Violence, Values, And More On The Brett Winterble Show

Tune in here to this Thursday's edition of the Brett Winterble Show! 

Brett kicks off the program by talking about the heartbreaking tragedy that took place the previous day and the cultural forces people often point to when trying to make sense of such violence. He reflects on how devastating it is for families and children who will carry those memories forever, then shifts to a broader examination of “the culture.” Brett describes culture as the shared values, beliefs, symbols, and practices that shape how people live, but he warns that it can become a hollow facade if corrupted. He argues that too much of today’s culture has been perverted by harmful influences—violence, drugs, and moral decay—yet emphasizes that individuals have the power to resist

We're joined by Don Brown from North Carolina to talk about his U.S. Senate campaign and the issues he says are most pressing for the countryBrown emphasized his commitment to law and order, fiscal responsibility, and constitutional governance. He praised former President Trump’s policies and argued that America’s big cities are suffering due to weak leadership and misplaced priorities. Brown outlined three main campaign goals: tackling the exploding national debt through what he calls a “Deep State Reduction Act,” protecting medical freedom by ensuring no federal or employer mandates for vaccines, and restoring judicial balance by limiting what he sees as unconstitutional overreach from federal judges. He also addressed foreign policy, insisting that the U.S. military should only be used when national security is directly threatened. Brown encouraged listeners to learn more and support his campaign at https://brownfornc.com/.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:25):
News Talk eleven ten three WBT. It's the Brettwintererble Show.
It is good to be with you. One of the
things that I've been thinking about over the last twenty
four hours is, and I'm not trying to turn this
into philosophical you know, debates and things like that, but
I keep hearing people blaming different things for what it

(00:47):
was that happened by this murderer yesterday. And I'm not
gonna rehash everything about it. It's a heartbreaking story and
I feel so badly for the families and the people
and the children and who will never forget what happened
on their first week of school. And you know, it's
just it's a very difficult thing. But one of the

(01:09):
things that I used to really hate, I mean, I
used to really hate this stuff was like debates over
the culture, debating about what the culture is, what the
culture should be, all that sort of stuff. Right, I've
thought about this for a long while, and I never

(01:32):
really wanted to do that kind of talk radio. I
never wanted to say, well, here's what we've got going on.
But the reality is we have to be honest about this.
The culture, the culture. Blaming the culture is like saying,
there's a bunch of crooks in Washington, d C. What
else do you have? What else do you have?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:52):
What is the culture? Seriously? What is the culture? At
its core? Culture or the culture is the shared set
of values, beliefs, behaviors, symbols and practices that shape how
a group of people interpret the world and interact with it.

(02:16):
It's not just traditions or language. It's the invisible operating
system behind how people think, feel, an act. It's the
best I could come up with. You have social norms,
what's considered polite, rude, ambitious, lazy. You have symbols and language, flags, slang, rituals, memes,

(02:42):
belief systems, religion, political ideologies, moral codes, practices, how people work,
how they eat, how they celebrate, how they punish, and yes,
how they mourn. Culture's real in the sense that it
has observable effects on perception, even cognition. For when you

(03:09):
think about this, it is sort of the ever changing
way of making sense when you get up in the morning. Right, So,
like ten years ago, you wouldn't have cared about Kelsey
and Taylor Swift getting married. It wouldn't rate that highly, Okay,

(03:32):
But over time culture builds on culture, and that's what
you have. But here's where it gets a little philosophical.
Is culture an illusion or is it elusive? Culture isn't
a physical object. It's not a construct. I'm sorry. It
is a construct. It's a pattern of shared meaning. I

(03:57):
remember living in southern California and I remember going for
a walk in Simi Valley, which is a place that's
just right over the Ventura County line, and my wife
and I and our kids went for a walk and
we stumbled upon the hall Mark the Hallmark sets for

(04:21):
the movies that you always see the Christmas movies and
the stuff and the there's always the kiss at the
end of the movie and all that sort of stuff.
And when you walk on the property and you look
at those buildings there, they're amazing. I was so amazed
by the power and the prestige of these massive buildings

(04:41):
that are working out there until I looked behind them
and it was really just a facade. It wasn't a building.
It was two by four us propping up the front
of the buildings. So when we sit back here and
we think about the culture, what is the culture? It

(05:03):
can be debated from now until forever. But we know
something that's very important. We know that the culture, the
culture needs to change, and we have the power to
change the actual culture because they have perverted much of
the culture by introducing a whole lot of perverts. Perverting

(05:27):
the culture. Right, you have all kinds of horrific things
that go on, like you just saw yesterday. Culture is
a story that we tell ourselves, introduce new metaphors and
heroes and origin myths and all that sort of stuff.
We can change the culture itself because the one thing

(05:48):
the culture cannot do is walk into your house and
give your kid a gun, give your kid drugs, give
your kid pornography. You can stop that. We can stop that.

(06:09):
And so when you think about the culture and the
degrading stuff that we have had to live through for
the better part of this entire century, the garbage, the
puke that comes into our homes that we tolerate, and
more importantly, more importantly, that we allow to happen. The

(06:35):
way you counter the culture is you become the counter culture.
Nobody nobody says good morning anymore. Nobody says let me
get the door for you. Nobody says thank you very much,
Nobody says how are you today? How can I help you?

(06:57):
Everybody's got their schnas right there on the phone. You
practically walk into closed doors. But the beauty of this
is if enough of us try to do this and
try to put it together. And I'm not saying we're
gonna do it today, and I'm not even gonna say
it's can even be successful. But the fact of the

(07:18):
matter is, stop saying it's just the culture. It's not
the culture. It's laziness. And I'll tell you this right now.
For every action, there is a reaction. You can have
a terrible culture and the payoff is murdered children in

(07:40):
a church. You can also have the power of saying
I am not going to tolerate this any longer. You
can call yourself what you want. But the fact of
the matter is we can see exactly what you are.

(08:01):
That's the challenge. Let them say what they think they are,
but you can tell them exactly who they are by
looking at them. News Talk eleven ten out of nine

(08:23):
three WBT It's the Brettwinerble Show. Get to be with
You seven h four five seven zero eleven ten. All right,
I'm going off the beaten path of what many people
are talking about. Is this so I don't know if
you saw this, but you saw three different top CDC
officials resigning from the CDC, you know, because the CDC

(08:46):
is well, let me put it this way. Regular people
respect the Department of Defense, right, they want to know
that we can defend the country. They want to know
that the border patrol is funded. They want to do
all that kind of stuff. Right. The people on the

(09:07):
left don't care about the Border Patrol ice or the
Department of Justice, I mean the well, the Department of Justice,
or the Department of the Military, right, the DoD the
Department of Defense. They like stuff like CDC, CDC. And

(09:28):
you've got these people who have now quit. And I
want to just pin this up here because I promise
you I'm I'm right. I know I am not wrong
in any way, shape or form. So here's the headlines
from the lefty perspective. New CDC director is fired. White
House says RFK Junior will testify before Senate panel next week.

(09:51):
Senator Murray calls for immediate firing of RFK Junior. Commends
CDC director Monarez's stance for science and public health. Jennifer
ruben Real legit is the Trump regime trying to kill us.

