Laws, Lies, and Lake Tahoe Fleas On The Brett Winterble Show

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Speaker 1 (00:23):
News Talk eleven ninety nine to three WBT Brett Winterbull
Show on a Thursday, A very special Thursday, a Thursday
in which none of us expected to wake up this morning,
and seeing Letitia James getting roundly repudiated by the Supreme
Court of the State of New York saying that, yeah,

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you overcharged Donald Trump, you went, you did it all wrong,
and then you got that weirdo, you know, the weirdo
I'm talking about, Angern, Angern, that weirdo judge that was
filming himself and doing Oh my gosh, what is wrong?
New York used to be the glittering jewel of the world,

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and it has fallen into such disrepute that rats are
evacuating to New Jersey. They don't want to be seen
in New York any longer. And one thing that comes
to mind to me, though, is get yourself ready, Laticia James,
get yourself ready, because turnabout is fair play. You attempted

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to get this man, You attempted to get this man
and take every nickel, dime and penny from him. Well
guess where you're gonna be living. Oh no, no, no,
not the Gray Bar Hotel. I don't want to see
you go to jail. I just want to see you
brought down to earth. I want you to be seen
as just another crooked politician masquerading as someone seeking justice.

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That's what I want to see. I want to see
you walking down the street and people pointing and laughing, going,
look at what happened to her, And I want I
want justice for Freddie Mack and Fannie May and all
of that sort of stuff because you decided you were

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going to play games allegedly with your homestead and with
your home and all that sort of stuff. This is phenomenal.
I just think this is going to be such an
interesting thing to see how many of these people have tried,
have attempted, have tried, have It's just remarkable. It is

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just remarkable. So if you didn't know about that, it's
important for you to know about that. That is Letitia James,
a fraud's fraud who overcharged Donald Trump for nothing, for
actual nothing. In fact, let's listen to a great piece
of analysis from from one of my my friends. I

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do count him as a friend, and he certainly has
a very interesting take on this. So what do you
say we go over and hear from Clay Travis cut
thirty three. Please let's hear that. We're gonna hear from
Clay Travis here in just a moment, we got a
we got a little bit of a of a of
a hitch going on here. We're working through this over

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the last twenty four hours. What Clay Travis was talking
about is the historic decision about the folks getting bounced
from what they were trying to play games with. And
you know the problem with this is you expect you're
gonna go into court and you're gonna be treated like
a human being. You expect that you're gonna be able

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to count on justice. But damns always cheat. Who said
that is that Clay Travis? Was that Clay Travis cut
thirty three? Please go.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
It's a huge win for President Trump. Here is also
a prediction for you, Aisha. I think eventually the felonies
that Alvin Bragg got in New York State Court are
also going to be tossed. President Trump is winning on
all fronts. But this is frankly, it was indefensible. Remember

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there was no losses here. The banks all got paid
back on these loans. It was a hair brained theory
to try to hold him accountable here. I give credits
to the Court of Appeals in New York for their ruling.
I think it's going to happen with the felony charges
eventually too. President Trump just keeps stacking wins.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
A quokeerd prosecutor. Is that what we're talking about, A
crooked judge? Is that what we're talking about? Overcharging all
this sort of stuff. They moved to try to grab
money out of the the Trump administration, not the Trump administration,
of the Trump Company. To lock them up, they had
to put in a four hundred million dollar bond. That

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means that they can't use that money. It's just another
crooked play. And I'm telling you something right now, I
do agree with what you just heard from from Clay Travis.
I think I think Alvin Bragg is finished. I think

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Alvin Bragg is finished. I think Letitia James has finished.
I think all of these people are going to go
by the wayside, not to be remembered in any way,
shape or form. Cut number thirty eight, Shannon Bream on
Trump and the New York Court. Cut thirty eight.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
So interesting to me is we've been waiting on this
four months. Remember this came out. It went on appeal,
and we kept thinking I would check every once in
a while, like did I miss something. We're still waiting
on this decision. So today, essentially there were all of
these fractured decisions and opinions, But what the court agreed
on bottom line is that massive judgment is out.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Of here for night.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
But they also kind of smoothed the way for this
to go to the next appeal in New York State.
It's interesting that the Supreme Court here is not what
you think of as the state's highest court. It's the
mid level. So there's still another level for this case
to go. But essentially, though there was disagreement about the
overall liability for President Trump, they agreed that this penalty
was excessive, cannot stand, and so a big win for

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him today.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Why are they taking clarify reviewers?

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Then would the president be appealing the two things that
wasn't ruled on today, which would be the Supreme Court
like the analysis that they conducted was indeed sound, and
then also the liable verdict in and of itself. So
is that what the president would appeal?

Speaker 3 (06:49):
That's my impression based on this.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
I mean, look at this, are they all crooked? Is
every one of them? Crooked? Is every Democrat in New
York City crooked? Is every Democrat in in cities around
the country? Crooked?

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (07:02):
What it is? Is that? Why it's incredible? Did you
did you notice that the murder rates are substantially down
in Washington, DC? And yet the radicals are marching around
demanding more human sacrifice? Which is what that is? What
is it with Chicago? What is it with Los Angeles?
What is it with with Houston? What is it with

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all of these places? Why are these places willing to
allow crooked? Crooked, crooked alleged officers of the court. Why
are they even still allowed to carry a law license.

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Here's what I hope happens. I hope on the back
end of all of this stuff, when it all shakes out.
I hope and I and I believe this is going
to happen. You're going to see the Kniphong effect. Oh
I remember remember Kniphong, the lion lawyer that he was.

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I think you're gonna see that. I think you're gonna
see it up and down the board. Because taken four
hundred million dollars as a hostage payment. You've got to pay,
you have to pay in every possible way. News Talk

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eleven ten, that a nine three WBT Brettwitterbull Show seven
oh four five seven eleven ten, A lot of stuff. Wow,
that was a quick drop there, my friend, I like that.
That was good. Right right to business. There's a guy
that you have probably heard of. You may know who
this guy is. His name is Eric Swalwell. And I

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was told that I should play this clip for you
because I don't want you guys to ever forget the horror,
horrible congress person that Eric Swalwell is. Cut number thirty seven.
This is Eric Swalwell on his big, big, big interview
on CNN, Cut thirty cent.

Speaker 6 (09:10):
I ask you about redistricting in California. It's moving full
seam ahead in Texas, and in response, things are moving
along in California. Republicans have filed a legal challenge in California,
but it could very well make it to voters to
sign off and if this moves ahead in November. At
the very same time, the governor has taken it upon
himself to transform his social media kind of as part

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of this into very specifically spending all of its time
mocking Donald Trump. Mocking Donald Trump by mimicking his.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Social media style.

Speaker 6 (09:42):
I mean, you can just see some of the posts
of the memes and the things that they've been that
have been put out. What is your I'm seeing a
lot of Democrats applauding this approach by Gavin Newsom. But
is this all about more about his presidential aspirations than
anything else? And if it is, are you okay with it?

Speaker 1 (09:59):
It's a teaching man.

Speaker 7 (10:00):
He's mirroring and reflecting what Donald Trump is doing.

Speaker 8 (10:03):
So to ask the country, is this who you want?

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, they chose you. They chose Donald Trump. They didn't
choose Gavin Newsom. And here's the thing. I would not
turn Gavin Newsom into a goof. I would not turn
him in any way, shape or form into just like
a weirdo from the West Coast. Okay, you don't want
to do that. And there's a reason why you don't
want to do that, because you have got to pin

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on Gavin Newsom every bit of the killing of the
three people when that guy decided to give the license
to a person who doesn't speak English and didn't really
know how to drive a truck. And so what needs
to happen. I saw earlier today about about two hours ago,

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I saw that Ron DeSantis is having him the guy
who crashed that truck and took the lives of three
innocent people, even though he was here in the country illegally, illegally,
and Gavin Newsom and the governor of Washington State said

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that that guy could get a driver's license for a CDL. Now,
I know we have a lot of people who drive
around here in Charlotte. We also know that we have
a lot of CDL people coming through here. And you
have seen good drivers, and I'm sure you have seen
some real wackados coming down the roads doing really dangerous things.

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Do not allow Gavin Newsom to define himself as some
sort of a knockoff of Donald Trump. What you need
to do is make him the most important person in
the news. Don't let him be a clown. You have
to make sure that he is going to get indicted.
And I think it could happen at the federal level
because he signed off on the license for the illegals

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who couldn't pass the tech, and that means that Gavin
Newsom needs to be brought up. It's way better standing
than anything Latitia James tried to do or Alvin Bragg
tried to do. Uh, this is important. You could indict
Gavin Newsom in the federal in the federal court because

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he's responsible for handing out those licenses, and that would
be fantastic. The let me just tell you something, the
looking into Gavin Newsom's reality could be unbelievably incredible. I'm
telling you right now, I would take all day, every day.

