Political Players And More On The Brett Winterble Show

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Speaker 1 (00:29):
News Talk eleven ten that an I'm three WBT. It's
the Brett Water Bull Show. It is great to be
with you, Okay, is it really great to be with you.
It's fantastic to be with you. I've waited so long
to get back together with you, and it is a
real pleasure to spend time with you, around you, behind you,
straight on. Whatever you need, whatever you need, We've got it.

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And I am very excited to look at the storylines
that are moving. And one of the things that I
think is a very important matter is understanding what this
Antifa stuff really is.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
I know this is not really something that I was
planning on leading with, but I feel like we need
to put out the fire that is raging. Okay, the
fire that is raging. I would contend to you right
now that there is no Antifa, because if you go

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back in time to the resistance movements of World War two,
they are no way, in any shape or form what
these silly people are who are running around trying to
blind ice agents, who are assaulting individual people, who are

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dosing people's houses.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
See.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Basically, here's what it comes down to. I'm a big
fan of making fun of Larper's. I think LARPers are
the most pathetic people in the universe, Larper's and Furries,
and one day there will be a reckoning between the
Furries and the LARPers.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I know this because Isaac told me.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
And the fact of the matter is, I actually was
over in Europe in nineteen ninety one and I watched
the aftermath of the collapse of the Soviet Union. I
watched the migrants who came into East Germany and West

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Germany and.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
How they were received.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
I actually was a witness to that sort of stuff
that Antifa wants to try to be. But Antifa is
not the Antifa p people here in the United States.
They're fake, their phony. They're part of the LARPing and

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the the furry movements. They pretend they put on goggles
and they wear these helmets on their heads and they
want to go try to fist fight. They want to
go try to fist fight ice agents, and they want
to try to defend trend aa arago whah wah wah

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wah did I put I didn't put enough? Oh wah
was on there? Trend a rahu wah wah, whoa whoa wagah.
That's what they want to do. They want to play,
that's what they want to do. That's what antifa is
in the United States. So let me let me break
this down for you. I'm just giving you the over

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the overhead kind of notion of what.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Is happening here.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
They want to be the Boogeyman. Okay, they want to
be the Boogeyman.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
In fact, Rob Zombie's got a tremendous song called the Boogeyman.
You look at what they want to do. They want
to do the stuff that gets.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Them like likes.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
They want to do that sort of stuff. They're not
liberating anybody, They're really not. They're just beating up on
cops and doxing them. And this is the challenge that
we face because they've they've been created to be this
like big thing that's hugely important and doing all this

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sort of stuff. You have to understand that these folks
are basically running in the same lane as when you
used to see the college kids over at Columbia University
or any other places like that, where they were camping
out and they were yelling free free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free,
free free.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
I'm not gonna say the other word I will not
say the other word, but I will go free, free, free, free, free.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Free, and it's they want free stuff over there at
the college campuses at Columbia.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
University, at at at.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
The University of California Davis, and San Francisco State University,
I could tell you about people who actually really fought fascists,
like really fought fascists in fact, in fact, if you

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want to know something, and I'm going to explain all
of this over the course of this program. There were
two saints recently canonized in the Catholic Church. One of
them is the young man Carlos Acutus. And there's another

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guy who was an actual, real, no doubt about it,
absolute hero. And he was a guy who took on
the Nazis. He didn't go get the fancy schmancy outfits

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and helmets. He went out in his suit and tie
with his friends and beat the tar out of the Nazis.
He didn't have a helmet, he didn't dox Hitler, he
didn't do any of that kind of stuff because he
didn't have the interwebs.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
But you know what he had. You know what he had.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
He had something that's missing with Antifa. He had faith
in God and Christ Almighty. You see, it's okay if
you want to go out get in a fistfight, but
it's something totally different when you are taken on the

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Nazis and you're fighting them with your bare hands, trying
to send them back where they came from. And understand
that that guy's not going around dox in Hitler. He's
not dox in Mussolini. He's not doxing people could actually

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put you in a camp and make you die. You see,
you got to understand that about Anipha. Anipha just wants
to have a show. But when it comes time to
go blow for blow, you're gonna see them walk way
down the road because they don't really want a square off.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
With a tank.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
With a.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Artillery piece.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
They don't want that because they want to go back
home at night, sit around, pop a couple of silly
beers and say, look what we did today, boys, Look
what we did today.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
I'm gonna explain it all.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
And I've known these people, I've met these people. I
respect these people, but you guys are doing it wrong, way,
way way wrong. News Talk eleven ten nine nine three

(08:32):
WBT Brett Waterbows Show. It's good to be with you
seven four or five, seven, zero, eleven ten, Reach out,
say hello, speak to the world.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
This is what's so great about this.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
This is what's so great about what we've got in
this country in this time. So this guy who wrote
the book, is his name Baales? Is it Bails? Is
that his name? The guy who wrote the anti fab book.
He's getting blowback. I do think some of the blowback
is happening because he moved to Spain and he's a
white guy, and I think there's just a number of

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different sort of things that are happening there. But I
don't really care because I'm not a fan of Antifa
in any.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Way, shape or form.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
So I want to take you guys back in time
because prologue is hugely important. Okay, in the nineteen fifties,
because you know that there was resistance that took place
in the First World War, there was resistance that took
place in the Second World War, and getting up into

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that period of time where the wars breaks out, right,
so nineteen thirty nine, the invasion of Poland, and then
of course you see the conflagration that takes place. So
in the nineteen fifties, this group Antifa that people talk about, right,
they talk about it as a formal movement was largely dormant.

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They had an anti fascist sentiment. All that means is
people try to make it sexy, right, it's sexy, and
I think when they try to make it sexy they
kind of overblow it. But basically, these were people who
were walking down the street who would get into fist
fights or dust ups or whatever it was going to be.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
With the people who were supporting.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
The Nazis and supporting obviously Benito Mussolini. They had an
anti fascist sentiment. They persisted through veterans groups, Jewish defense leagues,
and early civil rights activism, especially in Europe among the
diaspora of the communities that were out there. So you

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had a whole bunch of people who were dislocated. At
the end of World War Two and into the nineteen fifties,
they started to try to get much more active as
much as they could. But you have to remember something here.
The Antifa that you expect to see is actually more
like the offshoot of the Eastern German as opposed to

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the American values, the British values, the other values like
that as well. So there's a deeper look we can
take with the World War two anti fascist landscape in
the nineteen fifties. I did a lot of studying about
this back when I was in college. I was very

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interested in movements and politics and things like that. So
start off in Germany. Right, Germany after World War Two
is where you actually got the original what they call
antifa organization. It was if you do it in German,
it's antifa, sheist action right or antifa. It was disbanded

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by the Allied forces because they didn't need them anymore,
because they were no longer the resistance. We had beaten Germany,
we had beaten Italy, we had we had the civil
war that went on obviously over in Spain, and then
we took out Tojo right, we took out the the
the Japanese forces. So the Allied forces said, listen, go

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back to your jobs, go back to your life, go
back to your wife, go back to your wives.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Who cares.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
However, denotification efforts did continue through the state programs and
grassroots vigilance, so former communist and socialist resistance fighters remained
active in the underground networks, especially in East Germany where
the GDR right. That's the that's the East German government

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adopted what they called anti fascism right as the state's ideology.
So the the religion of the state was anti fascism,
which it doesn't really mean anything. They just meant that
these people were ready to go and get and get

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nuts with the people that they didn't like. In Italy
you had the ANPI, which is the Association of National
Partisans of Italy. They formed by World War Two Partisans
and they became an anti fascist voice. But there was
no there was no there was no fascists running around anymore.

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We killed them all. We killed them in Germany, we
killed them in Italy, or we locked them up, or
we sent them over to the Russians, or we did
all those sorts of things. Right, So there was no
reason to continue this idea of anti fascism because there
wasn't any anti fascism. The Europeans were quickly putting things
back together again. So in Italy you had these Partisans.

