December 18, 2024 • 41 mins
Chloe Adriana is an entrepreneur who left her life as a teacher to follow her calling as a sexologist.
Chole works across the globe to empower, liberate and awaken her clientele into their full radiance.
But it is her unique way of integrating her lifestyle and beliefs with her savvy business knowledge that I think we are all going to get value from.
There's a lot to learn… So open your mind, and enjoy the incredible Chole Adriana
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Chloe Adriana is an entrepreneur who left her life as
a teacher to follow her calling as a sexologist, Chloe
works across the globe to empower liberate and awaken her
clientele into their full radiance. But it is her unique
way of integrating her lifestyle and beliefs with her savvy
business knowledge that I think we are all going to
(00:25):
get value from.
There's a lot to learn. So open your mind and
enjoy the incredible Chloe Adriana.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hi,
Speaker 1 (00:35):
nice to be here. What a
welcome. So nice for you to be here. I'm excited
to have you here today. The wonderful Mior Claudia connected
us and of course I went away and did my
research and what I found was this incredible body of
work ranging from retreats to courses, one on one coaching.
Um And I'm impressed by how you've taken a journey
(00:57):
of personal transformation and turned it
into a movement, right? That's really helping others reclaim their
power break taboos and find that real, real self love.
So welcome Chloe. And let's start at the beginning, you
began your professional life as a primary school teacher. How
(01:18):
did that come about
Speaker 2 (01:20):
uh becoming a primary school? Teacher. It probably came about
um because I was a professional theory from
the age of 11.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I see the transition
Speaker 2 (01:32):
from Barry to teacher to, I call myself the pussy
queen in my work. So people find the transition kind
of weird. But I actually see it as a quite evolving. Yeah, segue,
I didn't know what I wanted to do, but the
student counselors actually really helped me. They were like, well,
you like being with Children, do you, you know, is
education something that you would like? And
I did the gap year, I was like, not right
(01:54):
away with the studying and then I loved being with Children. I,
I really did. Um I, yeah, being in the midst
the magic with them, I, I integrated the social and
emotional well being sector into like our classroom much more
than any other teacher had done. That always was more
exciting to me than mathematics and literacy.
(02:16):
And I guess that was like the beginning sparks of, yeah,
talking to on a deeper, like emotional level to people,
Speaker 1 (02:22):
real deep connections. Yeah. Right. And then so pretty bold
shift from sexology and self love, you know, from, you know,
from teaching into that sexology and self love coaching. Why
the shift? How did the shift come about?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, it was quite dramatic as I think most big
shifts are
Speaker 1 (02:48):
you got it,
Speaker 2 (02:49):
it needs to, yeah. I, I like to call it
like the rupture is what my teacher of mine, Mama
Gina says it's like the from rupture comes rapture.
Oh, I like
Speaker 1 (02:59):
that one. I often use, you know, breakdown to break through.
But I really love, I really
Speaker 2 (03:05):
love like next level up to RR. And that was
actually the
return of well, meeting a father and three sisters I'd
never met in my life. Them coming into my um
into my life, which is obviously a pretty big
deal.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And completely being unemotionally equipped to handle that and also
dating a bit of emotionally abusive person and being overwhelmed
by primary school teaching because it's a lot
and actually just, I'm not sure if I can swear
but fucking off to Africa and Europe for two years
to try and sort out the mess. And in that,
(03:51):
um I, I would say that I had a spiritual
awakening um and kind of realized all the backlog of
stuff that I just was not dealing with using party drugs,
using just like hiding, sticking my head under the rug
or whatever they call it, go away, go away, go away,
go away. And I just wouldn't. And then it was
all there smack in my face and
(04:12):
I ended up moving to a tantric community in Sweden
for seven months.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Ok. So let's just go back to um
you know, that, that I guess that breakdown or that,
that rupture, you know, piece of it. So you were teaching,
you were seeing someone it wasn't really going great. You
just learned all of this news. Um Was it kind
of like a gradual, you know, decline or was it
(04:41):
just a big explosion?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
It was like I was, yeah, I was, I was
drowning in it. Yeah, it wasn't already was definitely not
like
when I reflect back on that time, like I was
not doing well emotionally. I actually remember asking the principal, like,
could I please have um an emotional day off? And
she said, are you actually sick? Um And I didn't
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understand like even mental health and I was like, no, no,
I don't have a Yeah. Yeah. Um Yeah, so I
was like kind of trying to um advocate for myself,
but I just didn't know how. Um
yeah, and then it was actually the arrival of those,
the parents and the breakup with this partner that just
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made me like, not good.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah.
And so what, how did you get the sense or
sensibility to then go? Right. I need to go overseas
or was it just like instinctual, I've got to go
to Africa, like, how did it come about?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I mean, I was running away definitely. Um
But also there was intuition in that, you know, decision.
I had a friend living in Africa and I just
such an obscure thing that doesn't happen that I was like, oh,
just go there like, like how often do you have
a friend who lives in Africa? And it felt like a,
and I've always been a traveler. My family is Irish.
(06:02):
So I've traveled back and forth to Ireland my whole life.
I do love traveling. Um,
and I made some money, you know, I was young,
I made some money as a teacher and I was like,
I want to spend all my money and just go.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah. Yeah, 100%. And so you didn't really necessarily know
how long you were going to be away for. You
just pack your bag and don't know when I'm coming back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And you know, like with big things like that in life,
there's often moments where you, um,
well, you're inclined to go to psychologists, counselors, psychotherapists, all
(06:35):
that sort of thing. So, was that part of your
mix or did you just feel like you needed to
do that kind of self discovery first?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, it was. So I did start seeing a psychologist.
It was actually my bless my mom. She's so amazing. She,
through her work was able to, um, have me seeing
someone but it was at that time, like, I'd never,
I didn't have any friends who were seeing psychologists. It
was like, quite
intense me and I would say she wasn't
a massively aligned but it was still good to just,
(07:05):
it's one of uh an offer that I love uh
on psychology says you can get more,
you will get something from speaking to a lamp post
every week, like once a week, then just saying nothing
to no one that it was, it was great for
me to start moving. But nowadays, like I recommend clients
(07:27):
if shop around, like shop around for who is going
to be your therapist or your coach. Um And I,
I didn't shop but it was, it was still definitely
the beginning of having some sort of support. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
So then, you know, Africa Europe sparked obviously a major
transformation in your, in your life. What was it about
the experience that led you to discover this next path?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Well, in this community in Sweden, which I, yeah, love.
There's just workshops and retreats going on constantly. And I
literally was going to at least like three self development
workshops a day, nonviolent communication, tantra
um authentic relating or just soaking up information. Um Whilst
also they'd asked me to teach in the local primary
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school because I found out I was a teacher. Um
And so I was teaching the kids there and then
coming back to the community and studying these things. And
eventually I was like, I think I can run a workshop.
So I started running a few, like,
I'd always been interested in sexuality and I'd always been
that friend that people would come to, to ask questions
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or to share like that. I had a blog that
I wrote about my sex life. Um That was an
anonymous blog because I couldn't with like my teacher identity. Absolutely.
I was like, oh
um so I was like, maybe I can like, run a,
like a little workshop. And I just realized after having
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done that, I felt the energy, I would say that
I felt like how much joy and like satisfaction
I felt in doing that compared to the, the teaching
of Children, which was lovely. But it wasn't anything compared
to the like I felt alive. Like I felt like I'm,
this is the thing like this is it,
Speaker 1 (09:18):
this is what they talk about. Yeah.