(10:18):
Sophie Gardner in Politico, Monarez would not cross red lines
before she was fired. So you get all that, right,
you get all that they're doing with this sort of thing.
The entire reason why this is happening, the entire reason

(10:39):
for why this was happening, was because they want to
have not just one whistle blower, not two whistleblowers, They
want three whistleblowers so that they can go around and
go one Morning Joe and all the other programs, so
they can go to all those things. They can do

(11:01):
all that stuff, and you know what ends up happening.
They're gonna be the new famous people. The new famous
people are underway. That's what I'm just telling you. That's
what this is. It's the famous people of the Republican Party,
except they weren't Republicans. They're all like Democrats. But they

(11:24):
just go in there and they burrow in and they
try to get in and they do their thing, and
it's because they just want to be famous. Is it? Boom,
full spot, full stop? They just want to be famous.
Let me go to the feed here from Minneapolis where
they're answering questions about what it is that. Okay, we
don't have that. We'll get that at some point later

(11:45):
on in the television the program. They just want they
just want to see people, uh, get get famous. Just
they do this in every sort of way. They do
this in every sort of way. The next person you'll
see is all right, let's head on out and check

(12:07):
in on the briefing coming out of Minneapolis. Deus give
yourself on the one in this government. I'm sorry, my
apologies to the audience. That's not what it is. I
thought we had a feed coming in on this briefing
that's coming out, But apparently the headline over on Fox

(12:31):
News is still have victims seriously injured. So when you
look at the way these folks want to try to
run the government, what they really want is they just
want leakers. They want leakers leaking and leaking on leakers
and all this kind of stuff like that. And so
when you see all the way that these people put

(12:52):
this together, it's really terrible. It's terrible. But what's good
about this is RFK Junior is the boss. He's not
going to get fired. Donald Trump's not going to fire him.
The other doctors are not going to fire him. I
talked with doctor oz on on Monday, and they have
a very good relationship. And doctor oz is not is

(13:15):
not a piker. He's not some kind of a little
weirdo person like that. So the reality is this is
I think this is an important fight to have because
you have a lot of people that still just want
to remain inside the system. But they don't want to
have to deliver the goods, right, they don't want to
deliver the goods here. I can pull any of these

(13:36):
articles here, here's here's here's one of the articles. Okay,
let me give this to you, Sanders. CDC directors firing
is outrageous. Okay, Why why was she fired? How did
it happen? It's outrageous that Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy
Junior is trying to fire the CDC director after only

(13:58):
a few weeks on the job from for her commitment
to public health and vaccines, which ones the Senate Help
Committee must hold a hearing with Kennedy and the CDC
director as soon as possible. Vaccines save lives, period, They
save lives, period, he continued. The White House fired Monarez,

(14:22):
who was sworn in as the CDC director just a
month ago. On Wednesday, after she refused calls from Health
and Human Services, which oversees the agency, to resign, Four
top CDC officials announced their resignations shortly after, including Deb Horry,

(14:43):
who was the agency's chief medical officer and Deputy Director
for Program and Science. Help Committee Chair. So weird that
it's the Help Committee. It sounds like the thing you
call when you need help with your computer. But I
understand what it is. It's the health and all that

(15:04):
sort of stuff. Bill Cassidy, Republican of Louisiana, who hates
Donald Trump, who is also a medical physician, wrote on
a social platform x that the high profile departures will
require the oversight by the Help Committee. Why doesn't Senator
Bill Cassidy go and sit down with Donald Trump and

(15:25):
have a conversation with him because all of the stuff
that goes on in Washington, d C is performative. It
is performative. It is not the sort of thing that
you expect. And tell me, tell me, tell me which
of these people have invented a vaccine or done something

(15:46):
like that. They're just people collecting a check. We got
more on this straight Ahead News Talk eleven ten, not
nine three WBT, it's the Brett Waterbule Show. Good to

(16:06):
be with you seven oh four five seven zero eleven ten.
Taking a look at some of the other stories that
are out there moving I was. I was stunned by
a couple of things that I that I saw earlier
in the day. And one of those things is how
you have people who are not I mean, this is

(16:29):
this is so shocking to me. You have people who
are tolerant of crime, tolerant of crime. Do you have
that clip that I sent to you, Karen Finnie, Karen Finny,
I don't. I don't know what the number is. You
got it right there, Okay. Karen Finny was on CNN
because it's a safe space for liberals, and there was

(16:51):
a question asked about about Donald Trump bringing in the
troops and all this sort of stuff, and she makes
a very weird contention.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Go, well, I think it's about speaking to the concerns
of the American people. Uh.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
And you know, here's what I would say.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
The way people are actually feeling in some places is
they're happy about the fact that crime rates are actually
going down. I've seen it in my own neighborhood, here
in d C. And so so it's really actually about
being smart on crime, and Donald Trump always wants to
make it about tough on crime, and this performative putting

(17:32):
the National Guard, you know, on the streets, many of
us in DC do not feel like that's actually making
us safer.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
For she's she's not making it safer. How is she
not made How is it that there are there are
troops and there are police officers who are on the
streets and they are not making it safer. They are
they are dangerous. I guess right, the cops are dangerous, dangerous,
too dangerous, too dangerous to be in here. I got

(18:01):
Scott Jennings is making an argument for this sort of
stuff they're trying to say to Scott Jennings about the
chaos in the country and all this sort of stuff.
I think it's I think it's a very interesting take
that Scott Jennings has go.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
You had to ask, is why did it happen. I
don't think it happened because of guns. I think it
happened because somebody who was clearly suffering from severe mental illness.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
Had access to That's what allowed them to carry out a.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Terrible and and the mental illness was encouraged.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
But Scott, what about people who don't have mental tip
around this issue?

Speaker 4 (18:41):
And when you look at the messages that were written
in some of the materials and on the weapons that
we've seen, I mean, this person obviously was in a.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Dark, dark places.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
I'm not sure that government is in that person's life
enough to know, but his parents are.

Speaker 6 (18:57):
What about, Scott, what about people who don't have mental illness.
We have a huge gun violence issue here in the
United States need.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
But the issue today is quite obviously mental illness and illness.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
I'm not willing to believe that this this was mental illness.
See people, this is here's a problem. There are people
who are mentally ill and they don't kill anybody. They're
just mentally ill. Maybe they've been abused, whatever it is,
and maybe they've had a break with reality, maybe they've

(19:36):
done things like that. But they love the Left loves
to say that mental illness. This is just mental illness,
there's all this is mental illness. This is mentalness. Hold
on a minute. The Left does not believe evil exists
unless it's in the form of a Republican Okay, they

(19:58):
don't condemn hamas they don't condemn a lot of people
on the left. And so this guy is trying to say,
get rid of the guns. Get rid of the guns. Okay,
we're gonna get rid of every single gun in the
United States of America. Right, hypothetically it would be impossible,
But like, let's just play the game. Because people at
CNN are un serious journalists and are un serious humans,

(20:23):
because the lead on any of this is we want
to protect children. But they have a difficulty with that.
They have a difficulty with that because they run the
risk of seeming to be pro life if you're in
favor of life of children. So what they'll turn to

(20:46):
is mental illness. This is mental illness. No, this is evil.
Like this is straight evil going into a Catholic church
during a mass and shooting one hundred and fifty rounds.
That that is not mental illness. That is a disordered demon.
That dude was a demon and he was aided in

(21:11):
that cause by the worst instincts that humans can have.
And by the way, if they want to be technical, right,
because the left loves to be technical, it's mental illness. Okay,
so let's be technical. Is it the gun that kills
the people or the bullets that kill the people. The
bullets are the things that kill the people. Right. But

(21:33):
they want to just sit back and say this is
mental illness. Is just mental illness. Why are you saying
that this is mental illness. We know what mental illness
looks like. I can tell you what mental illness looks like.
Look at what happened on the light rail. That guy
was hearing things, that guy was calling the cops, that
guy was doing all kinds of stuff. You could make
an argument if I guess and say, well, that's mental illness,

(21:58):
that's mental illness. These people, these people are sitting here
going we have to get rid of the guns. Okay,
so we get rid of all the guns, will there
still be homicides? Absolutely? Probably more? Probably more? And so
this is the challenge that is happening here. People on

(22:19):
the left do not ever, ever, ever want to judge
except for Republicans and Donald Trump and Milannia Trump and JD.
Vance and other Republicans. They will judge them all day long,
but they will not judge the motives of the fallen
the fallen leftists. This person, by the way, all you

(22:42):
have to do is go to the New York Post.
This person whose name I will not utter, period, full stop.
He had regret. He had regret for being trans. It's
in the New York Post, clear as day, plain his day.
He wrote it in his manifesto. He wrote it in

(23:06):
the manifesto, and he said he regretted being trans, but
he still went out and murdered children. But it's the
gun's fault. It's the gun's fault. So when a drunk
gets behind the wheel of a car, is it the

(23:29):
car's fault or is it the drunk's fault. See, this
is the sort of stuff that people don't want to
talk about because it doesn't feel comfortable to defend the indefensible.
So they just like to I live in Reelville. Most

