.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
Okay, so ten thousand, So you're basically increasing the payroll
by like a third.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Right, So check this out. This is as of mid
twenty twenty five, US Immigration and Customs Enforcement employees over
twenty one thousand people, including more than sixty five hundred,
just sixty five hundred deportation.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Officers, which is why they need so many people from
the other agencies.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Correct and the large HSI workforce. The agency has received
one hundred and twenty one thousand applications for new positions
in the current year. Holy cow, I think I think
I know why they're doing this.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Why people are applying.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Noy, why they're pumping in that many numbers of people.
Because when Gavin Newsom gets elected to the president, oh,
he's gonna have to.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
Fire a whole bunch of people, a lot, a lot
of people.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
My mind doesn't even think like this.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
You gotta be diabolical.

Speaker 6 (03:13):
I know.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
That's why I that's why I can't do like, I
can't do that kind of like prediction stuff. I can't
like see around the corners on things like this is
because my like I would.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Never have considered that. But that is so, that is
it's brilliant.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
I mean, if Joe Biden were president after this, you know,
in the in the different sort of setting, you know,
he'd fire every one of them. He would not keep
them on.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
Now, let's be fair, it would probably be a staff
or an intern with the autobile.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
But the auto pen Yes, the autopen, that's a Joe himself,
that's it.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
It would be doctor Jill maybe yes, no so but
but honestly, it's just it's the same diabolical plan, right,
just in reverse what Biden did or doctor Jill, doctor
Jill by opening the border and letting so many people in,
overwhelming the system, right allah Uh what is the uh.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Cloud Piven strategy?

Speaker 6 (04:12):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Sure, yes, overwhelm the system.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
You bring so many people in that you can't dismantle it,
you can't get.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
People uh deported through the process.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
And then when you try to do it in an
expedited fashion, then you get what about due process, and
you get all of those cries. So everything is a
stall tactic, which I mentioned this the other day. You
got people like there was an article in the Observer
talking about how, you know, back to school and people
are afraid to go back to school and all of
this because they're gonna get deported. But okay, well, if
the kids are legal, then they're not getting deported. But

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but it raises the question then like oh, they're they're
you know, basically hunkering down and they're not going out.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
They're not they don't want to get caught.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
Well, okay, but then what's the plan, Like, what's the
long term plan here for those people? You're just gonna what,
wait for another three and a half years and hope
that a Democrat gets elected so then you'll be allowed
to stay, which kind of gives away the whole strategy.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Does not one hundred percent. And I'll take your Cloward
and Piven and I'll upcross supply this in the Overton window.
Oh nice, because you're just getting people acclimated then to
the new normal. Right, so we have one hundred and
twenty I say, one hundred and twenty one thousand, Yeah, Okay,
one hundred and twenty one thousand. They're hiring ten thousand more.

(05:30):
What does this mean, Well, it's.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
One hundred twenty thousand applications.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Applications.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, that's massive.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Now, now here's something that's very interesting. When I was
up in the swamp there on.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Monday, did you catch anything?

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I did not catch anything, I'm very happy to say.
But I don't stay in DC.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
That's right, you did.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
I stay in Arlington. I stay in Arlington because I
can get in there about the same amount of time.
I don't want to be in DC. I'm afraid I'll
contract swamp fever, exactly right. So do you know this
is humblie Bos talking to Ron Vitello. Ron Vitello is
Border and Customs. He does border and customs. So customs

(06:15):
is getting They've got sixty five billion dollars in customs
money just this year because when you want to import
stuff to the United States, you got to pay the tariffs.
And this thing is a money making machine.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
So is it possible that the tariff stuff Although, as
I'm saying, yeah, I know that Trump.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Just loves tariffs.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
I know that he does, yes, but is it possible
that they're seeing this as the revenue generating machine in
order to build the wall, hire more people.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
I think it's actually they're going to take probably in
twenty six. Just predicting this now, I could be wrong.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
That's all right, we're in the circle of trust.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Okay, good, nobody's hearing us. This is good. I think
you're going to get stimmys off of the tariff money
that comes in just in time for midterms midterm elections.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
Well, and then yeah, you would basically be repaying everybody
the increased cost of the tariffs that they're paying.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Now that is that technically redistribution or is that just
distribution refunds?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Tariff refunds. Basically that's a really good term. That would,
I mean that good application of it.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
Yes, I'm also wondering do we get some do we
get some dividend checks?

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Well, he's saying he wants to. He's saying, you intel, Yeah,
they're saying they want to. Yeah, they're saying, make.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Me a shareholder. Do I get to vote in the
shareholder in the elections?

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I see, I'm not I'm not comfortable though with I'm
really not comfortable with the business. No, I'm not either,
And the government no, because that's how we got the
seven trillion dollars spending because we were going to do
the Green New Deal.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
Create All it does is create cronyism, right and uh
and then your short circuiting market signals.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
And wait a minute, wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, okay, I'm glad nobody's listening to you to this. Okay,
what did Donald Trump say he wanted to do for
the youngest of the young.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
He wants to pay people that babies.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
No, remember, he wants the accounts where you can put
in ten fifteen thousand dollars. He wanted to take money
and put it into those funds so that you would
be backstopping any problem with social security. What if he
takes that money, that tariff money, and seeds it all

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and seeds it all.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Everybody gets an account who's of course.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Or everybody who's born at this peterical particular time. And
so what happens in is the are the Democrats going
to come in and shut that down? Well? Try it? Sure? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Wow, oh yeah, terrible.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
Well they are, you are correct, they are terrible. Have
you seen the numbers? I saw this this a couple
of weeks ago. Somebody ran the numbers on how much
money the average American would have right now today, had
Democrats not and Republicans to join them in blocking w Bush. Oh,

(09:22):
with the idea, with the idea of creating, you know,
investments with a portion, not even all of your Social
Security money, but you could take like half of it
or something, sure, put it into an account and have
it invested in the markets rather than just in a
you know, you know, drawer of IOUs or whatever for
the Social Security and the amount of money you would

(09:44):
have right now, how much you're gonna get mad?

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Okay, I want to hear it. I love this.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
It's in the it's in like the average Yeah, because
this was twenty five years ago. Yeah, yeah, it's somewhere
north of like two hundred.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
K Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (10:02):
We have to go, Sue.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
It's awful.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
We want to go, Sue.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
I'm so mad about this because at the time, I
was like, yes, let me do this right, because we're
both gen xers, we were told our whole lives.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
You're not going to get a securities right.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
It's gone, it's gone, nothing to do right.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
And we had this chance. Wow, And Bush was like,
I'm going to use my political capital. I'm going to
touch the third rail in politics. And then he got
zapped and all everybody hated him, and then and then
it was dead for another twenty years.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
I know you know what, I think we need a
three day weekend.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yes, may all the labor be.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yours and you as well. Thank you, sir, Pete A pleasure,
my friend.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
I I.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
News Talk eleven ten nine nine three WBT. It's the
Brittwinterable Show. It is great to be with you. Seven
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Everything's fair game as we are in the middle of
a whole, big, different sort of storyline that's happening here,
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President Trump made a decision earlier today and he canceled
Vice President Harris's secret service detail that was extended by
undisclosed Biden order. Now this is a very interesting sort

(11:34):
of of a move. So the President of the United
States revoked Kamala Harris's secret Service protection on Thursday according
to a letter reviewed by CNN, former presidents receive Secret
Service protection for life. Harris, as a former vice president,
received six months of protection after leaving office. According to

(11:57):
federal law, that period ended on July. By the twenty first, however,
her protection had been extended for an additional year via
a directive not made public until now, signed by then
President Joe Biden shortly before leaving office. According to multiple
people familiar with the undisclosed agreement or arrangement, that is

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the order that Trump canceled in his letter titled Memorandum
for the Security of Homeland for the Secretary of Homeland
Security and dated on Thursday. Quote, you are hereby authorized
to discontinue any security related procedures previously authorized by the
Executive Memorandum beyond those required by law for the following individual,

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effective September one, twenty twenty five, Former Vice President Kamala D. Harris.
The letter reads in full. Trump's ending of Harris's protection
comes as she soon embarks on a multi city, high
profile book tour around the release of one hundred and

(13:08):
seven Days, her new memoir, set to be released on
September twenty third. Well, I understand that that is what
the president in Joe Biden, wanted to accomplish, that he
wanted to extend. But the law is the law, and
the reality is, these are people of means who could

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hire security details. There are plenty of celebrities, There are
plenty of people who are politicians. There are plenty of
people that are high profile folks who are protected and
act as protectees. It's not like we're prohibiting her from

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going to get Secret Service protection or something akin to
Secret Service protection. And I'm certain that if threats start
coming in against her life or her family's life, that
they will be alerted to that. They'll be alerted to
that by the proper channels. But at some point you

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have to stick with what the call is, and the
call is it's the president or the former president. Jimmy
Carter had Secret Service protection up until the last minute
of his life. And let's be honest, when the last
time we saw Jimmy Carter in public prior to his passing,

(14:34):
you saw him in a pretty close to a vegetative
state at that stage of the game. But he was
still protected. Why Because he's the president of the United States.
George Bush was the president of the United States. George
Bush was the President of the United States. I mean,
all these people, these are folks that are protected. But
but I'm sorry, and the world is a dangerous place.

