Guy Torry on “Phat Tuesday” & Healthy Relationships

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Grand Rising, family, and welcome to Wednesday, and thanks you
waking up with us again. Later, actor comedian Guy Tory
will check into our classroom. Guy will share his journey
from being a stand up comedian to a TV and
movie star. Guy will also discuss his documentary Fat Tuesday.
Before Guy entrepreneur and activist doctor Rosy Melligan to explain
how the importance of healthy relationships in the black communities

(00:22):
needed more than ever these days. Also, writer Simeon Booker
Muhammad will report on a recent UFO conference momentarily Gaveit's
brother Seango bay A and Chief Fode calling in from
Syria loan from the U n I A A c.
L discuss scientific pan Afganism. Well, let's get Kevin Lank
for classroom doors this morning, Grand Rising, Kevin here ye.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Here ye yeah, good, Good morning, girl.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Nelson.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
I just took a sip of my Rise mushroom coffee. Man,
I'm telling you it makes the morning go great. So
I'm recommending everybody get a glass of water and and
get you a cup of coffee and sit back and
listen to the show. The Carl Nelson Show. University is
now open. How you feeling professor.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I'm still learning. I'm still learning. Brother, Well, professors are
waiting for us today. I'm just like a student. I
just got a front row seat. That's all I can
dig that.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
But you know, education brings elevation, so you know, raise
your consciousness.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Man, We're ready today. We're ready for you. All right.
What's training in the news this morning, Well, let's.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Start with the dinner. A night out at dinner for
the president. He decided that he was going to dine
at Joe's Seafood, Prime Steak and Stone Crab in Washington,
d C. And there's your plug, Joe. And it was
his first time eating in the district since he's taken

(01:58):
office in January. And he was joined by Secretary of
State Marco Rubio and Vice President a guy we don't
talk about often, jd. Vance and Defense Secretary Pete heck Saith.
So they were like they made a night of it.
I guess it was a guy's night. And they didn't
bring any ladies with them. But upon entering the restaurant,

(02:21):
Trump was met with the applause from diners, and the
President remarked to the group gathered in the dining room
that DC is a safe city and you should enjoy
yourself tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Let me jump in here for a second. I'm at
you know, first of all, the restaurant had to know
he was coming to had to infor him. They had
to sweep the restaurant, so it's probably stacked, and they
probably stacked with all his supporters. So they gets and
it's an applause, yeah, and they probably did. Is free
and it's all stage, all theater, you know, so it's
not like all of a sudden you're there having a
meal and Trump and his boys walking. This is all stage.

(02:59):
This is what he you know. Just to draw attention
to the fact that since the National Guard has increased
patrols and also the FBI, remember those guys are also
on the streets of Washington, DC. Things are safer now,
so you can die. Because people were saying that the
people still didn't want to go out because of all
the military presence on the streets of Washington, d C.

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So that was the counterac that move there.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Well, those military kids, I'm gonna call them kids, Carl.
I saw a bunch of them yesterday. You know, they
kind of walk in teams. You know, there's either it's
either two or four generally that I've been seeing, and
you know, they got their uniform, they get the guns.
And I looked at this young man yesterday and I

(03:44):
was like, he must be eighteen, I think, and he's
got a gun. And then there was one guy with
the gun and he had the canteen and something that
looked like it held hand grenades. And also, do you
really need I didn't say, but I was looking at it.
Do you really need that much equipment if you're merely

(04:06):
browsing up and down the street. Pretty much, they looked
like sightseers, armed sights seris to me man sight tourists.
And some of them looked like I wish I was home.
You could see it on their face. But the president
was out at dinner last night, sands the National Guard
around him, and he said that you'll go home tonight

(04:27):
and you won't get mugged, So you know, you can
leave a good tip. I guess if you're not gonna
get mugged.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, you should find out if they're paid, you know,
but they'll probably say the pay you're going to get
is all the publicity now it's all over the world
that he grant nothing happened, and he got applause going in,
but there were some protests. Some folks found out he
was there, the group were there. Did you see that
in the report?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yes, according to see it in politics. As he was
sitting down to dine, you know, pulling out the na
aapkin and stuffing it in his collar or something, he
was approached by protesters chanting free d C and free Palestine,
and a handful of protesters began chanting Trump is the
hitler of our time.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah. Man.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
The protesters booed h and oh, and some of the
people who were cheering him at first told the protesters
you should leave, and speaking to the reporters on.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Side because they were stage actors, but go ahead. But
speaking to.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
The reporters before all of this happened, Trump said to
see Ann, the crackdown on DC crime was instrumental in
his decision to dine out. See you know, I mean
it makes you, it makes.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
The challenge family and Kevin. We'll see how much of
it's fully reported, you know, how much will they talk
about will they show the booze the protesters? As Brannon
earlier this week says, you know the media has taken
a knee for Trump, so they refused to, you know,
report anything. The full story of what happened. You'll see
you will probably see on your news this morning that

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he went to this restaurant in DC with his cabinet
members and they had a good time, and what he
said and how people applauded again stage actors when he
came in. But they probably won't show, but probably they
may mention it he was met by some detractors when
he left.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Well that's actually that's actually two different stories though, you know, Okay,
there you go, right, if you're covering the president coming
out to dine, you cover the president coming out to dine.
But I guess then the second half of the story
because according to this article on CNN, they they said
they obtained a video and there is a picture here

(06:41):
of the lady with a sign saying Palaestine and it
looks like a black powered fist too, And so at
least it's there's a photograph or still photograph here on
the web page. But you know, time permitting, we can't
show that video. Yeah, depends on you know who edit

(07:02):
is is murderch round on that and look in other
news man, I'm from News one. The Supreme Court rules
Ice can engage in racial profilely Sonya Sodamayr, who made
history as the first Hispanic justice on the Supreme Court,
said the Court's ruling pose a threat not just to
undocumented foreigners, but to Americans of Hispanic dissent. So the

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Supreme Court has placed itself at the center of America's
ongoing battle over race, immigration, and constitutional freedoms.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Your thoughts, well, exactly what Brandon was saying, that you know,
if they cant be okay to do that, they can
stop you. You know, it's basically stopping frisk If you
look look at Latino. We have a number of brothers
and sisters who in our community, one who are Afro
Latino and two who look not Africa, don't have any
Hispanic roots, but they look they what if that look

(07:56):
is look like Hispanic?

Speaker 4 (07:58):
You know?

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Do you know our rage We go from from what
doctor Wilson calls crystal back to damn near white, you
know the rest range that we have and and somewhere
in between that there's that brownish color like many of
our Latin brothers have, and some of us may get
picked up, so who knows that's brown was saying that's
the next stage after they finished collecting all of them

(08:21):
who are here illegally. And and then what's what's the
next move? Do they brought it? Do they come after us?

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Like I said, these youngsters, all they need to do
is hear someone say.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Hey, kay, potsa me go.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Next thing, you know that they're putting handcuffs on you, like,
wait a minuteute, hold on, I'm from DC.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Right, and there's a whole bunch of folks who have
you know, they have Latin roots, but they were born
here there. You know, they're citizens, and they may get
caught up in those sweeps too.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Right exactly, even as they're doing their job of I
don't know, cutting up the shrubs or something. And in
a controversial six the three ruling divided on ideological lines,
and we can imagine who the six are and who
the three are. The court overturned a lower court order
that had had blocked Immigration and Customs Enforcement better known

(09:12):
as ICE, from conducting roving raids in Los Angeles, and
at the heart of the decision lies a dangerous precedent
that now allows the government to stop, question and detain
individuals based solely on their ethnicity, language, occupation, or physical location.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
What yep. And you're going to see more of that
and more six to three decisions because you know, one
of the things is sad to say, Kevin is you
know in the family. You know already know as well.
It's got the Supreme Court in his back pocket. If
he's ruled against the end the lower courts, he just
appeals to the Supreme Court. They'll lower turn. Event they're
not worried because they know they're Supreme Court is going

(09:54):
to rubber stamp anything that they does. Anything they do.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
And the Court provided no tailed explanation for the decision,
which came accompanied with a sharp dissent from the three
liberal judges. Justice Brett Kavanaugh issued a concurrence defending the
ruling and arguing that while ethnicity alone cannot constitute probable cause,
a combination of factors such as language, type of work,

(10:22):
and location could amount to reasonable suspicion of undocumented status.
So what job is that that would make you look suspicious?

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah? Well right, they've giving them the green light, n
you know, just to go after anybody who they think
looks Spanish or looks working at a job that only
Spanish people do. Spanish speaking people do. So that's all
that is. I mean it was coming down. I mean,
this is the America we live in today. Wow, there

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was no surprise here.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
So finally, finally, not to hold up all of your time.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
JD.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Vance talks illegal immigration, drugs, and he's visiting the Milwaukee
Police Union and Advance used his stop to campaign on
public safety issues, expressing support for law enforcement and blaming
the policy of the Biden administration for drug over of

(11:19):
adose deaths and drug cartel activity. He blamed the Biden administration.
But another clever thing that he did, I'm calling it clever,
you know, because they're trying to program people. He said
that he continually spoke of Kamala Harris as the Harris administration,
and he went after Vice President Harris's prosecutory old record

(11:45):
during her time as San Francisco District Attorney. If you
look at Kamala Harris's record as a prosecutor, it's the
opposite of being tough on crime. He said, So what
do you think.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, folks who are upset because they claimed she were
sending too many people to jails, again, all that's deflection.
If you notice that their default move is anything that
goes wrong, it's Biden anything, or even go back as
far as Obama, but they don't take personal responsible. Even
the current economic situation. Now that's that was Biden's fault.

