Urban Struggles, Legacy Loss, and More on The Brett Winterble Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's clear this Sunfresh at thirty first in Prospect is struggling.
This is the first section people see when they come in.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
There's barely any.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Produce, a lot of the coolers and shoves around. The
store looks the same way. The city owns the Loomwood
shopping Center. A nonprofit operates the grocery store.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
This is all in the You know, you read the
reports and you will see that this is what happened.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
So but the fact is Russia interfere.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
So basically that's wrong.

Speaker 5 (00:36):
You guys spent four years telling us that Joe Biden
was fine. You covered up for an invalid and then
when we get the truth, it's like, oh, you know
what it's talking. We got to look forward. We got
to start talking about what's.

Speaker 6 (00:47):
At news Talk eleven ten nine three WBT. It's the
Brett Winterboll Show. It's good to be with you. Seven
oh four five seven zero eleven ten. I I just
want to ask you guys a question. I want you

(01:07):
to go back in time in your mind. I want
you to go back in time in your mind, back
to the days of the Tea Party movement. Do you
guys remember the Tea Party movement? That ignited right after
Barack Obama decided he wanted to push for socialistic answers
when it came to you know, Obamacare and all that
sort of stuff. Remember when he said he was going

(01:27):
to set up a situation whereby we would have an
interior in ministry as powerful as the United States military.
Do you guys remember when he said all those sorts
of things. So, why is anybody surprised, And I'm dead
serious about this, why is anybody surprised to see how
crooked and corrupt the quote intelligence community has become? And

(01:56):
it seems to me that the only person or persons
that are pushing the fight the way it ought to
be pushed is talk radio, and of course what you've
got in the.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Trump White House.

Speaker 6 (02:14):
I don't I don't understand the games that are being
played when it comes to the people who get elected
and they make all these promises, and they make promises
to all their constituencies and I'm gonna go and get
to the bottom of this, and I'm gonna go and
get to the bottom of that, and I'm gonna go
to the get to the bottom of this and that

(02:34):
and all that sort of stuff. Those people really don't
want to do that. They're they're they're shining on They're
they're telling you, hey, guess what. Yeah, I'm gonna go
out and I'm gonna make a big difference. Okay, you
can go and make a big difference. I want you
to think about the United States military broadly speaking. So

(02:54):
you have infantry, right, And I'm not just talking about
the United States Army. I'm just talking about the military
we have, right. So we have air power, we have
sea power, we have ground power, we have space force
that we can utilize. And then we have special ops.

(03:19):
We have special ops. And unfortunately, because a group of
people who I'm not going to mention ever again because
they get very they get very angry when I mention them.
They just want to send to every single battlefield, whether

(03:42):
domestic or foreign. They just want to send special operators.
They don't want to.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Do the hard work.

Speaker 6 (03:48):
You see the Democrats, they basically have embraced not just
illegal immigration, they have embraced criminals from other countries coming in.
And they feel no shame at all, zero shame, no
shame at all. You see you see how they they

(04:11):
comport themselves. You see how they comport themselves have you
got the clip from from yesterday Jeff Zeleny Jeff Zelenye
who is a CN and and a New York Times
reporter and and and Jeff Zeleny, do you have that one?

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Did I not send that to you? Okay?

Speaker 6 (04:30):
He he He was the guy who was on the
on the transom when you had the discussion taking place
with H with Tulsi Gabbert. Tulsie Gabbert and Jeff Zeleeni's like,
I don't know that we should be playing this. I
don't know that we should continue to do this. This
was all settled a long time ago. This was all

(04:52):
settled here. Let me give you an example. This is
this is how corrupt and disgusting the Democratic Party is.
And it's Caitlin Collins who is like exhibit number one. Uh,
this is gonna be Jim Clapper. Jim Clapper, Uh with
uh with uh with Caitlyn Collins and.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Listen to this.

Speaker 6 (05:12):
This is how savage the left is. This is how
savage they are. They are willing to sell the lie
to the feeble minded consumers of CNN.

Speaker 7 (05:23):
Letter written when the director says that she's referred this
these violence to the Justice Department for for criminal investigation. Tonight,
we're told they formed what is called a strike force.
Do you have concerns that they will attempt to prosecute you?

Speaker 8 (05:38):
Well, certainly I do. Uh uh. You know, after eight
and a half years of this, and I don't know
of an intelligence product that was more scrutinized, more investigated
than that product was by numerous people.

Speaker 9 (05:57):
You know.

Speaker 8 (05:57):
It's it's very disconcerting. And I take seriously when president
of the United States accuses me of being a participant
in a treason, this conspiracy, which is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, what's your reaction to that?

Speaker 8 (06:11):
It's ridiculous, It just is, it is untrue.

Speaker 7 (06:15):
So what will you do if they come after you?

Speaker 10 (06:17):
What is your plan?

Speaker 8 (06:18):
Well, I'll lawyer up. I suppose already.

Speaker 7 (06:22):
Have you've already hired attorneys in case of an anticipation
that this Trump just destortment could try to prosecute.

Speaker 8 (06:28):
We've had sort of perpetual attorneys since I left the
government in twenty seventeen.

Speaker 6 (06:33):
Well, that's what happens when you try to overthrow a presidency,
and you're going to have to understand that you're going
to have to ride side saddle for a long time.
You're going to have to have all that money squared
away that's probably got from this, that or the other thing.
And the fact of the matter is, I'm not going
to cry any tears, but I want to go back
to the tea.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Party thing here for a quick second.

Speaker 6 (06:52):
When it comes to the tea party thing, the tea
party people promised a whole lot of stuff they and
they got, They got routed, they got routed. Did in
that second Barack Obama of you know, getting getting into
the presidency. I would love to see that tea party
spirit back again because to me right now, I'm gonna

(07:14):
be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 6 (07:18):
I see a lot of kooks. I don't see a
lot of fighters, And I think that's a problem.

Speaker 11 (07:26):
I see when I got just a little bit older,
all I got come.

Speaker 12 (07:31):
On, Go.

Speaker 6 (07:45):
News Talk eleven ten that nine three WBT, it's the
Brett Water Bowl Show. Seven oh four five seven zero
eleven ten. My gosh, we got all these people who
were suddenly passing away. Really really a very difficult sort
of a thing to see. Whether it's Hulk Hogan, whether
it's Chuck MANGIONI, whether it's it's it's you know, on

(08:10):
an ongoing basis here, this is what's going to happen
because everybody is getting older. You get older every single
day of your life, and you hope that you're going to,
you know, make it, make it as far as you
possibly can. But there's just there's no guarantee. And that
is why I think people should always be the sort

(08:31):
of folks that give their all every single day twenty
four to seven, three sixty five, except for when you're sleeping.
You know, there is no tomorrow. Tomorrow is never guaranteed.
We don't know what's going to happen. Space, aliens could land,
things could come our way that are very ugly. Who
knows about that. So you got to give your one
hundred percent best every single day, every single day. And

(08:53):
you know, one of the things that I think is
so is so curious is you're starting to see the
crack in the wall. The once upon a time reliable
word of the political culture in this country is not
what it was before. ABC, NBCCBS declining the view going

(09:17):
on hiatus after tomorrow, and I don't know what that means,
if that's just vacation for August or not, but they're
they're going out of new programs until they come back whenever.
That's going to be Colbert. Colbert obviously got nuked. You
see how things are changing because increasingly, increasingly you have

(09:41):
people who are broadcasting all sorts of stories that don't
seem to be relevant to the average American. You know
that clip that we had in the beginning of this
program with the free stuff at the Kansas City supermarket,
You know that cliff that we were just we just

(10:01):
played we opened up with earlier. Can can I get
that report? Can you give me that report that she's
doing there, because I think this is something that's very
very important.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Go right ahead there.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
It's clear that Sunfresh at thirty first in Prospect is struggling.
This is the first section people see when they come in.
There's barely any produce. A lot of the coolers and
shelves around the store look the same way empty. So
shoppers have been asking us if the store isn't closing,
then where's all the food? A riden smell comes through
the door, and anywhere you turn you'll see products that

(10:35):
need to be restocked, no hot food or deli.

Speaker 13 (10:39):
I'll watch people walk in and walk out the grocery
store has received financial assistance from the city, but has
been unable to keep those.

Speaker 14 (10:47):
Shelves stocked in an area that in the past has
often been referred to as a food.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Desert around here. A good thing don't last too long.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
And it will impact a lot of people, a lot
of family. The city owns the Loomwood Shopping Center, a
nonprofit operates the grocery store.

Speaker 6 (11:05):
Do you understand the problem with that report? Does anybody
see what it is? Anybody hear what it is? Give
me the first stuff of fifteen seconds? Just the first
fifteen seconds go.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
It's clear this sunfresh at thirty first in prospect.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
This struggling. This is the first section people.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
See when they come in.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
There's barely any produce. Stop right there. A lot of
the cool stop right there.

Speaker 6 (11:23):
If you want to report, and you want to compete
with the media marketplace, you have got to show outrage.
This is a supermarket with no food in it, or
whatever food that's there is rotting. So if I were
going in there to cover that story, if Brett Jensen
was going in there to cover that story, if Mark

(11:43):
Garrison was going in there, if Pete Callander was going
in there, Keith Young was.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Going in there.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
All the reporters that we have, the anchors that we have,
they would they would walk in and they would say
on TV.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Or on the radio, where's all the food?

Speaker 6 (12:04):
Who stole the food, who took all the food? Who's
getting paid? See what American people want? And actually it's
not even just American people, it's people around the world.
They don't want to be told that there are food availabilities.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
When there are none.

