Trump, Kimmel, Bolick, & More On The Brett Winterble Show

Tune in here to this Thursday's edition of the Brett Winterble Show! 

Brett kicks off the program by talking about President Donald Trump’s recent visit to England and the indefinite suspension of late-night host Jimmy Kimmel. He discusses Trump’s meetings with King Charles and other British leaders, highlighting the media attention and investment discussions that followed. Brett argues that while the trip was filled with pomp and ceremony, its political impact was minimal. He quickly pivots to the controversy surrounding Kimmel, claiming the suspension was a result of poor ratings and a false, slanderous statement about Charlie Kirk’s death. Brett criticizes Kimmel for accusing a right-wing individual of the killing—something Brett says is factually untrue. He also pushes back on Senator Chuck Schumer’s fiery defense of Kimmel’s free speech, pointing out that networks have the right to remove hosts who underperform or cross ethical lines. Brett ends by teasing a powerful audio clip related to Charlie Kirk that he believes Kimmel has likely ignored.

We're joined by Dave Bolick, North Carolina State Auditor, to talk about financial accountability and transparency in government spending. In his discussion with Brett Winterble, Bolick outlines the challenges facing small municipalities across North Carolina, particularly in areas with fewer than 3,000 residents, where a lack of financial expertise puts public funds at risk. He contrasts these issues with problems in larger cities like Charlotte, pointing to the city's controversial $305,000 settlement with the former police chief—funds he says were kept hidden from the public until pressured by his office. Bolick firmly states that taxpayers have a right to know how every penny of public money is spent, regardless of the political optics. He also criticizes the lack of training for financial professionals handling billions in disaster recovery funds. Concerned citizens are encouraged to contact his office or submit tips at auditor.nc.gov for further action.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:17):
News Talk eleven ten ninety nine to three a WBT.
It is the Brett Witterbulls Show. It is great to
be with you. Our telephone number. You are welcome to
be a part of the conversation sevenho four five seven
zero eleven ten seven zero four five seven zero eleven ten.
And you can use that phone number as you know,
on the air, or you can use it at the

(00:38):
WBT text line driven by Liberty Buick GMC. Well, let's
think about what we just saw in this last twenty
four hours. In the last twenty four hours, we saw
the President of the United States make his way over
to England, spending time with the King Charles and the

(01:04):
family and all that sort of stuff. He developed a
big storyline as it related to the money that is
now coming into the coffers, the investments that are happening.
He gave a little bit of a bump to Keir Starmer,
a man who I just I have nothing but feeling

(01:26):
like he's just a pathetic character in that stage of
the game. We watched earlier today at Checkers, and then
we watched earlier today the press availability by the President
and they made their way back home. They're making their
way back home to the United States, and all the

(01:46):
pomp and circumstance and all the stuff that you would
expect that was happening in the interim period. In the
interim period, we had the suspension, the indefinite suspension of
mister Kimmel. Admittedly, I have watched maybe ten minutes of

(02:08):
that program. In the entirety of my life, it's not
my kind of show. I don't stay up late watching
yuck yuck shows or anything like that. And the fact
of the matter is, let's be honest. This is a
business decision that was made by a number of people
who felt that this was not the best possible direction

(02:28):
to go. And let's be honest and let's be straight up.
Jimmy Kimmel slandered slandered Charlie Kirk by saying that the
guy that killed Charlie Kirk was a right winger, which

(02:55):
makes no sense of any kind. It's factually incorrect. And
if anybody went behind a microphone and said that, they
would be misleading, they would be lying, they would be
doing all of that. And the fact of the matter is,
you can punch at anybody you want, But the idea

(03:15):
of taking a cheap shot at Charlie Kirk. I think
was reprehensible, reprehensible, absolutely reprehensible. And Chuck Schumer is very upset.
This is cut number eight. Chuck Schumer is very angry,

(03:36):
very furious, very very very give me a give me,
chuckch if this is cut number eight, Okay, we'll scratch that.
This is an insane sort of a thing that people
are not getting. There is tension in the air, there

(03:58):
is tension in the country. There are people who want
this country to implode. I don't think it will, because
I think we are endowed by God in many ways.
But you have all the sort of the gutter snipes
out there right, the people who are trying to set
it off and push it this way, push it that way,

(04:21):
all that sort of stuff. Here is Chuck Schumer. My god,
I wish he had been as angry about what he
should have been angry about relative to the slender of Kimmel. Okay,
cut number eight.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Please.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
It is outrageous. It's a page right out of She's playbook.
This is just despicable, disgusting and against democratic values. Trump
and his allies seem to want to shut down speech
that they don't like.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
To hear.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
That is not what democracies do. That is what autocracies do.
And it doesn't matter whether you agree with Kimmel or not.
He has the right to free and so it is
just outrageous. It is indicative of autocracy, and I am
just outraged by it. Again, this is what dictators do.
This is what she would do, This is what Putin

(05:12):
would do. We are not that country.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
What would Soros do, Chuck? What would Soros do? What
would Mundami do? What would anybody else do? So, Chuck
Schumer's is just absolutely angry. And what does he say?
He says, fire this back up again for me. He
says that he's he is being unfairly treated in this way.

(05:39):
Go ahead and go for it.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
It is outrageous. It's a page right out of She's playbook.
This is just despicable, disgusting and against democratic values. Such
as Trump and his allies seem to want to shut
down speech that they don't like to hear. That is
not what democracies do. That is what autocracies do. And
it doesn't matter whether you agree with Kimmel or not.

(06:03):
He has the right to free speech.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Wait a minute, hold on, hold on free speech. Free speech.
I have the right to free speech, but there's a
million things that I can't talk about on the air
in different sorts of ways. Same thing at any other company.
You can have all the free speech and you want
to do. But the reality is, if you're violating the contract.
If you're violating and I don't mean the actual legal contract,

(06:27):
I'm talking about it, if if you're not delivering the
goods in the way you're supposed to, in other words,
entertaining and things like that, you can get bounced in
a minute. There are plenty of exigence circumstances that could
cause this guy to lose his job. You know, moral turpitude,
and you know what moral turpitude is. You know what

(06:49):
if you get a drunk driving conviction, or you killed somebody,
or you hit somebody, or you hurt somebody or whatever
it is that companies can bounce you for like all
sorts of things, all sorts of things. The whole reason
why this is being made into a huge thing with
Jimmy Kimmel is that he had bad ratings. He had

(07:10):
lower ratings than what you saw with the guy from
South Carolina. You also saw you also saw that he
doubled down across the weekend and came out with a
particularly putred inflammatory attack by saying that the murderer of

(07:33):
Charlie Kirk was actually one of his, which makes no
logical sense at all. And I do think, and I
do think, I gotta be honest with you. I do
think you're gonna see a situation where ABC is probably
not going to release him from the contract. And I

(07:53):
don't know how many years he's got left on it,
but they own his contract. They can stop him from
doing another show or anything like that. They can make
him sit back for the next two years, three years,
whatever his contract is. That's that's the difficulty. And so
if he wants to try to get out of it,
I think he's I think he's got a very tough climb,

(08:13):
especially if he's contractually held. You don't have to put
him on the air. You could pay him as long
as they're paying him, right, That's what That's what could happen.
But I want to go back to the Charlie Kirk
thing in just a moment because I want you to
hear something that I'm sure Jimmy Kimmel never heard, and
it's one of the most heartbreaking and compelling pieces of

(08:36):
sound that I've heard. Isaac and I were listening to
it earlier News Talk eleven ten that out of nine
to three WBT, it's the Brett Water Bull Show. It's
good to be with you, great to be breaking everything
down in all these different storylines. So, when it comes

(08:59):
to the United States and speech is a sacred right, okay,
it does. It does. It does have a sort of
a sacred sort of approach when it comes to speech
in the United States. The United States treats freedom of
speech is nearly inviable, maybe enshrined in the First Amendment
of the Constitution. Congress shall make no law abridging the

(09:23):
freedom of speech or of the press, etc.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Right.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
But the question then becomes, if you are being if
you are being compensated to do a job, is that
free speech? Is that free speech? I would argue that no,
you are working at the behest of whomver you've contracted with,

(09:47):
or whoever hired you, or whatever it is. So, what
are some of the features here? Right? Content neutral protection.
The government cannot restrict speech based on its content, even
if it's offensive, unpopular, or false. So if you were
going to restrain somebody from making a speech or from
saying something. They could be standing out on the sidewalk,

(10:09):
they could be standing out in somebody's neighborhood. They could
be standing out behind a podium someplace, uh and an arena,
an event, something like that, and they could say whatever
they want. Now, there are plenty of restraints when it
comes to people who are getting paid to do things.