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But I gotta tell you, if you get into the
business of being a part of the political process, you
have to be ready for what comes next. And what
comes next is not necessarily always fun in games, writing books,
kicking it, giving speeches. Sometimes you get kooks trying to
come after you, and you have to have people who

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are going to protect you, or you get your husband
to carry a firearm and protect you, or you can
carry a firearm yourself. I mean, there's plenty of things
you can do to mitigate this, all right. So I

(15:41):
have a question about labor Day. Does it count if
I do labor on Saturday and Sunday and Monday, Like,
how do I understand how I'm supposed to do labor Day?
Because I want to go I want to cut down trees,
I want to mow the lawn, I want to, you know,
put things away. I want to clean the garage. And

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that's all labor. I think that's labor. I should be
getting paid for it. But it's free labor. That's right,
So I just need to know, like when is when
are you stopping the labor? Now? It's gonna be hard tomorrow.
It's gonna be hard tonight because it's still college football
going on. It's gonna be hard tomorrow. It's gonna be

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difficulty because of college football. And then on Sunday. Is
college football playing on Sunday? Okay? Are they playing on Monday?
Holy cow? Then that's it. I'm not laboring. I'm not
gonna labor any labor. By the way, Nebraska looked pretty
good last night. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.
That kid, that kid, that kid Reyola, that kid, he's

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totally patterning his entire existence along homes they had. They
showed every part of that last night. But I want
to know, are you going to labor this weekend? And
I don't mean having a baby. If you are having
a baby, that's God bless you. But are you going
to labor this weekend? Are you going to get out
there and do labor in your yard or your backyard

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or in your neighbor's yard or whatever it is. I'm
just very curious about that. Ice has deported nearly two
hundred thousand people so far from during the Trump's second term,
setting a pace for the highest level in a decade. Now,
think about this, they're making a big deal about two
hundred thousand people so far since Trump returned to office. Remember,

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you've got probably north of ten twelve million people who
are in the country in an unauthorized fashion. I don't
know how they're going to be able to actually affect
that sort of a direction, but it is kind of
interesting to think about how this stuff works. US Immigration
and Customs Enforcement deported nearly two hundred thousand people so

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far since President Donald Trump returned to the office in January,
a Homeland Security spokesperson told Fox News Digital, putting the
agency on track to its highest level of removals in
a decade. So we're going back to I guess the
Obama years right, twenty twenty fifteen, the spokesperson said Friday.

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That's today that ICE removed one hundred and ninety nine thousand,
six hundred individuals from the United States between January and
August the twenty seventh, in the first three months of
this ongoing fiscal year. Between the beginning of October twenty
twenty four and the end of December twenty twenty four.
Now we don't know how many people voluntarily repatriated back home,

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because this is deportation. That is not the same as Okay,
you know what, I'm going to leave at some point,
I want to come back, I want to play, I
want to play the game the right way, all that
sort of stuff. So we we're gonna have to figure
out what that number looks like. How does that number
kind of explain what it is that's happening, and how

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it is that that's happening. You know, these are the
sort of things that we got to pay close attention to.
There's a there's a lot of stuff that we we
have to we have to look at and try to
try to figure out what's what's happening. Uh. There's a
person called Rosie O'Donnell. She is the town wacko. This
is cut number six. She's rambling and bambling and if

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you can figure out what she's saying, you're a better
person than me cut number six.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Please. Well, hey everybody, it's Thursday all day, as my
nana would say, And uh, well, can I tell you
I'm in Dublin, Ireland, having a great life enjoying the
people of Dublin, Ireland and the culture and the it's
a community. And so about the Minnesota shooting, and it

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brought me right back to Columbine in nineteen ninety nine,
when I just could not get it through my head
that students in America were shooting each other in schools
and this was a church inside a Catholic school. And
what do you know was a white guy, Republican MAGA person.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
How did she know that?

Speaker 4 (20:31):
What do you know, white supremacist. Nothing has happened since Columbine, nothing,
the million mom March. Nothing. It's overwhelmingly depressing to think

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that the number one killer of children in America is
gun violence. Every other country in the world seems to
have solved this.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
She goes on to put like a sketchy sort of
a reference to Donald Trump and how his time is coming.
I don't think that's really a good thing to say. Now,
she wants the guns gone. Everybody wants the guns gone.
When they're trying to make this argument, Okay, there are

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constitutional barriers, and people don't want to understand that. People
don't want to acknowledge that Second Amendment, the right to
keep bare arms is constitutionally protected. Repealing or radically altering
the Second Amendment would require a two thirds vote in
both the House and the Senate and a ratification of
three fourths of the states. In other words, that's not
going to happen. Landmark decisions like District of Columbia versus

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Heller two thousand and eight affirm individual gun ownership rights,
making sweep being bands legally difficult. So how would you
do this, Well, it's the same old thing that they
try to tell you. Mandatory buyback programs, similar to Australia's
nineteen ninety six initiative. The government could offer compensation for

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surrendered firearms. Not if you're living in the United States
with violent people. This is a country that's got violence
in it. Let's be honest about this. This is not
some little place where everything is idyllic and everything is great.
We have legitimate criminals, actual criminals that come in from overseas,

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that are homegrown, that are gang members. Just go through
the list. How about a ban on sales and manufacturing,
halting new production and sales of firearms, especially semi automatic
and automatic weapons. Well you could try to do that,
but you know the cartels are going to be selling
the stuff to the bad guys in the United States anyways,

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universal background checks. I guarantee you that that freak who
murdered those kids was able to purchase a firearm, and
he was able to do it. I'm sure he got
a universal background I'm sure he got checked when he

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went to go buy his firearms, or he bought the pieces,
bought the lowers, bought the stuff and assembled it himself.
Maybe he's that kind of an enterprising person. But come on,
safe storage laws requiring secure storage to reduce theft and misuse. Okay,

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I'll do that for my gun, but you've got to
do that for your fentanyl and your dope and all
your other stuff. Because you know, reasonable people are constitutionally
guaranteed the right to keep and bear arms. There is
no constantitutional right to carry fentanyl around with you. Oh oh,

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I love this one. Raising the ownership age. I've got
an answer for this. I've got an answer for this
that makes total sense. Absolutely, you'll hear about it coming
up next. Check out w BT's text line driven by

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Liberty Buick GMC. We certainly encourage your feedback on the
program as well. Let's jump out and talk to j D.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
J D.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Welcome to the program.

Speaker 7 (24:41):
Sir, Hey Brett, I'm just calling about Kevin. You some
and all these people mock and prayer. To me, I
feel pity for them because there's people, the kids that
were in the church. They were praying for a better life.
They're praying for what so many people pray for, love, happiness,

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And to me, it's like these people are bitter and
I feel bad for people like you're at Avenues because
he can't keep his state or his city that he
had San Francisco under control, and he's jealous. I had
that situation. Like I said, I lost my parents, both
my parents, and I lost my uncle who's practitioner who

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I used to call all the time. It's been tough
for me and I totally lost faith in God. And
if it wasn't for my wife, I don't know where
I would be in life. But she really helped me.
And every morning, every night before I go to bed,
I pray and sit there and say God, I'm grateful

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for having a roof over my head, having food, and
I pray for everybody and I pray for and to me,
it's just like I said, I just feel bad for
these people, yes, And it's just it's just, you know,

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it's also maddening too to see them not understand why,
like how this individual could do something evil like that,
that there are evil people out there in this world
like that, like for instance in Gaza, the Hamas and
we still have al Kaida. I mean, it's just to me,
it's just it's really frustrating that they don't see what

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these children were actually doing instead of mocking them.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
And I'm just calling just why why do you Why
do you think that they mock this sort of stuff,
like why do things that that are important in people's lives?
Why do you why do you think they do that?