(23:53):
of you live in Reelville, and I'm glad we live
in Relville. But we have to call out the evil
when the evil is present, and he is a very,
very present thing at this stage of the game. So

(24:13):
the FBI director has called the Minneapolis school shooting barbaric
domestic terrorism with anti religious motives. Now imagine if that
was endorsed, that that conclusion was endorsed by the entire country,
how the changes could be made. FBI Director Cash Patel

(24:35):
said the shooter who opened fire in a barbaric attack
on a Catholic school mass in Minneapolis left anti multiple
anti religious references in his manifestoing on his firearms. Patel
provided the update in a post on x saying, as
we continue to investigate yesterday's barbaric attack from the person,

(24:58):
I'm not going to mention the male subject, Our teams
have gathered information and evidence demonstrating that this was a
domestic terrorism motivated, hate filled ideology. Now I have a question,
and if you want to answer it, you can answer it.
If you don't want to answer it, you don't have

(25:19):
to answer it. Isn't it interesting we go back in
time and we think for a moment about the attempt
to murder Donald Trump, The attempt to murder Donald Trump
in Butler, Pennsylvania. Everybody remembers that, right. Do you remember

(25:41):
the tragic interview that the parents of Cooks gave to
the press. Do you guys remember that? I mean, it
was absolutely just I sit back here and I think
about that sit down interview, that interview talking about why

(26:03):
their son, however old he was in nineteen twenty whatever
it was, and why he wanted to kill Donald Trump.
You guys remember all that? Do you remember all that? No,
you don't remember that because it never happened. The press
did not go and ask and stake out on the
front lawn of that house why it was that person

(26:26):
tried to kill Donald Trump. This guy had a mom,
and I'm not blaming the mom whatever, But why are
we not seeing stakouts on the front lawn to find
out she would know, she would know what her precious
son was doing. Right? Why did we not have the

(26:48):
answers in that regard? Did you just see what they
did to the people who went walking into the capitol
back in twenty twenty one, they'd practice, he took bulldozers
and knocked down people's houses. I mean, do you guys
remember all that? It was every day. Oh, this guy

(27:09):
just got arrested, that one just got arrested. This person
just got arrested. Look at that. This woman was shot
right there by the cop because it was danger Why
is that the case? Why do we not have information
about because this is gonna go down I'm telling you

(27:30):
this right now. This is gonna go down the memory hole.
And you want to know why, Because because it's a
Christian group of people that was targeted. It's because they're Christian.
I don't wish this on anybody, but my gosh, I guess,
you know, well, maybe they should have and maybe they

(27:53):
shouldn't have, and maybe this and maybe that and all
that sort of stuff. Right, isn't that incredible? Isn't that incredible?
Give me the clip the first clip I sent you today.
Give me the clip of the woman yelling and screaming.
She said, Nebraska. She's a Nebraska senator, not a federal senator.
She's a senator in the state of Nebraska. And listen
to this. Listen to this incantation she's doing on the

(28:14):
floor of the Nebraska Senate. Go all right, you could stop,
because that goes on for about seven minutes. She's totally
in her right mind. Clearly, she's just totally in the
right mind, she says, yelling and screaming and bouncing around.

(28:39):
Give me, give me the give me the other one.
Give me the one from the lieutenant governor of Yes,
the lieutenant governor of minneappl of Minnesota. You see. Okay,
here's here's another one. This, this is this is a
person who is in the second in charge next to Walls.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Go, because let's be clear, this is life of and
life saving healthcare.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
When our children tell us who they.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Are, it is our job as grown ups to listen
and to believe them.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
All right, stop right there? You have a kid. You
have a kid. I got kids. When when little Charlie
walks up to you age two, age four and says,
I'm going to be an astronaut. Take me to NASA

(29:40):
now so I can get into the astronaut program. Are you, tay,
are you putting them in the cart at nine o'clock
at night? I'm going to encourage it. You're gonna encourage it.
But are you gonna put him in the car? No,
you're gonna You're not gonna send them over there with
just you know, with whatever he's got on. No, Okay,
exactly right right, because what because that that kid doesn't

(30:02):
know what they're saying. Really, the fact of the matter
is we have to believe and do everything that the
kids tell us to do. Well, where was that standard
back in the nineteen eighties for Winter Bowl here? Because
I could have just said to my dad, Dad, get
me a give me a thirty pack of stroves. Okay,

(30:24):
that's an homage to that's an homage to Kid Rock.
But I mean the fact of the matter is, Dad,
you know what I need? Can you? Can you get
me a I need a case of a case of
something something something because we're gonna go have a party.
My dad would be like, really, where I want to

(30:45):
call the cops and have you all arrested? I mean
I would not, Dad, Can I get could you just
could listen? Just give me a give me a keg?
I just could you buy a keg for me? I
know I'm under age, but I just want a keg.
Just give me a keg. I just want to a
keg of everclear, that's all I need. No, really, it's
because we're gonna We're gonna but these people, that's not

(31:09):
how you run the situation. You don't go, well, okay,
of course you're allowed to do that sort of thing.
That's wonderful. Yes, indeed, yes, yes, go ahead and do that.
Because we have to say and agree with everything that
the kid says. It doesn't make any sense. It's just unbelievable.
But it's totally believable. You know why, because everything goes,

(31:31):
and when everything goes, everything goes, and that's not the
way to discipline your kid. It's not the way to
discipline the kid. Some point, at some time, for some reason,
this person decided they were going to affirmatively go and

(31:56):
murder innocent people at a church and just sit back
and you say, how did that come into your mind?
How did that happen? It's about the roots of of
all of this. When everything goes, everything goes. News Talk

(32:43):
eleven ten, not nine three WBT. It's the Brettwinterer Bowl Show.
It's good to be with you breaking down all the
different stories that are out there happening. Oh boy, there.
They're trying to shut down the Alligator Alcatraz detention facility.
It's gonna be empty within a few days. That's what
the demand was. They people saying, Okay, you can't stay here,

(33:03):
not allowed to stay here, can't be there, you know
in the Alligator Alcatraz, the immigration detention center in Florida's
Ever Glades that officials have dubbed Alligator Alcatraz soon will
hold no detainees. In an email sent to a South

(33:24):
Florida rabbi inquiring about serving as a chaplain at the facility,
the director of the Florida Department of Emergency management, Kevin
Guthrie replied, we are probably going to be down to
zero individuals right within a few days. Asked Wednesday about

(33:44):
the declining population at the detention center, Florida Governor Ron
De Santis said, I do not think.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
No.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
I do think they've increased the pace of removals from there.
In a ruling issued last week, US District Judge Kathleen
Williams ordered Florida and the Trump administration to stop bringing
in new detainees to the facility and wind down the

(34:12):
operation within sixty days. How come they didn't do that
at GITMO. Why didn't this judge do that at GIMO.
The judge issued the preliminary injunction in response to a
lawsuit filed by two environmental groups and the Mikosuke tribe.

(34:37):
In a declaration filed in the case last week, US
Congressman Maxwell Frost said on a tour he was told
the current population was between three hundred and three hundred
and fifty. On a whiteboard listing the number of detainees

(34:57):
at the time of his tour, he said, three hundred
and thirty six was written. So they're emptying, they're sending
people out. How about that? Maxwell Frost. Where is ninety nine?
Since then, Eve Samples? What a great name. I have

(35:20):
never heard anybody named Eve Samples. It asks you, basically
in your mind the next word, Eve's Samples? What I
don't know? Eve's Samples, executive director of I can't believe
this is an organization Friends of the Everglades. So Eve

(35:46):
Samples is the executive director of Friends of the Everglades, says.
Volunteers monitoring the site have seen at least three buses
containing detainees leaving the facility. That's good. It's a relief
that the state appears to be phasing detainees. No, to

(36:10):
be phasing out operations in compliance with the judge's order.
They say Donald Trump doesn't follow the law. He's following
it to the letter of the law. Here they're getting
these people out. When the last detainee leaves, the state
should turn off the lights and shut the door behind them.

