Dr. Kmt Schockley on Combating the School-to-Prison Pipeline & Dr. Heru on Cancer Protocol

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And grand Rising family in thanks for starting your week
with us this Columbus State twenty twenty five. Later, educator Hey,
doctor Keemick Shockley will be in our classroom. Doctor Sharkley
is also a film producer, will share valuable insights on
how to avoid the school to prison pipeline. But before
doctor Sharkley, Chicago community activist Richard Wallace from the Equity

(00:22):
and Transformation Transformation Group will detail their reaction to the
Trump Administration's attempt to deploy troops Honey City streets momentarily holistic.
Doctor Heru will join us. But let's get Kevin to
open the classroom doors. We got class on a holiday,
Kevin grand Rising.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, class is the second cousin to cool or style,
isn't it.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, Your class is a second cousin to style. That's it.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
And you've got style, my man. And how are you feeling,
Kyle Nelson?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I'm still learning, and I know I'm going to learn
a lot from doctor Heru coming up, and also from
doctor Kemmick Sharkley as well.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yes, and indeed as well.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
As you've got to take action on everything that you learn,
make sure you take action, take notes at least and
use it somehow, you know, on a daily basis is
a way I feel about that in my humble opinion,
Hey man, But tonight is the game, the command is
the Washington Washington Commanders rather will once again be without

(01:28):
the star receiver Terry McLaurin, which just I don't know,
is that karma? You know, all of that noise he
made in the preseason, and you know now he's got
the check.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
But now you know, health is your wealth exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
You know, health is always your wealth.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
And it's usually people that don't have a lot of
money that.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Say that, right, because if you have the money, you
can buy the best to health care that's out.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
There, exactly, and you know, get the best lawyers that
help you settle a deal like this one that he's got.
So now he can sit back and you know he
doesn't have to worry about what the rest of the
Commanders will be going through tonight. Head coach Dan Quinn
ruled McLaren and fellow Ride receiver Noah Brown out for

(02:18):
tonight's game, and they will be shorthanded for a receiver.
Then there's d Bo Samuel who's been playing pretty well,
but there's a game time decision with he has a
heel injury, and so let that be a lesson as well.
You know, we're taught to do things sequentially, you know

(02:40):
ABCD and one, two, three four, and you know, I
don't know, shake before opening, you know that kind of thing,
whereas in professional sports it's not sequential. You know, if
you've got to wait until the game is about to
start before you know you're playing, how prepared do you
have have to be?

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Girl?

Speaker 3 (03:01):
What kind of mental toughness is that?

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Right? But you know what's inestramat tonight's game, it's sort
of a homecoming for the Bears quarterback Caleb Williams.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Caleb Williams. Yeah, Yeah, he's coming home tonight. Isn't that
going to be interesting? Playing against the home team and
hearing the.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Song that he grew up listening to?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
He was he grew up here in DC, of course,
and attended Gonzaga High School before being drafted by the
Bears only a year ago in twenty twenty four. And
other Bears players from DC include former wide receiver Josh
Morgan and former running back Cecil Turner. So they'll be

(03:47):
I don't know, they'll be.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Well, it's the matter up they're going to be watching
with Jayden and Caleb, you know, because they could have
gone to the team. Could have probably went either way.
And I'm sure Caleb probably have life to play for Washington,
his hometown team, but he ended up in Chicago. But
now he's coming home tonight. So it's gonna be interesting
because there's gonna be a lot of comparisons between both
players because they still drafted, came out of the same season,

(04:12):
if you will again now, yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
And playing at home, you know, whether you're with the
home team or you're returning to play at home. I
think it's still going to be exciting for both brothers
on the game. We're just going to make an exciting
game in and of itself. And isn't Caleb one of
the most old school names.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, that's what I thought when I heard that, right, Yeah,
it's interesting game.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
But on the other side, our friends up the road,
Kevin in Baltimore, they got some problems. Their quarterback has
been out and they lost to the Rams seventeen to
three on Sunday, and they have a buy next week,
so hopefully they'll give him some time for their quarterback
to get get healthy against for the for the following week.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, I was trying not to turn that knife on
seventeen to three. I mean, man, you know, people are
holding their heads down, but.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
You know, speaking about let me tell me speaking about
football though, Kevin. Next week, guess guess who the Washington
team playing. I guess you probably already knows. No, No,
They're playing the Cowboys. Oh that was really yeah, and
that was used to be a rivaly game, but the
Cowboys just lost on Sunday, so right, you know, takes

(05:32):
a little shet off, you know, usually coming in because
you know, there so many Cowboy fans out there, right,
and the rivalry runs deep. When it comes to playing Washington, well, there's.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Still you know, there's still the rivalry. For some reason,
we still rather see Dallas lose. We who hold up
the burgundy and gold banner there, you know, hey, look good.
In other news, the White slams Trump's perceived Nobel Peace
Prize snub as politics over peace. The President is truly

(06:11):
deeply mad and his desire for the Nobel Peace Prize
has been rejected, and he's denounced the Norwegian Nobel Committee's decision.
And so I guess he won't let Maria Karina Mochado,
he won't bring unto the White House to congratulate her
or anything, and he attacked a Norwegian committee as politicized,

(06:33):
while Norway braced itself for a potential diplomatic response and
the Nobel Committee proved they placed politics over peace.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
According to Stephen.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Cheung, a Trump aid and the White House Director of Communication,
and Trump will continue making peace deals though anyway, ending
wars and saving lives.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
He wrote, So what do you think of that? Well,
a couple of things. Once, she's a trump st too.
She's a big fan of Donald Trump, that's one. And
some people say she's take her make her acception speech
in Spanish since she's you know, he's somehow feigning an
attack on Hispanics here, that would be that would be
something else. And as we speak, Donald Trump is speaking

(07:15):
for the Israeli connected and they're lauding him for this
this deal that he made with a Moss. So we'll
see how that turns out, because that's all they're going
to hear on the news today. They've released the hostages Kevin,
so that's going to be the top news story as
as he's actually speaking. It's live all over the internet.
Trump speeding and taking his bow and a victor in

(07:35):
a victory lap. But we'll see how he works out,
because for the Palestins, they still want a two state
solution and that's not offering because Trump was the one
who moved the US embassy from tel Aviv. Tel Aviv
was was, you know, Israel's capital, fair will, and for
most purposes, people still think of tel Aviv is a capital.
The Palacinis said Jerusalem was their capital of Palestine. So
what he did he moved the US embassy to Jerusalem,

(07:59):
and that's a that's a big argument right there. But
most of all the other countries around the world, they
keep their embassies in tel Aviv. So we'll see if
that's on the table, if he's going to push them
send him back to tel Aviv and move the US
embassy back to tel Aviv. That we did that in
his first time around. So people keeping an eye on
this and see all the tangential issues that are still
a play that haven't been resolved yet.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Is it still possible that he could get the Nobel
Peace Prize before he's under the White House.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Oh yeah, he could because one of the things they said,
you know, he made his bid and it was late
because they already had made their decision. It's you know,
obviously he didn't do his homework and so know that.
But for next year, twenty twenty six, he'll be a
candidate for sure.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
His daughter in law Laura Trump said that the committed
Nobel Peace Prize Committee is suffering from Trump derangement syndrome.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Whatever, what you know what I wonder how well, let's
say when he wins, because he's an example. You know,
when the government government shut down and a lot of
the folks, we've got to talk about this too, because
they're not getting their checks. Even though today's a holiday,
it's a federal holiday. So the banks, the schools, everything's closed.
But the last time the government shut down, he said

(09:13):
it was the president's fault. Is the president has the
authority to do this, and he's blaming the president. And
guess who was the president, Barack Obama. So now you're
the president, Oh you're blaming back. Then you're blaming Barack
Obama for the shutdown. And how he could have you know,
the president's showed the blame. The president could have got
this two sides together and worked it out. Why aren't

(09:34):
you doing it now that you are the presidents? That's
the question that those people who have been furloughed. Oh
another thing too, Kevin. Some of those folks who have
been furloughed, they're going to be laid off. And some
who have been furloughed will not get a back pay
whenever the stalemate is resolved.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
And then there's also a concern that thousands, tens of
thousands of government workers have retired anyway, they took the
pre retirement idea. Eventually you won't be able to reach
anybody for services on the government level.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, and you know, we're going to talk about healthy
doctor rue and and uh. At the federal Health Department,
they laid off a bunch of folks over the weekend
and then they had to rehire them because they figured
out they can't do without them. But it's that slopping.
It's that's taking place.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
You know.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
They they fired him on Friday and Sunday they said,
oh no, it was a it's a clerical era. It
was a they blame it on a computer era. So
come back to work on Tuesday. So there's a lot
of stuff going on in the background.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Well, what about this claim that the presidents said they're
going to find they're going to identify funds to pay
the troops, and military members won't get their next paycheck,
which is scheduled to go out Wednesday. But he claims
he's finding funds somewhere.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Well, because he was getting heat. See, he wants to
be the president of law and order, so he didn't
he doesn't want to upset the troops because what what
what the Democrats said, Well, call the silver the troops
can get paid. Let's let's pay the troops and let's
let's work it out. So he says he's gonna he's
found some discretionary fund somewhere in the White House to

(11:09):
pay the troops. So he doesn't want them to be
ticked off against him. So that's what that is, because
that would be a coup for the Democrats if the
troops are against him. But that's why that move was made.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Well, I'm gonna get out of your way this Monday
Numbers Day, the thirteenth of October. It's thirteen pasted the hour,
and we've got doctor Harus then to buy He's on
top of.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
The world, Doctor Heru. How's it feel being on top
of the world this morning, grand rising.

Speaker 6 (11:39):
Yes, on top of the world is a great place
to be man.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yes, sir, that's where we all should aim to be.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Doctor Heru absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 6 (11:50):
You know, figure you have this life and it should
be the best, most legendary life that you could have lived.
And you know that's a belief that I have. You
know that everyone can take this life. You can reinvent yourself,
you can reapply yourself to the points of care that
would make you a legendary person and someone worthy of history.

(12:14):
And I think that all of us have it inside
of us. So I think people should really consider this
life you have. And you know, there's something I read
the other day and I'd like to share it with people.
Not to start focused on being a motivational speaker this morning,
but I feel great this morning. I would like to
share this perspective of people. The question that I read

(12:38):
was if someone was secretly watching you every day, would
they believe that you are trying your hardest to achieve
your goals? That's a big question.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, yeah, Kevin, I am I right. Isn't God watching us?

Speaker 3 (12:59):
God is watching?

Speaker 6 (13:00):
Yes, And if he's watching, would he believes that you're
serious about attaining your goals by your behavior and things
that you do every day right. And I think a
lot of us do fall short because a lot of
times we don't do an accurate inventory of our self,

(13:23):
our behavior, motivations. And I think every now and then
it's it's good to look back and see while I
have this life and am I maximizing it?

Speaker 5 (13:37):
Right?

Speaker 6 (13:37):
This is why health is so important. A lot of
us know that we're doing things that we shouldn't be
doing when it comes to our health. We're eating foods
we shouldn't be eating. You know, people tuning into shows.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Like hopefully we have a lost doctor here Rue, but
he's right on the money, Kevin, and she can get
him back. Because you know if people when you do
things and you know that God's watching you, would you lie?
Would you steal? And know that somebody's watching you? And
at some point that that brings in the question about karma,

(14:09):
because you know, what you do comes back at you.
Sometimes it comes back two and threefold, or sometimes you
wonder why something happened to you, but you don't recognize
what you did to deserve it, because you don't think
you deserve You don't connect the dots and I think
this is where doctor Heru is coming because sometimes it
affects you health wise. You know, you wonder why did

(14:30):
they throw this on me? You know, how come I
got this? You know, it's just you know, it's like
a game of cards and you've got a bad hand. No,
you probably said something that you did or something that
All right, doctor Heru, explain that you know this is
interesting that you're talking about before we get the health issue,
becase we've caught about a break. But I'll tell you.

(14:51):
I'll let you finish on the other side of the break,
because does this relate all to karma?

Speaker 7 (14:55):
Though?

Speaker 1 (14:56):
What you just said to us about make believe somebody
was watching you? And and I just you know, while
you call dropped, I was saying that, you know, God
is watching everything that we do. Sometimes we don't think
God is watching because you can't see him and you
can't feel him, you can't touch him. But you go
out there and do something that's inappropriate, and then something
happens to you and you wonder why it happens to you,

(15:17):
and you mystified why it happened. And this brings in
the question of Carmeron. I'll let you address that week,
come back and then we'll talk about your protocol as well. Family,
youtubo conjoined, it's not actually waking up with us on
this Columbus Day, Monday morning. Here. You want to speak
to our guest. His name is doctor Heru. He's got
a protocol that versus cancer. Reach out to us at
eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six and

(15:39):
we'll take your phone calls next and grind rising. Family,
Thanks for waking up with us on this Indigenous People's
day some people call Columbus Day, but we know better.
We know who discovered this part of the earth, and
it wasn't him there, folks here before I guess this
doctor Heru. Doctor Heru is a holistic doctor and specifies,
really specializes, I should say in reversing answer, he's got

(16:00):
a protocol. We're going to talk about that. But Doc,
my question to you, since you started up at this
uh you know the thought that you started after this
morning about what would you do if you knew that
God or somebody's watching you do this? How does karma
work into that? Before we get to your protocol?

Speaker 6 (16:17):
Right, So, I mean karma is a philosophical world view
and it works in many different ways based on karma philosophy.
If you start looking at Indian spiritual tradition, they have
a concept of karma too, and that concept of karma

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is that, well, the life that you're living, or the
life that you're destined to it is based on the
karmic payback for a past life. And so the way
that they did that is that, so if you were
a person who is designated to live in posity because
they created a class, you're in the lower class because

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of a previous life you did something bad. And so
what that is that they reverse engineered classism, particularly for
those in the lower classes, by claiming that they must
be in a lower class because of previous activity that
they did. So what that is that it's almost like

(17:25):
a retroactive punishment and in a sense, so punishing you
for a past life. So now today you live a
bad life because of what you did in the past,
which cannot be verifiable. So that's backwards looking for a comma.
But then what if there is a frontwards looking for karma.

(17:45):
So what I mean by that is that if the
idea is that you will be rewarded for your behavior,
good or bad, what happened. If you can stack up
your karma by doing good behavior today, right, that you
engage in good things, treating people well, being nice to people,
being kind, genuous, charitable, productive in this world, well, then

(18:10):
the world may be productive for you. So if one
does believe in karma, it could be quite useful in
terms of stacking up your chips, stacking up your social
credit of karma and then to expect that the universe
will pay you back for all of the good things
that you did, all the productive things that you did.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Well, Doctor Haru, speaking of stacking then what do you
think of the idea of journaling or keeping a record
of what you eat and journaling what your thoughts are measuring?
You know what you measure you can manage. What do
you think of that?

Speaker 6 (18:47):
Yes, absolutely, I think that it gets people more engaged.
Usually when things are written down, they start to take
more form in people's minds. It crystallizes in their minds
very well. So if you think about diet and exercise
in a sense, you're stacking up health karma chips, right,

(19:08):
because the more that you exercise, the more you start
seeing the universe pay you back, and a better physique
and better health outcomes the more you stack up dietary
points of staying away from foods that would be deleterious
to your health, foods that would cause inflammation. Right, you're

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stacking up your health chips. Your karmic chips for health
is being stacked up every single day that you eat right,
every single day that you exercise right. And eating right
is about really two things. It's about eating the foods
that are full of nutrients, that nutrient vents, which fees

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the human body towards health and being able to heal itself,
and also refraining from foods that would be deleterious to
your health. So you have two jobs when it comes
to food. And just please understand that the food industry
had a problem and it's called a limiting factor. So
when you think about first principles thinking, you always consider

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what is the greatest limiting factor in this problem set,
And the food industry had the greatest limiting factor. And
guess what the food industry's greatest limiting factor is. It's
the fact that food gets rotten. So every time they
invest in food, it is to their business interest to

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keep food from rotting as much as possible. So what
they've done is they've created what you would call chemicalized
food or processed food. The job of this food is
not to give you nutrient, not to make you healthy.
The job of this food is to not get rotten.
Because the longer that you can keep food from getting rotten,

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the greater chance of it being bought into in the market,
sold in the market, and delivering a return on investment
for the investors of the food industry. So you had
to solve that problem. So what they do is every
year they hire chemists coming out of college PhD programs

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to tamper with food to make it longer in terms
of shelf life. But the problem with the shelf life
food these are foods that you find in the boxes
in the grocery stores that don't go bad for a
whole year. That's because this food has been chemicalized, in

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processed and the more that you eat chemicalized in process food,
the less nutrients that you were getting and the more
inflammatory agents you were getting in your food in the
forms of vegetable oils which are re used in this
processed food in the form of refined carbohydrates, which is
the outcome of this food because wheat flour has to

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be ripped of its fiber to increase the shelf life
of the food, because the fiber is the part of
the food that actually degrades and also the part of
the food that aids you in digestion and assimilation of
the food into your body. But the problem is that
when fiber has been stripped out, fiber is the part

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of the wheat that makes it brown and the bread
that makes it brown. Now you have white bread when
it's stripped from rice, when it's stripped from grains, that's
what they call refined grains, refined carbohydrates. Anytime you're eating
something that they call the fine usually ends up being white.
When it ends up being white, it is stripped of
its nutrients and the part that causes it to decay fast.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
So, doctor Haru, is there no way to take these
foods and add things to them to make them nutritious,
add some herbs or anything.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
Length great, that's a great question. So the best thing
to do would be to avoid those foods. Because here's
the health mathematical equation I have for your listening to
the listeners today, Carl. The rule of stumb is this,
the longer the shelf life your food, the shorter the

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shelf life for the human being who eats it.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Okay, well that's heavy guy.

Speaker 6 (23:24):
Yes, the longer the shelf life of your food, the
shorter the shelf life for the human being who eats it.

