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October 29, 2025 • 95 mins

Tune in here to this Wednesday's edition of the Brett Winterble Show! 

Brett kicks off the program by talking about the feeling of “winning” and the sense of momentum that he and his listeners share, despite what he describes as negativity from the media and pundits. From there, he transitions into a deeper reflection inspired by Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World, exploring themes of comfort, boredom, and purpose in modern life. Brett argues that society has grown too addicted to instant pleasure—through streaming, scrolling, and constant distraction—and lost touch with meaning and growth. He emphasizes that boredom and discomfort are not enemies, but essential catalysts for creativity, resilience, and self-discovery.

We’re joined by Terry Donovan from Charlotte to talk about her campaign for mayor and her focus on public safety and civic engagement. Donovan, a Republican candidate, tells host Brett Winterble that she entered the race because she could no longer sit back and watch as crime and division grew in the city. She stresses that Charlotte faces a serious public safety crisis, with CMPD understaffed and residents increasingly fearful. Donovan calls for a change in leadership and attitude at City Council, arguing that acknowledging the problem is the first step toward fixing it. She emphasizes unity, saying that safety is not a partisan issue—it’s something everyone deserves regardless of background or neighborhood. Donovan also encourages citizens to get involved, attend council meetings, and hold leaders accountable. Her campaign message is clear: “We’ve got to take our city back.

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Are you feeling the winning? Are you feeling all of
the winning that is happening, Yes, you are. You know it,
you sense it, you feel it, you smell it. It
just we feel like we are on the right track.
I know that the media is trying to dismay you.
I know that the pundits are trying to tell you

(00:37):
that things are not great. Things are going swimmingly. My
name is Brett Whitterble. If you're not familiar with the program,
I am the host of the program seven oh four
five seven zero eleven ten, And you can reach out
on the phones or you can reach out to the
WBT text line. I recommend you being very careful as
you're driving drizzly out there. We don't want to have

(00:58):
any accidents. But if you want to reach out, you
can reach out on the text line. Driven by Liberty
Buick GMC. It is great to be with you Tonight.
We're gonna be doing the very very fun Octoberfest show
over at at the Barrel Arts, right over at Heist
Brewing and Barrel Arts. It's gonna be a blast, It's

(01:19):
gonna be awesome. We've got great people who are gonna
be coming by and spending time with us, You'll make
new friends and you'll never regret a conversation with Brett.
There's two of us, and so it's gonna be a
lot of fun and we're looking forward to it. It's
gonna be really great. Now with that in mind, I
feel like we need to kind of reset the bar
a little bit here, not the bar which you drink,

(01:41):
but the bar which we happen to be in cohoots with.
We live in an age of dopamine on demand, a
world where pleasure is no longer earned. It's streamed, it's scrolled,
it's swallow and swiped. Aldus Huxley saw this coming in

(02:04):
Brave New World. He warned of a society so saturated
with comfort and distraction that it lost its grip on
meaning today we must ask have we become too comfortable,
too entertained, too numb? Well, all you have to do
is look at what's going on with Mandami and AOC

(02:28):
and all the clowns that are lining up thinking that
they're going to be next man up, next woman up,
next whatever up. Let me take you into Huxley's dystopia,
not with fear, but with clarity. In his world, people
are conditioned to love their servitude. They are pacified by
a drug called soma. Happens to be a song by

(02:54):
a very famous band with that song Soma, do you
know who it is? Do you know who it is?

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Do you know who it is?

Speaker 1 (03:03):
I'll tell you at the end. A chemical escape from
pain and boredom and thought. Most men and women, Huxley wrote,
will grow up to love their servitude and will never
dream of a revolution. Not ever, that's not fiction anymore.
It is a mirror. We've built a culture that treats

(03:25):
boredom as a bug, not a feature. But boredom is
not the enemy. It's the birthplace of creativity, resilience, and
of course, self discovery. Huxley once said, your true traveler
finds boredom rather agreeable than painful. It's the symbol of

(03:48):
his liberty, his excessive freedom. What he meant in this
is boredom is a signal, not a sickness. It tells
us that we are free to choose, to create, to struggle,
and struggle we must, because pleasure alone cannot sustain a life.

(04:10):
There is no greater mistake, Huxley warned, than to suppose
that a vicious life is a life of uninterrupted pleasure.
It is a life almost as wearisome and painful as
Christians in the Pilgrim Progress. Even vice demands effort, even

(04:36):
indulgence becomes exhausting. So why must we work? Because work
is the antidote to entropy. It's how we shape the
world and ourselves. In Brave New World, the director of
Hatcheries says, all conditioning aims at that making people like

(04:58):
their unescapable so destiny. But we're not products of conditioning.
We're agents of change. Work gives us dignity, direction, and
the chance to defy the scripts written for us. Why
must we deal with boredom? Because boredom is the crucible

(05:18):
of growth. It forces us to confront the void, to
wrestle with silence, to invent meaning. Huxley saw that most
human beings have an almost infinite capacity for taking things
for granted. Boredom breaks that spell. It makes us grateful,

(05:39):
it makes us curious. And why must we resist the
lore of constant pleasure? Because pleasure, when pursued without purpose,
becomes a prison. Huxley wrote, Oh, how desperately bored in
spite of their grim determination to have a good time?
The majority of pleasure seekers really are. That's the paradox.

(06:02):
The more we chase pleasure, the less we feel it.
So let us reclaim discomfort. Let's feel a little uncomfortable.
Let's embrace the boredom. Let us work not for survival,
but let us work for significance. The greats in the

(06:25):
entire history of human achievement are those people who did
not just sell out to pleasure. Let me leave you
with this final provocation from Huxley. But I don't want comfort.

(06:48):
I want god, I want poetry. I want real danger,
I want real freedom, I want goodness. I want sin
because it is the only way that you can figure
out exactly where you are on the barometer. It's not

(07:14):
a rejection of joy, it's not a rejection of religion.
It's not a rejection of any of it. It's a
demand for depth. Our culture today is so surface. Oh yeah,
I binge watched Oh yeah, I just ordered food. Oh yeah,
I don't have a thing in the house to eat.

(07:34):
I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm gonna
have to order something up here. I don't know what
I want to do. It's just so wonderful. I'm smoking
weed I'm just getting high. I'm just laying down. I'm
sleeping twelve hours a day. All this kind of stuff,
the nicks and the pains are the things that give
us the strength that we need. We have to take
not for granted, but we have to take up the challenge,

(07:58):
up the challenge because if you don't do that, if
you don't do any of that, what are you measuring
your life by? And as for this song that I
alluded to, there is a song by Smashing Pumpkins from
twenty eleven. It's an awesome song and it's called Somam

(08:23):
Soma and it encapsulates a lot of what we think about.
But in this country that strives everlasting, we must take
up the challenge, feel the pain so we can realize

(08:45):
the importance of the ecstasy. The Federal Reserve has cut
the interest rates by point two five percent. What a
clown show? Point two five percent? I mean, give me

(09:09):
a break. Jerome Palin needs to be fired immediately and
sent directly to Shujinpin for what he wants to do.
He can do whatever he wants. My gosh, that's just pathetic.
That is pathetic. They don't want to help you out
I'm just telling you. I know it's hard to believe it,
but these people do not want to help you out,
and it's unfortunate in a big, big, big big way.
All right. Yes, I know that's part of the pain. Yes,

(09:34):
that's part of the pain that I was just talking about.
You are right, Okay, I'll take it that one. That's
a fair point. So let me let me take you
to a person that is not my cup of tea,
not my cup of tea at all, all right, And
that would be AOC. AOC. She's running around now telling

(09:56):
people that it's not crazy to support Mundami. Everybody's saying
that we're crazy for trying to do things with Mundami.
This is this is not this is not right. AOC
rallies for Mundami. They want us to think we are crazy.
We are the sane ones, she said. Representative of Alexandria A.

(10:22):
Kazio Cortes aka all out crazy Democrat New York, joined
New York City mayoral nominee Zorhan Mundami at a weekend
rally in Queens, evoking the city's immigrant roots and calling
on supporters to reject the claims that their movement is

(10:45):
crazy or outlandish. Oh no, I don't think it's crazy.
I think it's socialism. I don't think it's outlandish. I
think it's exactly what we've seen happen in so many countries.
All we have to do is just put them all
on a flight and go take a look. Look at
how great it is in Cuba. Acasio Cortez, a longtime
ally of Mandami, took to the stage to rally voters

(11:08):
ahead of next month's general election, framing the New York
City diversity and resilience as a foundation for the progressive
movements platform. Sure, sure, it's very easy to do this.
All the elites at the top make the money, and
all the other people who are not making the money, well,
they just get left behind. She claims this in the speech. Right,

(11:31):
this city was built on the Irish escaping famine, Italians
fleeing fascism, Jews escaping the Holocaust, Black Americans fleeing club slavery,
and Jim Crow. So let me understand this that it
was only about like eighteen forty two that people were

(11:51):
coming to the United States. She does not have any
idea what she's talking about. I gave you the facts
yesterday when I told you that as early as sixteen
you had Muslims in the United States of America in
of course New York. She goes to Italians fleeing fascism.