(10:30):
So like, for example, if if you not you, not
you literally you, but a you right au if a
you person was contracted or hired to sell a particular
brand of automobile. Okay, so you're gonna you're gonna have
automobile A. You're supposed to sell them. And let's say

(10:56):
you suddenly decide, you know what, I don't wanna I
don't want to talk about I want to talk about
car B instead, which is a totally different company, and
I want to I want to be able to have
my free speech about how much I like the company
called car B better than car A. Well, you could

(11:16):
do that all the time, but the company can fire
you for pitching a product that's not theirs that they
have hired you to do. Right, That makes easy sense.
Strict scrutiny stand any law that limits speech must pass
the highest legal threshold. Again, unless you're contracted to do something.

(11:38):
Jimmy Kimmel's contracted to do a program for ABC, and
Jimmy Kimmel has been suspended inside the parameters of ABC,
and he's continuing to collect his check. I'm sure he
makes millions and millions of dollars. He's a he's a
very very successful person. And so they can just hire

(12:02):
you and then sit you on a chair for the
next two, three, four, five weeks or forever until the
contract's up. Then you'd be you could do whatever you
want to do. I mean, that's that's a pretty that's
a pretty nice deal. You're getting paid to not work.

(12:23):
So let's like, let's talk about a robust political speech. Okay,
Like a case that came up back during the old days,
Cohen versus. California, and there was a person who wore
an f the Draft shirt in court and they said, no,

(12:46):
you cannot do that. That is that is not right,
that is offensive, it's hateful, it's all that bad stuff
like that. US versus Alvarez lying about military honors show
how far the US can go to protect expression even
when it's distasteful, yes, but are you being paid for that?
Does ABC have to create a relationship between between the

(13:13):
employed and the unemployed?

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Right?

Speaker 1 (13:17):
So all of these things are factors, right, all of
these things are factors. Now, compare what they do here
with what they can what they do over in oh
jolly old England. Okay, over in England. Oh, you don't
want any of this stuff. You don't want their rules

(13:39):
at all. You definitely want the United States rules. Speech
is weighed against other rights, especially privacy, dignity, and public order.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
What is dignity?

Speaker 1 (13:53):
How do you define the dignity or the indignity right?
Defamation laws more plaintiff friendly than the United States, easier
to sue for reputational harm, hate speech, offensive content criminalized
under laws like the Communications Act of two thousand and three,
which punishes grossly offensive online messages. So you're in your

(14:16):
house and you say a quarterback X is the worst
quarterback ever? Well, the United States, that's just called an opinion.
Over there, they can come and sue you. They can
lock you down, They can shut it down and lock
it up. That is not anything that you would want.

(14:39):
It's not anything I would want. I mean, if you
go A to B, A to b, A to B.
I mean, the American system is very nice. First Amendment constitutional.
The UK has common law and the Human Rights Act.
Oh gosh, can you imagine absolutest protection of speech versus

(15:00):
England's balancing speech with other rights. It's a reason why
we fought a war. There's a reason why we have
the Second Amendment. There's a reason why for a whole
lot of things. Hate speech the United States protected unless
inciting violence. England criminalized under statutory law. Defamation hard to

(15:25):
prove public figure standard in the United States. England easier
to prove broader protections. So that's sort of the way
this thing runs. News Talk eleven, ten ninety nine, three

(15:48):
WBT Brett Waterbow Show. AOC AOC, AOC, AOC, AOC likes
to see when people lose their jobs. She does, We've
got evidence, I've got the evidence. I've got the clip.
Once upon a time, there was a guy called Tucker

(16:09):
Carlson and he was cut loose by the Fox News Channel,
and well, AOC was very happy about that. She was
very very happy about that. Let's listen to cut number ten,
the AOC celebration of the cancelation of Tucker Carlson.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
Violent threats not just to my office but to plenty
of people across the country. I also kind of feel
like I'm waiting for the cut scene at the end
of a Marvel movie, after all the credits have rolled
and then you see like the villains like hand to
re emerge out to grip over like the end of

(16:52):
a building or something. But deeplatforming works, and it is
important and see them.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
D platforming works getting rid of somebody because you disagree
with what they said. D platforming works. Okay, all right,
I mean it's uh, it's just one of these.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Things when you just sit back there and you go, wait,
hold on a minute, hold on one second, if you
would please, you know when when when we look at
some of the stuff that goes on that's out there,
that's you know, out and about look at the end
of the day, if AOC decided she was going to

(17:41):
go into a different place, right, just a totally different place, uh,
and said you know what.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
I'm gonna go and uh, I don't know, I'm gonna
go work with underprivileged children or people who are trying to,
you know, build a better opportunity for for themselves.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Et cetera.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, you get all that kind of stuff. You just
sit back and you go, Okay, So deplatforming works, I
mean technically, I mean it, I guess it's technically it works, right,
But it's no, it's not a it's not a great
it's not a great sort of a thing here. You know,
I like, you've not ever heard me say I want

(18:21):
to take this person out of the arena. I don't
want them to be a part of the arena. Now,
people will do it to themselves all the time. They
will they will cause, they will say something and then
they will have to live with the cause that comes
as a result of that, right, And so that's that's
the differential. You could just stand on a street corner

(18:43):
and you can yell out whatever you want to yell out.
I mean you can do anything. You can say anything
you want. People will respond, people will react. But I mean,
it's it is kind of interesting, you know, just just
to kind of kind of look at all this sort
of stuff. And and when you you you know, when
you're when you're sitting back out there and you're looking

(19:03):
at at different sorts of things, you do have to
measure your words. You have to say, okay, are these
going to become fighting words? Are these going to become
something that's going to cause somebody to punch me in
the in the nose? What? What are you saying? How
are you saying it? What are the things you Your
best bet, the best most strategic bet is very easy.

(19:23):
When you are getting a little heated and things are
kind of going back and forth, just take a breath.
Understand that you're probably not going to persuade the person
who's coming at you, and you're probably not going to
respond in the same way to the other person. So

(19:44):
just make your point, move on down the line, move
on down there. It's it's always it's always that second
engagement that then kind of starts, starts to create a
difficult problem. Make your make your point, say what you
want to say, and move on down the line. Also,
also get a thesaurus, and if you want to insult somebody,

(20:08):
you could always get a thesaurus and use a word
that they may not be familiar with, and they'll go
home and look it up and then they'll be offended
when they get home. It's like a it's like a
rhetorical bomb. It's like a rhetoric bomb. You go, oh,
you know what you are you are filled with perfidity
or something like that. This is this is this is

(20:29):
how you this is how you argue. Once upon a time,
arguments were phenomenal when people had a wonderful grasp of
the uh, the the English language because you could you
could you could drop all kinds of things. And people
didn't really they they were like, oh, really, that's why
that is quite a that is quite some sort of

(20:50):
a charge you're giving me today. I don't believe that,
and that that's the best kind of stuff. Like if
you go back and look at some of the videos
where Charlie Kirk was debating people at the Cambridge Union,
people at Oxford, all of those places, and those these
are people who went right for it. I mean they

(21:11):
went right for it. They had zero things to give, okay,
and they were just coming at you boom boom boom.
That is fantastic when you get a high, big, great
argument going. Not a fight, not fist fights, not fisticuffs,
not any of that, but when you have an argument

(21:34):
that you know is sound and you deliver it and
then they tried to Rebut that's what this is all about.
It's why I say all the time, there are a
lot of people who should not be involved in the
politics of the day. They should go and vote and
then just not be part of the politics of the
day because you have to be you have to be restrained,

(21:56):
you have to be smart, you have to be polite,
but most of all, you have to know how to
take incoming as good as you're doing outgoing. And you
got to just do that. And it takes a lot
of restraint. It takes a lot of a lot of
a lot of strength because trust me, trust me, doing

(22:22):
talk radio for as long as I've been doing talk radio,
you get you get some pretty interesting folks coming down
the line. And you know what, that's what this is about.
It's about agreement, disagreement. Hopefully it's not anything worse than that.

