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July 22, 2025 • 85 mins

Tune in here to this Tuesday’s edition of the Brett Winterble Show! 

Brett kicks off the show with the all-time great "Crazy Train" by a true rock and roll legend, John "Ozzy" Osborne. Ozzy passed earlier today. This was one of those special humans whose impact on this world will not soon be forgotten. We should take a key lesson from Ozzy's incredible life: never give in, never lose faith, and never stop dreaming. You will never know how close you were if you quit; you could be a day away from a breakthrough, but you will never succeed if you quit. And you will never lose if you never stop. Take that leap of faith, keep working, and never stop. If you never give up, you cannot lose!

Later, Brett took aim at the growing disconnect between America’s wealthy elite and the working class, highlighting comments from actor Jeff Daniels as a stark example. Brett unpacked what he called “a revolution by the rich against the average American,” pointing out the irony of multimillionaires like Daniels and Hunter Biden criticizing everyday Americans for wanting qualified, certified professionals in critical trades like plumbing and electrical work.

Bo Thompson from Good Morning BT is also here for this Tuesday's episode of Crossing the Streams. Brett and Bo talk about the impact of Ozzy Osbourne’s passing and the challenges of covering profanity-laced interviews like the recent Hunter Biden appearance. Brett and Bo dive into the complexities broadcasters face when deciding what content makes it to air—especially when it’s riddled with explicit language. Both agree that excessive censoring can strip audio of meaning and turn off audiences, particularly when families are listening. Bo also shares insights from his powerful recent interview with Senator Thom Tillis, touching on the Epstein files, Laura Trump, and what North Carolina’s political landscape may look like moving forward. Bo also shares what he and Beth have coming up Wednesday on Good Morning BT!

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Speaker 1 (01:19):
News Talk eleven TED ninety nine to three WBT, it's
the Brett Winter Bull Show. Very sad story today with
the passing of John Michael Osborne. You know him as
Ozzy Osbourne, and he lived a life of incredible, you know,
of incredible achievements in rock and roll. He basically set

(01:45):
in stone what modern day metal was and he was
somebody who absolutely pressed the button full speed ahead at
all times. And he passed away today at the age
of seventy six, which is very interesting because when you
look back over the arc of his career and all

(02:07):
the stuff that he was known for, or they had
things attached to him as having been known for and
things like that, this is a guy who lived life
at its fullest. And I think that's something that we
ought to understand and we ought to respect. You know,
all of these great artists that have come in the

(02:30):
world of rock and roll, whether it's you know, the
old stuff or the newer stuff, or the metal stuff
or any of that. It's really incredible because these are
all people who have charted their course and you know,
but for the United States of America, you would not
have the sort of sounds that were out there. So

(02:54):
Ozzy Osbourne passed away earlier today at seventy six, and
an incredible life well lived. And when you sit back
and you think about the Prince of Darkness and all
that sort of stuff, he was actually he was a Christian.
He was a Christian. He was not, you know, out
there proclaiming on the corner, but he identified as a Christian.

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He understood, you know that the world is a very
complex place. And you know, watching that that last concert
that took place just a couple of weeks ago, obviously
he wasn't in great shape, but man, he made a
show of it. And that's one of the things that's
hugely important. And so I know he's he came from Birmingham,

(03:43):
and I just want to say that everybody can claim
him because rock and roll knows no boundaries. And that's
one of the that's one of the important storylines that
I think needs to be understood. And you know, when
you think about what he did and you think about
some of the people he worked with, and I'll share

(04:03):
with you a very brief story later on in the program.
One of the things that's that's remarkable, is he he
continued to make new music. There was a there was
a single that was dropped about six months ago, five
six months ago, and it did sound like the final

(04:25):
farewell from him. It did sound like it was it
was the summation of everything that that he had to
deal with, whether it was addiction or in the other
case of Parkinson at Parkinson's disease. And so this is
it's a very interesting time to be alive. It's it's
it's very weird because most of the rock and roll

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people that have died. When I'm on the air, I
mean it's I was here back when Eddie van Halen
died and we did a whole, a whole show talking
about that in taking people's remembrances back in back in
the day before I came to uh WBT, I was

(05:09):
there during the the passing of of Lemmy. Lemmy and
Ozzie were like inseparable guys. They they worked, they worked
a whole lot together, and you know, it is uh
it is really something to think about. America invented rock
and roll, and countries around the world adopted rock and roll,

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and as the as the Old as the Old saying goes,
you know, rock and roll will never die. It's just
going to reinvent itself in a variety of different ways.
So we're going to break into, you know, all the
big stories that are out there that are trending. But
if you have a if you have a thought, we
would certainly love to hear from you. WBT text line
driven by Liberty Buick GMC. You know that's that's that's

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where you can you know, send some send some notes
and think about this. John saying to us, I'm not
a fan of Ozzie's music. However, I like the fact
that they had the farewell concert while he was still
alive and so people were able to show their appreciation
to him in person, so much better than a funeral. Yes,
I agree with that one hundred percent. Gosh, you go

(06:19):
back to the passing of Eddie van Halen and they
never had anything for him. I mean, it was COVID,
I understand that, and people were kind of jostling and
pushing back and forth, but they never had any kind
of a remembrance of him, which is terrible. You know,
the greats should be the greats should always be respected

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for the craft they put in because when people go
out on a journey to try to do something new,
they don't know if it's going to work, and so
often people just give up, and you never know how
close you would have come had you just soldiered on.

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And that's the thing that people should always think about.
If you are trying to launch a business, launch a concept, launch,
whatever project you're trying to do, don't give up. Just
go until you can't anymore, because you never know at
what point you will open that door to success. And

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it doesn't mean you have to be a millionaire or
a billionaire. It just means keep on trying. That is
the ultimate News Talk eleven ten, nine A nine to

(07:54):
three WBT Brent, whatever'll show good to be with you. Okay,
I woke up this morning. I did not have this
on my Bingo card. I did not have this on
my bingo card. So, Todd Blanche, do you know who
Todd Blanche is? Does anybody know who Todd Blanche is?
Todd Blanche, where's Todd Blanche? We don't know. Todd Blanche
is one of the guys who's in charge of part

(08:19):
of the Department of Justice. Okay, and Todd Blanche once
upon a time was Donald Trump's lawyer when he had
to talk to that awful corrupt judge in New York.
Which one was that I'm not gonna say because I
don't want to get thrown in the clink when I
go to New York. So Todd Blanche is setting up

(08:43):
a meeting. And this should make you guys happy. Well,
a constituency of you guys will be happy because you
guys are all about this. This is everything that you've
been hoping for for the last two weeks. This is
everything you guys have been going. Oh, come on, come on,
come on. Todd Blanche is gonna go kick it with

(09:07):
Jelaine Maxwell in the jail. He's gonna go talk to her.
He's been sent out to go talk to Julaine. Do
you know who Julayne Maxwell is? Douse, they may know
who Jelaine Maxwell is. Anybody familiar who is Julainne Maxwell?
That's right, the other half of Epsteino. So he's he's

(09:33):
got the indications that he's gonna go and talk to her. Now,
I don't know what he's gonna go talk to her about,
but a lot of people are gonna be really excited
on X it's gonna be a lot of X people
very happy, a lot of other channels very happy about this.
I don't know what he's gonna actually get out of this,
but but apparently he's he's gonna go talk to her.

(09:53):
And now what does this mean? Could it mean pardon?
Could it mean testify? Could it mean tell us what's
going on? What happened? How did this go? All this
sort of stuff. I mean, we've had a lot of
people who are very very uh into that topic. I
mean they're they're they're not as into the topic of

(10:14):
you know, like tax cuts and uh border security. They're
not about that. They're about the stuff that is, you know,
an appendage of what would I what would I want
to say? An appendage of uh quon uh and people
like that. I'm sorry, sneezed tu anda. Sorry, it's just

(10:34):
very very It's a weird thing. I just I sneeze
every time I hear quon and and but but look,
this is good. He's gonna go when he's gonna talk
to these people, and the people are gonna send me
notes and they're gonna say, they're gonna say, oh, listen,
what are you talking about? Why? Why aren't you talking
about this? Why are you talking about this? Like all that,
all that stuff, You get it either way. I just

(10:57):
want to see the United States of America be a
strong country. That is the only dog I have in
this fight is seeing America be a strong country that
is defending our sovereignty. And if this gets a chance
for us to get out there and to find out,
you know, what actually happened. What did she talk about?