Speaker 7 (26:52):
I don't know, I do not know, and you know,
sometimes I mean I don't want to say it, but
sometimes I believe that they're they're bigger than God. That's
why they want more power, That's why they want you know,
And it's just I don't know, it's just it's frustrating

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that there are people out there like this and like
they don't see, they don't like for instance, the people
that I mean that the innocent girl that was killed
from Ukraine. How how do people actually a wow, criminals

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to go back on the street and do do stuff.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
I will see that that that this is the problem,
right because and I and I'm willing to explain that
without any problem at all. Thank you for the call,
j D. People think that it's compassionate to release multi
fell in violators and give them another chance. They think,

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for some weird reason, they think, well, this, certainly this
is gonna be the thing that's gonna fix this person.
Let's let them out again. Let's let this person out again,
Let's let them walk the streets again. The problem is
when you go to the penitentiary, right, everybody knows the
word the penitentiary. What is the purpose of the penitentiary?

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Does anybody know? It's it's technically it's to reform yourself,
to come out and be a better person. It's punishment,
but you're supposed to come out as as a better
as a better human being. That you're not gonna go
and knock an old lady over the head with a

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with a pipe and stealer purse or anything like that.
The penitentiary is the place where you go to kind
of cool it. The purpose of a penitentiary historically rooted
in the idea of penitence. Repentance is to confine and

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correct individuals convicted of crime, serving several primary functions within
the criminal justice system. These include incapacitation, meaning protecting society
from criminals, retribution punishing offenders for their crimes, deterrence discouraging

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others from committing crimes, and rehabilitation, aiding inmates in reforming
their behavior and skills for reintegration to society. Every progressive city,
every progressive governor, every progressive in the country runs right

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to rehabilitation before the blood is even dry on the sidewalk.
And it's because they don't have this very very important
understand It's because they don't have the fortitude to punish
people who hurt other people. They're like, I feel really bad.

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He had a terrible childhood, and I know he shot
three people in the parking lot. But you know what,
Let's give him another chance. And then they just multiply it.
Let's give him another fifteenth chance, a twentieth chance. At
some point he'll probably change his ways. You can't run

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right to rehabilitation until you've done the retribution, the deterrence,
the rehabilitation. You can't stop it. News Talk eleven ten

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nine three WBT Brettwaterble Show Hour twounder Way and later
on this hour will be visited by a father, Bill Nicholas.
I've got a question for him about how it is
that you deal with these sorts of attacks that can
take place. Luckily, these are not as common as you

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would think, but certainly something to think about and to
talk about all the way around. The question that Ronald
Reagan asked back in nineteen eighty was are you better
off than you were four years ago? During the October

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twenty eighth, nineteen eighty presidential debate, Ronald Reagan closed by
asking Americans if they were better off than they were
four years ago earlier when Jimmy Carter was elected. If
we asked the question today and change the time element
to a year, the answer would be obvious. Yes, we

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are better off than we were a year ago. A
little more than a year ago, Joe Biden suspended his
reelection campaign and endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris to be
his successor in the race against Donald Trump. Not that
Harris would have been an improvement over Biden, but at
least the country was rid of an adult career bumbler.

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That's what they call Biden, whose policies were dead weight
on the country. Please consider the peaks that we have
reached in August of twenty twenty five. Number one, the border.
Biden wanted to change America by waiving in unvetted and

(32:45):
unadmissible migrants. Trump shut off the pipeline before the United
States fell in the way that Great Britain and other
European countries have. By the way, just as a parenthesis,
I don't know how much longer Germany's going to exist

(33:08):
with all that is going on with migrants. Energy. The
Biden plan was to choke energy production. Trump has unleashed it.
This has been made plain by the price of gasoline,
which is more affordable than it was a year ago.

(33:29):
Three dollars and nineteen cents a gallon for regular in
August of twenty twenty five compared to three dollars and
thirty five cents in August twenty twenty four. The green radicalism.
For this we quote straight from the reader Edward Wing's
comment on last week's Backlash Presidency editorial. You might have

(33:52):
included the entire radical green agenda as a separate category
and not just in aside in your conclusion, it was
furthered with zeal under three Barack Obama presidencies. Yes, that's
what he said, three Barack Obama presidencies. It caused great

(34:16):
harm to ordinary Americans, the people that I love more
than anybody, the regular people, the normal people, the ordinary people,
while empowering the same set of special interests pushing the
rest of the Obama agenda. Trump put an end to it.

(34:37):
Median household income. During the first five months of Trump's
second term, the average median household income adjusted for inflation,
grew by almost twelve hundred dollars. That's according to Steve
Moore of the Committee to Unleash Prosperity. When comparing Trump's

(34:59):
first term with Biden's only term, the real after inflation
gain was six thousand, four hundred and thirty four dollars
for Trump, as opposed to five hundred and fifty one
dollars to Joe Biden. Crime, how do you like your crime?

(35:20):
Common available ready. America's big cities are run by Democrats,
that much is known, who don't care about street crime.
Maybe they can't process the threat because they may have
a sort of different approach to this kind of thing.
Maybe they're part of it. Who knows? You never know? Corrupt,

(35:41):
irresponsible power man. Like most Americans, Trump is tired of
the lawlessness that is doing is doing something about it.
It might be heavy handed, it might not withstand legal challenges,
but he at least is fay is forcing Democrats to
address the problems in their cities or to defend the disorder.

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That should motivate voters to throw the bums out peace.
Trump has broken deals in conflicts that Biden likely cared
nothing about and might not have even been aware of,
given the shell that he was, and is working towards

(36:28):
an agreement between Russia and Ukraine, in contrast the constant
media howling and Democrats' incessant or approvals. Voters know they're
better off. You know you're better off. The country is
more united than it has been in years. Investor confidence

(36:48):
is at a four year high. Forty percent of Americans
believe the country's on the right track. Only twenty seven
percent said the same thing a year ago. So, if
you allow us to stipulate, Donald Trump is neither a
perfect man nor a flawless president. He should be criticized

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when he makes missteps and recognized for his achievements, but
his presidency is a vast improvement over the mess that
entangled us a year ago, and far better than the
debacle that we would have had to live through had
Harris one in November. We are a healthier, more vigorous,

(37:33):
more optimistic nation than we were in August of twenty
twenty four. That is from Issues and Insights. Doe's Talk
eleven ten out of nine to three WBT, It's the

(37:53):
Brettwinerble Show. Good to be with you, seven oh four
five seven zero eleven ten. Coming up, I'm going to
share with you something that I think is really interesting.
Maybe you've heard about it, maybe you haven't. If you
have heard about it, you'll enjoy it. And if you
haven't heard about it, I think you'll enjoy it. But
first we've got to reach out to Yankee Joe. Hello,
Yankee Joe. What do you know?

Speaker 6 (38:13):
Brother? I'm telling you those are the great people of
North Carolina. I'm just telling you that that album Moving
with Moving Pictures from Rush. Great album. Yeah, great album.
You should purchase it if you.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Won't have it, so absolutely.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
You know one of the two things, and about the strategy
that happened, and it's I'm gonna play very lightly. Is
this that I was? You know, I remember people that
are that I know considered buying firearms and I was,
you know, it was like, well the X, Y and
Z and I said, do you have a fire extinguisher
in your house? Yeah? And I said do you you know,

(38:48):
do you tend to use it? And it's like, well,
you know, if something happens, I'm gonna you know, you
have a cell phone with the first thing you doubts,
not on one. But the thing is is that I'm
gonna just be very lightly with that because I feel,
you know, a lot of it's very beyond terrible. But
we have to really think about that. You are the
first responder. There's nobody out there, you know, if you know,

(39:11):
God forbid, if you know you twist the hankled on
the high contrail, you know, you are the first responders.
So you have to think, you have to think about
those things that can happen. And then we do live
in a world of evil, and I'm gonna leave it
is be very light on this too. Possess that the
world is pretty messed up. And the thing is that
you don't get the too oftelligence full intelligence reports of

(39:31):
what really goes on in the world, and there's a
word you'll probably be holding your pillow at night because
it's pretty terrible. So you have to prepare for those things.
And on a different note, it's kind of the same thing
for us for safety. I remember when I was in
the Navy and I left, I think Dinkins was in office,
So you're very familiar with that breadon sure, I know.

