Leadership, China, And More On The Brett Winterble Show

Tune in here to this Tuesday's edition of the Brett Winterble Show! 

Brett kicks off the program by talking about the recent appearance of the President of the United States at the United Nations and the technical glitches that occurred — namely, a broken escalator and a failed teleprompter. He uses this moment to highlight what he sees as strong leadership, expressing relief that neither Joe Biden nor Kamala Harris represented the U.S. on that stage. Brett praises the president's speech, calling it a firm defense of Western civilization and a moment of true leadership.

We're joined by Gordon G. Chang from Gatestone Institute and a leading voice on U.S.–China relations to talk about escalating tensions with China and instability in the Asia-Pacific region. Brett kicks off the conversation with questions about whether former President Trump should travel to China to meet Xi Jinping. Chang strongly advises against it, explaining how Chinese diplomacy views such visits as a show of submission — a dangerous precedent.

Beth Troutman from Good Morning BT is also here for this Tuesday's episode of Crossing the Streams. Brett and Beth talk about the breaking news surrounding the Ryan Ruth verdict and the importance of staying engaged with local justice issues. Beth, joining from the road, shares that she’s en route to emcee a powerful event supporting Fields of Hope—a Charlotte-based nonprofit that combats human trafficking across North and South Carolina. She highlights the organization’s work in rescuing and rehabilitating survivors, offering long-term housing, job training, education, and psychological and spiritual support, all without a time limit. Beth encourages listeners to learn more or donate at https://www.wearefieldsofhope.org/. The conversation takes a heartfelt turn as Brett praises Beth’s commitment to such a critical cause. Beth also gives a quick preview of what she and Bo Thompson have coming up Wednesday on Good Morning BT

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Unbrett Witterable, who are you? Seven four five, seven, eleven ten,
News Talk eleven ten, nine nine three WBT. I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding. I know exactly who you are. We've
got the cameras trained on you, and it's wonderful to
be here. I am very excited. I am very excited
because I saw the President of the United States. I

(00:38):
saw him go into the belly of the beast, and
can you believe it? Can you believe that the escalator
didn't work? The escalator and the teleprompter did not work.
What kind of a shabby job is that? What are
you doing? What is going on? Yeah? I know, I know.

(01:04):
Ruth has been convicted and he's he went with five
counts of whatever nonsense that he's doing, and he tried
to stab himself with a pen after the verdict. That'll
be the sum total of me ever talking about Ruth.
I don't I don't think he's uh, he's he's meriting
that sort of that sort of attention. The President of

(01:26):
the United States laid down the line right there in
the United Nations General Assembly, and I got to tell
you something. I am so happy that Joe Biden wasn't
in there. I'm so happy that Biden wasn't the president.

(01:46):
I'm so happy that Kamala Harris wasn't the president because
the cackling and the and the and the you know,
weird sort of outtakes it was. It was just something
remarkable when the President of the United States and I've
got sound, I'm going to I'm gonna let you hear
the sound. When he was standing behind the podium at

(02:12):
the United Nations, he looked like the leader you would
want for the United States of America. He played the
part perfectly, and he filled it out perfectly. He didn't
pull any punches, he didn't do anything that was, you know,
silly or weird or anything like that. He laid it

(02:34):
down for these people. These people do not understand that
Western civilization is in the balance. I'm serious about this.
When you listen to what the President had to say
and the way he had to say it, it was

(02:55):
really remarkable. It was really somebody who you could acknowledge
which wants this country to be as great as it
could possibly be. He was not cruel, he was not mean,
he was not vicious. He was a man standing up

(03:17):
for the United States of America. This is the thing
that people don't get on the left. Jimmy Kimmel's coming
back on TV tonight. I've already set my DVR to
avoid him. I've got a Julia Child cooking show that
I'm going to be recording during that period of time,

(03:37):
so I don't have accidental contact with Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy
Kimmel wants to yell at you before you go to
bed at eleven o'clock. Jimmy Kimmel wants to be a
wise guy, wants to mock people who don't deserve mockery.
And don't forget why it was that he was suspended
about a week ago. Don't forget what he said at

(04:00):
Maga and the killer were the same people basically, and
and that that was a shot that was taken against
Mega and it was an insult to Charlie Kirk. So
I'm watching Julia Child, and then right after Juliet Child
the next half hour, I'm gonna be watching Uh the

(04:21):
Uh the the show that comes in from Japan that
gives us the first look at the at the money
and all that sort of stuff in the beginning. That's
that's what I'm gonna do. I'm not gonna spend any
time with Jimmy Kimmel. I don't care about Jimmy Kimmel.
I'm not gonna talk about Jimmy Kimmel because I don't
think he's relevant to the to the to the sort
of things that we are passionate about. I love my country.

(04:50):
Do you love your country? I love my country, and
I love people who I disagree with, including Jimmy Kimmel.
I'm not gonna watch him. I'm not gonna talk to him.
I'm not gonna hang with him. But you know what,
he's an American and he's got a right to his
own bad opinion, no doubt about it. I'm not gonna

(05:13):
stop you from watching. I'm not gonna tell you not
to watch, because that's what the left does. That's the
AOC fantastical illusion that goes on out there, right. But
you watch what you want to watch, you do what
you want to do. That is the greatness of choice.
We have a choice to see the directions that we

(05:34):
want to go.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Right.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
I choose a strong America. I choose not to watch
the goofy channels on CNN and MSNBC, and hey, I
hate this guy, and hey, I hate that guy. No, no, no,
no no. I consume the stuff that I want to consume,
and you consume what you want to consume, and that's
perfectly fine. In fact, I think, I think in this

(05:59):
day age, we've really gotten to a place where when
we think about it, we shouldn't fixate about any of
this other stuff. You get what I'm saying now, if
I can take a personal measure for just a second here.

(06:22):
So I was invited back to Emerson to give a talk.
I was invited to go and give a talk and
talk in the aftermath, obviously of the killing of Charlie Kirk,
my alma mater. I set up everything I was going
to do. I knew exactly how it was going to go.

(06:44):
I knew exactly what I was going to say. I
was ready for the debate, I was ready for all
of that stuff. And I got a message in the overnight, Sorry,
we can't do it today because we're still setting up
in the new setup that we have for these new

(07:05):
folks who have come into the school. It was only
going to be one of me and thirty of them,
and they don't have the convictions of their beliefs we
one today. We won at the United Nations. We won

(07:26):
today on our own merits. We are the greatest country
in the world. There is nobody that I would rather
spend time with than each and every one of you. Why.
Because you're smart, you have great takes. Whether you agree
or disagree, it makes no mind to me. I like

(07:50):
having the conversation. We will do that for the next
two hours and forty five minutes. There's talk eleven ten

(08:13):
ninety nine to three WBT. Good to be with you.
All right, let's dive into some of the sound from
this morning, and I gotta tell you, I think it
was fantastic. I'm not going to overly push it, but
here is Here is the President of the United States
with a critique on how he got in there. Let
me just say this really quickly. He was supposed to

(08:34):
only give a fifteen minute speech. He gave well over
an hour. It was worth it. Cut number two. Please.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
All I got from the United Nations was an escalator
that on the way up, stopped right in the middle.
If the first lady wasn't in great shape, she would
have fallen. But she's in great shape. We're both in
good shape. We both stood and.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Then a tell a prompt that didn't work.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
This is These are the two things I got from
the United Nations. A bad escalator and a bad teleprompter.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
And by the way, it's working now, just went on,
thank you. I think I should just do it the
other way. It's easier, Thank you very much. I didn't
think of it at the time because I was too
busy working to save millions of lives, that is the
saving and stopping of these wars. But later I realized
that the United Nations wasn't there for us.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
They weren't there.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
I thought of it really after the fact, not doing
these negotiations, which were not easy. That being the case,
what is the purpose of the United Nations? The UN
is such tremendous potential. I've always said it. It has
such tremendous tremendous potential. But it's not even coming close

