August 1, 2025 • 9 mins
Tune in here to this Friday edition of the Brett Winterble Show!
Brett kicks off the program by talking with Pete Kaliner about a lack of open jobs, despite a "roaring" economy. Next, Brett shares a clip from "Morning Joe", in which the host downplays Donald Trump's success in executing deportations at the Southern Border compared to the deportations that Joe Biden and Barack Obama had during their Presidencies. Pete hypothesizes that the host got lost in the logic of the point that he was trying to bring to the table. This leads Brett and Pete to discuss whether this clip contributes to the argument about the importance of quality over quantity when it comes to deportations.
Then, the two go on to discuss whether Biden used an autopen to deport illegal immigrants. Pete shares that he found out that one of the Biden staffers testified under oath that he signed off on every pardon and bill that came across his desk. He goes on to remark that this is most likely not true, since this means he would have to physically sign his name on each individual document. Finally, Brett shares another clip of Biden accusing Trump's administration of "easing" all of the gains that his administration made.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Dow's Talk eleven ten nine three WBT. It is the
hang over, and I am forcing Pete Calender, one of
my favorite people.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
In this room, to uh to uh stick around with us.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
It's good to be with you, my friend, and uh
good to be with It's I'm glad that you're with
and we are with and we're Yes, that's good. Uh
So let me, uh let me take you to a
place that I didn't think was really gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
But this is this one of your tours.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
No, you're not taking me out, not an actual tour.
We're just going to take a little tour.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
The economy is roaring. Everybody sees this. But we only
got seventy three thousand jobs in this last report, seventy
three thousand jobs.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
We have a lot of people in this country.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
We have fewer now though we do. And I think
that the native born workforce numbers, yes, drove that versus
the immigrant or foreign born data set.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
This is great.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I'm glad you did this, Pete, because you set me
up perfectly to have you react to something. Okay, and
it's going to be have you got my sound in there, Okay,
give me, give me, give me, give me, give me,
Gimme cut thirteen, one of your favorite programs, Morning Joe Go.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
For a long time, his strongest political card or strongest
political issue have deteriorated considerably, and I think they're going
to keep getting worse if they keep going down this path.
So John Lemuir talking about how the White House is
balancing this. You have, in one instance, a southern border
which Donald Trump promised he would secure. You wouldn't have
(01:58):
the number of migrants crossing every day that you had
during the Biden administration. That certainly is the case. I mean,
the southern border is as secure as it's been in
sixty years. On the other side of that, Joe Biden
was able to deport a larger number of people who
came here illegally because there were so many more near
(02:21):
the southern border. Now that's not the case. So you
have the Trump administration on one hand wanting to be
able to celebrate basically for the most part, quiet southern border,
but to keep up with the numbers of Biden, to
keep up with the numbers of Obama, they're having to
(02:44):
go into neighborhoods, They're having to do things that they
know are not politically positive for them, and also or
just are brutish and turn off a lot of voters,
are they?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Because I, I.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Just got it.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I didn't even know. Is he like circling a point,
trying to kill it? Like I don't understand that guy
is a broadcaster, he's been on the TV for how
long years? A sentence?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's insane. But but.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
The Trump administration is brutal. They are more brutal. Is
more brutal. Brutality, kids in cages, not brutal.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Not brutal.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
That was not brutal?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Why and Obama did it?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
When Obama did it, and and Joe Biden and and uh,
of course we had AOC crying and your outfit and
all that clothing.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So also like I'm perplexed at the point that he, yes,
again maybe was circling to kill I couldn't tell, but
I I almost got the sense that he couldn't figure
out the logic of the point he was trying to
make in real tea, I lost, right, because the reason why,
like the reason why, right, the deportation numbers are lower
(03:59):
is because you're not nabbing a billion people a day
at the southern border, correct and sending you know, two
million of them home.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Correct, like when the Haitians were getting.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Whipped right, that's right with the guy on the horse right,
which it wasn't, which it wasn't fake news again And yeah,
so like if you're if you've got fewer people that
you're interacting with at the border, then of course that
number is going to be zero because you're not deborting
anybody that gets across the border. Okay, you're stopping them.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So you're really good at detecting the double speak and
the craziness and things. Is this an argument for quality
versus quantity of deporting?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
It does sound very similar.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
It feels a little like a like a eugenicist kind
of kind of Racisty are we getting? We're getting this group,
but not these people. Those people don't count as much.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
As they're not sending their best.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Very weird, very weird take.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
And I'm also curious on this idea that he's in
order to keep up with Biden and Obama's numbers. Like, granted,
I've not seen every single utterance of Donald Trump on
this issue. True, However, I have never heard him ever
talk about I need to have more deportations than Biden.
(05:23):
He doesn't say that he says, yes, all the criminal
aliens got to get out. We're gonna we're gonna lock
down the border, and we're gonna deport all of the
criminal aliens.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
He has never even talked about like mass deportation of
you know, non criminal aliens. He's he has talked about, yeah,
they all got to go home in this, but he's
never laid out this mass deportation plan. That's Stephen Miller's thing.
