Doctah B on Winter Solstice & Healing, Brother Shujaa on Kwanzaa, & Charles Barron on Sahel Nations

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And Grand Rising family, and welcome to Wednesday. Thanks for
checking in with us again. Later, metaphysician and master herbalist
Doctor B will take over our classroom. Doctor B will
explain the significance of Sunday's went to Solstice and also
discuss his latest book, What's Eating You? That's the time
of the book. Before we hear from doctor B, brother
Suja I will highlight the importance of celebrating Kwanza, and momentarily,

(00:23):
former New York lawmaker Charles Brown will join us. But
first let's get Kevin to open these classroom doors this
Wednesday morning, Grand Rising, Kevin.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Hey, Grand Rising, indeed, Carl Nelson, Man, it's wonderful Wednesday
and seventeenth of December as the year is quickly coming
to a close. How you feeling, Carl Nelson?

Speaker 1 (00:44):
I'm still learning, Kevin, I'm still learning, bro. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Keep it consistent, be consistent, and then of course you'll
be able to share that knowledge with your multitude of fans.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Fan I hope not not fans. They are listeners. Fancy
show up for fanatic so that is yeah, okay, well
I don't know how I think the listeners are more
than fanatic, you know, fanatical, you see.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Okay, Well, then, having said that, we're going to make
sure that everybody here again gets a chance to learn
today from all kinds of information that we're sharing today.
But let's start with Marjorie Taylor Green. She's warning that
the damn is breaking in the GLP and slams Trump

(01:42):
for being toned deaf on multiple issues. So Tuesday, she
said that the comments that the President made on the
murders of Rob and Michelle Ryner, as she predicted more
Republicans will follow her lead and breaking away from Trump.
She says, quote, I thought that statement was absolutely completely

(02:02):
below the office of the President of the United States,
class less than it was just wrong. And she told
that to Caitlyn Collins from CNN the source. What do
you think? Is she right?

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Is he you know she's right? But he said a
lot of stuff is classless? Why this? You know? I
know this is I guess. Rob Ryan was a favorite
for a lot of folks across the political landscape, so
when Trump said something negative about his death, they found
that upsetting. But Trump said worse stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
You know, he said, you can say words about, you know,
a person who is just just murdered, and you know,
both both throats were cut, and and you know, he
blames that on his point of view, on his political
opposition to Donald Trump, and he says that he brought

(02:55):
it upon himself. I don't know if he said anything.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
You know, he said stuff about our folks, you know,
s old countries, Haitians. He didn't, you know it can
it can echoed that thought. He's done a lot worse.
But the trouble is it was about black people. So
you know, white folks now upset because he's he attacked
one of them. But yeah, he said a lot of
greatious stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
But go ahead, okay, Well, according to Politico in other news,
the judge lets Trump's ballroom construction proceed and after he
has you know, smashed the east wing. A federal judge
yesterday turned down to the preservationists request to halt President
Donald Trump's three hundred million dollar White House ballroom project,

(03:41):
concluding that allowing below ground construction to continue in the
coming weeks was unlikely to produce irreparable harm to those
opposed to the plan. So it sounds like he's saying,
go ahead and fix the underground part. But we're still
holding out A US District judge Richard Leon denied the

(04:02):
National Trust for Historic Preservation's request for a temporary restraining order,
but said he would hear the arguments earlier next year
about whether to issue a longer term preliminary injunction against
the project.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Your thoughts on that first, So Chorge's trying to plan
it both ways. He's trying to you know, you know,
thread the needle and not upset Donald Trump. And also
he's got he's keeping to his legal what he has
to through legally, and too Trump the Trump administration. By
the way, Kevin says the ballroom, the constructs a matter
of national security. So this is what they're saying now,

(04:40):
all of a sudden, he's building, extending, well building, because
he wasn't extending, was sending upon the White House and
say it's a matter of national security.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Oh yeah, and he says, and to go along with that,
he says that because the project involves the White House, uh,
it doesn't require approval other than his own. And a
lawyer for the National Trust, Ted Hearer, called that assessment
woefully inadequate.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
He also noted that.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
The real world project has already departed in significant ways
from the plans submitted to the Park Service. The East
wing Colonnade, for example, was visibly raised in October despite
the planning documentsy and the feature was to be renovated.
So's this is far from a renovation they're calling.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Right, and thank god, let me jump into And the
guy who rigually was signed on to do the project,
he clashed with Donald Trump and he walked off the
job and say, you know, I'm not going to do this.
I'm not going to sign my name today. So we
got somebody else. As he usually does, he will do
his bidding.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
But ah, wow, well, so much was putting his name
in history, hunh by reconstructing the White House. And look,
Vanity Fair writer fires back at Trump administration over claims
of Susie Wiles hit piece everything, and she says everything

(06:04):
is on tape. It's called a hit piece because while
writing the Unprecedented Interview, journalist Chris Whipple met with White
House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles eleven times over eleven months,
and Wiles is one of the most important people in
Trump's orbit and is widely credited with playing a key

(06:25):
part in masterminding his return to the White House. So
in this piece, Wiles says that Trump has an alcoholics personality.
She claimed that JD. Vance was a conspiracy theorist and
suggested that Elon Musk was an avowed ctamine user. So,

(06:46):
although she's claimed that the context of her claims have
been disregarded, she says, all of that is on tape.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
All right, and you know the drug US response, She said,
you may know that her father was Pat Summer Al
the CBS NFL announcer. Oh yeah, yeah, and and and
she looks kind of looks like him too. That's where
the alcohol olic park comes in, because you know, Donald
Trump respond way, everybody knows I don't drink, I don't
take alcohol. But that's not what she said. She says,
his personality is like that, and I guess it reminded

(07:15):
of her dad, Pat Somemer. All but interesting, all those
things are true what she said, and she did say them,
but Donald Trump came say, oh, just he brushed it aside.
It's no big deal. You know, he's still supporting her,
So that's probably why he's having this this this news
briefment or whatever it is tonight.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Oh I see. And she she also goes on to
say it really reminds me of the Watergate days when
Ben Bradley talked about non denial denial. So this is
the ultimate non denial denial. And so you're saying, he's
got a press conference tonight, and oh, I was looking

(07:55):
at the reparations thing.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Nine o'clock tonight. He's gonna be on TV nine o'clock
and he's gonna tell the country that everything's good. The economy.
It may be a little gray right now, but with
sunny days are coming in January, you'll all, you know,
you'll get through your Christmas holiday. May have it might
bite a little bit, but it might just pinch you
a little bit. But but after Chap everything's gonna fall
into place. Everything's gonna be great. That's probably what he's

(08:20):
gonna say. But you want to talk about reparations, right I.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Wanted to talk about Yes, Maryland is working on reparations
for slavery and racial discrimination, with the General Assembly recently
overriding Governor Westmore's veto to establish a statewide Maryland Reparations
Commissions with studying historical harms and recommending benefits like cash,

(08:45):
education aid or housing assistant for descendants. Following local efforts
in cities like Green Belt and Prince George's County.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Well that's more than.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
A city, that's the that's several cities to address these
deep seated and justice.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, go ahead. At the time, he claimed, Kevin that
we've done enough studies of the legacy of slavery and
know it's now time to focus on the work itself.
Let's get busy, That's what he was saying. But obviously
the legislative Black Caucus of Maryland didn't buy that, and
both had chambers about housing. The chambers overrodeed what he
did and says, yeah, let's study reparations, because they were

(09:21):
getting calls from their constituency people they represent, and they
decided to when they voted on it, they overroted, So
they are going to study reparations.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
Well, yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
The twenty three member commission is being assigned to develop
programs for descendants of the enslaved and those harmed by
discriminatory discriminatory rather policies from eighteen seventy seven to nineteen
sixty five, and this will assess past policies, define eligibility criteria,

(09:54):
and propose compensatory benefits with reports do in twenty twenty seven,
cities like once Again, cities like Green Belt, and counties
like Prince Jersey's County already have their own reparations commissions
or resolutions showing local momentum. Now what this commission is
going to do, and like I said, study the lasting

(10:16):
impact of slavery and discriminatory government actions, recommend specific benefits,
including monetary compensation. I think this thing is getting a
little repetitive. And then momentum grew after the murder of
George Floyd. Advocates, including the ACLU of Maryland, push for
some systemic repair beyond symbolic gestures.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
So you know what, let's ask you. I guessed about
that Charles Brown, because I know he's spoken about that before,
because now you know, Governor Mars says he's willing to
work with it with the panel and let's move forward.
And you know, because she got a lot of heat.
He's the only black governor in the country and he
doesn't support reparations. Reparations sort of a litmus test for
any politician on any level. And he's with the highest

(10:59):
one of the high ranking elected officials with a tination
Black state, almost called mayor on the Black state. But
a lot of the representatives who a lot of the
lawmakers in Maryland are black, and he's went against what
they wanted.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
So we've got Counselor Jarles Baron standing behind. What say you,
Counselor Baron.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Welcome morning and grand rising. As you guys would say,
I say, let's put this whole reparations movement in a
proper context, and I'll give my particulars on that. But
you know, we're finding for reparations in many states across
the country. But just bear in mind, that's no substitute

(11:41):
for liberation, because reparations without liberations from this colonial capitalist
economy and state, and liberation from our domestic colonies. Whatever
we get, if we get it, it would be given
to us under the context of us still being on
American plantation. So liberation is what we really should be

(12:05):
focusing on liberation from the colonial capitalist system, radically changing
the system, or in the meantime at least getting power
to get what we need in our communities to bring
about that change. Now, on reparations, remember what happened in California.
They had the Reparations Commission put in place, they did

(12:30):
their work, they got the demands and the recommendations, and
the governor, who's supposed to be so progressive, said, no,
we just don't have the money. We ain't giving you anything.
Then in some other states, and I don't want to
take away from any of the work that people are doing.
We have another state that said we got reparations. We

(12:52):
got ten million dollars for scholarships and money for land
to get some for housing. And then we have this discussion.
We're talking about another study. And then in New York,
I had the bill, a reparations bill that would have
given the power to the local or the communities that

(13:16):
have been dealing with or the organizations that's been dealing
with reparations. But like forty years, you know in Cobra
and Ron Daniels in the Institute of the Black World,
the December twelfth Movement, they would have picked the commission,
but they changed my bill. After I left and went
to the city council, they changed my bill and then

(13:40):
said the governor and the state legislature will pick the commission. Now,
this commission has been basically defunct and been having hearings
for a year or so. They were supposed to give
us a report this past summer to determine what the
reparation should look like. They gave us nothing, as the

(14:00):
politicians that appointed the people decided that next year twenty
twenty six is an election year. They don't want a
reparations report out there. The governor don't want one out there,
not signed and not supported, so they're going to delay
all their work to twenty twenty seven. Beware of these
reparations movements, and beware of claims that we're receiving reparations.

(14:24):
We must make a great distinction between what we're supposed
to get from budgets in each state based upon us
being tax paying citizens of that state, residence of that state.
So if you give me money for scholarships that I'm

(14:45):
supposed to get because you've been discriminated against us and
we're paying taxes. Even if you give me healthcare, I'm
supposed to get that, or some land to develop, I'm
supposed to get that. So we have to get that
out of the budget at taxpayers, and then pay reparations,

(15:07):
which is a debt ode for slavery, a debt ode
for Jim crowism, and then commute commute that some people
say six billion, six tillion, some people say more and
then commute that, compute that, and then say this is
how we will pay you for the next ten years.
Perhaps you shouldn't have to pay any taxes, no taxation

(15:29):
without reparation, we should say, or perhaps we should get land,
or on more healthcare, more education. So beware of the
cooperation of these reparations movement and making a peer as
though it's some liberation. I heard one movement say that
everybody should get fifty thousand dollars. Another movement said, oh,

(15:50):
black people should get a million dollars. And let's say
we succeed in getting a million dollars for black people
in America. Remember we're still on the plant, We're still
going to probably a lot of that money will go
right back to the very government of capitalism. So I'm
not saying don't do it. I'm saying, let's fight for it,

(16:10):
but keep it in its proper perspective and continue our
fight for complete and total liberation from an exploitative, colonial
capitalist system. And it's racist ideology that permeates every institution
in America and pollute the minds of millions of Americans.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
All right, well, that's the right there, Charles Brown family,
just checking in Our guest is Charles Brown, former New
York lawmaker. We're talking about reparations when we come back, though,
it's going to give us an update on the shale nations.
You want to join this conversation this morning, reach out
to us at eight hundred four to five zero seventy
eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls next
and Grand Rising family. Thanks for waking up with us

(16:50):
on this home days twenty two minutes after the time
of there with a guest Charles Barron. Charles is former
New York City lawmaker and Charlso is give us an
update on the shale nations mentioned earlier in a conversation
with chelse We. I don't hear anything of what's coming
down with Sahale nations. But on Tuesday, Donald Trump issued
a travel ban or extended his travel ban to include

(17:11):
the Palestinians, also five Oland countries in Bikino, Fossor Mali
and this year the Sahal Nations and also South Sudan
and Syria. So your thoughts about the travel ban, Charles.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
Barren, Well, you know Donald Trump can do travel bans
all he wants. Remember these the hell Nations are also
part of bricks the Brazil, Russian, India, China, and South
African Coalition of States, and that has increased to like

(17:43):
twenty states now ten member states and ten support of states,
and many of the these the health states are part
of that. So even though this travel ban may happen,
and they are landlocked states, so they're under a lot
of the economic pressure, but on the positives as a
matter of fact, on so much pressure that they're trying

(18:04):
to split the states up, putting an extra pressure on
Mali and their economy, and then some of the surrounding
states and say hell so that our people know, say hello,
the Southwest African, the African states on the west coast
of Africa and going straight across the middle of Africa
all the way over to the east end. And these

(18:26):
states have fought and got their independence on France and
they're kicking out the French, and they're kicking out the Americans,
and they say get the hell out of Africa and
leave the goal behind on your way out. So they
have been advancing their economies since that, but there's a
threat to bust that alliance of states up. And there's

(18:47):
been a lot of pressure not just with the travel band,
but also with the economic isolation and the threat of
military invasion. You know, some of the countries around the
Mali here, the Kina Faso countries like Senegal and a
few others America and France, it's trying to build some

(19:09):
bases there or expand on their bases there to threaten them.
And it is putting pressure not only on the economies
trying to break up the help Alliance, but from what
I'm hearing that it's still going strong, and Theikina Faso
and other countries, they're still developed in their economy. They

(19:30):
are moving ahead, and agriculture they're moving ahead and nationalizing
the gold and the other mining industries. They're moving ahead
of kicking out Canadian and other European companies that are
exploit and ripping off the natural resources of Africa, particularly

(19:52):
the gold and the uranium and Nichier and other places.
So it's still moving forward. And there are some countries
that are are considering joining the alliance of the Hell States,
and as they try to break up that alliance and
put pressure on Mali and other countries to leave it.

(20:14):
But remember a lot of these hell countries left well,
most of them four three four, the left Eco Oire
the Economic Community of West African States, which is controlled
by Nigeria, one of the largest militaries in Africa, and
his gold I mean oil rich, which is why Trump

(20:36):
is threatening to go into Nigeria and save the exact
Christians like he cares about black Christians in Nigeria, and
also threatening Venezuela because that's oil rich. And see what's
happening with taking over oil tankers and blowing up piracy,
blowing up ships and piracy taking over ships. I mean

(20:59):
it's violate every human rights and international law that you
could think of. So sa Hell is still moving forward
and it's being being very influent in puential in places
like Togo. And I want to include in that Benin.
Benin just recently had a coop Dayta Their coup data

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was what about a week or two ago in twenty
twenty five, and they had a cool Daytai and Benin,
which is right near the in the Sahel region. Benen,
which in nineteen sixty got its independence from France, but
it was a sham independence, you know, the French was

(21:42):
still controlling things. But by nineteen sixty three they had
a coup. Nineteen sixty five they had another coup and
this is all called Dahomy da Dahomie. They called it Dahomie,
then Dahomy. In nineteen seventy two they had a mark
His coup where a Marxist government was in place in

(22:03):
Dahome and the Marxist government changed the name in nineteen
seventy five to Benin. And then in nineteen ninety the
markets government was disempowered and so the French back in control.
And then they had a a coup this year, and
this was an interesting coup. They were trying to be

(22:24):
like each year and Mali and Niets and became of Faso.
But they only took over part of the military. It
was a lieutenant.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
He took over.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
Part of the military announced on Benien radio that they
had taken over the government, that the president Talan was
out of power. However he wasn't arrested. The president and
half of the military was still loyal to him. So
they thought at that coup and they got the country back.

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But the may of fact that they had a coup
influenced by the Sahel alliance tells you that the seeds
have been planted in Benin and Togo, and seeds have
been planted in countries like Codivar used to call the
Ivory Coast. Those seeds have been planted. So revolution is

(23:16):
still on fire. And let me just end it with
this or add this to it. What's really been interesting
is the development of bricks. You know, when bricks came
together two thousand and nine, bricks to Brazil, Russia, India, China,

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and South Africa. They expanded to ten countries and these
bricks countries now represent fifty six percent of the world's population.
There's eight billion people in the world and four point
five almost five billion people are represented in the bricks countries.