Speaker 8 (23:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Hold up, all right there twenty seven minutes at the
top of our family, just waking up this morning on
Indigenous People's Day or Columbus Day. I guess it's doctor Heru,
doctor who is holistic doctor and he specializes in reversing cancer. Oh,
let me just throw this in while we were having that,
while you guys had a conversation, got know for chairman
Fred because we were talking about karma. He says, the
eternal flame of doctor King's Atlanta barrel site has been vandalized,

(23:56):
and I hope they get their calma. Whoever did that
to Doctor the King's barrel site in Atlanta. So let's
you'll see that. Probably the Black newspeople will report that.
But back back again to what you're talking about now
about the shelf life. How many of our people when
they go to the stores, grocery stores, they look at
the dates. Is that a good barometer to use used

(24:18):
by this date? And can you use it after that
date or should you just ignore it.

Speaker 6 (24:24):
Yeah, let's just say that if it's in a box,
it's on a shelf, it's not being refrigerated. It has
been engineered for a long shelf life, which also means
that it is going to be deleterious to your health
because it's refined grains, refined foods, and vegetable oils which
were not meant for healing consumption. Vegetable oils were originally

(24:47):
made to be lubricant or machine industrial machine equipment. Anyone
can look this up just the history of vegetable oils
and the process of these sea eat oils being made
requires hecxanes, which are toxic. Also increases the output of

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lunolaic acid, which is responsible for causing chronic inflammation. So,
because you've got chronic information from the food that you're
eating once twice, three, four, five times a day, you're
always triggering an event where your body is trying to
adjust to a foreign invader. Because it's food that was
made in the laboratory. They have natural bodies, and so

(25:32):
we're made to eat natural foods, and so the constant
bombardment of your body of these processed foods is creating
a body imbalance, which they then call a sickness. So
what's happening is you're eating food that has no nutritional
value and then you're eating food that is actually causing
you inflammatory responses. So you've got a double whamming. You're

(25:55):
not getting nutrition what you're eating, and then what you're
eating is causing inflammation. And as we know, the majority
of diseases and with the word itis and itis is
simply Latin for inflammation. So they've let you know the
majority of diseases are inflammatory based diseases. What happens if
your whole food supply through processed foods is a cause

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of inflammation. This is why you have these diseases, heart disease, diabetes, cancer,
autoimmune diseases because they're inflammatory based diseases. Every time that
you eat these foods they are the frankin foods, foods
that are made and laboratories, they are in boxes that
last for a year long, you are causing yourself to

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go further down the path of high blood pressure, which
is inflammatory based disease. It's inflammation of the are to
your walls, diabetes, inflammation of the liver and the pancreas,
feeding yourself food that converts into sugar within twenty minutes
of digestion, and you've got the sugar running all through

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your other causing inflammation, thereby causing high blood pressure. So
if we understand these mechanisms, we start staying away from
these foods and we start eating foods that are not
in boxes and foods that are natural, made from Mother Nature.
That is the key. So what we've been able to

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see is the diet is a huge aspect of this
health puzzle that we're dealing with, and that if people
just were trained about what the right foods were and
what the bad foods were, and made to stay away
from these foods, many of these health problems would dissolve
on their own. They would be reversed on their own,

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just by having a nutritious diet devoid of processed, chemicalized foods.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Now, doctor Haru, you said, look it up, So I
looked it up.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
Right.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Vegetable oil begins six thousand years an ancient world with olives,
flex seed oil for cooking, lighting, medicine, and yes, eventually
for lubrication of machines.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
But you were saying, isn't that from nature? Though?

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Isn't that the olive from nature, the sessame, what are
your thoughts on that?

Speaker 6 (28:17):
No, so it's the processing. But people have to understand
is that when we talk about vegetable oils, they're talking
about vegetable seed oils. They are vegetables. There are oils
made vegetables that come from the fruit that are healthy,
So that would be the olive oil, that would be
palm oil, that would be coconut oil. Those are healthy
because they come from the fruit. But when it comes

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from the seed, it goes through a very extreme processing,
chemicalized procedure, and this procedure leaves the so called oil
to be toxic. So these seed oils would be corn oil,
soybean oil, sunflour seed oil, canola oil, which is rape

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seed oil. So these seed oils can be extremely dangerous
by the way that there may because it's not cold press.
So you want to look for cold pressed oil oil
that has not been made through heavy processing of the
seeds through haxane. So people should just look it up

(29:23):
vegetable oil lubricant for machine equipment. When we're talking about
that vegetableil, we're talking about the more modern refined vegetable
seed oils and not oil from the fruit of the tree.
Those are two fine distinctions.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Yeah, a guy named Rudolph.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Rudolph Diesel started experimenting with vegetable oil to use it
for engines, to fuel engines and to lubricate.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
And how is that possible?

Speaker 2 (29:49):
How is it possible that something from nature could be
turned into something that fuels an engine.

Speaker 6 (29:56):
Yeah, so right now you know diesel oil can actually
be made from coconut oil. There's actually a movie called
The Coconut Revolution. The Coconut Revolution talks about the island
of Papaout, New Guinea and where there is some type

(30:17):
of fighting against the Indonesian government which is seeking to
control pop Out New Guinea and the people of Papau
New Guinea have been cut off from a lot of
importing of goods into their island due to blockade, and
they run their cars with coconut oil. There's a way
to use vegetable oils to actually run cars through what

(30:39):
is called a desterization process. For these oils like restaurant oil,
can be converted over into diesel fuel. It's just a
scientific process called desterization. So Mother Nature can be used
for so many things you can actually use, You can
use palm oil for eesel as well, and there's palm

(31:02):
kernel oil. And I've done some of these experiments on
my own where you can actually use natural plant derivatives
from the environment to turn into oil, particularly diel oil.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Twenty five away from the top there with I guess
the holistic doctor herew. Doctor Herew has a protocol that
reverses cancer. Doctor Heru. I know we come upon a break,
but tell us how did you did you stumble on
this this protocol that you made or did you set
out to find a way to reverse cancer?

Speaker 6 (31:35):
Yeah, so you know, I have a science background, you know,
a degree in biology and also psychology, and I was
used to being in labs and doing experiments. And in
twenty twelve I came across the documentary called Run from
the Cure. Anyone can see it. You can go to

(31:57):
Rumble or any you know place online put it un
secure documentary. They have it on YouTube, and it's about
a gentleman out of Canada called Rick Simpson who had
been helping people reverse their cancer with cannabis oil. And
this documentary came out in twenty twelve. We had many
people doing testimonials. I started looking at it and saw

(32:21):
that there was research from all over the world about
cannabis and the endocannabinoid system and cancer, and I thought
that this was so fascinating and that the world should
have actually stopped. They should have been mainstream news. But
of course it was never made available to the general public.
And so I started doing experiments on extraction of cannaba

(32:45):
nooids from oil, and what I found was that there
were some problems with cannabis oil in terms of being
able to navigate the laws. Cannabis is still Schedule one
drug and also a lot of people can't handle the high.
But when you learn the mechanism and action, it is
a stimulates immune systems, white blood cells and killer T

(33:07):
cells to find cancer cells and kill them. And this
has been old.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
That's all right there, Doc. We got to step aside
and check the news, traffic, weather in a different cities
for us. Look at the news this morning. When you
come back, though, pick up that story right there. Because
is it the compromising of the immune system that leads
causes all the health challenges that we have. I'll let
you expound on that when we get back. Family. Do
you've got a question about it? A health question? Some
person you need to speak with. His name is doctor Heru.

(33:34):
He's a holistic doctor. You can reach him at eight
hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll
take your phone calls. After the news, traffic and weather.
That's next, And Grant Rising family, thanks for waking up
with us on this Monday morning, Indigenous People's Day. It's
a federal holiday. That means the schools are closed, banks
are closed, and all federal workers, if they weren't furloughed
or off there, they're really off today. Hopefully they'll get

(33:56):
paid real soon. I guess this morning is doctor Herou.
Doctor is a naturopathic doctor and he specializes in reversing cancer.
Before we go back to let me remind you come up.
Later this morning, we're gonna speak with doctor Kenmick Scharcoley.
He's an educator and also from the Equity and Transformation Group.
Richard Wallace out of Chicago's gonna join us and let
us know what he thinks about these troops that Donald

(34:17):
Trump has federalized to patrol his streets. And also late
this week we're gonna we're gonna speak with doctor Willie Wilson.
We're going to discuss the anniversary of the million Man March.
He was an integral part of that, along with doctor
Milana Kurenga. He's one of the two persons that Minister
Farcom called first when he decided to do this. In fact,
doctor Krenga wrote the manuscript for the manifesto, I should

(34:39):
say for the milliam Man March. Also Chairman Fred Hampton's
gonna join us. Chiirman Fred, just let us know that
they desecrated doctor King's eternal flame in Chicago. You know
the King Center in Chicago, there's an eternal flame right there,
and somebody went over there and knocked out the flame.
Hopefully they got cameras and we'll find out who did that.
And also the civil rights activis attorney Jerald Jones is

(34:59):
going to joints because they're trying to eliminate the nineteen
sixty five Civil Rights Rule if you will, I call it,
just call it a rule, and some people call it
the law if it's overturn it. They're going to have
oral hearings starting on Wednesday, and Darryl and his group's
going to be on Capitol Hill protesting. So if you're
in the DMV, keep you radio locked in tight on
ten ten WLB, if you're in the IF Baltimore Row,

(35:23):
if you're in the DMV though around FM ninety five
point nine and AM fourteen fifty w L. All right,
doctor Rue, you talked about the immune system. You attack
on the immune system is the fact that we should
all try to figure out a way or to fortify
our immune system so that we can stave off all
these health challenges.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
Yes, immune system is absolutely important. With the low immune system,
you're subject to opportunistic infections, you're subject to insulin resistance,
your body just goes to put you out of whack,
and all of this natural defensive mechanisms are depleted. And
so then the question is, well, what are the thing
necessary for a good immune system. It would be vitamin

(36:04):
D three plus K two. It would be magnesium, zinc, insolenium.
Those are the main things that the immune system needs.
It's not, you know, the only things that the immune
system is, but those are the main things that the
immune system needs. And most people with the immune system
weaknesses are vitamin D deficient and magnesium deficient, especially along

(36:26):
with zinc deficiency and selenium deficiency. And so we solve
for that that's why we created urban results. What we
did is that we saw that these were things that
were missing in the average person's mineral profile that is
causing a depleted immune system. And so we make our
own magnesium zinc selenium capsules for people, and we made

(36:50):
sure we add no fillers to our products, so it's
one hundred percent exactly what we say it is. And
we also have violin D three plus K two that
we made especially because we know that many of our
people are absolutely deficient.

Speaker 9 (37:04):
In these things.

Speaker 6 (37:05):
And so when you supplement with vitamin D three plus
K two magnesums in casileni and you just raise and
boost your immale system, please keep the mind. Based on
your question, Carl, the Censors for Disease Control says that
the months of December, January, and February are the highest

(37:25):
months of all caused mortality. I mean, those are the
months where the most people die of anything in everything.
And they call it flu season. But if this was
really a system that was meant to educate you, they
would let you know it's not flu season. Those months.
Those are the coldest months of the year. Those are
the months of the year with the least amount of

(37:46):
sunshine because they turn the clock black. It gets dark earlier,
you get left sunshine. It's cold, so people aren't outside
as much getting the sun from which they would be
able to get let them in d from and guess
what happened. Vitamin D levels are completely destroyed during those
winter months, and those are the months of the highest
cause mortality because people's immune systems are gone for those months.

(38:10):
They call it lack of they call it flu seasons.
There's actually lack of vitamin D season. The immune system
is completely compromised during those months. That's why most people
died during those months, not because people are walking on
ice and slipping and bumping their heads. It's actually because
people's immune systems are most completed during those winter months.
So this is very all right.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
What you're going to ask you this, that's interesting what
you just said at twelve minutes away from the top
of Does that mean though the folks who live in
the northeast will have more health challenges than people who
live in the south.

Speaker 6 (38:41):
Absolutely, you know, they've had studies, you know, just comparing
you know, black folks who you know move from tropical
places like the Caribbean or Africa into places like Europe,
particularly places like Scandinavia where you know, the winters are
long and brutal and very little sunshine, while people with

(39:04):
darker skin tend to develop rickets. Rickets is a bone
and mineral deficiency due to lack of vitamin D three.
So these health outcomes are seen within populations when people
don't get enough sunlight and have low degrees of vitamin
D is directly related with rates of cancer. Low vitamin D.

(39:27):
You know, we have studies on our website on ogoosonf
dot net where there's a study under our science section
of the website on vitamin D three and gets what
that study says called. It says that vitamin D three
levels of fifty if people would have just had vitamin
D three levels fifty nanograms from leader during COVID, the

(39:54):
death rate could have theoretically been cut to zero. The
reason is that vitamin D which they call a vitamins,
actually a hormone. That one of the things it does
in terms of just feeding your immune system the proper nutrition.
Are providing the proper nutrition for your immune system, Well

(40:14):
guess what it actually is responsible for controlling inflammation in
the respiratory system in your lungs. That's vitamin D. Vitamin
D plays a pusher role in control inflammation whether people
die was die of an inflammatory response and the lungs
due to Star's cove too. So vitamin D was an

(40:38):
important nutrient that was left out during COVID and they
actually told you to do the oppositility stay inside. They
kept people nursing homes with COVID inside when they should
have been outside receiving some light. They closed the b
to the parks, people you know, doing outdoor activities, and
told you to stay inside when people should have been
actually outside getting some light. So there's a lot of

(41:01):
work to do. There's a lot of research that was done,
and there's a lot of research done at urbal results,
particularly on this thing that we're calling cancer, finding out
that there is actually a whole body of knowledge and
research studies showing the relationship between parasites and cancer. And

(41:23):
we took it very seriously and we started seeing that
parasites and cancer feed from the same two sources. The
main source for parasites and cancer of fuel is glucose.
This is documented all throughout scientific studies. There's a great

(41:43):
book called Cancers and Metabolic disease by doctor Thomas E.
Free and he shows that all cancers only feed off
of two main things, glucose and then secondarily glutamine, and
if we shut off the glucose more times than not
that cancer dies tis the cancer will switch over to glutamine,
and you can start off glutamine with natural herbs. So

(42:06):
what we've done in Herbal Results is that we've also
because we've been getting these great results cancer reversals. Anyone
can check us out on Herbal Results dot net and
go to the testimonials page. You'll see a whole section
at the top of people from all over the world
who have reversed their cancer with Herbal Results products and
protocol and the protocols in our book. It's on our website.

(42:30):
It's called The Successful Eradication of Cancer using an Intracellular
Parasite Theory. There's a downloadable ebook. No matter where you
live in the world, you can get it and download
it immediately and have it on your phone and have
it on your laptop. In chapter three, it's the full protocol.
But before you do that, you should spend some time

(42:50):
on the testimonial page and really watch these interviews. These
are not thirty seconds, Miippet. You know these are one
hour two hour inn is with people who had cancer
ranging from prostate cancer stage three esophageal cancer where the
gentleman was given ninety days to live. Back Richardson, we

(43:13):
have liver cancer stage four with age nods. We have
that cancer expect from liver to a kidneys and different
parts of the bodies. We've gotten that reversal full reversals,
by the way, and we're talking about men like Rodney Merriwether,
The's prostate cancer reversed within two months when he tells

(43:35):
his story. We've got breast cancer reversals, we've got lung
cancer reversals, brain cancer reversals, and it just runs the gamut.
And people should really take some time and check out
what we're doing in the way of providing evidence that,
by the way, no other medical institutions actually provide that
evidence where they say this is what we've done for cancer.

(43:59):
And here there were burl of people that you can
look up, call contact and speak to them about their
cancer reversal due to our procedures or due to our intervention. Instead,
the World Health Organization is telling you that the rates
of cancer will either double or go up by seventy
percent via the year twenty fifty. They're telling you that,

(44:21):
based on their approach, cancer is going to get worse.
The rates are going to double in the next twenty
five years. What I'm telling you is that if you
start to see an increase in a disease, that means
that whatever interventions they're doing is not enough for and
not adequate. So we've looked at it do a different

(44:42):
orthodoxy of thought, and what we're saying is that we'll
look at cancer as a parasite, treating you asthmus. The
three part protocol is starving the cancer of what it
likes for fuel, which is mainly glucose. So that's changing
your diet to what is known as a ketogenic diet.
This is a diet low in carbohydrates. You eliminate process

(45:04):
carbohydrates we find carbohydrates and sugar. You eliminate vegetable oils
from your life, so you stop feeding the cancer inflammation, and.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
Then you.

Speaker 6 (45:18):
Address the immune system. You address the immune system or
supplementation of vitamin D three, K two, zink, magnesium, selenium,
and then step three you take anti parasitics of which
we developed our own olive the extract. They's been working
very well. We have people on the website who only
took all of these extract and make gotten reversus in cancer.

(45:40):
And very interestingly enough, Carlo and.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
At doctor Haruvi got tep side and get the ladies
of traffic and with them we come back. Though. Tell
us how how potent your protocol is, because you know
there's a report that that former President Joe Biden his
cancer's mathesta size since moving into his bones. At what
stage can you appro protocol help? Because could your protocol
help him? Or is he too far gone? Or is
he is it's just for stage one and two or

(46:06):
is it for stage three or four. I'll let you
explain that when we get back. Family, you two can
jump in on this conversation with our guest doctor Heru.
Reach out to us at eight hundred four five zero
seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls
after the traff and weather update that's next and Grant
rising family, thanks to waking up with us on this
Indigenous People's Day some people still call it Columbus Day.
It's a federal holiday. Schools are closed, banks are closed,

(46:29):
the all federal government's closed, so you won't be getting
any mail today. Our guess is doctor Heru. Doctor Heru
is a holistic doctor and he specializes in reversing cancer.
And so doctor Eru, I'll let you finish your thought
at first, and then we got some folks we'll talk
to you.

Speaker 6 (46:45):
Yes, Carl, can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Sure?

Speaker 6 (46:48):
Yes? So you asked, has the protocol been successful for
different stages of cancer? And the answer is yes, we've
been successful in reversing stage one to stage four cancer,
and we have the evidence on our website. Right, We're
very big on evidence, So we have the evidence on
our website. And you will see stage four cancer reversal.

(47:09):
She see about five of them on there, and I
can call the names. You can see Zach Richardson, who
was given ninety days to live with the Sofa gil cancer.
You'll see him there. You'll see Renee Dinard, who's a
recent reversal for liver cancer, stage four menistatic liver cancer.

