History, Patriotism, and More On The Brett Winterble Show

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Speaker 1 (00:20):
It is the Brett Winterbow Show seven four five, seven
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seven zero eleven ten. All right, let's get this thing underway.

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I've been waiting for hours and hours to get this
thing underway, and I want to start with this. They
say Washington is the beating heart of our republic, but
today it feels more like a casino where the chips
are favors, the drink are lobbyist funded, and the jackpot

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is influence. Too many arrive not to serve but to indulge,
not to build, but to brand. They come to party,
to posture, to profit, and in doing so they desecrate
the sacred. It's a fact. It's clear, it's understandable. Have

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you guys been following the saga of Mikey Cheryl, who
is running against a Republican for the governor's seat in
the state of New Jersey. Mikey Cheryl has made a
fortune since she's been in the House of Representatives, a

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fortune millions and millions of dollars. But let's get back
to patriotism, real patriotism. It's not a costume that you
wear on the fourth of July. It's not a slogan,
it's not a selfie or a SoundBite. It is a covenant,

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a covenant between the citizen and the constitution, between the
soul and the soil, between the living and the dead.
And many of the dead are still voting, who give
their last breath so that we could speak freely, worship boldly,

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and govern ourselves. We are not ruled by kings. We
are ruled by conscience. And that conscience is shaped by faith,
faith in God, faith in each other, faith in the
idea that liberty is not a luxury but a responsibility.

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Too many people are serving in Washington, dCas who do
not understand the sacred nature of the relationship that these people,
these weirdos, are entrusted with the philistines who troll for
clout and enrich themselves at the altar of self interest.
They're not leaders. They're looters, political looters who come to

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DC to try to get the hook up. They strip
the Republic for parts and sell them to the highest bidders.
They mock the very idea of sacrifice, of service, of stewardship.

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Think about that, the builders, the keepers of the flame.
We must reclaim the national narrative, not with rage, because
the right is on our side, but with resolve, Not
with cynicism, but with conviction. And I'm not talking about

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the sort of convictions that come upon people like Michael
Cohen or the crooked senator from New Jersey who is
now serving time. I'm talking about legitimate, real, honest conviction.
We must speak of duty again, of honor, of the Constitution,

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not as a relic, but as a living document breathed
into existence by men who feared tyranny and trusted providence.
Our people are not broken. They are burdened, burdened by
the lies coming from the schumers, burdened by the lies,

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by division, by the erosion of meaning. But beneath the
burden is a yearning, a yearning for truth, for unity,
for something that is worth dying for. And that something
is America. Not the brand, not the bureaucracy, but the

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idea of America, the idea that free men and women
under God can govern themselves with wisdom, with courage, and
with grace. America is one of the most incredible places
that you could go anywhere, you have the opportunity to

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do anything you want. And we watch these these so
called representatives representing what avarice, avarice, theft more care about

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people who would just as easily turn their back on
the United States of America as they would turn a
handle on a door. Oh, we have to spend, spend,
spend for these people, the huddled masses. Yeah, tell me
about the the victims. Tell me about the folks who

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came to this country and loved this country and made
something of this country, only to be betrayed by the Bidens,
the Harrises, the Millies, the Komi's, the Swallwells, the Pelosis,
only to be sold out by those people. So let

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us speak plainly, let us act boldly. Let us remind
the nation that patriotism is not passe. It's prophetic. It's
the call to love your country, not because it's perfect,
but because it's yours, mine, ours, because it's worth the fight.

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And if we do this, if we rise above the noise,
if we rise above the trolls, and most of all,
when it comes to the capital city, the profiteers, we
will not just reclaim the narrative, we will reignite the republic.

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Tell me I'm wrong, she calls me.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Laughing on with the favorite math.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Guess stones, I'm.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Coming to first. Who's Talk eleven, ten ninety nine three
WBT got a special giveaway coming up at three point thirty.
You're going to want to stick around for that. In
the meantime, let's reach out and grab some phone calls.
Let's start off with Cheryl. Cheryl, welcome to the program.
What's on your mind?

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Hi, Brett brit Thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
Yes, ma'am, I just am kind.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Of curious why no one's I haven't heard of anyone
doing the math, and math isn't my strong suit. But
let's say conservatively, we have twelve million illegals in this country.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Uh huh.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
If we have twelve million illegals, Trump's only in office
for forty eight months, right, that's two hundred and fifty thousand.
So then you divide that, let's just say thirty thirty
days a month. That breaks down to eighty three hundred
and thirty three a day. We're deporting anywhere near that,

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so it's not really going to fix the problem. It
helps when we deport the those who have committed crimes,
and I think that's extremely important, but with so many
in this country, I think they need to maybe figure
out another option. If you haven't committed a crime, then
and I think you should come legally. But if you
haven't committed a crime, then give them a work visa

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and the path to citizenship where they if they come
and they work for five years, then give them a
path to citizenship. They shouldn't be able to receive any
of our any government aid during that time.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
I do believe that there is a number of people
who have who have self deported themselves because of that
offer that's going with the Homeland Security Department saying, listen,
if you go back to your home country, we will,
we will, we will. You know, let you try to
come back into the country down down the road. But
the problem is there are there are bad ombres, and

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there are just regular people, right and so I trend
to trend a Aragua, right and and the gangs, those
are people that are prioritized. Right now, every once in
a while you'll see that someone will will unfortunately get
swept up in a in a in a sweep and
they're just they're just a regular person who's who's not
bothering anybody. But I think I think it's the the strategy,

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at least from my understanding with Homean and uh And
and Christy Nome, is to go after the felons, the
criminal criminals, and work on that first. So that that's
I think what that's what I think they're trying to do.
So if we trying to lay out all the number,
we don't know that it's twelve million, it might at
this stage of the game be ten million, It may

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two million, may have gone away already, or or when
Donald Trump got elected. Not it is it is, yeah, no,
it is, but it is. But I do.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yes, you've partaken my call. I've got an appointment.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
All right, you're welcome, Thank you very much. Yeah, call
back anytime. Absolutely, I'm happy to take the calls. Dean,
Welcome to the program.

Speaker 6 (11:08):
Dean hi Brett.

Speaker 7 (11:09):
Hello, thank you for thank you also for taking the
calles Sir.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
I listen to your last segment, and I agree with you,
and I think everybody sort of agrees with.

Speaker 6 (11:21):
You about what we want, the people want.

Speaker 7 (11:24):
My problem is.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
And maybe you know you can explain.

Speaker 8 (11:29):
We're not given that choice.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Give it's the way the world's evolved or you know
till today.

Speaker 6 (11:38):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 8 (11:39):
Yeah, Yes, we've had Biden, We've had Harris.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yes, we had Trump.

Speaker 7 (11:43):
Yes, So what's the solution then, I mean, you know
to want it as well?

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Are you looking are you looking for a pre baked
solution or are you looking at trying to create a
different sort of approach in your own life? Because that's
what that's where you have the most influence is talking
to people in your in your community, in your in
your nearby restaurants and things like that. And you know, look,

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you're not you don't have to save the entire world
to save the world. You have to save the requisite
number of things that have to happen so that you can.
You can still do that, Dean. And oftentimes we have
this conversation and you know, we do not want the
uh we we don't want the enemy of the perfect.
You know what I'm saying. It's it's just it's it's

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one of those deals. Uh A U n C professor
on administrative leave over alleged ties to anti fascist organization.
I don't buy the word anti fascist. I just anti fascist.
It doesn't I think it's like LARPing. What people do.
What they did back once upon a time was heroic,

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but nowadays it's much more uh utilized.

Speaker 6 (12:54):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
And if anybody ever had you know, a patent or
or a A and a to claim the anti fascist movement,
I think it wouldn't be this particular character that I'm
about to give you. UNC Chapel Hill placed one of
its professors on administrative leave this week, following reports that

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he was associated with the group that describes itself as
quote now this is their self description, an anti racist,
anti fascist community defense forum. Dwayne Dixon is a teacher,
an associate professor at UNC's Asian and Middle Eastern Studies program,

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and an activist who has participated in demonstrations around the Triangle.
Is on the is on leave as of Monday. The
university Media Relations department announced the News and Observer was
covering this particular story. The decision followed recent reports and

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expressions of concern regarding the alleged advocacy of politically motivated violence.
But that's right on brand with antifa. That's right on brand.
Placing doctor Dixon on LEVI will allow the university to
investigate the allegations. Everybody should just take it from me,
innocent till proven guilty. This is a person that has

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decided to, you know, go out and do some things.
And you know, when you look in some of these
things that have happened in the wake of the murder
of Charlie Kirk, you know, get you get to sit
back and you say, Okay, whoa, this is maybe a
little dangerous. This is something a little scary. On Saturday,
Fox News reported that Dixon is a member of the

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Redneck Revolt The Revolting Rednecks No No Redneck Revolt, a
group founded in twenty sixteen that describes itself as an
above ground militant formation that stands for organized defense of
our communities. The group is against white supremacy, capitalism, and

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the patriarchy. I double dog dare you to try to
unwind that in reverse. Go ahead and tell me how
you're gonna get rid of the patriarchy and capitalism and
then and then the white supremacy thing. It just seems
like you've got far, far too broad of a mission.
I think you need to try to make it much
more focused so that folks will will feel something quite

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different all the way around.