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I would take the worst of the worst governors in
this in the country. They will not come anywhere close
to how bad a human being Gavin Newsom is. In fact,
I think you could indict Gavin Newsom on two things. One,
I think you get indict him on this issue involving

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the Indian who came into the country, who did not
speak English, who failed the tests and all that sort
of stuff, and they still gave him the application and everything,
all the paperwork that they needed to drive around. Gavin
Newsom could be brought up for that. And you know
what else, Gavin Newsom could be brought up on the

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fraud that exists with the high speed rail project that
he was trying to have. And there's a third one.
Do you know what the third one is? The third
one is one that has become very well forgotten. Remember
when Gavin Newsom bought all those masks during COVID and

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he was bringing him in from China. Where do you
get that money? How did he get his money? How
does this guy still walk around thinking that he's a
legitimate potential contender. I'll tell you this right now. This
now needs to be a targeting of Gavin Newsom because
but four Gavin Newsom giving out those licenses, those people

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would still be alive. And you want to hear something
else that's that's even more unbelievable. I can't believe this,
but it's it's it's it happened over the last couple
of days. You have to hear this. And I'm not
going to tell you what this is. I'm just gonna
let you hear this. This is gonna be cut number.

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Where's this? Hold on? Hold on thirty five? Cut number
thirty five? Is it's this sound? Just listen to this,
go street. You're okay for sure? Yeah? And I see
the whole thing.

Speaker 9 (14:56):
It's crazy, Okay.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
He's not a slur ye. That is another illegal alien
driving a truck that flipped an eighteen wheeler in California
that happened like yesterday. So what are we doing, folks?

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What do you want to do? What do you want
to do to make the streets safer? What do you
want to do to make the streets of Washington, DC safer?
Los Angeles safer? Florida safer, Charlotte safer? Are we going
to enforce the rules or are we going to pretend

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that it's not important, that it's optional. What are you
prepared to do? And who are you prepared to lobby?
And who are you prepared to demand justice for the
three who lost their lives? And however much this individual

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was harmed in this latest truck crash with an illegal

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Dudes Talk eleven ten now in ninem three WBT. It
is the Brettwerble Show. Good to be with you. By
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zero eleven ten. So let's take just a peek in
some of the different stories that are also moving in
this real time. And I got to say, one of
the things that's very interesting is this take by the

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situation with I'm sorry, I just got distracted here for
a quick second with something I saw Letitia James's civil
fraud case. Right now, people are saying, throw out the
Egene Carroll penalty two because remember, she got she got
a lot of money in a settlement, but it hasn't

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basically been consummated at this stage in the game. So
Alexander Marlow says in my newly released New York Times
best selling book Breaking the Law, I made the case
that the nearly five hundred million dollar that was fined
imposed on Donald Trump by Judge Arthur and Geron in

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Letitia Tish James's civil fraud case was a cruel and
unusual punishment. Today we learned that a panel of five
judges in New York's Mid Level Appellate Division believed that
the fine imposed on Trump was excessive, so much so
that it violated the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution. As

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I noted in Breaking the Law, Trump was always going
to lose. Are you beginning to notice the pattern. Given
the Democrat ag the Democrat judge, and the absence of
a jury, the brunt of the penalty for the victimless
crime would be financial and gern that's the judge. Air

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quotes the judge and James came up with a number
so obscene it reads like a joke. Three hundred and
fifty four point eight million dollar plus interest adding up
to over four hundred and fifty million dollars. Yes, this

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was a juryless trial. There is uh, the the Attorney
General of the State of New York going in front
of this, this whack job judge, and it's totally rigged. Yes,
this was a juryless trial. And after interest accumulated, the

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penalty would have been over a half a billion dollars
in total. In fact, it has been accumulating at a
clip of over eighty seven thousand dollars per day. That
she's trying to steal from the Trump administration. From Trump
as of the March twenty twenty five Oval Office interview
that that I conducted with the President, they still have

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his money. She still has her hands on his money.
The one hundred and seventy five million dollar bond was
still up as of spring twenty twenty five. Tiss James
in the state of New York ought to pay Trump
interest on his one hundred and seventy five million dollars

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that they have tried to hold for fraudulent reasons. The
math on how they got to this number, of course,
is unintelligible. Not surprising in New York, they plucked it
out of their thin air. It was bigger than anyone
saw coming, more than four times the outrageous eighty million

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dollars that Trump was ordered to pay Egene Carrol. The
Egene Carrol penalty should also be thrown out, says Marlowe
on the same grounds. But as he notes in his book,
James wasn't done yet. She called for lifetime bands for

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Trump and the other Trump organization officials from participating in
New York real estate industry business or serving on corporate
boards as officers. She asked four Trump's eldest sons, Donald
Trump Junior and Eric to get five year bands. They

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had nothing to do with this. Ngeron the Weirdo Judge,
The really weirdo judge obliged. He did everything that she
wanted him to do. He barred Trump from serving in
top roles in New York, including some at his own companies,

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for three years. Among the penalties, James and Engern abandoned
the legal foundations of civil law and assessed a fine
that imitates a criminal penalty and is fundamentally cruel and unusual.
Nearly half a billion dollars in a zero damage's situation

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is an excessive amount that is seemingly chosen at random.
None of this should have been surprising. After all, James
had famously campaigned to get Donald Trump, and she said
she looked forward to suing him and that she would
be a pain in his ass after the verdict came down.

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That's our quote, by the way. After the verdict came down,
James began to taunt Trump by posting daily updates to
the ex social media platform on the gargantuan interest payment
he was required to make. All of this violates his
rights and his due process and equal protection under the law.

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This is a crooked, crooked decision, and I can't wait
to see with what's going to come next, because she's
gonna get hit with a ton of bricks. There are
there are, there are musings out there as as to
how she's handling her mortgage financing and all that sort

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of stuff. And I think at this stage of the game,
there's gonna have to be an investigation into James and
anger On, because if they colluded together to take this
and to do this, I think there's gonna be a
real problem.

Speaker 10 (23:27):
You know.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
It's interesting. Two weeks ago the Justice Department opened an
investigation into the into James for depriving Trump of his rights.
That's a civil action. That's a civil action. It represents

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a historic opportunity to restore equal justice under the law
in our country. So depriving him of his rights gets
him the ability to go after her personally. Hello, Ken Kniphon,
where's Kniphong? Where's Kniphong walking around? Where's Knipho Kniphong? Where

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are you? He's gonna take her to the class. He's
gonna take every penny from her that she will ever
ever have in her possession. And I'm telling you, this judge,
this judge, he's such a weirdo. I'm sorry, but he is.
He is such a weirdo. He'll probably turn state's evidence

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and get her jacked up. I mean this, this is unbelievable.
This is your country, this is your country. There are
no fiefdom. News Talk eleven ten out of nine three

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WBT Brett Waterbole Show, good to be with you. Did
you guys see what Shador Sanders said on Dylan Gabriel's
Entertainers and Competitors quote. So he's not tripping. I don't know,

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hard to know, Robert, Welcome to the program. What's on
your mind?

Speaker 11 (25:25):
Robert, Hey, Brett, you bring it every night, dog?

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Thank you, Thank you very much.

Speaker 11 (25:31):
Yes, sir, I I just posted to your to your
X page just now. In fact, I think it's it
may be sometimes I do some screening on there now
as usual. There's nothing objectionable to what I'm posting about
Tish James. But right now it is being screened as
we speak. It's just a picture of her, Brett. It's

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a picture of her sitting in that in that courtroom,
when she was sure that she had Donald Trump was
now President Trump again. She was smug, she was pompous,
she was just beside herself when boy, we finally got him.
And I'm not I'm not a big fan of law

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fair and political retribution, right, but but she deserves it.
And as you said, as you closed, I think she's
gonna get it.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
I do look to do this, and I don't think
I don't even think Trump's going to do anything. I
think what's gonna end up happening is she's going to
get sanctioned at the at the state level, and they're
gonna I will I will wager a tuna fish sandwich
or a subway sandwich or whatever. It is, not not
the subway sandwich that was thrown at the cops, but

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I would I would wager any of that sort of
stuff right there that the judge is going to turn
state's evidence and say, yeah, we were colluding because this
this judge is, this judge is not ready for prime time.
And I think she figured that they were gonna maybe
I don't know, put Trump away, and I don't think
it's gonna happen. In fact, I know it's not gonna happen.