Speaker 6 (12:25):
You see, almost every outlet that has failed has failed
because they lie to their people, they lie to the community. Well,
we are attempting to try to figure out exactly what
happened with this terrible flooding in Texas, and we're certainly
going to try to get to the bottom of it.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Well, the answer is pretty clear. There was a flood.
They were not ready. This is really bad.

Speaker 6 (12:56):
How did all twenty seven million illegal immage grants come
in over the course of four years? Easily the border
was open. Caitlin Collins isn't going to acknowledge that, ABC,
NBCCBS is not going to acknowledge that. They're not going
to acknowledge any of that. Why is Donald Trump so

(13:18):
mad at the intelligence community? Because they tried to set
them up, and on top of that, they tried to
shoot him twice.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Well, who do you mean by them? They know who
they are, They know who they are. See.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
This is why talk radio has never been more vital.
This is why talk.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Radio has never been more vital.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
Because I will tell you if it's raining, I will
tell you if it's pouring. I will tell you if
there is a hurricane, a.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Warning, Willy Wonka. This is what has to happen. This
is what happened.

Speaker 6 (13:54):
People do not want to hear the lie over and
over again, because everybody's got a phone in their pocket,
everybody's got access to this piece of information or that
piece of information. What they want is context. You think
Caitlyn Collins sits there at CNN and listens to Jim

(14:15):
Clapper and you heard that clip. We all heard that
clip of what four minutes ago, and she asks him
the question, so what are you gonna do about it?

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Well, I'm gonna hire some lawyers. Do you have a lawyer?

Speaker 6 (14:29):
Well, I kind of have some lawyers that I know,
and they're gonna be around me and all that kind
of stuff. What does Caitlyn Collins not ask Jim Clapper.
It's a very simple question. It's the question that needs
to be the main thrust. The answer is this, what
did you do to make Trump mad? Seems like Donald

(14:49):
Trump's pretty mad at you. It seems like the intelligence
community did something. Do you have any kind of a
fathoming of why this may have been people being angry?
The same thing as the supermarket? Why would the food
all be gone? Do you have a limit? Is it
like in All you Can Eat? Do people just show
up with a truck loaded up and go away and

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then there's no more food?

Speaker 2 (15:12):
How do we do this? How does that happen?

Speaker 6 (15:17):
The quote news people, whether local news, national news, international news,
they want to sell you a soft, soapd style of communication.
And that's why talk radio is important because we see
what's going on. Everybody driving around right here today in

(15:38):
the hot weather is sitting in their car and they're saying,
you know what, I don't much like the way things
are going with the violence in Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Oh but vy Lyle's gonna run for a seventh term.

Speaker 6 (15:52):
But there's violence in Charlotte, there's crime taking place in Lancaster.
There are so many other sorts of things that are
happening that are going on, but people don't want to
talk about it.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Don't forget.

Speaker 6 (16:08):
Coming up on Saturday, we're gonna have Popsicle Fest. Come
on down and let's see it. Don't worry. There might
be some gunplay, but you'll get your popkin popsicle. No,
I think the priority is go put the bad people
in jail, whether that's Clapper Clapper, or whether it's Brennan Brennan,
or whether it's Julaane Maxwell, whether it's those sorts of people.

(16:32):
But stop lying to the American people. They've seen it already.

Speaker 11 (16:45):
I am a real Ericion, fight for the rights of
every man. I am a real American Canyon, fight for
what's right.

Speaker 6 (17:03):
Here's talk eleven to ten ninety nine three WBT. Very
sad day today passing of Hulk Hogan, and I wanted
to reach out to one of my favorite people, and
that is Bo Thompson joining us here.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Bo, welcome back to the to the airwaves. Here.

Speaker 15 (17:19):
Hey Brett Man, what a shock that was today?

Speaker 6 (17:22):
Yes, it was I mean your your your thoughts on
the on the span of all that he has done
and uh, the the the imprint that he has put
on the American experience. I'm just I'm just kind of
curious about what you think from that perspective.

Speaker 15 (17:38):
Well, and not only that, but of course that old
adage about celebrity deaths coming in threes. We had Malcolm
Jamal Werner and Avi Osbourne and now and now Hulk Hogan.
I mean, you know, I was thinking about it today,
and I think people who've listened to my show over
the years. No, I've always made no bones about the

(17:59):
fact that I was a pro wrestling fan as a kid,
and I grew up and the rise of hul Cogan
era in the eighties, and so so much of my
childhood was about figures like hul Cogan. But I was
thinking about the eighties, you know, and if you had
to think about who are the most defining personalities of
the eighties, I think you had to start with Reagan,

(18:21):
Ronald Reagan. But I think, no, it's a short list, right,
I mean, Michael J. Fox or Sylvester Stallone and hul
Cogan's on there. And haul Cogan during the eighties to
about nineteen eighty eight eighty nine, he started to sort
of wane a little bit before he had a sort
of resurgence about ten years later when he switched companies

(18:41):
and went to work for Ted Turner and became a
bad guy. But in the eighties, you know, Haul Cogan
was responsible for putting pro wrestling on the map, along
with Vince mcmahn. And there was a time there in
about nineteen eighty three when when Hogan was in Rocky
three opposite Just Alone and that movie. I mean, I

(19:03):
have an office here at home where I do a
lot of my show prep each night, and it's nothing
like John Hancocks, which is the stuff of legend. But
I've amassed a kind of a wall of magazine covers
and pictures and this, you know, memorabilia. And one of
the ones I have is the Sports Illustrated cover from
the early eighties when Rocky three came out. It's got

(19:24):
Paul Cogan on the cover of it. And it was
that moment where pro wrestling sort of caught the attention
of mainstream America, and Hogan kind of rode that wave.
And and you know, if you see somebody on the
street right now and you say name one pro wrestling,
the one that they can probably name, even if they

(19:45):
know nothing about pro wrestling and and have never watched
any of it. They can probably tell you the name
Haul Cogan, you.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
Know, you know that's it's so interesting the way you
you frame that, because when you started talking about that
run of time and beginning with Reagan.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Reagan was very aware.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
As a as a as a communicator, but also as
somebody who had been in Hollywood and understood the power
of what that meant. American cowboys and and all those
sorts of guys and most of those professional wrestlers, those
were like the modern day sort of cowboys, right that
you would see and no doubt this stuff all leaked

(20:27):
into the Eastern European part that was not free, and
all of this stuff, and man Hulk Hogan made no
bones about how much he loved this country and what
this country did for him.

Speaker 15 (20:40):
I will say this, And you can't tell the story
of Hulk Hogan and not tell what happened in his
later years. There's a lot of you know, a lot
of celebrities we can think of sure like this. I mean,
even like Michael Jackson, for example, who also was a
name I should have added in that mix. If you're
talking about kind of the Mount Rushmore or the number
of names you can name on you know on one

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hand of people that defined the eighties. But you know,
Michael Jackson in the early eighties could do no wrong.
If you compare that Michael Jackson to the one that
we knew in a few years before he died, completely
different situation. Paul Cogan in the last fifteen twenty years
at a very very checkered past. I mean, he he

(21:22):
had a situation where he was involved in a scandal
where he had had a racial slater that he said
in a video. And then there was a there was
a sex tape scandal that also followed him around, and
he even got sort of banned from the WWE for
a spell there, although he'd repaired things in recent years.
And then there's you know, the Hogan that had the

(21:43):
persona where we saw him aout the the RNC last number.
He was talking that his new beer. He was always
doing something. And you can't talk about Hulk even the
people that worked with hul Cogan. If you and I
followed wrestling from long time, I haven't you know, in
a long time with kind of what's going on in

(22:04):
modern day. But you know, for a spell there when
I was a kid growing up, and then again when
I was a young adult in the in the late
nineties when when Hogan was kind of back in vogue,
when he was a bad guy, but he was working
for the other you know, the Wcwright, but he there's
a if you read stuff about behind the scenes, I

(22:24):
wouldn't say Hogan was one of those popular wrestlers ever
in the eighties. But then as time went on, he
fell out of favor with a lot of people. And
if you talk to a lot of people that worked
with him during those times, he wasn't very popular backstage
with many people because a lot of people said that
he sort of was a me guy who sort of
worked the system for himself. But what I think all

(22:45):
wrestlers and all wrestling fans would say is whether you
loved him or you hated him, can't deny that that
wrestling would not be in the mainstream, And I mean
pro wrestling would not be in the mainstream the way
it is today and the way it was then without
Hulk Hogan sort of understanding and capturing the attention of
people at a moment, and you know, basically everybody kind

(23:05):
of jumped on on his bandwagon back in the eighties
and wrote it to what it became at its heights
and still what it is to a large degree today.

Speaker 6 (23:13):
And you get to this place where where he's speaking
for for Donald Trump at that convention. That that incredible
convention because it had all of its other underlining stories
including President Trump getting shot and and who do we
have as the Secretary of Education now right, It's just
like it's like the circle of the circle of life.

(23:34):
I guess to a certain degree, and I look and
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Man.

Speaker 6 (23:37):
The very first thing that went across my mind thinking
about Rocky three was Thunderlips. It's just that it's one
of the greatest names for a for a put On
character ever, was Thunderlips. I thought that was that was
just a phenomenal touch in that movie.

Speaker 15 (23:53):
Oh yeah, and that when he was in Rocky three,
that changed everything. I mean that that took him from
a guy that's been on TV on wrestling to uh,
who is this guy? Let's let's like I said, let's
jump and ride this wave. And you mentioned you mentioned
Rocky three and Thunderlips, and I think, uh, again, one
of the all time greatest broadcasters. What happened to be

(24:14):
a professing professional wrestling announcer named mean Jene Oakerland. Oh yes,
and Mean Jean would stand behind him, beside him in
his w w F and WWE interviews and he'd say,
he'd say, oh, here's hul Cogan. He say, let me
tell you something, Mean Gene, and then he would go
off and do his things, and it would always end
with what you're gonna do when Hulkmania rides wild on you?