(11:19):
What about this? What about that? Then I'm definitely I'm
very very intrigued by this conversation. You know, I'm very
intrigued by the conversation. But I just I don't know
what they're going to go talk about and then what's
going to be released. And then the problem is if
you do not talk about what's going to be talked about,
you know, why what are we doing? You know? I

(11:42):
mean it's just people are just not going to be satisfied,
you know, They're they're not going to be satisfied. They're
going to be mad, they're going to be bent out
of shape, they're they're all that sort of stuff. And again,
we don't know, we don't know what the direction of
this is, you know, I mean, that's that's the thing
we got to think about. I want to get all
the facts out, but I want the facts to come out, right,
I want the facts to come out. I think that

(12:05):
there is a real possibility that you could go into
that courtroom that the judge is sitting on the documents apparently, right,
that's what we've been told in the in the last
couple of weeks. You should be able to just go
yank them out of the possession of that judge. You know,
Dershowitz is always talking about this stuff. He's saying, I'm

(12:28):
sworn I can't say anything about what's in the compound,
or what was going on, or any of these sorts
of things. But at some point, you know, I would
just say, you know what, just go in there. Just
going there. Is not a sacro sanct thing about judges,
like I know, people think like federal judges are this
close to the Lord. No they're not. They're people who

(12:51):
are appointed who played the game, well, who got appointed
for the federal judge bench, right, I mean, you see
these people that are holding people hostage, the these these silly,
irrelevant judges that nobody knows the name of. Yesterday you
saw them, you know, just kicking sand in Trump's face
yesterday because of of the the stuff that's going on

(13:14):
at Harvard. You've got this little district judge who's appointed
by Barack Obama. So you know exactly what the what
the what the obvious belief is gonna be. And you're
not gonna ever get a chance to have a fair
hearing because these are all people coming out of the
Northeast circuits, and those Northeast circuits, as everybody knows, are

(13:34):
are as as left as they get, as left as
they get. They're right there like Minami as the judge,
Like you got to put him in there as a judge.
And so I say, the presidential power should have the
ability to demand that you're gonna give us the documents

(13:55):
that the judge is sitting on, and who cares? Let
them come in and enforce it. Shifty Shift has been neutered.
Have you noticed this? Have you seen Shift in any way,
shape or form on television?

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Now?

Speaker 1 (14:10):
I thought he was all about the Ukraine thing and
the Russia thing and all that kind of stuff. Where
is Adam Shift? Is he at his mansion in Maryland
or his mansion in California? Boy? That got him quiet,
didn't it. All you gotta do is start slinging the lingo.
All you gotta do is start saying, hey, this is

(14:32):
you know, this has got to be known. So if
Todd blanche goes in there in the impromater of the
President of the United States and they say, listen, we
want the documents, We're taking the documents. We're just we're
displaying the documents, and we're gonna get this thing down
so we understand what exactly went down. Number one, number two,
number two. You know what else you gotta do. You

(14:55):
got to keep your promises that you have put up,
and you you should continue getting rid of the folks
who are trying to kill us with ventanyl and crime
and that sort of stuff. You've got to send them
back to their home countries. Little more Ozzie, please News

(15:46):
Talk eleven three WBT Ozzy I was born passing away
earlier today, John Michael Ozzy Osborne seven four five seven
eleven tag. We got some feedback. Some of the stuff
I can and read, some of the stuff I cannot
read on the text line. Interesting interesting thought from somebody

(16:07):
who had checked in with us. When and if they
talk to Maxwell Julane Maxwell. They should have her on
a lie detector machine. She could say anything she wants. Well,
that is that you know the thing about the the
machines that they use, right when when you have this happen,

(16:28):
you know that people try to use like all sorts
of measures to try to kind of trick the machine
and stuff like that. It is not a perfect science.
In fact, you know, in many cases like that, you
can't you can't put it in the court other than
as you know, contemporary kind of a thing. But it's
very interesting to think about that. So I think she

(16:49):
wants to get out. I think she wants to get out.
You know, I don't, I don't know, I don't. Here's
the thing, there are different grade dations of talking about politics.
So there are people and I'll give you an example.
I won't give you the names of the people, but
there are people who know, like, think about Karl Rove. Okay,

(17:12):
maybe you don't like Carl Rove, but just follow follow
me for a moment here. You know, Karl Rove is
one of these guys where he can say, you know what,
the third district of Arkansaw is up by plus two points,
and it looks like then this will happen in that
part of Arkansas. Right, These people who are like super

(17:34):
drilled in to specific districts. It's like people who are
so into baseball that they know what all the standings are,
but they also know what the RBIs are and all
that kind of stuff. Right, These people who are just
savants and these are all these are gifts, right, you
have gifts the ability to retain information with very specific things.

(18:00):
You know, history people are really good like that. Victor
Davis Hansen is somebody who is remarkable at remembering this
long line of history over a period of time. And
then you've got people who say, all right, we're going
to forecast that this is going to happen or this
is not going to happen. You know, we think that

(18:22):
this person is going to run for the office, or
that person's gonna run for the office. And every once
in a while, like you might hit, you might hit,
like on some big stuff. I mean, I'm personally I'm
a little proud about the idea of what I was
able to see when it was coming down the line,

(18:42):
and that was seeing Mike Johnson getting elected to be
the Speaker of the House. There was a whole bunch
of turmoil and then boom, Mike Johnson became the Speaker
of the House. You know, that's the sort of thing
that you can you can kind of see things if
you want, how these storylines ebb and flow. For example,

(19:05):
look at Hakeem Jeffries. Hakeem Jeffries is somebody who is
He's not a nasty opponent for Mike Johnson. He just
doesn't work well with Mike Johnson. But he's somebody who's
an institutionalist. He's been in the House for a number

(19:26):
of years and now he's the minority leader in the
House of Representatives. He is somebody who in some ways
offers up like a pragmatic sort of approach. He's not
a radical. He hasn't endorsed that crazy guy Zorhan over
in New York for the mayoralty. Chuck Schumer hasn't done
that either. These are people who do their own kind

(19:48):
of thing. And so this is all a way to
bring this about by saying you look at these politics
that are out there, well, there are people who are
just obsessed with sex scandals and people that are doing
things that are wrong. I mean, you just saw a
ten days worth of coverage with the guy and the

(20:12):
woman from the Astronomy company who were messing around at
the Coldplay concert, right, And there are people who are like,
Oh my god, this is so exciting. I just love
this story. It's such a great story we're going to
talk about. I think I mentioned it once in the
entirety of the week because one of my things is
I'm not a cheater, and I don't like cheaters. I
think if you get married, stay married. If you don't

(20:34):
want to be married, then you know, go find another remedy.
But the fact of the matter is, you know, there's
like all these elements in the world of politics that
are attached to different sort of reasons. I love foreign policy.
I don't necessarily focus a whole lot on local, local races.