And then I just,
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I didn't know it could be a career. Actually, I've
never heard of a sexologist and um I call myself
a somatic sexologist. So it's more like body based. Um
Yeah. And then I discovered that there you can be
and a, a course popped up and I flew home
to Australia so that I could make some money and
afford to do it
Speaker 1 (09:42):
doing something that you love. Yeah. Amazing. So, ok, so
then your blog Tales of a wanna be redhead? Is
that the blog you're talking about? The anonymous? Yeah, because
there were personal stories and adventures in there. Um
And yeah, my question was going to be, how did you,
you know, write publicly, you know, but then obviously there
(10:05):
was anonyminity to it once you became, you know, who
you are and stepped into, into your field, have you
turned off that anonymity or are you,
Speaker 2 (10:15):
it was a massive, massive process for me. Um, I
don't know if you've ever, like, kind of heard about,
you know, the witch hunts. Yeah. And like that of
the feeling of being persecuted for, like,
being like a healer or working with like the, the
moon cycles of the moon or the, that's what it
(10:37):
felt like. I felt like I was gonna be burnt
at the stake if like, someone found out what that
I was a teacher. And this like I was scared
like to my bones and my mom and my family,
like I was starting to speak a bit more publicly
about my learnings and people like you can't do this
like coming out and
um and actually had an amazing conversation with my mom
(10:59):
and was like, you ha this is like where I'm
heading now and you're gonna have to support me or
I can't share a lot of myself with you going
forward and she's one of my number one like allies
now and advocates. Um Yeah.
Yeah. So I just, I did decide like I can't hide.
It doesn't, I mean a whole part of what I
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teach is people accepting fully who they are.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Well, that's it. So I bet you had a lot
of drop off. Did you have drop off luck of
friends or did your circle
change?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Oh Yeah. My circle completely changed. I had a Yeah,
I lost some really good friends like um I still
don't have in my life, which, you know, that still
does cause some grief. Um
But also, you know, there's a lot of people who
I can see that they still watch my things or like, look,
but they'd never engage. But occasionally I have run into
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some of them and they've said, like, your work is amazing.
Like that's really profound. And I'm like, oh, you do
resonate with it and you just, it's, it's vulnerable for
some people to comment on and acknowledge that they're reading
my work. Yeah,
Speaker 1 (12:03):
100%. Yeah.
I think, you know, this, you know, podcast is, is about,
you know, giving people inspiration and motivation to move towards
their passion to take that leap and, and often it's,
it's in that entrepreneurial space where they're moving, you know, in, from,
from corporate and jumping into working for themselves. I mean,
yours is next level because not only are you jumping
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from that safe, you know, primary school teaching environment into this,
you know, new and
almost taboo, you know, kind of taboo,
what are
some pearls of wisdom that you, you know, could share
with the listener who's looking at making what can be
perceived as a really bold move in their lives
Speaker 2 (12:45):
and you don't have to go so fast. I'm a
very fast, like intense person. The, the shift that I
did was like, boom, like very big. It doesn't have
to be
like that. Like just going slowly as, I mean, I
work with the nervous system. So, like, as much as
your nervous system can handle, which means, like, your zone
of tolerance. Um,
Speaker 1 (13:06):
how do you
know that though? Because sometimes you push through and then
the adrenaline kicks in and you're in a world of
grief months down the track.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah.
Well, did I get here? Totally. Maybe, like, beginning with, like,
a safe, safe network. Like, if you have a
messenger group or a small smaller network of people who
you can share the new work with and then like,
gently widen the circle, I think, going straight on to
Facebook or Instagram, which is what a lot of people
do can be
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intense. Um maybe more privately kind of sharing. But also
I love to just talk about growing like your spine,
the people who are going to judge you or not
resonate or talk behind your back or whatever it is
like they were never aligned in your life anyway. And
it can be a service that you show up who
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you are and the masks come off of who's really
gonna be there for you because the people who are
now like closest in my life, like they're
epically incredible, more like more aligned I would say than
anyone had ever been before.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
So,
so that, you know, analogy of jumping off a cliff, really, really,
really like jump off the cliff but you know, pull
your shoe and yeah,
Speaker 2 (14:17):
it's,
it's a delicate balance. Like how, like how can you
do as much preparation before jumping off the cliff? And
then at some point you will, you will have to
do it. I do recommend people though. How do you
talk about this in your podcast when people are jumping
in to like, have a foot? Keep the other thing
(14:37):
like it, a lot of people think they have to
like and cancel the other thing and go all in.
I actually don't think that's a great idea because then
you end up putting pressure and stress onto the new
endeavor to make you money and the passion ends up
becoming
stressful.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah.
Yeah. And it moves from passion to duty. Yeah. And stress. Yeah.
Yeah. Absolutely. OK. Great. So, um the Pussy Queen Academy,
it's a very bold and empowering name, isn't it? How
did you, what inspired it? And how does it encapsulate,
you know, the essence of your work?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Well, I love teaching people about um intimacy with themselves,
with pleasure. Um I'm very inspired by the teacher Mama
Gina who I even just referenced before. Um Regina Thomas. Sure.
She's written the book Pussy, a reclamation and in that
she goes very deep into why that word. It's so
(15:38):
challenging for a lot of people. But um
well, the vagina is only anatomically incorrect for describing the
whole region of the female genitalia. Uh The vulva would
be a word for that. Encapsulates the whole um as
in the entire thing, not the whole, the vagina is
the whole, got it. Um The Yoni is a beautiful
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name but it Sanskrit. Um So it's not like native
English tongue. It does mean um what does it mean?
Temple of
the temple to the divine or something? Which is gorgeous.
Um Very gorgeous. Yeah. And, but she speaks into like
pussy when I love to say if people say to themselves, pussy,
pussy again and again and whisper it. You almost always
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have a smile like I can see you smiling right
now like it makes you smile. And there's a lot
of people who
we were like no, like it's been taken from us
because of pornography and I, and I do totally understand
that but it's a reclamation like we get to choose.
So yeah, it's a bit audacious. I have to put
dollar symbols when I write it online because it gets
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picked up by Facebook and Instagram and for me,
Speaker 1 (16:49):
wow. OK.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
But I'm, I'm committed. Yeah,
Speaker 1 (16:52):
100%. 100%. And you obviously helped hundreds of, of women
reclaim their sexuality and self worth. What are some of
the most common issues you see women struggling with when
they first come to you? And how do you help
them move through those challenges?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Not really being in their body, like not really feeling
comfortable and safe to dance freely, to be naked and
confident in their naked body to lots. Don't know how
to pleasure themselves. They just kind of expect that other
people are responsible for their pleasure. Whereas it's you are
responsible for your pleasure, like you are the orgasm I
(17:30):
say like you just have to learn how to open
to it
um and to receive. So yeah, that would be some
of the main issues I see with people so much
self judgment around their body, around being worthy of receiving
love and pleasure or going for a business that they really,
really want and self worth. Um And self esteem is
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insidious like in our culture. Um So that's, yeah, definitely
the main things that I see more people settling, like
really settling in their work in their relationships in their
sex life. Um
and just thinking that that's what it has to be
and that's what it will be and that makes me cry.
I'm like, fuck no
Speaker 1 (18:11):
100%. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It sort of, it
really kills the joy, doesn't it?
Yeah. Wow. Can you um explain. So I guess what,
what do you, so what do you do? Like, I mean,
can you just share, I guess some elements of some
of the work that you do to help unlock that
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I can try a bit. But a lot of my
work is mystery work. I don't know if you heard
like feminine Mysteries, a lot of it, if I would
say it will be completely out of context. But teaching
people to breathe, to like breathe or so many of
us only chest
if you need to breathe all the way down to
your belly, in order to be able to be connected
to your pleasure, even be able to move in, in
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move in their body. I teach people a lot about
dance and about free movement and about sensual movement. Um
teaching people authentic communication,
um eye gazing, being able to speak your truth. I
teach a lot of people about this beautiful practice in
my community called sharing where um and this is so
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intense for a lot of people. When they come to workshops,
I'll end up popping you in a group,
group of four or five and each person has five
minutes where they will just speak and no one else
will speak. You will just share what is happening in
your heart. Um And, you know, we can speak back
and forth at a cafe for hours with our friends.
But
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for so many women, when they just have that spotlight
and they just have to speak. It's so hard for
them to take up that space. Um And a lot
will like cut themselves off after a minute usually. And
they have to develop the muscle of feeling. I can
keep speaking and just share what's going on because there's
a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, 100% 100%.
So,
you know, sex and self pleasure are obviously, there's still
taboo around it in, in many parts of the world.
What strategies do you use to help your clients and
the broader public break down those stigmas?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I think II I really show case it in myself
like um living, I, I think a very pleasure filled life.