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Brother? So great man, that's awesome.

Speaker 6 (24:42):
Well look, uh, I know you're going to be doing
a whole bunch of this tomorrow on the programs as well,
and and everything else that's moving out there in the
same same way.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
What do you got planned for tomorrow?

Speaker 16 (24:55):
Uh?

Speaker 15 (24:55):
Well, we have obviously John Hancock on the show tomorrow
as usual. What we have Sean O'Connell with this big
Fantastic four movie opening up today. And then, like you said,
I mean thinking back on the week that was with
all the Chuck Mangioni pe so you know, now you're
talking about four people from the world of celebrity and
everything of course that's going on with politics that today.

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The breaking news during my show was, of course, as
I was talking to you about Michael Watley running for Senate.
So all of that to react, a big week of
a lot to talk about and a lot to recap,
So we'll get it cranking at six am.

Speaker 6 (25:32):
Enjoy the night and stay cool, man. I appreciate you
being here. Thanks Brett, Hey, you got it. News Talk

(25:53):
eleven ten, not nine to three WBT. It is the
Brett Winterble Show.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Good to be with you. Seven four five seven eleven ten.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
As we as we sold John, and we move on
and we look at all the big stories that is
that is happening out there.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
And one of the.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
Things that if you heard with Bo was the fact
that I'm going to be joined by Michael Wattley tomorrow
at three five. He is the latest candidate for the
Republican nomination in the state of North Carolina for the
Senate job that is going to be, you know, obviously

(26:29):
filling the shoes of potentially the shoes of Tom Tillis.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
So this is going to be a really, really.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
Jim packed sort of conversation that's going to be happening.
And we love getting to catch up with you guys
and spending time all the way around seven four five,
seven zero eleven ten. I have another clip that I
want to play just to make the point that we
were all sort of looking at earlier here. Okay, so
here is cut number thirty two. This is the idea

(26:59):
of Okay, what's happening here? How are we going to
handle different sort of issues that might try to throw
people and all this sort of stuff. This is cut
number thirty two.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Letter it. The first one was McCabe.

Speaker 17 (27:13):
Yes, we're very worried if Trump wins because of what
Trump is saying about investigations and about this treason is conspiracy, folks.
That was eight June of twenty twenty four. And what
do you talk about. We're already in discussions about leaving
the country if Trump wins. Okay. The second one clapper

(27:34):
was wait for it last night where he says, hey,
I've lawyered up. These brothers know we're coming. This is
why I bang it. Behind the scenes. I'm saying, go
grab their passports now, the FBI should go to Obama,
Hillary Clinton, all of them, take their passports. You're going
to see these rats heading down a rat line. You

(27:55):
heard McCabe. That is from a year over a year
ago when President Trump was just talking about it in
interviews or or you know, going buck wild at these
rallies and people digging it saying we got to do this. Well,
now we're doing it. And John Simon said yesterday, Hey,
if this thing's real, the next phase you'll see in
the development is a federal strike force to bring together
the best the best to actually hone this down and

(28:18):
get real about what crimes really committed, what's the information
we've got, and how people are going to be charged.
And last night it was announced the first one was McCain.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
So so here's the thing about this.

Speaker 6 (28:28):
Okay, I I don't I don't want to sacrifice, and
I'm maybe maybe I'm out on the on the limb
here by myself and maybe i'm I'm I'm sawing the limb.

Speaker 18 (28:37):
Off.

Speaker 6 (28:38):
I don't want to sacrifice, uh do process and stuff
like that. I want people to get to the bottom
of all of this stuff that's been kind of percolating.
You have to think about Chernobyl and you think about
how you had that melt down and how they had
to go in and try to in case it with

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lead and all that sort of stuff that they do.
I'm not a scientist, but you know, I understand that
you have to get in there and handle that radioactive material,
just like Fukushima back in twenty eleven. You have to
figure out a way to encapsulate what needs to be
fixed so that it does not leak out. We should

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not play dirty and fast with any of these people.
These people need to be treated in exactly the same
way that former President Trump, now President Trump was treated
by Mershan.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
They should be treated just like Jack Smith.

Speaker 6 (29:48):
They should be treated just like I rent a lot
of cabins. That's a very technical term. I rent a
lot of cabins. I mean I it's it's just one
of those things.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
What do you use to pay for those cabins? I
don't know what do I? Straight cash? Straight?

Speaker 15 (30:12):
Was there?

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Straight cash? I didn't have a straight cash there.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
They probably have, see but they probably have like bitcoin
and stuff, But we don't not We don't want to
shortcut any of this stuff. What was sauce for the
goose is sauce for the gander, or as other people say,
what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
And there's a lot of there's a lot going on here,

(30:36):
But I don't want to short circuit that. I want
the entire process. I want the cords. I want to
see the cords. I want to see the process. I
want to see the evidence. I want to see was
their collusional sort of stuff?

Speaker 2 (30:49):
How did that go about?

Speaker 6 (30:51):
You don't need to you do not need he weus
talk about strike forces and all that take their passports. No,
you don't take their passport until obviously they are going
to be charged and you know they have to post bail,
they have to do all the same sort of stuff
that was done repeatedly to people like Rick Gates, to

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people like Donald Trump, to all that. No, I don't
know if you're they're going to be in a cabin.
Will they be in the cabin? Are they going to
be in a cabin?

Speaker 2 (31:24):
I don't I just.

Speaker 6 (31:27):
This hour went very quickly. I have a feeling we've
got great stuff straight ahead. In fact, I know it
because I've got the content right here. News Talk eleven ten,

(31:53):
not an I'm three WBT. It's the Brett Wintererble Show.
It is good to be with you as we continue
to soldier on and look at a bunch of different
storylines here. I want to go to a place that
I don't normally talk about. This is not something that
I typically would would dive into, but I think it's
a very important thing. I had a conversation with somebody
who lives out on the West Coast and we were

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talking about President Trump and the notion of the President
of the United States as a celebrity. That's a very
that's a very rare thing when you have celebrities in
the White House. In fact, I think, really when you
when you think about it, it's it's basically just Ronald Reagan,

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who was an actor, and then you had Donald Trump,
who was somebody that was known for a number of
different things and most you know recently, stuff like The
Apprentice and and that sort of stuff that.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Was made him a household name.

Speaker 6 (32:55):
But the idea of celebrity, I think cuts two different ways.
And I was alluding to this earlier in the in
the program, the idea of having a celebrity who is
running the government or running the branch of government that
is the House, or or the Senate or the White House.

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Now I'm focusing mostly on the White House for this
particular conversation, but certainly we had Fred Thompson who was
in the Senate for a minute, and he's very very
was a famous actor you've had professional football players, you've
had baseball players, You've had I don't know if you've
had hockey players, but but you've had, you know, basketball

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players right playing in that regard, those are celebrity jobs.
But the idea of the power of celebrity is something
that I think we ought to think about because AOC
is starting to become one of those people who wants
to be a celebrity. Mom Donnie in New York is
somebody who wants to be a celebrity. Even even Crockett,

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Jasmine Crockett, she's trying to get to a place where
she's going to be a famous celebrity. You just heard
all the filth coming out of the mouth of Joe
Biden's son Hunter.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
He wants to be a celebrity. Everybody wants to be
a celebrity, but they don't want to do the work.

Speaker 6 (34:17):
Except I do think Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump did
what it took to do the work. So when exactly
did and I think this is an important thing to
talk about.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
When did celebrity culture start in the United States? When
did that begin? How did that begin?

Speaker 6 (34:36):
Well, it actually started early on. Modern celebrity culture and
its focus on the lives of famous individuals gained prominence
in the eighteenth century, that's the seventeen hundreds, early figures,
military heroes, political leaders like George Washington. Some religious leaders
were well known and admired in early America. The rise

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of lit recy and printing in advancements in the eighteenth
and nineteenth century also led to an increase in writers
and artists, and performers and public intellectuals. Remember the man
who murdered Abraham Lincoln was himself an actor. The rise

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of public figures, late nineteenth century, newspapers, magazines, they all
played a role in shaping the public interest.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
In the late.

Speaker 6 (35:28):
Nineteenth century, wealthy individuals prominent figures in society columns, even
those who were involved in scandals, gained notoriety. The concept
of celebrity, where someone is known for being known, became
more common. And then obviously what you had in the

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Hollywood era the early twentieth century, that propelled people to
a whole another level. But what about the notion of
a star. Right, people talk about she's a star, he's
a rising star, that person is a star. Well, you

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would think it's a modern thing to talk about, But
when you look at the research on this. The word
star to describe a famous individual, particularly an actor, was
first recorded in seventeen seventy nine in England, describing an
actor named David Garrick. The word star suggests brightness, prominence,

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exceptional talent, implying someone who outshines all the rest. And
then when you get into the modern era and star
is not big enough, they go.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
To what superstar.

Speaker 6 (36:53):
The term superstar actually gained popularity in the sixties and
the seventies. Andy Warhol used it to describe figures like
an actress Mary Warnoff. Some sources traced a similar expression
to an eighteen thirty two cricket book, which described a
player as the star of the first magnitude. The term

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superstar indicates an even greater level of fame, of influence
and impact, implying a star that surpasses the ordinary. Can
you think of a contemporary star.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
That rose very, very high and then suddenly crashed to earth? Anybody?
Can anybody think of that?

Speaker 6 (37:42):
I can tell you who it is. I'll give you
an examp. I'll give you a perfect example for what we.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Just lived through.

