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September 18, 2025 192 mins

Join us for an enlightening experience as Metaphysician and Master Herbalist Doctah B takes the spotlight in our classroom! He will share essential insights into how we can prepare for next Monday’s Fall Equinox, while also uncovering the fascinating connections between telomeres, toxins, and parasites. You’ll also hear from the brilliant Math Guru Akil Parker, alongside DC activist Dr. Kokayi Patterson. Dr. Patterson, an innovative acupuncturist, will introduce a groundbreaking method utilizing plant seeds instead of needles to treat patients—an approach you won’t want to miss!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Carl Nelson Show, win the most submission Learning and Advances.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
And grand Rising family and actually joining us for another
wellness Wednesday later, the master herbalist and metaphysician, Doctor B
will return to our classroom now. Doctor B will explain
how we should prepare for next Monday's Fall Equinox and
also connect the dots between telemares, talxings and parasites. For
doctor B, though math guru A kil Parker will check
in and momentarily DC activists, the acupuncturist doctor Kokai Patterson

(00:51):
will join us. But right now, let's go to Kevin
to see if're going to know if the classroom doors
and get this program started. Grand Rising, Kevin.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Grand Rising, indeed, Carl Nelson, get out your pencils and papers,
ladies and gentlemen, ring the bell. Class will now begin
at the Carl Nelson's Joke University of Advanced Learning and
Cognitive Advancement.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Do you like that, Carl? How feeling?

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I love that description? So how you feeling the car
I'm still learning, Kevin, I'm still learning?

Speaker 5 (01:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:26):
And of course of course you are, because after all,
it's what keeps you young, and you look young.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Bro, no, thank you. So what's training in the news
this morning for us?

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well, remember a name we haven't heard in a while.
I don't know about you, but I haven't. And Tim Walls,
remember Tim Walls vice presidenttional candidate exactly. He says he's
going to seek a third term as Minnesota's governor. And Minnesota, well,
he said tuesday that he'll see that term in the

(02:01):
twenty twenty sixth elections, hoping then beat the odds to
become the longest serving governor in a state where voters
have usually said two terms are enough.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
What do you think? Well, in that same you know,
speaking of Minnesota, Kevin the Democrat who won the special
election to replace the former Minnesota lawmaker Melissa Hartman. You
may recall she was murdered in her house alongside her
husband and a dog back in Jewe And this young
man Lee defeated the Republican in Tuesday's election to fill
that state seat. So people looking at at and see

(02:33):
if this is a turning point. It's just, you know,
because people think that the Republicans are going to run
away with everything in the midterms. But seems like the
Democrats have spoken up. But here's the interesting part of
one of the one of the places he represents, the
Brooklyn Park, Champlain and a place called Coon Rapids, Minnesota. Yes,
cool rapids. I like, wait a minute, well anyway.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Well maybe they mean the animal.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
That could be. I think for sure.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
The implications are just everything from funny to make you angry. Right, Look,
I think that what is that's that's what's encouraging Tim Walls.
As a matter of fact. Oh yeah, that whole like
you said, that whole tipping point of politics. Is it

(03:24):
tipping back to the Democrats now? And Tim Wall says,
I've seen how we help each other through the hard times,
and boy, we've seen some terrible times this year. I'm heartbroken,
angry about the beautiful people we lost, the gun violence.
But it's in these moments we have to come together.
We can't lose hope, because I've seen what we can

(03:44):
do when we work together. And Vice President Kamala Harris
picked Walls as a running mate, like you said, back
for the twenty twenty four campaign, and Ohio Senator JD.
Van says, these guys just weird. It's all about politics.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, it's politics.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, And Walls is sixty one and so hopefully things
will work out for him. In other news, a Democrat
related so to speak, former President Barack Obama says Charlie
kirk assassination was horrific, and he praises Utah Governor Cox

(04:27):
for his response. He says, regardless of where you are
on the political spectrum, what happened to Charlie Kirk was
horrific and a tragedy. And Obama went on to say
that Charlie Kirk was a young man with two children
and a wife, who obviously and had a huge number
of friends and supporters who cared about him, five million

(04:49):
to be exact, and so we have to extend grace
to people during their period of morning and shock. He
said this as the featured speaker at an event for
the Jefferson Educational Society, an Eerie based nonprofit organization, and
he's broken about his concerns over escalating political violence in

(05:09):
recent years, saying the country is at an inflection point.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, you know. And he got slammed for that for
that speech too, because they thought people thought it was
capitulating to the Republicans and you know, bowing down. And
I don't think that's where he saw it, but you
know what's interesting in all this what the aftermath of
the Kirk shooting and Obama speaking out President Obama, former
President Obama. We haven't heard anything from the Bushes. The
Bushes have been silent, and wondering what that silence, what

(05:40):
that silence is conveying. You know, he said they well
they used to control the Republican Party. Now it's the
actually MAGA party. Have they silenced him or are they?
Are they just in vocal exile. I don't know, but
I'm winning us. You know, because you mentioned Obama said something,
but nothing from the bushes.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Well, sometimes silence is the best answer, you know, it said.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
It is an answer.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, it speaks way more voluminously than coming up with
some rhetoric and you know, trying to say you either
support or don't support the guy that right now, you know,
is one of the most powerful people in the world.
And sometimes sailings can actually say say what it needs

(06:26):
to say.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
And in all fairness, they've been quiet, not on just issue,
but they have been really quiet since the election, and
even before the election they were kind of quiet. So
it's not surprising. But they haven't said anything, and you
know they are in Texas and I expect there's something
to come out of the say, make a statement or
something or on either side, but they've just been quiet.
I find out. I find that interesting.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Well, I hear you, man, And finally on a on
an entertainment tip about that, uh, the purple rains start. Apolonia.
You have heard that name in a while, either.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
Have you?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Right? Haven't heard that?

Speaker 3 (07:04):
She's sue she's suing the Princess State to keep the
name Apollonia. The actress born Patricia Kato, wants to keep
her professional moniker and she's sixty six years old and
for some reason she needs to keep that name. Paisley
Park Enterprises fouled to suspend usage of the name in

(07:24):
twenty nineteen and in twenty twenty one with the Trademark
Trial and Appeal Board, but neither the case has yet
been resolved. The estate says that Kato signed over the
rights to the use of the name and the contracts
she signed for the movie Purple Ring. Yet she's used
the name in her professional career ever since, which included
a role on Falcon Cress in the eighties and other

(07:48):
TV shows. And you know, I'll still always see her
as Apollonia.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
You know, so what about she just known the name.
I think Prince gave her that name and then, as
you mentioned, she signed it over he did the movie
Purple Rain, so she you know, she really doesn't own
the name. He'll probably sell out of court. You know
how they do, Kevin, they'll privately sell it out of court.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Okay, she was young then, you know, she didn't realize
that the movie was going to be a hit. Nor
was the name Appollonia gonna be something that she could brand.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
I suppose, you.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Know, yeah, but it all start with Prince. You know,
That's that's the whole deal. Would she be suing now
or if Prince were still alive, that's the question. He
gave her that name, he created her persona, He owns
it and unfortunately didn't leave a will, so he went
through appropriate and everything in the estate. Now, that's why
people are challenging everything in the estate. I don't think

(08:43):
the state needs the name, so they'll probably work out something, maybe,
you know, to get a percentage of whatever she uses.
You know, when she uses is a stage name, you
can use it, but you're gonna have to give us,
you know what, ten twenty percent or something like that.
It'll probably end up in an out of court settlement.
I don't cause it's a lot to fight these issues.
And at the end of the day, is it worth it.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Well, if two hundred and twelve million dollars means anything,
it might be worth it. I Meanwhile, the estate says
that we invited her to use her professional name and
to perform at Paisley Park and she refused to do that.
So what's the deal anyway, that's what's trending girl. On

(09:28):
this Wednesday, right the seventeenth of September, at six ten,
we've got your guest standing by.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Thanks for thanks, Gerry. All right, doctor Kai Patterson, Grand rising,
and welcome back to the program.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
Grand Randy. Good morning to you, Krazy and to the
wol family.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Brother, Doctor Kay Patterson, you count with a new way
to treat acupuncture. You mentioned this to me and I've
never heard this before. Can you explain me to our audience?

Speaker 5 (10:01):
Sure? Sure, I had talked about the concept of acupuncture detox,
which of course goes back to the Opium Wars when
Malse Tongue had commissioned what he called barefoot doctors, which
is what I am, which is what I've been training
folk in that concept. That barefoot doctor is what we

(10:25):
would call the community activist who has a medical pack
on their side and goes out and does the work
to heal the community, but politicizes them too in order
for them to become a part of the process of
healing the community. Doctor Mattu Chikor in nineteen seventy witnessed

(10:46):
acupuncture being used. He had a son who was in
an automobile accident. One of his children, they were paralyzed,
and Yuriko Chiyama, who was a very very close and
intimate friend of Malcolm Xus, took him to Chinatown and
he smelt the moxa, which is an herb that they

(11:09):
burned and heat up the point and he says, wow,
what is that. She says, well, that's moxa and they
used it to heal. He said, you think it would
work on my children? Of course, long story, Sure that did.
And at that same year he was working at Lincoln
Hospital that was using a methodone concept, which is a

(11:31):
drug that they used to curtail a person's addictions and
withdrawals and stuff.

Speaker 6 (11:36):
For the game.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
It's a drug that you used to deal with a
drug I remember using that drug myself, and I'll talk
about that in a minute. When I was a child
at what sixteen years of age, seventeen years of age,
we had access to it back in the sixties, and
the tumu was saying like, no, we can't use this methadone,
so let's take this acupuncture. So he took the acupuncture

(12:00):
back to Lincoln Hospital. And at that time, him being
a citizen of the Republic of New Africa, a lot
of people think that he was a Black Panther Party member,
but he was not. He was a citizen of the
Republican and worked very very close with the two founding
members of the New York chapter, Sekuldinga in Blao Suni Ili.

(12:24):
They remember when he came into the office at age
sixteen and they's like, who is this little guy? He's
all fired up. But Matulu continued on and decided to
introduce that acupuncture to Lincoln. At that time, you had
Black Panthers, Young Lord's Party, Republic Now Africa, members of RAM,

(12:44):
the Revolutionary Action Movement, and so many other political organizations
that were working at Lincoln. But those were three of
the main ones, and they decided to adopt that and
build an acupuncture collective. I remember my first time seeing
acupuncture myself. I was about seventeen and a half and

(13:06):
I walked into a program in DC after being addicted
to drugs and alcohol from age thirteen up until that point,
and walking to a revolutionary progressive drug program in New
York that was working with the Black Panther Party RAP Incorporated,
directed by a gentleman by the name of ron ADESA.

(13:28):
Clark who was my mentee for about forty five years
and running from that point. And he was using acupuncture
at this program when I walked in the door in
nineteen seventy. This is two years before I meet Matula Shakor.
And at the same time I'm seeing this and witnessing
this acupuncture here in DC, Matulu is actually implementing it

(13:53):
in a drug program in New York. I finally wind
up meeting Hulu in nineteen seventy two, I went to Gary,
Indiana to promote anti police violence and brutality. We were
against methadone. We needed proper education. So we went up

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there with a platform and Matusia Corps was there and
they had commandeered the convention. And you're talking thousands and
thousands of people in this hall, and they had commandeered
the stage and began to talk about the need to
use a drug free approach to treat the hundreds of

(14:34):
thousands of black and brown people around the country who
were addicted to drugs. And on that day I met him,
and thirty days later we formed an organization called Bad
Blacks Against Drugs, which again was a collaboration of revolutionary

(14:56):
progressive if you will, drug programs around the country, Ideal
Elect Philadelphia, Projecting Mojib in Detroit, and a few others,
and we began to promote the need for a cultural
approach to drug treatment too. So with those two things
in hand, we were able to implement a acupuncture detox

(15:20):
process at Lincoln Hospital where we were treating on average,
and it was amazing just to see it. Three hundred
to six hundred people daily getting free acupuncture at Lincoln Hospital.
The project worked so well that they were attacked. They

(15:42):
murdered our doctor. One of these people from the White
House was on the tour of the facility and they
discovered our doctor's body in a closet, and of course
we really believed it was a hot shot and they
murdered them, but they still dance around that. But here
they attacked this program because this particular protocol or process

(16:06):
was such that we were not only able to deal
with alcohol addiction, herorn addiction, cocaine addiction, alcohol addiction, but
it also helped to remedy the results of the trauma
that we experience in our community every day. Here we

(16:27):
are looking at acupuncture points that will help to deal
with stress, anxiety, sleeknessness, anger, frustration, fear, grief, sadness, loneliness, separation, anxiety,

(16:48):
things that are a result direct result of post traumatic
stress slavery syndrome r.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Holthough, right there, doctor Capas, and we're going to step
aside for a few minutes and we come back though,
because you mentioned all the elements that the acupuncture can cure.
But tell us about the puncture, the points on the
body and how do you figure that out? Which way
do you stick folks with the needle to do that?
They if you know one stick cures all. I'll let

(17:18):
you respond that when we get back, But we got
to take the short break. Family, you want to join
our conversation with doctor Guy Patterson. Reach out to us
at eight hundred four or five zero, seventy eight to
seventy six, and we'll take your phone calls next.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Now back to the Carl Nelson Show.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Thanks of waking up with us on this another wellness Wednesday.
It's a hump day. That means we're halfway through the
work week with our guest, doctor g. Guy Patterson is
a DC activist and also acupuncturist. Doctor Patterson, before we left,
you were saying that the fact that acupuncture can cure
all these ailments that one has kind of like what
doctor Sabe says there's only one illness, is that the

(18:14):
idea of acupuncture there's only one illness and therefore we
only need one cure.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
No, not necessary, but yes, there is what we call
and imbalance, and there's always an imbalance that takes place.
And when doctor Saby talks about the mucus that causes
that same imbalance, we're still talking about the same thing.
So when acupuncture then balances that take place as a
result of diet, environment, you know, accepter and doctor Sabey

(18:45):
says the same thing, but it all equals up as
far as he's concerned to mucus and garbage and toxins.
In the body. Well, acupuncture addresses those same things. Before
I go further, let me first of all thank my mom,
Miss Naomi Pearl Lion, who was a nurse extraordinary and
she's the one who gave me my bedside manner, along

(19:07):
with my grandmother who was also a nurse. And my
mother worked at the Freedman's Hospital, which was the first
black hospital, which I was where I was born in
nineteen fifty two. But she's the one who inspired me
to get into the Still. So going back to talking
about acupuncture and how it's able to heal all of

(19:27):
these different modalities that we deal with, acupuncture goes back,
you know, they say, to China five thousand years. I
found and did some research and found acupuncture needles and
equipment on the papyrus papers, which of course we now
know that the people in Africa migrated up up north
to China, et cetera, and spread that too. But here

(19:50):
we have a two that's able to manipulate the body's energy.
So acupuncture we're able to insertain needles and specific points
in the body that are attached to a highway or
highways what we call meridians that run up and down
the body from the top to the bottom named after

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and associated with different systems as well as organs in
the body. So that's body acupuncture with aurricular acupuncture, which
is what we specialize in and dealing with this particular protocol.
We have what's called the vegus nerve that runs from
the ear, and that nerve attaches itself internally to all

(20:34):
of the organs and the systems. So when we treat
the long point in the ear, we're able to stimulate
that point via the vegas nerve that's attached to that lung,
and the lung the motion associated with that is grief.
That's why I say we can treat grief and sadness
and loneliness and separation anxiety. There's another nerve ending from

(20:58):
that vegas nerve attached the ear that goes to the liver. Therefore,
we can treat that point stimulate liver physiology, which has
to do with cleansing the blood and helping to produce good,
clean flowing of blood, as well as dealing with the
emotion of anger, emotional and balance and frustration. We also

(21:21):
can connect to the kidney and by treating excuse me,
by treating and manipulating that point, we can deal with
the physiology of the kidney, and of course the drainal
brands set on top of that, so we're dealing with
the issue of fight and flight. So when we treat
that point, we can assist an individual who's very timidive,

(21:41):
you know, very very quiet and cool and walking around
scared and anxious all the time. We can calm that
down and strengthen that person's will and they become more
active and more wanting to do different things. That's the
same thing with the heart, when we treat the heart,
when we treat the spleen, and the emotion associated with

(22:01):
the screen is worry and overthinking. And this is one
of the major things that I love about acupuncture because
not only are we able to treat the physiology of
the person by manipulating that body's energy that's associated with
that system or that organ, we're able to treat the
whole person. As we talk about treating the spirit, the mind,

(22:23):
the body, and of course having an effect on the
environment and that process. So acupuncture we're able to manipulate
all of this energy that's in the body that comes
from what we call cheat chi is another word for
energy Kundalini force you know, et cetera, or life force,

(22:43):
et cetera. This is called chia.

Speaker 7 (22:46):
That chi.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
An individual derives that energy from a few things. One
the natural source of cheap air, water, grain chi we
call it, which is food. And then we talk about
the original chief, which is inherited from your mama and
your daddy, you know, your constitution where you're born. We

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have some babies that are weak and some babies that
are stronger. Some people have some birth defects, etcetera. And
all of that's inherited from their parents and the environment
that they're born in. But we're able to gain adjust
those things as that individual is growing, you know, through
a dietary process, but more so helping the body to

(23:30):
gain its balance and function properly, to be able to
process you know, you know what's going into the body,
how the body is working, and how the body is
able to release toxins you know that can cause these diseases.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
All right, twenty six after their family just waking up.
Our guess is doctor Kakai Patterson is an acupuncture is
also an activist in Washington, DC. We're going to get
in some of those issues as well. But doctor Patterson,
how long does it take for it to work? You know,
we're in the microwave generation now. People expect to take
a bill or to get an ingestion, get a shot
immediately it's going to work. So for acupuncture, how long

(24:08):
does it take before you see a change? We lost
the doctor Patterson. Kevin? Okay, well, Kevin is doing that.
Welcome to Wellness Wednesday. We're going to continue to talk
about health with the master herbalist, the metaphysician later this morning,
doctor B. Doctor B is going to explain how we
should prepare for next Monday's fall equinox. That's when there's
equal a number of the daylight and darkness, and that's

(24:30):
going to take place next Monday, Monday afternoon. And also
all right, great, the question was, you know, because we're
in the microwave generation right now, people want to see
instant results. And so how long does it take after
you've taken these acupuncture shots? And what do you call
them shots or jab after you've taken the treatment, so

(24:50):
let me call them treatments to be you know, sort
of correctly. Yeah, how long how long does it? How
long does it before you used to see some results?
You notice a change.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
Yeah, yeah, you know, each situation is a little different.
You know, a little quick story Senor Baye, who you know,
is one of the past president and I a Negro
approve association. Me and him go way way back, and
whenever he introduces me, introduces me as a stick up kid.
He is the greatest stick up kid in Washington, d C. So, yeah,
people have just thought about needles, but it depends on

(25:23):
the individual. I've treated things like cy Ataka where people
have had this pain running down their legs and down
their back for two three four years and was able
to change it in one or two treatments, and then
other situations it would take a month, you know, two
three four weeks of treatment. Same thing with migraine headaches.
I've treated migraine headaches and they've disappeared after one or

(25:46):
two treatments. Other situations that might take a longer period
of time. In the game, this has to do with
the individual's constitution and their ability to make the adjustments,
as well as some of the supportive things that one
would deal with. One of the things that's different about
here in America as opposed to other countries like China,
where that's the major too, that they use that if

(26:08):
someone comes into the office and they have high blood pressure.
And I attempted to do this as much as I could.
But when someone would come into the office and they
have high blood pressure, we know that they're dealing with
that every day, twenty four hours a day. And here
in this country they would tell a person come back
once a week or maybe twice a week for treatment.