(47:30):
She was given six months to live in February of
this year, and on August she went to see her doctor,
which was actually the date of when she was supposed
to actually be deceased, and you know, her doctor ends
up telling her your liver, your kidneys, everything looks fine,
no cancer. And she's seventy six years old and she

(47:54):
feels as young as when she was in her thirties.
And that interview was on the website, and we have
Ron Bush stage four cancer metastasized from the lungs to
the brain and too the bones and then he's cancer free.
And you know there's there's more that people can just
look on the website. Stage three prostate cancer reversal with

(48:16):
Crawford Peterson, where ninety percent of his prostate was covered
with tumors. His PSA number was one point fifty one
and within three months went down to point one. The
stage three and deometrial cancer reversal with our demetriu and
cervical cancer reversal with to be a utunde, And you

(48:37):
know that's covered and we recently Carl had a conference
called the Eradicate Conference in Atlanta this Saturday, this past Saturday,
the eleventh, and I gave electron reversing high blood pressure
and diabetes with the bonus where we had four cancer
patients who are no longer cancer patients who are free

(49:00):
from cancer and you know, did not take chemotherapy or
radiation or surgery. And they came and they told their stories.
One of them did take some chemotherapy, but she didn't
take it every day like she was supposed to. And
she had stage four cancer own her lungs with nodes
and brains. And the cancer is completely gone from her

(49:23):
lungs and ninety percent gone from her lift nodes and
we're working on the brain tumor right now. But you know,
before she started protocols, she could not breathe very well
because her lungs were riddled with tumors. Those tumors are
now gone. And she told her story, and we had,
you know, two prostate cancer reversal stories. And so what

(49:44):
we're doing for providing levels of evidence in the form
of human receipts when we give lectures. So when I
give lectures now, you know you're going to you know
more than likely have someone there present who has done
you know, my protocol for cancer high blood press or
die and they can tell their stories. And by the way,
all of our cancer patients that we had who were

(50:06):
no longer cancer patients because their cancer free also had
a high blood questioning diabetes, and they told their stories
how their doctors couldn't believe what their blood panels looked like.
After just doing the protocol for a few months, their
diabetes went away, their cancer went away, and their high
blood qusure went away.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
And they told me right there, Yeah, who I thought,
right there, because I got one of your patients calling
in from Jersey. Kwanda hope on pronouncing any name correctly.
If I'm not, I apologize, and you can, you can,
you know, just announce yourself for our listeners. But Grand Rising,
welcome to the program.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
Yeah, Green Rise. And this is quite Joe. So it's
quite Joe. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, what's up?

Speaker 6 (50:46):
Brother?

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Hey, Elie Man, Hey Man blackpastic So yeah, I wanted
to call in. Hey Ruth talked about recipts. I wanted
to have a live receipt calling. I'm one of the
Ruth's living testimonies. I'm on the site as well. Quado Tocombo,
we've had cancer, what a man, it's been two years ago.

(51:08):
I did the protocol herew all three phases. I think
it's very important, all three phases of the protocol, back of.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
It by the Quadjo So what kind of cancer was it?
When will you diagnosed?

Speaker 4 (51:18):
Sorry, I'm sorry, prostate cancer into twenty twenty three. Yeah,
twenty twenty three prostate cancer. I think it was stage one.
It didn't spread, so yeah, stage one.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
And then you started a protocol. So how soon did
he work for you? At what point did you see that, Wow,
this things are actually feeling better. This thing must be working.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
First, the first thing I started to notice, So I
dropped eighty pounds. Eighty pounds in about five months. I
think it was the first thing I started noticing, and
people started noticing me was the first thing. You know,
you look younger. What are you doing? You're aging backwards?
Was going on and stuff like that. More energetic, you know, because,

(52:05):
like her said, I was focused on the cancer, but
it was other things underlying things that when I changed
my diet and really changed my mentality towards eating, when
I started seeing direct results immediately, immediately I started seeing
results in terms of just my energy.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Well, we'll share we'll share that with us. This is
interesting to hear family this. This is one of a
doctor here's clients. So he had these a cancer survivor
if they still use that term. It's eight minutes after
the top of afagur stonch doctor herou Uh. It works
in reversing cancer and this is one of his clients
of callings from New Jersey. So, so explain, because you
said you started when you started seeing a difference when

(52:43):
you change your diet, what did you stop eating and
what did you start eating?

Speaker 4 (52:47):
Yeah, I thought I was. I thought I was eating healthy, right,
I didn't eat you know, I don't eat meat. I
haven't eaten meat for years, So I thought I was
quote unquote being healthy. But what I was doing, I
was actually eating pasta. And I was eating pastaves like
nobody's business because I thought, Okay, this is safe, I'll
eat just eat pasta and you know, but I didn't
know about the impact of the carbohydrates turning into sugar.

(53:12):
I was still eating vegetables, feed oils. I heard earlier
you talked about feet oils. We were still using feed oils.
So I'm thinking, you know, we're eating healthy. So once
I understood what actually that was happening inside my body,
I made that change. That's when I started feeling the
immediate immediate change in my bone, like I had ace
and pains in my back and my legs, and that
it just went away, just went away. So yeah, so

(53:34):
you know what.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
And that's just interesting though a brother, I thought, so, doctor,
who do we need a dietician man to kickstart the protocol?

Speaker 6 (53:43):
No, because most dieticians are trained incorrectly to trade based
on the American food pyramid. When you need it, you
need to just use Google and use your smartphone. Everyone
should learn how to use their smartphone in their smart way,
and that means that we have access to the libraries
of the world and just google ketogenic diet. Ketogenic diet

(54:07):
is the diet that you need that is not going
to feed cancer. It's very important and you can just
even google ketogenic diet and cancer. You'll see studies after
studies after studies on how that diet is a diet
that ends up starving cancer selves. And this is what
happened with brother Kojo. And so when he started doing that,

(54:28):
it started dealing with all of his metabolic problems, the
cancer part. The brother was dealing with you being overweight,
being sluggish, having you know, other issues, and that diet
part was addressed and the brother was serious. And this
is the thing is that he took it seriously. He
took the protocol extremely seriously stayed away from what he

(54:51):
needed to stay away from. In terms of the foods,
we give you list of foods you should stay away
from on our website. If you go to our instructions page,
we list those foods stay away. So those are the
foods it's causing information and the kid Jenny Diet will
tell you the foods that you can eat. But then
he also took the olive these extract you, I mean
you can talk about that a little bit of brother Kojo. Sure, sure, yeah,

(55:12):
all of the extract. But to the point I thought,
I started understanding really really what herow does in the protocol.
It is more it's more of making you understand what
you're doing. So for example, I stopped eating four or
five times a day because I understood that your body
had to fast, so all those things and that put
me to a state of ketosis. So but the extract,

(55:36):
I started off using the the regular out of the
extract three times a day, table community that a day. Additionally,
you know vitamin D talked about. I think, hey, what
you call this vitamin D six season? Not the flu season?
So I started taking vitam D with K three and
I started understanding that these things have to go with
something else. For example, turmeric has to go with black pepper,

(56:00):
and the reason, well, why that has to happen. So
once you start taking the protocol and you start taking
it serious and start understanding what's happening, it's not even
I don't even call it a diet anymore. It's kind
of life just makes sense. It's just scientifically makes sense.
And then once you start doing that, then you adapt
it as your lifestyle and you will see the benefits immediately.
Some things that you thought you were dealing with in

(56:21):
terms of cancer primarily is a result of other things
that's going on aside you abouhody, and you start seeing
impact of those changes immediately, and the cancer itself will
be addressed, you know, just as a side effect of
doing the right things.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Well, let me ask you this, eleven half the top,
that were you scared when the weight started coming off you?
Because did you think maybe something else is going on here?

Speaker 4 (56:44):
No?

Speaker 6 (56:45):
No, I.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
You know, I'm a prior service guy, so I knew
what it feels like to be in shape. So it
started feeling started feeling familiar, So I knew it wasn't
like I was sickly losing weight. I was losing to
What happens is when your body starts doing that, it
stops stop using glucose as an energy system source, and
it actually starts eating your own fat inside your body.
And you can go into that. So what happens is

(57:08):
when you go to keytoast is your body actually starts
looking for another source of energy. And what it does
it starts eating the fat away from primarily the visceral
fat around your waist. So once I started understanding what's
happening inside my body, I wasn't scared. I would have
been scared if I didn't know what was going on.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
And you mentioned that you change your diyet what what?
What did you stop eating and what did you start eating?
Break it down Instead of this scientific names, just give
us the food names.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
Yeah, definitely, So pasta pasta number one thing was pasta
out of here, white bread, anything enriched with flour, white flower,
whole wheat flour, even if it says healthy one hundred percent.
I started understanding the labels and started understanding the different
names for the same things that are the same dangerous things. Right,
So you know, you look on the back of the labels.

(57:57):
You see zu crows, you see glucose, you see fruit.
These are sugars, so sugar, the pastas, the vegetables, heat oils,
replaced it with coconut oil, as Heroy mentioned earlier. Those
those those primarily are the main things, the pastas, the sugars,
any type of sugar, and then you know the vegetables,

(58:17):
heat oils. And what did you start started eating? Started
eating once a day. I started out doing what they
call old man once a day, and then eventually I
went to I actually did a twenty day water fast,
twenty one days water with some electrolytes thrown in there,
some ginger. So I started eating just like real food,

(58:42):
going on to the actual market and getting the food
that if you don't eat it that day, it's foil.
It's as opposed to the stuff that's Heroy mentioned earlier
that has the shelf life. And once you once you,
once you know understand your your why, your how, it
becomes easier.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
So how do you feel right now? Say again, sorry,
how do you feel right now?

Speaker 6 (59:11):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (59:12):
I feel black past? I feel black past. I'll tell
you what happens is your family members, you know, people
around you that what I stopped doing. Was time to
just tell everybody. I just can people see what you do,
motive what you say. So just a couple of weeks ago,
I tell her rue this my U A family member
called me and said, hey, man, a one seed is
six point two. I said, well, that's okay, that's a number,

(59:36):
but we don't understand what we understand. You know, what
are you eating, when are you eating, how are you eating?
Are you fasting? So I started going into I'm trying
to make them understand what led to that point of
the A one seed going up and what that means
and times your body. So yeah, people, my mother, for example,
she was on met Foreman and all these other blood
freshure medicines. She's no longer taking that stuff because she's

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doing the photocols.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Well, so what did your doctor say though, because you
when they saw the results and obviously went back to
your doctor, they so.

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
Two is two? Two primarily responses. The first one was
my primary position. He's I think he's pretty progressive. Right
when I walked in, you know, he lost he was
starting he started like cursing, what the what the what
did you do? You look amazing, dude, You're killing it.
So he's uh, he's Indian, right. So we had a conversation.
He starts saying, well, in my culture, we're fast. I said,

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I guarantee that your elder is that fast, just because
fasting that benefit of that fast thing, you're seeing results.
He said, yes, absolutely. So I actually gave him the
protocol of the book we were talked about earlier. I
gave him a copy of the book and he reads it.
He reads it. Of course, you know, he's in a
situation where he has to pay bills, so he's not
going to just totally, but he is willing to listen. Now,
the other doctor that I went to, he was just like,

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that doesn't work. Uh, there's no proven studies that it works.
You have to take this, you have to take a treatment.

Speaker 10 (01:01:00):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:01:01):
I thought this guy urologist.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
I thought this guy tooth and nail. He wanted to
cut me open. They wanted to what they went straight away.
They wanted to go in and cut me open and
do all these things to me and see, my quality
of life is going to be better. I'm gonna have
to wear a diaper and all this kind of thing out.
And I'm sitting there telling them, like, are you looking
at me, do you see me? So yeah, even when he.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Looked at the results, he was telling you he still
wanted to do surgery.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah,
absolutely absolutely. I requested him to you because what people understand,
these doctors, they work for you. You tell them what you want,
They give you the advice, they give you the results,
and then you have to make a decision with your
own life what you want. Because he was denying me
to go get another MRIs. But you don't need another mr.

(01:01:48):
You need to do certainly, blah blah blah. First he
told me, don't wait six months. This was back in
December twenty twenty three. He said, you've got about six
months before this thing starts spreading, going crazy. So I
want you to get before it becomes the problems, but
your bones. I want you to get a hell of it.
So I came back in six months and now what.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Yeah, oh the thought right there, Causeuer we got to
step aside and gate take a short break and we
come away. I'll let you finish your story. Family just
joined us. I guess he's doctor Heru's a natural pantic doctor.
He verses cancer. You hear him from one of his patients,
brother Kujo, who joined us from Jersey. What are your
thoughts eight hundred and four to five zero seventy eight
seventy six. We'll take your phone calls next and Grand
Rising family, thanks for waking up with us on this

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Monday morning, this Indigenous People's Day. It's a federal holiday
that some people still call it Columbus Days. That means
all the government agencies are closed, including the post office,
and the banks are closed as well, so they won't
begin in business until tomorrow. Right now, our guess he's
doctor Heru's an atropathic doctor. He's got a protocol that
reverses cancer. And we're speaking with one of his patients,

(01:02:49):
brother Coudreu'm financially name correctly calling from New Jersey and
brother Coulture, you were telling us that your doctor, one
of your doctors who just didn't believe the results that
he saw, right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
I don't even know if it wasn't he didn't believe.
I think he was he was primarily just set in
the way because they only have four actually four trained
that they're only trained, and I think it's just a
matter of that they just don't know I think that's
a combination of you have some doctors that just don't know,
and then you have some doctors that they know, but
like I said, they have to pay bills. So I

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think it was a combination of both of those, because
you know, I offer them the same protocol book. And
I explained to him, well, because he kept saying, you know,
because you're not taking treatment, because you're not taking I said, well,
I am taking treatment. I'm not just not taking the
treatment that you want me to, I said, but so
you should be. You should be results based, not you know,
you know, not whether or not I'm taking treatment or not.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
So well, did did he prescribe you the medications to
take and you refused to take it? I'm trying to
figure out what was.

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
Understand any I didn't do any I didn't do any
any of the prescribe anything from the doctors. I didn't
do any chemo, nobody, nothing. The only thing I did do,
which was you know, in hindsight and hey, room, maybe
he can go into that is I did do the
I think it's called the biopsy with actually go in
and take a take a samples of your prostate. And
what I actually wind up understanding was that actually induced

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information in that area. So there's a lot of things
once you start understanding what's going on, and that's what
the protocol helps you understand what's going on, so you're
equipped with real knowledge that you can make real decisions on.
Now that decision is a tough decision because you have
your loved ones who are looking at you like okay,
because most people in your family are going to be
that's where the most pressure is going to come from

(01:04:37):
because they understand that's that's all they know as well.
So it's it's kind of a lonely place. But I
think that's the value of Urban results net is that
you have other members you can reach up and talk
to them on the phone. Like I talked to the
brother Crawford who had stage three. I talked to the
brother and I talked to several people who went through
it and kind of became like our own support system

(01:04:57):
because it's one thing to listen to brother Head, but
it's another thing to talk to another bug who had
to make that tough life decision at that moment at
stage three. Here I am at stage one. So yeah,
it was it was a tough It was a tough decision,
but it was something that it just it just made sense.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Well all that sorry, that's twenty four up the top there.
What about your family though, do they say do they
say you crazy? You're listening to this black man that's
telling it out he's got something that can reverse cancer,
and the white man has told you he's got a
medical degree behind his name, and he's in the white
suit and he's telling you he can save your life.
Did you get all that kind of pressure from your family?

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Not direct like that, No, not direct like that. Unfortunately,
I've been one who always been quote unquote race first
from the get go, So it was it wasn't a
shock that I didn't trust the system quote unquote, I'm
out the gate. So I've been that kind of person
for years. So it was it was not something like
out of the blue. It was kind of like expected
because I'm I researched stuff, I want to know, I

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don't want to believe. So yeah, you know, my spouse,
she was she was nervous, but she trusted me and
we came through.

Speaker 5 (01:06:07):
It and help her.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
It helped her as well. Everybody in your family will
benefit from this protocol. It's not just a person taking
a protocol. If everyone either they don't agree with you,
if they stop eating the degebel sea oils, if they
stop eating the process schools, if they start eating the
carbs and the sugar, they're gonna benefit and then themselves
they would come their own testimony.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Well, thank you for sharing your testimony with us this morning.
And it's encouraging to know that, you know, because we
talk about it quite a bit, and people are always suspicious,
you know, because many of us are still addicted to
white and instill getting the brother a chance. They're still
they still can't believe that, you know, the white man
eyes is cold, a sugar sweeter, and is water wetter.
So they're still in that stance and they place their

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life in the hands of a black person who is
n't conventional medicine is is a stretch for some people.
So brother called you. Thank you, but let me ask
thank you for sharing that with us, But let me
go back to doctor Huru though, and thank you for
joining us his money. Doctor. Who does he have to
stay on the protocol for the rest of his life now?
Is he completely cancer free or does he have to

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occasionally just to take some of the protocol just to
keep going.

Speaker 6 (01:07:21):
Well, I mean, you know, when he got his MRI scanning,
they can't see anymore. I mean he can tell you
you know, when he got his MRI scannon, they didn't
see anything. You could talk about that day and what
that felt like and how you know, communications from the
doctors and knowing that this is the path that he
took to get him these results. You're not just doing

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it to reverse this particular problem. You're looking to reverse
a lifestyle that caused the problem. So therefore it becomes
something that you do as a natural part of your life,
and things like all of these extracts to just be
seen as a dietary or just like you know, people
drink Coca cola every day. They don't think that it's

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a poison that they're drinking. Then you can drink something
like you know, all the extract or have to American
your food to have black feed oil or you know,
Nigella fativa or our genesia a new or niam or
any one of these irger antiperasitic is just the natural
part of your dietary life. So people need to start

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looking at you know, as our ancestors said, let's your
food be your medicine. Let's the medicine be your food.
But we just haven't been trained with foods are medicinal
for us. Once we start to understand that and then
start replacing those foods with the bad foods, the process foods,
you start seeing your life turn around quite quickly where

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you know you're diagnosed with you know, cancer one day
and you stick with this protocol, which is just a
changing lifestyle, and it changes your definition of what food is,
what your definition of vitamins and minerals are, and changing
your definition of what foods can help you do purges
in the form of anti parasitic cleanses regularly, which you

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know our grandmothers used to do for us. How from
those who you know are from the South, of those
from Caribbean and from Africa. You know grandmas will take
you aside and make you drink that turpentine and that
castor oil or any of these bitter herbs that are
anti parasitics. We used to do it, and we saw
worms come out of our bodies as children. For those

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who you know come from the Deep South, they know
this story. People who come from the Caribbean, they know
this story. People who come from Africa, they know this story.
But when we get to be adults, we stop doing
anti parasite cleanses because you know, we're now addicted to
the sweet taste and we don't embrace the bitter. But
all of this is turning around. And what we're doing
in herbal results is we're just from pilots more and

(01:09:55):
more data and more and more human receipts. But people
are getting the who versus and we're creating our own library,
and we're solving our problems through the concept of pug chagalia,
which is self determination. And that's what it's all about.
We are here to solve our problems because it's the
pandemic that can show us anything. If you have shown us,

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we are on our own and the Emperor wear no clothes,
so true.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Thirty minutes after the top of the family, just checking
in our guess is doctor Herou. He's a naturopathic doctor.
He's got a protocol that versus cancer. You heard one
of his patients said, testify that it's working for him.
It's now cancer free. He had prostate cancer. If you
want to join this conversation, reach out to us at
eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight seventy six.
Bob is calling us from Buffalo. He's got a question

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for You's online one grand rising. Bob, you're on with
doctor Herow.