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And the gross domestic problem is about forty five percent
of the gross domestic product is controlled by the bricks countries.
Now just compare that to the G seven that controlled
the global economy for decades, and they only have less
than ten percent of the population seven hundred and eighty

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million and about thirty percent of the gross domestic product.
And put that in the context when Trump's talking about
tariffs to these countries, that America is only three hundred
and thirty million in population, and you're talking about putting
tariffs against people who are four point five a billion,
you know, almost half the world's population. So what they've

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done recently is similar to what the Euro did. I
mean the European Alliance did, and they developed their own
currency called the Euro. Well, Bricks now is experimenting with
a new turancy called the unit. And these Bricks countries
first said, first let's get into dedollarization, there's less dependency

(25:09):
on the dollar. Let's then establish two new economic structures,
the Contingency Reserve Agreement CRA, which will replace the IMF,
and then the New Development Bank NDB, which will replace
the World Bank. So now you have these two international

(25:31):
agencies that Bricks created, and countries are contributing to those
agencies so that if they want to borrow money they
don't have to go to the IMF or the World Bank.
They don't the trade with the World Trade Organization the WTO.
These are imperialist international agencies, along with the influence that

(25:52):
the United Nations have, that was all created to keep
America and the dollar in Europe in power with the euro.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
So now the right, they Charles, before you've got any
further in bricks, and I got a question for you
about bricks. But I just want to mention that you
mentioned Benin. It was formerly the Homie visited Benin. They
have the annual Voudan conference, and you know Voodoo people.
They told me the colonizers changed the domatic negative. But
it's a religion and they call it voodoo, but for

(26:22):
them it's known as Voudan. And they have this conference
early every year at International Vedan Conference every year in Benin.
And they also told me that if you know any
Haitian brothers and sisters, you tell them this is where
they're from. This is where most of the brothers and
sisters were shipped went from. The content from Haiti came
from what was the Charles mentioned as Dahomie. But I

(26:43):
want to go back to bricks though, Charles, can you
tell us if Saudi Arabis part of bricks yet.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Saudi Arabia applied as a supportive See there's two kinds
of Bricks supporting countries. One is the main or actually
becoming a Bricks member, and that's only ten countries that
does not include Saudi Arabia. But then there's the support

(27:13):
of nations that are applying to bricks. It's about ten
of both nations. There's Saudi Arabia and others and even
Spikino Faso Cuba. A lot of those nations right now
are supportive nations and they're going through the process to
become member nations.

Speaker 6 (27:30):
You know.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
It's almost like the United Nations, which I'm not crazy
about this structure in bricks, or the United Nations, where
you have the General Assembly and then you have the
you know, four or five countries that really can vote
and can beat those stuff, you know, so it has
that kind of a structure. But these other countries, Indonesia

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and other countries, Vietnam and a lot of these countries,
so countries either can be supportive or member states.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Well. I think the key thing though, is Charles, is
that the Saudi Arabia and the whole if you can
explain to the family about the petro dollar how they
worked out of it. I think it was FDR worked
out a deal that with the United States would give
the military support. But if they treated the oil and dollars.
And we see this se when when Biden was in office,

(28:26):
how expensive gasoline was the petrick petroleum was. Now Trump's
knowsly how cheap it is because he's working with them
and he's concerned that if they joined Bricks as a
full fledged member and then the United States position of
the world's reserve currency will be in peril. So can
you explain all that for our family, Charles.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yes, they are scared to death because that's what's happening
when you look at the Petro Petro dollars. And this
is why Eon, Musk and Trump were at odds. The Club,
the Hell and the Bricks will threatening an American dollar
and they have devaluation of the dollar. So the currency

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is very important internationally. And this is what happened I
mentioned before when I was on in nineteen forty four
when they had the conference, the Brettonwood Conference here in
America where forty four countries came together after World War
one or Imperialist War one, and France and England said, America,

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you be the superpower. We'll box back the dollar by
gold that they stole from Africa, and we'll make the
currency that international currency, the dollar. Will set up the
World Bank, will set up the International Monetary Fund, We'll
set up the United Nations. It used to be the
League of Nations, then it became the United Nations, and

(29:52):
we'll set up NATO the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, and
these are military coalitions to keep the gone, and then
later on the World Trade Organization. Well, all of this
is being threatened by bricks. So with the currency challenge,
as you mentioned so accurately. Now some of the Saudi Arabia,

(30:12):
the Arab immorants, and these are not progressive countries, but
these are countries now that are looking at bricks and
they seeing independence and they can reduce their dependency on
the dollar. And that is the threat that's happening around
the world. So, brothers and sisters, the world economy is changing,

(30:33):
The global economy is in revolutionary change in America, and
this is directly going to impact us. So when people say,
you know, what should I Why should I be concerned
about bricks? Why should I be concerned about this hell revolution?
And I'm trying to make ends meet here in Brooklyn

(30:54):
and East New York and Harlem and black communities across
the country where it's the same enemy or the same exploitis.
Capitalists exploits are the ones that are doing that internationally
through imperialism and doing the same thing to you right
here in America. So a blow against that is a

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blow towards your freedom and independence. When we begin to
connect with the countries of the world that are in revolution,
and when we begin to take the forty eight point
five million African people black people in America and say
that we're going to use our resources, our money, We're

(31:38):
going to use our votes, We're going to use our talents,
our skills to be able to do community land trust
and get some land and do things pending the revolution
so that we can be an independent people and control
the destiny of our beloved black communities. So when you
hear stuff going on in and nationally, it is impacting

(32:02):
you locally. We say, think globally, think internationally, but act locally.
America is in a decline. The American imply empire is
on the decline, the dollar is on the decline. And
it's because of the inclination, the inclining of countries independently

(32:22):
cutting the umbilical cord of imperialism, colonialism, neo colonialism, the
new way to colonize us, to put black faiths in
a hot place and do the same thing.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Oh that's all right there, Charles. We gotta check the ladies' news.
Trafficking within our different cities when we come back, though,
tell us what we can do because obviously, as you mentioned,
the country's in the decline. At some point the dollar
is not going to be the world's reserve currency. What
steps can we take to protect ourselves going forward? Family,
you want to join this conversation with Charles Baron hit
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(32:53):
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grant rising family waking up with us on this some
day sixteen minutes away from the Talio. I guess that
Charles Brown, the former New York City lawmaker. He's with us,
and right now we're talking about bricks and talk about
the economy where this country is heading. Before we go
back to him, let me just remind you that later

(33:14):
this morning, doctor B's going to join us. He's going
to explain the significance of Sunday's Winter Solstice and also
talk about his new book. Also, brother Suji will Jonas
to talk about the importance of celebrating Quanta. And tomorrow
we're going to join by doctor Denise Turley. She's going
to share how you can monetize AI artificial intelligence. And

(33:34):
also DC activists Dirol Muhammad will be here talk about
the combating the violence in the district and chematologist Tony
Brown will also join us. Tony will talk about his
new book that this comes out this week. So if
you are in Baltimore, make sure you keep you ready,
locked in tight on ten ten WLB or if you're
in the DMV family, we're on fourteen fifty WL. All right,
So what should we do? How can we've positioned ourselves?

(33:58):
And I'm speaking of blacks and the lass board. All
this happens, because this is going to happen. It's just
a matter of time for all this what your predict
is going to happen. So what do we do?

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Yes, here's the thing that we can do. This is
the greatest time to be alive, the greatest challenge of
African people in America to make sure we take control
of our destiny. You know, right now, the Republican Party
is imploding, as you'll mentioned some of the dynamics between them.

(34:27):
The Democratic Party is imploding. Ha King Jefferies is weak
and they're talking about getting rid of Chuck's humor. So
they're imploding, and then the American capitalism is in dire strate.
I mean it's like food is so expensive, you come
out cheaper eating your money instead of buying food. So
all of this has happening, is just making report on

(34:49):
Trump's economy or capitalist economy. Jobs are not there, the
unemployment rate is rising. So when you see all of that,
what must we do? And this I want to I
want to suggest to our people that O'Malley Yesha Teller
of the African People's Socialist Party and the Black and

(35:09):
Black Coalition has a great analysis, you know as a
theoretician and revolutionary theoretician and African internationalism. But locally, he's
saying that we need to really analyze our communities as
domestic colonies colonialism. See when you just focus on racism,

(35:30):
talking about inclusion into a dying capitalist system. So he
offers colonialism an analysis of colonialism, and that's really the
effect in our community. And guess what. Check out this
quote from doctor Martin Luther King in nineteen sixty seven
when he spoke before people in a progressive forum. He said,

(35:54):
we must realize that the problems of racial injustice and
economic and justice cannot be solved without a radical redistribution
of political and economic power. We must further recognize now
this is the ghetto is a domestic colony. Black people

(36:17):
must develop programs that will aid in the transfer of
power and wealth into the residence of the ghetto so
that they may realize and control their own destiny. This
is the meaning of new politics. That's doctor Martin Luther

(36:37):
King and Stope Carmichael then named Stophanie Kwame Teray also
characterize Black communities as domestic colonies. Why is this so
important so that we don't put a whole lot of energy, resources,
time into struggles that it's trying to make us a
part of a dying capitalist system, of a dying imperialist

(37:03):
system internationally. So we have to do what doctor King
is talking about. And the way to do that we
have to get revolutionaries, black radical thinking people into for
the meantime electoral politics. You can use that as we
did in Eastern New York and make sure you meet

(37:24):
some of the needs of our people as you raise
their revolutionary consciousness, particularly in city councils across the country.
Because it's a uni camera body, not by camera too,
like a state assembly and the state Senate a federal
government that consists of you know, senators, two from each state,

(37:46):
and the House Congress.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
People buy camera.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
So I think that's one thing we have to get power.
Omalai Esa Tella said it, well, power is the great equalizer.
When you have power or racism becomes irrelevant. Secondly, as
we fight for power in our local communities taken over
from the neo colonial black sellout puppets of the Democratic

(38:15):
Party and replace them with radicals and revolutionaries or at
least independent Black people that's looking out not for their
personal ambition, not for some rugged individualism and vulgar pragmatism,
but for the liberation of our people. Secondly, build alternative
institutions like the Nation of Islam is doing, like the

(38:37):
Shrine of the Black Madonna is doing with Bula Land,
buying up land and developing independent alternative institutions, having our
own banks, having our own businesses, and not capitalistic in
value and in mindset, but socialistic or communalistic, so creating

(38:58):
alternative institutions. Secondly, around all the issues, we are forty
eight million strong. So if we take to the streets,
we have two million strong in New York City, two
million Black people in New York City. Let's take to
the streets. And when we take to the streets to

(39:19):
organize around issues, we should stay out there and organize
for power to change the power equations. So if we
do that, hit the streets around issues like we have
issues around the thefts in New York City, we have
issues around homelessness or the unhoused in New York City,

(39:39):
and across the country we have the issues of poverty,
and that's what King was fighting against.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Two.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
So while we do these in the meantime struggles around
these issues, you have to raise the revolutionary consciousness of
the people in the meantime, so as capitalism collapses, it
won't be on our heads. It will be for an
independent people fighting to take control over our black communities.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
But having said that, Charles, how do we get many
of our folks are in the space. They don't they
don't want to rock the boat. They kind of comfortable,
as Dr Wilson said, They're just looking for a better
slot in the system of racist and white supremacy. And
when you use words like radical and revolutionary, those terms
sort of frighten a lot of folks who probably would
support what you're saying. How do you can you reach

(40:32):
them without using those terms, or those terms.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
Were necessary.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
And all respect, we don't have to. We use radical.
I used radical, my wife used radical, revolution change, and
we won. We beat the most powerful democratic machine in
the country, The King's County Democratic Organization in Brooklyn is
the most powerful one in the country. We beat them

(41:00):
for twenty one years saying we're radical, we're revolutionary.

Speaker 6 (41:05):
Because they've been.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
Telling my people, I said, listen, radical scene simply means
getting to the root of the problem and not just
dealing with the symptoms. So when I was able to
get and I think Mimo cocker Brawl is a great
revolutionary of Guinea, Pisu said it best. He said, bear
in mind talking to his revolutionary. The masses of our

(41:28):
people are not fighting for ideas and thoughts and theories
in your mind. They're fighting for material benefits and for
a future for their children. Mass no difficulties, tell no lies,
and claim no easy victories. What I'm saying this morning
is that our people will hear that if you get

(41:51):
into the electoral arena like we did and begin to
build three new eighty eight million dollar schools, have over
one thousand, six thousand jobs, had food cooperatives. We brought
food into the community. We bought affordable housing into the
income level of the people of East New York. We're

(42:12):
not gentrified. We were able to use that power to
get fifty million dollars worth of scholarships, one hundred and
fifty million dollars worth of renovated parks. We were able
to do so much. So when you meet the needs
of the people, they will hear your politics. If you
come out there with empty rhetoric, they don't want to

(42:35):
hear it. They will hear revolutions, they will hear radical
You don't have to abandon. They will hear socialism if
you meet their needs. If you're not meeting their needs,
either independently by pulling our resources together like Marcus Garvey
did and build alternative institutions and meet the needs of

(42:58):
the people, or like the honorle Elijah Muhammad did in
the Nation of Islam. Remember, those are some of our
largest movements, and they were meeting the needs of the people.
And both of them were supportive of socialist kinds of things,
and both of them were supportive of leaders around the
world like the Nation of Islam. Monmarkadfi, Marcus Gabi. He

(43:20):
even send a letter to Lenin, to Vladimir Lenin after
the Russian Revolution in nineteen seventeen. So people will hear
your rhetoric if you meet their needs. So I'm saying,
let's not abandon that. Let's say, all right, we can't
say this. We can't say that. Even Republicans say revolution

(43:41):
radical republicans they used to call them. So we have
to meet the needs of the people so that we
can raise their revolutionary consciousness. We've done that.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Well, let me ask you this a five way from
the top. How does thistftail? Does this collide with the
polishes of your coming.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
Mary my dad, Very good question. I'm glad you asked.
We can't be fooled by these pseudo socialists, these fake socialists.
He's coming in now. This is a man talked to
all out socialism. But now he kept Jessica Tish, who

(44:23):
is a part of the oligarchy family that he's supposed
to be fighting against. He kept her as the police commissioner.
He is now trying to make Hi King Jeffries, a
Zionist supporter, a sellout for black liberation. He wants to
make High Queen Jeffries support him. Being the news speaker

(44:46):
in Congress, he called Venezuela a socialist country and Cuba
a socialist country. He called them dictatorships. He now has
a four hundred the same thing Barack Obama that he
has four hundred people on the transition team, so that
he puts everybody on there, whether you're Zionists or whatever, whatever.

(45:09):
He puts everybody on this transition team to make like
he's with everybody. But the bottom line, most of his
top people are white. He is a neo liberal trying
to engage in and vulgar pragmatism, political pragmatism over political principles,
so that he can be a move the Democratic Party

(45:33):
to be a little more progressive, just as AOC did Acossio,
and just as Bernie Sanders did when both of them
supported Biden, both of them supporting Kamala Harris, and both
of these people support as a Democratic Party and the
Republican Party support the very imperialism that we were talking

(45:54):
about earlier. That Bricks and Sahl is trying to stop
the very domestic colonialism that we talked about earlier. That
Martin Luther King, the Black Panthers, Malcolm X and all
of us are trying to stop. We got to stop
the enemies of our people that are masking as socialists

(46:14):
or masking as progressive, whatever the hell that means nowadays.
And that's why we have to say we need black radical,
revolutionary independent thinkers that are dealing with our businesses. They
should be socialistic or communalistic or collective and not capitalistic,

(46:35):
because I don't want to replace a white oppressor with
a black oppressor.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
All right, Hold, that's all right there, Charles. We got
to check the trafficking with in our different cities when
we come back. Now, tell us how we're going to
get this message across to our people. Family, you two
can join this discussion with Charles brantfulm of New York
City lawmaker. Reach out to us at eight hundred and
four five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take
your phone calls at two minutes away from the top
of the hour. Next and Grant Rising family, thanks for

(47:02):
making us part of your morning. Richual. I guess right
now he's a Charles Baron Chaws, a former New York
City lawmaker, and he's got a book out. We're going
to talk about his book and he's telling us about
the new movement of the position we should be putting
ourselves in as we go through some changes. We've got
to go through some changes globally. And my question, Jim,
how do we get how do we reposition ourselves to

(47:22):
take advantage of the changes? And Charles he mentioned what
to do, but how do we get this message out
to most of our folks? So it seems like a
lot of our people, Charles are on the late training
when it comes to issues like this.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
You're so right, and I think sometimes it starts right
at home, right on your block, right in your local neighborhood.
We have two groups that we're organizing with now. One
is a local group group called the Black Solidarity Coalition.
We got a host of groups together, Black radical groups,
black nationalist groups, The U and I A is a

(47:56):
part of it, Marcus Garvey's organization, the Nation of Islam,
our organization, Operation Power, the December Twelfth Movement, SIMILTEP of
doctor James Macintosh, and a bunch of young organizations Black
Men Build and the Palava Collectives. These are young revolutionaries
and what we're doing is we organizing around issues housing,

(48:18):
keeping it affordable and conservation of our young people and
how to keep that from happening, and looking at the
thefts and some other issues. So we're organizing around these issues,
and now we're getting more and more attention from the
people in power they acquiescent to some of our concerns
and from our local people, and we're coupling that with

(48:41):
some ideology to go along with it. And then we
have the National Black Radical Political Congress, which we've had
our conferences for the last four years in different places
and got over about ten different states represented and almost
one hundred people. So we're building these things, and in

(49:03):
both of these formations we're going to addition to organize
around issue issues, we're going to run people for office,
so I think that's important. And then as you said,
I do have a book out that has a lot
of this information that I mentioned to you in it,
and it's called Speaking Truth to Power, and that book
you can get online only from Bonds and Noble. I

(49:26):
am published by Black Classic Press. They publish it for me,
but for the print on demand since they don't have
that service, we went with Bonds and Nobles, So that's
one way. And then we have two radio programs, one
program is on Black Power Media reloaded and that's every

(49:49):
Thursday on Black Power Media. We load it on YouTube
every Thursday from seven to eight. This Thursday, as Christmas
comes upon us and we talk about stopping the exploitation
of these holidays, economic exploitations. And we're gonna have a
program called Jesus African in Origin and Revolutionary and Action

(50:11):
Red Herd the Dotsy is going to be one of
the persons of the House of the Herb Dotsery Ministries
and the House of the Lord Churches and Naritus National Churches.
And then we're gonna have Bishop Tejanaba Keita and she's
a bishop in the Shrine of the Black Madonna. You
remember Reben alvet Klegg's church and he became a thermojib Age.

(50:35):
So that we're gonna have push across. And then every
Friday we have a radio program called the first one
was called Operation Power on Thursdays Speaking Tooth of Powers
our radio program on Friday, and that's on w BAI
dot org Extreme and w BAI dot org every Friday from.

