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October 10, 2025 • 9 mins

Tune in here to this Friday edition of the Brett Winterble Show.

Brett and Pete Kaliner waste no time getting into the real conversations—starting with how talk radio operates under constant pressure from anonymous texts, organized trolls, and agenda-driven callers. They expose how digital feedback loops are manipulated, how trolls are tracked and blocked, and why most people have no idea how the system really works behind the scenes.

Then the tone sharpens as they shift to Antifa—discussing how labeling, funding, and foreign influence intersect. Brett draws a clear parallel between political cover and foreign mediation, warning about the consequences of legitimizing extremist groups. They call out activists operating across borders, including one figure allegedly organizing support from overseas after fleeing the country.

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
News Talk eleven nine three WBT Grett Witterbulls Show. This
is the hangover. What did we call the first part
of this game the pregame? We pregamed and now we're
hanging over. Be careful, let's not go over the cliff.
We we want to make sure that that's not going
to be the case. I want to introduce the audience
to a really tremendous person, and that is Pete Callener

(00:37):
joining us here on this day. How are you.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm good. You may remember me from like seven minutes ago,
seven minutes ago when I was on the air right
here on WBT.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
You know what's so interesting? Did you hear this story
about the way moo.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
And the I did this story?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh talking, I'm sorry, this is uh look, this is
my favorite time of the week. I mean because yeah, no,
mostly because we just talk and kick. We kicked down
the doors of knowledge, which I think is well worth it.
One of these days next week, when we do this
next week, we should be on the text line together
at the same time and see if people are, you know,

(01:14):
digging it or hating it.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
But you know, I have the text line open usually,
but I don't look at it during this segment.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Does it freak you out? Does it freak you out
to read it? Do you like want to get back
in there and start pounding back when people say things
to you?

Speaker 2 (01:27):
No? No, no, But I've been on a I've been
on a pretty strict regimen, yes, for a while now Facebook, Twitter,
where I see a lot of stuff that people send
me and I don't respond. I ignore them, and that

(01:47):
is intentional. So that's why if you ever do tweet
at me and and I put a little heart on
that bad boy, that's a big deal, because like I'm
usually like especially people like coming at me or whatever.
I see a lot of the stuff, right, But I realized,
like my time is worth more now. Yes, and back
in the day when I use when Twitter was Twitter, yeah,

(02:09):
I would engage a lot more. Yeah, but you know
that was those days are long gone. That's you know,
two thousand and nine, twenty ten. Wow, back then, Oh yeah,
I was an early adopter. That's really good the Twitter machine.
So no, I like, I will go in during the
breaks and I will look at the text line brought
to you by Liberty Buick GMC. Here you go, and

(02:29):
uh so the uh At some point I think they're
going to tell me to stop doing No, it's great.
I think it's great. I think it's good branding. But anyway, yeah,
so I only looked during the commercial breaks, and then
I see there's things, you know that it tells you
how many new texts have come in, Yes, and it's like,
you know, twenty five texts correct, And it's like, Okay,
I can't read all of these because I don't want
the show to just be me reading text because that's

(02:52):
like me reading the comments section of a Facebook post
to people. And I don't want to do that. So
I try to find that's I try to find the
best text.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Sometimes I'll go back a couple of hours and answer other.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Texts, answer other people's shows.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, you know, just I'll say, I'll say, listen.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Hey, good question for Vince. That was a really good
question you asked. VINCEC You could do that.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
I mean, that's look, it's it's you know, it gives
us the opportunity to to kind of drill down.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I do see like there are some people who will
send a text, yeah, asking questions of Bo and Beth
in the morning during my show. Well, and they're they're
asking Bo and beth a questions as if they're sending
it to them in real time, Well.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
The podcast, they're just they're listening to the podcast, probably
at lunch.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
That might be the case, and they're like, hey, I
got a question for you, right, that might be the case.
So just the heads up for people who are like texting,
I try to give some tips on this because they
don't know, Like, if you're on the other side of this,
you don't know what this looks like on our end. True,
And so what we are seeing is basically you ever
see the documentary the Matrix of course, right, that's what
it looks like.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's just this stream of stuff and and and so
if you're sending me, like I ask, if you're going
to write, put it all in a single text, because
if you start, if you start sending me a sentence
or three words, three words, four words, three and you
keep peppering the text line, it just bounces everything away. Yeah,

(04:19):
and then I can't I can't make sense of it
because other people text in and now their text is
right between two of your sentences. I can't. And so
I don't know what you're saying, So I just ignore it.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
I have. I have some techniques, but I'm not gonna
I'm not going to disclose my techniques over the air
because they're very effective. With the techniques I.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Use blocking, No, I do not, Oh i've blocked people
on you.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I do not block people.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Oh I do do I block people. I don't think
I've blocked. I don't really block people.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I answer them.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I will block for you. Like an offensive lineman.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
I will answer them. I will answer them with like
one word replies, Oh that's nice. That may or may
not be germane to the conversation. Okay, I might be like, yes,
I like pie. Like I'll do yes. Like you you're
you're a loud mouth and you stink yes, and then
that that I think satisfies the itch.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, yeah, I will name Like for some of the trolls,
I name them.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Do you name them?