(26:31):
That would stretch that process out. So I come in
on Monday with high blood pressure, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday five.
The rest of the week, I may be taking my medication,
or dealing with herbs, or dealing with some things. And
that's not really supportive as it relates to dealing with
a condition like high blood pressure, where that person needs
to be treated every day. So in China, a person

(26:54):
would come in and get a prescription where they would
get ten treatments. They would have to come in every
day for ten days to arrest the issue as well
as address it on a daily basis, as opposed to
stretching that out. But here in America we dealing with capitalism.
You know, we're dealing with them keeping a client coming
back to the offices. Our doctors make their money. You

(27:15):
got to go back for a follow up every two
or three months just on GP, you know, a lot
of times, and nothing changes as it relates to the
condition of how blood pressure, diabetes, you know, and some
of the other things that we're dealing with. So again,
it depends on the individual and everybody's body, you know,
kind of responds differently. You got a person that's very,

(27:38):
very healthy, we write, taking vitamins. We got a lot
more material to be able to work with that the
body can metabolize and break down and help to heal itself.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
All right. Thirty after the top, they with doctor Patterson.
Doctor Patterson acupuncture. Where did it start? Because it seems
like when I heard about it was the Asians. It
seems to have cornered the acupuncture bass. And they said,
you know, they would tell me they started in Japan
or somewhere in Asia, but you'd say different. How come
explain that to us?

Speaker 5 (28:07):
Yeah, well, you know, I asked several people back in
the day Tony Browner and many other historians back in
the eighties and so forth about acupuncture, and they all say, hey, man,
you gotta do some research yourself. I spoke with a
gentleman by the name of Tayawiksel, who ran what's called
the African Martial Arts Institute, and he directed me to

(28:28):
call a couple of people and when I did, they
directed me to the Internet and said google acupuncture needles
on the forapyrus papers. And I said, what are you
serious and they said sure. And I mentioned that earlier
today and they said sure, brother, it's gonna blow your mind.
So I googled it up and boomed there it was

(28:50):
called acupuncture needles. The moxa which is the herbal stick
that they used to heat up the acupuncture points, the cups,
the little round was that you see swimmers and athletes
have these round circles on their back from that particular
concept of cupping. They had glass cups there, and they
had two or three or four other pieces of equipment

(29:12):
that an acupunctures would know what they were. And I said,
oh my god, we really did discover this acupuncture because
I remember seeing cupping done with deer and animal antlers
and horns, you know, because again, all you needed that
hollow shape and you put some heat in there and

(29:33):
create that vacum ceiling and quickly place it on the skin.
So it's able to suck up and move that block
energy in that area. So again I know that those
roots are right there. It's very very limited information that
actually says it. But those pictures in that document in

(29:53):
and of itself did it for me, as well as
looking at a lot of the black images, I'm sorry,
the Asian images that were black emperors, et cetera. I
go to Chinatown and I would say, isn't that guy black?
And they would say, oh no. And of course my
research would let me know that this particular emperor a
general was of dark hue. And we know that some

(30:16):
of the darkest feoqule in the world would come out
of Africa that migrated to China, and there's some black
Chinese up there. All we have to do is go
back in time and we'll see that.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
And twenty seven away from the top down. I gotta
ask you about the cupping though. Is it similar to
the acupuncture they're placed in certain areas, and also too
with some of these massage companies. They have these on
calling pebbles, but rocks of stones if you will, they're
called hotstone. This is the same technique that you have
to place them in certain areas.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
Yeah. Well, with those hot stones. You can do that.
You can take a hot stone and place it on
an acupuncture point. That's not one of the things that
we will ever trained then, but yeah, you can do that,
you know, to manipulate the energy there, warm some things up,
create some circulation and some warming and some energy flow,

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et cetera. The cups you create a vacuum and if
there's tension and tightness and a muscle, which is why
a lot of the swimmers and athletes use it, because
their muscles get very very tight, you know, after they've
worked out, after they've played their sports or whatever the
case may be, and they need to be released and

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the blood needs to flow, et cetera. So this cupping
concept creates a vacuum and it sucks the area where
you place it. You can place it on an acupunctual point,
for sure, but it's even more general than that that
you can just place it at different places around the
body where you want to create a circulation or a

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blood flow, or release a tension or a stressed muscle,
et cetera.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
It's the same process that you know. It depends on
the issue whether how many times you have to have these.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
Treatments absolutely a gain. You know, in this country, they
stretch it out. But of course people who have money,
like sports people and entertainers, they're able to get it
a little bit more consistently. I have a friend who
has a clinic out in Hollywood and he's treating you know,
all of the stars and stuff who come in consistently

(32:31):
to get treatment there because they have the money to
be able to pay for it. But in our community,
it's kind of tough for people to be consistent with
acupuncture because the prices are just ridiculous that they charge.
And I'm not a part of that capitalist system.

Speaker 6 (32:46):
You know.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
We always have what we call a slide and scale,
and of course we do a lot of free treatment
in the community.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Twenty five away from the top of doctor ka Kai Patterson,
I guess he's an acupuncturist is also activists in Washington, DC.
So we're going to talk about some of the activists,
some of the issues that are rolling that you were
working with as well. But the needles, uh, doctor Patterson,
do you reuse the needles? Do you warm them up,
do you sterilize them? Or are they one shot in
there out? How does that work?

Speaker 5 (33:17):
Great, great question. Great question. When we started doing acupuncture,
we had to use what we called an autoclay, which
of course we know they use in the hospital to
sterilize the surgical equipment and the medical equipment. So each
one of the acupuncture officers that I ran in d
C we had an AutoPlay, So we would take the

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needles and put them in an autoclad, sterilize them, and
then package them in individual packages with the client's name
on it so when they came back we could use
that needle. When we started studying acupuncture, we had a
little slate rock where we actually would sharpen the acupuncture
needles for reuse, and we were taught how to do that.

(34:01):
Just like to see them whipping the raise on a
level strap or sharpening a knife on a piece of slate,
we did the same thing with these blue, thin care
like needles to sharping them. But it's tright and.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Hold that thought right there, Dr Patterson. We got to
take our first look at the news trafficking weather in
our different cities. I'll let you finish up telling us
about the needles when we get back. Family. Just joining us,
Doctor Patterson is an acupuncturist by trade, but he's also
an activist in Washington, DC. We're gonna here there are
some of the other issues he's dealing with as well.
You want to join the discussion, they'll reach out to
us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy
six and we ticket calls after the news, traffic and

(34:35):
weather update. It's next and Grant Rising family, thanks for
waking up with us on this Wednesday morning. Another wellness
Wednesday for you with our guest that DC activists and acupuncturists,
doctor Kakai Patterson. Before we go back to doctor Patterson,
by the way, Kevin has a question for you, and
also I got a tweet question for you, Doctor Patterson. Sorry,
remind the family that comes up later this morning, Master
herbalist and metaphysician, Doctor B will turn to our classroom.

(34:57):
Doctor B will explain how we should prepare for next
Monday's fall equinox and also the dots between telemares, toxins,
and parasise. But before doctor B, matth grew a kill.
Parker will check in and tomorrow we're going to be
joined by the University of Houston's doctor Gerald Horn and also,
Memphis City Councilman Pearl Walker will be here. So if
you are in Baltimore, make sure you keep your radio
lot in tight on ten ten WLB, or if you're

(35:19):
in the DMV family, are on FM ninety five point
nine and AM fourteen fifty WL. All right, doctor Passion,
tell us about the I guess you could call it
the hygiene issue with coming with the needles.

Speaker 5 (35:32):
Yeah, we call it the clean needle technique that we
trained folk on. But as I stated, we were able
to autoclaim those needles and individually repackage them and put
the client's name on them and then reuse them. We
learned how to sharpen those needles, et cetera. But with
the onslaught of the virus is taken over like the
HIV AIDS virus you know, et cetera. They passed the

(35:56):
law that we can only use disposable needles, so we
the incur that expense. So we get our needles prepackaged
and sterilized packages where we have to actually open them
up and take them out with individual use and then
we dispose them. So that's how we operate now today.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Gotcha, As I mentioned, sixty away from the top of
the Kevin has a question for your grand rising Kevin,
I'm with doctor Patterson.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Good morning, doctor Pattison, Amen, good morning.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
I wanted to.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Ask you, does mental fatigue have a cure in your
acupuncture specialty?

Speaker 6 (36:37):
Huh?

Speaker 5 (36:38):
Yeah, what ya? Thank you for that question. Yeah, we
got to get some sleep number one. But yeah, you know,
actually puncture works very very well on mental imbalances. I'll
give you my information towards the end of this.

Speaker 8 (36:57):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
But we have a few documents, one of how acupuncture
works on a d D ADHD, how acupuncture works on
a depression, which could be similar to the mental fatigue,
because you wear your brain down, wearing and overthinking and
frustration and anger, and that causes that mental fatigue. As

(37:19):
well as those of us who are intellectual and read
a lot and work a lot, study a lot. You know,
I have students who during their mid terms, they come
to me because their brains are filled up. You know
how you say, I can't study anymore, let me just
take a break, and they have to stop because the
container is full. Where we can treat that particular process,

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we have a point right in the middle of the forehead,
the third eye one on the top of the head
that actually airs the hair, that actually airs the head out,
that actually relaxes the thought process and actually helps the
brain to be able to foul the data that's there
and open up space so the person can continue uh

(38:03):
you know, their study uh and absorption of information. So, yeah,
we have acupuncture points and processes that work very well
on mental fatigue as well as supporting that with some
supplemental on herbal supplements.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Yeah, so you kind of deal with the chakras if
you will.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
Well the chakras again, you know, acupuncture is the basis
of all of that stuff. Uh, the basis for chakra healing,
the basis for reflexology, uh, you know, massage, therapy, et cetera.
Whenever you're manipulating chokras, you're manipulating their internal systems which
are what fed by and controlled by manipulated by T

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and that energy runs through the bodies. Whereas the chakra,
you're dealing with specific seven centers in the body that
branch out throughout the body. Well, how do they branch out?
They have to be within an energetic system, and all
of those processes, all of these therapies wind up in
that process of dealing with the manipulation of cheat throughout

(39:10):
the meridian system in the body.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Well, thank you, doctor Patterson.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
I appreciate it. Jui, thank you for that question.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
All right, Thanks Kevin. Thirteen away from the top of
Cindy's next she's called from DC. She's online too, Sindy
Grand Rise and with doctor Patterson Graham.

Speaker 9 (39:26):
Rising, Carleton Union.

Speaker 10 (39:27):
Guess I've had I puncture over the years, and I've
gone out to Rockville, but they accepted my insurance, so
I was wondering if the doctor accepts insurance.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
Well, I appreciate that. At seventy three, I'm pretty much
into training my students. I travel, you know, locally and
around the country training people in this acupunctural process. However,
you know, once I leave my information, you can get
in touch with me. I have two colleagues that work

(40:02):
with me. One of them is my student who graduated
from matchewpuncture five years ago and it's working his heart
out out there in Baltimore. But yeah, I can definitely
refer you to two of the best acupunctures in the Washington,
DC area.

Speaker 10 (40:20):
Oh, thank you very much, because Rockdale is a problem
for me.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
Thank you, Yes, absolutely, thank you for the question.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
All right, thanks Indy. A tweet question for you. Treater says,
a new COVID virus is back. There's not a new
COVID shot available until the hospitals are treating the symptoms.
What type of treatment do you recommend? Can you take
the acupunccher, can that ward off or COVID nineteen or
how do you treat it after COVID nineteen? Can that help?

(40:49):
I guess that's the genesis of this question here.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
Yeah, that's a whole bag right then, in terms of
just my view of the COVID vaccines and how effective
aren't But you can go to CDC and look up
Vier's Vaccine Adverse Reaction Information and you get some information
on the vaccines and how they don't work. But yeah,
anytime you're dealing with a virus, and virus has to

(41:14):
feed on something, and doctor Saby talks about that mucus here,
and that virus has to feed on some live negative
stuff in the body. So if we keep the immune
system up, we can a lot of times avoid these conditions.
My children have never been vaccine since nineteen seventy five,
before these COVID viruses and stuff came about because I

(41:37):
never agreed with the vaccines because in my personal research
I found them to be very, very detrimental. And then
we have this onslaught of add adhd autism and all
of these things that people are saying are relative to
individuals takes and vaccines. But again I'm going to leave

(41:58):
my information. The whole idea as a relation to prevention
is to keep that immune system strong. So we do
have some things that actually will kill the virus as
well as preventative things. Lastly, I want to mention the

(42:19):
Immune Project, which is run by doctor Aleen Muhammad, one
of my colleagues. We go back to us operating the
African Orgistical Association clinic in ninety two and working in
the HIV AIDS community, Doctor Ali Mohammad and myself and
through his guidance, have been using a product called pact Immune,

(42:44):
which is a form of our interfuron that they be
killed to use back in the nineties to cure HIV
and AIDS. And then we have a Cuban doctor Jose Harrera,
who jumped on it when the COVID virus hit and said, hey,
let's look with this this alpha interferon and see if
we can tweak it a little bit to deal with

(43:05):
the covid virus. And they did that. So this is
what I've been working with with individuals over the last
few years and dealing with covid UH. And you had
fifty Cuban doctors who went to fifty countries to deal
with the COVID virus using this particular product backing the
height of the covid and was able to rid those

(43:28):
countries of the covid virus. So there are some natural
things and a state that pack commune is the one.
And once I give my information, you can get in
contact with me and we can make sure that you
get some of that.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
All right, good deal ight away from the top. They
had with doctor Patterson. Kareem's reaching out to us. He's
in Baltimore's online three Grand Rising Brother, Kareem, you on
with doctor Patterson.

Speaker 5 (43:50):
Hey peace, doctor Pattison piece for the call. I just
wanted to know if you could talk about how our
bodies and the QI is in terms of rivers, streams
and wells in our body and where they well up
in the body.

Speaker 11 (44:10):
Can you talk about that in terms of how key works.

Speaker 6 (44:14):
In the body.

Speaker 5 (44:14):
Please, I appreciate you what you do. Want to have
a good one, pease, Yeah, thank you so much, Thank
you so much. A lot of people would have to
be acupunctual students to understand the concept of the gene
wel points and you know, so forth and so on.
But just in general, we have the energy and chi
that runs up and down these avenues for these meridians

(44:36):
and these intersections are points, and these points have different
functions within the body, and there's certain points that can
remove blockages. There's certain points that can stimulate chi and
flow in the body. There's certain points that can heat
the body up, There's certain points that can warm and
cool the body down. So these are points that are

(45:01):
accumulative in different parts of the body, and when you
go to those points, you're actually able to release more energy,
more chin flow within the body. But again, as he
mentioned things like the wells and the rivers and the streams,
these are terminologies that we use an acupuncture to describe

(45:22):
the flow of kei as it's rolling through the meridians.
These are terms that we use to describe which he
builds up at specific points, and we can treat that
and disperse that energy. You know, and sometimes it's good
and sometimes it's bad. But yeah, that's a deep discussion
as it relates to the philosophical concepts behind the acupuncture points.

(45:47):
But thank you for that question.

Speaker 12 (45:49):
All right, five away from the top of that, doctor
Kokai Patterson. Doctor Patterson, In addition to acupuncture, you're also
an activist in the DMV. You're working with brother al
Malik farc Can you give us an update on what's
going on and what issues you guys are working on.

Speaker 5 (46:04):
Absolutely, thank you so much, you know and we give
you know thanks to brother our Malik fire Khan who
founded Cease Fire Don't Smoke the Brothers and Sisters, which
is a peace movement where we go against violence in
the community, work with all of what they call the
crews and the gangs in the street. I am a

(46:26):
board member of Cease Fire Don't Smoke the Brothers and Sisters.
We'll be celebrating our thirtieth anniversary. Just the last weekend
of August, we had our eighteenth cease Fire six month
Moratorium celebration where we see two to three thousand people free.
We did free acupunction. We must have treated about seventy

(46:49):
eighty people on that day. But our Maliite firecon has
the largest gathering of ex offenders, you know, brothers and
sisters who are gang members, you know, et cetera, who
come together, no violence, no fighting, you know, et cetera.
But on, let me see the date, and October to

(47:11):
twenty six, we'll be celebrating our thirtieth anniversary in Gala
at a space called the Hotel seven seven seven Baltimore
Avenue and College Park. And people are able to get
some information on that by simply calling two oh two

(47:33):
six six nine eight eight six two or two four
oh five zero four zero nine nine nine. And the
conditions in our streets today are you know, just as
bad as they were, you know, years ago in terms
of the gun violence. Even though we've had what do

(47:54):
you call the police, the CIA, FBI, we had everybody
here in Washington, DC monitor in the street. So of
course people stayed in their homes. But the killings didn't stop.
The cline did not stop. Why is that the conditions
are still the same. We still don't have jobs, we
still have bad schools, We still have the conditions within

(48:17):
our community where there's smoke bothers. Yesterday we were at
one of the housing probs.

Speaker 12 (48:22):
Well hold that story right there, doctor Passion. We got
to check the traffic weather in not different cities. I
want to hear that story when we come back, though.
Family two can join our conversation with doctor Kokai Patterson.
Reach out to us. A telephone number is simple. It's
eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six.
And were ticket calls after the traffic and weather.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
That's next the Carl Nelson Show, Win the Most.

Speaker 12 (49:09):
And Grand Rising Family. Thanks for starting your Wednesday with us.
It's a hump, Dad. That means were halfway through the
work week for most of us. Two minutes off the top,
there were doctor Cory Patterson, Momchella, we're gonna speak with
math Guru, a brother a kill Parker. But doctor Patterson,
we were talking about al Malik fire gun, and you
folks are trying to keep the peace in the streets.
You're about to tell us the story, so I'll let
you go ahead and do that.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
Absolutely, Thank you so much. I you know, I met
al Mahleik in nineteen ninety two when I opened up
the Black Acupuncture Clinic, the first black acupuncture clinic in Washington,
d C. And he came down in a wheelchair with
another young guy seventeen years old who had been shot
several times with a three fifty seven magnum and was
told that he would never be able to walk. And

(49:53):
he asked me and my chief accupunctures doctor, you and
knee at the time, could we do something with him?
I said, bring him in because the game, that's what
we do. We work in the hood, and we didn't
promise anything. We told him that we had some success
sometimes and then other times not at all. Long story short,
we were able to get this brother back on his feet.

(50:14):
I saw him five years ago, six with four healthy
you know, doing this thing. And I saw him a
few years after we did the treatment. He was jogging,
et cetera. But about three or four or five months
after the treatment, we had him back on his feet.
And I continued to work with Ceasefire and became a

(50:34):
board member of this organization because of the grassroots work
that they're doing. Not to slight anyone else, but al
Malik Rorcon is one of the only individuals who really
goes deep into the community. And all of the groups
that we see working in Washington, d C. Now they
give all honor to al Malik fryarkon the violence interruptors,

(50:59):
piece of Holics, you name am Alliance and concerned Men
with Tyler and Parker, etc. They know that our Malik
priorcon is the one who started this process. Well, we
are celebrating thirty years of that work on October the
twenty sixth at the Hotel and that's at seven seven
seven Baltimore Avenue in College Park, Maryland. So we're asking

(51:22):
people to come out and to support our work. We're
still going into the hood, going onto the corners, going
into the penitentiaries. I was just in one of the
youth jails this past Friday and Sunday. We go up
there twice a week and we talked to these young
people and we talked to the Christians. We talked to

(51:44):
the Muslims. We don't care what the denomination is, but
we talked to them. And what we found out that
in general, all of them have someone missing in the family,
a mother, a father or both. All of them have
gone through all of abuse, uh situations in the home

(52:04):
with their boyfriends, with their girlfriends, et cetera. So we
have all of this factors side all of this in house.
You know violence that's going on in our community that
it's you know, it's absolutely multiplied.

Speaker 6 (52:19):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
And we really have to, you know, get the black
men uh to come out of their homes, come out
of their comfortable chairs.

Speaker 6 (52:27):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
And I have a button that I wear that I
got from a brother in Philly, that whole saying that
we started back in the seventies, each one teach one. Well,
my button says each one teach three. And when I
saw it, I said, brother, let me get one of those,
each one teach one. He said, Brother, you need to
read it again.

Speaker 6 (52:44):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (52:44):
And it says each one teach three. So what we're
doing now is we're looking for volunteers. We're looking for
people to join into this movement with ceasefire, don't smoke
the brothers. And so as we turned through this particular

(53:04):
season going into the fall into the winter, that we
have some kind of effect and established some kind of protocol.
Going into twenty twenty six, we have presented what we
call the street Code, which was originally done by some
brothers that were gang members or gangs, the disciples, et

(53:26):
cetera that Matulu should call asked them to write a
code for thug life. In the park at thug life
written all on his stomach.