Speaker 6 (37:46):
George Clooney George Clooney's Star on er he's a movie star,
Ocean's eleven, Ocean.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Seventy five, whatever it is.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
He's in these movies, and all of a sudden he
decides he wants to dabble in politics. The problem when
you decide to go into politics after being a celebrity
is probably half the country's gonna hate you, pretty much.

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His friendship with Barack Obama and by extension, Joe Biden,
and by extension the coupdeta against Joe Biden that caused
a whole lot of a problem in a rift, a
whole big problem. And so when you look at like
all of this sort of stuff, this isn't necessarily new.

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The emergence of public figures, performers, increased literacy and mass
media newspapers and magazines and all that sort of stuff
is where you came. You got into the star system
in the mid twentieth century. And now in this present age,
what has happened. It's such a terrible thing to think
about democratization and diversification of stardom. In other words, anybody

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can be famous, anybody can be infamous. This morning, when
I woke up and I picked up the channel changer,
and I put the news on what was the first
thing I saw? You probably saw it. It was somebody
who should never be regarded, never be celebrated, never even

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be looked at again. Coburg, the murdering maniac. But now
even he's famous. He's famous, just like George Clooney, but
for a different reason. Democratization and diversification of stardom. Social
media platforms they allow individuals to cultivate direct relationships with

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their audiences, leading to a wider range of celebrity and
influencers and con content creators and those with niche audiences.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
And when you get into the niche audiences.

Speaker 6 (40:08):
That's where you start to see the tearing of celebrity,
because any kook can put up a website and claim
anything about anyone at any time. So ultimately even the
brightest stars have a risk of crashing down to earth,

(40:32):
Which means the lesson of this is that you have
to have an underlying superstructure that's going to keep you
on the straight and narrow so that you don't fall
victim to this cult of star worship. You have to

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know what you believe and you have to deliver it
in that way.

Speaker 11 (41:08):
Sake, take a son, sick, Take me anywhere, taking anywhere,
Son Sasta, Jess, Jess.

Speaker 6 (41:21):
Money, Sam News Talk eleven tennine in I'm three WBT
Brett Waterbow Show seven O four five seven.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Eleven ten, Jim, Welcome to the program.

Speaker 19 (41:29):
Jim.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
What's on your mind today?

Speaker 15 (41:30):
Sir?

Speaker 19 (41:32):
Yes?

Speaker 20 (41:33):
Uh, what to day? What a conversation they must be
having waiting for Saint Peter to open those gates today.
Can you imagine, Hey, Hulk, how you doing? Hey Chuck? Oh,
what's going on? Hey Ozzie? I heard.

Speaker 18 (41:52):
You know?

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Are you? I? Yes, I can, I can understand seeing
all this.

Speaker 6 (41:57):
Yes, this is this is one of those things and
and uh you know that's that's that's.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
About probably how the conversation would go.

Speaker 20 (42:04):
Yes, sir, Yeah, it's amazing when these things happen in
it seems like these things happen in threes, doesn't it.

Speaker 6 (42:13):
Well we're on four or five actually at this stage
I think, oh so yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 20 (42:19):
Also, you were so close together and they I don't
know if you've do you listen to you ever listened
to any Chuck Man? Joni?

Speaker 6 (42:26):
Yeah, of course he was a He was a tremendous
uh talent, I mean absolutely a staple of my my my,
you know, exposure to him was in the seventies and
early eighties, so that that's that's where I that's where
I picked him up, Yes, sir.

Speaker 20 (42:45):
Yeah, Al demiola to him, and uh yeah, it's just
the style, the classical signs of jazz scales and stuff.
For something that is a guitar player you just have
a curiosity about. I never learned to play like like him, right,
never really had a desire to. But my god, what

(43:05):
a time where Randy and Ozzie are having right now.
He's probably.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
I imagine, yes, I can imagine that. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
no doubt about it. Jim absolutely reunited. Yeah, and it
feels so good. Yes, it's true.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
Duplicate.

Speaker 20 (43:23):
But yeah, enough of enough of this. As they say,
there are things that I have to further elaborate on
this Epstein situation. And I've heard him Nick Morvaney talking
this morning about how Trump is going in a direction,

(43:45):
but the party isn't following him. I mean, the following
that Trump following isn't isn't down with him. I heard
this on the morning show today. And there is a
reason why he's doing which the party isn't privy to.
There our intelligence reasons. Now that he is saying Now,
before he was saying, we're gonna look at him, having

(44:06):
my Attorney general looking at it, it's on her desk,
stuff like that. Now he is absolutely saying the hopes
by the Democrats, which means that they have pretty much
secured things behind the curtain in the black offs world,
in the intelligence community, our intelligence community. They have gotten
to the point where it's been sanitized. You will not

(44:27):
find anything behind there. You will not find anything there.
Go ahead and start the investigation.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
That is what he's saying.

Speaker 20 (44:34):
Go ahead, But it's a big host.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
There's nothing there.

Speaker 20 (44:37):
That's where we're at, and the party should just you know,
the hardcare following of the Trump followers are going to
get their way.

Speaker 6 (44:46):
Okay, but hold on, hold on, look, I have to
intervene in this regard because it is it is July
of twenty twenty five, right, So it's July of twenty
twenty five, so we have an entire year to go
before we get to the voting in that next cycle. Right,

(45:09):
So right now it's twenty twenty five, so we'll go
through an entire year and then get to twenty twenty six, right,
And it'll be in November of twenty twenty six when
that election will happen. Here's here's my theory on what
the the.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Folks are going to do.

Speaker 6 (45:30):
They are running around and they're covetching, and they're freaking out,
and they're worried, and they're not on board with Donald Trump.
They're not on board with with this, that or the
other thing. Look, they will come back.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
They're not.

Speaker 6 (45:47):
They're they're out there running around and doing what they
want to do. And when they see the threat coming
in twenty twenty six of wide open borders and all
that sort of stuff and impeachment of Palooza and all
that sort of stuff, I think they will come back home.
I think they're just out there, you know, flying around
and yelling and screaming and carrying on. I don't think

(46:10):
that this is a I really don't think that this
is any way shaper or form a death blow of
any kind.

Speaker 20 (46:19):
Okay, let me say talk to them if I can.
If you're there listening, let me tell you something. If
there was something there, they would have used it as
the October surprise.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
They would have the Billy.

Speaker 6 (46:30):
They would have you are you are correct about yes?
You are right about that. You are right, or they
would have deployed it right after he got inaugurated, and
they would have dropped the whole, you know, stinking box
of whatever.

Speaker 20 (46:44):
They're not tailed on to the Billy Bush tape for
a year and a half.

Speaker 6 (46:48):
I don't I don't remember the exact number, but yeah,
that sounds about right to me.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yes, yes, so great stuff, Jim.

Speaker 20 (46:57):
And if they had anything, if there's something there, they
had four years to do it, when he got inaugurated,
they had.

Speaker 6 (47:03):
Time before the well, they put him in they tried
to put him in jail, and then they tried to
shoot him twice.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
And that's the problem.

Speaker 6 (47:10):
I'm not saying the Democrats did that, but the they,
the they that's out there, attempted to stop him and
so for some reason he somehow made it, which is
kind of interesting.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Jim.

Speaker 6 (47:19):
Great call appreciates the thoughts. News Talk eleven, ten ninety

(47:44):
nine to three WBT. It's the Brett Witter Bull Show.
It is good to be with you. Seven oh four
five seven zero eleven ten. Elon Musks is saying that
he is seeing rough times ahead for Tesla. He lost
seveneeen billion dollars after Tesla's historic revenue drop, So that

(48:07):
is a substantial hit, no doubt about that as well.
In addition, United Health says they are investigating and cooperating
with the DOJ on an issue involving Medicare. In a reversal,

(48:28):
United Healthcare says that they are going to cooperate with
an investigation that is undergoing with the issue involving.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Medicare.

Speaker 6 (48:41):
So how does this story shake out? I know we've
got a lot of people out there who are concerned
about this sort of stuff. United Healthcare Group says it's
cooperating with federal criminal and civil investigations involving its market
leading Medicare business. The healthcare giant said on third that
it had contacted the Department of Justice after reviewing media

(49:05):
reports about investigations into certain elements of its business. United
Health has a long record of responsible conduct and effective compliance,
the company said in a Security and Exchange Commission filing.
Earlier this year, The Wall Street Journal said federal officials
had launched a civil fraud investigation into how the company records, diagnoses,

(49:33):
and leads to extra payments for its Medicare advantage or
MA plans. Those are privately run versions of the government's
Medicare coverage program, mostly for people sixty five and over.
The company's United Healthcare business covers more than eight million

(49:57):
people As the nation's largest provider of Medicare advantage plans,
The business has been under pressure in recent quarters due
to rising care use and rate cuts. The journal Bollster
Journal said in February, citing anonymous sources, that the probe

(50:18):
focused on billing practices in recent months. The paper has
since said that the federal Criminal Healthcare Fraud Unit was
investigating how the company used doctors and nurses to gather
diagnoses that bolster payments. So it sounds like they're saying, Okay,

(50:42):
they're going to look at what's happening, and they're trying
to see how this is going to going to move
in that particular direction. United Healthcare said in the filing
Thursday that it has full confidence in its practices and
committing to work with the department throughout the process. Right now,

(51:05):
President Trump is standing outside the Federal Reserve in Washington,
d C. And he is commenting on the remake of
the Federal Reserve, the building itself. Let's hear what he's saying.

Speaker 9 (51:16):
They were twenty eight percent, and they gave us five
hundred and fifty billion dollars upfront. One hundred percent, five hundred,
we get ninety, they get ten, ninety percent, they get
ten and there's no payment.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
It's not a loan or anything. It's say, it's a
signing bonus, I call it.

Speaker 9 (51:33):
But they gave us five hundred and fifty billion and
took down the tariffs a little bit, and then they
agreed to open their economy to everybody.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
This was not easy.

