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December 18, 2025 • 129 mins

Tune in here to this Thursday's edition of the Brett Winterble Show! 

Brett kicks off the program by talking about a tragic plane crash and the life and legacy of Greg Biffle. He reflects somberly on the reported crash involving Biffle and his family, noting how moments like these are especially painful so close to Christmas and serve as a reminder that nothing in life is guaranteed. Brett shares his longtime admiration for Biffle, not only as a racer he enjoyed watching on the West Coast, but as a man defined by action and service. He highlights Biffle’s efforts to help others during Hurricane Helene, praising his willingness to step up without seeking attention.

We’re joined by Michael Whatley from North Carolina to talk about the U.S. Senate race and the state of the economy and public safety. Brett welcomes the Senate candidate back to the program for a wide-ranging conversation focused on affordability, inflation, and economic relief. Whatley outlines how recent policy changes, including tax cuts, job growth, and lower inflation, are intended to bring relief to families, while acknowledging ongoing challenges like housing costs and high interest rates. The discussion also covers President Trump’s upcoming visit to North Carolina, his endorsement of Whatley, and why the state remains critical in national elections.

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Sad day today with the with the plane crash that
that happened with Greg Biffle and his family. And you know,
I genuinely have been a fan of his, especially being
on the West Coast for a period of time. The
idea that you know, you could lose, you could lose
your life, I understand, and anything can happen at any time.

(00:48):
Nothing is guaranteed. But you know, one of the things
about Greg Biffle that I thought was was incredibly important
was the salvage and the things that he did to
try to help out with Hurricane Helene. And these are
the kind of people that I like. I like people

(01:10):
that decide, Hey, I'm going to go put myself out
and I'm going to go out and I'm going to
help and I'm going to do the things that need
to be done. It's that rugged spirit. And you know,
I enjoyed watching him race. I enjoyed seeing him, as
I said, out on the West coast, and it's just
so sad to see this happen, especially this close to Christmas.

(01:33):
Time and to see people losing their lives. It really is.
It is something that you know, as we get into
the end of this year, it does cause you to
think because nothing is guaranteed. Nothing is guaranteed, and so

(01:53):
when you have an opportunity to do something that's important,
if you even if it's a tiny little act, you
should do it. There should never be a regret, unless,
of course, obviously it's something stupid or awful that you
should not do. But I genuinely enjoy seeing people have

(02:16):
the rugged sort of guts to go and do the
things to pick up the mantle of leadership. You know,
one of the worst phrases in the American language, or
really in the English language is somebody should do something.

(02:36):
What does that mean? Like when somebody says somebody should
do something, well, we know who should do something. We
should do something. We should approach this, we should do that.
Whether it's people who are on the light rail, or
whether it's people that are helping out veterans that are

(02:58):
not able to be taken care of, or any of
these sorts of things. All it takes for us to
be heroes is to just care and to take an
action to further what needs to happen. That's really all
it is. You don't have to build a skyscraper, you
don't have to dig a tunnel, you don't have to

(03:19):
do any of that sort of stuff. And that's why
you know, just a couple of weeks ago, Hancock spikes
for kids. That is exactly the right kind of thing
to do. Those are important things. You feel better, you
elevate when you are around people who are who are
doing the stuff that really matters. And so as I

(03:44):
think about Greg Biffel and his family, you know, it's
one of those things. Because we are not guaranteed tomorrow.
We don't know when the ride ends, and so each
and every day we should be fit with the joy
of the season. But we should also the three hundred

(04:05):
and sixty five days out of the year, we should
always be thinking about how we can improve ourselves and
also improve other people. All it takes is to say yes.
All it takes is to say I'm going to stand
up and I'm going to help. I'm going to do this,
even if it's a small, small sort of deal that

(04:30):
you're doing. We are so disconnected, but so connected with
our phones and with our opportunities and all those sorts
of things. The idea that he would decide to get
up and to head over during Hurricane Helen and try
to save as many people and get them to a

(04:52):
position where they would be able to take care for
themselves at least holding that moment and in the breach
is what a hero looks like. This is what heroes do.
And they don't seek They don't seek the limelight. They
don't seek the spotlight. And I think that's important because

(05:15):
every one of us can impact negatively or we can
impact positively. And I would say probably most people are
kind of fifty to fifty. Sometimes you miss, but you
have a chance each and every day in that regard.

(05:36):
And so it's very sad to think about how this
man lost his life, how his family and the whole
group of people who are on that flight lost their
lives today, But the reality is we are here and

(06:00):
we have the opportunity to help people do the right things,
to model appropriate responses, to do all of that sort
of stuff. And all it means is that you're showing
care for the people who you know, and even for

(06:22):
the people you don't know. Every one of us, if
we band together, have the ability to do great things.
For a long time, we have seen America fall into
some difficult positions. But I'm bullish in terms of the country.

(06:44):
I'm bullish in terms of the people who are here.
We are not perfect. Only one perfect person walked the earth.
But the fact of the matter is we can do
our part, and to steal a lyric, we all can
be heroes. God bless you.

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Charlotte's FM News Talk. And it is the Brett Witterbule Show.

(11:24):
It is great to be with you. One o seven
point nine FMWBT, Charlotte's FM News Talk. Everything is fair
game from the last twenty four hours if you want
to reach out and opine on certain things. I watched
the speech last night from the President. I could not
believe that it only lasted eighteen minutes, eighteen nineteen minutes.
I thought it was a very interesting approach in terms

(11:46):
of a rebuttal to all the garbage that's that's kind
of floating around out there. I don't know how it
landed with you, but as it landed with me, I
thought he was I thought he was pretty much spot
on on almost every one of the issues. And he
has to be able to be able to to tell
the American people that things are actually getting better. It's

(12:08):
not perfect. Nobody has a perfect plan. And the reason
is you have people in the country who expect that
suddenly this morass that we were through with the Biden
administration is just going to go away this president. And
I heard what I heard what Vince said this morning.

(12:29):
But this president has been in office for not quite
yet a year, and look what he's doing. President Trump's
us CIS seeks to strip naturalized citizenship from immigration fraudsters.
I can't wait till this weekend when this becomes a

(12:51):
topic over on the cable channels and you will see
people defending fraudsters who deserve to be in the United
States of America. Why because they're here. President Donald Trump's
United States Citizenship and Immigration Services USCIS is reportedly setting

(13:13):
out an ambitious plan to strip citizenship from naturalized Americans
who have been found to have fraudulently secured the legal status.
So let me ask you a question. If you found
out that the lawyer you hired didn't really go to
law school, would you want them to go to jail?

(13:36):
Would you want them to get bounced from the bar?
If you found out that the person who was operating
on your loved one didn't really go to medical school,
but he went and did the surgery or she went
and did the surgery. Would you be like, no, but
that's okay. They just they wanted to just do the
right thing and they just couldn't do it.

Speaker 7 (13:57):
So, you know, no, you.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Would lose your marbles. You would lose your marbles. What's
the difference between made off and somebody who lied to
get fraudulently obtained citizenship? Why would you do that? The
denaturalization plan, detailed in the New York Times will be

(14:22):
spearheaded by us CIS Director Joe Edlow and focus on
referring one hundred to two hundred denaturalization cases every month
to the agency's Office of Immigration Litigation. Now, you know
how you get away from this. You come clean, you leave,

(14:44):
you do that sort of stuff. But if the cases
are successful, it would represent a massive escalation of denaturalization
in the modern era. By comparison, between twenty seventeen and
this year to date, there has just been one hundred
and twenty cases filed, according to the Justice Department. The

(15:05):
New York Times says, under federal law, people may be
denaturalized only if they committed fraud while applying for citizenship
or in a few other narrow circumstances. What would that be,
What could that possibly be? I'm gonna guess one. I

(15:26):
can guess one that you were like a terrorist somewhere overseas,
you were a human rights violator. I could see, I
could see that. Certainly, we've seen these cases. It's much
more infrequent now, but when we were younger. If you
go back twenty five thirty years, you know, you'd go
find these people who were in the United States who

(15:48):
were concentration campguards and torturers and all those sorts of things,
and those people would be sent back to their home country.
But under federal law, people may be denaturalized only if
they have committed fraud while applying for citizenship or in
a few other narrow circumstances. But but the Trump administration

(16:14):
has shown a zeal for using every tool at its
disposal to target legal and illegal immigrants, leading activists to
warn that such a campaign could sweep up people who
have made honest mistakes on their citizenship paperwork and sofear

(16:35):
among law abiding Americans. That's from the New York Times.
It's no secret that US Citizenship and Immigration Customs Services
war on fraud includes prioritizing those who have unlawfully obtained
US citizenship, especially under the previous administration, said afew J. Tragesser,

(17:02):
he's a USCIS spokesperson. We will pursue denaturalization proceedings for
those individuals lying or misrepresenting themselves during the naturalization process.
We look forward to continuing to work with the Department

(17:24):
of Justice to restore integrity to America's immigration system. Who
do you think this is targeted to? Who do you
think this is targeted to. I can think of one
particular person, one particular person who would be targeted. I

(17:46):
can think of two too high profile people. I would
say Alejandro Majorkis because he came he came from Cuba
and he became a naturalized American citizen. And we know
that the President has a really short fuse for that guy,

(18:08):
because that guy walked around for four years saying the
border was secure and he had twenty million people come
into the country. Number one. I think that would be
somebody that's going to get looked at. And I think
there's somebody else that's going to be looked at, somebody
much younger than Alejandro Mayorkis. I don't think it's good.

(18:32):
I don't think it's gonna be illanomar, although maybe they'll
try to do it. I've got somebody else in mind.
Anybody anybody want to I want to hazard to guess anybody? Anybody? Anybody? Huh? So,
once upon a time, if you were a communist, if

(18:55):
you were an actual communist, that was grounds for sending
out of the country because people didn't want communists to
be walking around.

Speaker 14 (19:02):
Do we have any.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Communists that are walking around in public, in the public
arena that are not naturally that are not natural Americans,
but are people who have picked up they have picked
up citizenship. Yes, there's one, very big one. Do you
know who I'm thinking of? Do you know who I'm
thinking of? Does anybody know who I'm thinking of? There's

(19:29):
a guy who has been naturalized. He lives in New
York and he's going to be the mayor of New
York City. I'm wondering if the President of the United
States is sitting back and saying, when this guy starts
wrecking New York City, we're going to have a problem.

(19:53):
I just have a feeling about this. I just have
a sense of this because you you can do a
lot of things, and you can say a lot of things,
but when you've got billions and billions of dollars in
real estate in New York City, things things need to
be considered. Seven h four five seven zero one oh

(20:18):
seven nine FMWBT Charlotte's FM News Chocolate's head on over
to Anna Erickson with the update.

Speaker 15 (20:24):
Thank you. Bret a retired NASCAR driver and his family
killed in a plane crash. It happened at the Statesville
Regional Airport this morning. All six people on board were killed,
including Greg Biffle, his wife, and two children. And Biffle
was no stranger to the Statesville Airport. He loved flying
out there.