Speaker 6 (53:35):
And a man, what is that?

Speaker 5 (53:36):
He said, Oh man, you know we just then now
we got to make it clear. So they came out
with the concept of thug life in Matulu before he passed,
asked me to rewrite it and we came up with
what we call the street code that we put out
into the community. So at the gala, we'll be passing
that out. We'll be talking about that. We passed out

(53:58):
about two three thousand of the street codes at the
program that we just did a couple of weeks ago.
But again that's on the twenty sixth of October. And
one other project that we're working with call again continuing
to push the need for acupuncture to deal with drugs.

(54:21):
My crew in Atlanta, the BLAO in Falani Suni Ali
ADS Collective Atlanta chapter is sponsoring video viewing of Dope
Is Death and if you all have not seen Dope's Death,
this document This documentary chronicles doctor mantoul Core and his

(54:42):
work as well as the work that I'm doing in
continuing that process with the ADS Collective and in Atlanta, Georgia.
For all of those who are listening, down in Atlanta
on September twenty one, Dope's death will be shown and
for further information you can call seven seven zero eight

(55:04):
five seven six eight six. And lastly, e Mom jamail
out of me and I'm a part of the imm
jamail out of the Action network and we'll continue to
work hard to get his release. He's been getting some
medical care as we forced that issue. And on October

(55:26):
the fourth, they'll be having a fish fry and cooked out,
So we need people to come out and support that project.
They can go to the e Mom Jamil Action Network
dot org a game that's the e Mom Jamil Action
Network dot org and get that information on that program

(55:50):
down there in Savannah, Georgia. And last but not least,
here in Washington, d C. We have an organization called
chi Incorporated that I'm an advisory board. They call themselves
the Baby a Y the African Oldest Self Association that
I started, and she is the Collective Health Initiative, which

(56:10):
is made up of acupunctures, herbalists, massage workers, energy healers,
et cetera. They're having a program here in Washington, d C.
To promote holistic health concepts and they'll be doing lectures
and presentations around holistic healing techniques to address hot blood pressure, diabetes, cancer,

(56:33):
covid ezema, asthma, all of the things that we're dealing with.
Some of the procedures will be donated to doctor Patterson
and his work on his continued healing journey, but also
the work that we're doing in the community within the
youth institutions and the youth jails, et cetera, along with

(56:56):
parent Watch, which is another organization you can look them
up Watch Incorporated, who is a very very progressive advocacy
organization working with young people who are incarcerated who need
support because a lot of times people are mistreated. A
lot of times these young people when we go in,
they talk about how they've been treated, how they talked to,

(57:19):
you know, and how they're not able to get what
they need. At one point, one of the local youth
institutions didn't have any soap and the young people were
using what you call hand sanitizer to take baths and showers.
So everybody in our community needs to be aware that
these young people that are locked up are not violent criminals.

(57:39):
These are young people who have been mislaid and misguided
and will become violent criminals if we just allowed the
system to take them and do what they want to do.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
We know in d C.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Yeah, and doctor Barrison, we got to step aside because
we've got Brother Akil on deck. But before we do that, though,
leave your information because you have to. They have us
some great topics to talk about, especially folks who have
some health challenges. How can people reach you in the DMV.

Speaker 5 (58:08):
Absolutely, people can call me direct it to zero two
for one two for eight eight zero. That's two o
two for one two for eight eight zero. Or they
can go to my website at Communal Effect Herbals all
one word Communal Effect herbals dot com and they can

(58:33):
go to my website and you know, set up consultation there.
They can take a look at the products and things
that we're using to deal up with those issues.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Yeah, alrighty, thank you, thank you for all the information
you shared with us this morning. Thank you doctor Patterson,
and thank you.

Speaker 5 (58:50):
So much call for all the work that you all do.
And thanks to wol family. Y'all have a blessed healthy Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Alrighty have the topic. Brother at kil Parker's joined us
from Philly. Brother kill Thank you for being so patient
with us this morning. Welcome back to the program. Grand
Rising sir, Good morning brother.

Speaker 7 (59:08):
How you doing.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
I'm still learning. I just got to learn a lot
of stuff there from doctor Patterson about acupuncture. But I
want to get some I'm one of the math phobia people.
As I've told you before. You know, I have this
phobia about math and it started I think in elementary
school when we're doing fractions. I want I moved from
one school to the other and in school we just

(59:29):
started teaching fractions and the other school had already passed
up a fraction, so for me, I was lost. But
we never get we never went back to the fundamentals.
But that's my story. But I want we want to
hear your story because you say that students and parents
must learn and memorize multiplication facts. You say this is
foundational to all higher math. Can you explain that for us?

Speaker 4 (59:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (59:52):
Well, first I want to say, you know, I want to,
you know, commend you for admitting admitting that you had
a problem, because that's the first step. First step too,
you know, correct the problem is to admit that you know,
we have a phobio, we have a you know, discomfort
or whatever, because you know, we can't fix the problem
if we don't admit that we first have the problem,
you know. But but yeah, I'm a very staunch advocate

(01:00:14):
for not only children, but parents, grandparents, uncles, aunts, and
making sure they have the multiplication facts learned and memorized
because it's just it's just so foundational, and I think
generally a lot of us we have this idea because
of how we've been conditioned that if we don't develop
math skills and don't become proficient in mathematics will be okay,

(01:00:36):
as if math is something extra curricular, as if it's
like knowing how to play stages where well, knowing how
to drive a fixture, it's like, oh, my life will
be fine if I don't know math. No, our lives
are not going to be fine, right, We're going to
be taking advantage of right, We're gonna be misled, right
because with the mathematics we're able to develop critical thinking
ability and analytical reason and ability and then problem solving ability,

(01:00:59):
not just in a man have classroom, but in everyday life,
walking down the street, driving down the street, taking churps,
travel and having conversations and interaction with you know, coworkers,
supervisors at jobs, all these different types of things. But yes,
the multiplication facts are foundational. Yesterday, I do some consulting
work in Baltimore. I was at you know, a school

(01:01:20):
that I do work with, and I'm in the sixth
grade classroom, and a lot of the students in there,
for various reasons, I'm sure, don't have their multiplication facts Memoras.
And I was on the interview a couple of years
ago saying that, you know, for parents, and if their
parents listening to this, I want you to understand this too.
If you have a child that is in third grade

(01:01:42):
and they do not have the multiplication facts memboras, at
least up to twelve times twelve. They don't got to
stop at twelve times twelve, but twelve times twelve being
one hundred and forty four is the maximum product that
we have in the old school composition notebook in the
back of the back of the notebook. Right, if your
child's in third grade and they don't have those memorized,
you should be worried and concerned, and let that worry

(01:02:04):
and concern motivate you to help them to learn. It
should be a sense of urgency, just like as if
you was about to get evicted from your house and
you got to figure out how to get the rent
money so that you don't get evicted and have a
place to live and have a roof over your head.
It really is that serious and part of the reason
that this problem has not being addressed because we don't
take it that seriously. But we got to take it

(01:02:25):
that seriously. We got to figure out ways to be
consistent and practice multiplication facts. We got to you know,
be able to sit down with our children and have
them know what nine times nine is, what eight times
seven is, what three times four is. So if anybody
listening that thinks it's just you know, it's just you know,
they'll be fine.

Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
And be out.

Speaker 7 (01:02:44):
Or the people that say, oh, they got to calculate it,
what they need to know that for well, if you
use a calculator all the time, you'll never develop the
critical thinking ability to be able to solve problems. You'll
always feel like the calculator is the crutch, or SIRI
is the crutch, or election is the crush much or
chat GPT is the crutch, and you'll never learn how
to develop that skill. Your brain is a muscle. What

(01:03:06):
happens we break an arm, or break a leg, and
your arm or your legs and a cast for months.
When the cast comes off, your muscles, atrophy is flabbying
weak because you haven't been using it. Brains are the
same way.

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
We should.

Speaker 7 (01:03:18):
We can research neuroplasticity to see that.

Speaker 13 (01:03:20):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:03:21):
So, but what I'm saying is is multiplication facts. I
want to screen from the rooftops. We have to know
multiplication facts. In this classroom, the students are being charged
with that was it yesterday? How to figure out ratios
and proportions. You can't get into it. You can't even
do the ratios and proportions if you don't know your
multiplication facts. First, you can't reduce fractions. You can't simplify fractions.

(01:03:43):
If you don't know your multiplication factors, you don't know
the factors of numbers. All of these things have to
be known. So I want to be very explicit that
any and everybody listening, your children, and let me also
add this. In the past, I've often said that your children, grandchildren,
nieces and nephews need to know that amplication effects.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
But if you're an adult man, right now, hold I
thought right there, brother, Okay, we gotta step aside for
a few moments. How let you explain that when we
come back, and also tell us that when we talk
about all that math, it's not about numbers. It's much
more than numbers. That's why I like how you make
those relations and connect those dots for us. So I'll
let you do that as well when we get back. Family,
got a question about math, or if you got a

(01:04:21):
math that we will, like myself as a youngster, reach
out to us at eight hundred four five zero seventy
eight seventy six and we'll take a phone calls next.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Now back to the Carl Nelson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Bank Grand Rising family twenty minutes after the top of
their I guess the math guru, that's what we call him,
brother Akhil Parker out of Philly, and they give us
an you know, it's presenting its points and then telling
us why we should embrace mathematics. And it started with
young people as students and as parents and grandparents to
share the information with that children so they don't turn

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that like me, it was had math phoby growing up,
but I had I had a brother like a kill
in my life back then I'd have attacked it instead
of running away from it. So brother keill I met you,
finish your thought and then tell us because for you
you explained it that math isn't just about numbers. It's
more than just numbers. And I think that's what our
audience needs to know as well.

Speaker 7 (01:05:34):
Right, definitely, So you know, and as I was saying,
so for the break, I'm saying, is that like, in
addition to the children, the grandchildren, niece's nephews, you know,
making sure that they have the multiplication facts learned and
mastered and memorized on site, you know, the adults, we
as adults in the community, we have to make sure
we have the multiplication facts memorized to learn. Oftentimes there's

(01:05:57):
this kind of approach where we said, well, yes, I
want better for my children on a better for my
grandchildren and for the youngest, but we have to do
the same thing. We have to want better for ourselves
as adults. So it's not just okay, well I'm going
to you know, find you a tutor when you know,
get you the help that you need. We need to
help ourselves.

Speaker 5 (01:06:16):
So we have to know.

Speaker 7 (01:06:17):
So the mother and the father, they have to have
the multiplication facts memorized because that sets the example right,
and we got to be able to do that right
and again again. Multiplication facts are very foundational to doing
work with fractions. Like a lot of a lot of
children hate fractions. A lot of children fear fractions. They
don't know what to do when they see a fraction
when they confronted by you know, some type of word

(01:06:38):
problem that they will see on the standardize test. This
is why, this is a large part of why we
get the data that we get every single year without
fail perennially. You know, so much deficiency on standardized TUST
because the children don't understand fractions or they don't understand me,
they don't have the number since right. And a large
part of it is that learning gap in terms of

(01:07:00):
being proficient and fluent and you know, as we say,
automatic with knowing multiplication facts because you know, you talk,
you just talk to a young people, ask them to
be young person, like what's six times eight? Is asking?
You know, on a rare occasion, they might just say
split out forty eight, okay, cool, But then you know
some might start counting with their fingers, which is fine
when you're first learning. That's fine, but at a certain level,

(01:07:22):
like I said, by third grade, you got to be
automatic with the multiplication facts, because then you can reduce fractions,
Then you can simplify fractions. Then you can find common
denominators when it's time to add and subtract fractions. When
you get to algebra, you can solve equations more quickly
and more readily. You can solve systems of equations. A
lot of these issues that children are having in high
school and algebra one classes OUGEB the two classes geometry

(01:07:45):
classes are not because of necessarily those new concepts introduced
in those courses. It's because of the weak foundation from arithmetic.
They have a weak arithmetic foundation. And then when we
talk about algebra one, O one is the gate keeper
to with STEM.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
So you know, this is a way to.

Speaker 7 (01:08:03):
Keep us, you know, especially as black people, locked out
of certain career opportunities, a certain career paths.

Speaker 5 (01:08:09):
You know, it's a way to keep.

Speaker 7 (01:08:10):
Us from becoming engineers. There's a way to keep us,
keep us from becoming doctors, keep us from becoming lawyers,
from becoming you know, computer sciences and architects. You keep
us away from the meg and it starts.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
But let me jump in here and ask you this though,
because you mentioned algebra and geometry, and you know people
are saying, well, I'm not going to use that after
after I finished high school. A problem may just in
in college, and some of you may take some courses,
but for the most part algebra two and geometry. How
can how can you convince somebody that they should study

(01:08:43):
these these various courses because they're going to need them
throughout their lifetime. What do you say to them when
they say, hey, I'm I'm nobody's going to ask me
to work out an algebra problem or a geometry question.
I'm probably never get that unless I'm in the engineering field.
What do you say to those folks?

Speaker 7 (01:08:58):
Well, well, I say to those well, there are a
lot of things I could say to those folks, but
one of the things I would say to them is
and for one, being proficient in mathematics helps you to
ask better questions. And sometimes where's the people? We ask
the wrong question because oftentimes people will say, well when
am I going to use this? Well, a better question
to ask is when are the people that learn it

(01:09:19):
going to use it? And what are they using it for?
Because if somebody is learning calculus, and you might say, well,
I'm never going to need calculus. I don't want to
be an engineer. I don't want to do this, I
don't want to do that, so I'm never going to
need that. Well, the others take a moment and step
back and say, well, somebody is learning calculus. They are
printing calculus textbooks every year, they are making online calculus
programs every year. But students to learn calculist people are

(01:09:41):
taking a Calculus a P exam every single year. People
are then going to college and studying a high level map,
Calculus one, Capulus two, Calculus three, differential equations, and so
on and so forth. People are getting bachelor's degrees, master's degrees, PhDs,
and mathematics. Do we ever stop to think and which
we should do? What are those people doing with the mass?
What are they're using the math for? Because we're all

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living in a society, and if we have any understanding
of how monopoly capitalism functions, how neo colonialism functions, this
is a competitive society. So if we say, oh, well,
I'm not going to use this, but then there are
people out there that are learning it, that are using it.
Don't we ever sit back and just we should be
sitting back there like, well, damn, Like what are they
using it for? Maybe I need to look into this.

(01:10:24):
And what they're using it for is these people are
going into private industry.

Speaker 5 (01:10:28):
These people are going.

Speaker 7 (01:10:29):
Into you know, government and entities working for them. These
people are going into think tanks that are creating political
policy that governs all of our lives and using the
mathematics to create algorithms, to create formulists and create create
predictive systems, right to work for corporations so they can
market things to us and get inside our minds and

(01:10:51):
you know, kind of manipulate you know, our likes and
dislikes so that we can you know, spend all money
on certain products and certain services. Right, this is what
the math is being used for. So when we especially
if we as parents with doing our children at this service,
when we say well, my child's gonna need to learn
all that, he'd be all right or she'd be all right. Yeah,
But there are people that are learning it. So if

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this is a competitive society, this is really like a
warfare type scenario in situation. So what we're doing is
when you have when you have math proficiency, that's a tool,
that's a weapon. That's a weapon, right, So imagine what
it would be like if you got to go to
war with somebody and they got AK forty sevens and
all these assault rifles and everything, grenades and whatever, rocket launches,

(01:11:34):
and you come in there throwing your hands up like
you ready to fist fight. You're going to die. And
this is what we this is what happens with us
when we say things like well, I'm never going to
use that, you need to start thinking about what other
people are using it for, because it ain't just about you.
And oftentimes we're programmed to think that we're not going
to need it. We could, we will need it, and

(01:11:55):
it's not.

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
And it's not even just.

Speaker 7 (01:11:56):
About the labor side of it, you know, secure a
certain job or what have you. Like, you know somebody, well,
I don't want to be a math teacher, So why
do I need to know?

Speaker 6 (01:12:04):
That?

Speaker 5 (01:12:05):
Math?

Speaker 7 (01:12:06):
Is deeper than just these formulas and these equations on
the surface level. This is about developing problems, solving ability,
and as a productive, responsible as human being, you need
to know how to solve problems. You need to and
even before that, you need to know how to identify problems.
A lot of us don't even know how to identify problems.
That's why we think stuff is sweet. Sometimes something like
very problematic and harmful can be going on right in

(01:12:28):
front of us, and if you don't have the analytical
ability to see that, you think that it's cool. You
might even celebrate it. You might even start dancing or
whatever and show them like it's like everything is all good.
But the people that have the critical ability, critical thinking ability,
and the analytical ability are setting back like, yo, this
ain't cool. We need to do something about this.

Speaker 5 (01:12:47):
This is this is the way you.

Speaker 7 (01:12:48):
Develop that ability to recognize the problems and then solve
the problems. Is do practicing mathematics, all the math that
they told us we wasn't gonna need. It's a con game,
it's a hustle. I want people to understand that this
whole idea that we're never gonna need math, We're not
gonna use math, it's not going to be relevant in
my life. It's a con and a hustle because you
got to think about they didn't tell that to everybody,

(01:13:10):
because it is people out here getting PhDs in math,
getting master's degrees in math, getting masters degrees in math
that are using mathematics every day. They are using it.
So you got to ask yourself, why did I Why
did I get that message? But them people over there
didn't get that message? What's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
So yeah, let me jump in here at twenty and
after the top day. Tweeter just sent me this. He says,
the conferences electricians, plumbers skill trades, all high wage union
jobs require higher math. And this prevents many of us
from being successful because we shy away from those those
trades because we don't know mathematics. And I'm glad you
mentioned it's not just about numbers, it's giving you analytical

(01:13:47):
skills as well. So I'll let you comment on that tweet.
We are from Buffalo, Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 7 (01:13:52):
And that's just that's just one area of opportunity, of
job opportunities. Whether then the math is going to be
used like the mathematics is very important. It is foundational.
And also I want us to think about who benefits
the Latin phrase qui bono for the good of who,
or who benefits from this widespread, you know, socially acceptable

(01:14:13):
mass deficiency. Who benefits from that? Because in every problem
you have winners and losers. So what's what's happening?

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
Like what so?

Speaker 7 (01:14:21):
So it's you know a lot of us, we disqualify
ourselves from competition. Like I said earlier, once you once
you say as a young person, like you know, I'm
never going to use math, I hate math. I'm you
know this is this is boring, or I don't I
don't need this, this is too difficult. You're never going
to be a doctor at that point. You're never going
to aspire to that. You're never going to aspire to
be a registered nurse. You're never going to aspire to
be an architect. You're never going to be aspired to

(01:14:42):
be any of the different types of engineers or computer sciencests.
You're never going to be none of those things. It's
a con game. And then what happens The people that
didn't receive that messaging about mathematics, now they have less
competition because you have disqualified yourself from competing. It's almost
like if somebody says, you know what, I don't like running,
I hate running. I'm never gonna run. I don't need

(01:15:04):
to run. Okay, that person will never be a football
player because in football you have to run. That person
will never be a basketball player because in basketball you
have to run baseball. Any sport, you're disqualifying yourself from
the activity because you're disqualifying yourself. You're disqualifying yourself and
deciding you're not gonna participate in a fundamental and integral part.

Speaker 5 (01:15:25):
Of that activity.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
So I thought, right there, thirty minutes after the top,
there are since the ida was joining us, since the
IDOA is in the Gambia, Africa. This morning, Grand rising sister,
you're on with brother Akia.

