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October 9, 2025 • 98 mins

Tune in here to this Thursday's edition of the Brett Winterble Show! 

Brett kicks off the program by talking about the ongoing Israel-Hamas conflict and the potential breakthrough in the hostage crisis. He expresses optimism about what he sees as the United States returning to a position of global strength, particularly under Trump’s leadership. Brett outlines the devastating toll of the war from October 2023 to October 2025, including 67,000 deaths in Gaza and 2,000 in Israel, as well as mass displacement and widespread destruction. He highlights the brutality of the October 7th attack and the humanitarian crisis that followed. Emphasizing the importance of separating the warring parties, he frames the current developments as a strategic turning point. Brett draws historical comparisons, arguing that the U.S. is now reasserting itself in a way not seen since past administrations. He presents the unfolding situation as both dangerous and promising, with the possibility of a long-term solution finally beginning to take shape.

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Speaker 1 (00:26):
News Talk eleven nine three WBT. I'm Brett Witable. It's
a pleasure to be with you here today, with you
all the way up till six o'clock, well just before
six pm. It is. It's awesome to be with you.
I'm very excited because it looks like we are going
to see some sort of action at some point here

(00:47):
as it relates to the hostages that have been held
over in Hamasastan. And I am fundamentally of good mood,
good nature today because I think this is the start
of something that's very very important all the way around.
And I think when people start to look at and

(01:07):
think about the stakes of this fight, I think there
are a number of things that are very very important.
So what I want to do, just to kind of
set the table here is to take a look at
what it is that we're seeing. And what we are
seeing is the return of the United States of America
to the proper position that we haven't really had since

(01:29):
my God, I would say, Barack Hussein Obama and Joe
Hussein Biden, I would say since since really two thousand
and eight. Because President Trump back in his first term,
was trying to make the country stronger was trying to
get the border under control, stuff like that. But now

(01:51):
we are finally back where we belong. We are back
where we belong, up on top of the pinnacle driving policy.
And I got to tell you something. If you don't
think back to the point in time, honestly, here's what
I'll say. I'll say, this is probably the first time
that we're in serious position for anything since I'll go

(02:16):
I'll go all the way back to nine to eleven.
I will go all the way back to nine eleven,
because I don't think that George W. Bush was particularly
spectacular with his sidekick Dick Cheney back when we got
attacked on nine to eleven. And so I think we
are going way back. We are This might be a

(02:38):
direct lineage to the Reagan administration, the last Reagan administration,
maybe the old Bush administration as well. But if we
go back in time and we think about this, America
is in its proper place and we have the ability
to call the shots. From October the seventh, twenty twenty
three to October twenty twenty five, the Israel Hamas War

(02:58):
had resulted in sixty seven thousand deaths in Gaza, sixty
seven thousand deaths, two thousand deaths in Israel, massive humanitarian, military,
and economic costs, and the scale of destruction and displacement
is unprecedented in the region's history. The reason why it

(03:24):
is so so horrifying to look at this is because
nobody was steering the ship until Trump got in in
that second term. It is indisputable. If you don't want
to believe it, you can just go take a nap
and listen to the podcast, because I'm going to break
all this down for you so you'll understand exactly the
context that I'm talking about. The initial attack. On October

(03:46):
the seventh, twenty twenty three, Hamas launched a surprise attack
on southern Israel. Casualties twelve hundred Israelis killed, including nine
hundred civilians hostages two hundred and fifty taken into Gaza,
including women, children, and the elderly. That also happened the
weapons that were used. Twenty two hundred rockets were fired

(04:07):
into Israel. That's at the very beginning on the attack.
The Israeli military response was airstrikes and a ground defensive.
Over six thousand bombs were dropped on Gaza in the
initial months, targeted hospitals, schools, infrastructure, basically everything you would
want to try to target if you were really trying

(04:30):
to pulverize the enemy. So over the course of time,
you've got a number of sixty seven thousand Palestinians killed,
including twenty thousand children, averaging one child killed per hour
over twenty four months, injuries of over one hundred and
sixty nine thousand wounded with many life altering injuries, and

(04:52):
people who are missing. Eleven thousand casualties in Israel two thousand,
including nine hundred and thirteen IDF soldiers and injuries twenty
thousand IDF wounded. You have to understand that because Israel
is such a small country, that is a massive, outsized
sort of cost for the Israeli IDF. You have displacement

(05:19):
in Gaza of one point nine million displaced ninety percent
of the population it Israel. You had one hundred thousand
internally displaced, and of course you had a whole bunch
of his historic, horrible sort of people who had lost
their lives, including doctors and health and aid workers and

(05:40):
all of this. So I say this because I'm happy
that there is a pathway out of this fight. Now
I'm going to get calls today, and I know who
you are, and you're going to say it's not perfect,
it's not perfect. The Israelis suck, the Amas people are awesome.

(06:00):
We're gonna get all of that come in our way.
I understand that, and that's fine because I have responses
for all of that sort of stuff. But in the
hostage situation, this is something that is like really bad.
One hundred and forty hostages released via swaps or rescue.
Forty eight remain in Gaza, including twenty eight who have
been confirmed dead. Those people, those people had no business

(06:25):
being held as hostages. They should have been released. They
should have been released, And so for that, I hope,
I hope that this never happens again, because this is
a pure play against individuals who have nothing to do
with the warring factions. They're just people who are at

(06:47):
a music festival. And you see, and I would encourage you,
if you have the stomach for it, go back and
look at what that attack looked like in October, on
October the seventh, twenty twenty three, Go back, look at it,
Go look at the women getting pushed onto trailers and
trucks and all that. But anti Semites typically do not
want to look at it that way. They think of

(07:09):
it about something. It's like a weird thing, you know.
You get these you get these people who will call
the show and say, yeah, but they what, No, they
didn't deserve to be raped. They didn't deserve to be
murdered at a show. It wasn't anything that can be justifiable.
Tens of billions of dollars in military spending, reconstruction and

(07:32):
displacement support weapons, deployed tanks, drones, fighter jets, precision guided munitions,
and cyber warfare tools. When it came from Gaza. Infrastructure
damage estimated in the tens of billions, with entire neighborhoods flattened,
blockade intensified, cutting off fuel, cutting off water, cutting off electricity,

(07:53):
all of that stuff. All for that to mean what winnable?
This is the longest sustained is rarely military operation in
Gaza's history. Ongoing occupation and control over Gaza's borders, airspace,
and aid access ceasefires have been brief and fragile and

(08:13):
frighteningly intermittent. So what's happening now? The operation that is
happening now that Donald Trump brokered with the partners around
the Middle East is very easy to understand. This is
getting separation between these these two groups. This is what
is happening. This is a separation between the two groups.

(08:34):
I'll break it down for you as as we get
straight ahead. But there is a strategy here in place,
and I'm fascinated to go into the details of this.
I think there are some upside things, some dangerous things,
but I think ultimately this is about getting the two
combatant elements to be separated. News Talk eleven ten, nine,

(09:10):
nine to three WBT Brett Weterboll Show. I am. I
am cautiously optimistic about how this is all going to
come to pass. But let me just say this right
out of the right, out of the box. And that
is one thing that I think is very important. What
these two parties need to be is they need to
get separated from each other so that they can try

(09:33):
to figure out how they're going to exist. I think
that they're going to pull back assets into Israel itself,
and I don't know how much the Israelis are going
to want to be working with the folks over there
in the in the Hamas area. If all we have
to do and all we need to know about any
of this sort of stuff is to take a look

(09:56):
at at what the Egyptians did. The Egyptians never once ever,
ever ever opened the gates. Just remember that the Egyptians
did not get any sort of relief for the Palestinians,
for the Hamas efforts, all that sort of stuff. That

(10:17):
is the thing that people always overlook that the Egyptians
were like, yeah, Joe Biden was calling them up saying,
you got to let him in, you gotta let him in.
You got them let him in. And they were saying,
no way, no way, no way. We don't need this
in my uh, we don't need this in Egypt. Sorry,
too bad? How sad? I mean? That's it. That's that's what.
That's what the Egyptian said. And who is uh? Who

(10:41):
is it that has good relations with Israel in that region?
Does ambody know? Egypt? That's that's what was created with
Jimmy Carter back in nineteen what was it seventy eight
when you had peace between Israel and Egypt and the
Egyptians decided there we're not going to get involved with

(11:03):
Hamas because who is Hamas? This is a very important
thing to understand. Hamas received weapons and support primarily from Iran. Now,
they did utilize underground smuggling tunnels and you had that
sort of stuff happening. But Iran was running the entire

(11:27):
war through Hamas. So what did they have direct transfers
of weaponry from Iran? Yep, they supplied Hamas with rockets
like the Fager three, the Fager five, and the M
three to zero two, which have longer ranges and greater payloads.
When it came to technical expertise, the Iranians gave them

(11:48):
the blueprints, the raw materials, and the training to help
Hamas manufacture weapons locally. They also got financial support from
the Iranians. Funding enabled Hamas to purchase weapons from third
parties and sustain its military wing. And then finally what
you saw was ideological alliance. Iran and Hamas are part

(12:13):
of the axis of resistance against Israel and Western influence.
When it came to actually getting supplies through the Egyptians
and the egypt Gaza tunnels, well, those underground tunnels have
been used to transport small arms, explosives, anti tank missiles
from Egypt's Sinai region into Gaza and also shipped to shore.