(09:56):
to living up to that potential for the most part,
at least for no now. All they seem to do
is write a really strongly worded letter and then never
follow that letter up.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
It was fantastic because he stands there and he talks
right to their faces, the same way he did when
when he came back into the White House and came
into the UH. Obviously it was not the State of
the Union, it was it was the speech that he
gave when he came back into the office. But the

(10:30):
United Nations is something that is it's just been a
terrible failure. So the President decided he was going to,
you know, point things out to people there in the
in the arena. Cut number four. I love this because
he says it right to the Venezuelans faces. He lays

(10:54):
it down for them so they understand what's coming next.
Cut number four.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Please this reason, we've recently begun using the supreme power
of the United States military to destroy Venezuela terrorists and
trafficking networks led by Nicholas Maduro. To every terrorist thug
smuggling poisonous drugs into the United States of America, please

(11:18):
be worned that we will blow you out of existence.
That's what we're doing. We have no choice. Can't let
it happen. They're destroying savage drug cartels as Forrest, and
you see this, and you see it happening right before
your eyes.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Let's put it this way.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
People don't like taking big loads of drugs in boats anymore.
There aren't too many boats that are traveling on the
seas by Venezuela.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
They tend not to want to travel very quickly anymore.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
And we've virtually stopped drugs coming into our country by sea.
We call them the water drugs. They kill hundreds of
thousands of people. I've also designated multiple savage drug cartels
as far as foreign terrorist organizations, along with two bloodthirsty
transnational gangs, probably the worst gangs anywhere in the world,

(12:12):
MS thirteen and Trend de Arugua.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Trend de Ragua's from Venezuela, by the way.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
So the great thing about what he was saying in
that moment was the cutaway for the people who were
part of the Venezuelan group, the people who were sitting
there with the translators on their ears, and the President
was laying it down right to them. He was saying, listen,
this is what's happening.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Now.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
There's a problem. There is a problem that's going on here.
Adam Schiff wants the Venezuelan drug smugglers to be protected.
So does Tim Kane. They are trying to pull a
one to eighty on the War Powers Act, and they
want to make sure that the Caribbean, the Caribbean is

(13:03):
going to be made great again. For cocaine, fentanyl and
drugs coming into the United States to murder your kids.
If you don't believe me, just call their offices. Call
Shifty Shift's office, Call Tim Kain's office. They said it
yesterday that they are going to look into and how

(13:26):
they can stop the President of the United States from
sinking these boats, sinking these ships that are coming in.
There's absolutely no doubt in the evidence that they are
bringing the drugs into the United States of America or
bringing them very closely to the United States. But Adam Shift,
does Adam Shift get a viig? Does he get like

(13:48):
a cut? How does he Why does he come out
and do that sort of thing? Why does Tim Kain
want people to be poisoned by this menace that is out.
I don't understand it. What could possibly be the purpose
for wanting to do that? Does anybody have an idea?

(14:09):
Because the only thing I can come up with is
somebody's getting paid. Somebody's getting paid on the line right there,
somebody is doing something that they shouldn't be doing. I mean,
is it so far fetched?

Speaker 5 (14:25):
You know?

Speaker 1 (14:26):
We've seen people who have traded, who have traded in
stocks when they got inside information. There's a former speaker
the name escapes me now, but a former female speaker
who was really very wealthy and became even more wealthy.
I can't remember what was Their name was Hillary Clinton.

(14:46):
It might be Hillary Clinton. I can't remember. At any rate.
You don't think that there are people in the American
government that are getting pieces of the action. I think
it's entirely possible. I think it's likely, and unfortunately, it
probably won't be any kind of an investigation. So for

(15:08):
the time being, the President is going to ride hard
these people who are trying to poison your families, your kids,
all of that stuff, all of that stuff. And yes, yes,
it is true, it is true. We will be the
bad guys. We will be the bad people for trying

(15:28):
to save people's lives. You know, that's how it goes,
because you can't win for trying. News Talk eleven three WBT.

(15:55):
Did you guys see this bust that took place over
in New York City Secret Service tracing swatting threats against officials.
They found three hundred servers capable of crippling New York
City's cell system. That feels to me like a precursor

(16:16):
to a terrorist attack that was probably in the works
by Could it be Amas? On Christmas Day twenty twenty three,
a man called the Suicide Prevention hot line claiming that
he had shot his girlfriend and threatening to kill himself.
Police barreled towards the address, but turned around before they arrived.

(16:40):
It was a hoax. A swatting call at Representative Marjorie
Taylor Green's Georgia residents. Five days later, Republican Senator Rick
Scott's home was swatted. The wave of false alarms about
shoe and violence continued to assail high level government officials.

(17:04):
The federal judge overseeing the Trump election subversion case, then
Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley mains Democratic Secretary of State.
Within a month of Donald Trump clinching his second presidential
election win, Several of his cabinet picks and administration appointees

(17:25):
are also targeted with the threats, including calls about bombs
and swatting. His transition team said the threats were not legitimate.
There were no shootings, there was no violence. Still a
surge of swatting calls against high ranking officials posed a

(17:45):
real imminent threat to the Secret Services protection operations and
Matt McCool that's his name, the Special Agent in charge
of the agency's New York City Field office. So a
fledgling unit of the service set out six months ago

(18:06):
to unmask the layers of burner phones, changing numbers, and
simcards swatting American officials. The Advanced Threat Interdiction Unit, along
with a flurry of other law enforcement agencies of the
Department of Homeland Security, the Office of the Director of

(18:29):
National Intelligence, the New York City Police Department, and other
state and local law enforcement began unraveling the web. What
they found was an operation apparently capable of chaos far
beyond masking swatting calls, to potentially disabling cell phone towers,

(18:53):
disrupting emergency services, and enabling spies, hackers, and organized crime.
The new unit traced the swatting signals to an apartment
just outside of New York City. They found another rented space,
then more no one was inside. Instead, they found a

(19:18):
vast and stunning network of more than one hundred thousand
SIM cards and three hundred SIM servers, the largest seizure
ever of such devices. By the Secret Service, all concentrated

(19:40):
within thirty five miles of New York City. The servers
could be commanded remotely to create massive amounts of phone
traffic in a stealthy and unceasing operation that switched out
sim cards quickly to keep federal law enf pforcement off

(20:00):
its trail. The hidden electronic maze was so powerful it
could have sent an encrypted and anonymous text to every
human being in the United States within twelve minutes. McCool
said it could have overwhelmed cell towers, toppling New York

(20:23):
City's cell service and preventing every Manhattan resident from accessing
Google Maps. The electronic safe houses were found in places
including armanc, New York, Greenwich, Connecticut, Queens, New York, and

(20:44):
across the river in New Jersey, essentially forming a circle
around New York City's cellular network infrastructure. Officials briefed on
the investigation said the Secret Service hasn't announced any arrests
connected to the operation, but its early forensic analysis suggests

(21:08):
foreign governments and criminals in the US have used the
network to run their organizations. That includes cartels, that includes
human traffickers, that includes terrorists. It's absolutely well funded and

(21:29):
well organized. The network has been taken down and is
no longer a threat to New York law enforcement, but
McCool cautioned it would be unwise to think that there's
not other networks across the country. The Secret Service unit
is now working to identify other similar networks. The potential

(21:52):
for disruption to our country's telecommunications posed by this network
dev of devices cannot be overstated. The US Secret Service
Director Sean Curran said. Wireless service provider mobile X, whose
simcards are featured in photographs of items seized in the investigation,

(22:14):
said it was quote fully prepared to cooperate with the
authorities should they reach out. Quote. We are aware of
recent reports that mobile x SIM cards, along with those
of other providers, were recovered during a federal investigation. Mobile