(12:12):
That was like nineteen thirty eight. What is wrong with
you? You didn't get a good education. In fact, I know
you went to Boston University. You didn't get a good
education over at Boston University. And I can see it.
Jews escaping the Holocaust. By the way, the Democratic president
back in the day stopped the Jews from escaping to

(12:35):
the United States. They were not being welcomed by FDR.
And by the way, you know who else wasn't welcomed
even though they were born on American soil, and that
was the interned Japanese. So AOC's got a lot of
splaining to do. I just don't buy what she says.

(12:55):
I think she is a grade A gr ada. I
think she is a Grade A nonsense slinger. She's slinging nonsense.
She's trying to give you things that are not necessarily true.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
But that's the point.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I'm starting to have a feeling, and I'm starting to
believe Mandamie's gonna have something pop up. Yesterday was a
pretty bad one when he said that when you have
the NYPD on your neck, the Jews are lacing the boots.
That's an that's a double slander. That's a slander of

(13:35):
the Jews, and that's a slander of the NYPD. A
proud force for good. Not perfect, nobody is. But they
ran into the towers while little myth aosc was at
Boston University slinging the drinks. Things are so good, Things

(14:01):
are so good. How do I know things are so good? Well?
The big stupid theory that's been floating around for a
number of days is this idea that Donald Trump's going
to try to run for a third term. Donald Trump
addressed the third term prospects. He said, it's pretty clear
I'm not allowed to run. Jake Tapper fell down and

(14:26):
screamed into his cry pillow because they figured they could
use that to try to be another impeachable offense. It's
a very interesting thing. I have the best numbers for
any president in many years, Trump told reporters aboard Air
Force One while flying to South Korea via AFP, and
I would say that if you read it, it's pretty

(14:46):
clear I'm not allowed to run. It's too bad. Trump added,
citing the constitutionality reality. He went on to say that
his Republican Party has great options for the the next
presidential election in Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Vice
President JD. Vance, who traveled with them. By the way,

(15:11):
what do we have over on the Democrat side? You
got Gavin Any, Twosome Newsom, and you've got Ribs. I
think look, I think a Newsome Ribs ticket would be fantastic.
I think it would be mark just magical. Okay, okay,

(15:32):
maybe that's not the ticket that you want. I'll give
you a better ticket. How about this? Are you ready?
Gavin Newsom? Gavin Newsom AOC no, yes, no, she's old enough.
They grow up so fast, don't they last last few months?

(15:53):
They suddenly bloom with their blooming looney ideas. All right,
you don't like her, you don't like her. How about Crockett?
How about we get how about we get Crockett at
the top of the ticket and Ribs on the bottom
of the ticket.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
No, okay, I'm getting people this.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
They're telling me I can't put these I can't put
these things together. Why not? That would be That would
be a murderer's row? Is what that would be. They
would be incredible, it would be amazing, it would be
it would just be fantastic, a true billionaire in Ribs.
And then Crockett. Crockett's got to be on the top

(16:31):
of the ticket. I'm going Crockett AOC. You tell me
what you think would be your fantasy twenty twenty eight ticket.
I have more than welcome to do it, and I
hope you do, because this is what we got to
look forward to. Look, don't laugh at me. I'm I'm
pizza giver. I'm a forecaster, pizza giver. I forecast I

(16:56):
see things, I see the the past, ball coming, and
I'm ducking a lot of people. Don't duck a lot
of people just stand there and go hit by a pitch.
You know, I'll tell you something right now. If you
don't like me, if you don't like what I'm saying,

(17:20):
you know what you are. You're a hit by a pitch.
It's the Brett Winterable Show. Great to be with you.

(17:41):
Let's jump out and uh say hello to Jim.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Jim.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
I was about to put a flair gun up. We
certainly want to uh catch up with you there, buddy.
What's going on? What's on your mind today, Jim in
San Diego.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, how are you?

Speaker 1 (17:55):
I'm awesome?

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah, yeah, So I just wanted to call in. I
know it's been a little while.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
Yeah, a little bit busy, Yes, a lot of a
lot of things on my plate. But I want to
make my nomination for the number one caller.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
If I may, my gosh, okay, go ahead, who is it?
I can only wait? But make sure you got the
triple You got the triple trip line ready to go,
because you know we may this could go anywhere. Okay,
who you got? Who you got?

Speaker 3 (18:27):
No, this is sincere, absolutely sincere, and I'm sure you
probably feel the same way. But literally, the number one
caller has to be Terry because he was number one.
He called in when you arrived there first, and he
gave us some of the greatest segments of this of
the show.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, big time. He's he's definitely, he's definitely in the
he's in the mix. Look, I am going to here's
what I'll do. By Easter. I will have the official
I will have the official rankings. Okay, and and and
so that's what we'll have to do. And let me
ask you a quick question here. Gavin Newsom Is he
for real or is he for fake?

Speaker 3 (19:09):
He's a weasel boy.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
He's a weasel boy.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
To do anything, anything to keep him not only in power, yep,
but popular. He can't stand rejection.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
He can't.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Number one, that lady came up and confronted him at
the Palistapes fire, and he had to try to weasel
out of giving an answer. It was the worst day
of the life, his life. He spent three days in
the closet and fetal position because he blew it fro Ben. Also,
he spent five days on the phone with his hand
trying to figure out what to do, how to.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
Get hold on hold on of it.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
He ate wonderbread, He ate slabs of wonderbread, and he
was down for the struggle. Jim, why would you dismiss man,
a man with that kind of hairdoo?

Speaker 3 (19:54):
I don't know. Did he get these the loads of
wonder bent from the Baileys, the friends of Chuck Schumer.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
I don't know, Okay, Jim, very well, well, said my friend.
I appreciate that. Thank you very much, and enjoy the
rest of your day. All right, there you go. It's
it's you know, it's you sit here and you go,
uh well, what's what's the other option? Like, what is
the other option?

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Really?

Speaker 1 (20:19):
When you think about this, I have a clip I'm
going to play in the next hour at the beginning
of the next hour. Actually, we now have you know,
food supplies running low, all this kind of stuff, and
and yet and yet Ribs, Ribs is burning all this
money for folks who are not in the country legally.

(20:41):
You know who's here legally. I'm so happy to have
him the coach, Matt Doherty. How are you, coach, Thanks
for joining us.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
I'm good, I'm good. Yeah, I'm doing time. Thanks, thanks
for having me in the show.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
No, it's great to have you here. By the way,
where do people go to get coached by the coach?

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (20:56):
Yeah, yeah, I'm an executive coach. I do keynote talks workshops.
You can go to my website which is new and
improved Dartycoaching dot com. That's d O H E R
t y dot com. Uh yeah, check it out. It's
a it's a nice refresh, it's well done and would
love your your input.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
I definitely I'll input you, no problem there, absolutely put
me so. Let me ask you a question about this, uh,
this government, this government seems to not be taking things seriously.
If you're over on the Democratic side of the of
the ticket. Uh, these are folks who do not want
to reopen the government despite the fact that now we're
getting into issues with traffic, air traffic controllers, people who

(21:38):
are going to be losing their their food through the
snap projects, all this sort of stuff. What is the
endgame here, coach? What are you thinking?

Speaker 5 (21:47):
Well, I think it is going to be who blinks first.
And my gut is I don't think Trump blinks. You know,
I think this is just a bad look. As much
as the left is trying to spin it and make
it look bad, on the right, they have the power
to just make the agreement that they don't want to

(22:12):
give into certain things that will lead down a slippery slope.
I think if you give into it now. So I
think that basically the left is shutting down the government
and they'll they're going to get enough pushback from their
constituents that they are going to have to kind of

(22:34):
meet me, meet at least in the middle.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
All Right, With that in mind, I'm going to take
you to the Northeast. I know it's not someplace you
may want to go, right this minute. But I'm going
to send you to the Northeast and I'm going to
ask you, as a long, long term New york Er,
somebody who understands the blood of the streets there and
how everything is supposed to run properly, and you've seen

(23:00):
the bad stuff. Are you worried about Mandami picking up
a win here? Do you think Cuomo can close it
courteously clearly doesn't want to, doesn't want to be about it.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
You know, it's hard, It's hard for me to push
a support Cuomo, but it just tells you where we
are in state of politics in New York when he's
someone that you want to win in an election. Because
Mendami is I mean, let's let's call it what it is, socialists, communists,

(23:33):
and it doesn't work, And and I think a couple
of things. People say, well, why so many people voting
for them? So I think young people have been doctor NATed,
especially in cities like New York, that socialistic ideals are good.
Giving free stuff is good. And then you have a

(23:56):
lot of people moving into our country that are really
wreaking havoc and bringing their politics, their their beliefs into
our country that can really eat at the fabric of
what we know is America in terms of our rights,