Speaker 9 (01:15:38):
Grand rising brothers. You know this is a passion of mine,
and I'm so glad to hear the brothers speaking on mathematics.
But my thing is this right now, I got a
little time on my hands, so I be playing around
with math and I'm seeing that possibly, and I want
to hope that you can answer my question. Possibly we

(01:16:00):
have been given mathematics in a way that creates this
thing where we don't understand the thing, because I from
what I'm seeing, we could actually teach adding, subtracting, emultiplication

(01:16:21):
along with fractions, decimals, and percentages, and that way the
child will get the relationship a better understanding of what
the relationship is to hold numbers. Do you think that
that is a possible way, because I know for myself

(01:16:41):
it was a challenge for me to go through math
because everything was segmented. You know what I mean When
I say segmented, you got geometry, trigonometry and then you know,
So is it that we've been presented this mathematics in
a way that doesn't allow us to grasp the relationships

(01:17:07):
in math?

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
And before you answer, sister, well, let me ask you
a question, a math question. What time is it there
in the Gambia?

Speaker 11 (01:17:16):
It is eleven thirty two.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Okay, seven thirty two on the east coast here, So
brother kill you want to answer a question?

Speaker 7 (01:17:25):
Well, I'm glad she called in, And yes, I would agree.
I would agree. It's all about the delivery. Oftentimes it's
like you know, when you know, sometimes people don't get
you know, aren't recepted to certain messages because the delivery
is off.

Speaker 5 (01:17:37):
You know, the delivery does not catered to.

Speaker 7 (01:17:40):
Their learning style, you know, or you know, their you know,
sensibilities or whatnot. Yes, Oftentimes, like math topics and math
concepts are presented in a way that where they're very disparate,
very disjointed, and they're presented in a way where it
almost seems like one thing don't got nothing to do
with the others. It's like the it's like one of
the ten's of Western education. Everything is compartmentalized, right.

Speaker 5 (01:18:04):
It's like.

Speaker 7 (01:18:06):
History don't got nothing to do with maths, or maths
don't have nothing to do with science, or foreign languages
don't got nothing to do with history. But everything is interconnecting.
Ran So, so yes, I agree with you. I think
that it does often have to do with how the
topics are presented, and they tend to be presented in
many ways as something that mathematics, as if mathematics is

(01:18:27):
not for black people, that's one thing, you know, as
if it's like the exclusive domain of Europeans. And and
then and also then there's a there's another another, you know,
challenge that that that arises because oftentimes when you are
a black person that does excel in math, then you
have this kind of idea that give us Negro exceptionalism.
I did kind of creeps in and then and then

(01:18:48):
that goes to benefit the status quo because then politically
you start thinking, well, I'm not like the rest of
y'all negros. You know what, I'm saying because I don't mask,
because I'm made saying that that that the white people
do that you know, in your mind you think that
they created it. They didn't create this, rightiate, But but yes,
to your point, the way the concepts, the specific concepts

(01:19:10):
are presented, even the idea of when we teach children
how to count right from one to ten, we're we're
dealing with the natural number system, but we're only dealing
with the positives. I advocate that when we teach young
children how to count, in the first place, we should
present we should introduce them to the negative numbers and
at the same time, because all it is is a

(01:19:33):
reflection of the positive side as the number line. So
we're teaching children how to count from one to ten,
we should also be teaching them how to account from
negative one to negative ten. So that way they don't
have to wait until hours of the class, you know,
years later a house of to one class and they're
first being introduced to negative numbers. They need to understand
that's and that's the negative numbers is a concept. Whether

(01:19:53):
you're talking about owing somebody money that's negative, where you're
talking about you know, being real cold out be negative
negative negative temperature outside, you know, on the fahrenheit scale
or the selfish scale, you know what I'm saying. So
there's just a lot of a lot of things that
can be done differently. And I also want to say
this too, I think we as a community. Matter of fact,

(01:20:15):
I know, we as a community, we have to become
more proactive about making these changes for ourselves and in
our own households, and not having such high expectations for
the public school system that has already been unable or
unwilling to educate our children properly and us properly, a
lot of us, right, So we have to become more proactive. Say, okay, well,

(01:20:39):
what can I do in my household? What can I
do when I'm with my children?

Speaker 8 (01:20:43):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:20:44):
I can't.

Speaker 7 (01:20:44):
We can't just just hope that the schools will get better.
We don't got time for that, right, And that's why
I create the resources that I that I create and
maintain so that the community will be able to do
that more efficiently and effectively. But yeah, but I appreciate
your question, you.

Speaker 9 (01:21:04):
Know, I just want to say. One is a math
teaching and she always told us that mathematics was a
universal language.

Speaker 5 (01:21:14):
Do you agree with that?

Speaker 9 (01:21:15):
And I'll hang up and listen.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
All right, Thank yous, and I hold that thought right there.
A response to Brother Akil a universal language. I never
heard it put like that, but I'll let you explain
or answer a sister Idawa's question calling from the gambier.
But we got to step aside and get caught up
on the ladies, news, traffic and weather in our different cities.
Family YouTube can join our discussion with Brother Akil. He's
a math guru. Reach out to us at eight hundred
four or five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll

(01:21:40):
take a phone calls right if the news trafficking weather.
That's next and Grand Rising family, thanks to sting with
us on this Wednesday morning. It's a hum day. That
means we're halfway through the work week, sixteen minutes away
from the top of they are by the way, with
our guest that Kil Parker. Before we go back to
brother Kil, let me just remind you coming up later
this morning, a master herbalist and metaphysician, doctor b will
join us. And later this week you're going to hear

(01:22:02):
from the University of Houston's at doctor joel Holm that'd
be tomorrow, by the way, and also a Memphis City
Council person, Pearl Walker, will be here, so make sure
you keep your radio locked in tight in Baltimore on
ten ten WLB. And if you're in the DMV round
FAM ninety five point nine and AM fourteen fifteen w L.
All right, Brother Keil, Sister Odwell and the Gambia says
that math is a universal language. She correct, I agree

(01:22:27):
with her.

Speaker 7 (01:22:27):
I agree and definitely to the point well, first off,
that mathematics is a language, it's a lane, and I
think if that's one thing many of us can do
to kind of get a better understanding of mathematics first
conceptualized and view it as a language, right, because there
are certain terms that are used in mathematics that may
have a slightly different meaning or a similar meeting in

(01:22:49):
other contexts, in other areas of our existence. Math there's
a lot of symbols and a lot of expressions in it,
you know that we just have to learn like a
lot of you know, people and young children never learned
the vocabulary, right, So there's definitely a vocabulary to mathematics.
But and this language can transcend, you know, different cultures

(01:23:11):
it can transcend different spoken and written language others spoken
and written languages because the concepts remain constant, you know.
So so yes, I definitely agree that, you know, math
is a universal language. And you know this is you know,
one way in which you know, we can communicate you know,
different ideas, and which is which is why it's so
important for us to be mathematically literatey this is you know,

(01:23:34):
we understand that it's important to be literate of the
English language if you're an English language speaker, right, because
then you can defend yourself from being taken advantage of it.
We think about sharecropping during Jim Crow, right, where a
lot of our ancestors were able to be taken advantage
of because we didn't have the mathematical literacy because that
education was denied to us. It didn't have to be awareness, right,

(01:23:55):
So that's why we end up in perpetual debt, a
state of perpetual debt because then own a slave older
keeps saying like, well, now you owe me this money,
and then this was this, and that was that, and
you know, so you know this is and there are
many many stories and accounts of that. But you know,
we have to understand mathematics as a language, you know,
so we can better understand the world, because that's that's

(01:24:17):
what math does. It that helps to you know, frame,
you know the world and you know our lived experience,
human experience, nature, you know, different aspects with the nature
and in a certain way for us to better understand
and be able to you know, you know, and you know,
interact with it all right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Thirty away from the topic, our brother Mancas is checking
in from Memphishes online. One grand rising brother Marcus, you
own with brother Akia grun rising cold.

Speaker 11 (01:24:46):
I'm ground rising to doctor doctor Parker. You know, doctor Parker.
I follow you, my kids follow you on YouTube, you.

Speaker 5 (01:24:54):
Know, because you know you all right, I'm me using
Jenking command.

Speaker 11 (01:24:57):
I'm telling you, you know, as this sister said, and
as you say, if you know math, you could solve
all your problems. You see, it's took yourself all your
problems in the world because math teaches you to think analytically.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:25:14):
I am an engineer by professional myself, so you know,
so look, math, you know is something that we created
on as black folks. Because if you didn't know math,
if them folks did no mass, you couldn't build a pyramid.
And our people knew about pie when they were building

(01:25:35):
that pyramid, because pie is a constant between the circumference
and the radios of a circle.

Speaker 5 (01:25:40):
It's a concert.

Speaker 11 (01:25:42):
So our people knew about math way back. But they
tell you, Oh, the way they present it to you
they complicated because, as they say, they don't want us
to learn that stuff. Because look, I'm a Memphis here.
We have a technical university here right where you can't
go to school and for free four years, right, get

(01:26:06):
an engineering degree and all you really need is basic algebra,
basic algebra, right, body and algebra. You know, it's a
it's a foundation for digital digital you know, digitation because
it's a buyinary system from zero and one. But again,

(01:26:27):
because they present mass so it's oh, I can do it.
You know, my head is hurting. You know what I'm saying.
You know, no, no, we can't do it. We just
got to believe in ourselves and do it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:42):
Whether A kill I.

Speaker 11 (01:26:43):
Respect you, and I say doctor A kill your perhaps
because you are an amazing gent command. You are an inspiration.
And I hope a lot of our people listening to
this and our clue is with this right now, Trump
Haabil right now, and he put out to Work for
Development a thirty million dollar bill to retreating people, to

(01:27:05):
get into that digital field, to get into them, to
fix these computers, these alice AI poc.

Speaker 5 (01:27:14):
You know, it's all math.

Speaker 13 (01:27:17):
It's all math.

Speaker 11 (01:27:18):
You got a thirty million million dollar program right now,
Oh dear, But if you don't know math, you can't
take advantage of it. Go to work Force Development. I say,
I want to sign up for that program. But if
you don't know math, it's probably be like you, you know,
you know, like you don't know Spanish anyway, doctor Paper,
I mean Parker, keep on, keep an answer, Thank you, vermoch.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
All right, thank you, brother Marcus. Brother, can you touch
on what it's something he mentioned? He mentioned that we
created math. You know, Brother Tony Browner ask a question,
been telling us that our great ancestors created mathematics. Can
you and this is what brother Marcus just said, Can
you highlight that first before we take an next call?

Speaker 7 (01:27:59):
Oh, people are there descent. We're the first human beings,
and we you know, developed and maintained the first ribs
and civilizations, and civilization can't thrive without mathematics and without
quantitative reasons, and because you wouldn't be able to build anything.
You know, when we think about now value civilization and
you know, the now rother flooding on a on a

(01:28:19):
you know, annual basis, you have to be able to
plan for that, you know, or else it's a disaster.
But if you can plan for it and you know,
use mathematical formulas and algorithms to you know, be able
to predict you know, when when something is going to
when the now rivers going to flood or you know,
and what the outcome is going to be. You know,
because when you know, people talk about you know why
because I'm expus b I'm never going to use that

(01:28:41):
or never used that.

Speaker 5 (01:28:42):
Well a lot First of all.

Speaker 7 (01:28:43):
A lot of us have used it in our daily lives.
We just didn't realize it because we don't know the
language of mathematics. We we we recognize it another way, right,
But you know a lot of the formulas are meant
for us to be able to you know, predict patterns.
So that's another way to look at math, like as
the science of patterns. So you know, our ancestors were
doing that a long time agoing and you know, nothing changing,

(01:29:04):
but the weather. But again it's to his point. Well,
all I like to add on to this point is
that the reason that like a lot of us are
scared of math is because we've been marketing. It's been
marketed to us that way. As I said earlier, it's
a kan game. It's all a hustle. It's all a hustle.
Like that, there are so many things that the typical
everyday black person does that is so much more more

(01:29:26):
complicated than algebra one and algebra two that we do
with ease because those things we were never told that
those things are hard. We were told that math was hard,
and we believed it, and so many of millions of us,
hundreds of thousands of us, we just believed it. And
because it becomes it and then it becomes a self
fulfilling prophecy. When we as children walked into math classrooms,

(01:29:47):
we expected.

Speaker 5 (01:29:48):
It to be difficult.

Speaker 7 (01:29:49):
So then when we were met with challenge, which is normal,
It's normal for it to be challenging because a lot
of the topics were that's when you learn anything. It
was hard when I when I first my top took me,
took me out when I was six years old to
learn how to ride a bike five or six years old.
That was hard. But I did it because I didn't
think that, oh, well, this is something you're never gonna
be able to do. This is how math is marketed

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to us.

Speaker 5 (01:30:10):
That's that's the.

Speaker 7 (01:30:11):
Main thing in terms of my experience and my teaching
and my research, and you know, that's the main thing
that holds us back as a community because we believe that,
you know, it's too difficult. It's at the moment of conception,
like we think we can't do it. So then as
soon as it's like, oh, okay, we got to grab
this money and equation, or even before before that, you know,

(01:30:33):
oh we gotta we got to add these revision numbers
and you know and regroup.

Speaker 5 (01:30:36):
Oh that seems difficult.

Speaker 7 (01:30:37):
Oh yeah, but they told me it was going to.

Speaker 5 (01:30:38):
Be difficult, So yeah, it's difficult. So that means I'm
not going to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
Like what do you mean?

Speaker 7 (01:30:43):
Like, nah, stop stop believing that. Like we've been marketing
and there's a there's a math as a pr issue.
And again that you know, another part of the kind
game is everybody wasn't told that. Some people were told
that it's too hard, some other people was not told
that it's too hard, so we got always asked the question.
This goes back to the point when we say, when
am I ever going to use this? Well, think about

(01:31:04):
who is using it. We got to stop basketball like about,
well when am I going to use it? You don't
think you're gonna use it because somebody told you you
wasn't gonna use it, and you would just you just
brought into that without really unpacking and analyzing that comment, right,
you just we use a lot of times we regurg
to say things insert generationally. Right, that's the intergeneration because

(01:31:24):
we need to break that one right there, This idea
that like math is irrelevant and we're never gonna use
math and that is too difficult.

Speaker 5 (01:31:31):
Right, So so yeah, these are the things.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
We I think about stix away from the top there
Charles the thirties to call us from the district grand
rise and Charles, your one brother I.

Speaker 14 (01:31:40):
Killed hotel brother kyl and I kia. I just got
the comment one is, I don't know if math is
a universal language because some systems use the metric system.
But I do know math is required in our every days.

(01:32:00):
We can go a day without using it. For example,
you go to the grocery store. You buying fruit, they
tell you sut and buy a pound.

Speaker 5 (01:32:09):
You weigh it.

Speaker 14 (01:32:10):
It might be a fourth or a quarter. That's where
the fractions come in, the importance of fractions. You're going
buying gasoline, they tell you something by the gallon? Do
you want to get five gallons? You calculate that.

Speaker 12 (01:32:23):
But I want to.

Speaker 14 (01:32:24):
Finish it with this. I tutored a kid a little
over a year ago, third grade math, third and fourth grade.
And one of the things is I made it fun
for him, but I also challenged him and I kind
of brought in real world things and he went from
failing eighth great.

Speaker 6 (01:32:47):
But it was fun.

Speaker 14 (01:32:48):
And so the question is I would ask you, brother,
is how can we set up a system where we
make it fun and also we put the importance on
math in our community like we do on sports. You know,
I know people get their kids up early in the morning,
you go practice some type of sports. Why can't we

(01:33:09):
do that in math?

Speaker 5 (01:33:11):
Uh?

Speaker 14 (01:33:11):
And I'll take your response out there and thanks for
the program, brother.

Speaker 6 (01:33:15):
Car.

Speaker 7 (01:33:16):
H Well, I mean it's that there's nothing that stopping
us from doing it. We just ain't nothing to it,
but to do it we we just got to do it.
You know, when we think of sports, one of the
things I try to do is, you know, meet people
where they are. So if we watching football, okay, cool.
You know one of the things we can do is
like when when you got to calculate, you know, how
long the field move was going to be if you're

(01:33:38):
watching a football game, right, that's a that's a math equation,
that's algebra because you got to figure, okay, what spot
is the ball on on the.

Speaker 5 (01:33:46):
Field right what yard line? And then you got to
add ten yards for the end zone and you got
to add.

Speaker 7 (01:33:52):
Seven yards that's the length that the ball is gonna
be hyped. So you're adding ten plus seven plus whatever
whatever yard marker the ball is on. That's an equation
that's mad practice, all right, that your child can do.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
So again, I hold that thought right there, you know
what you just said, because we all to take a break.
But I never thought of it that next time watching
a football game, I'm going to do that calculus that
you just shed with us. But we've got to step aside.
Four minutes away from the top of that, we got
to check the traffic and weather in our different cities.
Got a question for Brother Achille. It's a math grew.
All that math is the name of his program. Reach
out to us at eight hundred and four or five

(01:34:27):
zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll taket calls after
the traffic and weather.

Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
That's next the Carl Nelson Show, win the most submitted.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
And grand rising family facts. You rolling with us on
this Wednesday morning. It's a hump day. That means we're
halfway through the work week with our guest brother at
Kill Parker, Brother Kill, so we call my math Grew.
He's got a program called all This Math. I'm' much ever,
we're going to speak with doctor bibro Let's finish up
with Brother a Kill. Brother Ken't let you finish your thought.
I've got some tweet questions for you as well.

Speaker 8 (01:35:19):
Well.

Speaker 7 (01:35:19):
I want to you know, I think you know theory
is important, but I want to reiterate my point from
when I first called in that you know, we have
to have like concrete, actionable steps and for parents, we
have to learn the multiplication facts we as parents right,
and then we have to also while we're learning them,
if we don't already know them by heart, peace them

(01:35:40):
to our children. Because knowing the multiplication facts is very foundation.
There should be a sense of urgency. We should be
concerned if we don't know them. We should be very
concerned if our children don't know them. The schools may
not do a good enough job with expressing the sense
of urgency. So I hope that anybody's listening to this
can hear it in my voice. This is not sweet.

Speaker 5 (01:36:02):
This is a Houston.

Speaker 7 (01:36:03):
We have a problem. If your child is in third
grade or beyond, it doesn't have the multiplication tacts memorized.
If they don't immediately see like six times nine written
on the board and immediately say on site fifty four,
that's a problem, right at least up to twelve times twelve.
You can go onto all thismath dot com website and
print out a blank multiplication template and do one of

(01:36:25):
those every single day. If you can't print them out,
then we can just practice multiplication facts. We just practice
multiplication facts. But we got to know the multiplication facts
because our children are going into schools, you know, the
elementary schools, middle schools, and they're being expected to do
things in the curriculum that they can't do because they
have a learning gap. They do not know the multiplication facts,

(01:36:47):
and because of that, then they end up not knowing
the division facts. And then because of that, they're not
able to factor out numbers, factor expressions and find least
common multiples and all these other types of things at
least common denominatives. So then when we get the fractions,
which a lot of people don't like, in which a
lot of people are uncomfortable with, they're not able to
perform in those areas. But we can trace it back
to if we reverse engineered the issue. We find that

(01:37:10):
a lot of these issues start with the fact that
a lot of our children do not know multiplication facts.
And as a family, we have to know multiplication facts.
So I can't say that enough. Right, we must know
multiplication facts. The black community must know. They multiply know
its multiplication facts. And yes, they are ours. You know,
we develop mathematics, so they're ours. They don't belong to

(01:37:32):
nobody else. It's not the exclusive domain, and nobody else
we're not visiting in mathematics. Mathematics is ours, so we
should act like it. Right, We got to know the
multiplication facts, because then we'll be able to thrive an algebra,
and algebra is the gatekeeper toward different opportunities differ where
if we're work, we really want to solve the issues
with crime and gun violence in the black community. A
lot of those, a lot of the crime and the

(01:37:53):
gun violence comes from economic dislocation, which comes from young
brothers thinking, well, what else I'm gonna do. You know
what I'm saying. I don't know algebra, I don't know math,
But you know what I'm saying, what else, I'm a
god on the street try to make some money. We
can prevent that by making sure our young people are
strong in mathematics.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
That's that's right, And let me for after the top,
I brother, k I got a tweet question for it.
Tweeter says grand rising to your guests and follow us
on this because this is some math question for you
as well. Just ask your guests if I gave seven
hundred dollars for security deposit in twenty oh six simple
interest at four percent, stayed in the apartment for twenty years,

(01:38:32):
how much money would it be in twenty twenty six?
How would I start to solve this math problem?