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They became the key anti fascist voice. Literature from this
period focused on memoirs and resistance histories.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
You see what I'm.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Saying when I tell you about antiphile wanting to be
these heroes of the war. They're seventy five eighty years
too late. We our forefathers from around the United States
went and liberated them. They really were not necessary in
the aftermath of that, except you'll see this come again

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on top of this, though, it's just stick around. Literature
from the period focused on the good old days, the memoirs,
the histories, the political tracts that were defending the legacy
of the anti Mussolini struggle.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
But there was no more Mussolini. He was gone. They
hung them.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
They hung him upside down by his fat belly button.
I mean, it was just one of those things. Okay,
it didn't really have it, this fat belly button, but
he should have.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Uk.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
The forty three Group, founded by the Jewish ex servicemen,
actively dist opted fascist rallies by Oswald Mosley's Union movement,
but there wasn't going anywhere. Their tactics physical confrontation, infiltration,
and intelligence gathering foreshadowed later Antifah methods. Their literature included

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newsletters and internal reports later chronicled in memoirs. You can
read the memoir called the forty three Group. Okay, I
read it when.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
I was in college.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
So then you come to the United States, the United
States civil rights and anti racist organizations. There was really
no antifon in the United States because everybody went back
to work except for the people that were going out
and kicking it in San Francisco. But an anti fascist
principles embedded was still there. The Jews, the Jewish defense
organizations like the Anti Defamation League, they monitored Nazi sort

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of stuff that was going on. Civil rights movements, especially
the early NAACP and the Black church networks, which were
opposed white supremacist violence and segregation. But what did you
see in the aftermath of that. You saw that America
was starting to get right with people having opportunities. I'm
gonna give you the rest of this straight ahead, all right,

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I promise I'm gonna I'm gonna tie this all up
in a big bow. Okay, So you just gotta follow
me here because there's a lot of storylines that are
out here and things are happening and all this.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
We're gonna get to everything on this issue.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
But the thing I want to I want to emphasize
on this whole idea of the stuff that's going on
with this anti fun nonsense, because they're not really doing
they're they're not being effective. They're they're not a big movement.
They're people that just want to go. I mean, you notice,
where where do they show up? They show up out

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on the West Coast, they show up in the West Coast.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
You don't even really see them in like New York City.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
You don't see him in Boston, you don't see him
in Philly, you don't see him in Miami.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
You don't see him. You don't even see them in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
And I think the reason why they're not seeing them
in Chicago the way you would think you would see them,
is because I think they're afraid to go off the
West Coast. I think it's like a West Coast kind
of fetish kind of organization.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
And it's fine.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
I mean, people get their jollies in a lot of
different ways. But the fact of the matter is it
doesn't even really exist anymore. This anti fas stuff doesn't
even really exist anymore. If you go back to the
old days in the nineteen fifties, all right, the intellectual
foundations of the antifa movement, right, they came from books

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or the origins of totalitarianism by Hannah A.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Rent. You can read that you can get that book anyplace, and.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
It dissected fascism and stalinism. There is no more fascism,
that's that's plaguing the world.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Actually no, there is. Actually I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
There is one hot bed of fascism that should be confronted.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Do you have a guess what it is? You have
any kind of a guess. I'm gonna tell you what
it is.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
It's the Islamist movements in Hamas and those sorts of
things they're not Those are not like liberation. Those are
not liberation movements. Those are movements in which you are
you are getting knocked knocked back. The authoritarian personality. That
was a book by a guy named Adorno and other

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linking fascist tendencies to psychological traits, memoirs of the of
the resistance, accounts in World War Two partisans and survivors.
That circulated a lot, but it was really small groups.
These works laid the groundwork for the militant anti fascist
revival in the seventies and the eighties.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Who was that and you know who it was? It
was punk rock.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
It was punk rock, It was angry punk rock, it
was Nazi punk rock.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
It was all that kind of stuff, and.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
They would go running around and they would get in
fights and they would do all this kind of stuff
and then people would beat them up and then they
would go away, and all that sort of anti buzz
visual identity evolved from the post World War two anti
fascist resistance to a modern day black block aesthetic. The

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literature was pulled from historical accounts. But those are not
people that exist anymore. Are there racists still?

Speaker 5 (19:45):
Hell?

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yes, of course there are. It's obvious, right, you can
see it.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
There's clan, there's people that are white power, There's all
this kind of stuff that exists out there. But those
are just tiny pockets. If you're trying to then depend
on to the broader country saying you guys, are you
guys are all racist? I don't think that's the case
at all. I think you do have pockets of people
who are intolerant, but you have pockets of people who

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are intolerant with a variety of beliefs, including street gangs,
including all that sort of stuff. Right, So you go
into the British period of time, and in Britain they
did have issues, they had big issues, but most of
those issues were handled in a terrible way because you

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had high unemployment, and people figured that black people, people
of color, people from the Caribbean, people from former British
colonies who were emigrating into the United States, I mean
emigrating into Great Britain, they were they were the people
that were being targeted. And so, as I was saying,

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when you get into like the eighties and the nineties,
you have all all of these movements that are sort
of coming around and doing their thing, and they're wearing
their black outfits, and they're they're getting in fights with Nazis,
and they're getting in fights with people who are you know,
unrestricted Confederates or whatever it is that they wanted to do.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
But it's it's it's a different it's a different thing.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
So Mark Bray's Antifa, that anti fascist book that he
published in twenty seventeen, became a seminal text. It blends history, interviews,
and theory, arguing for militant anti fascism as a legitimate
political tradition. Sure in the same way that you can
go get people who want to march around and and

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and and and get in fights and do things like that.
Bray defines antifah as a pan left radical politics uniting anarchists, socialists,
and communists against the far right. They've always there's always
been those people. You go all the way back to
the early days, the early days of here. You can

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watch the movie Reds. Go watch the movie Reds and
you'll see the Warren Baty movie that he put out
in like nineteen eighty one or eighty three, and you
can see it's the elongation of the leftist priority to
try to turn the United States of America into a
Soviet satellite. That's basically what you've got going on there,

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except for one thing. When the wall came down in
the nineteen nineties, Okay, you see the wall starting to crack.
Who was it that was responsible for the wall coming down?
In large measure? It was Ronald Reagan. Well, we're no
longer going to be dealing with Gorbacheff anymore. It was

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Margaret Thatcher, it was Lek Wallensa, and it was somebody else.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
It was somebody else. Do you know who it was?

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Pope John Paul the Second was the most effective person
to take that wall down, because he made the efforts
behind the Iron Curtain to get people to start to
resist against the Russians and the Soviets and the Soviet
satellite states. And as a result of that, Ali aji

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Kah tried to murder the Pope in the popemobile back
in nineteen what was it eighty one?