Speaker 6 (50:57):
Five to six.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
So that's how we get in there. We're getting a
message it out by our action activities and our local
communities in New York. There's two million of us in
New York. So the acting part of it, and then
through the book and through the printed book, and through
the media sources social media on YouTube, and then the

(51:19):
radio program on wb AI is the way we're getting
information out.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
All right, and heck of folks reach you, Charles.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
If you want more information on stuff, just email me.
That's the best way. Charles Baron c h A R
L E. S. Barn b as in bray A r
r O N as a nation and as a nation
op as an operation power, Charles barn Op at gmail

(51:51):
dot com.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
All right, and Charles, thank you for giving us an
update on the sale nations because it seems to be
a white aut on information what's taking place with those
progressive states on the continent. And if anything changes, please
just call us so we can share it with the family.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
Absolutely, Thank you so much, Carl, I appreciate you man.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
All right, thanks Charles, that's Charles Baron, family of a
former New York City lawmakers. And he's still out there's
still out there grinding for us. Eight minutes after the
top of the let's bringing brother Shojohn now brother Sujah
grand Rising, welcome back to the program.

Speaker 6 (52:23):
Thank you, brother Carl grand Rising to you as well.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Usually we talked to you. Is all around Kwanza Quansas
coming up before we get into some of the things
that you guys are doing for Kwansa. Why do tell
the family why should we celebrate Kwansa? And is Kwansa
a substitute for Christmas?

Speaker 7 (52:42):
Well, thanks for that question, Carl. Kwansa is not intended
to be a substitute for Christmas. Many people, in fact,
almost I'm almost inclined to say most people, but a
whole lot of people celebrate Christmas and Kwansa is a
cultural celebration, now religious. There's no conflict between celebrating them both.

(53:04):
I forget your first question, can you can you what
was your first question?

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Yeah? The first question is what why should we Why
should we celebrate Kwansa.

Speaker 7 (53:11):
We should celebrate Quansa because it was designed. It was
created to reconnect us in a meaningful way with our culture.
It's a seven day occasion that gives us an opportunity
to recognize the seven Principles. It's all about black positivity.
You know, I can't think of a reason not to
celebrate it. Carl to be perfectly honest. So yes, indeed,
I think we all should be celebrating Quansa and practicing

(53:34):
seven principles of course.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Okay, and you're part of the African Restoration Project and
you're having a series of events highlighting a surrounding quanta.
Can you share some of those events that are going
to take place.

Speaker 6 (53:47):
Yes.

Speaker 7 (53:47):
Indeed, we actually have two events that we are directly
involved in. First event is on Umoja Night December twenty sixth.
That's happening in my hometown of Detroit. We're working together
with our Key Bolan Village. Our Key Blane Village is
a community organization in Detroit that manages the annual construction

(54:09):
of the Motor City Canaro, which is the world's largest canaro.
It stands about thirty feet tall. It's part of the
holiday celebration in downtown Detroit, and we're working together with
them to sponsor a children's play on Emojini. It will
be happening at the Charles Wright Museum, the Grand Great
African American Museum in the city of Detroit. A children's

(54:32):
play titled Quanza for Kids that's based on a children's
book that we are developing by the same title that
deals with the origin of the holiday from the perspective
of two of the children who were involved. So we're
looking forward to that. And then on the twenty eighth,
the African Restoration Project has our own annual Quanzi event,

(54:53):
which will be online this year. We intend to be
in person next year, but online this year in a
program that we are titling the Inguzo Saba at sixty
Black people and the Nguzo Saba at sixty how treating
the Seven Principles like a black job could save the world.
So we're looking forward to having that event and having

(55:15):
that discussion and talking about the Seven Principles in that context.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
All right, family, just join us. I guess your brother
Sujah is part of the African Restoration Project. They're in
finding the entire community to participate in Quanta twenty twenty five.
Then they have a serious events that are taking place
before we do all that, Brother Suja. People know about Quanca,
they know the word quanct but they don't know in Guzasapa,
they know the principles. Can you go through that and

(55:40):
educate our family?

Speaker 7 (55:41):
Oh? Absolutely. Kwanda is a celebration of the Seven Principles,
of course had the Salvation as the celebration of family,
community and culture. But it is all about the Seven Principles.
That's one of the great misconceptions people have about kwanza
A lot of other things are introduced into the conversation

(56:03):
all the time, but we make it clear that kwans
of the holiday itself, it's about Black people in the
Seven Principles, and the seven Principles are universal values, universal
principles that all people of goodwill and grace. Of course,
these come from an African perspective. The seven principles are

(56:23):
Fumoja unity, Kuji child and Leah, self determination, Fujima collective
work and responsibility, fujah Mah cooperative economics, Nia Purpose, Kuumba
creativity and Imani faith. Those are the seven principles and

(56:44):
there are definitions that go along with them that speak
to their significance as a collective value system, the communitarian
value system. And we believe within the African Restoration Project
that the Seven Principles represents a guaranteed well, they represent
a code of conduct that will produce guaranteed positive outcomes

(57:08):
if we apply them. There's no disputing that if we
practice these principles consistently, we will improve our outcomes and
improve our standing in every area of life.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Gotcha thirteen At the top there, brother brother Sujah. Part
of the manifestation about quantitation of the fact, he says,
treating the Seven Principles like a black job could save
the world. Explain what you mean by that?

Speaker 7 (57:33):
Yes, indeed, and I'm glad to do that. And I
can do that fairly simply too, because as I said,
we see the Seven Principles as a guaranteed roadmap to
better outcomes, a guaranteed roadmap to better outcomes if we
apply them consistently. We maintain that that will result in
us becoming the best possible version of ourselves. And the

(57:56):
record shows without question that when we are at our
best us, the world follows us. So by extension there,
if we follow the seven Principles become the best version
of our seals, Brother Karl, then we will in turn
inspire other people to become a better or the best
version of themselves too. And we maintained that the way

(58:18):
to create a better world is by increasing the number
of good people in it, people who are operating at
their highest level. Right, So, in that way, brother Carl
by us following the seven principles, becoming the best version
of our seals, we inspire the same in others and
in the process we move forward towards creating the best

(58:38):
world possible, saving the world. So that's the position that
we take.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
All right, fourteen half the top of they are from
an African restoration project. They have Brother Suja is joined us.
I think it's down in San Diego, out in San
Diego this morning and they put they've got a serious
events surrounding Kwanza Brother Suja. Some folks and the critics
of Quansa even people look like or say that it
was it was a stolen from other religions and other
ideologies or put together and call us into what we

(59:05):
know in analyst Quantsa. Is there any truth of that?
Can you dispute that, debunk that for us?

Speaker 7 (59:11):
Well, I've heard a lot of things being said about Quanta,
but I must admit that this is the very first
time I've heard that one. I haven't heard that one before.
So there's no truth in that at all, and I
don't I don't even want to go into much detail
trying to respond to it. There's no truth to that.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
At all.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
But the Carl all right, good, well, that's the response
fifteen after the top of the You know you have
any of these events. If someone wants to celebrate quants
at home, what should they be doing?

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Well?

Speaker 7 (59:39):
I recommend this First of all, Kwanza is based on
a thoughtful process. It's not a simple matter where you know,
you just walk in and do and do quansa uh.
There's a deep thought behind it. There are rituals, there
are practices that go along with it. The source, ultimate
source well all things Quasi related is a book written

(59:59):
by the cre the Holiday Doctor, Malinic Karanda, the titled Kwanza,
a Celebration of Family, Community and Culture. That book is
available through the University of Sanchory Press and through other outlets.
It's published by a University of Sanchory Press and that's
the best place to get it for full information. But
any event that you don't have that book, I highly

(01:00:20):
recommend going to the Quanta dot org website where all
of the related information about the holiday can be found.
One of our programs is called Quanta for Kids, and
we have developed in the Quantsa for Kids section on
our website a video called Kwanza essential. It's a five

(01:00:40):
minute video that goes through a discussion about everything that
is necessary for a legitimate quanza celebration. So either get
ahold of a book or go to Quonza dot org
website and find out all of the information that you
need there. But the same information is contained in both sources.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Got you seventeen minutes at the top there, We've gotta
step away for a few months and we come back there.
I want you to discuss the positioning statement for your
group and what we need from the next sixty years
of Kwansa and the Angusha Saba and who will provide it.
It was a great question. So if you can explain
that to our family, appreciate it and family, if you
want to join this conversation. You got a question about Kwansa,
you can speak to Brother Shuja. You can reach us

(01:01:22):
at eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight
seventy six and we'll take your phone calls next and
grand Rising family, thanks for rolling with us on this
Wednesday morning, hump Day. We're halfway through the work week
with our guest, Brother Suja. We're talking about Kwanza. Let
me shout out teachers this morning on the way to work.
Hopefully you'll hear something in this conversation you can pass
on to our young people when you get to class.

(01:01:43):
Brother Sujah, he's part of the African Restoration Project and
this is what they deal with every year. Always have
these Quanza programs that they're putting on. And before we left,
we asked them about the positioning statement, actually what is
needed for the next sixty years of Kwansa and the
and Guzhashaba. Who'll provided so your thoughts?

Speaker 7 (01:02:05):
Yes, indeed, well, a lot of people may not know.
This year marks the sixtieth anniversary of being Guzo Saba.
The Seven Principles were originally introduced in nineteen sixty five.
Next year will be the sixtieth anniversary of Kwansa. So
what we did within our organization we took a look

(01:02:25):
at where we are as black people today relative to
the Seven Principles. We concluded that we haven't gained as
much from those teachings as we need, you know, and
we also believe that solutions to the current social crises,
the different variety of social crises that we're facing, must

(01:02:47):
come from an African source. That we have to make
a deeper connection with African culture and find the lessons
that are available within it to all of the issues
that we face where that's concerned. We don't believe that
we have gained as much from the Seven Principles as
is available to us, that we should increase our standing

(01:03:09):
in all of those areas. Right, So the question then becomes, well,
who will guide us to that, who will lead us
in that way, who will provide that inspiration? And our
response to that is that all of us should be
doing that. Anybody who has a deep appreciation for these teachings,
certainly people like me, I've been practicing quantity for well

(01:03:29):
over almost well thirty years. People who have these types
of deep connections to it certainly are called on, I believe,
during the course of the next six years and beyond,
to do what we can to dig deeper into those teachings.
It's a communitarian holiday, it's a communal holiday, you know.
It's about the community. It's about the collective work that
we can accomplish together. So we take the position that

(01:03:52):
anybody who has a meaningful contribution to make to us
going forward and gaining more out of these teaching is
called upon to do that, and we're certainly trying to
answer that call at the African Restoration Project with a
series of different programs that we've developed in strategies to
do exactly what I just talked about, to provide a

(01:04:14):
context for us to dive a little bit deeper into
these teachings and get a little bit more out of them.
And that's the work that we're.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Doing, all right, twenty three have the tom there. You
know Quana I recall back in the seventies when it
was getting popular in southern California, and then it got nationwide.
Now it's international. We have brothers and sisters in the
diaspora celebrating Quansa. Are you surprised that it's taken a
life of its own now and becoming an international phenomenon.

Speaker 7 (01:04:43):
Well, I have so much respect and appreciation for the
thought and the culture that informs it that no, I'm not.
I'm not surprised by it. Would I would think that
the more people who become aware of these teachings, the
more people will will embrace them. So the fact that
it's sell braided so broadly right now doesn't surprise me

(01:05:03):
at all. But I must admit I'm a bit I'm
a bit surprised that more people don't, because for all
of the Black people who do celebrate Quands, and more
Black people don't celebrate Quands. So there's great potential to
reach a greater number of people, a greater number of
the people who are specifically the focus of the holiday,

(01:05:24):
you know. So we're looking to increase the build on
that number, Brother Carl. We believe that we can take
those numbers up to even higher numbers, you know. And
that is simply a matter of sharing an accurate understanding
of what the holiday is all is all about with people,
you know, getting past some of the misconceptions, clarifying some

(01:05:44):
of the concerns that people have about the holiday that
aren't really related to the holiday, you know. And if
we do that, the beauty of the holidays, the beauty
of the teachings stand on their own. And I think
that anybody who becomes fully aware of what this occasion
is all about and the objectives of it would would
would surely embrace it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Yeah twenty five. At the top of that, brother Suja,
we still have folks who feel that this is an
alternative to Christmas, or it's a new religion. How can
you assuage those people who think like that, How can
you share with them that it's not You can still
celebrate Christmas, and also you can also celebrate Kwanza as well.
And if you're a Muslim, if Islam or whatever religion,

(01:06:27):
you can celebrate Quanta. Can you explain that to the family.

Speaker 7 (01:06:31):
Well, we live in an era that a lot of
people referred to as the information age, right, most of
us have these devices attached to the end of our
you know, attached to our hands far more often than
we should be perfectly honest, and the information is readily
available to anybody who is interested, you know, with a
couple of with a couple of a couple of cliques.

(01:06:53):
So it's it's a little bit odd that people who
would be interested in knowing the truth don't know the
truth about the holiday. You know, some people use that
misperception to distance, to stay distant from Kwansa and to
cause other people to be distant from Kwansa by passing

(01:07:14):
that on. But the information is readily available to anybody
who wants to know. No, no, brother Carl, anybody who's listening.
Kwanza is not competing with Christmas, you know, there's no
need for Kwanza to compete with Christmas. You know, Kwansa
isn't hostile to Christmas in any way. And it's a

(01:07:37):
cultural holiday, you know, it's about celebrating African history, culture
and people and bringing us forward, connecting us in a
more meaningful way. And some people are hostile towards that act.
You know, some people don't like the idea of us
being united in the way that Kwansa and the Seven
Principles encourage us to. So those types of myths stay
out there because I believe there is some resistance to

(01:08:00):
the objectives that we're pursuing. But anybody can find out
very quickly that there's no conflict between Kwanza and uh
and Christmas. And that's one of the that's one of
the that's one of the mess that we're working to eradicate.
Their brother Carl, It keeps a lot of people away.

(01:08:21):
I won't see a lot of people, but it keeps
some people away from knowing about and participating in the
goodness of Quanta.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
All right, family, twenty nine minutes away from the top day,
he's just checking in. Our guess, is brother Suja brother
Sujah's or the African and the restoration project based in
San Diego, and they're celebrating Quanja and they want the
world to celebrate Quansa as well. Brother Sujack and white
folks celebrate Kwanza? Can Latinos, can other races celebrate Kwanza?
Where do you stand on that?

Speaker 7 (01:08:48):
Well, Quantsa is a cultural celebration, you know, and a
question about celebrating becomes at least the two part question,
you know, about whether whether people can't participate can be present,
you know, for Quansa celebration, or whether they can actually
conduct And of course anybody who can participate or bear

(01:09:08):
witness to, you know, the rituals and the processes that
make up a quants of celebration are welcome to be there,
you know, they should. I believe we should share the
goodness of Quansa with other cultures, you know, That's how
we lead by example, you know. But in terms of
conducting Quansa ceremony, no, Quansa is a cultural celebration, So

(01:09:32):
only the people who are actively engaged in the culture
our right to conduct a Quansa celebration in the same
way that would be true about any other cultural event
or cultural celebration. It's it's interesting that we get questions
like that about about our occasions when you know, we
don't typically deal with those questions about participating and celebrating

(01:09:56):
in other pupil's cultural celebrations. So, long story short again,
bearing witness at participating as an observer as long as
it's done respectfully, yes, anybody can participate. But in terms
of coordinating and conducting quansa events, no, that's for African
American people, people of African descent, you know, because it
is in fact a cultural celebration.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
So you're saying that the brothers and sisters who are swirling,
they shouldn't bring their better half or other half as
you say, better other half to a quanti of celebration.

Speaker 7 (01:10:27):
No, I'm actually saying the opposite, as long as they
are coming with respect for the culture. You know, anybody
can bear a witness to a Kwanza celebration as long
as they're doing so respectfully. So if you are a
brother or a sister you know, who has connected yourself
with someone of a different culture and you want to
bring them to the occasion, as long as they're coming respectfully,

(01:10:47):
you know, certainly they can be there. Certainly as a
as a beloved of a person of the culture, you know,
assuming that they would come with respect. Most certainly they're invited.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Is that kind of like if they can invited to
the cookout? Is that kind of stance you're taking.

Speaker 7 (01:11:04):
On this almost set it Carl almost said, they're invited
to the cookout. Yes, indeed, they're invited to They're invited
to the quality event in a manner, uh, similar to
the way they would be invited to the cookout. You know,
as long as they come and act correctly, they're welcome
to the next one. You know how that works.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Right. I'm glad you said that because you know, I know,
we got some listeners who're swirling and hey, we're not
judging you for that. You know, some people that's tell
me that love has no color and all of that
when not even go down that road. But if you
are and you want to juice you, your other half,
your partner to to Quanta, brother Suja says, it's cool.
You know they won't. You won't be judged for doing that.

(01:11:43):
So I just wanted you to to clarify that stance
where Quansa is concerned. And you know, in a few
days we'll ask doctor karing if he agrees as well, Family,
you want to join this conversation with Brother Suja. Brother
Suja's with the African Restoration Project and they every year
they do a lot of program surrounding Quanta. So we're
discussing some of the programs, and one of the programs

(01:12:04):
you're going to talk about, brother so is women, children
and the zep Tepi of Quanta, and I want you
to explain what that is and reconnecting with the original
inspiration of the first occasion.

Speaker 7 (01:12:16):
Yes, indeed that that position paper speaks to the focus
of our Quantas for Kids program UH and a focus
of our efforts more broadly. One of the strategies that
we developed for trying to increase the number of people
who know about and participate in Quansa and embrace and

(01:12:36):
apply to seven principles was we thought that there was
a need for something of a renewal. You know, renewal
is a part of the human life cycle, right. We
talk about reconnecting with the good old days in many ways,
you know, reconnecting with the best of what has been

(01:12:57):
lost over time and those types of things, and we
believe that that's necessary around Kwanza. You know, to reconnect
with some of the some of the things that have
been lost, reconnect with an understanding of the original inspiration
for it. You know, a lot of people don't know
that Quansa was initially inspired by the courageous questioning of

(01:13:20):
a ten year old girl who was concerned about the
prospect of not celebrating Christmas. December December twenty fifth, nineteen
sixty five, on Christmas Day, members of the US organization
visited doctor Korngda's home and a spirited discussion began about
the Christmas holiday and things that they were concerned about,

(01:13:44):
the ghost, materialism, the lack of agricultural representation, and there
was a discussion about whether they would continue celebrating it,
and that raised the attention that caught the attention of
the children who were nearby. As we would expect, you know,
I remember being a child and looking forward to Christmas
more than anything during the course of the year, you know,

(01:14:06):
for several months, we would be excited about it. So
the prospect of not participating in it would have caught
my attention in the same way that it caught the
attention of this ten year old girl, and she began
asking questions about African holidays as an alternative, you know,
and whether we could learn things from Africa, you know.