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This is this is crazy stuff.

Speaker 11 (27:09):
I don't I don't doubt that there was collusion and
there are there. Again, I'm not a fan of lawfair.
I'm not a fan of neither. Neither neither absolutely, But
when you talk about people like James Comy and Lisa
Page and Peter Struck and Andrew McCabe. These people were out,

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I mean quite frankly, Brett. If they couldn't put him
in and by the way, I'm not implying that they
personally wanted to kill him, but but but if they
but if these if these enemies, these hateful enemies, couldn't
put him in a grave, then they wanted to. They
wanted him to be in jail and bankrupts, and also

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have his family bankrupts, and also have him live in
infamy forever. And it's turning out pretty much just the opposite,
which is of their of those Democrat results.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
That's interesting. All right, good stuff there, Robert. I appreciate
you calling uh in on the program here today. I mean,
when you when you look at you know, when you
when you make when you look at the situation here
and as to as to what it is, uh District
Attorney Bragg announced a thirty four count felony charge. Remember
that back in twenty twenty three, remember when that happened? Well,

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what what what happened there? I mean, it's like it's
all this sort of stuff that's you know, that's just
one of the things that that that were that that
we're we're looking at. I mean, it's it's remarkable. Brian,
welcome to the show.

Speaker 10 (28:41):
Yeah, I'm just man, I'm still have a guest. I
cannot believe that the call is called in this show
and a loud you know they do.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
They have opinions. It's it's opinions. It's yeah, it's opinions.

Speaker 10 (28:55):
This guy, this guy what. I don't understand how anybody
can anything that comes out of this dude's mouth.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
I don't know. I mean a lot of people believe
a lot of stuff. Like there are people right now
saying I can't believe what Brian is saying. Why is
Brian about to say something that's going to be nonsensical?
I mean, what, Look, people have opinions, and Brian, if
you want to come on the program, you've got to
bring it. You gotta bring it every night, you gotta

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bring it every afternoon, you gotta bring it every morning.
I get up three forty five in the morning and
I go to bed one twenty eight in the morning,
and I'm prepping all day, reading the stuff. And if
you want to bring me weak sauce, I don't need
weak sauce. I don't need weak sauce. I need hot sauce.
I need strength, I need I need a take. What

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you need to do, Brian, You've been on my show before.
You need to bring a take, not a I don't
know what's going on, but I just want to throw
an invective, and I don't like this guy. That's not entertaining.
The purpose of talk radio is entertainment. It really is.
I mean, it's the secret thing. And if you need me, look,

(30:10):
I'm more than happy to help you elevate your game.
I can elevate your game. I can give you tips,
I can give you props, I can give you things
that are gonna work. But like the idea of I
can't believe what the president says or whatever that we're
so beyond that. We're talking about a violation. We're talking

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about a specific violation in a court proceeding. What is this?
What is this? This is terrible. I would not want
to see it happen to Brian. I would not want
to see it happen to anybody. You're going to take
all this money from people, impound it, not let them

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use their money, not let them do that. You know
how many crooked judges and how many crooked prosecutors there
have been around the country over the course of human history.
A fair number, a fair number. But but if you're
gonna come in and and you're gonna deploy like some
just invective, that doesn't really apply because we're talking about

(31:14):
a specific proceeding here. I don't know what to tell you.
I know, bad orange man, right, I get it, But
but I mean, what is what is? I think again,
I'm more than happy I can coach you people up.
I can coach the folks up who call the show
who feel like I don't know if I have a
really good take. You know what I'm gonna do next week?

(31:38):
Next week, I'm gonna help you people, the listeners of
this program, the people who I love hearing on my
on my station. I am going to We're gonna take
an half an hour or an hour next week, and
I'm gonna let you bring a take, and I'm gonna
improve your take, and you're going to feel so much better.

(32:04):
You can use an alias, it's okay, But once you
learn this one trick, you will be compelling instead of
just yelling news talk eleven ten out of nine three WBT,

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all right, how many districts are there in the state
of California. You guys know how many districts there are,
Like you know you live, you live in different states.
How many districts are there in the state of California
at the congressional level, fifty? How many Republicans now exist

(32:59):
with this this goofy governor, guess how many Republican seats
there are now? Four that if these guys want to come,
this is great because I'll tell you this right now.
They have done this so much over the years that

(33:21):
it doesn't even affect people anymore. And what I love
about the idiot caucus. You know who the idiot caucus is.
The idiot Caucus is Gavin Newsom, and then other people.
I'm gonna I'm not gonna besmirch other people, but I
am gonna besmirch Gavin Newsom. He thinks he can keep
going back to the well and getting like getting rid

(33:42):
of more. So go ahead, get rid of every get
rid of every Republican in the state of California. That's
totally fine, Go do it. Massachusetts has done that. Do
you guys know that Massachusetts has no Republicans in their delegation?
Zero zero, zero, nobody, nobody, No Republican is in so

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these these states. Pritzker's done it, Gavin's done it, Mara
Heey in Massachusetts has done it. Lord only knows what's
going to becoming next. But all this is doing is
proving the point that people are afraid to acknowledge. So

(34:31):
how bad is it? How terrible is it that Texas
decided to re to reapportion the seats? How is that
a terrible thing? Well, I listened earlier today to a
former senator from from the state of Missouri, and I'm

(34:55):
so happy that we've got two reliable conservative in the
state of Missouri now. And she was just saying, well,
if you guys do this kind of stuff, then you
know what's going to happen. The Republicans are just going
to get, you know, pushed out of the system. They've
already been pushed out of the system. They've laughed. People
are leaving these states because they understand that the system

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is rigged to a large degree. And so as a
consequence of this, you know, this this fight that's happening
in terms of the redistrict thing. So let it happen.
You know what I say about this, Here's what I
say about this. If it's wrong people will go and
vote for the other party. It's not like you're stopping
people from running for office. You still have fifty districts

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where only four of them are held by Republicans. But
the fact of the matter is, if it gets so
awful in the state of California, I can't imagine how
much more awfuler it would have to be. I made
that word up, you know. I can't imagine how bad
it's got to be before people actually go in there
and try to flip people. But this is how it goes.

(36:03):
There's also a lesson here, and it's a very important lesson.
Don't live in places that could possibly collapse. Like I
wouldn't live in California. I would not go and live
in California. I would not go and live in Arizona.
I would not go and live in Oregon. I would

(36:24):
not go and live in in Washington State. I would
not go and live in many parts of the industrial Midwest.
I wouldn't live in I wouldn't live in Illinois if
you paid me. I wouldn't live in Massachusetts. I wouldn't
live in New Jersey. I wouldn't live in Pennsylvania. I

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wouldn't live in Maryland. I wouldn't live in any of
these states because they're set in a particular way. Over
the course of time, you're going to see people leaving
these states because if they decide they want to do
a tax hike, there's no buffer against the tax hike
happening because they're all Democrats, and they're just gonna be like,

(37:08):
we'll just we'll just raise more tax We'll just we'll
just hit hit more numbers, We'll just do all that
sort of stuff. Fine, go ahead and do it. There
are no conservatives left in New York City. You've got
Mandami doing his thing that he's doing, and you know,
sometimes you got to sit back and you got to say, wait,
why should we save people who want socialism? Why should

(37:33):
we stop them. It's sad for the people that are
gonna be left behind, But at some point they're gonna
wake up one morning and say, you know what, I
gotta move. I gotta go move to America. We can
no longer live in these in these in this territory.
We have to go and live in America. We have
to move to America. We have to go to North Dakota,
South Dakota, we have to go to Montana. We have

(37:54):
to go to Idaho and Wyoming and parts of Colorado,
very very tiny parts of Colorado. You know, we just
have to decide and get out of here. Let's go
to Kansas, Let's go to these other states that don't
have that particular problem. There are two really if you
think about relocating, in my opinion, there's only really three

(38:18):
things that you should fundamentally think about. Number One, medical care,
like you want to live in a place that's got
medical care of some sort. Number Two, I'm not even
looking at the schools, Like the schools are either good
or they're bad, and your kids are there for twelve
years and then you get to try to rewire them.