(22:34):
x founder Peter Adderton said in a statement, our platform
is designed to be easy to use and cost effective,
qualities that unfortunately can attract bad actors. Mobile x has
robust safeguards in place to identify and block automated or

(22:56):
bulk usage, and we will shut down suspicious activity on
our network every day. Seven four, five, seven eleven, ten.
Let's grab this call from Dave. Welcome to the program, Dave,
how are you doing today, sir? Doing well, Thank you
very much, sir.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Fantastic here you are posing the question about why people
would want to stop stopping illegal drugs coming into the country. Yes, sir,
my take on it is oftentimes addiction begets addiction, or
dependency begets dependency. If you keep people supplied with this stuff,

(23:39):
they're more than likely and oftentimes going to be dependent
on the government to subsidize the rest of their lives.
What be it housing, food stamps? What have you sure
when that stops, if that stops or even gets curtailed,
And you need only look at who the people are

(24:00):
that are trying to keep it from being stopped, and
know the party that is more likely to give away
the farm than those are who are not. They don't.
I don't think there's so much worried about money as
they are. Power. Power is more attractive to these people

(24:20):
than than money could ever possibly be.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
I I absolutely agree everything you just said and I
and I think that's a very important point. Uh. There
there is no aphrodisiac quite so sexy as as as power,
and no doubt about it. I I co sign it
completely with you. So I gotta I gotta tell you guys,

(25:04):
this story the United Nations, the United Nations General Assembly
is happening in New York City, right, and President went
out and he spoke said a bunch of really interesting things.
I'm gonna play some more of it in a little
bit here. But one of the things that people are

(25:25):
not familiar with, but this is this is really, this
is true. This is a real story. Is that the
Iranian diplomats and I think probably the Maduro diplomats, they
get to be in the United States. Right, So you've
got these people who are in the United States who
hate the United States, and they get to go to big,

(25:46):
fancy restaurants and they get to meet up with people
and they get to do all this kind of stuff
all the way around.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
Right.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Well, here's the thing. They take advantage of us. They
take advantage of us. Right. So, for example, when the
diplomats come to the United States, they go out shopping.
They go shopping for like jewelry and whiskey and whatever
it is, and then they take it back home to Iran.

(26:16):
They also really like to shop. Where do you think
they like to shop? Give me a guess, any guess
you want? They like going to Costco. Yes, yes, they
go to Costco. Look, you can't. You got to be
you know, those hot dogs are awesome, those hot dogs

(26:38):
and those chicken bakes and all that kind of stuff. Sure,
no doubt about it. Now the United States is blocking
Iranian diplomats in the US from shopping at Costco because
they want to go in and they want to buy
televisions and computers and all kinds of stuff like that.
The Trump administration is blocking Iranian diplomats from accessing the

(26:59):
wholesale club stores like Costco and purchasing luxury goods while
in the United States, said State Department. This is one
of the most This is one of the most unfortunate
names for a guy. Okay, State Department spokesperson Tommy Piggott
said on Monday. Iranian officials visiting New York for the

(27:23):
annual UN General Assembly are also restricted to the areas
strictly necessary to transit to and from UN Headquarters district
to conduct their business their official UN business, Piggott said
in a statement Monday. The US government has put restrictions
on the Iranian delegations movements in the past. In a

(27:47):
notice scheduled to be published in the Federal Register. The
State Department said Iranian officials, including those stationed at the
Iranian Mission in New York, must obtain approval to have
a member and purchase items at any wholesale club in
the United States, to include, but not limited to, cost Co,

(28:10):
Sam's Club and BJ's Wholesale Club. They have to go
to the Lighthouse and get permission to go buy stuff
over there. How about that, Isaac, I mean there's a
lot of stuff you can get. Wholesale stores sell items

(28:30):
in bulk at competitive prices, so the band will prevent
the Iranians from stocking up on products not available in
their home country, which is under crippling sanctions. They must
also receive permission to purchase luxury items valued at one
thousand dollars or more, including watches, leather, silk, apparel, furs, jewelry, perfumes, electronics,

(28:58):
alkyhol as well as cars valued over sixty thousand dollars quote.
We will not allow the Iranian regime to allow its
clerical elites to have the shopping spree in New York
while the Iranian people endure poverty, crumbling infrastructure, and dire
shortages of water and electricity. In addition to the restrictions

(29:22):
on the Iranian delegations movements, the Trump administration also blocked
visas for officials from the Palestinian authority, including President Mahmud Abbas,
and that they were unable to attend the two State
conference on Monday. Look, this is what happens when you

(29:44):
don't want to play nice. This is what happens when
you go and you kill innocent people. This is what
happens when you terrorize and you're a terrorist, and all
that sort of stuff. We don't have to Why don't
you just go over to just go to England. England
will sell you whatever they want. But the stuff that
they sell in England isn't as good as the stuff
at the Costco because you don't deserve to have the

(30:06):
chicken bake and the hot dogs, not to mention the
most important thing of all, hot dog breads. News Talk eleven,

(30:41):
ten ninety nine to three WBT. If you missed the
last hour, you missed so much, and don't worry. You
always can go back. You can go back and you
can listen to the to the different hours that we archive,
so you know, if you got in the car a
little bit late and You're like, what were they talking about?
I can tell you this right now. Gordon's Chang's going
to join me at five thirty five coming up in

(31:03):
a little bit, talk about all the stuff that's going
on with China and the you know, the meetings that
they do over at the at the the the United Nations.
Let me tell you something about this. Okay, this is
this is very serious. The United Nations. Everybody gets to

(31:23):
give a speech. Everybody gets to give a speech. What
if I told you? And I'm not I'm not making
a joke. I'm not kidding around. This is serious. Guess
who's going to give a speech at the United Nations.
I don't know if it's if it's happened yet, it
may have already occurred. An al Qaeda guy, an al

(31:46):
Qaeda guy who happens to now be the president of Syria,
but once upon a time he was part of al Qaeda.
He's going to get a speech. What in the heck?

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Now?

Speaker 1 (32:01):
I know, I know, you know, it's what you know?
Nine to eleven's all forgotten. Nobody thinks about it anymore. Nonsense.
Well that is that is a disgusting reality about this.
And I just I sit back here, and I say
to myself, what are we What are we doing? What
are we doing? Let the guy give the speech from

(32:23):
you know, from Syria. Why do we have to bring
these people in? Why do I have to do all
this sort of stuff? All right? This commentary coming in
from the last segment, this is Jim Why or maybe
it's Jimmy. I don't know. It looks like it's Jim Why.
He says the Supreme leader in Iran is forced to
wear old spice after Trump cuts out the supply of Polo.

(32:48):
Do you really think that he's swearing the you think
that's what? Is that the brand he's got? I don't know.
I'm thinking gene Te maybe maybe like a little genete.
You know, you look all this sort of stuff that's
going on out there, it is you know. I got
a comment somebody came in and said, I'm sure the
family members of those killed by Iranian and terrorism enjoy

(33:12):
joking about them shopping at Costco. They shouldn't be allowed
to shop anywhere in the United States. It's, of course
that's true. But because we host the United Nations and
I don't have a name on the caller here, but
because we host the United Nations. We don't have any
say in blocking them. That's why there's an al Qaeda

(33:32):
guy going in and answering and doing his thing. That
that's why you have to allow these people to come in.
I would move the United Nations to I'd send it
over to London. Why does it have to be in
the United States. We don't need that. That real estate
is worth its weight in gold. In fact, President Trump

(33:53):
gave a speak a speech, and in his speech, this
is something that is so interesting. This is cut number three.
Read and this is President Trump talking about the building
of the United Nations and the referbing the United Nations.
Listen to this guy.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Many years ago, a very successful real estate developer in
New York known as Donald J.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
Trump.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
I bid on the renovation and rebuilding of this very
United Nations complex.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
I remember so well.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
I said at the time that I would do it
for five hundred million dollars.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Rebuilding everything.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
It would be beautiful.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
I used to talk about, I'm going to give you
marble floors. They're going to give you to Raza. I'm
going to give you a best of everything. You're going
to have mahogany walls. They're going to give you plastic,
but they decided to go in another direction, which was
much more expensive at the time, which actually produced a