(12:37):
Stuff went in as well. Sealed capsules containing weapons were
dropped off Gaza's coast and retrieved covertly bypassing the Israeli
naval patrols. Hamas manufactured many of its own weapons, including
Cossam rockets that's a short range homeade sort of rocket.
You've got improvised explosive devices, just like you had during

(13:00):
the bad old days of the IEDs that Americans had
to deal with mortars and small arms. Iranian designs and
materials often underpinned these locally produced weapons, and then you
had black markets and third party channels, smugglers, shippers, financiers
mostly connected to what was going on over in Hamasastan. Well,

(13:25):
this is going to be something that is very different. Now,
this is going to be something that is different because
we're going to get we're going to get separation. I
don't know who's going to come in to try to
rebuild Gaza. I know that there is an effort, there's
a belief that there's somebody is going to come in
and ride to the rescue. But as long as Hamas

(13:46):
is still Hamas and they are wanting to get into
a fight, it's going to be difficult. It's going to
be very difficult, and so you know, it remains to
be seen what the rebuild looks like, if it ever
even happened, Because I can tell you this right now,
I don't know how hot to trot the Saudis are

(14:06):
to go sending people in to try to rebuild Gaza.
I don't know how many Kataris are queuing up to
try to go in and rebuild Gaza. I don't know how.
I definitely don't think there's going to be any Israelis
that are going to want to go in there and
rebuild it. In the United States of America, you know,
we're basically functioning as a bank. You know, we can

(14:26):
give them a couple of bucks and then they can
go and try to rebuild the thing. But I think
what you're seeing is number one, we have to have
the hostages back, and the number has got to be
the number. And the reason why, by the way, this
is a complicated thing, is because there are some hostages
that are being held in Gaza, and there are hostages
that are being held well out of Gaza, meaning there

(14:49):
are hostages that may be held in Iran and Syria
and Afghanistan and among the who thyes and all those people,
and you got to go and figure out where they are,
and you've got to get a good head count, and
you got to make sure it's accurate. That's why they're
they're they're stretching out. I heard Pete talking about how
this is going to stretch out for a couple of

(15:09):
more days. Yeah, because you've got to go figure out
where these people are. You also got to go figure
out where the bodies were buried or left. That's the
fundamental challenge that we've got going on here. So you know,
it's it's not necessarily time to pop the kiyanti, but
I'll tell you that, I'll tell you right now. If
you can get that separation, the Israelis are going to

(15:30):
be in a much better position. And they can they can,
they can resupply themselves with the weaponry they need for
the for the coming next attack, which we'll probably emanate
out of out of any one of these countries. And
then and then, and then there's the United States staring

(15:56):
directly at the Iranians. More to come. Why are you screaming, Isaac?

(16:18):
Why are you screaming?

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Seven?

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Four or five?

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Seven?

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Eleven ten, News Talk eleven ten, nine nine three WVT.
Good to be with you. You guys, want to hear some sound,
raise your hand. Don't do it if you're driving, raise
your hand if you want to hear some sound. I
got some great sound from today. I got up very
very early, and I cut a whole bunch of really
good sound, I mean, like really great sound. So what

(16:42):
do you say, I know, do you know how many
people want to hear from Adam Schiff? A ton of
people they have got. We have a huge constituency of
listeners that want to hear from Adam Schiff. I'm going
to play this. I'm not setting it up. You're gonna
have to die it. And you tell me if you

(17:03):
think this is likely or unlikely. This is cut number one,
Adam Shift.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
You know, the.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Reality is, we can't rule that out. We can't rule
that out. I mean, given the belief that they have
the authority by putting some groups on a list, even
domestic groups, to use lethal force against them with no trial,
nod process, no nothing. And you know, the reality is,
we can't rule that out. We can't rule that out.

(17:31):
I mean, given the abuse, the misuse of the military
in American cities, the President telling the assembled generals and
admirals that we have an enemy within it's a military
training grounds in American cities. As far as he concerned,
you cannot exclude the possibility that the next stage of
this is to go after groups closer to home, or

(17:53):
even here at home.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Adam Shift says that Donald Trump is going to kill
people in the country. Why should Adam Schiff remain in
the Senate? That is as bonkers as Bunkers gets. Is
he on drugs? He needs? You know, they always pointed
Trump and they always say things like he's got cognitive decline.

(18:16):
Does Adam Schiff have cognitive decline? He went on MSNBC
or what I like to call it as Messy NBC
and said that Donald Trump is getting ready to kill
people in America and he's got no basis for this.
Why has he not been expelled from the United States Senate?
Because he's a protected class. Everybody needs a goofy wat job.

(18:42):
But I mean, you look at this, This is unbelievable.
This guy is untethered. He is just out of his mind.
It's not the only one. It's not the only one.
Give me cutting number eight. Are you familiar with Jasmine
Crockett Jasmine Crockett's got thoughts, She's got theories. Here we go.

(19:06):
Cut number eight.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
Please, I truly don't understand how and why anyone can
see that this guy is a viable candidate. We are
talking about someone that literally may start World War three.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
It is just that deep. That's a throwback clip. Is
Donald Trump starting World War three or ending World War three?

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Ah?

Speaker 1 (19:29):
If you said ending World War three, you're absolutely correct.
In fact, he did such a good job. Cut number seven.
Martha Raddits of ABC News, Let's hear it, Martha, go tell.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
Us about the role President Trump played and bringing all
of this about. Well, Robin, there's no question that if
this goes as planned, if we see those remaining hostages
freed in Israel begin its withdrawal, it is a remarkable
achievement and President Trump most certainly deserves credit for his role.
He has done this through diplomacy, pressure, and the sheer
force of his personality and persistence. He dispatched diplomats again

(20:08):
and again, made threats just in the last few days
to Moss say again, if they did not sign the deal,
all hell would break loose, and they had the bombing
of Iran as an example, of that, but perhaps most importantly,
he pushed Benjamin Netanyahoo in wighs his predecessor and others
have not Robin, and what finally got the two sides
to this point and will it be able to get

(20:29):
Phase two off the ground?

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Well, you know, Robin.

Speaker 6 (20:32):
Throughout this process, President Trump never wavered in his support
for Israel, but when netanyahuo ignored much of what Trump
was trying to accomplish by continuing to bomb over the
last few months, Trump laid down the hammer with net Yaho,
essentially saying enough is enough. Trump had also told net
Yahoo that he was opening indirect negotiations with the Iranians,

(20:54):
which put even more pressure on the Israeli Prime minister. Obviously,
the coming days will prove whether the rest of the
plan comes to fruition. But if those hostages are free,
which would leave Hamas without their major bargaining tool, this
is a huge moment for Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
It is a huge moment, but it's a huge moment
for the United States of America. And I think the
President understands that the United States of the of America
is finally utilizing its power in the appropriate way. And
I'm serious when I say this. I'm not I'm not
trying to gussie it up or do anything like that.
But the fact of the matter is the United States

(21:32):
of America is back in business. We are we are
now the people who are steering the ship. And we
haven't had this for a very long time. We haven't
been the the the unassailable ally that we famously have
been for you know, almost a century. And that's the problem.

(21:53):
That's the problem because what we had in the Oval
Office prior to the Trump administration was something that I mean,
I heard from people in a variety of locations who
were not American citizens. These were people who were diplomats
and people who understood the challenges out there. And the

(22:14):
folks were saying, to me, what are you guys going
to do about Biden? What are you going to do
about Harris? If she was potentially elevating herself up to
become the president of the United States? Do you think
serious question? And you can take it any direction you want.
Do you think that Kamala Harris would would have been
able to cobble together this deal? Do you think that

(22:37):
Joe Biden in a second term could have cobbled together
this deal? If not, then who would be the person
that was going to shepherd this. This is the reason
why we are the essential We are the essential nation
in the world. And for all the bad stuff that

(22:59):
people say about the United States, you know, were tyrannical,
Donald Trump is hitler, YadA YadA, yadda, the United States
understands how to wield power. And certainly it's not because
Donald Trump's the president. It's because the United States of
America is the indispensable country and has been the indispensable

(23:20):
country since lend Lease, since right in the beginning of
World War two, even before that. But really we came
into our own winning and being the arsenal of democracy
in the United States of America, and that was the
thing that was important. And do not ever overlook the

(23:42):
importance of the relationship that we have with other nations,
because at the end of World War two, at the
end of World War two, we could have easily just
bamboozled everybody into going under our boot heel. We rebuilt
Europe and we rebuilt Japan. We could have gone in
a very ugly direction. We didn't why because we understood

(24:04):
the importance of relationships and relationships that would benefit people
in trade and in things like that, so that people
would not be so eager to go against into a
war one more time. That's what that is ultimately about.
Peace through Strength. News Talk eleven ten night and I'm

(24:33):
three WBT jump out and grab some calls. See what
people have of their mind, Arthur, Welcome to the program.
What's on your mind? Arthur?