(20:58):
I like looking at things, things that are potentially going
to be important for us and are potentially going to
be dangerous for us. I like to I'm much more
like a Paul Revere than I am a let's see,
I'm more like a Paul Revere riding the horse telling
people what's going to come, than say Thomas Jefferson. Not

(21:23):
that I don't like Thomas Jefferson. He was an important guy.
I like Thomas Jefferson more than I like John Adams,
and I like I do like John Adams. Okay, he's
a fine guy. But you know who I like better?
Come on the legend, the guy, the guy who was

(21:44):
the legend. You don't even know. I got a producer
here staring. He's staring at me, and he's trying to
tell me, like, what are you talking about? Sam Adams.
I liked Sam Adams before he was a beer. I
liked him when he was a patriot. When he was
a patriot. You know, he was a cousin. He was

(22:06):
a cousin of of who do you know? Anybody? Anybody? Anybody? Anybody?
John Adams, John Adams, News Talk eleven ten, not nine
three WBT Brett Warables Show. There's like so much stuff

(22:26):
that's going on out here. Man, It's just it's just unbelievable.
I want to go back to the Ozzie thing for
a second. Okay, So Sherry Uh worked in the music
business in Los Angeles for a number of years, and
and she spent a lot of time in uh different

(22:46):
Uh what's the thing I'm thinking of here? Different uh
sort of situations involving recording records and things like that.
And so one of the things that she was talking
to me about as I was driving into work today
was about the time she got to spend time with

(23:09):
Ozzy Osbourne at a recording studio and use These were
like huge recording studios where when bands were going to
go out on the road, they would come in and rehearse.
So these were like rehearsal studios, so you would have
all this gear, all this equipment going on, and Sherry
was responsible for a lot of the intake and the

(23:29):
outgo of of the different equipment that had to be
used for for the for the tours. And she was
talking to me about this right right before the show started,
and she talked to me about the time she started
talking to Ozzy Osbourne and Ozzy Osbourne was getting ready

(23:50):
to go out on tour and she she was relaying
to me earlier today that Ozzy was going out on tour,
were getting ready for a massive, you know, massive number
of dates, and he came into her office. This is
Ozzy Osbourne. This is Ozzy Osbourne. When Ozzy Osbourne was
Ozzy Osbourne, right, And he comes in and he walks

(24:14):
into her office and she she she says, you know, hi,
you know, what can we do for you? And he
pulled out a hacky sack. He pulled out a hacky sack. People,
people from the eighties and nineties will know what the
hacky sack is, right. He took a hacky sack and
he started playing hacky sack, knocking it off of his foot.

(24:34):
He would take his foot and he would knock knock
the hacky sack, and he was trying to do all
kinds of stuff. This is Ozzy Osbourne playing hacky sack
in her office. And he kept mumbling to her in
this you know, this particular way he was talking where
you couldn't understand what he was saying. He's just you know,

(24:55):
you just get what away, you know, And Sherry just
was like smiling at him. She was she was smiling
at him, going okay, all right, and he's like, oh, yes,
you know it needs I got there's other thing. No, no, no,
jugg here. This is really weird. And and so it
was like one of those deals and he's playing hacky sack.

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So I said to her, I said, I said, do
you ever like want to take a picture with these
people like you? And she's like that's how you wreck things.
You don't because you're working with these people, Like I'm
working with Isaac. I don't take pictures of Isaac. I
know Isaac has taken pictures of me. I'm a little
nervous about that. I think he's selling them out there

(25:36):
on the road. No, but it's like when you're working
in those sort of environments, you don't you don't take pictures.
You're not like, hey, hey, click here you go, Hey
can I get a picture with you? Because then you
know what happens. What happens is people don't trust you
if you take their pictures because they're like, hey, I

(25:58):
think we're I thought we were working at Isaac. I
thought we're working together. Why are you taking a picture
of me eating a sandwich? Why why are you doing this?
Why are you doing that? And that's that's what ends
up happening. But but I I, I just it was
a really great way to hear the humanity of Ozzie
Osborne getting ready to go out on the road and
uh and doing doing what he was going to do,

(26:20):
and Sherry was helping him out for that for that tour,
and uh, that's you like that there's a lot of
there's a lot to be around celebrities. I've been been
around a couple of celebrities that I've worked with and
have known, and they're just on a different level. But

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you know what they are. They are They are people
who people will line up to see and to talk
to and to just just be in that moment. That's
That's the thing that's truly incredible, I think all the
way around, because people are in in that moment and

(27:04):
they are feeling even even from a distance, they're feeling like, hey,
you you you can feel this way, you can see
all this sort of stuff. I remember back about five
years ago when when Eddie van Hamlin passed away and
you know, Sherry came on and was talking about it
because it was the same studio that they were, that

(27:26):
they were working in these rehearsal studios and getting ready
to go out on tour and getting ready to do things,
and that that's just like a regular day for these guys.
You know, you go in there, we're like, okay, let's
tune it up, let's see what's going on. It's no
different than when you watch when you watch people playing
professional sports, when you're watching people getting out there and

(27:47):
and you're spending time with them or seeing them or
that sort of stuff. That's that's one of the things
that I think is is particularly cool all the way around.
So we're gonna come up in this next hour. I'm
gonna break down a couple other big stories that are
that are very very important, and we certainly want your
your feedback if you want to, if you want to
remember Ozzie, you can do it. If you don't want to,

(28:08):
it's totally cool. We'll continue with the politics, We'll continue
with the culture. We'll continue with the convo News Talk

(28:36):
eleven ten, not in I'm three WBT. It's the Brett
wintervill Show. Seven o four five seven oh eleven ten.
Everything is fair game. Somebody asked me about the treason
and Obama and all that stuff. I will be addressing, uh,
some of that conversation as well. It is great to
be with you. Seven oh four five seven oh eleven
ten is the telephone number, and pretty much everything is

(28:56):
fair game. I'm not going to do very muchly zero
of the Hunter Biden interview because I think Pete did
an incredible job unpacking all of that stuff, and uh,
I think he really summed it up in a beautiful way,
and you can go and listen to it on the
podcast and and hear all the all the content across
those hours. Uh. I think it's really really uh important

(29:19):
to hear what these people were thinking. I will say
one thing. There was one pull that I would have
looked at, and it was just it's a very minor
thing in which Donald Trump was probably laughing his butt
off watching Joe Biden get nuked by Nancy Pelosi. And
then Nancy Pelosi pretended that she didn't she would, well,

(29:42):
I didn't. I don't know. I don't know what we're doing.
I don't know how it's gonna go. I thought that
was I thought that was something that was that was
kind of interesting. But but what really bothers me all
the cursing and the cuss words and the F bombs
and and all that sort of stuff. It just it
does and I don't know how that advances the narrative.

(30:03):
And I salute Pete for cutting that stuff up, because
you know it's you understand that sometimes you're gonna get
it to this or that, but this was like whoa
every other word, My gosh, let me give you something
a little different. Though, do you guys know who Jeff
Daniels is. Anybody familiar with Jeff Daniels Dumb and dumber?

(30:26):
I think he was the dumb and the other guy
was the dumber Jeff Daniels, Jeff Daniels, dumb and dumber. No, no,
no recollection, no recollection at all. I remember. I just
think he was the dumber one. So he was the
dumber one. Okay, so he's the dumber one. Yes, okay,
so not the dumb he's the dumber correct. Well, wait

(30:48):
till you hear this. You're kind of a historian, you're
kind of a history buff. Many people are in this audience.
You tell me if you could spot the weird take
cut twelve.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
Please, the clampse of the Republican Party taking a knee.
You know, I still think about Kamala and how I
think she would have been a good choice. I don't
care what they say, because she would have done what

(31:18):
Lincoln did. Liz Cheney would have been Secretary of State. Yeah,
team of arrivals. Doris Kerns, a good one, wrote the
book about it. Le's what Lincoln did. Surrounded himself with
the people who would disagree with him, not the people
who would, you know, take a knee and go yeah, more,
tariffs are more. It's the madness of King George and

(31:41):
If and just the deterioration of the Republican Party. I mean, look,
I'm just an actor. What do I know. But when
Mitch started stacking the courts twenty five years ago, I
said it on your show once it's they can see
it coming, the new America that is diverse and treats

(32:03):
everyone with equality and respect and dignity, you know, kind
of like Jesus did. We're ready for that. And Mitch
and company could see it coming. They were going to
be the minority, so they just started and then here
we are, and now you got it. And now you're

(32:24):
losing money. I hope you're losing tons of money, those
of you who thought this would be okay. My question
is what are you guys going to do about it?