(34:55):
far inferior product. And I realized that they did not
know they were doing when it came to construction, and
that their building concepts were so wrong and the product
that they were proposing to build was so bad and
so costly. It was going to cost them a fortune.
And I said, and wait till you see the overruns.
Well it turned out to be right. They had massive

(35:17):
cost overruns and spent between two and four billion dollars
on the building and did not even get the marble
floors that I promised them. You walk on to Raza,
do you notice that, as far as I'm concerned, frankly,
looking at the building and getting stuck on the escalator,

(35:38):
they still haven't finished the job. They still haven't finished
those years ago. The project was so corrupt that Congress
actually asked me to testify before them on the tremendous
waste of money because it turned out that they had
no idea what it was, but they knew it was
anywhere between two and four billion dollars as opposed to

(36:00):
five hundred million with a guarantee, but they had no idea,
and I said, it costs much more than five billion dollars. Unfortunately,
many things in the United Nations are happening just like that,
quite on an even much bigger scale, much much bigger.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
He's sad to see.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
So in the summer of nineteen ninety one, I did
an internship in New York City. I did an internship
in New York City at the CBS News Bureau it
was it was the National Bureau of CBS News, and
that was I've told the story in the past about

(36:41):
you know, there were all these people that would come
walking through. Dan Rather would come walking through, and other
people would be would be going through and would talk
to people, and Andy Rooney I saw him once upon
a time. So I got assigned with a photographer, a cameraman,

(37:01):
and there was an issue that was going on over
at the United Nations. It was I can't remember what
it was. It might have been. It might have been
an aftermath or the run up to a war. And
so they sent us over there. So they gave us
credentials right the the cameraman all he had to do

(37:23):
was shoot video or shoot you know, shoot the video stuff.
And I went with him, and it was very boring
at that stage of the game. It was just you
were on a stakeout basically waiting for these diplomats to
come out. And one of the things that struck me
being at the United Nations because we were inside the

(37:43):
UN and you go in there and the cameraman says
to me, do you have anybody that you want to call?
And I said, what do you mean, Do I have
anybody that I want to call? He says, you see
these phone booths. There's just like phone booths kind of
if people remember back in the in the old days
of a phone booth where you would sit down in there.

(38:06):
It's be wooden and then you would close the door
and you'd be able to make a phone call. He
said to me, you don't have to pay that, you
don't have to put a quarter in, you don't have
to do anything. The United Nations. You could call anybody
in the world on those phones as long as you
had the phone number. And I said, are you serious?
He goes, yeah, He goes, this is how they communicate.

(38:28):
It's it's phone. It's just phone phone kiosks right that
are there and you can go in there, and you
can just you can just pick up the phone and say,
I'm gonna go call somebody in Germany. I'm gonna call
somebody in Japan. I'm gonna call Now. I didn't know
anybody in Germany or Japan or anything like that, so
I called my parents, and my parents were just across
the river in New Jersey. But I could have I mean,

(38:49):
if I if I, if I wanted to, I could
have called. But isn't that crazy? You think about all
the people that go in there and work and then
they make these phone calls. Who the heck's paying for
the phone calls? Because it has to be it has
to be metered, it has to be paid for in
some in some particular way. And it was it was
remarkable to see that and to see, Wow, it could

(39:12):
call anybody in the whole world. I wish I knew
more people in the whole world. I just knew people
that were local news Talk eleven ten ninety nine to

(39:38):
three WBT Asteroid twenty twenty four year four may hit
the moon there. That's a possibility that we're looking at
right now. Scientists are baffled by a monster black hole
glowing or growing at two point four times the theoretical limit.
That's something that's going on out there in the outer space.

(40:00):
And then, of course an interstellar object is passing through
our solar system. This UC program says, stay calm and
carry on. That's right, you know it three i at lis.

(40:21):
There's a question out there about the three i at liss.
Forget alien spacecraft. Could interstellar object three i at lists
be a planet forming seed. I have no idea what
that means, but it doesn't sound good. Look, they're colonizing.

(40:42):
They're gonna colonize us. They're gonna come in here. And
this is this is very possible that this is what's
gonna happen. But that's not the worst story.

Speaker 5 (40:51):
This is.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
I'm dead serious when I read you this story. No, no,
this is like this is do you remember we were
talking about a vibrio uh with the warm water and
everything on Friday Cyphiliphus or whatever it was. Okay, we
got a bigger problem. No, we got a bigger Isaac
is he's taunting me, CBS News Health Watch. This is

(41:14):
really super serious. I'm not making not a joke at all,
As Joe Biden would say, not a joke. Cases of
drug resistant nightmare bacteria are rising in the US, according
to the CDC. That's why I was trying to tell
you guys what's going on here. Infection rates from drug

(41:38):
resistant nightmare bacteria rose almost seventy percent between twenty nineteen
and twenty twenty three, according to a new report from
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Scientists bacteria that
are difficult to treat due to the so called NDM

(42:01):
primarily drove the increase. CDC researchers wrote in an article
published Monday in the Annals of Internal Medicine. Only two
antibiotics work against those infections, and the drugs are expensive
and must be administered through an IV. Bacteria with the

(42:24):
gene were once considered exotic, linked to a small number
of patients who received medical care overseas. So it's got
to be exotic and you got to go overseas to
get it, I guess, is what they're saying. Though the
numbers are still small, the rate of US cases jumped

(42:46):
more than fivefold in recent years. It's likely many people
are unrecognized carriers of the drug resistant bacteria, which could
lead to community spread. Okay, I that's a phrase I

(43:07):
do not like saying it's a it's a phrase that
bothers me. Community spread, I know, remember they were doing that.
They were doing that during the COVID, during the during
the VID, back in the in the VID days, they
would say community spread and all that sort of stuff. Right,

(43:28):
It's likely many people are unrecognized carriers of the drug
resistant bacteria, which could lead to the community spread. So
everybody gets together, they start you know, that's that starts happening,
and that's a problem. Anti Microbial resistance occurs when germs

(43:51):
such as bacteria and fung gui gain the power to
fight off the drugs designed to kill them. The misuse
of antibiotics was a big reason for the rise. Unfinished
or unnecessary prescriptions that didn't kill the germs made them stronger.
H See, everybody wants to go and get antibiotics. Everybody,

(44:14):
you know what I mean, what did they do? What
did Davy Crockett do Once upon a time? What did
Daniel Boone? Do? What did Shelby do? What did John
Severe do? Rub some dirt on it. But you rub
some dirt on it. That's what you got.

Speaker 6 (44:31):
Now.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Everybody wants to get you. I needed I need it.
I need this, I need that. And by the way,
by the way, you know what I'm not. I'm not
gonna say what I was gonna say, because everybody knows
what I'm talking about. Yeah, he just did. Just come on,
come on, what we need is nuclear power, resistance. We

(44:52):
gotta get this stuff going, man, we gotta we gotta
get this. Yeah, we gotta get all this sort of
stuff going. So the people are a safer. So now basically,
Isaac's over here panicking. He's gotta he's got a like
a wash a washcloth on his head, and he's he's
he's he's feeling it bigly, and you know he's he's
sitting there, he's worried. Worried is an understatement. I mean

(45:14):
you were out, yes, sir, you weren't feeling well. Yeah,
why am I in this room with you? I wouldn't
be if what is happening I could have. No, don't
be resistant. We don't like the we don't like the resistance.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
We are.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
I am not on the resistance side of the thing.
Now he's now he's sniffing his drink. I don't know
what he's got going on over there, some kind of
a combination of V eight and and chicken soup or something.
I don't know what he's pouring down there, but that's look,
but we will we will survive, and we will be better.