Speaker 7 (24:44):
Hey, I'm ever the pessimist and i've been I'm sixty three, Okay,
I've been watching the PLO, the PLF. I was in
Munich in seventy three after horrible things that people did
in Munich Olympics. I don't trust the Palestinian I don't.

(25:06):
They're still Hamas, poo pof, It's all the same thing.
They cannot be trusted. They're gonna do something again later.
Every time they're stopped, they get rocked back on their heels,
They regroup, they refortify, and they come back again. I
think it's great that there's gonna be peace. The hostages

(25:27):
very important, get released. But I believe within a year
or two, maybe a lot less the PLO, the Hamas
or whatever, even the Palestinian people will reconstitute their terrorist activity.
The Palestinian people are not like the Iranian people who

(25:48):
are under oppressed by their government. The Palestinian people are hamas,
they are the terrorists. They aren't the same as Iraqi
and Iranian people.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
So so what I think is going to happen, That's
that's why I was saying earlier. I think we need separation.
I think we need to get spacing between the two sides,
get your hostages back, and then start to strap up
in a big, big way so that this does not
ever happen again. Now if they want to try to
do it again, you know, I don't think Trump's gonna

(26:22):
stop any you know, prime minister in Israel probably wouldn't
be bb net and Yahoo, but somebody else. I don't
think he's going to try to stop him. I think
he's going to say, Okay, go for it, Go do
what you got to do. But you know, I think
the next malign figure has got to be the Iranians
that have got to be taken down, and we've got
to do it in a smart way, not a kinetic way.

(26:44):
And I think that that's the only way we're going
to get peace. Is what if you can get rid
of that regime and have that become a functioning country.

Speaker 7 (26:51):
I agree, and I hope there's gonna be peace in Israel.
They are only friends, they are only real ally in
the region. We need them as much as they need.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
A right there, right there with you. Thanks Arthur, your
great caller. I appreciate you calling in. Dave is next, Dave,
Welcome to the show. Hello, how you doing doing well?
Thanks for calling. Yes, Sir Brett, I'm mine.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
I sent you a text a few minutes ago. Okay,
I don't believe that that Hamas is necessarily that if
you can trust them far enough to believe they're actually
going to do what they say. However, if they don't
do what they have signed up to do and has
to return the hostages, if that doesn't happen, there won't

(27:36):
be any more arguments. They'll be gone by probably a
week or so.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
One hundred percent. That's exactly right, And and that's why
it was so important for the President to get Saudi
on board, to get Qatar on board, the other countries
in that region, because if the if the Hamas effort
is making people in Israel and you know, neighboring country
trees angry, they've got to be They've got to be

(28:03):
making everybody else in the region angry, and those folks
at some point will decide, Okay, we're just gonna, we're
just gonna, we're just going to straighten this out on
our own. And I think that's what that's what we
need you sort of in some ways, we have created
what looks like a like a like a mini NATO. Right,
So we've got these countries. They may not all be perfect,

(28:25):
they may not all be great, but they're going to
have to be responsible for what Hamas is trying to
do and intervene in a way that they're not going
to screw up the neighborhood. And I think that's that's
a that's a good move by Trump.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
I agree, and I'm I just simply don't believe that.
I can't. I just I might be a prior caller.
It's very difficult to believe anything that they say, sure,
because they've proven that they're not reliable of that.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
So that's where I'm coming from. But thank you for
taking my call.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Great call. Appreciate great call, great call. Absolutely Dave you
call back any time. Stan says, whenever there's a conflict
that has resulted in all out war, I'm always reminded
of what rush Limbas said it takes to resolve it
and achieve a lasting piece. He said, it takes complete

(29:16):
and ultimate victory by one side. I think it's on
the verge of happening here with Israel and Hamas, and
at least hopeful is that it is if it doesn't
come to happen now with this opportunity, there's one holy
hell of war coming in the world's near future that

(29:39):
definitely can be genocide out necessity, out of necessity. Hopeful
that can be avoided, sure, absolutely, And I don't think
I don't think we have to have genocide. I think
if you have to take if you have to take
on the bad guys, should take on the bad guys,
you know. And I think the challenge is the impetus

(30:01):
is going to be on all the other countries that
are there. But remember Trump has made it abundantly clear
that if Hamas jumps off sides, Iran's going to get punched.
He has said it. We bombed their nuclear facilities, We
did all this stuff. We stripped the Iranians to their
to their bare bones. I mean, just think about the

(30:22):
operation that even even if you don't want to talk
about this as a topic, but think about the operation
that the Israelis ran against the Hesbos. The Hesbos got
their uh blown off when they had the beepers. I

(30:42):
mean they sent a pack of beepers in to emasculate
you know, hundreds of fighters and you had people getting
blown up and all that sort of stuff. Now you
may not like that tactic, but it's a whole lot
better than dropping a nuclear weapon on Hezbolistan and any
of the those other places. And by the way, you

(31:02):
really haven't heard much from from from the Hesbos, and
you haven't had heard a whole lot of stuff coming
out of out of a number of places. I wonder, gee,
I wonder why that is. I'm wondering. Geeesh. Do you
think that maybe you think that maybe that attack that
BB Netanyahu deployed over caught her where they killed they

(31:26):
killed the guy, they killed one of the people, and uh,
you don't think that like President Trump was like okay
with that attack, right, It's impossible that Donald Trump would
have been okay with a flyby out of the Israeli IDF.

(31:48):
It's probably just that's just a it's no possible way
that he would want to send a message with BB,
would he. I mean, I remember BB got on the
phone and called the Kataris and said, ah, sorry, we're
not going to do that again. Message sent, Message received,

(32:09):
one hour down, two great ones in front News Talk

(32:30):
eleven to end, nine, nine to three WBT. That's called continuum.
That's a continuum as he goes out, as he comes in.
It's really great. Seven oh four five, seven, zero, eleven ten.
We've got a lot of stories to take to take
a look at. Let me give you something here. Did
you know that there are communists working to overthrow our democracy?

(32:54):
I know it's hard to believe that, right, It's so
hard to believe that we have Kami trying to overthrow
the government of the United States. And I don't never
never see I never see it talked about on like MSNBC.
I never see it talked about when you're over at CNN. Well,
I mean, let's be honest, who even knows what's on

(33:17):
CNN because I don't know anybody who watches it. Guys.
Seamus Bruner reveals left wing funders such as Roy Singham
behind the Antifa riots. So the Seamus Brunner is the
director of research at the Government Accountability Institute it's called GAI.

(33:40):
He revealed that the left wing funders such as Neville
Roy Singham, who's connected to China, is a billionaire and
he's spending a lot of money on trying to mess
up the United States of America. No, no, I'm dead
serious about that. I'm not making this up here. Let
me let you hear this. All right, Isaac, this is

(34:01):
going to be number Oh, this is good. This is
cut number two, and this is from yesterday. Listen to
how they're trying to take your country apart. Letter rip
Cut two.

Speaker 8 (34:13):
Not just a story about violence and chaos, as you
alluded to, mister President, this is a money story. And
at the Government Accountability Institute, my colleague and I, Peter
Schweitzer and I and our team, we follow the money
and we followed it to the top of what we
call the Protest Industrial Complex riot Inc. And we found

(34:34):
a network at NGOs. It's not just the Soros network,
the Open Society Network, it's other funding networks, the Arabella
funding Network, the Tides funding network, Nevill Roy Singham and
his network Foreign Cash, and it's also big left wing funders,
some of them are not citizens of this country, mister
Hans Yorg vis of Switzerland. They're pouring money into this

(34:57):
entire ecosystem. And so I want to share three money
facts with you about what we call riot Inc. Number One,
like any corporation, Riot Inc. Has many divisions. It doesn't
just have the Antifa boots on the ground division. It
has pr divisions, it has marketing divisions, It has a
very well funded legal division to get these boots on
the ground back on the streets as quickly as possible.

(35:19):
But it does have those investors that I mentioned. Number two,
we have identified dozens of radical organizations, not just the
decentralized Antifa organizations, but dozens of radical organizations that have
received more than one hundred million dollars from the riot
Ink investors. These would be the lawyer groups, These would
be the groups that advocate for calling good, honest Americans fascists,

(35:42):
et cetera. And then three, I think the most shocking
thing is that we have found that more than one
hundred million dollars in US taxpayer funding has flowed into
these funding networks, including at least four million dollars to
these very groups themselves, not just Antifa types. But there
was an event in Atlanta called Stop Coop City. Over

(36:04):
sixty rioters were charged with domestic terrorism. These groups received
money for that from both the billionaire class as well
as taxpayer money. So one other thing, this money helps
fund the decentralized crowdfunding platforms. These are ways that Antifa,
the John Brown Gun Club of elm Fork which had

(36:26):
links to that attack on the Ice facility, the Socialist
Rifle Association, and just because they don't have LLCs or
ein numbers doesn't mean they can't get paid some of
these funding platforms. Crowdfunding platforms are funded by this network
that we call rioting. So again I want to thank
you for your leadership, for the whole cabinets leadership on this.