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, if you go in and look at the system,
you'll see some of them names. Just don't do don't
give up.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
No.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Why I want people know because this way I know
this why I always ask people like if they're anonymous,
I don't know what to call you when you're text
or when you text in I'm reading your text on air.
I don't know what to so I say anonymous seven
O four or whatever, four number or eight oh three
number whatever, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
That's a good mood move, and so I like that, right.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
So if I know somebody is constantly trolling and they're
refusing to give their name because they're just like an
internet tough guy, well then I will name you something
and then block you and then anyway. Oh yeah, yeah, yes,
So like during the break, you should go in and
look at the block and I don't see like trolley
mactroll face, evil lefty evil.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Oh, evil left He's coming at me. He's coming me
A couple of times. I've gotten evil left yt.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, that's why they're called that.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Guess what. Yeah, yeah, Okay, this will only make sense
to you and a small coterie of people that are.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Listening to the program. Coterie is a word that is
not used enough anymore.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
I'm resurrecting it.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Good.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Okay, So here I finally figured out the guy that
calls mister snark wants to be famous. Snark. Guy that
calls your show calls my show.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
That's the one with the YouTube channel. Yeah, I find
is he texting too?

Speaker 1 (06:31):
He's not texting Okay, he's not texting. But I had
the occasion with a with a brushing of of of
activity that I was able to figure out exactly who
it is now. And I know exactly who it.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Is now very it's nobody that we know. But because
you you brought him with you, right, isn't he he's
kind of following you? He did, and I'm just like here,
I'm getting I'm much in the blast zone.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
He did. Yeah, but that's okay because I think we've
tamed him. Well, now we'll see, Well, he'll probably call
him like a half an hour.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
For people who aren't aware, there's a fellow who calls
in and you know who. You know who it is.
He gives different names, but you know who it is
because there's a delay. I picked it up the first
time he ever called it. I was like sitting here.
I was like, there's a delay. I was like, this
guy's recording, and so he's recording and he then puts
it up on what RUSH would call a seminar caller. Yes,

(07:23):
and he records this stuff and he puts it up
on his YouTube channel. And when I sussed him out
the first time I ever talked to him, I sussed
him out, and I was like, I remember, I will promote.
I was like, let me on your show. I'll go
on your show. Just tell me like who are you
and I'll be on your show. And he wouldn't do
it and all of this and and so it seems
to me like that's a uh that might be problematic.

(07:45):
And I did. I did advise him, like you're rebroadcasting
copyrighted material, like you may be in violation of the law.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
This may be him calling us.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, it probably is. So like so, and I'm looking
out for the guy because you know me, I'm a giver.
You're a giver.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
I'm a give Okay, I got to ask you one
final question, okay, and I need like a one minute answer.
If I can do this, Okay, you're ready for this,
I can do it. Well, Okay, here we go. Antifa
or antifa, however you want to protounce the idea? So Antifa.
So let's say that we wanted to suddenly go make
peace like we did with Hamas, Let's go make peace
with Antifa. Who do we reach out to.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
The Democrat Party? They're the Qatar and that analogy? Wow? Really? Absolutely?
Thank you? Yeah, yeah, I'm just super excited that the uh,
the way they laid this out, Yes, sir, So first
they designate them as a terrorist organization. Yes, right, but
it's like, but there's actually no there was no like
real classification for that in the law, right, there was

(08:47):
a foreign Terrorist organ and FTO ftos. So by doing
that first, then you get the agitation. Everybody's all, oh
my gosh, what's happening all this, and then you get
money coming in, yes, and then you move to the
FTO designation, which Trump said the other very good. Now
it's like, oh, now you've got funding that was pouring

(09:09):
in after the.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Initial after the initial one, and.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Now you've got sourcing for your funds. And that's why
that Jackwagon Bray, yeah, who wrote the book an Now
he's upset.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Now he's upset because people are coming after it.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
And he fled to Spain. No, he fled to Spain
because he knows that like if he's gonna because he's
been organizing the funding from international sources, Sure, here we go.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
M can't wait to find.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Out what that looks like. Man, I'm super excited by
the way. You're in Spain.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
You're not in the United States. You're in Spain, International
International INTERNACIA. Now indeed, all right, great stuff. I appreciate you, man.
I'm gonna go in and see if anybody's hating on us,
all right. On the text line, the text line, the
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