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Because it's not an appropriate place for a detention center.
Where is it, Eve Samples? Where is an appropriate place
for a detention center? Where do you want to put it?
Anywhere you want to go? In her order, Judge Williams
said the plaintiffs had shown the hasty construction appeared to

(36:57):
violate federal law requiring public input, consideration of alternatives, and
an environmental impact statement. Florida and the Trump administration have
appealed the decision and are asking the US Court of
Appeals for the Eleventh District to stay the lower courts

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in junction. Florida built the detention center at a lightly
used training and transition airport in the heart of the Everglades.
The state says it is expecting to spend more than
four hundred million dollars to build and operate the facility.

(37:45):
So far, records show that DeSantis has signed contracts to
spend about two hundred and forty five million dollars on
the detention centre. You see, you see that's not an overrun,
that's an underrun. That's that's him saying they're supposed to
spend four hundred million. I'm only spending two forty five.
I'm saving you guys money. He said that the decision

(38:07):
to stop housing detainees there, at least temporarily, was made
by the federal immigration authorities. We don't determine who goes
into the facility, he said. There's litigation going on that
DHS is a party two. So DHS says they're moving
detainees to other facilities to comply with the judge's order.

(38:28):
But in a statement, a DHS spokesperson said, this activist
judge doesn't care about the invasion of our country facilitated
by the Biden administration. But the American people sure do.
We have the law, the facts, and the common sense
on our side. So there you go, big stuff. So

(38:51):
they're shutting it down. Now. The big question that you
know is gonna come next is where are those people going.
They're not doing catch and release, so they've got to
be putting them someplace else. They've got to be moving them,
and I don't know where that would be. There are facilities,

(39:12):
I mean, they're they're building a big facility out at
Fort Bliss, I mean a massive facility in Fort Bliss.
There's a number of other facilities that are that are
available for this sort of stuff as well. But you know,
when you when you look at this and you say, okay,
what what's the what's the direction? How do we do this?
How is this happening? Now, that's a it's a it's
a difficult it's a difficult thing to take a look

(39:35):
at Brian. Welcome to the show. What's on your mind? Brian? Brian,
Ladies and gentlemen, we have no Brian. I want to
take a moment. News Talk eleven ten not nine three

(40:02):
WBT Brettwinable show. You guys remember the story from last week.
It just seems to have just disappeared. The Bolton probe
John Bolton. Yeah, John Bolton. At least one dimension of
the federal investigation of former Trump national security advisor John
Bolton focuses on personal emails of his that were obtained

(40:27):
by a federal government spy agency that's not supposed to
happen with those personal emails said to have contained classified information. Ooh,
this is a problem. It's a serious problem, because how

(40:47):
would they get access to classified information from John Bolton,
who is not supposed to have classified information of any kind?
Last night checked he was not the President of the
United States. Those personal emails contained classified information. The New

(41:12):
York Times had reported, citing unnamed people familiar with the probe.
I would just once love to see an article where
they actually out the person who was talking to the reporter.
So it's like, so it's like citing Bob Jackson, who

(41:34):
is the guy who knows what's going on. That would
be so great. You would just burn so many people.
It would be just really, it would be kind of
funny in a way. The investigation gained steam during the
Biden administration and quietly brewed before culminating in last week's
FBI raid on his Bethesda, Maryland home. During Biden's term,

(41:58):
the US government found that an adversarial government spy agency
had come into possession of emails that Bolton appeared to
have sent to close associates using an unclassified delivery method.
The emails seem to include information that Bolton had learned

(42:20):
from classified documents, and that he was sending the emails
to various people who were helping him gather information for
use in his twenty twenty memoir, Hey you got any
classified stuff that I can put in my book? I
promise I won't give you up Godlee. As Bolton's book
was about to be released, the Trump administration sued to

(42:42):
delay the publishing. Around the same time, the Justice Department
started a criminal probe to determine if Bolton had mishandled
classified information and revelations in the book. The Times source
said that the search of Bolton's home was aimed at
determining if he had any material in his possession that

(43:04):
confirmed the authenticity of the emails. Rand Paul put this
out on the X. John Bolton has done a lot
of damage to the life, liberty, and treasure of so
many Americans. If he is also found to have broken
the law regarding national security, it will be some form

(43:25):
of justice for the evil he has perpetrated over the years.
He doesn't like, you know, Rand Paul doesn't like the
War Party. He doesn't want the War Party. And the
War Party is on both sides. I mean, you have
War Party people who are Republicans, you have War Party
people who are Democrats. Once upon a time, John Bolton

(43:45):
was I mean he really, it was incredible. He was
one of the bigs. He was one of the biggs
of the Republican end of things. I met him exactly
one time. It was with Michael Reagan, the former president's son,
and we were at an event and John Bolton came

(44:05):
walking up to us and I have to say it,
I mean, I really, I have to say it. That
mustache of his is magnificent. It is I have not
seen a mustache like that since about eighteen sixty five.
I mean, it's just one of I mean, I wasn't
there in eighteen sixty five, but he just had it's

(44:28):
just this big furry thing over him. I mean, it's
it's no why would you ask me that question. I
don't think that that's where he hid his documents. I
don't think he hid the documents in his mustache. Come on, now,
that's not nice. This is a man who may be
standing tall before the man at some point after the

(44:50):
warrant was served at Bolton's home. No, I don't think
the mustache stays at the house when he goes out
of town. I don't know. We'll have to look into that.
President Trump disclaimed any knowledge of the investigation. He did, however,
share his disdain for Bolton, whom he'd hired despite prescient

(45:11):
warnings from people like Rand Paul. Remember Donald Trump famously
roasted Rand Paul during a debate. If you go back
to the twenty sixteen campaign, I can remember this moment
crystal clear. Rand Paul tries to take a shot at
Donald Trump, and Donald Trump says to Rand Paul, look

(45:31):
at you. You're all the way on the end of
the line. You're practically off the stage. I don't have
to answer your question. That's vintage Trump. So when Rand Paul,
it's interesting because Rand Paul is now like, okay, they're
in their kind of good graces. Rand Paul said, I

(45:52):
don't know about it. I saw it on tell Oh no,
this is Trump. I don't know about it. I saw
it on television this morning. I'm not a fan of
John Bolton. He's a real sort of low life with
an incredible mustache. I know nothing about it. Oh now
it's I know nothing. I see nothing. I I tell
Attorney General Pam Bondi and I tell the group, I

(46:13):
don't want to know about it. You do what you
have to do. So he's got he's got Abbie Lowell.
Abby Lowell is defending Think about this. It's very interesting.
Abby Lowell is defending Bolton. Okay, you know who else.
He's defending, Letitia James and the Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook.

(46:40):
I knew it. See I knew a long time ago
that if you if you contract with Hunter Biden, right
because he was he was Hunter Biden's lawyer for a minute,
you can only go up from Hunter Biden. Man. I
mean you're going up from Hunter. You had Hunter Biden
and then you did a triple parlay here. How about

(47:04):
this triple parlay of Latitia James, the Federal Reserve Governor,
Lisa Cook and John Bolton. Who to thunk it? I mean,
you're talking about a very very interesting grouping of people.
I mean, what's left? What's left? Pop the champagne. I

(47:26):
told you all you had to do was enlist Hunter
Biden for the purposes of raising your profile. And now
who knows, who knows who comes next and where and how.
I'm very curious about this News Talk eleven tennut of

(47:57):
nine three WBT. It is the Brettwinerval Show. To be
with you as we continue to soldier on and look
at all the big stories that are out there happening
and all that sort of stuff. Let's go out and
talk to Mike. Mike, welcome to the program. What's on
your mind?

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Thanks gre for taking my Paul.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
I hope you've been well, Yeah, sure, definitely, yes, Indeed.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
I've enjoyed some of the discussion about this horrible shooting
in Minneapolis and listening to a lot of it earlier
today and wanted to kind of discuss and get your
thoughts on so many tangible things that we as Americans
might do about mass shootings and about dune deaths as

(48:41):
a whole, because you know, you know, we're all ride
about forty five thousand done deaths a year, all right,
and only a small fraction of those. Really the mass shootings,
as bad as those are, and as much attention as
they get, and so you know, there's lots of reasons.