Speaker 1 (32:32):
I mean, Michigan Medivord Trump this time again, I think right.
I mean, the tariffs are going to hurt your neighbors.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
They're going to hurt which I think at the end
of the day, that's what's going to do it. You
just got to go wait a minute, and the grocery
bill is what one hundred and eighty bucks more. Yeah,
I can't get that car that we have to have
unless I pay another eight grand.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
What can I just point something out to you. I
just want you to know this because I think this
is important. That's Jeff Daniels, right. He starred with Jim
Carrey in Dumb and Dumber. He's worth forty five million dollars.

(33:14):
And I can tell you with your biblical certitude that
Nicole Wallace makes a ton of money and she's famous.
I remember the moment where I finally understood what was
happening to you and to me and to us in

(33:35):
this country, and it was it was actually a comment
made by Tucker Carlson. I cannot I'm not going to
take any kind of I'm not going to take any
kind of personal credit. He said this first, and he
said this early. He said, this is the first time
in American history that the people who are rich liberals

(34:08):
are going to war against the working class. And that's
what Jeff Daniels just did.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
I hope you guys. I hope you. You can't afford
to buy a car, you can't afford to buy groceries.
I hope you guys. You know you can't do any
of that.

Speaker 6 (34:26):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
This is the first revolution by the wealthy attacking the
working class. Do you doubt me? Twenty seven million illegals
came into the country, shepherded by the President of the
United States like Moses going, come on, follow me. This

(34:51):
is where we're gonna really stick it to the working class.
Tell me, tell me where do these people who can
amen illegally? Where did they get their electrical knowledge? Where
did they get their plumbing knowledge? Where did they get
their gas knowledge? Where do they get any of that stuff?

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Oh what?

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Oh? Yeah, I told I trained down to mitcha wa
kan as as as a person who could do you
know electrical? Really can see your can we see your certification?
Did you take the test? You know, silly, awful working
class people, white people, black people, Hispanic people who are

(35:33):
Americans have to go and take the test and certify
and prove that they know what they're doing. But not
for Joe Biden, not for not for you know, I
couldn't believe Hunter Biden just just hammering you people. It's disgusting.
This is a multi millionaire who blew all of his

(35:55):
money on blow and he's telling you you're bad because
you want somebody who's certified to do your plumbing, to
do the gas, to do with the electric, to build
the house, to understand that this is how we do
these things. No, No, that's what Tucker Carlson was talking about.
He was saying, this is the first revolution in which

(36:18):
the rich are punishing the average American. That has never happened.
Why do you think all the psychotics are going to
the Ivy Leagues because they're lunatics, but their mom and
dad sends them there and they write big checks and

(36:39):
they look their noses down at you. If you have
any ability at all to prevent your child from going
to the Ivy Leagues, you should exercise it. Should exercise
it because it is a factory of foe, not the
delicious soup that you get at the restaurant. Foe fa

(37:02):
u X. Fox News Talk eleven ten, note nine to three. WBT,
it's the Brett Waterbule Show. Good to be with you, guys.
Let's see what we have here. It is sad with

(37:25):
that warpigs is still relevant. That's a really good take.
I like that one. What else have we got coming in?
By the way, you can comment on the phone seven
oh four five, seven oh eleven ten or at the
WBT text line driven by Liberty Buick GMC. This one
comes in as well. Here. Okay, this is a request,
you know, this is one of those kinds of things. Here,

(37:46):
Isaac Hey, today you should be playing all Ozzy Sabbath
bumpers in memory of his passing. We have been playing.
We've been playing a whole ton of Ozzie numbers. We'll
play a little bit out of the old the old school,
no doubt about that. Let's see what have I got here?
We have don't forget the pull ups community. That's a

(38:11):
good point, that's right. I'm finding your show to be
quite irrelevant today. Well, I'm really sorry about that. And
you guess he was dumb and dumber. And if the
rich are really warring against the working class, they have
to remember they are rich because we make their stuff

(38:32):
and buy it. And if they have ever seen the
movie Fight Club, that can happen. That's a that's an
interesting take I'm giving you. I'll give you two out
of the four. Okay, I think I think the two
out of the four. And I'm being generous because I'm
in a giving mood today.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
I'm just an actor. What do I know?

Speaker 1 (38:50):
I know who knows? Hey, Brett, These rich Dems love
to proclaim they want things to be the way Jesus
would want them to be, but would never give up
their wealth to fight him the way he called his
disciples to do. Well, that it is true, and I'm
I'm and I'm also trying to still figure out where
is it in the Good Book that like abortion. I mean,

(39:12):
I don't know. I mean, it's just the kind of
stuff is out there. Seven oh four, five, seven eleven ten.
Taking your comments, like I said on the phones, and
as well, by the way, I just checked in with
the with my auditor, and no, there is nothing irrelevant
to the program today except well, he did say to
me there was a car, there was somebody who was

(39:34):
trying to throw a little shade on the program. And unfortunately,
you know, it's just that that's not that's not that's
not the way we run. That's what I like about here.
You know, this is one of the things that I
really enjoy. Now going back to the Julainne Maxwell story,
don't worry, I'm going to go back to the trees
in this Obama story. Here in a minute, Justice Department

(39:55):
reaches out to Julayne Maxwell, a long time Epstein associate.
I would call him more than an associate, wasn't she
sort of like his girlfriend? The latest effort by Trump's
subordinates is intended to quell a political crisis precipitated by
the department's announcement that it would not release more files
related to the Epstein investigation. Top Justice officials have contacted

(40:20):
lawyers representing Jelaane Maxwell, a long time associate of Jeffrey Epstein,
who is serving a prison term for sex trafficking, to
address lingering questions about the case that have fueled furious
right wing backlash. I don't think it's furious right wing backlash.
I would you say it's backlash. I don't think it's

(40:41):
furious right wing backlash. I mean it may be in
some corners, like you know QAnon. But Todd Blanche, the
Deputy Attorney General, announced on social media early Tuesday, that's today,
that he had requested a meeting with the disgraced former socialite,
mister Epstein's loyal co conspirator and enabler, who is also

(41:05):
interacted with the powerful men who he courted, including Donald
Trump quote. I have communicated with counsel for Ms Maxwell
to determine whether she would be willing to speak with
prosecutors from the Justice Department, mister Blanche wrote in a
statement on social media, stoking alarm among mister Epstein's victims

(41:28):
and their families. Now, wait a minute. Okay, so you
want to hear from them, but then you don't want
to hear from him. What is this? You have to
make a decision. If Julane Maxwell has information about anyone
who has committed crimes against victims, the FBI and the
DOJ will hear what he has to say what she
has to say. He wrote, Ms Maxwell's first name was

(41:51):
apparently misspelled. Okay, we'll take that down for advisement. The
announcement came hours before a major committee in the Republican
controlled House voted to subpoena Ms Maxwell, and days after
The Wall Street Journal reported that Trump sent mister Epstein

(42:11):
a salacious birthday greeting in two thousand and three in
which he expressed close friendship. Hum, that's that's interesting. Oh okay, wait,
I'm getting a clarification. The irrelevant comment was sent three
hours ago to Pete I don't think Pete deserved to

(42:33):
be told about that. I mean, that's just that's a
tough thing. That's a tough thing all the way around.
I mean when you when you when you really think
about this, you know, I mean, that's that's that's one
of the deals that that that happens, you know, in
a in a variety of different ways. When we come back,
I'm gonna grab a couple of calls. I'm also going
to take a little bit of time to break down

(42:57):
one of the parts of this story that I think
is a particularly interesting And by the way, when since
when did Fox News contributors started savaging Toulci Gabbard in
scathing op eds? What is that about? What is going on? Wait?
Why are they Why are they going after her? I

(43:19):
don't know, I don't get Oh it's Andrew McCarthy, okay man,
Maybe maybe he's just a little bit uncertain of the
direction that this is going to go. News Talk eleven