(12:17):
I think people are now just getting up to get
just fed up with that. Just Trump fatigue if you
call that, I'll just coin that phrase. Because there's too
much of this dude, and it's too much and everything,
everything's just negative it. You know, maybe we need to
have him sit on somebody's couch and explain to us
what's going on, because people people, it's a huge turnoff. Kevin,

(12:37):
whenever you hear stuff like that, it's just a huge
turn off. People don't want to hear that stuff anymore
because because we already know what's what he's gonna say.
He's never he's never gonna cop that it's my fault.
We take response with that, we did this, this is wrong,
We're gonna fix it. No, never, it's somebody always somebody else.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, that's right. But if you point one finger, they're
three pointing back at you. That's what they used to
say back in the day. But that was Vance's first
visit to Milwonkee since the Republican National convention back in July,
and that's what's happening today, Wednesday, the thirteenth of September.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Thank you God, Thanks Kevin, thanks for feeling us in
so we know what's going on in the world today.
Let's bring in brother Sango by A and Chief Chief
four Day is checking in from Syria. A long grand
rising brothers. Welcome back to the program.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, a grand rising race first brother and uh yeah, agreedients.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Chief four Day. Let me ask you, because you're you're
in Serial leone, you hearing the stuff that kicks.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Before you do that, I want to I want to
set the stage properly in terms of the topic sece,
scientific Pan Africanism, and then and then we can go
to Chief Foe Day if possible.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, I just want to ask him a question, though
sangs a whole on a second, I just want to
ask a question. You heard the conversation Kevin that I
had is that the is those conversations being discussed in serially.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
On somewhat somewhat people here are relating to what's happening
in America as it relates to them. So people are
more concerned with you know, visas and how you know,
being able to enter and they're very concerned with ice
and things like that. So the conversation is going on,

(14:21):
but I don't think the people here really have a
diagnosis or understanding of this site. It's our coaches of
Donald Trump and his current administration.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Gotcha, brother god Oh?

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yes, Well, like I said, scientific pan Africanism, and I
understand your question, but it is important for us to
stay focused on what we need to do in terms
of Race First, because RUGU is going to continue to
do what RUGU does to try to divert us away
from our rise. Yesterday being nine nine nine was very
important to day. Nine represents the completion of man and woman.

(14:57):
It's time for those of us to understand what needs
to be done to do it and stop playing around
with those who are not yet clear on how important
scientific pan Africanism is. So let me just make it
clear if everybody understands when we talk about scientific pan Africanism,
we're talking about the redemption, reclamation and restoration of Pan Africanism.

(15:20):
Brother m Hochef Faci, who is one of the founders
or the leader of the Pan African Liberation Movement is
hosting the Race First Convention, has done a very very
great job in putting a book together that clarifies all
of that. I won't go all into that, but I
will say the Race First Convention is an opportunity for

(15:42):
you to get that book come out and hear from
some of the gigantic people that will be present. Many
organizations that are Race First are coming together to sit
down at a convention, not a conference, not a talk shop,
but a workshop. System of rit Bin will be there.
People like Brother Barruti, wallymoo Baruti, Brother Khalil Bay, Brother

(16:07):
Eya Shanko, and mister McKinney of Appeal un i AIS
twenty twenty leadership will be there, myself, the President of
General and many many other organizations and institutions. And it starts.
Day one is September to twenty sixth, from five pm
to eight thirty pm meeting Greek that will be at

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five five two five Parkford Road, Baltimore, Maryland. Day two
is the big day from noon to five thirty pm
Eastern Standard time. The convention will be in session at
Baltimore Unity Hall at fifteen o five Utah Place, Baltimore, Maryland.
And then day three we will continue at three thirty

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pm at the same location and for people to register,
which is no cost. They can go to www dot
p L ninety five or now. The reason I shared
this is because it's a call being made to race
first people to come together to get this work done.
You have the ancestors have called is to do. So

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that segues right into my good brother Chief Foge, who
is based on the continent in serial leone and is
also the third assistant President of General along with myself
the service purposes in President General of the U and
I ahl all.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Right right and hull Lef thought right there, Brother Sengo,
we got to step aside for a few moments. We'll
come back. I'll let you introduce Chief Pote Formula to
the family. Eighteen minutes after the top day our family,
just checking in. Our guest is brother sing Goo bay
a Chief Phoda is also with us from Sirira Loan.
You got questions about Panaganism. These are the fellows you
need to speak to at eight hundred four five zero
seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls

(17:45):
next and Grand Rising family, thanks for waking up with
us on this Wednesday morning. So humpday we're halfway through
the work week with our guest. We have two goffee
heights with us this morning. We have Brother Singo Baye
based in Washington, DC and also Chief Fode who's in
Serial leone. So Brother Sean go, I'll let you fit
leach what you were about to say before we left
for the break.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Yeah. Well, like I said, this Race First conference is
coming up, but there's a tremendous amount of things going
on worldwide. The reason I invited Chief foe De to
come on this morning is because he has a tremendous
ebook that everybody should get, particularly here in the US
but around the world that deals with the importance of

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the Gullah culture and how important that history is tied
to us moving towards sovereignty. Chief fo Dat will explain
what the book is about, which is very important. It
connects to the Race First work that we're doing because
we need to educate our people and to return to

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our roots, heritage and culture in order to move forward
to gain sovereignty. So we can address the issue of
the oppression of the Yurugu. We can't do it the
other way. We can always talk about them, we can
complain about them, but unless we do the work that
we're called to you, we're never going to solve those
issues and problems of the oppression. But we know to

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counter racism and white supremacy as they call it, we
need to raise up with race first and to move
towards sovereignty reclaiming Africa. So, without any further ado, my
brother Chief Foe Day will explain. He does a lot
of things, but this particular work is what he's on
this morning to talk about. It's important for people to
get this book. It's very easy to get. It's a

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very powerful book that will educate us on some connections
of practical Pan Africanism, and that's what the topic is,
Scientific pan Africanism.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
Chief fo Dat Yes meetings, thank you, thank you very
much for the intro. I want to say first of
all that if you can and you're out there, go
get that Scientific pan Africanism for my brother by m
Hotel out of Baltimore, the Pan African Liberation Movement LIE
because what we're doing now as leaders of the movement

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is bringing forth our intellectual contribution to the current struggle
that's happening today. And it's very important to update the
information and provide new analysis, even though we're dealing with
the same jorogle and we're dealing with the same basic
contradictions from time to time. This is one of those times.
So when we say scientific, what we mean is organized

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and objectively based right as opposed to unscientific or sporadic
and subjectives. And so this book that I'm offering as well,
called gol Sovereignty, African Communalism and the Mandane Caful Model,
is also a contribution to the reformation of Pan African

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political philosophy. You'll understand because so far you'll find Pan
Africans all around the world and we're using the philosophy
of the enemy to rebuild our own communities and to
address power relations. My book addresses highlights the goulor Gieche
people of you know, of North America. We're a subgroup,
a cultural group, an ethnic group of African Americans, just

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like you would say, for instance, the Creole community in Louisiana.
We're distinguished by our language and our lineages, but at
the same time, we do have a culture. And so
there's something called cultural sovereignty that even the international world
recognizes that all people have a human right to And

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so scientifically and according to the law, we've been able
to identify ethnic group and put us into the position
of a vegitimate ethnic group like any other group in
the world and organized accordingly. So this book here I
observed what's called the Mandang model, a Mandang caful model.
The Mandan caful model was produced by the Mandang people

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of West Africa. The largest group of the Mandang people
are the Mandanka, but there's over one hundred groups, including
the Menda, the Carenco, the Bambara. All of these groups
are Mandang groups and they organize themselves a certain way.
They organize themselves for political and economic empronment based on kinship,
based on kinship, and they have a three model system.

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So I go into this model system so that we
can begin to look at it as a reference as
we begin to put our families together. They're in the
United States, they're in Jamaica, here in cyril Leon, all
around the world where our families have been obliterated by
your Google system. So this book is contributing that aspect

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to it, the Mandan model, because this is the model
that was the bedrock of the Mali Empire. Everybody in
the Mali Empire was organized based on the Mandane caful model,
which has a lou which is the extended family level
of identity and political self. Then you also have the
Google which is the village level. And then you also

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have at the end the CAFU which is the klan level.
The klan level and kinship base allows us to identify
ourselves based on our bloodlines and based on our villages
no matter where we are at in the world, and
hints were able to begin to operate outside of the
sovereignty or the suffaration of our enemy if we begin
to go back to our roots and apply these models,

(23:11):
as you begin to have these race first convinces, as
you begin to have these pan African conferences, that we
go back to our traditional greatness not only in Comets,
not only in the Congo, not only in your in
the Yoruba culture or the a Khan, but also the
Mandan culture, which I believe produced the greatest three civilizations
in West Africa history in the same place that you

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see the sy Heill Revolution taking place today with the Aes.
So there is a revival movement also happening in West
Africa involving sovereignty. And so this is my contribution.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
All right twenty eight after the top down, Bron Sanko.
If the listener says what is scientific pan Africanists and
would you what would be your response?

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Well, as I said, it's very important to read, but
this would be my response, and I want everybody to
listen clearly. Last, Scientific pan Africanism is a clarification of
Pan Africanism. It is fundamentally and revolutionary ideology designed to
usher in African sovereignty as a liberatory careasiti, scientific pan

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Africanism is designed to fulfill the following One raised black consciousness,
two develop authentic black leadership. Three take a revolutionary stance
against white terrorism, racism, capitalism, imperialism, colonialism, neo colonialism and

(24:54):
new age domestic colonialism. And four to champion the cause
of black liberation. And five forge a revolutionary process to
facilitate self determination for African people, to usher in African sovereignty.
Thus the best way forward for black people in pan Africanism.