Speaker 9 (51:41):
This took you know, a lot of people walked out
of rooms and things. Sometimes they walked out of rooms,
went back to Japan. I said where are they? They
went back to Japan. And then they called and they said,
can we make a deal. They came back a couple
of times this happened. This was, as you know, it
was over a period of months, and ultimately they agreed
to open their economy. Now, the opening of the economy

(52:02):
is worth more than five hundred and fifty billion dollars.
The payment that they meant it's worth more. So between
that and the payment, we reduced it down to fifteen percent,
but they were at about twenty eight percent, and then
they bought it down.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Basically, could other countries buy attention.

Speaker 9 (52:17):
Yeah, I would let other countries by attentions.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
I feel good about it.

Speaker 9 (52:24):
I mean, look, I have one dispute, and the dispute
there could be some things with money, and you know
where it comes from, how it's come from, how it's printed,
where it's printed, all of the standard things with a FED.
But I just want to see one thing happen, very simple.
Interest rates have to come down. If the interest rates

(52:44):
don't come down, we're knocking it out.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Of the park with high interest rates.

Speaker 9 (52:49):
If interest rates come down, then that final little element
kicks in is housing.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
And the head part is that people, wonderful.

Speaker 9 (52:57):
Young people, young couples starting off, they can't get a
mortgage because the rate. To TIM knows that better than anybody.

Speaker 7 (53:02):
I think that mister President, if the rates are hurting
families in the country, why let't that keep going for
another eight bucks.

Speaker 9 (53:08):
Going on his part, because to do that is a
big move and I just don't think it's necessary.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
And I believe that he's going to do the right thing.

Speaker 9 (53:17):
I believe that the chairman is going to do the
right thing. I mean, maybe a little too late, as
the expression goes, but I believe he's going to do
the right thing. The fact is.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
It's so big.

Speaker 6 (53:28):
So that's the President of the United States alongside Tim
Scott standing outside the Federal Reserve talking about the construction
that's going on at the Federal Reserve. You just heard
him talking about how Japan came to the ballgame and
they were able to cut those deals. He says he's
also willing to buy things down, meaning letting some relief

(53:49):
come into these other countries that are are looking for
a better deal with the United States. And he says
that he also does have confidence that Chairman Powell of
the Federal Reserve is going to come around and drop
the rates, because you still have a very high rates
that are going on here News TALG eleven ten not

(54:23):
an I three w B two Brett Wadable show. Good
to be with you as we take a look at
a number of the different stories that are that are
out there. Also, uh, let's let's take a look over
in uh in the science realm here for a quick second,
because I have I have of late, I've been looking
closer and closer at some.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Of these stories that are that are moving.

Speaker 6 (54:44):
I told you guys a couple of days ago that
Earth is starting to spin faster, and I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
I have to I have to read this to you
as the exact storyline. It is Earth is starting to
spin faster, and scientists are considering doing something unprecedented. That's

(55:11):
like an ant on an aircraft carrier.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
What do you talk? What do you think you can do?
Two days this summer have been unusually short, with the
shortest expected to be August the fifth, leading global timekeepers
to consider adding a negative leap second. So now, wait,

(55:35):
hold on, now, we're cooking the books with the speed
of the of the of the Earth. You gotta be
kidding me.

Speaker 6 (55:44):
Earth is spinning so fast that global timekeepers are considering
something that's never been done before, a negative leap second.
So far this year, July the ninth and July the
twenty second have been unusually short by about one point
three and one point four milliseconds. August fifth is expected

(56:08):
to be even shorter, losing one point five milliseconds. This
follows a trend that has been observed since twenty twenty.
COVID man, it's got to be COVID. We now have
slightly shorter days than in the last fifty years, said
Dirk Peister, the head.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
I'm sorry, I'm gonna laugh.

Speaker 6 (56:33):
Dirk Peister, head of Time Dissemination Group four four to
two at Germany's National Meteorology Meteorology Institute, previously telling Life Science.
So the Earth is spinning too fast. A day on

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Earth lasts roughly twenty four hours or eighty six four
hundred seconds, the time it takes for the planet to
fully rotate on its axis. But exactly how long it
takes to perform one full rotation depends on many factors,

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including the positions of the Sun and the Moon and
the Earth's gravitational field. On August fifth, the Moon will
be at its furthest from the equator, which changes the
impact of gravitational pull on Earth's rotation, in this case,
speeding it up. So the Earth is on speed, I

(57:41):
mean speedy. It's a speedy planet. Over the past few
billion years. See when I get a sentence like that,
I have to laugh at that. Over the past few
billion years, Earth's rotation has been slow down, which scientists

(58:02):
think is largely due to the gradual drift of the
Moon away from our planet. The Moon is walking away
from us. The Moon is breaking up with us?

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Are you what? Are you kidding me?

Speaker 6 (58:14):
You think you're gonna get a better deal with Jupiter.
You think you're gonna get a better deal with Uranus.
You think you're gonna get a better deal with Pluto
is not even a planet anymore. I don't even know
what that thing is. It's been relegated, like in soccer.
They sent it down. They sent it down to Lutin
or something over there in England. Over the past billion years,

(58:37):
the Earth's rotation has been slowing down, which scientists think
is largely due to the gradual drift of the Moon
away from our planet. However, since twenty twenty, the planet
has been spinning ever so slightly faster.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
You know darn well why this is happening. Probably it's
probably China. China's gotten like hacking the planet.

Speaker 6 (59:01):
We're only talking a couple of milliseconds, which for most
of us is totally imperceptible.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
I love that word. It's just such a good word, imperceptible.
It's like a science word. However, for computers, GPS, banking systems,
large telescopes, and electricity networks around the world that rely
on incredibly accurate synchronization to operate every millisecond counts. What

(59:29):
are we gonna do?

Speaker 6 (59:30):
You know, we gotta do. It's very simple. We gotta
spend more. We gotta spend more money. We gotta spend
more money. We gotta bring back we got we gotta,
we gotta, we gotta bring back Jimmy Hendrix. If we
go backwards enough, we can get back to Woodstock and
see him playing live.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
All over again. That don't never happen.

Speaker 6 (59:51):
So yeah, they think they're gonna try to figure out
how they can cook the books, just like the FED
audit the FED and audit the planet.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
That's my call. You're welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
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so as you can imagine, traffic is running incredibly slow,
and this is going to be all the way from
Belmont Mount Holly running you back to Billy Graham Parkway South.
They do remain just under fifteen Berkshire Boulevard still has
that vehicle fire, although it is under controlled. Northbound at
Lucia Riverbend that's got traffic slowing back to forty five interloops,

(01:00:29):
still under ten miles per hour there. As you can
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the southbound side at exit Nine's got a wreck no injuries. However,
traffic is slow from two seventy seven east backing you
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Speaker 21 (01:00:59):
In Cleveland County this afternoon, Deputies asking for help to
track down a man accused of shooting a woman to
death in her front yard. The shooting happened last Friday,
had left Tamia Logan dead on baker at her house
on Baker Drive. Thirty seven year old Marlowe Anthony Johnson
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be considered armed and dangerous. Johnson facing a first degree
murder charge. Over in Alexander County today near Taylorsville, two
people facing drug and weapons charges after a drug bust
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sixty eight year old Patrese Fox in jail this afternoon.
Federal officials raising concerns today over the nation's organ donation system,
saying dozens of donors may have still been alive when
their organs were harvested.

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The Department of Health and Human Services as it hopes.

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To reform the entire organ transplant system after it re
examined some transplant operations in three states, finding what they
say were serious ethical and legal concerns. Among those concerns
people being prep for surgery while still showing neurological signs,
and some people they were not properly pronounced dead. Now,
HHS officials are vowing a top to bottom review of
the entire process. One of the organ transplant operations that

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were studied through HHS put out a statement this week saying,
we hold ourselves to the highest standards and are committed
to an ongoing improvement. As we carried out the sacred
responsibility of honoring each individual's decision to become an organ donor.

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That report from Mark Meredith. Hulk Hogan, a legend in
the sport of professional wrestling, has died.

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Hulk Hogan, the man who transformed the sport of professional wrestling,
has died at the age of seventy one. Police in Clearwater, Florida,
say they responded to Hogan's home after a call about
a cardiac arrest. Hogan was later pronounced dead at a
nearby hospital. Hogan was undoubtedly one of the biggest stars

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in wrestling history. Known for his trademark blonde mustache and
run in yellow bandanas, Hogan was a pop culture icon
whose career spanned multiple decades. He was a six time
WWE champion, headlining WrestleMania multiple times, and as a two
time WWE Hall of Famer, once individually and once as
a member of the nWo. Tony Jeny Waldo Fox.

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News wrestler Rick Flair, who lives in Charlotte, issued a
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Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Boy, there's a there's a lot of stuff going on
out there.

Speaker 6 (01:05:59):
One of the things, you know, we're getting up here
into football season, getting closer to football season, getting closer
and closer to football season.

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Got the college football? You got the high school? Are
the high school guys are they?

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Are they?

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Are they playing yet? Are they?

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You know?

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Are they practicing? The high school guys are practicing? College
guys practicing.

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NFL's got their camps starting up here right, people are
all at the camps.

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So Jim Harbaugh, are you.

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Familiar with Jim Harbaugh? Coach of the Ravens, has a
brother who coaches coaches somebody else.

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I don't know he got he got incoming? Did you
hear the incoming that he got?

Speaker 6 (01:06:46):
So there's there's Jim Harbaugh and what are these too
smart for the room? Sports reporters said, Hey, is it
true that you you went over to meet with Trump,
that that you spent time with Trump and and some
of the players went with you to go see President Trump?