(36:47):
We're going to keep following the money and appreciate everything
you're doing.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Sir.

Speaker 9 (36:52):
Do you know the name of any of the funders?
Do you know the names? Because if you do, I'd
like you to give them to Cash or Pam.

Speaker 8 (36:58):
Absolutely well, Christy, yeah, we'll do.

Speaker 9 (37:01):
As soon as you can. That's all of you, because
you probably know the names. After a certain period of
time you tend to find out. But these are people
that do not have good intention for the country, and
that's treason is probably so if you could, if you
very important, if you could do that, it would be great.
Nobody would know better than you. You'll figure it out.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
So what we just heard in three minutes and eight
seconds was the playbook to have your country taken down right.
And if you were to say something, they'll call you
a fascist. They don't even know how to define the

(37:44):
phrase fascist, the word fascist. They don't even know how
many caes are and fascist, they don't know any of
that kind of stuff. And so what is happening here
is you have these very well funded people who have
taken benefit of the United States of America and have
now decided they are going to rip the country apart. Now,

(38:06):
the problem with that is there is going to be
a response. See, you might have a hundred million dollars
to go and try to destroy the United States, but
you don't have one hundred million people looking to destroy
the United States. In fact, I would argue you probably

(38:27):
have about one hundred and fifty or two hundred million
people who are ready to defend the United States. That's
an interesting conversation. I want to warn you about something.
When we come back You're going to hear something that
you will not believe and it is shocking, shocking. News

(38:58):
Talk eleven ten, not a nine to three WBT. Let
to grab this call from Judith. Hello, Judith, welcome to
the program. What's on your mind? Hey?

Speaker 10 (39:06):
I know you were just talking about communism, but I
was in traffic and couldn't talk about what's going on
over with Hamas and Israel.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Sure, so many.

Speaker 10 (39:16):
People, maybe I'm just old, but so many people seem
to have forgotten that the Israelis gave Gaza to the
Palestinians twenty something years ago. Yes, and all they've used
that for as a launching pad to get closer to
attack Israel.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
That's exactly right, that that is exactly right. In fact,
they drove the settlers who had, you know, developed a
whole bunch of great stuff in Gaza, and they forced
them off the land, and they gave the land to
the people who would then turn it into Hamasa. You're
exactly right, that is exactly right. And I'm glad you
that I.

Speaker 10 (39:55):
Remember some of the soldiers, the IDF guys that were
having to you know, unfortunately, force their own people out
of their homes, and they were kind of tearing up.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Sure, they were living there. Absolutely.

Speaker 10 (40:11):
You know, there's a there's a scripture in the Old
Testament that says something about Ishmael kicking against himself and
that you know, people want peace in the Middle East,
but if you're a scripture follower, you'll know that there
will never be peace. And I don't mean to sound

(40:34):
like a downer, but this, this has been my whole
ever since I can remember as a teenager, this has
been going on.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Sure, well, I mean it could look, it goes, look
it goes, it goes back hundreds of years, okay, thousands
of years there there there have been back and forth
in that regard. I think the effort that's being made
is not a perfect piece or a complete piece. I
think it's it's just the you have people, you have
elements that want to be able to live and live safely.

(41:06):
And look, the the Israeli the IDF did the best
job that they possibly could in the run up. I
guess they had bad intelligence, they didn't understand, they didn't see,
or they were willfully blind that Hamas was you know,
defeated or whatever it is. And now I don't think
they'll ever make that mistake again. I mean, that's that's
that's my guess. But you know, I might be right.

Speaker 10 (41:28):
I think I think the saddest thing would be as
if we actually just gave up on peace.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Right. That's horrible. Yes, that would be too, that would
be terrible. Absolutely, Yeah.

Speaker 10 (41:38):
But I'm so glad that at least these families that
lost their people and have been in prisoned for so
long now as kind of like I guess, POWs sure,
it'll be nice to have some closure there.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
That is true. That is true, Jude. If you're a
great you're a great caller. You call back anytime. I
really appreciate the conversation.

Speaker 10 (42:00):
Thanks, I enjoy your show.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Thank you very much. That's Judith checking in with us
on this topic. So on the funders, on the people
who were funding all the stuff that's going on. You
heard in that last segment we were talking and listening
to Seamus and those guys who are tracking these guys.

(42:22):
I'm gonna I'm gonna let you hear something that it
actually shocked me. Of all the places that this could
have happened or or looked like it was going to happen,
or any of that sort of stuff, this actually shocked
me in a big way. Because we have radicals on
college campuses. That's not a surprise to me. I understand that.

(42:43):
I understand that fully. But I'm gonna let you hear
a package that comes from that comes from a news site,
a streaming news site, and this is something that holy
cow letter rip Isaac. Let's hear it.

Speaker 11 (43:00):
How dare you publicize the video or the thing I
did publicly?

Speaker 1 (43:04):
I mean, it's amazing.

Speaker 11 (43:04):
Do these kids not understand that they're doing something in public?

Speaker 1 (43:08):
And why would you?

Speaker 11 (43:08):
If you don't want your identity to be shown, then
don't do it. It's just amazing. No one seems to
be giving these kids any guidance.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
To do They no, no whatsoever.

Speaker 12 (43:16):
I mean one of them put a guy put his
hands on me actually yesterday got in my face with
the tambourine so that I wouldn't report them. Yeah, they
were very, very upset.

Speaker 7 (43:26):
But I will say this.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
They are about.

Speaker 12 (43:27):
Fifty students at this protest. This is in the evening,
but earlier I was at NC State and again probably
forty people at most.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
And this was the day for.

Speaker 12 (43:37):
Palestine, as you mentioned, and I asked made several queries.
Number one what is Palestine, where is the capital, what
is the currency of Palestine, Where's it located? And on film,
I got a young lady telling me that she believes
that Israel should not exist, period, And I asked her
a clarifying question to make sure that I heard that correctly,

(43:57):
and she did, in fact say that. The interesting Jacobs
last night, NC State, the official account for NC State
the school made a comment and said, we were going
to give all of our student groups the freedom to
speak and viewpoint freedom essentially, and when you express the

(44:18):
desire to wipe Jews off the face of the map
in their homeland, that is not viewpoint discrimination. And I
pointed it out, and I think you'll agree, and I
think the audience will agree. If the KKK were to
come on to campus visa via student group, that would
be and should be prohibited. And yet it is just

(44:39):
fine at NC State to allow discussion on wiping Israel
off the map. Look, on Friday, they're going to have
a tribunal for Jews. That's right, a tribunal for Jews
at UNC Chapel Hill. Now let's reverse that. What if
you hell a tribunal for gays at a school or

(45:01):
a tribunal for Muslims at the school that would be
shut down immediately, and yet un C Chapel Hill, we've
heard absolutely nothing from that school.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
A tribunal for Jews. So as if to say, you're
putting Jewish people on trial. Look, I understand it's been
a while since I was on a college campus attending college,
and I went to a very progressive college. But it

(45:35):
didn't wear off on me. I actually came out more
conservative as as it related to the people who were
in that business and in that conversation and all that
sort of stuff. But the idea of anybody, I don't
care what the group is, anybody putting a tribunal, like
what comes after the tribunal? You find them guilty and

(45:55):
then exert do you exercise some sort of punishment? Uh? Perhaps?
You know, like we keep hearing about all the stuff
that that's going on with Antifa, and they keep saying,
you know, we're gonna get a We're gonna put up
a guillotine and all that sort of stuff, or a guillotine,
as the French people like to say, this is that's it,

(46:16):
This is absurd. I would hope, I would hope if
they're gonna do a tribunal on Jews that fellow allies
would step up for those people and defend them and
say to these goofy people, these wackos, these indoctrinated maniacs,

(46:39):
that you you don't get to try anybody. You don't
get to tribunal anybody. You You are a civilian person
attending a university, obviously a very very elite university, a
university that you know has decided to go super aggressive.

(47:00):
I mean, we remember that we had a bright spot
last year when they saved the American flag that they
were trying to destroy, right, we remember those those heroes
doing that sort of stuff. But but tribunal for Jewish people, hmm,
that's that I would say, is a bridge too far.

(47:20):
I would say that that's you. Probably you may want
to you may want to kind of keep an eye
on who it is that's doing the tribunaling and maybe
record their names and information, because as somebody who's willing
to go and put a bunch of Jewish people on
a tribunal, try to get them out of out of

(47:41):
town or whatever they're trying to do, maybe it would
be something it may be good evidence to have because
maybe at some point the authorities would like to know
that you have you have ad hoc trials going on
at college campuses like this. See this is this is
the problem. This, this is the problem. And the only
people who are supporting this kind of lunacy are the

(48:05):
people like Seamus was talking about, with the hundred million
dollars and the twelve million dollars and that million dollars
and the other million dollars. Again, you can have all
the hundred million dollars you want. You can be JB. Pritzker,
you can be Brandon Johnson, you can be Gavin newso
many Tosome Newsom, you could be anybody you want to be.