Speaker 6 (22:40):
And that's the reason why we do these things.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
News Talk eleven ten not a ninth th WBT. Hey,
I want to give you guys a great opportunity because
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and then ten, eleven and twelve, and then it's done.
It's over. You got twenty chances to go and uh
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let's take a look at some of the folks who've
been reaching out to me giving me some thoughts, and
let's take a look at see. I love this because

(25:03):
this is coming in on the text line, and the
text line people are very smart. We have very very
smart people on the text line. I know you don't
want to necessarily believe it, but here we go, this
one coming in anonymous. I don't have a name in
this regard other than North Carolina. We all have the
constitutional right to free speech. We don't have the right
to use someone else's megaphone to speak at Jimmy Kimmel

(25:26):
was using ABC's megaphone. Who says that we don't have
brilliant people in the audience because that's exactly what you were. Well,
who else we got, oh, Robert Robert. Great to hear
Brett talking about bringing it rhetorically. He brings it every night.
That's Robert. You're a very nice Robert. I always like
when you call, and I like when you connect with us.

(25:48):
What else do we get here? Alan Alan's about it?
He says, Brett. That's what people love about Shakespeare, the
sly stay as. That's Alan from Gastonia. Honestly, when I
was in school, I didn't have an appreciation as much

(26:09):
for for Shakespeare. I have a way bigger appreciation now. Genie, Genie,
great take. If people would stop and think, all of
us who works or have worked for large companies or
corporations at some point will be asked to sign, whether

(26:30):
it's a legal contract or internal form stating the standard
code of ethics. Thanks for the great job you're doing
and keeping us informed. I appreciate it. Thumbs up. I
like that it's genius. Genie's Genie's all about the show.
This is this is important stuff, and we're getting a
lot of people who are who are weighing in on

(26:51):
this sort of stuff.

Speaker 7 (26:52):
Here.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Here's what David from Matthews. People have freedom of speech,
but as David Chadwick stated this morning, people also have
freedom of association. That's very true. And if you work
for a company, you represent that company, and if you're
saying things that are immoral, illegal or lies, maybe you

(27:17):
give the entire company the reputation of your bad behavior,
and that company absolutely has the right to fire you
on the spot. That is true. And if you have
a contract and you haven't, you know, violated moral turpitude,
but you said something dumb. Now, maybe they'll still pay

(27:37):
you off. They'll pay you out, they'll pay you off.
They'll they'll get you, they'll get you where you gotta go.
You know that sort of stuff. I cry no tears
for any of the late night hosts because they are
making incredibly phenomenal money. Phenomenal money. And I come back

(27:58):
to the argument, which is, I want the most possible
people listening to my show. I do not, ever, I
don't think I have ever said. In fact, I know
I have never said, because this is not something I
would say. If you're a Democrat, I don't want you listening. No,

(28:18):
I want you listening. If I'm If you're a democrat,
I don't want you calling No, absolutely not. I want
you calling in. I want you listening. I want you
calling in. I want you patronizing all the great companies
and great folks here in Charlotte and beyond. I want
everybody to be a part of this. This is what's cool.

(28:39):
People who don't go down that sort of road, I
don't I don't get it. I don't get it. It's
like it's like sitting in your house eating a whole
sleeve of wonderbread with nothing on it, just wonder bread.
You're just and wonderbread is wonderful. I love wonderbread. I'm
not slamming it, but you understand I'm saying, I'll take

(29:01):
back the wonder bread. Reference a loaf of bread and
you just sit there and you're just eating a loaf
of bread and you're going, ah, I love all this
bread that I'm eating. Ah, this bread that I'm eating
is ah, it so incredible. Oh my god, I love
this bread so much. And you just say, you know what,
I'm getting kind of full and I don't have any water.

(29:21):
You got to have the water, You got to have
the lubricant, you got to have all that kind of
stuff so that we get to spend our time together
this way. Life is very short. I guarantee you. I
guarantee you that that Charlie Kirk would have done anything

(29:43):
to continue his mission and especially and most importantly being
with his family. We don't know when the right ends.
We have no idea when the right ends. So we
should be people of good cheer because we're on this
side of the dirt, and we have the ability to talk, debate, laugh, cry,

(30:07):
console all of that stuff. That's what this is all about, folks.
That's what this is about. And we should be happy
that our feet hit the floor every single day because
we have a chance to make a difference. News Talk

(30:45):
eleven ten, Note nine three WVT our number two of
the Brett Winter Bowls Show. It is wonderful to be
with you. Everything is fair game. I'm going to go
into some of the back and forth from the visit
over to England. And I know that President Trump was
doing an interview with Martha McCallum which just aired in

(31:07):
this last hour, But I want to go and look
at the stuff that he was talking about there over
in England. Okay, So I want to do a little
bit of a deep dive here. If you'd like to
be a part of the conversation, you can reach us
at the WBT text line driven by Liberty Buick GMC,
or you can call seven oh four five seven zero
eleven ten. So let's start with this. The President of

(31:31):
the United States was with Keir Starmer, who is the
Prime Minister of England, and Donald Trump. He has got
deals going that are unbelievable. This is going to be
cut number eleven. Donald Trump and Keure Starmer on huge
business deals between the United States and the United Kingdom.

(31:54):
Cut eleven.

Speaker 8 (31:55):
The stock market has hit a new high, as you know,
and that's for many, many days out of our fairly
short eight months, and we seem to be hitting new highs,
and I think we're going to do much better even
as time goes by. Jobs are at a record and
most importantly, we have more than seventeen trillion dollars seventeen

(32:19):
trillion dollars, and this is in during an eight month
period being invested in the country, which is not only
a record, but if you compare seventeen trillion dollars to
the last year of the Biden administration, they did two
hundred and fifty billion dollars. They didn't do one trillion dollars.
For the four year period. We did seventeen trillion dollars

(32:44):
of investment coming in. A lot of it's because of tariffs,
and a lot of it's for a lot of other reasons,
but there's never been anything like it. It's an economic superstar.
That's what's become. I was mismanaged badly handled for a
long period of time, but it's not badly handled anymore.

(33:05):
So that's a record. And remember that's up until eight months.
We have another few months to go, and that number
is going to get significantly higher, especially if we went
a certain case that we're waiting to hear.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
That is the tariff's case that is going to be
litigated coming up here in just a bit. One thing
I would caution in terms of the litigation case that
that's coming up here. The argument that's being made by
the Trump administration is that it's a foreign policy objective

(33:41):
as opposed to utilizing just tariffs for the sake of
doing tariffs. That's the argument that's being made, and that
ability is nested with the president because the president is
the person who is the commander in chief who can
set tariffs, reduce tariffs, go back and forth. If this

(34:02):
case were to go in and they were to prevail,
this organization would prevail, you'd be pulling away the foreign
policy operation out of the President's hands. And who would
we then hand it to? Who would we hand it
to some bureaucrat I guess sitting in an office in
some place. President Trump was asked about illegal immigration. I

(34:26):
thought this was a fascinating question. This is number thirteen
talking about immigration, illegal immigration and how he views the
threat in that regard.

