November 21, 2025 • 10 mins
Tune in here to this Friday's edition of the Brett Winterble Show!
Brett kicks off the program with Pete Kaliner for this edition of the Hangover as they discuss the ongoing “Mondami Watch” and the high-stakes meeting between New York Mayor-elect Zoron Mondami and President Trump. Brett and Pete break down whether Mondami will earn a moment in the Oval Office or be relegated to a brief appearance in the press room, arguing that he hasn’t yet proven he deserves more.
The conversation shifts to Mondami’s proposal for free buses and his inability to explain how he’ll fund a $700 million shortfall. Pete likens the promise to a school election fantasy—great slogans, no plan. They explore the safety concerns of free transit, poking fun at the chaos they expect. Brett then asks whether Trump will strike early or wait for Mondami to slip. Pete warns that socialism requires smooth operators, and Mondami fits the mold
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Who's Talk eleven ten nine three WBT. It's the uh
what do we call this hangover? The hangover? I know,
I I just want to always just like to say
it because it feels really good to say it's the hangover.
I'm doing that for effect, because you know, it's like
we're hungover? Right? Is it? What are we doing?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Well? That was what And that's why I named the
segment with you pregame.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
It's so good, it is so can I just tell
you there are lots of people who love this, these
two segments. I know they live for this.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Pete by the way, I'm not going to be here
next front.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Oh, okay, who's your standard?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Nick?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Nick Nicks?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
He'll be here Friday, right, he'll be there.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
He'll be there Friday. I'm gonna make them. I'm gonna
make him be here on Friday. How about that? We
are we are right now on Mundamie Watch? Is that?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
What was?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yes? So we've got Mundamie Watch twenty twenty five. I
want it.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Has he already been meeting?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
They're behind the closed doors, I believe right now is yes,
that's what it looks.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
So if they come out or if we see Mom
Donnie's mug up there. It'll be that they've wrapped.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Up right, and you might have he's go ahead.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Do you think he gets the oval office two chair shot?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I think no. I think they're putting him out in
the press, like I think you're not going to see that.
I think you're going to see him just come out
with the president going, this is Mundami. What do you
want to ask him? You know something?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
So out outside in the driveway kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Or in the in the press the presence.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Oh, come out in the press briefing, in the.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Press briefing room. I think that's what he's deserving of.
Right now, he's not he's not the mayor yet, right,
he's the mayor elect elect. So I mean that's that's
what we got. I want you to help me translate
something this for me. Okay, this is going to be
cut fifty one. Yeah, he's going to get it for us.
So it's gonna be cut. Is this in?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I only speak a little bit of Spanish, No.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
This is nothing Spanish. Okay, this is mundanmi oh, this
is Mondai.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I do speak kami.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Okay, you're very good, you're gonna be You're you're my
kind of guy. All right, So here is Mandami had
a plan for those free buses. I heard fifty one listen.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Ask some free buses. Isn't your meeting with the governor.
I've heard you talk about many times that you don't
want to take money away from the MTA, you want
to put money back in. It's something that she agrees with, right,
we don't want to take away money from the MTA.
How are you getting that money the seven hundred millions
to make the buses free into the MCA if she's
not for raising taxes, you.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Know, I think that the two clearest ways to raise
that money is through the raising of the state's corporate
tax to matchss.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
At New Jersey.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I think that a lot of this is still a
case to be made, whether it's the corporate tax or
that it's the personal income tax on those who make
more than a million dollars.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
A year or more.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I think that these are the clearest ways. I've also
said that if there are other ways to raise this funding,
the most important fact is that we fund it, not
the question of how we do it, but that we
do it.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Same Come on, you know, you've heard a lot of
gibberish from people. Tell me what you what does this mean?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
We have to we have to pass the bill to
find out what's in it. No, in this case, though,
it's not. It's it's just like a bill, as like
you would get at the end of the meal.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
It's got that amount of power.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
It's the same thing, right, It's the same logic. It's
I have no idea what I'm doing, which I'm as
shocked to discover that as anyone that a guy who
has never held a job in his life, yes, doesn't
understand how to actually do anything or manage anything. So yeah,
it's not really surprising that he's like, I have this
(03:42):
seven hundred million dollar gap to fund, Yes, but it's
not important where I find the money, right. I think
that's actually the first thing. That's the first thing you
need to do is to find out how to fund it.
Otherwise it's just like you promised in your middle school
or high school student government vice president campaign, where he
(04:06):
promised fresh, locally sourced, fresh squeezed juice in the cafeteria juice.