Like I usually feel myself dancing every morning or like
giving myself a beautiful massage. I can't feel myself giving
myself a breast massage but like just like
kind of inviting and then also inviting my, have a
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private like telegram group where we can share more um
publicly videos and photos of ourselves. Like so many women,
like when they start to feel empowered, want to have
like a beautiful naked photo of themselves and be celebrated.
Um In that a community would be that my main
way of um
building like the strength of of this work is they
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don't need to always be working with me. Like once
they've made really strong sisters, they'll usually go off and
they'll go to festivals together and other retreats. And that
makes me happy. Like it's just about like spreading this
work and community is the strongest way. I think it's
a culture. It's kind of like a cultural movement I
would say.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
And this is actually quite a nice segue to my
next question because I was, you know, we, we talk
a lot about purpose right on the bus and, and
for you, I guess what is the core mission driving
your academy and, and how do you keep that at
the center of everything you do?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Hm. I think love, like corny as it may seem.
I'm so devoted to love and love. For me includes
sexuality and pleasure. We're all here because of sex. Um, unless, well,
some people not, I guess these days of IVF, but
most of us more or less
but like, love is, yeah, for me, as a, you know,
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somewhat spiritual person is like the strongest force like on earth.
And I don't think that you can be fully inhabiting
like a life of love if you're not accepting your body,
your worth, um your pleasure, that of your friends, that
of your mothers um and all the people around you.
So that, that really keeps me going.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah. Amazing.
So, you know, you, you've shared your work and, and
your own journey of, of reclaiming that self worth. How
have your personal experiences shaped the way you approach your coaching,
practice
Speaker 2 (22:30):
so many different ways that I, I do, I it
gets reflected to me a lot like I am living
like what I'm teaching a lot, but also surrounding myself.
I go to a lot of trainings like I love
to study with best teachers in my field and
I'm having my one lived experience, but there's so many
different ways like that people are experiencing it. So a
(22:51):
lot of my work is also rooted in Taoism, which
as someone who I mentioned at the start can be
really fast. The dow is really a
like slowness. Um And like, you know, the strongest tree
didn't just grow overnight. It's, it's slow. So I think
actually I would say a few years ago, I was
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probably also more fast as a coach of like,
you know, the marketing that you can see like transform
your life in eight weeks and two days cosmopolitan like
39 positions. And yeah, it's a bit cringe, but I'll
admit that I kind of bought into that for a while,
but I'm just really living and, and seeing in my
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clients and in myself like that deep,
deep change like happens slowly because it took a long
time for us to get to the patterns and behaviors
that we're in. Um but it happened slowly as even
a small change can feel massive. So that's, it doesn't
need to like happen overnight. So I'm really interested these
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days in working with clients who are committed long term
to really embodying like long lasting change in their lives
and not
putting the pressure of I need, I just want to
have an orgasm. Now, I just wanna like
Speaker 1 (24:13):
that real achievement and instant gratification. It's
Speaker 2 (24:17):
part of our society. I need it now, now now
and I, I'm not into it anymore and just go slow.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, great. I guess, you know, we, we spoke a
bit earlier about, you know, your circle and, and, and
a big personal challenge was coming out and saying this is,
you know, this is what I do. Um
You've obviously overcome that,
have they impacted the way that you work with others now? Like,
is that still something that you, um, are very mindful of?
(24:50):
Or you
just
Speaker 2 (24:53):
like in saying what I do? Um No, I just
kind of own it. Like I, I sometimes have vulnerability
hangovers um, with sharing something and, and actually I have
learned to, I think younger I would share everything and
I'm learning to like some things are for me. Yeah. Yeah.
(25:15):
So some things are just like I had a previous
partner actually say like
you wrote about like something I didn't name him or anything,
but he just knew that it was about us. And
he's like, I didn't like that. You did that. And
that was a really good lesson for me. I was like, OK,
not everything is like a
marketing like experience in my life like what is sacred
(25:37):
and what is just for me versus what is like
a beautiful lesson and I feel wants to be shared.
It's a kind of I'm always dancing the edge of
that one if you have an experience like that. But
Speaker 1 (25:50):
yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. So
at this part in your journey, now, what would have,
what would have been nice to know at the very
beginning of your journey.
Looking back,
Speaker 2 (26:05):
you're gonna do great like you're gonna do so well.
Um
let yourself be supported by people.
I mean, I became organized anyway, but like focus on organization.
That's been a massive
assistant to my growth. Um
(26:27):
Yeah, and go slow. It's not a race that you're
in this for the long haul. So you don't need
to race to some kind of finish line. That's not
a finish line. Um Just enjoy your life while you
do it. Um
Yeah, invest in yourself and your self care as well.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
And I think that's a really, that those are really
awesome messages for that entrepreneurial life too, right? Because I
think sometimes you, people think they have to, like you say,
they have to jump in, they have to make it
happen really quick. They have to, you know, be super successful,
they have to. But I think um yeah, there's a
lot to be said for that slow growing tree and
(27:09):
also investing in yourself. I think that's really important too
in the entrepreneur space, you know, making sure that,
that you're investing in yourself to give yourself the best
chance.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah, working with mentors. Um
like I'm not usually a figures person, but I've been
really learning like to understand numbers much more emotionally intelligent
than like like numbers literacy. And I've seen that I've
actually doubled my revenue every year for the past four years.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Well
done. Congratulations. That's
Speaker 2 (27:41):
it. I was like, wow.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
And
how have you done
that?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Working with business coaches? Yeah, like, I've worked with some
exceptional
Speaker 1 (27:49):
coaches
or
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I've worked with coaches, uh, business coaches who are also
somatic based. So they'll teach you like logistic things. But
they'll also teach me to, like, be in your body
and read because that's important to me.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
And I think that's really important. Yeah, that's really important.
I think that's, that's the gap that's often missed. Is that, um, that, uh,
emotional pace?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Absolutely. I have a program like, coming up soon and
I have been like, oh, the numbers aren't what I
thought they would be. I've been, you know, doing so
much work behind the scenes and the writing and the
posting and my friend, you know, also an entrepreneur said
to me, yeah. But have you been doing any magic?
Have you been doing any embodiment? And I was like, no.
So I got out, I got a, bought a rose
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and I lay down like a petal for each person.
I wanted to manifest like into the circle for the,
for the workshop and like, say a little prayer, had
a little dance and I woke up the next morning
and two more people had signed up. I was like, oh, yeah,
I just have to like, come out of my head
and also just like, do my witchy things.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, 100%. And I think, yeah, that's,
that's so important, isn't it? To
Speaker 2 (29:02):
just read what the intention? What's
Speaker 1 (29:05):
the intention? And I think every business owner should do that. Absolutely.
They should absolutely do that. Set the intention.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
It can just be a vision board or it doesn't
have to be like, you know, roses. It could be
Speaker 1 (29:16):
100%. And, you know, it can also just be, um,
goal setting, right, and break those goals down. And it's,
and it's goal setting and that,
that direction pa is a key part of your motivation
because when you've got direction, you've got motivation and that
keeps it keeps you
(29:36):
going.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Absolutely. There's a really cool practice called sex magic, which
is the ultimate manifestation practice. It's like you write down
the goal, then you do a self pleasure session on
the goal, like visualizing it happening and then afterwards you
write down all the action steps that you need to take, like,
Speaker 1 (29:55):
listen,
get on board. I love that. Great
Speaker 2 (30:00):
pleasure is a creative force.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
So then we come down to, you know, measures of success.
Often we talk about what measures are success and they're
all different for different businesses in different stages of business.
What would you say your measures of success were when
you started and where they are now,
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I'm now at the point where I can almost entirely
just live off my
Yeah, business. If in a year, I mean, that's I
have for the last two years. Occasionally I take like
little other jobs but mostly I just
sustain myself with my business. That feels enormous. Yeah. Absolutely.
Still go overseas and do other things. Um Also like
(30:43):
my self care, I think that that is a really
big measure of success is that I can still go
and get my hair done and you know, take care
of yourself. It depends on the type of person you are.