(43:45):
to ten, not a nine to three WVT Brettooeble Show.
Fox News contributors savages Toulci Gabbard and a scathing op ed.
You know who it was? It was Andy McCarthy. Andy
McCarthy took issue Monday with the Director of National Intelligence's
claims that Old Obama's team engaged in a quote treasonous
conspiracy after the twenty sixteen election to fabricate claims of

(44:08):
Russian election meddling in order to damage Trump's presidency. McCarthy
began by commenting that there's good reason to wonder whether
Gabbard speaks with other intelligence officials in the Trump administration
or even reads CIA reports, because when it comes to
the agency's findings on Russian interference, no new light is

(44:31):
shed on this episode by Gabbard's email disclosures. Gabbard's posts,
he added, were unsurprisingly accompanied by an overwrought and misleading
press release rather than an analytical report. Well, I mean
the reports have all been written. Maybe maybe there's still

(44:52):
some more stuff to find out about. Perhaps that's because
Gabbard's intelligence community peer see the IA director John Radcliffe
did issue an analytical report just a few days earlier
that contradicts Gabbard's implication that there's no evidence of Russian
interference in the twenty sixteen election, continued the Fox News contributor,

(45:18):
So we've got this guy spatting with him all right,
but the DNI is going to be the person that's
going to be the person that's responsible for susten this out.
As they say, Richard, welcome to the program. What's on
your mind? Richard? All right, that was good, Thank you
very much. Jim, welcome to the program.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
Wow, what the mole was that?

Speaker 1 (45:43):
I have no idea what that was. It was a
whirlwind of some sort of a thing. What's going on?

Speaker 4 (45:49):
Sounds like he was watching cartoons and Nickelodeon or something.
But anyway, Yes, he that's trying to get rid of
the DNI. They're trying to do undermind her and a discreditor.
That's right, because she's on the right track. Yeah. But
I wasn't going to leave you alone today. I didn't
want to bother you. But on the news of finding
out that the Prince of Darkness has fallen, I had

(46:13):
to call in and finally remember everything that he's done.
He's like a brother to me. In fact, we are
actually the same age.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Is that really true? No? No, really, you guys are
the same. Seventy six.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
Yep, I'm sixty six, that's right, he said.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
No, I said seventy six, he's seven. He was seventy
six six he was seventy six.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Oh, I'm sorry, Well that's okay, any ray. He was
Tony Iomi's neighbor and the band was always having practice
and their singer didn't show up and their singer had
a PA, and I guess the singer ultimately quit and
even though he couldn't sing a lick, they let him

(47:00):
be the singer as long as he bought his own PA.
He had to buy a PA for the band, and
just by sheer force of talent, he was able to
close ranks with the the guys in the band and
make the sound that the that they have. You know,
people don't realize the vocal styling that he has. He

(47:21):
has a high octave attack and it's in a minor
register and it really takes some talent to find those notes.
When he actually did it in short term and brought
a lot of things to the table, a lot of
lyrics and stuff that propelled them to you know, to
uh where they are today.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Wow, Well, I mean there you go. And and that's
that's back when you know, you didn't have all the
technology of today where things can be tweaked and handled
and and and done done all that. Well, I mean,
that's that's that's a big deal.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
He will tell you himself that it was just sheer
determination to get out of Birmingham like everybody else.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Well, well, sure, I mean that's that. Look that that
is uh, that's the motivation you get when you say,
do I want to stay here for the rest of
my life or do I want to go chase my
uh my my dream? You know. I mean, that's that's
that's the everybody who succeeds has to get to a
place where they say, you know what, I need to

(48:22):
do this. Whatever the reasoning is, it's I need to
do this. I am I am bothered by not doing this.
I want to do this. I want to uh reach
ahead and see if I can, you know, measure up
to other people. And I think that's it's very much
a competitive, uh sort of a game. But at the

(48:44):
same time, there's no guarantee. You are putting all of
your hopes and dreams in the hands of total strangers,
and you have to hope that it's gonna just click
the right way or you're just never gonna be heard
from it.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
Yeah, but the opportunity that America provided, of course, see
the fact that it was there, it was on the horizon,
it was out there. Gave them enough motivation and ambition
to realize their dream. And this is exactly what people
like Gavin Newsoman and Karen Bass and Nancy Pelosi are
trying to snuff out. They want to make all the

(49:23):
opportunities for them. Yes, but they want you to see
a bleak, dark horizon and just to sit there and
with no hope. And is guys like Ozzie that looked
at that little fish, is that little gleam of sunlight
coming through and said I'm.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Going for it right. Absolutely great stuff, Jim. I appreciate
the call today, my friend. Thank you very much. How
you as well. Absolutely News Talk eleven ten nine three WBT,
it's the Brett Winterble Show. Great to be with you,
and it is a pleasure to have Bo Thompson back

(50:01):
spending time with us here today. From Good Morning BT,
Bo Thompson. Great to be with you, my friend.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
What's going on, Brad?

Speaker 1 (50:07):
It's been a minute, Yes it has. It's your ass
and it's good to be getting back together and spend
the time and talking about all this all the interesting
stuff that's happening around here. I have a question for
you when when we look back at this interview that
was conducted by the influencer and of course what we

(50:29):
saw coming from mister Biden, the younger mister Biden. You know,
this is a This is a difficult sort of a
pathway to march because it's one thing when you have
a conventional interview that you're doing and you're asking questions
and they're giving you answers and that sort of stuff.
It bothers me greatly, the the cursing and the swearing,

(50:53):
because it just makes it very difficult to play that
sort of stuff on the air. How do you come
about a pro coaching this bottle? Because I got to
tell you something, I made a decision, an executive decision
on my show that I was not going to play
it because if you cannot express yourself without exploitives, I
think it's kind of a killer. I mean, I understand

(51:15):
once in a while someone's gonna throw this or that,
but just the idea of playing the bleeps, I mean,
I think you're just going to cause people to be uninterested.
What about you? What do you think about that?

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Well, look, I cut my teeth in this business in
a production room and I was an imager and a
producer and a editor and all that stuff long before
I ever started talking behind the microphone, so that still,
you know, bleeds over into what I do for the
show I'm on now. I still edit on my own

(51:49):
audio and put stuff together every morning because I want to,
and I still enjoy that. But it's funny you say that,
because I was talking to Beth this morning when I
came in and I said, just see the Hunter Pyden interview,
and I said, I sat now to start, you know,
preparing at least a piece of that so we could
talk about it and sort of react to it, and
I gave up. I'm like, I write it just too much. Uh,

(52:10):
there're too many spots where I'm gonna have to I mean,
it's basically gonna be just one long beak.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Yes, yes, and look, and there's there's real I mean,
there's obviously material inside that interview, but I do feel
like the bleeping and all that stuff, or the beeping,
uh is a problem. But gosh, I got to say something.
Pete Calendar's a hero because it seems to me that
I think he got almost every single bit of it out,

(52:36):
and uh, you know, it's just one of those things
you know when you when you when you go in
there and you say because also at the same time,
you know, people are driving around, especially your your day part.
You know, you got people driving around with their kids
in the car and doing things, and I'm doing that
sort of thing in the afternoon. You know, it's a
it's a it's a big challenge all the way around.
And it's unfortunate because there were there were things in

(52:57):
there that I thought were kind of interesting, but it
just it was such a such a bear to to
try to get this thing cleaned out.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Yeah, I mean it became a thing talk about what
he said or paraphrase rather than naturally show you the
real thing. And you know, I'm a big fan of
when you can, uh, you know, go straight to the source.
But I as I was watching that, I'm thinking, as
I'm watching it, okay, thinking about the reaction to it.