(01:14:27):
That was she didn't ask the question that way, but
that's what she meant, you know. The question she asked
was what do the Africans do you know around the holidays?
In other words, and what can we learn from them?

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:14:38):
So the original inspiration for the holidays came from this
little girl who was concerned about missing out on holiday funds.
So our strategy was to reconnect with that original inspiration.
The term zep tepi is an ancient cometic concept that

(01:15:00):
speaks to the process of returning to the best of
what has been lost, returning to the first occasion in
other words, so our efforts then speak to an attempt
to reconnect with that original inspiration, share an understanding of
that with the masses, because you know enough people don't

(01:15:20):
know about that, you know, and that gives an opportunity
to reintroduce the holiday to a new generation of children
and adults and reinforce the connection that people already have
with it, and you know, go go some ways to
help people create a new connection to it. And that's
what we're trying to do.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
All right, twenty five away from the top of that
Brother Suja, Brother Suja, we had this conversation I think
it was on Bundan. Were discussing the music of the season.
Any is there any songs that talk about this Quanta,
that celebrate Quanta, That's the first question. And also only
talk about the gifts, because you know people are talking
about right now that go into the store. It's a

(01:16:00):
shopping buying Christmas gifts. What's so is this similar what
goes on in the q Kwanza arena as well?

Speaker 7 (01:16:08):
Well, you know, Kansa is not It's not about uh,
the commercialism that other holidays are about. You know, Quansa
is about us. It's about reconnecting with these values and
these principles and these teaching to the extent that you
know children are involved. Of course, that the children are

(01:16:29):
the inspiration for what we refer to in the tradition
as a lotti. The gifts that are in fact the
part of the celebration, but the intent is to inspire creativity,
you know, where where the where the holiday is concerned.
So I would be more an advocate for making gifts
than buying gifts. But at the same time, I also

(01:16:49):
buy gifts, you know, so the purchasing of gifts is
not discouraged, but but the commercial focus you know, being uh,
the sale then you know, purchasing and all of that,
that's not the focus of the holiday, and we don't
want it to become the focus of the holiday. But
gift buying, sharing gifts with children, sharing gifts with loves

(01:17:12):
want loved ones, that's all part of the celebration. The
intent those for it to come from a deeper place,
you know, a place of culture after that to be
reflected in the exchange of gifts and all that goes
along with the holiday.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
I thought that we got to step aside for a
few moments and check the latey's news, trafficing weather in
our different cities. So let me come back there. Let's
talk about the commercialization of quans of celebration we saw
after Doctor King's holiday and people, you know, it's supposedly
supposedly act differently and think about some of the principles
that Doctor King exposed when he was alive, and it's
and somehow the holidays turn up for some folks a

(01:17:50):
big party effort, you know, King Day parties and all
this kind of stuff. That's taken away. Are you concerned
that that same thing may come to kwans of quanja parties?
You know, our younger generation who really don't understand and
they're throwing these parties and in celebration of Quanta. But
it's all connected with the degenerative some of the generative

(01:18:11):
songs that we're hearing out there. And if do you
know of any Quanta songs that are out there, if
you can share that with us, that'll appreciate it. Family,
you two can get in on this conversation with Brother Suja.
You can reach us an eight hundred four or five
zero seventy eight seventy six. So we'll take a phone
calls after the news. Traffic weather that's next and Grand
Rising family, thanks for staying with us on this Wednesday morning,
so hump day. That means we're halfway through the work

(01:18:31):
week with our guests Brother Suja. Brother Suja's with the
African Restoration Project and they put on all these events
around the season for Quanza. We'll get back to in
the moment. Let me just remind you coming up later
this morning and speak with metaphysician and master herbalista that
would be doctor b. Doctor b is going to explain
these significance of Sundays went to Solstice. Also were going

(01:18:52):
to talk about this lady's book. And tomorrow we're going
to be joined by doctor Denise Turley. She's going to
share with us how to monetize AI, why should get
involved in artificial intelligence, and how to make some money
doing it as well. Also, DC activist Direl Muhammad will
be here to talk about his ongoing crusade to reduce
the crime rate in the district and also chemtologists Brother
Tony Browner will also check in. Brother Tony's got a

(01:19:14):
new book he wants to share with us as well.
So if you are in Baltimore, make sure you keep
you reading a lot t in Tight around ten ten
WLB or if you're in the DMV ERA that's the
Washington metropolitan area, keep you reading a lot in tight
on fourteen fifty WL. So, Brother Suja, before we left
for the news update, my question to you, was you
concerned that we may see a commercialization of QUANTSA, we
may see some of us. You know, we've got some Well,

(01:19:35):
let's just a minute, we've got some some of our
young people who likely have got raunchyr lyrics and some
of the music that they put out. Do you see
a time where that would be a concern where they
do that? And talking about Quanta and include Quanta, what'd
you see more more progressive positive songs about Quanta? Because
we talked about Christmas music earlier this week and couldn't
identify any song this you know's a Quanta song. So

(01:19:58):
maybe you can help us out with that.

Speaker 7 (01:20:00):
Oh yeah, I got a line up for you. But
we do, we do have to be concerned about, uh
that those those uh, that language and those messages that
are out in the broader culture being attached to Kuans
that we've had to deal with some young people ourselves,
uh to give them some guidance, send some advice on
the proper way to go about quansa and why we

(01:20:20):
why we don't want to incorporate those elements into it,
you know, And so far we've been we've been successful
with that. You know, you go out of them the
right way, uh, with with love, understanding and with clear information, uh,
as we've done so far, and they respond to that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
Let me jump in here for a second, brother, So
we won't see anything. We won't hear about anybody working
for Quanza, not at.

Speaker 7 (01:20:44):
All, not at all. We don't We're not interested in
that at all. That's not what the holiday and the
culture is all about at all. So we don't want
to we don't want to include that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:54):
Uh, but there are if that happens.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
What you know, me, I'm just interrupt for a second,
because you know the slave dungeons and I'm Ghana. We
had some sisters African Americans and they were twerking on
some of the graves of some of their ancestors and said,
this is for the ancestors, and they were tweakings, totally disgusting.
What makes you feel like that that that same contract,
there's the same people with that same mentality won't do

(01:21:18):
the same thing for Quanta.

Speaker 7 (01:21:20):
Well, well, I'm glad you stayed with that, brother, Carl,
because that is that is a real concern.

Speaker 6 (01:21:26):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:21:26):
And And we run into them where they will say
that twerking is a part of African culture and too,
and to some extent that is true, you know, but
context is important, right, and you don't you don't see
you don't see people twerking in African culture in the
midst of serious celebrations. There's dancing and all those things

(01:21:48):
going on, and there would there would be some some
movement to that effect. But what we're talking about when
we're talking about twirking, is this overly sexualized type of
presentation of our bodies and things like that. And you know,
dancing and all of those things is part of it,
but taking it to those extremes goes beyond what the
what the holiday is about. That stuff is out here

(01:22:08):
as part of the negative aspects of this culture, and
indeed that's out there, it's part of the culture, but
we don't we don't look to have those things incorporated
in the same way, you know, around the holiday. That's
not to say that you shouldn't get your dance song,
you know, we want that, you know, we want you
to have a full and all celebration. But the type
of the type of turkying and that type of deliberate

(01:22:32):
excessive behavior like that, I think that goes a little
bit beyond what the end, what the intent is. Although
there are some great songs out there for the holiday,
and I'm glad you stuck with that question too, because
I can give you a quick lineup of four that
touch on a few different musical styles that appeal to us. Right,
I would say that the most the most widely heard

(01:22:55):
or played song around Kwanza is Happy quons by Teddy Pendergrass.
Know our Philadelphia bass crooner you know who who who
did that song created that song to show his connection
to the holiday. So Happy Quonza by Teddy Pendergrass is
an old school style you know a song. There's a

(01:23:16):
song that I'm really found by a beautiful sister by
the name of Lovely Hoffman. Title a Kwanza song that's
a classic R and B style groove. I love that
song and we make that a part of our our
annual events. A song titled This Kwanza has a R
and B will more will a hip hop flow to it,

(01:23:36):
you know, for those who like rap.

Speaker 6 (01:23:38):
This song is by a.

Speaker 7 (01:23:39):
Brother named fuch f y U T c H with
Pierce Freeline titled This Kwanza. It's a hip hop style
Kwanza song. Then fourth and last on the list is
this is a song called the Kwanza Slide and that's
another creation by Future and Culture Quinn and that is

(01:24:00):
a party style, line dance style song that that that
encouraged the celebration of the holiday. So those four songs
are excellent, uh, to use to enhance a Quanza celebration
or to just play at home, you know, just to
be in the in the spirit of the holiday, you know,
and those types of things, and to be able to
get your party on and the way you want to

(01:24:21):
get your party on, you know, around the holiday.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
Wow, I'm glad you shared that with us, because the
only one I was familiar with was Teddy's song and
Teddy Pengress Quanta song, and I didn't learn about that
till maybe a couple of years ago that he had
a Quanta song on one of his albums. So thank
you for sharing that with us. I'm sure the family
appreciate that as well. But let's let's get back to
the gift given of Quansa and Kwanza. You know when

(01:24:45):
you compare it to Christmas and people go, you know,
losing money, maxing out their credit cards and then they're
upset come January. Is that the same thing with Quanta
that you buy expensive gifts to to trade or to
give during this conscious celebration, Well not at all.

Speaker 7 (01:25:05):
I mean, Kwansa is not about the gifts. Kwansa is
about the seven principles. You know, the gift giving is
a part of it, but it's not the focus of it.
And there is no there is no motivation within the
holiday itself for you to go out, for anybody to
go out and go into debt, you know, spending a
lot of money on buying expensive gifts and those types

(01:25:25):
of things. Uh, the intent, the primary intent would be
for you to be creative, you know, in terms of
gift giving and you know, make gifts, make quality gifts,
make beautiful things you know that you share or if
you're gonna purchase, you know, purchase within purchase within what
you can afford. You know, there's no inclination to go

(01:25:45):
into debt and to you know, go to the extremes
that people do around other holiday occasions. You know, that's
not that's not the intent. H So, no, not at all.
We don't want you to go out and go on
in debt for the holiday. And there's a overall resistance
to the commercialization of the holiday. But at the same time,

(01:26:06):
we don't want that to go to the go so
far that you know, we don't develop around the concept
of ujama to the extent that we that we could
and to some extent the focus are not not allowing
Quantita to be commercialized.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
UH.

Speaker 7 (01:26:23):
If that goes too far, then that causes us to
throward our own development, you know. So we want to
develop within around the holiday, uh, develop our economics, you know,
around the holiday, uh as the as the principle itself says,
the definition for Ujama is to build and maintain our
own stores, shops and other businesses and to profit from

(01:26:46):
them together. So we don't want to be so we
don't want to go so far and resisting commercialism that
we don't you know, take advantage to apply that principle,
you know, but we certainly want to avoid the extremes,
and we certainly wouldn't want people uh living beyond their
means and going into debt to purchase a gift for
you know, the Quansas for the Quansa season. But we

(01:27:07):
definitely do need to develop develop our economy, you know,
within our community as much as we possibly can. And
I believe that doing that around Kwansa is certainly consistent
with the aims and goals of the holiday and the principles.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
Six away from the top of our family, a lot
of good books out there, you can use those gifts
for the Kansas. Well, you've heard that doctor Foxtug his book.
Tony Browner has a book coming out as well, and
doctor Bh's coming up next day. We'll talk about his book.
But I ask you this, Brother Sujah, Brother Sujas, I
guess Brother Sujas with an African restoration project in San
Diego's joined us early this morning. And Brother Sujah, can

(01:27:45):
you explain the canara and the candles and the why
and the process as part of the celebration for the family.

Speaker 7 (01:27:52):
Yes, indeed, the canara is the primary symbol of the
Kwanda holiday, and the canara itself and then the seven
the seven candles. The seven candles of course represent the
seven principles, and there's a process for the lighting of
the candles, and we always start in the center with
the black candle, the foundation of it all. It's about

(01:28:15):
the people, you know, and that's what that candle, the
black candle represents the people uh. And then we move,
you know, in the lighting, we go from the UH
black candle, which is for unity, then we go to
one of the red candles, which is for self determination,
and then we go to one of the green candles,
which would be for jab for Ujima, and then we

(01:28:37):
alternate red and green until we get to the seven candle,
which which of course would be for the seventh principle. Imani.
Uh So that's what the the the the canara is
the primary symbol. The seven candles are of course right

(01:28:57):
along with that canara, and they represent the principle themselves.
And that is the correct order for the lighting of
the candles, and we provide information about that, of course
on the quanta dot org website.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
Cool and if people want to pick up the set
of candles, do you also explain the colors of what
they represent or did you say that yes.

Speaker 7 (01:29:19):
Well I didn't, I didn't speak to the red and
the green. The black, of course represents the people. The
red is symbolic for the struggle that we must engage
and have been engaging. And then the green represents the good,
the hope and the promise that comes to us as
people black people from engaging in that struggle. So that's
what the that's what the colors represent, all right, the.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
Red, green, and black. Family. Got any questions about Kwanza,
This is a person you need to pose those questions to.
His name is brother Sujah, Brother Suja is with the
Afghan Restoration Project based in San Diego and to do
this every year. If any questions at all about Quanta,
this is the person you need to pose those questions
to listen when we come back, though, tell us the
role of the chill because you mentioned it was actually
a child that sort of triggered I guess in this

(01:30:06):
decision to ask about Christmas and presents that helped start
the quandts of celebration. Are there anything special during these
celebrations that are for our children? If you could address
that when we get back, I't appreciate it, but we
got to check the traffic of weather in our different
cities or three minutes away from the top of the
out family, you'd like to speak to Brother Sujah, reach
out to us at eight hundred four to five zero

(01:30:26):
seventy eight seventy six and we'll take a phone calls
after the trafficking weather that's next and Grand Rising family,
thanks for staying with us on this Wednesday morning. It's
a hump day. That means we're halfway through the work
week with our guest, the Brother Sujah from San Diego's
part of the African Restoration Project, giving us all this
information about quanse. You got a question, you can reach
them at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy

(01:30:48):
six before we left for the traffic and weather update.
Brother Suja, we're talking about the children, so I'll let
you respond to that question and family Doctor bees on
Deck will get to him momentarily.

Speaker 7 (01:30:58):
Yes, indeed, we believe that the question that you just
asked about the children is one of the areas that
needs to be and has in terms of understanding Quansa.
And that's one of our focuses. You know, I mentioned
our Kwanza for Kids program. We are looking to reinfuse

(01:31:20):
the holiday with that fun element that was the original inspiration.
And I should mention the name of that ten year
old girl. Kinamo Domo k I n a m O
Domo d a m U was the name of the
ten year old girl who inspired the creation of the holiday.
And what I mean by that is that in asking

(01:31:40):
that question about how Africans celebrate the holidays, she inspired
doctor Kurenga and the other adults to put together a
research committee where they went to Los Angeles area libraries
and did research on different African holidays from different cultural
traditions and pulls drew from that the information that was

(01:32:03):
used to build the Quansa hol Hoday. So we believe
that that focus on children needs to be in hand.
So we have a Quanta for Kids program that we've
developed where we're trying to do exactly that. And if
you go to our Quansa dot org website or to
our Nguzosaba three sixty five dot org website, you can

(01:32:26):
access our Quants of Kids program where we have put
together a series of things to try to enhance that
fun quotient for the children. We have a series of
downloadable activities that can be downloaded and used in the home.
We have some online games, interactive games, puzzles, coloring activities

(01:32:51):
that are on We have craft activities for the children,
videos instructional videos up there for guiding children in the
process of creating arts and crafts around the holiday. We
have aspirations for story telling sessions. We were actually trying
to put together a program for this year that will

(01:33:13):
work off for next year where Kinamo Damo and her
brother Karama, who was also involved in the first Kwanza,
would be involved in some storytelling activities with the children.
We didn't get to pull that together this year, but
that is an objective for us for next year, and
we're always looking for new ways to add fun to

(01:33:36):
the occasion for children, so we'll build on what we've
already established. But if you go to Quanta dot org
right now and click on the Quansas for Kids link
or tab, you would see what we have currently available
as offerings for that fund coaching for Kids, with the
intent to add more to it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
Let me ask you this, for the folks around the
country want to follow and watch this, it's just going
to be a live streamed any of the events.

Speaker 7 (01:34:02):
Our Our event on the twenty eighth is an online
event and you can find information about it access on
our Coonsa dot org website. I'm not sure about the
event at the Charles Wright Museum. I do expect that
it will be live streamed. I just haven't I haven't

(01:34:23):
been provided with the information yet for that. But we
will be making all of this information available on our
website under events, so the audience can go to the
CORNSA dot org website under events and be able to
find information for accessing all of those events that can
be accessed online.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
All right, thank you, brother Suja thank you for sharing
this information about conser with us this morning.

Speaker 7 (01:34:51):
Thank you so much for having me, brother Carl. It's
a pleasure all right.

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
Family shicks out that top was bringing doctor B. He's online,
one grand rising Doctor B. Welcome back to the program.

Speaker 6 (01:35:02):
Good day man.

Speaker 5 (01:35:03):
It's an honor to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
It's always an honor to speak with you, doctor B.
Families are metaphysicians, also mastered herbalist. That you got questions
anything about to do with any of those issues, this
is the person you need to talk to. And again
the phone number to speak to doctor B's eight hundred
four or five zero seventy eight seventy six. It's not
doctor B with it's coming up on the Sunday, the
winter solstice. What should we know about the winter solstice?