(48:27):
But you know what, the end of the day, when
the conversation is going back and forth and the debates
are happening, I do believe that in the United States
of America, Americans are going to show up and they're
they're they're they're going to they're going to lend their
voices to those who need support most. That's why we're

(48:52):
a great country. And if you want to go back
to Cali, or you want to go back to Portland,
or you want to go back to Shytown, go ahead
and do it. It's your privilege to do it. But
regular people are going to defend the United State. News

(49:30):
Talk eleven t th WBT Brett Winable show. We got
so much stuff I gotta talk about. I have. I
just I've got so much stuff coming our way. It's
just unbelievable. I just sit back and I go, hold on,
hold on him? Is this all stuff? Are we really
gonna be going through this sort of thing? I I just, man,

(49:53):
I gotta tell you. I gotta tell you. Winston, Welcome
to the program. What's on your mind? Winston? Winston? Sorry, man,
I don't know what happened. Oh I had such high hopes. Sorry, Winston,

(50:14):
I tried. You know what I haven't talked about yet today? Yep,
it must be talked about. What what do you get?
What are you complaining about? You don't even know what
I'm gonna talk about here? Not even you don't even
know what I'm gonna talk about. Here we go. Naked

(50:36):
mole rats DNA could hold the key to long life?
How about that? Naked mole rats DNA could hold the
key to a long life? This stuff is like weird.
I would you know? I'm not a space guy, I'm
just kind of interested in this thing that's kind of
coming our way. But I got to tell you something.

(50:57):
If you're like a if you're a person that deals
with like weird bald subterranean rodents or things like that,
I got to tell you, honestly, one hundred percent, I
am afraid of the creepy Crawley people. Not the creepy
Crawley people, but like, I don't want to ever be
near a mole rat or anything like that. I could
not go down in basements, I could not go go

(51:18):
and be around bats. I couldn't be around any of
that sort of stuff. I think there are things that
you can deal with and there are things that you
cannot deal with. Like, for whatever reason, whatever reason, I
just don't I don't like the way nature kind of
manifests itself, and it just kind of freaks me out.
That's why I'm more I'm more happy when I'm talking

(51:39):
about the space thing, because I'm never going to go
to space. If I had to go to my attic
and find a bat up there, I'm freaking out. I'm
actually taking a moving van and I'm just leaving the
house because I don't want a bat and I don't
want by the way, Isaac, Isaac, he's making fun of me.

(52:00):
But let me just tell you. Can I show you
something here, Isaac, Just take a peek at this. You
know what that is? You know what that is? Nah,
he just freaked out. Now, that's the kind of thing
I'm talking about. That is a that's a naked mole rat.
And they're saying a naked mole rat is the secret
to long life, So like living nude is the secret. No,

(52:22):
they're weird, bald subterranean rodents that look like sausages with teeth,
and they have just revealed a genetic secret to long life.
Would you like to live a long life if you
had to kick it with the naked mole rat? I
think you would. A new study of the bizarre naked
mole rat shows that I'm not saying male rat. I'm

(52:43):
not saying like the naked maule rat, cause you're going
to jail. If you go to a mall and you're naked,
you're going to jail. I'm talking about a naked mole
mol e rat. That's what I'm talking about. A new
study of a bizarre naked mole rats shows that the
animals have evolved a DNA repair mechanism that could explain

(53:06):
their longevity. Okay, now I'm in. Now, I'm all in.
If I got to roll, if I got to roll
with the mole, I'm going to roll with the mole
with the good DNA. Isaac agrees these listen, listen to this.
This is Isaac's gotta run out of the room, so
I gotta get this segment underway. These burrow dwelling rats

(53:31):
have a maximum life span of nearly forty years, making
them the world's longest lived rodent. That's amazing, isn't nature cool.
The new findings, published in the journal Science, could also
shed light on why naked mole rats are resistant to

(53:55):
a wide range of age related diseases. The animals are
resistant to cancer, deterioration of the brain and spinal cord,
and arthritis. So many scientists want to understand more about
how their bodies work. Because if you could pull out,

(54:16):
like if you could get some mole naked mole rat
DNA that you could put in your body, you might
live for forty years. Are you willing to put naked
bowl rat gens in your gens? No? But if you like,
if you could if you cook it down or something,

(54:37):
or like whoa, you're gonna cook it? Need no, But
I'm saying it's like nutritional. I'm not just gonna go
steal some DNA out of a poor mole rat. I
want to make sure it's like safe. I'm not gonna
get like the mange or something like that. You know,
I don't want, I don't need that. You're laughing at
You can get an extra forty years, but you gotta
have their teeth. Hold on. Let me just say something. Okay,
this might be a deal breaker, the teeth. This is

(55:00):
a deil bragger, but go ahead. The study was led
by a team at Tanji University in Shanghai, China. Oh
that's trustworthy. That's a great university. Yeah, okay for mole rats.
If you don't know about the mole rat program, the
press of a molrat got in.

Speaker 13 (55:18):
But yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
The focus was DNA repair, a natural process in our
bodies cells. When strands of DNA, our genetic building blocks,
are damaged, a mechanism is triggered, whereby another undamaged strand
of DNA is used as a template to repair the break.
That's pretty cool. That is pretty cool. Is it. Honestly,

(55:45):
God's creation is like unbelievable, Like this could be the
secret to long life. And all you have to do
is get yourself some DNA matter from a mole rat.
Just drink some milk and exercise. You'll be fine. People

(56:07):
say you shouldn't drink milk anymore? Did you? People? There
there's people saying you shouldn't drink milk anymore because they're
saying they don't you have strong bones, know, they're saying that,
they're saying it makes you have diminished Just that's all
I'm saying. Like you don't you don't want to be
involved with the I'm just gotta whistle it. They they're

(56:29):
they're saying, you drink milk. Something's in the milk. I'm saying, Look,
you don't like the mole rat, but you're okay drinking milk.
Be careful. That's the mole rat whistling by request from

(56:59):
the naked mole rats at all of the naked roll
mats mole rats seven four, five, seven eleven ten. All Right,
I got insulted. I got insulted a little bit over
the over the transom here because I you know, I
get messages on the transom. Check this out. This is
this is really quite something. I have to share. I

(57:22):
just I have to share. My friend John says, hey,
you have cats. That's like one degree away from a
mole rat. No, no, it's not. Cats would actually go
and hunt down the mole rats like that. The cats
are tough. You know, know those cats do? What do they do?

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Milk? There?

Speaker 1 (57:42):
You know what do? You're not supposed to give them milk.
That's what they say. They say you shouldn't give them milk. Okay,
we got we got messages that came in here. I
want to I want to appoint them in the appropriate direction.
Let's see, I've got I've got right here, Jake, what

(58:02):
is Jake got? Now? It's all slow. I can't get
the thing. It's terrible. Mal Rats have a surprising long
lifespan too. Yeah, that is true. Mal Rats was a
great movie. That was a phenomenal movie. Hey, Brett, can
a naked mal rat identify as being clothed? Yes? They Yes,
they could, They absolutely can, because I think technically their

(58:26):
their skin is their clothing. They do. This thing does
look like it's a hot dog with teeth. I mean,
that's really how I would like a raw hot dog
with teeth. Let's see I get this message in. Yeah,
I don't know about that, brother. The craving to eat
more cheese would be bad for your heart, and I'm

(58:46):
not sure that the positive outweighs negatives. How you drink
milk and you become a communist? Oh no, no, no,
I'm sorry. You drink the milk and the communism goes away.
I don't think. I don't think the communism goes away.
I don't think the communism goes away. A great take.
You gotta be careful, fantastic take. That's not I can't.

(59:07):
I can't give that medical decision. The secret to a
long married life whenever you and your spouse argue is
to is to get naked first to try to continue
the argument. That's Jeff, wow, I never heard that before.

(59:27):
Oh the Naked Mold knows about this. Brenda from Indian
Land says, You've been hanging around Pete too long? Have I?
I feel like I need more Peat in my life.
I think I'm very pro Pete. Okay, Also, we got
we also got here coming in. You're right about the milk.

(59:49):
Were the only creatures that drink milk after infants, every
other species stops drinking milk when they are babies, and yeah,
she really should give shouldn't give cats a lot of milk?
Fake news? Oh okay, mister President, what else do we
get here? Oh Stan? A lot of the commedies are

(01:00:10):
trying to overthrow our government are NGOs operating here right
here in our own country and funding it. And what's
more dangerous for mankind? Three I Atlas or communism? Oh man,
that's a good point. Should I should? I?

Speaker 14 (01:00:24):
Should?