Speaker 9 (15:36):
But I mean, look, You're allowed to belong to whatever
group you want. You can be part of whatever you
want to be. That's the beauty of America. Maybe go
run for Congress. I'll bet you.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
I'll bet you this guy would be central casting for
Swallwell and a Crocket. Where's Crockett? We haven't seen Crockett
in a month of Sundays. What happened to her? It's
like she disappeared. Ilhan Omar Rashida Talib I can see
this fellow filling right there. He should run for Congress

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and they'll vote for him. Uh. There in in Raleigh,
I am Brett Witterbowl. All right, ladies and gentlemen, I've
got something so special for you that I I really
am amazed that that that that you wouldn't want this.

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This is something that is so cool. So you guys
know that we are doing the great celebration of of
the commemoration of Kings Mountain right.

Speaker 8 (16:42):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
And let me tell you something here, Okay, Liberty Mountain
is an unbelievable show. It is incredible and we've got
a special night coming up WBT night at Kings Mountain
Little Theater. Uh, Tuesday, October the seventh, Now that's seventh right.
October seventh commemorates the anniversary of the actual battle that

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helped to turn the tide on the Revolutionary War. It's
also gonna be WBT night. So we want you to
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show and say hello. That's what I say. Let's go
out and talk to Greg. Greg, welcome to the program.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
Hello, how are you, sir?

Speaker 1 (18:01):
I'm well, thank you.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
I didn't know I was just if you knew this.
But I'm watching the news right now through Twitter. And
what's happening is France UH seized a Russian.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Tanker and and who who is who called the UH
the tanker? Was? It? Was it Emmanuel Macron, who was
concerned about.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
This, Well, no, I mean it's it seems that things
are just escalating. I mean I've been following the Russian
Ukraine war since it happened, and it seems that it's
just escalating.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, we we have I have that story. I do
appreciate the call, Greg, Thank you very much. When folks
call in, make sure your your radio is down, because
it's gonna it's gonna distract you when when we're trying
to have a conversation. So here here's what I want
you to know. The French President Emmanuel Macrone said Wednesday,
that's today, that an oil tanker if the French coast

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had committed a very serious wrongdoing, and linked it to
Russia's shadow fleet, which is avoiding Western sanctions over Moscow's
war in Ukraine. The tanker was sailing last week off
the coast of Denmark and was cited by European naval
experts as possibly being involved with drone flights over the country.

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Breast not a body part, but it's the Prosecutor's office said.
A judicial investigation has been opened into the cruise refusal
to cooperate and failure to justify nationality of the vessel.
The ship's current status wasn't clear. It left the Russian

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terminal in Primorsk, near Saint Petersburg on September the twentieth,
sailed off of Denmark and has stayed off the coast
of the French western at San Nazir since Sunday, according
to the Marine traffic monitoring website. Macrone suggested that it
was stopped by French authorities intervention, saying that I think

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it's a good thing that this work has been done
and that we've been able to stop it. There were
some pretty serious wrongdoings made by the crew, which is
why there are legal proceedings in the case. Macrone said
on the sidelines of the European Summit Union leaders and Copenhagen,

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Denmark that he didn't elaborate and France's maritime authorities did
not immediately respond to requests for details. So what do
we have here, Well, if you grab a ship of
a nation that is sovereign, that can be a pretty
rough deal. This could go two different ways, right, this

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could be a causes BELLI, this could be a causes belly.
By the way, we've got a winner of those tickets
will be given away more. Don't don't, don't, don't you
worry about it. You can you can have a problem
with other countries. So if you go grab the Russian ship,
that might be the excuse where Putin decides, Hey, what
do you say we just start going west again. Let's

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just let's let's take our fleet, our aircraft carriers, our
our fighter jets and go do a flyover over Europe.
There's that possibility. There's also the other possibility that this
guy is really desperate, that he's really desperate, and what
he wants is maybe he wants some kipper herrings or
or something like that. He may he may just have

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a have a hanker in for a hershey bar. Maybe
he can't get that over there in uh in Russia.
But this is one of those things where they can
spin out of control pretty quickly. And I don't know
about you, but I'm old enough to remember the movie
Hunt for Red October. What if there's a what if
there's a sub what if there's a boomer underneath that

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that ship? You just never know what are you gonna
do with that?

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Then?

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Oh boy, you bet you this thing could amplify very
very quickly coming up in just a little bit. I'm
gonna give you a very interesting sort of sort of
a thing that you need to know. Isaac doesn't like
me talking about it. I need to talk about it,

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even though Isaac says, don't talk about it. I have
to do it because it turns out a scientist has
come out and said, this thing that's up there in space,
you know, the thing that's up in space. Apparently back
in nineteen seventy seven, they tried to make a communication

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to this part of the universe, and they have evidence
how out that you know what that is. To me,
it sounds like they called in a reservation and now
they're ready all these years later. For table of fifty
thousand billion News Talk eleven ten, not a nine three WBT.

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It's the Brettwitable Show. Great to be with you, seven
h four five seven eleven ten.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
All right.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Normally I talk about this topic usually at the end
of the show, close to the end of the show.
But this is an important topic. This is a very
important topic, and it's the AI Atlas. Okay. Now I
would normally not bother you with this in this early
in the show, but this is big, like, this is

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a big deal.

Speaker 7 (23:53):
All right.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
The phrase ai Atlas comes from Avi Lobe, who's the
guy from Harvard who's been watching this thing fly around
up there in space. Okay, now, this thing's gonna disappear.
They we already know it's gonna disappear, but then it's
going to come back. Okay, three iye Atlas. Okay, ai

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Atlas three ie atlists. Okay, here we go. So this
thing is gonna go out and it's gonna come back.
It's gonna show back up at some point. Now listen
to this. This is the craziest sort of thing that
I can think of. We have to go back forty
eight years. Forty eight years, all right, so listen to this.

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The AI Atlas nineteen seventy seven is what they called
it back then, nineteen okay, nineteen seventy seven. Message likely
refers to claims by Avi Lobe that the three Atlas
interstellar object did send the WOW signal in nineteen seventy seven.

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So we're going back forty eight years. Some of you
people will remember nineteen seventy seven. It just so happens
that that was when Star Wars came out originally, though
the signal's origin is not definitively linked to the interstellar object.
The WOW signal was a strong radio signal detected in

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nineteen seventy seven, and while it was initially speculated to
be an alien message, recent theories, including Lobes, suggests that
three i AT lists could be the source of the message.

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So it's making its way coming this way. Been out
there for years and years and years, and it's coming
this way Leibs theory. Lobes theory is still being debated,
with some scientists suggesting that the signal might have come
from a natural source or a different object entirely. What

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is it? A strong narrow band signal detected on August fifteenth,
nineteen seventy seven by the Big Ear radio telescope at
Ohio State University. Which, by the way.

Speaker 10 (26:38):
Which, by the way, which, by the way, you know
what you got? Who's the NC two A champs right now?

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Right now? Who's the champs? Who won the title last year?
Ohio State, Ohio State, So this thing nineteen seventy seven,
Ohio State. A strong narrow band radio detected on August fifteenth,
nineteen seventy seven, by the Big Ear Radio telescope at

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Ohio State Universe why is it significant? It's the most
famous candidate for an extra terrestrial See, Isaac and Lonnie
have just walked out of the out of the studio entirely.
It's just unbelievable. They just they can't they can't handle this.
I'm mister skeptic. When it goes to space. Yes, yes,

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it's the most famous candidate for an extraterrestrial transmission ever detected,
and was named for an astronomer's handwritten exclamation of excitement
on the computer printout. According to Scientific American, that's back
when they used to have like just paper going into

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the roles. What can that chime in for?