Speaker 10 (20:41):
The biff as he was known, got his pilot license
in the nineties and years later learned to fly helicopters.
He was one of the first rescue pilots to the
North Carolina Mountains after Hurricane Helen struck. Someone sent him
a Facebook post about a stranded family, but.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
It was a family that was stock in Banner Al.

Speaker 9 (20:58):
You know, they were only planning to be there for
a few days.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
That were out of Fourmula diapers and the road was
washed out.

Speaker 10 (21:03):
That turned out to be one of many missions that
Biffle flew in a helicopter that he had just purchased
days before the storm. Biffle was a highly successful professional
race car driver from Vancouver, Washington, winning nineteen Cup Series
races to become one of NASCAR's seventy five Greatest Drivers
before semi retiring in twenty sixteen. Greg Biffle was fifty

(21:25):
five years old. Brendan Dixon WBT News.

Speaker 15 (21:28):
We now know the cause of a massive early morning
apartment fire in East Charlotte. The two alarm blaze at
Summit Ridge Apartments on Farm Pond Lane near Albemarle Road.
Around two dozen people forced out of their homes.

Speaker 16 (21:39):
In total, there are twelve units that are affected, approximately
two dozen people.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
The Red Cross has been called to assist the displace.

Speaker 15 (21:48):
Battalion Chief Justin Phillips with Charlotte Fire. The blaze is
deemed accidental caused by an unattended burning incense. It cost
around two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars worth of
damage in DC. President Trump and says he's fixing a
MESSI and here it is.

Speaker 17 (22:02):
They flooded your cities and towns with illegal aliens. They
decimated your hard earned savings. They indoctrinated your children with
hate for America.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Grit winnable show great to be with you. It is
open season. Anti Semitic attacks in New York City highlight
the broader threat. This is Mundami's New York. That's one
of the comments that has been said. New York City
is witnessing a surge in violent, targeted assaults on Jewish

(22:50):
individuals during the Hanukkah holiday, part of the broader pattern
of rising anti semitism and heightened holiday seas and security concerns.
Within just twenty four hours, two men were attacked in
Brooklyn in incidents now under investigation by the NYPD. On

(23:12):
Monday night, Orthodox Jewish men returning from a Hanukkah event
on the southbound Number three train were harassed and threatened
with antisemitic slurs. A video shared on the social media
platforms shows one attacker grabbing a young man by the

(23:32):
collar as the others shouted threats on the train. On Tuesday,
a thirty five year old Jewish man was stabbed in
the chest in Crown Heights after a verbal altercation outside
a synagogue. Witnesses say the attackers shouted anti Semitic remarks

(23:54):
before fleeing the scene. The victim was hospitalized with non
life threatening injuries. Back to back to back incidents are
taking place on the streets of New York City. The
events in New York come amid the global concerns over

(24:15):
extremist violence during the holiday season. Just days earlier, you
know the story coming out of Australia. Meanwhile, a deadly
mass shooting at Brown University left multiple students dead, including
in a classroom. And we do know that that classroom

(24:35):
reportedly was led by a professor of judaic studies. Though
authorities have not released a motive, the academic community remains shaken.
Security concerns have also grown after authorities in Germany and
Poland foiled planned is loamist terror attacks on the Christmas markets,

(25:00):
part of the growing pattern of holiday targeted extremist plots.
Something has changed? What has changed your thoughts? Robert, Welcome
to the program. What's on your mind?

Speaker 7 (25:16):
Robert?

Speaker 18 (25:18):
Hey, Brett, I just wanted to talk a little bit
about a couple of things. From first, I thought you
gave a very good tribute, uh to in the first
segment to Greg Biffle. That's a uh, that's that crash
that happened just north of us in Statesville, of course
is national news.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
And is it is it?

Speaker 18 (25:39):
Is it Stan or Ralph who who frequently calls in
and talks about NASCAR, or.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Maybe even both of them, that that's that, that's Stan,
that that Stan is a regular on that circuit for sure.

Speaker 18 (25:51):
Well, I hope, I hope Stan will call in and
talk a little bit more about Greg Biffle. It's my understanding,
and when you won nineteen races, and of course we
know about the great work that he did there in
the western part of the state. So I hope he
gets a lot of tributes, and not only for his
excellent career, but also for what he did off the track.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Amen.

Speaker 7 (26:15):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Absolutely.

Speaker 18 (26:18):
The other thing, I just I want to speak for
a lot of people when I welcome President Trump coming
to North Carolina tomorrow, to eastern North Carolina. I think
that's fair to say that that is Trump country for
the most part, and I hope he'll be able to
help Michael Wattley starting right now. That's such a big
race next year that may determine the close balance there

(26:43):
in the Senate. So I thought, regarding the speech last night,
I didn't really think he was perfectly in his element there,
I thought. I think the networks limited him to fifteen
or eighteen minutes in order for them to agree to
carry it, that the major network. So I think he'll
be much more in his element tomorrow right there when

(27:04):
he has very happy, very enthusiastic people literally standing behind
him and cheering and showing signs, etc.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
I think I heard Beth say earlier today that he
was talking like it was a rally, but he was
just giving a speech to the nationwide audience. In fact,
Michael Wattley's going to join me at four thirty five
coming up in this next hour, so I'm going to
ask him a number of different questions about this race
and about all the stuff that's going on. But what

(27:36):
did you think about the surprise that he offered to
the American men and women who are so honorable in
serving in our country, so that each of them is
going to be getting each of those families is going
to be getting seventeen hundred and seventy six dollars as

(27:57):
a bonus. What did you think about that? Would you
make about that?

Speaker 18 (28:01):
I think that's one of the most memorable things that
came out of that eighteen minute speech.

Speaker 13 (28:07):
Uh.

Speaker 18 (28:08):
I mean, I don't think anyone could be could be
against that unless you're unless you're someone I don't know,
maybe like Rand Paul who doesn't who is such a
such a budget tulk.

Speaker 19 (28:19):
But anyway, I.

Speaker 18 (28:19):
Thought that was a great idea. Kind of reminded me
of the uh, the bonus that the air traffic controllers
who stayed in there.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Oh that's right, that's right throughout.

Speaker 18 (28:29):
Throughout the shutdown, the ones who stayed in there, they
got paid and they got recognized.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
That's great. Yeah, that's that's a great take. I will,
I will, I will put the I will put the
the transom up and see if we get a call
from from stan on on Greg Biffle and I always
appreciate talking to you. Are you going to make any
kind of an effort to try to go and see, uh,
see the speech or anything. Are you're going to be
listening to it on WBT?

Speaker 18 (28:56):
I would, Brett, I would love to go see that speech.
I have never seen the president in person, and I
would go to any of his speeches. I would have,
quite frankly, I would have gone to the January sixth
speech if I had the chance. Now, I would not
have would not have gone onto the Capitol inside the
Capitol building perimeter.

Speaker 19 (29:16):
But I would love to see it. I don't think
I'll be able to, but if I have the chance,
I would love to do it because I and by
the way, i've seen another presidents who I read and
disagreed with, I've seen him in person. I think it's
a great experience.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
That's great stuff. Thanks so much. I appreciate you being
out there, Robert, enjoy the night, my friend.

Speaker 18 (29:33):
Thank you, sir.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Oh you got it absolutely. Grett Winterble Show. Great to
be with you. One O seven point nine FMWBT, Charlotte's
FM News Talk. Let's reach out and talk to David

(29:57):
who's been patiently holding on. David, welcome to the show.

Speaker 20 (30:00):
Hey, good afternoon, and I just wanted to bring up
the disconnect from the city paying Chief Jennings eighty seven
thousand dollars to move thirty five miles versus their recent
compensation for the trailer park they rezoned and giving the

(30:21):
residents their each six thousand dollars to move their trailers
between the three to ZHO five. The Chief Jenning's got
eighty seven that he was paid for moving thirty five miles,
the new police chief's husband getting almost one hundred thousand,
all less than a half a million. But I don't

(30:46):
think people realize that some of that money is going
to factor into the top three of their wages, and
the city will continue to spend to pay over and
above what they've already settled with.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
So if I put you, if I put you in
charge of this for the day, how would you how
would you make it right?

Speaker 20 (31:08):
Well, I would definitely give the mobile home owners additional
money for compensation for moving their trailers or the properties
been rezoned. And I would use one hundred thousand dollars

(31:28):
that they've allotted to make things right for hispanics during
Charlotte's Web two. Make those mobile home people pull all right.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
I think that's very interesting, David. I appreciate your your
thoughtfulness there, and thank you for calling on the program.

Speaker 21 (31:50):
All right, have a great thing.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
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said this yesterday. I said this yesterday to Nick at
the request of anti ICE groups to protect leftist protesters
and illegals. So you you dirty, dirty administrators? Are you
kidding me? So they turned everything off. Now here's the problem.

(32:40):
The problem is the killer knew that you turned everything off.
Like you could have just not told anybody that you
were turning it off, but you did this. Let me
tell you something here. They need. There needs to be
a reco charge against Brown, and Brown has got to

(33:00):
be folded up. Donald Trump needs to make the effort
to claw back the eight billion dollar endowment that they
have and say no more, You're done, You're out of business.
Too bad. That is insane. Like I was saying that,
I'm telling you, I was saying it yesterday. I said,

(33:21):
they turned off They turned off the cameras because they
didn't want ice to see who's around. Okay, so now
what are we now? What are we gonna When is
the march on Brown? When is the march on Brown?
The parents who have children that are that are wounded,

(33:44):
that were shot, and the guy yelled alla huac bar
and all that. So what where where do we how
do we get back to the to this? How do
we do this? I mean, my my lord, human rights
groups to university administrators dismantle surveillance to defend free speech. Now,

(34:10):
that's what they wrote. Now, in the face of Trump's
attacks on the universities, the stakes of invasive tracking of
students have never been higher. The troves of data amassed
through surveillance tools can be accessed by agencies like immigration

(34:35):
and Customs enforcement, track, intimidate, and disappear campus community members
who have been engaged in constitutionally protected speech. These attacks
are part and parcel of the administration's broader campaign to

(34:56):
criminalize immigrants and the expression of descent. Absolutely not the
minute you turn those cameras off and those people get shot,
You're You're done. Your university is finished. They they they
absolutely have got to be finished. I don't know, maybe
maybe that maybe in this audience, there are some Brown alumni,

(35:17):
alumni who have the thoughts on this. But this is
this is despicable, this is crazy. Newly revealed letter points
to confirmation of journalists' accusations that Brown University disabled its

(35:38):
campus CCTV cameras in August at the request of anti
ice groups. What are we going to do now? How
do we handle this? Now? There's video from inside the
Brown University classroom where two students, including Ella Cook, were

(36:00):
killed in a targeted attack, showing multiple cameras, directly contradicting
the university's police claims that no cameras exist. This is
this is I'm telling you right now, the President of
the United States needs to needs to immediately enact. Do

(36:20):
you have to just set them aside? Also, newly uncovered
radio transmissions from Providence police responding to the Brown University
shooting reveals officers delayed entry, staging outside during the crucial

(36:40):
moments as the suspect escaped Brown University. I mean it's
an this is a RICO violate. I mean, this is
a RICO violation. What are you doing? Why would you
even want want to be affiliated with that organization? I mean, this,

(37:05):
this is this is shocking, but it's not unexpected because
you have to understand something. Some people are more equal
than other people. So like Ella Cook, she's just equal.
But the activist class at Brown University, they they they

(37:28):
are more equal than the equal. Didn't you learn this?
Didn't you learn this in in animal farm? Come on,
some animals are more equal than others. And that's what
you have to remember, ladies and gentlemen. I mean this
is this is really quite something. I think at this

(37:49):
stage of the game, you have to get rid of
the attorney general, you have to get rid of the
police chief, you have to get rid of the mayor,
and you have to get rid of the uh the
folks that were behind all of this, they knew, and
you've got the tracking of the transmissions from the police

(38:11):
department saying that they weren't going to do a darn thing.
They were not going to do a darn thing. Are
you kidding me? When's the march on Brown? When do
we bring six hundred thousand people to Brown University and
we say, hey, we don't want this anymore. It's unbelievable.