Speaker 5 (01:35:28):
Well, the winter solstice is when the sun is at
its lowest level in the sky. So as we move
through the months in the seasons, the sky looks different.
The sun is in different positions. Now the Sun hasn't
really changed its position, but the planet Earth has changed

(01:35:52):
its angle on the axis. Because you know, the Earth wobbles,
and that wobble is what causes the seasons. So as
the Earth is spinning the sun is as it's spinning
on those axises, it changes the season based on how
we see the sun. So in ancient times, when this

(01:36:14):
particular time came in the northern hemisphere, it looked as
if the sun stopped on the solstice, which means sun
soul with sun spaces, stops or spaces, it doesn't look
like it's moving. And when it doesn't look like it's
moving or it doesn't look like it's you know, continuing

(01:36:36):
its journey through the sky the way it was, they
say the sun stopped, and a lot of the people
were like, well this is this is you know, if
the sun stays in that position, we could not exist.
So their thing was to look at that sun and
during that time, which is the shortest day of the year, pray, meditate,
or do whatever rituals or ceremonies that need to be

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done to recognize the sun has stopped and have a
idea or an imagination or a vision of it moving again.
So on the twenty first, it looks like the sun stops.
Now it's still moves from you know, from you know,
back and forth across the sky, but we're talking about
moving towards the way it hits the horizon the way

(01:37:19):
it hits the atmosphere during that time, you know this
is is this is the beginning of what they call
winter in the northern hemisphere, but in the southern hemisphere
that is also summer, so it's just the opposite. It's
a time when we should go inward and realize that
this time you have to change your rhythm, change your habits,

(01:37:44):
change what you do. It's a marker to let you
know where we are and look at who we are,
so we can begin to build again. Because as the
sun moves from the twenty first on the solstice, it
starts moving slowly higher in the sky. Three days later,

(01:38:04):
which is technically actually four and a half days later
what they call Christmas, that's when the new sun is born.
The sun is moving again, so it's basically like being reborn,
you see. So that time period, where's those three days
four days for some folks they count five. Those days

(01:38:26):
are the days when we should be realizing that our
body is changing biologically, the energy of the planet is changing,
and that we need to be ready for the next season.
So this is about preparation for the next season, and
that you know that time if you look at the
Chinese medicine calendar, you know, the way they look at it.

(01:38:48):
They say that that season, the beginning of winter is
the water element, which means that we should be drinking
a lot of water. Now, the type of water is
important because if your water does not have enough salt
in it, just a little bit of salt, then your
water does not have the right amount of energy. So

(01:39:12):
if you're drinking just water, right, just average water that
you buy or that you get from the tap, hopefully
you're not drinking that. But if you don't have a
little salt in it, then the body doesn't recognize it.
So this is the time to put a little pinch
of salt, sea salt, especially in your water. I really
like the Celtic salt because it's softer. It's called Celtic salt.

(01:39:37):
But those minerals in that water are really important during
times that start at the solstice, so that your body
can be hydrated. You know a lot of people are dehydrated,
you know, even if you're drinking a gallon of water,
because you know what they talk about, this drinking a
gallon of water thing. You know, if you drink a

(01:39:57):
gallon of water and it doesn't have an enough salt.
If it doesn't have enough electrolytes, your body doesn't recognize
it and you just pee it out and it he
doesn't use it. So it sounds good, Oh boy, drink
a lot of water, but it's not a lot of water.
It's water that has a consistency that's a little like
the ocean, because your blood has a consistency that is

(01:40:19):
kind of like the ocean. Now, you don't want to
make your water too salty, but it is important to
have a little bit of salt in that water so
that they can actually begin to flush your kidneys your bladder,
because this season is also the time to care for
your kidneys and your bladder. And keep in mind that
the organs are also associated with emotions. So the time

(01:40:43):
that we're talking about a lot of folks are feeling fear.
Fear is connected to the kidneys and the bladder. They're
fearful that it's cold outside and I don't like this season,
and people are going through stress, and then you know,
it's also letting us know that we're really crow to
this Christmas and for a lot of folks, Christmas is
very stressful, and that stress comes from the fear, the

(01:41:06):
fear of not having, not being able to give, not
having enough family or having or even sometimes just visiting
family can be stressful, you know, because we may have
changed our lives in our minds and don't associate very
well with the other people around us. So we have
to be very cognizant of the amount of water because
water is going to help balance the emotions that we

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call fear, which is connected directly to this season.

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
Yeah, let me jump here at thirteen after the time
that doctor Bay, Let's go back to Sunday. They say
Sunday is the shortest day of the year. Yeah, can
you explain that for the family? Why people like the
shelf say that the Sunday is the shortest day of
the year because everybody figures, you know, still twenty four
hours and the day or is the shortest. Can explain
that for us.

Speaker 5 (01:41:56):
Well, it is still twenty four hours, but what it
is is the shortest day, the shortest amount of light
of daylight. So if we were in Alaska, they have
times of the year where the day is like super short,
or they have all it's all day for a certain
amount of months and then it's all night. So it's
about the amount of light. It's the amount of light

(01:42:17):
hitting the planet. That light really affects us, especially if
we're melanated people, because we take light and turn it
into electricity. We are basically photo voltaic. We take light
and converted into electricity, also what they call jing or
life force, you see. And at this time we have

(01:42:40):
to also realize that because we're not getting as much light,
we need to be doing something that is going to
build up our vitamin D three and vitamin D three
is really important for your immune system and also for
your emotions. And when that light changes, when it's like
a short day or when the light is or the
sun is not in the sky as long, people get emotional.

(01:43:05):
A lot of people have that seasonal effective disorder. They
get sad around this time of year, and that's also
connected to the holiday seasons where this is when you
know a lot of people will go through stress at
this time because you know, just because they're not getting
enough sunlight, they're not getting enough vitamin B three. And
you can get a lot of vitamin D three from

(01:43:26):
eating sunflower seeds and things like avocado, and you can
also get it from coconut oil. You know, so that
helps to balance our emotions. Our emotions are connected to
the sun. We're connected to the time of day because
at different times of day we're going through different biological changes,
which affects our physiological and our psychological state of mind

(01:43:50):
or being. So it is the shortest day, that's this Sunday,
but the days begin to get longer again starting on
the twenty. You see for three days the sun stops.
The sun doesn't. It doesn't physically stop. It's just has
to do with the amount of light that's hitting the body.

(01:44:11):
And because we're connected to light in the sun so much,
that's when we sometimes feel a lot of the emotional changes.

Speaker 1 (01:44:22):
Hould that thought right there, because you gotta step aside
a few moments we come back there. I want you
to talk about Melanie. I'm sure he recall doctor Richard King.
Doctor King, doctor Richard King. We used to call him
the Melanie man is an ancestor now and I don't
think this audience have really had a person that wor
you have found anybody if to replace doctor King's where
doctor Richard King? When it comes to melanin, and if

(01:44:43):
you explain you know who has melanin? How can we
take advantage of what is melanin or really appreciate it?
Appreciate it, doctor Being and also if you can tell
us about your new book that you got coming out, family,
you want to join this conversation with doctor Base a
metaphysician is also a master herbalist. He's also a musician
ast well, very talented brother. Reach out to us at
eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six, and

(01:45:04):
well take a phone calls next and grant rising family.
Thanks for staying with us on this Wednesday morning. It's
some h day. Of course, we're halfway through the work week.
After this, it's downhill all the way. I guess this
is doctor Bae. Doctor be'es a metaphysician is also a
master herbalist. So you've got questions about anything to do
with those issues, you can reach us at eight hundred
four to five zero seventy eight seventy six. Before we

(01:45:26):
left for the break, Dr b l asking you a
question about melanie because you mentioned melanine, and I also
mentioned that one of our answers is doctor Richard King.
Back in the day, I'm sure you recall doctor Richard King.
We used to call them melanie man, and he explained
it to the family what melanin is, who has it,
how we can use it to our advantage. I hate
to put this on you, but if you could help

(01:45:46):
us out with some of that information, I really appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:45:51):
You know, melanin is the pigment in our skin. And
I used to say, you know, there's this paper bag
test and if you were darker than a paper bag,
then you have more melanin or you were considered black
or brown or highly melanated. Melanine is what takes the
sunlight and converts the sunlight into electricity, electricity or energy.

(01:46:18):
So the more melanin you have present in your skin,
the concept is the more light you pull it. Light
is also information. Melanin also is like a it's a
computer system. So you know how we have integrated circuits
now in all computers they have these icy chips and
they're all black. They are based on what a melanocite does.

(01:46:43):
A milano site is one cell or one particle or
one piece of melanin, so we're able to take light
and convert that into energy. But also melanin helps you
become more aware or more connected to your environment, so
you can feel things a lot of times before they happen.

(01:47:05):
They call it, you know, the gut feeling that connects
directly to that gut vibration that something in the environment
is changing, whether it's good, bad, or just something different.
So melanin and melanated people are usually more connected to
their environment. They may feel things first. See when you

(01:47:26):
have less melanin, right, your thing is you have to
get more information through your eyes. You got to see it.
You need actual evidence. The highly melanated people they don't
necessarily need evidence for the thing. They actually feel it.
So on an emotional level, on a spiritual level, a
lot of times we're more connected to feeling something versus

(01:47:50):
having to see it. So how can I say this?
We melanated people do much better by feeling our mindset.
How can I say this? Let me say this clearer.
We are connected to our imagination and our ability to

(01:48:10):
know something through the gut, through the feeling, through the skin.
Because the melanin is converting information at a quantum speed
about your environment, You're getting information all the time. The
issue is is that melanin also, because it's dark, holds
all energies, so anything happening in the environment it holds it.

(01:48:33):
It also helps our minds or can work against our thinking,
because it holds onto things that could be habits. Certain
when I remember when I was trying to get off chicken,
and it was the hardest thing. Chicken and sugar was
the two hardest things for me.

Speaker 6 (01:48:49):
To get off.

Speaker 5 (01:48:51):
And no matter what I kept feeling chicken, I could
hear chicken. I can smell chicken everybody just cooking it,
you know, because my melanin had been had stored the
vibration of what I was eating. Your melanin stores the
vibration of who you are. That's like a brain, it's
the skin is also called the membrane. It's the first brain,

(01:49:13):
is your skin. It's the largest organ of your body.
So it has memory and it holds on to everything
that touches it. Now, this can work for you or
against you, because if you're holding onto things, we hold
onto things like emotion, We hold on to certain things
like habits. Even like sugar really has at this is

(01:49:33):
processed sugar. Processed white and brown sugar has a deep
detrimental effect on the melanin, which affects our mindset because
the sugar begins to short circuit all neurons. So the
skin has nerves or neurons, the gut has neurons. The
brain is made of nerves or neurons, and they don't

(01:49:55):
work as well because they've been basically electrocuted the process sugar.
So for brown and black and even red people, we
sometimes struggle with this sugar habit, and that's one of
the deepest ones or the habits that we have as people.
We get into a rhythm. If you don't have as

(01:50:16):
much melanin, like they say, well, they say Caucasian people
don't have any melon. Well that's not true. It's just
that it's deeper in their bodies. So they may be
able to change and they may not feel like you
feel about things and have that you know position that
we have as you know, strong what we call strong
black melanated people. That strength can also be a weakness.

(01:50:38):
We're too strong sometimes even our language right, which can
become like a parasite because we stay stuck on talking
about the problems. We're talking about the problems because our melanin,
which has stored the fear or the anticipation of a
problem happening. So the problem may not even be happening
physically or in our environment right now now, but our

(01:51:00):
memory is strong because the memory also is in the skin.
We think that all our memory is in our brain,
it's also in the skin. So it's more of a
challenge for dark and brown people to forget or let
go or to reprocess or to reprogram certain memories. So
we stay stuck in the past, and we stay stuck

(01:51:20):
in you know, the oppressor is coming. We're always talking
about the oppressor is who's the enemy all the time.
That has a lot to do with melanin, which is
also why we have to be careful what we put
on our skin, because whatever you put on your skin
is in your blood in seventeen seconds and it affects
your melonin. If we're talking about problems all the time,
that is a habit. It's like something that you know,

(01:51:44):
we have programmed, but there's going to be a problem.
The melanine is what holds on to many of our mental,
spiritual and emotional issues. So we have to put natural
you know, we know people like we're lotion because they
don't want their skin to be ashy. You know, we
have to be careful what we use it we use
something unnatural. Right, that unnatural chemical that we're using on

(01:52:08):
our skin is affecting the melanin, which means it blocks
the power of the melanine. The melanocytes or the melanin
is connected directly to the pineal glands. The pineal gland,
which they call the seat of the soul, is if
it helps to process emotions, it helps the process. It
has knowledge beyond what we can see with our two eyes.
In fact, originally it was called the first eye because

(01:52:30):
that pineal gland can see things outside of the physical spectrum.
We see a very small amount of the light in
the color. In fact, we as people don't even we
have no idea how big the spectrum of energy is
because we can only see or perceive a small amount
of it. But between the melanin and the pineal gland,

(01:52:54):
that's what gives us knowledge beyond what we know or
what we can remember or what we learned. It has
to do with intuition, melanin the pineal gland, the way
our nervous system is set up, we can imagine anything
and make it happen. That's why they called us magical people.
This is how we create so many things that have

(01:53:15):
designed so many things out of our mind, you see.
But we also sometimes are out of our mind because
we're caught up in what happened in the past that
has to do with melanin. Melanin can hold onto everything.
So even when we're breaking these habits, we have to
be careful because the skin, the darkness of the skin,
can either help you or hinder you. Because what we're eating,

(01:53:38):
what we're thinking, what we're feeling, even how we're acting
right is connected directly to what we are remembering. I
don't know if I'm good.

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
Hey man, listen, doctor Bief. I had on applause there
out of play that applause because you nailed it. You
exactly nailed it and brought into pinealo gram our third
eye and all of that. That was what I was
looking for, because you know, after doctor Richard King passed,
we haven't had anyone who to explain that. He was
one of our regular guests back in the day, as
you know in LA and you explained about the pineal then,

(01:54:10):
so I'm glad you share that. I'm using you to
tell our audience about that. But let me ask you
this though, how Man said all of that because she says,
we maintained, we retained easier, whether it be we're addiction,
if you will, if it whether it be chocolate, coffee,
or crack or any drugs or drink. Is, how does
that work? Is that because of our melanin quoting.

Speaker 5 (01:54:35):
Yes, because we hold onto energy. See melanin is basically
let's call it black. Black holds onto things. Black absorbs energy.
It absorbs light, it needed absorbs heat. It absorbed the
energy in the environment if the environment is using these chemicals.
Because we talk about cracking drugs, but also that's a

(01:54:56):
lot of foods that basically crack you know what I'm saying,
because they those foods, especially a lot of the manufactured foods,
they have just the right amount of oil, salt in oil,
salt and sugar. They found out in nineteen seventy two

(01:55:17):
that if you combine a special there's a whole program
that they created a formula of sugar, I should say,
a formulation of sugar salt right in oil. What it
does is that programs this place called the bliss point
in the brain. The bliss point is a place where

(01:55:41):
you really like something and the dopamine right in your body,
which is responsible for some of your emotions, your you know,
feelings satisfied or happy or joyful. You know, when you
stimulate the bliss point in the brain and you do
it over and over over, that becomes your habit. So

(01:56:03):
in nineteen seventy two, there was a guy who figured
out how to make foods or put these ingredients in
foods that vibrated or excited the bliss point. So the
bliss point can be used. It can help help you
or it can work against you. But they created foods
that excited the bliss points that were made of empty calories,

(01:56:26):
Foods that were we had dyeing them, Foods that were
only there to anesthetize people or to dumb them down,
or to get them to feel less as they went through.
Because in the seventies it was about the Vietnam War.
Dick Gregory and I used to talk about this deep
and people were depressed. You had soldiers coming back, you know,
blown to pieces, and you know they weren't the same,

(01:56:48):
and they were on you know, pain medicine, and it
was like the government wasn't supporting a lot of them.
You had people in the streets or people who just
lived in the neighborhoods. They were understressed because the news
is all about the war. The war, it's all about you.
This is what they talked about, how many people died,
how we're losing the war. So the world of the

(01:57:09):
United States, the mindset was we're the pressed, We're losing
the war. So they said, well, let's give the people food.
Let's get people hooked on these foods, which gives them
instant gratification and they feel better for a little while.
But these foods were poisoned, and they they even did this.
They need these new commercials for children, pointed to your children.

(01:57:33):
They had cartoons and melodies and all of these things
in the commercial which affected the children's melanine. Check it
out now, the melanin the frequencies coming from the television
or even the radio were designed to get the people
excited and to cause a bliss experience or that caused

(01:57:54):
them to feel really good about something because music, music
affects melanine. Also, what the music you're listening to is
programming your melanie and your pineal gland and all of
your nervous system, which is why a lot of our
nervous systems are disregulated because they are not they're not
getting the natural frequency, the natural sounds that actually cause

(01:58:18):
us to be powerful. In the seventies, Carl, they decided
to target the children. You know, George Clinton had an
album America Eats Its Young in nineteen seventy two, and
this he didn't even say what it was about. He
just showed the dollar bill, right, and there was like basic,

(01:58:41):
the the basic basic, basically talking about the United States,
about money and about consumerism. And they showed a statue
of liberty eating babies.

Speaker 1 (01:58:51):
Well, this was the.

Speaker 5 (01:58:51):
Same year when they decided to eat your babies mentally.
I'm not talking about devour them in their bodies. I'm
talking about eat their mindsets, control them and turn them
into parasite or become parasitic and use the children as hosts.
And they did this marking campaign when they told the
stores that all children's food, candies, these seals, which were

(01:59:14):
really not foods at all, make them no higher than
three feet in the stores, so they were at children's
eye level, so they were at the bottom of the
shelves the children to go in the store. And I
was one too. You know, you go in the store
and you see these foods and you go crazy. You're triggered,
especially if you're darker, because you're holding on to the

(01:59:34):
vibration of the commercials, of the songs and the cartoons.
You're being programmed. The children will lose their mind and
beg their parents to get these foods, these non foods.
That began a sequence that began the children controlling the parents,
and the parents will give the children almost anything because

(01:59:54):
the children's.