Speaker 2 (23:31):
He had just become the pope and he was shot.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
And you know what Ali aji Ka got for that,
He got jailed, He got jailed, and he got forgiven
by John Paul the second said I forgive you for
shooting me. And what else happened? Ronald Reagan got shot
by John Hinckley Junior. And when Ronald Reagan met with
the Pope, they had an instant bond because both of

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them had an assassination attempt brought against them. And Margaret
Thatcher would be the third person of that because she
went to the Tory gathering and the Irra let off
a bomb and a half that almost killed her. So

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the three people, isn't that interesting? The three people? Is
it a trinity? No, it's just a it's a coincidence.
The three leaders trying to break the back of the
Soviet Union all had their lives nearly taken. And Leq Wallensa,
It's amazing he was never he was never killed. Working

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on the Gadansk Docs. So what they were doing was
they were trying to bring about a revolution for the
freedom of the.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
People who were there.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
The people that go out there and they punch out people,
and they fight with people in the streets, and they
do all this sort of stuff. That's that's fine. I mean,
I guess you can go and do that stuff. That's
if that's your that's your game. But the fact of
the matter is they the last time that they were
really relevant, and I'm being serious and I'm not being facetious.
I'm not joking around about this was when the wall

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came down and you had a migration of people coming
in from the former Unfree States right East Germany, all
the countries that went all the way down to the
to Albania and beyond, and those people started pouring into
Europe because they didn't have any jobs. And you did

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have some very angry people who wanted to go and
fight these people and stop these people and get aggressive
with these people and all of that sort of stuff.
But that was just a flare up over a period
of time. Left wing autonomous support it was there. Yes,
anti fog groups, Yes, they were there. West Germany. They

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had those going on. You add people who were raising
money with concerts. You had people who were saying that
they were gonna help these people. They were doing all
of this sort of stuff. But the fact of the
matter is you'd be hard pressed now to look back
and say, geez, look they have assimilated and so, yes,

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Antifa is an interesting thing to read about, but it's
kind of like looking back and saying, you know what
I want. I want to be part of the know
nothing movement. I want to be part of fifty four
forty or fight. I want to go and be a
part of the Whig Party. It's just not it's just

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not going to be a thing that's gonna take off.
I mean, you can definitely research it, you can do it,
you can push it whatever you want. But the fact
of the matter is, ladies and gentlemen, it's it's good
that they're gone. And I guess Antifuss just trying to
resurrect it and see what happens.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
I don't know what it's going to look like.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
News Talk eleven ten, That and I'm three WBT Brett
Whatebow Show.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Good to be with you, Bill, Welcome to the program.
What's on your Mind? Bill?

Speaker 6 (27:21):
Hey, just wanted to share with you and see if
you knew anything about this movie coming out in a
couple of days called Truth and Treason, about some German
teenagers who fought the Nazis by giving kind of a
podcast of the day.

Speaker 7 (27:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
From what I've read about it, it's about a sixteen
year old named Helmuth Hubner who puts together a resistance
group with friends, and one of the guys is Carl
and they do this after his Jewish friends Nazis arrest
and they built their actions on trying to undermine what

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the Nazis were doing. It looks like a very compelling movie.
I do want to see it, but I don't know
a whole lot more about it other than what I've
come across in some of the reviews.

Speaker 6 (28:18):
Sure, that's exactly what I'm reading right on the Google account.
So I just think it would be real good And
also just a little plug for our American Story, which
is on for Let's See five nights a week from

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twelve to one, and then on Saturdays it's on from
ten to one, so that's on WBT. It's a great
program for any who stay up late. A lot of
great historical stuff and stories of the wild West and
just contemporary stories of contemporary Americans who I'll live in

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a good life with some successes.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
That's phenomenal. Yeah, absolutely, and it's such a great program.
I appreciate you checking it would be Bill. Thank you
so much, sir.

Speaker 6 (29:15):
You're welcome, bye by bye.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Absolutely so So one of the things that I was
talking about the very beginning of the hour, I was
mentioning a couple of saints, and so Pierre Giorgio Frasadi.
He fought the devil through his life in faith, charity,
and of course steadfastness, but he was also somebody who
defended his family. He was someone who was responsible for

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doing that sort of stuff. And I think it's just
so interesting because you have people who are very interested
in things like Antifah and organizations and violent groups and
things like that. But the main fight that we should
all have is the fight with the devil.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Right we should we should not bend on.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
To the evil that exists out there, because by and
large we know exactly how this turns out.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Number one.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Number two, the biggest fight we have is one within
our own and this particular young man, he only lived
to be twenty five. He was born in nineteen oh one.
In fact, my wife introduced me to this storyline I
had not been familiar with. He stood strong against opposition

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from his own family who were anti clerical. They didn't
want him to become a person that was going to
be a person of faith and all this sort of stuff.
And on one occasion he actually withstood a physical attack
by fascists who broke into his home and started beating him. Now,
this man had polio and he still fought him off.

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During a student rally in Rome, for Sadi held a
banner high after police knocked it out of someone's hands,
and he stood there at the banner with the poll
and fend it off blows while holding the symbol of
his faith. Firm that that is amazing. His battle was

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fought daily in the pursuit of holiness.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
This is my recital. I think it's very vital.

Speaker 8 (31:26):
That's right on top, that's right on Tom's chicken.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Oh, it's my favorite time of the week when I
get to catch up with coach Matt Doherty. It is
a pleasure to have you on the program once again.
We are back together and better than ever.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
How are you doing their coach.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Ah doing great, man doing great. Thanks for having me on, Brett.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
It's my pleasure. Absolutely, it's absolutely my pleasure. Let's let's
take a look at a couple of different things here.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Number one, certainly a huge development with the President of
the United States going over to get the hostages rescued
and the certain change that we're hoping for, But we
have to wait and see how this is going to go.
Your reaction, your thoughts to what it is that we
saw just in these last days.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Yeah, it's pretty impressive the fact that Trump could connect
and leverage the power of the United States, and I
think he showed it by bombing and Iran nuclear site
and also taking out some drug running boats that he's

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not afraid right to use the power that we have.
But through the power comes peace. And I think that
the white hat, which is America and Trump is leveraging
that and shows it off enough that people respect him.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
Right.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
And then then the ability to connect with all these
different what thirty countries to come together in the Middle East, Uh,
to to come to this peace treaty is really amazing.
And this takes a lot of effort and energy, which

(33:23):
I'm so I'm amazed at his level of energy. I
mean as a as a man, and you know what,
seventies to do the things that he does all day long,
every day at such a high level is truly amazing.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
So from from your perspective visiting with coach Matt Doherty,
from your perspective, is this going to be a one
and done or do you feel like he's going to
have to be involved in this moving forward on a
on a on a regular basis.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
I think with anything you know, and I say this
in my executive coaching practice. You know, I relate so
many things to sports. You know when when you know
Dean Smith or Roy Williams or Nick Saban or Mike Ssaski,
at the beginning of the season, they talk about, you know,
what does success look like? And you know we're going

(34:23):
to go into you know, a hostile territory, whether it
be at North Carolina, like the first day of practice,
all right, our goal is to win the ACC championship
and win a national championship. Well, to do that, we
have to train. We can't just talk about it once
and not revisit it. You can't just say the first
day of practice, Hey, we're going to go into Durham

(34:47):
and beat Duke at Duke and let's run through some
drills and put in our offense and defense and I'll
meet you in four months in Durham and we'll win.
You know, it takes repetition, accountability.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
You know.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
The thing that always made me nervous as a coach
is when I had a big lead at halftime or
I was on a winning streak, because I was afraid
that people would let their guard down. And one of
my favorite coaching quotes is from Jeff van Gundy, and
he said, do not accept in victory what you would
not in defeat. Right, So what does that mean? It

(35:27):
means the process, It means accountability, It means repetition, repetition, repetition,
and just because things are going well doesn't mean you
can take your foot off the gas or your eye
off the price.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Hugely important. So how do you how do you assess
the upcoming season?

Speaker 9 (35:47):
Here?

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Coach, it's going to be here before we know it.
What are you? What are you feeling about this?

Speaker 6 (35:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:53):
You know what's weird today? When I was playing and
when I was coaching, October fifth, fifteenth was the official
start of practice.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
How about that?