(39:54):
So the thing is, can you remember how terrible it was?
And remember I had taken about twelve months, so at
least twelve months away from New York illa station overseas,
deploy overseas there, so I was not even in the
mainland the United States. And I remember on as US
military brothers and know where to talk is what a
FORTS is. It's the Armed Forces Radio and Television Service.

(40:16):
Was is the biggest DVAS station on the globe, and
so I see stuff like you know, news like whatever
you know unfortunately CNN and predominant CNN and what was
it sixty minutes? The name of the point is is
it that I remember? And you and I both know
New York was a zoo And I remember going down

(40:37):
forty second Street when I was younger, and it was enough.

Speaker 8 (40:40):
Of but.

Speaker 6 (40:43):
Peak shows and sorry lady and children peak shows and
the rest of the Element out there, and people were
getting that was normal to get robbed left. And I
remember in Queen's to have your car, he says he's
in office. Now I can say his name, Dan Bonngino.
It's just saying, Queen, it was a miracle your car
was sitting there. Talked that night.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Sure, that's the criminality to go to East.

Speaker 6 (41:07):
Reality is to go to Jersey and get shipped to Mexico,
chopped up in Jersey, go to Mexico for Queensland and anyway.
The point is is that I remember when Juliani took over,
and I saw this from a you know, an over
you know, thirty thousand feet You people like, oh my gosh,
Giuliani and Bord carried the biggest races for the planet
and God rest his soul, carried one of the greatest
police commissioners ever in America. But anyway, Giuliani, but I

(41:31):
carried to you know, we're heavy handed. Remember I came
for forty second Street with the Element over there. And
when I came back to New York and I went
to forty second Street, and I used to go, I
don't know if I'm sam Ashta the drum store. That
was my first time by myself when I was a kid.
Samwich is not so then.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Let me let me jump in here. Let me jump
in here. So we saw the successes in NYC. What
what are you expecting in Washington, DC?

Speaker 9 (42:00):
SE?

Speaker 1 (42:00):
What what is that? Can that city be fixed?

Speaker 6 (42:03):
Well, I'm gonna tell you one thing. When you start,
you know it's a it can be. But the thing is, though,
it have to start from the home. And the thing
is when people start doing other activities and is trying
to survive, Yeah, just trying to survive. It will it
can change, but you need to change. We've talked about
before you thought about the other day's culture. You do
need to have a culture of success and winning and

(42:25):
being part of Americanism.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
I think you're right. I think that's I think that's
exactly right, and that's what's gonna happen. Look, culture doesn't
fix itself. You have to fix the culture. And h
I appreciate that. Yankee Joe, thank you very much for
being on the show today. I'm sorry, but there's no
cavalry coming to save us. We have to save ourselves.

(42:49):
There is no no cavalry coming coming to save us.
We have to do it. There's nobody who's gonna come
in and say, oh, let me clean up your city,
Let me clean up the let me let me clean
up the light rail, let me clean up this, let
me clean nobody's nobody is going to go do that.
We have to. We have to change things. And I

(43:09):
think one of the things that was lost during COVID
was this anything goes kind of mentality. I can just
steal stuff, I can just stab people, I can just
shoot people. I can do whatever I want to do.
I can ryot, I can burn stuff down, I can
do whatever it is. That's that is the exact wrong problem.
That is that is wrong. It's it's really, I mean,

(43:30):
it's this is a it's very interesting to see how
the world is functioning right now, very very interesting. The
Daily Mail had this from a couple of days ago.
Mysterious Jesus boat found in Sea of Galilee linked to

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walking on water miracle. Now that's two thousand years ago,
two thousand and change, right. A large wooden boat uncovered
in the Sea of Galilee may provide a tangible link
to one of the most famous miracles of Jesus in
the Bible. Nicknamed the Jesus Boat, the cedar planked vessel

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dates back to the first century, coinciding with the era
of Christ. Biblical archaeology expert Danny Herman told The Daily
Mail it's a two thousand year old boat from the
Sea of Galilee, the type mentioned in the Gospels and

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sized for about twelve people. You can actually connect it
to one of the most famous stories in that every
Christian knows the account of Jesus walking on water and
calming the storm on the lake. The boat was discovered
in nineteen eighty six during a severe drought that exposed

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used the Sea of Galilee's shoreline near Magdala. Brothers Moisha
and Yuval Lufon, amateur archaeologists from the Kibbutz Genosire spotted
iron nails in the mud with a metal detector. As
they dug, an oval wooden shape emerged that had been

(45:25):
buried for two thousand years in the mud. Maritime archaeologists
confirmed its Roman era construction with carbon fourteen dating, placing
it in the first century. Rain returned after the months
of drought as the boat was uncovered and a double

(45:48):
rainbow appeared, an event many tied to the gospel story
of the divine intervention. Archaeologist doctor Kurt Revey emphasized that
the probable date of construction could be traced back to

(46:08):
the first century BC to the first century AD, but
you can never I mean, I'm sorry, but you can't
ever prove that Jesus was on it or even saw it.
About six hundred boats were working in the lake at
the time. The boat flat bottom design, ideal for fishing,

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and repairs made with cheaper local woods suggest it belonged
to poor fishermen, aligning with the gospel accounts of Jesus's disciples.
A cooking pot an oil lamp nearby indicate a night journey,
mirroring the gospel narrative. The oil lamp found near the

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boat suggests it was used for a night journey, just
like the gospel story of Jesus calming the sea. Hermann said,
noting the artifact was buried in the same silt layer
as the vessel, indicating use by its occupants. Story of
Jesus walking on water and they talk about the passages,

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A storm arose and the disciples struggled against the strong
winds and waves. Jesus approached them walking on water. Herman
has connected the boat to the story. They landed at Dissenterate,
the ancient name for Judisar, almost exactly where the boat

(47:41):
was found. That's pretty interesting. That is fascinating Us Talk
eleven ten, ninety nine three AWBT. It is the Brettwinnable

(48:03):
Show seven oh four five seven eleven ten. Great to
be with you, and I am very happy to bring
back one of my favorite people, and it's father Bill Nicholas,
who is joining us here today on the program. Hello,
father Bill, how are you doom?

Speaker 10 (48:19):
Pretty good? Brett, thanks for having me on again.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Now listen, we are all shocked at what we saw
take place during this week, this attack in Minneapolis. And
I'd be remiss if I didn't ask right off the
off the bat, how are you processing this? Being somebody
who is you are a priest and you are there

(48:43):
available with the folks who are coming into the church,
to the school, to all of that sort of stuff.
How are you processing this today?

Speaker 10 (48:52):
Well, there's always as oppose with the Christian communities, are
any any grouping that we see associated with this? In
our case? The Catholic Church, and a couple of years
ago was the Christian Church in Nashville. And every now
and again you have a Jewish community that is targeted
like this, there's always some personal aspect that affects you
because you're a part of this group. And these were

(49:13):
our fellow Catholics, and not just fellow Catholics, but children,
in many ways, the future of the church that were
targeted so terribly the other day. And so people are
justifiably distressed and hoping, you know, wondering when their own
community might be next, or on someone else's someone's list,
or when the next group of our community would be targeted.

(49:36):
But contrary to the words of the Mayor of Minneapolis,
who I understand today has also was also called out
by Bishop Robert Baron, Bishop of Southern Minnesota, so he's
even closer than I am to this prayer is very
important because it helps ground us, it helps keep us
focused and helps us from flying off the keeps us

(49:56):
from flying off the handle, like we've unfortunately seen a
number of politic isis and media figures do in the
wake of this particular tragedy. They're immediately quick to put
their proper spin on it. And part of it was
forget thoughts and prayers because the kids were praying at
the time the shooting took place. However, it's thoughts and
prayers that keep us grounded, give us pause so that

(50:16):
we don't fly off the handle in ways that could
be counterproductive.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Is there, and I don't mean to get too political
with you, but is there like a some kind of
a strange pecking order that exists, because it seems to
me that if you attack Christians, it's not that big
of a deal. And that's just me Brett Winterble saying
that you don't have to co sign it, But it's
just to me, it just feels like time and time

(50:45):
again we have to put up with it and put
up with it and put up with it. And I
understand the turning of the cheek, but how do we
process all how do we get beyond all this sort
of stuff?