(49:04):
There's lots of people discussed different things as see you
know why that occurs and what the solutions might be.
But what's clear is, you know, we're using more Americans
per month by a thousand or so, then we're lost
in nine to eleven. So we are doing to ourselves

(49:25):
each and every month worse than any terrorist has been
able to accomplish by far. And so part of the reason,
you know, I wanted to call and maybe engage in
some things is to maybe dispels some mes, but then
also maybe think of some things that we can do.
Because two years ago, on a biparsion basis, Republicans and

(49:47):
Democrats came together and did that. I think it was
called Sacred Communities Act. The present Biden find in the
law that increased some of the red flag laws. That
also cut down on something of what they call it
voice plan exception, there's other things. It didn't take anybody's hunting,
wife was away, didn't ban automatic weapons anybody like that.

(50:08):
But it made some some some differences. And I'm hoping
that the horrible thing that happened yesterday in Minneapolis, my.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Help was all, what was what was what was that?
What was that thing? What would you describe that thing as?

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Uh, you're talking about the law they're talking about yesterday yesterday?

Speaker 1 (50:28):
What would you what would you what would you describe
that as?

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Oh? I mean, it's a horrendous you know, Mark again,
mass shooting at an American school.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
No, it's here's here's here's here's yeah, here, here's the
here's the problem. There, here's the problem. And I don't
blame you. You got blinders on about this. That was
a hate crime targeting I don't. I don't that that
was a hate crime targeting Catholics. Mm hm, So so

(51:04):
why should the Catholics give up their guns? I'm not
saying who should?

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Then?

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Who should? Who should? Who should? Who should? Who should?
Who should get their guns taken?

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Mike, Well, people have the type of little problems that
this well if like who what was the guy's named
South Charleston. I don't even want to say his name,
but the young guy in a racial hate crime and
shot the people at Mother e Manuel.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yes, of course, of course, of course, of course. But
I thought we had hate crime legislation that was pushed
by progressives, right, I mean it was this is but
but but yet when you called, you just describe it
as well, that that shooting that thing. Now, this is
a very specific thing that happened yesterday, and it's it's,

(51:53):
it's it's and that is that is where we have
got if we can't acknowledge that out of the box.
And I know, look, you're probably watching a lot of MSNBC.
They don't seem to like, uh, Catholics. Uh, you're probably
watching a lot of CNN. They don't. You know, they're
they're not they're not very big on on on the
Catholics and people of faith. But until people understand that

(52:17):
people have a right to go to churches, mosques, temples, uh,
you know this, this is something that was perpetrated by
somebody who who was irroup just just did not care

(52:40):
a wit about any of this about any of this,
and in his and in his manifest his manifesto. In
his manifesto, he said he regretted going trance. So where
is the commune unity?

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Where?

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Where where are the communities in Where are the communities
in Minneapolis? Where's the trans communities in Minneapolis coming and
offering condolences like Mike Walls or any of those people.
Why why are they not showing up and and and

(53:21):
and saying this is not acceptable? I don't see people
doing that because because there's there is a two system
tier of faith in America. Mm hmm, I mean that's
what I is. No, but you went to the guns.
You're going to the guns. You're going to the wrong thing. Man.
You've got to fix the culture. And you're a smart guy.

(53:43):
You could figure out how to fix the culture. You
could you could have you could meet with progressives, You
could go over to the to the progressive radio stations
and say, listen, we have to we have to stop
going after Catholics. We have to stop going after people
of faith. We have to stop going after these folks.
It's not the gun, it's it's the people who hate
who hate the other people.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
So what what What's the Bible. We're like, say, we're
telling each other at a way of forty five thousand issues.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Stop killing people, stop killing people, Tell tell, tell the thugs,
tell the thugs to stop killing people or lock them up. Okay,
well what else could it? What else could you do?

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Well?

Speaker 1 (54:24):
You want to you want to go and grab everybody's gun.
I mean you can, you can do it.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
And I think that's part of the problem is you can't.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
I know, it's such a it's such a shame. It's
such a shame that that not within forty eight hours, Mike,
that we have to get onto the politicking of this. Mike.
You don't even have the bodies in the ground yet, Mike.
This is this is the Oh sure, the big What

(54:52):
kind of a solution? Yeah, what kind of a solution
are you looking for?

Speaker 2 (54:55):
That's That's what I'm asking, is this. I just I
just told you how would make it harder? Because it
did that horrible thing, Issa, I make it harder for
them to get the type of weapons.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
I don't know, because I'm not a criminal. I don't
I don't know because I'm not a criminal. You know,
you know criminals probably right, you've dealt with criminals, maybe
in a pro bono I'm not listening to it. Listen
to me. You know, criminals, You've probably pro bono people
over the course of period period of time. Right, I'm
not I'm not dissing you. I'm just saying you. You're

(55:27):
in the legal system. So why don't you go talk
to some of the crooks and the criminals and ask
them how you stop this?

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Well, it's awfully easy for them to get these weapons,
and my question is what needy to make it harder.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
We can get rid of every gun in America? How
about that? Would that be good? Okay? See, then you
don't want to fix the problem. You don't want to
fix the problem, Mike. You don't want to You want
to call up and you want to try to get razzle,
dazzle and all this. This is why, this is why
I knew. I knew exactly the road you were going
to go down on this There the bodies are not

(56:03):
even in the ground, Mike. I mean, I got Brian
on hold and he's saying, when did the shooters say
he hated Catholics when he shot him? Brian, You're pathetic, Brian,
you are pathetic. Mike. I like you, Mike, I like
I like you, Mike. I like you, Mike. Okay, and
I and I'll say it publicly, there's people that don't

(56:25):
necessarily like you and I like you. But the bodies
aren't in the ground yet, and you want to go
grab guns. Okay, so go grab guns, dude, Fine.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Go do that that to me. Things that I'm not saying.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Yes, you just said you didn't want any more guns.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
I'm looked at the solution. I'm going to continue to
call if you'll let me, and maybe you're going.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
I never stopped that. I've never I've never stopped you
from calling. You hide from you hide, you hide from me, Okay,
you hide from me, and you shouldn't have to hide
from me. Everything's just a conversation, unless, of course, you
know we've got we've got, we've got you know, we've
got something we gotta do. All Right. I appreciate the call.
It was very entertaining. Brian, No, thank you, Sorry, buddy.

(57:08):
That's just how it's gonna be. News Talk eleven ten,
not nine three w b T. All Right, I gotta

(57:29):
I gotta do this because you know this is this
is sort of a tradition that I that I that
I like to do. Uh, And it's the stuff where
we warn you about stuff you should not do. Okay, No,
it's not that topic. That that topic I will talk
about at some other point, but I'm not gonna do
it today because I need to couch that appropriately. Yeah,

(57:56):
So what month is this? August? How many rs are
in August? Okay, September, October, November, December, January, February, March, April.

(58:19):
Then you hit May and then you're not supposed to
do this during the summer. Do you know what I'm
talking about? Oysters? Oysters? This is so bad. I love
oysters like, I will eat them. I will eat them.
I will not eat the shell obviously, But we now

(58:41):
have two more people have passed away because of contaminated oysters.
And this is this is like it's just the hebgb's
here and you just go, oh, contaminated oysters spread fatal
Oh anyway, hold, I say, okay, the contaminated oysters spread

(59:06):
fatal flesh eating bacteria in two states. So it's not
like you just ate bad oysters and you ended up
in the hospital. This is flesh eating bacteria. Remember we
talked about this like about two three weeks ago, two
people died after eating oysters from Louisiana infected with a

(59:29):
flesh eating bacteria. State health officials and fourteen others were
also infected by the Vibrio vilnukus vulnificus. The Vibrio nificus
a serious bacterial infection after eating oysters. So far this year,

(59:51):
it's caused thirty four infections and six deaths, the highest
total that Louisiana has seen in the past last decade.
So here's what they're saying. They're saying, stay out, stay
out of brackish or salt water. If you have a

(01:00:11):
wound and that includes cuts and scrapes, or you have
to cover your wound with a waterproof bandage. You have
to wash wounds thoroughly with soap and water if they've
been exposed to brackish or soft or salt water or
raw seafood or raw seafood juices. No, I'm not going