(38:33):
It's totally believable. It's heartbreaking. My name's Brett Whatterball. I
do talk radio. Our number two is the Brettwitables Show.

(39:01):
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The great stuff that we that we are able to
reach into. I think it's phenomenal if you're just joining us.
Very sad news with the with the airline, with the
plane crash out in Statesville, and unfortunately it cost the
lives of some incredible people, including Greg Biffle and his

(39:45):
wife and his children, and the the folks who were
flying on that aircraft as well. That that happened just
approaching noon today and certainly not anything that we would
want to see happen in any cir ccumstance, but at
this time of the year, you know, such a such
a heartbreaking development taking place. Additionally, you know, we're following

(40:09):
all the big stories that have been moving in the
last couple of days, obviously the Brown situation, obviously down
in Bondai Beach. Overnight we found out that the that
that Dan Bongino is going to be leaving the the
employee of the Department of Justice. They're going to be

(40:32):
replacing him with somebody. And there's a whole lot of stuff.
There's there's a lot of moving parts that are happening here.
And one of the things that I thought was interesting
listening to the speech about the President last night was
was the idea that you had a situation where the
president had a limited amount of time, and I think

(40:54):
that is true. I think it is true that he
had a limited amount of time, so that speech ran
about eighteen minutes. And I thought it was very effective
to have the charts that were posted up during the presentation.
But if you went over to CNN or you went
over to miss Now, you would notice that they didn't

(41:17):
put those charts up. They don't want you to know
what's actually going on. And I think it's I think
it's pedantic. I think it's the sort of thing that
means that you're not confident in what you believe. But
let me give you an example of this. This could
be cut number thirty one, which is John Rose. John

(41:40):
Rose is a Republican from Tennessee, and he sat down
and had a conversation with Jake Tepper on affordability. And
here's what John Rose had to say, Cut number thirty one. Please,
President Trump's out there saying that the affordability issue is
a hoax.

Speaker 11 (41:57):
I don't think it's a hoax to you.

Speaker 16 (42:00):
I think the hoax the is trying to frame the
issue as somehow Republicans are responsible for what was clearly
created by bad progressive democratic policies.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Tariffs are part of the reason for inflation.

Speaker 10 (42:14):
The tariffs are part of the reason for inflation when
it comes to a lot of objects, a lot of items.

Speaker 16 (42:20):
Sure, I think if you point to the very near term,
you would say, Okay, there's some evidence that tariffs are
being passed on, but very little actually, certainly not of
the magnitude of the tariffs. And so the president is
walking and chewing them. At the same time, we're taking
on the bad trade policies of the Biden administration. You know,
for four years President Biden did not open a single

(42:41):
market to farmers' products here in the United States. Agricultural
products were shut out of so many markets because of
the bad trade policies of the Biden administration. So President
Trump is trying to open markets and using tariffs as
a tool to get that done. That does create some
modest inflationary press, but mostly that's been being absorbed by

(43:03):
the exporters or by middleman power in this country.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Jake Tapper doesn't know anything about economics nothing, I mean zero.
He was a gun control activist, but before he got
hired to be Uh, what are those sidekicks that played
the music back in the day VH one or whatever
it was, and then he went to CNN and NN
and so the thing that's interesting to me is you

(43:31):
can hear the desperation in Jake Tapper's voice. And do
you know what, you want to know why he's so
desperate about this situation. He's desperate about the situation because
when the economy really goes full guns after this year,

(43:52):
they're they're gonna have nothing to say. And you know,
and I know that Jake Tapper is sitting there saying.

Speaker 14 (44:00):
Darn it, why did we allow the.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
President to give seventeen hundred and seventy six dollars to
the to the folks who are serving in the United
States military. Jake Tapper hates the United States Military, I
could guarantee you. Because he's a progressive. He doesn't respect
what they do. He liked it when it was that
that weirdo, you know, Millie and those people doing the

(44:24):
things that they were doing. He gets really excited when
when somebody like the the Senator from Arizona shows up
on CNN and but nobody nobody's watching that channel. I mean,
it's really sad. You if you have time, just do

(44:45):
it at like eight o'clock at night, eight o'clock, nine
o'clock at night. Just go just go CNN, then go
to Miss Now, and then go to Fox and look
at the energy levels in each of those programs. My gosh,

(45:06):
I gotta tell you, Caitlin Collins, she looks like she's
she's presiding over over a funeral, like there's no there's
no power and fun or anything like that. And then
you go to Miss Now and Miss Now is like what.

Speaker 7 (45:23):
Are they doing?

Speaker 14 (45:24):
What are they talking about?

Speaker 1 (45:25):
And then you go when you watch who I don't
know who's on the other side. I guess it's waters.
They at least laugh. These people, they're sad secks. They're
very sad and and it shows you have got to
act like you're a champion, play like a champion today. Okay,
that's what Notre Dame says, not me. But the fact

(45:46):
of the matter is, bring a little oomph, you know what,
you guys, bring wet blankets, wet blankets strewn across all
of the great bonfires that you could be enjoying, you know,
marshmallows and hot dogs. But no, you like to bring
the absolute misery seriously, it takes joy, it takes electricity

(46:16):
to get people engaged in this time and this place.
It is no longer nineteen seventy eight. I hate to
tell you guys, you gotta be dynamic. That's why people
love talk radio, especially WBT. No, I've been remiss. I

(46:40):
have been remiss. Looking at the text line coming up here,
let's see what we got. We've we've got people with takes,
and we're taking your takes as well. If you are
of a mind to call in and check in with us,
Alan says, somehow, what is this Wait a minute, Hold
on a second, how do we know if Biden's border

(47:02):
policy didn't allow Middle Eastern terrorists into the country now
lying in wait, maybe until Christmas or New Year's And
I said, it's totally possible, And he said somebody, somehow
that would get blamed by the Lib media as Trump's fault.
They're gonna they're gonna try to blame him for everything
like it doesn't there's no win. There's no win in

(47:23):
that regard. So that's what you have to do is
you have to adopt a different sort of stance. The
stance that you should have is confidence. I know it
can be difficult because we have a lot of people
who will sell us out in the House, in the Senate,
who knows. But we have to be confident. If you

(47:46):
wake up every day and you say, man, we are
gonna get nuked, well, then it's it's going to probably happen.
But if you try to make some new believers join
the join the transom, and it's gonna be a little
bit better, I think. And that's one of the things
that you have to understand. Everybody is gonna throw mud

(48:07):
at you all the time. Now do you run away
from the mud fight?

Speaker 7 (48:13):
Now?

Speaker 1 (48:13):
I don't think so. I think you you get strategic.
I think you handle it in basically the same sort
of way. There's a very famous phrase that's been used
by by I think it's millennia. Over the course of millennia.
Two for flinching, You don't want to flinch. Two for

(48:35):
flinching is a problem. And if you're afraid, what do
they say?

Speaker 12 (48:40):
Now?

Speaker 1 (48:40):
I was never allowed to really play football because my
mom said I was gonna break my neck, and so
I listened to her. And then I got to college
and I spent some time with the with the innermural
sort of stuff. And I played one game of football
and I got hammer so bad with a hit that

(49:02):
I said, I'm going home because I knew it was
not for me. This is not for me. But what
I'm saying is if you expect to be hurt, if
you expect to be sold out, if you expect all
those sorts of things, it does warp your mindset. You
have to gut up every day, put your feet on
the ground, and then start drilling and start working, and

(49:23):
start doing the stuff that's important. Inform people post on
the on the different platforms, talk about the things that
are important to you. That's what you need to do.
You don't want to cower or hide. Although Cawor was
a very effective coach for his period of time. But
the fact of the matter is, you know, you sit
back here and you say, oh, we're gonna be sold

(49:44):
out today, We're gonna get taken out today. No, the
way you win these arguments, the way you win these
fights very simple. Get more converts. You have to do
the hard work of conversing. You have to do the
hard work of it explaining. You have to do the
hard work, and you will bring people along to you.

(50:08):
Just think about Christianity for a second in the upper room,
twelve thirteen, but well we know twelve.

Speaker 8 (50:19):
But what.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Now? You have a billion that doesn't happen automatically. You
have a lot of stuff that goes on between that
point to this point. And that's the thing. You have
to be willing to do the hard work. You don't
do ridiculous work, you don't do crazy things. You just
try to influence people who are in your sphere, people

(50:42):
who are in your area, and you just kind of
talk to folks like this. It's all you have to do.
The only way you ever get anybody to get on board.
Think about this. Ronald Reagan lost to who Jerry Ford
for the nomination, and then he gave his speech and

(51:05):
everybody I talked to Mike Reagan about this. He gave
his speech, and everybody in the in the arena realized,
oh man, we blew it. We should have nominated Reagan
back when he was going after Jerry Ford. And so

(51:27):
when you when you when you see how this stuff works,
you have to create believers. And that's that's really what
it's about. I mean, one hundred percent that's what it's about.
And sure I never played a down of football. But
I have a chance every day to influence people, to

(51:49):
talk to people, to see what the people want to
talk about. All that sort of stuff. That's that's that's
the greatness of America. You see what's going on at University,
you see what's going on in all of these cities
that are just going bonkers. The world is looking at
us and they're saying, how is it that you have

(52:09):
such a strong presidency, that we have all of these
nuts that are running around in all these cities. The
answer is easy, because they're cities. The cities are not America.
The cities are part of America, no doubt about it.
But the people that are in the heartland, the people
that run the country, are the people who are together,

(52:30):
who love the country, who love the flag, who love
the values, who love all of those things. And if
you don't like any of that, guess what. No one's
gonna go and yell at you and hammer you or
do anything like that. Nobody's gonna run up on you
and throw you on the ground because you don't like
the American flag. Nobody's gonna do that. You have a choice.