Speaker 6 (01:59:54):
Going crazy, and ale number three, and you.

Speaker 5 (01:59:56):
Don't want to look bad, so you get the children
whatever they want. And the l became hooked on these cereals,
these candies, these treats, these tricks. They even had the
one one of those cereals.

Speaker 4 (02:00:07):
What was the thing?

Speaker 5 (02:00:08):
The tricks are for kids. So the children of the
seventies were being programmed at a deeper level in their melanin,
in their pineal gland, in their nervous system, to desire
and to crave things that were unnatural. Now it was
hard for them to get off it even as they
grew up, because the melon in the darkness, right, because

(02:00:30):
darkness holds onto things, light reflects things.

Speaker 4 (02:00:34):
They were hooked.

Speaker 5 (02:00:35):
We became hooked in the seventies, not only on drugs,
not only on alcohol, but also on foods that were drugs.
These are drugs masquerading as foods. In fact, Susar Jond
if you remember Susar Karl Nelson, but she had as
a book you know, of drugs masquerading as foods, and

(02:00:57):
that began I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:00:58):
Remember that about books. I let you finish up with
our sisters. Who's are when we get back. We've got
to a short break when we come back. Also talk
tell us about your book. You've got a new book
out What's eating You? And that's a question in the
title of the book, and I'll let you respond to
that as well. Family, I hope you're enjoying what doctor
B is putting down this morning. We got questions issues.
Reach out to us at eight hundred and four or

(02:01:19):
five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take all
your phone calls. Next and Grant rising, family, and thanks
for rolling with us on this Wednesday morning with our guest,
the doctor B. As I mentioned, doctor Be's a made
a physician and master herbalist, I hope you understood what
he was talking about. Talked about melanine and linking that
to the pineal Gland. This is some great information. And
if you if you've got people who think are interested

(02:01:39):
in this, please get a copy of our podcasts and
pass them on they hear what Doctor B said. I
said before we go back to let me just remind you.
Come up tomorrow. We're gonna speak with doctor Denise Turley.
Doctor Turley's gonna explain how to monetize AI. How can
you make money from artificial intelligence? People are making money
on us through AI. She's going to share with you
how you can get into the game. Also, DC activists
Diary All Mohammad will be here. He's been finding me.

(02:02:02):
He has a crusade against a crime in the Washington era.
And also chematologist Tony Browner. Tony is gonna preview his
new book and speaking about books that Dr B has
a book out that called What's Eating You? Doctor B.
Tell us about your new book.

Speaker 5 (02:02:18):
Wow. First of all, this journey started a long time ago.
In fact, I've been basically writing this book for about
thirty years. Thirty two years ago was when I first
came on your show back in Los Angeles. What was
it called in the Morning? You remember the show Front eight,

(02:02:40):
and it was you and brother Jamal that invited me on.
That was the first interview I did as doctor B
And that started a whole new life, you know, because
I come from the music world, and I began to
teach people how to take care of themselves. And in
nineteen ninety six, the same year I met Dick Grigory,

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I had a experience that happened, which I talk about
in the book, which changed my entire life. And I
talk about that in the book and about how experiences
happened for us. Sometimes they seem like they're disagreeable, and
it seemed like they're bad, But it's also considered opposition.

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Opposition means the opposite. Everything is connected to its opposite.
So if we're moving forward, right, the backward movement is
also pulling us too, which is why we need bricks
on cars and things so we can control that movement.
You know, if you go up, the down is pulling you.
White is connected to black. You see, everything is connected

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to its opposite. So this book came about when I
realized how deep we were and how we were being
consumed or hosted, becoming the host of what we call parasites. So,
as you know, I've talked about parasites for many, many years.
But the parasites that I talk about and this particular

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book are not just the physical ones that live inside
of us. The book, which is not out yet by
the way, it's not out. It's coming out in the
next couple weeks. It'll be out. But the book is
what's eating you, break free from mental, physical, and energetic parasites,
the journey from opposition to liberation. This book, wow, I mean,

(02:04:31):
it has It's blown my mind. It's been something I
was writing for myself, but I realized this is for
everyone to realize that there are energies that are going
to work against everything that you're attempting to do. And
you've got to realize that the energy that's working seems
to be working against you. Even what you call the enemy, right,

(02:04:53):
is something in you. We've got to work out ourselves
and our own salvation within us by focusing on I
won't we desire and knowing that there's going to be challenges,
it's going to be trial, there's going to be tribulations,
and in most of the books, even the Holy books,
they talk about this that you've got to work against
what they may be calling the devil. You see, which
is really just opposite, opposite energy than what you call God.

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You see. So the book is an exposa about how
to move away from the things that you've seen that
seem to be stopping you when many times these things
are actually pushing you forward. Work so you can work
through your issues. Man, This book for I actually physically

(02:05:38):
began to start writing the books seven years ago, and
it has been a crazy battle to write this book
because you know, in my childhood they said I was
dyslexic and I was slow. I even had a teacher
tell me that I was unteachable. You know, I was
always in trouble. Not in trouble like doing bad things,
but I you know, I used to get indeed to

(02:06:02):
me when I got to ask them, they said I
failed something. I said, oh no, I'm free. I don't
have to go back to that class. But I had
a lot of learning disabilities. So now here I am
writing a book. How are you going to write a book?
This is what my oppositional voice, or my uh my
security guard voice, because we all have one that kind
of almost talks us out of a lot of things.

(02:06:24):
You can't write a book, you can't complete this. You
got problems. The words are, you know, and then the
way I was writing was like in these batches of
paragraphs and they didn't go together. Words are moving around
on the pages. It was a challenge writing this book.
So this book is for anybody who's been going through
challenges in their life. Now you could say, well, it's

(02:06:46):
somebody's fault or something's fault, because we love to look at,
you know, something being you know, stopping us. You know,
we take on almost the language of being victims. We
talk a lot about the struggle and how hard it is,
but for that to be true, the opposite must be true. Also,

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it depends on our point of view. It depends on
how often we keep revisiting the disagreeable past. And if
you're talking about the disagreeable past or you're talking about
problems eighty percent of the time, then you're probably not
going to be too successful when you realize that we
have to take the issues, the problems, the trauma and
all of that and the oppression and all that we've

(02:07:27):
been through and use it as energy to project us forward,
to move past that. That's the most challenging thing. So
this book helps people move beyond what they feel is
going on into what they can create using your mind
to create almost anything. So this book, you know, it
goes far beyond the physical detoxification process. It's the spiritual

(02:07:51):
detoxification process, the mental detoxification process. You see, our mind
is shaping everything. Now I want to go back for
a minute. I talked about this, you know America Easis Young,
which is a chapter in the book. You know, the
George Clinton thing in about the seventies. This is deep
Carl Diso. When they dropped all of these projects that

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played with people's minds. New commercials, new tones, meetings get created,
new colors because you know there's these Pantone people. They
create what colors are going to be happening for what years?
They were able to take people's minds, especially in the seventies,
to another level and take people and put them under
a spell. Do you know what time they usually released

(02:08:36):
these new commercials and these new sounds and really push
it between Thanksgiving and New Year. Commercials get louder, the colors,
the songs, the things that get you feeling like, you know,
you need this stuff. You become you become hooked on television,
you become hooked on streaming, hooked on commercials, hooked on

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disagreeable and from what you also call negativity. They know
exactly how to market this stuff. I talk about this
in the book. When you realize that they did this,
nineteen seventy two was the year they really hit it hard. Right.
They knew between Thanksgiving and what you call New Year's

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They knew the position of the sun because they sold
us mostly to North Americans. Right. They knew that our
melanine bur melanin could be affected by our mindset, by
our emotions. This is that time again. If you listen
to what's being pushed, you know, even in your stream,
on your you know, if you're on social media, the

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eye moves towards what's negative or what's degreeable, disagreeable, who's
who's in trouble, who cheated on who, who went to jail?
Those stories are affecting our diet and if we eat foods,
I should say our diet, and those things are affecting
our emotions and who we are. So when you look

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at the socals, I'm gonna get back right, because all
this is about the book, what are we supposed to
be doing at this particular time? We need to be
resting more. We have to slow down more. We have
to turn off some of the social media at least
for a little while. During the day. We have to
meditate and cultivate our inner strengths because our strength is
inside of us. And if we don't believe it, and

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if our program says that we're weak and we're tore,
and we're at loss and we don't have enough, and
look at what they're doing to us, and there's an enemy,
we get weaker at this time of year, right, So
our knees and our back are affected, you know, which
is why you got to keep your knees and your
legs warm. And you know, when we age, we age
from the bottom up. When people age, they age from

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the bottom up. Their hips start going out, their knees
start going out, and they're on a walker because we
don't exercise the bottom of our body as much. And
like Dick Gregory said, we should walk. But we also
have to be very cognizant of this time and let
the emotions flow through like water, because water is the
element of this time. But if we stay stagnant and

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stay stuck, we can't move out of opposition. The book
talks about how why the opposition and disagreeable negativity is
used to programmer some of the stuff you know about
and that you're learning about every day right now that
you think is deep you can't even do anything about it.

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So if you're focusing on things you can't control all day,
then there's little time and energy in space to focus
on what you can control. We keep hearing about the
budget and that, we keep hearing about the politics, and
this stuff is being thrown at us every day. We
become mesmerized by negativity, disagreeable and things that are going

(02:11:51):
to stick to us because we have the melanine, We
have the emotional fortitude to hold on to things for
a long time. So the book talks about all of that.
How you've got to release certain toxins in your body seasonally.
Why because the seasons have a lot to do with

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our mindset, because we're connected so much to our environments.
The book talks about not only the physical parasites, but
the mental parasites. One of a mental parasite. A mental
parasite is an experience on an idea or a memory
that should be gone and in the past, but it's
alive today, using you as a host right, it's like

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a bug or like a monster. These memories become like monsters,
and they cripple you from moving forward. You have to
break free from that. You see, those things, those ideas,
those energies, actually are like parasites. So it causes us
to do a thing called self sabotage. We talk about projects.

(02:13:00):
Are we there, Carl, We're still on sure? Okay, I
guess we're here in this cooking yes, but we keep
talking about a new project, but we keep talking about
the problems of the past. You see, if we can
stay focused on the present and be in the gift
of now and you this moment to create something that's
never been created, that's when we succeed. We have to

(02:13:21):
do that. I'm not saying we could forget the past
and what was done to us, But a lot of times, kyl,
as you know, what we're doing to ourselves is much
worse than what they did to us. Because once you've
been through oppression for a long period of time, you
begin to become used to oppression, and you begin to
speak the language of oppression. And now that you may

(02:13:43):
not be actually under oppression, people begin to self oppress themselves,
self depressed repressed. So at this time of year, it's
really important to realize that there are energies and entities,
and there are things in the environment that are affecting
us that could hold us down. This book is about

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learning to break free from all of that. We get
into stories about you know, things about history. We talk
about the medical system and insurance, and how all of
these ideas are like hitchhikers and they affect us more
than anyone else because of the darkness in our skin,
because of the power of our pineal because of the

(02:14:25):
power of our imagination and our emotions. All of those
things can work for us and against us. So we
have to be careful. This book changes everything, Carl, This
book has never been a book written like this before,
and check it out. Because I am what I have
a degree in psychological kinesiology. That's you know, my specialty,

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and that has to do with how our body and
our muscles and our organs relate to our mindset. Right.
The book is written to do what they call a
subconscious alignment. When you're reading the this book is the
way to write words and language that actually can help
you or hinder you. Language is like a parasite if

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you use it in a way it can eat you alive.
Or you can break free from that language parasite and
learn the language of empowerment. In the book, we teach
you this new language, this powerful language, the way to
speak words and use the language syntax right that moves
you towards liberty. It's about the opposition from moving from

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It's about moving from opposition to liberation, becoming free in
our minds, becoming free in our actions, and even in
our relationships. We even talk about love and sexuality and
all of those things. In this book we cover a
broad spectrum of things that could eat you. They could
be devouring you. This system can eat you. It will

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devour your mindset and the vow, your creativity, your finances,
your love life, I mean even dating today. It's like
weird because the people mostly have been controlled, right, There's
been so much social conditioning at this point where people
are like they're like sheep on a farm. All you
got to do is say boo, and the sheep woo

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are bad.

Speaker 8 (02:16:20):
Bad.

Speaker 5 (02:16:21):
It's bad. Everything is bad. It's not all bad because
you can't have all bad and everything is connected. For
it to be so bad, it must also be so good.
But we have to be taught how to focus, how
to meditate, how to breathe. If you're going through a
psychological moment that could be very emotional, you have to breathe.

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If you don't breathe that moment of that time, you
begin to greeze. A lot of us are in grief cards.
We're in grief. Grief that emotion is stored in the lungs.
So how do you move through grief? It's about breathing.
There are these breathing exercises or ways of breath right

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that actually change everything just by the breathing. And when
they say breathe, breathe. If you don't breathe right, you
can't release the grief. So we release grief by talking
about it all the time, and it actually becomes more.
We're adding into the moment the past and how bad
it is. We're all going to go through what we

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call opposition. There's always going to be quote unquote the enemy.
There's always going to be somebody talking about you and
somebody that's not with you or doesn't like you. To
a winner, it doesn't matter because a winner goes into
each day, moves into each moment by seeing themselves winning

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no matter what. So for me growing up, it had
to do it. How much opposition I went through, I
went through a lot. I talk about it all in
the book. I tell the whole story, and this is
not my whole story book, but it's about how I
got to this point of realizing that it's about these
parasites and that old saying we used to say, what's
eating you, what's eating him? Something is devouring your moment,

(02:18:10):
your time, your joy, your success. And if you are
being host to nothing but problems, it's going to cause
heart disease, kidney disease, liver disease, high blood pressure, low
blood pressure. You're going to be hooked on foods, You're
gonna be hooked on disagreeable negativity, and you're always talking
about how bad it is. Well, actually, this is a

(02:18:30):
beautiful time. It is the only time that we could
break free from opposition. Right now is high hold out?

Speaker 1 (02:18:37):
All right there, Doctor Baby step aside, so our stations
can identify themselves down the line. Money Mike wants to
start to here and also got a tweet question for
you family. You two can join a conversation with doctor
b hit us up at eight hundred four five zero
seventy eight seventy six, and well take your phone calls
next and Grand Rising family, thanks for filling with us
on this Wednesday morning. I guess is doctor B. Doctor

(02:18:58):
B is a metaphysician so also herbalisten and it talks
a lot about melani And I got a tweet question
for you, Doctor BE about melon He's got a new
book out, by the way, It's called What's Eating You?
Sharing insights on how to free your body from mental, physical,
and energetic parasites. Doctor B got some folks want to
talk to you. Let's go first to Money. Mike's on
line two, calling from Baltimore, Grand Rising. Money, Mike, you

(02:19:19):
are question for a doctor B. It's money Mike there.
All right, let's go. Let's go to line three. Brother
Shaheed's in Bedstye Brooklyn, Brother Shahid grind Rising.

Speaker 9 (02:19:35):
Is money Mike Bagh.

Speaker 1 (02:19:39):
I'm not here, Money, Mic, so let's go ahead, Brother.

Speaker 9 (02:19:41):
Said, okay, Grand Rising to your Grand Rising to the guests. Uh,
Doctor B. You mentioned about the parasite and very interesting
to me and I get down with that analogy that relationship.
And you was talking about people about oppression. You said.

(02:20:02):
You said, sometimes people, when they are no longer oppressed,
they oppressed themselves. And you struck a part in me,
doctor b because I'm thinking of the relationship of Africans
in the United States. I asked myself, when was it
that the Africans here have ever not been oppressed here?

(02:20:27):
And there were? And my point is that these words
are very dangerous, as you said, the advertising putting stuff
right before children so that they can see it and
then found their parents for it. See, these words we
use are very oppressed. And there are people who I've
been noticing for decades. They say, I'm not a questioned

(02:20:51):
You oppressed if you think you oppressed, But I'm not oppressed.
And so I'm saying oppression is an objective reality for
us here in the United States. We are on a
labor force, and it is on the system to keep
us oppressed and explore our labor. So could you clarify

(02:21:14):
what you You weren't saying that we are not oppressed?

Speaker 5 (02:21:19):
Were you?

Speaker 9 (02:21:20):
Or could you clarify that for me?

Speaker 5 (02:21:21):
Please?

Speaker 9 (02:21:23):
I'll hang up and listen.

Speaker 5 (02:21:26):
Our minds create our worlds. So you take Nelson Mandela.
How long was he in prison? He came out of
prison what you would call oppression. He's locked in in
the cage for all those years. He came out with
more power when he walked out. The look on his face,

(02:21:48):
the glow that he had, the power that he created
in that seemingly terrible situation. He transformed it, He transmuted it.
He used what called inner spirit for alchemy to become
one of the most powerful figures in the world. Most
people who are really successful, they have been through extreme

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oppression or toil, or something that could be physical mental.
You know that that would break most people down. It
actually can make you stronger. I'm not saying oppression is good.
I'm saying it's always going to be there. And it's
a mindset. You see, if you have this mindset that
you can't be hurt, that you can't be touched, right,

(02:22:31):
and you are working towards your goal, it's called the tellos,
moving towards what it is you desire. No matter how
much gravity is pulling you, no matter how bad it's
been in the past, you can you that you can.
There's a story that I talk about in the book,
and it's about the nyph, the nypth becoming a dragonfly

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the nyph is the first stage of the dragonfly. How
it lives in the swampy water and it's trying to
eat everything, and everything is trying to eat it. Very
crazy life. It's just drama, right, and it's a victim
of everything. But it's also it's like a creature that's
you know, that's vicious. When it finally crawls out of
the water onto a stem, it starts and it breaks

(02:23:14):
its shell. It starts becoming a dragonfly. It has to
take the water because it's still bodies full of water, right,
the water from the swamp, the water from depression and
repression and all of that stuff and oppression. It pumps
that water into its wings, so the wings, right are
pumped based on the old idea of victimhood, and now

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it becomes victorious. So anybody, almost everybody really successful, has
been through heavy amounts of oppression.