Speaker 9 (34:38):
Go Jack, Thank you both, Jack Elson from the Sun.
Mister President, in the nine months you've been in office,
you've been incredibly successful in all but eliminating crossings and
your southern border. Meanwhile, I llegal migration is at record
levels in Britain. The Prime Minister is trying to tackle that.
What advice would you give to the man standing next
to you on trying to stop illegal migration in Britain?
And Prime Minister, if I can just ask, the President

(35:00):
is all about drill, baby drill in terms of trying
to secure American energy and cut bills for Americans. Meanwhile,
you are turning Britains back fin aill and gas in
favor of renewable energies such as wind turbines. Why do
you think that you are right and he is wrong?

Speaker 8 (35:15):
So we had millions of people flowing in totally unchecked,
totally unvetted from the Biden administration. Twenty five million in
my opinion that would be about twenty five million. They
came from prisons, they came from mental institutions. They were
gang members, they were drug dealers. They came from the Congo,

(35:37):
they came from all parts of South America, they came
from everywhere. Think of it, Prisons from the Congo being
released into the United States. Prisons opened up in Venezuela
and many other countries pouring into the United States. And
I couldn't believe it. One of the reasons I decided
to run. I decided to run because I don't want

(36:00):
to be controversial. But you see what's happened, and you
see all the information that's come out. We won in
twenty twenty big, and I said, let's run. We got
to run because I saw what was happening. And the
worst thing that I saw was all of these people.
You know, we've already solved inflation, we solved prices. Oil
is way down, energy is way down the United States.
But what I saw happening, with millions of people pouring

(36:24):
into our country, I couldn't. I couldn't stand to watch it.
And we've done a great job. Nobody, if you've seen
the least, I appreciate your question. By the way, nobody.
Absolutely zero, and I'm not even sure that's possible. But
it's a very liberal group to come out with those statistics.
The last three months, we had zero from millions of people.
A year ago, we had zero people enter our country illegally,

(36:48):
and we do have people coming in legally through a
legal process and testing and lots of other things. I
think it's very important and we speak about it, and
I think your situation is very similar. You have people
coming in and I told the Prime Minister I would
stop it. And it doesn't matter if you call out
the military, it doesn't matter what means you use. But

(37:10):
it's going to destroy. It destroys countries from within. And
we're actually now removing a lot of the people that
came into our country. It's a very hard chore. We
were given a very very bad hand. Millions of people
came in from prisons and mental institutions. We have to
remove them, and we are removing them. We have no choice,

(37:31):
and I feel very strongly about it. Thank you very much. Jack.

Speaker 10 (37:35):
Let me just deal with the question of returns, because
this is obviously an issue we're taking incredibly seriously. We've
struck a number of deals both on cooperation with other
countries because this is a problem right across Europe to
tackle the problem of actually breaking up the gangs that
are running this trade. We have had a record number

(37:56):
of returns over thirty five thousand now since we came
in to office. That's the highest number for the best
part of ten years. We struck the returns arrangement with France,
and notwithstanding the challenges to that scheme which you've seen
in the last few days, a flight went off at
six point fifteen this morning successfully returning someone under that scheme.

(38:20):
So that is an important step forward. Obviously there's no
silver bullet here. There's a range of things that need
to be done, but given the challenges of returning people,
it is important that we're able to prove it can
be done. It was done. It was done early this morning,
so I can confirm that that flight went, It went
successfully and I'm pleased about that. Now we need to

(38:40):
ramp that up at scale, which was always envisaged under
the scheme. But it's very important that we have been
able to prove that the proof of concept of you right,
if you like, that this can be done and will
continue in that way. On the question of energy, firstly,
let me be really clear that I am absolutely determined.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
He was determined to kind of sort of skate that.
And the fact of the matter is he's only repatriating
thirty five thousand people. I mean, my gosh, come on

(39:24):
News Talk eleven, ten ninety nine three WBT speak now
in the fire, you know what I mean. That's that's
what they're talking about. All right. I want to give
you a little bit of a more dramatic approach on
these on these clips. So there is something that's going
to be coming and you're gonna know it pretty soon.
And that is what Keir Starmer wants to do. Keir

(39:48):
Starmer wants to you ready for this? You ready for this?
He MutS. To recognize Palestine. Donald Trump's not about it.
This is cutting number. Let's hear from President Trump on
Starmer and us all the stuff that went back and forth.
Cut number twelve.

Speaker 10 (40:06):
Please Mason from the BBC first, Chris.

Speaker 11 (40:09):
Thank you both, Chris Bason, BBCUS, Mister President. The UK
is expected to recognize the Palestinian state in the coming days.
As the killing in Gaza continues. It often seems that
you're the only person that Israel will listen to. What
more can you say to them to tell them to
stop and why is the UK's position on a Palestinian
state in your view is wrong? And Prime Minister, what

(40:32):
will the recognition of a Palestinian state actually achieve? Is
it not just gesture politics to appease people in your
own party?

Speaker 10 (40:41):
Thank you both, well, Chris, let me just start with that,
because we discussed this, amongst other things. We had the
best part of an hour I think upstairs earlier today,
just one to one going through a number of affairs,
world affairs in private, and we absolutely agree on the

(41:01):
need for peace and a roadmap because the situation in
Gaza is intolerable. The hostage has been held for a
very very long time and they must be freed and
we need aid to get into Gaza app speed. And
so it's within that context of a plan for peace

(41:22):
which we're working hard on, which not only do we
discuss this morning, but our two teams have been working
together on the question of recognition needs to be seen
and so it's part of that overall package which hopefully
takes us from the appalling situation we're in now to

(41:43):
the outcome of a safe and secureity Israel, which we
do not have, and a viable Palestinian state thank you.

Speaker 8 (41:50):
Well, simply, I want the hostages released now, right now,
not one tool. We'll give you three more tomorrow. And
you know, like it's been. But with a we got
all the hostages released. We got many many, they came,
many came to the Oval office, and I've heard stories
like I've never thought even possible. There was no humanity

(42:11):
know anything. I said to them, I said, was there
any warmth shown during this stay? Like they offered you
a little extra meal, they gave you a little smile,
and they said, don't worry, You'll be okay. And every
one of them said not even a little bit. Amazing
to think that during this stay, long stay. In some
cases we had a man the other day, four hundred

(42:32):
and fifty one days he was there. I always asked
that question, and was there any warmth, just a little
word of encouragement, And the answers every time absolutely not.
I'm shocked to hear it. Because in the worst cases,
there's always somebody that comes through. We have to remember
October seventh, one of the worst, most violent days in

(42:55):
the history of the world, not just there, the history
of the world. And I got to see the tapes,
and I wish I didn't see them, actually, but I
got to see them, and I want an end. I
want the hostages released, and I think it's going to
be okay. But it has been a brutal period of time.
But this has been going on for a long time.
This is not something that's over the last year, two years,

(43:20):
but this has been for decades and decades. But we
wanted to end. We have to have the hostages back immediately.
That's what the people of Israel want. They want them back,
and we want the fighting to stop. And it's going
to stop. But a lot of bad things.

Speaker 7 (43:34):
You know.

Speaker 8 (43:34):
Hamas said that they're going to put the hostages up
as bait, They're going to put the hostages in front
of any attack, and that's pretty brutal. We haven't heard
that one in a long time, so we have to
remember that. So I have a disagreement with the Prime
Minister on that score, one of our few disagreements actually.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
So there's the President Crystal Clayer, the imperative if if
Gaza is basically being leveled, where's the Palestinian state going
to be? Is it going to be is it going
to be the West Bank? Is it going to be
uh Gaza? You're going to have a very difficult time

(44:20):
without the war getting to an end. You're going to
have a very difficult time because even the Egyptians don't
want to have a relationship with Gaza like they they
they they've got that thing locked down. They they have,
you know, walls and all sorts of things like that.
I think this is it's just it's it's unbelievable. But

(44:43):
the idea that that you're going to come out, it's
it's kind of a bitter ironic, right, a little bit
ironic because once upon a time, the the British government
wres the were the people who were over the mandate.
They in Israel. Once upon a time in the Israelis

(45:03):
ran him out, and so now he's gonna side with
I guess humas News Talk eleven ten, not nine to

(45:27):
three WBT. It is the Brett winter Bull Show. Good
to be with you, seven oh four five, seven oh
eleven ten. Let me grab a call here real quick, uh, Jim,
welcome to the program.