(52:50):
You can be somebody who wants to be virtuous or
you can be vile and guess what. That's how this works.
Nobody gets beaten over the head until they say uncle.
What we have to do to be effective communicators is
to put forward your best argument and be prepared for

(53:15):
a rebuttal. When they start making fun of you. When
they start making fun of you, you know you've gotten
in because the only thing they've got is mockery. And
after mockery comes the redemption. Full stop set. I'm telling

(53:39):
you that's how you do it. Let them wear themselves
out and then say welcome aboard. I'm Brettwierable, patriot, what
are you? And welcome back. It is the Brett winterbol Show.

(54:04):
Great to be with you. What a seven point nine FMWBT,
Charlotte's FM News Talk. It's a pleasure to welcome back
to the program a person I always like talking to,
and that is, of course Michael Wattley, who is a
candidate for uh North Carolina Senate coming up. Mister Wattley,
It's good to have you on the program.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Again, Brett. It is always good to be on with you.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
It's there's a whole lot of stories that are that
are out there moving around and I wanted to ask
you a number of different questions about what we're looking
at with this race. And so one of the things
I wanted to look at from last night and how
this is going to go with in terms of the economy,
how long is it going to take before we see

(54:47):
relief when it comes to affordability, and how will that
you know, factor in with the one big beautiful bill
and all that sort of stuff. How does how does
that all come to come to fruition and regardless.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Yeah, well, you know, in affordability is a real issue.
I mean, that's what President Trump campaigned on and ran
on in this last election cycle. You know, we didn't
necessarily call that affordability. We called it, you know, that
inflation rate. We called it the interest rates. We called
it gasoline prices, grocery prices, and housing prices, all of
which went completely through the roof under Joe Biden's tenure.

(55:23):
And so you know, we have a president who is
in place right now who is fighting on every single
front to make sure that we can stabilize and bring
those prices down. And gasoline prices are the best example
where you know, I paid two dollars and forty nine
cents for gas last night to fill up my truck.
You know that that is something that is a dramatic

(55:46):
improvement because the President has unleashed American energy. But you know,
when it comes to you know, housing prices, when it
comes to a lot of other factors that are out there,
the President is taking steps right now. The biggest movement
that we've seen is he's created seven hundred thousand jobs
in our economy that that are are very real. We

(56:09):
are seeing that real wages are absolutely going up and
inflation is down, you know, two point nine percent for
the inflation two point seven percent, which is well below
the projected that we were supposed to have when they
announced it today. You know, so we're seeing a lot
of progress that is being made. And every conversation with

(56:29):
the experts that we're having, whether it's Scott Bessett or
or you know, Kevin Hassett or others in the White House,
is that we are on track to have an economy
in the first quarter, in the second quarter next year
that are really going to be doing substantially better for everybody.
You mentioned the tax cuts, right, so in the One

(56:50):
Big Beautiful Bill, we extended President Trump's tax cuts. The
middle middle class tax cuts, which prevented the largest tax
hike in a American history. Right, and remember, not a
single Democrat voted for it. My opponent Roy Cooper said
he would have voted against it if he had been
in the Senate. We don't need the largest tax increase

(57:11):
in American history. We also now have no tax on tips,
no tax on Social Security, no tax on overtime. So
those are going to have a dramatic impact when people
are filing their taxes next year. So we're very excited
about the progress that's been made so far and what
is coming in Q one and Q two of next year.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Well, I also speaking about coming to North Carolina. The
President is going to be here campaigning with you tomorrow.
Your thoughts on this in terms of the importance that
that places in this race, can you kind of extrapolate
on that?

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Well, Look, I'm thrilled to have the President in North Carolina.
You know, this is a state that he won three
straight times twenty sixteen to twenty twenty and twenty twenty four,
and I'm proud to have played a very significant role
running all three of those elections. I'm also very proud
of the fact that he's you know, recruited me into
this race and given me his full endorsement and his support.

(58:14):
To have him come down in North Carolina to be
able to support us is absolutely fantastic. And the message
that he is going to be delivering, talking specifically about
the gains in the economy that we have seen, the
jobs that we're creating. You know, when you think about
all of the things that he ran on last year,

(58:34):
it was he was going to rebuild the economy, he's
going to restore the borders, and he's going to make
sure America is respected around the world again. All of
those issue sets really matter here in North Carolina. And
those are issue sets that I'm very proud that I
worked to get him elected as well as a Republican
House and a Republican Senate, and we could see those

(58:54):
those provisions, you know, get taken care of and in
the law. And that's the issue set that's going to
define the twenty twenty sixth election here in North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
And listen, you know, it's going to be a very
interesting rally getting together and spending that time. I'd be
remiss if I didn't ask your reflections on what you
would put out earlier today about the passing of Greg
Biffel and the horrible crash that took place in these
last hours. Your thoughts on that, well.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
You think about what Greg meant, right, you know, I mean,
not only was he, you know, a world class driver
and one of the most important drivers in NASCAR, but
the thing that I will always remember about him was
in Hurricane Helen. You know that we had this all
of the damage in western North Carolina, and FEMA and
Roy Cooper were absolutely not there, but Greg Biffle was.

(59:52):
And he flew hundreds of flights in and out of
that region, varying supplies and making sure that people were
getting water, that they were getting food, they were getting medicine,
and never wanted to die for it, didn't want credit
for All he needed was permission to land the plane.
And we had so many people who stepped up during

(01:00:13):
that storm and the aftermath, you know, and and Greg
was just a shining example of that. He's a guy
who never won a credit for anything other than doing good.
And and you know, when you when you talk about
an accident that that took not just his life but
his wife, two beautiful kids. I mean, just a horrible
horrible tragedy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
It sure is, and everybody ought to ought to be
lifting up their prayers to the families and and and
to the folks who we lost in that terrible, terrible crash.
Let me take you to the notion of housing. Right,
Housing is something that Bedevil's is a number of people. Obviously,
we we have a situation where there's going to be

(01:00:56):
Jerome Palell probably exiting and somebody will be coming in
in that real guard we talk a little bit about
the housing issue. That's a challenge, especially for young families
coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Well, it really is, you know, and you think about,
you know, what you want to do when you come
out of college is be in a position to have
a job, make enough money, buy a house, get married,
raise a family. Right. Obviously, buying a house is a
huge you know, part of that, and far too many
people right now cannot afford a base house. In fact,
you know, it was stunning to me as we were

(01:01:28):
going through the campaign last year that it costs twice
as much to buy the same house in twenty twenty
four as it did in twenty twenty. That is simply
a staggering statistic, right, And of course, you know one
of the main reasons is because the interest rates are
so high. You know, inflation goes through the root interest
rates track. And now the inflation rates are down, and

(01:01:52):
Jerome Powell refuses to lower the interest rates. And then
the President rightfully so has called him out on any
number of occasions and really went after him because he's
refusing to loader those interest rates. You know, we also
we need more homes to be built, you know, and
red tape and green tape are very real factors. We

(01:02:12):
have you know, a lot of folks that want to
get in and be able to build that can't get
the permits right right, And then of course you think
about you know, the supply costs, you know, and and
and you know all the factors that followed with that inflation.
You know that that nine percent inflation we saw in
twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, thirty four percent inflation

(01:02:34):
over the course of Joe Biden's administration. So we do
need to get more housing, right, especially in an area
like Charlotte where we have you know, the population continues
to grow, and and you know, we have a place
where people want to move. We have a place, you know,
a state down here in a in a metropolitan region

(01:02:54):
that are really great places for people to live. They
want to move here, but you've got to be able
to get housing. You know, starts up and running.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Crime is obviously a huge, a huge issue, and it
is in many different places. You know, we've seen crime
occurring on the light rail, and we've seen people losing
their lives here here in Charlotte, and we've also seen
it at college campuses as well. How do we how
do we get this on the right track, because certainly

(01:03:25):
there are people who do not want necessarily to see
you know, people incarcerated, et cetera. What's your take on that,
Chairman Whately.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Well, look, it is. It is absolutely terrible. Roy Cooper
when he was the government back in twenty twenty, right
in the middle of the Antifa BLM riots, while all
of our cities were burning down, he was out marching
with BLM and Antifa. People absolutely remember the pictures of
him marching with the rioters, but they don't remember necessarily

(01:03:58):
that he signed an executive order. It's a reimagined law
enforcement and you know, created castus bail, created pre trial release,
and created a revolving door that has really put these
criminals back on the street despite the fact that they've
been arrested twenty times, thirty times, or forty times. Right,
this is absolutely inexcusable. I'm grateful that the legislature passed

(01:04:20):
Arena's Law and really tried to rein in some of
these soft on crime, you know, policies that Roy Cooper
put in place. But you know, we need to make
sure that we're going to keep our kids in our
community safe. You know, the number one priority for any government,
whether it's state government, local government, or federal government, has
to be protecting its citizens, right and as Governor, Roy

(01:04:42):
Cooper got an absolute f he failed on every level
of that. You know, we talk about the latest stabbing
on the light railcar. This was you know, somebody who
had been arrested, who had been deported. He was caught
coming back over the border and allowed into the country
by Joe Biden. And then you know, we have legislation

(01:05:05):
to for sheriffs to you know, deport criminal illegal aliens
and and honor the ice detainers. Roy Cooper vetoed those bills.
So you know, it's it's kind of a perfect storm
when you look at all of the confluence that comes
in when it comes to crime, when it comes to
having these violent, criminal, illegal aliens in Charlotte. You know,

(01:05:26):
we really do need to do better, and we're not
going to get better if we give Roy Cooper a promotion. Yeah,
thirty eight years and government is more than enough. And
his soft on crime policies are just not the right
fit for North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
So you're you're running for the seat. You you feel
like you're confident in terms of, you know, laying out
all of these sort of approaches. Why are you the guy?
And where do people go get more information?

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Well, I appreciate that.

Speaker 11 (01:05:58):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Look, I grew up in Rock, North Carolina, tiny little
town up in the mountains, five hundred and thirty four people,
you know, and I went to church, and I played
sports and I worked. You know, I started working when
I was eleven years old with a paper route fourteen
years old. Was my first full time job. I paid
my way through college. I paid my way through graduate
in law school. And that work ethic really allowed me

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to build a career. You know, I met a great lady,
you know, from Gallas, North Carolina. We got married, We've
got a great family. You know, this is what I
want to fight for. I want everybody to have the
opportunity that I did to come out of the middle class,
get a good education, create a career, and start a family.
And that's what I'm going to fight for. I'm going
to fight for every family. I'm going to fight for

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every community, you know, and we need somebody who's going
to fight for economic policies that will create jobs, raise wages,
lower prices. Right, That's that's what we need to fight on.
And I think we need to keep our kids in
our community safe. Those are the issues that's that the
voters in Charlotte really care about.