(45:48):
We're gonna make resistance go away. We're gonna be the
people who are gonna protect us all the way, all
the way along. What about the planet see the planet Seed?
That kind of scares me because if that thing lands,
if you get spores on you from the planet Seed,
who knows what could happen. Hello, I'm Jupiter. I'm wearing

(46:11):
my mask. I'm not getting the sport News Talk eleven

(46:34):
ten now that I'm three w BT. We get comments
from people. Dave bringing it today. This is this is
a good one, Brett. Community spread equals homelessness or unsheltered
whatever term, unclean, gathered close proximity. Nah that you're overthinking this.
This is not. No, this is this is this is

(46:56):
not We're not overthinking you. Don't overthink this all right, Uh, madam,
welcome to the program. What is on your mind today? Hello? Hello, Hello,
can I help you?

Speaker 7 (47:12):
Yes, I'm holding on for Bret.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Okay, Well I'm Brett and i you're You're on the
air with me what is on your mind, ma'am.

Speaker 6 (47:19):
Oh, yes, Brett, it's right.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
It's oh okay, very nice to hear from you.

Speaker 6 (47:25):
Yes, regarding the interstellar three, I atlet yes. Now they're
asking could this be a claniforming seed? And my question
is could this be a false flag? And it's not
a joke.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Well, I mean, I think I think in terms of
the I think in terms of the false flag. Uh,
that would be something that would be like massively the
false flags don't usually happen with you know, interplanetary sort
of travel. You know what I'm saying That that would
be something very hard to be in control of. So
I think we would need to be folk is much

(48:00):
more on something happening here on Terra Firma, uh, and
not not this thing that's uh swirling around out there
in the universe.

Speaker 6 (48:11):
Now, I know that there's something out there because I'm
the one that saw the eye in the backyard.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Oh that's right. I do recall that conversation, and.

Speaker 6 (48:20):
I'm the one that saw the eye in the backyard
with the lashes. I'm not the only one that saw
it because Marnold counsella also sorry, and actually we were
the first one that I ever told on the air.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Yes, I do know, I know who you are. Yes, yes, absolutely,
I know exactly what you're talking about. Here's what I
here's what I would say. Here, here's what I would
say about this. Okay, I think we have to give
it another couple of weeks and then we can we
can maybe have a we can maybe have a meet
up about this, okay, and see.

Speaker 6 (48:51):
Maybe the reason that I'm asking is because it's not
being shown on television, I mean on the news.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Well, it's because it's still way out there, like there's
no there's no cameras up up there. They just have
the uh, the the imaging that comes from the you know,
the planetariums and things like that with the big telescopes.
So it's not it's not that close to us yet, right.

Speaker 6 (49:14):
But the thing is this this thing for me, I
believe that it's real that we do have intelligent life
out there. But it's not like, uh, it's just going
to pop.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Up to anyone, no, no, no.

Speaker 6 (49:26):
Take over like a false flag for everyone.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
But that wouldn't be a false flag, that would just
be an invasion. And so that so the invasion could happen, right,
and they could come in and they could they could
they could try to, you know, take us all for
a ride. I don't know. Look, I'm what the last
number that I saw was that this is supposed to
happen sometime around Halloween, and so people who are maybe

(49:50):
doing things on Halloween might want to look up while
they're while they're trick and treating at the same time,
you know, doing trick or treat and and see if
this thing goes on a flyboy. Now, it's supposed to
go behind the sun, is what they said. They goes
behind the sun and then it goes it comes back
out on the other side. I don't think that even
the I don't I don't think that we would have

(50:11):
the power to to have this thing a factor. But
but again, let's call me back on on Halloween night
and we can we can knock it around a little bit. Okay, Marie,
I appreciate that call. I you know this this is
this is just sort of like what we have to
do getting back to Terra Firma. Here, right, we're back
on We're back on land. You've got to hear this clip.

(50:33):
I think this is a phenomenal clip. This is and
I don't know how much of this I'm gonna play,
but I am gonna play some. And this is, of
course a guy called Morning Joe. And uh, there's there's
a whole panic going on now. The people over at Axios.
They think that Donald Trump is taking over the whole

(50:55):
world and all this crazy stuff like this. So what
do you say we dive into the power Noia, that
is MSNBC, And let's let's hear a little bit of
the big plan that they've got go.

Speaker 8 (51:07):
Arded territory in the use of presidential power. You just
walk through one small one on using the Justice Department
as a tool for vengeance and a tool for your
political agenda. And you might say, oh whatever, maybe the
Supreme Court will reverse that. The minute you're targeted, your
life is essentially ruined. You don't want the state, the

(51:27):
federal government being able to sort of unilaterally and haphazardly
go after you as an individual, and that's what you're
talking about doing. You have to lawyer up, your name
is dragged through the mud, you have to sit in court,
and you have to run the risk that a Supreme
Court might actually validate the actions of the White House.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
That's just one small piece.

Speaker 8 (51:49):
Then you look at the number of executive orders out
in a peacetime era. Nothing nobody has come close to
what Trump is doing. People complained about President Obama, who
did do a lot in stretching the use of executive
powered executive orders. I think he did two hundred and
thirty in two terms. Trump has done two hundred this year.
And then he declares emergencies for what when most people

(52:12):
would say is an emergency situation, to further the power
of the presidency. And the reason that Republicans should care
about it, just like Ted Cruz cared about the free
speech topic, is that all of these precedents. Make no mistake,
every one of these will be used against you and
potentially stretch further because you have Okay, now, so we're paranoid,

(52:34):
not us, not this audience.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
These people are paranoid. They want to see chaos, Like
do they not understand the tender box that is existing
in this country right now? Because you saw what happened
to Charlie Kirk. Okay, nobody wants that. Nobody wants that,

(52:59):
and so now now this is the next move, right,
Remember when they shot Donald Trump in Butler and then
Ryan Ruth wanted to try to kill Trump again. They're
at the at the uh at the golf at the
golf course. And what happened. He got convicted. So now
he's out of the he's out of the box. Now

(53:20):
they're turning Donald Trump into some kind of unfettered uh madman.
What is he doing? That's so bizarre? What is he doing?
You have the ability to impeach him if that's what
you want to do, if you win the twenty twenty
sixth election. But I gotta tell you, if if you
if you can't even stand the notion of cities being safer.

(53:43):
Uh there, Mike Allen and and uh you know that
the crew of those people running at axios, then what
what are you doing? Do you see what your poll
numbers are? Your poll numbers are putrid. They are so
underwater that you're not going to be able to get
back to eat even at this stage of the game.
You want open borders, you want criminals in the streets,

(54:06):
You want a weak economy. Who does that benefit? In
all seriousness, I'm not being hyperbolic, I'm not being wacky.
I'm being straight with you, guys. They want the economy
to crash. They don't want to see any of this
other stuff. And the problem is the problem is you

(54:29):
lost with Kamala Harris, you lost the House, you lost
the Senate. Okay, you guys have no plan. And now
they're gonna shut the government down. They're gonna shut the
government down. Chuck Schumer wants to shut the government down.
Hakeem Jeffries wants to shut the government down. And then
they're gonna come out and they're gonna say Donald Trump

(54:51):
shut the government down. They're the ones who don't want
to play ball by advancing a spending bill just to
Thanksgiving so that we can have a fulsome sort of
bill where people can understand we have to fund this,
we have to fund that. That's all this is. It

(55:12):
shouldn't be that hard. It's kind of like you're in
a marriage and you clash occasionally, nothing seriously, and you
are supposed to now go and pay the electric bill.
So you say, okay, I'm going to pay the electric bill.
And then for whatever reason, your spouse male or female