Speaker 3 (36:03):
And it was, so it's it's such a great day
and it's etched in my memory, in my heart, my
soul because when I played, it was the day we
ran the mile and and for time and if you
got if you made your time, you got out of sprints,
and you got to eat dessert at the team meal.
It was the day where everyone I had hope for

(36:26):
a great season and you got to put on that
practice uniform and you got to put on the game
jersey for the pictures, and you know, the shoes, and
you know, just the energy and the the the weather,
you know, the changing of the seasons, the little crisper
good good uh, you know, wearing sweats into the offense

(36:49):
and really focusing on what's ahead. What does the season
look like? I have no freaking idea because there's so
much change, you know, with the transfer portal and the nil.
You don't know what rosters look like like. I couldn't

(37:11):
I couldn't tell you who I think the starting five
would be at North Carolina this year.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Well that's fascinating, that's fascinating, Coach Doherty. Final question for you,
actually one and a half questions for you. Number one
is Belichick long for this job.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Well, listen, the dudes whatever. I hate to do the
ages and things, but you know, just do the math.
At seventy two, he's not long for yeah, you know,
probably not long for the job. However, however, listen, he's
a victim of his own success. So the hype was

(37:52):
over the top, right. The coach cannot step on the
flit field and throw the ball, catch the ball, make
the tackle. And to his credit, he has not thrown
his team under the bus. They are like seventy new players.
And when he got involved late in the recruiting process.

(38:15):
You know, he's recruiting you know, secondary level players, five
star players. So he doesn't have great players, all right,
I can say that. He can't say that. He shouldn't
say that, all right. He's talking about the process. Yes, listen,
mac Brown in his first two years the first time around,
went one in ten, one in ten, and then he

(38:37):
got the team into the top ten in the country
and a year or two later. It takes time, and
people want a microwave success. Now, you can't do that
when you're building large organizations, which a football team is
a large organization.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Right, great, great stuff, coach, So where do people go
if they want to get coached by you, the coach.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Well, thank you. I actually refreshed my website nice and
so I would love people to go to Darny coaching
dot com. That's d O h e r t Y
coaching dot com.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Great stuff. Always appreciate your perspective. Coach.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Thank you so much for being here and we I
can't wait to catch up with you again soon, my friend.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Yeah, yeah, tell Isaac to call me next time.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
You got it.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
News talk A left ten N nine three WBD. Let's
jump out and talk to Jim in San Diego. Jim,
welcome to the program.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
What's on your mind?

Speaker 5 (39:46):
Yes, coach, it's so good to hear from coach again.

Speaker 7 (39:50):
Yes, he's absolutely right.

Speaker 5 (39:52):
It takes a long time to build good, solid organizations.
That's why I've been calling in for a years now.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
How many years? No, not eight years. You've been calling
it eight years? Are you sure it's eight years?

Speaker 6 (40:07):
Eight years?

Speaker 2 (40:08):
It's not eight years.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
I've only been here five years. I've only been here
five years, Jim.

Speaker 5 (40:14):
Yeah, but I was calling in when you were in
San Diego. You were there for two years.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
No, No, it doesn't count.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
I mean it does count, but it doesn't count. Jim,
I need to tell you something. Yes, sir, I got
a ballot from California.

Speaker 5 (40:32):
Again.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yes, it goes to my house.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
It goes to my house, like it goes to my
house here, and I'm not going to tell you where
here is, but it goes to my house.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
And I keep getting them and they will not.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
I sent, I sent a note to Gavin and I
said stop it, and they're not stopping it.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Are they? Are they trying to Are they trying to
entrap me? Are they trying to me? Jim?

Speaker 5 (41:01):
No, No, I've already talked to the California our registrar
of voters, and they gave me your address. So it's okay.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Oh wow, all right, hold on a minute, No seriously,
but honey, honey, sell the house tonight.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
We got to get out. Gym's on the way.

Speaker 6 (41:18):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
So we've got some good news. We have some good
people that are countering this reign of a corruption and socialism.
They they've they seem to think that their entire purpose
is to keep them in power anyway they can, for
all perpetuity.

Speaker 7 (41:36):
But anyway we have today we.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
Had a good man coming to a rally in my
hometown here of in Lakeside. He did was at the
VFW hall and he was helping people understand how important
was to vote no on Proposition fifty. They keep trying
to run double speak ads. Get this this, yes, jerry mandering, Yes,

(42:02):
redistricting thing floated out. They have high rotation ads. And
he's a Karl Demyah was the primary focus was on that.
He also was talking about the voter reform. He's working diligently. Okay,
he worked through the entire system get voter reforms. So
when this these elections come up, especially the Proposition fifty

(42:25):
ballot initiative.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
I've never been propositioned. Excuse me, I've never been propositioned.
I'm happy. I'm I'm happy. I'm out of California. I
don't want to be propositioned.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
Well, your wife proposition? Are you right?

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:39):
You Jim? What you see what he did? He killed
the show. The show is dead. Jim, you killed the show.
This is the first time. What is wrong? Oh my god?

Speaker 1 (42:58):
What?

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (43:00):
I have to move because he he apparently has got
my information and we now have to I need to
I need to then relocate where shold anybody got any
ideas where I had to go relocate somewhere within the
region of the of where we are because I because
I'm a free Jim's gonna come over to my house
and I'm no, Well, sometimes you are, Jim.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
I can't believe that's like the life after death things.
He's still talking to me. Hey, he killed the show.
He killed the show, all right.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
I have a person from the eighth three phone number.
I'm not going to mention names or anything, and this person,
this person sent me a very very terse note about
the way I was talking about Andy fa But let me,
let me, let me give you this because even Chris Murphy,
even Chris Murphy doesn't believe it. Chris Murphy knows this

(43:51):
is just a game. They're just trying to create problems.
Listen to this clip cut number twenty six, Murphy talking
to who else MSNBC letter rip.

Speaker 10 (44:04):
Have we flipped already into the authoritarianism?

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Is there a way out?

Speaker 10 (44:08):
I mean, give us your unvarnished thoughts here.

Speaker 9 (44:12):
Well, listen, I mean, we are not on the verge
of an authoritarian takeover. We're in the middle of it now.
It's not too late. We haven't lost our democracy. But
you know, We sometimes like to think of the first
term Donald Trump, you know, the bumbling White House that
didn't seem to have any theory of the case. From
day to day, this is a very different white House, right,

(44:33):
Stephen Miller.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
And his gang, they have a plan.

Speaker 9 (44:36):
They have a plan that they are executing to transition
our country from democracy to something fundamentally different, maybe even autocracy.
And that's what I tried to lay out on the
floor today is how this plan is being operationalized every
single day.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
But no, it is not a lost cause.

Speaker 9 (44:54):
Ultimately, what we know from history is that when a
big enough portion of the population the n normally around
two percent show up to protests, are regularly engaged in
peaceful civic action.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
Enough sam gets thrown in.

Speaker 9 (45:06):
The gears of the attempt to destroy the democracy, they
end up saving it. So we have an opportunity in
these elections this November to send a signal.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
We have an.

Speaker 9 (45:15):
Opportunity through the protests on October eighteenth, to show the
country in the world that we aren't lying down. So
this is a serious moment. It's almost lost, but it's
definitely not lost yet.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
How can he say that I got thoughts straight ahead.

Speaker 6 (45:44):
All right.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
We played that clip and I threw to.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
The I threw to Keith Young because we were up
against it. But Chris Murphy thinks that we're actually not
losing our democracy. He starts off with, oh, yeah, everything
is everything is really terrible. You know what, Let's just
play this again because I think it's worth hearing. People
are coming in and going out all the time. Quite now,
fire up Chris Murphy again.

Speaker 10 (46:08):
Please have we flipped already into the authoritarianism?

Speaker 4 (46:11):
Is there a way out?

Speaker 10 (46:12):
I mean, give us your unvarnished thoughts here.

Speaker 9 (46:17):
Well, listen, I mean, we are not on the verge
of an authoritarian takeover. We're in the middle of it now.
It's not too late. We haven't lost our democracy. But
you know, we sometimes like to think of the first
term Donald Trump, you know, the bumbling White House that
didn't seem to have any theory of the case from
day to day. This is a very different white House, right,

(46:37):
Stephen Miller and his gang they have a plan. They
have a plan that they are executing to transition our
country from democracy to something fundamentally different, maybe even autocracy.
And that's what I tried to lay out on the
floor today is how this plan is being operationalized every
single day.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
But no, it is not a lost cause.