(24:22):
our constitutional rights, and the way of our country and
whay it was founded, and you know, people working and
paying their fair share of taxes. But the free stuff.
Look at London, uh, look look at look at North Korea,
look look at you know it's it's free. They pray

(24:46):
on the constituents to vote them in, and then when
they vote them in, those people become their slaves. And
I think that studying history, like through you and being
on your show, I've studied more history and they did
in college, you know, And I've read these books about
communism and Marxism in North Korea, and it really opened

(25:11):
my eyes to why are people and like we talked
about George Soros, power and control, power and control, power
and control. They want power and control and they use
people to get it, and then once they've got it,
those people are treated poorly. It doesn't work. They say,

(25:32):
we free stuff like free free house fare, free housing.
It's being paid for through Texas and so people are
going to exit New York quicker than they have in
ree's past. And people will say, oh, that's okay, But
then all of a sudden, you're going to have chaos

(25:54):
and crime, and the only people riding the buses and
the trains are going to be people that or you know,
really poor and or criminals.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
It really is like the seventies all over again. And
and when you think about this, I mean, all Mundami
needs to do is stand stay right in front of
port authority and and do three card monte or or
do the shell game that they used to play. And
then somebody, somebody whistles and the cops come running, and
then they disappear with the money. I mean, this, this,

(26:26):
this is what this is. I mean, let's be let's
be honest.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
It's really sad. He's a sharp guy. I mean he's
he's you know, when you hear him talk, he's good.
He's good in front of media, he's you know, he's
a salesman. I just think that the people fall for

(26:50):
it and free stuff. Man, it doesn't work that way.
Free stuff, it does not work that way. Somebody will
be paying for it, all right, but he will pay
for it.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
That's right, that's right, all right? Coach? Where again, where
do folks reach out to get coached by you?

Speaker 5 (27:05):
Yeah? Dartie coaching dot Com that's d O H E
R T Y Coaching dot com. And I'd like to add, yes,
I spoke at the Belmont Sports Hall of Fame last night,
awesome in Belmont, North Carolina. And if I had five
people come up to me and say that they enjoy
hearing me on the Brett Winnable Show on WBT, I

(27:27):
had fifty's. And there are a lot of fans. There
are a lot of Brett Winnable fans in Belmont and
in Gastonia. And keep up the good work, Brett.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Oh no, you as well. Look, I wouldn't be anywhere
without you, my friend.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
And well, and now I'm glad you brought that up,
you know, since we're talking about now I'm kidding.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yeah, let me can I just say one last thing.
You're a great American and I appreciate you. Thank you, coach.
I bless you you you you as well. Absolutely, that's
the coach. Matt Nor News Talk eleven three WVT. I'm

(28:18):
so tempted. I'm so tempted to do this story. I'm
so tempting. You know what, I'm gonna do it. I
don't care. I'm gonna do this story. This is this
is this is plain speaking people. Okay, I'm gonna let
you hear some plain speaking people. Uh, let me go
with I'm gonna go with number thirty eight. John Kennedy

(28:42):
talking to Hannity last night. Listen to what he says
about the state of our politics. Cut thirty eight, please go.
I have accused.

Speaker 6 (28:51):
The president President Trump of everything except abandoning his children
to wolves. They repeatedly, they daily call him a racist
and a Nazi. The Democrats are angry. They're angry for
two reasons. They're angry because President Trump won the election.

(29:14):
The American people spoke. My Democratic colleagues need to just
drink a big old glass of get over it and
let's move on.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
They're mad number two.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
They're mad that the American people are mad about the shutdown.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
It was so needless.

Speaker 6 (29:32):
I voted thirteen times to open government back up. The
Democrats have voted thirteen times to keep it shut down.
They don't want to pay food stamps, they don't want
to pay the military. They want to use us as
leverage to gain more more money to spend. Senator Schumer,
my colleague, eagerly greedily wanted to become the face of

(29:57):
the shutdown.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
I was looking.

Speaker 6 (30:00):
We had a poll today of what American people think
of Senator Schumer. It was an economist you gov poll,
which is very left of center the American people. In
the American people's opinion, Senator Schumer is a He's a
wit match in a dark cave. He polls right up
there with clubbing Babyski seals. He's got a thirty percent

(30:25):
approval rating, a sixty percent disapproval rating, and ten percent
of folks poles just didn't want to pause their video
games to answer.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
So think about this. This is one man holding the
entirety of the government hostage. It's it's not anybody else
but Chuck Schumer doing this. Hakeem Jefferies has no power.
Like if Mike Johnson comes in and says we're going
to reopen the House of Representatives, Keim Jeffries has no

(31:02):
hand there at all. He has to go along for
the ride. Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer is the guy who
is stopping forty five million people from getting snap benefits.
Why would Chuck Schumer want to harm those people. I'll
tell you why, because Chuck Schumer, and I'm dead serious

(31:26):
when I say this, Chuck Schumer knows it's over. He
knows it's over. I mean, I could quote Rambo, but
you all can imagine that in your mind's eye, because Chuck,
Chuck Schumer would be saying, nothing is over. No, it's over, Chuck.
You're done, You're cooked, You're finished, it's over. Why don't

(31:48):
you just go back to New York City, Go practice law,
Go give speeches that four people listen to, not poor people,
four people will listen to. And that's it, man, that
is it. I think that I really believe that this
may be an opportunity for a change in this system.

(32:10):
And I'll tell you right now, this is a guy.
This is a guy who is a vindictive, angry person.
And I'm gonna tell you something right now, that guy
Chuck Schumer. If Joe Biden had never been elected to
the presidency, Chuck Schumer would never have advanced guaranteed you

(32:33):
would had somebody else. News Talk eleven ten, not A
nine three WBT, Brettwitterer, Bull Show, Good to be with

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you seven oh four five seven zero eleven ten. It's
a pleasure to be with you here today. There is
an emerging what I think is going to be a
scandal it's not happening quite yet. But let me let
you hear a piece of sound that is particularly galling. Okay,

(33:15):
this is out of Illinois. So you know that Pritzker
is the governor of Illinois. You know that Brandon Johnson
is a is the mayor of Chicago. The Republicans uncount
the Republicans un unwound a scheme that is going on

(33:37):
in Illinois that is clearly illegal. It is clearly illegal,
and I think once the government opens back up this
is this should be an investigation about this. So this
is cut number thirty one. Illinois is bankrupting healthcare in
their state and you'll never guess who it's benefiting Cup

(34:03):
thirty one.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
Sure.

Speaker 7 (34:04):
Well, last year, and we raised this concern. Last year,
the Democratic majority and the governor put into place a
law that said we were going to provide free healthcare
for undocumented citizens from age forty two on up, that
we're going to provide them free healthcare. At the time,
they said they anticipated about ten thousand residents would take

(34:28):
advantage of this program. We raised the concern, we said
that was going to be a problem. By the beginning
of this year, the state said, well, we're wrong. That
number is about fifty two thousand. Now this week the
state came out and said we're wrong again. That number
is now one hundred and twenty thousand. Undocumented are going

(34:52):
to be receiving free healthcare at a cost of over
one billion dollars. That's money that's not in the budget.
That's going to create a significant problem. And so here
in Illinois we are now adding thousands a month as
you have unhealthy and sick undocumented citizens from around the country,

(35:17):
from frankly, around the world that are coming to Illinois
because the fact we're the only state that covers these
individuals for total healthcare, and so this is something that
is really creating a significant problem for our budget.

Speaker 8 (35:33):
Let's talk a little bit more about kind of the
coverage that they are receiving. It's my understanding that the
federal government provides no matching dollars for this program, that
it's fully Illinois taxpayer funded. What about the healthcare that
they're receiving. It's also understanding that it's probably even better
than people on Medicaid. Are citizens on medicaid who really
need coverages? Can you kind of talk about that.

Speaker 7 (35:56):
This is an important issue as well, and another frustrating thing.
Resident opens the borders up, but then he says, but
we're not going to pay for any of the healthcare.
This is one hundred percent paid for by state tax payers.
The program of healthcare that they get is actually better
than those of our own residents that are on Medicaid.