(25:19):
Scientific pan Africanism is a pure pan Africanism and just
like Chief Fodet said, as today in the twenty first century,
we as Garvieites rehabilitating Garviism and the vision of Garvy
and the Unia government as well as our African races
want to look at our history, heritage and culture. Gain

(25:43):
from all of the positive conventions that were held way back.
Bring that positive energy forward our ancestors and waiting and watching.
Don't make the same mistakes that we made. Don't get
confused with the Arugu energy who has poisoned us, with
the poisonous of false religions, taken away from the real

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religions which are basically traditional. So I want people to
understand what I just shared is a simple summary paragraph
of what scientific pan Africanism is. But like Chief Foday
it said, we have been so hoodwinked. We need to
get the Scientific pan Africananism book, the Redemption, Reclamation Restoration

(26:30):
of Pan Africanism to understand clearly HOWMOTEP has done serious research.
And Brother Paul, we got to bring him all before
the Race First convention so you can hear it directly
from him. He's based in Beimo. The PLM is a
very serious group of brothers and sisters that work along
with other brothers and sisters, and it's time for us

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not to stay in our own individual silos and to
close rents and come to the table and do some work.
So Marimbla I need for many on listeners are probably
familiar with who wrote the book. Urugu will be there
with us. Brother Barruti and many other elders like myself
will be present. But this is not a talk shop,

(27:13):
this is a workshop. Will be young brothers and sisters
from the hip hop movement, brothers and sistans actually from
even the UK. Our brother Shakarah from the Alkabalan Revivalist
movement will be here, and brothers and sistans from not
just in the United States will be here. We've been
holding these Race First rallies thanks to PLM, for over
five years now in various different locations, and this is

(27:36):
the climax of some of them. But the work begins
or rebegins or restarts coming out of this convention. If
not an opportunity to come solve the problem, is to
come to address methods and ways and means towards solving
the many problems that black people are confronted with. So

(27:57):
the U and I ain't the God be moving into
twenty first centry is very clear. We need to close ranks.
We need to follow our ancestors and be very clear
Garby was not only a Pan Africanist, he was a
scientific baron Africans. Most people know it as a universal nationalist,
but many race first groups that exist out here today,

(28:18):
all of whole Garby, all the Pole Deslines, all of
Pole Thomas Sankara, all of whole kwamea Kuma, and I
could go on and on and on, Queen Mother more,
but it's time for us to follow the work, the
black print that the ancestors left. Chief fo Da has
done just that as a Garbyite, and that's why he
represents the one African commission on the continent. And this

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Gulla information is so critical because I'm clear eighty percent
of most of the Africans in North America have some
Gulla historical ancestral ties. So Chief Fode can break that
up a little better than I.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, and let me ask him this though, brother saying
God twenty minutes serve from the top, Chief Foe being
in serially on is the issue different if for Pan
Africanism because you've been state side, so you know what
our issues are. Because we're around a bunch of other
folks and a lot of folks who don't like us.
But you're there with with brother mostly brothers. So it's

(29:16):
the issue of pan Africanism, pan Africanism trying to get
that message across. It's just a different message for you
in Africa.

Speaker 5 (29:25):
I think it actually resonates a little easier here because
people in Africa view themselves as Africans. In the United
States right now, there is a serious identity crisis and
people are confused whether they're Africans or not. So you
can't get to the pan Africanism without the African identity.
And so that's why do it. Geeche is so important

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because it emphasizes our Africanisms and our culture and our
language and our traditions in our genetics and says we
are Africans and then tells a great story of our
people from the Mali Empire, from the Congo Empire, from
all over Africa, western Central Africa to North America. This

(30:07):
allows us to combat the erasure that's happening, you know
officially under the current Trump administration, fighting the museums, you know,
extracting information from public schools. We're combating it directly in
this way.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Gotcha in twenty six away from the top of our
family at Chief fo DA, calling US from Africa. Also
brother Saint Gaud is with us from Washington, d C.
Brother Sant Gaud. Though this conference that you're having on
the twenty six in Baltimore, is it open to everybody?
Is it going to be live streamed?

Speaker 3 (30:43):
You have to go to the website that I gave
you out earlier to find out if it's going to
be live stream But I will tell you we're not.
We're participating. This is done by the PLM. That's why
I suggested that sometime soon before the actual convention you
have representatives from Pan African Liberation Movement in Tublan City,
Baltimore come on so that it can give specific details.

(31:06):
But it is very very important call for people to understand.
It's free to register and to register. As I'll give
it out again, you need to go to you need
to go to www dot PLM ninety five dot org
and register so that we have an opportunity. Now brothers

(31:29):
and sisters from all over the country and some outside
of the USFA will be in attendance. As I say,
this is not a conference, this is a convention. It's
a working convention. In line with what Garvey did in
nineteen twenty what we're done back in the eighteen hundreds
and nineteen hundreds when we did conventions to bring something
out of it, a practical application of the work going forward.

(31:53):
Many of these groups that will be there have not
had an opportunity to even meet each other. Yet we
are still doing i mean, the same type of work.
So it is open for people to come, but it's
not a thing where we want individuals and organizations to
come that are not race first and are not focused.
This is not a talk shop, This is not a

(32:16):
recruiting kind of situation. This is a working convention and
of course coming out of that we will be recruiting
brothers and sisters to understand clearly what Scientific Pan Africanism
is about, what Galla's sovereignty is all about. As chief
O Day will explain how people can get that and
if you go to the www. Dot PLM ninety five

(32:39):
dot org you can find out more detailed information of
how you can get the book if you wish to
get it. Scientific pan Africanism done by our brother m
O Chuck Facci. It is so so important for people
to understand this ain't for average every day comes and
feel good kind of conference and lead yes, you will

(33:00):
be able to learn. There will be ben this present
so you can purchase various different books. But it is
a working conventionmentt We're coming to the table to discuss
the work that we've been doing and to consolidate so
that we can go out into the broader population and
provide education, provide the direction of economic development. For example,

(33:23):
Sister mckeiniy Mama Mkini will be there representing Appeal and
then this weekend, Appeal Executive Director Barba Calichi will.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Be hold right now, Hold on though, right there, Brother Sengh,
we gotta step aside and get caught up in the
latest news. I'll let you finish your thought on the
other side. Family, you're just waking up and just join us,
brother saying go by, he is with us. He's a
covey it along with Chief fo Day from Syria. Leon
questions for these brothers. Reach out to us at eight
hundred and four to five zero seventy eight seventy six
and we'll taket calls after the news that's next and

(33:56):
grand rising family, thanks for waking up with us on
this Wednesday morning. It's aday. That means we're halfway through
the work. Week with our guest Gafy Ice brother saying
go by a and also Chief Fordy checking in from
serial Alan. We're discussing scientific pan Africanism. Before we go
back to them, let me just remind you. Coming up
later this morning you hear from actor comedian Guy Tory.
Also activist doctor Rosa Milligan would join us, and also

(34:19):
a writer Simon Book of Muhammad will be here as well,
so make sure you keep listening for those later this morning,
and tomorrow's course is Friday. We're going to give you
another chance to free your mind and join us for
our open phone Friday program again promptly at six am
Eastern time right here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB
and also in the DMV on FM ninety five point
nine and AM fourteen fifty w OL. All right, brother Sang,

(34:40):
you will ask speaking, so I'll let you finish your thoughts.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Well, as I was saying, the coming up Friday current
program Friday to twelfth, we do this Freedom Friday Forum
the Witch and Banika Jackson Bay Division three thirty at
the Government of the un i A c l RC
twenty twenty and one of the groups that will be
represented at the race first conference, we'll Doctor Calichi of APPEAL.
APPEAL stands for the Association of People for Pan Africanist

(35:06):
Economic Advancement through Leverage. Brother Doctor Calichi will be breaking
down some of the things coming up with their grand
a big fundraiser as well. But also you can go
to facebook dot com slash Unia Division three point thirty
and check this live streaming event out at eight pm
on Friday, our Freedom Friday Farm and learn about APPEAL.

(35:30):
Appeal is just one of many groups that will be
at the table that are doing work for us to
uplift African people at home and abroad. So we will
be consolidating now. I'm a member of APPEAL. I'm also
a member of US Lifting US. I'm also a member
of the Pan African Fellas Movement. I'm also a longtime
Guarbyite member. I'm also a member of Our Things, the

(35:53):
colle Greens, and many other groups a wider African Olist
together associations. But it ain't about me, It's about week.
All of those groups that I know name are basically
moving forward to try to do what we can do
to uplift our people. But when we come to the table,
thanks to the PLM of Baltimore and the many groups
that are in Baltimore and around the country that our
Race First that are coming are coming to bring the

(36:15):
work that they're doing, things that have been working for them,
so that we can consolidate our work, learn from each other,
build a stronger relationship, and come out of there with
some decree of work that we're going to do going forward,
so that brothers and sisters that are on the continent,
like Chief fau Day, brothers and sisters in South America.
We just had idahou that were here from Brazil that

(36:38):
we're talking about the great history of Brazil in South
America and how important that was. We got a lot
of good things going on coming into October. We're going
to be honoring the Million Man March legacy with groups
that come together. So there's a lot going on, but
it is very important for us to focus on Race

(36:58):
First and to move forward. I'm gonna stop there because
I got my brother, Chief Fode was calling from across
the Big Pond, and I know we only got about
fifteen more minutes, and I know Chief fo Da would
like to chime in on some of the great things
going on there as well as here because Chiefold there
represents Black Style Acting Network International, the Galla Doogu Group,

(37:19):
the un IA. We are involved doing what we can
to consolidate the different groups we're in and to hook
up with the brothers and sisters in the hip hop
movement that all the other movements culture, arch and culture, economics, development,
political education need to come together right now and prepare
to move forward in the twenty first century and carry
out the works our ancestors have done and paid the

(37:42):
way for us.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
All right, Chief thirteen away from the topound, what say you?

Speaker 5 (37:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Man?

Speaker 5 (37:50):
I think I think some Gorge has really summarized the
moment that we're in and the overall importance of understanding
that we are people and we have to be paying Africans,
but we have to be organized, that we have to
understand the circumstances of the day, that we have to
recognize each other and respect each other and come together

(38:11):
to be about the work of self governance. And I
say that because that's what you want to A ACL
was all about, That's what the earlier movements and eighteen
hundreds of free Africans in the North America was all about.
It's all about exercising our God given right of sovereignty.
It's not something we're asking for. It's not like the

(38:31):
civil rights marching in the streets for rights. No, we
possess our sovereignty as humans, as Africans already, we're exercising
it now. Now we're giving it self determination form, and
so it's very very important. You know, I really appreciate
how you broke that down by Boyton God. I just
want to say that also for my book, the Gala

(38:54):
Sovereignty Book, a lot of the information in there, it'd
be the first time you ever heard it given to
you in that form. And it comes from being a scientist.
It comes from going out observing it in the field,
joining society myself, becoming a member of a Man Think
God clan myself, and then also experimentation watching people operate

(39:21):
within the Mandane capital system in various ethnic groups all
across saerily owned and even in getting Clinik Green when
I was there. There's a general system of family kinship
that everybody has in respect and it operates and I
think it can really bring some resolution to a lot
of the internal kinship plavas that we have within our

(39:43):
own community and so I think that I think that
you know, I'm just excited. I'm very, very, very very
excited about the Race First Convention. I watched the rallies
and to see it emerged as in this convention form
and especially with the you know, with the keynotes, with
the elders that we're going to to have there, you know,
with the with with the veterans of the struggle that
we're going to have there. I just want to I

(40:05):
just wanna make a make a general call with the
black community, whether you're a fan African or not, is
you're concerned about the future of our race, make your
way to Baltimore. All roads lead to Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
All right, I mean jump in here a ten away
from the top of that, I'll ask both of you
to define when you say race first, what you really mean,
because we know we hear the term all the time.
Are coined by Marcus Goffey. But when you say race first,
brother saying God, what do you really mean?