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
I deliver the news to the audience that does not
know what the news is that you and I were
just talking about a minute ago. Share it, Let's do it.
The Justice Department has indicted New York Attorney General Latitia James.
The Feds have indicted her for the mortgage fraud thing

(01:00:48):
that she was accused of doing. Now, remember this would
be number two or three of the people who are
getting caught up with this sort of stuff. That's a
that's a pretty bad that's a pretty bad thing. I mean,
like I know where my house is, and I know
where my house is, and then where my mortgage is
at my house where I live, Like I don't have

(01:01:11):
to worry that someone says, I live some like two
states away. Okay, I I don't understand what's going on
with that, but but you know what is what you got? So, uh,
the Justice Department has indicted Trump foe. This is how
they write it up over it at CNN. Justice Department

(01:01:32):
indicts Trump foe New York Attorney General Letitia James. Now
what if it's but what if both things can be true?
What if she went after President Trump and then on
a separate matter, it turns out that she did not
follow the rules or the laws of of of the

(01:01:55):
of the world like that? How is that two things
can be the same thing? Doesn't mean that you can.
You can only be one thing at one part of
the time. And look, if if they were going to
indict everybody, wouldn't they indict the guy who rented a
lot of cabins and and uh uh the uh the

(01:02:15):
prosecutor down in Fanny Foannie Willis. I mean, wouldn't they
wouldn't they be wouldn't there just be a spree of
indictments going around out there if they're trying to take
all the enemies down? I think these are potentially very
much real, uh real cases. Now, what does this look like. Well,
I got to tell you, this does change certain things.
This does change the conversation where people are looking at

(01:02:40):
the news because if you think about it, just a
couple of days ago, you had who was leading the news.
Two days ago, anybody remember who was leading the news.
I'll tell you who was. It was Brandon Johnson and
it was Pritzker. Well, now we've got peace in the
Middle East theoretically, and what else do we have an
indictment over here? So the news cycle, the news cycle

(01:03:05):
is still the news cycle. And that's what we have
to always remember. That's what we have to remember. The
news cycle is going to live on its own, you know,
sort of. I know, I'm not gonna say racosmos recognaissance
that we nobody's been guilty yet. But you know, anybody,
anybody heard from Alvin Bragg, anybody heard from Judge Murshawan,

(01:03:32):
anybody heard from Adam Shifty Shift any we'll find out.
We got another great hour straight ahead, taking your phone calls.
Everything is fair game, all right. People are freaking out.

(01:03:57):
People are freaking out about Leticia James being in died CNN.
Letitia James, the New York Attorney General who defeated Trump
and court indicted by Justice Department. CNBC. New York ag
Latisia James indicted by grand jury. MSNBC reports guardian Leticia

(01:04:21):
James criminally charged in Trump's latest effort to punish rivals. Wait,
is it possible that he's trying to punish her but
at the same time she might be guilty? I mean,
what are we doing? If it's a grand jury, you
don't get to pick the people for the grand jury.
They get selected and then they look at the evidence

(01:04:41):
and they say, yeah, there's evidence for this or there's
no evidence for that. So the CNN write up. I'll
give you the CNN write up. Latsia James, the New
York Attorney general who defeated Trump in court, indicted by
Justice Department. But they went to a grand jury. Okay.
New York Attorney General Latis James was indicted Thursday in Alexandria, Virginia.

(01:05:04):
As President Donald Trump's Justice Department continues to pursue charges
against his political opponents, two sources familiar with the matter
told CNN, Okay, so we're supposed to believe James Kobe
totally innocent, Letitia James totally innocent. That like, that's supposed
to be the evidentiary piece here, right. If Donald Trump

(01:05:25):
wanted to put people in jail, why hasn't he put
Gavin Newsom in jail? Why hasn't he put the governor
of the governor of Illinois in jail? Why hasn't he
gone after Simon bar Sinister, you know who I'm talking about, Brennan.
Why doesn't he go after them? He's not going after

(01:05:47):
them because these cases are what they are, and either
you're guilty or you're not guilty. James has been under
investigation since May over a twenty twenty three more she
took out to help her niece buy a home in Norfolk, Virginia.
The charges come as Trump continues to call for his

(01:06:10):
enemies to be prosecuted in court. But wait a minute,
hold on, did she did she do something that ran
a foul of the law when it came to the mortgage?
Is it possible? The charges come as Trump continues to
call for his enemies to be prosecuted in court. Former

(01:06:34):
FBI director James Comey pleaded not guilty Wednesday to allegedly
making a false statement in a congressional proceeding. Okay, but
is it a violation of the law if you don't
answer truthfully? I don't know. That's why they're going to court.
The Justice Department has also opened an investigation into former

(01:06:54):
Trump national security advisor John Bolton. Mean that John Bolton
is totally honest and forthright, California Democratic Senator Adam Schiff
and others. Is Adam Schiff under indictment. He's still in
the Senate, He's still asking questions. He's asking very robust questions.

(01:07:17):
None of this means that they're getting thrown in the clink, right.
James's relationship with Trump has been adversarial for years as James,
Oh wait, they bury the lead. James relationship with Trump
has been adversarial for years, as James campaigned on promises
to investigate and ultimately won a civil fraud case against Trump,

(01:07:44):
his adult sons, and his real estate business. A judge
found them liable for fraud for inflating the value of
their properties and ordered Trump to pay three hundred and
fifty five million dollars in penalties. Trump has appealed. Trump's
gonna win that case. And I'm telling you he's gonna

(01:08:05):
win that case, and he's gonna get the three hundred
and fifty five million dollars back because there was no
fraud that was committed. He paid the loan back. There's
no fraud. And she went, remember, you gotta remember she
went with that weirdo, half naked maniac who was the
judge in that case in uh, what was his name, Angern?

(01:08:29):
Judge Angern And it was a it was a he's
like a state he's like a state judge who was
just wanting to be famous for being famous. I mean,
it was pretty pretty weird. During the eleven week trial,
Trump's anger towards James was palpable. Yeah, but he wasn't president.
He was a civil he's a civic person. He railed

(01:08:51):
against her in the courthouse hallways and from the witness stand.
Trump testified as James sat across from him in the courtroom.
Galley quote, this is a political witch hunt, and I
think she should be ashamed of herself. That's a pretty
fair critique. It's nothing like he's not cursing at her.
You believe this political hack back there, and that's unfortunate.

(01:09:14):
James often punched back outside the courtroom, on social media
or in video statements. Last month, CNN reported that the
Justice Department prosecutors in Virginia, led at the time by
Eric Sebert, interviewed dozens of witnesses who do not believe
that they gathered enough evidence to support criminal charges against James. Well,

(01:09:39):
is that guy still in charge. He's not still in charge.
Somebody else decided to bring the case. This is what happens.
She did it to Trump, Now she's getting him a
little taste of the same sort of thing. I mean,
this is if you're the target of Trump, you better
have all your eyes and eyes and te's dotted. I mean,
I would guess that's what I would do. Look, what's

(01:10:04):
his name is getting investigated the secretary of the Treasury.
People were asking questions about about Scott looking to see, Okay,
you have a mortgage. What does that mortgage look like?
People are looking into this sort of stuff. If you're
a public servant, you've got to be above board. If
you're not a public servant, you can just go try

(01:10:25):
to take a chance and see what happens. And if
you're anonymous, if people don't know what you're talking about,
whatever it is, that's a weird thing. But let's get
into the investigation. The investigation is focused on a mortgage
obtained in twenty twenty three for a property in Norfolk, Virginia.
Her attorneys provided a document to the Justice Department in

(01:10:45):
April to push back on what they called threadbare allegations.
They said that one document in the mortgage application mistakenly
said the property would be for James's primary residence. But
they submitted other documents to argue that there was no fraud.
But if you wrote that document, if you notarized that document,

(01:11:11):
and you quote mistakenly made the mistake, why wouldn't you
repair that problem immediately instead sat back for two three years?
Is she trying to take advantage? I don't know. In
one document, James writes in an email to her loan originator,

(01:11:32):
this property will not be my primary residence. Did you
sign it underneath that said this is where I'm living?
It was a mistake. Did you correct it? You're a lawyer,
You're the main lawyer, You're the top lawyer in New
York City. Why is that not being taken into account?

(01:11:53):
Weird Right News Talk eleven ten out of nine to three.
WBT Brett Waterble Show, The Brett Waterble Show, Good to
Be With you. There's so much stuff out here we're

(01:12:15):
talking about. And look, I understand a lot of different
things here. Let's see what we got here. Are you
guys working on the FM signal their static? I'm not
aware of it. I will try to effort that information.
Latisia James can't stand Trump yet shows up for a
free meal at the Al Smith Dinner in twenty twenty four.