(38:39):
So you go, you go medical care distance from others
because I think a lot of people just kind of
want to be left alone. I think in the wake
of COVID people just kind of want to be left alone.
There are people that go out there and they buy
property right they're thirty acres, fifty acres, whatever it is,

(39:00):
and a lot of the time they don't even want
to develop it. They just want to make sure nobody's
going to be coming in and giving them a hard time.
And if they do come in and get a hard time,
then they're gonna get the ability to respond to nonsense
and things like that. I think the American people, in
all sincerity, whoever runs for president in this next election
on the Republican side, I think the imperative is leave

(39:24):
me alone. I think the average person maybe maybe you're
maybe I'm wrong, but I want to know, you know,
in the audience, here are you part of like the
leave me alone Caucus? Like, I'm going to live my
life and I don't want you trespassing on my on
my property. I just want to be left alone. The
left alone thing is a very attractive thing. It is

(39:46):
a very attractive thing. And I'm not saying, like, leave
me alone. I'm gonna go, you know, do something crazy.
I'm just saying I want to be left alone. I
don't want to wake up with somebody sleeping in my
front yard. I don't know who they are, and when
I call the police, they say they can't do anything
about that. Like that, that's not happening. That is not happening.

(40:08):
So are you part of the leave me alone caucus?
I'm willing to start the caucus. I'm willing to start
the conference. The Caucus, whatever it's got to be. I
want to be left alone. Do you want to be
left alone? Not abandoned, but left alone? Dudes talk eleven ten,

(40:37):
Nut of nine three w at Brett water Bowshell give
it you with you? So what are we going to do?
What are we going to do? I'm very intrigued by
what we're starting to see happening around U Venezuela. I
talked about this a little bit yesterday. We have got
ships that are stationed around Venezuela and it's a big,

(41:00):
big story. This is a big deal. And I'm telling
you right now, I watched a really wonderful interview last
night with jd Vance. Laura Ingram was interviewing him. They
were talking about all the different aspects of things in
terms of foreign policy and stuff like that. Right now,

(41:21):
if you were gonna give me, if you were gonna
give me a chance to spot who I think is
gonna be up next for my money, I think it's
gonna be Marco Rubio. I think it's Marco Rubio and
JD Vance because Marco Rubio is responsible for a lot
of really interesting relationships around our hemisphere. It's a big,

(41:48):
big deal. Let me give you an example of this,
and this is gonna sound like, well, why does this
even matter? I don't even understand why this matters. So
these countries down in South America. For a long time
you had the influence of Fidel Castro and the Soviets

(42:08):
and the Chicoms and all that sort of stuff. What
if I told you that Blivia, Bolivia is a hugely
important country. Belivia has decided they're going to shift away,
not shift like Adam shift, They're going to shift away

(42:32):
from the left wing for the first time in twenty years.
Huh wait a minute. Fears of unrest surge as Bolivia
readies for its first democratic handover and over two decades.
Who made that possible? How did that happen? Why are

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these countries changing down in Latin America. Isn't it interesting
that the pope that is now in the in the
in the Vatican emerged in large measure from that part
of the world. The social legacy of Pope Leo the
fourteenth in Peru, this is now a place that that

(43:20):
is rating very highly because you have people that want
to be able to pursue their dreams. You know this,
this is this is something that's interesting yesterday when we
were talking about the situation with Venezuela. We've got warships

(43:44):
down off the coast of Venezuela to interdict the drug
trade that is coming out, that is trying to murder
American people. Okay, and so we are we are down there,
we're sitting off the coast. What does Maduro do last night?
He get a load of this. He dispatches four point

(44:07):
one million troops air quotes to defend Venezuela. Now, you know,
and I know that there's defending Venezuela and then there's
defending Venezuela, and I think these people are conscripted, and
I think the minute a shot is fired, they're going
to bail. They're going to bail on Meduro. And remember

(44:30):
Donald Trump put out a fifty million dollar bounty on
Meduro's head, and Meduro's response to that was, you know what,
mister President, I'm gonna put out a bounty not on
your head, but on the Epstein files because that's what
we want to do, that's what we want to try
to use. Okay. But now Bolivia, Bolivia shifts away from

(44:55):
the left wing for the first time in twenty years.
Do you guys, see what's crazy? Look at Mandami in
New York City? What is he? What is Mandami? Give
me the word for Mandami? What is he? A communist?
You could say communist, You could say, like, what is
it a some kind of a socialist blend that he has,

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But he's a communist. So our big cities in the
time of this explosion of economic power and tariffs and
all this stuff, our big cities are stupid enough to
go and try to do the Kami thing. While Bolivia
has shifted away from the Kami thing. They've been like, ah,
twenty years, we've been really poor. This stinks. I want stuff?

(45:40):
Can I go get some stuff? Can I get a
maradonas shirt? Can I go get whatever I wanted? I mean,
this is like really crazy, isn't it. Bolivia is set
to have its first non leftist president in two decades
following a first round of voting which placed sex interest

(46:00):
and right wing candidates in the lead. After Sunday's first
election round, centrists and candidates are are picking up the seats.
Where's the socialists? Ask me, hey, how many votes did
the socialists get? Hey, Brett, Yes, sir, how many votes

(46:22):
did the socialists get they got three point two percent
of the whole vote. I mean, I don't know. One
of the recorded incidents was an explosion near the polling
station in the central city of court Cha Bumba. Where'd
you go last week? Gotchabamba, a Moralees stronghold. So Communistsville

(46:50):
went that way. And so these people want to say,
we want money. We like money. Money's good. We can
buy stuff with money. That's pretty good. I think we'll
do that. That's what we need to do. David, Welcome
to the show. What's on your mind? David?

Speaker 8 (47:06):
Speaking of Okay, we got it, for lack of a
better word or phrase, Yes, sir Trump A Trump is
a lame dup president, not not your traditional true lame
duck president. But we've got to get ready for the
next election, right and whomever we're going to put up
as conservatives need to be at the forefront right now.

(47:31):
Because social media and the way things work, We've got
to have somebody out front to take up the flag
and run it the rest of the way. Otherwise we
end up with a a Kamala Harris or someone of that.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Well, I don't think that's going to happen. I will
give you. I will I will analyze this coming back
on the other side of the break. I appreciate you
being out there, David. It's a very fair question, and
I do have an answer for it.

Speaker 6 (48:22):
All right.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
So here's here's the thing. I mean, I love the breeze.
Here's the thing. The thing is with the caller that
we just had, we cannot do anything except succeed. And
I know that sounds like a really dumb thing to say,
but it's not. We need to be about the business

(48:45):
of success. Right now, what are we three, four, five,
six months, seven months, coming up on eight months of
President Trump being president. All right, so we're I'll cut
the baby in half. Seven months, seven months. Donald try
has been in office. He's done some stuff, pass some bills,
you know, done the things that need to be accomplished.

(49:07):
But there's a piece of wisdom that I think is
very important. And Isaac reminded me of this, and it's
you just have to go back to work. Go to work,
Go do the things that are necessary, provide for your family.
If you want to be left alone, do the thing
that you need to be left alone about, or whatever
it is. This is, this is why we shouldn't be

(49:31):
campaigning twenty four to seven. What are you seeing on
the other side of the aisle. You're seeing pretty much
campaigning twenty four to seven, three sixty five. They can't
even make policy because everybody wants to have a different
policy and try to campaign at the same time. People
are not dialed in on this, they will get dialed in.
They'll get dialed in. Over the next six months, you're

(49:53):
going to see two things happen. One, you're going to
see the press make a big deal about the twenty
twenty six mid terms. Do you know when the twenty
twenty six midterms are? Do you know anybody? Do you
know when the twenty twenty six midterms are? The twenty
twenty six midterms are November of twenty twenty six, So

(50:23):
November of twenty twenty six means it's about a year
and a half from now, I mean plus or minus, right,
But they're gonna be campaigning. But the minute the clock
strikes twenty twenty six, you're gonna see all the all
the stuff going on out there, and they're gonna be saying, oh,

(50:43):
it's the midterms, we're doing the midterms, and they're gonna
try to stretch the midterms for the entirety of that year.
What you need to do when that happens is continue working,
continue working, pick out your person, figure out who your
dance partner is gonna be when it comes to, you know,
getting up there and getting things done. But even then,

(51:03):
after that, the House will go one way, the Senate
will go one way. Then it'll be now it's time
to talk about the next president. Who's gonna be running?
And so right after the twenty twenty six campaign, right,
you will then go into twenty twenty seven mode and

(51:26):
it will be who's going to be the next president?
Let us find out. Is it going to be Amy Klobachar,
Is it going to be Pocahuntas, Is it going to
be Gavin Nervous? Is it going to be you know,
who's it going to be? I don't know. But what

(51:48):
you should still be doing is working really hard and
putting away your money and doing all this sort of
stuff because there's a good likelihood that potentially maybe might
happen that a Democrat comes back into office and they
decide that they're gonna just go boom with the with
the cutting of tax with the increase of taxes. So
like all of this stuff that the press is trying
to do right now here, I'll give you. Let me

(52:09):
give you a great example of this.