(01:00:37):
near the raw seafood juices. And so what ends up
happening is if it's undercooked seafood, especially if you have
a weakened immune system, you're pregnant, or you've got certain
medical conditions like liver or stomach disorders. You can't be
going and doing all this stuff. And this is I mean,
this is like unbelievably dangerous. This is not something that

(01:01:01):
that I'm not joking about. I'm not you know, any
of that. Just please be careful, especially with all that's
going on. There are all these really weird We talked
about what have we talked? We talked about the plague
a couple of a couple of last week. There's a
bunch of stuff that's out there, Legionnaire's diseases out there. Now,

(01:01:22):
what's going on with this? It's no good. And then
we found out that Charlotte County, Charlotte County, this is
down in Punta Gorda, So this is not here, but
it's Charlotte County is issuing rabies alerts after a confirmed

(01:01:43):
case from a raccoon. Stop it. This is why I
believe the safest place to live is a beautiful blacktop
sort of situation where you don't have anything that you
can come into contact that's nature. Okay, like I've been

(01:02:07):
watching in Fort Mill. Okay, nobody, nobody should hear this,
especially if you're in Fort Mill. They have put in
a brand new parking lot where there used to be
a Hearty's in Fort Mill. I swear it's like a
year and a half to put down the asphalt. I
don't know what this is, but you know what, when

(01:02:27):
push comes to shove, I'm not gonna go into the water.
I'm gonna go sit in the parking lot. I'll be safe.
There's talk eleven ten ninety nine to three WBT. It's

(01:02:50):
the Brett Water Bowl Show. It is great to be
with you here today. As we Solderana move on to
a bunch of great stories coming forward. By the way,
Don Brown is going to be joining us. He's a
candidate for the Senate seat being vacated by the by
the North Carolina current senator, and we're going to certainly

(01:03:13):
have a very good conversation. I'm excited about this all
the way around. Cracker Barrel, Cracker Barrel is still in
the news. I'll share that with you as well. Tesla
suffered a forty percent drop in European sales because China
is using their BYD technology cars to surge. There's a

(01:03:37):
lot of stuff going on around here as we as
we take this journey, let's go to this though, all right,
Minnesota Democrats cheered and funded transgenderism before the mass shooting
that took place yesterday. Minnesota Democrats have aggressively championed transgender

(01:03:59):
advocate SEE, but are now running away from their role
in promoting the alienated young man's lifestyle that led to
him shooting Catholic school kids. In a twisted, handwritten journal
that he shared on YouTube before the massacre, this character
groaned about his long hair and his decision to transition

(01:04:24):
to his claimed transgender status. The New York Post reported
on August the twenty eighth, that would be today. Quote.
I only keep the long hair because it's pretty much
my last shred of being trans. I am tired of
being trans, he said. I wish I never brainwashed myself,

(01:04:46):
he wrote, according to a translation by the Post, I
can't cut my hair now. It would be an embarrassing defeat.
He wrote. I can't really put my finger on a
specific purpose for the ca telling, the shooter admitted in
his diary. According to The New York Post, it definitely

(01:05:06):
won't be for racism or white supremacy. The writings suggested
that the twenty three year old shooter never formed a
stable personality amid the cheerleading by Democrats and their nonprofits.
This is Breitbart writing this comment and also by his

(01:05:26):
family for Civic diversity and transgenderism. Transgender activists say the
government must help youths change their legal sex definition via
the invented concept of gender identity. As they're talking about
the ideology also demands that government impose those individuals narcissistic

(01:05:52):
choices on everyone else in their community, despite Americans knowing
that it's impossible to actually change your biological sex. In
the video before the attack, the gunman pushed a chaotic
jumble of justifications for shooting these children. And I hope
people are listening to this because this is not about

(01:06:14):
the gun. It's about the evil that took the gun
and killed innocent kids. I think it's very clear in
his video before the attack, the gunman pushed a chaotic
jumble of justifications for shooting the children, including espousing anti semitism,

(01:06:37):
support for transgenderism, and hate for Donald Trump. So the Democrats' contribution,
their political and cultural advocacy for the destabilizing experiment of
teenage transgenderism, is impossible to hide. This is a piece
by Neil Monroe, who points that out the state legislature

(01:07:04):
and Governor Tim Walls deliberately blurred the obvious distinction between
the two sexes when he ordered tampons placed in boys' bathrooms.
That boundary breaking act in twenty twenty three earned him
the nickname tampon Tim from President Donald Trump in twenty
twenty four. In twenty twenty four, Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan

(01:07:27):
you heard her earlier today, spoke with Walls wearing a
T shirt that displayed a knife, like a k bar knife,
the sort that was utilized. If you look at that knife,
it's the sort that was utilized by Coburger, for example.

(01:07:48):
She had a shirt on with that depicting that knife
along with the slogan protect trans Kids, and underneath you
see the like a flower underneath it. The States elite

(01:08:09):
encouraged teenagers to physically modify their minds and bodies with
irreversible surgeries, hormones, and cross dressing. A transgender rights fact
sheet issued in June this past June by the state
attorneys General listed how the state enforces and supports the

(01:08:32):
transgender demand to be treated as if they were members
of the opposite sex. It describes how psychiatrists and psychologists
are barred from contesting teenagers' claims about their gender. Psychiatrists
and psychologists are prohibited from even pushing back those are experts,

(01:09:02):
prohibiting mental health professionals from engaging in conversion therapy with
clients under eighteen years of age. The state's Democratic legislators
also funded a plethora of pro transgender groups in schools
and communities. In May, a pro transgender group boasted quote,

(01:09:27):
the Minnesota legislature has vowed to appropriate one million dollars
to p Fund Foundation so it can fund training and
education for medical professionals so they can engage in gender
affirming care and support trans and gender expansive services throughout Minnesota. So,

(01:09:52):
how many people do you think in the United States
happens to be happened to be transgender? Anybody have a
guess on this? How many people identify or claim to
be transgender in the United States? I can give you
the number. And this number is going to really cause

(01:10:16):
you to say, what two point eight million? Two point
eight million aged thirteen and older identify as transgender? Now
just for comparison, and I know there could be an overlaw,
an overflow in this regard. One of the things, you know.

(01:10:43):
One of the things that I'm looking up here real
quick because I want to make sure that this is right.
So I just told you, how many did I tell you?
For transgender? Two point eight million? Two point eight million.
As of late March twenty twenty five, there are approximately
one point three to two million active duty service members

(01:11:04):
in the US military. So you always think like the
military is like a huge, a huge thing, right. You
got Army, Navy, Air Force, Space Force, all this sort
of stuff. US Army has the largest active duty groups,
got Space Force, you got Coast Guard, and you could
throw that in there if you want. But Army, Navy,

(01:11:25):
Air Force, Marine, Space Force, and Coast Guard one point
three to two million people young people who identify as
transgender two point eight million. That's interesting, isn't it? And
I'll bet you it's gonna go up. It's gonna go up.

(01:11:55):
News Talk eleven ten, not a nine to three WBT.
It is the Brettwinterable Show. It's good to be with you,
seven o four five seven zero eleven ten. Checking in
with a couple of other things that are happening. Paul
Krugman's got this piece, why aren't markets freaking out? Well,
what's there to freak out about? Seriously, what is there?