Speaker 3 (40:31):
We have to deal with yourself first. You have to
first of all understand in order for you to raise
the consciousness, you have to know who you are. So
number one, we are African people. We're not anti any
living being on the planet. But we'll pro us Africa
is when God we traveled around the world and saw

(40:52):
Africa on the bottom of the rung everywhere, he understood
that something was wrong. Women have been oppressed, African people
have been oppressed, even on the continent. The Berlin Conference
was not done by us. It was a divide and
conquer tactic. So when we say race first, we're talking
about coming together of African people with a mindset, a

(41:16):
mindset that we must return to our traditional greatness. So
when we say race first, we're saying we need to
come together first. We don't need to integrate with nobody
else but our intrograte with ourselves first. And once we've
done that successfully and reclaimed our africanity, reclaimed our continent,

(41:38):
reclaim our destiny, then we can look at possibly the
rest of the world. But to look at the rest
of the world in terms of the struggles that they're
going through and to integrate has not worked for us
as chief fold, they say, and Malcolm made it clear,
you can't have no civil rights until you've got human rights.
So we're dealing with our human rights issues, our birthright

(42:01):
being race first. All other people listen, scientifically, we didn't
create the mongoloid. Nick Royd and Kakadoi Garby said, we
need to be science par excellent. We need to be African.
We need to understand our origin. We don't need to
get caught up in other people's ideological beliefs, ideologies and philosophies,

(42:21):
because all life of human beings come from us anyway,
if you look at it scientifically. But we're not trying
to address the issue of everybody else's problem. We're trying
to deal with our problem. So race first, from a
Garbyite perspective, that's what it means. Marcus Garby was absolutely.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
All right, brother fod I want you to chip in it.
Does it mean the same thing for you and you're
on the continent here after hearing sure is the same
with brother Saint Gorgeous described Is it the same?

Speaker 6 (42:52):
Then?

Speaker 5 (42:53):
Absolutely? I think I think here is more about like
what Babas and Go said, race as a political cool
concept in the Western world is a real thing, and
people in Africa don't have the same kind of race
consciousness that we have in North America. They didn't go
through the same histories or the same struggles with Yurugu

(43:14):
to develop that race first consciousness. And so you'll see
that Africans seem to be slacking in terms of their
race relations on the continent and we always get stabbed
in the back by the Indians, by the Chinese. They
build China towns and little Indians here too. And so
when we say race first, we're talking about the political
and economic concept of black consciousness on the continent. You

(43:36):
can see it in South Africa, you can see it
in different countries in micro but we want this for
the whole continent. We want all African people to be
black conscience and have a race first approach to the
world and to how, you know, how we engage the
other people in the world. If you look at the
European they have mastered race first part excellence. If you

(43:58):
look at the Chinese, they have race first part excellent.
And so Garby being a scientist themselves, observed that, hey,
all these other people that have these different pheno types
from these different continental subcontinents, they have a race first
concept and that's why they're dominating us. And so you know,
it's just us peeping the game, understanding that under all

(44:19):
of the fughese that what we see is that we
are Africans. We have to be Africa for Africa. We
had to be Africans for Africa first and foremost, we
got to be pro us without any apologies.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Right now. Hold up thought right there, because we're come
by break and we've got some folks who wanted to
speak to both of you. Brothers sticks away from the
top there. Christians called us from Malibu, California. He's online
three grand rising Christian young with Chief Fodey and Syria
Lawn and brother sant Goor in Washington, DC, a grand rioting.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
I want to ask the chief he's a scientist. My
family came into the United States since seventeen eighty three
from Africa. We didn't come from Haiti or Barbados. We
came straded from Africa seventeen eighty three to the Two
Rivers or in Savannah, York. You guys know what this are.
But when we don't know what part of Africa we

(45:10):
could have come from. I was wondering to scientists with
his research could give us some idea or some conclusion
what region of Africa we could have come from?

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (45:20):
Absolutely, for me, I would think the Upper Guinea region
I would say that because at that time, the slave
trade in seventeen eighty three, it was just reopening. You
gotta remember that the American Revolution just ended. And so
one of the places that slave traders and Charleston had
direct connection to was Bunce Island, srily owned. They were

(45:42):
sending ships directly from Charleston that was made in New
York and ensured by Jewish people all the way directly
to a buns Island serially on about twenty five miles
from where I'm sitting at. And so that region and
you're saying Georgia, so that's the Della Gichi region. You've
got to understand that Georgia used to be part of

(46:05):
just the general Carolina and that that coastline right there
where you're talking about is heavily populated by people from
the Upper Guinea region. Upper Guinea what I mean is
from Senegal down to Liberia, and it would have been
centered around this part. Sarah Leone. This was the stronghold
for the British side of the slave trade. This is

(46:25):
where John John Hawkins came and took the first their stole,
his first African for for the Queen of England at
and so that's why Siri Leone was also chose to
be the return place for the Africans after the after
the American Revolution. So I would think Siri Leone, given
the time frame that this region, whether Liberia, Guinea, Guinea,

(46:48):
Bassad maybe Mali, maybe Bolquino Fasso, so they took us
from foreign land, this general region of West Africa might
be your family's origins place.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
All right, Christian, we gotta take a break, thank you, Christian.
We gotta check the traffican weather, not different cities when
we come back. Though, brother Chief Fode only expound that
because back then there were no boundaries. This was after
the Berlin Conference, so it would be better to say
from a particular tribe or so, because we remember that
the oppressor carved up Africa and and and that's the

(47:21):
really people saying that we what what country African countries
stead of saying what African tribe? You yeah, hold hold
our thoughts saying because we gotta check the trafficking weather,
and you can respond to that as well. Family, you
want to speak to our brothers, reach out to us
and we'll take your calls. Next and grand rising family,
and thanks for waking up with us on this Wednesday morning.
I guess we have Chief Fod callists from Syria, Loan

(47:42):
and Brother Saint Gore in Washington, d C. We're discussing
a scientific Pan Africanism. And also Chief Fode has an
e book out called Gullagichi Uh a book about Gullagichi.
You'll get into that momentarily. But before Christians answers to Christians,
Christians question about not knowing where Uh in Africa he's from,

(48:03):
Just Christians, just go to African ancestry and you'll tell
you exactly where where you where you possibly are from.
Because remember the Europeans carved up Africa the Berlin Conference,
so there were no boundary, so you know if you
your tribe may have been moved to a different place.
But African ancesty and I've done that, They've done mine
along with doctor Welson and also with uh Tony Browner

(48:24):
at one of our Power Talk conferences. So it tells you,
you know, the possibility is where your folks came from
was now because overlay that with with how the Europeans
carved up Africa. But the Brother Chief for that, you
want to respond to anything that that Christian said.

Speaker 5 (48:41):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely. I wanted to say also, you know,
let us understand that in Africa, we didn't have the
concept of tribe, we didn't have the concept of nation states,
we didn't have borders. It was the klan. The klan
with the principal identity of every human being. That was
your political identity. You would go in anywhere and you
would meet with your clansmen who were established there and

(49:04):
you would be saved. That was your citizenship right, that
was your nationality, your ethnicity.

Speaker 7 (49:09):
And so.

Speaker 5 (49:11):
We have to understand how our ancestors were viewing themselves
also when we reclaim identity. They weren't. They weren't viewing
themselves as genetics. They weren't viewing themselves as members of
modern day ethnic groups either. There's other testing as well
that I've been engaged in the genetic genealogy. I have
a cousin who's found over twenty African living African relatives

(49:34):
through DNA testing and they come from different clans and
ethnic groups and countries modern countries. So you can go
even deeper as well with certain tests, and it lets
you know what your whole genome is. The APC ancestry,
I'll let you know your mothers and your fathers mt
DNA and why DNA groups. But you have a lot

(49:54):
more ancestors than than just those lineages, So keep digging.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
All right. Eight hundred and four or five zero seventy
eight seventy six. Bobby is in Buffalo, has a question
for you, fellas grand Rising. Bobby, you're on with Chief
Fode and brother saying.

Speaker 6 (50:09):
Gaul, blessed love family. First, I want to say thank
you for the show and for the information. I really
want to get the books, but I'm not sure the
easiest way to get it. I've already registered for the conference.
I'm looking forward to the conference. Like the brother said
about the idea of tribes, Africans who I'm associated with
here take offense with the term tribe. They think more

(50:31):
in terms of ethnic or cultural groupings. I'm not sure
if that's what the brother was saying. And my question
is this confusion I have. Maybe you can help me
clear it up between Pan Africanism, which is a i
in my mind, a continental coming together of African people,
and global African Children, which is a global presence of

(50:55):
African people. I was hoping you can help me clarify that.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Yes, well, like you said he wanted to get the book.
He can definitely want. Chief, you let him know how you.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
Can get both books. Both the books.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Yeah, yeah, you're coming too the conference. They will be
having a book there.

Speaker 8 (51:18):
I know that for a fact.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
But it's very important for you to check out Scientific
Pan Africanism that goes into detail and explaining and clarifying
and answering your question. I could say a couple of
things here now, but I want to make sure it
sounds like you really need absolute clarity or the differences
and the importance of the global unification of African people

(51:44):
Scientific pan Africanism, and the book explains and breaks that
down into detail. Chief today, can you tell my brother
how he can get your book and others?