Speaker 10 (50:55):
And you know, again all affirm its. You know, I
don't have to co sign it. It is something that
is noticeable and that's something we've seen in this case.
And I'll mention again at the Christian School in Nashville,
immediately they downplay the victims and run cover for the
group that's associated with the perpetrator. Again, we saw that
in the press conference. There's never any excuse to generalize. However,

(51:19):
if the shooter in this case was a Caucasian Christian
wearing a MAGA hat, you'd see generalizations going going crazy.
But now they're saying, of don't make any associations with
the LGBT or the transgender community. Whatever that is exactly.
But that's something we do need to take a good
look at, and I'm glad that some media outlets are

(51:42):
taking a good look at that that until a few
years ago, it was considered a mental disorder and also
a mental disorder with a high suicide rate, and we
can't deny that that was a factor in the shooting
the other day and in shootings similar to this. At
the same time, they downplay the christianvictims of this, and
I do recall when the school in Nashville was attacked,

(52:06):
at least one member of the media said, perhaps this
is why they were attacked because of their positions that
they have in believing, yes, there are only two genders,
and yes I'll add two more genders, the one you're
born with and the one you're not born with and
we can't be fluid in that. And when we see
that kind of one could say godlessness or kind of
an anarchy of thought where pretty much anything goes, then

(52:30):
one group begins to resent another group. And it takes
someone with.

Speaker 7 (52:36):
A kind of.

Speaker 10 (52:36):
Instability in their personality or in their psychosis or their
psychology to go off the handle. And we do see
instances such as we saw the other day someone shooting
Christian in this case of Catholic school, or as we
saw with the attempt against President Trump. What culpability is
there with the rhetoric against one group by another that

(52:59):
might take some who is a little bit unstable to
grab a weapon and make an attempt on someone's life.
And so there has to be some responsibility in that
right at the same time, not downplaying the victim group
because they're Christian, right, and not running cover for one
group because media and politicians tend to favor that particular
group socially and politically.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Okay, So I'm gonna ask you a question, and you
could take this any direction that you want to go
with this. So I'm I'm walking down the street and
somebody comes up and confronts me, and you know, wants
to jostle me or whatever it is, and I'm going
to defend myself. But as a as a priest, as
as a father, you know you are. You are celebrating

(53:41):
the mass. They were celebrating the mass at that church.
It's it's not lost on a lot of us that
at that moment they was being attacked very much in
a specific way. Have you had people that try to
do bad things to you when you're celebrating that. I've

(54:01):
never asked you this before. I'm just kind of curious
if you've ever had to kind of bob and weave
or do something like that if somebody was trying to
get at you.

Speaker 10 (54:11):
No, not necessarily. Although you may recall about four or
five years ago at the cathedral in San Francisco, a
group of the Handmaiden's Tail protesters interrupted mass in the
middle of the mass, and it was handled very beautifully
by the people in the church. And of course the
video went viral, but you didn't get a clear shot

(54:32):
of who was celebrating the mass, and believe it or not,
it was yours truly celebrating that particular mass that reached
the news. No one interviewed me or anything like that.
But there was also another time I was in San
Francisco and it was after the Supreme Court brought down
the issue on the same sex marriage, and there was
a concern that there might be some disruption at the

(54:52):
Catholic churches. And I had a you know, one of
my altar servers would be sitting next to me in
the sanctuary to hold the book for me, and I
wasn't exactly sure how to address it. It is the city.
We do see unusual people showing up at Mass every
now and again. So rather than address any possible disruption,
I just told them, I said, if anything happens, I said,
like you remember the guy who was kneeling in the

(55:13):
sanctuary by himself until someone asked him to leave. He
was a little strange. But if there's anything that makes
you feel uncomfortable, we got the pillar right behind us.
Just feel free to take refuge. There have been times
where I've had to coach the kids or other ministers
who are there, just here's you know, keep this in mind,
and here's what we do if something happens. Fortunately nothing
has except that one instance at the cathedral at San Francisco,

(55:34):
and I didn't have to do anything. I just stayed
in my seat and parishioners and security and ushers took
care of the situation. But yeah, things like that can,
in fact happen. But I'm happy to say we see
that kind of behavior on the other side, we tend
not to see that kind of behavior, if at all.
On our side. We try to be respectful of the

(55:54):
people's views, we don't agree with them, and we hope
the whole trend gender question is a passing phase that
we can eventually get our sanity back and realize how
destructive it has been the direction we have been going
to people who, let's face it, are tortured souls and suffering,
and the way we've been handling it has not been
very good for the person or for society, and can

(56:17):
at times result in what happened the other day. But
at the same time, we are, like you said, the
people of forgiveness. We are people of prayer. Turn the
other cheek. Does it not mean we say, thank you, sir,
may I have another? It doesn't mean we perpetuate violence
with violence, but we do need to take precautions to

(56:37):
make sure we can protect ourselves and our communities and
our families. If we're teachers protect our students in the
context of a school, and unfortunately, the way things have
developed these days, this isn't the first time we've seen
a person dealing with transgender issues getting violent with suicidal tendencies,
and hopefully it will be the last. But hopefully we'll

(57:00):
see a real serious discussion in our society now that
maybe the direction we've been going on this issue has
not been the best. And even though one side may
be uncomfortable because it kind of violates their narrative, we do,
in certain at certain times have to face certain facts
that we have been handling this question the wrong way

(57:22):
and we need to get back to, let's face it,
traditional values, grounded values. And I think I mentioned to
you we can't deny there are only two genders, male
and female. I'll throw in two more, the one you're
born with and the one you're not born with. And
when we find ourselves grounded there, then we can see
clearly to help people who find themselves confused with regard

(57:43):
to this issue and help them with a manner of
real compassion, real care that doesn't lead to further harm
to the individual that may result in harm to others.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Great stuff Father Bill Nicholas. Wonderful to catch up with you,
and I'm glad to have had this conversation with you
as well. Hope you have a wonderful Labor Day weekend.
And would you indulge us with a blessing for folks
who are traveling, et cetera.

Speaker 10 (58:10):
Sure yes, And to you and your family, all your
listeners and especially those who are traveling, and especially those
who continue to who will continue to be affected by
this terrible tragedy in Minnesota. And Mael nightdy. God blessed
all of us, and bless all of you in the
name of the Father and of the Son and of
the Holy Spirit.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Amen. Thank you very much, Father Bill, appreciate you and
be safe.

Speaker 10 (58:29):
Okay, Thanks, hope to talk to again soon.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Absolutely, News Talk eleven ten, not nine to three WBT. It's
the Brett Winervill Show. What what is this? Who I
think this is? Hello, Jim, Welcome to the program. It's

(58:53):
been far too long, my friend.

Speaker 9 (58:56):
Yeah, it's been a couple of days, that's for sure,
but I.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Don't speaking recently. It is just it's just wonderful to
have you here.

Speaker 9 (59:04):
Well, I just wanted to follow up on what the
good father was talking about and the latest construct by
the the woke about how this is not the time
to pray, this is not the time to ask for
ye is.

Speaker 11 (59:20):
That?

Speaker 9 (59:20):
Yeah, it doesn't matter if we're ready to pray, or
we should pray, or if there's a moratorium on prayer.
The bottom line is this as far as the prayer goes.
And when somebody asks Mother Teresa once, does God answer
all prayers? And Mother Teresa's answer to her was that yes,

(59:43):
and sometimes the answer is no.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Interesting. That's a good that's that's a good take. I
like that.

Speaker 9 (59:51):
Well, thank you all right, thank.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
You for calling in today, Jim. Enjoy the weekend. Are
you are you going to labor this weekend or are
you going to rest this weekend?

Speaker 9 (01:00:02):
I could do some fun stuff, but.

Speaker 10 (01:00:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:00:06):
Man, it's really nice that the weather is really nice.
Maybe a trip to the beach, but you know they've
even messed that up.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Interesting, Like, yeah, I got it.

Speaker 9 (01:00:16):
It's got like these big burms of sand that hides
the waves in the sunset and everything. Yeah I did.
I did manage to take a good couple of good
pictures of the sunset the other day. You want me
to text them to you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Yeah, sure, you could text them over and and I'll
send them around as well. Absolutely, Yeah, I appreciate that.