Speaker 12 (45:36):
Jim that he was gonna go to the guests. First,
what's going on?

Speaker 1 (45:40):
I know it's you're talking to Brett. You're not talking
to anybody else. What's what do you got what's on
your mind today, sir?

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah, I just.

Speaker 12 (45:46):
Wanted to talk about this thing with Jimmy Kimmel, what
happened to him?

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 13 (45:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (45:52):
So they're told to do everything, just like everything to
basically rack up the score of derogatory uh you know,
derogatory statements and insults, anything provocative they can do against Trump,
just like you know, Stalin had people that go out
and liquidate his enemies and they report back to him.

(46:15):
That's how many people they had dispatched that day. And
once they had done what he told them to do,
then he would get rid of them, so there wasn't
any trail back to him. So that's basically what they do.
Marxists do that. And Disney wants to buy the NFL network,

(46:40):
so they're they're closing up to the Trump administration.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Okay, okay, but but but hold on a second. Okay,
something like ninety of the Kimmel monologues which are written
by other people with his consultation. I mean, I understand
how writer's room works. He he he knew what he
was doing, he knew what he was saying, and he

(47:06):
decided that he was going to take a take a
shot and not think. And he was thinking that he
was going to be bulletproof. You know, he makes like
ten twenty million dollars a year, right, he's making a
lot of money. Apparently, the reporting out of the the
out of the New York Post was this guy was
hot as as you get. He was angry. He was

(47:29):
angry because they pulled him, and so what are they
gonna do. They're gonna pay him. They're gonna pay him
out probably, and they're gonna make him sit uh And
I think I think that's probably what what's gonna end
up being the game because they have that ability, they
own the contract and he he has to then just
sit back and live through the contract.

Speaker 12 (47:50):
Yeah, they've already said that he's probably not going to
be back as the Jimmy Kill Show. But just like
any good Marxist that's loyal, they're going to try to.
They're going to promote him for you know.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
For what.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
For low ratings. I mean it's it's like what is
he well, what is he doing?

Speaker 12 (48:10):
Yeah? That's that's the bottom line. Is if I went
it painted somebody's house and they showed up and I
was doing the irrigation, they would be like, what are
you doing? That's not what I paid you for. So yeah,
bottom line is he decided to make this uh statement,
He made it up all on his own. And then
they're just like, we don't pay you for that of

(48:32):
an opinion. Pay you to be funny. You know. As
long as like your jokes are about Trump and you know,
and it's halfway funny, then we can keep you on
the air. But like you say, now we got to
put you in the you know, on the bench, put
you in the penalty box and finish the game.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah. And the thing is, the thing is, he's not
that funny. I mean the bits, the bits are basically
derivatives of each bit every every single day. I don't
watch it, okay, I I have come across it. I
understand how how they've decided that they were going to
do their thing, but man, if you've got two down
and one to go, you know, the rest of the

(49:10):
business is going to be a rough thing. I appreciate
the call. Thank you so much there, my friend, Jim.
It's always too good to talk to you. Let's welcome
to the program. A man whose work I greatly admire
and I'm happy to have him on the program. Dave
Bollock is joining us here to talk about a number
of different things, not the least of which is accountability

(49:33):
and all this stuff. North Carolina Auditor Dave Bullock, Welcome
to the program. How are you.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Hey, I'm glad to be here. I hope you're doing well,
and I hope everybody in Charlotte as well to do.

Speaker 12 (49:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Absolutely, we are fired up. There's a lot to talk about.
Your thoughts on the current state of the way money
and things are being handled in North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Well, that's a good question. It really depends on where
you are. Money across North Carolina, there are real problems
in small municipalities. So when you get when you look
at eastern North Carolina, far western North Carolina and smaller
towns that have populations and fewer than three thousand people,

(50:20):
and there are many across the state, there's a real
issue with respect to financial professionalism at the municipal level
there to handle money and to account for those dollars
and to properly budget and we're seeing that across the
state and several investigations and several audits that are submitted

(50:45):
to the Local Government Commission on which I sit with
along with the state treasurer. At your larger municipalities like Charlotte,
you have a different set of issues. You have highly
paid professionals who are work working on finances on behalf
of citizens and municipalities like the City of Charlotte, and

(51:09):
there is the problems there relate more to the size
of the city and whether those resources are being allocated
efficiently or not. And then Charlotte, in my opinion, has
some individualized issues.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
And so when you look at that, what is the
expectation here as you want to try to clean this
stuff up?

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Yeah, Well, like Charlotte, for example, I mean it's no secret.
You know, we sent a letter to the mayor when
the behind closed doors settlement with the chief of Police
was finalized and city council, mayor and city management did
not want to release that three hundred and five thousand
dollars amount of money to the public, and that is

(51:56):
a governance issue, and even in our final report on
that investigation, and clearly you know, they released the amount
of money five days after I sent the letter. We
issued that final report confirming the amount of money and
where the money came from. But the mayor was quite
frankly defiant and was well, we'll take a look. But

(52:18):
we really think we cannot tell the public about how
we spend public funds in instances that we view that
the public shouldn't know about. And I will tell you
I have a firm disagreement with the Charlotte mayor on
that issue. If a single penny of public funds is expended,

(52:40):
the taxpayers have a right to know how that money
was spent. And the reason they have a right to
know how that money was spent and how much that
money was spent is because it's not the mayor's money,
it's the taxpayer's money. So that's an individualized issue that
I've come across in Charlotte. A lot of the other

(53:02):
generalized issues are about really recruiting people to work in finance. Yeah,
I know that sounds kind of flippant, but you know,
we spent like on hurricane relief, for example. We spend
rightfully so billions of dollars training our first responders like
we should on the swift Way to rescue sure and
we spend thousands of hours doing that. We don't spend

(53:23):
a single dollar or a single hour training financial professionals
on how to account for the billions of dollars we
spend in hurricane recovered.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Wow, it's absurd. It's absolutely asurred. If people want to
get in touch with you and get more information, where
do they.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Go auditor dot NC dot gov. You can go on
our website and call our tip line, or you can
reach reach out to us by email.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
I appreciate the time you've given us and the conference,
the conversation. We're looking forward to catching up with you again.
Thanks so much for being here on the program today.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
I always glad to be with you. Mean, come and
if you're doing well.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Thanks much.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
You have panthers.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Yeah, absolutely, you got it. In that regard news Talk
eleven ten out of ninem three WBT, there's a mayor

(54:25):
in Portland, Oregon who has an idea. This is going
to be cut number nine, cut number nine. This man
has an idea. You tell me if you can spot
the flaw.

Speaker 14 (54:35):
Oh hello, I'm Keith Wilson, Portland's mayor. I'm here to
share an important update about the Immigration and Customs Enforcement
facility in southwest Portland.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Following a formal.

Speaker 14 (54:48):
Investigation into the facility's detention practices, the City of Portland
will soon issue a notice of land use violation. Federal
records show that ICE violates its land use conditions have
approval twenty five times in ten months by detaining people
for more than twelve hours or keeping them overnight. I'm

(55:09):
here to thank our community for shining the light on
these concerns, and to thank our staff for conducting a
thorough and thoughtful review. I want to be clear about
what this means. This is just one step in a
formal process. The outcome is not a foregone conclusion, and
the federal government will be given an opportunity to respond. However,

(55:32):
we must remember this review was triggered by the federal
government's breaking promises to our community regarding the detention of
human beings. Whatever comes of this process, I hope you
will join me in celebrating and supporting Portland's immigrant community
and standing in solidarity with all those who've been impacted

(55:53):
by the actions of the federal government in recent days.
I owe a special thank you the city staff for
doing this hard and important work with integrity. Thank you
Portlander's for your outreach and your advocacy. I'm committed to
keeping you updated as we move forward thoughtfully and transparently.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Okay, So the mayor there wants to have more illegal
immigration in his in his community. That's that's what he's saying.
And you know, it's it's it is interesting because immigration,
like the issue of immigration itself. Who's in charge of immigration?