Speaker 5 (51:54):
Yes, sir, yes, sir. So the name of my book
is Gullah Babarranty African Communalism and the Man Dang Cash
fo k A f U model. You can get it
in three easy steps. It's an e book for now.
Eventually I'm going to be printing it, but you can
get it at cash app, dollar sign manson m A

(52:20):
N s A four day f O d A y
jammu A j A m U all together cash app
sign a dollar sign Mansa fo day A Jammu, or
you can go to PayPal and you can you can
get it at PayPal, dot need uh Dolla, Google, g

(52:40):
U l l A h d U g U l
l C. And of course if the book costs fifteen dollars,
it's an e book. Great book. It consists of eight
chapters and.

Speaker 8 (52:53):
Two excups of articles.

Speaker 5 (52:54):
And then also in your payment notes when you go
to cash app or PayPal, make sure that you include
your email address because that's how I'm going to be
able to know where to send the foul to. And
then step three, you're beginning it via email. That's how
you can three easy steps to get the book.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
All right, And the chief FOA folks who are like
driving go to school and shout out our teachers going
to work this morning. Is there a website of email
address that can just go and get all that information
if they didn't get a chance to write down what
you just said.

Speaker 5 (53:28):
Yes, I'm working on settings up right now, but it
will be available on www. Dot thether doogle, g U
l l A eight d U g u dot com,
thetherdoogle dot com. It'll be available there as soon, maybe
within the next three days.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Okay, and you keep talking about the golor people, where Indian?
Where in the United States do we find our Guller
brothers and sisters, and where in Africa do they come
to you?

Speaker 5 (53:52):
You will find us all over the United States today,
but you'll find our culture concentrated and what today is
known as the US Gully Geeche Cultural Heritage Corridor and
surrounding areas. The corridor spanned from around Wilmington, North Carolina,
all the way down to past Jacksonville, Florida, along the

(54:13):
coast and goes in about fifty miles. And they recognized
that as the core area where our ancestors threw rights
Indigo and certain crops that we came from Africa having
the knowledge of. And so we retained a majority African
population in South Carolina and Georgia even during enslavement. And
we also received new Africans all the way up until

(54:35):
at least eighteen fifty eight documented.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
So, yeah, I've heard that some of the brothers and
sisters in the gull Geechi they maintained many of the
African customs right now to this state.

Speaker 5 (54:47):
Is that true, Yes, sir, absolutely, absolutely, many of them,
many of our traditions. You see it in our spirituality.
You'll see it in our diet and our food this year,
in how we fish, how we work, and how we
you know, everything, every aspect of our culture. If you
go to Charleston, when you go to Saint Heleno, you

(55:08):
go down to uh uh uh uh Savannah, You're you're
definitely running to the culture. This is a little different.
This feels West Indians. This fields West Africans. And for
sure it's because the slave trade brought Africans from West
Africa and from the West Indies directly into that area
and we never left after after the emancipation we bought

(55:31):
the landa states.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Yeah, it's fascinating. And those of you who haven't had
a chance to speak some brothers and sisters from the
Gullageechee country, they sound like they're from the Caribbean. Some
of them, they've got that action. Wait, are you from Trinidad?
And I know they tell me they're familiar at South
Carolina they Gollageechee. So yeah, there's there's some uh some
connection there. Do you have time to explain that?

Speaker 5 (55:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, Well, the families, the families have been
migrated forcefully during slavery to the west all the way
to Texas, and then the Great Migration took many of
us north and farther west to California. So you have
to do the genetic genealogy and know what your lineage
history is to know how you connect to the Gully

(56:16):
Geeche people. But they say, if you shake the African
American tree, a gully Geechee gonna fallout, and so most
of us have the heritage. My family is from South Carolina.
We're from Ridgeville, after connections to Saint John's Island, to
the various areas that's very prominent within the culture. But

(56:38):
we're also recognizing that we identify first and foremost as lineages,
not as culture, not as language. We lost our language
through Fourth Migration. We lost knowledge of our of our
culture as a consequence as well, but we never lost
our bloodliness. And so we're redoing the Gully Geegee people
based on lineage. We're encouraging people to know their roots,

(57:02):
know their genetic genealogy when you're a great great great grandparents,
because camps is they come from, because they get your
culture as well.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
All right, thank you for sharing that ten half the
topic moment. Brother send me in the book. Let's go
back to stre brother brother st go fellas in about
the what's going to take place in Baltimore on the
twenty six.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Well, what's what you can do for the sake of
time is you can email PLM Baltimore at gmail dot com.
But as as as we said earlier in summary, it
is a convention to build and to come out with
the creeds of collective work and responsibility, cooperative moving forward

(57:45):
with all of our groups working on what we all
have in common. Sometime we get caught up too much
in our differences. It is not about that, and we're
not trying to swallow people up and bring everybody into
one group. We want everybody to maintain their sovereignty, but
the bring your work to the table and to join
and unify in your work. That's how we move forward

(58:05):
with grace. First, continue to keep your sovereignty of your
individual organization, your individual works, but make sure if you're
reaching out to uplift African people, you hook up with
other brothers and sisters who are doing similar work, and
you have an ability not to battle or to struggle
over the resources, but you could collectively go after the

(58:28):
resources together because we got brothers and sistans all around
the world who are counting on us, counting on us
to reconnect with them, what is going on in the
Sihill States, what's going on all around the world, accounting
on us to be self reliant and to come to
the table with some concrete work. So that's what the
conference is all about. Convention is all about. It begins

(58:51):
or rebegins coming out of that, and so it's important
for us to recognize that out of that convention will
come back documentation of what comes out of the various
different twelve working groups, and I don't have time to
go into all of them. It'll take a whole hour
to break all that down. But if you email PLM

(59:12):
Baltimore at gmail dot com, or you go to ww
dot PLM ninety five dot org, you can get all
the details. And Carl, I do hope we have some
time before the twenty sixth of September to bring on
my good brother Mochef, author of the book and the
leader of the PLM, who can give us all the

(59:33):
details for your listeners that they need to know. I'm
just happy to know that it's no cost to register,
but the cost is to come with your positive consciousness
and mind. It's not about coming and battling each other.
It's not to come about my thing over your thing.
This is an opportunity for us each one, reach one in,
each one, teach one and learn from one another.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
All right, and thank you for sharing that with us.
Morning and you we make that happen, us brother saying
you make it happen, we'll certainly get them there. I
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Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
Thank you well, thank you brother.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
All right, family, write a Simian book called Mohammed is
joining us now. He's on line three. Grand rising an
Alama Lake, brother Sime, and welcome back to the program.
Sitting in there online three.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Yes, I'm here.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Okay, I finally hear okay, cool beam, welcome salam my brother.
You've been pushing and talking about UFOs, and you know,
very few people in our community, obceptive members of the
nation talk about UFOs. And I remember when the nation
started talking about UFOs firus, people thought, oh man, they're
they're they're way out there, the nation, way out there.

(01:01:26):
We we we we agree with them. That's probably how
the five percenters start, you know, because they said they
agree with everything set five percent of what the nation
deals with. So this and I know this is one
of the things that they agree with with When you
talked about UFOs, but that was part of you growing up.
So explain to us when what what peaked your interest
into get into the UFOs before you tell us about

(01:01:46):
this conference that took place recently.

Speaker 9 (01:01:50):
Oh well, I've been I've been interested in this issue.
It's one of my favorite subjects since.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
I was a child.

Speaker 9 (01:01:59):
And uh, you know at that time we're talking about
the fifties. You know, this was something that was a
very popular subject in the newspapers, movies. You know, there
were sightings nineteen fifty two swarm of UFOs over Washington,

(01:02:21):
DC and the surrounding area. And so since that early time,
I've been interested in the subject. Now in the sixties
and you had mentioned that the five percenters in the Nation,
I was greatly influenced by the Nation and Muhammad Ali

(01:02:43):
because I was an athlete and this was a very
big subject for him. I can remember him on the
Johnny Carson Show talking about UFOs and talking about he
doesn't understand why people are not asking questions about this,
and you know, he actually drew a UFO saucer that

(01:03:08):
he had seen in one of his sightings. So I
had been interested since those early days. Then in the
nineteen seventies, a friend of mine gave me all the
books that that he had on the subject, and I
was just sold on it from then on. And of

(01:03:30):
course learning that the modern day source of the concept
of you know, UFOs, that is the mother plane. The
mother weel on motherships, baby planes coming in and out
of the ships, you know, flying sauces. That just further

(01:03:54):
piqued my interest. And you know, I learned and and
I've been out there with this and nobody in the
UFO field has disputed this, but it was the nation.

Speaker 6 (01:04:07):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Hold that thought right there, Brother Simon, we gotta step
aside for a few months. Hold on thorry, I'll let
you finish your thought. On the other side, I'm talking
about UFO's family. People used to pooh pooh the UFOs
until I found out the government's got a whole report
on UFOs and Donald Trump is trying to get them
to release those files. What are your thoughts? You want
to talk about UFOs man, you need to talk to
Brother Simean Book of Muhammad. Reach out to him at
eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six

(01:04:31):
and we'll take you phone calls next twenty one minutes.
Off the top of the funct you're starting your day
with us this Wednesday, it's a hunt day. That means
we're halfway through the work week. After this, it's downhill
all the way to the weekend. Our guest is brother
Simeon Booker. Muhammad. You may recognize his name. His first
name is Dad was one of one of the tough
writers of our time, journalists and authors and writers who

(01:04:52):
remember the name Simeon Booker. Anyway, this his slice of
the pie is UFOs. So brother sime in Book of Mhammad,
I let you finish your I thought that we stopped
when we went to the Last break.

Speaker 9 (01:05:04):
Okay, I think I left off with the seventies and
the books by Eric von Donegan, which really alerted the
world to UFOs in a major way. Then we go
up to the eighties and my brother was the editor

(01:05:28):
in chief of the Final Call newspaper and he covered
the UFO issue, of course the paper did, and he
went the UFO conferences and we shared information. I actually
was writing about UFOs for the Final Call in the nineties.
And here we are today where you know, this is

(01:05:52):
one of the biggest news subjects. And even though we're
deeply involved in excuse me, rooted in this issue, it
doesn't appear to be a lot of interest, at least
on the surface, serious interest in this issue. And I

(01:06:13):
from a number of different standpoints, it's a serious issue.
So I'm happy to talk about it, but I'm also
happy to help sound the alarm about this issue and
what's going on in America and the world right now.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
Yeah, you know, but Donald Trump was threatening, but we've
been having this discussion. It's been a threat. Who released
that the classified files on UFOs. Obviously there's something in
there else they wouldn't have files and they won't be classified.
So let's stop from that, you know. So there gotta
be something the government knows is they're not telling us,
and so far he hasn't released them any word, any
speculation from your point, what was taking him so long?