But I notice like
I'm Irish, we have more of a like, you know,
hold on to your money to be able to let your,
(31:05):
your business support your self care as well. Feels like
a success to me. And
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I
think that's also AAA really great um thing for any
business owner is to carve out that time, you know,
carve out that time and carve out those rewards, right?
Because that's reward like
a reward for me is getting a blow wave every Thursday.
Um You know, like that, that's, that's my reward for,
(31:32):
you know, working the kind of hours that you need
to work business off the ground and, and it's
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Thursday today and your hair looks great. So, no, really, otherwise,
like the, the goalpost is never in end, like you're
just constantly going 100
Speaker 1 (31:49):
percent and you're never really satisfied either. And that's really
important is, isn't it, is to like, be grounded and
be really grateful and satisfied with how far
you've got?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, absolutely. I think that makes me think of another
like
measure of success is like having community. I did find
starting off in entrepreneurship. It's, it can be lonely. It's
a very, it's a self driven thing
Speaker 1 (32:16):
and especially, I, I, you know, I don't mean to
keep bringing it back but it is a really unique
field that you're in and, you know, you go to
a B and I networking group and you ain't gonna
find someone in your trade at the end of the day,
I think, you know, it can be lonely anyway, let alone. Yeah. So,
how have
you?
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Well, I'm such a yeah, community person that I've like
created the group chats, like with uh like all the
women who do my work. Um We recently I was
presenting at a festival and I like organized us to
all camp together, all the women doing sexuality. And it
was so amazing because like
Lydia's doing becoming all multi-orgasmic. My other friend's doing sacred slut.
(32:58):
I'm doing like seasons of pleasure and we're all taking
each other's photos and we're all like supporting each other.
And yeah, it just felt really nourishing to have that support.
So like if you're not the person who's the group starter,
like find someone that is in your industry. Um But
I also really enjoy being connected to my entrepreneurial friends
(33:20):
who are not exactly in my
um my genius of work because it's nice to have like,
we actually have a group with four friends and we like,
reflect to each other, like what we're seeing in each
other's businesses, what we're celebrating, keep each other accountable for
doing the celebrations. Like, have you treated yourself recently, like
working really hard and that's important as well.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah, super
important. I've actually just joined an entrepreneurial group back in,
in August. And you know, I'm
connecting with, you know, 23 of them every day. And
it's so nice because there's that accountability piece which is
part of, you know, community, which again is another key
(34:05):
driver in the, in the motivation piece, right? I believe this,
I've got this motivation theory around um direction, routine and
connection, how they all, you know, are crucial to, to
Speaker 2 (34:18):
totally direction regine connection.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah. Yeah. Um So I think, yeah, again, it's that
it's that piece of finding your tribe, right? Finding your
circle and having people in a different industry is also
really great because they can reflect back to you, you know, questions. Well,
why do you do it that way? And
that makes you think? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Totally. Yeah. I've got a friend who's a few friends
that are in so not my industry at all. And
it's like they've given me some of the best feedback
because they have more of a bird's eye view and
they're not like emotionally invested in um Yeah, in the field,
like the way that others who do what I do are.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah. Yeah, I love it. I love it.
So, you know, for, we spoke about, for listeners who,
you know, I might, might be starting off in a
new space. What about listeners who are, you know, in
the space, but they might have lost their motivation a bit.
We've talked about my motivation. But what about you? Like,
(35:23):
what advice would you give to someone who is kind
of losing their business mojo and, and needed a bit
of a perk up. Not
Speaker 2 (35:30):
so fair enough. I mean,
season I really believe in like, the cyclic nature of like,
things in life. Like you might be just having a winter, um,
with that and, and that's ok because after winter, like
spring does always come. But you have to really, like,
I would say, listen, like, what is this winter asking you?
Do you actually need a break? Like, do you actually
(35:51):
need to like fully pause everything? And I just went
up the coast for six weeks and like paused, you know,
a lot of what I've had on my plate and
I feel so recharged, like, maybe you just need to
step off the treadmill for reals, like for a bit
and come back with fresh inspiration. Um
And yeah, sitcom return to the intention. Like, why are
(36:12):
you actually doing this? Because I think the intention can
get lost when
we're just doing admin and all the other things. And
I was like, what, why, why am I doing this? Like, and,
and ask is that still good enough a reason for
me to be doing this? And if it's a no,
then maybe it is time for it to be shifted
and die. But if it's a yes, then,
(36:34):
yeah, it will come back out of the winter into spring.
You just need to nourish and what do we do
in winter? We rest, we just let it go and
allow us of space to come back with energy and motivation.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
And I think, and amongst all of that is trusting
the process. Right. Trusting, which is a very
tough one.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
It's very hard. The mystery is so such a motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Oh Yeah. Oh
Yeah. Oh,
Speaker 2 (37:05):
the mystery.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah. Yeah. Chloe, you're such a force of self love. You're,
you're like so calm and cool and you've got this
amazing energy. But you can see there's like so much
determination and, and force behind what you, what you do.
And I know our listeners are going to take away
a lot more,
you know, than they were attending to from today's episode.
(37:30):
So I really
Speaker 2 (37:30):
appreciate. Thank you. I also really enjoy your calm and
very deep wealth of knowledge and holding space.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
That's my pleasure. Thank you. Are there any parting words
that you could give uh a listener who is in
that entrepreneurial space? Logging it out? What would, what's your,
what's your parting pears of wisdom,
Speaker 2 (37:53):
include self pleasure in your business. The best ideas that
you will have will come after a nice beautiful breast
massage or session with your dildo or laying in the
sun naked, whatever like much more juicy eyes will. Ideas
will come from you than slogging over your laptop for
hours and hours and not having a break.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah. OK. I love that. Good, good, good, good way
to finish. Good way to finish. So as we wrap up,
what's next for you? Tell us what you're up to
next.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Oh, I'm running my circle. Pussy Palace this Sunday. I'm
running embodying the queen within a training. I'm running my
retreat in next retreat in February. I'm gonna run a
six month mentorship for people wanting to deepen into self love.
And I'm probably gonna be taking my retreat to Europe.
Um You wanna see my granny as well?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Very exciting. That's really exciting. What about someone who's, you know,
on their own journey of personal growth and, and self
discovery and changing up direction?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Well,
I'll just say the same thing in a different way,
like include self pleasure in your life. I really see
it as such a missing piece of people's life. Um
Pleasure is self care. It's a way to nourish yourself.
Um
And, and connect to your heart as well because especially in,
(39:16):
are you listeners, mostly women or all genders,
Speaker 1 (39:19):
there's a bit
of combination, a couple of genders
Speaker 2 (39:24):
either way like connecting to your like, I think that
pleasure is connects us to our heart and to the
softness inside of ourselves. So keep that on the menu.
Lots of people forget about it
Speaker 1 (39:38):
and I guess what might be nice to know if
that seems so foreign for someone if they're listening to and,
and they just seem so far away from that. What
are some sort of bridging steps that, you know?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Well, in my example, you know, I said laying the
sun pleasure often think it has to be genital based.
It doesn't like what just gives you pleasure, like,
um, buying yourself an ice cream and like, just sitting
down and not touching your phone and just eating it
and just like enjoying the sensations for that full 10
minutes that you eat it or five minutes or two,
(40:12):
whatever it takes like pleasure is actually available to us
every single day, like
driving in the car and realizing you're tense and like,
how can you just soften your legs and like be
more at, at ease in your body, at your gym class?
How can you like notice when I put down the weights?
(40:33):
It feels like, oh, that feels so nice. Like just
bringing more awareness of the pleasure that's there all the
time in our lives.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
You're
so right. I love that. Just that presence to all
the little things.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Hey, that's tant. Really? That's what Tres about. Yeah,
Speaker 1 (40:51):
God, some people have got it so wrong, haven't they?
I love that Chloe. Thank you so much. Thank you
so much for joining us today. Your insights and openness
have been so refreshing. Um And yeah, I know our
audience is gonna appreciate um all that you've said and
hopefully walk away, feeling empowered to embrace their authentic selves
(41:13):
or at least have some tips and tricks to get
them there. So, thanks so much. Thank you so much
for having me.