Speaker 7 (27:57):
Milk?

Speaker 1 (27:57):
You go ahead. Lonnie's out there freaking out. I don't
like any of this. Why it's it's all it's happening.
This is the happening. Noah, I understand it's happening.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
I'm just a fan.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
In September twenty twenty five, AVI Lobe proposed that the
interstellar object three I Atlas, which entered our solar system
in nineteen seventy seven, could be the source of the
wow not the wow, the wow wow what. We can

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all meet up and talk to them, see what they want.
We gonna talk to him. Maybe they're deliverance, maybe just
sending Chinese food to us or something. I mean, I
don't know. It might be good. I think this is
a good way to go. Didn't you ever see Close
Encounters of the Third Kind? I didn't like it. That's
a great movie, is it? Everybody knows that. I'll take
exactly seven calls on why Close Encounters of the Third

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Kind is the greatest movie in movie history. Even if
I gave you it's a great movie, you know it's
not great. What's not real life happening? Why? Because it's
not doing anything to us yet. It's it's what are
they What are they gonna do? There's potential for problem.
Tow us out behind the you know, tow us out someplace,
take the planet, take us out behind the woodship. Take

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not gonna take us to the wood ship. I'm not
buying this. Look, you have a whole bunch of stuff,
did you. You guys are in here all night long,
listening to Nori and all that kind of stuffy point.
That's what I'm saying. So this is this is gonna
be like a thing, you guys. Man. I never thought

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I never thought i'd have to. I'd have to see
the day where people who love outer space are scared.
Now suddenly, that's all I'm saying. I hate space. I
don't go to space, but I monitor it from a distance.
You know, that's what I do. I just I need
to be knowledgeable about this, and I am don't tell

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my h o A. I am digging a pit in
my backyard to be safe for when it happens. I
think you think they can get FM. You're just trying
to play it cool, my good friendly relationship. No, no, no, no, no,
but this is this is a real story, like, this
is not a This is not nonsense. I did say
it was nonsense. It's not nonsense. You know, a little nervous,

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you know, if you will, Okay, fine, I won't talk
about it anymore. No, no, no, we're done. We're done.
It's it's they sent us the signal. We gave them
the high sign. Come on now, I mean there, Look,
I understand why they came here in nineteen seventy seven. Okay,
I understand. Uh. You know, the biggest hits of nineteen
seventy seven were pretty remarkable. I mean that's how we

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got to warm you know, we gotta make sure we
give them a warm you know, sort of set up here,
give him at a warm woke Andy, Yeah, yeah yeah,
Rod Stewart, Tonight's the night gonna be all right. I mean,
come on, even Lottie likes Rob Stewart, Andy Gibb, I
just want to be herevering Fellma Houston's Don't Leave Me

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this Way? That could have been the song. That could
have been the song that set it off.

Speaker 11 (31:07):
Pure Nie slapper Man, Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Debbie Boons, you light up my life? Well, we are
gonna get lit We're gonna get lit up by these guys.
Yes we are. They heard the music, They heard the music. Listen,
you people complaining, you people complaining about the halftime show coming.

Speaker 12 (31:27):
Up with that guy. It may not be a halftime show.
Maybe a quarter time show, a one ten time show.
Oh yeah, yeah yeah yeah, come on now come.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
On, that's what we got, oh interstellar planetary. Here we go.
All right, we got another two great hours straight ahead.
I got a great guest coming in from Liberty Mountain.
It's gonna be awesome. Stick around. I'm Brettwitable.

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Speaker 1 (32:16):
Check it out. News Talk eleven, ten ninety nine, three WBT.
It's the Brett Winterble Show, Hour number two underway, and
we're gonna get right to the business. Senators are leaving Washington, DC,
ensuring that the shutdown will last until at least Friday.
Maybe cooler heads will prevail. You just never know. Let's
wait and see. I put my I put my my

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my card down this morning when I was talking to
Bo and Beth, and I said, it's gonna go four days.
I think it's going to go four days and they're
gonna shut it down and come back to work. That's
my that's my bet. That's my best guess. Maybe you
guys have a different one as well. That's totally cool.
I want to talk about the notion of safety and secure.

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Safety and security. The people who are most vulnerable are
the people who can least have the chance to get
to a safer place, all right, So I want to
talk about this from a perspective called outcome based justice. Okay,
we used to have outcome based education. I'm going to

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go with outcome based justice. So why do we tolerate
a system, broadly speaking, across the country where failure is
funded and success is punished. Now, we measure everything in
America sales, clicks, wins, losses, but when it comes to

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public safety, we measure nothing but excuses. We don't reward results,
we don't in incentivize protection, we don't punish betrayal, and
so we drift. Imagine a competitive modeling for policing, not

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a race to the bottom, not a profiling sort of thing,
but a race to restore order, outcome based justice. You
clean up the hot zones. I heard Pete Cowen are
talking about this earlier. You clean up the hot zones
and you earn. You dismantle the gangs and you get remunerated.

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You protect the innocent, you earn. But if you betray
the badge, if you plant evidence, if you abuse power
or sell your soul, you're going straight to the same
cell block that you helped fill. No shield, no sanctuary.

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It's not about militarizing streets. It's not about doing any
of that. It's about moralizing the mission. We know where
the hotspots are, we know who the repeat offenders are,
We know which neighborhoods are bleeding. So why not run

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strategic sweeps to break up the criminals who trend de
Aragua MS thirteen, a local gang, whatever it is. If
they're costing people their lives, why are we not targeting
in that regard. So much of policing seems to be

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catch as catch can. But the fact of the matter is,
we know whose neighborhoods are bleeding. We know why we're
not running strategic sweeps. We are not deploying rapid response
justice teams with constitutional oversight and community backing, because we've

(36:20):
allowed the narrative to be hijacked by whom activists and bureaucrats,
by ideologues, by those who confuse leniency with compassion, but
compassion without accountability. That is chaos. The enemies of society,

(36:44):
those who prey on the weak, who traffic in fear,
who sell women boys girls, men, who turn playgrounds into
war zones. They're not misunderstood. They understand the malevolent exactly,
and they must be confronted with righteous force. But here's

(37:09):
the twist. The righteous must be held to the same standard.
No dirty cop gets a pass, no rogue agent gets
a pension. You break the law, you join the lawbreakers.
That's justice, that's integrity. Remember everybody you come into contact

(37:35):
with when you are doing policing, those people are paying
your salary, so you should always treat people with respect
and not go too far. You break the law, you
join the law breakers. That's justice, that's integrity. This model

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is not just about arrests. It's actually about outcomes, convictions,
restored neighborhoods, lower recidivism, higher trust. It's about turning law
enforcement into a mission, not a machine. It's rooted in faith.

(38:22):
Faith in the constitution, which demands equal protection, faith in
the people who deserve safety, faith in the idea that
justice is not just a slogan but a system, a
system that works when it rewards the good, punishes the wicked,

(38:47):
and never forgets who it serves. This is not a
hard thing to do. You benefit the folks that are
doing the hard work, You protect the community, and you
make sure that these communities do not fall into ruin.

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Every kid's got a right to be able to go
out and play outside. Every person has a right to
be able to walk down the street and go to
the market. Everybody's got that right as an American, as
a human being. So let's do this. Let's stop funding failure,

(39:29):
Let's start rewarding results. Let's build a justice system that
competes not for power, but for peace. What do you say,

(40:06):
news Talk eleven ten that a nine three WBT Brett
Waterbule show good to be with you seven o four
five seven zero eleven ten. All right, Hamas doesn't work
in Germany? Now what is going Why is this all happening? This,
This doesn't make any sense to me. This this this,
this is a person who is this is a person.