(01:12:38):
Trump can't be that bad. That's interesting. What else do
we get here? Let's see, Brett. If Donald Trump gets
the Nobel Peace Prize, should he give it back if
he gets exposed in the Epstein Files or does it
go back to him being able to shoot someone in
the middle of New York City and nobody caring because

(01:12:58):
we love him so much. Uh, Kevin is a very
silly goose. Kevin is a very very silly goose. Uh.
I don't know, you know what. The Epstein Files thing
has not come out yet, and I'm wondering what that's
gonna look like. I mean, that's that's what I can
tell you. Innocent till proven guilty. That's still part of
the law, except for Trump, I think, right, Kevin, because

(01:13:20):
you you hate you hate Trump, we believe Trump equals
w B T. I know, but you listen to the
program every single day, and I double dog dare you
to call and have a conversation. I would love to
hear from you. This is a person who he sends
the same message on a on a rotating basis. But
if you want to call in, Kevin, let's let's let's

(01:13:41):
let's hash it out, let's talk about it. I mean,
I see some of the stuff that you're throwing, you know,
out here, but the fact of the matter is, I mean, look,
it's going to be adjudicated in the court. It's just
like every one of those court cases that Donald Trump
had to deal with. He had to he had to
pay the fees, he had to do the stuff, he
had to all the things that they were doing. That's

(01:14:03):
the chances you take, you know. And I know you
probably don't want to call in because you know, for
whatever reason, but nevertheless, people are welcome to call in
on the program. Mystery as four thousand year old paronic
painting disappears from cursed tomb in Egypt. WHOA Now, hold

(01:14:27):
on a second, Remember the other day when we did
a story that was just like this where they took
the three thousand year old or four thousand year old jewelry,
and they stole it and they melted it down. They
melted it down, and they didn't realize the value of

(01:14:49):
the thing. They just thought it was gold. They were like,
I will just melt it down. Then they melted it
down and it was like boom, no more gold. Well,
this is a mystery. As a four thousand year old
faronic painting disappears from a cursed tomb in Egypt? Do
you believe that curses are real, like an Egyptian curse

(01:15:12):
from four thousand years ago? Could that really affect you?
I don't know. The only curse that I have ever
encountered on a personal basis was the curse before two
thousand and four when the New York Yankees kept dominating
the Red Sox, and the Red Sox finally won in
two thousand and four. Okay, and so I believe there

(01:15:37):
are sports curses in some cases, no doubt about it.
But a four thousand year old painting has vanished from
Egypt's famed Sakara Necropolis, the latest artifact to disappear in
mysterious circumstances. The limestone relief appeared to have been cut

(01:15:58):
out of the wall of the Cursed Ancient Tome tomb
in Kantika in Sakara Necro necropolis outside Cairo, according to
local media. The British mission working in the tomb discovered
that the painting was missing in May, according to Cairo

(01:16:18):
twenty four, but the officials only publicize the disappearance on Sunday,
and archaeology committee has now been brought together to try
to draw up an inventory of everything in the tomb.
I always wonder about that, Like, wouldn't you put a
guard on it, wouldn't you like take the stuff and
then like say, okay, we're gonna put this under lock
and guard, lock and key, and the guard's gonna be

(01:16:39):
guarding this sort of stuff. Like I can't believe that
people just they just they just leave these press you know,
priceless items just laying around and people come and take them.
I mean understanding like back in the old days, the
bad old days, you know, when people would loot all
these different sort of things. But my gosh, it's a
modern era. I would imagine you'd be able to keep
this stuff under lock and key. But apparently that's not

(01:17:01):
the case, right. Apparently that that's just that's just an impossibility.
And I think it's important because this is the history
of humanity, and I think it's it's sort of the
property of of of the of the world in some ways.
Right obviously it's it's positioned in Egypt, but people would

(01:17:21):
love to study these sorts of things and look at
these sorts of things and try to figure out, you know,
what what does this mean and what was what's the
messaging here or any of that sort of stuff. You know,
I'm a huge, huge history buff. I love seeing old
stuff and and new stuff and things like that. But
but the idea that this stuff keeps getting stolen I

(01:17:44):
think is just about the worst of the worst of it.
But you know, maybe maybe somebody decided they wanted to
steal it, Maybe somebody decided they wanted to, you know,
to do something else, which is terrible. I mean, I
really think it's a it's an awful, awful situation. The

(01:18:08):
other thing that's worth talking about, obviously is the Nobel
potential Nobel Peace Prize sort of idea that's that's been
percolating as a result of the effort to bring peace.
I guess it would be the term uh. There in

(01:18:28):
the in the Middle East with the with Hamas and
obviously the Israelis, we're waiting for another couple of days
to see who is going to come out of captivity.
We are also waiting to see who is going to
be exchanged between the the Hamas efforts and of course

(01:18:49):
the Israeli efforts, and see who it is that's that's
going to be released and how that's going to go.
It looks like there is a very large number I
think two thousand people who are going to be released
that we're in custody with Israel going back to Hamas.
And then you're also going to see on the other side,

(01:19:12):
they're expecting about twenty or twenty five people who are
still alive, and then the remains of those who were
murdered in captivity. Those are the folks that the Israelis
are waiting to see happens. And one of the things
that's different than anything else in the entirety of this

(01:19:32):
saga that we've been watching is the idea that there
are coefficients that are part of this that are going
to be responsible for enforcing the peace. The peace effort.
So Saudi Arabia cut her other elements. Egypt is going

(01:19:55):
to have a hand in it as well. And I
said earlier on the program, I believe the strategy that's
going to happen here is this is to get separation,
to get the hostages back, to get repatriated these people
who had been held in Israeli jails, and then they're
probably going to not spend a whole lot of time together.
I don't think I would be surprised if they would

(01:20:17):
want to. And at that point you'll start to see
people wanting to try to rebuild Gaza to the extent
that it's worth rebuilding. The Judith called in the last hour,
and I thought she made a very very important point,
and that was the idea that you know, once upon
a time, Gaza was great. It was a beautiful piece

(01:20:39):
of land, and then the settlers were pulled out, they
were thrown out, they were not allowed to be there,
and they gave it over to Hamas for all intents
and purposes, and Hamas just weaponized it and they said, listen,
we're just going to weaponize everything. We're going to you know,
keep moving, keep moving, keep moving, and when the time

(01:21:00):
is right, we're going to attack Israel and that's exactly
what they did two years ago. And it's a shame
to see the death, the destruction, the mayhem, the crisis
that's at play here. But unfortunately, unfortunately, this is a
deep seated hatred and they targeted civilians, and I just

(01:21:22):
I don't know how close and how close enough close
it's going to be when people are trying to come
in and maybe try to work. But this is this
is an eminent tragedy all the way around. This is

(01:22:11):
uh Isaac's warm up song, but he's in the bullpen.
But it's what he gets hyped. Seven oh four, five,
seven oh eleven ten. Okay. I will open up the
lines for four for four callers who want to tell
me what your what your hype song is? Okay, seven
oh four five seven oh eleven ten, seven oh four,

(01:22:31):
five seven zero eleven ten, four of you, only only
four of you can tell me what your your hype
songs are. We have a lot of other stuff happening
at the same time, so let's go into Maduro Land, Maduro, Maduro, Maduro.
I read in the last twenty four hours, I read
an article that says that there is a new axis

(01:22:54):
of evil that's taking that's taking flight, and the axis
of evil that's been put together is Russia, North Korea, Cuba,
and Venezuela. Well, I don't know if Meduro understands that

(01:23:16):
he's the low man on the totem pole, because this
man is being targeted aggressively, aggressively. In fact, if you
go to the piece that's posted over at zero Hedge,
US is working on strategy to eliminate Meduro. The Trump
administration is working on a strategy to eliminate Venezuelan President

(01:23:42):
Nicholas Meduro, according to a report in Politico's National Security Daily.
The report focused on US Special Envoy Rick Grinnell, who
was recently instructed to halt his diplomatic efforts with the
Venezuelan government. We were having conversations back a coup couple

(01:24:04):
of months ago, and now this thing has gone completely,
some would say dead. Sources told Natsek Daily that they
didn't think the move meant Grinnell was on the outs,
but rather that the US was now focused on escalating

(01:24:25):
its efforts to oust Maduro. The president is serious. No
more mixed messages, no more excuses. A person familiar with
the Trump administrations thinking towards the National Security Daily, there
is now a coherent, whole of government strategy to eliminate
the Cartel de la Sols and its leader. The Cartel

(01:24:49):
de la Solis is a term used to describe a
network of Venezuelan government officials allegedly involved in drug trafficking.
The group does not actually exist as an organization, but
the US has declared it a terrorist group that has
claimed Meduro is its leader. Oh oh man, this is bad.