(53:27):
And it's one of those things where I don't care
which side of the all you're on, his dad's or
the other. He's just you know, throwing verbal bombs left
and right, and it's just one of those interviews where
I don't know how that helped anybody from from what
he was trying to do when he set out. I

(53:48):
just that was just a bizarre uh. And it wasn't short.
It was it was maybe, you know, we should climb
up the number of F bombs there. That's gotta be
some homewhere and there a record for something like that.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Three hour two or you know. I mean, secondly, very quickly,
I want to applaud you. You did a tremendous interview
with Tom Tillis, and I thought it was so insightful
and so smart and great stuff. And I and I
hadn't had the chance to get to spend time with you,
uh in that intervening period, but I just wanted to

(54:20):
give you a big, a big thumbs up for that interview.
I thought that was really revelatory.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Well, I mean we were the first, uh we happened
to be the first radio interview that he did since uh,
since this all happened. So there were a lot of
questions that were just obvious waiting to hear there. And luckily,
you know, you get interviews like that every once in
a while. But I thought it was I thought we
learned some things in that interview, of course, about what

(54:47):
was you know, sort of breaking at the moment with
the the Epstein files. But I still think it's very
interesting what he said about Laura Trump and you know
how that's gonna. I wasn't sure whether he would talk
about what the field was going to be now that
he pulled himself out of it, but he had he was,
you know, did im minse words about how he thinks
that the possible field could line up there. I mean,

(55:10):
Laura Trump has been mentioned. He talks about Mark Robinson
a lot these days, and there have some other names
in there. We talked to Don Brown the day after that,
but I appreciated the fact that he came and answered
everything we threw at him, because it had been a
while and he'd been the most talked about guy in
the country there for a stretch, so I was. I
was happy to have him on when we had him,

(55:30):
and he's he's always been good about coming on with this.
So thanks for what you said. That was, you know,
a timely interview for a lot of reasons.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Yeah, I know, really great stuff. All right, So what
have you got planned for the big tomorrow show? What's
happening there? My friend?

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Well, you know, Ozzy Osbourne, man, that's that's gonna be
a huge story. I know you guys have been talking
about that. I was just thinking this afternoon, I'll never
forget being in great school and hearing about this dude
in Iowa who bit the head of a bat officer
in the concert. And that's before I ever heard anything
that he that he's saying. I just remember to hear
that story, and then you said, Okay, now I have

(56:03):
to hear this guy. And then as a wrestling fan
as a kid, you know, the first time that I
ever heard iron Man was when the Legion of Doom
the Road Wars were came worn out of the back.
So that was the first time I heard Ozzy sing something.
And then that of course led me to so we
have two days in a row here Ozzy Osbourne today
and then for kids who grew up watching The Cosby Show,
you know, Malcolm Paul Warner yesterday. So we'll talk about

(56:26):
those items. Here's one final cool thing tomorrow. Those people
who listen to my show for many, many years, back
to the early days when I was solo, I used
to have a guy named Tom Blocker who is our
longtime car expert. He would come on with me once
a week he's going to come in for the final
hour of the show tomorrow and talk cars. And I'm
especially excited now that we have this text line so
people can easily ask him questions. That'll be nine to ten.

(56:49):
I'll be solo the next three days because Best on vacation.
So a lot's going on tomorrow, politics and all and
the loss of the of the of the the one
and all the Ozzy Osbourne. So we'll get it and
at six.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
O'clock Absolutely News Talk eleven ten now and I'm three WBT.
We'll talk to you tomorrow.

Speaker 7 (57:08):
Radio has changed our lives and they changed our lives.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Radio has changed our lives. They changed our lives.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Radio changed our lives, our lives.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
I want to tell you about radio News Talk eleven
ten now and I'm three WBT Brett Waable Show. Good
to be with you. I think that I do think
that Ozzie would approve of Rob Zombie being a part
of the whole, the whole celebration of life. And you know,
that was really an incredible concert that they put on,

(57:48):
and it was really great that they were able to
put that concert on with him there, understanding how much
respect he had as a as an entertainer, and that's
a that's a great thing if you're if you're batting
that way, it's it's a great way to go. It's
a great way to go because you've seen how much
the people appreciated the hard work that you do. You know,

(58:09):
there's a lot of people who are still out there
trying to entertain folks and and and get things done
and all that sort of stuff. But you know what it's.
It's it's when you're in superstar status. That's a that's
a big deal all the way around. I'm gonna give
you my nomination for a superstar right now. My nomination
for a superstar right now is Scott Besant, the Treasury Secretary.

(58:32):
He pulled the hand grenade pin uh on something that
I think there's a group of people in this audience
we're gonna be happy about this. So let's just listen
to this interview. Uh this this question and answer coming
from Maria Barto Romo, and check in on Scott Besant

(58:55):
and going there when you thought he might not go there,
but he he's going there. How about auditing the f
E D spells FED go.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
To be clear, I am calling for an internal review
an internal review, and I think that this could be j.
Powell's legacy that the FED since the Great Financial Crisis
has had what I call gain a function monetary policy,
and the expenses have gone up a lot. The Federal

(59:30):
Reserve Board expenses since two thousand and four are up
four x four X. I can tell you at Treasury
we've cut our expenses about seventeen percent last year. So
I think that this is a chance the FED does
a regular review of their monetary policy framework. I think

(59:52):
that this is a good, good opportunity for Chair Powell's
legacy to do an internal review of all the FED
operations away from the monetary policy punction.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
I think ye.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
I was going to say, you know, the monetary policy
is we should keep that off to the side, that
that should be kind of like in a jewel box
and protected. But everything else that the FED has started,
has done over the years has just grown and grown
and grown. And this is what happens when you don't

(01:00:30):
have oversight. You know, they aren't subject to appropriations. They
either use the money they make. Right now, they're losing
about one hundred billion a years, so they just print
money to spend it. And I think A thorough review
should be done. It can be done, and I have
confidence in share Pell that if he were to do this,

(01:00:53):
we could right side the non right size the non
monetary functions of the FED and it back down like
the the FED shouldn't We're always talking about the FED.
This the FED, that monetary policy should run in the
background on behalf of the American people.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Yeah, okay, hold on a second, We're gonna just audit
this part of the FED, not the total Fed. Why
are we not auditing all of the Fed? Why are
we not doing that? Because he's basically saying, we'll do
it the internal stuff over a year, but we're not
gonna audit the entire, huge, big thing that's over there.

(01:01:33):
We can't do that. That would cause uh consternation? What what? What? What?
What is the problem? Seriously, And I'll take I'll take
exactly three calls seven o four five, seven eleven ten.
Do you want the FED to be audited? Not just
the operations but the FED itself? You know, I'm old

(01:01:53):
enough to remember, and I hate to you know, I
hate to be one of these people who's going to
be a bugaboo, But let me just say this. I
remember I remember when Scott Bessened and Donald Trump were
talking openly about going to that very magical place. Do
you remember, do you remember, Isaac, do you remember the
magical place that they were gonna go? Do you remember?

(01:02:16):
It's all lost to history. You don't remember. You don't remember. Yeah,
you don't even remember. Do you remember any of you
remember where President Trump said he was gonna go. He
was gonna go there with Elon Musk back in the day,
back in the day, back in the day they said,
they said they were gonna go to Fort Knox and
see if the gold was there and how much gold
was there. That thing just disappeared. And I'm not trying

(01:02:39):
to be a bugaboo, but the fact of the matter
is you gotta wonder about this. What is that? What
does that mean? What does that mean? I mean, we
don't we haven't. We don't know. We don't know what's
going on here. And time and time again, we have
been told we cannot audit the FED. Why can we
not audit the FED? Is it not part of the government. Okay, No,

(01:03:00):
it's a private system. It's a private system that is
quasi in training. I mean, this is all this kind
of stuff that goes on here, folks. Now, look, I
understand the Fed's financial statements are audited annually by independent
accounting firms like KPMG. Okay, I understand that, but I
want to see every what the books opened here. I'll

(01:03:23):
take this Stall Jr. Go ahead, please, Yeah, you just said.