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These are people who are looking to try to create
a problem. And uh, you know I I I was
in Germany last year and I was you know what.
I was in Germany last year, and you know what?
It was right after Thanksgiving. I'm there in Germany, and
I gotta tell you that was when the guy got

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got in the car and drove over all those people
at the Christmas market. Very very scary reality. I wasn't
anywhere near it, but it was, it was, It was
happening in that in that sort of vain. Germany has arrested.
Germany has arrested suspected Hamas members accused of procuring weapons

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to target Jews or Israeli institutions. German police they don't
play by the way. The German police are serious. That's
a serious police department. The German police arrested three suspected
Hamas members who were allegedly procuring weapons for assassinations targeting

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Israeli or Jewish institutions. According to German prosecutors in a
statement Wednesday, the three who had who the police had
identified by their first names and initials of their last names,
were charged with membership in a foreign violent terrorist organization

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and preparing an act of violence endangering the state. The
suspects were arrested in Berlin and are scheduled to appear
before a judge tomorrow. Two of them are accused are
German and the third was born in Lebanon since at

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least the summer of twenty twenty five. Prosecutors claim that
their statement that the three have been involved in procuring
firearms and ammunition for Hamas. I thought we were trying
to get a peace deal, or are we supposed to
try to get a peace deal. Why would Hamas want
to be murdering people Jewish people over in Germany if
we're trying to get a peace deal, what is this

(42:40):
all about? Doesn't make any sense to me. I mean,
this is absurd in the extreme. During the arrest, the
prosecutors say they found various weapons, including an AK forty
seven assault rifle and several pistols and a considerable amount
of ammunition. Hamas denied any connection to the suspects in

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a statement on Wednesday. What were they gonna say, Oh yeah,
those are our guys. Oh man, this is just Hamas
denied any connection to the suspects in a statement on Wednesday,
calling the allegations that they are the members baseless. The
militant group claimed further that it limits its struggle to

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Israel and the Palestinian territories. They don't go to Germany. Yeah,
the whole You just get a big sharpie and you say,
only here's where they go an attack. Only only there,
That's the only place they go to attack, right, Okay.
Sure police have arrested suspected members of Hamas in Germany before.

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In December twenty twenty three, German and Dutch law enforcement
arrested for people accused of plotting to attack a Jewish institution,
and in Europe, according to Reuters, some call it routers.
I don't. The four went on trial in Berlin in Germany,
so uh, there you go. No, it's not us. We

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we we stay completely away from any place that's not
where we're targeting. Yeah, okay, thanks, thanks, thanks much, Stan,
Welcome to the program. What's on your mind?

Speaker 7 (44:24):
Stand? Okay, most of the time you've already seen everything
and I want to talk to you about But if
you heard the idea idelt I Definitition League. Yes, a
other Christian organization said hate groups, parist groups.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Yes, Yes, we talked about We talked about I talked
about that with oh John Lott back on Friday, he
was on the show and we were talking about that. Yes,
that report.

Speaker 7 (44:52):
Okay, but do you know why they did it?

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Do I know why?

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Who?

Speaker 1 (44:58):
And what did they do? Go ahead?

Speaker 7 (45:00):
What do you got Their reasoning is? Is that because
the thing that appeared to them that the Maga movement
and the white Pavilions country were supporting nationalism like for
the Nazis.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, I did. I did have that conference. Yes,
because I talked to John Lottney and he disabused all
of that stuff that they were trying to push. And
it's really they they basically cobbled together like certain kind
of ways to make it look like it was this
particular thing but not another thing, and that that's a
real problem, right.

Speaker 7 (45:35):
And you also know that they provide this training and
they work closely with law enforcement like they do.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure they Look there's a lot of
groups that have done this. Okay, they do their review
or they do their their their breakdown. We used to
have the the what was it, Oh my gosh, I'm trying.
They used to have the other group too that would
put these reports out all the time, and it was

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always because they were going to target conservatives or they
were going to target uh, right wingers and stuff like that.
Southern Poverty Law Center that was that was another.

Speaker 7 (46:11):
Well and it also to be noted that they did
not have ANTIPA or Black Lives Lives Matter and listed
as is in those groups.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Well, no, that's true, that that that is true. You
know what else they tried to ascribe to was the
shooting at the festival in Las Vegas when you had
like three hundred people getting shot, uh at that at
that Halloween celebration what about five six years ago, and

(46:38):
they they tried to say that that guy, the guy
who was up in the in the building was was
affiliated with some group. Nobody even knows who this guy is.
We never ever heard anything about that guy after after
that massacre. It's just it's bizarre. So, yes, I do
understand all the stuff that you're talking about. Yes, but
and it's.

Speaker 7 (46:56):
Almost like that all the grit and they started out
with good intentions, like a lot of institutions in this
country did, and things like that, they're getting infected by
like and now listeners on pig Calendar show all ago
they're getting infected by Marxist groups and they type them
and then they use their credibility.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Well what happens is, okay, so here's what happens though,
all right, what happens is it's the notion that you've
probably seen in the movie Casa Blanca, right round up
the usual suspects. So that's sort of the way they go.
It's not like a forensic analysis. It's more like, Okay,

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here are all of these incidents that have happened, and
now since those incidents have happened, we have to figure
out the motivation. Now some of these, in fairness, some
of these or a few of these are pretty clear,
like what we saw happened in Denver or back a

(47:58):
couple of months ago, when that go I decided he
was going to go target Jews who were just calling
for people to come and deliver their their loved ones
from captivity there over in in in Hamas, right, And
so those are things that they ascribe. Those are those
are the challenges that we've got to deal with. But

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unless they're doing like an actual deep forensic analysis, everything
else is sort of just the same, the same sort
of notation that goes back and forth. And so that
that's one of the things that's that's difficult now.

Speaker 7 (48:32):
Now it's also ironic that they originally their mission was
to to uh stop the defamation of Jewish people, yes,
and work and clearing just society for all. Yes, And
yet that's now happened to Jewish people and they're not
saying a lot about that.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
I would say, go back on Friday, go back to
the Friday episode. You'll be able to hear the analysis
with me and John Lott. I appreciate the call Stan.
It's always good to catch up with you. I have
got a tremendous guests who's going to be joining us
here in just a couple of minutes, and uh it
is somebody who is one of the very very important

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actors coming up with the Liberty Mountain of production that's
coming up here. It's going to be absolutely amazing. We'll
be guesting with Robert Ryles. Robert Ryles is going to
be joining us straight ahead. I I mean it is,

(49:40):
by the way, it is almost Halloween and the Prince
of Darkness is, you know, bringing us in. Of course,
it's great to have you. I've got a great guest
in studio, that's uh, that is I'm very excited about.
And it's a he is Robert Ryles, who portrays the
Reverend Kenzie in the production of Liberty Mountain. Right, that

(50:06):
is correct? Oh, so how long have you been portraying
that particular role. I'm glad that you brought that up.

Speaker 11 (50:16):
I am a first year, first timer, how about that.
And it's a very interesting story how I got involved
with the production. I do the reading of the Mecklenburg
Declaration uptown each year on May twentieth. Awesome and Jeremy
and Ashley were there this year. They saw me doing
the reading, and then they also saw me at a
different event at the Museum of the Wax Saws in

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Union County, North Carolina for the Battle of the Wax
Saw's event, and I was doing a program about a
historical figure, a reverend during the American Revolutionary War. His
name was Reverend William Martin. Very parallel, interesting kind of
parallel stories to the Walter McKenzie immigration part that we
have in the play.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Interesting.

Speaker 11 (51:00):
And they saw me and then they asked me. It's like,
have you ever done any community theater and any theater
at all? And It's like, no, I never have. They said, well,
would you be interested in joining the gas this year
for Liberty Mountain. It's like, oh, let me think about that. Yes,
that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
That is out. Okay, so you're a newbie.

Speaker 11 (51:22):
I'm a newbie, yes.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
But you're but listen, I'm sitting here in the studio
with him, and you have got an unbelievable outfit that
you have. It's really really great. I taking a look
at this. Thank you.

Speaker 11 (51:35):
I figured I might as well dress up for the
part here absolutely just to give you an idea. What
I have here is a hunting shirt made of linen,
which is the common type of material that they use
for the clothing back in the day, linen and wool,
typically cotton not so much, yes, you know. And then
of course I have my linen breeches.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Yes, he's right here, he's got them right.

Speaker 11 (51:58):
There, come up to the knee and knee only, and
then of course the stockings and then especially made shoes.
But these shoes are actually for the production for safety shoes.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Oh, that's fantastic by their safety shows. Then we're not
gonna tell, We're not gonna We're not gonna let anybody
here get that secret from us. How long have you
been you were talking about reading the Meckelburg and all
that sort of stuff. Have you always been a history buff?
Have you always been wanted to be a part of
history and things like that?

Speaker 11 (52:28):
Absolutely? Yeah. I Mean the first exposure that I got
to being bit by the public history bug was back
in the nineteen eighties when I went with my mother
and father to a trip to Williamsburg participated in a
little militia drill there. Nice that planted the seed for me,
that experience of experiencing it live is what planted the

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seed for me. And then years later got a degree
in history from Florida State University apologies to those South
Carolina North Carolina at Floria's State kind of a bachelor's
and a master's degree in public history. And I started
volunteering at a historic site there in Tallahassee that was
the seventeenth century Spanish Mission site. And I started going

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over to Saint Augustine, Florida eighteenth century, got involved in
black powder, moved up here in Charlotte area of two
thousand and nine, fell absolutely in love with rev War.
I've been doing it ever since.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Revoir meaning the Revolutionary War, Yes.