(01:07:09):
I mean that that that seems to be like a
pretty uh why would.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
You guys want to go and talk to Donald Trump?

Speaker 6 (01:07:17):
That's that's the implication that this reporter came with, why
would you go talk to Donald Trump?

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
I mean, what's going on with that?

Speaker 6 (01:07:29):
His answer is spectacular, Jim Harbaugh. He takes this reporter
all the way down cut twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
You got a chance to go visit with the president.

Speaker 16 (01:07:39):
Man, what was that experience?

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Like?

Speaker 24 (01:07:40):
It was amazing? It was awesome. And I promise you
I root for our president. You know, I want our
president to be successful, just like I want I want
my quarterback to be successful, and I want my team
to be successful. Uh and uh And it was. It
was an amazing experience. You know, it's it's not often
you get invited and you get a chance to do
something like that. As a family, you know, we were there.
My daughter was there, Jim's daughters were there, My mom

(01:08:02):
and dad were there, My mom and President Trump. You know,
was just seeing how he treated her was was really meaningful,
you know. And that's the fourth president. Now, Jim met seven.
Jim has met seven presidents, so he's got the lead
on me. I think he pointed out, did you guys
notice that, right, He's got seven.

Speaker 15 (01:08:20):
I got four.

Speaker 24 (01:08:21):
So I had a chance to meet President Obama twice.
Incredible experience, had a chance to meet President Biden when
he was vice president in Iraq and spent a lot
of time with him in Iraq, which was amazing. And
then you know, twenty four to twenty five years old,
Jim got invited also to the White House to meet
President Reagan because he was a Heisman Trophy candidate and

(01:08:43):
we got to go as a family. So I met
President of Reagan. Have a picture in my office to that.
So those are moments that I definitely cherish, and that
means a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
John Harmon, now, why why would you like, why would
you want to just make a thing about that.

Speaker 6 (01:09:00):
The president is the president, He's a coach. He went
and spent some time, they had a conversation. I mean,
what is what is the what is the problem with that?

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
You know? In twenty twelve, I came to Charlotte and.

Speaker 6 (01:09:14):
I was here broadcasting with with a number of other folks,
and we were we were spending our time here in
the in the Queen City, and it was the d
n c's convention, and I talked to nice people. I

(01:09:35):
met nice people, I met people who were on the
other side of the political aisle. I went through all that,
all that sort of stuff. And I you know, when
you get an opportunity to talk to people, it's probably
a good idea to just be polite and and and
and be nice. But this reporter had to make a
name for themselves. They had to make a name and say, Okay,

(01:09:55):
wait a minute, you what.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Would you go spend time with Donald Trubb? This is
just absolutely he's actually the president of the United States. JD.
Vans is the Vice President of the United States. I
don't know if you guys know that tull See Gabbard.

Speaker 6 (01:10:09):
Toull See Gabbard is is somebody who is the DNI
who's investigating all the chicanery that went on in twenty
sixteen and twenty twenty and beyond. That's that's what these
people do. You know, you keep seeing all these all
these leaks coming out, and you see people complaining about this.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
That and the other thing.

Speaker 6 (01:10:34):
How how do you rate the performance of the president
at this stage of the game? In on July the
twenty fourth, twenty twenty five, are you are you feeling
like things have improved? Are you feeling like things have
not improved? What is the basis for either of those

(01:10:57):
sorts of opinions. I'm happy. I'm happy to me. I'm
happy to talk to people. I don't just talk to
people who agree with me. I have spent this entire
week speaking with people who disagree with me, and I
think that's what's great. Not everybody is going to be
of one mind. Not everybody is going to be of
one specific priority. Everybody's gonna take a different position. Or

(01:11:22):
maybe sometimes they'll agree on one thing and then they
won't agree on the other stuff. The idea of siloing
people and saying I must only believe in these things.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
And not everything else. That's what I was talking about
in the first hour of the program. The idea of.

Speaker 6 (01:11:36):
Saying, you know, I must stay in lockstep. We must know.
You get new information, you take the information, you process
the information.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
And you change your mind.

Speaker 6 (01:11:50):
I'm driving in my car, and I'm driving in my
car to go to Nashville, Tennessee, and.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Right there in front of me is the outer Banks.
I'm gonna just.

Speaker 6 (01:12:02):
Keep driving until I get to Nashville, Tennise. Well, no,
if you're going in the wrong direction, you can pivot
and go back the other way. That's what you should
do when you get new information. Unfortunately. It's one of
these things where it's like, well, no, no, we are
only believing what we believe because we believed it three
days ago.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Is that really a good way of being? Is that
a good way of doing things?

Speaker 6 (01:12:28):
Are you going to eat a roast beef sandwich that's
been sitting in your fridge since twenty sixteen?

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
I hope you don't eat that. That's new information.

Speaker 25 (01:12:38):
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That accident on the northbound side of eighty five still
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California ammunition background checks declared unconstitutional by the US Appeals Court.
I remember when I purchased firearms in the state of
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your firearm. And then of course I had to get
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the Second Amendment right to bare arms. In a two
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Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
So there we go. Yeah, I asked the guy at
the time, and it was really not nice. But I
asked the guy at the time.

Speaker 6 (01:20:16):
I said, listen, do I have to have a separate
background check for every round I buy?

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
And the guy, the poor guy, was just really not happy.
He was bummed.

Speaker 6 (01:20:29):
All right, let's check in with Mike. Mike, welcome to
the program. What's on your mind?

Speaker 4 (01:20:34):
Thank you, Gret, good to always talk to you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
Sir, Yes, you as well.

Speaker 4 (01:20:38):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 15 (01:20:39):
You made a lot of good stuff on the tag
on that last.

Speaker 4 (01:20:43):
Block from Jim Hawball on to the White House. Yes,
how pleasant top was doing, et cetera. But what I
like to start with is when you got here and
you said it was twenty twelve is that mine.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
I was here for the convention in twenty twelve.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
Gotcha, Gosha, Well, that was also time during the convention. Interestingly,
WBT had me in studio hosting John Handcott shows. He
was doing evenings at that time. In fact, I think
he had the TJ. Richard slot, and doing that for
a week was a was an eye opener. It's not

(01:21:20):
an easy job that you guys do in their promise.
I know from perfect experience, having tried it for five nights.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
I got you on that. Okay, yeah, absolutely exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:21:31):
But well, I want to talk about it a little bit.
He was with President Trump, since you put that out there. Oh,
the other thing is about that he talked about was
engaging with people with whom you don't always agree and
that still managed to have a decent conversation. I'd like
to think that's you and me and having meeting them,
and you and I met at the News and Bruis

(01:21:53):
and it was a good experience. And I think we
can do that, and I think that's the sort of
thing that's more immediate now than ever. But in terms
of talking with President Trump, it seems to me let
me take on it, but it seems to me that
in many ways he is writing some chapters in that
long book will be careful what you wish for. And

(01:22:14):
if you look at these team major issues that are
everybody's involved with right now, the E Steam files and
now the recent Tulsi Gabbert revelations, these are things I'm
not sure that he particularly, you know, wants to talk about.
Now we know about the E Steam files, not want

(01:22:34):
to talk about it. But yet he was wishing for
for the longest time to have those files released and
promoting this theory that, gosh, it might even show Democrats
being part of this big worldwide conspiracy of pedophiles, et cetera.
And now he doesn't want to release He wished that

(01:22:55):
they were released before, and now he doesn't. And likewise
it seems to me even more important to be careful
what you wish for. By now tell Kuming, Colcy Gabbert,
let's talk about these new intelligence quote unquote revelations about

(01:23:15):
way back in twenty sixteen in the early pump campaign
and the Russian interference with the twenty sixteen election. Because
the Russian hoax that everybody talks about, it's not a hoax.
I mean the three things that are absolutely clear, and
what this new discussion will bring up in the line folks,

(01:23:37):
is that one, there was in fact major interference by
Russia in the twenty sixteen election. They never campered with machines,
They weren't able to do that. The boy or boy
did they flood social media and find interject themselves into
our election process.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
So let me let me just ask you a question.
Let me just ask you a question.

Speaker 4 (01:23:57):
The Trump campaign welcome that. And then number three, and
there are a lot of communications between higher ups and
campaign and Russia. And then number three, when people started
looking into it, they very much obstructed and pie to
fort the investigation. So my point is, so I'd love

(01:24:19):
to take again, is does Trunt really want to be
kicking that off? Because right now most people think the
Russian hope hopes is the hope. But we dig into it,
I mean, it's not okay, sort of bringing this issue
back up, Okay, anyway, what's your take?

Speaker 6 (01:24:38):
So my take on that is, so, what how much
Russian interference is Let me let me put this way,
how much of Russian interference was tolerated by the intelligence
community in twenty sixteen? Was tolerated when Barack Obama was president. No, No,

(01:25:03):
I'm I'm being I'm speaking totally clearly.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
How much?

Speaker 6 (01:25:08):
How much Russian interference was tolerated by the Obama administration
in twenty sixteen?

Speaker 4 (01:25:21):
Actually, really, I have to think about that. That's a
really big question in the sense of you've gotten different alternative.

Speaker 6 (01:25:27):
No, the answer is the answer is. The answer is
you just told me that there was massive amounts of
Russian interference.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
So if so that so?

Speaker 6 (01:25:37):
No, No, okay, I get the intelligence. Yes, I'm granting you.
I'm Mike, I'm granting you that. I'm granting you your
dream of massive amounts of Russian interference.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Okay, okay, I'm giving you that gift. I'm saying. I'm saying.
I'm saying, Mike, so how much?

Speaker 15 (01:25:54):
What was the response?

Speaker 4 (01:25:56):
Is that kind of what you're asking?