(56:37):
Somebody know who's in charge of immigration? It would be
the federal government. The federal government, the FEDS are responsible
for immigration and customs enforcement. That's that's the fact. Jack. Now,

(56:58):
I'm just wondering, I'm just wondering if this this man
is as confused as he sounds. He he doesn't like
the way that the facility is being managed. Okay, it's
very possible that the federal government will find another location,

(57:18):
a suitable location for this, for this relocation, uh in
that regard, And there's also the very good possibility that
that he'll get sued in federal court for uh intervening
and stuff that he shouldn't be intervening it. I mean,
this is this is how the system works. I mean, really,
this is actually how the system works. These these mayors

(57:43):
like you know, Brandon uh, Brandon Johnson. When's the last
time he saw him on television? I'm serious, he disappeared.
He is he is? He is just not around anywhere.
What happened? Did some you make a phone call? Did
somebody call him and say, hey, listen, we're going to

(58:05):
be doing operations in Chicago, and if you would, if
you would like to book a stay at the Gray
Bar Hotel, we can make that happen. Or you could
just sit back and understand that immigration is handled at
the federal level. How do you know? How do you know?

(58:28):
Because that's how it's handled. Could you imagine the hodgepodge
and the patchwork of jurisdictions where you'd have one jurisdiction
saying we're locking them up, one other jurisdiction saying we're
not locking them up. One jurisdiction is saying let them
go out and sell fentanyl. No, we're not gonna let
them have These are federal issues. These are federal issues.

(58:52):
It reminds me of the crazy days of the nineteen eighties,
the left wing wackos in the nineteen eighties who would
come out and they'd say, we are not going to
permit a nuclear submarine to be a part of our doc. Yeah,
you don't get to see. That's not what you do.
That's exactly the wrong thing that you do, because that's

(59:16):
a federal thing. Federal f E D E R A
L federal, Oh, federal, federal. Federal News Talk eleven, ten

(59:47):
out of nine three WBT. You know when you play
this song to me, it sounds like somebody hit at
the at like the the casino. It's like it's like
one of those who welcome back. I'm Brett What News
Talk eleven ten, nine of nine three WBTU. Antifa has
been designated a terrorist organization by Donald Trump. That that

(01:00:08):
happened last night, that happened yesterday. Antifa has been designated
as a terrorist organization by President Trump. I'll get your
details on that shortly. But you have to hear this story,
because you're gonna hear this one way or another. You

(01:00:28):
have to hear this. This involves JK. I'm not gonna
say his name, JK. I'm just gonna call him JK. Okay, JK,
who's in the news. Unrepentant JK refused to apologize after
Charlie Kirk outrage and planned to double down on MAGA attacks.

(01:00:54):
The late night host said he was unwilling to apologize
for his remark works that blamed magas supporters for killing
conservative activist Charlie Kirk, and said he was going to
double down on attacking President Trump's backers before he was

(01:01:17):
yanked from the air. According to new reports, this is
the New York Post that they have they have sources everywhere.
Kimmel learned in a phone call from a top Disney executive,
Dana Walden, was that was Dana Walden, the woman that
was friends with Kamala Harris. I don't know, I have

(01:01:44):
to look that up. I think I think they have
some sort of a relationship. Dana Walden on Wednesday afternoon
that his show was being removed indefinitely, according to Dateline News.
During the call, Kimmel reportedly refused to comply with the
calls from critics and the owners of dozens of ABC

(01:02:06):
affiliate stations for him to apologize. Kimmel felt his remarks
required no apologies. The show host also claimed that he
was planning to call out his critics for the latest
attack on him, all while trying to clarify his comments

(01:02:28):
about Kirk's death. Kimmel has claimed that his comments were
mischaracterized when he said during a Monday night show that
the Maga gang was desperately trying to pin left wing

(01:02:49):
ideology on Tyler Robinson, the twenty two year old indicted
for the murder. Disney, however, felt that if Kimmel had
dub down on his MAGA comments, the company would be
forced to make a more drastic decision than simply suspending
the show. This sounds like they're gonna bring it back.

(01:03:14):
It remains unclear if Kimmel is willing to return to
host the late night show Following Disney's actions, Disney came
under fire from the Federal Communications Commission Chairman Brandon Carr
over Kimmel's comments about Kirk's killer. So that's the that's

(01:03:39):
the latest. Nobody knows how this is all going to
play out. Imagine there'll be probably lawyers involved to a
larger degree at some point in the game. Let's head
on over. I'm not I'm not breaking here, but let's
head on over to this other story that I was
just telling you about about Antifa. President Trump has designated

(01:04:01):
Antifah as a major terrorist organization and can likely make
the label stick. That's the writing of Joseph McKinnon over
at Blaze Media. Antifas a decentralized anarco communist militant group
that has long threatened lives and property in the United

(01:04:23):
States as well as in Europe. Inherited its name violent reflexes,
and much of the symbiology from the antis. It's a
German name, the paramilitary wing of the Communist Party of
Germany in the nineteen thirties. See, everything is derivative. There's

(01:04:45):
nothing that's new under the sun that there's nothing that
becomes a different sort of a thing. So, in the
way of Charlie Kirk's assassination, whose ammunition that was used
reportedly engraved with ANTIFA slogans, President Donald Trump signaled a
renewed desire to bring the weight of the American Republic

(01:05:08):
down on the violent leftist group. Trump went the distance
Wednesday evening, announcing that he was designating antifah quote a sick,
dangerous radical left disaster is a major terrorist organization. That's
President Trump's comment. So he is going to go and

(01:05:29):
attempt to stop this organization. There's a lot of challenges here, though, Okay,
there's a lot of challenges. Number One, there isn't necessarily
a framework where okay, here is the person that's running
the entire operation a lot of this is sort of organic.

(01:05:51):
They people are in communications with each other. They will
go and show up at an event. They will go
and show up at a march. They will go and
show up at a glass breaking or you know whatever
it's going to be. So there's like not a headquarters
of this. There's none of that sort of stuff. This

(01:06:12):
is a decentralized sort of an ideology that is happening.
And so I don't know how you go about doing this,
because I think you'd have to first find out where
they are, get them in the act, and then prosecute them.
You're probably going to see something very different. You're probably
not going to see them go out and grab people

(01:06:34):
like this. What they're probably going to do because there's
an ability to get the intelligence in this regard, and
it will probably manufacture. It will probably manifest itself, sorry,
manifest itself as the funders. The funders money is fungible,
but there are records that exist among sympathetic organizations, and

(01:06:58):
that is probably the direction that they're gonna go. They'll
they'll probably go to Oregon, They'll probably go to Washington.
They'll probably go to northern California, where a lot of
the operations are and and I think what they're gonna
end up doing is they're gonna try to get the
funders and they're gonna prosecute the funders and put them
away because they'll they'll say, since it's a designated terrorist organization,

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you are funding a terrorist organization, and now you're gonna
go to jail. That's that's my guess. But I could
be totally wrong. I could be totally wrong. Dudes Talk eleven,

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ten ninety nine three WBT, it's the Brett winter Bull Show.
Good to be with you, seven oh four five, seven
oh eleven ten, be a part of the conversation. All right, Uh,
let's I want to go back to some of the
sound because we you know, we didn't finish their sound.
We have we have great sound from England. Oh yes,
that's right, great sound for me. At the end of

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the hour, I've got a piece of audio that I
want you to hear. It's very emotional and it's something
that may not be necessarily great for the kids, but
it might be if it's of your mind. So there
you go. Let's go out and hear from So we
did immigration, we did Palestine, right, we did Starmer on

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huge deals. Oh, here we go. How about cut fifteen.
This is cut fifteen, President Trump and Starmer there in England,
and two topics are hit upon cut number fifteen.