Speaker 11 (53:24):
Sir, that Revolutionary War.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
See that is cool. Now. We were just talking before
we got on the air about the notion of the
characters who are in this incredible drama, right, and one
of them you were talking about with the person who
was able to manufacture quite a lot of black powder.
Can you talk a little bit about one of those characters?

Speaker 4 (53:48):
Sure?

Speaker 11 (53:48):
Absolutely, That was Mary Patton, who is also portrayed in
a really good scene in the play about the role
of women during the American Revolution. Mary Patent manufactured black
powder for the cause of independence during the American Revolution,
five hundred pounds of black powder whoa or manufacturer and

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donated to the Whigs, in other words, the patriots for
this battle.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
So when when you talk about the two sides, right,
and it's really there's really two sides plus other characters
that are involved in this and in the theater. I
saw the performance a couple of years ago and it
was magnificent and you are completely enveloped in the process
when you guys are doing the performance itself, and it

(54:39):
does take its own it does take a beautiful sort
of turn from tragedy to even a little bit of
comedy even into what the big the big battle that
happens that is a big undertaking in that beautiful theater
at the Joy Theatre.

Speaker 11 (54:58):
Absolutely and it it is a team sport without a doubt.
You know, we don't have football pads, obviously, but we
have layers of clothing that we wear. But it truly
is a monumental effort to put together. And a shout
out to Bob Inman and the years of dedicated work

(55:19):
that he as a playwright has done to tweak that
play each year, to make it nuanced and slightly different ways,
brings different stories to light. And also hats off to
Jeremy Holmesley and Ashley Damar and that team for really
bringing it together. Jeremy has been with this production since

(55:40):
the very beginning. He's a wonderful director to work with.
We have a wonderful team that's been assembled. The castage
is incredible and the production values are really great.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
It is amazing. You are surrounded, It is amazing. It
is remarkable. And one of the things I want to
reach out to the audience here is to say, listen,
you want to get these tickets, and you want to
come and see us, and you want to spend time
with this this incredible event. Liberty Mountain Drama dot com,
Libertymountain Drama dot com, youn go to info at Libertymountain

(56:14):
Drama dot com and you can get those get those tickets.
We've got a very special night coming up here on
October the seventh. That is correct, and that happens to
be the exact date of the actual battle there at
Liberty Mountain.

Speaker 11 (56:31):
Two hundred and forty fifth anniversary or commemoration sure of
the Battle of Kings Mountain.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Kings Mountain, and it's incredible.

Speaker 11 (56:40):
And it's what's really fortuitous about this particular evening is
that with the government shutdown and with the closure of
Kings Mountain National Military Park as a consequence of that, right,
this gives people an opportunity to experience Kings Mountain in

(57:02):
a different way, in a different format. So for those
who have purchased tickets for the nighttime walking talks at
Kings Mountain USh Military Park or planning to go to
the commemoration, we are here for you. Yes, we also
have matinee and evening performances on the fourth and fifth

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as well, when that commemoration event was to occur at
King's Mountain National Military Park.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
And you can get those tickets again at Libertymountaindrama dot
com or info at Liberty Mountain Drama dot com. Can
I keep you hostage here for another segment?

Speaker 11 (57:39):
By all me?

Speaker 1 (57:40):
All right, let's do it. This is absolutely fantastic. I
love this performance. I love this play. It is so wonderful,
and Robert Ryles is sticking around with us here for
this next segment. My name is Brett Winterbules Loose Talk eleven,

(58:04):
ten ninety nine three WBT Brett Wooterbowl in studio with
Robert Ryles, who portrays the Reverend McKenzie in the play
Coming Up at Liberty Mountain, that we're going to be
able to come and see October the seventh. You want
to get these tickets, we're gonna we're giving some of
them away, but we want you to come out and

(58:24):
spend time with us at the WBT night that night.
And it's a pleasure to have Robert here in studio
with me. So I understand that there was there was
a a little bit of a tension back in that
time period among the different sort of folks that were
believing one way or another and things like that. So

(58:44):
can you give us at a little taste of what
this might have happened and looked like.

Speaker 11 (58:50):
Sure? Absolutely well. During the American Revolutionary War, it was
assumed that in South Carolina, based on faulty intelligence, that
there were more loyal those who wanted to support the
king than patriots. All right, So that was part of
the Southern strategy, which meant going through South Carolina, conquering
South Carolina, doing the same in North Carolina. After you

(59:13):
have all these loyalists support, presumably in South Carolina and
presumably in North Carolina and then go into Virginia. That
was in a nutshell the strategy, well, it didn't exactly
work out that way. There were a large number of
loyalists in South Carolina that made up Patrick Ferguson's army,
and for the most part that was pretty much it

(59:36):
South Carolina loyalists. You did have some British provincials. Those
were loyalists from New York, New Jersey, you know, those
damn Yankees recruited it to serve in the British Army
as provincial soldiers that were also there at the Battle
of King's Mountain. But this was also a war America's

(59:57):
first Civil war arguably where he had brother fighting against brothers,
sometimes father against son. And there's a really good book,
if I may show your time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Absolutely.

Speaker 11 (01:00:09):
The book is by Randall Jones. The title is Before
They Were Heroes at King's Mountain, which gives a really
great detailed overview of all the events that lead up
to the Battle of King's Mountain, the significance of the
year of seventeen eighty, from the collapse of Charlestown through
the summers seventeen eighty very dramatic time, and then of

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course the description of the battle itself. What's great is
that Randall Jones also provides some great examples of brothers
fighting against brothers. And if I may, I've got a
couple of packages.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Okay.

Speaker 11 (01:00:44):
The first one, Bowen and Cleveland did not know one another,
and they fought for the same side. Others on the
mountain that day knew each other well and were enemies.
The Logan family of Lincoln County had two sons, William
and Joseph, fighting for the Patriots and against their brothers,
John and Thomas, fighting on behalf of the crown. Thomas

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was badly wounded and left on the field of battle.
His brother John would be taken prisoner and marched away afterwards.
In another instance, a wounded Tory recognized his brother in law,
a Patriot and called to him for help. Look to
your friends for help, came the stern rebuke as the
patriot moved on.

Speaker 7 (01:01:24):
Wow.

Speaker 11 (01:01:24):
That was one example. Second example, if I may just
rope sure briefly, one family from Rutherford County lost four
sons in the battle. Preston go Forth fought for the Patriots.
His three brothers, including John, were among the Tories. Preston
and one of his brothers may well have been the
pair Colonel Shelby later recalled. Two brothers expert riflemen were

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seen to present at each other to fire and fall
at the same instant. Another patriot noticed heavy and accurate
fire coming from inside the hollow shell of a chestnut
tree through a hole in it. He fired several shots
through the small hole, silent seeing the firing from within,
He later looked inside the shelter to discover he had
killed his brother, a Tory. The shock and grief overwhelmed

(01:02:10):
the man, and he became almost deranged in consequence.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Wow, so really brutal. Stop. Absolutely, it is really the
first Civil War.

Speaker 11 (01:02:20):
Yeah, in many ways, without a doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Wow, folks, you want to get these tickets, You want
to come in and see this. It's gonna be absolutely incredible.
Libertymountain Drama dot com. Libertymuntain Drama dot com. We happen
to have a satisfied customer on the old Let's check
in with Doug. Doug, welcome to the show.

Speaker 8 (01:02:40):
Hey, gentlemen, how are you today?

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Great?

Speaker 11 (01:02:42):
Doing great?

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Doug awesome? Well, Reverend I wanted to comment. I took
my daughter to see the play on the second day
it opens, and I thought it was wonderful. Whether you
know everything about King's Mountain or nothing, it was really great.
But I wanted to call and say it's great for anybody,
any age. We had a really good time, and I

(01:03:03):
thought you did an excellent Irish accent. And I think
the guy that played King George was hilarious worth the
price of admission alone. I was a little surprised because
I'm related to Colonel Campbell that came down from Virginia,
which I wasn't sure I hear anything about him in

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the play, but I did, so that was also fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
How about that?