Speaker 22 (01:07:02):
It.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
We're all across North Carolina and we're going to stay
with them all day long in every community and talk
to every family.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Where do they get more information.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
At Michael Wiley dot com. They can follow me on
X at Wattley MCP, and they can find out more
information and support the campaign at Michael Wiley dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Thanks so much for spending time. I look forward to
talking to you again, Thanks much, sir, Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Absolutely, and Bratt just want to wish you and all
of your listeners of very merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, happy
New Year. This holiday season is really truly one of joy,
and I'm excited to spend it with you guys, and
excited to be with you on your new platform too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Yeah, it's great to be here. Merry Christmas and it's
great to talk to you. Thanks again for joining us
here today on the program. It is a pleasure to
be with you.

Speaker 7 (01:07:58):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
One of the things that I'm super excited about is Christmas, obviously,
And uh, I have a question for you. Are you
and I don't want to I'm not trying to make
you feel like you've got to give up a secret
or not, but here's the thing. Are you spending more
this year or are you spending less this year on

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gifts and things like that? And how is that working
out for you? And if you don't want to call
and give your opinion on that, that's totally cool. But
you can also reach out at the WBT text line
driven by Liberty Buick GMC and and all you gotta
do all very easy seven oh four five seven zero

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one zero seven nine, and you can reach right out
to us. I'm just very curious coming up into this
next hour if you want to opine, I would love
to hear from you. One O seven point nine FMWBT
Charlotte's FM News Talk. We went a little bit long
in that interview, but I think it was worth it,
especially the President coming into North Carolina tomorrow. So what

(01:09:03):
we're gonna do is we're gonna get a little break
and we're gonna come back and we're gonna reset the
topics and all this sort of stuff. But don't go anywhere.
We want you sticking around, especially with this kind of
inclement weather. You want to make sure that you're going
to be nice and dry and nice and safe out
there on the mean streets of the roads. I'm Brett Whitterble.

(01:09:26):
We'll be back right after this. Give me fog and
I am Brett Winterable. It is a pleasure to be
with you each and every day. On this day, I'm

(01:09:48):
a little saddened because of the passing of Greg Biffel
and of course his family with a terrible accident that
took place in Statesville, and just all we can do,
you know, I thought, I thought that Chairman Wattley made
a tremendous tribute to uh TO, to Greg Biffle and

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his family. We should all pray tonight that that this
this is this this is what we have to do
because we have to move on, but we also at
the same time have to remember the heroic nature of
of what he did when he was racing in his car,
but also helping out after Hurricane Helen. And if you

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if you've missed any of the of the program, we'll
post up that that conversation in which Michael Wattley uh
talked about his his his thoughts about Greg Biffle and
his family. I asked at the end of the last segment,
are you spending more or less for Christmas? And we've

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got folks who have been jumping in and giving us
a sort of a take. I want to reach out
to Carol first up, Carol, welcome to the program. How
how how are you adjusting on the on, the on,
the on the spending? You there, I'm here.

Speaker 22 (01:11:13):
I'm sorry, I wasn't there. My phone's doing things.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Hey.

Speaker 22 (01:11:17):
Hehi, you Merry Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Merry Christmas. Hey.

Speaker 22 (01:11:21):
I just wanted to say, Okay, so I'm not necessarily
spending more this year because I kind of put I
put a limit on, you know, my expenses.

Speaker 23 (01:11:31):
But I'm not.

Speaker 22 (01:11:31):
Buying as much.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Gotcha, gotcha.

Speaker 22 (01:11:34):
And it's it's hard because I know, you know, my children,
they want to buy their kids all these things, and
I told them, I said, yeah, but when one gift
is sixty or seventy dollars for a six year old,
you know, you need to put limits. And it's a
good teaching you know, it's a good learning thing for
not only parents, but for the children too that you

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don't have to have twenty presents or the Christmas tree.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
That's a good point. That's a good point.

Speaker 22 (01:12:03):
And you know that's hard, you know, especially when the
kids are young and everything. But yeah, so I'm not
buying as much, but you know, I try and just
keep a limit on what I spend.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
That's a good move. That's that way you don't end
up with those massive you know, credit card bills and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Right.

Speaker 22 (01:12:21):
So, yeah, and I've done and I've done that in
the past, especially when you're a new grandma. Oh you know,
you know, you want to buy everything. And the thing
is is the kids, the kids don't play with all
of it. They find that one or second gift and
then the rest of it just sits there and you
wind up giving it away or selling it at the
garage sale a year or two later.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
That's a great take. That's awesome. Merry Christmas to you, Carol,
and I appreciate you being on the show with me.

Speaker 22 (01:12:47):
Well Merry Christmas twos.

Speaker 20 (01:12:49):
Thanks for you do.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Oh it's my pleasure. I mean, this is really great. See,
so we got we got people. They're they're they're doing
it in very interesting sort of ways. Like here's one
less has to fit in the stocking that comes from
that is from Jeff Steve. Steve says, this year I

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spent a little more, not because of any economic factors.
I simply wanted to do it. That's great. See that
you have you have the power for commerce. You decide
what you're going to do in terms of commerce. Let's see. Oh,
well this is good, it's very good. This is Randy.

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Randy says, spending more, have a much better job and
pay Now, that's that's a great call. Big time. That's
a that's that's a big time call. Robert Robert. Uh,
let's see what what does Robert have to say here?
Robert says, fifty for family circle and one hundred for

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my parents and two hundred for my daughter and wife. Wow,
that that's a really good way to do that because
otherwise you're gonna end up with like, oh my gosh,
what did I do? And look, remember the thing is
if you have like adults in your in your life,
theoretically they're gonna give you gifts, and you're gonna give gifts,

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and then what do you have to steal a line
from Rocky Balboa? I got gifts, you got gifts, we
got gifts. Come on, you remember that. You know that
that's not actually the line. It's I got gaps, you
got gaps. Together, we fill gaps. I mean, that was

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That's a that's a monstrosity of a line. That is
that is amazing when you think about this, I wonder
how much though, Like, for example, there are people I
see these commercials on TV where like the guy gets
a Mercedes or the guy gets like a super tricked
out big truck. How how do you get that sitution?

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Like I can't imagine getting a car or a truck
or something with a big bow on it. Because I'm
gonna tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why, because
how do you know that you're getting the thing that
the guy really wants or the gal really wants? Like,
how do you know that that's the right vehicle.

Speaker 19 (01:15:24):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Look, you may be getting them like a like a Mercedes,
but all he wanted was a fierro. He just wanted
a fierro. He's like, give me a fierro, give me
a Shirocco, give me, give me, gimme, gimme, gimme fried chicken.
I mean, I don't you know that's that's a line
from a movie. But that's the thing I always wonder
I would be I would be too nervous to go

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buy a vehicle and say this is for you, especially
if you don't know for sure, make color all that
sort of stuff. I mean, that's that's kind of a
that's a that's a that's a big thing. Carmen, welcome
to the program.

Speaker 23 (01:16:05):
But as you're going to speaking to you, Brett as always,
how are your day going?

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Oh, my day is great. How are you doing?

Speaker 23 (01:16:11):
I'm doing very good. I just wanted to call to
speak on the Christmas gift stuff. Yes, my wife and
I we do things maybe.

Speaker 21 (01:16:18):
A little bit different than a lot of people.

Speaker 23 (01:16:20):
Do now, and maybe because of our age, their kids
and also grandkids. So our kids are obviously grown up,
and what we do is we actually budget, so we
can already tell you, probably in January what we're going
to spend next year because we kind of figured out
in our head and we put so much away each
month for it. Oh, I just budget for it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
That's all hard. No, nothing, that's awesome. That is a
great plan. That's a great plan. I like that. That
is that is you know, yeah, yeah, you don't want
you know, you pay for it for the rest of
the year, you know. I mean, that's that's exactly right.
That's great. I applaud you for this. That is fantastic.

Speaker 23 (01:16:58):
It took some time to get to that point, but
we got to that point.

Speaker 12 (01:17:01):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
Yeah. Oh no, I got you. I got you. Thanks
for being out there, Carmen, and have a have a
very merry Christmas, my.

Speaker 7 (01:17:06):
Friend you as well.

Speaker 23 (01:17:08):
I have a merry Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Yeah you got it. Oh, I got an, I got a.
I got an answer from Josh. Josh says, nobody wants
a shiroco Brett, nobody wants a Hiaco. What about a Fierro?
What about an Opal? What about an Opal?

Speaker 7 (01:17:24):
What about.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
How about a Ford? How about how about a Ford
Fiesta with seven hundred thousand miles on it? You could
do it. It's possible. It's it's IMPI it's very possible.
Uh oh, I've got okay, I got a message that
just came in here real quick. I know who for
a break, and I will I will make it good.
I promise. Hey, Brett. I used to live one point

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five miles from the Darlington Racetrack and met Greg Biffle
when he was a rookie. We lived on a road
that had a personal airport. Greg landed there but didn't
know how to get to the racetrack, so my sister

(01:18:08):
gave him a ride to the track. I met him
the following year and got his autograph. He was such
a nice and selfless person. My heart is heavy with
this news. Prayers for him and his family. You know,
that's one of the things that that I realized early
on when I came to Charlotte, and that was that

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these drivers are like family for the fans and and
and with everybody else, and that is that's a very special,
special thing. Thank you for that, for that message. I
really appreciate you uh reaching out to us. I'm Brett
Whitterble and welcome back. It's it's the Brett Winterbole Show.

(01:19:12):
Brett Winterable Show. What O seven point nine FMWBT Charlotte's
FM News Talk. Okay, so now let's let's oh, we
got people people have opined with how they're been, how
they're gonna be spending. So let's see what we got
here first. Uh, okay, this is Sheila. I always start

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for the next year the day after every holiday, So
December twenty sixth, I start shopping the sales for next
year and Valentine's Day. I will shop on the fifteenth
of February for Valentine's Day cards and decorations for the
following year.

Speaker 7 (01:19:51):
That is amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
I wish I was that organized like that is That
is quite That is qu a.

Speaker 7 (01:20:02):
Development.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Walter says, bring back the shirako. So so let me
just say this, Nick, you are you have a kindred spirit,
kindled spirits there. Jay says, it's been a good year
business wise, but staying neutral with spending rather than have

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money saved and see how the first and second quarter
of the coming year goes. That's Jay. I think that's
a good that's a good point. You know, we've been,
we've been, We've been through some stuff here. I mean,
when you really think, if you think about the first
twenty five going into twenty six years of this time

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that we're living in, Like there's only a couple of
years where we're like unscathed, like you know, nine to eleven,
mortgage meltdown, all that kind of crazy stuff, and then
you get into all kinds of other stuff going on.
I mean, like you think about what we've been We've
been through some serious real estate, like really big real estate.

(01:21:12):
When you think about where we are, and there are
people that I know who say, man, well, I wish
I could wake up and it's like nineteen seventy seven
or nineteen seventy eight, all that kind of thing. But see,
I don't. I wouldn't want to go back. I wouldn't
want to go back because the beauty of not going

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back is the thing that keeps you.