Speaker 7 (01:10:47):
Yeah, thank you, doctor herew thank you very much for
your opening question. I think the opening question was an
important one. If someone was watching you with a testify
that you're doing things for yourself, the better yourself. My question,
you mentioned box foods, is the same thing true for
canned foods, and is the canned foods that we're eating
out of cans similar or different than the canny that

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our answer elders, ancestors are predecessors used to do with
the glass jars? Is that the same kind of canny?
That is this is the same thing about the shelf
life applied to can goods as well as box goods
that you mentioned.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
And let me add something to that as well. Doctor
before you respond to Bob's question, because now people are
talking about something cataclysmic may happen, and they're telling you
have a bug out bat well, you got to have
some rations, some sort of food in case something happens
you're not able to go to the story or the
stores are closing I have any money, How does an
answer Bob's question and tag on this what do we

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do for food? Then if that does materialize?

Speaker 6 (01:11:53):
Yeah, So you know there are some not foods leon
and you know meet falt. You know, before refrigerators or
anything takes the salt their meat as a preservative. There
are forms of natural preservatives such as lemons and limes

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to increase the preservation of food. But when you start
adding these man made chemicals, that's when you get the problems.
Now in terms of canned food versus you know, glass food.
Of course you want food in the glass. The issue
of the canned food is that what is the preservatives
that they're using on the can used to be able

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to see if they're using any conservatives. There's rule of
thumbmas that if you start seeing the birds that you
cannot pronounce in the ingredients list, then you know you've
got a chemical preservative.

Speaker 4 (01:12:49):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:12:49):
And if you've got a chemical preservatives, please understand he's
going to have some type of deuterious side effect for
you to use a man made agents that meant to
artificially spend your self life of a food. If you
start seeing a sorbic acid that is something that you
know you could be used as coming out of lemon
or live You just want to look at the ingredients.

(01:13:12):
We don't also want the good to be the enemy
of the perfect. There will be times where you need
to preserve food and you may have to use extenuating
circumstances to eat food that has been preserved. But remember
this that what you talk about what you're going to
be during emergency should not be what you're doing every

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single day. So if you were going to eat it
can food because there has been stored, that's the only thing.
If you have a sign. But if you start making
it a way of life where has these chemicals in it,
what you start doing is that you start developing a
negative health karma by stacking up chips of foods that
are inflammatory into your body. And so this is the key,

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is that you know what you do in emergency is
not what you should be doing every single day. Every
single day, we should be eating whole foods that have
not been preserved. And that is pretty much the rule
of thumb. And I would just ask people, so when
you go into a grocery store, the healthiest foods are
the ones on the outside corners of the grocery store,

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that's where the food usually is refrigerated or it's left open.
You know, when you go to the produce section, you'll
see refrigerated food. But then in the middle section is
where all the box food is. And that box food
is what you mean to worry about. That's your cookies, crackers,
all of these defined carbohydrates, and it is having a

(01:14:38):
terrible health consequence. And if people can just do a
sweep of their house and get rid of the vegetable
feed oil as a place that with coconut oil on
the signed version of coconut oil, get rid of all
of your brains, get rid of all of your breads,
get rid of your rice, get rid of your apasta.
You can feet your rice with colliflower rice. It has
no white seeing in that. You'll find it. If you're

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a diabetic and you do these things, within about two
weeks to three weeks, you'll start seeing your blood sugar
dramatically improved. You get an A one C after a month,
and we're seeing the reversal of diabetes, reversal of high
blood pressure within thirty days. We're getting on average reversal
answer within three months. I don't know if brother Kojo

(01:15:21):
is on. Are you still on brother Kodjoe?

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
No, he left us, No.

Speaker 6 (01:15:26):
He's off. Okay, Yeah, I think he did the protocol
for about three months.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
And so with mat I interrupt you here for a second.
So does the protocol work for other issues? Is because
you know you talked about diabetes, high blood pressure. What
about kidney problems folks who have all those issues? Does
he work for that as well?

Speaker 6 (01:15:46):
Yes, because most kidney problems when people are unaware of
actually side effects of high blood pressure medication, right, And
there are several studies we have on our website showing
that blood pressure medication, particularly you know those like listen
to Perl which your a prohibitors, or even losser Tan.
You can go to drugs dot com and you put

(01:16:08):
in losser Tan side effects. Loser Tans are very popular
high blood pressure medication, and you can go into side
effects and you just go down to where it says
for healthcare professionals. You just go Drugs dot Com loser
Tan side effects. You'll see comment severe long term side effects.
Click that, scroll down to healthcare professionals and you'll see

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the renal section and you'll see the ten percent of
the people who take this medication can expect to have
renal failure, it says it in the side effects listing.
You'll see also ten percent of people who take Listen
and Perl, it says in the side effects listing, will
get increased blood creating levels, which is an increased amount
of toxins that your kidney's supposed to clear. And the

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higher the number of your blood creature you work, your
kidneys are. And if that's clearly on there, it you're
creating numbers will increase when you take the centerprol. And
so when we see people who have kidney failure, Brother Carl,
the first thing we do is we ask them s
they're on high blood pressure medica. That's true, then their

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issue is the inflammation of their ar tier walls. Causing
them to take a medication they only mask the problem
and does not deal with the problem. We stop the
source of inflammation by cutting out inflammatory foods in the
form of sugar, game grains, rice, pasta, crackers, cookies, doughnuts,
cake pie, all that, fruit drinks, fruit juice drinks, and

(01:17:39):
you know, soda drinks. Cut all that out from your diet,
and then you take anti inxlammatory herbs.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
You start, yeah, because we're going to step aside and
check the news at one more time, doctor Ry. But
when we come back, you tell us what to cut out,
but help us out here. Want you cut out? What
are we going to replace it with? So that that's
the question because people listening to say, okay, I got
to stop doing and they eating this, this, this and that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
What am I?

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
What am I going to eat? So if you could
help us out instead of like saying carbohydrates just sat
bread or something, break it down that because folks don't
know they used to the regular terms. So if you
can do that, I appreciate it. Family, YouTube can join
our discussion. You got a health challenge, reach out to
us and you can speak to doctor Hereu at eight
hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six. We'll take

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your phone calls after the news. That's next and Grand
Rising family, thanks for staying with us on this Monday morning,
this Indigenous People's Day twenty twenty five. Some of you
still call it Columbus Day, federal holiday. That means no
mail today and the banks are also closed, no school
as well. Sixteen minutes away from the top of the
although where with doctor Herou is a holistic doctor. Before
we go back to the missremind you come up later

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this morning, we're gona speak with educator doctor Kemmick Shockley.
We're gonna explain how to stop the school to prison
pipeline and some other stuff we're going to talk to
him about as well. And coming up later this week,
we're going to discuss the anniversary of the Millionaire in
March with one of the two of the architects really
the first so Willie Wilson, doctor Reverend doctor Willy Wilson, Washington,
d C. And also Quanta creator doctor Malana Kreng atleast

(01:19:06):
one of the two persons first two persons that Minister
Farca called when they decided to put this on. In
fact that doctor Krenge wrote the manifesto for the Many
and Man March. They'll both be here. Also, Chairman Fred
Hampton's going to join us and activists Attorney Darryl Jones
will be here. Now that Darnel Jones is part of
a group that's going to be protesting the Supreme Court.
They have a hearing on Wednesday to overturn the overturned

(01:19:29):
the voting rights measure. So they're going to be on
Capitol Hill protest and he's going to explain to us
why anyway, we got some folks who want to talk
to doctor Heru before we do that, though, my question
to you doctor before we left the break, I'll let
you respond to that.

Speaker 6 (01:19:42):
Yeah, we were talking about foods right right, So I've
listed the foods on our website, on her results dot net,
on the instructions phases, so people who have reference to this.
He tells you foods not to eat and will also
tell you the foods to eat. So the food not
to eat and our name that I won't just say carbohydrate.

(01:20:04):
You want to stay away from your breads, particularly the
wheat based of breads. You want to stay away from that.
You want to stay away from your flowers, the white flowers,
wheat based flour. You want to stay away from spaghetti.
You want to stay away from rice. You want to
stay away from these processed food drinks they add extra

(01:20:25):
sugar to them. You want to stay away from processed grains.
This would be any grains who's been stripped of their fiber.
If it's white, you want to stay away from it.
And you want to stay away from cookies, crackers, donuts, cake,
all those types of snacks that you might eat, those

(01:20:46):
candy snacks. You want that out of your life, particularly
if you're going through this heating process, this healing process,
because all of these foods convert into sugar within about
fifteen minutes of adjusting them. And so what you've got
to do is you've got to start doing the test
where you deprive your body of sugar. If you just

(01:21:08):
deprive your body of sugar based foods or foods that
convert to sugar, you stop feeding inflammation. We know what
sugar does to our teeth, right, and our teeth is
the hardest part of our body along with our bones.
Sugar can cause teeth decay and all of these things
around cavities where you get a hole in your teeth,

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and your bones are much harder than your soft internal organs, right,
So if you can get a hole in your teeth
from sugar, what is sugar doing to your soft internal organs.
So what we're going to do is that we're going
to start taking sugar is public enemy number one. We're
going to take vegetable oil feed oils as public and
enemy number two. We're going to start facting, and we're

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going to start taking anti inflammatory herbs.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
And the right. I'm going to hold you there because
we've got a bunch of folks want to talk to you.
I want to get them on before we get out
of here, doctor, because all of those stuffs on your website. Correct. Yes,
all right, let's take some calls for you, Doc. Brenda's
reaching out to us. Some Chevroley and Marilyn, she's online
one grand rising Brenda, you're only doctor Hero.

Speaker 9 (01:22:14):
Yes.

Speaker 11 (01:22:14):
I wanted to ask about one's memory.

Speaker 6 (01:22:19):
Sure, So when we're talking about memory, what I found
is that one of the biggest causes of people to
have a lack of memory is many times these medications
that people are taken. So that's ther first thing is
that if someone's had a memory issues, ask them what
medication they're taken. The number one culprit of creating Alzheimer's

(01:22:43):
and dementia is actually dating drugs, these cholesterol lowering drugs.
They have the wrong theory on heart disease. They've been
taught that cholesterol is the cause of heart disease that
came from some faulty science from a dietitian called doctor
and cell keys. The doctor Ansell Keys came up with

(01:23:04):
the theory that cholesterol causes heart disease. There was another
doctor called doctor John you Kin who said that the
cause of heart disease was in fact to sugar. Well,
the sugar lobby came out against doctor John Yucky because
if his research became known and became popular, it would

(01:23:24):
have bankrupt the sugar industry. The sugar lobby put all
their money behind doctor Ansel Keys. Doctor Ansel Keeve ended
up getting promoted by the pharmaceutical companies, who in turn
formed drugs that would be anti cholesterol drugs, which became
a billion dollar industry. That is your statin drugs. Now,

(01:23:45):
these statin drugs, the problem with them is that they
lowered cholesterol artificially in your body. And with lower cholesterol,
you need to know what cholesterol is for cholesterol is
really the building block of your hormones, and cholesterol also
is needed by the brain to function. Now he's lower
cholesterol and people artificially and unnecessarily because the true cause

(01:24:05):
was actually sugared for heart disease. I guess what happened.
You've got low brain cholesterol and now he's got Alzheimer's dementia. Okay.
Number two cause of memory problems outside of statin drugs
and high blood pressure medications, particularly like of the load epene.
One of the side effects listens for hamloadopine. There is

(01:24:27):
loss of memory, trouble with memory. A lot of people
don't know that. Please take the pharmaceuticals that you have today.
Go to drugs dot com, put in the name of
the pharmaceutical drugs dot com, name of the pharmaceutical, and
put in side effects after it. You will see a link.
They will say comment severe long term. You click that

(01:24:48):
and read the side effects listened for the medications to
take me. Many of you will be appalled.

Speaker 4 (01:24:54):
And shock.

Speaker 6 (01:24:56):
Number two cause of memory issues. A lot of people
don't realize that Alzheimer's has another name. Alzheimer's is also
called type three diabetes. That's actually another name for Alzheimer's,
type three diabetes. Now they've told you that this Alzheimer's,
this memory issue they call it Alzheimer's, has something to

(01:25:18):
do with blood sugar. They're calling it talk to three diabetes.
And what you got is you've got inflammation of the
brain caused by high blood shiger And this is the
problem with not understanding what sugar does to the body.
It causes chronic information and when it reaches the brain
they call it Alzheimer's.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Hold that right there, because we've still got a bunch
of folks want to talk to you. Brenda, I thank
you for your call, and he's going to give out
his information before he leaves if we don't get to
speak with everybody. Nine away from the top there, Jerome's
in DC has a question for you, Doctor Herui's online
four Grand Rising, Jeromei're on with doctor Herou.

Speaker 12 (01:25:56):
Okay, Grand Rising, I have a question about your protocol.
Would your protocol work for flood cancers specifically CLL.

Speaker 6 (01:26:12):
Yeah, So we've had success with all different types of
cancers because we're dealing with the root cause, so you know,
in cases of leukemia and we have success and with
multiple mieloma as well, and these are all blood cancers,
and so what we deal is that root cause of it,
and so we don't we don't really discriminate on the

(01:26:34):
type of cancer this and please go to our website
and the interest of the callers in the time. I
know a lot of people want to talk and ask questions.
Please go to Herbo results dot net. Go to the testimonials.
You will see all types of diverse cancer testimonials. It
doesn't matter what type of cancer. We deal with the
root cause. And I'm sure that you can contact us.

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We give you more information and even more research about
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Speaker 5 (01:27:05):
Okay, okay, ruber result dot net.

Speaker 6 (01:27:09):
Correct and go to the testimonials pace first and watch
the different testimonials. Okay, you'll see this diverse cancer.

Speaker 13 (01:27:17):
All right, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
All right, stakes away from the topic. Derekson, Colorado's online
five Grand Rising. Derek, you're on with doctor herow.

Speaker 10 (01:27:29):
Oh lobido, but you have a high T count and
as is. And also I had a cousin.

Speaker 6 (01:27:37):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (01:27:37):
They he had a PSA it was four and I said, man,
you need to worry about that, and his doctor said,
well you're fine. Now his PSA has gone up to
seven and eight. Now he's been diagnosed with a constaed cancer.
I mean, what happened was this an incompetence on the
doctor or it was that this and the answered the

(01:27:59):
first too, and then they have an incompetence by the
doctor because he's inid. Anything over four ps is is uh,
you need to watch that. Now it's gone up to seven,
eight and nine.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Did you hear the first part of the question at
doctor Hero.

Speaker 6 (01:28:17):
Yeah, the first part was about the incompetence from the doctor.
Was about the first part.

Speaker 10 (01:28:22):
Now, the first part was a low libido and the
tea count but you have high tea counts And that's
the two questions and how can you resolve those? And
also the next one would be on my cousin he
had a PSA. He had he had four and then
he went up to the doctors that don't worry about it,

(01:28:43):
and then it went up to seven and eight. Now
he's got prostage cancer. Yeah, so let's answer your your
first question about lo lovito. The first thing that anybody
who tells me to have lo libido, that's all you
know about using meditate. You know, are you on any
pharmaceutical Medica's.

Speaker 6 (01:29:02):
The first one. Now, now if you're not on any medication,
any question is do you eat any soy products? You
eat flack seeds? And do you eat a lot of
chickpeas or chicken?

Speaker 10 (01:29:18):
Now, I bet I eat some chicken and I eat
what's that of them? I hate the black seed milk.
I drink that.

Speaker 6 (01:29:28):
Oh okay, here we go. See when we talk about diet,
this is very important and so but a lot of
people do not know, and I would ask you to
just you can cross check what I'm saying. Please don't
take anything I'm saying as gospel. I could be a Charlottean.
Please double check what I'm saying. I invite people to
be skeptical or at least double check what I'm saying.

(01:29:51):
And what people don't understand this is that black seed
and soy are ftal estrogen. Please fo estrogens cause an
estrogen build up in your body, and this eswergen build
up your body affects your libido in a very negative way.
You've been drinking flax seed. Actually, flat flax seed is

(01:30:12):
the most vital estrogenic plant that there is. And people
can just do a Google search for a final estrogen
food chart you will see a hold.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
I thought, right there, Doc, we got to step aside
and take another look at the traffic and weather not
different cities. When you come back out, you'll let you
pick it up on the flat seat oil and Derek's
other question as well, and Scott and Bowie has a
question for you as well. Family YouTube can join our
conversation with doctor rou Doctor Rux is a natural project
doctor got questions by health concerns. He's the man who
needs to speak to and you will take the questions

(01:30:45):
for him. After we check the traffic and weather not
different cities. That's next and Grant Rising family, thanks for
rolling with us on this Monday morning here on Indigenous
People's Day. Some people call it Columbus Day, but we
refer to as Indigenous People's Day. We still don't know
what Columbus is, but folks are here already anyway. Having
said that, though it's a federal holiday, that means the
banks are closed, and also the schools are closed as

(01:31:08):
well as all the federal offices are closed, and folks
who have problems with their jobs, well it's a day off.
Hopefully you get paid for this anyway. Two minutes after
the top, I'm gonna tell we're gonna speak with doctor Shockley.
We're going to talk about education with doctor Shockley. But
we're now speaking with doctor Henrew, doctor Herew. He's a
holistic doctor. And before we left, he had a question
from Derek out of Colorado. So, uh, doctor who, I'll

(01:31:30):
let you responds to respond to Derek's questions.