Speaker 11 (01:03:27):
Well, that was I really appreciate that. That speaks to
my heart very well. I'm so grateful for that. And
I will pass that compliment onto Julian who portrays King George.
All these young people, if I may, all these young
people work so incredibly hard. If you could just see

(01:03:49):
about five minutes, what is like backstage.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
I can imagine okos that happens.

Speaker 11 (01:03:55):
I mean Julian, the guy who plays King George, for example,
he plays about three different you don't you see him
with speaking lines as King George, but he also plays
a Bandit in a couple of other scenes with a
clever handkerchief covered over his face, so you can't recognize
that that is the actor who portrays King George. That's

(01:04:15):
a little trade secret.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Oh all right, you're gonna be looking for that. That's it.
I gotta I gotta keep an eye out. My eyes
peeled on that one. Listen, it's so wonderful to have
you in here, Robert. Robert Ryles, who portrays the Reverend
Mackenzie in the in the play for you know, a
Battle Liberty Mountain, final pitch. What's your favorite moment so far?

Speaker 11 (01:04:42):
My favorite moment so far, quite honestly, for me, is
and well, it involves my character, so I'm unabashably giving myself,
of course. But the height of the discussion in camp,

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where the principal figure saying, boys, we're here to defend
our liberties and our sensibilities essentially, and then Reverend Mackenzie
comes out, and what he does is very powerful. He
quotes from the Book of Joshua and the story of Gideon,

(01:05:31):
and then in a very dramatic moment, he yells the
same cry that presumably Reverend Samuel Doak had cried out
at the Battle of Sycamore. I'm sorry at the Sycamore
Shoals muster ground just before the over Mountain Men went
on their quest to find Patrick Ferguson.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Great stuff, and I'm not.

Speaker 11 (01:05:52):
Going to reveal what that not going to reveal what
that is, but all I can say it's for me.
It was just a wonderful moment and I love performing
it every time. Phenomenal, But there are so many moments,
Oh sure, so many brooms.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Well, they're gonna have to come and see it. That
absolutely gotta have them do. Absolutely. I'm so happy you
came into the studio here today. Robert Ryles, he portrays
Reverend Mackenzie in the play. You got to get these tickets,
ladies and gentlemen. It's absolutely going to be phenomenal. Libertymountain
Drama dot com make sure you buy those tickets. You
check them out, and we cannot wait to see each

(01:06:28):
and every one of you enjoy this. News Talk eleven

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ten ninety nine to three WBT Brett Witter Bowl our
number three underway and if you've missed any of the programs,
don't forget you can always go back and listen to
us there post it up every single night, all the
entire show itself. So if you've missed a moment for it,
do not miss it. It's gonna be totally great and

(01:07:09):
it's gonna be awesome. Now let me jump out with
just a little bit of sound and then I'm gonna
go take a call from Robert here in a moment.
But let me go with this. This is Chuck Schumer
on the shutdown Cut number one, the Schumer shut down. Well,
how long is it gonna go go?

Speaker 14 (01:07:27):
What if I persuaded? My call is to say I'm
gonna shut the government down. I'm going to not pay
our bills unless.

Speaker 8 (01:07:33):
I get my way.

Speaker 14 (01:07:34):
It's a politics of idiocy, of confrontation, of paralysis. Shutting
down government over a policy difference is self defeating. We
can never hold American workers hostage again. While the CR
bill is very bad, the potential for a shutdown has
consequences for America that are much much worse. Therefore, I

(01:07:59):
will vote to keep the government open and not shut
it down.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
That was you three times that do it?

Speaker 14 (01:08:08):
Yeah, that was in March, John, before they had done
these horrible things to healthcare, before they had introduced these
recisions which would allow them to ignore the budget process.
And the bottom line is, when I was Majority leader,
we had thirteen times to vote on a budget. Do
you know why there was no shutdown. We sat and
negotiated with the Republicans every time they got some things,

(01:08:31):
we got some things. They did not negotiate at all.
They refused despite repeated entreaties by Jakim and me to
go to the White House to sit down with Thune
and Johnson. Look, if you want to know who wants
to shut down, look at the House. Johnson had the
House adjourn all this week, so they couldn't even even
if the Senate had come up with a solution, they

(01:08:52):
couldn't vote on it. But now that they've seen they
can't bludgeon us, they can't roll us. Hopefully they're going
to sit down and negotiate and negotiate now, not kick
the can down the road. We got they've done. It's
been forty five days, forty five days, forty five days,
and they've never done anything.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Hold on a minute, wait a second, Chuck Schumer, is
he's using like very very violent imagery. They can't bludgeon us,
they can't they can't force us, they can't do any
of that. Kind of stuff. Wait one second here, this
is nonsense. This is nonsense. The fact of the matter
is Donald Trump has outplayed your game with Chuck Schumer.

(01:09:31):
You have to understand something here. Whether it's the videos,
whether it's the montages, whether it's any of that sort
of stuff, this is something that is happening in real time.
We are watching real time stuff happening here. And so
look at what President Trump has done. Right. He wanted

(01:09:52):
to keep going, he wanted to keep negotiating, he wanted
to keep talking all that sort of stuff. And what
did he do? He gets them with a set split
right there, a seven ten split. You've got Hakeem Jeffries
sidelined and you've got Chuck Schumer sidelined. Now, so you
know who's gonna come in. Oh, get a load of this,

(01:10:14):
Get a load of this. You'll hear it in the
next segment. Let's jump out and talk to Robert. Robert,
welcome to the program.

Speaker 8 (01:10:21):
Hey Brett, you bring it every.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Night, dog, Thank you, sir. I appreciate that.

Speaker 8 (01:10:26):
Yes, sir, I'm not a big bowler. I've bowled some,
but I know that seventeen split is almost impossible. But
I have played a whole lot of pool. And when
I was playing a lot of pool, I could run
the table at a fairly decent rate. And the Republicans,

(01:10:47):
led the President and led by the Vice President, the
disposition versus versus Schumer and even Hakeem Jeffries, it's as
usual Tomocrats have just chosen the wrong side of this,
of this shutdown issue. They uh, Mike Johnson gave them

(01:11:07):
a clean continuing resolution.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Yep.

Speaker 8 (01:11:10):
There were no no poison pills on there, no uh no,
no pork, et cetera. And they, despite what they've done
in the past, Uh, they're on the wrong side of
this one. And it's so it's so obvious.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Yeah, it is. It's obvious in that regard. And uh,
what else you got? Well?

Speaker 8 (01:11:31):
Speaking about j D, I saw him. I saw him
with Caroline Levitt today at the at the White House
briefing room podium, and boy, I was. I mean, we
all know Brett how sharp JD is. He is sharp,
but he he was, he was, he was he was
fielding those questions, uh, in machine gun manner as far

(01:11:55):
as just just rattling off answers.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
One by one.

Speaker 8 (01:11:59):
And whether it's JD is our nominee in twenty eight,
or whether it's Marco Rubie who also like I think
we're gonna be in very good hands.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
I think it's gonna be an interesting thing to watch.
One of one of my favorite things that he said
during the back and forth with the reporters was I
don't know any of your names, so I'm just gonna
call you out by your shirt. And I thought that
was that was a That was a pretty good say,
you know, ability to kick saveing a beauty there, you
know what I'm saying. I mean, that was pretty good stuff.
Thanks so much, Robert for being out there. We always

(01:12:30):
appreciate the conversation, and certainly that opens up a couple
of lines for the rest of you. Seven oh four
five seven zero eleven ten. Seven oh four five seven
zero eleven ten. I am going to reveal to you
who the next leader of the Democratic Party will be
in the Senate straight Ahead News Talk eleven to ten.

(01:13:01):
That nine three WBT. I have an issue with some
of the weather coming up momentarily, but first let's go
out and listen to AOC. AOC is now assuming the
position of leadership inside that Democratic Party. I know she's
not going to be totally open about this, but listen

(01:13:24):
to this cut number four, please go.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
And I saw some Republican members of Congress saying, oh, well,
if we have this shutdown it's because of AOC. Well,
if that's the case, my office is open and you
are free to walk in and negotiate with me directly,
because what I'm not going to do is tolerate four
million uninsured Americans because Donald Trump decided one day that
he wants to just make sure that kids are dying

(01:13:49):
because they don't have access to insurance. That's what's not
going to happen. And so if those senators think that
we're having a shutdown because of me, they're free to
enter my office and negotiate, because what we're not gonna
do is allow all of millions of people in this
country to not be able to afford their insulin and
their chemotherapy. So come strike and deal with me if
that's what they really think is going on.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Wow, how about that? How about that Jim in San Diego,
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 6 (01:14:18):
Wow, Yes, sounds like she's gonna wave her magic medical
wand and take care of everything.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
But but but I didn't realize that the Republicans wanted
to kill all these kids. That's something that's that's remarkable.
That's a that's a terrible thing for her to say.