Speaker 6 (01:25:57):
What what I'm asking is why did the alleged president
at that time, who I think was Barack Obama, why
did he not take any kinetic steps to stop it?

Speaker 16 (01:26:09):
Mike, that's a great question.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 6 (01:26:12):
It's not it's not a great question. It's not a
great question. It's not a great question. It's not a
great question. It's it's a fact. It's a fact because
your president at that time, just as your president today
is Donald Trump. The president in twenty sixteen commissioned all
of this stuff to look into Donald Trump. But he

(01:26:33):
never picked up the phone and called Vladimir Putin and said,
knock it off because of all the stuff you're doing
with the meddling in the election. He never put him
on alert. He never reached out to interlocutors to say
to them, you better stay away from us, or we're
going to hit you with with with with.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
A sanction, with this or with that.

Speaker 6 (01:26:58):
So that is a very interesting question that you raise, Mike,
because I guess Barack Obama loved being president, but I
don't know how much he loved the United States because
he didn't stand up for the United States and the election.

Speaker 4 (01:27:13):
Or it's possible, Brett that rather than raising this issue
in the middle of a presidential.

Speaker 6 (01:27:19):
Campaign, Oh, nonsense, nonsense, nonsense, no, no, no, no, no, no,
that's that's nonsense, because you just had in Joe Biden,
the guy who rode side saddle for Barack Obama, a
guy who who interfered with the election of Donald Trump

(01:27:42):
in this last election by by bringing charges that were
that were folderol.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
So that's the issue here, Mike. We're gonna have to
agree to disagree. But boy, you've.

Speaker 6 (01:27:52):
Opened my eyes, and I just want to know why
it is that Barack Obama didn't believe strongly enough that
he could that he could reach out to Vladimir Putin
and tell him to knock it off.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
He never did it. That's weird, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (01:28:11):
It's as if he was trying to lure the Trump
administration into a trap, and right up to the moment
that that election was consummated and Donald Trump became the president,
in the final moments of that period, you had Susan

(01:28:31):
Rice and the cabal saying we followed the law exactly,
and we wrote the memos that said that that we
didn't break the law.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
They did. That's where the come up.

Speaker 6 (01:28:44):
And this is going to be seven oh four, five,
seven eleven ten, News Talk, eleven ten, that ninety three WBT.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
Let's go to Keith Young with you update, Thanks Brent.

Speaker 21 (01:28:52):
President Trump's daughter in law now says she's not running
for Senate in North Carolina. So the Trump White House
has moved quickly to annoyed. It'soe Michael Whatley as the candidate.
Watley is from North Carolina. He's the chairman of the
National Republican Committee.

Speaker 15 (01:29:07):
Absolutely in the race.

Speaker 14 (01:29:08):
I can't imagine anybody else in the public side getting
in because Mike is going to have the absolute unconditional
approval of Donald Trump.

Speaker 21 (01:29:15):
That's Mick mulveney, the former White House Chief of Staff,
speaking on WBT earlier today. And it looks like the
Democrat who runs against Watley will be former North Carolina
Governor Roy Cooper.

Speaker 29 (01:29:26):
Western Carolina University political science professor Chris Cooper says, the
former governor has the political resume to go up against
Michael Watley.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
So he's got fairly high approval ratings.

Speaker 30 (01:29:37):
Doesn't mean that he's universally loved by any stress, but
it does mean that he's pretty popular. He's obviously somebody
who has built the kind of track record that is
going to be difficult to deal with for any Republican.

Speaker 21 (01:29:48):
That Shakira speaks of Queen City News with that report
back to Wadley. He's never served in public office, but
he's no stranger to the local area here.

Speaker 31 (01:29:57):
Wally has lived in Gastoni since nineteen ninety eight. Served
as the vice chair of the Gaston GOP from ninety
ninety nine to two thousand and one. Walley eventually became
chair of the NCGP in twenty nineteen, before coming head
of the RNC in February of twenty twenty four. Current
Gaston GOP chair Stephen Denton says that Wally is the

(01:30:18):
perfect person to fill the role vacated by Tom tillis.

Speaker 15 (01:30:21):
Just an overall great, very genuine, high integrity. You know,
you meet a lot of people in politics you can
tail just have an ulterior motive. That's not the case
with Michael Whtley. He truly cares.

Speaker 31 (01:30:33):
Fred Johnson to be bech news.

Speaker 21 (01:30:35):
In Washington this afternoon, President Trump went on a tour
of the Federal Reserve Building, which is under renovation. During
the visit, FED Chair Jerome Powell pushed back against Trump's
assertion that the cost of the project has surpassed three
billion dollars, saying Trump included a building that was already completed,

(01:30:55):
and you're.

Speaker 4 (01:30:55):
Including the Martin renovation.

Speaker 15 (01:30:57):
You just add our entire capital.

Speaker 14 (01:30:58):
You just added in a third buildings.

Speaker 28 (01:31:00):
When that is that's a third building.

Speaker 9 (01:31:02):
It's a building that's being built now.

Speaker 21 (01:31:04):
It's been he was built five years ago. Today's tour
coming as the president and members of his administration criticize
Powell for the fed's decision to keep interest rates steady,
highlighting the growing cost of the Fed's renovation as a
possible reason to try to fire him. Treasury Secretary Scott
Besson says the government will name a nominee to replace

(01:31:26):
Powell in December or January, when his term is up.
Remembering Hulk Hogan, the seventy one year old professional wrestler
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(01:31:48):
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ninety nine THREEBT, let's check your afternoon drive.

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(01:32:25):
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Keep you moving.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
All right, Charlotte, looking good on the roadways of your
headed out for that early lunch run. So of course
we're gonna see some sowdowns in our usual hotspots.

Speaker 34 (01:36:26):
Up on it with you, WBT traffic making that afternoon
jam something to look forward to.

Speaker 6 (01:36:34):
That, all right, from the WBT text line driven by
Liberty Buick GMC. Some comments coming in and certainly we're
taking yours all the way up till six o'clock and

(01:36:55):
then you'll have breaking Brett Jensen's going to be there,
and then TJ Ritchie after that. A great number of
talented folks behind the mic who are going to inform
you and entertain you. So here comes a Chris with
a message, Brett, when are people going to stop underestimating Trump?
Do they realize how dumb they look? In every issue?

(01:37:16):
Time after time? That was Chris checking in. I think
you know, when you're the president of the United States,
you have access to a lot of information that you
didn't have when you were a private citizen. That is
something that's a very important thing as well.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
Oh, this is not a nice message. This is not
a nice message. This is who is this? I don't
have a name. I'm sorry. I wish I had a name.
I don't have a name.

Speaker 6 (01:37:44):
It's good when Mike calls in. I get exposure to
other things. I know, come on that. Look, I like
talking to these folks.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
This is great. This is what we do. Don't.

Speaker 6 (01:37:59):
Look, you can't get people to become catechized unless you
expec you know, unless you expose them to.

Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
The Catechism, right, all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:38:12):
Does Mike not think that George Soros and Facebook and
other tech companies are just as guilty of election interference?
Now that's a very important point.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
I like that.

Speaker 6 (01:38:23):
That's a that's a that's a that's a hot take
in a good way, not in a kind of a
crazy way.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:38:28):
And then we've got one from Tony. Hey Brett, this
is Tony from King's Mountain. I think Mike just likes
to hear himself talk. He talks and talks and never
says anything. I don't know how you put up with it,
because I like talking to people, like I'll talk to
I've got two people on the board. I'm gonna go
there in a second. But I enjoy I enjoy the conversation.

(01:38:49):
If I didn't enjoy the conversation, I mean, I would,
you know, I wouldn't want to be doing this job.
But I mean it's really it's kind of a cool
thing to be able to do here, you know, I
really I joy the time. Keep an eye on Bo
Thompson our rip hul COVID.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
He was with us actually earlier today.

Speaker 6 (01:39:08):
I specifically requested Bo Thompson to join me, and he
joined us at the what was it the three thirty
five segment? The three thirty five segment, And we've got
that as a pullout, so you be able to hear
that conversation as well. Don't forget you can always listen
to our podcasts. All the station's podcasts are available to you,
and we appreciate you guys spending time with us. Let's

(01:39:29):
talk to Richard next. Richard, welcome to the program.

Speaker 35 (01:39:32):
Hey, how you do going on? You know, in light
of this information, with this treason, his behavior, I think
everything is on the table. Benng Ghazi. When that happened,
there happened to be an election around the corner. We
need to look at that, We need to look at
COVID nineteen, We need to look at these these indictments
as well as the assassinations of Donald J. Trump, because

(01:39:56):
the Democratic Party there's a pattern of behavior that we
all need to follow. This bouncing ball.

Speaker 6 (01:40:03):
Well, okay, and I agree with what you're saying. I
think that at some point there has to be a
ready reaction for us that can respond sort of in
the same style as when it's a campaign period of time.
There ought to be just responses that come out on
some of these allegations so that you can say, Okay, no,

(01:40:24):
this is what actually happened, not that. And I think
it's it's imperative for people to put out actual factual
information and to see how that's going to end up going. So, yeah,
I'm with you on that we should not just take
everything at their word.

Speaker 35 (01:40:40):
Yes, there needs to be deeper investigations because what's going
on are a lot of things that we never thought
would happen before. So it seems like, I don't know,
maybe I'm just naive because they're willing to do anything
for power, and it's very scary, the corruption.

Speaker 6 (01:41:00):
It's the world so so let me let me tell
you something here that might be of interest to you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
Uh in a little in a little bit here.

Speaker 6 (01:41:09):
So I I know you're you're from the northeast, right,
you're you you are a transplant here. So Donald Trump
is suing New York because they are a sanctuary city,
and uh, this is looking like it's going to blow
up in a big, big way. Uh, this is this

(01:41:30):
is going to be a very interesting sort of back
and forth between uh the president and UH at New York,
and uh it remains to be seen. Uh how we're
going to resolve this gonna be very interesting.