That was literally his campaign. And when I heard that,
I was like, dude, this is the joke I make
about Bush League politicians when they make promises of chocolate
milk and all the water fountains. Right, that's the school
(04:27):
government or the student body president campaign chocolate milk in
the water fountains. That was like, yay, vote for him.
It's and that's never gonna happen. Such a stupid idea.
You're a New Yorker, I was, I was a Long Island.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Okay, but it's still it's all. It's all that it
comes out in the wash a little bit here. So
what kind of people are going to ride a free bus? Like?
What are we are? We're looking at? I mean, and
I'm sorry to have to say it this way. You're
gonna have people getting lit on fire, all kinds of stuff,
(05:01):
and it's just going to be a free for all,
which is incredibly dangerous.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yes, correct, And no one's gonna then want to I
think that guy Snake from the documentary Escape from New York. Yes,
I think he's gonna he'll probably ride the Bernie Gets Bernie.
Is he still alive?
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Well?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Has he probably would ride?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
He has ferrets And I don't think he's still running
the running the ride.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
If it's free for all? Yeah, does that mean that
I can get on the buses and conceal carry.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You better not not allowed to have any guns unless
you're a registered offender. Then they just they just.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Then you're allowed to have if you're probably right, if
you're a prohibited yea possession prohibited owner, then you can
conceal carry.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Some guy just of course sentenced to four years in prison, yes,
for shooting his mugger.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yes, but his mugger, not his mother.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
His muger. Yeah. Yeah, and he got sentenced to four
years in prison.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Somebody's got to do the time, right.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's not gonna be the criminal.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
He was.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
He's a victim the criminals.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Event Where did we fail him? You know what, the schools,
the schools, No, our society we failed him.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, that's the truth. Now, with Mandami coming in with Trump,
do you think, and you've seen Trump for a whole
long time, and I've seen him for a whole long time,
do you think Trump goes in for the kill immediately
or do you think he lets this guy kind of
sit in the in the beautiful spotlight and then suddenly
here comes here comes the boom.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
If Mam Donnie says something stupid, yeah, then then Trump
guts him. Does this look like but I don't think.
I don't think Mamdannie. For all of my criticisms of him,
he is he is a smooth operator. Yeah, he is.
And that's how that's what you have to be in
order to smuggle in socialism. You have to be, yeah,
(07:01):
because you know, generally, you know, people don't like the
authoritarianism that has to come excuse with those policies.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
That word what does that mean? What do you mean?
Are you implying tyranny? Are you implying authoritarianism?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I am? Or are you explicitly I'm implying it, and
I'm explicitly saying it. Because socialism doesn't work because it
goes against human nature, right, and same for you know, communism.
Socialism is just a step on the road to communism,
and and it never works because it is fundamentally at
odds with human nature. And so you then have to
(07:36):
try to force people into following your plan.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
That's why in all of the you know, the great
socialist and communist experiments, lots of never been tried, really pure,
they just need more your communism never been tried. That's
why they always have these plans to you know, wipe
out poverty or the great Leap forward and all.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
The stuff, or kill the people.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Well, that's just you have to do that. That's never
explicitly the plan because once again, people generally wouldn't they
wouldn't take to the streets in support of a plan
that would murder them. Right, So you promise them a
bunch of stuff, and then when you get power, then
the worst of the worst, the psychopaths are you know,
they take control and then they use authoritarian tactics against
(08:20):
their own people first, and that's that's usually what happens.
But you know, fortunately for New Yorkers, there is the
rest of the country that they can flee to.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Excuse me, wait, hold on, we don't need any of
that going on here, Pete.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I didn't say here, I said other places in the country,
such as Jersey. Go to New Jersey, or go up
into the northeast.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
How about Baltimore. Yeah, Baltimore is fine, beautiful place to
get a new bridge. Yeah that right, Yeah, it's going
to be right on time. I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
No, it's did you see the prices on that thing? Yeah,
what a surprise.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Why don't they just make a tunnel that way? It
never happens again.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Or yeah, wait, we could get the guys who did
the big dig to Boston to do this new tunnel
across the yea that was.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Let me tell you something. That was that it'll be.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Like one hundred years before the tunnel gets built.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Absolutely for the next.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
For America's three hundred and fiftieth birthday, they could open,
they could cut the ribbon.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Good on the tunnel, and they could drop tea into
the water.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, ironic.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for
it's a pleasure to be with you. You're gonna be
are you you're departing.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I'm giving the thanks all next week, well, I mean
I took the week off because I don't take vacation
during the year, and then I end up well, but
I end up with like one hundred hours of vacation
time to take, I know, and then it's like oh yeah,
and then I have to like pick days to and
I don't want to go because it's like, how do
you how do you drop out of this news cycle?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
You can't do it.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I don't want to drop out of it.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
And you got and then you got to ramp up
and I might just call you up next week and
just be like, hey, Pete, what are you thinking about?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Thanks for being here man, Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Happy Thanksgiving to you as well. All right, all right,
enjoy
Who's Talk eleven ten nine three WBT. It's the uh
what do we call this hangover? The hangover? I know,
I I just want to always just like to say
it because it feels really good to say it's the hangover.