Speaker 6 (01:00:36):
Yeah, a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Thanks, thanks Jim. That's Jim. We have a full service
program here today. I like this. I like this full
service program. This is this is one of the things
that I think is very very important. So Lisa Cook,
Lisa Cook has gotten a lot of attention by the
President of the United States. She is somebody who is

(01:01:01):
part of the FED and apparently she's got a number
of different properties that she owns. And one of the
things that we found out was, you know, she took
out a loan, a fifteen year mortgage on a property,
and then she took another mortgage, and then she's now

(01:01:24):
got three different homes. And this is part of this
new thing that's going on with the Federal Housing Finance Agency.
FHFA Director Bill Poulti dropped a second criminal referral against
the Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook based on evidence that

(01:01:47):
she entered into a fifteen year mortgage on a third property,
which she listed as her second home. So you have
to fill out an ethics form if you're doing business
like this, Okay, and so on an ethics form signed
with the government, Cook noted it as an investment slash

(01:02:11):
rental property. Why is this bad? And not simply a
clerical error? As Pulty notes, representing the property as a
second home may have allowed Cook to secure a lower
second home mortgage down payment and rates, as investment properties

(01:02:34):
typically carry higher down payments and higher rates due to
increased risks. The new criminal referral follows an initial referral
that Pulty made after Cook listed two properties as her
primary residence in twenty twenty one, ostensibly reaping manifold benefits

(01:02:59):
on teens treatment and interest rates, which Cook hasn't denied.
So the system is apparently being I'm gonna be prudential
here and say advantaging. It's advantaging these folks. So you

(01:03:20):
look at the signatures, you look at the documents, you
look at the stuff, and they're basically saying, this doesn't
make any sense. The Atlanta condo, the Michigan condo, matching
signatures exactly alike, all this sort of stuff. She said

(01:03:40):
that that was just it was not her investment property.
It was her personal property. And so as a result
of this, something's got to happen, you know, what's gotta happen. Well, look,
all you have to do is go back in history.
Twenty twenty one. Dallas FED President Kaplan busted for suspicious
stock traides. He resigns. Twenty twenty one. Boston FED President

(01:04:03):
Rosngarden busted for suspicious stock trades. He resigns. Twenty twenty
two Federal I'm sorry. FED Vice chair Richard Clareda busted
for suspicious trades and he resigns. Twenty twenty five. Lisa
Cook vows to stay on. This is just the beginning,

(01:04:24):
and I don't know where this is going to go.
I think it's going to be a very very tough
slog all the way around. News Talk eleven ten, nine

(01:04:54):
nine three WBT, Brett Wintererboll Show, Good to be with you,
seven oh four five seven zero eleven ten. Let me
ask this audience a question. It's a serious question. It's
a deadly serious question. Now that we've gotten these new
details in the last couple of days about the light
rail stabbing and the suspect. Do you think just open

(01:05:22):
question you can answer any way you want. Do you
regard Charlotte as a safe place to go around? Do
you feel safe when you walk around in Charlotte. Look,
I understand there's a whole lot of different neighborhoods. There's
a whole lot of different places. There's a whole lot
of stuff. I'm talking about, you know, South End, I'm

(01:05:43):
talking about light rail. I'm talking about that sort of stuff.
Do you worry and if you do worry, why and
if you don't why. There are probably people who are
listening to this program right now who have been accosted,
maybe have been assaulted, maybe been robbed, you know, any

(01:06:04):
of that sort of stuff, and that would tell you
why you wouldn't want to do it, right, It would
be an explanation why you wouldn't want that to happen.
Having a gun pulled on you is frightening, whether or
not you know, you know, if the weapon has got
bullets in it or not. But when you see somebody

(01:06:25):
pull a gun on you, or you have somebody near
by you where you see a gun has been pulled,
that is a frightening thing that clarifies everything in your
mind at that moment. Now, luckily, it's not that common
broadly speaking, as opposed to being robbed or your car

(01:06:48):
getting broken into or something like that. But how do
you process this sort of story? Because I wanted to
wait till this hour, the third hour of the show.
A lot of people are in their cars, a lot
of people are traveling around, and so this is the
kind of conversation that I think we ought to be
allowed to have. What is it that makes you feel

(01:07:12):
unsafe here in Charlotte, or perhaps you're the exact opposite
and you say, you know what, I go everywhere. I
don't worry. I'm pretty cool about it. That's what we've
got the problem with. What's happening here is the alleged
perpetrator to Carlos Brown, thirty four years old, was indicted

(01:07:32):
for one charge of first degree murder on Thursday, Mecklenburg County.
Brown was taken into custody after the stabbing, but was
awaiting medical release before he was formally charged. Brown is
accused of killing Arena Zarutzka, twenty three years old, on

(01:07:53):
Friday August to twenty second, around ten pm near the
station along Camden Road where to Boulevard and East Boulevard
meet in South End. Security video of the incident shows
that Zarutzka got on the train and sat directly in
front of Brown. According to a police affidavit, After about

(01:08:15):
four minutes, Brown stood up and stabbed her three times
in the throat with a pocket knife. There appeared to
be no interaction between the two before the stabbing. Now,
let me say something as an American. Okay, let me
say something as an American. I don't think you have

(01:08:39):
a trial there. I think he goes immediately to prison.
You've got video. She didn't say anything to him, He
stabbed her in the throat and killed her. Why does
he is What is his answer going to be? I mean,
I think that's right to jail. I think that's like, oh,
look at the video, she's sitting there. He kills her.

(01:09:03):
I mean, I mean you could say allegedly killed her.
But if the video is that clear, then how is
it that you you don't just say, go directly to jail,
don't collect two hundred dollars. Zarutzka was pronounced dead at
the scene. Loved ones say Zarutzka who had recently fled Ukraine,

(01:09:25):
And I think, I think that this is going to
be an issue because she's a foreigner. She came to
this country, and you know she would be alive if
she had I know what the defense is going to
try to pull They're going to try to pull that
kind of stuff. They're gonna make this guy acquire acquire
a boy, and and they're gonna make her. Well, she

(01:09:48):
should have known what she was doing and it was
potentially dangerous and it was all that sort of stuff
that is atrocious, and you know darn well that a
defense attorney is going to do that exact same thing.
Brown was arrested shortly after the stabbing, but was taken
to a hospital to receive treatment before he was taken
to jail. Yeah, why was he in the hospital. Why

(01:10:14):
did he go to the hospital, Why did he have
to be treated? What was he treating? What was he
hoping to be treated for? What was this? See, this
is what happens. It takes one time, two times, five times,
twenty times for this sort of thing to happen, and

(01:10:36):
then suddenly you get a reputation for the town, you
get a reputation for the community, You get a reputation
that ends up harming everybody else because people do not
understand that second chances, third chances, fiftieth chances, all of
the chances, you can give it all away. But there

(01:10:57):
are people who need to be incarcerated. They need to
be incarcerated. Can they be fixed? I have no idea.
I don't know anything about this person. I don't know
what it is. But when the police say, look, here's
the video, he stabbed her with a pocket. Now you

(01:11:17):
know how painful that had to be, and he allegedly
three times? What if that's your mother? What if that's
your sister, What if it's your girlfriend, What if it's
and imagine the terror she experienced in that moment. Imagine
what that terror is like, that fear, the bleeding out,

(01:11:42):
all of that stuff. And then what we take him
to the hospital because maybe he's having an episode? What
what is that your mother, your sister, your coworker, your friend,
the lady from church, the lady from the store that
you know, all that sort of stuff. What are we

(01:12:03):
to do about this? News Talk eleven ten Now an

(01:12:27):
I'm three WBT at Brett Winterable Show. Good to be
with you. Let me grab a call real quick, Kurt,
welcome to the program. What's on your mind?

Speaker 12 (01:12:36):
Good? Asked manager and man? How you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
I'm doing well? Thanks for calling in.

Speaker 12 (01:12:41):
This individual, for lack of a better term, that just
stab this lady for no reason at all. What if
we just put him in prison and in like twenty
years we can review his case.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Well, I mean, look, if they've got video, I mean,
I know they're gonna there has to be a trial, right,
that's the system. But it's if they've got video of
it happening. I mean, to me, that's that's very that's
that's very bad. I mean, it means that we're not
taking the security seriously. Uh. And unfortunately, that's that's what

(01:13:16):
these folks are doing. Uh. It's it's they're they're gonna say, well,
you know what we have to you know, we have
to find out how this happened. We have to do
a fact finding tour. We have to see what's going
on with this, How did this happen. I've got a
bunch of people who are commenting about this, but I've
they're they're commenting in very similar ways. So listen to

(01:13:38):
this one. Okay, I'm not this is uh, this is
somebody who wrote in I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
use any names because I don't want to. I don't
I don't want to. You know, get people upset. Charlotte
is not safe because as hard as CMPD tries. The
liberal judges and magistrates, along with the mayor, City Council

(01:13:59):
and County Commission are soft on crime and let repeat
criminals out again and again. I carry everywhere I go,
regardless of what town, what part of town I'm in,
and I have tons of this. Scared of going anywhere downtown.