(01:12:17):
Why would you want to freak out about the economy?
Is the economy is how's your economy? I mean, it's
a pretty straightforward question. How is your economy? How are
you feeling, how are you dealing? How are you processing this? Look,
all I can tell you is I bought gasoline coming

(01:12:41):
back from the swamp. I bought gasoline, and I gotta
tell you I paid at one pump. You ready for this?
This was a shocker. This was a shocker. I paid
two thirty two thirty. If I had the jugs, I

(01:13:04):
would have filled them up and put them in the back.
But that's really illegal. I would never do that. That's
a that's a that's a farce. I'm I'm I'm I'm
being farcical, okay, And that regred, No, that's not some
kind of an ice cream cone. It was a farcical
But the fact of the matter is two thirty two
dollars thirty cents for gas. I wish I had a

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bigger car so I could put more gas. You know,
my son's got one of those pickups, nineteen ninety five pickup.
You know what he's got two tanks, and I'm like, dang,
I should have taken that truck up to DC and
we could have filled that thing up and still have
room for more. But that's uh, that's that's what. That's

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what's happening here. You know, you look at all this stuff.
I think it's I think people are feeling pretty good.
I don't understand the people who don't want to feel
safer like that. That to me is just an atrocity.
I want everybody to be safe. I don't care what
I don't care what your politics are like. I don't

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look at people and go ooh, I hope bad things
happen to those people. No way. I want every American
to be prosperous. I want everybody to succeed. I think
that's awesome. I don't want to see a country where
you've just got a whole bunch of people who are
resenting each other because they don't like the way the
other person voted. Guess what, at some point, the whole
thing will go in a different direction. And at some point,

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you know, you'll be sitting there and you'll say, I
knew we could finally put Gavin Newsom into the Oval
office and where is Vice President Hunter? No? Stop it
seven four five, seven eleven ten. Let's go out and
talk to Stan. Stan, welcome to the program.

Speaker 7 (01:14:46):
Okay, we got coming up, and we got playoff for
racing starting, We've got the football starting in college ampro.
So I got three questions for you. Yes, first, Dallas
and Philadelphia? And how do you see the Cowboys doing this?
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
I'm I am. I am avoiding the Dallas Cowboys like
like like I like I've never done before they I
have finally, I have finally come to terms that Jerry
Jones is not a serious owner and Micah Parsons just

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went to the Packers. So there you go. That's all
you gotta know. Man, that's all you gotta go.

Speaker 7 (01:15:30):
So are you jumping ship? And so?

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Uh you know what, I'll say this, honestly, I'll watch
the you know where we do the whip around there?
What is that thing called the red zone? I'll watch
I'll watch that. But I'm I'm actually I never went
to a I never went to a college that had
a program, you know, a football program. So I just
I enjoy the college the college games, and I'm going

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to enjoy the programs and I'm just whenever the Dallas
Cowboys are on TV, I'm gonna put electrical tape covering
them up, so I don't see that.

Speaker 7 (01:16:06):
Okay, racing next, col Busch is last year he hang around.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Uh, it's he's got to go. It's just over. It's look,
the world is changing and we have to change with it.
And I think that's you know, that's that's one of
the things that that that has to go. I I
never you know, I was a Kurt Busch fan, and
I when he stopped, then I kind of stopped kind
of rooting for anybody again. I'll be a spectator generally speaking.

Speaker 7 (01:16:36):
Okay, now my last question, this will be a loaded one,
Bill Belichick. How do you see this playing out?

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Bill Belichick? Oh, by the way, let me give you
the stature. Cowboys traded Micah Parsons to the Packers for
two first round picks, defensive lineman Kenny Clark, an all
Pro defensive end uh, signing a one hundred and eighty
eight million dollars deal. So that that's that's what ended
up happening with the Cowboys and Michael Parsons. And you

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know that when they play he's just gonna go go
right for right, for Dak Prescott. You just know what
what's gonna happen. So that final question was was what.

Speaker 7 (01:17:15):
Bill Belichick and the Tar Hills. How do you see
that playing now? As he goes.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
I hope he I hope he's I hope he's successful.
All right, I hope he's successful. I hope we get
to see more college coaches coaching. I'm sorry, more college
coaching from from I Look, wouldn't it be cool to
see Bill Belichick match up with Nick Saban? Wouldn't that
be wouldn't that be great? I want somebody to go

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out and bring me Ed Orzon. Somebody's gotta sign ed
orgeron Man. That guy is a party in a box,
and that's I want. I want someone to go get him.

Speaker 7 (01:17:59):
Enjoy your show as we'll talk about the money.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Yeah, you got it, absolutely, Stan. I mean, I look,
I could lie, I could lie and say that. I
it's just it's the moment, the moment that broke me,
and I don't, by the way, don't send me a
message on the text like hey, you're a jerk because
you're like that. You you root for Dallas, we root
for the Panthers. I love that you root for the panthers.

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Root for the panthers. I like the Panthers. I'm very
free right now. But I get those I get those
text messages. Who cares about the Kelboys? Stan asked me.
I had to give him an answer. Here's the deal,
here's the deal. I think. I just want to see
everybody do well.

Speaker 8 (01:18:44):
No, come on, you should have killed me for that one.
You should have just hit the button and said the
show has been killed. See see, Yeah, Lottie's a little
slow on the move. He's a little slow on the
move right there. Not as slow as Michael Parsons is
gonna be. But let me just say, I'm just observing.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
That's all I'm doing. It's what I do, all right.
Coming up, Don Brown's gonna join us. I'm stoked for this.
He's running for the Senate seat, and I can't wait
to hear his thoughts on everything. Dudes Talk eleven, ten

(01:19:26):
ninety nine, three WBT. It is the Brett Winerbules Show,
and it is my pleasure to welcome back to the
program a man whose work I've I've greatly admired for
a very long time, and it is Don Brown, who
is a candidate for the US Senate in North Carolina.
He's fighting for that seat, and I want to welcome
him here. Thanks so much for being being with us

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here today.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Sir Brett.

Speaker 5 (01:19:50):
It's always an honor and a pleasure to be with
you in greeting tonight from the campaign. Traill and beautiful
Richmond County, Rockingham, North Carolina. This road by the speedway,
it's going to be alive and buzzing and soon. So
and now to talk to you, it's gonna be a
great day. So thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Oh, it's my pleasure to have you here on the program. Absolutely,
what let's talk a little bit about what we're seeing
in the country right now. Obviously you're seeing American cities
having to deal with some pretty rough stuff. That is
certainly something I know you're a law and order guy
or you're somebody who's who's passionate about that. When when

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you look at Washington, d c. And the turnaround that's
happened over these last couple of days. Your thoughts about this,
Don Well.

Speaker 5 (01:20:32):
It's one of the most amazing things. President Trump's policies
have been. Mount rushmore good. You know, some of his
you know, personnelity licens have backfired on him, but his
policies have been better than anything we've seen. And a
miraculous story of what we've seen in Washington just in
the last few days is a testament of that. I
was on news Match yesterday talking about this very thing.

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But the President is now threatening or suggesting we need
to do federal Houston to Chicago. This is not un
US And then in American history, where have had presidents
have to step forward and send in federal troops to
quell insirations and to quell domestic violence. But I think
it's high time that we get these big, corrupt blue
cities cleaned up. I think what's happening in our nation's
capital is a great start. Even the Democrat mayor Muriel

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Bowser YEP is having to concede that we were seeing
some improvement. So I think he's on the step in
the right ration. And I'm cheering him on with this.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
I mean hypothetically, like what is the upside to opposing
law and order in the streets? I mean like that
that makes no sense to me. And whether it's Gavin
Newsomb or Pritzker or any of these other folks. I
just can't I just can't understand it there.

Speaker 5 (01:21:37):
Sir well Brett, nothing makes sense if you try to
apply a logical prism to what the left is up to,
because if you apply logical prism, you think, well, what
they want is best for the country and what's best
for the streets. But what they want is power, and
so attacking the police, even if that means chaos ensuing,
is a route to power for them. I was watching
the Chicago mayor, I mean, interviewed Joe Scarborough, who pressed

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him about three or four times would you accept five
thousand more? You know, policemen on the study of Chicago,
and the mayor would dance around and talk about social
programs and talk about dumb psychologists who are going to
stand the tide of the crime wave there. So it
is about chaoster for them. You have to understand they
are about in their mind in the country, their falling
saw Olenski's playbook. And so once we understand that the

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enemy speaks English in these big blue cities and elsewhere,
we'll be better off because then we'll know how to attack.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
Let's say you are elected, Let's say you become the
nominee and you are elected to the Senate coming up
in the next term, when when you look at your priorities,
what are they? What are the things that you would
like to work on? First?