I'm doing that for effect, because you know, it's like
we're hungover? Right? Is it? What are we doing?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Well? That was what And that's why I named the
segment with you pregame.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
It's so good, it is so can I just tell
you there are lots of people who love this, these
two segments. I know they live for this.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Pete by the way, I'm not going to be here
next front.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Oh, okay, who's your standard?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Nick?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Nick Nicks?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
He'll be here Friday, right, he'll be there.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
He'll be there Friday. I'm gonna make them. I'm gonna
make him be here on Friday. How about that? We
are we are right now on Mundamie Watch? Is that?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
What was?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yes? So we've got Mundamie Watch twenty twenty five. I
want it.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Has he already been meeting?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
They're behind the closed doors, I believe right now is yes,
that's what it looks.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
So if they come out or if we see Mom
Donnie's mug up there. It'll be that they've wrapped.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Up right, and you might have he's go ahead.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Do you think he gets the oval office two chair shot?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I think no. I think they're putting him out in
the press, like I think you're not going to see that.
I think you're going to see him just come out
with the president going, this is Mundami. What do you
want to ask him? You know something?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
So out outside in the driveway kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Or in the in the press the presence.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Oh, come out in the press briefing, in the.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Press briefing room. I think that's what he's deserving of.
Right now, he's not he's not the mayor yet, right,
he's the mayor elect elect. So I mean that's that's
what we got. I want you to help me translate
something this for me. Okay, this is going to be
cut fifty one. Yeah, he's going to get it for us.
So it's gonna be cut. Is this in?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I only speak a little bit of Spanish, No.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
This is nothing Spanish. Okay, this is mundanmi oh, this
is Mondai.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I do speak kami.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Okay, you're very good, you're gonna be You're you're my
kind of guy. All right, So here is Mandami had
a plan for those free buses. I heard fifty one listen.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Ask some free buses. Isn't your meeting with the governor.
I've heard you talk about many times that you don't
want to take money away from the MTA, you want
to put money back in. It's something that she agrees with, right,
we don't want to take away money from the MTA.
How are you getting that money the seven hundred millions
to make the buses free into the MCA if she's
not for raising taxes, you.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Know, I think that the two clearest ways to raise
that money is through the raising of the state's corporate
tax to matchss.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
At New Jersey.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I think that a lot of this is still a
case to be made, whether it's the corporate tax or
that it's the personal income tax on those who make
more than a million dollars.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
A year or more.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I think that these are the clearest ways. I've also
said that if there are other ways to raise this funding,
the most important fact is that we fund it, not
the question of how we do it, but that we
do it.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Same Come on, you know, you've heard a lot of
gibberish from people. Tell me what you what does this mean?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
We have to we have to pass the bill to
find out what's in it. No, in this case, though,
it's not. It's it's just like a bill, as like
you would get at the end of the meal.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
It's got that amount of power.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
It's the same thing, right, It's the same logic. It's
I have no idea what I'm doing, which I'm as
shocked to discover that as anyone that a guy who
has never held a job in his life, yes, doesn't
understand how to actually do anything or manage anything. So yeah,
it's not really surprising that he's like, I have this
(03:42):
seven hundred million dollar gap to fund, Yes, but it's
not important where I find the money, right. I think
that's actually the first thing. That's the first thing you
need to do is to find out how to fund it.
Otherwise it's just like you promised in your middle school
or high school student government vice president campaign, where he
(04:06):
promised fresh, locally sourced, fresh squeezed juice in the cafeteria juice.
That was literally his campaign. And when I heard that,
I was like, dude, this is the joke I make
about Bush League politicians when they make promises of chocolate
milk and all the water fountains. Right, that's the school
(04:27):
government or the student body president campaign chocolate milk in
the water fountains. That was like, yay, vote for him.
It's and that's never gonna happen. Such a stupid idea.
You're a New Yorker, I was, I was a Long Island.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Okay, but it's still it's all. It's all that it
comes out in the wash a little bit here. So
what kind of people are going to ride a free bus? Like?