That's sort of yes, yeah, I mean Stephen Miller's he's
driving that.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
That's his portfolio. Yes, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Is it possible that Joe Biden used an autopen to
deport people?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I don't know now, Supposedly I was saw this today
that one of his people said, I guess they tested this.
They were testifying today and under oath or something, yes yesterday,
and they said that, oh no, no, he signed off
on every pardon and every bill. He signed off on
all that. Well, but that doesn't make any sense. It
(06:19):
doesn't because signing off is literally signing your name and
putting it in a machine. Right, So if he were
signing off on everything, you would not need an auto
pen in the first place. That's exactly handed him the
pen and he'll literally sign off on even give.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Him a stamper, a big stand like cold, do a
stamper on that.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Can you imagine the look on Joe's face when they
hand him that stamper and he just would light up?
I mean it would be so much fun for him
that blank stare off into the distance and he'd just
be like, is mouth gaping open?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
You know, Go ahead, mister president, you're vetoing all of this.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Go ahead, Yes, yeah, this is right.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Chocolate chocolate chip.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Speaking of which, cut number seventeen, all your audience on,
I got a ton of it. Cut number seventeen. We
play it. You say it as Rushwood, say go.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
My friends. You need to face the heart truths of
this administration and has been to ease all the gage
we've made in my administration to race history, rather than
make it to race fairness, getting shouty quality to race
chess itself. And that's not hyperble. That's a fact.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Oh never, God, love you, what am I talking about?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So it's never hyperbole with Joe Biden. It's always a fact.
I'm under saying, that's high, that's.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Deadly earnest Jack, look fat.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
The look. So two things I got off of that.
Number One, he was getting shouty, which that that is
sort of in that age demographic.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
But the do you notice the hiss Yes.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And I always point this out all these interviews that
he does. There's a and there's a term for it.
I forget what it's called. But he speaks so softly
that you have to the engineers have to turn the
mic volumes right all the way to the top. And
that's why you get that static sound. That's room noise,
(08:16):
that's airflow. Yes, like he's sitting in a room with
so he's got a little lava leer mic right up
next to his voice box, and you still hear that.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Sh yeah, right, room noise exactly right.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
And that's why it's because his voice is that weak
and he's and that's him at a microphone at a
podium in a hall designed for this very kind of
a thing.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Okay, but he got a better quality of deportations.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
That's right. He deported the right people.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
The right We got the right people to deport.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Trump's getting all the wrong people to deport and that
that's just not gonna.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
That's the difference.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I thought.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
He also said that he was he was getting rid
of gaze. Is that what he said?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I don't know. Can you rerack the rerack the old
man there?
Speaker 5 (08:59):
And my friends, we need to face the hard truths
of this administration and has been to ease all the
gains we've made.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Gains. Sorry, which they eat is game. They should have
put the game of the game audio.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
They get fake news. Uh, Pete Calendar, It's always a
pleasure to spend time with you, my friend, and I
appreciate you being in here with us. I gotta make
make an attempt to try to figure out exactly the
quality of the deportees.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
So deportees deportees, that's my new term.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Pete Calenar, enjoyed the weekend you two about it.
Dow's Talk eleven ten nine three WBT. It is the
hang over, and I am forcing Pete Calender, one of
my favorite people.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
In this room, to uh to uh stick around with us.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
It's good to be with you, my friend, and uh
good to be with It's I'm glad that you're with
and we are with and we're Yes, that's good. Uh
So let me, uh let me take you to a
place that I didn't think was really gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
But this is this one of your tours.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
No, you're not taking me out, not an actual tour.
We're just going to take a little tour.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
The economy is roaring. Everybody sees this. But we only
got seventy three thousand jobs in this last report, seventy
three thousand jobs.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
We have a lot of people in this country.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
We have fewer now though we do. And I think
that the native born workforce numbers, yes, drove that versus
the immigrant or foreign born data set.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
This is great.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I'm glad you did this, Pete, because you set me
up perfectly to have you react to something. Okay, and
it's going to be have you got my sound in there, Okay,
give me, give me, give me, give me, give me,
Gimme cut thirteen, one of your favorite programs, Morning Joe Go.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
For a long time, his strongest political card or strongest
political issue have deteriorated considerably, and I think they're going
to keep getting worse if they keep going down this path.