Speaker 6 (01:14:32):
Yeah, well, you have to get rid of all the
opposition and liquidate everybody as much as you possibly can.
And then after, yes, after you've done that, they start
liquidating all the people that liquidated them. That's how it works.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Okay, okay, So let me ask you a question. So
I want to ask you a question because have we
have we not given enough sort of credit to what
Pete Heckseth did yesterday by bringing all these generals in,
and admirals in, and and and and commanders, and because
I it seems to me like that speech that he

(01:15:07):
gave yesterday just kind of fell into the to the ether.
What what's your take on this, Jim?

Speaker 6 (01:15:14):
Yeah, they were not there to cheer him on.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
They are.

Speaker 6 (01:15:20):
There is his subordinates and they are taking orders. There
never is a time you can have caedul panter around
the the water cooler after or you know, make a
little remarks and stuff. Yeah, as you're being told what
to do, But they are not there to be his audience,

(01:15:40):
there there to carry out his orders. So people have
to understand that this is not this is.

Speaker 7 (01:15:46):
Not a.

Speaker 6 (01:15:48):
Like a rally. This was him telling them that whatever
made you a general, what made you in ten and
eleven and twelve team, is probably not gonna be in
place anymore, and you're gonna have to do it three
sixty as far as your code of conduct. Okay, So

(01:16:10):
there are people there, there's them, Jord. Of those people
are people who are aspiring to be politicians. And that
is the problem with the flag rates in our oh
no are in our military. Yeah, there are probably about
ten more officers for every command. That then there needs
to be the lower lower casement officer cor though they

(01:16:37):
are very very necessary because of the highly advanced and
technologically advanced types of equipment.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
Okay, okay, so hold on, I'm gonna catch you. I'm
gonna hedge off at the pass. This is a drill
instructor responding to Pete. Hegseth. By the way, she's doing
this in uniform, inner car and I want you to
hear this, and I want you to critique this cut too. Please.

Speaker 15 (01:17:03):
Good afternoon everyone. So today I just wanted to come
on here and tell you that at your leader, it
doesn't any type of leader right. You could be a
drill sergeant like me, a section n CEO, a platoon sergeant,

(01:17:25):
a first sergeant.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
And if you think that you.

Speaker 15 (01:17:31):
Are gonna have the capability to be disrespectful, to be malicious,
to be spiteful with people's careers, with the people that
work for you in general, just remember, Karma knows your name,

(01:17:53):
and sooner or later she's gonna charge it. So treat
people with kindness and respect.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
How about that, Jim?

Speaker 6 (01:18:02):
Yeah, she's a d I d I even the Karma
is a female in her little world. And sorry, Heckset
has taken everything in the barracks and turned it upside down,
throwing Mayby on the floor and said.

Speaker 7 (01:18:15):
Do it again.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Wow, Wow, great stuff, Jim. I appreciate you calling in
on the show today. Thanks very much. All Right, that
was a great That was a great outing. I thought
that was a great outing. He seemed like a little
a little bummed. That was a that was Did he
say she was a d I de I person drill
instructor dee? I? Okay, what month is this? This is October? Correct?

(01:18:42):
Are we living in October? Right now?

Speaker 7 (01:18:45):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
I got an issue with October. I'm not an October fan.
And I don't want anybody to get emotional or upset
or anything like that. But you know what I hate
pretty much October. Why, it's kind of a scam. It's
the month that shows up like it's got something profound

(01:19:07):
to offer. Ooh, look at me, it's autumn. I'm cozy,
I'm pumpkin spice. But really it's just the prelude to
the seasonal depression and candy based peer pressure. That is
what October is. Let's start with the candy. By the way,
I hate candy. I'm not a candy guy. It's sticky,

(01:19:30):
it's loud, it's basically sugar and drag, and don't give
me that. But it's Halloween. Can't do that. People are
already eating the Halloween candy. They don't even wait. You know,
when you go to Christmas, when you have Christmas, when
you have Hanukkah, when you have even Thanksgiving, they're on

(01:19:50):
designated dates, but everybody's snacking. I just saw a couple
of minutes ago somebody eating a payday in my presence,
and I, you know, I sit back there and I go,
hold on a minute, wait a minute, why are we
doing this. It's not Halloween. Yet you gotta wait, you
gotta wait for the Halloween. Halloween is just coastplay for

(01:20:10):
people who peaked in middle school. I don't want to
dress up. I don't want to answer the door. I
do actually like answering the door. I don't want to
pretend your kids costume is clever. No, I love the
clever costumes, especially like the Abraham Lincoln's and the motorcycle guys,
though those are always fun too. They drive around up

(01:20:33):
in the neighborhood. I want to be left alone. Is
that so wrong? And don't get me started on the sun.
It's gone clocks out six point thirty. Why are we
doing this? Why are we not fighting for more sunshine?
Like it's got dinner plans? Suddenly I'm driving home in
the dark like I just got fired from a vampire

(01:20:56):
temp agency. That was good? Is you got it? Come on?

Speaker 13 (01:21:01):
That was a win?

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
What happened to swimming? What happened to swimming? What happened
to daylight? I was just getting good at pretending that
I liked being outside. No thank you, no thank you
at all. But no October rolls in with its crunchy

(01:21:24):
leaves and spooky vibes. And now I'm supposed to carve
a gourd and pretend it's festive.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
No, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
You know what I'm carving. I'm carving a path to November.
Cause Thanksgiving, That's what I'm carving. Let's skip the tricks
and go straight to the turkey. Let's start shopping for
Thanksgiving gifts. Yes, Thanksgiving gifts. I want to start this

(01:21:51):
new tradition. Why not nice pair of socks for Uncle Frank,
A scented candle for Aunt Judy that smells like not
talking pop politics. Let's get ahead of Christmas. Let's start
wrapping things now. I'll give you a gift if you
promise not to invite me to your haunted hay ride.

(01:22:16):
October is for people who like being cold, sticky, and scared.
I am none of those people. I am a man
who wants peace, light and maybe a brisk walk in silence.
So if you need me, I'll be inside, not decorating.

(01:22:37):
I am going to be handing out candy, just waiting
for the calendar to come to its senses. Am I writer?
Am I right? News Talk eleven ten nine three WBT

(01:22:58):
Brettwaterble Show, Good to be with You, four five seven
eleven ten. All right, let me let me get a
look at this here real quick. So I just got
a message. I can't remember where it went. I got
a message. Oh okay, So this is Tina saying AOC

(01:23:18):
will definitely replace Adam shifty shift. I think she's gonna
end up. I'm dead serious. I think she is going
to end up as the as the majority or minority leader.
I think probably the minority leader, because I don't think
that the Republicans are going to lose the Senate anytime soon.
I think they're going to actually expand. I think they're

(01:23:40):
gonna be able to pull off a number of things.
We had another person asking me if I was swimming
in the warm water. I swim in the cold water
because I do not want to swim in the warm water,
because the warm water is where all the creepy crawleys
come and get you. And that's no good. By the way,
don't forget. We have got an incredible nightcing up on

(01:24:01):
October the seventh. October the seventh, up there in King's Mountain.
It's gonna be phenomenal. The Joy Theater. You gotta buy
your tickets in advance. You gotta get it it's the
WBT night that we are all going to be together
at Liberty Mountain, the Revolutionary Drama. And you just heard
a phenomenal guest spending time with us talking about the battles,

(01:24:24):
the history, all of this stuff, all of the stuff.
It's it's it's massively important, you know, when you go
back in time like they they did back during that
period of time where you had to make a decision
of who you were going to fight for. Were you
going to fight for the crown or are you going

(01:24:45):
to fight for liberty? That was the battle. That was
the decision that had to be made, and it certainly
divided families. It divided people in a variety of different ways.
But even back then, even back then, as you heard
him talking about Mary Patton, you know, people had to

(01:25:05):
do the things that they had to do to defend themselves. Now,
nowadays we sort of take for granted safety insecurity. I
think that that's a fair point. We take safety in
security for granted. Now, many people in the sound of
my voice, live out in the open and they do

(01:25:27):
their stuff and everything is great. Then you have closed communities, right,
you have communities where there's security, there's gates, you have
to punch in the code when you go in there
to visit your friends or any of that sort of stuff.
But I do think people put a massive premium on

(01:25:50):
being safe, being safe because nobody wants to have somebody
come through a window, rob you, kill you, assault you,
whatever that is. Now, they didn't have this problem in
one thousand years ago, right, because what did you have.