What are we are? We're looking at? I mean, and
I'm sorry to have to say it this way. You're
gonna have people getting lit on fire, all kinds of stuff,
(05:01):
and it's just going to be a free for all,
which is incredibly dangerous.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yes, correct, And no one's gonna then want to I
think that guy Snake from the documentary Escape from New York. Yes,
I think he's gonna he'll probably ride the Bernie Gets Bernie.
Is he still alive?
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Well?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Has he probably would ride?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
He has ferrets And I don't think he's still running
the running the ride.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
If it's free for all? Yeah, does that mean that
I can get on the buses and conceal carry.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You better not not allowed to have any guns unless
you're a registered offender. Then they just they just.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Then you're allowed to have if you're probably right, if
you're a prohibited yea possession prohibited owner, then you can
conceal carry.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Some guy just of course sentenced to four years in prison, yes,
for shooting his mugger.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yes, but his mugger, not his mother.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
His muger. Yeah. Yeah, and he got sentenced to four
years in prison.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Somebody's got to do the time, right.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's not gonna be the criminal.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
He was.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
He's a victim the criminals.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Event Where did we fail him? You know what, the schools,
the schools, No, our society we failed him.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, that's the truth. Now, with Mandami coming in with Trump,
do you think, and you've seen Trump for a whole
long time, and I've seen him for a whole long time,
do you think Trump goes in for the kill immediately
or do you think he lets this guy kind of
sit in the in the beautiful spotlight and then suddenly
here comes here comes the boom.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
If Mam Donnie says something stupid, yeah, then then Trump
guts him. Does this look like but I don't think.
I don't think Mamdannie. For all of my criticisms of him,
he is he is a smooth operator. Yeah, he is.
And that's how that's what you have to be in
order to smuggle in socialism. You have to be, yeah,
(07:01):
because you know, generally, you know, people don't like the
authoritarianism that has to come excuse with those policies.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
That word what does that mean? What do you mean?
Are you implying tyranny? Are you implying authoritarianism?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I am? Or are you explicitly I'm implying it, and
I'm explicitly saying it. Because socialism doesn't work because it
goes against human nature, right, and same for you know, communism.
Socialism is just a step on the road to communism,
and and it never works because it is fundamentally at
odds with human nature. And so you then have to
(07:36):
try to force people into following your plan.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
That's why in all of the you know, the great
socialist and communist experiments, lots of never been tried, really pure,
they just need more your communism never been tried. That's
why they always have these plans to you know, wipe
out poverty or the great Leap forward and all.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
The stuff, or kill the people.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Well, that's just you have to do that. That's never
explicitly the plan because once again, people generally wouldn't they
wouldn't take to the streets in support of a plan
that would murder them. Right, So you promise them a
bunch of stuff, and then when you get power, then
the worst of the worst, the psychopaths are you know,
they take control and then they use authoritarian tactics against
(08:20):
their own people first, and that's that's usually what happens.
But you know, fortunately for New Yorkers, there is the
rest of the country that they can flee to.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Excuse me, wait, hold on, we don't need any of
that going on here, Pete.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I didn't say here, I said other places in the country,
such as Jersey. Go to New Jersey, or go up
into the northeast.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
How about Baltimore. Yeah, Baltimore is fine, beautiful place to
get a new bridge. Yeah that right, Yeah, it's going
to be right on time. I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
No, it's did you see the prices on that thing? Yeah,
what a surprise.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Why don't they just make a tunnel that way? It
never happens again.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Or yeah, wait, we could get the guys who did
the big dig to Boston to do this new tunnel
across the yea that was.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Let me tell you something. That was that it'll be.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Like one hundred years before the tunnel gets built.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Absolutely for the next.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
For America's three hundred and fiftieth birthday, they could open,
they could cut the ribbon.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Good on the tunnel, and they could drop tea into
the water.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, ironic.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for
it's a pleasure to be with you. You're gonna be
are you you're departing.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I'm giving the thanks all next week, well, I mean
I took the week off because I don't take vacation
during the year, and then I end up well, but
I end up with like one hundred hours of vacation
time to take, I know, and then it's like oh yeah,
and then I have to like pick days to and
I don't want to go because it's like, how do
you how do you drop out of this news cycle?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
You can't do it.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I don't want to drop out of it.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
And you got and then you got to ramp up
and I might just call you up next week and
just be like, hey, Pete, what are you thinking about?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Thanks for being here man, Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Happy Thanksgiving to you as well. All right, all right,
enjoy
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