Speaker 8 (52:11):
All right.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
So there's a guy named Scott Jennings, you know, Scott Jennings,
and he was talking to a Democrat, a Democrat strategist.
And this is a pretty good, i think, summation of
what's happening. But this is a great example of how
how you can't really even have a conversation at this

(52:33):
stage of the game. This is cut number thirty four.
And I sort of just slugged this as Scott Jennings
on bummed out Democrats because they're kind of they are
kind of bummed out.

Speaker 12 (52:44):
Cut thirty four go, I think the Democrats are hemorrhaging
voters because they've chosen all the wrong constituencies. They seem
to care more about illegal aliens and American citizens, violent criminals,
and law abiding citizens in the Palestinian flag more than them.

Speaker 13 (52:57):
That's not true.

Speaker 12 (52:58):
You take when you take when you take those positions
on things like that, people tend to run to the
other party.

Speaker 6 (53:03):
And is there one mainstream Democrat that said the prince
over and you.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Know that's not necessarily Span Hollen.

Speaker 8 (53:09):
There's one.

Speaker 14 (53:14):
He met with Kilmaramando Brego Garcia, who was brought back
to the United States.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
The administration conceded that he was sent there wrongfully. So
Chris van Holland, I mean down this road all right.

Speaker 9 (53:23):
The Democrats. As someone who does a lot of messaging
in Democratic Party, we do have a messaging issue. But
the real thing here is that we have to go
to these voters and talk to them about the pain
that they are feeling before we bring the policy solution.
Because we do have the policy solution, we just have
to figure out a better way of listening to our voters.
And I think we are in this crisis right now

(53:45):
where we are forced to do that, and I do
believe that Democrats can come back and gain these voters back.

Speaker 10 (53:50):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
That's kind of an interesting take. They have answers, but
where are they? I see people, I mean I see people.
I see people out marching around and talking and doing stuff.
But like, what are so then? What how? Let's all
right hypothetical here, We're gonna pull all of the support

(54:13):
that exists in Washington, DC over the course of the
last ten twelve days, and everybody's gonna go back to
their homes and we're gonna wait and sit. How long
is it gonna take before it descends into chaos again?
I would give it twelve hours. I would give it
twelve hours, six hours maybe. Do you think the people

(54:34):
who are in Washington, d C. Who have seen their
neighborhoods cleaned up a little bit, do you think that
they they want policy answers from this person on CNN
or do they want to see a cop on the beat,
people walking around, people being a part of things, all
this sort of stuff. And by the way, by the way,

(54:57):
while we're at it, it's important to understand that this
Van Holland is not running for senate again. He is
a lamest of the lame ducks. So I mean you
can be like, oh, yeah, Chris van Holland is a
hugely important guy and he's going back home to sit

(55:17):
around and drink Margarita's with uh, with with with the uh,
with the with the guy who was famous for being famous.
I mean, I this is incredible. So where are your answers?
Their answers are We're going to march, We're going to burn,
We're gonna yell, we're gonna scream, we're gonna do all

(55:39):
those kinds of things. Okay, that's great, you could do
all of that. I will give that to you all
the way to next October. So what's the answer. They're
not gonna tell you what the answer is. They're not
gonna tell you. They're gonna say, uh, well, you got
me stuck there a little bit here, Tommy Larry and

(56:00):
cut number thirty two. She understands. What's up Cut thirty
two is we see.

Speaker 14 (56:06):
That people aren't watching CNN or MSNBC quite like they
used to.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
They're tired of being lied to, of course.

Speaker 14 (56:11):
But I'll tell you this, it's great to have opinions.
It's also great to question your government, no matter who's
in charge of it. We were told for so many years,
especially during COVID, that you couldn't question anything or else
you'd be deemed a conspiracy theorist. That has to go away.
We need to be able to question and learn about everything.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Yeah, but I've got answers. I've got the answers. They
just don't understand them. There's such great answers. Mandami is
a great answer. He's a great answer for what for
a dual citizen? Rich dude who has a famous mom
as a film director to bail him out so when
it gets really bad he can flee from New York

(56:50):
and go hide out in Uganda. Is that what we're doing?
Is that the answer? Tell me how many people in
this audience are carrying dual citizenships so that you can
bail out and it gets hot. That's no way to
run a country. That's no way to run a city.
Either you're full in married to this country or you're not.

(57:12):
This is a binary choice, and I like the binary choice.
I am wedded to this country. I'm not putting myself
anyplace else. You know why, because this is the greatest
place that has ever ever been, next to Heaven. You know,

(57:32):
I'm starting to think that Vladimir Putin doesn't want peace.
Did you see what he did? Dan Hoffman was talking
about this over on the Fox News channel, and one
of the largest overnight strikes since the war began, Russia
unleached some six hundred and fourteen drones, ballistic and cruise

(58:00):
missiles across Ukraine, killing one injuring dozens, and destroying an
American factory. It is an American owned electronics company less
than an hour from two NATO borders officials confirmed Thursday morning,

(58:27):
Ukrainian President Voladimir Zolensky. Because there's a lot of wise said,
the strike on the private US company, which involved several
cruise missiles, was very telling about President Donald Trump's attempts
to force Moscow to end its invasion. Last night, the

(58:48):
Russian Army set one of its insane anti records. Zelensky said,
they targeted civilian infrastructure, facilities, residential buildings, and our people.
Several cruise missiles were lobbed against an American owned enterprise
in Zachar Petilla, he noted, describing the company as a

(59:11):
regular civilian business supported by American investment, producing everyday items
like coffee machines, and yet it was also a target
for the Russians. It's very telling, said Zelensky. All Right,
here's the thing. I don't know what was in that factory.
Maybe they were making bombs, maybe they were making missiles,

(59:34):
maybe they were making that. But the idea of shooting
at an American facility, not picking the phone up and
calling Donald Trump or somebody else saying, hey, you better
tell your guys to get out of that building because
we're gonna level it. And we don't want to see
any casualties that would be something that would be adult.

(59:57):
This is something different. And I just have a feeling,
and I have a suspicion as to who's responsible. I
just have I'm able to discern kind of weird things sometimes,
and I'm gonna tell you what I think is happening.
I think you've got filthy, awful people in the American

(01:00:22):
government who are dreaming of an exploitation of monumental proportions
to get this war underway, fully pitched, going into NATO,
all this kind of stuff. I do not like Vladimir Putin.

(01:00:42):
I have said it repeatedly. I cannot stand communists, I
cannot stand Soviets, I cannot stand any of these people.
They're just as bad as Hitler was once upon a time.
This is awful. I am in no way, shape or
form Molly kod laying Vladimir Putin. But I do not

(01:01:06):
I do not for a minute believe that you don't
have deep state whack jobs like John Brennan at all
not being involved with like trying to set it off
so that it blows up in Trump's face. And the
problem is they think, like, oh, Trump's just gonna deploy

(01:01:26):
a whole bunch of weapons. Donald Trump's not gonna do that.
Donald Trump's gonna go away from the battlefield and he's
gonna say, guess what. Now, none of you are getting
our weapons, and we're gonna hit you all with tariffs
until you guys figure out how to go. We think
about this. You ever been pulled over by a police officer?
You ever been pulled over by by a police officer
or a state trooper or any of that. That state trooper,

(01:01:51):
that police officer, by and large, is not going to
come to your door, open the door, yank you out,
and shoot you on the side of the road. What
are they going to do. You're gonna You're gonna escalate,
and then they're gonna try to de escalate, and at
some point then it's like, forget it. You know what,
You're going to jail. I don't care. Did you see

(01:02:11):
the two women that got locked up in Newport, Rhode
Island And she's all like, don't you know who I am?
I'm the ag Da Da Da Da and the girl
the other girl is like, you can't put me in there.
I'm not gonna go in there, babe, babe, No, you
can't put me in the back seat of the car. No,
I'm not going to jail. You know you're going to jail.
You're going to the jail. The minute they the minute

(01:02:33):
they put the the minute they put the bracelets on
you, you're going to jail. They're gonna just take you to
jail and you're gonna sober up, and then the next
day you can be well, what did I ever do?
This is the problem. Vladimir Putin thinks he's gonna do
what he's gonna do, and the deep State wants to

(01:02:55):
do the things that they want to do. Barack Obama, Uh,
you know the Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton, all of these people, right,
remember how they tried to remake the Middle East and it
just got worse and worse and worse. So what are
we gonna do? I think Donald Trump's gonna be like,
you know what, park's on all your houses, You guys,

(01:03:15):
go fight it out. Whatever. We're not sending any more
weaponry in Europe, good luck. We don't really necessarily need
you guys anymore. And when you get your tails between
your legs, you'll maybe decide that you want to be
civilized people. But if you don't want to be civilized people.
So what too bad? House, sad, Call all your dads.