Speaker 15 (01:08:46):
Please thank you so much, Scott, Thank you. Pethrick Bisconey's
thank you, Prime minister, if I could start with you,
Prime Minister. President Trump has said he's ready to impose
mazes sanctions on Russia if NATO cun stop purchasing Russian oil.
He's got a point, hasn't he? Is that what you
now believe is needed to bring Putin properly to the

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table and watch your message to the President on US sanctions.
And mister President, if I may, the King praised your
personal commitment last night to find in solutions to the
world's most intractable conflicts. You have invested much of your
time and effort in Ukraine. But even as you seek
to broker a deal, President Putin is escalating the war.

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He's firing drones into NATO airspace. You say he has
let you down. Was it a mistake to invite him
to Alaska? Do you regret it? And is it time
to squeeze him, sir and scare him and impose sanctions?
And finally, if I may the elephant in the room,
Lord Mandelsson, he is no longer the ambassador. Do you

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have some sympathy with him that he lost his job
over historic links to Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 8 (01:10:01):
Thank you, Jill, I know whom actually I had heard that,
and I think maybe the Prime Minister would be better
speaking of there. There was a choice that he made
and I don't know what is your answer to that.

Speaker 10 (01:10:13):
Well, I mean it's very straightforward. Some information came to
like last week which wasn't available when he was appointed,
and I made a decision about it, and that's very clear.
On the question of the pressure on Putin and on Russia,
which is obviously really important. Look, I think it is

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a challenge Tope. There are a number of European countries
which are too reliant on energy from Russia. The UK
actually obviously is almost got nothing at all. But we
do need to bear down and work with our European
counterparts here. There are one or two countries I think
that I do need to look again at the question

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of energy. There's no one silver bullet here. We do
have to have a wider suite of sanctions which we've
put in place a number of times, working across Europe
and with the United States, and of course we must
and we are making sure that Ukraine is in the
strongest position now because one of my long concerns here

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has been that whilst we talk about a cease far,
and we all want a cease fire, and we talk
about what might happen after a cease fire, we mustn't
forget that Ukraine needs our support now. And we've said
we stand with Ukraine from the start to finish, and
that means we must continue to supply them with what
they need in order to fight this war, which of
course resulted for Roman is a result of Russian aggression.

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We have particularly done the leadership role in the coalition
of the willing, so that if there is a cease fire,
and if there is a deal, and I do hope
there is, that is then lasting and not then broken,
because given previous history, I don't trust Putin.

Speaker 8 (01:12:00):
Very simply, if the price of oil comes down, Putin's
going to drop out. He's gonna have no choice, He's
going to drop out of that war. And when I
found out that the European nations were buying oil from Russia,
and as you know, I'm very close to India. I'm
very close to the Prime Minister of India. I spoke
to him the other day, wish him a happy birthday.
We have a very good relationship. People had a beautiful

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statement too, we have, but I said, you know, I
sanctioned them. China's bang a very large tariff right now
to the United States. But I'm willing to do other things,
but not one. The people that I'm fighting for are
buying oil from Russia. If the oil price comes down,
very simply, Russia will settle. And the oil price is

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way down, you know, we got it way down. We're
drilling and we produce more oil than anybody else in
the world. We're doing a lot. But I was disappointed
to see that, and the Prime Minister was disappointed to
see that. And it wasn't him, it was other countries.
And he can't do that. You can't do that. You
can't that's not that's not playing fair with the United States,

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and we can't have that.

Speaker 10 (01:13:04):
Thank you, Thank you, Verry about to day.

Speaker 8 (01:13:06):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
Okay, So one of the things that that I'm thinking
about here, because we played the clip earlier in the
program where you had steer tear Starmer. Here Starmer going
with a unilateral recognition of of the UH Hamas UH

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UH set up, right, They're they're going to give territory
that cure Starmer doesn't hold. He's going to give that
territory to the UH the Palestinian authority or the Hamas authority.
I don't I don't know who's who's going to take

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that territory and and do that. But you're you've got
here Starmer saying directly, no, we're gonna we're gonna recognize
the Palestinian state. So Donald Trump could probably call Vladimir
Putin up and say, we're going to recognize the territory

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you've taken as your territory, because I mean, if we're
recognizing a Palestinian state in a unilateral away without the
United States being a part of it, like, what's to
stop anybody else from recognizing the territory that's that's now
in dispute they're in Ukraine. I mean, I don't want

(01:14:34):
to see that happen. But I mean, what's the difference
between those two those two you know, setups, and they're
still selling, they're still buying energy from the Russians. Which
is crazy. I mean, it's absolutely it would be like
buying oil from the Nazis or buying oil from Japan

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or Mussolini, Like, why would you do that if you're
if you're basically on a war footing in that regard,
It's so bizarre. This is why, this is why I
think you had in King Charles. I think he kind
of wanted Trump to come over there and maybe show

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leadership that Kure Starmer clearly does not have. He clearly
does not have that. It's a very interesting sort of
a juxtaposition. All Right, we get comments coming in on

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the WBT WBT text line driven by Liberty Bwick GMC.
Let's see what we got here. Okay, Stanley says, I
have an idea. Since Blue states are complaining that crime
is exact and caused by firearms coming into their states
from Red states, why don't the two make an agreement

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in which will keep our firearms out of your state
if you keep your illegal immigrants out of our state.

Speaker 7 (01:16:16):
Na.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
I see that's I get it. I get it. But
you know that's not going to work because there are
people who are in that other state who are purchasing
illegal firearms and in the country illegally. That's the problem.

(01:16:36):
This is the difficulty that we're dealing with hereh what
else do we get Let's see, Aaron, how many people
aren't working that are able to stand in line for
Waterburger blows my mind. If you're retired, I get it.
If not, you should see if they have applications for

(01:16:57):
employment aka widow window killer. Well hold on to say,
let me think about this.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
I grew up, I I I had probably seven or
eight water Burgers locations where I grew up in the
state of Texas. And I gotta tell you something. I'm
I'm okay with the water Burger. I think the water
Burger in Texas is better than the water Burger and

(01:17:26):
in another location. Doesn't mean that it's not okay. It's
not mean any of that sort of stuff. But the
fact of the matter is, you know it's the water Burger,
and you know it's it's they got they got nice food.
It's it's very nice food. It's it's great. Especially if
you're out late. You know you can go there. You
can grab yourself a great burger and and enjoy it

(01:17:50):
and do all that sort of stuff. I don't line
up for like stuff, I line up when it's getting
on an airplane, you know, I gotta you gotta queue
up and do the airplane. I'll queue up when there's
a concert that you know, me and my my lovely
wife we go to we go to shows. You know,
I'll stay in line for that. I don't stay in

(01:18:10):
line for like restaurants. Is that is that? Is that bad?
Because if you just wait, like if you just wait,
like let's say, two months after they're they're open, it's
gonna be slower and you'll get your food faster. And
they're got to figure out like they're still testing stuff

(01:18:32):
out and they're seeing how does this work? And what
is this? I mean, this is I mean I can
I can read you if you want. I mean, I
could read you the water Burger menu, right. The water
Burger menu is you know, is a very it's a
lovely menu. Isaac was just, you know, recently talking to
me about the water Burger. I mean, you can get

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yourself a number one water Burger or a number two
double meat water burger along with the what a Meal,
the what a Meal. Other choices include the water Burger,
the patty milk, the patty melts, are I used to
go with the Patti melts. Patty melts are pretty solid.

(01:19:15):
Sweet and spicy bacon burger. I don't like the sweet
or this. I want either the spicy or I want
the sweet. I don't want the sweet and spicy. There's
too much going on there. It's like you're getting all confused.
Honey barbecue strip sandwich again, there's that. That's another thing.
I think of it as a burger. I'm going to

(01:19:36):
get a burger. Give me a burger, give me a
patty melt. Let me let me watch patty melt. I mean,
you know, it's like, that's what.