Speaker 7 (01:21:37):
Excited.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
Like if I went back and I saw myself at
that age, I would freak out because I would I
would feel like, Okay, I've got to do homework, or
I've got to do this, or that I don't know
how to end how this all ends. But I'll tell
you this right now. It's more exciting than knowing what
happened before, because like we have, we have like all

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of this incredible stuff that we get to do and
we don't even know it's over the horizon, and that
that is that's the that's the thing that's the best
because we already know what we've lived, but we don't
know what we're going to see in the future. And

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I think, I think that is a h that's a
very important that's an important thing because it's it's like,
it's like nothing else in the world, the surprises that
come our way, good, bad and indifferent. It's important for
us to understand how we how we process this Now.
It depends on your generation because if you if you're

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somebody who's in a in a in a gen X
kind of a situation. Everything for gen X people, because
I'm a gen X person. Everything for gen X people.
We could ride that pony all day, no problema, you're
not freaking us out. It's a great poll, great poll

(01:23:14):
for the program brought to you by who Nick It
is the Brett Winerble Show. It's great to be with you.
All right, Let's take a look at some other stuff
that is that is happening. Everything is fair game. By
the way, if you if you want to go back
to the speech from last night with the President more
than happy to hear from you if you want to,

(01:23:36):
if you want to opine about any of the stuff
that's moving in this real time, and especially most importantly
obviously the passing of of Greg Biffel and and the
the family and all of this. I mean, this is
oh man, It's just it's just one of those things, right,
And you just never know when those sorts of things

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are are going to are going to have And that's
really what it all comes down to when you think
about all this sort of stuff. Did you guys know,
I'm always kind of surprised that certain stories become important,
but other stories don't become important. So you saw obviously

(01:24:19):
the attack that took place at Brown University, but we
also had an attack in Massachusetts at MIT. Have you
guys heard this story, First the Brown University shooting, then
an MIT professor murder and police investigate a possible link.

(01:24:44):
Now get a load of this, you would think this
guy who they killed, whoever they were, you would think
this would be a much bigger story because of who
this guy is. Authorities on Thursday continued the search for
the killer of a world renowned, renowned Massachusetts Institute of

(01:25:05):
Technology MIT professor who specialized in fusion energy, who was
a physicist who was shot and killed inside his home
near Boston earlier this week, a suspicious attack that occurred
just days after the deadly Brown shooting. The MIT professor

(01:25:30):
this guy is like one of those guys that's like
way on the other level, Like you're just like, whoa
what are you doing? MIT professor and fusion energy physicist
Nuno F. Gomes Lareo. He's forty seven, was forty seven
years old. He was pronounced dead at a local hospital

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on Tuesday after being shot multiple times in his home
in Brookline, which is a that's a very quiet neighborhood.
I mean, you know, nothing goes on goes over there.
On Monday night, the Norfolk or the Norfolk District Attorney's

(01:26:14):
office and local authorities said that they had launched a
homicide investigation. It is not a hype, It is not
hyperbole to say MIT is where you go to find
solutions to humanity's biggest problems, Laurino said recently when he
was named the head. This guy's the head of MIT's

(01:26:39):
plasma science lab.

Speaker 7 (01:26:42):
Like I don't even know what that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
Means fusion energy will change the course of human history.
He said, whoa hold on? Hold on? Is that possibly
a motive that somebody would want to take this guy out.
The murder of Laio occurred two days after the Brown shooting,

(01:27:09):
which took place fewer than fifty miles away. Local media
wpr I Rhode Island reports that investigators are now searching
for a possible link between the two shootings. Senior law
enforcement sources say federal, state, and local authorities have uncovered

(01:27:32):
evidence suggesting that the two incidents may be connected, marking
a major shift in the investigation. This contrasts with earlier
statements from the FBI Boston Field office, which said they
were there appeared to be no connection. At Brown, the

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gunmen killed Ella Cook and Mohammed A z's UMIROV. Cook
served as the vice president of the Ivy League School's
College Republicans. In both cases, the shooting suspects remain at large.

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Nuno was not only a brilliant scientist, he was a
brilliant person, said Dennis White, a fellow MIT professor that
he wrote in an obituary at the university. White noted
he shone bright light as a mentor, friend, teacher, colleague,
and leader, and was universally admired for his articulate, compassionate manner.

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His loss is immeasurable to our community, especially on the
entire fusion and plasma research world. By midweek, the Israeli
news publication The Jerusalem Post reported that the Israeli officials

(01:29:05):
were examining intelligence suggesting a possible Iranian connection to Lario's
shooting death. The outlet cautioned that the assessment has not
been verified and is not supported at this stage by

(01:29:26):
official findings from the US investigative authorities. Separately, Times of
Israel published a blog post by the journalist Raphael Baptista,
who wrote, quote, imagine having unlimited energy, cheap clean energy.

(01:29:49):
What would that do to the entrenched interests and powerful monopolies?
Think of the whole It would blow in the fossil
fuel industry and national security. If I were putin or
kame an Ee, I would be happy about a technological

(01:30:10):
leap coming from his research. Even I wouldn't be I'm sorry,
I wouldn't be happy. Even Israeli authorities haven't ruled out
Iran's involvement. A breakthrough like this would have led such
regimes permanently behind it would redraw the balance of global power.

(01:30:37):
So then what would we have to think about this?
What if? What if the murder of the of the
professor was the real attack and they just used the
attack on Brown University to scatter everybody and totally different directions.

(01:31:02):
That's pretty weird. That is pretty weird. The strange shooting
deaths occurred just days apart, less than an hour away
from each other, at two of America's leading IVY schools.

Speaker 7 (01:31:21):
Wow.

Speaker 14 (01:31:23):
Wow, I mean this is this is power at its best.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
Brett Winnable Show one O seven point nine FMWBT, Charlotte FM,
Charlot's FM News Talk. Let's uh talk to Matt. Matt,
what's on your mind?

Speaker 7 (01:32:04):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:32:04):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
Hey?

Speaker 18 (01:32:06):
Britt?

Speaker 13 (01:32:07):
Hi doing brother?

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
I'm doing great. I'm doing great.

Speaker 13 (01:32:09):
How are you? You're hanging out for the uh? You
filling in for breaking Britt tonight?

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
Yes, sir, I'll be up. I'll be up all the
way till seven.

Speaker 13 (01:32:17):
Yes, sir, Well I'm going to hang out with you then. Cool.
Hey you buddy, listen, it's my duty is a longtime
caller and uh and a WBT listener that I have
to self report myself. My wife had a flat tire
and she called me at work today and I said,
just bring it down and pull it in the shop.
Fix it is probably a nail or something. And it

(01:32:38):
was porn rains. So when she got there, she just
sat in the office. I went out and I got
in the car, and when I turned the key on,
I got bush whacked with that song that I will
not mention. Yeah I did, I got I got bush whacked.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
It's okay, man, it happens to the best of us.

Speaker 13 (01:32:55):
Well, but hey, you were talking about that. You were
talking about that shooting up there with the professor about
the fusion. Yes, and kind of like that movie I
forget the name of it. Tom Cruise was the investigator
and they shot like five people to take the focus
off the person that they were really after. That would

(01:33:17):
be interesting to maybe do a diversion like that. I
don't know if there's I don't know if that's really
what happened, but I mean that's kind of creepy, uh
you know, because somebody that is an expert about fusion
like that, I mean, what would that mean?

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
Who?

Speaker 13 (01:33:34):
Who would that hurt the most? The people that sell oil.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
Well, I mean I think I think the well, the Iranians,
right that they all they have is oil at this
stage of the game. Maybe maybe another malign group in
the Middle East, maybe maybe Putin because he's got oil.
Yeah you did.

Speaker 13 (01:33:56):
You did say though that or maybe it was Anna
Erikson or somebody, but somebody on the station said that
they do have some evidence that they might be connected.

Speaker 7 (01:34:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
Yeah, the the Jerusalem Post and the Times of Israel
said said that. Yes, so that's coming out of Israel.

Speaker 13 (01:34:13):
Yeah, scary stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:34:15):
Which is which is interesting because Israel does not really
have any provable oil reserves to that to that degree,
and being.

Speaker 13 (01:34:24):
What fifty miles away like that wouldn't be that big
of a stretch of the imagined, right well.

Speaker 1 (01:34:29):
Right, and so if you had if you had somebody
shot at Brown and then a couple of days later
you have somebody shot at m I T, that might
that might flag it a little bit, but that also
would probably still be a bigger story. If you are
looking at Brown versus just one guy who got shot.

Speaker 13 (01:34:49):
You're not kidding that that is something. Hey, And one
more thing, if you have time coming sure, yeah, Craig Biff,
he you know, there's a lot of people in sports
that get rich and famous and they walk around like
rock stars. And what's this guy doing. He's flying his
own helicopter on his own dime to help these people

(01:35:14):
and fly baby formula and diapers and rescue people and
help people. What a what a stand up dude. You know,
it's such an absolute shame that that happened. I was
so sad to hear that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
So it's the sort of story that makes you want
to see like a like a statue built or something,
you know what I mean, like to to to acknowledge
that you know, doing this sort of thing, especially in
North Carolina. You know, I mean, this is the lowest
possible moment, and here's this guy coming out like a

(01:35:49):
like a like a like a boss man.

Speaker 13 (01:35:52):
And that absolutely I mean, I mean, first of all,
you got to be a brave guy to trade Peyton
with her cars at one hundred and ninety two hundred
miles an hour. Absolutely, But then when something like the
biggest natural disaster to hit North Carolina in recorded history,
that's right, and the first thing you think of is
to spend your time and money to go save and
help people. That's just an incredible story. I'd love to

(01:36:16):
see some kind of you're right, a statue or some
sort of acknowledgement, you know, a public like an official
acknowledgement like Greg Biffle day or a war or.

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
Something or maybe yeah, maybe maybe NASCAR decides that they're
going to be a heroic, you know, honoring a heroic
person you know, who is responsible and that and that
there's nothing but upside for that, I mean, because that
can live on forever, you know. I mean, that's.

Speaker 13 (01:36:41):
Absolutely and it should because it reminds people like me
and you what a real man is. You know that
that's that's what you do is whatever you can do
to help your neighbors or a real person and women
that are heroes too, just whatever you can do to
help these people. And you know, this guy he could
be sitting on a beach in Tahiti with oh yeah,

(01:37:01):
he's flying a helicopter into a flooded disaster area.

Speaker 7 (01:37:04):
Yep.

Speaker 13 (01:37:05):
I mean that's dangerous in and of itself, and.

Speaker 1 (01:37:07):
He's doing it multiple times. I mean that's like, you know,
he's bringing gear, he's doing all the sort of stuff
that you need to do and that you know, I
mean that that's that. It's it's just at all the
people you know that are out there. I mean, it's
it's that that's he was very much an unsung kind
of hero. He didn't he didn't go around and and

(01:37:29):
brag or anything like that. So that's really cool.