Speaker 4 (02:23:47):
God doc, he said.

Speaker 9 (02:23:49):
Nelson Mandela used the example of Nelson Mandela in being imprisoned.
When he came out, Nelson Mandela was a fod core
rhythm lutionary. The traditions of imprisonment was no more. Uh,
it was more oppression.

Speaker 10 (02:24:09):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (02:24:10):
When he came out, he was even as president, he
was still oppressed. Look at South Africa now, the people
there are still oppressed because the system of oppression is
not an individual thing. It is in deem their global thing,
which is what white supremacy is. White supremacy is the
parasite for melanated people globally, and we must fight against it.

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And the house of white supremacy is capitalism, imperialism and colonialism.
We must ronticate that victim, that social and economic political
system from the face of the planet Earth. And we
ought to be free. There's always gonna be a struggle

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that we've talked about dialectics. Dialectic.

Speaker 1 (02:25:08):
Have we lost brother.

Speaker 5 (02:25:09):
Heed of chime in on this. Okay, let me try
them bridge, Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:25:17):
We lost it, but yeah, go ahead, doctor b respond
to what he said.

Speaker 5 (02:25:20):
Is oppressor that we will ever come against is in ourselves.
It's in our mindset and how we view things. In
the book, I get deep into how we need to
use the words of power. We're using a lot of
times these words of how hard and how And I'm

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not saying I'm not to belittling how hard it has
been for us and still is for a lot of people.
I am saying, there's a way to take that energy
and change it. Look at the most powerful Malcolm X, Martin,
Luther King, all the most powerful people, they didn't necessarily fight.
We keep calling it fight. We're fighting. Well, if you're

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fighting all the time, you're at war. And if your mindset,
if you get up early in the morning, you're fighting,
you're in battles in your own self. You have to
first free yourself so that your mind can follow. You
have to go inward and find a place of liberty
in yourself. So there's no way in the world we're
gonna all come together and fite this quote unquote oppressor

(02:26:27):
or enemy if we don't deal with the one inside ourselves.
Look at this. We want to talk about what they're
doing to us. When we sit down to eat, what
are we eating? Where does food come from? Do you
have any idea what's on your plate? Do you have
any idea of the ingredients in it that you just
purchased yourself. There's nobody at the grocery store but you.

(02:26:50):
There's nobody at the fat in the fast food line
but you. When you're there, what are you choosing? Who
are you choosing? To mate with. What is the conversation
you're choosing to have every single day. If your conversation,
if your food, if your mindset is eighty percent caught
in problems and being a victim than you are, the

(02:27:11):
biggest prison is the prison of the mind. I'm saying
that we have a chance right now that we haven't
had in a long time, because the whole planet is changing.
Did you know, I don't know if you've noticed. The
sky is different, the moon is in a different position.
The North pole that we used to know is not
even a north pole anymore. The atoms of the earth

(02:27:32):
are speeding up. The vibration of everything is happening at
another level. But at the same time, if you listen
to the news, which could be the noose, it's all
about how bad it is, and they're selling you terrible
foods and terrible even Some of this health food is
killing people. They think it's healthy. Well, who told you
this was healthy? The same people that may have caused

(02:27:54):
what you cause oppressions call oppression because we're not doing
enough research. It's about what you're eating, it's about who
you're mad, it is about what you're doing yourself. Now
you can become a more powerful course once you realize
what's eating you. Some of these things are mindsets. This
whole thing is not solid. If you look at a

(02:28:15):
piece of metal and think it's solid, but then you
get a microscope, you get one of those powerful microscope
you see, it's more space. Space is the final frontier.
Nothing is solid. We can change everything based on mindset.
This is why there's things like meditation and certain metaphysical
techniques that we can do that actually change our reality.

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We have to change it now. I'm gonna just say this.
We have been programmed to think that this dimension we
live in is it. Do you know that they've proven
that there's eleven dimensions, which means that there's eleven versions
of youth, there's eleven versions of the earth. That means
that every day, whatever choice you make, it chooses whether

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you're going to stay in the dimension, the mindset, in
the emotional space that you're in, or change. Because today
you have lots of black people and brown people and
red people that you may say everybody's oppressed or depressed,
who are actually becoming free, breaking free from the system.
You got folks that have you got more millionaires and

(02:29:22):
billionaires or people that are just healthy, people that have
a new mindset are being born every day. But we
want to look at what we don't have versus what
we do have. What do we have? If you focus
on what you don't have most of the time, then
you have less the book what's eating you? You need
to realize what's eating you. In this book, I'm telling
you it goes deeper than I wrote this book, because

(02:29:45):
I said, no one's saying this. No one said this piece.
And I remember the time, Karl, when I was on
your show years ago and Francis cres Welson called it.
Do you remember that? And I was talking about parasites.
I was talking about vibration streak with colors and she
called in and she said she didn't even talk to me.
She talked to you, Carl. She says, who is this guy?

(02:30:06):
I never heard of this man before. I need to
talk to him. He has the key. After I got
off your show, Carl, I called, you know at Francis
chres Wilson, this is one of my she wrote, this woman.
I mean, she helped you to change my life. She
calls me or I call her and she talks Florna
Howr on the phone about how I have the missing link,

(02:30:28):
and she asked me to write the second version of
isis papers with her. She said, because the piece that
you're talking about, Doctor B, no one's talking about. She says,
no one even looked at this, No one saw this before.
And Dick Gregory told me, he says, doctor B, you
have something that nobody else has right now. You're the
only one that can do this because you're combining not
only your knowledge of music, vibration and frequency, nutrition, this

(02:30:53):
thing about parasites and being able to transform our emotions.
So what I'm doing now is letting the people have
this gift what's eating you. And it's not out yet,
it'll be out the first of January, but you can
get ready for this book. And I'll be talking about
this tonight. I'm doing a Kyle Nelson after party tonight

(02:31:16):
at seven o'clock. Everybody can come as a free webcast,
So you can go to my website elevationtime dot com.
Elevationtime dot com and you go there and you'll see
the event for the night at seven pm Eastern Standard time.
And I'm going to get deeper into this subject because
we need to be celebrating right now because something has
happened that they didn't tell you about. They didn't tell

(02:31:37):
you that everything just changed, which means you have a
chance to get out of jail, out of prison. You
get a chance right now because of something happening in
the universe. So the mindset of those spinmasters who attempting
to control your mind and your emotions, they're telling you
how bad it is, and in doing things to mess

(02:31:59):
with your feelings and to erode your personal energy and
your personal power. These ideas and these commercials, in these
news programs and these stories, in this gossip, it hijacks
your thoughts and it starts your mind. It becomes a parasite.
The language right that most of us are speaking is
a parasitic language. What is a parasite? A parasite is

(02:32:22):
something that lives beside you or inside you and uses
you as a host. Right, this thing it makes inside you,
and it uses and consumes your energy. A lot of
times I'm talking to black folks and I'm listening to
them talk, and they're arguing for their own weakness. They're
arguing to be oppressed, repressed, depressed, and have enemies. So

(02:32:44):
I ask a lot of folks. A lot of times
I said, well, if your enemy and all this disagreeable
stuff disappears today, what would you do? And they stop
and they don't know what to say, because the language,
the way we eat everything is actually designed to stop you,
to slow you do because only the best are gonna
make it out of this. It's like a video game

(02:33:05):
that we don't realize that we are projecting ourselves into
these bodies, these avatars. We projected ourselves here to have
this experience. Why would we do that? Why would I
choose my family? Why would I choose to come on
the planet at this time? Because masters always look to
go in and challenge their mastery. Why would the greatest

(02:33:29):
fighter go fight again? You beat everybody? Why would you
fight again? Because people who are becoming masters are always
looking at mastery as a thing that must be overtaken.
We always a treat.

Speaker 4 (02:33:44):
What is it doing?

Speaker 5 (02:33:44):
Is got to drop its leaves?

Speaker 4 (02:33:46):
Why?

Speaker 5 (02:33:47):
Because it needs to have new leaves so it can
experience something new. It must always express itself, otherwise we
go into what's called entropy. Entropy is when you're staying
in the place you're in, your mediocre we're complaining all
the time. It's got the same issue. We keep dating
the same folks, marrying the same person. We always gravitate

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to the disagreeable information of whatever the moons is saying.
You are now dying because if you're not expanding and
changing and transmuting yourself, then you are dying. You're moving
into chaos. I'm saying to get out of chaos, you
got to create something new.

Speaker 1 (02:34:26):
We have the we got to step aside for a
few moments. If you're sure up on the response, I
appreciate it. Got a bunch of folks who want to
talk to you, and also got a tweet question for
you about Melanie family. You two can join our conversation
with doctor Base, a metaphysician master herbalist. To reach out
to us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight
to seventy six and we'll take your phone calls next

(02:34:46):
and Grand Rising family, thanks for flowing with us on
this Wednesday morning. Here with our guest. He's a metaphysician.
It's also a master heberalist. His name is doctor Be
and he's got his book that's coming out early next year.
It's called the title of the book is What's Eating
you and if you just favors just shutting up on
your questions and doctor you're showing up on the answers
to a bunch of folks who want to talk to you.
And I have some tweet questions for you I want
to get to as well. Let's go back to money.

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Mike in Baltimore's on line too, grand Rise your money, Mike,
your question for doctor B.

Speaker 11 (02:35:13):
Good morning, call good morning, doctor B. To living now
call sure, yes, yes, okay, doctor B. Are you simply
saying that where are we are a product of what
we think about? As simple as that. If you think
negative thoughts, you'll have negative life. If you think about
being sick all the time, you'll create sickness in your life.

(02:35:33):
If you think about wealth and prosperity, it's what you
think about. That's what mindset is simply about. So doctor B,
I wish you could explain to the audience one more
time what mindset simply is. And I'll take your response
to that's thank you, sir.

Speaker 5 (02:35:50):
If you believe something and you repeat that thought of
that belief every day, you become it. You become what
you think, what you believe, how you act, what you eat.
Everything is based on what you believe, you see, and
this is the and a lot of folks, this one

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is a deep one because the novel. I mean, I've
watched the news last and what if you didn't watch
the news, what if you didn't know anything about this.
We lived by a little river in a cabin. You
had no idea what was going on. That doesn't mean
that these things are not happening in a world or
a dimension. It has to do with what you think.
But because of parasites, mental, physical, and emotional parasites, they

(02:36:37):
use you as a host. It's like a trick, you see,
because you know real quick. I have been a record
producer for many years. I was a Grammy nominated. I
have gold and platinum records on my walls. I was
very successful. But guess what, do you know how much
opposition I was up against?

Speaker 12 (02:36:57):
You?

Speaker 5 (02:36:57):
Not much. I had to what you call, oh, what
you might call fight. I had to focus on what
I desired. It is not easy to make it in
this world. And you're going to be tested, and you're
going to go through trial and tribulation. Yes, it is
about your mindset, what you think and what you believe,
all right?

Speaker 1 (02:37:18):
Eight four five seventy eight seventy six, Ricks and Laurel
has a question for you about parasite. Grand Rising Rick,
you're only doctor.

Speaker 8 (02:37:24):
B morning time Rising this grand I told you Jesus
to tell you ain't doctor ban Look here, I listened
to you once before when you talk about parasites and
the movie dropped, I thought about was the original I'm
talking about the one that came out in nineteen seventy

(02:37:45):
nine called Alien the original. And when you speak of
the parasites and you're talking about how it consumes you,
and it pretty much think like you think before you
you look at that movie deeply, and that movie Yoppikoto
starting to get the other aliens, you know, then did
abundance of them. But that particular movie right there, when

(02:38:06):
you talk about parasite, I think about that movie because
that's exactly what the parasite is as far as that
movie is concerned. That alien, because it thought it had
that thinking process of you. And like you said, the
parasite thought what you thought, moved where you move, and
matter of fact, it even goes before you thought before

(02:38:27):
what you was getting ready to do. So yeah, so
I just want to give a big up to that movie.
And when you talk about the parasite, yeah, that's what
I think about Alien, and real quick, y'all heard you
when you see his space the Final Frontier. We hear
that from a star trek that just popped it by bye, doc.
But anyway, that's all I got, man. But yeah, that

(02:38:48):
the original parasite as far as that movie Alien nineteen
seventy nine with Yoppikodo. Thank you, man, Thank you for
letting me talk Carl.

Speaker 1 (02:38:57):
All right, doctor, we don't respond to anything you said.

Speaker 5 (02:39:01):
Yes, these a lot of these what you call science
science fiction movie are soft disclosure about you. Another one
is the Matrix. The more Neo thought about the enemy,
the agent, the more of them came. And if you
watch the whole thing, it's about a journey within yourself.
It's about self discovery, self disclosure. And a lot of

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us have become parasitic and we eat our own selves,
we destroy each other and ourselves. Once we break free
from that, you move from opposition to liberation.

Speaker 1 (02:39:37):
All right, let me do this a tweet. It's kind
of long, so follow me on this, doctor B. Tweeter
says Grand Rising. Doctor B, thank you for speaking on
melanin and the pineal gland, says Barba Dick Gregory used
to teach on how the winter Socie was the time
of the year between the twenty first of December and
the twenty fourth at midnight's the best time to meditate
on your designs for the coming year, and goes on

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to say because of the long night, short days, it
signaled a time to get more rest, to meditate and
plant the mental and spiritual needs in the mind of
gratitude to the Creator for your success in the past
year and your desires for the new year ahead. Are
you aware of this as it relates to the activation
of the pineal on the night of the twenty fourth
at midnight, where the pineal gland releases an oil or

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hormone that stimulates the manifestations of those intentional desires as
we sow as seeds in our minds and spirits.

Speaker 5 (02:40:28):
You say what, Yes, I studied directly with Boba Dick
Gregor getting fact even in this book he was going
to write the forward, but he decided to go to
college before he could do this because we talked a
lot about this subject. Then it's nearly not the Christmas
or the twenty fourth and the twenty fifth year. Speaking

(02:40:50):
of it's two hundred and seventy days after Good Friday.
That's when the true Christmas happens inside of where this oil,
which is called Penalene, begins to come down the chimney.
This is a deep, metaphysical, metaphorsical story. This Christmas thing

(02:41:12):
is so deep because it's not what they're telling you.
They always give you a piece of the truth in
the lie, or it's always an analogy to something, but
you've got to look deeper and learn the mathematics and
the metaphysics of the story. It is about this special
time when you become empowered by your thought process, by

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what you're eating, and you need to know what day
it is.

Speaker 9 (02:41:35):
It is.

Speaker 5 (02:41:36):
It is called Christmas Eve when Santa comes down the chimney,
but you need to know when Christmas Eve is. In fact,
this Saturday, I'm going to be in Dallas, Texas, you know,
and I'll be doing a lecture about the true Christmas
story decoding and a lot of folks again we know,
I know the formula, I know how to find the
real Christmas. It just changed this whole year, this whole time,

(02:41:59):
the whole ecosystem, the planets, the stars. Everything based on
our point of view has changed, so we have the
new calculation and you can actually go to this event
virtually if you'd like, and just go to my website
elevation time dot com and you'll see the event happening
this Saturday in Dallas, Texas, where I'll be talking about
the real Christmas and I'll also be doing an exercise

(02:42:22):
our workshop that day that's going to feed people from
everything that they have bounded, that have been stuck to
for the last year or two. Because once you know
what's binding you, what's holding you, you can break free.
So there's going to be a lecture and then there's
a workshop this Saturday.

Speaker 1 (02:42:40):
All right, twenty nine At the top there Monte is
calling from the Pentagon City War Room. He's online. Three
Gran Monte, you a question for doctor b.

Speaker 6 (02:42:48):
F Rise.

Speaker 13 (02:42:50):
My question, clely, Doctor B is a first. I want
to say, I appreciate all the information you had this morning.
Normally I listened for your medical advice. But I changed
my life real recently and I only think positive and
I got rid of a bad girlfriend. But I could
see how all my energy changed, and I could see

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how my relationships with certain people disintegrated, and I met
a new group of people who have like the common interest.
I just feel like what you said about having to
correct your mindset first and check yourself first. That's what
you have to do, because I realized how my life changed,

(02:43:32):
how I look for the positivity in every situation. First,
I just got to control my road raids in the morning,
and then I was fully you know, fully complete. That's
all I have to say.

Speaker 1 (02:43:44):
All right, thanks Monte. Doctor B want to respond to anything.

Speaker 5 (02:43:47):
He said, and quick? He said that usually listens to
my medical information. This is medical. What I'm talking about
right now is medicine. It's not just the herbs and
the food. It's mindset is how we think we have
to break free from the parasites and what's eating you.
A lot of our foods are eating us, a lot

(02:44:08):
of our ideas are eating us. They're devouring us. And
there is a code in a way to break free
from that whole system. And that's what the book is about.
What's eating met.

Speaker 1 (02:44:19):
That topic, I'll just keep go to Buffalo. Bob's waiting
for us. He's online five grand rise and Bob your
question for doctor B.

Speaker 10 (02:44:26):
Yes, sir, Blessed love I want to make sure I
have it right. It's elevation time dot Com. Yes, okay.

Speaker 3 (02:44:33):
The other thing is.

Speaker 10 (02:44:36):
Can we get the book through that particular website when
it is available? And the other question is what do
you think about the power of prayer, prayer being focused
directed intention. If we pray over those foods and pray
over our situations, what do you think of the power
of prayer.

Speaker 5 (02:44:56):
The book will be available at elevation time dot Com
beginning and the in January, but it'll also be on
Amazon so folks can grab it all over the world.
The power of prayer. There is a section of the
book where I talk about my grandmother and how she said,
never leave home without a prayer. And what this meant

(02:45:18):
to me was, don't leave home without a goal, don't
leave home without a meditation, don't leave home without your ID.
A lot of us have lost our ID, or we've
you know, had our identification stolen. You must find it
because that is everything. You're setting an intention in your
mind and those ways of information are traveling into what

(02:45:42):
they call a quantum field. And if you think something
long enough, it materializes. So that's the power of prayer
is huge.