(01:25:12):
It's bad for Maduro. Meduro and the other Venezuelan officials
have strongly denied the US allegations, pointing to data that
shows the majority of the cocaine that is produced in
Colombia doesn't go through Venezuela. President Trump has framed the

(01:25:33):
military campaign in the region, which has involved bombing at
least four votes, as a response to overdose deaths in
the United States to fentanyl. But fentanyl isn't produced in
Venezuela and it does not go through the country on
its way to the US. Well, then is that really
the intel? Is that what we know is that what

(01:25:54):
we believe, this is going to be a part, This
is going to be a back and forth punch out,
And I think what the purpose of this is is
not to allow China, Russia, Venezuela, and North Korea to

(01:26:15):
operate in the in the hemisphere near US, because this
is basically a narco state. It's basically a narco state.
Ryan Grimm says, I think people just don't believe that
Trump and Rubio really do plan on ramping up a
war on Venezuela because it seems so crazy. And yet,

(01:26:36):
Ah Tommy va Tour, I don't get why people aren't
more worried about the fact that we're barreling towards a
regime change war with Venezuela. Well, it's entirely possible that
this is just a pressure campaign and you're going to
try to see whether or not they can drive Meduro
from office and they can take somebody and put them

(01:26:58):
in as a person who might be more friendly to
the United States. I mean, basically, you know, once upon
a time, the folks there in that part of the world,
they were they were like the wealthiest country in the world.
And when they turned to the socialistic agenda that was

(01:27:19):
the infection that came in out of Cuba, the country
got very, very poor, and they have got amazing assets,
so I think this is probably a regime change, meaning
a pressurized regime change, so that people can be free
again in Venezuela. I mean, I think that's probably what
it is, all right. I solicited from some people. I
don't know if you know that or not. I solicited

(01:27:39):
some people on some tunes. Mary Ann, what's your hype song?

Speaker 10 (01:27:46):
Lose Yourself by Eminem?

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
Oh my gosh, that's your song, Lose Yourself by Eminem.
Oh my gosh, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:27:54):
If I played Major League Baseball that walk up song.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
Oh my gosh, that's awesome. All right, thank you very much,
Mary Anne. You're the best. I appreciate you being out there.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (01:28:04):
Appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
Sorry, you got it, absolutely all right. Let's go to RUSS.
Go to Russ, Russ, welcome to the show. What's your
hype song?

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
Okay, hype song, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Sir, turn and crank it up, Jon jetting the Black Hearts.

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
I hate myself for loving you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
Wow. Wow, that's that's a deep dive. I like that one.
That's a good one.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
Just the opening drums on that one. We'll get you going.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
Okay, Thank you very much, it's great. I like your
hype song, Mike, what's your hype song?

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Hey, man, I just want to preface this first. I'm
almost sixty years old. So this one is called Gasolina.
It's a Hispanic Puerto Rican song, Daddy Yankee, and Man,
I'm telling you, when it plays, it gets you hyped up.

Speaker 14 (01:28:52):
All right, Man, I appreciate that, Mike, good stuff. All right,
I'm getting hype. I mean, I'm really getting hype.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
I think I can throw it ninety eight right now.
You think you're going ninety eight, I'm feeling froggy. You
got that heat, You got that heat coming. You're going?
Are you going? Both plays? Can you go? Can you
go lefty?

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
Can you go right?

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
Either way you came.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
That's it, man, submarine. If you left, the bodies hit
the floor, left the bodies at the floor.

Speaker 11 (01:29:27):
Let the bodies at the left, The bodies.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
Hit the Here's talk eleven ten nine nine three WBT
somewhere sometimes someplace. Let me tell you something. I'm serious.

(01:29:53):
Somebody got married to that song. Somebody got married. They
went down the aisle with that song. Yes they did.
Those metal people are devoted people. Greatest wedding of all.
It would be just like unbelievable. I mean, it just
would be such an unbelievable thing. All right, taking a
look at some of the other stories that are out there,
then we'll take another call. New York Attorney General Latitia
jamesondicted on federal criminal charges. We talked about that earlier.

(01:30:14):
Jerusalem Post cover features Trump in a powerful tribute He's
bringing them home. By the way, The President also met
with the President of Finland today. Now this is an
interesting sort of bypass sort of a story. But check
this out. What has the president been coveting for a

(01:30:37):
long time? Do you know what I'm talking about? What
does Canada have and that Greenland has? What do they
have access to the ice and the Arctic? President Finland's
President Trump's Finland friendship turns into a full blown you

(01:31:00):
ready for this strategy. They're doing a deal. They're doing
a deal. The Finns are doing it, and you know,
the Finns are right up on Russia like they are
right there. Fairway's friendship and a six billion dollar deal.
How Finland's president found a partner in Trump. When President

(01:31:23):
Trump and finished President Alexander Stubb sealed their latest trade
agreement on Thursday, it wasn't just a handshake for eleven
rugged ships. It was another sign of friendship that quickly
turned into strategy. Where other European leaders have tried to
win respect through policy and persuasion, Stubb, who's the President

(01:31:48):
of Finland, chose the fairway. In March, the Finnish president,
once a national golf team player, turned up at mar
A Lago, not with briefing notes, but with clubs and
challenged Trump to play golf. He challenged him to a round,

(01:32:14):
and earning something rarer than a trade deal was rapport
Trump and Stub. Stubb is six foot three, by the way,
he's fit, and he's sharply dressed in a double breasted
suit or coat, seemed to meet the moment, and when
the two last met at the White House in August,

(01:32:35):
Trump told him he looked better than ever and introduced
him as a young, powerful man. They had a chemistry
of an almost instant chemistry, and it's quietly opened the
doors for the finished president, a longtime marathoner and triathlete
with a competitive streak. What's more, it's translating into real policy,

(01:32:59):
from defense contracts to Arctic cooperation, elevating the once quiet
Nordic nation to a new high prominence. The trade deal
that was signed Thursday for eleven ships valued at six
point one billion dollars, is the latest sign of that

(01:33:22):
alignment taking shape. Under the deal, Trump approved three of
the ships to be built by Davy in Galveston, Texas
and four Bollinger shipyards in Homa, Louisiana, set up that
aligns with his maide in America strategy. So they are

(01:33:45):
now starting to build this thing out.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
See.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
You know what's interesting. You have like these people like
you go, Okay, I'm gonna go talk to the Canadian guy,
or I'm gonna go talk to the British guy, or
I'm gonna go talk to the Japanese guy, or I'm
gonna go talk like the sort of the usual sort
of suspects that you would you would think. And I
don't mean that in a disrespectful way. But Trump goes
after these other people. He goes to Cutter, he goes
to he goes to the Saudis, he goes to this guy.

(01:34:11):
He he's not he's not this guy. That's a predictable guy.
And I think if you're the president of the United States,
whoever it is, Republican or a Democrat. Okay, there is
the power of the American presidency period, full stop. Bill
Clinton had power, Obama had power, Biden even had power.

(01:34:32):
I mean, I'm just being honest. It's It's true. The
American presidency is a very important thing. But some people
wear it better than others. Right, Reagan was was was
a cut above. I think Trump's a cut above. I
think when you saw Bill Clinton come into office, originally
he was the new jack. He was the new young guy.

(01:34:54):
You know, the people were curious about him and all
that sort of stuff. But he is Trump's not predictable,
and that's I think the thing that is the most
that's the most important thing you can have, because if
you're gonna go and meet up somebody and talk to
him like he did with like he did with Vladimir Putin,

(01:35:15):
he brought him to Alaska and they had a conversation.
And Vladimir Putin is a fink and he says he's
a kami. He's not gonna do a deal. He wants
to murder people. But you think about, like the efforts
of Trump makes how can you possibly think for a
moment that like, hey, that's not really a good idea.
That's a terrible idea. You shouldn't talk to anybody now,
I should be talking to everybody. Trump's a salesman, right.

(01:35:37):
If Trump's a salesman, He's gonna try to get the sale,
no matter how he can do it, with however, whatever
and with whomever that he can do. He wants to
build something up. He just did this with the Finish guy.
Finland is right next to Russia. He doesn't need Greenland now,
he doesn't need the Arctic up in Alaska. Now he's

(01:35:59):
got real estate looking right into vlad Putin's but duty.
How about that? That's big Gary. Welcome to the show. Okay,
what's your walk up song?

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
Hey?

Speaker 7 (01:36:15):
Earlier this year I had to have a stress test.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
They asked me what music I wanted. I said, Journey
anyway you want it?

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
That's I had that pass room of rock.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
And that's a great song. Man. I appreciate that. Gary.
And how did you do with the test?

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
Do you do?

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
Okay?

Speaker 12 (01:36:30):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
I blew it out of the water way to go man.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
At the heart of a twenty year old?

Speaker 1 (01:36:34):
How about that? How I was about twenty when I
was listening to the Journey back in the day. You
know what I'm saying, that's awesome, That is awesome. Congratulations
and I really appreciate hearing from you, my friend. Thank
you very much. Thank you, and stay healthy. We need
all of our audience people to be out there. You
know what I'm saying. That's that's the thing. So when

(01:36:55):
you go back and you look right, you go back
and you look at what Trump does. He doesn't necessarily
pick the obvious person who's in the group, Like he's
not really talking to Macrone now and Macrone's in a
really bad way. He goes and he talks to other people.
Talking to the other people is where you get your
actual power. Because you've got everybody now on a different

(01:37:17):
sort of sort of a show, and they're like pick me,
pick me, pick me, pick me. Not everybody gets picked,
but if you do, you love it all right, that's
gonna do it for me. Thanks for Isaac and Lannie
and Anna and Pam and each and every one of you.
Breaking Brett Jensen's Coming up next News Talk eleven, ten

(01:37:38):
nin nine three.

Speaker 13 (01:37:39):
She loses sides.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
She said

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
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My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

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