Speaker 9 (46:58):
Ultimately, what we know from history is that when a
big enough portion of the population the numbers normally around
two percent show up to protests, are regularly engaged in
peaceful civic action.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
Enough sam gets thrown in.

Speaker 9 (47:11):
The gears of the attempt to destroy the democracy, they
end up saving it. So we have an opportunity in
these elections this November to send a signal. We have
an opportunity through the protests on October eighteenth, to show
the country in the world that we aren't lying down.
So this is a serious moment. It's almost lost, but
it's definitely not lost yet.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
What a what a fake phony. We're all gonna die.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
It's terribly so. I don't ever want to hear from
another Democrat again. I don't ever want to hear them
say the democracy. The democracy is in danger. There's been
so much danger. He's just a matter of fact about this.
And honestly, Chris Murphy, he's a guy from Connecticut, so
I will say he's not a wacko from California. It's

(47:57):
like about the best thing I can say about him.
He's not a wacko. He's obviously a guy who's you know,
risen in the in the ranks. I'm not he's not
my cup of tea. But whatever, I mean, I don't care.
But he's gonna have differences.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
I'm not looking like we're gonna go to war or
anything like that. But how come you go on television
and you say democracy is anything, that the norms are
all dead, the norms are gone, the norms are terrible.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Oh, there's all this sort of somebody, I'll open it up.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Tell me the thing that makes you believe that the
democracy is in danger.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Just tell me what it is.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
The government's been shut down by Chuck Schumer, not by
Donald Trump. Donald Trump has to try to balance the
the books so that people can get paid, like people.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
In the military can get paid. All right.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
That that that's that's a that's a force of of
of nature in that regard.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
But I mean, when you look at all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
And they're they're saying that this is the worst time
ever in history.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Is it really the worst time ever in history?

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Are you still getting paid at your job? Are you
getting money? Are you are you doing what you're still doing.
I mean, this is this is this is kind of wacko,
is it? It's actually very wacko. Now the President I
SAT's is taking reporter questions. One of the things that
they were talking about earlier today was obviously safety security

(49:22):
and UH and and law and order. And so I
want to play a clip for you guys that I
think is an interesting one and it is going to.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Be cut number What cut? What cut is this going
to be?

Speaker 1 (49:36):
It is going to be cut number twenty nine. So
this is Dan Bongino talking to Sean Hannity last night
and he sort of tips his hand. Bongino sort of
tips his hand as to what the next big investigation
is going to be cut twenty nine.

Speaker 11 (49:51):
I want to say this. You know, the FBI obviously
has the public corruption portfolio. And yes, if you are
a corrupt politician out there, if you are engaged in
behavior and you know what you're doing, uh, We're gonna
find you.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
I promise.

Speaker 11 (50:07):
No one is going to get off the days of
selecting and putting your partisan bias on and taking care
of your friends, and those days are over. You know what, Sean,
I don't have any friends. I don't want any friends.
Well maybe outside of you, and I don't care. I
didn't come here for the money. I didn't come here
to maybe I know.

Speaker 12 (50:23):
You don't love there for the money.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
I can come here to make friends. I don't give
a damn about friends. I don't have any friends. I
don't want any friends.

Speaker 11 (50:30):
I got my wife, I got you, and I got
a small crew of people, so I don't need any friends.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
I think that this is a guy who is looking
with an eye towards more prosecutions, like what we're seeing with.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Tish James.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
I think that's what's he's probably looking at. But who's
it going to be, Who's going to be next? How's
this going to happen?

Speaker 2 (51:01):
What? What is going to occur? How does this all work?

Speaker 1 (51:05):
You know when you when you sit back here and
you say, now, wait a minute, what is what?

Speaker 2 (51:11):
What is going on here? News Talk eleven.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Ten not in nine three WBT coming up in the
next hour. We got Gordon G. Chang joining us. I'm
excited for that. Your phone calls are always welcome seven
oh four five, seven oh eleven ten, and you can
always reach out to us. WBT text line driven by
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as the call in number seven O four five seven

(51:44):
zero eleven ten. I'm really excited by the way coming
up on the what's the what's the date of the
news and Bruce, that's going to be on the what.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Is the date? I know when it is? Yeah, I
do know what it is. It's coming up next week.
It's gonna be awesome. Trying to trick me. Okay, it's revolting.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
This is a story that bothers me severely, Okay, and
I mean severely. All Right, it's revolting. This is a
piece out of Politico. More young Republican Chat members out
of jobs as condemnation intensifies. So people are talking about
this is a very important story, and it's a terrible story.

(52:30):
Politico's report on the private telegram chat filled with racist
slurs and tropes ignites debates.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
From New York to Washington.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
This is a very ugly chapter that that should not
have occurred, but here it is. Two more members of
a young Republican group chat strewn with racist epithets and
hateful jokes, stepped down from their jobs Tuesday after Politico
published an exclusive report on the telegram exchanges Peter Junta,

(53:07):
his time working with a New York Assembly member, Mike
Riley has ended. The Republican lawmaker said Junta served as
a chair of the New York State Young Republicans when
that chat took place. Joseph Melino, who also previously identified

(53:28):
himself as the general counsel for that group, is no
longer an employee of the New York Unified Court System.
Courts spokespeople confirmed. Another chat member, Vermont State Senate Sam Douglas,
faced mounting calls for his resignation as well, including from

(53:49):
the States Governor Phil Scott, a Republican, and douglas fellow
Republican lawmakers, who called his statements deeply disturbing. So Politico's
in depth look into how one group of Young Republicans
spoke was met Tuesday with widespread condemnation in New York, Washington,

(54:11):
and beyond. The members of the chat, twenty nine hundred
pages of which were leaked and reviewed by Politico, called
black people monkeys, repeatedly used slurs for gay, black, Latino
Asian people, and jokingly celebrated Adolf Hitler.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
We don't need these people in the party.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
These people in the party need to go I mean
that is that is just absolutely a fact. Who the
hell wants people like that around you? If you, if you,
if you cannot, if you cannot be straight up and
deal appropriately with people, Maybe no, I'm not, MA, you

(55:00):
are not welcoming the party.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Don't even vote. Don't even vote for Republicans.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
In a bipartisan outcry, members of Congress and other political
leaders from around the country said they were appalled by
the contents of the group chat. The board of directors
of the National Young Republicans said every member of that
chat must immediately resign their state organization. Senate Minority Leader

(55:32):
Chuck Schumer, speaking on the Senate floor, described the chat
as revolting and disgusting.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Which it is.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
If this is, if this report is accurate, every single
Republican leader from oh from President on down.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Yeah, they should. They should condemn this. I have no
I have no issue with condemning this.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Political writing Vice President Jade Vance had a different view
and broke with Republicans who broadly condemned the comments within
the chat on x on Tuesday night, Vance drew attention
to Democratic candidate for Virginia Jay Jones, who texted a
colleague about shooting the then Republican House speaker and wishing

(56:17):
harm on his children. This is far worse than anything
has been said in a college chat group. And the
guy who said it could become the the the age
of Virginia.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
No no, no, no, no, no, no no no.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Hold on a second, Jay Jones needs to walk out
on this race. But he's not going to do that
because he's just he just wants to be a politician.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Okay, I get it, I understand it. But this is terrible.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
This is I mean, I think this is I think
this is uh, this this is awful. John, Welcome to
the program.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
What's on your mind?

Speaker 7 (56:50):
John, Hey Brett, how are you doing, buddy?

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Doing good?

Speaker 4 (56:52):
Thanks?