Speaker 13 (01:37:32):
You's got the job done.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
I appreciate you calling. I like your perspective, Matt, and
I was like, Hey.

Speaker 13 (01:37:38):
I'm gonna hang out for the next hour with your Thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
Brother, You got it, buddy. That's that's Matt Man and
Matt Matt is a is a bright light as well,
and that's why I like talking to him. So coming
up in the program, I've got I've got some thoughts
on on a couple of other things, and certainly one
of the things that I'm that I'm very curious about.

(01:38:00):
We haven't really talked about this, the idea of getting
seventeen hundred and seventy six dollars for people in the
military who are serving. This is this is a big
deal that the President announced last night. That is that
is an incredible thing and it's perfect when it comes

(01:38:23):
to seventeen seventy six, the beginning of our incredible nation. Oh, relax,
it's almost Ober come on, get with it. What I
would tell you, it's soudrage is.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
Filled with it.

Speaker 11 (01:38:37):
Now I'd love to do it right now.

Speaker 13 (01:38:38):
We'll stand your butt up.

Speaker 20 (01:38:39):
Then you stand yourup, butt up.

Speaker 18 (01:38:41):
Yeah, no way.

Speaker 1 (01:38:43):
The following takes place between six pm and seven pm.

Speaker 19 (01:38:47):
Coo cool, cool.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
It is the fourth hour. I'm in for breaking Bret Jensen.
Everything is about breaking Bret Jensen. But if you want
to call in, I'm so totally happy to spend time
with each and every one of you. We obviously are
are very sad about what happened earlier today, the terrible
plane crash that took place up in Statesville, taking the

(01:39:22):
lives of the Biffol family and and of course the
folks who are on the plane uh as well.

Speaker 23 (01:39:30):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
I'm talking about Greg Biffle and his wife and the
two kids that were on that flight. And it's such
a sad thing, especially this time of the year, especially
when when there's so much joyousness that should be out there.
And I want to I want to go and take
this call because this is a very important call. And
and this is Dan who's joining us on the program.

(01:39:53):
It says here that that you're fire chief in Western
North Carolina and you wanted to share your thoughts about
Greg Biffel. Welcome to the program.

Speaker 21 (01:40:03):
Sir, Thank you Brett.

Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 21 (01:40:06):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
You sound great? Absolutely.

Speaker 21 (01:40:10):
Like I said, I'm a chief into fire department in
western North Carolina. Our area was hit pretty hard. We
were isolated for almost two weeks before we started getting
any assistance. But we have a child who lives in
our district who requires a special food that has to
be administered through a feeding tube. And this family ran

(01:40:32):
out of food. And Gregg Biffle four times flew food
in for this child, four separate occasions, and made sure
that this child didn't die.

Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
Wow, wow, that's amazing.

Speaker 21 (01:40:53):
He flew internal landing, zoned our fire station and like
I said, on four separate occasions, provided the food. We
don't know where it came from, but he made sure
that Jit got the food that he needed to make it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
How How is he now? How is he now?

Speaker 21 (01:41:12):
He's fine? He survived. If it was rocky a few times.
There were times when we didn't think who we're going
to get this food?

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
Yeah? Look this is this? That is that's what a
hero is you. You guys are the heroes. He was
a hero because that that is putting such an incredible
effort to have this happen. But that's that you're you're
either born with it or you're not right. I mean,

(01:41:44):
isn't that Isn't that kind of how it goes?

Speaker 21 (01:41:47):
Yeah, it's kind of. This is about forty fourth year
in emergency services. I was a twenty year paid paramedic
in Charlotte.

Speaker 1 (01:41:53):
God bless you bad.

Speaker 21 (01:41:55):
I'm back in my home area where I still serve
and volunteer the years that I haven't been paid, I volunteered,
but through Samaritan's Purse contacts and through UH contacts UH
via Samarada's first to Greg Biffle, he made sure that
this young kid had this food every time we needed it.

(01:42:17):
A case would last him about five days wow. And
each time we would receive four cases at a time.
And then we would get a phone call. Once we
had phone service we established in our area, we would
get a text or phone call saying where are we at,
what do we need? And we would check with Brett's mom,
Jet's mom rather and UH touch base with her and

(01:42:39):
she would get word to us that she needed food.
And as soon as the word got out. Greg Biffle
was there.

Speaker 7 (01:42:46):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:42:48):
Do you do you remember the last time you saw him?
Does does it stick out to you in any way,
shape or form.

Speaker 21 (01:42:58):
Well, like I said, there were there were four times,
four casions that he came. The last time he landed,
he came by himself and he had the cases of
food in the co pilot seat in the helicopter and
landed open the door. We retrieved it, shook hands, thanked
each other for you know what we were doing. Yeah,

(01:43:19):
and uh and that was it. You know, there was
never any qualms, no issues.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
Yeah. How were you holding up, especially after after the
aftermath of the of the storm and all of that,
and and now obviously with the sad news of today,
how were you holding up?

Speaker 21 (01:43:36):
I'm doing okay, but we're still having issues in western
North Carolina. My department runs a distribution site through one
of the local churches. The pastor of that church as
a member in our In our department, we're all volunteer
county up there. There's no paid services whatsoever. We still
have a need. We're needing blankets, We're needing heating products,

(01:43:57):
propane for buddy heaters, which is an indoor propane heater
that you can use. Uh, we're needing food stuff. There
are three still sides operating up there. So it's not over.
It's not gonna be over for a long time. And
this last cold snap really took the wind out of
a lot of people's sails. We opened the doors on
Monday from ten to four at this side and we

(01:44:18):
had fifty people Monday alone.

Speaker 1 (01:44:20):
Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 21 (01:44:22):
What what have a lot of We still have a
lot of people living in campus, you know, and that's
in Mitchell County, an Yancy County.

Speaker 1 (01:44:33):
What what's your department that that that that you work with?
It's Double Island Fire Department, Double Island Fire Department. Okay, right, listen,
you need to you need to keep in touch with us.
People need to know this. People need to know what
what this is and how this is going. And you're

(01:44:58):
not alone, and and this audience is a very huge audience.
And the fact of the matter is we have to
stay connected with each other, politics aside, whatever, you know,
the things that we talk about. This is life and death.
And I appreciate you reaching out to us and talking
to us. And God bless you, God bless you.

Speaker 21 (01:45:20):
Man, Thank you, Thank you for taking the time to listen.
I've been beating the bushes this week, sending out emails
and making phone calls, uh, trying to find some supplies
that we're needing right now. We need blankets, We need
the little green propane bottles that you get at Walmart
that weigh about two pounds. Yeah, and there's some other
other food stuffs we need. But I'll be more than

(01:45:42):
happy to get back in touch with your station.

Speaker 1 (01:45:44):
Yeah, please do uh please please do that. I'm gonna
I'm gonna put you on hold get his uh specific
comptect information. Thank you for calling Dan, God bless you
and everybody else who's working up there. We'll we'll see
what we can try to do here.

Speaker 21 (01:46:01):
Man, we're North Carolina strong, and everybody's come through every
time we've needed something.

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
Well, it's gonna you're not being forgotten by any stretch
at all. Thank thank you very much for calling in today,
my friend. You got it, man, We're with you. We're
with you. Oh it dropped, call me back, Call me back.
The line dropped, Call me back. Please, Uh, the line

(01:46:28):
just dropped.

Speaker 7 (01:46:30):
Wow, you really got it. Now you got us. I
don't know how you really got me? Now you got

(01:46:56):
us guess that day.

Speaker 1 (01:47:04):
I'm going a little D L R Little Van Halen.
Keep y' all behaving yourselves on the roads. I am
Brett whatever. It's a pleasure to be with you. One
o seven point nine f m w BT Charlotte's FM
News Talk. But we we have to take the advantage
of the of the stereo sound. I mean, this is

(01:47:26):
what we have to do for you guys, and that's
what we are doing. Uh, everything is fair game here.
I want to go into a couple of other storylines though,
and I think there's some stuff that is that is
that is very very important. By the way, we were
able to get uh the contact information so that we
can try to try to help these folks out that
are still stranded in such a bad way in in

(01:47:49):
western North Carolina. And we should not ever forget what
has happened here, Okay, we we should never forget that.
It's a it's a very important, uh conversation that we
should always remember to have because especially during this time
of the year, it's easy to have Christmas parties and
celebrations and all this sort of stuff, but there are

(01:48:09):
people who are still in peril and that that is
something that we should not stand for as American people.
And that's a very important point. I think at least
maybe you have an opinion on that as well. So
one of the stories that's kind of interesting here and

(01:48:30):
it's it's about Turning Point. So you've got Turning Point
Youth Conference beginning in Phoenix, obviously without Charlie Kirk for
obvious reasons. But there are a lot of people who
are saying, Okay, okay, there's these theories, there's all these
crazy things that are going on here. But the secret

(01:48:52):
to all of this, if you really think about this,
imagine the difficulty getting every everybody to come and spend
time in one location over the course of a number
of days where people can network, can talk, can put
each other together. I know there are people who may

(01:49:14):
not necessarily love Charlie Kirk or Turning Point. I believe
that more engagement is better for our constitutional republic. I
have never been a person that would go up to
somebody who was a progressive or who was a left

(01:49:36):
winger type and go up and try to assault them.
I would never do that, and I don't understand, well,
I do understand that there are people who walk around
in our country who are incredibly immature. Now, I want

(01:49:57):
you to think about this for a quick second. You
go to a restaurant and you order some food, and
you eat the food. Do you know the politics of
the people who are cooking in the kitchen or the
person who is offering you you know, water or soda
or food or whatever that is. You probably don't know

(01:50:20):
what their politics are. At least I think that's how
it sort of should be, because if you don't know
what their politics are, you're just going to be polite
and be nice and talk to them, and they're going
to talk back with you. The issue we have today
is an incredibly owning the blank sort of setup on

(01:50:44):
every possible thing. And that's a problem. I love politics.
I make my living talking about politics and culture and
all of these things. But I would never decide that
I would not be friends with a long term friend

(01:51:05):
because of their politics. You want to know why I
would not do that. If you cut everybody out of
your life that you don't agree with, who are you
going to persuade? Like, I know a lot of people.
I have people in my family, I have people in

(01:51:27):
my circle who have very divergent politic ideas, and do
you know what I would never do. I would never
punch them, I would never harm them, I would never
ban them. I would never do any of that sort
of stuff. I don't know when this began, but I

(01:51:47):
have a sense as to when it probably began, and
that was when the war on boys began, because for
a long time people were very upset at how rambunctious
boys were, and so what they needed to do is
go get shot up with a bunch of Riddlin or

(01:52:08):
some other chemical or whatever that is. Young boys are rambunctious.
They grow at a different sort of pace than females do.
And the reality is they grow out of it if
you just let them go down that road. I grew

(01:52:30):
up with two younger brothers and I had no sisters,
so my mom raised three boys and had a husband.
And that's one of the things that I think is important.
I think what we're looking at with these attacks on
people on politics and going out and trying to murder

(01:52:52):
people because you disagree with them, it's because you are
an immature person who does not understand the value in persuasion.
Your idea of persuasion is taking poison and trying to
hurt people. I think if you are in the market

(01:53:13):
for a new Year's resolution, try to have a rope
prochemont with the people who you've cut out of your life.
Whether you're a conservative or a Democrat, whether you're a
conservative or a liberal, see if you can have a conversation.
I have many conversations with many people, and I don't

(01:53:35):
necessarily know what their politics are. But I'll tell you this,
not in a million years would I ever think to
try to harm them based on their politics, because I
want to persuade. I don't want to force you into
something you don't believe. And it is the great Windable show.

