Identity Theft Exposed Today On The Brett Winterble Show

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Brett kicks off the program by talking about identity theft and the devastating fallout facing an ordinary Minnesota family after a Guatemalan migrant illegally used a U.S. citizen’s Social Security number. He highlights the story of Dan Cluver, a married father of two, who has endured 15 years of debt, IRS penalties, garnished wages, and even involvement in a wrongful-death lawsuit — all because an undocumented worker assumed his identity to gain employment.

Brett questions why federal authorities allow this pattern to continue, blasting what he calls the government’s failure to incarcerate or deport offenders who inflict economic and emotional harm on law-abiding Americans. He criticizes the New York Times for soft-pedaling the severity of the damage while portraying the migrant sympathetically. Brett argues that Cluver’s ordeal exposes a broken system — one where normal citizens pay the price while bureaucratic agencies look the other way.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:17):
News Talk eleven ten, nine to three WBT. It's the
Bretwiner Bull Show. It is great to be with you,
and we will be breaking down all the big stories
from across the weekend and into this day itself. I
want to begin with something that I think is very,
very important, and it's something that, for the life of me,
I can't understand. I thought that we lived in the

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United States of America. I thought this was the land
of the Free and the home of the brave. I
thought this was the place where people came to make
themselves a better person, to build something here in the
United States of America. All this stuff, I believed it
with every fiber of my body. And then I see

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this story. Don't worry, we got a lot of outrage,
but this story in particular, My God, A Minnesota father
is suffering debt and fifteen years of hardship due to

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an illegal Guatemalan stealing his Social Security number. Why do
we not incarcerate them? Why do we not deport them?
Why do we not send them to other places? The
Department of Homeland Insecurity is detaining document fraud migrants who

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inflict massive economic and civic damage on ordinary American families,
normal people, not the illegals coming in. But the normal
people are paying the price. The New York Times sketched
the identity theft damage done to a guy by the

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name of Dan Clover. He's from Minnesota. He's a married
father of two where he lives in Olivia, Minnesota. The
damage was done by a migrant, an illegal migrant who
worked long hours in another state until his arrest by

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the Department of Homeland Security in March. The Guatemalan migrant
used Clover's ID to get a job. The employer reported
the wages to the Infernal Revenue Service, which then demanded

(02:57):
extra taxes from Clover's family. The identity theft also dragged
Clover into a wrongful death lawsuit after the migrant killed
an American in an auto accident. The author wrote. Some

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years the other fake Dan Clover had earned more than
his own salary at a local sugar beet factory, which
pushed the total income under the real Clover's Social Security
number into a higher tax bracket as the debts started

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to mount. Twice he'd concocted law enforcement and contacted law
enforcement and filed an identity theft report with the Federal government,
where it landed in a pile along with tens of
thousands of other migrants, all of them stealing identity. He

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waited for relief while the infernal Revenue Service docked his
annual returns and garnished his paychecks, costing him thousands. This
man had nothing to do with this Quatamalin. Finally, a
few months before their wedding in twenty twelve, Christie right

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Christy decided to pay off the balance, emptying her savings
and sending in a check for six thousand dollars. Their
relief lasted only until the next tax season because of
the Guatemalin who's not supposed to be in the United
States working, and another bill arrived because of the Guatemalin migrant.

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This one bill was twenty two thousand dollars. In a
note attached to the article, the author Eli Sasslow, said,
Daniel and his family actually spent tons of time and

(05:26):
an insane amount of energy and money trying to untangle
this mess. I think there's a misconception that it's easy
to solve identity theft. He protested his debts, went to
the IRS, visited social security offices around the state, and

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filed police reports three times. There were a few years
likely when the Guatemalin migrant was to put when his
taxes were normal and he thought the problem had been solved,
but it would start all over again because the Guatemalin

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who came into the country illegally continued to do the
thing he was doing. Dan Clover is in debt and
has fifteen years of hardship. He did not deserve ladies
and gentlemen. However, the article approved by The New York

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Times pro migration editors do not disclose how much Clover
and his wife and children were required to pay the
IRS due to the purported fraud by the migrant. Deep
in the article, the New York Times admitted that the
IRS's oversight system was backlogged with a million suspicious numbers

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almost eighty thousand reports of social security fraud in the
last six months alone. The Times soft pedaled the damage
done to Clover, the real Clouver, under sympathy for the
Guatemalin the migrant Romeo Perez Bravo. By the start of

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twenty twenty five, the Watemalin was preparing for another graveyard
shift in Saint Joseph, Missoura, lacing his work boots in
the dark and drafty rental while his wife and five
children slept. He packed their school lunches for the next day,

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drove to the dog food factory, and gathered his coworkers
to say their nightly prayer. Then he swiped his badge
to begin another twelve hour shift, and Daniel Clover sinking
deeper into an identity that wasn't his own. By the
time Trump was elected to his second term, there were

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five children in Perez's house who also depended on the
money that came each Friday in Clover's name. Most were
US citizens, ranging from four to nineteen, who answered his
Spanish with English and hosted birthday parties at the Olive Garden.

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This is what the New York Times does. The article
is silent about the employers who accepted the Guatemalans clearly
fake ID numbers, and is silent about the legislators and
the Congress and the officials at the IRS who did
little or nothing to stop the fraud. For twenty years.

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This man has been tortured for twenty years. His lawyer
advised him. His lawyer advised him because this march, local
police and the reinvigorated Department of Homeland security finally aided
the American citizen by arresting the illegal immigrant who has

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stolen his identity. The newspaper reported it this way. His
lawyer advised him that he was essentially out of options.
She also managed to postpone his case until at least
January twenty twenty six, but he faced a mandatory minimum
of two years in prison, followed by deportation to Guatemala.

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The article notes in passing that the migrant killed an
elderly American in an automobile accident. A court ruled that
the death was not his fault, but the court and
the newspaper were silent on the fact that the elderly
the American was killed because the migrant was in the
United States under the tacit protection of the United States government,

(10:07):
the employers, and the identity theft. What are we going
to do? This man lost his identity? What are we
going to do? Remember what happened last week when everybody
was immaculated on the streets of Charlotte. We must protect,

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we must protect, we must protect. Why don't you people
who marched with the no Kings, why don't you people
donate your identity to these folks and leave Dan Clover
the heck alone. He did nothing wrong, and he pays
the price. Explain it to me.