Speaker 8 (01:19:44):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
They got a lot of stuff on this thing. The
green chili double, I've had that. The grilled cheese, why
why why are you getting a grilled cheese lent Okay,
maybe can't eat meat on Friday. Breakfast on a bun ranchero.

(01:20:10):
Breakfast on a bun rancherro, a breakfast sandwich with a
rancherro style flavor. I don't know, I don't. I don't
you know what I eat breakfast at home. I'm proud
to say I eat breakfast at home. It's nothing to

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do with economizing. I just know that I want to
I want to eat stuff that's in my home. Make
my own eggs, make my own bacon, you know, make
my own cream a wheat, make my own all that
kind of stuff, all the all the all the deliciousness
that's there in your house. That's a that's a good thing. Okay,
what did I get here? North Carolina wab better? I

(01:20:53):
don't know what that is. This person is so excited
from Harrisonburg, from Harrisburg that he just said, NC wab better.
All right, I wish I could decode I can't. I
can't decode this. This is a message that's come in
to me and it's undecotable. It's just one of those
things that's what you get.

Speaker 8 (01:21:15):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
I had a guy who wanted to ask a question
of Dave Bollock. He had a question, he said. The
North Carolina Healthcare Preparedness Program HPP has traditionally been funded
by the federal government through grants. The FEDS had decided
no longer to fund this, saying that it's a local

(01:21:35):
or state issue and as such they are no longer
having funding. Our state is prone to disasters and these
are needed resources, as evident through their hurricane responses every year.
Is there a plan from the state to fund the program?
I will try to get an answer to that question.
I just saw this coming in, and I will attempt

(01:21:59):
to get more clarity, uh in some way or another.
I mean, that's really that. I promise you that. I
promise you that. I I wish I could have maybe
maybe done that, you know. I mean, okay, Harrisburg says,
n see what a burger better? Maybe maybe, I don't know.

(01:22:24):
I'm gonna have to wait. I'm gonna have to wait
to get out there and try to check it out.
It'll probably be in December. I want to get the
crowds out, get the crowds away, get the get everything
put in. It's all set up. Everything's good. Here we go,
you know. I wanna, I wanna. I want to have
the I want to have the sampling post the test

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drive period News Talk eleven read w b T. All right,
I'm gonna play a piece of sound. I didn't want
to play it in the three o'clock or the four

(01:23:07):
o'clock hour. We're playing it at the very last segment
of the program. And I just want to if you've
got kids in the car or you or your sensitive
This this deals with what happened to Charlie Kirk in
a very specific way. There's a Christian author by the
name of Frank Turik. He was there with him. He

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was there with him when he was gravely injured. And
so I want to I want to give you a
couple of seconds. If you want to, you know, you
can go back and listen to it on the podcast
and stuff like that. But if there's a sensitive nature, uh,
that may be a problem in your car, I just

(01:23:54):
want to give you. I'll give you a ten count
and then we're gonna play it. Okay, So one or
ten nine, eight, seven, six, five, four three two one go.

Speaker 13 (01:24:11):
This is gonna be the hard part, but maybe also
the comforting part. Charlie Kirk was literally like a son
to me. I have three sons. He was like my
fourth son. My three sons are a little bit older
than Charlie. He was like my fourth son. So when
he was hit. If your son got hit, what would

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you do?

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
What would you do? I got in the car.

Speaker 13 (01:24:39):
Because if there was any way I could save him,
I had to do something. Nah, I couldn't just for
you just take him. You guys got it, so they
got him into the side of the car. It was
an suv because the suv we took over, and I'm

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on one side and there's actually some video there. Somebody's
taking video of this. I'm on one side of the car,
the right side, and they're getting Charlie in, so I
run over the other side. But the guy who was
dragging him in there's now blocking that entrance. So at
that point I run around to the back. I popped
the top of the back gate open and I jump
in the back. The car lurches forward. Apparently somebody jumped
in the cars. The car lurches forward, so I almost

(01:25:22):
fall out of the car to the suv. Then I
grabbed the thing and close it. And there's five of
us in the car. Now Justin's driving. Dan is up
front with the with the GPS. Rick has got him.
Rick's on my left, and Brian is there, and I'm
coming over the back seat and Charlie's laid out in front,

(01:25:46):
just right in front of me, and Charlie's so tall
we can't we can't close the door.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
We drove four.

Speaker 13 (01:25:53):
Miles some I don't know, it's four something miles, all
the way to the hospital with the door open. To
this day, I don't know how Brian stayed in the
car because we're just go, go, go, go go. We're
you know, we're trying to do We're trying to stop
the bleeding. You saw it, and I'm yelling, come on, Charlie,
come on, come on. Meanwhile, my phone is still on.

(01:26:15):
My son and daughter in law hereing this whole thing,
and a security team again justin Dan, Bryan and Rick.
They love Charlie, but they were much cooler than I.
I mean, they're just carrying out. They're calmly, but they're
swiftly doing exactly what they were trained to do. Rick
starts praying out loud. I'm praying out loud. We're yelling,

(01:26:35):
come on, let's go, let's go, let's go. My son's
here and all this, and we're doing the best we
can to navigate traffic. It's not a highway. We're on
surface streets. And suddenly there's an ambulance coming toward us,
and there was a conversation in the car. Should we stop.

(01:26:55):
We're like, no, no, just keep going, just keep going.
The doctor later said that was the right thing to do,
and goes by us. We're still heading to the hospital
trying to get there. At one point somebody says, let's
get there in one piece, because we're just we're cutting
through intersections, you know, we're just beeping the horn. This
is not an emergency vehicle. There's no there's no lights,

(01:27:15):
there's none of this. And I go, we got to
start CPR. So I try and start that. Now, Charlie
wasn't there. His eyes were fixed, he wasn't looking at me.

(01:27:39):
He was looking past me, right into eternity. He was
with Jesus already. He was killed instantly and felt absolutely
no pain. That's what I was told later. But of
course we had to try. And by the way, there
was just just nothing, nothing any of us could do

(01:28:01):
about it. We were giving him CPR, but nothing was happening.
It wasn't like if we had better first aid or
we had better medical facilities so we were faster to.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
The hospital, we could have saved him. We couldn't.

Speaker 13 (01:28:13):
So, if that's any comfort at all, Charlie didn't suffer.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
He was gone.

Speaker 13 (01:28:17):
He was with Jesus, absent from the body present, with
the Lord.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
That's where he was.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
It is true.

Speaker 13 (01:28:27):
When we got to the hospital and they started working
on him right away. They did get a pulse back,
and so Rick and I were just everyone's praying. We're
just praying for a miracle. We had a small sliver
of hope, and the doctor later said that we got

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a pulse because Charlie was a very healthy man, but
the shot was catastrophic. So twenty or thirty minutes later
the surgeon came out and said he was dead.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
That was just a little bit over a week ago.
And we've seen some of the nastiest, worst inclinations of people,
and we've seen the best in people at the same time.

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The notion of hearing that, the notion of experiencing that
is pretty shocking. And the idea that you've got a
group of people in this country who didn't even have

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the decency to lay off all of this just to
a period of time in which his funeral is going
to be held, That to me is very sad. That
to me is sad because not so much the loss

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that people who liked him and things like that. I
feel profound sadness for the people who were trying to
rewrite all of this sort of stuff and act like, well,
you know, he was that guy, you know he was

(01:30:37):
that guy. That guy was that guy. Whatever, Ladies and gentlemen,
what you just heard was real. That's the real story.
We have to keep praying for our country. We have
to keep praying for each other, as much and as
difficulty might be breaking with Brett Jensen his next news

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talk eleven to ten nine nine three wts.

Speaker 7 (01:31:03):
He doesn't get down Steel and you can go on
to remember the song you on. You've got that with you, Tilly.
If you ever minute talks into which will be there
no hesitation brother hood till we cannot be