(01:54:14):
Good to be with you. What oh seven point nine
FMWBT Charlotte's FM News Talk. How about this little development
that has taken place. This is not something I thought
would happen, but oh boy, check this out. The president
of Ecuador, his name is Daniel Noboa. N Oboa, announced

(01:54:39):
on Wednesday that his country would be welcoming members of
the United States Air Force for a temporary joint operation
intended to fight drug trafficking and narco terrorism. The American
Embassy in Quito confirmed the arrival of US forces to

(01:55:04):
the port city of Manta, where Ecuadorian military maintains Air
Force units in facilities where US forces were formally stationed
prior to the country banning permanent foreign military bases. So

(01:55:26):
now we got a base in Ecuador. The news arrives
shortly after the Department of Homeland Security DHS chief Christy
Nome visited the Manta Air Force Base alongside Noboa in November,
and follows months of Noboa publicly asking Donald Trump for

(01:55:51):
reinforcements to help the country fight its increasingly powerful drug
trafficking gangs. So this guy's picking up the phone, he's
calling the President and he's going, can you guys send
us some help, because we have got a real problem
with the with the drugs that are here. This is
a real big problem.

Speaker 7 (01:56:12):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
I don't know how familiar you guys are with uh,
with with the with the the countries in South America. Okay,
but like, let's let's take a look here for the
countries and in South America. Uh, very interesting sort of
a thing here. You wouldn't you wouldn't necessarily know know this,

(01:56:35):
unless you would you would know this. But yeah, so
so you've got you've got Venezuela, so like Venezuela is
like at the top next to Venezuela, going uh into
the Pacific, you have Colombia. Colombia and Venezuela are our

(01:56:56):
cheek by jowl, and the Colombian forces are are being
controlled by the FARC. The FARC is a paramilitary group
that sells drugs, just like Venezuela does. So it's fitting
that these two countries are like right there together. You

(01:57:17):
got Venezuela, then you got Colombia, and then you've got
this little thing, this little tiny thing, You've got Ecuador.
Ecuador's on the Pacific coast and it's a small country,
but Quito is right there. Now, this is interesting. If

(01:57:38):
I were to read this map properly, and I think
I am, you already have off the coast of Venezuela,
the American military forces that are there with the ships.
If you go to Ecuador, which is right next to Colombia,

(01:58:00):
which is right next to Venezuela, you're gonna now have
American forces on the ground in Ecuador. So it looks
to me like this is a pincer movement because we
know Venezuela is a narco state and we know pretty

(01:58:22):
much that Colombia is a Narco state, and then you've
got other countries Peru and Bolivia and Brazil and all
that sort of stuff. But this looks like a pincer movement.
And then here's what's really like super interesting when you
look at the broader map, right, so Central America's map,

(01:58:45):
all you got to do is just take a peek
here and you'll see you have Panama, you have Costa Rica,
both countries friendly to the United States. You've got Nicaragua,
which is basically a Venezuelan kind of set up commies.
And then you've got Duras, and right next to Andduas,

(01:59:06):
you've got El Salvador. It looks to me like there's
some strategicy going on here, Like there's some serious strategicy
happening here. So what are we to do? What are
we to figure out?

Speaker 7 (01:59:22):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:59:22):
In a separate statement, the American Embassy in Ecuador confirmed
the operation, referring to it as a temporary operation. This
joint short term effort is part of a long term
bilateral security strategy, the embassy said, echoing Noboah's language. In

(01:59:43):
line with the agreements currently active, conforming to Ecuadorian law.
So you have like these really poor countries who are
selling dope, and then you've got this opportunity that exists.
Like there's another storyline that nobody's really talking about, but

(02:00:04):
I think it's very interesting. Do you know that if
you go into Nicaragua, If you go into Nicaragua and
you go there to spend time vacating or whatever you're doing,
you're not allowed to bring a Bible into Nicaragua owing
to the famousness of the communist takeover of that country.

(02:00:25):
That goes back, you know, to three decades ago. But
this is like they're reordering. They're reordering the things that
you would want to be reordered. You would want Venezuela
to be a free country. Remember when Venezuela was taken
over by Chavez, they voided all of our all of

(02:00:48):
our ability to look for oil in Venezuela, and we
were not compensated for that. That was a basically a
commi revolution. Only that the guy in the White House
wants to get those things back, and it may happen
sooner rather than later. Remember, I think it was like Christmas.

(02:01:11):
I think it was like Christmas time in many years
ago when you saw the revolution take place in Romania
and suddenly you had a different outcome.

Speaker 24 (02:01:28):
Like magic, Radio has changed our lives and they changed
our lives. Radio has changed our lives. Radio changed our lives.

Speaker 7 (02:01:49):
I want to tell you about.

Speaker 1 (02:01:54):
Final segment of this program, but coming up next you're
going to have Ritchie joining it for a couple hours.
It's going to be a very very good show. I've
I've already gotten a sense of what it is that's
going to be happening. So you want to stick around
after me. And I'm in for breaking Bret Jensen, and
I hope I have not broken Bred Jensen. That's one

(02:02:17):
of the fears that I that I have sometimes. How
about the CPI report? Did you guys see this? It
turns out that inflation is going down now, it's going down, down, down, down.
Trust these numbers. Economists see a lot of flaws in
the delayed CPI report showing downward inflation. Well, why would

(02:02:37):
that be the case. What is the number one thing
that people consume that is not a food product when
you go to buy it gas gasoline? Now, I don't
know how much you guys have have paid for your
gasoline filling up your tank doing all that sort of stuff.

(02:02:58):
But I'm guessing it's pro probably not like three fifty five.
It's probably not three fifty five a gallon. It's probably
not four to twenty eight a gallon. It's probably none
of that. It's probably closer to like, what like a
two fifty two fifty two. I got gas last week,
and I okay, now, admittedly I got it at costco

(02:03:24):
man two thirty three. It was two thirty three the
last time I paid two thirty three. I think, man,
I's probably last century. I don't mean like pretty much.
So so if you have a falling price for gasoline,

(02:03:49):
what does that translate to? Everything else is going to
be cheaper? Everything else is going to be cheaper. So
Thursday saw the relief of a much lighter than expected
consumer price report for November, breaking from the recent trend
of sticky inflation. Okay, but the price of gas is cheap.

(02:04:17):
The price of gas is cheap, which means it goes
through the entire economy. Everything comes back to gasoline, to energy.
You can't do anything without energy, you can't. The Bureau
of Labor Statistics reported that the Consumer Price Index had
an annual inflation rate of two point seven percent last month,

(02:04:43):
while CPI a measure that excludes volatile food and energy prices.
What are the two most important things that you have
to have in your house energy and.

Speaker 7 (02:04:55):
Food.

Speaker 1 (02:04:56):
You have to have food and you have to have
the energy. So why would we say, let's look at
everything except those two things.

Speaker 2 (02:05:05):
That are.

Speaker 1 (02:05:07):
What they are a measure excluding volatile food, and I
do not want to eat any volatile food, by the way,
and energy prices was even lower at two point six percent.
Both were below what the economists had been estimating. So
the silly gooses over at CNBC want to believe that

(02:05:31):
it's actually really high inflation that's happening right now, despite
what you're seeing with your gasoline. Why are they doing this?
Why are they trying to jawbone the economy? Why are
they trying to do that. They're trying to demoralize you.
They're trying to push you into what anybody, anybody, they're

(02:05:56):
trying to push you into feeling like there's a recession.
There's not. There's not. We're not in a recession. What's
happening is Joe Biden kept spending and spending and spending.
So what happens if you pour more money into the economy.
If you pour more money into the economy, what happens. Okay,
I'll give you an example, because we were just talking

(02:06:17):
about the cartels and we were talking about the dope
and all this sort of stuff. If you if you
produce a lot of drugs, does the price get higher,
does it get lower? It gets lower? Same thing with
the food, Same thing with the You can't you can't
guess or pretend that things are lower than they are

(02:06:40):
or that they are higher than they are, because it's
a there's a reality check that comes into with this.
So if you're paying all right, so I said two
thirty three, so like let's say let's say it's two
forty eight.

Speaker 14 (02:06:55):
That's still really good.

Speaker 1 (02:06:57):
Like you're going to be able to buy gas, go
to work, which means you have extra money in your
pocket to buy the stuff that your kids want, maybe
more Christmas presents, maybe whatever, maybe streaming services, maybe any
of that sort of stuff. I'm not seeing people saying, hey,
I can't get anything. I can't just there's no way

(02:07:18):
for me to be able to afford all these gifts.
Go to the stars, go to the see what they've got.
That's out there, there's tons of stuff. We are in
a good economy, Chuck Schumer wants to tell you we're
in a bad economy. Chuck Schumer also wants to tell
you that it's that it's I'm sorry to put it
this way, but I'm gonna do it. Chuck Schumer also

(02:07:41):
wants you to believe that we don't have narcotics targeting
our children when we know darn well that we do.
We have to remember between now and the new year,
we have to sit back and we have to remember
that politicians telling you that America is no good. Those
are politicians you shouldn't kick it with. You should try

(02:08:03):
to persuade them, but you shouldn't take them seriously because
up is down and down is up, and that's the problem. AOC.
AOC predicts triumph over jd Vance in a hypothetical In

(02:08:26):
a hypothetical twenty twenty eight matchup, she says she can
beat jd Vance. Really, they grow up so fast, they
grow up so fast, it's amazing. I who's gonna vote
for her over jd Vance. She's not ready for prime time.

(02:08:49):
She's gonna, first of all, have to take over the
job that Chuck Schumer has and he's gonna be put
out the pasture. Dick Durbin is being put out to pasture.
And let me tell you a number of other people
are gonna be going out to pasture. They're not ready
for primetime. They are not ready for primetime. But I
can tell you who is ready for primetime.

Speaker 10 (02:09:08):
Me.

Speaker 7 (02:09:08):
You.

Speaker 1 (02:09:09):
We are right, we are correct, we are winning the arguments.
Now I'm handing off the banner to TJ Ritchie. He's
gonna blow the doors off this joint. Thanks so much
for spending time with me. I'll be back tomorrow. Don't worry.
Enjoy the rest of your night. TJ. Ritchie's up next
on one O seven point nine FMWBT, Charlotte's FM News

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