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Chloe Adriana is an entrepreneur who left her life as
a teacher to follow her calling as a sexologist, Chloe
works across the globe to empower liberate and awaken her
clientele into their full radiance. But it is her unique
way of integrating her lifestyle and beliefs with her savvy
business knowledge that I think we are all going to
(00:25):
get value from.
There's a lot to learn. So open your mind and
enjoy the incredible Chloe Adriana.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hi,
Speaker 1 (00:35):
nice to be here. What a
welcome. So nice for you to be here. I'm excited
to have you here today. The wonderful Mior Claudia connected
us and of course I went away and did my
research and what I found was this incredible body of
work ranging from retreats to courses, one on one coaching.
Um And I'm impressed by how you've taken a journey
(00:57):
of personal transformation and turned it
into a movement, right? That's really helping others reclaim their
power break taboos and find that real, real self love.
So welcome Chloe. And let's start at the beginning, you
began your professional life as a primary school teacher. How
(01:18):
did that come about
Speaker 2 (01:20):
uh becoming a primary school? Teacher. It probably came about
um because I was a professional theory from
the age of 11.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I see the transition
Speaker 2 (01:32):
from Barry to teacher to, I call myself the pussy
queen in my work. So people find the transition kind
of weird. But I actually see it as a quite evolving. Yeah, segue,
I didn't know what I wanted to do, but the
student counselors actually really helped me. They were like, well,
you like being with Children, do you, you know, is
education something that you would like? And
I did the gap year, I was like, not right
(01:54):
away with the studying and then I loved being with Children. I,
I really did. Um I, yeah, being in the midst
the magic with them, I, I integrated the social and
emotional well being sector into like our classroom much more
than any other teacher had done. That always was more
exciting to me than mathematics and literacy.
(02:16):
And I guess that was like the beginning sparks of, yeah,
talking to on a deeper, like emotional level to people,
Speaker 1 (02:22):
real deep connections. Yeah. Right. And then so pretty bold
shift from sexology and self love, you know, from, you know,
from teaching into that sexology and self love coaching. Why
the shift? How did the shift come about?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, it was quite dramatic as I think most big
shifts are
Speaker 1 (02:48):
you got it,
Speaker 2 (02:49):
it needs to, yeah. I, I like to call it
like the rupture is what my teacher of mine, Mama
Gina says it's like the from rupture comes rapture.
Oh, I like
Speaker 1 (02:59):
that one. I often use, you know, breakdown to break through.
But I really love, I really
Speaker 2 (03:05):
love like next level up to RR. And that was
actually the
return of well, meeting a father and three sisters I'd
never met in my life. Them coming into my um
into my life, which is obviously a pretty big
deal.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And completely being unemotionally equipped to handle that and also
dating a bit of emotionally abusive person and being overwhelmed
by primary school teaching because it's a lot
and actually just, I'm not sure if I can swear
but fucking off to Africa and Europe for two years
to try and sort out the mess. And in that,
(03:51):
um I, I would say that I had a spiritual
awakening um and kind of realized all the backlog of
stuff that I just was not dealing with using party drugs,
using just like hiding, sticking my head under the rug
or whatever they call it, go away, go away, go away,
go away. And I just wouldn't. And then it was
all there smack in my face and
(04:12):
I ended up moving to a tantric community in Sweden
for seven months.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Ok. So let's just go back to um
you know, that, that I guess that breakdown or that,
that rupture, you know, piece of it. So you were teaching,
you were seeing someone it wasn't really going great. You
just learned all of this news. Um Was it kind
of like a gradual, you know, decline or was it
(04:41):
just a big explosion?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
It was like I was, yeah, I was, I was
drowning in it. Yeah, it wasn't already was definitely not
like
when I reflect back on that time, like I was
not doing well emotionally. I actually remember asking the principal, like,
could I please have um an emotional day off? And
she said, are you actually sick? Um And I didn't
(05:06):
understand like even mental health and I was like, no, no,
I don't have a Yeah. Yeah. Um Yeah, so I
was like kind of trying to um advocate for myself,
but I just didn't know how. Um
yeah, and then it was actually the arrival of those,
the parents and the breakup with this partner that just
(05:26):
made me like, not good.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah.
And so what, how did you get the sense or
sensibility to then go? Right. I need to go overseas
or was it just like instinctual, I've got to go
to Africa, like, how did it come about?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I mean, I was running away definitely. Um
But also there was intuition in that, you know, decision.
I had a friend living in Africa and I just
such an obscure thing that doesn't happen that I was like, oh,
just go there like, like how often do you have
a friend who lives in Africa? And it felt like a,
and I've always been a traveler. My family is Irish.
(06:02):
So I've traveled back and forth to Ireland my whole life.
I do love traveling. Um,
and I made some money, you know, I was young,
I made some money as a teacher and I was like,
I want to spend all my money and just go.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah. Yeah, 100%. And so you didn't really necessarily know
how long you were going to be away for. You
just pack your bag and don't know when I'm coming back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And you know, like with big things like that in life,
there's often moments where you, um,
well, you're inclined to go to psychologists, counselors, psychotherapists, all
(06:35):
that sort of thing. So, was that part of your
mix or did you just feel like you needed to
do that kind of self discovery first?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, it was. So I did start seeing a psychologist.
It was actually my bless my mom. She's so amazing. She,
through her work was able to, um, have me seeing
someone but it was at that time, like, I'd never,
I didn't have any friends who were seeing psychologists. It
was like, quite
intense me and I would say she wasn't
a massively aligned but it was still good to just,
(07:05):
it's one of uh an offer that I love uh
on psychology says you can get more,
you will get something from speaking to a lamp post
every week, like once a week, then just saying nothing
to no one that it was, it was great for
me to start moving. But nowadays, like I recommend clients
(07:27):
if shop around, like shop around for who is going
to be your therapist or your coach. Um And I,
I didn't shop but it was, it was still definitely
the beginning of having some sort of support. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
So then, you know, Africa Europe sparked obviously a major
transformation in your, in your life. What was it about
the experience that led you to discover this next path?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Well, in this community in Sweden, which I, yeah, love.
There's just workshops and retreats going on constantly. And I
literally was going to at least like three self development
workshops a day, nonviolent communication, tantra
um authentic relating or just soaking up information. Um Whilst
also they'd asked me to teach in the local primary
(08:15):
school because I found out I was a teacher. Um
And so I was teaching the kids there and then
coming back to the community and studying these things. And
eventually I was like, I think I can run a workshop.
So I started running a few, like,
I'd always been interested in sexuality and I'd always been
that friend that people would come to, to ask questions
(08:36):
or to share like that. I had a blog that
I wrote about my sex life. Um That was an
anonymous blog because I couldn't with like my teacher identity. Absolutely.
I was like, oh
um so I was like, maybe I can like, run a,
like a little workshop. And I just realized after having
(08:58):
done that, I felt the energy, I would say that
I felt like how much joy and like satisfaction
I felt in doing that compared to the, the teaching
of Children, which was lovely. But it wasn't anything compared
to the like I felt alive. Like I felt like I'm,
this is the thing like this is it,
Speaker 1 (09:18):
this is what they talk about. Yeah.
And then I just,
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I didn't know it could be a career. Actually, I've
never heard of a sexologist and um I call myself
a somatic sexologist. So it's more like body based. Um
Yeah. And then I discovered that there you can be
and a, a course popped up and I flew home
to Australia so that I could make some money and
afford to do it
Speaker 1 (09:42):
doing something that you love. Yeah. Amazing. So, ok, so
then your blog Tales of a wanna be redhead? Is
that the blog you're talking about? The anonymous? Yeah, because
there were personal stories and adventures in there. Um
And yeah, my question was going to be, how did you,
you know, write publicly, you know, but then obviously there
(10:05):
was anonyminity to it once you became, you know, who
you are and stepped into, into your field, have you
turned off that anonymity or are you,
Speaker 2 (10:15):
it was a massive, massive process for me. Um, I
don't know if you've ever, like, kind of heard about,
you know, the witch hunts. Yeah. And like that of
the feeling of being persecuted for, like,
being like a healer or working with like the, the
moon cycles of the moon or the, that's what it
(10:37):
felt like. I felt like I was gonna be burnt
at the stake if like, someone found out what that
I was a teacher. And this like I was scared
like to my bones and my mom and my family,
like I was starting to speak a bit more publicly
about my learnings and people like you can't do this
like coming out and
um and actually had an amazing conversation with my mom
(10:59):
and was like, you ha this is like where I'm
heading now and you're gonna have to support me or
I can't share a lot of myself with you going
forward and she's one of my number one like allies
now and advocates. Um Yeah.