Speaker 6 (56:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (56:54):
Well, when this story broke yesterday with the Young Republicans,
you know obviously that uh sent some shockwaves to the
party and the uh. The national co chairman of the
Young Republicans is actually from North Carolina. She lives in
this area. And they came out yesterday with a strong
good uh uh uh against this thing and have demanded

(57:19):
their resignations from the organization altogether. And if they don't,
I think we're going to see them removed.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Good good, Yeah, Look, we don't. There's no need for
any of this to happen. There's no need to be
indecent and slur laced exchanges. And by the way, everybody
knows that that that this is exactly wrong. And I
appreciate you calling John and and raising that issue. It's
a very important point, my friend.

Speaker 7 (57:48):
Yeah, it's you know, these kids, you know, I think
they were just trying to be goofy or whatnot, but
it was stupid and they ruined their future. I mean
they they I mean they're gonna have a our time.
You're getting any job in the next decade because of.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
This, no doubt about it.

Speaker 7 (58:05):
Just goes to tell you never put stuff in writing
because the Internet lives forever.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
It lives forever and exactly and you know what we
want the we don't even want the near occasion of
that sort of thing happening.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Great stuff.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
That's John joining me. Uh put me down as a no.
I mean, this is terrible. We have so much great
potential to do great things. Stop making up of yourself.

(58:56):
There's talk eleven ten nine three w et Brett Winterblell
Show Great be with you seven oh four five seven
oh eleven ten. I've still got some really great sound
that I want to go back to.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
So let's do this. Okay, I'm willing.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
I'm willing to invite one person to translate what I'm
about to play, because I I'm a pretty smart person.
This is cut number twenty three. I double dog dare
you to tell me what the heck is going on
at CNN on yesterday Cut twenty three.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Please go.

Speaker 8 (59:35):
If there's a police officer or an ICE agent whose
picture is put up in a group chat on Facebook
that is about ice and it says, let's expose this person,
somebody tell me who he is, where he lives.

Speaker 13 (59:47):
Okay, I'm gonna be a real with you.

Speaker 12 (59:48):
You think that's not docs.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
It's definitely only think that's no.

Speaker 13 (59:52):
Dockson is when you actually pay somebody's personal identifiable information PII,
which is an email, adress, phone number.

Speaker 10 (59:57):
Or I'm not saying that.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
What you're saying isn't. I'm saying dangerous.

Speaker 13 (01:00:01):
I'm not saying it doesn't. It's not when to these
not up to me a subject definition.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
This is wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
How can we debate doxing is? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Like, this is why this is why nobody watches CNN anymore.
I'm dead serious about this. Once in a blue moon,
if there's a big national story happening, if there's some
big national story or international story, I will go put
on the CNN because there's a lot of chuckle. There's
a lot of chuckle that goes on over at Fox.

(01:00:49):
There's a lot of chuckle that goes on over at
m S, NBC. And sometimes when when I when I
can't listen to, hey let's make an omelet, or hey
let's hate Donald Trump, I I I have to go
to I have to go over there. I have to
go and look at what's going on over at you know,
at at CNN, because you're talking about like, Okay, what's

(01:01:09):
actually really happening, what's Hamas doing, what's this other stuff
going on. They've obviously got relationships with people on the
ground over there. And I'm sorry, but I mean, I
just I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
I can't live another day listening to oh, look, this
is a cookie. I mean, I need actual real news,
and a lot of times I find it lacking a
little bit specifically, but pretty much every weekend. But anyways,
but CNN, they're just yelling at each other and they're
making any sense and it doesn't matter to me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Ah is it a Well did you really this is
a one point three five two eight? Well what is that?
I don't know what that is to me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
I think Ben Ferguson, who's taking on like I think
about six people. Why don't they ever bring in Scott Jennings.
Well I need Scott Jennings and Ben Ferguson the rest
of these people. It's like a melting down version of.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
The view of the view.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
It is so bad, it is so bad, But I
got something even worse. You need to know this, You
need this, You need this right now. Mike Johnson came out.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Hold on.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Mike Johnson came out earlier today and he laid down
the law with what these leftists want to spend money on.
They don't want to pay the people in the military.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
They want to pay this. Get ready for this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Hold on to the steering wheel, be of good cheer
cut number twenty five, Mike Johnson on the junk that
the d's want to spend on.

Speaker 14 (01:02:49):
And they would send a half a billion dollars to
liberal news outlets by refunding the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
It would also restore up to five billion dollars of
American taxpayer funds for wasteful spending for international projects.

Speaker 12 (01:03:04):
Here's a couple of examples.

Speaker 14 (01:03:06):
This is in their legislation, their counter proposal on the
cr to keep the lights open.

Speaker 12 (01:03:10):
This is what they want to do. They want to
spend twenty four point.

Speaker 14 (01:03:12):
Six million of your hard earned dollars as a taxpayer
for climate resilience in Honduras. They want to spend thirteen
point four million for civic engagement in Zimbabwe.

Speaker 12 (01:03:23):
They want to send three point nine million.

Speaker 14 (01:03:25):
For LGBTQI plus democracy grants and the Western Balkans. They
want to spend two point nine million of your dollars
for desert locust risk reduction in the Horn of Africa
and two million for quote organizing for feminist democratic principles
in Africa.

Speaker 12 (01:03:42):
We are not doing that.

Speaker 14 (01:03:44):
These are unserious proposals from unserious people, and they are
playing games while real Americans are being harmed adversely by
the shutdown.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
So one of my favorite congress people of all the
congress people, one of my favorite Congress people is Virginia Fox.
And I'm telling you right now, let me tell you this.
The Speaker of the House, the Speaker of the House
has got standing right next to him, Virginia Fox. And

(01:04:16):
I gotta tell you something. Virginia Fox is tough. She
is tough, she is resolved, and she is standing there
looking at all of the press as if to say, you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Guys really think that we should be doing this stuff?
What is wrong with you?

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
Please?

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
I need it one more time? Can you give it
to me one more time? Isaac? I need to hear
this one more time because this is just so bonkers.
I can't take it go.

Speaker 14 (01:04:42):
And they would send a half a billion dollars to
liberal news outlets by refunding the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
It would also restore up to five billion dollars of
American taxpayer funds for wasteful spending for international projects.

Speaker 12 (01:04:57):
Here's a couple of examples.

Speaker 14 (01:04:59):
This is in their legislation, their counter proposal on the
seer to keep the lights open.

Speaker 12 (01:05:03):
This is what they want to do.

Speaker 14 (01:05:04):
They want to spend twenty four point six million of
your hard earned dollars as a taxpayer for climate.

Speaker 12 (01:05:09):
Resilience in Honduras.

Speaker 14 (01:05:11):
They want to spend thirteen point four million for civic
engagement in Zimbabwe.

Speaker 12 (01:05:16):
They want to send three point nine million for.

Speaker 14 (01:05:18):
LGBTQI plus democracy grants and the Western Balkans. They want
to spend two point nine million of your dollars for
desert locust risk reduction in the Horn of Africa and
two million for quote organizing for feminist democratic.

Speaker 12 (01:05:33):
Principles in Africa. We are not doing that.

Speaker 14 (01:05:37):
These are unseerious proposals from unserious people, and they are
playing games while real Americans are being harmed adversely by
the shutdown.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
I mean, it's absolutely incredible. It's absolutely incredible. We are
trying to run a very serious operation here and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
This is not This is not serious that with shape
or form.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Now News Talk eleven ten three w BT. Okay, let's
take a look. It's been a while and I and
I've been told not to talk about this, but I

(01:06:35):
am going to do it. As much as people don't
want me to talk about this. I know Isaac does
not want me to talk about this because every time
I talk about science, he gets upset, he gets mad
at me because I'm no doubt talking about the space
vehicles that are coming our way. And I gotta tell you,

(01:06:56):
this is a this is a big deal. This is
a this is a very very big deal. That we
are dealing with the three Eye Atlas. Three Eye Atlas
is happening.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
It's going to be here before you know it. And
I know there's people that don't want to believe it,
but it is. You got to get ready. I would
say start picking out your I would say, start picking
out your sweater for the event. The event sweater interstellar comet.