Speaker 1 (02:45:53):
Gotcha don't love.

Speaker 5 (02:45:54):
Home without a prayer, without a meditation, without a focus,
without a goal, without a destination in your mind.

Speaker 1 (02:46:01):
Twenty eight minutes.

Speaker 10 (02:46:04):
And I agree with you wholeheartedly. People people think prayer
is a wish kind of thing. But the way I
define it, as I said, focus directed intention, that's your prayer.
Thank you, sir.

Speaker 1 (02:46:17):
All right, family, let's keep moving. Andre's reaching outdress, Andre's
in LA's on line four, Grand rising, Andre.

Speaker 6 (02:46:23):
With doctor B, Grand Grand grand rising. That was so
powerful what you just said right there, brother and doctor B.

Speaker 3 (02:46:30):
And uh, we we missed you.

Speaker 6 (02:46:32):
You were out here in l A. And and Carl,
we missed you.

Speaker 14 (02:46:35):
We miss both of y'all. This is some powerful discussion.
But I'll get right to my my my question. Uh,
doctor B, you remember me anyway? Or we had our
long sessions on Pico Boulevard at elevation time and it's
truly elevation time. My question, though, is that with this oddity, this,

(02:46:59):
this this comment or whatever it is called three I
slash at lists A T L A s H, what
energy is that bringing to us?

Speaker 4 (02:47:09):
I mean, what what's going on with that?

Speaker 12 (02:47:12):
And you're talking about parasites, you talk about aliens you
talk about all of these outside entities that influence us,
and and and all we talked about gravity, about all
of what you talk about. What is your interpretation of
this very mysterious thing called a uh, this this Atlas

(02:47:35):
thing that's coming into our atmosphere and to our solar system. Actually,
what are your thoughts, doctor b.

Speaker 5 (02:47:43):
First of all, that's the one someone is giving you
to focus on. That's an idea that has been given
to you. Think about it, what you really really might
be better focusing on. It's not just one thing right
now that's coming from other realms into this on the ancestors.

(02:48:06):
There are what you might call aliens and beings are
all coming right now to us to wake us up
from the six thousand year deep sleep. I'm gonna be
talking about that this weekend too. We have been sleep
for six thousand years, and it happens on the twenty
six thousand year calendar. We are moving through this calendar

(02:48:28):
and we go through a period what they call darkness,
where we're basically dead. We're waking up from that, but
most people still carry the energy of the Old Age.
They still have the mindset of the Old Age. So
it's about all of these things that are it's just
not that one entity they keep talking about. They're giving
you that one thing that folks are all could be aliens.

Speaker 6 (02:48:49):
We on decept of the nineteenth And it's a real
thing though, but go ahead, please continue.

Speaker 5 (02:48:57):
It's a real thing because we believe it. But there's
some other things happening at the same time that there. See,
it's always about misdirections. Get the people to focus on
this so they won't see that I am you are
on the mothership. You're in the mothership. The mothership lives
in each of us. We are everything. It's all happening

(02:49:22):
in us. Oh, this concept is so deep and wow.
And I talk about this in the book too, so
you know this is it's not what you think it
is and not what they're telling you, because what have
they ever told you?

Speaker 6 (02:49:33):
The truth isn't in adverse energy that's coming here.

Speaker 5 (02:49:38):
If you say that there is something coming to save
you in the energetic field, right, if then it becomes real.
If you're waiting on something to save you, then that's
what you do. You wait. I am saying what's being
born in each of us is the mothership principle. It's

(02:49:58):
happening right now, and this year coming right what we
call twenty twenty six is the year in the Chinese calendar,
the calendar they call it the horse, the fire horse,
the energy of the planet, and everything is moving so fast.
The vibration has changed that everything we decide and everything
we think manifests quickly. We have to ride the horse.

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We have to becoming is not anything outside more powerful
than what's inside. It's your mindset.

Speaker 1 (02:50:27):
Got you hold upoe right there, Doctor B. I've got
to step aside for our last break, and then thank
you are for your call. Eight hundred four or five
zero seventy eight to seventy six. Speak to doctor B.
He's a doctor B. He's a metaphysician, as you heard,
and also a master herbalist. And we'll take your phone
calls next and grand rising Fami. I hope you're enjoying
this conversation with doctor B. And of course if you
didn't hear all of it, please get pick up the

(02:50:48):
podcast when it's out. Eight hundred four or five zero
seventy eight seventy six to doctor B. Doctor B is
a metaphysician, he's a master herbalist. He's also got a
new book out his book the front tile of the
book what's eating You? And he answers the questions for
you eight four five zero seventy eight seventy six A game.
That's what I'm gonna call speak to him and Cosey's
calling us from Chicago. He's online. Two grand Rising and

(02:51:09):
Cossey your question for doctor.

Speaker 3 (02:51:11):
B Grand Rising and Gambo, my brothers. I wanted to
ask Tom to be I want to appeal to your
herbiller side for a second. I'm a vegetarian for about
like eleven years and I substituted meet with what I
call fate meat is meat made from process from soybeans.

(02:51:34):
And I found out about a month and a half
ago that the stuff had fido estridges in it. And
it denages your man who can make you subject to
getting breast cancer. If there are way I could remove
this stuff from my system or counters expected, I've been
slowing down on it two to three James a week now.

Speaker 5 (02:51:57):
First of all, one of the things that you would
get from red meat with iron hum Iron is very
important for feeding your cells nutrition. It transports the nutrition
that we eat to your cells. Iron is one of
the most important minerals and one of the number one

(02:52:18):
deficiencies that we have. Without iron, your system is not strong.
You don't have enough courage. Right, we have a lot
of fear when we don't have a lot of iron.
So iron it makes us strong. Now, when we start
looking at things that are like the estrogen mimicking or
estrogen producing foods, they actually begin to eliminate the power

(02:52:41):
for you to have the courage. If you don't have
enough iron, you're gonna have more estrogen. Estrogen is something
that can too much estrogen what they call estrogen dominance.
It causes cancer, it causes prostate issues, it causes fear,
It causes us to feel the powerless. So we have
to get a number of the best type of iron

(02:53:03):
in the body is called nascent iron. It's iron that's
been absorbed by plants so that your body can absorb
it correctly. That's why I created a product called iron
iron essential. You know, at elevation time we have that.
But without iron, you can't move forward to detoxify or
to even feed your system. Number two, if you have
too much estrogen mimicking chemicals, and a lot of our

(02:53:25):
foods have plastic in them or are made from soybean
type products, which actually are a type of plastic because
they make plastic from soybeets. You also have now disregulated
your nervous system, and you've actually destroyed a part of
your gut or your what you call your friendly bacteria,
your microbiome. Those foods, these artificial foods, these plant based foods,

(02:53:50):
are destroying our system. They're destroying our nervous system, our brain,
and our gut bacteria. So when they say plant based,
you think it's came from a plant, but they may
be talking about a manufacturing plant. As far as I'm concerned,
because some of these plant based foods have so many
chemicals and most of them are made from genetically modified organism.
It says it right on it. You know, some of

(02:54:11):
us might be better off going back to what we
used to eat, because that could be worse than what
we You know what I'm saying, what are you doing?
And I was there for a minute. I ate the
plant based meat, but I didn't feel good at boy,
I got sick. I stopped touching them. Now, if you're
eating food from plants, you know what I'm saying, that's
different or plants to detoxify all this stuff out of

(02:54:32):
your system. Number One, you got to fortify your irons.
Number two, you got to regulate your nervous systems. So
we have something called heaven on Earth. We need a
lot of that right now because we're so often our
nervous systems have been so you know, affected by the
environment and by you know, emotions. And number three, an
elevated total body program or what we call a total

(02:54:54):
body paracline program to get rid of the parasites. Right
there is not justify two parasites. We're talking about the
systemic parasites that live in your brain and your nerves,
and your eyes and your heart. Those are the most
dangerous parasites. So we created a program in nineteen ninety
six that begins to remove the systemic parasites, which are

(02:55:15):
very challenging to get rid of. So one iron. Two
you need something to regulate your nervous system, because your
nervous system is like your internet. And three, we must
do a detoxification program that's going to take it may
twenty eight days. You can't get rid of these systemic
parasites in a weekend or just by taking some pills
that clean to colon. So we have that at elevation

(02:55:36):
time dot com and this is the time of year.
Starting at this point is when we should be detoxified
and not waiting til the beginning of the year. But
you start now, you start when you can, because the
body is trying to get back to normal or become
what we call balance or in homeostasis, and we can't
do it. They don't have enough iron. If we have
nervous system issues, we're eating too much plastic. We're wearing

(02:55:59):
plastic within, making plastic thoughts. We have these fake ideas
about life, and we've got to get rid of the parasites.
What's eating you parasites mental, physical, spiritual, and energetic parasites.

Speaker 3 (02:56:12):
Thank you, Thank doctor B.

Speaker 1 (02:56:15):
Thanks brother and Cosey. You know, doctor B, I saw
a report are you talking about plastics? That they were
screening of blood work and they saw how much plastic
was in our bloodstream? Can you address that? Is something
you have for that? It was fascinating.

Speaker 5 (02:56:30):
That's what the elevated Total body program is about. It
has to you have to bind these things, and you
also have to have certain cyto chemicals. These are natural
chemicals that can break down bioplastic or plastic in our
system that is bound to our system. Now check this out, Carl.
So a lot of people have these parasitees ciners. I
see them all over the right, and they saw all

(02:56:50):
these clothes and these wormwood, and I take pumpkin thieves,
and I do what Grandpa and then did That may
have worked back in the day. Right now, these systemic parasites,
they have something called the biofilm. They create. A biofilm
is a protective coding so that you can't affect them
by drugs or even most herbs. And in the biofilm,
what you're finding now, Carl, is plastic microplastics. You know,

(02:57:15):
they say the average person today may be eating a
credit cause size of plastic every week because of so
many foods are they use, They infuse plastic and everything
in the processing in the making. A lot of the
foods were eating are actually plastic. So we've got to
detoxify from that. But you've got to have something that
can break down biofilm. And there's only a few known

(02:57:38):
things that can actually dissolve plastic from the body. The
biofilm plastics, and we have it in that Total body
program at Elevation Time dot Com.

Speaker 1 (02:57:48):
All right, we still got some more folks got questions
for you. Are ten away from the top of ed
Jeromes call us from Kensington and Maryland as online three
grand Rise and Jerome your question for doctor b.

Speaker 15 (02:57:59):
If grand Rise thing you talking earlier about melanine and
of absorption, and would you say that this is why
we're are more emotional people because of our melanin.

Speaker 5 (02:58:15):
Emotions are important so you can feel things happening in
your environment. Yes, emotion is not a bad thing if
you know how to regulate and use the proper emotion.
One of the things that a lot of people are
affected by is a parasite called toxoplasma. It plays with
your emotions. It is an alien parasite that's in our

(02:58:36):
brain that has us focusing on all the bad It
has us. You know, even we even get attracted to
people who think like this. The trauma mind. You know,
we love trauma. We meet people, we have these trauma
bonds because of this parasite, and we can't treat what's
good and what's best for us because our minds are
cloud and control by this parasite called toxoplasma. And it's

(02:58:58):
very challenging to get rid of this. We figured out
how to do it in nineteen ninety six.

Speaker 15 (02:59:03):
All right, thank you, all right, thank.

Speaker 1 (02:59:05):
You, doctor b Tweet question TREETD says, what type of
meals do do he think? I mean, as it's typed,
what type of meal do he think we should only
be eating? And thanks thanks to you and your guest.
That's a question.

Speaker 5 (02:59:21):
We've gotta find foods that are natural, foods that are
also that grow in our environment. Some of these foods
that are being shipped from five thousand miles away and
they're you know, you're using all of these these preservatives
and these these things, these techniques that they use to
try to get you something that looks like it's healthy,
but it's not. We've got to eat more plant based

(02:59:43):
I say, real plants, actual plants. Now some people say,
well not to be I can't just eat plants. Some
people can't eat just plants. But I'm saying, if you're
going to eat an animal, you've got to find the
natural version. There's natural meat, there's natural animals that are
going to be more healthy for us versus these terribly
hybridized crossbread. You know, domesticated is the word they use

(03:00:08):
to let you know that this is a hybrid, it's
a clone. It's not natural, and it's fed plastic. It's
said it's fed its own brains, it's fed chemicals. This
thing is deep and that's what also oppresses people. They're
food and I talk about that in the book Once
Setting you these foods and these ways of eating that
we've adopted, that we even like soul food. I mean

(03:00:31):
half of these things that you call soul foods are toxic.
They're poison. This is this is jail food. This is
oppressive food that's going to oppress your mindset and control
your emotions. Food controls emotions. So we should be eating
more natural and you're going to do a lot of research,
and the book covers this really deeply. Food that actually
feed you versus food that are eating you.

Speaker 1 (03:00:52):
You know. I want to follow up on a question
a comment that brother Monte had made earlier. He said
that his life changed when he stopped going around with
certain folks. So people have that negative energy. All of
a sudden, he dropped being around those folks, and it's
life changed. It spun around because and I guess you
didn't realize it until he dropped being around people without

(03:01:14):
negative energy. Can you address that?

Speaker 5 (03:01:17):
Yeah, because sometimes we're attracted to what we are and
what we think and what we feel, and we like
people that believe the same thing we believe. But when
you change what you're eating and you detoxify, when you
detoxify at a deep root level, it changes how you think,
It changes what you see and what's possible. And one
thing I noticed about really successful people they eat a

(03:01:38):
certain way. They're very careful. They just don't eat everything.
They don't look at the commercial and just buy that
and eat what everybody else to eat because they say
to eat it because those foods sometimes are feeding. There's
three parasites that I talk about in the book. There's
more than that, but there's three that control your mindset,
and they cause you to attract a certain group of
people because they would like to travel from person to

(03:02:00):
person to person. They're controlling our mindset. Most of our
society have been controlled by these little creatures you call parasites.
They control your mindset, so you're attracted to more disagreeable
if you think that way, if you eat that way,
and you live that way.

Speaker 4 (03:02:17):
But when you break free.

Speaker 5 (03:02:19):
Liberate yourself by liberating your body, feating your body whole foods,
you know, being doing whole activities. You break free from
this prison and you'll stop, you know, hanging out with
these people that are hanging you up and hanging you out.

Speaker 1 (03:02:32):
The bride right, another two you questions. The question says,
should we only shop at whole food stores? Foods supposed
to be much more healthy? What you mentioned the whole foods,
So I guess you know it's out there. I just
read it. Call as they got it. But he says,
are those the food that's the whole foods some people
call a whole check? Is that better for us? Doctor B.

Speaker 5 (03:02:57):
I don't care where you're shopping. You're going to have
to be very aware and do research on what to
eat because even somebody what you call health food stores
have a lot of poison in them. They have toxins
in them that you think you feel better because you
walked in a health food store. Oh my god, everything
here is healthy. No, some of them are hell foods.

(03:03:18):
There are chemicals and artificial ingredients that they're telling you
that are healthy that are not. You have to do
the research. This is what the book is going to
help you do. So you can begin to recognize what
is a living food that has electrical potential that you
could use that's going to help you on your mission. No,
I don't walk into any health food store and just
buy stuff. You know, we need to eat more of

(03:03:40):
the farmers' markets, eat what's in season, and pick things
and get your energy level to the point where you
could feel it like grandma could feel.

Speaker 4 (03:03:48):
You know.

Speaker 5 (03:03:48):
We might bring home some oranges and she takes they
take half of them back. Why she said, because you
didn't feel the energy of that orange. You didn't feel
the energy of that cabbage. Food that is vibrating at
a very special level for you. You will feel it
once you clear out the toxins. A lot of people
can't make clear decisions because they're programmed by the parasites

(03:04:10):
of this society, by oppression, by belief systems, by the
bliss points, and these food these food people are the
same people that are controlling society. So you have to
be very careful and choose. And we talk about that.

Speaker 1 (03:04:23):
Right because we goot about thirty seconds by call, just
calling the studio. I want to know is Greek yoga
safe to eat?

Speaker 5 (03:04:30):
I don't know about the Greek, cause I can't. I
don't know, you know, if it's got milk. Most black
people don't digest milk very good after the age of five,
so I'd be very careful even just choosing yogur because
somebody said that. But we're going to talk about that tonight.
But tonight we're going to have a free webcast. It's
actually going to be an after party. It's going to
be a seven pm tonight Eastern Standard times, even at

(03:04:52):
elevation time. Dot com you want to be on that
free webcast. We're going to go deeper into all these subjects.
And on Saturday, I'm going to be in Pallas, Texas,
and we're going to be going deep into the story
of Christmas and decoding that. And I'm also going to
do a special workshop for those who are ready to
go to the next level that changes everything. So that's
this Saturday in Dallas. I'm excited about that. I've never

(03:05:15):
been to Dallas, so and it'll also be an online version,
so you can when you go to get tickets, you
can get an online virtual ticket so you could be
there or you can also be there physically. But if
this is the time that we have been waiting for
and we just don't know it's here because we're waiting
for somebody to tell us. But you've got to get
deep into what's eating you. You've got to eradicate mental, physical, spiritual,

(03:05:37):
and energetic parasite. And we got to know how to
take that journey, the journey from opposition to liberation. And
this is the first time in six thousand years that
we have a huge opportunity. And I'm going to be
talking about this from now on. How to get free?

Speaker 1 (03:05:53):
All right. Love that, love that, how to get free,
that's what we need. Freedom three away from the topf Family.
We got to get out here and talk to me.
Thank you. Let's do it again when your book comes out,
so folks can get more engaged in what's in the book,
because I know what you scratch the surface.

Speaker 5 (03:06:08):
Thank you very much. And you're in the book, carlso
I got to get you a copy pretty soon.

Speaker 1 (03:06:12):
Thanks. Time to be thank you, all right, Thank you sir.
All right, family, that's it for the day. Classes dismissed.
Stay strong, stay positive, please stay healthy. We'll see you
tomorrow morning, six o'clock right here in Baltimore on ten
ten WLB. Also in the DMVA on fourteen fifty wol

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