(36:17):
So our low income, struggling families in Illinois that are
on Medicaid, they do not get as good as services
as these non citizens are getting that are coming into Illinois.
So it's costing us significantly more than it costs our
own residents. And in addition to the over one billion

(36:41):
dollar cost of health care, we're also providing free daycare
for their children. We're including free housing, of food subsidies,
cash subsidies. So the total costs program is in the
billions of dollars, and that means key programs for our
developmentally disabled, for our seniors. These people are now being

(37:06):
crowded out. Our own citizens programs are not getting the
funding they need because now we are becoming the healthcare
provider for every sick individual in the world that can
come to Illinois. If this doesn't stop, I can guarantee
you this does not end well for Illinois.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
And you and I both know with certitude that people
are going to continue to move into Illinois. And they
know that they have a person who is in the
governor's mansion, a very wealthy person in the governor's mansion,
who all he has to do is wait out the
Trump administration. All he has to do is that he

(37:47):
doesn't have to do anything. He just says, oh, well,
you know what a president whoever's next. Yeah, we have
a crisis here, and if you don't help us, we're
going to be very angry. We're going to riot, We're
going to do this, We're gonna do that. This is
the problem that we're dealing with. And unfortunately, and unfortunately,

(38:08):
what what can you do? Because you know, they're gonna
try to remit. They're gonna get money once the government's
back open, They're gonna get money, and they're gonna use
the money to backfill all the stuff that's.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Been going on here.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Think about veterans, think about people who are in definite
need that were born or naturalized as American citizens. What
is what is with these leftist wackos. It's like they're
purposely attempting to break the entirety of the government and

(38:46):
to hand it after it's broken. Uh to to the Mandamis,
to the ilhan Omars, to the AOC's uh to the
folks the most radical elements that you could possibly in
any way, shape or form ever coming and think about.
Now there's a bright side here. Okay, this is cut
number thirty seven Harry Enton, who is a tremendous polster.

(39:13):
He broke it down earlier today. This is cut thirty
seven Harry Enton on why it is the d'ser still
getting dragged go It hasn't.

Speaker 9 (39:21):
If anything, it's been helped a little bit. Take a
look here the shift to net popularity versus pre shutdown
among the g When we're looking at the Republican Party overall,
that brand actually up two points. That's within the margin vera.
But clearly it hasn't dropped. Come over this side of
the screen. Look at the net approval ratings for Republicans
in Congress.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
It's actually up five.

Speaker 9 (39:39):
Points since pre shutdown.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
So what we're seeing here is.

Speaker 9 (39:42):
The Republican brand in Congress has actually improved somewhat compared
to where we were pre shutdown, despite the fact the
Republicans control. And that's the math that John Thune and
Mike Johnson are looking at is hey, why should we
give an electorally speaking when our brand has actually improved
a little bit now we say their position is getting
better with whom, Yeah, okay, with whom? So I think

(40:02):
it's two groups that it's so important to keep them
an eye out on, all right, changing the Republican Congresses
net approval rating versus pre shutdown. It's rallying the base,
for sure. Look at this, the net approval rating up
twelve points versus pre shutdown. But it's not just with
the base. It's also with the middle of the electorate.
Look at this among independents it's up eight points as well.
So we've got a situation here where Republicans with this

(40:23):
shutdown are actually rallying their base. But it's also something
that's not hurting them with the folks in the middle
of anything. It's helping them with folks in the middle.
And this is the type of math that if you're
Republicans you like to see, right, because something could rally
the base but alienate those in the middle, or something
could rally those in the middle but alienate the base.
But the truth is we're not seeing that. What we're
seeing is the Republican brand has actually gotten better among independents,

(40:45):
and it's also gotten better among Republicans as well, that
Republican brand when it comes to those in Congress. So again,
what's what's the electoral reason that Republicans were given at
this point?

Speaker 1 (40:54):
I'll tell you straight ahead. I can't wait. I'm sorry,
I can't I can't wait. I'm telling you right now.
Guarantee it. It's guaranteed that this is all going to

(41:16):
work out just fine. By the way, if you're coming
out to us with the with the incredible news and
Bruce tonight, please drive carefully and we certainly want to
see you there. Come by, say hello, say hey, what's up,
how's it going, all that sort of good stuff like that.
And you know, we got we got a bunch of
really good people who are spending time with us. It's

(41:39):
going to be really a whole lot of fun. And
we'll give you an after action report tomorrow as well.
But if you are coming over, come over and say hello,
Come over and say hello and say hey, how you doing. Okay,
I don't know if you guys have heard about this thing.
Some people have not heard about this thing. So I
want to explain it. I had to explain to I

(42:01):
there's this there's this uh phenomenon up in space right
now where there's a thing that's moving, it's it's transitting.
Today happens to be a very important day. Today is
a very important day because this is this is when
the three I Atlas, his goal is behind the Sun

(42:23):
right now, and people don't know what's going to emerge
on the back end of this. Could it be a
date that you want to go out with or could
it be a serial killer? Is the question? So what
do you say? We defer to a VI Lobe. Avi
Lobe is the expert on this, and he was having

(42:44):
a nice conversation with people from Chicago, and let's see
what he's expecting in the coming day days.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Is there going to be another day?

Speaker 10 (42:57):
God Atlas is flying behind it perhaps for a reason,
you know, if it's a technological object, that's the best
time for it to do a maneuver when it's closest
to the Sun, to take advantage of the Sun's gravity.

Speaker 11 (43:12):
That's what we do with our own spacecraft. And so
the question is real it appear on a different path
after passing close to the Sun. And of course, if
that happens, you know, the stock market may crash because
it would mean that, you know, we have some risk involved. However,
if it continues along its original path, you know, it

(43:34):
could still be that it releases some probes that go
to the various planets and maneuver. So we should keep
our eyes on this ball of light to figure out
whether it's a natural or technological. Often, you know, in science,
we don't face a situation where what we discover has
implications to our daily life. And this is a very

(43:58):
unusual case where you know, even if the risk is small,
if you say it's most naturally most likely a rock,
you know, it could have huge consequences if it's not
a rock. So therefore we have to discuss that as
a possible you know, a black swan event that we

(44:20):
we haven't anticipated.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
What does that mean like a black Swan event? Also,
I mean, there's so many things that you were just
mentioned that I guess I have questioned. Allow one is
the stock market, because I think the average viewer maybe
isn't as well versed in this topic. How would it
affect the stock market? Something in outer space?

Speaker 11 (44:39):
Right, so we all know about the dinosaurs that were
killed by a giant rock the size of Manhattan Island
sixty six million years ago, and then you know that
was unexpected. The dinosaurs felt very proud of themselves dominating Earth,
but they didn't look up and this rock killed them.

(44:59):
Now that it's a risk for humanity as well, and
we think that we can prevent such a damage by
monitoring rocks that may come close to Earth. But that
assumes that these are rocks that we can forecast how
they will behave Just imagine alien technology, some spacecraft that
can maneuver in ways that we cannot anticipate. It's much

(45:21):
more complicated, and of course if we ever encounter that,
you know, it's a blind date of interstellar proportions. You
don't know who is on the other side. Of course,
you're hoping that it's a friendly visitor, but it could
be a serial killer. So you know, there will be
a sense of urgency and uncertainty. Just like you see

(45:42):
a visitor to your backyard, and the concern is the
visitor will show up in your front door, you know,
so you have to worry about what to do in
a short time, and you know that would involve of course,
policymakers and politicians. But as a scientist, the first thing
that I can alert to is to at least consider
the possibility that we might see a visitor from interstellar

(46:04):
space that could be potentially, you know, associated with alien technology.
That so that we monitor those things and collect as
much evidence, you know, because in a blind date. My
advice to anyone that goes on a blind date is
first to observe the other side as much as you
can before you have an opinion.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Okay, so there you go. That's that's that's mister Lowe leab.
I think it's I'll be leap and so what what
Let me ask you this. Let's say it's a thing.
It's not just a rock, it's a thing. There's a
thing that's coming. Okay, would there be I'm serious if

(46:47):
you want to reach out to me seven h four
five seven zero eleven ten guaranteed we are doing the
incredible work that people don't want to do in this program.
Do you think this thing would fall apart along party lines?
Would Democrats welcome the the illegal space aliens? Would the

(47:14):
Republicans with the Conservatives sit back and say, listen, listen,
we gotta send him back we can't have him here.
Or would it be the other way around? Would it
be would it be the Republicans would be saying, yes,
we need to build bridges. We're about peace, We're not
about warfare anymore, none of that. And the Democrats are like, no, no,

(47:34):
we have got to blast this thing. Get Joe Biden
on the roof and let him. Let him do two pumps. Remember,
and they always said to him, you just see, all
you gotta do is get up on the roof and
do two pumps on the roof. And everybody knows what
that means. It means that you don't come onto his
property there in dellywhere I mean, I'm just wondering about this.
Would this break along that line? Would you would you

(47:55):
expect that it would break along that line? I think
it would. I think MSN would be very pro uh
Space Alien, and I think uh Fox News would be No, No,
we're gonna sit this one out. We're staying out of this.
We don't want to be part of the war faction
any longer. And then you're gonna have people like Mandami,

(48:17):
who is gonna go and probably try to, you know,
create a connection with these folks that are coming in
and coming into our country, and he's probably going to
offer them free, free buildings, uh, free food, uh, free everything,
because that's what the socialists do. And as long as
these these space raptors you know, or are are flying

(48:40):
around and they can they can fill out a ballot,
you know, this is this is a very good possibility.
Gavin Newsom. By the way, Gavin Newsom, I think he
would be the first guy to take a knee in
front of the space alien thing. And I think you
would say, you know, it's incredible. I'd like to do

(49:00):
a Could I be on your podcast? Since Joe Rogan
won't let me be on his podcast? What am I?