(01:03:35):
This is not our war, Like it's Joe Biden's war,
It's Kamala's war. It's all there. They're all responsible for this.
We the American people, are not responsible for what happened
over because you had a bad deal done by Hunter
or Joe or any of those people. That's not our

(01:03:57):
that's not our cause. Now, if you agree with me,
that's great. If you disagree with me, go ahead and
try to make the case. You can go ahead and
try to make the case. But I want to know
how many seventeen year olds do you want to see
getting conscripted from the United States to go fight and
internecine war between two hunks of the Soviet Union, Like

(01:04:22):
you want your kid doing it, I don't want your
kid doing it. And I don't care if you're a Democrat,
an atheist, a communist. I don't want to see your
kid go get shot over something that's going over there
that's not necessarily our deal. News Talk eleven ted not

(01:04:56):
an I three WBT Brett water bowlshelf. Lots of lots
of stuff going on out here, like It's really kind
of amazing to see the flow of things. And yet,
isn't it interesting if you went back in time and
you could you could go back, like let's say George Bush, right,

(01:05:18):
George Bush. You could go back and see Barack Obama.
You could go back and see Joe Biden. You could
go back and see Donald Trump first term, all that
sort of stuff. Isn't it interesting to see with this
aggression that's now happening against an American company in Ukraine,

(01:05:39):
how much more panicked we would be if say Kamala
Harris was the was the president of the United States. Now,
I mean think about how like how chaotic this is? Right?
That would be so okay. Crisis in the Ukraine, crisis here,
crisis there. But you're not seeing Donald Trump going out
there and putting out checks that he can't cash. Remember

(01:06:04):
what Joe Biden said. President Biden said, if you make
a small incursion, you know, I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna hammer you. Why would you ever say that to
an an enemy? Doesn't make any sense. We have a

(01:06:24):
functioning economy, we have streets getting cleaned up. We have
certain debates and dismiss and discussions that are happening with
with you know, jerry mandering and all that sort of stuff,
and still the country is on fire economically, people are
spending money, people have their kids in school. New York

(01:06:48):
City is is trying to do its best to make
it the bad old days. But in Washington, d C.
We're cleaning this up like we can chew gum and
walk at the same time. It's kind of an important
thing to think about. And even more importantly, the American
people are not freaking out. I don't see American people

(01:07:08):
freaking I see people the roads have I mean, have
the roads ever been more crowded than they are right now? Yes,
when you have a good economy, when you don't have
a great economy, when you don't have cheap gasoline, when
you don't have the things that people are talking about,
this is a big deal. This feels like normalcy. Yankee Joe,

(01:07:31):
welcome to the show. What's on your mind?

Speaker 7 (01:07:34):
All?

Speaker 9 (01:07:35):
Say?

Speaker 13 (01:07:35):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Yes? I hear you?

Speaker 13 (01:07:37):
Okay, So first of all, before I get carried away,
I just want to bring back the old bit one
of the archives and say, please, America truly invade California,
because it's just we can go. I don't want to go.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
No, no, we're not going to We're not invading California.
California wants to do what it's doing, so we're we're
not going to invade them. That's all I can tell you.

Speaker 13 (01:07:59):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
I'm sorry. We tried and tried. Nobody wants it, Nobody
wants California.

Speaker 13 (01:08:03):
Go ahead, Brett, but you know, with this factory get involved.
We have a Gulf of Conkin incident. Just people quickly
forgetting a bothering the incident that happened. And I just
don't buy it. And I'm glad that President Trump's on
the head. And the thing is, well, I want to
actually go that on you though, And I think it's
pretty responsible because I've heard I've heard a lot of

(01:08:23):
guys you know, talk over you know whatever, by sticking
their gut out, say we ought to you know, not
do this and not do that. But you you know,
you don't have you know, thank god your souns down there.
But the point is it's coming out, you know, a
respectful way. It's just that so many you hear, so
many people like John Brannan's that want to go to
go to war with his mustache, yes or anything. This
guy just and these people just love and just we

(01:08:44):
or doing So what is the option, right, go kill
some more people? And there's just so many in this
country right here, you're supposed to call up in California,
and these are just so responsible. They just don't care
about body bags. I mean, it could care less about
what happened in the Ghazi or or in Afghanistan. Right
but we have net even done anything about it. And
we're gonna say, you know what, We're gonna stick our

(01:09:06):
chested out and and send more bodies out there for what.

Speaker 8 (01:09:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
I don't want I don't want to. I don't want
to see that happen to anybody.

Speaker 13 (01:09:14):
Focus that. I just I really appreciate you just not
be on guys. That's stick a chests out and let's
send some bodies off there to come back in a
body bag.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
No, I don't want that, and I.

Speaker 13 (01:09:25):
Appreciate it because there's a lot of people out there
or we don't trust that. Yeah, there are criminals in Europe,
a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Look, now, you're right about that kid from.

Speaker 13 (01:09:34):
North Carolina pat getting killed.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Yeah, let me ask you a question. I want to
ask you a question. I want to ask you a
question because you're you're on the ground there, uh, in California,
and the question for you on this day is it
is is this guy who is getting repatriated back to Florida?
Is that a big story? Is that leading the news?

Speaker 7 (01:09:58):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
With this guy who crashed who crashed into the three
people Brett?

Speaker 13 (01:10:03):
They care more about what what what? What burrito they're
getting and this this thing. We really could care. I
mean that saying need of a person, but sure as
a state as whole could care to let And the
thing is though that even the same people that are
willing to put your sons and daughters out there to
go die, we could care too. Let we don't care
about three three four ridians patents dying?

Speaker 11 (01:10:23):
You care less?

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
That's awful, you think it's really I mean, I'll.

Speaker 13 (01:10:26):
Look at the you know, I care more about the
baseball score, which I love baseball, by the way, But
if I can't, I mean not saying me. Let's say
it's a state as a whole. I care more about
what's gonna happen in football season and those three people dying.
We can care more about football than we hear about that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
That's terrible. Yeah, yeah, especially because Newsom, I mean, Newsom's
responsible for this. Thanks for the call, Yankee Joe. I
appreciate that. It's look, I I'm happy that he called
in because he's he's making a very important point about
the idea of Okay, so who who are we going
to go send to go fight Vladimir Pus or go

(01:11:00):
fight whoever? It's not again, I know it's not popular.
It's not our war. We have sent massive amounts of weaponry,
We have sent all this stuff. The Russians have sent
their stuff, the Chicoms have sent their stuff, the North
Koreans have sent their stuff. I just we need to
be out of the war business at this stage of

(01:11:23):
the game. And the reality is you have people who
are very excited about let's let's have a war. Let's yeah,
let's let's have In fact, that's a there's a clip.
Don't play it because I don't think it's clean, but
there's a clip from the Repoman soundtrack that's called let's

(01:11:44):
have a war, and in fact, the lyric is let's
have a war and blame it on the middle class. Hey,
who do you think is fighting? I mean, who do
you who do you think you think John Carey's kids
out there fighting. You think those folks are out they're fighting.
You know, we have to take we have to take

(01:12:04):
care of America first and make America first. I think
News Talk eleven ten out of nine three WBT Brant

(01:12:26):
Winterbow Show seven four five seven eleven ten. Okay, So
I came across a story that's maybe the worst story
I've had. Isaac is here, and Lonnie is here. Lonnie
on a one to ten? What is the rank of
this story? Like, how bad is this story?

Speaker 8 (01:12:46):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Definitely a ten. It's a ten. This is a ten.
This is a t And I'm doing this as a
public service to the American people because something, something just
came to my, to my I wish I didn't have
the knowledge. It's bad. This don't read the science. Okay,

(01:13:09):
here we go. You know, I don't play. I mean,
I don't play with these kinds of stories. This is terrible. California.
This is coming from California. A California resident has tested

(01:13:29):
positive for plague. Health officials believe the person was bitten
by an infected flea while camping in the South Lake
Tahoe area. Isaac is abandoning the show he can't, he

(01:13:50):
can't take he's he may be cursing out there. I
don't know. The case is raising eyebrows and making many
people wonder. Yeah, I would say plague. I'm really I'm wondering.
I'm wondering here. Quote. I think it's crazy. I didn't
even know the plague was still something that was going on,

(01:14:13):
said one Lake Tahoe visitor. How is the person doing?
Health officials say that the residents back at home, recovering
and expected to be okay. Doctor Peter Chin Hong is
an infectious disease expert at uc S of course San Francisco.