(55:36):
who knows, says I refuse to let you pay the
electric bill. So what do you think is going to
happen if you refuse to pay the electric bill? They're
going to turn the electric off. So either we fund
it or we don't. And unfortunately, what you've got now
going on over at MSNBC, going over at CNN and

(55:59):
all those channels, what you've got going on right now
is a bunch of people who just want to have
another sort of a crisis, because these are crisis addicted people.
Why is that because overwhelmingly, and this is my personal stance.
You can disagree with me, it's fine, you have an

(56:20):
overly emotional political party. In the Democratic Party, everybody is emotional.
We have to fund the government. If Chuck Schumer, who
can't even cook a cheeseburger on a grill, and Hakeem Jeffries,
who doesn't seem to want to force his Congress constituents

(56:46):
to fund the government, they want to just try to
create a clash, and that's not going to work because
they're overly emotional. These are the people last week who
were screaming and crying because there was the possibility of
a recognition that Charlie Kirk was murdered by a terrorist

(57:12):
and they did not want to see that mentioned inside
the House of Representatives. Well, the fact of the matter is,
had that man in over in Utah not murdered Charlie Kirk,
we would be in a different state of affairs. But

(57:33):
unfortunately a person who hated him murdered him and we
can't bring him back. So all I'm saying is we
have to pay the light bill. So how do you
choose to pay it? Travelers, check coins in a fountain

(57:54):
or are we just going to pay the bill and
not be overly emotional? Ah? You know what that means.
It means Beth Troutman's in the house and it's great
to have you here. Beth. A question for you right
out of the box. What do we think about the

(58:16):
Ruth verdict? The Ryan Ruth verdict? What's going on there?

Speaker 7 (58:21):
You know, I am oddly I am in the car
driving to an event that I am am seeing tonight.
You know that this is completely off of the topic
that you just asked. Sure, but I am am seeing
an event called sort of the organization's Fields of Hope,
which you know that human trafficking is one of my

(58:43):
passion projects. Sure got free documentaries on the topic in
Georgia and worked with organizations here and Fields of Hope
is one of those local organizations and they're having a
huge fundraiser tonight and I am am seeing the event
to try to help them raise funds to con you
battling the issue of human trafficking here in Charlotte and

(59:04):
helping women get the help that they need. And I
say all of that to say that I have been
in the car for quite a bit and haven't seemed
the verdict.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Oh okay, no problem, it's uh, it was guilty, five
counts of guilty. He tried to stab himself, uh at
at the termination point and uh so so uh he's
he's gonna he's gonna be gone for for a long time.
But tell me, tell me more about tell me more
about your program that you're doing, because certainly I'm sure
there are people in the audience here who would love

(59:33):
to support it and to uh and to uh uh
maybe maybe donate.

Speaker 7 (59:38):
Oh you're so so sweet to say that, and yes,
please please do. It's called Fields of Hope and they
are a local organization. They help women all over the
state of North Carolina, in South Carolina. They help remove
women from trafficking situations, they help rehabilitate, they help find jobs,

(59:58):
they help educate, and really importantly, if you're really concerned
about young people in our communities. They also help educate
families and young people so that they can understand the
signs of human trafficking and not fall victim, because we
know that that's an issue with young people in our
area as well. So they work on multiple levels to

(01:00:22):
combat human trafficking but also to help and rehabilitate those
who have been victims of it. So they have a
house here in the Charlotte area where they help rehabilitate.
And the beautiful thing about what they do is they
don't put a time limit on how long these women
can stay and how long they can get the help
and the assistance.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
That they need.

Speaker 7 (01:00:43):
They provide psychological assistance, they provide based assistance, so they
help on multiple levels.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
That's a beautiful, beautiful group of people.

Speaker 7 (01:00:53):
And it was started by a woman who was trafficked herself.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Oh my gosh, that's horrible. Where do people go to
support it?

Speaker 7 (01:01:01):
They can go to their their website which is Fields
Ofpope dot org and that can donate, can get more information,
and we're we're having the event in on Central right
off of Central Avenue. You can even come and find
out more and and be part of the event. Although
I know that that's last minute.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Well, really a beautiful group of people so happy to
support it. Thanks so much, Beth, that God bless you
and God bless them. So we've got a whole bunch

(01:01:39):
of storylines that are moving here in real time. We
just had the conviction of Ryan Ruth. Earlier today in
the program. We also had the United Nations getting together
the u n g A, as they call it, the
United Nations General Assembly. They were together in New York City.

(01:02:00):
President Trump gave a real big sort of speech and
one of the things that I want to do. We've
got Gordon G. Chang coming up by the way at
five point thirty five in this hour, I want you
guys to hear some of the stuff that President Trump
talked about. And it's it's it's stuff that I think
is really important, and it's it's going to kind of

(01:02:22):
move the needle I think a little bit uh in
this regard. All right, so let me let me go.
I want to go right out of the box on this. Okay,
a lot of people were at work, they didn't hear it.
This is cut number five on our on our list,
and President Trump did Yeoman's work to explain to the
US the United Nations General Assembly, why illegal immigration is

(01:02:48):
dangerous for countries and this is this is what he
said this morning. Cut five.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
We have reasserted that America belongs to the American people,
and I encourage all countries to take their own stand
in defense of their citizens as well.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
You have to do that because I see it. I'm
not mentioning names.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
I see it, and I could call every single one
of them out. You're destroying your countries. They're being destroyed.
Europe is in serious trouble. They've been invaded by a
force of illegal aliens like nobody's ever seen before. Illegal
aliens are pouring into Europe. Nobody is every and nobody's
doing anything to change it, to get them out. It's

(01:03:35):
not sustainable. And because they choose to be politically correct,
they're doing just absolutely nothing about it. And I have
to say, I look at London, where you have a
terrible mayor, terrible terrible mayor, and it's been so changed,
so changed. Now they want to go to Sharia law,

(01:04:01):
but you're in a different country.

Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
You can't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Both the immigration and their suicidal energy ideas will be
the death of Western Europe. If something is not done immediately,
they cannot, This cannot be sustained. What makes the world
so beautiful is that each country is unique. But to
stay this way, every sovereign nation must have the right
to control their own borders.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
You have the right to control your borders as.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
We do now, and to limit the sheer numbers of
migrants entering their countries and paid for by the people
of that nation that were there and that built that particular.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
Nation at the time.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
They put their blood, sweat, tears, money into that country,
and now they're being ruined. Proud nations must be allowed
to protect their communities and prevent their societies from being
overwhelmed by people they have never seen before, with different customs, religions,
with different into everything. Where migrants they're violated laws, large

(01:05:04):
false asylum claims, or claimed refugee status for illegitimate reasons,
they should in many cases be immediately sent home. And
while we will always have a big heart for places
and people that are struggling, and truly compassionate answers will
be given, we have to solve the problem, and we

(01:05:26):
have to solve it in their countries.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
Not create new problems in our countries.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
And we are very helpful to a lot of countries
that are just not able to send their people anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
They used to send them to us in.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
Caravans of twenty five thirty thousand people each, These massive
caravans of people pouring into our country, totally unchecked and unvetted,
but not anymore. According to the Council of Europe, in
twenty twenty four, almost fifty percent of inmates in German
prisons were foreign nationals or migrants. In Austria, the number

(01:06:01):
was fifty three percent. Of the people in prisons were
from places that weren't from where they are now. In
Greece the number was fifty four percent, and in Switzerland,
beautiful Switzerland, seventy two percent of the people in prisons
are from outside of Switzerland. When your prisons are filled

(01:06:22):
with so called asylum seekers who repaid kindness, and that's
what they did, they repaid kindness with crime, it's time
to end the failed experiment of open borders.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
You have to end it now. Let's see.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
I can tell you I'm really good at this stuff.
Your countries are going to hell.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
You know. Since nineteen forty five, we've entrusted the body
with the sacred duty of preserving peace and what does
it become a theater of empty resolutions, a bureaucracy bloated

(01:07:03):
with compromise, a sanctuary for regimes that mocked liberty while
silencing dissent, especially in Western Europe. The corruption is not theoretical,
it is documented, it is grotesque, it is ongoing. So
why are we still doing this? One only has to

(01:07:24):
look at some of the scandals. In Haiti, UN peacekeepers
brought cholera to a nation already devastating, devastated, killing thousands.
No one was held accountable. The Democratic Republic of the
Congo peacekeepers were implicated in sex abuse and exploitation against
the very people that they were sent to protect. In Mali,

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the UN mission collapsed under the weight of its own irrelevance,
with drawing and disgrace as violence surged and across Gaza, Sudan,
Ukraine and the United Nations failed to prevent atrocities, failed
to enforce peace, and failed to stand for the innocent.