Speaker 2 (49:06):
What am I gonna do?

Speaker 1 (49:08):
I need to find out. I want to talk. Can
you can you put me in touch with the people
above you? I desperately need this for twenty twenty eight.
Otherwise I'm gonna be I'm gonna be end up. I'm
gonna end up sitting someplace out in Greensboro. They're gonna
send me to Greensborough. They're gonna send me over to
They're gonna send me over to Rutherfordton. They're gonna send

(49:31):
me over to Ashville. They're gonna send me me booing.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
There's no booing.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
My name is Gavin Newsom. You will respect me, you
will respect the do, you will respect my hairline.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (49:46):
You're gonna be going over to Statesville, No, Fort Mille.
The hair has it? News Talk eleven ten ninety nine

(50:06):
three WBT. It's the Brett Winterval Show. It is great
to be with you. Seven oh four five seven zero
eleven ten. If you wish to opine, I'm happy to
welcome to the program somebody who is really trying to
save the city of Charlotte, and it's Terry Donovan joining us.
She's a candidate for mayor on the Republican side, and

(50:28):
it's great to have you here on the program. Terry,
thanks so much for spending time with us.

Speaker 12 (50:33):
Thanks Brett, thanks for having.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Me talk a little bit about why it is you
wanted to get into this race and what it is
that's driving you to push this Especially you've got very
successful business relations with Fortune five hundred companies, real estates,
veteran affairs, and you know obviously how to connect with people.

(50:57):
But can can you talk about why you're running for
this job?

Speaker 12 (51:01):
Well, you know, we've just got a situation in Charlotte
and actually all over our nation right now, where people
no longer want to be involved in politics. It's just
gotten so ugly and it's hard to even find people
who want to step up and be involved anymore. But
I mean, the fact of the matter is is I
just couldn't sit back and watch anymore. And you know,

(51:24):
they say, be the change that you want to see,
and I think that we all need to do that.
It's time for all of us, every single one of us,
to step outside of our comfort zone. Stop caring what
people think, don't be you know, we've been beaten into
submission almost just because people have seen how nasty politics

(51:44):
can be. And you know, we're so divided right now,
and you know, I just got to the point where
I can't sit back and watch what's happening in the
city any longer.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
When you look at the public safety issue here, and
I mean, my gosh, we we we could drown in
all of all of the crises that that have happened
as it relates to public safety. What what is your
your number one objective to to try to do to
get people feeling like they're going to be safer.

Speaker 12 (52:15):
Well, the number the as you know, the way Charlotte
is set up, We've got to have new city council members.
We just have to have an overall attitude adjustment. We've
got to acknowledge that we have an issue versus what
we have right now is we have city council members,
just about every single one of them, frankly, going out
there trying to convince us that we live in a

(52:39):
safe city and that we that it's our perception that
we really don't have an issue with crime and that
crime stats are down, when everybody knows that's not true, right,
And you know, regardless of what the stats say, our
murder rates uptown in the Uptown region, I think in

(53:01):
the in the Central Division CMPD the murder rates up
two hundred percent. So you know, we're just people are
becoming numb to these you know incidence. I mean, it's
every day we're having a new uh, you know death,

(53:21):
and it's just getting to the point where I think
that even you know, people that work in the media
are starting to feel that way because you can't get
over you can't get out to report on one thing
before there's another crisis that's happened. And I mean, how
can anybody look at the people of this city right
now and claim that we don't have an issue.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
I'm shocked. I mean, honestly, I'm shocked. I've lived in
a lot of places that have had horrible crime rates
things like that, and I just I wonder if the
idea behind it is, well, it's only in one particular air,
so everything else is going to be safe. That's a

(54:03):
that's a nonsensical sort of way to kind of deal
with this. I think you would want not you personally,
I'm saying, but I think the people would want a surge.
I think Donald Trump was offering a surge. They they
should bring and surge in to get this to get
this of a fight fixed.

Speaker 12 (54:21):
Well, we've just got to clean it up, and I
think any measures necessary to clean it up. I mean,
we don't want to live in a city with military
lining our streets. But at the same time, you know,
CMPD is understaffed, and we can point fingers all day
long about why and whose fault that is, but the
fact of the matter is it's our reality right now.
They're severely understaffed. All you have to do is talk

(54:44):
to police officers and they, you know, themselves will tell
you they can hardly keep up. They're they're overworked, they're
having a hard time recruiting officers and also retaining officers,
and that just absolutely has to change. We've got to
make that at our top priority in the city. And
if people don't feel safe, nothing else matters. And you know,

(55:07):
I said recently in a press conference, and it's just
so true, we all want the same thing. And it
doesn't matter what color your skin is. It doesn't matter
which neighborhood you live in, right, it doesn't matter if
you're a Republican or a Democrat. We all need to
feel safe in our neighborhoods. And until we have that,
I'm not okay, and I don't think the people of

(55:28):
Charlotte are okay. And and you know, we've got to
just stop with this finger pointing and all this divisive
you know, media, and just really acknowledge that we have
a serious, serious issue happening. I mean, it could be
you know, your child, it could be me, it could
be you, it could be it's happening too often, and

(55:52):
we've just got to address it. We've got to change
our attitude. This is not okay.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Yeah, Well, look, we had we had a you know,
we had a shooting, uh just down the block here
at by by Pinkies, okay, and that, and there are
tons of people that walk around, uh, you know, in
this area, and it was it was a very frightening reality.
Did have you ever had an interaction with the current mayor?

(56:17):
And what I mean by that is have you have
you proposed a debate against her or with her or
any of that sort of stuff, And has there been
any response?

Speaker 12 (56:27):
I have not. I mean personally, I would be fine
with that. I would be open to that. You know,
I know, I'm not going to sit here and bash her, certainly.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Sure.

Speaker 12 (56:38):
My problem with her, more than anything, is just the
lack of acknowledgment. I feel like anytime somebody goes on
and just repeats the same talking points over and over
about you know, it's your perception of the crime stats
are down, never takes any questions from the public. I know.
I did attend a meeting at the government center, I

(57:00):
don't know, it was maybe maybe six weeks ago, five
weeks ago, and it was you know, relating around violent
crime and public safety, and it was it was a
transit meeting actually, and she wouldn't take any questions at
the end, and she just said, look, you know, no
questions from the public. Even though there were members of

(57:20):
the public there wanting to ask questions, she just refused
all questions. And you know, we need to just have
more interaction. We need to have her coming out and
speaking to the public more. I would be happy to debate,
but I've already been told, I mean, sincerely doubt that's
going to.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Happen, especially when she doesn't want to answer questions, even
to the press, you know, or to the to the
folks who are assembled. Terry Donovan, where do people go
to help support you and uh and and learn more
about you?

Speaker 12 (57:51):
Well, my website is TIERRIFO Charlotte dot com. My name
does have an E on it, so it's te r
R I E four f O R Charlotte dot com.
That's my website, and I do have a lot about
my platform on there. Obviously, I said from day one,
and before Arena Zaruska was stabbed to death on the lightrail,

(58:14):
the main reason I decided to get involved and just
said enough is enough. I can't take it anymore. I'm
sick of hearing people complain and not doing anything about it.
Because people are so good at complaining, so good at complaining.
But I'll tell you what, when it comes to stepping
up and really getting involved, you know that that's just

(58:36):
got to change. We've got to have people willing to
get involved, to go to city council meeting. You know,
you hear bits and pieces of someone may hear this
interview and say, oh, he's you know, exaggerating or whatever.
I think we've been dealing with quite a bit of that.
People don't even believe it, But I say, you know,
go find out for yourself involved. Yes, it's got to

(58:57):
have more people involved.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Absolutely, to city council meetings.

Speaker 12 (59:01):
Yes, go to local you know, Republican meetings, Democrat meetings, however,
you need to get involved. But go see for yourself
and you'll see what we're dealing with in this city.
It's just dysfunction, dysfunction junction.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Yeah. Terry for Charlotte dot Com Terry T. E. R
R I E for Charlotte dot Com. Appreciate you being
on the program today and I look forward to catching
up with you again. Thank you for being.

Speaker 12 (59:28):
Here, Thank you so much, Thanks for having me. Everybody
needs to get out.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
And vote right now.

Speaker 12 (59:33):
Through Saturday, and then the election is on Tuesday, November fourth,
and I would really appreciate everybody's vote and tell everyone,
you know, we've got to take our city back.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Terry Donovan for mayor. That's the that's the line. We
appreciate you. Thanks so much, thank you so much. Yeah,
you got it.