Speaker 7 (01:38:39):
So there's a formula for that. So we're talking about
simple interests, Okay, So yeah, so simple interests as opposed
to compound interests. There was compound interests. It'll be a
lot more expensive. But if we're investing, you always want
compound interests. For anybody listening, you want because the money's
gonna grow faster. You know, it's gonna well, it's gonna
grow more. It's not gonna grow It's not gonna seem
like much of a difference at first in the first
couple of years, but over time it's gonna it's gonna

(01:39:00):
roll a lot more. Interest in equals. What's that formula
principal times rate times interest rate times time. So it's I,
which is I stand for interest he is the principle.
That's the money they start out with, right, So they
what they say, seven hundred dollars correct, there's seve hundred dollars, right,
And then the interest rate was four percent, So you're
gonna flip the four percent per point zero four point

(01:39:22):
zero four. You just slide the decimal point over two
spaces to the left. There's an invisible decimal point after
the four So then the zero point zero four and
then the amount of time in years.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
How many years did they say, twenty years?

Speaker 5 (01:39:34):
Twenty years?

Speaker 7 (01:39:35):
So it's seven hundred. So anybody's listening, and they could
do this on their calculator if or you can do
it mentally if you want to. This looks like something
I would do on a calculator, just for the take
of efficiency, right, But even at to that point, let
me let me say this real quick. A lot of
us want to over rely on calculators. I'm gonna use
the calculator for this, but I know how to do
it by hand. I know how to do it mentally.
So for me, the calculator is an option. That's something

(01:39:57):
else you want to For your children, you want to
calculate it to be an option, not their only course
of action, not their only possible course. So what we
would do is we do seven hundred dollars toms point
zero four, So that'd be so if it was four,
that'd be twenty eight hundred. Slide the decimal point over
two spaces to the left. That's twenty eight. So that's
twenty eight dollars per year, So twenty eight dollars per

(01:40:20):
year in interest. Tom's twenty twenty eight times two would
be fifty six, and reattached to zero that's so that's
five hundred and sixty dollars.

Speaker 8 (01:40:31):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
But let me ask you this though, you know, because
you talked about using a calculator, would would be if
you just pose that question to Siri or Alexa your
thoughts on that, because this is what young people are
doing these days.

Speaker 7 (01:40:43):
I mean, you could do that if you want to,
but in the absence of knowing how to do it. Again,
the brain is a muscle. The brain is a muscle. Right,
you're not practicing. If you don't know how to do it, then,
for one, you never get the opportunity to learn how
to do it. And also, if you're not practicing, your
skill is going to lose the skill and then one
day you and and this is why we're moving closer
and closer toward the idiocracy. I want everybody to watch

(01:41:06):
that movie at some point if you can find the
idiocracy where you know our society is. You know, there's
a lot of idiocy, there's a lot of stupidity, and
the stupidity is being normalized in large part because we're
not practicing thinking, we're not practicing using our brains. And
we've been sold this bill of goods where we think, oh, well,
the convenience convenience trumps everything. No convenience is cool, but

(01:41:27):
we're doing too much.

Speaker 5 (01:41:28):
It's too convenient.

Speaker 7 (01:41:29):
At some point, you got to use your brain. You
gotta practice things. You got to put work in or
else else. What's gonna happen is those people that are
creating the technology, right, they're gonna be able to control
you and manipulate you, and one day it's gonna What's
gonna happen If somebody's gonna ask you a question and
it might be a simple question and for some reason,
you're not gonna be to answer it. You're gonna be like,

(01:41:49):
you're gonna be like stuck on stupid. As we were saying,
you're like what hut? But right because you haven't been practiced,
you've been using series too much, you've been using chat,
GPT too much. That stuff is like it's it's a
tool and it has its place. I get it right,
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
Yeah, let me jump here and ask this because you're
racing the clock right here. And I'm sure you're familiar
with a kind of academy because I remember when it started,
and this was maybe maybe about twenty years ago. One
of our Vince brother, Vincent Hollyadi was a tech guy
and he told us about this starting number by this.
This is maybe twenty or maybe thirty years ago when
he talked about this Econ Academy where they teach stuff

(01:42:24):
like this. Is there an equivalent con Academy Academy in
the black community, because I know you know what that is.

Speaker 7 (01:42:31):
Well, there's the all This Math YouTube channel. It's not
I would to say it's equivalent. You know, there's some
there's some differences. For example, the all This Math YouTube channel.
When you're going onto all this Math YouTube channel, you're
going to get some black history many lessons mixed in.
You're also going to see my face.

Speaker 6 (01:42:46):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:42:47):
Conk kind of has this like no face, no case
thing going on, but you know you're gonna see my face.
And I'm intentional with that, just like sol Kin is
intentional to not show his face because he does want
to distract from the lessons. But for me, I'm intentional
to show my face because I want I want part
of the lesson to be for black children and black
families to see, Oh, black people do math. We really
do this and we've been doing this so you know,

(01:43:11):
so there's the alternative. I would say, is the All
This Math YouTube channel where you'll get the math proficiency.
You'll get simplified math lessons. You're also gonna get some
political education. You're gonna get some you know, I might
promote some historically black colleges. You're gonna get many black
history lessons, you know, many African history lessons, you know.
So you're gonna get all of that, you know, all

(01:43:33):
all it in one stop shop, you know, and it's
free on YouTube. So make sure you go likely subscribe
All This Math YouTube channel. We have over a thousand
videos ranging from arithmetic up to calculus, and we just
crossed the eight thousand subscribe to threshold. So I want
to thank everybody has been supporting us up to up
to this point, you know, eight thousand subscribers.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
Wow, congratulations and thank you brother Cail. Thank you for
sharing your information with us this morning. Glad to know
that we have an equivalent to the Conic Canry, because
you know, they're being praising it all all over and
I remember when they started. We're looking for people our
children to get involved. Didn't see too many of them.
But you've you've created a space for chi and get
involved and learn math. So thank you for doing that

(01:44:15):
for us. And how can folks reach if they want
to get involved.

Speaker 7 (01:44:19):
So the website is all thismath dot com. There's a
contact tad you can you can reach out to. So
all this math dot com just like the company name.
Also we're on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, all this math. You know,
please please reach out and make sure you know you can,
you know, look at one of the YouTube videos and
drop a comment in there too. I'll get I'll get
a notification, you know. But yeah, let's let's let's let

(01:44:41):
let's learn these multiplication facts. That's today's themes, the multiplication facts.
We need that insect. You got to learn the multiplication facts.
And not just the kids. Parents, learn your multiplication facts.

Speaker 5 (01:44:53):
They are yours.

Speaker 7 (01:44:54):
They belong to you, grandparents. It's never too late, never
too late. Just because we're not in school, don't mean
we can't I learned. You need to be lifelong learners.
You got to learn these multiplication facts.

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
Gotcha. Thank you, er Keel, and thank you for what
you do for our children. Man, thank you, thank you,
thank you, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:45:10):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
All right, family, that's a kill. Parker is based in Philly,
and he said, we call him a math guru, and
I wish we knew him when I was growing up.
Eight hundred and four or five zero, seventy eight to
seventy six, Doctor B standing by. He's with us now,
Grand rising, Doctor B. Welcome back to the program.

Speaker 5 (01:45:26):
Good day, good day, good day.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
Is great to be here, Doctor B. We've come up
on the the fall equinox. Can you explain that the
the what is? First of all, what is the fall equinox?
And how should we prepare for it? And I think
it's coming next Monday if I'm correct.

Speaker 4 (01:45:44):
Yes, yes, Then the fall equinox is when the sun
is directly over the equator, and that's the beginning of
fall in the northern hemisphere, and we're coming up on that.
The signs of it are when the leaves start falling
from the trees and turning all those beautiful colors. And
that shift is a major shift that happens over the

(01:46:07):
entire planet. Where we go through the equinox, there's a
spring equinox and there's the fall equinox, and these shifts
are major and connect directly to who we are in
our health.

Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
So if the south of the equator, then it would
be spring.

Speaker 4 (01:46:24):
Yes, So this is the beginning of spring south of
the equator, and it's the beginning of fall north of
the equator.

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
So what about the folks who live on the line
of the equator, Because I know, we're in Kenya once
and there was a line on the equator where this
is the this is the equator. This line here, you
take one step and you're in the north and it
would step back and they they used to pot of
water and how the water sets, the circulation of the
water changed just by the different steps that you're in.
So how does that deal with those folks who live

(01:46:54):
in that area.

Speaker 4 (01:46:56):
Well, you know, when you're on the equator, you're always
in that season. You know what I'm saying. The sun
is always bright, it's always got it to The days
don't change because in the northern hemisphere right now, the
days are getting shorter and shorter. Right in the southern
hemisphere they're getting longer and longer. So around the equator,
that's a whole different zone. That's the zone where life,

(01:47:18):
you know, is the plants are green all around the year.
In fact, it's really interesting because around the equator that's
where most of the minerals are. The minerals that are
you know that we need for healthy plants, for healthy
livestock and food even for ourselves. They're always you know,
they're very There's a lot of them around the equator

(01:47:39):
because all the rivers, the centrifugal force of the earth
spinning makes the water go towards the equator. So that's
where the minerals that comes from those rivers and those
streams that all go towards the equator. That's where the
most minerals are. That's where the highest amount of energy
in sunlight is and that's that's the zone that's I mean,

(01:47:59):
you know, we're fortunate if we can be there.

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
Oh wow, fortune half the tops. Speaking about math, that's
a good for brother Akil because with doctor b Stone
by his mathematics right now. But doctor b what was
you we should be doing?

Speaker 12 (01:48:13):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
You know the changing the season's coming up? What we
as people? What should we be doing? Should we be
changing or just the same same old same ol? How
do you see it?

Speaker 4 (01:48:23):
Well, we have to change if we're going to stay
healthy because when the the environment changes, you know, it
affects our body. You know, our genes are more affected
by our environment than they are by what we know
received from our parents. So this is the season when
we should be changing the food especially you know, if
you're eating a summer diet in the fall, if weakens

(01:48:45):
your immune system. And that's why a lot of folks
get the flu because they're still living off the foods
that are available only in the summer. We should be
eating according to the season, and one of the ways
to recognize this is to go to farmers' markets. See
the one thing about grocery stores. You know, when grocery
stores came about, you could get everything all the time,
and that's not good for our bodies because our bodies

(01:49:07):
are connected directly to the environment that we're in. So
if we're if we're in fall right now, we have
to eat the foods that are more warming foods like
you know, vegetables and like that's why this is the
time for root vegetables, sweet potatoes and beets, and things
that are rich in fiber like apples and pears, and

(01:49:28):
you know, just warming spices like ginger and cinnamon, and
clothes because this is the time to to get because
the summer heat. In Chinese medicines, they talk about how
the seasons have a lot to do with our bodies consistencies.
So according to the Chinese medicine calendars and in their medicine,

(01:49:51):
this is the season for metals, so we need more iron.
We need more iron in the fall. Iron, dude. Iron
helps to transport oxygen. It helps to make your healthy
blood cells that have the ability to transport oxygen and
nutrients to yourself. If you don't have enough iron, then

(01:50:12):
you can't do that very well. And look at you
know most people of color. Our issue is we're iron deficient.
We're in Munich.

Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
Yeah, hold that Throe right there, Doctor B. We gotta
take a show break, and when we come back, I
want to explain that to us about what we should
be doing in the fall that starts on Monday. Says
we need most of us need more iron. Where do
we get the iron from? So I'll let him respond
to that when we get back. Dr B. By the way,
he's a master herbalist and also a metaphysician, and you
got a question for him, reach out to us at
eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six and

(01:50:42):
we'll take a phone calls. Next.

Speaker 1 (01:50:44):
Now, back to the Carl Nelson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:51:08):
And Grand Rising family. Thanks are rolling with us on
this Wednesday morning. It's a hump day. That means we're
halfway through the work week. I guess there is a
metaphysician is also a master Herbalist's doctor B. That's his name.
He's been here before. Before we left, we talked about
the fall equinox. It starts on Monday. So I guess
and correct me if I'm wrong here, Doctor me, this's
one we have equal hours of daylight and a night life.

(01:51:31):
And he says we should change our diets to coincide
with the changes as well. And he says one of
the things that black folks need is iron. So currently,
if I made any mistake, said doctor B. But how
do we get this iron? What sort of foods do
we look for that's got iron?

Speaker 4 (01:51:46):
Well, root vegetables are going to have more iron, you know,
things like yams and beats. You know, the original potato
has got some iron in it. But the thing about
it is in North America, the soil is not as
rich as like I said it would be around the
equator because a lot of the soil that the plants

(01:52:07):
are being grown in is nutrient deficient. And so even
though some of the greens and things. They say, well
they've got a lot of iron. Well they should have
a lot of iron naturally, but because of the degradation
of soil in the northern hemisphere, we need supplements. One
of the best supplements for iron is going to be sasaparilla.

(01:52:27):
You know, sasparilla. They used to make drinks out of
it and things like that. But sasa marilla, which grows
really well around the equator, is high in what we
call nascent iron. Nascent iron is iron that has been
digested or has been absorbed by plants. So that means
that in order for the iron to get into the plant,
it has to be very small particles. It's the small,

(01:52:50):
small particles of iron that our body needs, not the
bulk iron like you know. I remember I went to
the doctor once and he said I was lowing iron,
and he gave me this, you know, peric oxide, which
is like rust. You know, these are large particles of
iron that is too dense to even you know, for
our bodies even to absorb it. And that's why we
have a problem using the restroom, you know, especially you

(01:53:13):
know number two, because that iron actually puts the colon
in paralysis. So herbs like burdock, and another one is
metal metal. Those are high in iron, but it has
to be nascent iron. It has to be an iron
that is digestible, otherwise the particles are too big. A

(01:53:34):
lot of the you know, minerals and things that we
use in you know, it's interesting. Did you know that
most of the vitamins and mineral supplements that we use
in North America that are in your public stores are
made from industrial waste. This is leftover stuff from industry.
It is iron, but it's not the right type of iron,

(01:53:56):
so we end up being even more deficient. You see.
And when you look at it, you know, you gotta
look at when we go back and look at the
traditional Chinese medicine, the way they live, the way their system.
The fall element is metal. See, they knew that we
needed metal at this time of year, not just metal,
but iron specifically to strengthen us. Because when we go

(01:54:20):
through the fall, all of a sudden, we have this
thing called flu season that pops up right. It's because
of the emotional states that are tied to the season.
I check this out. Unresolved grief, anxiety, and sadness becomes
stronger in the fall. Why, because the sun is lower
in the sky, the days are shorter, and people are

(01:54:43):
not getting enough sunlight, not the same amount of sunlight
they were getting in the summer. So vitamin D levels
drop and our body now is looking at searching for
minerals to balance itself in that season. You see, the
fall is linked to the large intestine, the colon, I
mean the large intestine and the lungs. So this is

(01:55:05):
the time for colon cleansing, detoxing, detoxing from parasites and
things like that, and also exercising the lungs. So deep breathing.
Deep breathing is important because that's the way of relieving toxins.
We relieve or let go of a lot of toxins
by breathing breath. And a lot of us don't. We

(01:55:27):
don't breathe deep enough. You know, when you're in stress
and all that, and you got to go, go, go,
you gotta compete, your breath gets short. See, breath is
connected to life force. So this is the season for breathing.
This is the season for eating those root vegetables and
eating the vegetables that are connected to the season. Now
when we have more iron in this season, Remember I said,

(01:55:50):
the unresolved grief, anxiety and the sadness becomes stronger. And
you notice that in people, something starts happening to the
people because they're not getting enough some like Well, iron
helps to make us more courageous, It helps us balance moods,
It helps with emotion, it helps with stress. In fact,
one of the signs of iron deficiency, car is when

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all of a sudden, we have these mood swings. We're short,
we're angry at everything, you know, we're fearful. The news
comes on, we jump into arguments and we get into
the stressful mold because we are our bodies are struggling
looking for balance. So this is the time, just like
the sun when it's over the equator on Monday, that's
the equal nights, when it's equal day in equal night.

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So in this season, it is time for our bodies
to get in what we call homeo balance, homeostasis or balance,
you see. And if we're still eating the foods of
the summer, like even watermelon right now, so folks still
trying to eat it. But right now, if you notice
the watermelon's a little funny, and if you've got a
good watermelon. Now it mightn't even be from people that
might come from somewhere way down South America or somewhere.

(01:56:58):
And those those vegetables and things that come from far away,
which they are in the grocery stores, they don't have
as many nutrients. We need nutrient dense foods, you see.

Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
And well, let me jump in and ask you this though,
doctor be a twenty seven at the top, that what
about just you know, going to get some vitamins, get
some iron vitamins like you mentioned, get some vitamin B,
vitamin D, whatever the doctor says it's short. Wouldn't that
be just easier than trying to find the food that's
got uh these vitamins there? Because you already mentioned that
the the nutrients nutrients in these uh these uh these

(01:57:32):
plants is deficient because of the soil. Uh So it
wouldn't be better just to get the real just the
real thing, the manufactured thing, if you will.

Speaker 4 (01:57:42):
Well, like I said, when you buy these commercial vitamins
and things, a lot of them are made from industrial
waste if they're not the right type. I haven't seen
a good uh iron supplement in the stores. I just haven't.
I go look in I say, well, this is okay,
but we need lots of iron to keep strong, to
keep us focused and keep our immune system and our

(01:58:03):
nervous system, you know strong. So I created one. I said, well,
let me go put together the things so folks.

Speaker 12 (01:58:09):
Don't have to get it.

Speaker 4 (01:58:10):
So I have this product called Iron Essential because iron
is essential. So we have that at our website at
elevation time dot com. And we find that most people
are iron deficient. They're anemic. So you could take all
the herbs and all the vitamins, you could eat all
the best foods you want, but it's not going to

(01:58:30):
be something that your body can use because you need
iron to help transport, you know, helps the help the
blood cells have, you know, the ability to carry those
nutrients to yourself. You have to have healthy blood cells.

Speaker 1 (01:58:45):
So this is key.

Speaker 4 (01:58:46):
This is essential. Iron is essential. But like I say,
most of the commercial irons are either they don't have
enough iron or they have the wrong type of iron.
So I created a very very good, you know, iron supplement.
It's called iron you know, Iron Essential, and it's because
of that, especially at this time of season.

Speaker 2 (01:59:10):
All right, twenty eight after the top of that doctor
being got a tweet question to it, It says grind Rising,
Doctor B. Can you talk about people with Celiac disease?
What should that diet be, what should that diet be
consist of, and what should they stay away from? What
supplements or ant herbs are good for them? Thanks, it's
a question for you, doctor B.

Speaker 4 (01:59:31):
Well, I'm not a medical doctor, and I gotta be
very careful here, so I can't make medical advice. If
I were you, number one, I'd make sure that I'm
staying away from gluten. Gluten that's the glue. It's like
the you know, you know, you know, wheat makes glue.
Remember when we were young, we used to make paste.
We used to put water and flour together to make paste.

(01:59:52):
We to make this what was that paper mache and
things like that. So that that the high gluten wheat
that we use in North America, that's the most popular.
One has lots of gluten. Now there are other wheats
that don't have as much gluten, but the one that
we use which resists bugs and molds and all that,

(02:00:12):
and you know that there's there's a reason why commercially
they use this week but it is high in gluten
and gluten is destructive to the digestive track. It's you know,
and and along with that, they're going to put most
of those bread products are going to have these yeasts
that actually grow fungus. You know, there's there's different types

(02:00:35):
of yeast. There's yeats that workforce and there's youth that
work against us. But when we use a lot of
that white process wheat, it begins to destroy the intestinal system. Also,
white processed sugar. White processed sugar very destructive to the
digestive track. And we can't. You know, it's no way

(02:00:58):
in the world we're going to fix the body if
we keep damaging the body. We have to eat foods
like right now, if I was a person dealing with CELIACX,
I would stay in the season. I would eat like
sweet potatoes, pumpkins, beets, foods rich in fiber, like apples
and pears. Look at the foods that are in this season.
The next thing with Celiac's disease is we got to
get rid of the fungus in the yeast. I mean

(02:01:19):
in the parasites. That's a big piece of this parasites.
So you know that's my specialty, parasites and not just
the digestive parasites, but the systemic parasites that leave throughout
the body. So you know, if you're able, you know,
I'm doing a free class on Saturday, actually every Saturday
for the rest of this month. You know, it's about
the it's called the Enemy within, and we'll be touching

(02:01:41):
on that things like.