(01:14:40):
See he works at University of California, San Francisco. It's
transmitted by bacteria through flea bites, so fleas that live
on rodents, including squirrels and chipmunks, said Chin Hong. Chin
Hong said, is that you can get it through flea

(01:15:04):
bites that live on rodents. What are we doing, gus?
What are we doing? I mean this is like, what
is this the fifteenth the thirteenth century where people had
to put those weird things on their faces to go
and doctors say, don't worry, the plague is rare. So's

(01:15:26):
my steak. What are you doing? Bubonic plague is still
it's plague. Yes, it's not just plague, it's bubonic plague. Yes.
Doctors say the plague is rare. Bubonic plague is still around,

(01:15:48):
but it's not common, not yet, Not yet. Is this
how we're gonna Is this how they're gonna get us
this time? Is this how we're gonna get shut down? Hey?
Plague only about seven cases a year happened in the
United States, mostly in the West. You know what, I

(01:16:11):
want to live around a lot of people. I don't
want to live out on my own anymore because I
think I'm going to get like the bubonic plague when
I'm out there walking around petting a beautiful little prairie
dog or whatever it is that they're doing out there. Gopher,
stay away from the rodents. Bubonic plague is still around.

(01:16:32):
It's not very common, only about seven cases per year
in the United States, mainly in the West, so California, Arizona, Colorado,
New Mexico, said Chin Hong Chinhong is the doctor. It's
not as common as it was in the Middle Ages.
It's worse. It's not as common as it was in

(01:16:54):
the Middle age as when twenty five million people died.
But with him proved sanitation and not a lot of
rats as rats running around and less chance for the
bacteria to thrive and flourish. It's kind of all but
disappeared except for a few pockets around the world. Now,

(01:17:17):
why did we not wipe out the pockets around the world? If, like,
you know that there are pockets of plague around the world,
why are you not going down there and taking whatever
you gotta do, hot water, scrub, whatever you got to.
I mean, why are we not taking the most biggest
chemicals and just deploying them to get rid of the plague?

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Why do we have to keep some plague around? Keep
some plague around? Right? So it's like, hey, what do
you got in that closet? That's play. I keep plague
up there in case we needed for some reason. Okay,
here we go, Here we go. I'm gonna be honest
with you, all right, the entire audience. Okay, Brett Winterble

(01:18:05):
doesn't camp. No, the number of times I have camped
over the course of my lifetime fewer than four. I'm sometimes,
you know, I would be like in an RV or
something like that, I'm talking about camp camp like on

(01:18:26):
the ground with a tarb yep. Okay, with like a
some kind of an ocelot coming over to mess around
with me when I'm trying to sleep. Okay. Doctor says
it's important to be aware that getting the plague is possible.
Quote many of us love to go camping. Not me, Nope,

(01:18:48):
we have dogs. We love to go out and hike.
I think we should know that rodents in the area
rarely but still do carry or are in fed with
infected with plague and flees from those rodents can come
and bite us and transmit this disease. Not winnable because

(01:19:10):
I'm not laying out there. I'm not getting ticks and
flees and plague, and I'm not getting I'm not getting
any of that stuff. No way, no way, sit your
button down, no way. I think that's what we have
to be aware about. You sure, stay in a hotel,

(01:19:30):
get a hotel or a or a the trunk of
your car or whatever it's gotta be. And we should
not forget. But we should not panic. No, I'm going
to panic when you're throwing me plague, bubonic plague that
killed twenty five million. Now think about twenty five million
that died, Okay, relative to the number of people on

(01:19:52):
the Earth at that time, Like that's that's probably like
two hundred and fifty billion people dead now or whatever
it is. Yeah. See, I don't like this. Why are
we not wiping out the rodents? Why are we not
getting rid of the fleas? I don't understand. People get
ticks and stuff like that. Why can't we wipe out
all the ticks? I don't want any ticks are not

(01:20:14):
useful of any in any way, shape or form, And
don't be a wise guy and call me. You know,
they're very important for the humanity of the earth. No, no,
we're not doing that. We're not doing that, doctor Melanie Ott,
director of the Gladstone Institute and professor at UCSF. We
have wonderful medicines applied antibiotics that work against bacteria, and

(01:20:37):
they work against the plague. They work very well if
they are applied early. I don't know what that means.
I don't want to know what that means about being early.
I don't know. Here's the thing, Isaac, just think about
this for a second. You can get fever, headache, muscle
aches kind of like the flu but the big difference

(01:20:58):
is with this kind of plague, it's you gotta check,
you gotta feel up your your swollen lymph nodes. More
than ninety percent survive. You can help prevent it by
wearing insect repel it. I'm just not going out anymore.
I think I'm just done with this. This nature thing

(01:21:19):
is really overrated. I just want to I think I'm
gonna build one of those Egyptian pyramids and just live
in that. News talk eleven ten out of nine to

(01:21:40):
three WBT. It's the Brett Waerble Show. It's great to
be with you, and it's a real pleasure to have
our next guest joining us. He's a North Carolinian, Jeremy
Carl Senior fellow at the Claremont Institute, former research fellow
at Hoover's Institution, and US Department Assistant Secretary of the Interior,

(01:22:01):
and a long time senior aid from George P. Schultz.
And it's great to have you on the program. Thanks
so much for spending time with us.

Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
Thanks so much for having me on.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
So let's talk a little bit about this piece that
I saw posted up the Nation of THESEUS. Can you
can you break down this idea of how it is
that we have got to prioritize the idea of assimilation
or how we will not become the country that it
is today, and what's going to happen next? Can you

(01:22:33):
can you break this down for the audience?

Speaker 10 (01:22:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:22:36):
Sure, I mean I think it's it's basically just a
question of how are we going to make sure that
we have a unified country. And to do that, we
have to have a set of values, a set of
principles that we are transmitting without apology to people. And
then combined with that, because we're not just a nation
of creeds, we're an actual people, we have to have

(01:22:58):
immigration be limited and regular so that you're not just
replacing one population completely with another. You've got to have
time to bring people in in an orderly way and
make them part of your community in an orderly way.
We had that totally broken under the last administration and
frankly for decades prior. And Trump is finally, I think

(01:23:19):
the one who is really addressing that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
One only has to go back to Simpson, Mazoli, Bill
Ronald Reagan with good with good cheer and good intentions
never really got the results that we're supposed to be
coming in that in that period of time. Is this
are we on the precipice where this will be the
last time that we'll ever see people being repatriated back

(01:23:45):
to their countries, Like this is a one and done
and we've got to now have this set up on
the other side so that we don't have to go
through this existence again.

Speaker 4 (01:23:59):
Well either, I certainly hope that this is not the
last time that we're doing significant repatriations. I mean, you
saw you're beginning to see some pretty reliable data that
suggests that for the first time in decades, we're beginning
to have a net reduction in net immigrants in the country.
And that's particularly concentrated among illegal immigrants, which is obviously

(01:24:19):
where we'd like it to be concentrated. But the reality
is even before that, we have a record percentage of
Americans who were born abroad, even higher than the LS
Island days. And this doesn't need to be a thing
where you're being hostile to immigrants as immigrants. It's just
a question of what numbers can we really bring into

(01:24:40):
our community all at once and make them part of
that community, teach them the values of that community. And
I think that's really what's been lost over the last
several decades.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
How would we how would we do this? Would we
be teaching this in this in the form of civics
in school with young with young people. What does this
assimilation project look like like in that effort.

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
Well, I think patriotic civics education is a lot of it,
but there's also just sort of informal things that go
beyond that. And I wrote about my own childhood growing
up in North Carolina and dealing with people who immigrated
from sort of non traditional immigration countries, which would have
at that time been places in Asia particularly, We didn't

(01:25:24):
have a lot of Asian American immigrants in North Carolina
in the early nineteen eighties, and how as sort of
small minorities in those areas, they really embraced the local
culture and sort of became part of the local community
in a way that when you have large ethnic enclaves
it's much harder to do. And in fact, our Assistant

(01:25:46):
Attorney General for Civil Rights in the current administration, Hart
Meat Dylan, who's absolutely terrific, grew up in just that
sort of community. I think in Smithfield, North Carolina, as
probably the only Indian American family there. But I think
when you really have people who are brought in in
reasonable numbers, they have a chance to become much more

(01:26:07):
part of the community than when you import so many
that people to sort of stay in their own ethnic enclaves.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
You know, you've obviously done a lot of thinking about this.
Is there a reservoir of goodwill that can meet in
the middle. I know it's very difficult. Obviously, people are
not happy with the direction that the country is going.
You have people that shouldn't be here in the United States,
and then on the other side, you have people who

(01:26:34):
are not willing to see people repatriated. How do we
bridge that divide?