Speaker 13 (59:50):
Absolutely, don't don't say don't say that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
The mayor isn't doing stuff. The mayor's doing stuff. The
mayor's doing stuff. Charlotte mayor promises city will act on
environmentalist push to amend yard rules. Wait, hold on, how
many people got shot during the weekend? Like it was
it four people that got shot during the week I
think it was like four people, four or five people

(01:00:23):
that got shot during the weekend. Charlotte Observer more front
yards could grow wild under a suggested amendment to the
Charlotte ordinances. Mayor vy Lyles told dozens of environmental advocates
at a city council meeting on Monday that the city
would act on a change the activists have been pushing

(01:00:47):
four months to exempt naturalistic gardens from vegetation height restrictions.
Build that height, build that vegetation. Under current city ordinances,
residents can face a penalty fee worth hundreds of dollars

(01:01:08):
if vegetation on their property grows taller than one foot.
Uh huh. The rule is intended to maintain sanitation and
aesthetic standards for city homes. What about the esthetic standards
of gunplay? I mean, that's that's a thing too. People

(01:01:30):
are shooting it up, people are shooting I mean, this
is this is Uh, you have to be realistic about
these sorts of things. I mean, let's be honest here.
Come on, that's a priority. We want to have plants
that are just higher than a foot. No, I don't
know if anybody's gonna get in trouble when they get

(01:01:51):
shot in the foot.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
No, I have no idea about that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
William, Welcome to the program. What's on your mind?

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Brent?

Speaker 14 (01:01:59):
Thank you, love your show, Thanks for having Terry Donovan.
I happen to listen to and watch that press conference
that she referenced, and I watched her for four minutes
deliver her message with no pelp, teleprompter, no notes, no papers,
just speaking from the heart and speaking the truth. And

(01:02:20):
then I watched viy Lyles deliver her they found no
corruption speech and for two minutes she's just shuffling her
papers that were apparently in the wrong order. Couldn't figure
it out. She's reading the notes that somebody else obviously wrote,
and then she mentions transparency, and within thirty seconds says,

(01:02:42):
I won't take any comments or questions from you today
and walks away. And I look at that and go,
what a contrast, What a difference. I've never seen a
case where the mayoral candidate is demonstrating more leadership than
the actual mayor who's been there for eight years.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
I mean, it just.

Speaker 14 (01:03:02):
Blows me away. And I wanted to thank you for
having her on.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
All right, Well, you're very welcome, and I appreciate the
phone call. Thank you very much, William. Very nice to
hear from you. Uh, we've got another great hour straight ahead,
and uh, we're gonna break down a couple other stories.
Give me fuel, give me fo give me that's a

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news talk eleven ten, ninety nine three WBT. It's the
Brent Winervill Show. It is great to be with you.
Seven oh four five seven zero eleven ten. Everything is
fair game. If you want to call in, you want
to opine, you want to you know, talk about what
you're interested in. Absolutely, we are happy to uh to
spend time with you in that regard tonight. UH, for
folks who are coming out, UH, we're gonna have a

(01:03:53):
great night tonight. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
We're gonna have a blast, and we will we will
regale you with all of the great stuff tomorrow if
you're not able to make it out there, but don't worry,
We'll be doing these over and over again. It's gonna
be a lot of fun. And I always love to
get together with the smartest audience in all of talk radio.
And by the way, that's not me sucking up, that's

(01:04:14):
me being sincere mostly part of it. Seven oh four, five,
seven oh eleven ten. Okay, what what what? What can
make your jam better than this particular story? Isaac may
need to leave the room, but that's okay. Here it
is Twulane monkeys escaped from an overturned truck Tuesday in Mississippi.

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A truck transporting reeseiss monkeys from the Tulane National Biomedical
Research Center crashed Tuesday afternoon on I fifty nine in
Jasper County, Mississippi. Did I get a did I hear
a sound coming from you?

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Just then?

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
They put a bounties on anything. No bounties, no bounties.
After the accident, a number of the monkeys escaped. Out
of twenty one total, five this is said five went
bye bye. Three others are unaccounted for. Still, where could
they possibly be? They don't know where they are. They

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don't have a map, nobody's got a Google map. How
do these monkeys do this? For real? I'm a proud
lover of monkeys. I love monkeys. I think monkeys are
really cool. I've told people the story about my grandfather.
He had two monkeys when he was in India during
World War two, and the whole reason why he had
the monkeys was he if they had a bug out

(01:05:50):
when the Japanese were coming, you'd be able to eat
any food that the monkeys could eat, and they were
not going to eat anything that was poisonous or anything
like that. I also do think he might have kept
because they would be good fighters, if if the if
the if it got to hand to hand combat, because
let me tell you, I can't even imagine what it
would be like to try to subdo a monkey holding,

(01:06:12):
you know, like a like a knife in his hand,
like he's he's going for everything. He's going for the
knee caps, he's going for the do not mentions, He's
doing all that. I mean, he's he's going for all
that stuff. But these these I don't understand how these
monkeys escape, Like I don't understand. I know the truck overturned,
but I mean, my gosh, what what what is this?

(01:06:36):
You know, we need better monkey security is essentially what
we need, especially Mississippi. There's a whole lot of you know,
different kind of problems that you could have there. And
let's be honest about this. You you could get these
lab monkeys out and then they start infecting other animals,
they start showing up at parties, they start doing all

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this kind of stuff, and then now all of a sudden, boom,
you know, you got somebody's now got some kind of
whatever it was that they shot them up with. By
the way, why do you have to transport them if
they've already got stuff in them? Like what you need
to do is give them the test on the stuff.
But once they're in a stable location, like I don't
think you just jack them up and then send them

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out on the road and say welcome to Mississippi. Authorities
say three monkeys remain on the loose after a truck
transporting researched animals from Tulane National Biomedical Research Center overturned
Tuesday afternoon on I fifty nine. As I mentioned, it
was just north of Heidelberg, which I thought was in Germany.

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But maybe there's another. The Jasper County Sheriff's department. It's
always the Sheriff's Department's got to go clean up the
monkey mess there, right. I mean, they gotta go, they
gotta get out of the thing, and then they gotta
go in. These guys are just regular guys. You gotta
be covered in chain mail. I mean, I'm serious, you
gotta be covered in chain mail to go. You gonna
go grab them, gonna bite your hands, They're gonna bite

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your knees. This is no good. And then they start scheming.
They're gonna plan. They're gonna be like, hey, listen, sh
just be quiet, just be quiet.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
This guy is very loud. I'm gonna just go a
couple feet this way. Let's all go different directions. Did
you did you have the good sense to take the
phone from the owner of the of the truck, because
we can we can order this thing's loaded. We can

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order dominoes, we can order you know, I haven't had
I haven't had a decent pizza, pizza slice since they
grabbed me up in Manhattan and then they put me
over here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Now I don't know what I'm doing? What am I doing?

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
I think we need to find an alliance with the
crocodiles and of course the alley gators, because we can
ride their backs and we can get safe. What do
you think? I mean, what do you think? I'm just
imagining the poor guy in Mississippi who runs across an
alligator being ridden by monkey. You know, he's definitely gonna

(01:09:16):
be like, dude, that was some strong shine. I gotta
get out of here. I that was bad. I got
a bad I got a bad batch. That could have
just been gasoline?

Speaker 5 (01:09:27):
Was that sure?

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
So here's the thing. The Jasper County Sheriff's Department confirmed
Tuesday evening the number of missing monkeys increased from one
to three. Hold on, do they do they pro create
that quickly? But there was one, now there's three? Or
wait a minute, hold on a second, is it possible?

(01:09:50):
Is it possible that they weren't counted properly? No, don't
do not make a joke. I'm telling you right now
now the governor, the governor of Mississippi has taken the
reading standards to number one in the country. Do not
do not. Don't be making fun of different states, because

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these states. Mississippi is now very much what is rees
Tate Tate Reese. The guy's really proud of it. Like
there's people they got the amazing, it's incredible what they've got.
The crash led to the escape of six of the
twenty one monkeys on bar twenty one monkeys.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Twenty one.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Three have since been recovered. So let's say what you
just said a second ago.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
How do you how do you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Identify? How do you identify them? Like you might be
out there any monkey you find in Mississippi's probably involved.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
The driver of the truck told local law enforcement, you
know what, let's let's move it up a little. Let's
get let's get somebody else in the scene, like a
like a veterinarian, like a weaponized veterinarian, something like that.
They said that the monkeys were dangerous and posed a
threat to humans.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
It's always that, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
We took the appropriate actions after being given information from
the person transporting the monkeys. I'm sorry, I'm gonna read
this sentence and I can't do it straight. He also
stated that you have to wear PPE equipment to.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Handle the monkeys.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Where you're getting the PPP equipment? The PPE equipment? What
are we back in COVID who's driving around with PPE
equipmn you know darn well that they handled these monkeys
and they didn't They didn't know what they were doing.
Residents are urged not to approve, not to approach the monkeys.
You could wave at them, but don't approach them and

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call law enforcement immediately if they're spotted. Wait, I don't
see any spots on this guy. Oh wait, if the
monkeys are spotted, dude, they He said that you have
to wear PPE equipment to handle the monkeys priv for
the best.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
I think it's COVID monkeys.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
We had this problem with the maccox like back back
a couple of years ago. It was serious problem.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Holy Cow.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Residents are urged not to approach the monkeys, just wave
at them politely. Non human primates what is that? Non
Human primates at the Two Lane National Biomedical Research Center
are provided to other research organizations. This is a jail break,
that's what they did. They said, listen, we're getting out

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of here and we're gonna go. We're gonna go, and
we're gonna We're gonna Yes, they're going to other zoos
to break out monkey listen. Of course, this is gonna
become a gang thing. Ppe pp ppe p.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
H.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Yeah. News Talk eleven, WBT, Brett Winterbull Show. Good to
be with you, guys. We uh soldier on here. Let's
uh Mike, welcome to the program. Mike, what's on your
mind today?