Speaker 6 (01:31:33):
Yeah, so I talked about the FLAC. Please discontinue the flack.
Know this highly fight or estrogenic. It will reflect to
libido negatively. And in terms of your I think your
cousin's situation with the prostate cancer. Yes, anything about or
seeing the danger for cancer? Could they have been neglig

(01:31:54):
And I need no more information. I don't know everything
that went down between your cousin doctors. The numbers got
bigger over time. Maybe they were monitoring it to sea
what was going to go down, But he was probably
continuing the same activities that was causing him to have
a four in the first place, which is basically beating
inflammatory foods, and his prostate is now inflamed and it

(01:32:17):
is the perfect beating breeding ground or disease which will
be the cancer and the parasites. And if he's interested,
he can definitely go to herbalsols dot net, go to
the testimonial stage. He will see a few or several
prostate cancer reversal stories, very very very poignant stories that

(01:32:38):
he should just take some time. It's free to watch,
and they tell their story from beginning to end. And
I'm talking about people with much higher PSAs than your cousin,
as high as one point fifty getting reversals to zero
point one or point five within a few months. So
it might be something interesting for your cousin to look
at because we have a non toxic to solving this problem.

Speaker 7 (01:33:02):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
Oh, I thought right there before you go to Scott
and Bowie. Uh, what about people taking Solve Solve pound Meadow?
Is that considered good?

Speaker 6 (01:33:10):
Yeah? Solve Meta is good for the prostact that's not
there's nothing wrong with taking that. It's good for the prostate.

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
Okay, gotcha for after the top. Scott and Bowie is online.
Three grand rising, Scott your question for doctor.

Speaker 13 (01:33:22):
Herou, Yeah, granted, Rising and jentlemen, and thank you again
for this conversations with Doc. I don't think that this
was the intent, but what I heard you speak about
the stat ends in Alzheimer's and some of these type pretensives.
I just want to make sure that what's also coming
across this long term use. So a lot of the
complications with any medication is the long term use. You're right, artificially,

(01:33:46):
it will help the problem, and it is cute setting.
But after you get that resolve or after it is
is off, lifestyle change has to be part of it.
So what tends to happen People stay on the medications,
they don't change their lifestyle. And I think herbal remedies
there's a great place for it. But there's got to
be some type of combination where people address what's happening
right now, because if they don't, it may take some

(01:34:09):
time for the rbal remedies to actually kick in.

Speaker 4 (01:34:11):
It better if they.

Speaker 13 (01:34:12):
Have a cleaner baseline, whether it's sat in, whether it's
your A one c things of that nature. So I
just wanted to call it. I love the conversation, but
I just want to make sure that the long term
use part of it is thrown into it, because that's
when you start to see a lot more complications. It's
not if you're using for ten ten months to have.

Speaker 1 (01:34:33):
You all right. That's true.

Speaker 6 (01:34:36):
There's people who had kidney shut downs using center prol
and using other forms of these drugs. If you look
at something like met Foreman, the first listed side effect
and mess forming is death from lactic acidosis, and that
lactic acidosis can come with someone who's had a kidney injury,
particularly someone who's got high blood pressures been using these

(01:34:58):
high blood pressure medica, particularly with center filled. American Heart
Association says that you can get kidney acute renal failure
from short term and long term use of these medications.
But at least let's even just let's just say that
we want to talk about the long term use of
these medications. Well, you're going to have to find another
alternative for these medications, and the alternatives do exist. There

(01:35:23):
are studies on the US Nationalist to the Health website
to show that allos refecttract works just as well as
capti pro long term and short term. So here you've
got one thing, capter pro, that causes a cute renal failure.
It will lower your blood pressure, but you're looking at
a cute renal failure. And then you have something like
olive efexstract that will lower your blood pressure but will

(01:35:44):
not cause renal failure.

Speaker 14 (01:35:46):
But this is not given as an option for people.
The option that you're given is a pharmaceutical, and people
thinking that the pharmaceutical is going to solve the problem
short term and long term and the reason why the
long term conversation is important one and I'm glad that
you brought a up, is because when you're told that
you have high blood pressure, you're told also that you're
going to have to take this medication for the rest

(01:36:06):
of your life.

Speaker 6 (01:36:06):
So there goes the long term part. And then you
have diabetes, they say you have it for the rest
of your life, so you have to take these medications
for the rest of your life. So my point is,
let's prevent the problem in the first place, and if
you do have the problem, let's try to reverse the
problems with a non toxic approach, which we've been able
to do. We've been able to reverse high blood pressure

(01:36:27):
and diabetes under thirty days, and we have the evidence.
Race have the evidence on our website. So really and truly,
there are studies that show that there are herbs that
work just as well as these pharmaceuticals, but that is
not what's being pushed because there's no money in anything
but patented drugs. So this is what is being pushed

(01:36:48):
by the pharmaceutical medical conflict because it's about return on investment.
There is no return on.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
Investor because you're raising the clock and we got doctor
shape on deck. People still is conferent California. Serena, can
you make a question real quick? And the other question too.
I got a tweet question for you, doctor Henry. They
want to know if if ground flax seed used in
smoothies is also bad or good for you? So I'll
let you answer those two questions so we can wrap

(01:37:16):
up here. But Serita, your question real quick for doctor
doctor Heru.

Speaker 15 (01:37:20):
Okay, doctor, thank you, Carl, doctor Haru. My daughter, she
made zucchini pasta. Are you stating that any pasta.

Speaker 6 (01:37:29):
Is no good or just no? No? We based pasta.
We babe, pasta pasta is fine.

Speaker 15 (01:37:36):
Okay, okay, thank you, thank you, Carl.

Speaker 1 (01:37:38):
All right, thank you, Sister Serena. All right. The other
the tweet came in. Will you ask the doctor if
ground flax seed used in smoothies is also good or
bad for you?

Speaker 6 (01:37:48):
It's bad for you because it's going to raise your
aswers in levels artificially in men and women. And when
women get too much answers and they become estwergen dominant,
and it leads to things like endometriosis, PCs, ovarian cysts,
even some breast cancers. It also leads to infertility, strong menstrual,

(01:38:10):
cycles of heavy bleeding, pain, and all of that is
associated with increased esrogen. For men, increased estrogen is going
to affect your libido and it's also going to spoil
your prostate. So just you know, people can do further
research and just put in phyto estrogen food list and
you'll see that flax seed is number one, So you
want to cut out all flak seed products after that

(01:38:32):
is SOI you want to cut out all soy products,
toe food, soy milk, all of that. It's going to
add more estrogen to your body. For the women, going
to create tumors and kynecological issues, infertility, all those things
go along with it. And men. For men, it's going
to cause prostatitis and also a decrease in your libido

(01:38:52):
because you're adding estrogen into your body, you know, unnecessarily.
So this is a very important conversation. But I would
just tell people, you know, we've been on for some time,
and I know there's you know, another guest that you
have to segue to. Please just go to herbal results
dot net. Your best time would be spent on our
testimonials page. We created that page with long form interviews

(01:39:14):
with customers who have and clients who have come to
us with these seemingly irreversible problems that your doctors are
going to tell you're going to have the rest of
your life. We've been able to reverse these problems without medication,
and this is just a fact, and so just look
at it and then look at the scientific studies. You
want to reach us, you want to look at what

(01:39:35):
protocols work for different things, just contact us at info
urble results dot net. We have a great list of
products on our website that address different problems and have
done so reliably for over a decade. So you know,
I'd like to say thank you, Carl, thank you for
making this platform available for this type of information where

(01:39:58):
people can actually look at to what's being said, vet
what's being said, and see if it will benefit them
in any way. And our proposition is that you know,
we're not bankrupting people. The products are actually quite cheap
and you're able to heal yourself from the comfort of
your own home. If you have high blood pressure, get
a high blood pressure kit. Check your blood pressure every day,

(01:40:20):
see if our protocol is working. If it's working, continued,
it's not working to start it and move to something else.
You know, I really believe in results. I don't believe
in anyone loving what I'm doing or loving the brand.
Love the results. That's what's important. And judge me by
my results.

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
So that's what's Give your webshine email address again before
we let.

Speaker 6 (01:40:41):
You go verbal results dot net and the website that's
the website and the email address is info at verbal
results dot net. And I would just just give one announcement,
one quick announcement to the audience. People ask me where
I'm like to train. I just we just did Atlanta

(01:41:01):
this weekend with live testimonials of cancer reversals and teaching peopowerup,
you know, resolve their blood pressure and diabetes issues and
the true cause of it. And I will be in
New York on the weekend after next and uh that
is going to be on the twenty fourth of October,

(01:41:22):
that is a Friday, and that's at five pm. I
will be at Nicholas Brooklyn, Nicholas Brooklyn, thirteen ninety six
Fulton Street, Brooklyn, New York, one one one two one
one sixth Just you can reach me there, just reach
me on my website or see me there thirteen ninety
six Fulton Street, Brooklyn, New York one two one one

(01:41:44):
six at five pm, Nicholas, Brooklyn. And the day after
I will be in the Bronx and I will be
that's October twenty fifth at one pm, and we're going
to talk about reversing cancer, high blood pressure and diabetes.
I have a couple of testim commonials come in of
people in New York City who had their cancer reverse

(01:42:04):
or their high blood pressure dive. They will come in
person and talk and you can ask them questions of
how they were able to do it, because that's very important.
This is the level of evidence and proof that we're
giving people. That is October twenty fifth at one pm
at Green Earth Apothecary. That is one five three dryser Loop, Bronx,
New York, one zero four seven five. It is a

(01:42:28):
lecture on reverse in cancer, high blood pressure and diabetes.
October twenty fifth, one pm, Green Earth Apothecary. Those are
the Carl's listeners in the New York area. Bring your family,
bring your friends, bring your parents, bring your children, and
come learn this information and learn how to reverse your
illnesses from the comfort of your home in a real

(01:42:50):
way where you can actually measure the results by you know,
taking your blood glucose to the glucose monitor every day.
Make sure what I'm saying is working.

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
We got to cut it because we just flat out
of time. We got it next day, I guess. And
thank you, uh, you know, for sharing this information with
us this morning. You all right thirteen at the top,
doctor Kevin Shockley, grand Rising, and thank you for being
so patient with us this morning, doctor Shokley.

Speaker 5 (01:43:17):
Oh, grand Rising, And that didn't take patience. I was
learning a ton and so I think it's really important
you know that we paid close attention to what the
doctor is saying. I you know, you can think you're
doing healthy things and then you listen to the doctor
and you're like, wait a minute. You know, I didn't
even think about this or that. So I was in
learning mode as well. That was an outstanding segment. Thank

(01:43:38):
you so much for having me on as well.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
Yeah, we're always in a learning mode, doc, and I'm
going to learn some stuff from you too, because this
is a situation we call the school to prison pipeline.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
And I think it was.

Speaker 1 (01:43:51):
Doctor Kunjufu who Juwanza Kanjufu came up with that, Correct
me if I'm wrong on that. Is there any truth
that about this, you know, school to prison pipeline or
is there something that doctor than Jufou if he did.

Speaker 5 (01:44:03):
Come up with it, well, I do believe that he was.
If not the he was one of the people who
helped us understand that our young people are going being
trained to go straight from the school, which is a
prison of its own in many ways, into the prison.

(01:44:23):
Where he talked about they're able to determine the number
of jail sales they're going to need based upon third
grade reading scores. And in the film that I most
recently did, Cultural War focused on Black Youth, which people
can watch on TV, Amazon Prime, Apple TV Plus, et cetera,

(01:44:46):
Doctor Kunjufu made one of his last appearances actually in
that film, and he talked about how they the governors
of different states used his research on how you could
predict how many bits you know, how you could predict
whether or not children were going to end up in

(01:45:07):
jail based on reading scores to detection to help them
figure out how many prisons sales they were going to create.
He you can tell when he talks about it in
the tell how irritated and disgusted he is with them
using his research for such nefarious purposes. So yes, indeed,
doctor Producu was definitely on the case with that right

(01:45:28):
and hold.

Speaker 1 (01:45:28):
Up though right there, I hate to do this. Well,
we're going to take a short break here in doctor
Canjufuru's course, best known for his book Countering the Conspiracy
to Destroy Black Boys. You've got to talk about, you know,
talk about young people, how young people? What can we
do some of those ones, not all the ones that
are you know, wildly out, but there's there's a few,
and those are the ones that make the news. What
are your thoughts? You want to jump in on this

(01:45:49):
conversation with doctor Kevin Shockley, he's an educator. Reach out
to us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight
seventy six and we'll take your phone calls next and
Grand Rising family, thanks for rolling with on this Monday morning.
That's Indigenous People's Day. Some people still say it's Columbus Day. Anyway,
it's a federal holiday and so thank you for checking
in this morning. I guess is doctor Kemick Shockney, doctor

(01:46:09):
sharkne is it's also a filmmaker as well, but he's
an educator. He deals with the African centered education, if
you will, and doctor Shockkie. One of the reason why
we called you, there's a report in Washington, d C.
The city council wanted to extend the curfew because they
thought that the IEO people in the district were causing
all these problems during the summer months because school's out.

(01:46:30):
Now school's back, and so they want to drop the curfew.
But they've got I guess a couple of members or
maybe one member the uh DC City Council wants to
extend the curfew. And I just wanting to get your
thoughts on that. Is this a stage where they're setting
to criminalize our young people for some trivial events or
do they really need it, because some people say it's
because of these young people on the streets of Washington, DC,

(01:46:51):
And we've heard stories of some of what's been going on.
That's why Trump sent in the troops. So I want
to get your thoughts on.

Speaker 5 (01:46:57):
All tend to addressing a symptom as opposed to a
larger problem. For example, there are people, you know, there
are lots of teachers who talk about the problems they
have in classrooms, particularly with black male students. There are
people who talk about the rowdiness of our young people

(01:47:19):
on subway trains, but there are people who talk about
the issues with our young people and the language that
they use, et cetera around older people. All of these
things are noticing symptoms of a larger problem. If you
think about what Neelie Fuller has said for some years

(01:47:40):
that really we are in one great, big prison system
that if we understand the system of racism, white supremacy,
what it is and how it works. Until we understand
that system, everything else we think we understand well only
sort to confuse us. He taught that for about sixty
years to us. So what we're missing is that having

(01:48:04):
things like curfews, suspending people from school, expelling people from school,
locking people up in jail, but not addressing the overarching
system of racism white supremacy that has made our entire
planet a jail, is not going to actually solve the problem.
So I think what we need to do is to

(01:48:25):
put our focus where it needs to be, and that is,
how do we save our young people from the larger
systems of white supremacy that they're experiencing. So they go
into school every day and they deal with these distorted images.
They're in a society that's dealing with this distorted images
assumptions coming from Imagine a black child sitting in a

(01:48:49):
classroom with a teacher who has what we might call
the white imagination and how it works in relation to
black people. Everybody listening to me who is black nosed
that there is a white imagination about who black people are.
It's quite distorted, and that when you're forty five and

(01:49:12):
fifty five and twenty five even you can sort of
deal with the fact that they're projecting this negativity onto you.
But when you're a black youth in schools, those distortions
go unchecked. They're unchallenged or unopposed. So you've got this person,
and sadly enough, even if the person is black and

(01:49:35):
they're imbued in their mind psychologically with the system of racism,
white supremacy, and all of its nasty ideas about black people,
there's nobody to offer a counter story for the children
who are sitting in those classrooms. There's nobody to sort
of protect the humanity of the children. There's nobody in

(01:49:58):
the mayor's office who's creating these policies to say, wait
a second, how do we actually deal with the problem
that's there. The doctor who was just on just talking
about dealing with the actual issue as opposed to just
its symptoms by taking medication that eventually kills you. But again,

(01:50:18):
no one to affirm the blackness of these young people,
and nobody to affirm who they are. They're consumed then
by the stench of white supremacy. Without enough life experience
or knowledge he can battle the white supremacist teachers, administration
and racist white supremacist systems. We're not in there to
do that to save our young people from that. So

(01:50:41):
they can put all the curfews and do all these
things that they want to do and keep suspending and expelling,
none of that's going to be the thing that solves
the problem because they keep missing that the problem is them.
So we're going to make the problem are young people
instead of so I think that's really what we're looking at.
I think we have to deploy knowledge and action that

(01:51:08):
helps us, that helps us put out front poor what
the real problem is for our young people. There's an
attack on our young people, and that's one of the
reasons I created the film.

Speaker 1 (01:51:22):
Well, let me answer this dog, because it's some of
our children are really you know, incusurable, or they're just
out there just just just just misbehaving. You know, when
we were growing up, we respected our elders. There's no
profanity if he you know, yes, ma'am, no, ma'am. And
you know we were polite. But there's a core young

(01:51:42):
group of young people. I'm telling young brothers and sisters,
and it's just there's two who just have no respect
for for their elders. What's missing here?

Speaker 6 (01:51:51):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:51:52):
What? What is it something their parents failed failed to
share with them, or what's going on here?

Speaker 5 (01:51:58):
Well? I think I heard name off Bar many years ago,
and he's got a really interesting, very short book called
from mis Education to Education where he uses an example
of a dog that somebody is trying to get to
where I can't remember exactly, but he says the dog

(01:52:19):
is instead of barking, they're trying to get the doll
to speak or wear a suit or these kinds of things.
In other words, they're trying to get the dog to
not act like a dog, and they've trained the dog
away from its own dog self. So I think that
what's happening is what our brilliant scholars have been telling

(01:52:41):
us for many years, and that is that we're training
our young people away from who they are, and they're
living in a society that is against them. So when
I get on trains, and when I go out in
the public, and when I interact in society, I don't
do many other things of course that the that we're

(01:53:02):
talking about these young people are doing. However, the grown
black man that I am feels a lot of what these.

Speaker 6 (01:53:12):
Young people feel.

Speaker 5 (01:53:13):
Now I'm not sixteen, so I have much better impulse
control and much better ability to draw on a set
of resources that make that won't have me behaving outwardly
the way that they behave.