Speaker 4 (01:26:41):
Yeah, well, that's certainly what I was trying to do
with this article and what I've tried to do in
other places. I think it's hard right now to do
it with the current leadership of the Democrat Party because
they're so you know, they're so four square against any
sort of reasonable immigration policy at all, or any deportations
or anything like that. But I do think that it's

(01:27:03):
important to there's a group number of USA that's kind
of been very involved in the immigration debate that's always
kind of said that, you know, a limited number of
immigrants that are warm welcome for those who we do
let in to be here legally. And I think that
that's kind of the right combination that you get. I
mean you want to have is that if we're going
to have immigrants here, we want them to be part
of our community. We want them to become part of

(01:27:26):
the American people. That's why we're letting them in ultimately
over time, and I think we have to send that message.
And at the same time, just given the completely irresponsible
way that we have managed that process for decades in
the US, that has to be conjoined with a really
strict deportation policy for people who are not here legally

(01:27:46):
and a dramatic reduction in the numbers even of legal
immigrants to this country so we can get some sort
of balance.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
It's the nation of thesis THESEUS. Jeremy carl is the author.
I'm going to post this up. I want people to
see this. This is a very important argument that you're
laying out. And I really enjoyed our conversation. I'd love
to have you back on the program again, and thank
you so much for being a part of this.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
Appreciate it. Thanks so much for talking with me.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Oh, it's our pleasure absolutely. News Talk eleven ten a

(01:28:33):
nine to three WBT. My name is Brett waterbol I
wonder when Brett Jensen's going to get in here. Just
very curious as to when he's going to arrive. Oh,
Breaking Brett Jensen is right across from me here. He's
got some ideas, he's got some thoughts, he's got things.

(01:28:54):
I got a question for you, Breaking, Brett Jensen, And
the question is very easy. It's a very easy question
for you. Okay, when you get into a deep investigation,
when you're trying to like break it down, Okay, when
you're you're saying, okay, like what is going on here
with this? How do you know who to trust when

(01:29:19):
they're talking to you? Like, how are you not maybe
getting sent round and round the mulberry bush or something
like that? I mean, how does what is? How do
you how do you how do you avoid that?

Speaker 7 (01:29:30):
I generally start, and that's a great question, and I
generally start with people that I have relied on in
the past. And what I've tried to do is like,
for instance, when I was breaking all the news and
CMS and I was really covering all the CMS stuff, right,
the previous administration and the current administration. When I was

(01:29:52):
breaking all the news, everyone especially the CMS, people thought
I all my sources were coming from the school board.
None of my info was coming from the school No kidding,
it was all coming I had people. I had sources
in every single department in Central Office that would give
me information, and they would give me information. The first
time to give me information, I would just let it sit.

(01:30:14):
Usually I let it sit, don't do anything, and then
if it comes true, it's like, Okay, they're giving me
some good info. So now if something comes up and
I'm like, and I've been told us of information from
an outside source or outside entity, now I have people
that I can go to that I've trusted. Whether it's
in Union County, Compari's County, Gaston County, Malholmore County, doesn't matter.

(01:30:37):
I've got people that I talked to on a regular basis,
and if something comes up, then I will reach out
to them. But if there's an instance where it involves
a situation where I don't have any sources or information,
if I have to just to go the regular route,
I try to find Okay, how can I the the

(01:31:00):
person that I'm doing the investigation on should say it's
a person, right, They're the last person I speak to.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
Interesting, So you're building up all this I'm.

Speaker 7 (01:31:08):
Trying to get all this stuff to make sure all
these people aren't connected, and it can be like walking
a tightrope, and because I don't want to go straight
to the person and then have people start circling the wagons,
so to speak.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
Okay, because so this is this is why I'm asking
this question for you, because CMS, like, let's we'll do
the CMS thing. Okay, So you do your investigations, you
do that sort of stuff. Did your work that you
did looking at other institutions, meaning like college programs things

(01:31:44):
like that. Did that set you up in the in
that in that flight pattern where it's basically the same
but with different stakes.

Speaker 7 (01:31:54):
Yes, because let's say college athletics. Yeah, yeah, college, which
I covered for a long time, the high levels, you know,
sec ACC stuff like that. So you you learn how
to go about doing things and then you learn that Okay,
the superintendent you could either equate that to being the

(01:32:15):
head coach. Sure, and then all the people underneath them,
and then the teachers would be like the players, right,
and then you've got all assistant coaches. So that's exactly
how I would treat it. You may get some information
from the players, yep, and then you might go to
a couple of assistant coaches that you can trust before
you finally confront the head coach or the same thing
with the superintendent. So it being in sports trying to

(01:32:39):
figure out because I did a lot of investigative reporting
in sports as well, and so that's I mean, as
a matter of fact, that's how Fox Sports hired me
was because of that, and so you learn how to
try and navigate that. But it's early similar between sports
and comparing it to government.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
Right, Okay, so this is good because if you're covering,
if you're covering a sports scandal or something that could
become scandalous, right, you're gonna be likely it's going to
be a one and done thing, right, Like it's going
to be like, Okay, I covered that story and we're
going to let that sit. When it comes to like
CMS do they try to do They try to up
their game in the interim period where they're like, we

(01:33:19):
got to seal this off. Whatever it is, it's got
to be sealed off. So that breaking Bret Jensen doesn't
get into that line.

Speaker 7 (01:33:28):
It was definitely that way with the previous administration with
Ernest Winston, and it didn't matter at that point. I
had so many tentacles.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
Yeah, were people.

Speaker 7 (01:33:37):
It didn't matter no matter what you in, every regardless
of the department. Sure, I mean I had people in
the finance department, like I had people everywhere, Yeah, that
would reach out and say that's not true. This will
be on the lookout for this, or they're trying to
hide that or whatever. So this administration, like said, and
then I had a lot of carryover. And then in
the last two years or so, probably since late twenty three,

(01:34:02):
you know, January of twenty four, most of my time
has been focused in on politics local and state and
stuff like that because we had the big elections and
everything else, and you know, and that has sort of
shifted that in crime CNPD stuff, right, you know, So
that's I mean, I've shifted away from CMS for the
most part. But yeah, no, there's still like I mean,

(01:34:24):
you get that where people are trying to make sure
that they're trying to I want to say cover it up,
but they're trying to make sure leaks don't happen. They're
trying to keep everything in house. And the more you
try to keep it in house, the more something springs
the leak.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
So what do you what are you bringing up tonight?
What are are you looking at? The big stories that
are that are moving up here coming up tonight.

Speaker 7 (01:34:43):
Not that anyone's gonna know, yes, sir, but early voting
started today.

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
What as well?

Speaker 7 (01:34:49):
Oh my god, and I think all twelve people voted.
So you'll have that because it's city elections and so
we've got that going on. And I'm gonna talk about
because during my days in sports at the Charlotte Observer
and the Hickory Daily Record, especially at the Hickory Daily
Record when I was covering NASCAR, but specifically the Dale

(01:35:12):
Jarrett beat because he was up in Newton, which is
Kataba County, and I did a lot of Dale Jare
stuff and gourd of the races and stuff like that.
Got to know or not know. But like interact with
Humpy Wheeler quite a bit. That's great, and that man
born in Belmont went to Belmont Abbey. His dad, I believe,
was the athletic director at Belmont Abbey. But Humpy Wheeler

(01:35:34):
single handedly changed NASCAR and he was a great Charlotte teen.
He loved this city, he loved this area. And Humpy
Wheeler honestly helped build Charlotte, not just NASCAR, but Charlotte
by bringing making Charlotte Motor Speedway so great and such
a spectacle Memorial Day weekend. You always had the Indy

(01:35:55):
five hundred and then the Coca Cola six hundred's back
to back. And because that he brought in all these
outsiders into this tiny little town called Charlotte yep. In
the seventies and the eighties and even in the nineties
grade when it was not Charlotte then is what Greensboro
is today.

Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
That's awesome. That's all we're gonna talk about it that.

Speaker 7 (01:36:14):
We're just gonna got a couple other different things as well,
but those will be two primary points.

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
Great stuff. Look a Humpy Willer a legend. God God
rest his soul. Doctor Dobson a legend. Maybe he rest
in peace. And I can't wait to hear the show tonight.
Break in Brett Jensen's Next News Talk eleven ten, nine
nine three, Wake Ye

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