Speaker 5 (01:13:42):
Sir?

Speaker 15 (01:13:43):
Well, I don't know if you realize it is, and
I don't. I wasn't listening to your guitar broadcast. I
don't know if you touched on this or not.

Speaker 16 (01:13:49):
But this thing with the monkeys is this is a
frequent occurrent. It is go back and look it is.
So maybe it's one of the Deep.

Speaker 15 (01:13:57):
States last moves that they have.

Speaker 16 (01:14:01):
It's one of the it's one of the things that
have it one of the tools that they still have
at their disposal.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
There's been movies made on.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
The same Oh yeah, oh no, sure did the idea They.

Speaker 16 (01:14:12):
Only have so many they only have so many assets
left and they have to use everything they have.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Yeah, I'll tell I'll take it under advisement, I think.
I mean, look, it's there's it's not impossible, right, I mean,
think about think about what Fauci was doing over with
the with what was going on over there with the bats. Remember, Oh,
it was just a bat, a chance.

Speaker 16 (01:14:30):
A chance to start a pandemic, a chance. And they
use they use fear. They use fear to control people
in the tool to control people.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
I think, Mike, I think you make an important point,
and I appreciate you calling in today, my friend.

Speaker 12 (01:14:40):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
Yeah, you're very welcome. Absolutely, it's it's look, it's it's
it's concerning. Uh, Andrew, welcome to the show. What's on
your mind, Andrew?

Speaker 17 (01:14:47):
Oh, yes, sir, Hey, So of course we got local
elections coming up in a lot of places on Tuesday. Yes,
I'm coming up this upcoming Tuesday, and I'm down here
in Lankster Cethroline of Rock across the state line.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Awesome.

Speaker 17 (01:14:59):
You know how much Indian Land's grown up, you know,
with all the transplants coming down and they're wanting another
one percent sales tax so they can work on the roads. Well,
it's only the third time we've heard that in the
past two decades. And I'm trying to tell people, once
you give the county this money, they do not ever
give it back. You will pay that until the day
you die.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
So do you have an estimate as to what that
would mean to the bottom line of an average sort
of person.

Speaker 17 (01:15:26):
Well, yeah, so we're currently paying eight percent sales tax
right now in Leicester County, which is higher than Mecklenburg
and it's higher than any of the surrounding counties around us.
So if they had another one percent, we're going to
go to nine percent. And not only that, that's nine
percent on your regular goods. Well, if you go to
a restaurant out to eat, well of course you've got
your your restaurant tax or whatever another one percent, So
now you're paying ten percent, you know, feed out. So

(01:15:51):
it's just ridiculous. I mean, they claim that, you know,
thirty percent of the traffic down here comes from out
of the county or out of the state. Well that
might be true, but that thirty percent is gonna find
somewhere else to go when they really they got to
pay ken cent on the dollar for everything.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
But sure, sure, and with the changes that are that
are happening bye by migration coming in, you're also going
to see you know what you said. Once you start,
once you start doling out that money, it's not gonna
it never goes the other way.

Speaker 17 (01:16:16):
Yeah, we've already voted for this twice and every time
we have it, it does not go away. We've gotten
the same They call it sales tax one, sales tax two,
and now they're calling it sales tax three. It's the
same sales tax that we've already voted on three times
and they're just wanting to add it again.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Thank you for the uh for the alarm there, because
it's important that the audience. We have a big audience,
and that's that's a really important thing that you're.

Speaker 17 (01:16:36):
That you like to advise them to vote no on
the sales tax increase.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
You got it. Absolutely call in on election night. Okay,
we'd love to hear from you.

Speaker 17 (01:16:44):
Thank you sir.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
Thanks Andrew, appreciate you being out there. Let's go to
Joe next. Hey, Joe, welcome to the show. Oh wow,
are you trying to tell me where you are? Because
we can get the Mississippi of people to come happy.
Oh my god, look at this guy, this is just unbelievable.
All right, well done, well done. I appreciate that it's

(01:17:07):
monkeying around. Yes, exactly, that's exactly right. But I have
to say it, that's the first time I've ever experienced
that on the radio where somebody called in, don't do
Nobody else gets to do that. Okay, that was a
one time thing. I had to make an arrangement with
the sheriffs there in Mississippi. They were described, they were

(01:17:30):
describing it. That was the description. He's that's the call.
They're calling out for the for the for the other
monkeys to come in so that they can be safe,
so they can be safe. And again, I just got
to be an easier way to do this. But then again,
it might not matter. Why might it not matter? It

(01:17:52):
might not matter because well.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Let me just tell you something.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
We've got ai atlas and time. Maybe they're just trying
to get free to make contacted. Where you're going with

(01:18:24):
that kind of yo seven four five seven zero eleven
ten Brett Waterbow Show. Good to be with you. All right,
let me uh, let me clear my throat here, No,
let me hit you with this, okay, because this is

(01:18:47):
a big story that we're gonna have to deal with
when it comes to uh, the shutdown, snap benefits set
for first ever laps with sentatest to reject reject the
funding patches. Okay, the funding patches. So here's how the

(01:19:08):
story goes out of Politico. So this is obviously slanted
towards the Republicans or Nazis. So just know that off
the beginning of this, Senate Republicans will block a Democratic
bill that would keep federal food aid flowing to forty
two million Americans as they try to build pressure to

(01:19:29):
reopen the government. That according to Majority Leader John Thune
on Wednesday, the bill from New Mexico Senator Ben Ray Luhan,
which would fund the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program and Women,
Infants and Children Nutrition past November the first is quote

(01:19:52):
a cynical attempt to buy political cover for Democrats to
allow them to carry on their government and shutdown even longer.
So Thune says, We're not going to play this game.
We're not going to allow you guys to just give
this group this constituency the stuff that they need while

(01:20:13):
ignoring everybody else. That's where they're going to try to
spin this. We're not going to let them pick winners
and losers, he added on the twenty ninth day of
the government shutdown, it only takes one Senator to object
to passing a bill by unanimous consent, as Democrats plan
to do in the coming hours, and short of President

(01:20:37):
Donald Trump unilaterally shifting funds, which administration officials say he
will not do, snap formerly known as food stamps, will
lapse for the first time in modern history at the
end of this week. Okay, so what do you think
is going to happen?

Speaker 5 (01:20:56):
Then?

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
What is going to happen next? There's a lot of
people on social media who are very, very angry about this,
I mean extraordinarily angry about this, and I think with
good reason. I think with good reason. These people are
angry because they see exactly what the game is that
Chuck Schumer is playing. Chuck Schumer literally wants to have

(01:21:20):
his raw cheeseburger and eat it too. This is the problem. Okay,
this is the problem. And understand they're gonna they're gonna
try to do this with all sorts of different accouterments,
and it's all for show, period, full stop. Everybody knows

(01:21:41):
exactly the direction you can get everything going back again.
Is doing it the way we were negotiating back in
the day period. That's it. They're not gonna do this piecemeal,
because if they do it piecemeal, then they're gonna go
and try to reh you know, re gift the money
to NPR, to transgender people in Mongolia, to all this

(01:22:09):
kind of stuff that they're going to do. The Food
Aid cliff has split Republicans between those who want to
make sure that the program is funded any way possible
and GOP leaders and others who don't want to ease
pressure on the Democrats fully reopen the government. And I'm
telling you what it is, this is all going to
come down to one thing. It's gonna come down to
one thing, and one thing only you know what it is.

(01:22:30):
It's going to come down to the elections on Tuesday.
That's what it's going to come down to. Chuck Schumer
needs to be able to come out and say we
have a mandate, we have a mandami. We have a
guy who wants to kill Republicans, and we have Mickey

(01:22:54):
Sheryl who lied about her service and other things like that.
News Talk at eleven ten nine nine three WVT. Let's
go out and talk to Dwayne. Dwayne, welcome to the
programer go for it, buddy.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
Hello, Hello, great day to you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
Sir, Thank you you as well.