Speaker 16 (01:53:28):
But do I.

Speaker 5 (01:53:29):
Feel what they feel? Yes, Now I can say I've
been spending a lot of time in schools, way more
than I used to around black youth, and in fact,
tomorrow even we'll be spending time in school DC public
schools working with black youth. Now, one of the things
that I notice about them, and well let me let

(01:53:51):
me let me say this first, one of the things
that I notice about myself when I'm in these schools
is a lot of the feeling that I have when
I was a black youth, myself comes back. There's a
general feeling within schools of the anti black, particularly and
especially I can speak to black Boy because I'm paying

(01:54:15):
attention because I'm eventually going to do some writing on it,
so I'm paying attention to how I feel and what
is actually happening. The feeling is one of that system
being against you. So if you're sixteen and you feel
as though the school system is sort of against you,
and then you've got a society where they're hearing about

(01:54:37):
Trayvon Martin and they're hearing about what's happening to all
the young people that we could name that have been harmed,
you're developing inside of your mind a sense that you
need to protect yourself in a sense that this is
all against you, and that this is all BS and
f this as that you know, they would say. So,
I think what's happening really is is we are allowing

(01:55:02):
and I say we as adults, we are allowing our
children to be in a system that makes them feel
less than It makes them feel attacked, makes them feel unprotected,
and their right in many ways, they are What did
any of us ever do about George Zimmerman and the

(01:55:22):
fact that he killed a black child. George Zimmerman is
still walking around doing whatever he wants to do.

Speaker 4 (01:55:30):
Every day.

Speaker 5 (01:55:31):
They notice that our young people are noticing that they
can be harmed and we can't do anything about it,
and or that we're not doing anything about it, and
the society is actually getting worse. So they're noticing all
these things that are happening. Meanwhile, there's not a safe
space within most schools. So what you have is a

(01:55:56):
group of people who are feeling unprotected, unloved, uncared for.
Then we're expecting them to somehow using the twelve, fourteen, sixteen,
eighteen year old brain to still operate in a compliant,
friendly and okay way. I don't know why we would
expect that, but we have to understand that this is

(01:56:18):
a war. We are in an actual and in a
cultural war. I think when I say that, people might say, yeah, sure,
we're in a war, but I don't think people take
it literally that that's what's happening every day. We need
to use that language more often, that we're in a
war in the system of racism, white supremacy, and our

(01:56:39):
young people are a main and major target in that war.
So yes, they're going to act out, No, they're not
going to give respect. And finally, I think that we
do have instances where we're able to teach by children
to be respectful and to be kind and to be
decent and to figure out ways to deal with this.

(01:57:01):
And those are our African centered schools, which many are
home schools that are African centered, African centered buildings that
we still have in the suck. When you go into
those places, you don't see Black children with those kinds
of behaviors. But for some reason we haven't yet said okay,
then what we want to do is to push largely

(01:57:22):
for African centered schools so we see a solution. And
when I say it a solution, I actually mean solution.
None of that goes on in those schools. Children learn
in those schools, children come out, Black children come out competitive.
We even have instances such as African American Academy and
Chick Elementary School and Nation House School. We have examples

(01:57:45):
of children, Black children in those instances, in those institutions
coming out surpassing white and Asians as students. So academically
in eurocentric education as well as the acrocentric education, so
We have the data that says this is that business

(01:58:09):
schools work better for black children, But for some reason,
the black community has not decided that they want to
take that on and make that as big of a
thing as we should. That's the thing that's going to
say to our kids though.

Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
Yeah, and that's addicted to white right there, because they
still think that the white man's eye is colder, his
sugar sweeter, and it's water wetter. And that's why they're
still embracing those public school system. That's why their children
are having problems. But do the problem stem from what's
going on in the home, doctor Shaka? Is it because
these same who disrespect people outside probably disrespect their parents.

(01:58:46):
And as you know the numbers, they tell us that
many of most of the sixty seventy probably more a
black households are headed by a single a single black woman.
Is that the issue that we're dealing with here, Well.

Speaker 5 (01:58:59):
Once again, I think it's a huge issue, but it's
a symptom too. The home is also a prison. The
home is inside the system of racism, white supremacy. Thank
you Neely fuller By for helping us to understand that
the entire planet is a white supremacist prison. So in

(01:59:19):
order to he says, what we want to do is
to replace the system of white supremacy with a system
of justice. And I think that what said for us,
justice looks like some of the things that you see
black folks building for black children and the institutions that
we build for our children. And what these African centered

(01:59:41):
schools actually also do is parent training, training parents to
give them the political and often economic power to better
understand schools and to take some of the barriers that
are in parents way of doing good parenting away. Yes,
that is another symptom.

Speaker 6 (02:00:00):
Now, so.

Speaker 5 (02:00:02):
If you have never seen a model of good parenting
because you didn't have good parents, then it would be
odd for us to expect you to do good parenting.
But you've never seen it, you've never had any training.
You don't understand what that looks like because of it
up coming up from slavery. At what point did they

(02:00:24):
stop and say, hold on, we've now got to put
into black people what they need because we took all
the good that they had in them when they came
from the African continent. We took that out, we beat
it out of them. Now we need to do something
so that they can have what they need. That never happened.
So at what point were we supposed to start acting

(02:00:46):
like we have since if our sense was beat out
of us and never a program to put it back
in there. I don't know. I don't know why people
expect I forgot who are some psychology maybe Amos Wilson
who said that this system is lucky that we don't
respond to it the way we really should be responding

(02:01:10):
to it, that we actually had the amount of self
control to keep ourselves from responding to them the way
we really should be. I think it's a miracle that
we're doing as well as we are, considering the fact
that we really have never had a program of fixing
the problems that have been put on our head since

(02:01:31):
the system of racism and white white supremacy is so
pervasive in our lives. So yes, I do think parenting
is an enormous problem. I just don't know why or
where Black people were supposed to pick up on U
having this good parenting when we don't. We when since
the time of slavery, we haven't been allowed to reattach

(02:01:53):
we haven't, we haven't, and we haven't decided as well
to reattach to who we are as people of African descent,
and create systems and communities that we that we that
we like, that that worked well for us. And then
on top of it, when we have created communities that
work for us and that are thriving, we've had our
own government to blow them up literally like they did

(02:02:19):
with uh Black Wall Street in Rosewood and so many
other examples around the country, and you know, catching people,
you know, killing people who are really good examples for
black people to look to, and like I said, just
destroying anything black that actually works. The same way I
mentioned that school a second ago, Chick Elementary School, a

(02:02:41):
school in Kansas City where black children were out performing everybody.
They destroyed that too. They harmed the principle uh put
some made her give up her job there. They did
the same thing to Fair Rivers, who was the principal
of Saying Home with Shoel in Michigan, they.

Speaker 1 (02:03:02):
Hold on, don't rite that dowt. We've got to step
aside for a few moments. I'll let you pick it
up from there. San Chola School in Michigan. Also a
tweet tweeter want to Know It says, if you teach
young people to respect elderly people. By respecting the young people.
It says we got to respect them, they'll respect us.
I wanted to get your thoughts on that family. You
two can join our discussion with doctor Kemick Shockley is
an educator. Reach out to us at eight hundred four

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The banks are closed as well, so there's no school
as well. And we talk about students right now, especially
in our students Black students. Before we go back to

(02:03:46):
our guest, the Dr Shockley. Doctor Kemmick Shockley is an
educator and a filmmakers. Want to remind you come up
later this week. We're going to discuss the anniversary of
the Media in Man March with two of the architects
the first run Reverend doctor Willie Wilson and also creator
doctor Malana Kurenger. Both of them are going to be here.
Both of them are one of the first two people
that Minister Farcone call when he came up with the

(02:04:07):
idea for the Million Man March. In fact, doctor Krenger
wrote the manifesto for the Million Man March. So we're
going to talk to them. I'm going to hear some
some behind the scenes deals and some of the meetings
they held before before it came to fruition. Also, Chairman
Fred Hampson is going to be with us, and civil
rights activist attorney Daryl Jones will join us as well.
And Darrell's a leading a protest on Capitol Hill this Wednesday.

(02:04:28):
The Supreme Court's going to hear have a hearing about
whether or not to dismantle one of our civil rights
that gave us black votes the right to vote. That
they're going to discuss that. So Attorney Daryl Jones and
his group is going to be out there protesting on
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If you're in the DMV though, we're rolling on FM

(02:04:49):
ninety five point nine and AM fourteen fifteen WL. All right,
doctor Shock, they I'll let you finish your thought then
I'll let you respond to this tweet that we got
from one of our listeners.

Speaker 5 (02:04:58):
Sure, I was talking about a woman named Frere Rivers
who had a school in Lansing, Michigan, where black children
were performing above the norm, and they gave her all
the hell they could give her, and to the point
they started questioning why she was on the board as
well as was acting as principal of the school. Now,

(02:05:21):
during the time the school was getting itself together and
not performing above the norm, there were no issues. It
wasn't until after she started making the great strides that
they gave her so many problems. I actually had an
opportunity to interview her and put she's in the document
series as well, And like I was saying, they did
the same thing to now her name is slipping at me.

(02:05:45):
But at Chick Elementary School in Kansas City. Another example
I'll give is when they finally got the social studies
department together at Howard University Middle School, and really they
had a sure that to Shango and Billy Shaka, who
went into the school and changed the trajectory of the

(02:06:06):
sort of self hatred that a lot of the students
were experiencing in there. The principal of the school ended
up firing him from his position, giving him all kinds
of problems. That story actually Matt went all over the
country and they ended up making her the donkey of
the day on the Breakfast Club. That was an interesting thing.
But a lot of people in the community were wondering,

(02:06:28):
why would you get good of a teacher at a
place like Howard University Middle School who's turning things around
for the young people. And it's really but so many examples,
and some of them I talk about in the book
that I did called African Center of Education, Theory and Practice,

(02:06:48):
as well as have some of these people including Tshondo
in Billy Shaka and other folks in the Doctor series.
So we had done some documenting and are working to
document more more instances. So the fun thing I'll say
on that is a mentor of mine, Doctor Asa Hillier,

(02:07:08):
before he passed away, was the person that alerted me
to the fact that many of the most effective teachers
of black children are fired. And he talked about abdu
Lahlem Muhammad, who they called the Math Doctor, who said
he could teach math to anybody, no matter how difficult
of a time you're having learning math. Doctor Abdul Ali

(02:07:30):
Mohammad was able to teach teach Mathew to you the
trouble that he had in at the different places where
he worked as a professor, including Lincoln University. So I
really think that.

Speaker 17 (02:07:42):
We we are. It's like an unbelievable examples of war
being waged against black people, even not just burning stuff
down during Wall Street, Rosewood, Bronsville, et cetera, but also
when we're successful at.

Speaker 5 (02:08:01):
Doing the things that we need to do for our children,
the kind of problems that we can have of that.
So I think we just have to understand that it
really is about who's going to control Black children, who's
going to have control over their minds.

Speaker 1 (02:08:17):
Yeah, that's what some of our scholars say, that the
fight is for the mind. Her mind. Doctor Lennon Jeffery says,
that's the big fight. But here's the tweet question that
I have for you from one of our listeners. He says,
you teach young people to respect elderly people by respecting
the young people, and it will carry over. It says,
we've got to respect that young people. Is that something

(02:08:38):
you agree with?

Speaker 17 (02:08:39):
I agree.

Speaker 5 (02:08:40):
I think that we should respect young people. I think
what we should try and do is to be a
model for what we want the young people to be.
So I think that's yeah, I have no issues with that.
I think it's a true statement.

Speaker 1 (02:08:55):
Okay, guess some folks want to talk to you with
thirteen away from the top down because it's calling from Connecticut.
Is on to Cliffe with doctor Sharkley.

Speaker 18 (02:09:04):
A grandising brother, Colin, grandising brother, doctor Sharkley. And thank
you so much for your response. And I agree for
the most part of what you're saying. However, there is
a responsibility and this was the Honorable Minisuleuis fhurri Con when.

Speaker 17 (02:09:16):
He pledged because.

Speaker 18 (02:09:18):
We have the sixteenth, we have the thirtieth anniversary. He
gave us the blueprint. And it seems like what we
have is we have our rappers, our entertainers completely going
a gets with the Honorable miniscule Louis fir Cone, and
it seems to see, it seems to be that they
have more influence over our children than the righteousness coming

(02:09:41):
from the Honorable Minisuleuis Furykne. So we got rappers man
making drill music, trap music, and so we have our
youth glimorizing and being more involved in that opposed to
listening and keeping the pledge of the honorbo Minisule Louis
farra Con. So when we talk about racism that exists,
it does exist. But when we have our own youth

(02:10:04):
that make a decision, a conscious decision to be counterproductive,
then will follows that. And so we're talking about black excellence.
We don't need these individuals. They're just as bad as
the white supremacist and white racism that we're dealing with.
They're not productive in helping our community. Does that make
a little bit of sense?

Speaker 5 (02:10:23):
A little bit? But I think the thing that we
want to focus on is what Meeie Fuller has says
why it started with Neelie Fuller that we are on
a plantation. So the rappers are also on a plantation,
and they're on a plantation where they are being told, hey,
you can get yourself off the plantation, will give you

(02:10:45):
millions of dollars and goal change it, et cetera if
you will help us with our project and program of
destroying your people. So, because we don't have an effective
counter to that where we would say we'll give you
millions of dollars to not do it, it's happening. So
it also happens in society in general, where what happens

(02:11:08):
is that people take jobs. You may not be getting
paid millions of dollars, but you comply on your job
with things that you know are not good for people
of African descent, because you also on a lower level
and scale than the rapper, but on a lower level
and scale. You are also not saying you personally, but
we are compliant in a system that we know is

(02:11:30):
causing our destruction. So I agree, and of course I
was at the Millionaire Marnch and I totally agree with
what the minister was saying, and I think that yes,
it's real what the minister is teaching, and we must
do that, and we have to find a way to
stop the anti black idiocy that it's being put into
the music. However, we have to understand once again, that's

(02:11:53):
a symptom. So that is simply a system of being
in a system that is white supremacists and anti black,
and they're using money because they know how effective they
can be if they can get us to put all
that stuff to rhyme and make it all fit with
our way of being as people. And the rhythmic patterns

(02:12:14):
within us. So I agree with the idea that it's destructive.
I just think we have to add to it and
understanding that all of them, all of us, including the rappers,
including the actors, and the other people who are paid
high salaries, are all a part of the white supremacist
system and are in the white supremacist jail that Nelie Fuller.

Speaker 6 (02:12:37):
Is talking about.

Speaker 5 (02:12:39):
So I can agree with that in part.

Speaker 1 (02:12:40):
You know, all right, ten away from the topic, let
me share this that I read on one of the
social media There's two children who attend the same school,
and they were their parents, and they ran into each
other the supermarket and for all the you know, one's
black and one is white. Well they thought it was white.
She's actually Spanish. So the Spanish youngster, young girl ran

(02:13:02):
o went to see the black gum. Before she could go,
a mother grabbed it by the hand and said in Spanish,
don't don't you know, don't go with the blacks. But
what she the mother did not know that the black
parent whose child she was running to, understood Spanish. And
she was taken back by that because she's wondering, what
are they teaching in their homes. And this goes back
to what you with you And I think Clifford's on

(02:13:23):
about the music, the entertainment, that people don't understand that
this thing goes worldwide and they see us acting out
on stage like this. That's why they where they where.
They have a sort of aversion to us, not just
white folks, not just Spanish, but even black folks, even
brothers and sisters from the continent, because they they think
that what they see on TV, that's that's all we do.

(02:13:43):
Because they don't know any of us for the most part.
So how do we how do we change that around? Doc?

Speaker 6 (02:13:49):
How?

Speaker 1 (02:13:49):
How what can we do to counteract that?

Speaker 5 (02:13:52):
Well, I think that when it comes to so okay,
I'm gonna speak to this from two different sides. One,
I will say the images that are going out around
the world about black people, when people are seeing these
images of us, the first thing that they need to do,
and I'm gonna talk about what we can do too.

(02:14:13):
But first I'm gonna talk about what they need to
do is they need to understand that the images of
them are also quite negative. So you haven't have to
come to common sense and say, yes, I see these
negative images of black Americans, if that's what we're talking
about on television. But there are also extraordinarily negative images

(02:14:34):
of Africans. So if you're watching that and you're on
the continent, you have to click in and say, what
are the images that America and others and you're, etcetera
portray of Africans right here on the continent. What are
the images that American portrays of Latinos right you know,
right here, et cetera. So you can't claim ignorance that

(02:14:57):
you just don't know any better, because that's ho you
can see. You have to be able to think about
the images of your own group that are being portrayed.
So that's first is you can't just blame that on
the system of white supremacy. You're taking some of it
in for whatever reason, and you're causing more disunity by

(02:15:25):
saying that you don't see other images when there are
other images that are available. So that's one thing. I
think what we have to do, since the negative images
are of us, is we're going to have to be
willing to check people who are portraying black people negatively
in the world. So those people who have access to

(02:15:48):
people who are doing that, they can't just be yes
men and women and go along with any and every
image that they see or anything that these people are
doing because they want to be part of their inner circle.
There's people around those people who could check them and say, man,
this is just not good. So I think there has
to be a two ProMED approach from that. Stop with

(02:16:09):
the negative images. We're gonna have to fight the system
of white supremacy because we do not have control of
our image unless we just say no. But the people
who have control over how black people look in television
and on the radio are white supremacists. We don't control
how we look on television. The only thing we could
do is say no to millions of dollars for portraying that.

(02:16:33):
And again, secondly, those people who are seeing those images
and saying that those are the only images I see
have to understand that the system of white supremacy has
one hell of a negative project against them as well.
And if they want to temporarily ignore that so that
they can just act like it's just us, that's not

(02:16:55):
gonna help.

Speaker 1 (02:16:58):
Yeah, And that's akin to to have a bad experience
within a person from Africa, and then they just hate
on all Africans, and that person they think represents all
every African in the diaspora, not just on the continent,
but in the Caribbean, South America, the Europe every African.
It's that way, right, So how do how do we

(02:17:20):
is that that person's fault then because they don't don't
know how to distinguish from one person doesn't just like
I'm the I don't represent all African Americans neither to you.
Is that the person who's who perceives that, is that
their shortcoming?