So John Lemuir talking about how the White House is
balancing this. You have, in one instance, a southern border
which Donald Trump promised he would secure. You wouldn't have
(01:58):
the number of migrants crossing every day that you had
during the Biden administration. That certainly is the case. I mean,
the southern border is as secure as it's been in
sixty years. On the other side of that, Joe Biden
was able to deport a larger number of people who
came here illegally because there were so many more near
(02:21):
the southern border. Now that's not the case. So you
have the Trump administration on one hand wanting to be
able to celebrate basically for the most part, quiet southern border,
but to keep up with the numbers of Biden, to
keep up with the numbers of Obama, they're having to
(02:44):
go into neighborhoods, They're having to do things that they
know are not politically positive for them, and also or
just are brutish and turn off a lot of voters,
are they?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Because I, I.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Just got it.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I didn't even know. Is he like circling a point,
trying to kill it? Like I don't understand that guy
is a broadcaster, he's been on the TV for how
long years? A sentence?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's insane. But but.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
The Trump administration is brutal. They are more brutal. Is
more brutal. Brutality, kids in cages, not brutal.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Not brutal.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
That was not brutal?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Why and Obama did it?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
When Obama did it, and and Joe Biden and and uh,
of course we had AOC crying and your outfit and
all that clothing.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So also like I'm perplexed at the point that he, yes,
again maybe was circling to kill I couldn't tell, but
I I almost got the sense that he couldn't figure
out the logic of the point he was trying to
make in real tea, I lost, right, because the reason why,
like the reason why, right, the deportation numbers are lower
(03:59):
is because you're not nabbing a billion people a day
at the southern border, correct and sending you know, two
million of them home.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Correct, like when the Haitians were getting.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Whipped right, that's right with the guy on the horse right,
which it wasn't, which it wasn't fake news again And yeah,
so like if you're if you've got fewer people that
you're interacting with at the border, then of course that
number is going to be zero because you're not deborting
anybody that gets across the border. Okay, you're stopping them.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So you're really good at detecting the double speak and
the craziness and things. Is this an argument for quality
versus quantity of deporting?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
It does sound very similar.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
It feels a little like a like a eugenicist kind
of kind of Racisty are we getting? We're getting this group,
but not these people. Those people don't count as much.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
As they're not sending their best.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Very weird, very weird take.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
And I'm also curious on this idea that he's in
order to keep up with Biden and Obama's numbers. Like, granted,
I've not seen every single utterance of Donald Trump on
this issue. True, However, I have never heard him ever
talk about I need to have more deportations than Biden.
(05:23):
He doesn't say that he says, yes, all the criminal
aliens got to get out. We're gonna we're gonna lock
down the border, and we're gonna deport all of the
criminal aliens.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
He has never even talked about like mass deportation of
you know, non criminal aliens. He's he has talked about, yeah,
they all got to go home in this, but he's
never laid out this mass deportation plan. That's Stephen Miller's thing.
That's sort of yes, yeah, I mean Stephen Miller's he's
driving that.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
That's his portfolio. Yes, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Is it possible that Joe Biden used an autopen to
deport people?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I don't know now, Supposedly I was saw this today
that one of his people said, I guess they tested this.
They were testifying today and under oath or something, yes yesterday,
and they said that, oh no, no, he signed off
on every pardon and every bill. He signed off on
all that. Well, but that doesn't make any sense. It
(06:19):
doesn't because signing off is literally signing your name and
putting it in a machine. Right, So if he were
signing off on everything, you would not need an auto
pen in the first place. That's exactly handed him the
pen and he'll literally sign off on even give.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Him a stamper, a big stand like cold, do a
stamper on that.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Can you imagine the look on Joe's face when they
hand him that stamper and he just would light up?
I mean it would be so much fun for him
that blank stare off into the distance and he'd just
be like, is mouth gaping open?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
You know, Go ahead, mister president, you're vetoing all of this.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Go ahead, Yes, yeah, this is right.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Chocolate chocolate chip.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Speaking of which, cut number seventeen, all your audience on,
I got a ton of it. Cut number seventeen. We
play it. You say it as Rushwood, say go.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
My friends. You need to face the heart truths of
this administration and has been to ease all the gage
we've made in my administration to race history, rather than
make it to race fairness, getting shouty quality to race
chess itself. And that's not hyperble. That's a fact.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Oh never, God, love you, what am I talking about?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So it's never hyperbole with Joe Biden. It's always a fact.
I'm under saying, that's high, that's.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Deadly earnest Jack, look fat.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
The look. So two things I got off of that.
Number One, he was getting shouty, which that that is
sort of in that age demographic.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
But the do you notice the hiss Yes.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And I always point this out all these interviews that
he does. There's a and there's a term for it.
I forget what it's called. But he speaks so softly
that you have to the engineers have to turn the
mic volumes right all the way to the top. And
that's why you get that static sound. That's room noise,
(08:16):
that's airflow. Yes, like he's sitting in a room with
so he's got a little lava leer mic right up
next to his voice box, and you still hear that.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Sh yeah, right, room noise exactly right.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
And that's why it's because his voice is that weak
and he's and that's him at a microphone at a
podium in a hall designed for this very kind of
a thing.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Okay, but he got a better quality of deportations.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
That's right. He deported the right people.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
The right We got the right people to deport.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Trump's getting all the wrong people to deport and that
that's just not gonna.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
That's the difference.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I thought.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
He also said that he was he was getting rid
of gaze. Is that what he said?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I don't know. Can you rerack the rerack the old
man there?
Speaker 5 (08:59):
And my friends, we need to face the hard truths
of this administration and has been to ease all the
gains we've made.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Gains. Sorry, which they eat is game. They should have
put the game of the game audio.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
They get fake news. Uh, Pete Calendar, It's always a
pleasure to spend time with you, my friend, and I
appreciate you being in here with us. I gotta make
make an attempt to try to figure out exactly the
quality of the deportees.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
So deportees deportees, that's my new term.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Pete Calenar, enjoyed the weekend you two about it.
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