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It's not peacekeeping, this is peace posturing and the cost
is measured in lives lost, freedoms crushed, and tyrants emboldened.
What we need, ladies and gentlemen, we have to build
something greater than the UN General Assembly, a coalition not

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of convenience but of conviction, a league of free nations,
bound not by bureaucracy but by belief in liberty, sovereignty,
and moral clarity. We have to reject the false promise
of the global consensus when that consensus includes despots and murderers.

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We need to forge a new alliance of democracies, of defenders,
of those who still believe that freedom is worth fighting for.
We're not the world's police, far from it, but we
are it's last firewall against chaos. Today, as terror networks

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like al Qaeda exploit the UN's failures to justify their
own twisted crusades, we have to claim the moral high ground,
not with platitudes, but with purpose. There's talk eleven ten

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nine nine three WBT Brett Winnable show. I'm really serious
about this topic that I was just talking about about
how it is that we have got to protect our country.
The president did what he did, and remember, for folks,
remember this is very important. The president will only be

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in office for you know, a couple more years, and
then will we see will we see the country change
in a in a massive way. You know, you sit
back there and you look at you look at all
of this stuff, and it's it's just it's it's remarkable.

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There are people who made an effort, a strong effort,
to take this country in a in a direction that
it should not go. You know, we we are the
enviable country. People want to come here, people want to

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do things, and I think people forget what was done
to the American people back in the uh the Biden
Obama administration, the Obama Biden administration. It goes back to
two thousand and nine. Remember, Barack Obama and Joe Biden

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won the election, and they won that election largely on
saying that Mitt Romney was a terrible person. He was
an awful person. He shouldn't be the president of the
United States. Now I'm not a Mitt Romney fan by
any stretch, but Mitt Romney's pretty milk toast. I mean,
I think it's been established.

Speaker 5 (01:11:33):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Well, let's go back in time when Marie Harf and
Jen Saki, we're all running the show on that first
term of the presidency of the United States for Barack
Obama and Joe Biden. The context is important following the
Arab Spring and the uprisings in Iran's Green Movement in

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two thousand and nine, which Barack Obama turned his back
on by the way he urged people to go out
into the streets, and then he didn't deliver the goods
in that regard. And some of that was because of
the handlers he had there at the White House. They
were restraining him from from actually pushing for a revolution.

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The Middle East and North Africa plunged into instability. We're
starting to get into that period of time. You may
remember that that was Benghazi, right, remember Benghazi. So it
was plunged into instability. Civil wars in Libya, Syria, and Iraq,

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combined with climate stress and economic collapse, triggered one of
the largest refugee movements since World War Two. Now isn't
that something? Isn't that something? Suddenly we had to have
a mass migration into Europe in twenty nine. By twenty fifteen,

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over a million migrants and asylum seekers had reached Europe
via the Mediterranean. They went off in boats. The EU
was overwhelmed. Responses varied wildly between member states, enter stage

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far left. George Soros, through his Open Society Foundations, he
advocated for structured responses to the crisis. That was the
public facing, a thing that was he was trying to
look at. They admitted, he proposed, he proposed, and they

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admitted three hundred to five hundred thousand refugees annually into
the EU in a voluntary matter. Can you imagine living
in Charlotte, living around Charlotte, living around North Carolina and
South Carolina, and having to admit three hundred to five

(01:14:11):
hundred thousand refugees annually? How can that function? What did
he do? He used EU financial strength to fund the
refugee integration and border management. There was no border management.

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There were fences and they cut them down, matching refugees
to countries based on preferences and capacity, similar to how
medical interns are matched in hospitals. Really, is that what happened?
We had chaos all around Europe. Soros said that you

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can stabilize Europe by reducing border chaos, and the national
backlash that didn't work. He said it was about upholding
human rights. Well was it? In Hungary and parts of
Eastern Europe, leaders like Victor Orbon launched national campaigns accusing

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Soros of trying to Islama's eyes and deed christianize Europe.
That was what Soros was trying to say out there.
He was trying to say, no, no, no, We're going
to bring all these people in. But nobody voted for that.
Nobody wanted that. Donald Trump at least had a vote

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in this last election that gave him the permission to
lock down the borders. He pushed. Soros pushed border fences
to be torn down for EU wide quotas. He sought
to punish countries resisting migration with political pressure. This is

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a problem. No country is ready to take on this
sort of scale five hundred thousand every year in the
European Union. You do know that they're socialists, right, You
do know that they don't have endless pots of money

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like the United States has with a strong economic engine.
But this is what ended up happening, and the fundamental
change was written large in two thousand and nine one
point five million, in twenty fifteen, two point five million,
in twenty twenty one two point eight six million, twenty

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twenty two, six point seven million, and by twenty twenty
three you had seven point three six million people bolt
coming into Europe. They came through irregular routes they used
the settlement screens all of that stuff, and that is

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something that is very difficult to try to assimilate. Our
efforting Gordon G. Chang expecting him to give us a

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ring and ing here coming up here soon. We've we
are Look, there's a lot of stuff that's going on
out here. There's a ton of this, and one of
the things that we want to do is, you know,
one of the things that we want to do is,
you know, have a have a great conversation all that
good stuff right there. Uh, you know, I know it.
It's it's it's all about it. Seven oh four five,

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seven oh eleven ten is the teleph number. So one
of the questions that I have for Gordon, and there's
a decision that was made in the last couple of moments,
in the last couple of hours, I should say about
whether or not Donald Trump is going to go over
to China. And the fact of the matter is, we

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don't we don't know how how this is going to go.
And I'm very curious to hear to hear his thoughts.
Welcome to the program, Gordon G. Chang, Dougs, thanks so
much for making time for us today. Sir Gordon. Good
to have you.

Speaker 5 (01:18:45):
Thank you, Brett.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
I have a question for you, and it's something that
I think the audience will benefit from in your analysis,
and it's this, the President was hot to go and
maybe meet up with Ginping in China. It sounds like
maybe that's not going to happen for a longer period
of time. Can you explain to the audience why it

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would be a mistake to go to meet with she
before she comes to the United States. Can you break
that down for me?

Speaker 5 (01:19:19):
Yeah, For too millennia, the Chinese diplomacy has been to
get everyone to go to the Grand Chinese capital to
show that Chinese superiority, you know, so they view people
who go to their capital first as vassals. Now President
Trump obviously doesn't think that he's a vassal. President Trump

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doesn't think the Chinese are in a superior position, but
the Chinese will. And there are a couple of implications here.
One of them is that the Chinese will propagate this
narrative around the world and people will buy into it,
and that'll make it much more difficult for President Trump
to accomplish his goals because everyone will think that Chinese

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are on top and The second thing just flows from that,
and that it emboldens the Chinese, it makes them more arrogant.
So it feeds into this Chinese narrative, and so it's
not good for the United States. Yeah, it's okay for
President Trump to talk to Sejian Thing, but have him
talked to us, have him come here first before we go.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
There is there a likelihood or a possibility that he
would actually make the trip first coming into the United States.