(01:07:30):
This is the headline.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Interstellar comet three I Atlas is spewing water like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
A cosmic fire hydrant. That's incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Analysis of its emissions using NASA's Neil Girell's Swift Observatory
indicate that the interstellar comet probably has a very different
structure than comets in the Solar System. Well, remember this

(01:08:04):
thing's giant, I mean it's super massive giant.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Comet.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Three Eye Atlas continues to be full of surprises, as
well as being only the third interstellar object after detected.
New analysis shows that it is producing hydroxyl emissions with
these compounds, betraying the presence of water on its surface.

(01:08:30):
We're gonna get spacewater. People will be buying it at
the supermarket. You're gonna have ai at LISS three IA
aut lists as many Atlases as.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
You need it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
So it's gonna be incredible. You're gonna have some of
that water. Would you drink space water?

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
You would?

Speaker 11 (01:08:50):
You have?

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
You do?

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Where do you think this water we got from here?

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
We do?

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
You think they shipped it in? You think they brought
in the trucks and just and just started pouring it somewhere?

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Old school man, I'm a dysony myself. You're what Dasonisani?

Speaker 5 (01:09:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Desani? What is Dosani? I don't even know what that.
I never heard of a fantastic one, never.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Heard of it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Never. I'm not going down that road. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
I know, I know, I know my limits. But but
this is this is gonna be something. This is gonna
be something spectat You're gonna be able to say I
was there when Oh no, we do have another We
do have another entry on this topic.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
This is this is not as happy. This does not
make me happy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
New paper on the interstellar object three I Atlas has
a they're starting to break down some of the stuff
that's there. Yeah, apparently it's got cyanide as well. Yeah, no,
you go ahead have that reaction. There's a cyanide thing

(01:10:01):
involved with this. It's also got an anti tail, which
I have no idea what that is because I don't
know science.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
But here's the thing I do know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
I don't want any cyanide coming here. Are they trying
to Are they gonna try to gas the planet?

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
And then to sell it to somebody else. I don't
like this. You're drinking the cyanod spacewater. No it's not.
This is just regular leblue.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
I mean, I'm just telling you, I'm drinking the regular
leblue and apparently, but there is evidence of a cyanide.
I don't need anything. I don't need any cyanide for
any particular reason. No way, no how, sit your butt down,
because that's that's really what we're what we're looking at. Remember,

(01:10:44):
this thing is over thirty three billion tons, and you
can put a lot of cyanide in there. What if
this thing's like what if this is like a like
a like a a suicide bomber and they're sending it
to us, They're like, let's just wipe these guys out.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
We don't need this.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
We can set up we can we can make this
really nice. This is this is a very a planet
with very great potential. Nobody wants to listen to me.
I'm right, what do they know? They're not even gonna
know what's gonna happen. They're gonna be so busy when
this thing passes by their planet. They're gonna be so busy,
gonna be passing out, drinking and partying and waving essa

(01:11:24):
n And they don't even know what we're about to
do to them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
I see. That's what makes me nervous. I kind of
feel like, I kind of feel like I gotta be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
It's gotta be like Maduro and and and from the
sky just comes kaplue kapluey, kopluey.

Speaker 4 (01:11:45):
What do we do?

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
I mean, I'm not Maduro, None of us are Maduro.
Maduro is a terrible human being. But it's kind of
like you think about it, It's like, hey, what's going
on out there? What the heck is that coming?

Speaker 15 (01:11:58):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Meduro moved up Christmas to October. Did you know that
I read this?

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
I said this last night.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
He actually he took the COMI calendar and amputated like
two months and said, listen, we're making it Christmas.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
You know why I think, I think because he says,
you know, he doesn't really know, but he knows one thing.
He's been naughty, he's not been nice, and his number
is coming up. So I mean, I'm just telling you
very very strange. But he did move it up. He
moved he moved Meduro moved up by two months Christmas.

(01:12:38):
Did he make up some new months on the back end.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Now, that would be awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
You know, Paul Pott did that stuff like Paul Pot
was like horrific, and they he wanted to take Cambodia
to year zero.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
That was the ideology.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
So he wanted and he took all the intellectuals, all
the people that had any kind of talent, all the
stuff like that, and put them all in camps and
killed them, killed them all.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
And then he took the people.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Who were not educated, who were willing to play the
game and all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
That's what ended up happening. Man, Paul Pot.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
That's this.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
This guy is this, I mean Poule Pot Pole Pot
would make h little Rocketman blush like for for the
horrific stuff that that that guy did. And so that's
that's that's kind of a problem right there. So that's
why freedom is the preferred opportunity with all the problems

(01:13:39):
and the challenges we have.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Just think about this.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
You go to the supermarket, you can get this, you
can get that, you can get anything you want. Just
remember this a very important point. Okay, we don't need Sinai.
Let's just get rid of the Sinai. News Talk eleven,

(01:14:10):
ten ninety nine to three WBT Brett Waterbill Show. It's
great to be with you and it is wonderful too.
Welcome back to the program. Gordon g Chang joining us
here today on the on the program, Gordon, thanks so
much for making time for us.

Speaker 15 (01:14:23):
Oh thank you, Brett.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
So, I wanted to get your thoughts on two things
that are sort of cheek by Jowel and it's this,
we just saw what President Trump did getting the hostages back.
We know that the people who have lost their lives
have not yet been totally repatriated, and maybe it may

(01:14:45):
never even happen. And then he went to go and
meet up with the folks at Charmel Shake. First, I
wanted to get your thoughts on what this means for
us going forward and what it means specifically with Shijin
Ping and him seeing all of these people queuing up

(01:15:05):
with the President of the United States, and I was
just very curious to get your thoughts on that.

Speaker 15 (01:15:09):
The context for all of this is that it's clear
that for all the talk of China's rise, the United
States is the country that gets things done, not China. Now,
if we go back a couple of years, you know,
you saw China arrange that deal between Saudi Arabia and Iran.
Last year, the Chinese were able to get fourteen Palestinian

(01:15:31):
factions to their capital, signing the Beijing Declaration. It looked
like the Chinese were the straw that was stirring the drink.
But President Trump is inaugurated, he goes to three Gulf
states in May, and he's completely changed the dynamic where
China and its friends are now out of the region
and it's the United States that is determining outcomes. So

(01:15:54):
this is really good news for us.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
So do we expect that the president will eventually make
that journey, whether it occurs in South Korea or someplace
else where they will actually meet up. I know you've
given us great analysis on the issue of President Trump
not wanting or not needing to go and meet up

(01:16:17):
with the Hijinping.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
So what does this look like in that regard, well.

Speaker 15 (01:16:22):
Whether that meeting occurs or not really is not so
much up to President Trump. It's really up to the
Chinese because there's a lot of turmoil right now in
the Chinese capital. The rumors are left, right and center.
Some people think Si Jimping is as strong as ever.
Other people think he's going to be deposed this month.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
Wow.

Speaker 15 (01:16:41):
What we know though, is that the people who believe
that Si Jimping is out think that he's going to
be out by the end of the Communist Party's Fourth Planum.
That's a meeting in Beijing from the twentieth of this
month to the twenty third. So by the twenty third
we will have a pretty good idea about changes in
the leadership. And if C Jimping is as weak as

(01:17:04):
people some people think, then there's not going to be
any meeting with President Trump in South Korea at the
Apex summit. So you know, this is very much up
in the air. Trump wants the meeting, but that's not
up to him.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
Do you have any indication, just on a hypothetical standpoint here,
do you have any indication as to who might be
a replacement for a Hi Jinping? Perhaps, and I only
want to I'm curious about that because of the possibility
of would it be a reformer, would it be somebody
who wants to push a much harder line.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
What could we expect to see this develop.