Speaker 5 (02:17:34):
I guess no, because of course, on the one hand, no,
it's not their own shortcoming. Because we are in the prison.
So we're keeping keeping in mind that in a prison.
One of the things that happens is that that you
want to the prison guards have the prisoners against each
other so that they can maintain control, and trying to

(02:17:55):
figure out ways that how do we maintain take control
in this prison? Who are the people we need to befriend,
Who are the people that we need to use to
get other prisoners doing what we want them to do
so that we can maintain control in this prison. By
the way, the same thing happens in classrooms. Who are
the students in this classroom that I need to befriend.
This is the way teachers will talk to you out loud.

(02:18:17):
I need to make friends with this one. I need
to be cool with this one because this one can
help me control the other. Same thing happens there, same
thing happens on our larger plantation in the system of racism,
white supremacy. So we're being plotted against right. So yeah,
on the one hand, it is true that what we
want to do is to understand the nature of the

(02:18:38):
prison we're in, so it's not that person's fault fully.
But on the other hand, yeah, making us general assumptions
about each other when the same whatever they say about
negatively about Afro Brazilians, they mean the same thing about
African Americans and Africans and everybody else.

Speaker 1 (02:19:00):
Hold up, thoughr Dad, Doc, we got to step aside
so our stations can identify themselves. And we got a
bunch of folks want to talk to you as well.
It's three minutes away from the top of the our family.
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(02:19:21):
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(02:19:42):
finish your thought, and we got a bunch of folks
want to I got questions for you as well.

Speaker 5 (02:19:46):
Yeah, you can go ahead. I think I had finished
that far. If I did, I don't remember what it was.

Speaker 1 (02:19:51):
Okay, let's go to Sondra's calling from Baltimore. She's online. Three,
Grand Rising, Sondre, you're on with doctor Shockley. Three. I'm
not hearing. Oh there you are?

Speaker 11 (02:20:06):
Go ahead, Okay, can you hear? Okay, good morning, I'm
be Grand Rising to you and your guest call.

Speaker 16 (02:20:11):
Uh, that's.

Speaker 7 (02:20:13):
Just What is the purpose.

Speaker 11 (02:20:17):
Of all these these uh young people going to prison
at such a young age, What is the purpose?

Speaker 15 (02:20:23):
What?

Speaker 11 (02:20:23):
What do the future hold for them? It's because they
feel like there's nothing that the society don't need black
people anymore, They don't need their work force anymore, so
they don't know what to do with them but to
build more prisoners and store them in prison because they

(02:20:43):
have nothing for them to look forward to.

Speaker 5 (02:20:49):
It's well, I mean, I think there are several reasons
why so many people, why there's so many black people
who have been put into prison. One has to do
with the fact that the society itself doesn't have anything

(02:21:10):
else that they It's almost like, who is the prison
for The prison was created for us to go into it.
It wasn't created for some other group to go into it.
The prison was created for black people to go into it.
So it's really the lack of morals of the system

(02:21:32):
of racism, white supremacy. What else are we going to
do with these people. We don't want to give them
jobs when they apply for jobs that the last higher.
We don't want to give them funds. We don't want
to give money. We're going to give them less money.
We're going to put less money into their communities. We're
going to not educate these people, so we're not going

(02:21:53):
to give them the kind of education that liberates them.
We're going to show them images of themselves in radio
on well not in radio, but on television and on internet, etc.
That are going that are demeaning them. We're going to
treat them as horribly as we possibly can. And so

(02:22:16):
these are the people we're considering. These people sort of
like throwaway people. We have nothing for them. So what
we're going to do with them, We're going to store
them in the prison, and then what we're going to
do is to find a way to make money off
of the fact that they went into prison. So a

(02:22:37):
black person who is the only safe black people and
they're safe in quotes, are the ones who cooperate fully
with the system and are so nice to the system,
so whitewashed that they can be that there are no
new use to the black community. So if you've got

(02:22:57):
something else that you're trying to do, you know, the
system doesn't have a place for black people who are
pro black. So when all the deprivation leads to violence
in the black community and the folks end up in jail.
So it's an ongoing war against black people's humanity. And
the distortion that you see of us in the media

(02:23:20):
comes once again from the fact that we're on one
great big plantation and one great, big old prison system.
So the purpose of putting us in jail, good sister,
is that that is what the jail is for. I mean,
it's a hard question to answer because I guess it's
almost like saying, what's the purpose of having a sink
in your house? Well, the kind of when you turn
the water on, is that's what it does. It catches

(02:23:42):
the purpose of the jail. Well, that's where black people
are supposed to go. I mean, that's what that's what
that's for. The prison is for us. So when I
when as it pertains to our young people, what they're
doing is they're training them on how to be and
I say good prisoners. By what I'm thinking of a

(02:24:07):
discipline and control. We know that black students are three
or four times more likely to be suspended or expelled
than white students, according to the US Department of Education,
and in a lot of the black schools there's also
a heavy police presence. Metal detectors, so bailens, cameras and
what do they call that thing? Zero tolerance policies. That

(02:24:32):
environment mirrors a correctional facility. So what they're doing in
the schools is even in the decor, not decor, but
in the setting of the school. Those things are just named.
They're trying to prepare our young people for that. You
don't see that when you go into a school that's
stilled with white students. They're teaching white students how to

(02:24:55):
be leaders, how to run society, and they're teaching black
children how to be workers. Get yourself ready to go
to prison. So I think that's the purpose of all
of this. And yeah, I'll answer the question network, great question.

Speaker 1 (02:25:11):
All right, And after the top they are coy is
calling from Baltimore on line for Grand Rise and Coy
You're I'm a Docta Shockley, Good morning.

Speaker 16 (02:25:20):
I just wanted to Veggie back on said about celebrities, asked,
so call for last media leadists, you know about the rappers,
you know, not speaking about the positive of course, But
I just I think I said it once before.

Speaker 5 (02:25:35):
I believe that I really believe.

Speaker 16 (02:25:37):
We need a reparation movie done in twenty twenty five
in today's time, and show up, show us and show
why how I can get done through the government, how
we're going to live with it, how we accept it.
Some people are going to mess it up, some people
are going to do something with it. But it needs
to be shown. And we're going to show that. White
people are going to be afraid. They don't want to

(02:25:58):
see that movie because n w A did it back
in back in the eighties. They did that and they
didn't want to see it, and they told her they saw.
They're only telling you what we saw in our community,
and we're not speaking about what's going on to white
supremity that's going on right now. And like you say,
these black celebrity rappers and celebrity media leaders won't put
together and do that. They won't speak up. They won't

(02:26:19):
speak up.

Speaker 13 (02:26:20):
And I just want to get.

Speaker 5 (02:26:21):
Off the line.

Speaker 16 (02:26:21):
I just had to say that because this is truly
what I'm leaving in my heart. And I'm smart enough
to listen to ten ten they call Nelson Show every morning.
I'm not that I'm not a great educated person, but
I'm smart enough to listen to this show.

Speaker 8 (02:26:34):
I like to think.

Speaker 5 (02:26:38):
I like the when he put that you have to
have enough sense to know to listen to the crowd
Nelson Show exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:26:45):
But you know what, doctor seat, let me share something
with you. You know, once I was watching the news
with my mom and you know, the teaser, and this
something happened that my mom goes, wow, No, she goes, Lord, Jesus,
I hope it ain't a black person. And I was
sharing that with doctor with doctor Francis cres Wilson, and

(02:27:09):
doctor Willis says, that's the psychologist, that's that's how, that's
how warped the news When they see a black person,
we are hoping that it's not a black person. White
folks are already convinced before the person's face that it
is a black person. And that's the psychologet that we
have got to We've got to face it head on
it and somehow change that. How do you deal with
stuff like that? Because I'm sure my mom is not

(02:27:29):
the only one who when you know, she go, oh, Lord,
opening a black person.

Speaker 5 (02:27:35):
I mean, I think we all say that sometimes, and
I think part of the reason is because we know
that they are already attacking our image. We know that
if a black person does something it's like ten thousand
black people did it. If a white person does something,

(02:27:55):
that one white person did it. So we know that
there's going to be repercussions against people who are innocent,
who did absolutely nothing if that black person did something
they weren't supposed to do. And we also know that
they'll get to use that as a reason for the

(02:28:16):
punishments that we're receiving for just being alive. Really, but oh,
if this black person did something, there is an example.
Now you can see why we treat them the way
we treat them. So what we're really afraid of is
that when a black person does something wrong, we've given

(02:28:38):
data into the system of white supremacy.

Speaker 8 (02:28:42):
That the reason why we're.

Speaker 5 (02:28:43):
Being mistreated is because, oh, look at what X, Y
and Z did. So I think that's one of the
reasons while we're afraid of the images when it shows
a black person did something, and when, of course, whenever
a black person does something wrong, it's blown up for
everybody to see and talked about over and over again.

(02:29:04):
Oftentimes the first thing they want to do is to
put that person's image out there. When we have black
people doing something that does wrong, it's over emphasized when
a white person does something wrong, sometimes it's hard to
even find their image. Sometimes a white person kills a
black person or does something harmful to black people, you

(02:29:25):
have you have to search the internet high and low
sometimes to find what does that person look like? Where
does the person? Even then like you can't find information
about this. So I think that that's a sensible response
that I think we all have because we know that
we're under attack. What we're really saying, and what your

(02:29:45):
mom was saying in that example, is we're under attack,
and now they're going to have another piece of evidence
for the justification for it. We're really we're not committing
more crime than other peop They are putting more than
emphasis on anything wrong that black people do. Well, who

(02:30:09):
would expect something different in the system of racism white supremacy.
What doctor Welsing is saying, the biggest issue is that
white people fear genetic annihilation, and the biggest threat to
genetic annihilation is black genes. So we have to make
the black people into a bility. And then what did

(02:30:29):
she say? They go get a gun to replicate the
black male fallus, which represents the ability to wipe out
the black self, white the white population. So she used
to say in her lectures. I went to her seminars
for I don't know, fifteen years or so, and what
she used to say was that in the white mind,

(02:30:50):
you've got a weapon that can be used to wipe
me out. I need to get me a weapon too.
So this is all part of the war that we're in.
But I think sometimes we get exhausted thinking about it,
so we forget and when we start to focus on
all the symptoms of the war we're in. It's easier
to think about the symptoms because then you don't have

(02:31:12):
to actually figure out what you're going to do the
next day or that day to fight against the system
of racism white supremacy. So we just start talking about
where all the black people do do certain kinds of
things that are bad and wrong, because that's easier. You
can just start to blame black people and talk about
how much stuff we do. We don't have to deal
with that monster who's causing problems in all nine areas

(02:31:36):
of people activity. So yeah, I understand her sentiment, and
I say it myself all the time, and whenever I
watch the news, I say the same thing.

Speaker 1 (02:31:47):
It reinforces the stereotype, and that's the problem. That's a
major problem because that's how we know what they think
about us. So and when that happens, it's on display.
And it also you know, and doctor Wilson says, it
permeates our mind that you know, we're evil, we're bad,
and the TV shows us and every time you see

(02:32:08):
a black person in handcuffs on television, you know, it
reinforces what other people who don't know us think about us. So, yeah,
that's what's her response. But anyway, we've got some more
folks want to talk to you, doc. At fourteen after
the top of the hour, Junie's calling from Baltimore Online.
Five Grand Rising, JUNI, you're on with doctor Keviric Shockley.

Speaker 19 (02:32:28):
Well, Grand Rising Carl and doctor Ken Sharkly, and thank
you for taking the call. It's really asking your thoughts.
What are your thoughts about educators staying committed and personverering
with the children wherever they are, like Marva Collins did
when she was in Chicago and she started the West

(02:32:48):
Side Preparatory Academy.

Speaker 1 (02:32:50):
She was doing so.

Speaker 19 (02:32:51):
Excellent with the children there that they caught her The
nation caught her eye and They wanted her to meet
there and become the head.

Speaker 10 (02:33:01):
Of the.

Speaker 19 (02:33:03):
Educational system for the nation, and she turned it down
because she said, I want to stay committed to the
children in Chicago and see that they progress. And I
believe that's what is needed.

Speaker 5 (02:33:17):
More.

Speaker 19 (02:33:18):
We need to meet the children where they are and
guide them to where we want them to be with
excellence in education. Because our children are so superior. I
always said, you take the young person off the street
and give them the books, no one would be able
to stop them. Because we're mathematicians, we're scientists, were everything.

Speaker 5 (02:33:40):
So I'd like your thoughts on.

Speaker 19 (02:33:41):
That, because it's about solution. How can we as a people,
even if we do it one at a time, help
our young.

Speaker 5 (02:33:50):
People to move forward.

Speaker 19 (02:33:52):
Because yes, I was in the educational system as an educator,
and I agree with one hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (02:33:58):
We are leading the childre in two go to prisons.

Speaker 19 (02:34:01):
Unless we instill in them as babies. When I say babies,
the three, four or five year olds, because I was kindergarten,
you are headed, that you are excellent, you have a mind.
And some people would say, well, why are you telling
them that they need to know that that young and
because when they get older, we have we have to

(02:34:23):
really educate our parents because at one time back in
the seventies eighties and the babies raising babies, it's still
the same. So we all have to come together and
work together and stay committee that much to know your thoughts.
Because I thank you for everything that you have said.
It's all about the solutions. What are the solutions?

Speaker 1 (02:34:46):
I tell you what, Juny, I thank you for your call.
We've got to step aside for a few moments. I'll
let doctor Shaka give us his solutions when we get
back here, right, It is all about solutions. What can
we do? And I should tell that doctor Shacke also
works with teachers as well, helps them, you know, formulate
some of the issues that they need to be teaching.
Our young people eight hundred and four five zero seventy

(02:35:08):
eight to seventy six of them going to call speak
to our guests. He's an educator filmmaker. His name is
doctor Kemmick Shockley. We'll take a calls room next Grand
Rising family. Thanksually sticking with us on this Monday morning.
Thanks for starting your week with us. At twenty minutes
after the top of that, out of our guest educated
and filmmaker doctor Kemick Shockne doctor Shockey. You want to

(02:35:29):
respond to Junie's question.

Speaker 5 (02:35:32):
That was a great question. I appreciated a question, Juny.
But I think that Marvel Collins is a fantastic model
that we had out here, not just looking at you know,
just her success at Westside Prep when she where she
worked for all those years. I like what Juni said,
they try to take her out of the classroom. Notice

(02:35:54):
that thing once again, taking these people who work really
well with black students finding I'm kind of way to
separate them from black kids. That's a common theme in
her case, not to do something necessarily negative, but there's
always a theme of separating those people. I had. It
happened to me when I was trying to when I

(02:36:15):
was a graduate student at the University of Maryland College Park,
where the students wanted me to teach a class in
African American studies. I wanted to teach the class, and
they made sure they actually offered me more money to
not teach the class and instead become a research assistant
to keep me away from those young black folks. Those

(02:36:37):
were first year college students had had come into the
University of Maryland, and I would have been teaching them,
but they made sure I stayed away from them. It
was done for similar reason. But I think what she's
got there is as what we have actually in Marba
Collins is an example of educational sovereignty, thinking about like

(02:36:58):
how do we reclaim one of the things that you
Whenever a student takes a class from me, you're going
to learn about Marva Collins. I'm gonna make you see
how she was a critical thinker and how she taught
her kids to think critically. There's a problem that you
can watch free and sure I show it to any
class of folks who are going to become teachers of

(02:37:19):
black students. You can watch it free on YouTube. It's
called the Marva Collins Story. It really shows how a
person who thinks in a sovereign way and has the
self determination and has the sort of I guess you

(02:37:41):
sort of can think outside I can't think of the
right word, but can think outside the box and can
think in terms of resisting against the white supremacist system
and refusing to accept these racist assumptions that black children
were unteachable or that they're just simply deficient, and created

(02:38:02):
a school where she showed the exact opposite. I think
that's a fantastic example. Now every day we have people
doing many AMI and I versions of that all around
the country. I try to capture their stories because not
everybody is going to be as well known as Marva Collins.

(02:38:23):
Not everybody's gonna people aren't going to necessarily know about
other people who are doing these outstanding things. So I
captured some of that and put it in the Doctor series.
You know again, cultural War focused on black youth to
highlight those Marva Collins folks all around the country who

(02:38:44):
are still in practice today. So I am definitely a
fan of Marma Collins the work that she did when
she was a principal and founder of Westside Prep in Chicago.
I think we have to know though that we still
have that going on. But the reason why it's hard

(02:39:07):
to find that in the majority of teachers is because
the way that teachers are trained in colleges of education
is out that they train, They're not getting any information
on how to teach or reach black children. So you
can go through all this education in this college of education,

(02:39:28):
even through a PhD. You can get a bachelor's, master's
and a doctorate and never in most colleges of education, never, never,
never learn anything of how to teach and reach black children.
What they're teaching in those institutions is sort of how
to teach and reach white children. But they don't really

(02:39:50):
they're not really doing that fully either. They're teaching you
how to be compliant, how to be a compliant person
who knows how.

Speaker 4 (02:39:57):
To keep their job.

Speaker 5 (02:39:59):
So I totally agree that that Marvel Collins is a
fantastic example that we should know more about her, and
everybody who's listening that doesn't know who she is should
get online and look her up.

Speaker 1 (02:40:11):
So true twenty five at the top. I also look
up doctor John Za Kunjufu as well, written several books,
is Raising Black Boys and the other book Counting the
Conspiracy to Destroying Black Boys. But let me ask you this, though,
dot is it the educator's responsibility to do that or
is it the parents?