Speaker 6 (01:03:28):
What I was generated to say. The KPMG has been
auditing feed for X number of years.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (01:03:35):
They also have over well over two hundred million dollars
in federal contracts annually. And I think you could ply
a lot of pressure to KPMG to bring the books
in And if one taxpayer dime is being spent on
the federal reserve, including this overspent boondoggles the headquarters renovation, yep,

(01:03:59):
then we have the fransparency and full disclosure.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Right on, right on. Because they're building a two and
a half billion billion with a B of A facility.
Is what are they got going on in there? What's
happening in there? It doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
That's that?

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
That seems atrocious to me?

Speaker 6 (01:04:20):
Well, the yeah, I mean, And the problem was I
think Trump signed off on the final order on it
in twenty seventeen, but it was supposed to be like
a one and a half ballion. I think it's a
billion dollar overrun. When's the last time you seen a
federal contract that ever came in under the original bit?

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Never, it doesn't happen. It never, it never, it's never.
You've got so much fat built into the deal that
you know, even if you cut it out, you're still
not going to get you know, any kind of a
of a of a dollar to go back. And that's
the problem. But I'm glad you called. Thank you very much,
Jay Or. It's always great to talk to you, my friend.
I mean, that's that's the thing. This is the problem, right,

(01:05:02):
there's all this stuff that people are mad about, right
Barack Obama and Tulsi Gabbard and all the stuff that's
going on, trying to look back with what happened with
the with the coupd aeta, and that was a coupd ata,
that was an absolute coupd aeta and it has to
be investigated. And people need to be standing tall before

(01:05:23):
the man. You know what I'm saying. That's the problem.
Nobody ever gets brought out except low level people. Oh
I'm sorry, it was terrible. It's you think struck in
page we're the only people that were playing the game.
No way. We have to demand And I'm gonna say

(01:05:44):
something here, and I mean this. If you are found
to have violated the rights, or you have violated the
codes or any of this sort of stuff, you must
have your for it here. You must have your pension stripped, stripped,

(01:06:07):
and you need to be fired, and you need to pay,
you know, pay back into the system. There is no
higher thing to do than to follow the rules in DC.
And if you're out there freelance and that's a problem.

(01:06:39):
News Talk eleven, ten ninety nine to three WBT. It
is the Brett Winterable Show. Oh wow, if you're feeling
a little bit out of sorts, can I just tell
you something here? This is crazy? Why is it all
happening now? Why is it all happening now? Okay, here goes.

(01:07:00):
Earth is spinning faster, leading timekeepers to consider an unprecedented
mood move. Yeah, well, the people who keep the time.
Earth is spinning faster this summer, making days marginally shorter

(01:07:20):
and attracting the attention of scientists and timekeepers. Are you
a scientist or a timekeeper? I think I'm I think,
I'm I'm I would be a scientist, not a timekeeper.
I'm gonna go ahead and lock in neither. You're neither
a timekeeper nor a scientist, correct, So you're just you're
opting out, opting out, dude. Okay, July tenth was the

(01:07:43):
shortest day of the year. What I thought the summer
was longer. I thought, if they go stretch it out,
now it's all compressed. July tenth was the shortest day
of the year so far. Are you ready for the
ISAAC is going to freak out about this? Do you know?

(01:08:06):
It lasted one point three six milliseconds less than twenty
four hours?

Speaker 7 (01:08:11):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Okay? I read it again. Okay, it meant that it was.
It lasted one point three six milliseconds less than twenty
four hours, according to data from the International Earth Rotation
and Reference Systems Service and the US Naval Observatory. Can

(01:08:35):
I just say something about the US Naval Observatory. Yep, Okay.
You guys are like in the business of water. Like
you're the Navy. Why wouldn't the Air Force be in
charge of the rotational You're you're at You're wavy, You're
at the waves. You're the frogmen, you're the seals the

(01:08:59):
Air Force should be in charge or Space Force should
be in charge.

Speaker 7 (01:09:03):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Why is the Navy in charge at the observatory? I
mean maybe it was great once upon a time. John
Paul Jones, not the guy from led Zeppelin, but the
original John Paul Jones. I have not yet begun to fight,
you know, I mean within a thousand years we're gonna lose.
Like almost understand, we're probably going. Yes, this is dangerous.

(01:09:29):
You're playing with the Earth climate change. Could it be
climate change? Maybe the length of a day is the
time it takes for the planet to complete one full
rotation on its axis. Hey, get off your axis and
get to work. No, twenty four hours. Okay, here's your choice.

(01:09:52):
I'm giving you, Isaac. I'm giving you twenty four hours
or eighty six four hundred seconds. What are you taking?
I'm taking the seconds, So you're taking the eighty six thousand,
four hundred seconds and a pick to be determined later. Yes, okay, good,
send them to send them to Cincinnati. There we go.
But in reality, each rotation is slightly irregular, kind of

(01:10:16):
like when you eat too much meat, due to a
variety of factors. They have factors you know what, you're
ready for the factors. It's always the factors that get
in the way. Okay, your mileage may vary based on
your factors. You know all that, all right. There's a
variety of factors including, oh, this is bonkers. The gravitational

(01:10:39):
pull of the moon. We're supposed to believe that the
moon is able to pull the Earth. Get out, stop it,
pishtash a merr bag of shells, that's what they said
in Shakespeare. Seasonal changes in the atmosphere, and the influence
of the Earth's liquid core. How's your liquid core? Are

(01:11:02):
you feeling it today? Or a little bit? Are you
a little bit toasty? Unstable?

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Really?

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
How many of them did you drink? How many of them?
What do you call it them? Chelchiesses? Fifteen? You had
fifteen of them? No, you didn't. You'd be exploding right now. Okay. So,
such as the gravitational pull.

Speaker 7 (01:11:20):
Of the moon.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
I don't like the moon mooning us, seasonal changes in
the atmosphere, and the influence of Earth's liquid core. I
thought it was all gold in there. As a result,
a full rotation takes slightly less or slightly more than
eighty six four hundred seconds. See, this is how you

(01:11:43):
lower the standards. You lower the standards so everybody's able
to do this, that's no good. They should they should
scrap it out. Be like listen, that was eighty seven
thousand gone. That doesn't exist. We have to be eighty
six four hundred. So you're saying I can show up

(01:12:03):
for work later. You could try a discrepancy of just milliseconds, Isaac.
That doesn't have any obvious effect on everyday life. I
have no idea what's happening here. There's a lot going

(01:12:37):
on out there, Robert, Welcome to the program. What's on
your mind today, sir.

Speaker 7 (01:12:45):
Good afternoon. Brett and Isaac bring it every single night.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Baby, Isaac bring brings almost all of it. Yes, absolutely,
this is.

Speaker 7 (01:12:54):
By the way, when I told him that a minute ago,
he did not hesitate for a second to agree with me.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
How that's good. Look, that's important, and he's building it up.
This is this is good stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:13:07):
Well, gentlemen, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Sir, Brett.

Speaker 7 (01:13:10):
I thought it was very interesting that you brought up
a couple of political savants earlier in historical history, savants
like Victor Davis Anson and Carl Rove, who can basically
have very close to encyclopedic.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Memories, yes, and can bring.

Speaker 7 (01:13:28):
Up details in minutia on so many subjects. Another person
who can do that is Kelly and Conway. Kelly and
Conway can talk for fifteen minutes, yes, without taking without
taking a breath, on almost any political subject. And I'm
just wondering, Brett with your I mean, you have a

(01:13:49):
tremendous amount of political knowledge. Who on the left are
the savants?

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Well, I'm gonn so I'm gonna make people are gonna
get mad if I if I if I elebrate people
who are over on the left, I mean, I think
that's I think that's a. I think that's a that's
a that's a tough thing to to look at. I
would say, wow, because you you've You've caused me to

(01:14:14):
have to think about Uh, you.

Speaker 7 (01:14:18):
Know, Brett, if I may, I've been thinking about that, sure,
go ahead, I was on hold. So I've been thinking
about it. I mean, you could maybe say David Axelrod,
you could maybe say James Carville. By the way, of course,
our our genius hunter. Uh, just just savage. Both those
guys who are so much smarter than than he is

(01:14:39):
and so much more accomplished than he is.