Speaker 36 (01:41:43):
Yes, great, all right.

Speaker 35 (01:41:44):
People need to be held accountable because all the people
are being heard. Absolutely illegal criminals.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
Absolutely. Hey, call back any time, Richard.

Speaker 6 (01:41:52):
Great to talk to you, man, always a good caller.
David is up next, David, Welcome to the program.

Speaker 36 (01:41:58):
What's going on, my friend?

Speaker 2 (01:41:59):
I'm happy to be with you. What's going on?

Speaker 36 (01:42:01):
I just want to say I had or do you
agree that if Trump had won a second consecutive term
that he would have been able to accomplish the things
that he's accomplished with taking a four year I call
it a hiatus where the country was practically practically run

(01:42:22):
into the ground. But the people that if it had
not been for that four years, the people that were
on the fence, the people that didn't really realize how
much destruction and thievery and terribleness that goes on as
a result of the Democratic the Democratic Party being in power.

(01:42:44):
Would he have been as effective with a second consecutive
term than having skipped four years. And let everybody see, Okay,
these people are coming out of the woodworks now. They
should be from they should that the Republicans should be
financing the town hall meetings and the news outlet that

(01:43:07):
the Democrat Party is taking part of because they look
redig You.

Speaker 6 (01:43:12):
Well, I think that's a really interesting question, and it's
a really thoughtful one too, the idea of, okay, if
he does get re elected, what does that look like,
because at this stage of the game, we would now
be experiencing all the Biden stuff or all the Kamala
Harris stuff, and it would be really pretty rough stuff. Now,

(01:43:33):
I don't know, because maybe a Mike Pence would decide
he's going to run, or jd Vance or somebody else
all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 6 (01:43:44):
We have to always remember the presidencies are not imposed
upon the people.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
It's the people who vote.

Speaker 6 (01:43:50):
And obviously with COVID and all that sort of stuff,
there was a lot of chicanery, especially with the suppression
of information coming from a META and all those companies.
So it's hard to know how that would have been. Like,
for example, maybe you fall in love with somebody and

(01:44:11):
you want to marry them, and then for whatever reason,
they decide at the last moment they don't want to
marry you, and it's a terrible breakup, and then suddenly
you find the right person for you. And I think
that is that is the thing that's got to be
looked at, because we.

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
Cannot know the unknown outcome.

Speaker 6 (01:44:29):
But that's a really great idea though, David, I appreciate
that that call. We'll take your phone calls all the
way up to the top of the hour seven oh four, five,
seven OHO eleven ten, News Talk eleven ten, not a
nine to three WBT. Let's head on over to Pam
the jam Warner.

Speaker 3 (01:44:42):
Get a look at the roads, all right, thanks Brandan.
Lots to look at out here on the red waves.
East Charlotte Kilbourne Drive at Eastway Drive for a hit
and run. Got another one in the fifty two hundred
block Nevin Road and slowdowns and the sixty four hundred
block of West Sugar Creek read they've gone an accident
on scene. It's the drive times that are going to
get you though. Gas County is the absolute worst. They've

(01:45:02):
got this accident off to the shoulder eighty five north.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
A little something for the people.

Speaker 6 (01:45:23):
Oh, seven four, five, seven, eleven ten.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
Let's let's let's hear and let's hear what.

Speaker 6 (01:45:32):
Dawn's got to say. Don welcome to the program. How
are you done?

Speaker 16 (01:45:36):
I'm doing great driving home, let's say warm afternoon. But
there's no wrecks on the back roads of South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:45:44):
That's some good news. I'm hoping.

Speaker 6 (01:45:45):
I'm hoping it's all straight and narrow and all that
good stuff.

Speaker 16 (01:45:48):
They go for it, my friend, I let let me
ask you. I have two questions to ask you, sir,
about what Donald Trump is doing. And I'm taking you know,
these answers. Trump. I heard him say it when he
was talking about how good he's done about prescriptions. Is
going to get prescriptions reduced, not ten percent, twenty percent,

(01:46:10):
fifty percent, but a thousand percent, even fifteen hundred percent.
Now that's not mathematically possible, is it. No, it's not,
and that that's one reason for me he went on
front in Casina. The second question I got is this
he talks about terras and all the money that Terrace

(01:46:30):
has brought in. If I understand what happens about terrafs,
say they come from China and they come to be
to the United States shore, and the person who ordered
them has to pay the tarror. The Chinese don't pay it,
their government doesn't pay. It's the American distributor who buys

(01:46:51):
it at a higher price. And my thought would be
he would pass some or all of that increase in
price onto this.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
Is that incorrect, Uh, No, it's not. It's not incorrect.

Speaker 6 (01:47:04):
The the one thing that I would point to, though,
is when you have the like let's say the product
is coming in from China, you will you will not
have to pay the tariff if it's manufactured in the
United States. It's the reason why he's got the tariff
money going that way is because they are not manufacturing

(01:47:27):
in the United States. He wants the manufacturing in the
United States. And China is a very China's a very
strange scenario don because China, China actually needs our market,
We don't need the Chinese market.

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
And and and so.

Speaker 6 (01:47:47):
That's I mean that that is one of the that
is one of the arguments that this is right. So
if we if we decided to say to China, we're
gonna put five hundred percent uh tariff on them, right,
they would be out of luck because they they need
us way more than we need China, because China doesn't
buy that much stuff from us.

Speaker 16 (01:48:09):
Well, that would be true for a lot of things.
But what about the American soybean farmer who lost the
butt the last time Trump did something like that, and
the only reason they survived was because the American tax
payer gave money to the farmers to keep them afoot
because they had no place to sell their soybeans except
to China. I think that's yeah, isn't that true?

Speaker 2 (01:48:31):
I think yes, I think that.

Speaker 6 (01:48:33):
I think that it's a matter of who's whose uh uh.
You know, Ox is getting gord in that case, right,
and so.

Speaker 16 (01:48:41):
And the third the third thing I got. I heard
a lot of people talking about they want all the
criminals out. One of the last people I've seen lots
of the episodes where they arrest young mothers with two
kids under four and huisked them away off to wherever
they are because they're here illegally. Now I know they're
not supposed to be here, but by the same token,

(01:49:03):
it's hard to convince me that a young mother was
no criminal record and the job and two young kids
is a rapist, a murderer, a robber, or anything like that.
They're just people trying to make it live.

Speaker 6 (01:49:16):
Is there a particular Is there a particular instance in
which you've seen that happen.

Speaker 16 (01:49:21):
Yeah, the last lady look in the paper every time.
What about the guy who been here forty seven years,
never had a criminal record. They picked him up. They
had a guy that had the three sons and the
army or the Marines, whichever it was, and they took
him off. What I'm saying is they don't care now
because they got a quote to make of three thousand

(01:49:42):
people for a week, okay, something like that. And they
if you have brown skin and they think you're Hispanic,
they're gonna pick you up and take you away and
keep you there for a while. So they and they
may take him to a three weeks to sort it out.

Speaker 6 (01:49:58):
So let me ask you a question, So, how much
criminality is to be tolerated?

Speaker 16 (01:50:04):
Well, wh when they talk about the ripeness and the murderers.

Speaker 6 (01:50:09):
And I'm just saying, I'm just saying, like, if we
have a law that says you can't come into the
United States unless you're authorized.

Speaker 16 (01:50:15):
To be here, you know, that's the different thing. Is
what I'm saying is, but.

Speaker 6 (01:50:20):
How much how much criminality should we tolerate? I don't
I don't understand, like how much fentanyl should be allowed
to come in. If it's just a little bit of fentanyl,
do we let the guy keep it?

Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
I mean, I don't know that.

Speaker 16 (01:50:29):
We're not arguing about the same thing. What I'm saying
is there are people here who are working for a
living who are paying.

Speaker 6 (01:50:35):
Well, of course there are there are criminals that are
working for a living too.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
I mean, it's it's.

Speaker 16 (01:50:40):
Yes, but people aren't criminals.

Speaker 2 (01:50:43):
How do you know that?

Speaker 16 (01:50:45):
Well, a lot of people they have arrested have been
charged with anything yet.

Speaker 2 (01:50:51):
Yeah, but there's no charge. There really isn't any charge.

Speaker 6 (01:50:54):
There's no charging when it's a violation of of the
coming into the United States.

Speaker 16 (01:50:59):
But saying what you're saying, but what the real problem.

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
There is so you have so you do.

Speaker 16 (01:51:03):
Have a say wait, wait, wait, let me finish. Let
me finish the one thing that ought to have been
done twenty years ago, ten years ago. Yeah, just to
have a work permit, come in and you work and
live here.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
We did that. We did that already. We did that already,
we did that.

Speaker 6 (01:51:19):
We did that. You can look it up. Yeah, you
could look at you can look it up. And it's
called Simpson Mazzoli. And it happened under Reagan. And I
remember when it happened because I lived on the border,
and I remember the deal that was made, which was
they are going to allow a certain number of people
getting amnesty, and then they never made good on that. Again,

(01:51:43):
the question I would have for you, and I know,
it's it's it's we're up against. It is the fact
of how much criminality do you want to tolerate in
your community. I don't know what that is. I think
everybody's going to feel differently. But if people came in
and they've had a nice, you know, a nice run
at this, I think this is going to be an
ongoing debate.

Speaker 2 (01:52:01):
I really appreciate your call.

Speaker 6 (01:52:03):
Don you're a you're a wonderful caller, and I look
forward to talking to you tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:52:07):
Thanks so much. News Talk eleven, ten ninety nine, three
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