Yeah. So I just, I did decide like I can't hide.
It doesn't, I mean a whole part of what I
(11:19):
teach is people accepting fully who they are.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Well, that's it. So I bet you had a lot
of drop off. Did you have drop off luck of
friends or did your circle
change?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Oh Yeah. My circle completely changed. I had a Yeah,
I lost some really good friends like um I still
don't have in my life, which, you know, that still
does cause some grief. Um
But also, you know, there's a lot of people who
I can see that they still watch my things or like, look,
but they'd never engage. But occasionally I have run into
(11:50):
some of them and they've said, like, your work is amazing.
Like that's really profound. And I'm like, oh, you do
resonate with it and you just, it's, it's vulnerable for
some people to comment on and acknowledge that they're reading
my work. Yeah,
Speaker 1 (12:03):
100%. Yeah.
I think, you know, this, you know, podcast is, is about,
you know, giving people inspiration and motivation to move towards
their passion to take that leap and, and often it's,
it's in that entrepreneurial space where they're moving, you know, in, from,
from corporate and jumping into working for themselves. I mean,
yours is next level because not only are you jumping
(12:25):
from that safe, you know, primary school teaching environment into this,
you know, new and
almost taboo, you know, kind of taboo,
what are
some pearls of wisdom that you, you know, could share
with the listener who's looking at making what can be
perceived as a really bold move in their lives
Speaker 2 (12:45):
and you don't have to go so fast. I'm a
very fast, like intense person. The, the shift that I
did was like, boom, like very big. It doesn't have
to be
like that. Like just going slowly as, I mean, I
work with the nervous system. So, like, as much as
your nervous system can handle, which means, like, your zone
of tolerance. Um,
Speaker 1 (13:06):
how do you
know that though? Because sometimes you push through and then
the adrenaline kicks in and you're in a world of
grief months down the track.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah.
Well, did I get here? Totally. Maybe, like, beginning with, like,
a safe, safe network. Like, if you have a
messenger group or a small smaller network of people who
you can share the new work with and then like,
gently widen the circle, I think, going straight on to
Facebook or Instagram, which is what a lot of people
do can be
(13:33):
intense. Um maybe more privately kind of sharing. But also
I love to just talk about growing like your spine,
the people who are going to judge you or not
resonate or talk behind your back or whatever it is
like they were never aligned in your life anyway. And
it can be a service that you show up who
(13:53):
you are and the masks come off of who's really
gonna be there for you because the people who are
now like closest in my life, like they're
epically incredible, more like more aligned I would say than
anyone had ever been before.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
So,
so that, you know, analogy of jumping off a cliff, really, really,
really like jump off the cliff but you know, pull
your shoe and yeah,
Speaker 2 (14:17):
it's,
it's a delicate balance. Like how, like how can you
do as much preparation before jumping off the cliff? And
then at some point you will, you will have to
do it. I do recommend people though. How do you
talk about this in your podcast when people are jumping
in to like, have a foot? Keep the other thing
(14:37):
like it, a lot of people think they have to
like and cancel the other thing and go all in.
I actually don't think that's a great idea because then
you end up putting pressure and stress onto the new
endeavor to make you money and the passion ends up
becoming
stressful.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah.
Yeah. And it moves from passion to duty. Yeah. And stress. Yeah.
Yeah. Absolutely. OK. Great. So, um the Pussy Queen Academy,
it's a very bold and empowering name, isn't it? How
did you, what inspired it? And how does it encapsulate,
you know, the essence of your work?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Well, I love teaching people about um intimacy with themselves,
with pleasure. Um I'm very inspired by the teacher Mama
Gina who I even just referenced before. Um Regina Thomas. Sure.
She's written the book Pussy, a reclamation and in that
she goes very deep into why that word. It's so
(15:38):
challenging for a lot of people. But um
well, the vagina is only anatomically incorrect for describing the
whole region of the female genitalia. Uh The vulva would
be a word for that. Encapsulates the whole um as
in the entire thing, not the whole, the vagina is
the whole, got it. Um The Yoni is a beautiful
(16:03):
name but it Sanskrit. Um So it's not like native
English tongue. It does mean um what does it mean?
Temple of
the temple to the divine or something? Which is gorgeous.
Um Very gorgeous. Yeah. And, but she speaks into like
pussy when I love to say if people say to themselves, pussy,
pussy again and again and whisper it. You almost always
(16:25):
have a smile like I can see you smiling right
now like it makes you smile. And there's a lot
of people who
we were like no, like it's been taken from us
because of pornography and I, and I do totally understand
that but it's a reclamation like we get to choose.
So yeah, it's a bit audacious. I have to put
dollar symbols when I write it online because it gets
(16:45):
picked up by Facebook and Instagram and for me,
Speaker 1 (16:49):
wow. OK.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
But I'm, I'm committed. Yeah,
Speaker 1 (16:52):
100%. 100%. And you obviously helped hundreds of, of women
reclaim their sexuality and self worth. What are some of
the most common issues you see women struggling with when
they first come to you? And how do you help
them move through those challenges?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Not really being in their body, like not really feeling
comfortable and safe to dance freely, to be naked and
confident in their naked body to lots. Don't know how
to pleasure themselves. They just kind of expect that other
people are responsible for their pleasure. Whereas it's you are
responsible for your pleasure, like you are the orgasm I
(17:30):
say like you just have to learn how to open
to it
um and to receive. So yeah, that would be some
of the main issues I see with people so much
self judgment around their body, around being worthy of receiving
love and pleasure or going for a business that they really,
really want and self worth. Um And self esteem is
(17:51):
insidious like in our culture. Um So that's, yeah, definitely
the main things that I see more people settling, like
really settling in their work in their relationships in their
sex life. Um
and just thinking that that's what it has to be
and that's what it will be and that makes me cry.
I'm like, fuck no
Speaker 1 (18:11):
100%. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It sort of, it
really kills the joy, doesn't it?
Yeah. Wow. Can you um explain. So I guess what,
what do you, so what do you do? Like, I mean,
can you just share, I guess some elements of some
of the work that you do to help unlock that
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I can try a bit. But a lot of my
work is mystery work. I don't know if you heard
like feminine Mysteries, a lot of it, if I would
say it will be completely out of context. But teaching
people to breathe, to like breathe or so many of
us only chest
if you need to breathe all the way down to
your belly, in order to be able to be connected
to your pleasure, even be able to move in, in
(18:56):
move in their body. I teach people a lot about
dance and about free movement and about sensual movement. Um
teaching people authentic communication,
um eye gazing, being able to speak your truth. I
teach a lot of people about this beautiful practice in
my community called sharing where um and this is so
(19:16):
intense for a lot of people. When they come to workshops,
I'll end up popping you in a group,
group of four or five and each person has five
minutes where they will just speak and no one else
will speak. You will just share what is happening in
your heart. Um And, you know, we can speak back
and forth at a cafe for hours with our friends.
But
(19:37):
for so many women, when they just have that spotlight
and they just have to speak. It's so hard for
them to take up that space. Um And a lot
will like cut themselves off after a minute usually. And
they have to develop the muscle of feeling. I can
keep speaking and just share what's going on because there's
a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, 100% 100%.
So,
you know, sex and self pleasure are obviously, there's still
taboo around it in, in many parts of the world.
What strategies do you use to help your clients and
the broader public break down those stigmas?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I think II I really show case it in myself
like um living, I, I think a very pleasure filled life.