Speaker 9 (01:06:52):
And also there have been reams of files that have
been declassified by various intelligence agencies in the government. So
there's just so much information out there's crazy. Uh, well,
you know, I at this point, I'm thinking that probably

(01:07:13):
President Trump was just using this issue as a campaign
issue about releasing the files, and there doesn't seem to
be any serious movement in that direction as far as
I can see.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Do you think that these files are classified because that
is it because of the military connection? How do you
see it?

Speaker 6 (01:07:36):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (01:07:36):
Yes, yes, Uh, there's you know, there's there's a there
was a book called Above Top Secret, and this refers to,
you know, a whole level of government and private industry
that is above and beyond even presidents in terms of

(01:07:57):
having access to this information. And it's been a long
time since any presidents.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Have back in.

Speaker 9 (01:08:08):
When President Truman was in office, he actually did a
press conference. He might have done more, but I've seen
one where he talks about UFOs and how they regularly appear,
you know, over military installations, and he tried to, you know,
kind of play it off, but they don't really know

(01:08:30):
what it is or what they're doing. So this has
been going on for quite some time, right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
And there was a conference or a hearing on what's
it on Tuesday. Can you fillish in on what happened there?

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (01:08:44):
This was the another one of several UFO hearings over
the last few years, and this one was.

Speaker 7 (01:08:56):
By the.

Speaker 9 (01:08:58):
Secrecy Has Force that was set up by President Trump.
It was chaired by Representative Paulina A. Luna and Representative
Jasmine Crockett, and so it was bipartisan and it disappears
to be one of the only bipartisan issues in Congress

(01:09:20):
right now. So at this hearing, they had several whistle blowers,
and I was pleased to see Excuse me, I was
pleased to see Chief Alexandro Wiggins, who was one of

(01:09:42):
the whistle blowers, and he's an active military personnel, and
he gave very poignant testimony about his experience on his
ship in twenty twenty three, complete with the our video tapes.
And you know, they had several videotapes at this hearing

(01:10:05):
and a lot of information was dropped to this hearing.
So people, if they're interests it can bring themselves kind
of up to date with just you know, spending the
time to look at it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Right, And this is happening in February of twenty twenty three,
brother Simeon, they saw these objects in the sky and
twenty seven minutes after the top they found it. For
those you have to get out at the door this morning,
take us up with us, you know, just tak to
the podcast and keep listening while he's driving to work
or school. But anyway, brother Simmet, this incident happened on
February twenty twenty three, and from what I understand, the

(01:10:39):
Canadian and Americans military shot this this unidentified object out
of the sky, shot it down is there any truth
to that?

Speaker 7 (01:10:48):
Well?

Speaker 10 (01:10:49):
I did, I did.

Speaker 9 (01:10:51):
Well there at this hearing yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
There was a video.

Speaker 9 (01:10:56):
That I'm not this doesn't sound like what you're referring to,
but there was a vig you know, of a UFO
craft racing across the sky. They said this was from Yemen.
It appeared to be a military video, and it was
hit by a missile, a US missile, and it took

(01:11:18):
the hit. Several pieces came off of it, and it
kept on getting up, it kept on moving, and those
several pieces followed it along the way. So there's a
there have been a number of you know, videos like that,
but on a larger scale on what you're talking about,
shooting down UFOs, that seems to be and it seemed

(01:11:43):
and it's agreed with, that seems to be the reason
one of the reasons at least why the phenomenon is
so reticent about contact with these people, because they've been
trying to shoot them down and trying to shoot them
down since nineteen forty seven. Now, I'm not specifically aware

(01:12:09):
of the incident or the video you're talking about, but
it definitely fits a pattern of that and a number
of you know, people in the UFO field seem to
agree with that. And there's also a growing train of
thought in the UFO community that the phenomenon is involved

(01:12:34):
with the conditions and the status quo on Earth right
now and has been for some time. And you can
kind of get a picture of that from the number
of sightings on military bases and around military bases. I mean,

(01:12:54):
in Langley, Virginia in nineteen twenty three, the base there
was shut down for seventeen straight days because of unauthorized
UFO incourasions. That wasn't widely reported, but it has been reported.
And then of course we know about the incidents over

(01:13:17):
New York, New Jersey, the Eastern Seaboard, many parts of
the country and the world during late twenty twenty four October, November, December,
and even dragged out into February, where you had these
heightened presents or sightings of UFO phenomena. Now, nobody's saying

(01:13:41):
that all of these objects are extraterrestrial or a higher
form of intelligence. Some of them, it appears, are of
different military organizations as well as the private military contractors

(01:14:08):
that appear to have the actual whatever information they have,
they have the bulk of it in the private corporations,
which is another reason it's so difficult to release the
files because these are private corporations and they're not subject
apparently to the government in terms of privacy issues and

(01:14:34):
those types of matters.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Right, and I thought right there twenty nine away from
the top of our family with our guests Simon and
Bookamuhammad discussing UFOs. As mentioned earlier, the government has classified
documents on UFOs as several presidents have seen the documents
and Donald Trumps threatened to release them. He's released some
of the tapes on JFK at MLK and he said

(01:14:58):
he's going to release he hasn't done that yet. What's
the connection to Area fifty one? Can you explain that
to the family? What is the connection ere fifty one
on the UFOs at Nevada.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
Well.

Speaker 9 (01:15:12):
Area of fifty one has long been associated with UFO
research and that goes back to mister Bob Lazar, who
was a scientist there and actually at the hearing yesterday.
George Knapp was one of the people at the hearing

(01:15:35):
testifying and he his interviews and coverage of Bob Lazar
really opened up the whole story about Area fifty one.
And you know, to this day it's still top secret.
As a matter of fact, there many military personnel that

(01:15:58):
were stay there who now have various forms of cancer
and are trying to get you know, the military to
provide benefits to them, and they are not even able
to prove that they work there because of the top
secret status of the location. So Area fifty one is

(01:16:21):
one of the crime examples of a top secret facility,
but there are others. And the reason I made the
statement about the seriousness of the Trump administration releasing the files.

(01:16:42):
During this entire hearing yesterday, not one congress person or
anybody mentioned that President Trump you know, promised or said
he was going to release the UFO files. That was
not even mentioned or brought up than that. The White

(01:17:02):
House press conference yesterday, not one reporter asked the question
about UFOs and the hearing, and the White House UH
Press Secretary didn't mention UFOs either, And the White House
has not talked about UFOs since, you know, like the

(01:17:25):
early part of the administration, after the New Jersey incidents.
At that time they released a statement that nobody buys
where they said all of the object scene. Then we're
talking about hundreds none of the object scene, uh were
dangerous and the FAA was aware of all of them.

(01:17:48):
And nobody buys it because it's totally absurd going on here.

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
Yeah and uh.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
Yeah, let me ask you this twenty six away from
the top of that. Have you seen a UFO? How
do you know it's a UFO and and not say
a drone some youngster playing around with a drone flying
over over your head. How do you know what defines
a UFO?

Speaker 9 (01:18:17):
Okay, well I have. I've had a number of incidents
and this happened after years and years of watching the
skies trying to see something. And it actually wasn't until

(01:18:38):
the nineties.

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
That I actually.

Speaker 9 (01:18:43):
Saw what I believe was was a UFO. I saw
a bright orb over the Andrews Air Force area. This
was early in the morning, two.

Speaker 4 (01:19:01):
Or three am, and it was.

Speaker 9 (01:19:06):
Just hovering over the base or as close to I
can perceive it was over the base because it was
in that direction, but also in that area you have
general area have Bawling Air Force Base as well, and
this bright like orb object was just hovering there and

(01:19:32):
after a few minutes it just started to go down
and then it went out of sight. So that's one
incident that I had also in the same area several
nights in a row, I observed a UFO shaped and

(01:19:57):
I'm talking about a circular shaped object that was flying
around a circumference that wasn't far from my residence at
that time, and it emitted a humming sound and that's all.

(01:20:18):
And this went on for a period of days that
I went out and looked up and I saw it there.
Not not too much longer. Actually it was about three
years now. I was looking at the sky one night

(01:20:41):
right hold.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
I thought, right there, I really see me. And we
step around and get caught up with the latest news
and traffic and weather or at different cities. And how
you tell us you what you saw the UFO. Maybe
some folks have seen UFOs didn't know they were UFOs,
so they probably thought they were drones. So what are
your thoughts found? Do you want to join this conversation
with our guest. There's a writers see me in Book
of Muhammad. Reach out to us at eight hundred four
five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your

(01:21:03):
phone calls. After the news, trafficking, weather, that's next and
Grand Rising family. Thanks to staying with us on this
Wednesday morning. I guessed this writer Simeon Book of Muhammad.
We're discussing the UFOs. Many of you sorts probably still
pooh pooh the UFOs, but this is a real phenomenon
the fact so much that the government has classified files
on UFOs and Donald Trump is threatening to release them,

(01:21:23):
as brother Simeon Polosi. So far that's just been a threat.
He's released the files, some of the files, not all
of the classified files on on JFK and on Martin
King as well, but so far he has not released
any on the UFOs. We'll talk about that as well
before we go back to you the let me just
remind you come up. Later this morning, we speak with
actor comedian Guy Tory. He's going to tell us about
his journey. Also activist and entrepreneur doctor Rossi Mulligan would

(01:21:47):
join us and tomorrow of course, and that's and on Friday,
we're gonna we're gonna talk went over with the phones
and you know, ask you to join us in our
open phone Friday program. It starts at six o'clock right
in Baltimore on ten ten WLB and also in the
DMV on FM ninety five point nine. All right, brother Simon,
you were about to tell us another episode that you

(01:22:08):
had when you saw another UFO. Can you explain what
what you saw?