Speaker 2 (02:01:45):
We lost doctor B. The line may have dropped, Kevin,
if you're getting back for us, because we want to
talk to doctor B. Also about connecting the doster between
Telemere's txings and parasites. Specialty talked about parasisees, but doctor
B was one of the first brothers I knew talking
about telamese, and then the other folks started talking about it,

(02:02:06):
and he was and he did some work with did
Gregory came up with a product too to help us
connect it. And it'll explain to you what what what
your telo mares is and we all have telamese. But
basically it's the fountain of youth, that's what that's what
what it is. And there's a way that you know,
you've seen people who have got some age on it,
but they're still looking good. They still look real, real young,
and you wonder what they do. And you know, part

(02:02:27):
of it, of course is exercise, and the other part
is diet and and but doctor be will explain it.
He also make those connections that mentioned between toxins and
he talked about and his back. So doctor bal, I'll
let you finish your thought. We lost it for a minute.

Speaker 4 (02:02:41):
So parasites are a big part of our you know,
our disease challenge right now, or our challenge with health,
I should say, because they're eating a lot of the
nutrients in things like you know, these digestive issues. They
are eating the food and eating parts of our body.
This is what systemic parasites do. So when we remove

(02:03:02):
the parasites and also the yeast and stop eating the
foods that are actually causing you know, the foods in
America are just amazingly dangerous.

Speaker 1 (02:03:12):
Man.

Speaker 4 (02:03:13):
It's just I can't believe that a lot of this
stuff is allowed. You know, when you start studying foods
and you start reading the ingredients, you know, go on
the back of some of those boxes and things that
you see at the grocery store and read the ingredients,
it's mind blowing that this is allowed. I mean a
lot of them are cancer causing and you know they

(02:03:33):
don't have Let.

Speaker 2 (02:03:33):
Me just be and ask you this though, doctor, because
I did read an article recently about the difference between
foods and American foods and foods in the UK, and
they were making they were totally different. Folks would go
to McDonald's, they will say that fries tastes different than
the one stateside. The bread even it's the same company,
but it tastes different because they've eliminated a lot of

(02:03:54):
those the preservatives that are in our food. How can
we get around all this because we know they you know,
they do that so they can maintain the shelf life
so they can last longer. But they're still not good
for us. But the European countries have rejected them. So
how do we as a people get around all of this?

Speaker 4 (02:04:12):
See here, it's about money, and if you look at
the food industry, it's a six billion dollars a day industry.
It's about the money. It's not about your health. So
of course, if you can make something sit on the
shelf two years or a year and it doesn't go
bad because it's you know, it's got preservatives of what

(02:04:33):
they call excito toxins, you do it because it's about
the business. It's not about the health of the people,
you know. And I thought about it one day and
I said, I wonder what the big difference is. And
a lot of countries around the world, you have free
health care. If you're sick, you go to the doctor,
they help you. It's a part of you pay it
in your taxes, right, so they would like you to

(02:04:53):
be well. You see, if the health care is free
or very inexpensive, the system wants you to be well.
So you don't put as much weight on that system.
Over here, you pay for health care, so the thicker
you are, the more you're going to feed into that system.
Because it's folks that go to the doctor for everything.

(02:05:14):
I'm saying, go to the farmer's market, grow some foods.
Some folks have never even gone to a farmer's market
or gone to a farm where they could see the
food and touch the food. It changes you. We've got
to begin to get out of convenience. If we're gonna
make it, convenience has got to go. We're gonna take
some time, you know, stop using the microwave, start cooking food,

(02:05:37):
start having a visceral experience with the food that we're eating.
But the most important thing eat in the season. Eat
foods that are seasonal. And in farmers' markets, you're going
to see that right away because they're not you know,
those farmers are actually bringing the food that only grow. Now,
if you're eating food that are out of season, then
you're going to be out of luck. You're going to

(02:05:57):
be out of balance. Your system cannot operate well whilst
trying to digest food that's not even digestible because a
lot of times it's preserved and they put all kinds
of chemicals gases on it to make it look okay,
and they put you know, dyes, and I mean, it's
amazing when you start studying the nature of food and
you know, food, what you eat is who you are.

(02:06:19):
You are what you eat. So if you eat junks, no,
it's you know, why is heart disease so big in America?
Why is cancer so big in America? And the you know,
one of the top reasons for deaths in America is eeftrogenesis.
This is the medical system caused diseases because we're sometimes

(02:06:39):
being over medicated. You know, sometimes we don't even know
that we're an experiment. They're trying something new on you.
You see, food should be our medicine. Actually, our mind
is the first medicine. You're thinking, how you think about life,
how you feel about life. What you choose to eat
has to do with your mind. You see. The second
medicine is going to be your boom. Eat the best foods,

(02:07:03):
find the best supplements, and you've got to detox every
time the season has changed. And I've been talking about
this now for what thirty years.

Speaker 2 (02:07:13):
I hold that thought right there because we want to
get more into this because the seasons are changing on Monday,
and we need to find a way, Doctor B, how
to fortify our immune system. Many of us have immune
systems that are compromised. What should we do? Because you
mentioned the coming up this flu season also on the
COVID that never went away, still around, So when people
get sick coming into the fall, what should we do?

(02:07:33):
What sort of advice do you have for our folks?
Twenty three minutes away from the top, they our family,
call up a couple of friends telling the doctor Bees
on the radio. They'll appreciate it and they'll thank you.
We got to step aside as I mentioned, and we'll
come back with your phone calls. If you want to
speak to doctor B at eight hundred four or five
zero seventy eight seventy six. We'll ticket calls next and
Grand Rising family, thanks for staying with us on this
Wednesday morning with our guest that doctor B, doctor Bees

(02:07:56):
is a master herbalist and he's also a metaphysician. And
before we go back to Lemnis, remind you coming up
tomorrow are going to hear from the University of Houston's
doctor Gerald Horn. Also at Memphis City councilor Woman Pearl
Walker will be with us. You know, Donald Trump is
threatening to send troops into Memphis. She's going to give
her response to that threat. So make sure you keep
your radio locked in tight on ten ten WLB if

(02:08:18):
you are in Baltimore, but if you're in the DMV
rolling on FM ninety five point nine at am fourteen
fifty WOL. All right, Doctor B. You mean tell us
about this fall equinox. It takes place on Monday, and
you're saying this is when the season changes, and usually
the season changeses. You mentioned that it's flu season and
when COVID nineteen COVID never went away. Still here and

(02:08:39):
many of the problem is so many of us have
immune systems that are compromised. What can you tell us
to fortify how immune systems as we go into the fall.
What should we be doing well?

Speaker 4 (02:08:50):
Number one, it's eating the foods that are available in
the season. Also breathing deeply, doing some sort of exercises
like yoga, you know, the breathing exercises that just helps
us to you see, we got to the channels of
the channels of what we call toxic detoxification, which is

(02:09:14):
your skin, so sweating. When you sweat, you're actually pushing
toxins out of the body. You see, when you are
breathing deeply, you're clearing those channels those toxins that are
in your cell. When you do that, you begin to change,
You begin to tap into the season. You begin to detoxify. Now,

(02:09:38):
the deeper detoxification is the cleansing, the detoxification like a
parasite clean So you know, we created this program many
many years ago that is a twenty eight day program
that helps to detoxify from parasites, fungus, and yeast and
toxins within the body that we've accumulated throughout the years.
It's called the Elevated Total Body. Now that deals with

(02:10:02):
not just parasites that are in the colon, because there's
a lot of herbs that you can use and simple
things for parasites in the colon. But this is the
systemic parasites, because these systemic parasites lose throughout the body.

Speaker 2 (02:10:15):
Carl.

Speaker 4 (02:10:16):
You know, a lot of systemic parasites come from what
we callth NO specific pathogens. S NO specific pathogens are
bugs and entities that they made in labs for certain people.
So let's say, like in the Vietnam War, they were
using chemicals on people in the Vietnam War that was

(02:10:39):
only supposed to kill with the Vietnamese based on their genes.
There was a situation in Saint Louis that Dick Gregor
used to talk about where they wanted to get these people,
black folks out of this housing project so they could
build this new, you know project. So they sprayed something
on that housing project. It's theth NO specific pathogen. These

(02:11:00):
are weaponized bugs, weaponized passogens, you see, and those pathogens
are in the environment, ones that just deal with certain people.
So we're talking about superbugs now we're talking about man
made entities. Then we also have parasites and Parasites are
things that live in or on a host and use

(02:11:22):
that host energy. They eat the food of the host,
and they they are the nutrients some of them. Even
there's a really powerful book that talks about this, the brain,
This is Your Brain on Parasites, and it talks about
how parasites have been found to control the thought process
of people, the thoughts. There's one parasite called toxoplasma and

(02:11:45):
they say possibly seventy percent of the people have this
parasite that lives in the brain. It lives in the amygdala.
And this is what's so important about it. The amygdala
helps to control your concept of fear, your your concept
of who you are. See, look how much we live

(02:12:07):
in fear nowadays. We're afraid of everything. They come on
the news and say things that make us afraid. Even
in marketing, they scare you to make you buy a
product because the fear right, the fear vibration is it
goes to your body, and your body says, we got
to survive something bad out there. It's terrible. So they
sell products through fear, They sell you politics through fear.

(02:12:31):
You know, everything is about fear. But when we're in
our natural selves, we know how to process things and
see if it makes sense, and we go with our
gut instincts. Your gut instinct tells you whether you should
be dealing with something or not, whether you should be
afraid of it. Half the business that we're trying to
be in is not even ours because we're you know,
the mass distraction vibration is used nowadays, and we're looking

(02:12:53):
for things you know, that are that are that could
hurt us. Oh my god, you heard what's on the
news that could hurt us. And if you start believing
in all these things and you start living this life
of fear and you're living in what they call fight
or flight, your immune system is low. Because you immune
system can only do.

Speaker 12 (02:13:09):
One thing at a time.

Speaker 4 (02:13:10):
It's going to attack what it thinks is the problem.
And if there's no problem, right, but you believe there's
a problem, it attacks you. So this is this becomes
your own mental parasite. And in my class, the Enemy Within,
which we've been teaching for the last week, you know
it's actually on line right now, the Enemy within, and
we talk about how your mind is connected, right, your

(02:13:32):
mind is connected to your body, and if you have
things in your body, like toxoplasma that are controlling your perception.
It's control, if the mind controlled parasite that controls what
you think and what you feel about things. Fear is
what causes us to be really sick. We automatically become

(02:13:52):
a little fearful in the fall because oh my god,
it's going to be cold. We start worrying there's not
enough sunlight. The news even gets worse than the fall.
The commercials and everything is. Something starts happening as we
move into the holiday season. And then you want to eat, eat, eat,
because when people are afraid, they eat. They eat a
lot of food. They eat things that they shouldn't eat

(02:14:14):
because you feel you might be without you. See, so
all of those things are connecting us to this place
that may not even actually be real, this idea of
things are bad and the world is coming to an end.
I remember when I was a child, they talked about
the world was coming to an end. It is always
coming to an end. Just think if you have a

(02:14:35):
parasite in your head that's controlling your perception of fear
and controlling your perception of what you should be even
focusing on wouldn't you want to get rid of that
look it up. Toxoplasma. It's the mind control parasite that
gets people to lose their identity, to be worried about

(02:14:56):
things that really don't it's not even going to affect them,
instead of being more concerned about what is going to
make them healthy. What's going to make you healthy are
going to be you making choices that can boost your
immune system. One of the things that toxoplasma has you doing.
It has people doing something called automatic self harm. So

(02:15:19):
the automatic self harm is when you walk in the
grocery store and you just pick something so you don't
even read what it is. You don't even care. You're
picking food for your family. Did you read what's on
the product that you're about to use? It says the
eight if you call that eight hundred numbers, or even
look in the back. It says that this thing, you know,
it kills rats. You know how hard it is to

(02:15:40):
kill a rat? Do you know what? They're soaking these
meats and the foods in to keep them preserved and
to keep them what they call looking fresh. So we're
picking up these parasites from what we eat from the environment.
You're going to have parasites. You're not gonna be here
to say. You know, a lot of people say, what's
not to be I'm a vegan, good, I don't have parasite.

(02:16:01):
I just did a Colon Quinn. Systemic parasites lived throughout
the system, and taxoplasma will convince you that you don't
have a problem with the parasites because it's going to
protect itself.

Speaker 2 (02:16:14):
Right and hold up though, right there, Doctor B. Who
folks want to talk to you also got some tweet
questions too, and also one of them tweets about RFK
and saying that we shouldn't take vaccines and they want
to ask you about that, about what means for our children.
But brother Carlis is calling us from Waldorf, Maryland, has
a question for you. He's online, what Grand Rising brother callus?
You're only doctor B.

Speaker 15 (02:16:33):
Grand Rising, my dear brothers, and thank you for all
the helpful information. The one I have a two part question.
When you mentioned the an I was wondering what do
you think of the product called vitron C plus iron,
which is recommended by some of the medical doctors. That's
my first question, and my second question would be the

(02:16:56):
how can we get away from the so called slave
diet and what the impact that that has on the
our health. I'm talking about African Americans, Uh, because in
that sense, I think that that's a way of that
that they have found to kill us, to kill us.
Uh and uh And finally, what do you think about

(02:17:19):
the the food called ken wa to substitute for rice
which you're thinking on that? So uh, unless you have
a question, I'll take the answer off air.

Speaker 4 (02:17:32):
Let's go to the first one again. What was your
first question?

Speaker 8 (02:17:35):
Uh?

Speaker 15 (02:17:36):
The product called vitron v I T R O O
N C plus iron which is sold you know, in
in in in in the in the pharmaceutical sections of
of the of the Have you heard of that one?

Speaker 4 (02:17:54):
I haven't heard of that one, but I'd be very
careful of that.

Speaker 15 (02:17:58):
Okay, Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:17:59):
I would not put iron and vitamin C in the
same product. This is my teaching, because the vitamin C
will cause the iron to rust.

Speaker 5 (02:18:13):
Okay, Okay, that's what now modern.

Speaker 4 (02:18:18):
What they call modern science says that that's good. But
rust is not the type of iron. The ferric oxide
is not the type of iron that we need. We
need Mason iron. So I don't know about that product.
I can't say that sounds like something commercial that did
sell and drug stores. What I'm saying is that iron
is a very specific type of iron that we need,

(02:18:40):
and you know, we do have that at Elevation Time
dot com and it's called Iron Essential and it comes
from sasparilla and a metal burdock and it's like five
other things that we use in there to help to
help the iron get into the cells. Just having iron
is not enough. It has to get into the cells
a thick way to create you know, products that have

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a transport system to get them into the cell. And
that's what we do.

Speaker 2 (02:19:09):
And the second question, the most he was my keen
Why wasn't it?

Speaker 7 (02:19:14):
Now?

Speaker 4 (02:19:17):
I think it was a keen wah, But go.

Speaker 2 (02:19:20):
Ahead because I didn't write them down, but go ahead.

Speaker 4 (02:19:23):
Keen Wah is a very good substitute for rice. Now,
wild rice is actually pretty good if you're using real
wild rice, but if you're using keen wa, just keep
in mind that if you must soak it first, you
must soak keen wat because it has a coating on it,
and that coding is what they call. It has electing

(02:19:44):
rich coating and your body might have a little challenge
of digesting it. Until you begin to ferment it, and
you can just put it in water. Some people put
a little bit of vinegar in the water. I've even
heard of people putting a little bit of baking soda
in the water and let it sit for a little
bit and then you know, wash it off, rint it
off and then and then make your quo.

Speaker 2 (02:20:04):
But quinoa is very goodly well, let mess you it's
the same. That's the same technique applies to fruits, you know,
because I heard that there's a lot of fruits that
they have the preservatives on them, with be apples, oranges, bananas, cherries,
I'm thinking grapefruits, all the fruits. Is that what we
should do when we buy fruits, grapes.

Speaker 4 (02:20:25):
Everything you're buying from a store, you need to wash everything.
So you can simply put some vinegar and baking soda
like I'm talking about. You know, you could use almost
any of the vinegars at this point and baking soda
in a pan or a bowl and it's gonna foam up.
Put your fruit in there, put your vegetables in there,

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and that begins to remove some of the coating, some
of the toxins, some of the chemicals and sprays that
they use on vegetables and then rinse them off and
then cook them.

Speaker 2 (02:20:59):
And some great advices away from the top of that.
Bob's checking in online three Bob Grind Rising. You're on
with doctor.

Speaker 13 (02:21:04):
Bod Marian Joel. I'm gonna show you, said doctor b
Park fast what you're saying, but what do you think
about fast?

Speaker 4 (02:21:15):
Fasting is excellent and as many different ways to fast.
A simple fast is when we when we just maybe
move away from all the foods but fruit. You know,
this is a good time to eat really good fruit,
so that's considered a fast too. There's water fast and
water fast are good if you do it very carefully

(02:21:35):
or if you know, if you get someone to assist
you with this, it would be great because a lot
of folks do water fast and they're not getting enough
of the nutrients. I would add a mineral cement because
the body really needs minerals. And then sometimes when we're
faster with enough minerals, and if we're doing a water fast,
I'll also make sure that I put a little bit
of Celtic sea salt in that water, because the Celtic

(02:21:57):
seafalt has the minerals that we need. But fast is excellent.
This would be a pact to help the body, you know,
take a break from digestion and all those things, and
it helps to detoxify all of the chemicals and things,
not all of them, but many of the things that
are just floating around in the extra cellular fluid outside
of the cells. Now fasting. From what I know on

(02:22:18):
the extreme fasting, it may not deal with the intracellular fluid,
but it will help the extracellular fluid, which is the
cell the liquid around the cells, to help to move
some of that out.

Speaker 2 (02:22:30):
All right, we're gotta take a break, Bob. If you
have a follow up question, stay with us and I'll
let you pose the question when we get back. Because
talking about fasting as well and intermedia fasting that I
want you to discuss this at as well, Doctor Big,
and also all different kinds of facts. So we'll hit
that when we get back. Family, you want to join
this conversation with doctor b. Doctor b is a master herbalist,
it's also a metaphysician. Reach out to us at eight

(02:22:52):
hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll
take your phone calls.

Speaker 1 (02:22:56):
Next the Carl Nelson show with the most awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:23:25):
And thank you family for staying with us, Grand Rising
and the top of the Eye with our guess, Doctor B.
Doctor B is a master Herbi is also a metaphysician.
Before we left Bob is Johnson and Cantonsville, Bobby had
a follow up question for doctor B.

Speaker 13 (02:23:39):
Yeah, yeah, that's s I us playing with Doctor Clark
Shrewd a book called All Choose All these issues to
heavy metals and parasites, and she recommended Black Morning, take
sure with clothes and uh on the media one one
that allows by the way.

Speaker 4 (02:24:03):
So there is a controversial piece of this, and I
want to be careful how I say this. Clothes, wormwood,
black walnut are diatomacous earth, pumpkin seeds and all of
those things very good for parasites in the digestive tract.

(02:24:28):
They're very good for that. You can even eat pumpkin seeds,
a handful of pumpkin seeds, you know, four times a
day for two days and remove a lot of your
digestive tract parasites. In my research, we find that the
digestive system parasites aren't the most dangerous. It is a

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systemic parasites. They live in the heart, deliver the kidneys,
the thyroid, the thymus, and even the brain. Those herbs,
which may be very good for the colon and digest subtract,
are not going to be able to deal with those
systemic parasites very well. They just can't do it, you see.
And it's because herbs alone are not going to get

(02:25:10):
rid of some superbugs. You're gonna need these sensual oils.
You're gonna need flower essences. We need what we call
m state minerals, you know, monoatomic minerals, and you have
to use sound and frequency, and some of these parasites
you can only change the way they communicate with each other.
You can't get rid of them because they've got these

(02:25:32):
things on their bodies which are like antennas they call receptors,
and they communicate in hives, and they know when you're
trying to get rid of them. So the average parasite claims,
they tell you start taking these herbs and take them
for seven days and or whatever.