Speaker 18 (01:23:11):
I was just thinking about the comment you said about
the forty two million people, Yes that is on SNAP benefits. Yes,
And I've not heard anybody in the media anywhere, or
even casual conversations that says raise their hand and say
why are forty two million people on SNAP benefits? That

(01:23:34):
tells you right there that there is a governmental problem
in how they handle legislation, because there's no way in
this country forty two million people should be on SNAP.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Well, we actually don't know what the number is. And
here's why I say this, and I'm not being a
wise guy. In fiscal year twenty twenty four, so that
was the Biden administration, they had an average of forty
one point seven million America participating in the Supplemental Nutrition
Assistance Program. Now, I don't know if that also means

(01:24:08):
that there are people who are in the country illegally
who are taking advantage of that as well. But the
average monthly benefit, okay, the average monthly benefit per participant,
so that's a family of four would be four people, right,
it would be one hundred and eighty seven dollars and
twenty cents in fiscal year twenty twenty four, and they

(01:24:29):
have not audited this. We don't know what the number
actually looks like.

Speaker 19 (01:24:34):
Correct, I mean, well if we never ordered a federal
reserve either.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
But well, yeah, I'm right there with you on that one.

Speaker 19 (01:24:40):
Yes, but you know, I can't imagine, well, a government
that runs a country and forty two million citizens are
just on snaps.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
That tells you the whole government is a failure.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
Well well, but remember, the government is going to get
what we give it. I mean, essentially is what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:25:06):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
The government doesn't have the money, we have to pay
taxes and they have to then attribute the money to
what the priorities are. And unfortunately, you know what, we
don't know. Everything ought ought to be audited, but unfortunately
we're not gonna be able to do that during the shutdown.
Great stuff, Dwayne. I appreciate you calling in on the

(01:25:27):
show News Talk eleven, ten ninety nine three WVT. It's
the Brettwerble Show. Good to be with you. All right,
This is this is a story that I that I

(01:25:49):
think is shocking in many ways and the way that
they're handling. This is kind of I don't understand this,
but let me let me because it's coming up on Halloween, right,
This is like where you get the alerts from things
like that. So officers will visit Tennessee sex offenders' homes

(01:26:11):
on Halloween to ensure compliance. Johnson City, Tennessee. Probation and
Parole officers in Tennessee will visit the homes of sex
offenders whose convictions involved children's involved children on Halloween. I'm
assuming it's they're saying that will involve children comma on Halloween.

(01:26:35):
I don't know if it's just Halloween violations, but.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
That doesn't seem to make sense.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
The effort is part of the Tennessee Department of Corrections
t DOCS Operation Blackout. Operation Blackout is a statewide effort
that aims to keep children and the public safe from
people during trick or treating. That's a great idea. According
to the TDOC news release, officers will make unannounced home

(01:27:02):
visits to make sure high risk individuals are in compliance
for Halloween. Per the TDOC, sex offenders whose offenses involve
children are not allowed to do the following on Halloween,
answering the door to tricker. Traders on Halloween, porch lights

(01:27:23):
must remain off and front doors closed. Distributing Halloween treats, candy, favors,
or gifts to children at their residence or any other home.
Offenders may not visit or be present in any residence
where there are people being distributing the candies. Right the

(01:27:44):
distribution of treats, candy favors, or gifts by anyone at
the offenders registered residents, You're not allowed to wear costumes.
You're not allowed to have a Halloween party at the
offender's residence. You can't visit corn mazes, haunted houses, hay rides,

(01:28:06):
or any other seasonal activities, or attending any function where
children are gathered, even if it's a private residence. TDOC
reports there's more than twenty six thousand registered sex offenders
in the state, and roughly five thousand are under active
TDOC supervision. Okay, here's the thing that I can't square this. Okay,

(01:28:35):
how the heck does that many people get monitored like that,
like there's gonna be I mean, something's gotta go. I
would rather take them to a location, a field or
something and make them just sit there like no, I'm
dead I'm dead serious about it. You could probably get

(01:28:57):
a stadium. It's twenty six thousand, right, there's twenty six
thousand offenders. Take them, take them it's look, it's Johnson City.
Take them to this, to the UH, to the place,
and make them sit there in the in the stadium.
That's probably not going to be used.

Speaker 20 (01:29:14):
I mean, why would you you should you should have
to be segregated away from any chance with the kids.
I mean, this is how many cops could you possibly
have in Tennessee? I mean, is there twenty five thousand,
thirty thousand cops? I mean, I don't know what the
number is, but the idea especially I'm you know, I'm
a I'm a parent.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
My wife and I we raised kids. We have wonderful
children in our neighborhood. Our kids are beyond you know,
Halloween at this stage of the game. But but you know,
we have these wonderful kids in our neighborhood. And we're
lucky because, you know, in our community, everybody kind of
keeps an eye out for each other. You know, it's
like one of those kind of nice, nice sort of
communities where everybody everybody's you know, kind of neighborhood watch

(01:29:58):
for everybody. You know, somebody comes driving down the road
and it's it seems like it's, you know, two o'clock
in the morning. Everybody kind of gets gets and says, Okay,
what the heck's going on over here? What's this all about?
Red rover, Red rover. Send send Isaac right over. He's
got to go out there and check it out. He's
got to go with the uh with the equipment. But

(01:30:18):
I don't I really think you ought to. You should
be putting them. I'm just telling you you should be.
You should be segregating them for the holiday period. Put them,
put them in the put them in the stadium, and
give him, give them a little give them a little
a nighttime weather, you know, just cool them off. I'm
serious about that. It's not it's in no way a
joke at all. John, Welcome to the program. What's on

(01:30:41):
your mind?

Speaker 5 (01:30:41):
John?

Speaker 15 (01:30:42):
Yeah, I just wanted to come in on the last
guy who was surprised that there's forty two million people
on food stamps.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
Huh.

Speaker 15 (01:30:50):
Somehow it's a government problem. And you know, in order
to qualify for food stamps, you have to prove your
income is too low. To me, it's such a certain threshold.
So the problem, of course, is that they're not making
enough money. Companies aren't paying low income workers enough money

(01:31:12):
to afford things like food, rents, healthcare. Same issue with healthcare.
So many companies are not offering health care to people.
They're making them part time, they're giving them thirty hours
so they don't have to pay them benefits. So that's
why we need Medicare, that's why we need Medicaid. Excuse me,

(01:31:32):
food stamps, that's why we need the Affordable Care Act
for people that aren't offered these things. So not a
government problem, it is a capitalism problem. And so companies
need to take care of our employees.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
Sure, I understand that, I understand that. But you know,
the crazy nature of these sort of stories, right, is
that the government shutdown is costing the economy up to
fourteen billion dollars. And that's that's a problem because you were,
we were on a flight path to address these issues,
and then suddenly Chuck Schumer decided he wanted to shut

(01:32:08):
it down and go go.

Speaker 15 (01:32:09):
To Well, the shutdowns a whole different issue. I'm just
addressing the fact that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
We need But it's all it's all connected, it's.

Speaker 15 (01:32:15):
All companies don't take care of their Yeah, simple.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
So give me the Give me one company that doesn't
take care of their employees.

Speaker 15 (01:32:23):
Uh, well, Walmart for one, They've gotten better. But virtually
any large corporation is nai going to look for every
opportunity sure to do not have to pay their employees
a high wage because they're beholden to their share of So.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
What's what's a high wage? What's a high wage? What's
a high wage as.

Speaker 15 (01:32:46):
Opposed to a low wage? Or what's a fair wage?

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
Okay, okay, I'll go I'll go with you. No, no, I'll
go with you on that. I'll go with you on that.
What's the fair wage? Tell me what the fair wage?

Speaker 15 (01:32:56):
Your wage is twenty bucks an hour, depends on where
you live, okay, country?

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
Okay, plus benefits plus benefits.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
I'm sorry, what are you asking?

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
What benefits plus plus benefits plus benefits, So twenty plus benefits.

Speaker 15 (01:33:12):
I think that's that should be a basic compensation package.

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
Okay, Look, I think it's a I think it's a
fine I think it's a fine argument, John, I appreciate
the call. None of that can happen because Chuck Schumer
shut everything down. I mean Unfortunately, there's nothing that can
happen now. And so this group of people whose poll
numbers continue to go down further and further and further.

(01:33:43):
It's it's not a productive approach when you're trying to
get the government back working. That's the problem. And believe me,
I I am absolutely concerned about our neighbor about people
at our churches, about people who are in need, all

(01:34:03):
of that stuff. But at this stage of the game,
a guy called Chuck Schumer and a guy called Hakeem
Jeffries from a place that none of us would ever
want to live, New York City is holding the American
economy hostage, the American government hostage. That's the problem. The

(01:34:24):
problem is we have these people up in New York
City who can't even manage their own business, trying to
stick their nose in your business. Coming up next breaking
with Brett Jensen. We're on our way over to, of course,
the great, great place that we love to go to,

(01:34:46):
and that is October Fest tonight over at Barrel Arts.
That's right, baby, Newstock eleven ten nine nine three wbts
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