(01:26:11):
You had cities that were walled. You had waled cities.
You had areas where bad guys, brigands, thieves, murderers, invasions
could not come in because you would mann the massive
gate and you would be safe. Would you live inside

(01:26:32):
one of these places in the modern era, given how
dangerous some cities are now, you cannot make it perfect.
But if you think about history, that's what civilization was,
from Jericho all the way up to Constantinople, from the
castles of medieval Europe to the gated enclaves of modern America.

(01:26:57):
The waled city has always been the answer to chaos,
a perimeter, a promise, a line drawn between order and entropy.
I love the word entropy, but I don't like entropy
because it's chaos. It's another word for chaos in ancient times,

(01:27:20):
those walls meant survival. They kept out raiders, they kept
out armies, plagues, etc. Inside you had markets, you had temples,
you had the law. Outside you had dust, danger and death.
Who stood at the gates mercenaries mercenaries, guards stood at

(01:27:42):
the gates, Soldiers of fortune stood at the gates. Men
not for love of the city, but for loyalty to
the coin. And yet they held the line. Think about today.
Fast forward to today. The walls are digital, the guards

(01:28:03):
wear suits, the city's a country club. And the mercenaries, well,
they're contractors, lobbyists, private security firms, data brokers, paid to
protect the elite, but not the people. Paid to preserve comfort,
but not the community. You have to be a very

(01:28:25):
special person.

Speaker 7 (01:28:26):
You have to be.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
Jeff Bezos living on an island. You have to be
somebody like George Soros. You have to be somebody like
George Klooney, Joe Biden are all of these folks because
they have the means and the abilities to be protected.
But what about you when you have to ride the rails,

(01:28:51):
when you have to ride the bus, when you have
to drive in the dark of night or the early
morning hours to get to your job. You just that
you can get to and from, and maybe you send
that little love note or that text message, hey I'm here,
Hey I'm on my way, or any of that sort
of stuff. But here's the thing, here's the twist. The

(01:29:15):
instinct is the same. You build a wall, you higher muscle,
you keep the chaos out. So what does that say
about us? It says we've abandoned the idea of shared sacrifice.
We've outsourced protection. We've turned citizenship into a subscription. If

(01:29:36):
you can pay, you can be safe. If you can't,
you're exposed. But the original walled city wasn't just a fortress,
It was a covenant. The guards weren't just hired, they
were honored. The people inside weren't just consumers, They were
contributors to They built the walls, they manned the towers.

(01:29:59):
They prayed for the centuries who were protecting them. Today
we need to ask, are we building walls to protect
virtue or to isolate it? Are we hiring mercenaries to
defend the innocent or to shield the indulgent. Because if
the walls are to be built and are to be

(01:30:20):
kept out of accountability, if the guards are paid to silence, dissent.
If the city becomes a playground for the powerful, then
none of us are safe. We're imprisoned by comfort. True
safety comes from a shared mission, from constitutional thought, from

(01:30:43):
a people who believe in something bigger than themselves. Not
just gated communities, but guarded values. That's what this is
all about in this country, in this time. So yes,
build the walls, build the wall, but make sure that
they protect the soul of the republic, not just the
perks of the privileged. And if you must hire mercenaries,

(01:31:08):
if you have that means, make sure they serve justice
and not just the highest bidder. I apply that to
the city of Washington, d C. As well, because we
are in charge of the People's House and the Senate.

(01:31:46):
I think this could be a contender for.

Speaker 11 (01:31:53):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
I'm not gonna say it. Never mind me, I'm looking no,
because this song is so good. Here can keep it going.
This is a great song. It's almost like a secular
national anthem. That's not the national anthem. This song don't
you tread on Me? It's all about don't tread on me.
I mean, this is this is why we fought the
brigs and why we took them to the cleaners. I mean,

(01:32:19):
you know what I'm saying, Am I right? I'm exactly right.
I mean, like this would be a great song on
a battlefield in seventeen eighty right here, fired up. We

(01:32:42):
don't want to be treaded on you. That's it right there,
and that's why we we have got like the most
patriotic audience in all of radio. People come out. They
love what it means to be an American. They love
the opportune here. They love all of this and the
dirty little secret that people never want to acknowledge. They

(01:33:05):
love their neighbors. People love their neighbors, even the weird ones. Nah, yeah,
that's true. I'm right. The fact is this country, like
I've had the blessing of traveling, seeing things, meeting people,
stuff like that, there is no place that I get

(01:33:27):
happier when I return to my home, when I return
to the station, when I return to to communities. Because
Americans are special. I'll take I'll take three calls on
this if you want to disagree. Americans are special. Americans
are are remarkable. What people don't understand about the United

(01:33:52):
States and about the people who live here, all right.
Number one, you can immediately affiliate as an American. You
go through the process, you fill out the paperwork, you
do all the stuff that you need to do, and
you get to be in America. You don't have to
be like, oh, well, you know, you got to be

(01:34:13):
seven generations deep to be in America. No, you can
come here and you can realize your dream. Whenever I
see people who are bummed out, sad, not happy, I
think about the sacrifices that their forefathers and four mothers

(01:34:35):
did to come across the oceans to come to the
United States of America, to come and be here with
no guarantee. There might have been no benefits, no ability
to do anything other than blood, sweat, and toil. And
you got these people that were living in buildings, ramshackle buildings,
way way up and all sorts of stuff like that.

(01:34:58):
But with enough earnest sort of approach, you can do
anything you want. And it's not hype. People will tell
you that's hype. It's not true, it's really not. This
is the sin. This is the sin that we deal
with with people who give up, who give up. And

(01:35:19):
I'm talking about this doing legal things and important things
and stuff like that. You should never feel like you
can't do what you want to do in the United States,
as long as it's legal, as long as you're not
hurting other people, as long as you're not trafficking human beings.
You have everything at your disposal to be successful in

(01:35:40):
the United States of America. Period. And these college professors
will come out and they'll tell your kids, especially coming
up on Thanksgiving when they come home for the holidays,
and they start spouting off all this crazy stuff that
America stinks, and America is not great, and none of
our sacrifices matter, and religion is dead and all this

(01:36:03):
sort of stuff that these professors are pumping into their heads.
Just understand something. A person that would warp a young
person's mind is a person who is not worth listening
to because they're not edifying their students. They're not saying, listen,

(01:36:27):
go pursue your dream, Go see what you can do.
And you know what, in some cases, they're gonna want
to go and do something that maybe might not be
your cup of tea or my cup of tea. But
darn it. Let these young people who go to college
decide what they want to be. Don't program them with
your smelly stinky Winston's cigarette stinking up the whole room,

(01:36:54):
and you yelling at them because they don't comport to
what you comported to. Once upon a time, every one
of these pink ocami leftist professors were not warped yet,
and they decided, well, I guess I'll just give up.
I won't fight for what America is. I won't defend
what America is. All that sort of stuff. I'm telling

(01:37:15):
you right now, you've got to get prepared because when
Thanksgiving comes around in another month, and plus you're gonna
want to be able to counterprogram your kid if they're
coming in with crazy ideas. The fact of the matter is,
and this is what people should understand, you are lucky
to be born here. You are lucky to emigrate here.

(01:37:38):
You are lucky to set foot here, even for a moment,
because you will bring something back to your homeland, even
if you're not becoming an American. Everybody in the world
wants to live here. Everybody in the world wants to
be successful here. Why because anything is possible. Anything is

(01:38:03):
possible if you do the work. Is it a guaranteed success. No,
But it doesn't mean that you have to get paid
to be a success. It's none of that. And that's
the thing that people forget about when I think back
to this conversation we just had about Liberty Mountain and

(01:38:24):
about the Battle of King's Mountain, and go get your
tickets over there. I'm telling you it's going to be
amazing on the seventh of October. These people had a choice,
and I guarantee you, in their lasting voice carrying across

(01:38:45):
the battlefield, I will guarantee you that as they fell
or as they succeeded, they would never have wanted to
be any place but the fledgling United sis States of America.
And they would give anything for one more day in

(01:39:05):
this modern era to be a part of the greatest
country in the world. Thanks to Isaac, Lonnie, Anna and Pam,
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