(01:14:21):
Will never ride the bus or train. Here's another one.
I do not feel safe in Charlotte special especially on
the light rail and the bus system. There have been
three or four homicides around those areas and stabbing within

(01:14:43):
the last six months in Charlotte. The homeless people that
are coming into Charlotte are more aggressive. The City of
Charlotte needs to get these homeless people and the mentally
ill people off the street and get them some help
instead of enabling them and get them back on the street.

(01:15:06):
I mean, I've got a ton of these making it
sound like it's nothing when it's really major, and we've
got a major problem in the City of Charlotte with crime.
Until she gets off her butt and quit lying about everything,

(01:15:26):
then we will be a whole lot better off that
she would be replaced. So I'm assuming that's the I'm
assuming that's vyliles that that's being attached to. We are
from rock Hill. This is somebody from out of the area,
but marginally we are from rock Hill. We moved our

(01:15:48):
son into UNCC a few weeks ago. The first thing
we told him was to only go downtown or on
the light rail if in a group, never alone or
just with one person. He found out quickly what we meant,
and he thanked us for the advice. Charlotte used to

(01:16:08):
have bad areas. Now we don't feel safe even in
nice areas. These are people who have lived through this.
If you want to solve problems in this town and community,
get rid of the people who are causing the problems.

(01:16:33):
Am I paying that this was premeditated. I believe this
guy had every intention of getting on the train and
killing somebody. This young lady just happened to be the
unfortunate victim of the attack. That is really heartbreaking, and
it's just really heartbreaking. Love your talk show. My county

(01:16:56):
does not have mech problem? Okay uh, And then we
got this. We get hopefully they will have him plead
guilty and be done so they're there. I mean, this
is this is like I've got a ton of these
coming in people saying they don't feel safe. So let

(01:17:18):
me pivot to this. Chicago doesn't want Donald Trump to
come in. Los Angeles doesn't want Donald Trump to come in.
Baltimore doesn't want Donald Trump to come in? Or would
you want to see would you want to see in
Charlotte the National Guard? Would you tolerate the National Guard?

(01:17:42):
Would you tolerate surging in Charlotte in these particular dangerous
areas that are that are that are causing people fear
and people who have been victimized? What do you have
to say about that? How about that? Barbara, Welcome to
the show. What's on your mind? Barbara? I guess we

(01:18:04):
don't have Barbara stan Welcome to the program.

Speaker 13 (01:18:07):
Hey, Brett, I'm talking you about something different just because
it came up and I know you're from you live there? Well,
the California two states.

Speaker 6 (01:18:22):
Yeah, I went to.

Speaker 13 (01:18:23):
School in California in the eighties and I saw this coming.
So they want to break it up into two states.
The GP has file petitions to try and get that done.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Now, why would you want to do that? Because you
will get you will end up with a situation where
you have just more liberals and more. You have two more,
you have another extra state that's going to be filled
with liberals anyways, So why would you want to do that?
You want to keep them together.

Speaker 13 (01:18:48):
Well, well, what's what they're trying to do is is
mate is all the ones that want to see the Republicans.
And I know from when I was out there. I
talked a lot of people when I was out there,
and basically the the part that is liberal lives off
the part that's conservative, and they are not represented. And
I think that by breaking apart and taking all of

(01:19:10):
the areas where they mostly would have Republican Republican governor
of Republican representation, that they would be more fair for
then well.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Then hold on and so then what's gonna happen is
we're gonna get Texas and we're gonna split that thing
all up, and then we're gonna go grab all the
other big states and split them all up. I'm okay
with the way the states are put together right now.
I mean, look, the reality is you have got places
where they are going to try to gerrymander every chance
that they possibly can. But the fact is, you know, look,

(01:19:39):
you've got Texas, You've got Florida, two huge states. You've
got California, which is a big state, no doubt about it.
In Illinois is a big state. But you know, looking
at the solid south here, pretty much I think is
going to be you know, a big part of this. Remember,
people are fleeing California. People are not staying in California.

(01:20:03):
They're running from California. They don't want to be there,
and that's that's the problem.

Speaker 13 (01:20:09):
Well, personally, I mean, if it was me and that
was my home, I mean, mine think would be to
stay and fix it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Well, you got to have the horses, you know. I mean,
I'm sorry, but I mean there's there's it's a it's
a hard way to do this, you know.

Speaker 13 (01:20:25):
That's that's at some point people have to get up sell.

Speaker 6 (01:20:28):
Like here in Charlotte.

Speaker 13 (01:20:28):
People don't have to get it upset enough to just
fix it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:33):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
I get that, I get that, but I think I
think what we need to do. If you wanted to
really go out there and change the country, change the culture,
all that sort of stuff, you have to go persuade people.
There's no shortcut to persuading people. I mean, it's it's
it's not it's just not you have to go out

(01:20:53):
there and do the work. You have to do the
things you have to say. Listen, what do you want?
We should do this, You should sign on this. We
should be all on the same page of prosperity and
privacy and all the stuff that we want. But there's
no shortcut. You can't shortcut yourself to Liberty News Talk

(01:21:25):
eleven ten. Now an I'm free WBT. How safe do
you feel? You're in the sound of my voice? How
safe do you feel? Barbara is up next, Barbara, Welcome
to the program.

Speaker 6 (01:21:37):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
I'm sorry that the first time that you called my name,
I had a guy walk up on my steps and
wanting to get my telephone.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
No, that's terrible, and I told.

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
Him no, and I told him to get the hell
out of here. Wow, I had my dog going to
the front port twist and then I told Pennda.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
The second No, what happened? What do he do? Did
he run?

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:22:07):
He ran.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
I'm glad you're safe. I'm glad you But that's not
the only.

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
Thing that's happened to me. In Charlotte. I had my
granddaughter uptown Charlotte and that she is now thirty five,
and she must have been about seven years old, and
we were going to the science center down there, sure,
and there were gunshots at the corner of Trade and

(01:22:32):
Try It Wow, And I told her, I said, come on, Logan,
let's go. I took her to a damn portopoly oh
across the street to keep her safe.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
Oh my gosh, that's terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
And then we were at the doctor's office across the
street at Randolph and we went across the street to
wind Is to get something to eat, and there was
a guy that had robbed the bank and he came

(01:23:07):
in and the police were already there and told us
to get down. I said, Rogan, don't you get there.
Come on. So we went out and stood beside a
brick wall, because I was not going to allow her
to lay there with a guy in there that wanted
to do harm. If he had robbed the bank, what

(01:23:30):
else was he going to do?

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Yeah, that's look, I'm I'm glad you've raised the alarm
on that, Barbara, and I do appreciate you calling me
my friend. It's a pleasure to speak with you. And look,
it's very sad to me to see to see cities
and places having to deal with things. But on the
other side of the the other side of the coin.

(01:23:54):
The only thing that we could really do is to
be alert and hope that at some point we're going
to get a much more aggressive approach towards towards crime. Generally,
you think about people who have their cars getting broken into.
One of the things that surprises me. And I'm not judging. Okay,

(01:24:17):
I'm not judging, but I've heard over the course of
the five years I've been here, I heard a lot
of reports come in where people leave their firearms in
their cars and then they get broken into and then
the firearms are stolen. I would never leave a firearm

(01:24:40):
in my vehicle on a public street, in a parking
lot like that's that's a firearm. Somebody wants to break
in and they suddenly get a hand on a glock
or they get they get a hand on on a
magnum or whatever it's going to be. Now that's dangerous.
Now that's a that's a totally different thing. I mean,

(01:25:01):
there is a way where you can mitigate criminality. Okay,
you just surge, you put the cops on the streets,
you you you do the things that need to be done.
But a lot of that A lot of that has
to also be common sense, like, don't leave guns in
your car. You can, you can, Oh, but how were

(01:25:27):
we supposed to put them? Lock them in a safe,
Lock them in a safe in the trunk. I mean,
if that's how you're transporting, I wouldn't leave one under
the seat. I wouldn't leave one, you know, in the dash.
I wouldn't leave one on the on the uh, any
of that stuff. People, You have to practice good hygiene
with firearms. Otherwise somebody's gonna get that gun and go