Speaker 13 (02:25:45):
They say to do.

Speaker 4 (02:25:45):
Right the minute you take these herbs, that as soon
as they hit your tongue, a vibration goes through your
body and alert these parasites that you're coming after them.
They're very intelligent. These are two point point five billion
year old creatures. They're here for survival. And the minute
you use these simple herbal programs, what happens is they hide.

(02:26:10):
Where do they go? They burrow, They burrow into your
bone marrow. They hide these behind tissues. Some parasites even
become translucent so they can't be seen. They have weight,
they know how to cloak themselves in the body. These
parasites are very intelligent, so you've got to build up

(02:26:30):
slowly right when you're attacking them. You have to increase
certain herbs over a like we have. Like what we
do is we graduate on the first day. You're only
taking a certain amount of these herbs, and that small
amount the parasites don't detect. And you take these herbs
and you graduate over a six day period before you

(02:26:51):
get to what we call critical masks. And you have
to hunt them by gradually invading their environment. And it
takes twenty eight days. Tear me now, twenty eight days
to deal with superbugs. Why twenty eight days because that's
your bio rhythm, that's your body's rhythm that you know,

(02:27:13):
and these parasites are living beside you. That's what parasite means.
These are beings living beside you. So when you start
taking herbs and things, they change. They know exactly what
you're taking and what you're trying to do. If these
herbs have been used since biblical days and before that,
well guess what a lot of them have to give it.
They've changed. They they've mutated. Just like when we put

(02:27:34):
you know, chemicals on plants and things. After a while,
it doesn't affect the bugs because the baby bugs are
now immune to what you use last year, so they
got to use a new drug or new chemical. Same
thing with parasites. We've been using these age old formulas forever,
but yess what, they've become less and less effective every
year because they're getting used to it. So for that

(02:27:58):
what we do in our formulation we change the formula
every season. You have to switch out certain herbs. You
can't use certain ones all the time, certain minerals, right,
we use more of certain minerals or certain we use
things like fulsc as acid and humic acid. What do
they do? They actually change the frequency of the herbs.

(02:28:20):
They boost the frequency of these herbs so that we
can begin to play around with the way they communicate.
When you are able to truncate the way they communicate,
when you're able to distort the frequency of the parasites,
they can't make they're not gonna work together. And they
work together, and you don't have one parasite. Most people

(02:28:41):
have multiples and multiplesites. And when you kill the weak
parasites by doing a colon clin or doing a colon
parasite clin, that makes the superbugs stronger. And we've seen
this in the lab, you know, we've used some of
these things like the art of mesium that folks are
talking about in the lab, and these parasites are like, well,
give us more, but we like that. And the sage right,

(02:29:02):
A lot of folks in U sage, you sage right,
But the sage is actually not the right stage that
they even put in the documents. It's the Chinese version
of sage. It's actually not even a stage. It's a
mug wart. It's a very special type of mug wart
that grows in China. It also grows in Peru. So
we have studied the plants that are used all over

(02:29:25):
the world for parasites, and guess what the parasites that
are in you are not just from here, then from
other countries, from other places, other regions, because the food
is brought in and people have come from all over
the world to this place. This is now a third
world country, so folks are carrying all kinds of stuff
and it's no way to live here and not have parasite.

Speaker 2 (02:29:46):
Right And I'm going to dig down in that pretty soon.
Doctor be with what RK is saying too. But we
got some folks who want to talk to you. John
has called from Maryland. Online one grand Rich and John
are on with doctor B. Is John there still there? Online?

Speaker 9 (02:30:03):
One?

Speaker 2 (02:30:05):
I can't. Oh, go ahead, John, I'm.

Speaker 6 (02:30:07):
Sorry, I said Grand Rising. Brother Doctor B. And definitely
to you also, Brother Quacy. Brother Quacy, you had Guy
toy on last week, the comedian, and he was talking
about the number one thing that I think is a

(02:30:28):
problem that we're trying to ignore, and that was the
blood clocks. Every since people have taken that vaccine shot.
I'd like for you to speak to this, doctor B.
We have tried to hide the fact that people are
suffering from blood clocks, strokes and heart attacks. How do

(02:30:53):
you feel, doctor B about what Brother Quaycy just mentioned
because I was going to say it, what Kennedy is
doing by this war against the vaccines for our children,
the red dye, the floor ride, things that have been
long overdue to get rid of. Where do you stand

(02:31:17):
exit the politics of it? Because we don't love neither side?

Speaker 2 (02:31:24):
All right, thanks joll good question, doctor being There's a
lot of questions in that comment, so I'll let you
pick them out.

Speaker 4 (02:31:33):
I'm gonna be careful how I say this. We have
been having issues of the blood from way before the pandemic,
way before that. We are always looking for an enemy.
We like to point to a place, a person or thing,

(02:31:56):
or a people to say that's where the problem comes from.
We as a people of color have been having issues
in our blood, issues of the heart for a.

Speaker 10 (02:32:10):
Very long time.

Speaker 4 (02:32:12):
And now the fear of something that you know, we
don't even understand comes along and we always say, yeh see,
that's what it is, that's what's causing it. This is
for a very long time, and our people heart disease,
you know, super high blood pressure. Once I says super
high blood pressure, you know, we have to take care
of ourselves and if our body is strong, we don't

(02:32:33):
have to worry about what's in the air because we
are resilient people. We have the strongest self our you know,
our bodies have the power to resist or to protect
ourselves from almost anything if we eat right. We don't
want to talk about that. We want to get into
what that thing did. It came along and they made
us take it, and it.

Speaker 10 (02:32:53):
Was in the air, and it was man made.

Speaker 4 (02:32:55):
Lessen It's the food, it's the parasites. It's the chemicals
that you're using to clean your house and your clothes.
It's the plastics in your clothes. It's the stuff in
your pillow and in your mattress, the things that you're
using to clean your rug and your dishes. That's the
real problem. But we always want to point away from

(02:33:18):
us and talk about an enemy. But the enemy is
really went in. The enemy is in each of us.
It's what we do, it's our habit, it's the way
we live. I mean, what are you using? You know,
I went to a lady's house one day and you know,
she she asked me to do, you know, in home,
you know, a consultation, and I couldn't stay in the

(02:33:38):
house because she had those air fresheners. So lady, what
is this. Oh, I'm using a new ass freshness. You
just plug them in. I said, lady, that stuff is
killing it. I can't stay here. You probably don't have
roaches or nothing else up in here because that stuff
is toxic. So we want to point to somewhere else's
point to yourself. And that's why I'm doing this class

(02:33:59):
called the me Within, and everybody needs to be in
this free class. It's this Saturday. Actually, you know class
number two, Class number one was last week. It's online
on YouTube right now. The Enemy Within with doctor B
and we talk about this. The enemy is enough. We
keep talking.

Speaker 2 (02:34:15):
Yeah, we jumping here. And John's question about fluoride because
that's one of the things that RF case is. It
doesn't agree with the fluoride in the water. It is
floride good for us or not? Doctor B? Where do
you stand on fluoride?

Speaker 4 (02:34:27):
Florine is good? Floride is a toxin that comes from
the industry, from from from the when they make aluminum.
It's one of the most toxic chemicals there is. If
you study the history of floride, it will blow your mind.
It'll blow your mind. It is very toxic. And they

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knew and this is when it comes down to a
race thing. They knew what this would do to people
of color, indigenous people. They knew it would distort their
nervous systems. They knew it would create They even talk
about this as this a show, a documentary, what it
called the Great Culing Water, and they talk about any thing.
They knew. They studied that this would cause black people

(02:35:10):
to be more angry, more agitated, more depressed. They knew
Floor Ride to do this. So no, I'm not with
floor Ride at all.

Speaker 2 (02:35:19):
All right, And what about the injections for the children?
He says, You know, you don't have to take the shots,
and people saying we're going to see an increase in mesos,
moms and polio if not take the shots. See, do
you think our immune systems in this country now are
fortified enough that our children won't get those diseases.

Speaker 4 (02:35:40):
If you're going to eat a standard American diet, maybe
you should go take those shots, because you should. I
don't know, but I would say there's a natural version
of everything. If you eat right, if you eat minerals
that are you know, a prevalent in our soil. You know,
or not in our soil. But if you take mineral supplements,
if you take care of your body, that is your

(02:36:02):
natural vaccine. In fact, the word vaccine from what I hear,
comes from the word vascinum, the symom of the berries,
the dark berries like blueberries, billberries, you know, the darker
fruits of plums, and the apricots and things that are
here right now. That is like your vaccine. Even pumpkin
seeds are high in zinc. But the reason why they're

(02:36:25):
saying to take this vaccine is because most people are
eating within nature. People are eating outside of nature, so
people have become unnatural. You see, when you're eating correctly,
that's your vaccine, When you're breathing correctly. Your friendships, who
you're talking about, in what you're talking about, in who
you're being in self, you see a lot of people

(02:36:47):
are being the not self. You're not yourself because there's
so many chemicals, so much poison, even in what you're stating,
in what you're believing, in what you're looking at. Do
you know fear the most destructive thing for your immune system,
that's the most destructive thing for your body. Fear living in,
fear being fearful every day, being afraid of things that happen,

(02:37:11):
even happens, Yet you just keep hearing about it. And
told you on the news what was finding to happen?
Doctor me, you heard what was fenting to happen. And
you're sitting there living in fear with all these drugs
around you and all these chemicals, and the real problem
is in your cabinet. What is in your cabinet? What
are you eating?

Speaker 2 (02:37:30):
You see?

Speaker 4 (02:37:30):
So when we pick things that are actually destructive for us,
That's why I say number one, the number one enemy
is this parasite called toxoplasma. It's gonna make you become
poisonous to yourself. It's gonna make you choose things and
think about things and feel and purchase things that are
gonna be destructive for your system.

Speaker 2 (02:37:53):
Hold that thought right there, because fifteen after the top day,
I'll come a break. And we still got some more
folks want to talk to you. I got got a
bunch of tweets questions for you as well, doctor, But
let's go to Ruth in Baltimore. She asked a question
for you. She's online one grand rising Ruth. Here, I'm
with doctor b.

Speaker 8 (02:38:08):
Oh, Doctor b I keep hearing you give information about
where we can get your herbs.

Speaker 4 (02:38:16):
I hear the word elevation, and then I hear dot com.
I don't know what's in between.

Speaker 8 (02:38:22):
Will you speak clearly and let me know.

Speaker 4 (02:38:26):
Elevation time dot com time A I M E B
I M me. Elevation time dot com is where we can,
you know, get our products. And you'll see right on
the front page some of the offers, some of the programs,
and also the Elevated Total Body program. Oh good, thank
you so much.

Speaker 2 (02:38:47):
All right, thank you, ruth uh. The three questions for you,
doctor big greetings. Will you ask doctor B if there
are parasise that caused high blood pressure and stress.

Speaker 4 (02:38:58):
Parasites can cause almost every symptom you can think of,
because what they do is they agitate the system and
they put out toxins constantly, so their waste material is
what your body is absorbing. You see, they may not
cause the high blood pressure, but they will be putting
so many toxins in your system that your kidneys cannot

(02:39:19):
function correctly. And your kidneys are sensing the system right,
and if it sees that there's too many toxins, then
your kidneys begin to squeam down, and now your kidneys
can't filter as well. You see, your heart is not
gonna beat correctly if you've got things like you know,
there's this thing called the heart walms. Look up the heartwalms.
If you've got this other one this uh uh, what

(02:39:42):
is the name cryptosporidium? Did you know? Cryptosporidium is in
most water? And it's another one called yardi alambia. It's
in most water. And your little filter that most people
are using is not gonna take it out unless you
have a very big, special type of filter. So those
things are call your blood pressure to go up because

(02:40:02):
the body is sensing that the water that you're drinking
or the water that you're bathing in is toxic. So
the body squeezes down. The blood vessels begin to squeeze
down to try to take in less poison. Blood pressure
is a very special you know, the the pressure outside
yourselves and the pressure inside yourself has to be balanced.

(02:40:25):
The body's looking for homeostasis, is looking for balance. But
if you are doing things that are considered toxic, if
you're introducing things into your system that are poisoned or dangerous,
blood pressure goes up because you're supposed to run. This
is you know, your body says there's a problem, But
we don't run like we should when there's a problem,

(02:40:46):
because a lot of times the problem is something we're
doing every day. We're eating it at the table. We're
eating poison.

Speaker 2 (02:40:52):
So yes, man hold ups dot right there, Doctor ban,
We got to take a short break. I let you
finish your thought when we get back in Dell and
Baltimore has a question for you. Got some more tweets
for you eighteen minutes Santa Tompay our family, Doctor Bae
is a master herbalist and a metaphysician. Got a question
about either of those areas. Reach out to us at
eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six,
Can we take a phone calls next and grand rising family,

(02:41:13):
and thanks for joining us on this hump day. We're
halfway through the work week with our guest. There is
a metaphysician and also a master Herbalist's name is doctor Base.
Been doing this for quite some time, doctor be. Briefly,
can you tell us how you got started doing this?
What was it the because you were you were into music?

Speaker 4 (02:41:30):
Well, I stay, I still am in the in the music,
and uh, I produced music, and I was gonna mention this,
and it's interesting how you you just so intue to
Carl and I guess we've just been doing this for
so long that we're connected. But I got into this
because I was a music producer, very successful on the
West Coast and U and I realized that the business
of music was controlled by the prison industrial complex and

(02:41:53):
the chemical companies and also the liquor companies. So I
no longer could you know, was comfortable with, you know,
leading sheep to slaughter, selling people music with frequencies in
it that was causing them to be depressed or angry
or agitate people. And also the artists, taking the artists
and getting to sign these contracts where they basically they

(02:42:14):
signed their life away and they don't have any control.
So I actually created illness within myself, let's put it
that way. I became very sick and I had to stop.
I had to walk away from the music industry, and
I had to figure out how to heal myself. And
I studied and studied every book every night back then
with VHS tapes. I was in libraries, I was going

(02:42:36):
to lectures learning how could I help to heal myself
because the doctors basically said there was nothing they could do,
and I just didn't believe that because I didn't believe
they were ever telling this the truth about us. So
when I began to study the plants and the herbs
and the minerals and things that actually have been used
traditionally by our people, it changed everything. And that's how
I got into natural health and I moved away from

(02:42:58):
music industry. And then later you know, you, Carl, you
were a big part of this, you and brother Jamal
and even Stevie Wonder when you all had that front
page in LA and you know, y'all convinced me because
I wasn't into going public. I was not trying to
start a business of helping people this way. I wanted
to do it for free. And you guys asked me
to come on front page that one time. I think

(02:43:19):
that was nineteen ninety four, and that changed everything. And
I was really nervous on that show. So that's why
I was cracking jokes and doing the animal voices and
all that, because I didn't I was nervous because I
was I'm not a you know, by nature, I'm not
a public speaker, but that changed everything. But I've realized
also along the way, one of the things that causes
illness and people is the music. Did you know, Carl,

(02:43:44):
that if you put on that average commercial record, okay
it could be your favorite song, that the frequencies that
they're using in that song are actually causing your body
to go in fight or flight. Your organs are all
based on frenetquency or music. The whole universe is musical.
The trees, the birds, everything is putting out these musical sounds.

(02:44:07):
But our music, right, the modern day music since nineteen
fifty seven, they put frequencies in the music that causes
the people. First of all, caused them them to buy.
It causes them to consume and obey. It causes people
to be agitated. Even though you said this is a
love song, Well if you heard that love song and

(02:44:28):
the right frequencies, you know true love. Because today a
lot of folks don't know what love is. Just really
like a lot. They like them a lot, you don't
really love them because soon as there's drama, you're ready
to kill them and ready to you know, fight. So
this music actually is controlling people's minds. They've been doing
this for a long time. There's a thing called backwards masking,
where they have sounds and things that they say and

(02:44:51):
they put it in the song very low, so you
think it's an instrument, but it's actually music causing you
to do things. It's changed the state subconsciousness. It's mind
control in the music. Let me tell you, I know
because I was there. I was there when they were
giving me these scripts and telling me to put these
frequencies into music. When they weren't asking us, they were

(02:45:14):
telling us. So when we listen to a lot of music,
especially what we call commercial rap music today, and some
of the commercial rap music is it's not rap. Don't
think this is a racial thing. It's a lot of
the really commercial music has frequencies that causes you to
be other than your natural self. It also creates this
eve because your organs are listening to everything you everything

(02:45:38):
you hear is like you're eating through your ears. So
we need to take a break from some of this stuff.
And you know vwadays, even with some of these you know,
streaming systems, the artists don't make no money anyway. It's
just about mind control. So I learned that music right
herbs and things have frequencies. That's how I I'm an herbalist,
But I'm a metaphysical rbalist. When I understand and the

(02:46:00):
frequencies and the sounds of plants and there's and also
other substances that make sound. My ear is very keen.
So what I'm doing is I'm matching things in nature
with the nature of natural people. So the way I
look at herbalism, it's totally different than the average persons
you see. But I think my thing is is to
create music within the organs, create harmony in the system.

(02:46:24):
And you know, a lot of the things that they
tell us to do that are supposed to do that
don't do it. Who's telling us? Most of the research
and stuff is done by the people that you call
the enemy. But you've got to look at the enemy within,
the enemy within you. What are you choosing, what are
you choosing to eat? What conversations are you choosing to have?
What are you watching on the tail lie visions? What

(02:46:45):
friends do you have? Why do you have these friends?
Are they truly your friends? All those things they tie
into what we call holistic health. And then what we
got to get into is the telomeres because you know
there's a very special connection between telemes talking paradises in
the season.

Speaker 2 (02:47:04):
Right and hold I thought right there, because we've got
one of our calls online wants you to talk about that.
But before we get to her, let's go to Della
in Baltimore has a question for She's online three at
twenty seven after the top Della Grand Rising, You're on
with doctor B.

Speaker 8 (02:47:17):
Good Grand Rising, mister call and God Grand Rising.

Speaker 11 (02:47:21):
Doctor B.

Speaker 8 (02:47:22):
You know, it's so fascinating. Your show is so fascinating
because I call for one thing and then he.

Speaker 6 (02:47:26):
Started talk about music.

Speaker 8 (02:47:27):
It turned my whole mind around about music. But anyway,
I want to know his opinion about the ivy injections
that can sometimes recommend to help you. And I was
wondering how much can he give me some idea of
what do you feel about ivy injections that have a
cocktail that might be able to help you. Do you

(02:47:48):
know anything about that? And can you give me some
advice about that? I'm not sure if I'm getting I
can't give you the whole thing because I don't want to.

Speaker 15 (02:47:57):
Compromise.

Speaker 8 (02:47:58):
You know where I'm getting the source from. And also
just real quick, I wanted to say, I am so
fascinated that you were talking about music. Someone just recently
brought to my attention about Lucifer in the Bible and
how he was connected to music and everything that you
said about music. I agree with you because I've experienced
that that type of sensation from music when I'm driving

(02:48:21):
or when I'm listening to music. But thank you, That's
mainly what I want to talk about. But when you
talked about music, I love music and I sing a lot.

Speaker 11 (02:48:27):
That really brought my.

Speaker 8 (02:48:28):
Attention to what you were talking about in reference to music.
And I'll stop and see if you can understand what
I'm asking you about.

Speaker 2 (02:48:35):
Okay, thanks, BELLI doctor bank.

Speaker 4 (02:48:37):
Music real quick. There are frequency that you that you
tune your music to that causes love and harmony. And
almost everybody that started doing this commercially was taken out.
Prince Michael Jackson, even the first Earth Wind and Fire records,
they were tuned to these special frequencies. The old blues artists,
the people who were more connected to the earth in healing,

(02:49:01):
Jimmy Hendrix, Bob Marley. You think they were taken out
for one thing, but what it was was they started
tuning music to the sacred frequencies. So I started making
music tunes to those frequencies, and I call it medicine music.
So if you go to my website elevationtime dot com
elevationtime dot com, I have a project and it's like
hours and hours of this medicine music that actually assumes

(02:49:23):
you and takes you on a journey so that your
body can heal. Now, what was the other question that
you had?