Like I usually feel myself dancing every morning or like
giving myself a beautiful massage. I can't feel myself giving
myself a breast massage but like just like
kind of inviting and then also inviting my, have a
(20:33):
private like telegram group where we can share more um
publicly videos and photos of ourselves. Like so many women,
like when they start to feel empowered, want to have
like a beautiful naked photo of themselves and be celebrated.
Um In that a community would be that my main
way of um
building like the strength of of this work is they
(20:54):
don't need to always be working with me. Like once
they've made really strong sisters, they'll usually go off and
they'll go to festivals together and other retreats. And that
makes me happy. Like it's just about like spreading this
work and community is the strongest way. I think it's
a culture. It's kind of like a cultural movement I
would say.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
And this is actually quite a nice segue to my
next question because I was, you know, we, we talk
a lot about purpose right on the bus and, and
for you, I guess what is the core mission driving
your academy and, and how do you keep that at
the center of everything you do?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Hm. I think love, like corny as it may seem.
I'm so devoted to love and love. For me includes
sexuality and pleasure. We're all here because of sex. Um, unless, well,
some people not, I guess these days of IVF, but
most of us more or less
but like, love is, yeah, for me, as a, you know,
(21:55):
somewhat spiritual person is like the strongest force like on earth.
And I don't think that you can be fully inhabiting
like a life of love if you're not accepting your body,
your worth, um your pleasure, that of your friends, that
of your mothers um and all the people around you.
So that, that really keeps me going.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah. Amazing.
So, you know, you, you've shared your work and, and
your own journey of, of reclaiming that self worth. How
have your personal experiences shaped the way you approach your coaching,
practice
Speaker 2 (22:30):
so many different ways that I, I do, I it
gets reflected to me a lot like I am living
like what I'm teaching a lot, but also surrounding myself.
I go to a lot of trainings like I love
to study with best teachers in my field and
I'm having my one lived experience, but there's so many
different ways like that people are experiencing it. So a
(22:51):
lot of my work is also rooted in Taoism, which
as someone who I mentioned at the start can be
really fast. The dow is really a
like slowness. Um And like, you know, the strongest tree
didn't just grow overnight. It's, it's slow. So I think
actually I would say a few years ago, I was
(23:13):
probably also more fast as a coach of like,
you know, the marketing that you can see like transform
your life in eight weeks and two days cosmopolitan like
39 positions. And yeah, it's a bit cringe, but I'll
admit that I kind of bought into that for a while,
but I'm just really living and, and seeing in my
(23:38):
clients and in myself like that deep,
deep change like happens slowly because it took a long
time for us to get to the patterns and behaviors
that we're in. Um but it happened slowly as even
a small change can feel massive. So that's, it doesn't
need to like happen overnight. So I'm really interested these
(24:00):
days in working with clients who are committed long term
to really embodying like long lasting change in their lives
and not
putting the pressure of I need, I just want to
have an orgasm. Now, I just wanna like
Speaker 1 (24:13):
that real achievement and instant gratification. It's
Speaker 2 (24:17):
part of our society. I need it now, now now
and I, I'm not into it anymore and just go slow.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, great. I guess, you know, we, we spoke a
bit earlier about, you know, your circle and, and, and
a big personal challenge was coming out and saying this is,
you know, this is what I do. Um
You've obviously overcome that,
have they impacted the way that you work with others now? Like,
is that still something that you, um, are very mindful of?
(24:50):
Or you
just
Speaker 2 (24:53):
like in saying what I do? Um No, I just
kind of own it. Like I, I sometimes have vulnerability
hangovers um, with sharing something and, and actually I have
learned to, I think younger I would share everything and
I'm learning to like some things are for me. Yeah. Yeah.
(25:15):
So some things are just like I had a previous
partner actually say like
you wrote about like something I didn't name him or anything,
but he just knew that it was about us. And
he's like, I didn't like that. You did that. And
that was a really good lesson for me. I was like, OK,
not everything is like a
marketing like experience in my life like what is sacred
(25:37):
and what is just for me versus what is like
a beautiful lesson and I feel wants to be shared.
It's a kind of I'm always dancing the edge of
that one if you have an experience like that. But
Speaker 1 (25:50):
yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. So
at this part in your journey, now, what would have,
what would have been nice to know at the very
beginning of your journey.
Looking back,
Speaker 2 (26:05):
you're gonna do great like you're gonna do so well.
Um
let yourself be supported by people.
I mean, I became organized anyway, but like focus on organization.
That's been a massive
assistant to my growth. Um
(26:27):
Yeah, and go slow. It's not a race that you're
in this for the long haul. So you don't need
to race to some kind of finish line. That's not
a finish line. Um Just enjoy your life while you
do it. Um
Yeah, invest in yourself and your self care as well.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
And I think that's a really, that those are really
awesome messages for that entrepreneurial life too, right? Because I
think sometimes you, people think they have to, like you say,
they have to jump in, they have to make it
happen really quick. They have to, you know, be super successful,
they have to. But I think um yeah, there's a
lot to be said for that slow growing tree and
(27:09):
also investing in yourself. I think that's really important too
in the entrepreneur space, you know, making sure that,
that you're investing in yourself to give yourself the best
chance.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah, working with mentors. Um
like I'm not usually a figures person, but I've been
really learning like to understand numbers much more emotionally intelligent
than like like numbers literacy. And I've seen that I've
actually doubled my revenue every year for the past four years.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Well
done. Congratulations. That's
Speaker 2 (27:41):
it. I was like, wow.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
And
how have you done
that?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Working with business coaches? Yeah, like, I've worked with some
exceptional
Speaker 1 (27:49):
coaches
or
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I've worked with coaches, uh, business coaches who are also
somatic based. So they'll teach you like logistic things. But
they'll also teach me to, like, be in your body
and read because that's important to me.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
And I think that's really important. Yeah, that's really important.
I think that's, that's the gap that's often missed. Is that, um, that, uh,
emotional pace?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Absolutely. I have a program like, coming up soon and
I have been like, oh, the numbers aren't what I
thought they would be. I've been, you know, doing so
much work behind the scenes and the writing and the
posting and my friend, you know, also an entrepreneur said
to me, yeah. But have you been doing any magic?
Have you been doing any embodiment? And I was like, no.
So I got out, I got a, bought a rose
(28:38):
and I lay down like a petal for each person.
I wanted to manifest like into the circle for the,
for the workshop and like, say a little prayer, had
a little dance and I woke up the next morning
and two more people had signed up. I was like, oh, yeah,
I just have to like, come out of my head
and also just like, do my witchy things.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, 100%. And I think, yeah, that's,
that's so important, isn't it? To
Speaker 2 (29:02):
just read what the intention? What's
Speaker 1 (29:05):
the intention? And I think every business owner should do that. Absolutely.
They should absolutely do that. Set the intention.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
It can just be a vision board or it doesn't
have to be like, you know, roses. It could be
Speaker 1 (29:16):
100%. And, you know, it can also just be, um,
goal setting, right, and break those goals down. And it's,
and it's goal setting and that,
that direction pa is a key part of your motivation
because when you've got direction, you've got motivation and that
keeps it keeps you
(29:36):
going.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Absolutely. There's a really cool practice called sex magic, which
is the ultimate manifestation practice. It's like you write down
the goal, then you do a self pleasure session on
the goal, like visualizing it happening and then afterwards you
write down all the action steps that you need to take, like,
Speaker 1 (29:55):
listen,
get on board. I love that. Great
Speaker 2 (30:00):
pleasure is a creative force.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
So then we come down to, you know, measures of success.
Often we talk about what measures are success and they're
all different for different businesses in different stages of business.
What would you say your measures of success were when
you started and where they are now,
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I'm now at the point where I can almost entirely
just live off my
Yeah, business. If in a year, I mean, that's I
have for the last two years. Occasionally I take like
little other jobs but mostly I just
sustain myself with my business. That feels enormous. Yeah. Absolutely.
Still go overseas and do other things. Um Also like
(30:43):
my self care, I think that that is a really
big measure of success is that I can still go
and get my hair done and you know, take care
of yourself. It depends on the type of person you are.