Speaker 5 (01:22:46):
Well, rather so many things out there. You just mentioned
law in order, the streets, but there are three things
that we're hitting everywhere we go. One is the exploding
national debt. We've got to get under control. We don't,
We're going to lose the dollar. If we lose the dollar,
we will fall as fast as Britain fail after bas
the Bretton Woods, every one every great power in the
history of the war, whether the Romans with the Vinarias,
or the Spanish with the with the paso, or the

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Brits with the towns throwing and had the dominant currency.
The dollar is teetering. And so I'm going to push
what I call a deep state reduction. Actor would call
for a two thirds reduction and all federal personnel that
are not military, and a two thirds reduction in all
the administrative agencies. Put all that money to save the
US dollar and the reduce the debt. You got to
attack the debt, and we haven't meaningfully done this. So

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that's number one. Number two is medical freedom. We've been
through COVID. We saw what happened when they lied to
us about these jabs and lied to us about these
these masks. And this is a really red hot topic
out there. You know, my friend mister Whitley actually used
the Republican his positions Republican chair in North Gondin to
push the JAB and we've seen people harm from it.

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So I'm going to push for a vaccination, a mass
protection action that never again can either the federal government
our surrogate employers push experimental JAB into people's bodies. No jabs,
no microchipts, know nothing. And the third thing is federal judges.
These judges are out of control. They are working outside
their constitutional authority. Federal seventy eight, written by Alexander Halilton,

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stays very clearly that the judiciary is could be the
weakest branch of government and it has no injunctive power
over the President or the Congress. So I'm going to
push what I call a judicial separation of powers that
will clip the authority of these judges, which they don't
have anyway in the areas of a immigration and naturalization
and being the United States military. And those are the
three big points we're hitting, so a lot of other ones,
but that's what I'm going to be carrying the torch on.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
You know, we got the very sad news of the
unfortunate passing of retired US Army Sergeant Michael Verado, a
true American hero. In these last days, what would you
say to to the people who are clamoring to get
us involved in more adventurism, whether it's Ukraine, whether it's

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the Middle East, what would you say or and how
would you vote in that regard? I know you're I
know you're a hawk, but you have but I think
again a feeling that you're somebody who's a very practical
person in that regard. So what do you think about that?

Speaker 5 (01:25:13):
Well, there's a difference between being a hawk, which I am
in President Reagan since when he said that our military
should be so strong that no potential adversary should ever
test the strength, versus being the policeman of the war
of the world, like John Bolton and Lindsey Graham, who
President Trump's endorse and others want to be. We spent
more than enough money on Ukraine. Anyway, We've got a
thirty seven trillion dollar national debt and we should not

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use the United States military and unless the United States
national security is truly and immediately in periled. And so
there's a very very strict criteria that I personally would
have before I would support the United States military intervention anywhere.
I want us to have the biggest stick in the world,
like you know, like Teddy Roosevelt says, speak softly and
carry a big stick. You know, that's fine with me.
I want to if it's the best military equipment, but

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I don't want us to use it unless we are
truly in danger and our Nazis security is truly at stake.
God bless the staff stargeant to just passed away. He
gave his life for his country, and we're in prayer
for his family. I did not know him personally, I'm
aware of him, but it's the sad situations, and whenever
one of our soldiers falls, we remember that this freedom
was paid for with blood and with sweat and with sacrifice.

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And that's one of the reasons I'm running, because we've
got to fight to save this constituent republic, and status
quo even status quo republicanis and won't get the job done.
We've got to take the war to the battle of
the United States Senate to the United States Congress and
restore constitutional order as it was intended.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
Where do people go to support you? Where do they
reach out to get more information on your positions, your
thoughts and things like that?

Speaker 5 (01:26:44):
You got Our website is brown four in ceed brown
our NC dot com, Brown four Inc dot com. Come
on there, our position papers are there. We love to
have folks shipping and help the campaign. You can correspond
with us through that. I try to respond to every
email all that I can, and correspond with voters all
that we can. And and it's our state, it's it's

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our US Senate seat, and it's our constitution. Republican. We
don't stand for this concert Republican fight for it. We're
gonna lose it. We got to do this together, we
the people. As James Madison wrote in the preamble.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
Look, you are a You are a great patriot. You
are somebody that loves this country. And I and I
and I think you would be a phenomenal senator. Lord
knows that we need all the good people with good
measure uh there in the in the Senate and in
the House, but especially in the Senate. Thanks so much
for being here on the program. We really do appreciate

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you being here, and I look forward to having more
conversations with you.

Speaker 5 (01:27:39):
My friend and an honor as always, Brett, Hello to
all my friends at BT. We'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
You got it. Absolutely, it's a promise, all right. The
risk of at the risk of talking about too many

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things at two different times, I just gotta I gotta
just think about something here for a second. Do you understand,
like what we dodged by having the president get elected
the way he did. I mean, just like think about

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think about how different things would be, Like Joe Biden
would still be president, or hypothetically Vice President Harris would
have been elevated and she would have been the president
with with the vice president in Tom Tom No. I

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just just imagine what that would have been. Just imagine
the direction we would have gone. I'm not I'm not
banging on them, I'm not trying to insult them, but
it would be a different country entirely. Yeah, uh, Brett,
it would be a much better country. Very possible. Maybe
it would be maybe they would have they'd pull something
together and they'd say, hey, you know what I started

(01:29:09):
the show today talking about the idea of taking back
a broken culture. We really do have a damaged culture.
The things that we value are not necessarily the best

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possible things for the country, or for our children or
for any of this other stuff. We have self raising
kids right now. If you think about what this country
was in the past and what it is now, we
have self raising kids. These are kids that raise themselves.

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They go home to an empty house, and when you
think about, like what that looks like? That is that
is something that that is just what how did we
get to that? How did we get to self rising kids?

(01:30:13):
Like think about think about a person who decides they're fifteen,
sixteen years old and they decide, you know what I'm
gonna do. I'm just gonna go hop in a car
and I'm gonna go across country and just kind of
see what's going on there. The world is such a
dangerous place right now. Number one, But number two, who

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would even notice that they left? Like I said, safe
self rising kids? And then who's held to account? Who
do you call? Like you can't even pick up the
phone and say, Okay, I just got a call from
the police. Bobby's in jail, he was involved in some

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other and whatever, and you look at this and you go, okay,
so then who's gonna be the accountable person? Right? There
was a certain amount of power in being afraid of
mom and dad or mom or dad growing up, right,
It sort of kind of kept you on the straight

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and narrow to a certain degree. At least you would
have somebody who would be saying something like, oh, man,
I got arrested. I don't I can't call my dad
and get out of jail. I don't know what I'm
gonna do. He's gonna whoop me. All this kind of
stuff that wasn't me in real life, but that kind
of stuff there was power, and there was actually a

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very large measure of a weird kind of confidence in
knowing that somebody would come and bail you out. You
were gonna get it when you got home. You were
gonna get it the whole way home. You're gonna get
it the whole way home at home for the next
seven months or whatever it was. But at least you
were not in the clink, right, You're you're in the clink,

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You're in the cooler, whatever term you want to use.
And at least you're not. You're not locked up in
a jail cell someplace where you're rotting until the judge
decides he's gonna put you someplace else. Like that's that's
that's an important thing to understand. Like it when you
have strict parents, it's the worst thing in the world

(01:32:30):
until you actually need them to help you. And then
they come in and they bail you out, and they're
gonna whoop you, but they're gonna fail. They're gonna bail
you out. You're not gonna be in jail. You're not
gonna be in the aforementioned clink. And so with this
society that we've got now right, we've got a society

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of people who are afraid to actually say the truth,
like we have we have humans who will not say
the truth. We live in an age where lies are
dressed in virtue and truth is branded as hate. Think
about that, in this day and age where silence is

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mistaken for wisdom and compromise is sould as compassion. But truth,
real truth, that is not negotiable. It's not a matter
of opinion. It's not a matter of obedience. I mean,
it's a matter of obedience. It's not a matter of opinion.

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I believe, I believe, I can, I can hear it
in my mind. Let your yes mean yes and your
no mean no. Anything else, anything more is from the
evil one. Matthew five point thirty seven. Thank you to

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Lannie and of course George, Anna and Pam Breaking with
Brett Jensen comes up next. News Talk eleven, ten, nine,
nine three w BBT