Speaker 2 (02:49:29):
Now she's gone, but she was talking about ivs.

Speaker 5 (02:49:32):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (02:49:33):
Yeah, the hydration drips. The hydration drips, depending on who
you're getting in from, are good because that's like putting
vitamin feet directly into the veins.

Speaker 1 (02:49:41):
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:49:42):
They also have magnesium. Like she mentioned the cocktail, they
have this one which has all the nutrients that the
body needs and it's directly into the vein so it
doesn't have to go through digestion. Every once in a while,
like around this time of year, you know, I might
get a hydration drip to they're available now all across
the country, so it's actually putting nutrients directly into the vein.

(02:50:04):
And these are usual. This is part of holistic medicine.
So you got to find somebody that has the natural
version of it, because there are some chemical versions of
it or someone you know, manufactured versions of it that
are not the best for the body. But hydration drip
they're really good. And they even got they'll come to
your house and everything like that. You know, there's mobile
you know, if you're in a major city, they'll come
to your house or to your job. And it takes

(02:50:26):
like twenty thirty minutes. And it's you know, to get
it directly because I digestive practice slow. You're going through
that channel. This is putting those nutrients directly into the vein.

Speaker 2 (02:50:37):
Gotcha. Thirty minutes at the top there on Nadine's next
calling from Silver Spring right here outside of studios in
Maryland online one, Grand Rising, Nadine, your question for doctor B.

Speaker 16 (02:50:47):
Grand Rising, call and Grand Rising, Doctor B. I heard
you mentioned telomeres earlier in the programs, and I would
like for you to please explain what they are and
how we can maintain the integrity of our telomeres. And
I'll listen.

Speaker 4 (02:51:07):
Telomeres are the protective caps at the ends of our chromosomes,
and they look like strings. Okay, these strings at the
ends of the chromosomes are like little antennas, and these
little intennas are sending and picking up information all the time.
He said. I think that's why they call them telomeres,
because they're like little telephone intennas, and these the length

(02:51:29):
of them has a lot to do with how healthy
you are and how quickly you aange at age. When
these telomeres, these little strings begin to shorten or degrade,
you begin to age and your cells cannot replicate and
repair themselves as quickly. So there are things that actually

(02:51:49):
add to the accelerated telomere loss. So that stress is
number one. Stress is huge. If you're stressed out, these
telomeres begin to shorten. Around your telomeres right is a cap.
It's called the telomere cap. So it's just like the

(02:52:09):
shoelace cap. You know at the end of your shoelace.
There's a little plastic cap that holds the shoelace together
so it doesn't frey off. The same thing is happening
on our telomeres. The telomere cap is holding those those
those telomere strings together so they don't fray off. But
what happens is this, through stress, we start creating too

(02:52:30):
much of an enzyme called telomerase. Telomerase eats away the
telomere cap too quickly if you have too much of it,
if you have too much stress and you're focusing too
much on fear and you're eating foods that are inferior.
If you're eating foods that are eating you, and you
have certain types of parasites in your system that are

(02:52:51):
emitting these enzyme, your telomeres begin to shorten. And when
these telomeres shortened, you don't heal as quickly. Your cells
can't replicate. Cells are supposed to go naturally through what
we call apoptosis. So this means that a cell is
strong and it's resilient when it's healthy. When a cell

(02:53:12):
becomes old, when a cell becomes weakened, it's supposed to
go through a natural cell death called apoptosis. This is
very important. The telomeres right when they are healthy. They
make sure that that cell is here only when it's powerful,
when it's useful, when it's at its prime. The body's

(02:53:34):
supposed to get rid of that cell and put a
new cell in its place. When you're you know when
that cell is done. If your telomeres are not receiving
the right information, if your telomeres. You're these little telephones
and these little antennas are not the right size. Then
the body gets confused. Do you know that one of
the symptoms of cancer is you have cells in your
body that are not working correctly that your body did

(02:53:57):
not get rid of. This may have a lot to
do with the telomere caps being broken or being you know,
eroded away. What are some of the things that you
know can cause your your telomeres to get short. Chronic inflammation,
oxidative stress, immune cell exhaustion, nutrient depleted food, and like

(02:54:22):
I say, stress and frequency. Because these these these these
shorter telomeres, they contribute to aging and age related diseases.
We're not supposed to be done at eighty. We're supposed
to be able to live at least to what they
call centurions. So you go to the blue zones and
you find people living into their hundreds or into the hundred,

(02:54:46):
you know, or more, and they're these blue zones and
places where the food is nutrient dense, the water is clean.
And one thing that's really important in the blue zone
it's the social networks. People support each other. They're not
fight and arguing and pointing the finger. They're not listening
to this music that's eroding the mind and believing in

(02:55:06):
everything they hear in the news. They're a community of
people that are coming together in oneness and supporting each other.
Those people live long into the hundreds. And the blue
zones they talk about, they talk about the five or
seven blue zones. They usually you know, the ones where
the Caucasians are. I'm telling you there's blue zones all
over the world where people that are brown and tan

(02:55:27):
and black and blue black where we are. It's just
they're not gonna mention that we're supposed to live into
our one hundreds. But parasites connect to telomeres because the
parasites they weaken the immune system. They put your body
in sight or flight. Your body is trying to fight
these parasites twenty four to seven. It's the war going on.

(02:55:48):
So the telomeres get the message of look, this is
this is this is not We're not gonna win this.
So the telomeres begin to break off and they begin
to fray, and those short telomeres, they reduce your life force, energy,
your vital forces. You begin to die too soon, you see.
So what we're calling old age is not really old

(02:56:10):
age that used to be middle aged for us, but
because of the standard American diet, the standard the American
way of thinking, the standard Black idea about the world.
You know, we have a black perspective that we are
always you know, we say black people always, and we
have these things and these means that we repeat that
are not necessarily true unless you believe it, because we
could change everything. So when you have when you begin

(02:56:33):
to have optimized thinking, and when you begin to realize
real true love and have powerful conversations, Kyle, you know,
most of the conversations that we have are about the problem,
the problem, the problem, the problem. How often do you
hear people walk in talking about the solutions. If you're
talking about the problem eighty percent of the time and

(02:56:54):
maybe only ten percent of the time you're talking about solutions,
you're dying. The body says, this is not good, it's
nothing problems. When you begin to talk about solutions eighty
percent of the time and only talk about the problems
maybe twenty percent of the time, everything changes in your
body because the music of the cell, the music of
the organs that changes your body is a musical instrument.

(02:57:16):
What instrument are you playing in the orchestra. Would you
want to play your body sound in an orchestra? If
you could listen to what you're how you're thinking, and
how you're living. You gotta find out what you can
eat that's gonna make you healthy.

Speaker 2 (02:57:30):
Right and hold I thought right there, Doctor Baby, gotta
take our last break when we come back. A call
it call in the studio wants to know the pros
and cons of looking into the sun to find them
in ded what are your thoughts? And also once you
talk about floaters, another question a question came in on floaters?
What are they? Can we get rid of them? Those
are the stuff that's in your eyes? Family, two can
join our conversation with doctor B. He's a metaphysician and

(02:57:52):
a master herbalist. Hit us up at eight hundred and
four or five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll
take your phone calls next and grand rising family, thanks
sticking with us on this hump day. That means we're
halfway through the work week with doctor B. Nineteen minutes
away from the top of Doctor B is a master
herbalist and also a metaphysician. Before we go back to him,
the doullness reminds you. Coming up tomorrow, we're going to
speak with the University of Houston's Africana Studies that head

(02:58:16):
doctor Gerald Horn. Also a Memphis City council person, a councilwoman,
I just call it Rayay Pearl Walker's going to join us.
She's going to talk about the fact that Donald Trump
is threatening to send troops into Memphis. We're going to
hear what she says about that. So if you're in Baltimore,
make sure your radio is locked in tight on ten
ten WLB, or if you're in the DMV, run FM
ninety five point nine and AM fourteen fifty WL. All right,

(02:58:38):
Doctor B. Two questions a caller called in one another
pros and conspt looking into the sun if that can
help with vitamin D. And another tweeter came in about
floaters that those of the stuff in your eyes, and
you know what they are are they parasites? So I
think you respond to both those, and we've got some
more tweets her. She we're getting shot up on the answers.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (02:58:56):
There's a lot of research search that shows that looking
into the sun, especially when the sun first rises and
at sundown is very healthy for your body because it
begins to stimulate the glands in your head, especially the
pineal the pituitary, and it helps to regulate your system
because that light coming in is the vitamin D that

(02:59:19):
our bodies need. Without vitamin D, the body cannot regulate
its immune complexes. Who needs high amounts of vitamin D.
In fact, this is the time of the year when
folks start using vitamin D supplements, but you can also
use things like sunflower seeds and hemp seeds and things
like that. Also, coconut oil has some of the things

(02:59:39):
that can actually help to boost our immune system at
this time of year. You know, by eating raw coconut
oil and rubbing raw coconut oil on your sun i mean,
on your body while you're in the sun, can help
to pull more vitamin D from the environment. You see
now floaters, there's a couple types of floaters. If the
little round ball, that's just the breed that happens to

(03:00:02):
be in the fluid of the eye. But research is
now saying that those little worms that you're seeing are
parasites that are actually throughout your whole system. Yeah, you
hear what I said. Worms somebody just said, well, wait, worms, Yeah,
they're worms. If you look at them, those floaters, most
of them are navigating. They're actually you know, you'll move

(03:00:23):
around and swim. If you look closely, you can even
see the tail and the heads. Those are parasites in
your eye. If you've got parasites in your eye, then
they're throughout your body. And I want to know how
these these herbs that folks are using for their parasites
in their digestive tract are going to affect the ones

(03:00:44):
in your eye, because the ones in your eye are systemic,
like the ones in your kidneys. You're liver, your spleen,
and all of your organs. Those are systemic parasites. So
it takes about twenty eight days to reduce the level
of those parasites in your body. Why twenty eight days,
because that's their feeding cycle, they're eating cycle. They're living
based on the bi rhythms of you. They live beside you.

(03:01:09):
It's like they're like your shadow. So a lot of
folks say, well, you know I eat really good. Well,
them parasites they're eating good too. To eat what you eat,
So there has to be a specialized program over a
twenty eight day period where you increase the herbs slowly
over time. And you you know, in the program that
we created, we realize that there's certain things that you

(03:01:30):
have to put in the body each week. It has
to be graduated, it has to be measured. It's based
on rhythm, it's based on sound, and we even do
put sound frequency, frequency, musical frequencies into the herbal substance
or into the elixers. So, yes, floaters, is that's a
that's letting you know you've got parasites to let.

Speaker 2 (03:01:51):
Your whole by Hi fifteen away from the top of tweet.
Question for you treat says ground Rising. I've recently heard
the modern American corn. It's not healthy for us. It's corn,
a fall vegetable. And is it now time to eat corn?
And does today's corn fresh off the cob provide a
healthy food for the body?

Speaker 4 (03:02:10):
Number One, you don't eat corn. You just chew corn.
You can't digest it. Yeah, I mean, you see it's
in the toilet hole. You know what I'm saying. The corn,
there's modern day corn is not the best for us.

Speaker 5 (03:02:24):
But if you're going to.

Speaker 4 (03:02:25):
Eat it, just realize that you're not getting as much
nutrients as you think. It just makes you feel full,
you see. And the modern day corn they use a
lot of chemicals like this atrozine. Look up the chemical atrazine.
I'm not gonna talk about this because it comes to
be this subject is real controversial. But there's a black
man who discovered what atrozine was doing to the sexes

(03:02:48):
of frogs and animals and insects that lived in the
area where they sprayed atrazine on the corn. I can't
touch that right now because it gets weird. It's a
hot topic, but there's a all.

Speaker 2 (03:03:00):
Right, let me let me move on because I want
to talk about what your event you're having this weekend too.
But before I do that, UH got to saw a
report that fatty foods can cause it because can scramble
your memory and just days, just days after eating a
lot of fatty food.

Speaker 8 (03:03:14):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (03:03:14):
There's so many truth to that because that's it's a
major part of many of our diets.

Speaker 4 (03:03:20):
Depends on what kind of fatty foods we're talking about,
because the body needs fat. The brain needs more fat
or cholesterol than any other part of the bottom. So
it's the type of fat. There's healthy fats and foods,
you know, healthy fast in coconut oil, you know, and
there is you know, it's the I think what people
are trying to say is the animal products that are

(03:03:42):
cooked in grease, and some of that grease is non digestible,
and a lot of it's people cooked with canola oil,
which is one of the most toxic you know oils
there is, you know, But if you're eating a lot
of animal products, then that's going to clog up the
eyelets of the pancreas. Yeah, a lot of folks have
pancreatic disease or they have what we call diabetes because

(03:04:04):
of meat in the type of meat they're eating. So
we should figure out what type of natural meats to
eat now. And they're gonna be wild mostly, they're not
gonna be domesticated food. So this domesticated foods is the problem.

Speaker 2 (03:04:18):
Gotcha. I'm searching away from the top of the our.
Aaron's checking in from Baltimore with a question for you,
doctor B. Aaron Grand Rising around with doctor B. Turn
your radio down because we're on a delay system here.
Listen through the phone, but go ahead your question for
doctor B.

Speaker 17 (03:04:35):
Okay, good morning, I mean Grand Rising. A lot of
Black people eat white bread, and white bread is made
some flour that has been bleached. Uh, And I want
to know if white bread healthy or nutritionous for eating.

Speaker 4 (03:04:54):
No, I wouldn't touch any type of white bread. Anything
that's been bleached dion has been refined like that, so
I would stay away from that. In fact, I eat
breads that will be from natural you know natural. They
have a lot of breads now made from other grains
other than week week very question.

Speaker 2 (03:05:16):
All right, We're gonna let eron go because she's got
a radio plan in the background and it's a distraction,
Aaron when you call in the radio stations, turn your
radio off because we're on a delay system. But I
thank you for your call. Twelve away from the top,
there are doctor B. Doctor B, you're having a class
called the Enemy Within. Can you tell us AB what
that is all about? And Kevin, can you hang up
on line one first because we're getting the feedback here.

(03:05:36):
Thank you, doctor B. The Enemy Within? Can you tell
us right about that? Kevin? Can you hang up on
line one first? Please? Where's Kevin?

Speaker 4 (03:05:50):
There?

Speaker 6 (03:05:50):
We go?

Speaker 2 (03:05:50):
Thank you, doctor B.

Speaker 4 (03:05:53):
The enemy with that, we're having a class this Saturday
called the Enemy Within. And it talks about parasites from
a whole, whole, another, you know, perspective. And we had
class one last week and that one is still online
on YouTube. But the Enemy within UH is about parasites
and it says four part class there will be all
for the rest of this month where we're talking about

(03:06:14):
parasites from a totally different perspective. And the problem is
inside us. It's not just the parasites, but it's the chemicals,
the foods, and a lot of the things we use
in our household household household products. So we're gonna get
into that real deep. But you know, you know this
subject that we're talking about today, which has to do
with the connection between telomeres, toxins, parasites and the season.

(03:06:36):
I'm gonna have a live tomorrow night, a free live,
you know, at tomorrow at seven pm Eastern Standard time
on YouTube. So you can go to doctor B Serious
doct D O C P A H the letter B
and Serious S I R I U S and you
can go to my YouTube, or you can just go
to elevation time dot com and you'll see with the

(03:07:00):
free live is going to be happening tomorrow at seven
pm I'm going to get deeper into this subject. But
also make sure you come to the class on Saturday.
It is free at eleven a m. Eastern Standard time.
That is also posted at elevation time dot com. And
we're going to get deep into this class about parasites

(03:07:22):
so we can break this spell. And this is the
time to do it because everything is changing right now
and fall is the best time to detox your body.

Speaker 2 (03:07:32):
Right And you know what, doctor, but you didn't tell
us about your work with Dick Gregory because you did
a lot of work with.

Speaker 4 (03:07:37):
Greg Well, you know, Dick Gregory called me around. I
met Dick Gregory around the time when he had limphoma.
So I was one of the people that came in
that he brought in as a specialist to help him.
And we, you know, we we we got a great kinship.
You know, he taught me a lot about metaphysics. We
never talked about civil rights. We talked about the body.

(03:07:57):
We talked about the people. And you know, he's a
people uncivilized so you know, you can't give an uncivilized
person rights. We got to get them civilized. We got
to get them healthy. So we talked a lot about
health and we created a product that helps it helps
rebuild the telomeres and it's called the h.

Speaker 5 (03:08:13):
What is it called.

Speaker 4 (03:08:15):
I can't remember the name of it. It's crazy, just
it's called Platinum Life Elixir. The Platinum Life Elixir Gregory
Reserve was a product that we created along with some
of the suggestions from Dick Gregory that helps to strengthen
the telomere cap helped us live longer, and it also
helps to detoxify the body from heavy metals. It also

(03:08:37):
one of the special things it does is it tunes
up the pineal gland so that we can have stronger intuition.
And this was one of the things in the last
maybe five years when Dick Gregory was here that he
would take before he do lectures and workshops. He would
cause this doctor be I need that platinum. I need
that platinum. So we ended up calling it Platinum Life
Elixir Gregory Reserve, and it's at elevation time dot Com.

(03:09:00):
It's amazing for people who would like to expand their
minds get rid of their heavy metals, and also if
people who would like to get into this anti aging thing.
We're aging our bodies based on what we think and
what we feel. But also it has to do with telomeres.
When we strengthen our telomeres, we strengthen our bodies, and
we also have to get rid of parasites at the
same time, because here you did testing, testing, custing.

Speaker 3 (03:09:40):
So doctor B, we need you to continue having a
technical issue with Carl Nelson right now, wrap up. Tell
us where we can reach you, how people can contact
you at elevation Time Okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (03:09:53):
Elevationtime dot com is the website elevation time dot com.
You can follow me on all platforms OKTA B serious,
d O C T A H the letter B serious,
S I R I U S, or you can simply
go to elevationtime dot com. On Saturday, we're having the

(03:10:13):
free class the Enemy Within that starts at eleven a m.
Eastern Standard time, and tomorrow night at seven pm Eastern
Standard time, I'm going to have a continuation of this
conversation about the connection between telemeres, toxins, parasites, and the seasons.
So this is doctor B Serious, Elevationtime dot Com. Thank

(03:10:34):
you very much, Carl, thank you for all of your listeners.
And let's do better, Let's live better, Let's elevate our lives,
and let's stop looking for the enemy outside. The real
true enemy is the enemy within. When we conquer that,
that's what our whole lives will change. And this is
the time to do it right now. Never mind what
they're telling you. You've got to tell yourself, and you've

(03:10:57):
got to repair your telomeres and begin to talk to
your true self, your original self, and get rid of
the self that's not our true selves. It's about being real,
being relevant, and being honest and open with ourselves, and
stop looking outward for problems and begin to handle the
issues that we have inward with each of us individually.

(03:11:20):
It's about unveiling the truth and outwitting the devil. So
let's do it. The enemy within the class. We have
a class Number one was up last week. You can
find it on YouTube. Class two. It's going to be
this Saturday at eleven am Eastern Standard time, and it's

(03:11:41):
going to be a class every week for the rest
of October. Much love to you all. Thank you very much,
Kyl and staff and everybody else out there who is
ready to change the world by changing ourselves. Thank you
very much.

Speaker 3 (03:11:54):
Well, we certainly thank you doctor B for all of
your years of service, your research, your study, and this
has been mind blowing today. You really filled us with
all sorts of information. We look forward to talking to
you again and sometimes be blessed my brother travel light.

Speaker 4 (03:12:10):
We don't need all that luggage a lot of it's
nineven hours. Let's go, all right.

Speaker 3 (03:12:14):
That concludes another episode of the Carl Nelson Show, and
on behalf of Carl Im Kevin Langfort. Remember just to
walk in the light, make it a great day, and
we'll see you tomorrow right here on WL fourteen fifty
and ninety five point nine FL
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