Speaker 5 (01:20:30):
Well, certainly China needs us much more than we need them,
So if this were just a pure power issue, yeah,
he should be coming here first. President Trump is a
really generous streak. I mean, we've seen this with Vladimir
Putin and we're now seeing it with Cajian Thing. And
Trump is doing his best to give both of those

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guys off ramps. Now, Unfortunately, neither Putin nor see are
willing to take them, so at some point President Trump's
got to lose his patients with both of them.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
I have another question for you about this area of
contention here, and it goes to what's going on in
South Korea. We saw, obviously we heard now that Charlie
Kirk was assassinated. He was doing good work there in

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South Korea. What does that government look like? And are
are we at the risk of something terrible coming out
of South Korea in the way of being in turning
away from the United States.

Speaker 5 (01:21:39):
We're certainly at risk of that. E J Mung, who
was elected on president on June three, is very pro China,
very pro North Korea, and he either abhoors or actually
hates the United States. In twenty twenty one, when he
was running for the nomination of the Democratic Party at Korea,
which is the leftist party, called us our troops and

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occupying force. And then he said something even more explosive
in that the United States was responsible for the continuation
of Japanese colonialization of Korea. So he doesn't like us.
He's been doing his best as president to take down
the democratic institutions of South Korea. For instance, he's been

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attacking the churches. He's been trying to outlaw the main
opposition party. He has been trying to jail protesters. This
is a really bad dude. And the other thing is
that he could easily take South Korea and make it
a vassal state of China, and Ye is very much

(01:22:44):
in favor of that. So we could end up losing
our treaty. And remember, South Korea anchors the northern part
of our western defense perimeter. So this has implications not
just for the Koreans but for US. And by the way,
the only thing that preventing Ye from doing all the
things he wants are the people of South Korea, because

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they're very much in our camp. They like the United States,
They're very pro American.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Is he is? He? Is he a for lack of
a better word, Is he a stooge relative to UH,
to North Korea and and and China and that in
that regard, Yeah, you could.

Speaker 5 (01:23:23):
Call him a stooge. He certainly wants to achieve help
Pianyang and Beijing achieve their goals. He is uh. You
know South Korea right now is has the rotating presidency
of the UN Security Council. He's been using that to
help Iran avoid sanctions. So uh, this is across the board.

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This is somebody who is very much trying to accomplish
foreign policy goals that undermine the US and the free
world for that matter.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Visiting with Gordon g Chang, Uh follow him on on
X and and follow all the great stuff he does
at Gordon G. Chang, A final question for you. I
know you've been looking very closely at what's going on
at Scarborough Shale. This does seem to be like it's
going to be a flashpoint. What is the latest in
that regard in that moment.

Speaker 5 (01:24:15):
The latest incident was last Tuesday where there was a
collision between Philippine and Chinese vessels and two Chinese Coastguard
cutters for almost a half hour use their water cannons
on a small Philippine craft. They damaged the craft, they
injured a Philippine sailor. This comes after the August eleventh

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collision where a Chinese destroyer sliced off the bow of
a Chinese Coastguard cutter, killing at least four Chinese Coast guardsmen.
China intends to take over Scarborough Show, which is in
the South China Sea, and control the upper portion of
the South China Sea. We can't let them do this.
We have a treaty obligation to defend the Philippines and

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China is not stopping Putin's not stopping things, not stopping.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
Wow, dictators are in high cotton at this stage of
the game. I guess Gordon Chang, thank you so much
for spending time with us. We really appreciate all you
bring to us.

Speaker 5 (01:25:11):
Oh, thank you, Brett. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
It's my pleasure. News Talk eleven ninety nine to three WBT.
It is the Brett Winterable Show. It is good to
be with you. Coming up next, you're going to be
hearing from Breaking with Brett Jensen, and then after that

(01:25:34):
you're going to be hearing from TJ. Ritchie. Lots of
great content for you all to be a part of
this throughout the rest of the entire night. But let's
take a let's take a little walk down memory lane
a little bit looking at some of the big stories
that have been happening in the last sort of moments

(01:25:57):
of this final program of the day. At this stage,
Ryan Ruth has been convicted and Ryan Ruth was found
guilty in the attempt to kill Donald Trump. He went
pro sey in the court, which means he was making
he was his own defense and didn't have a lawyer

(01:26:21):
doing that, although he may have had an advisor, but
he was going on his own stuff and so he
has he has now been convicted of this. I want
to understand a couple of things about this though, Okay,
I want to know what the backstory is with him
being out there on the yard, with him being out

(01:26:41):
there on the at the golf course, being able to
kind of hide and do this sort of stuff. What
was his intent? Would he wound Donald Trump or kill
Donald Trump? What would he think he was doing? What
was what was his mission? And who put him up

(01:27:02):
to it? I refuse to believe that this guy acting
like a dummy was that guy. I think somebody put
him up to do this. I think he is a
guy who's pretending to be a weirdo in large measure,
and I think he's doing a number of different things

(01:27:24):
that's been happening. Now here is a story that would
have otherwise gone under the wire. But listen to this.
This is from Politico. You guys remember Peter Struck. Do
you remember Peter Struck. Peter Struck going back to the

(01:27:45):
original sin that was committed by komy at Hall. Peter Struck,
the FBI agent who, as Politico puts it, sent anti
Trump texts loses First Amendment case over his firing. Remember

(01:28:05):
when he was scheming with lovely Lisa and they were saying, oh,
is he going to get elected? No? No, he's not
going to get elected because I'm going to stop him.
Remember that was the Struck in Page situation. A federal
judge dismissed a long running lawsuit from Struck, who was
fired from the FBI during Trump's first term. Former FBI

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agent Peter Struck has lost a running lawsuit claiming that
he was illegally fired during Donald Trump's first term after
sending text messages that criticized Trump. That is a lie
by Politico. He was scheming to prevent the president from
becoming the president. That's what he was doing. Struck argued

(01:28:51):
in the lawsuit that the FBI bosses retaliated against him
in order to play Kate Trump, who was outraged over
texts that's truck exchanged while investigating ties between the twenty
sixteen Trump campaign and Russia. There was no collusion between
Trump and Russia, period, full stop. Now you want to

(01:29:12):
come around and you want to talk about other people
sharing information and doing things like that. Trump didn't do that.
He didn't need to do that, My goodness. He was
taken on. Hillary Clinton, a very unpopular politician, not as
unpopular as Kamala Harris, but pretty close to unpopular as
Kamala Harris. In a ruling on Tuesday, US District Judge

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Amy Berman Jackson said that after several years gathering evidence
and testimony from those involved in the twenty eighteen decision
to terminate the veteran counterintelligence agent, Struck's lawyers had failed
to show that his dismissal violated his First Amendment rights. Jackson, Oh,

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by the way, just so you know, US District Judge
Amy Berman Jackson isn't a pointee by Barack Hussein Obama,
so you can kind of know that this is sort
of kind of a thing that is happening, that is

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out in the open. Jackson, an appointee of the Obama administration,
stressed that she was not ruling on whether Struck's firing
was the appropriate sanction for his conduct, only that the
voluminous evidence assembled over years of litigation, including a deposition

(01:30:47):
of Trump himself, had not proven Struck's rights were violated. Huh,
it's kind of interesting. I think that would maybe cross
the television. No, No, tonight, Tonight is the night that

(01:31:08):
all of you have waited for. Tonight is the night
for Jimmy Fest. Jimmy Fest. Is that what it's gonna
be called Is it gonna be Jimmy Fest. I don't know.
I'm not watching. I'm already in bed by that time,
because I believe you go to bed early, you get

(01:31:31):
up early, you get a jump on the day. My
name's Brett Whitterbule. It's been a pleasure being with you
here today. I thank you, I thank Isaac. I think Lonnie,
I think Anna and Pam will do it again tomorrow,
starting at three. News Talk eleven, ten, nine, nine to
three W two