Speaker 6 (01:14:43):
But I maybe.

Speaker 7 (01:14:45):
It goes to the left, uh, being more emotionally based,
whereas the right tends to be more logically and maybe
even intellectually based.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
Well, okay, so if I'm looking at people who are
on now that you've it that way, when I'm looking
at people who are on the left, I would say
that that Carvel, Carvil and Bagala are both really smart
guys when it comes to their brand of politicking. Okay,
I think I think that's a fair I think that's

(01:15:16):
a fair point. I think when when you think about Meechim,
Meecham is a very smart guy. He's a historian. I
think Barry Diller, who's much more in the entertainment end
of things, but certainly he's of he's of the the left.
I think he's somebody who understands, uh, those those sorts

(01:15:38):
of things. Look, when I wake up in the morning,
I get a I've said this before, but I get
it very early. And I like to watch as much
content as I can between five o'clock in the morning
at five am to seven am, all right, because you're
seeing what what's being formed as the narrative of the day,

(01:15:59):
and and there are people, you know, I will watch
Morning Joe, I will watch CNN, I will watch Bloomberg consistently. Right,
I will look at these things to see what they're
talking about, because if I don't know what they're talking about,
then I'm not connected in any way to what they
think about things. And so there are people that are
really smart. There are people that are very talented as tacticians, right,

(01:16:26):
just like you have people who are great head coaches,
and then you have the guys that are responsible for
the offense and the defense, and and you know, guys
who are great on offense are not necessarily good on
defense and vice versa, and the coach has to, you know,
put that all together at the same time. Now, I
would say, David Axelrod is somebody who got Barack Obama

(01:16:49):
elected basically out of nowhere. Okay, he got him in
the Senate and then he got him into the presidency
of the United States. That's a huge achievement. And he
got him reelected. Right. When you when you look at
a guy like him, you see a guy who is
a mechanic. He's sort of the guy that is Carl Rove.

(01:17:10):
In many ways, when you look at Carville and Begala.
They are people who understand the media landscape almost better
than anybody else on the left. They understand what resonates.
But I will also say, like Scott Jennings, who's a

(01:17:31):
Republican but a very smart strategist. He is, he is
very effective. Chuck roacha who's on the left. He is
somebody who's smart. He's a he's a popular he's a
populist kind of a guy. You see him on TV,
on CNN. He's usually wearing a cowboy hat and he's
got got some struff. So that's Chuck Roach. I mean,

(01:17:52):
he's a smart guy too. And so it depends you're
you're a genius if you get somebody elected to the presidency, right,
you're a failure if you don't win in the presidential
election to sweep stakes, so you know, I mean nobody. Look,
here's the question, who was running Hillary Clinton's campaign in

(01:18:12):
twenty sixteen. I can't remember the name of the person.
I don't know who it was. It doesn't come to me.
But there's a whole lot of other people that have
run that I'm familiar with. I'm familiar with, you know,
the certain mechanations that took place, especially in South Carolina
with Lee Atwater, right, that guy, that's a guy that

(01:18:34):
people should look at, not because you want to pattern him,
but that's a guy who was ready to throw everything
in and fight and do everything he had to do,
especially exploiting you know, racial divides and things like that. Again,
I'm not saying that that's a person you want to
model yourself after, but that is somebody who was able

(01:18:55):
to get George Bush elected to the presidency, but not
re elected on the back end against Clinton because he
was sick and he was dying. So these are all
the big challenges that are out there. I mean, it's
it's a very interesting thing. And I didn't mean to
ramble on on you there. Sorry about that, Robert, No, no, no.

Speaker 7 (01:19:15):
I find it fascinating. And in order to get re elected,
I would submit Brett that not only do you have
to have very talented advisors, you have to be very
talented yourself. And and by the way, regarding Hillary, Hillary
is a very smart person. And I think Hillary to
some extent or to a large extent, probably ran her
own campaign and I think she was capable of it

(01:19:38):
on the facts. Now, what if she was as needy
as savvy as she needed to be, and whether whether
she may have been a little bit too risk averse
there at the end when she could have closed the
deal and she didn't. And the only other two people
that I thought about while you were speaking, Brett, were
are Leon Panetta, who I think is very very smart,
but he's he's been on the left side.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
Yeah, but he's not a he's not a k he's
not like a kuk leftist. He's he's a kind of
a moderate to left kind of a guy.

Speaker 7 (01:20:09):
Right. And and by the way, Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton
was and hopefully still is very very intelligent and could
speak at the drop of a hat on a whole
lot of subjects. Well, yeah, yeah, he can also connect
with people.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Yeah, well, and that was how he got elected, right,
he was. I feel your pain, you know, very easy
to understand sort of things. And none of the people
that you've just talked about and that I have just
talked about are anyway near at all. Uh you know,
with with with Zorhan Mandami, uh and and and the

(01:20:45):
crazy leftists that are taking over a political party and
hijacking it. I think into the right right into the
into oblivion. And I think that's a huge problem. The
moderates do not exist inside the Democratic Party right now?

Speaker 7 (01:20:59):
Correct, Yes, And if you listen to AOC and if
you listen to Mondonmie, and if you listen to Maxine Waters,
you will lose brain cells immediately.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
Well that's okay, possibly, but but you know what, none
of that is always the same. Thanks so much. I
always thought talking to you. Thanks so much, Robert, that
have a great night. There's talk eleven ten nine nine

(01:21:33):
three WBT. Okay. So final thought on the passing of
Ozzy Osmore is this, you have you have a very
interesting thing with that piece of music that you came
in with. Because when they had the big grand celebration
a couple of weeks ago, the band that played prior
to Ozzy was Metallica, And that is that is like

(01:21:55):
a huge That is like a huge thing for a
group of people who grew up wanting to be a
part of all that sort of stuff. One of the
things that I always fall back on is going back
to the time when I first started doing this show,
doing my show, and nobody was hearing it. Nobody heard

(01:22:20):
probably the first I would say four hundred shows that
I ever did, because I wanted to develop it, and
I wanted it to sound the way I wanted it
to sound, and I was trying to work through the
rough edges, and it's very You know, the challenge with
doing that is if you're gonna go out and be

(01:22:42):
a stand up comic, you can go to a comedy
club and do stand up comedy, but they may not
want to put you on. They may not want to
put you on because you're not going to bring in
anybody that's going to be spending money, right, and so
we have open mics. You do all that kind of stuff.
People that are in garage bands, people that are in
bands that are working trying to develop their sound and
their craft and all that sort of stuff. Eventually you

(01:23:05):
will you will succeed or you will fail. But you've
got to be ready for either side. And you've got
to be ready to kind of pivot and move around.
When you think about, you know, Ozzy Osbourne carrying around
that PA and spending time with Tony Iomi and Geezer
Butler and those guys, you think about what those guys did.
They were sitting in a in Birmingham, playing in a

(01:23:26):
garage and some of the music was okay, and some
of the stuff was awful. And so the thing that
you have to do is just take that first step.
The best advice I have for anybody out there is
to just do what you want to do. Just try it.
Do this, don't don't. The reason why you end up

(01:23:51):
failing is because your mind cannot create and edit at
the same time. That is the most important piece of
advice that I ever got from somebody. You cannot create
and edit at the same time. You have to create.
You have to have like what they call technically a

(01:24:14):
puke draft, like you're just putting everything on the paper,
and then once you do that, you go in and
you edit, and when you edit, you say, Okay, I'm
two verbose on this. I'm not talking right on that,
and I've got to figure that out. But only you
can figure that out. And then after you do a

(01:24:35):
whole bunch of those, you let somebody that you trust
hear it, and they tell you if it's good, or
they tell you if it stinks, and if they say
it stinks, take it under advisement and continue to do
what you're doing. All right. Coming up next Breaking Brett
Breaking with Brett Jensen and then of course, TJ Richie's

(01:24:55):
going to be behind him. I'm looking forward to talking
to you tomorrow News Talk eleven, ten, Don't nine three,
that'll be two
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