Speaker 5 (02:40:31):
Well? I think it's both. But you know, one of
the things I always say to educators is that you
know you're there's nothing anybody can do about the fact.
Well that's not true. There's there's little view as an
educator can do about the fact that the parents are

(02:40:51):
doing whatever they're doing, are doing or not doing whatever
they're not doing. All you can do is to be
the best edge you can be. Now, I've spent a
lot of my career teaching educators, and one of the
things that we really have as a major problem is

(02:41:13):
that the way that the teacher education programs work is
they create a sort of anti intellectualism within teachers. Now,
that's an awkward place to be to think that a
person who is teaching young people or you know, teacher,
you're a person who's about knowledge and information. But I

(02:41:37):
would say the overwhelming majority of the teachers that I
have taught have been anti intellectual, meaning that intellectual information
and information that relates to learning, reading, studying is not
where they are. They're not interested, not all of them,

(02:41:58):
but the overwhelming majority of it. And unfortunately, too many
of the principles that I've taught over the years have
been anti intellectual. So this means that we're getting people
who are attracted to working with kids who are not
really into thinking, reading, studying, and having knowledge and information

(02:42:23):
and can be easily turned off by that. So this
is the reason why parents have to step up and
be involved and engaged in what's happening with their young people.
But the community needs to understand that what happens to
a lot of people who come into schools is you're
being run around with and controlled by language that you

(02:42:46):
don't know. You don't know what they're talking about, so
you're unable to give responses that would help your child
in their learning. The way you deal with that is
you ask questions until you do understand. If somebody says
something like pedagogical fortitude, well, you don't know what that is,

(02:43:09):
so stop and say what was that word you said? Oh,
I was talking about pedagogical fortitude, it could you explain
what that means? Keep asking questions until you understand, because
a lot of times things are being said that if
you only knew what was being said, you'd be very angry.
So they could just kind of talk in circles around you.

(02:43:30):
But at the same time, they're anti intellectual, so they
don't have enough information oftentimes about what they're saying to
even go to back it up if you started asking
questions about it. The other thing you can do is
to take somebody into the school with you who can
listen to what they're saying and be able to respond
to it, because unfortunately, an anti intellectual person is not

(02:43:55):
they're typically not really all that concern. They're not concerned
about your child in the right way that they're they're not.
They're going to talk about the way your child acts
in school, but you can't ask the question about what
kind of teaching, what kind of teaching strategies are being

(02:44:15):
used to reach your child. So they might be standing
at a lectern expecting your child to take notes while
they talk. You think you're kind of person who is
twelve or fourteen learned that way. But you if you've
got somebody weak, you can question the strategies that are
being used. That's going to help you. But if you

(02:44:36):
don't understand what teaching strategies are being used, if you can't,
you don't have a way of really getting into that.
You can't have that conversation, and you're just going to
walk away from the school. But what are their days,
which oftentimes is very little, thinking something's wrong with your child,
thinking they need to be in special education, et cetera,
because you don't know how to ask questions. So the

(02:44:58):
Lajor solution to all of this is Africa centered education
and African centered learning, because African centered schools don't behave
in that way at all. So I think it's really
important to understand what is being taught with regard regard
to But the way that people think of black education

(02:45:18):
is like things like compliance. So teachers who work in
black schools are under compliance. Make sure you do what
you're supposed to do in this school, test, CREP, make
sure the kids are ready for the test, and control.

(02:45:39):
Make sure you do exactly what we tell you to
do or you could lose your job. In white schools,
those are emphasizing critical thinking, teaching you how to think,
not necessarily teaching you what to think, but teaching you
processes and the principles of critical thinking and creativity. How

(02:46:02):
can teaching white children how to run the society through
critical thinking, creativity and expiation? Those are emphasized in white schools,
where like like I said, in black schools, compliance, test, preference, control,
because we're trying to get you ready for various different things. Prison,
low level jobs, a lifestyle that doesn't promote thinking, a

(02:46:26):
lifestyle that doesn't promote being able to engage in things
that are going to help the black community. So inside
of a mind of a person too many and most
and many teachers who teach black students. That's the kind
of atmosphere that is that is in the school there.

Speaker 13 (02:46:47):
It's not a.

Speaker 5 (02:46:49):
It's like sign in at eight, if you go out
for lunch, sign out again, then sign in. When you
come back in. You feel unfree. You don't feel like
you even have the ability to fully think during the day.
They'll give you time to think. That's not what's going
on in the white school. Do you even have to

(02:47:10):
sign the plenty of time to think, plenty of time
to employ the different things that they're asking you to do. Well,
it's a different type of person who's teaching in these atmospheres,
and we need to understand that.

Speaker 1 (02:47:24):
All right, Tiny heead away from Latapa. I guess there's
doctor Keemis. Shockley's an educator also a filmmaker. You like
to speak to him, reach out to us at eight
hundred and four or five zero seventy eight to seventy six.
And brothers say, Coup has done that, and he's calling
from Baltimore's online too. Gran Rising brother say Coup, you're
on with.

Speaker 10 (02:47:41):
Doctor Shockley, John Boo, No, johnst.

Speaker 9 (02:47:49):
My question is two fold, Doctor Amos Wilfu said that
the primary function of education is just the sphere of
people's about by solving their problems, not bad their oppressors
for jobs. Do you agree with that?

Speaker 4 (02:48:09):
For ya?

Speaker 6 (02:48:10):
I do.

Speaker 5 (02:48:13):
So.

Speaker 9 (02:48:14):
It seems to me a lot of educators, not necessarily you,
but they come on these talk shows and they dance
around the issue of African That's what I plink our
children need. And I've been volunteering the public school system

(02:48:34):
here in Baltimore for like the last four or five years,
and I see that I get to meet any I'm saying,
any classroom instructure that are black African Senate, they're not.
They're Eurocentric. And that's the problem the curriculus. It's not
that our children can't learn, they don't want to learn

(02:48:54):
that bs that they've been teaching from day one.

Speaker 5 (02:49:00):
Well, I think that you know, approximately, I think it
was the last time I checked, maybe about a year ago,
about six percent of the teachers in public schools were black.
But black students are like seventeen eighteen percent of the
student population. Of that six percent of teachers that are black,

(02:49:24):
one or two percent of them are black males. There
aren't a very many black teachers in the schools. Unfortunately, unfortunately,
when we do have black teachers in schools, oftentimes most
often they're not African centered. So the school systems are

(02:49:44):
really good at causing teachers to be so busy with
everything that they don't even have a chance to think
about anything, let alone cultural stuff trying to figure out
ways so that I can make sure my student are
getting culturally appropriate education. The public school systems are really

(02:50:06):
bad at causing teachers to be extraordinarily busy. I mean,
we're talking about some of the busiest people in the society.
You're not just teaching, you're also doing everything thrown out forms,
making sure there's differentiated information for different students, going to

(02:50:26):
meetings about special ed students that may or may not
even be your student, going to meetings when you're supposed
to be planning, You're supposed to have time to plan,
but you're in a meeting, so you don't have time
to plan, so you have to go home and plan, etc.
So Yeah, it's very difficult did to say to help
teachers understand, but part about having a cultural and African

(02:50:50):
centered education piece shouldn't be seen in the same light
as these other things. Because your job is to reach
black students.

Speaker 4 (02:50:59):
They can't fully hear that because they're being.

Speaker 5 (02:51:02):
Run around in major circles and busy as heck trying
to do everything, including dealing with behaviors, the behaviors of administration,
being under the gun when it comes to things like evaluation.
So we have a system designed that is designed. They
know this is a design to cause these folks to

(02:51:25):
not be able to think long enough to be able
to address any and any of the things we're talking about. Now,
the light of the school school system is, or the
school institution is the more time teachers have to think,
address issues and to kind of make get your mind

(02:51:46):
into a place where you can do the planning that
needs to be done so you can truly reach the children.
So it's it is. It is a problem that our
teachers are not African centered. It is also designed so
that they can't get there because they are being bombarded.

(02:52:08):
But then so it becomes an issue of the community.
What the community needs to do is to sort of
a redemand that our teachers learn in such a way
that they can reach black children. The community has to
make that demand, and sometimes the community has made that
demand and it's gone on met Steel, but I don't
think there's enough pressure on the system to make sure

(02:52:30):
our teachers are able to meet the needs of our
young people.

Speaker 1 (02:52:33):
All right, hold that though, right there, that's the episode
for one last time. And Ramon in DC's got a
question for you. Family. YouTube can join our discussion with
doctor Kevin Shockley. He's an educator also a filmmaker as well.
You can reach us at eight hundred and four five
zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take all your
phone calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks for ruling
for us on this Monday morning. Thanks movie, you know,

(02:52:55):
using us as part of your morning richel again. I
guess is doctor Kemick Shockley's an educator and also maker
discussing education, especially Pan African education African centered education. Eight
hundred and four or five zero seventy eight is i'mna
call speak to doctor Shaqui. Ramon's reaching out to us.
He's calling from Washington, DC's on line three at Grand
Rise in Ramoni, You're I'm with doctor Shakli.

Speaker 8 (02:53:17):
Grand Rise and made a higher powers best both of you.
I call this system. I call this system white toxicity.
I know that when Minister Lewis Farakhan went over the seas.
I believe it was Libya, and when he was coming
back they he won. The president of Libya wanted to

(02:53:37):
give him a billion dollars to help African American people
in this country. And I know that we talk about
the rappers and actors and so forth and so on,
but I believe that if and the basketball players and
all of them, I believe that it's all about resources,

(02:53:59):
and if our kids don't have the resources that they need,
I believe the solution is if we had a committee
that could at least give one percent of what the actors,
the the basketball players, the rappers and so forth and

(02:54:20):
so on go into that, we would have almost a
billion dollars if they only gave one percent.

Speaker 6 (02:54:28):
I don't know if we can have any power.

Speaker 8 (02:54:30):
Structure could come up with that type of thing, because
we need our own system. Because I remember I forgot
who it was in wol It was years ago. He
was on. He was on and car you probably know
who I'm talking about, older gentleman.

Speaker 5 (02:54:48):
He was on.

Speaker 8 (02:54:49):
He used to be the talk show hosts on w
o L and he went the XM satellite. I forgot
his name. Who passed away not too long ago. But anyway,
I remember he had a host of a guest on
and he said that, uh, there are over in ran.
Uh they caught some uh people that I guess they

(02:55:12):
were either dressed up as a red cross or so
forth and so on. Uh, but they were inspecting the
babies with aids. We don't we don't really grasp that this.
We need to get out of this system as.

Speaker 1 (02:55:27):
Much, right ramon dus if I have a putting a
question for him so he can respond, got some folks
got questions for him.

Speaker 8 (02:55:32):
Okay, so so so how so how do we come
up because we because the the the white But my
question is this white people have like uh uh mafia
movies and gangster movies and so forth, and so on
and and and and they go back to their community
and build their community. How do we uh not demonize

(02:55:54):
the rappers and the and the actors and so forth
and so on because the white people were doing it
in the same way to that our people are doing it.

Speaker 6 (02:56:02):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (02:56:03):
Maybe we go a little bit of stream, but how
do we tap into how do we organize the one
percent of the resources that they make so that we
can don't depend on these public uh demonic schools that
in our kids the jail. How do how do we
organize those resources from those people? And I'll listen and

(02:56:24):
take my question here.

Speaker 5 (02:56:28):
Thank you, Thank you for the question, brother. I appreciate
the question. I understand the question and the sentiment, and
I agree that if we had one percent of our
wealthiest focuses UH, if we had one percent of our
wealthiest focuses money to use toward education or other important projects,

(02:56:49):
we would be in better condition. I think the thing
we have to keep in mind once again, and that
is that there is an actual and real war. So
when when the system of white supremacy puts give someone
millions of dollars an actor whatever it is they're doing,

(02:57:12):
entertainer of some sort, When they get millions of dollars
for that, they're not saying, here's millions of dollars, enjoy
your money.

Speaker 10 (02:57:21):
Now.

Speaker 5 (02:57:21):
Those people are under watch. Those people are under being watched.
They're not going to be able to do whatever they
want to with those funds. So I think it's not
I would definitely not discourage somebody if they try to
organize the wealthiest of the black people to put their

(02:57:41):
money into the black community. I would think that if
they had any success, that they would probably be at
serious risk their life because we're in a system of
white supremacy and only certain people can even have any
real money. So if you're going to have if you're
going to have real money enough to really make influence

(02:58:03):
and do something in the society, you're going to be
watched to see how you're using that money. If you're
using it to help black people, you might end up
losing something like what happened with Bill Cosby. So Bill
Cosby didn't go to jail. I don't think this is
personal thing. I don't think I had anything to do
with any women. I think it had to do with

(02:58:23):
the fact that he was trying to do things that
were a problem for the system of white supremacy.

Speaker 18 (02:58:29):
And he proved that he could do it with some
of the things he put on television.

Speaker 5 (02:58:34):
So you get yourself in trouble try to do that.
I'm not against it. I think it's great, and I'm
not against your notion, but I think we have to
understand how serious the system is, particularly and especially about
black people. The system is very serious about making sure
that we don't do certain things with our money and
our time. So no, not against your idea. I would

(02:58:55):
love to see it happen.

Speaker 8 (02:58:57):
We just have to.

Speaker 5 (02:58:57):
Figure out how to do that under under the current system.

Speaker 1 (02:59:04):
Right ten away from the topic, I'm gonna jump in here.
Good question. One of our psychiatrists told us that black
students learn differently than white students. I don't want to
get to your response to it, because you're in the
educational field. I'm not quite sure if he said our
students are more visual auditory, but there's a difference, so
that most of the teachers don't take this into consideration.

(02:59:24):
And your thoughts dock.

Speaker 5 (02:59:26):
Well, they trained black people in many ways to think
that saying that white, black and white children learn differently
is a bad thing, because everybody has this idea that
whatever it is white people, white students, white communities are doing,
it's better. So somebody says that, well, black children need

(02:59:47):
sort of call and response or teaching that connects all
the dots together and not just sees things as desperate
disparate parts. That black children learn better, communal learning circle
kind of you know, intergenerational storytelling and things of that nature.
Then somebody is saying, oh, well, you're saying that they
don't learn as well. So what the afrocentric schools have

(03:00:09):
shown us is that yes, black students learn, they enjoy learning,
and they learn differently, that they have different ways of
learning things, and that they connect things differently, and there's
no problem with that. But white children are taught that
they are the standard. They're taught that we you know,
that whatever they do is the thing that you need

(03:00:31):
to reach for. And so it kind of creates the
problem of whenever we say that they learn differently, that
causes all kinds of issues. But yes, white children and
white children tend to learn differently, and we all there's
a book that a said here. You know, her name
is Janice Hale. It's called Black Children Their Roots, Culture

(03:00:54):
and Learning Style, and it has in there the ways
that black children tend to learn best. I think it's
really important for anybody who teaches black children to read
that book become familiar with the things that black children
respond well to know and like about Asthian Hillary. Actually,

(03:01:17):
I love book that I'm writing on as here that
will be finishing up at the end of the year.
But one of the things that Asa Hillary taught is
that we already know how to reach black children. Lisa Dulfitt,
who is a really well known educator. She's in the
film that I did as well. And once she said,
she said, I'm not doing any more research or attending

(03:01:38):
any more white conferences. She said, because we already know
what we need to do to reach black children, and
they're simply refusing to do it. So what is that
happening in education? And I said this before when I
was on this show. We actually had a solution for

(03:02:00):
reaching black children. We're having and I know people aren't
used to that. You just think we have problems, we
don't know what to do. We had solution to reaching
black children.

Speaker 1 (03:02:14):
All I thought right there, because they raised the clock
and we got one more call for you before we
get out of here. Seven away from the top of
the are. Since the Kashiva is checking in from Silver
Spring in Maryland, she's online too, Grand Rising Sister Kashiba
with Docta Shokley. Since the Kashiba there, Yeah, I'm here.

Speaker 20 (03:02:32):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (03:02:33):
Okay, yeah, we can hear it?

Speaker 20 (03:02:34):
Now, go ahead, yeah, okay, Carl, I think you're the
best ancients. Maybe swice bread that hit this continent or
this world and and I want to just keep on
doing what you're doing. Oh my god, I wanted to say,
I'm I had a career, business does tire out, and

(03:03:01):
we need new curriculums. But the one thing I wanted
to ask him is do you think we need Saturday schools?
We need schools outs. We're paying our taxes for these schools.

Speaker 6 (03:03:12):
I know.

Speaker 20 (03:03:14):
Public schools, but I think we need learning outside of
that environment.

Speaker 1 (03:03:20):
What about that's give a chance to respond, thank you? This
is the Casino, doc, I'm totally.

Speaker 5 (03:03:27):
In agreement with that. Saturday academies, freedom schools where our
young people are learning things like African history, ethics, leadership
from community elders and scholars, because then we can bring
in all the things that we know our children need
for them having to ask the very people who want
to go to war with us and make sure that

(03:03:49):
they're not learning things that they need to learn how
to control their communities. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (03:03:55):
And docfore we let you go, How can folks reach you?
And if you can tell some of the names of
books and some of the films that you've done.

Speaker 5 (03:04:04):
Sure, I've got several of those. There's a book that
I did about three years ago called African Centered Education
Theory and Practice. I think that's one. I did one
even before that called The Miseducation of Black Children The
Miseducation of Black Children. Actually that book was published by

(03:04:27):
Juwanza Qunjufu's publishing press, African American Images. And then I've
got one called Pan Africanism in the twenty first Century
that I did the Baruchi Katambo. I have a book
coming out probably somewhere around. It's going to be finished
in December to come out in February, so it's going
to be about a Hilliards. Also out are two documentaries.

(03:04:51):
One is a docuseries it's called Cultural War focused on
Black youth to the Amazon Prime, Apple TV Plus, and
a number of other ones that are slightly smaller outlets.
And then he also I did a book called I
mean a documentary called for Humanity, Culture, Community and Marionage,

(03:05:13):
which is about the Maroons, the world's first group of
Maroons in Columbia, South America, that you can watch on
app I'm sorry, on Yahoo, I'm sorry with YouTube, sorry YouTube,
you can watch it on YouTube. I also I'm going
to be doing some seminars in a lot of different
places focus on education in black youth. I don't have

(03:05:34):
a flyer for those, but if you'd like to get
information on it, you can always email me. My email
address is K. Shackle, not Shakle, just K Shackle K
S H O C K L E at yahoo dot com.
And of course I'm on LinkedIn as well under doctor KMT. Shockley.

Speaker 1 (03:05:57):
All Right, thank you, doc, thanks for all the information
to share with us today, and thank you for all
the information over the years, including the documentaries that you
produce for our people.

Speaker 4 (03:06:06):
Indeed, Santi all right.

Speaker 1 (03:06:09):
Family, Sante classes, dismiss family, Stay strong, stay positive, please
stay healthy. We'll see you tomorrow morning, six o'clock right
here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB, and also in
the DMV on FM ninety five point nine and AM
fourteen fifty WOL. Where information is Power

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