Speaker 9 (01:22:13):
Yes, I've had a number of experiences, but first let
me just say on that literally decades went by before
I had any actual experience myself except the fact that
I knew, I felt. I just knew that what I

(01:22:35):
was seeing in videos and pictures and reading about was real.
And you know, I think it's very important that if
people think that they're going to see something, or they
don't accept the voluminous amount of information proving and showing
that something's there, and you have to actually see it yourself,

(01:22:58):
then you know that that might be a long time coming.
And also I want to say that only in recent
history have I even felt confident talking about my own experiences. Well, one,
I was concerned. I don't know if I was concerned,

(01:23:19):
but there was a factor of the stigma. But also
I didn't want to cloudy cloudy the waters by making
it seem as if you had to actually see something
I have an experience to be able to think or

(01:23:43):
conjecture that something is real or not, because that's just
not logical and common sense considering all the information on
this subject.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
Okay, now I did.

Speaker 9 (01:23:55):
I had another experience getting back to that several years
ago where and again I repeat, I actually watched the
skies and I've been doing that for some time. So
one night, and you've probably seen videos of this type

(01:24:18):
of phenomenon, an object just zipped across the sky in
front of me fifty two one hundred yards, totally silent,
which is a part of the phenomenon that's often talked

(01:24:39):
about with people. It was totally silent, and it had
a light trail behind it. It went in front of
the house where I was. I rushed to get to
the other side of the house to see where it
was gone, and it was gone, because literally it was
like a split second. Now more reasons.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Let me this though, brother Seyman, how do you know
it wasn't it a shooting star?

Speaker 3 (01:25:07):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:25:09):
It was too close. It's fifty to one hundred yards.
A shooting star is not going to be that close.
And then if you've examined hundreds of videos and photographs
as I have and other people have, that are official,

(01:25:31):
that are coming from official sources, you can start putting
pieces together you're not going to be one hundred percent
sure of what you're seeing, but you're not going to
be in doubt that you were seeing something. It's just
a question of exactly what it was. So with a
process of elimination, you come to conclusions over a period

(01:25:56):
of time, you reflect on what you and then you say, oh, yeah,
well that's probably this was probably just that. But again,
this is not about individual people seeing a UFO. Anybody
who was alive and looked at TV and the news
at the end of twenty twenty four had to have

(01:26:20):
seen the hundreds of objects over the skies.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
I don't know if you did.

Speaker 9 (01:26:26):
I don't see how anybody could have missed that. So
that in itself, and the silence after the administration on that,
particularly since objects were cited over Trump's golf course.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
In New Jersey.

Speaker 9 (01:26:41):
Now, the deafening silence after those events happened.

Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
Is this more evidence?

Speaker 9 (01:26:48):
But that's not a specific individual experience that I had
or somebody had. Millions of people around the world were
seeing these things, and again, you know, total silence after
it happened, despite the fact that you know, files were

(01:27:08):
promised to be released. So again, individuals and nobody is
an expert on this phenomenon. But if you don't have
an open mind, and you're not even willing to take
the time to see what's going on and look at
the evidence, then you know, that's a level of denial

(01:27:32):
that you know, I think in the long run, you know,
might leave us wanting, particularly considering where the world is now.
We're seeing drone warfare in the Middle East and in Europe.

(01:27:54):
In the Ukraine War, most of the casualties and fatalities
are from drone warfare. And you know, if you're a
black person in America, then you certainly have to remember
Mike Brown and that situation in the military, militarization of

(01:28:15):
police forces buying d O d UH tanks and other
armored carriers.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
Just add to that.

Speaker 9 (01:28:26):
Drones and UH unmanned area of vehicles to the lists,
as well as more sophisticated craft that government might have,
as well as the actual phenomenon itself, that that anyone
who looks at this comes a conclusion, Yeah, these other

(01:28:48):
things are happening and they're there, but this is something
else and we don't know what that is.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Right hold up, though, right there, eight away from the top,
I got some folks want to talk to you, but
if you want, you're talking about what's going on in
the skies. You know, Poland is a shutdown a Russian drone,
if you will, and this is the first time that
a NATO country has fired, and so people think we're
on the brink of World War three. You know, people,
I know we listened to this program quite some time
and years ago Marfa Manheim said we're gonna have world

(01:29:17):
War three. It seems to be on the brink this morning.
And there's Poland shooting down some Russian drones over Poland.
But that's besides the case. Yeah, I just wanted the
family to be aware of that. Eight hundred four or
five zero seventy eight seventy six. You want to comment
on that before I take a call for you, brother
saimn No.

Speaker 9 (01:29:33):
I think that's just an example of the expanding state
of affairs worldwide. And you know we're not talking about
it much, but clearly we're talking about if the term
brink has any meanings, we're there, are very close to
being there, yes, real are.

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
We just want to keep everybody apprized who listen to
this program. Eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight.
Semi says Kenneth is calling us from green Belt in Maryland.
He's online one grand rising Kennethy only brother simeon Book
of Muhammad.

Speaker 8 (01:30:08):
Grand as it called. Uh yeah, I didn't get the
gentleman's name.

Speaker 9 (01:30:15):
But uh.

Speaker 8 (01:30:20):
So then you know UFOs is a big subject. You
ain't have enough time to cover it. But uh now
they call them u a PS. I believe identified aerial phenomenon.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:30:34):
I wanted to ask you unidentified anomalous phenomenon technically speaking.

Speaker 8 (01:30:41):
Okay, yeah, but I come I come at it more
of a from a biblical standpoint, because you know, in
the Bible called them cherriots. So yes, yeah, so you
know people say, hell.

Speaker 6 (01:30:56):
Yeah, got it.

Speaker 8 (01:30:58):
You know it's coming from never place anyway. But I wondered,
have you heard about the majestic?

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (01:31:04):
When you were saying, I believe you said about the
preb men, you know, may not even they have authormization
that you know, getney these files or whatever. They had
a majestic level, you know, area fifty one and other
places at the levels. Have you heard above them?

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:31:22):
The Majestic twelve? Yeah, yeah, that was yeah, that was
set up in the fifties to.

Speaker 10 (01:31:29):
This happened.

Speaker 9 (01:31:31):
That was set up not long after Truman was talking
publicly about this phenomenon, and the Majestic twelve was set
up to basically oversee the secrecy and put in this
above top top secret level of controllers to manipulate information

(01:31:57):
and to keep the public in the dark or gas
light as a commonly referred term.

Speaker 8 (01:32:02):
Now, yeah, because I believe that I'm not mistaken, that
same period in d C was a big UFO site.
I think it was fifty fifty two or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
Over THEAM.

Speaker 9 (01:32:15):
Yes, it was nineteen fifty two, and to this day,
the d C. I'm I'm in New York layer right now,
but the DC area is one of the most prolific
UFO saying areas in the country. And just in nineteen

(01:32:35):
fifty two, but up to the current time, right.

Speaker 8 (01:32:39):
I actually had a sight of myself in nineteen eighties
with two other people in broad daylight in the d
MV region. It's like a death care let.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
Me, Joe, you said, in broad daylight. And yeah, but Simeon,
most of the signings are at night. He said he
saw them at daylight.

Speaker 9 (01:33:06):
No, they're sightings all times of the day and night.
Most most do appear to happen at night, but that
just could be because of the uh light and darkness
contrast factor in terms of being able to see an object. Yeah,
I was just saying broad that you know, then you

(01:33:27):
could clearly it's no mistaken what you're looking at. You know,
at night, you may be you know, could be a
helicopter plane.

Speaker 3 (01:33:35):
Or what have you.

Speaker 9 (01:33:35):
So and isn't it good to have other people with you.

Speaker 8 (01:33:46):
And there's no doubt man?

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
So all right, thanks, thanks Ken, We got to step
aside for a few minutes. Thanks for sharing your thoughts
with us this morning. Three Away from the Top their Family.
I guess the Simeon book Mohammed we're talking about UFOs.
He's been doing a lot of research into uf folks
to be noticed for years. What are your thoughts? Eight
hundred and four or five zero seventy eight seventy six
speak to semen. We take your calls after the traffic
and weather. That's next hump day if you will. That

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means we're halfway through the work week. I guess the
Simeon Book of Mohammad. Simon is a writer and he's
doing a lot of research on UFOs, and you know,
people just to pooh pooh UFOs because the Nation of
Islam was the only one in our community talking about
UFOs and people think all day out there they didn't
believe it. And now I find out the government has
been tracking UFOs. They've got these classified documents that Donald
Trump is threatened threatening to release about UFOs. So there

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is some there is some validities of what's going on,
as much as brother Simon frankin Baltimore has a question
for you's online too, Grand Rising. Frank your question for
simeon Book of Muhammad.

Speaker 10 (01:34:43):
Grand Rising, Grand Rising. Hey, so I just picked up
the I just thank you. I just tuned in. So
I'm not sure if you spoke about this already, but
do you are you familiar with the the incident that
took place down in Miami in the mall I think
it's called Baseide Marketplace last year as a legend, a
whole bunch of kids fighting, but the police response was

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way more overwhelming than what it should mean for for
teenagers fighting. You know anything about that? And I'll pick
my answer up here.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
All right, Frank, So thank you for your again.

Speaker 5 (01:35:15):
No no no, no, no, no, it does it.

Speaker 10 (01:35:18):
Does it was it was supposed to be allegedly a
whole bunch of aliens there that that dropped you. Are
you familiar when I'm talking.

Speaker 9 (01:35:23):
About surf Yes, I'm familiar with the incident. I really
don't know much more about it than what I saw
or heard, you know, in the media, and you know
there there's so many events like this and it's very
difficult to keep up with as well as to actually

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make a critical determination of what happened. But I would
say anytime you have multiple people more than one, uh, simply,
it adds more credence, uh to what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
Now let me jump in here too. Let me let
me jump in here fellas. Frank I thank you for
bringing that because I was going to ask him about
the alien aspects of UFOs. Thank you, Frank you mentioned that, Yeah, so, brother,
same aliens? Are there are there creatures out there? You know,
we talked about UFOs on them flying options, But are

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they are the other you know, enities out there? We
can't call them people. If so, if your research, could
they be connected to the UFOs?

Speaker 7 (01:36:35):
What do you know?

Speaker 9 (01:36:37):
I'm convinced that there is uh extraterrest Grill or ets
as well. But at the same time, I don't have
any reason to.