But I notice like
I'm Irish, we have more of a like, you know,
hold on to your money to be able to let your,
(31:05):
your business support your self care as well. Feels like
a success to me. And
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I
think that's also AAA really great um thing for any
business owner is to carve out that time, you know,
carve out that time and carve out those rewards, right?
Because that's reward like
a reward for me is getting a blow wave every Thursday.
Um You know, like that, that's, that's my reward for,
(31:32):
you know, working the kind of hours that you need
to work business off the ground and, and it's
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Thursday today and your hair looks great. So, no, really, otherwise,
like the, the goalpost is never in end, like you're
just constantly going 100
Speaker 1 (31:49):
percent and you're never really satisfied either. And that's really
important is, isn't it, is to like, be grounded and
be really grateful and satisfied with how far
you've got?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, absolutely. I think that makes me think of another
like
measure of success is like having community. I did find
starting off in entrepreneurship. It's, it can be lonely. It's
a very, it's a self driven thing
Speaker 1 (32:16):
and especially, I, I, you know, I don't mean to
keep bringing it back but it is a really unique
field that you're in and, you know, you go to
a B and I networking group and you ain't gonna
find someone in your trade at the end of the day,
I think, you know, it can be lonely anyway, let alone. Yeah. So,
how have
you?
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Well, I'm such a yeah, community person that I've like
created the group chats, like with uh like all the
women who do my work. Um We recently I was
presenting at a festival and I like organized us to
all camp together, all the women doing sexuality. And it
was so amazing because like
Lydia's doing becoming all multi-orgasmic. My other friend's doing sacred slut.
(32:58):
I'm doing like seasons of pleasure and we're all taking
each other's photos and we're all like supporting each other.
And yeah, it just felt really nourishing to have that support.
So like if you're not the person who's the group starter,
like find someone that is in your industry. Um But
I also really enjoy being connected to my entrepreneurial friends
(33:20):
who are not exactly in my
um my genius of work because it's nice to have like,
we actually have a group with four friends and we like,
reflect to each other, like what we're seeing in each
other's businesses, what we're celebrating, keep each other accountable for
doing the celebrations. Like, have you treated yourself recently, like
working really hard and that's important as well.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah, super
important. I've actually just joined an entrepreneurial group back in,
in August. And you know, I'm
connecting with, you know, 23 of them every day. And
it's so nice because there's that accountability piece which is
part of, you know, community, which again is another key
(34:05):
driver in the, in the motivation piece, right? I believe this,
I've got this motivation theory around um direction, routine and
connection, how they all, you know, are crucial to, to
Speaker 2 (34:18):
totally direction regine connection.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah. Yeah. Um So I think, yeah, again, it's that
it's that piece of finding your tribe, right? Finding your
circle and having people in a different industry is also
really great because they can reflect back to you, you know, questions. Well,
why do you do it that way? And
that makes you think? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Totally. Yeah. I've got a friend who's a few friends
that are in so not my industry at all. And
it's like they've given me some of the best feedback
because they have more of a bird's eye view and
they're not like emotionally invested in um Yeah, in the field,
like the way that others who do what I do are.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah. Yeah, I love it. I love it.
So, you know, for, we spoke about, for listeners who,
you know, I might, might be starting off in a
new space. What about listeners who are, you know, in
the space, but they might have lost their motivation a bit.
We've talked about my motivation. But what about you? Like,
(35:23):
what advice would you give to someone who is kind
of losing their business mojo and, and needed a bit
of a perk up. Not
Speaker 2 (35:30):
so fair enough. I mean,
season I really believe in like, the cyclic nature of like,
things in life. Like you might be just having a winter, um,
with that and, and that's ok because after winter, like
spring does always come. But you have to really, like,
I would say, listen, like, what is this winter asking you?
Do you actually need a break? Like, do you actually
(35:51):
need to like fully pause everything? And I just went
up the coast for six weeks and like paused, you know,
a lot of what I've had on my plate and
I feel so recharged, like, maybe you just need to
step off the treadmill for reals, like for a bit
and come back with fresh inspiration. Um
And yeah, sitcom return to the intention. Like, why are
(36:12):
you actually doing this? Because I think the intention can
get lost when
we're just doing admin and all the other things. And
I was like, what, why, why am I doing this? Like, and,
and ask is that still good enough a reason for
me to be doing this? And if it's a no,
then maybe it is time for it to be shifted
and die. But if it's a yes, then,
(36:34):
yeah, it will come back out of the winter into spring.
You just need to nourish and what do we do
in winter? We rest, we just let it go and
allow us of space to come back with energy and motivation.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
And I think, and amongst all of that is trusting
the process. Right. Trusting, which is a very
tough one.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
It's very hard. The mystery is so such a motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Oh Yeah. Oh
Yeah. Oh,
Speaker 2 (37:05):
the mystery.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah. Yeah. Chloe, you're such a force of self love. You're,
you're like so calm and cool and you've got this
amazing energy. But you can see there's like so much
determination and, and force behind what you, what you do.
And I know our listeners are going to take away
a lot more,
you know, than they were attending to from today's episode.
(37:30):
So I really
Speaker 2 (37:30):
appreciate. Thank you. I also really enjoy your calm and
very deep wealth of knowledge and holding space.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
That's my pleasure. Thank you. Are there any parting words
that you could give uh a listener who is in
that entrepreneurial space? Logging it out? What would, what's your,
what's your parting pears of wisdom,
Speaker 2 (37:53):
include self pleasure in your business. The best ideas that
you will have will come after a nice beautiful breast
massage or session with your dildo or laying in the
sun naked, whatever like much more juicy eyes will. Ideas
will come from you than slogging over your laptop for
hours and hours and not having a break.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah. OK. I love that. Good, good, good, good way
to finish. Good way to finish. So as we wrap up,
what's next for you? Tell us what you're up to
next.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Oh, I'm running my circle. Pussy Palace this Sunday. I'm
running embodying the queen within a training. I'm running my
retreat in next retreat in February. I'm gonna run a
six month mentorship for people wanting to deepen into self love.
And I'm probably gonna be taking my retreat to Europe.
Um You wanna see my granny as well?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Very exciting. That's really exciting. What about someone who's, you know,
on their own journey of personal growth and, and self
discovery and changing up direction?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Well,
I'll just say the same thing in a different way,
like include self pleasure in your life. I really see
it as such a missing piece of people's life. Um
Pleasure is self care. It's a way to nourish yourself.
Um
And, and connect to your heart as well because especially in,
(39:16):
are you listeners, mostly women or all genders,
Speaker 1 (39:19):
there's a bit
of combination, a couple of genders
Speaker 2 (39:24):
either way like connecting to your like, I think that
pleasure is connects us to our heart and to the
softness inside of ourselves. So keep that on the menu.
Lots of people forget about it
Speaker 1 (39:38):
and I guess what might be nice to know if
that seems so foreign for someone if they're listening to and,
and they just seem so far away from that. What
are some sort of bridging steps that, you know?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Well, in my example, you know, I said laying the
sun pleasure often think it has to be genital based.
It doesn't like what just gives you pleasure, like,
um, buying yourself an ice cream and like, just sitting
down and not touching your phone and just eating it
and just like enjoying the sensations for that full 10
minutes that you eat it or five minutes or two,
(40:12):
whatever it takes like pleasure is actually available to us
every single day, like
driving in the car and realizing you're tense and like,
how can you just soften your legs and like be
more at, at ease in your body, at your gym class?
How can you like notice when I put down the weights?
(40:33):
It feels like, oh, that feels so nice. Like just
bringing more awareness of the pleasure that's there all the
time in our lives.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
You're
so right. I love that. Just that presence to all
the little things.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Hey, that's tant. Really? That's what Tres about. Yeah,
Speaker 1 (40:51):
God, some people have got it so wrong, haven't they?
I love that Chloe. Thank you so much. Thank you
so much for joining us today. Your insights and openness
have been so refreshing. Um And yeah, I know our
audience is gonna appreciate um all that you've said and
hopefully walk away, feeling empowered to embrace their authentic selves
(41:13):
or at least have some tips and tricks to get
them there. So, thanks so much. Thank you so much
for having me.
Thank you for joining us here on the Buzz for
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