Speaker 15 (01:17:46):
Yeah, that's a great question. There are a number of
names in the mix. Probably we would get somebody who
is not as hard line as C. Jimpaning, who is
at one end of the spectrum. We can say, though,
that if the rumors are true, that it's not so
much who is the next General Party Secretary, in other words,
China's ruler who It's not so much him. It is

(01:18:09):
going to be a guy who leads the Chinese military,
General John Yao Shao, who is the number one uniformed officer,
who is the first vice chairman of the Communist Party
Central Military Commission. He seems to be the king maker.
So the question is what does General Jong want. I mean,
he can get any number of different proxies in but

(01:18:30):
I think that it's really his view that counts. If
the rumors are true. That's a big if, Brett, because
as I said, a lot of people still believe Siegrimping
is in control, and obviously Trump thinks he's still in
control because Trump keeps on talking about meeting him at
the Apex summit, so US intelligence obviously believes the rumors
are not true.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
Are you feeling a confident or comfortable with what we're
seeing with the US rallies the allies to confront in
China over the rare earth moves? Can you give us
a little bit of a thought on that.

Speaker 15 (01:19:06):
I'm feeling a little bit better because remember, China imposed
its rules last note past Wednesday, not just against the
United States, but against everybody, and so China has put
everybody in the and made them an adversary. Sure, so
that sort of helped us because now everybody has a
common cause. They're all the target of these enhanced restrictions

(01:19:30):
on rare earths.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Okay, final question for you, and it's only because I
know that you are so skilled with looking at the
different strategic pictures here. Should we expect regime change in Venezuela?
We know that that is a very dangerous point. We
know it's a dangerous potential nexus point. What are your

(01:19:55):
thoughts on that, especially relative to Putin and obviously Shi
Jinping and all of this the mischief that has been
going on.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
What are your thoughts on that, Gordon.

Speaker 15 (01:20:06):
Yeah, I expect regime change, and one of the people
I don't want to be in the world right now
is Nicholas Maduro because he's got Trump on his tail,
and with all the build up of the US military
assets in the region, it's clear there's not going to
be an invasion. We don't have enough troops there to
do that, but we do have a lot of air

(01:20:26):
power and that is going to make life miserable for
the Venezuelan regime. I don't think Trump lets this one go.
I think he's going to continue pounding Maduro, which he
should because Maduro is like one of the world's biggest
drug dealers, the cartel of the suns that he had.
So yeah, Maduro I think has got a really short

(01:20:47):
lifespan and Life Insurance Company shouldn't be writing policies for him.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
What a great line, Gordon Chang.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
We always appreciate talking with you man, Gordon g Chang,
thank you so much for spending time with us. Always
love talking to you and can't wait for our next.

Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
Visit much Brett.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
You're very well appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Absolutely, Gordon ge Chang. Ladies, and Gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
News Talk eleven, ten ninety nine three WBT Brett Warable Show,
Good to be with you. I want to dive into
something here that came up in the beginning of the program,
and it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
Was the oh look it's Katie Porter.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
We were we were looking at this during the beginning
of the program, and what we had going on was
Martha McCallum doing an interview with Zorhan Mandami. She asked
him a question. They got into it going kind of
back and forth. It wasn't anything nasty or rude or anything,
but they were going back and forth. Mandami came out

(01:21:58):
and said that he he's going to honor He's going
to honor international law in New York City. Okay, international
law in New York City. And so what this is
what Mandami said was, yes, if bb net and Yahoo

(01:22:24):
comes into New York City, I'm going to arrest him
and turn him over to the International Criminal Court. Now,
I don't know about you, but that's a pretty interesting
novel theory. And this guy, I'm telling you, he's suave,

(01:22:49):
he's smooth, he's.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
All that sort of stuff, right, But you know what
this guy is. This guy, this guy is just.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
Going to be He's going to be a person who
is just like the Mayor of London. And if you're
familiar with the Mayor of London, you'll understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 15 (01:23:14):
This.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
I'm getting increasing feelings about Mandami being a plant to
destroy New York City.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
This is what it feels like to me. It feels
to me like he is going to hollow out and
destroy and destroy New York City.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
One of my friends from the West Coast had a
term for what Mandami is going to do, and what
Mandami is going to do is he's going to be
somebody who's responsible for the destruction of New York City,
peace by peace by peace. So when Martha McCallum challenged him,

(01:23:58):
she said, so you're going to be honoring international law,
what about the law of the United States? And he
was vague on that answer, but here's what she then
followed up with. She said, are you going to have
the current right now?

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
The current police chief in Police commissioner in New York
City is is Tish. Tish is her last name.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
She asked, do you think Tish is going to give
this guy over bb Net and Yahoo? And he said, well,
that's just how it's going to be. Now here's what
I think is interesting. If the Israelis feel like Mandami
is is not operating fairly, I think you're gonna here's

(01:25:00):
some stuff. I think you're can hear some conversations starting
to happen about how you handle Mondamie. I think you're
gonna hear. And I don't mean that in any kind
of like a I'm not like the the guy who's
running for the attorney general job in Virginia, who who
wants to shoot people. That's that's not any of that
at all. I think that Mandami is going uh to

(01:25:22):
be not the guy that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
That he wants to be.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Yeah, it's Jessica Tish. Jessica Tish, who by the way,
is the daughter of a once very very very famous tycoon.
She she is somebody who has done I think a
very good job given the circumstances that that she's had
to work under.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
And I don't think she's a terrible person. So so
I think that's that's an important point.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
But I do think that we're gonna hear more things
about Mandami because if if his if his first act
in an interview on Fox was We're gonna go and
arrest bb net and Yahoo.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
That's I think I just got to tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
I think the President Trump's gonna have something to say
about it, and I think he's gonna probably pick up
the phone and call Mundami. And I think Mandami's gonna
be really sad at the end of that conversation because
President Trump has already said he's not going to give
money to New York he said it. And what they
can sue, they can do whatever they want, and Undami

(01:26:34):
can Mandami can have a nice, a nice ride, do
what he wants to do, all that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Sort of stuff. But don't forget. Don't forget.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
New York City is New York City, and New York
City is an important place. It's probably the arguably the
most important economic place in the world. And if this
guy wants to play games, I think it's a really
dumb idea. I think he ought to just stick with
his stupid socialist agenda and see what he wants to do.
If he wants to dip his toe in the international

(01:27:06):
affairs of things, I think he's gonna come up losing.
He's gonna I think he's gonna come up as a
loser in a big way, and a lot of companies
are gonna start leaving the state, a lot of companies
going to start leaving the city.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
And good luck with that. I mean, good luck when you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
Start having the base of the United States economy, economy,
when you see that thing starting to move down to Charlotte,
when you see that thing starting to move into Miami,
when you see that thing moving south of the Mason
Dixon line. Because people are going to support companies that
want good opportunities, you go go right, go right ahead, dude,

(01:27:47):
go right ahead. Your first order of business is gonna
be you're gonna arrest bb net and Yahoo. Okay, I
just that's very interesting. You should probably watch yourself because
somebody may arrest you from another country. I mean, I'm
somebody from another country may say, you know what, since
you're doing the ICC, you know what, we're gonna arrest you.

(01:28:08):
We're gonna yeah, that's a yeah, Hungary. Hungary's gonna say,
you know what, dude, we're gonna arrest you. You're gonna
arrest Bybee, We're gonna arrest you. Everybody's gonna get arrested
all the way around, and nothing is going to get done.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
I think you should stay in your lane, mister mister
mister mudami, mister mandamie, wake up. Yeah, yeah I would. Yeah,
that's a good idea. Stay clean. That's all we can do,
all right. Coming up, Breaking with Brett Jensen is next.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
I rate this show in a I'm glad you Concur
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