(01:25:50):
murder somebody, and they're gonna trace it back to you,
and they're gonna be like, well, what happened, Well, yeah,
I left it in my car. Sorry, too bad. I
shouldn't have done that. You have to be people have
to be serious about stuff like this. You know one
thing I have to say, and I'm not making a
joke about this, I admire I admire the fascistic nature

(01:26:14):
of Oregon and Hawaii. They have a they have a
very strong fascistic stream here. So you buy an electric car, right, Okay,
you buy an electric car. This is for everybody in
the side of my boy. So you buy an electric car,

(01:26:35):
and you say this is great. I'm not buying gas,
I'm driving on the roads. Everything is cool. I registered
the vehicle. Everything is cool. Oregon is about to join
Hawaii in mandating Okay, get ready for your head to explode,
because this is going to come our way at some

(01:26:56):
point mandating pay per mile fees for electric vehicle cars.
So you're gonna have to report or they're gonna actually
just suck it out of the computer and they're gonna
send you a bill saying, hey, Steve, Bob, Angie Joe,

(01:27:22):
we know you drove, we know you drove twenty eight
hundred miles last year. You owe us two thousand dollars
for the roadwear. That's what they're gonna do. That is
one hundred percent what they're gonna do. And when they
try to do that, when they try to do that
to you, I'm telling you it's nuts. Oregon could become

(01:27:45):
the second US state to require electric vehicle owners to
enroll in a pay per mile program, as lawmakers began
a session to try to fill a three hundred million
dollar transportation budget hole that threatens basic services like snow
plowing and road repairs. Not my problem, that's not my problem.

(01:28:10):
I bought this car. I'm not doing any I'm I'm
not burning any oil. I'm not doing any of that stuff.
Legislators failed earlier this year to approve a transportation funding package.
Hundreds of state workers' jobs are in limbo, and the
proposal for a road usage charge for EV drivers was

(01:28:30):
left on the table. So they're gonna charge you, And
here's what they're gonna charge you. Okay, now it sounds
like nothing. The u shage charge would phase in in
twenty twenty seven for certain evs and expand to include
hybrids hybrids in twenty twenty eight. So it's an electric car,

(01:28:53):
but now we're gonna put it into the hybrids. Okay.
Should the car tax sho the gas tax be approved,
EV drivers would have to either pay two point three
cents per mile or choose an annual flat fee all
you can eat for three hundred and forty dollars. Do

(01:29:16):
they do that here? They don't do that? Do they
do that in North Carolina?

Speaker 7 (01:29:20):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (01:29:20):
I do. It's two hundred and fourteen fifty for a
electric vehicle, off on one hundred and seven five for
for a hybrid.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
No good, no good, that's gotta go. That's that's got
that we know. We don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:29:35):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
When I buy a car, I buy the car, but.

Speaker 8 (01:29:40):
They charge you the tax when you when you get
your license plate and when you.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
You know what. That's why I buy all my cars
in Kentucky. O kidding, it's not really true. It's argu I.

Speaker 8 (01:29:52):
Saw my car is South Carolina. You still have to
pay the North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
It's Arkansas. Okay, I don't listen, come on now, but
I mean, but they're gonna when if you let them
do this, they're just gonna ramp it up more and
more and more. They're gonna squeeze you until you can
no longer squeeze anymore. That's a problem. I want my freedom.
I want my freedom back. I want my baby back. Ridden.

Speaker 11 (01:30:19):
Radio has changed our lives, and they change our lives.
Radio has changed our lives. Radio changed our lives lives.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
I wanna tell you about Radio News Talk eleven ten
that a nine three WBT final segment of the program. Okay,
I got a very controversial comment that came in here,
and to the extent that you want to maybe pick
up and call the phone line at seven four five,

(01:30:57):
seven eleven ten. This guy's a wise guy. But it
is kind of funny, but he is a wise guy.
He says, if you don't have a job, you shouldn't
get to enjoy Labor Day. Quick, quick, your thought. If

(01:31:19):
you don't work, you don't get to celebrate labor Day,
you better because well, look, technically, I guess that makes
sense because you know, if you're not working and you're retired,
every day is labor day. Like every day every day
is a day I see. I have thought about when

(01:31:41):
I would want to retire. I'm not one of those
guys that can I'm not like one of those people.
I'm not. I'm like a shark, not literally, but I'm
like a shark because I feel like you just got
to keep moving if you stop and you get said
into like I happen to know people who like to

(01:32:04):
play golf a lot and who like to also spend
time at the station, and you know, I admire that.
That's pretty cool, because like, you want to have one
foot in that pool and one foot in the other pool, right,
But but I feel like and and I'm I'm not.
Everybody's going to make their own decision, right. You might

(01:32:24):
you might have retired when you were twenty five years old.
You might have retired when you were fifty. You might
you might retire when you're eighty, Okay, whatever it's going
to be. I just I love talking to people, and
I love being on the air and doing this sort
of stuff. And I was always somebody who was a

(01:32:45):
little bit of superstition. I have superstitious tendencies on things.
And for example, I if somebody asks me, like, hey,
would you would you fill in on a different show
or something like that. Right, I love doing that because
one of the best pieces of advice I ever got

(01:33:05):
was say yes to everything until you can't do it anymore. Right,
They keep meaning meaning, it keeps you busy, it keeps
you you know, relevant, it keeps you with all that
sort of stuff. Now, in my case, I always say
yes within reason. Okay, so there's things that I would

(01:33:26):
not do obviously because I'm a moral person. But I
say yes pretty much to everything because I'm afraid it
will not come back to you again, like you'll lose
that touch. It's like standing on a on a surfboard
and you're riding You're riding the wave on a surfboard
and you're just going, wow, this is so great. This

(01:33:49):
is awesome, And then what do you want Do you
want to take that surfboard? You want to you want
to paddle back out and go out and then just
try it again and do it as much as you
can possibly do. That I think is means that you
like what you're doing. But there are people who hate
their jobs, but they do it because they know they

(01:34:09):
have to provide for their families. And that is a
very important point to think about. There are people who
get up every single day, who ride in their car,
who go to the place where they have to work,
and they certainly grew up at one time or another

(01:34:32):
and they had a vision for what they were going
to do, when they were going to do what they
wanted to do for the rest of their life. And
it doesn't work out, or they didn't plan properly, or
they didn't have the skill or any of that sort
of stuff, and yet those people still grind it every day.

(01:34:53):
I respect grinders. I respect grinders massively. People who go
and grind. People who get out there and do the
work and slog through it and go home and provide
for their families. Those are heroes. Those are heroes. You know,

(01:35:15):
we're talking about dangerous neighborhoods, or dangerous stuff or things
that are that are not right. And we saw this
terrible attack that took place this week. Overwhelmingly, America has
better people than we give our nation credit for the

(01:35:36):
person who will pull over on the side of the
road because they see that you've got a flat tire.
Those kinds of people. America is a generous place. We
have louts, just like every country has louts. We have
criminals like every country's got criminals. But what we have
here in the United States is opportunity a plenty. And

(01:36:01):
so when you when you think about about the heroes
and heroes come in all sizes, sportspeople, uh, celebrities, UH.
Military Uh. People that are unsung heroes, uh. First responders
going down the list, nurses, doctors, the people who keep

(01:36:24):
people alive. You think about you think about those poor
trauma surgeons in Minneapolis who were who had to go
in there and save those children's lives even though it
was ripping them apart, knowing that they had been wounded
and maybe mortally wounded and maybe severely wounded and all

(01:36:46):
that sort of thing. But the American spirit is alive
and strong, and you want to know why because we
run to the aid of others. We don't have trial
Bible warfare, we don't have the kind of stuff that
we see around the world. We are not getting shelled,
we are not getting hit by drones, we are not

(01:37:08):
being victims of all that other sort of stuff that
goes on because people can't sit next to each other,
can't live next to each other, can't be with other people.
That's what's amazing. And day in and day out, men
and women will punch that clock and they will provide
for their family. That is important. Those are heroes too,

(01:37:38):
getting up in the dark, coming back in the dark.
Those are the heroes. And I'm in awe of all
of them because for their work, they allow us to
inform and to laugh and to cry and to work.

(01:38:02):
Enjoy the holiday weekend thanks to Lonnie and George and
Anna and Pam. Breaking with Brett Jensen comes by next.
Enjoy the weekend News Talk eleven ten nine nine three
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