Speaker 10 (01:36:51):
Think that uh.

Speaker 9 (01:36:55):
Uh huh, ancient worse, our ancient intelligence is on this
planet and has been for quite some time. And you know,
in the term non human intelligence is used often now
to explain that. But you know, you could just be

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talking about ancient intelligence or just apprecient intelligence that exists.
And if we look at the age of the Earth
and the age of people on the Earth, you know,

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particularly indigenous people. We're talking about modern modern so called
human beings being as old. It's three hundred thousand years old,
So you know, extraterrestrials is definitely on the table too,
But I don't think that's the entire picture or scope

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of what would talk about. And it's definitely a factor.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
And the interesting thing is when you hear the administration
talking about illegal aliens instead of undocumented immigrants, because they
dehumanize these folks, they can call them aliens, because this
is what our discussion about what aliens are. Are they
humanoid or what? Brother simeon.

Speaker 9 (01:38:23):
Yeah, yes, it certainly appears that humanoid humanoid is a
common factor. But at the same time, uh, presence or
ets or intelligence has just been described as a intelligence

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presence that an experience is aware of.

Speaker 1 (01:38:53):
This is so deep, family, this is so deep, and
you've got to approach it with an open mind. You know,
some folks they just ah, you know, they don't believe
in the science fiction odds, as you know. But here's
the here's the thing. If it was if it was so,
if it was just so, something just his way out there,
why does the government have classified documents and why won't
they share them with us? That's the question. You know,

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if there was nothing, they wouldn't have any documents on them.
And if there was nothing that has given it to
us already you could come, brother.

Speaker 9 (01:39:23):
Documents go back to into the forties and earlier. And
you know the FBI files on the Nation, you know,
talk about the mother plane, the wheels, the baby planes.
ET's gone gone back to the forties, but referencing you know,

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and I writings and speak from the nineteen thirties. So
this this goes way back. And after one hundred years,
you know that there is absolutely no question that we're
talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
Something real here, Yeah, something they want to keep from us. Listen,
We're going to let you go, brother Simon, and book
a Mohammed, But keep us in the loop. Anything you
hear happening on the UFO scene, let us know, because
obviously there's some information out there that they don't want
us to know. And usually we're always on it when
it comes to information where we're on the late train

(01:40:30):
as usual. So uh, thank you for doing your research
and thank you for keeping us updated, especially with the
conferences took place on Tuesday.

Speaker 9 (01:40:37):
Yes, no, no, no question about it. I'm happy to
do it. And let me end by saying watch.

Speaker 1 (01:40:42):
The skies for you, and though how come folks they
want to follow you with more information about what's going
on in our skies. You have an email address?

Speaker 9 (01:40:52):
Yes, I can be reached on LinkedIn and my email
is semi and dot booker one one one at gmail
dot com. Simmy and is s I M E O
N dot b O O k e R one one
one at gmail dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:41:13):
And thank you, thank you for doing the research. You know,
my thing is our people need to be aware of
everything is taking place, and at least we have you
doing the research and highlighting what's going on and informatist.
So I want to thank you again, brother Simeon and
the book of Muhammad.

Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
You're very welcome.

Speaker 4 (01:41:28):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:41:30):
All right, family, as usually you know, you have an
open mind. Welcome salam my brother. Eight hundred and four
or five zero seventy eight seventy six. Eight minutes after
top Down, doctor Rosie Milligan is checking in ground rising.
Dr Rosie, welcome back to the program.

Speaker 11 (01:41:44):
Thank you, doctor Rosie.

Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
You say that at this point in history, this is
more important for us to have healthy relationships, especially in
the black community, because we had a couple of discussions
this week and they said one of the major problems
I think we Professor small as someone called in and said,
one of the major problems is the disintegration of the
black family. We don't have healthy, you know, familiar families

(01:42:10):
that we used to have back in you know, saying
the sixties and fifties and all of that, because many
of the homes are head by single mothers, and even
in Africa that the family was really key. It was
really a big deal about families. What's going on? What
caused the breakdown?

Speaker 7 (01:42:25):
Well called one thing. I want to say that it's
so important for us to really look at a lot
of time we talk about black relationships and people really
interested in male female relationships, but I'm spending my latter
years dealing with the black family relationship because we have
to look at the fact and ask the question, are

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we building families strong enough to withstand the pressure of
today's environment? Are we setting up the next generation for failure?
Family is so critical that we must focus on the family,
And I think it's important for us to understand that
the conditions that we see of the community is a

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mirror car of the of what comes out of the homes.
The community that we live in is made up of
the people who come out of the homes in that community.
I think when we grasp that, then we will understand
the importance of buildings strong, healthy, thriving family. If we

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want a strong and healthy, uh surviving, striving community, we
got a connect the dots with what's coming out of
the house, Whatever comes out of their homes, That's what
your school is going to look like, what that community,
what the homes mirror. I want to drive that home
how critical that is. If you come out of the

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community that's driven by poverty, then you're going to see
the reflection of that in the community. So we have
to come together as a family and look at what
we must do to survive in these times. And it's
so critic and one of the important things that we

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must realize that history matters in car. I don't know
why that many of our people do not want to
connect the history. Here's our history to what is happening
is today. When I talk about that, they want to
tell me all that's in the past, we need to
leave leave that behind. By our history, it's not about

(01:44:41):
living the past. It's about understanding how we got here
and how we move forward. It connects to pride. When
we talk about history, give us knowledge of our pride,
the resilience of our self image. That is so important.

Speaker 6 (01:45:03):
Now.

Speaker 7 (01:45:03):
I don't know why we have issues connected to that,
And maybe I'll ask you that question called because there's
so many people don't want to talk about the history.
We don't want to talk about this. Let's move on.

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
Yeah, And I've heard that before twelve at the top
of our family, doctor Rosie Milligan. Doctor Rosie, what they
tell me that our history is too painful? You know
they've entied of these slave shows and all this anything
to do with slavery that's being enslaved. It weighs them down.
It's stabilitating. They can't endure it the day after day
and not after night. Why we sort of we talk

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about it so much. Kind of what Connie said, we
probably enjoyed it because we talk about it so much.
That's the response I get.

Speaker 7 (01:45:45):
Well, if you're talking about pain, if black folks don't
feel the pain right now, I mean I can't see
the yearn and of pain just like being cast on
a slave ship. Because really we're a new sophisticated farm
of slavery right now. You know, I help a farmer

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who wrote the book called the new slave ship, the
ship that does not sail. That's why we are. I mean,
look what's happening. Look at our people to prison appeal
with our people, that's slavery. I mean, look at the
homeless situation here in America. Look at the homelessness among

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black people and even elders. Now there are so many
homeless elders, and people are not talking about it. Called
if someone would sell the home that most of the
elders to live in, particularly in California, they become homely
because they cannot afford the rent at market value. They're

(01:46:47):
building low income home till they call affordable affordable to who?
When we got one bedroom apartments here renting for twenty
seven hundred dollars, who is that affordable to? So we
have the pain were talking about we don't want to
look back because we don't want to think about the pain. Well,

(01:47:09):
some of our people who came up hard time farming,
share cropping, they were not homeless black folks today, and
many of them are worse off than the people who
was coming through flavor. So we need to face our history.
But we have to understand reading is so important. Our

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ancestors have told us which way to go call, but
we are not listening. So I'm saying to black people today,
you need to take your faith off of Facebook and
put your faith in a book. I'm gonna say that again,
you need to get off of Facebook and put your
faith in a book. Because my strengths come from people

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that the books that I read understand the history and
how our people move forward, how resilient they worked, what
they did. That's what's missing in new generation. They have
no clue of the strength. When you realize the strength
we have and you derived from these people with strength,
it gives you the curve to say, well, I can

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do it too. Black folks did this. Even the things
that black folks are doing today, many black people are
not aware of that. So it's so critical that we
connect to that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:33):
You know, come on break at fifteen after the top
of that, let me ask you this. And by the way, family,
doctor Rossi Milligan is she talked about books. She's an author,
she's also a publisher, she publishes books as well. But
doctor Rossie, how much of the issues of being a program?
How much of this that we don't have any control over.
I know people say she's to stop blaming the white
man and all of this, but the drug problem is

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an issue, and we know they drop the drugs in
our community and we still having the residual offects from
the drug the drugs the crack cocaine era that impacted
our era more than anybody else. So how much is
it the other folks and if so, why are they
doing it? It's as Dr Anderson says, that somebody's got
to win, somebody's got to lose, and they always they

(01:49:16):
always want to win, and they always want to keep
their foots on our necks. And if if that's if
Dr Anderson is correct, if that's correct, that they're doing
this to keep us apart, keep our families apart, and
keep us down.

Speaker 7 (01:49:27):
What do we do?

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
How can we How do we respond to that? I
let you, I let you respond to that. When we
get back from the short break, family, you want to
jump in on this conversation. Dr Rosea Milligan, reach out
to us. Our telephone number is toll free. It's also worldwide.
It's eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six,
will take your phone calls. Next and grandizaying family twenty
minutes after the top of that with our guest, Dr
Rosey Miligan. Dr Rosie, you heard what I said before

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we left for the break, your thoughts and all of that.
Is this the crisis in our community? Is it manufactured?
Are we at fault?

Speaker 7 (01:50:00):
I would say cards that we're at bump. Like Dona
Anderson tells us all the time, See, we look at
what the problems are without dealing with what are these solutions.
Each game that's played, you have offense and you have defense.
Since we know, okay, if you see a person heading

(01:50:22):
to the to the to make a slam dunk, are
you gonna stand there? Ooh? They keep making these slam dunks.
They're winning the game.

Speaker 3 (01:50:31):
What are you supposed to do?

Speaker 7 (01:50:33):
What is your defense? I mean, we're just a lot
of people just lying down and rolling over, giving power
to someone that they shouldn't give it to. When I
hear men say to that son, the white man has
his foot on my neck. Folks, that's the worst thing
you can evidence. Your son, your daughter. They're looking up

(01:50:55):
to you, you mom, your dad. So they're thinking, Wow,
if the white man foot is on my dady's neck
and he can't get him off of him, they feel doomed.
Words are so important. We got to play defense. We
don't have to roll over with all this stuff with racism.
They gonna only let you get so far, you know,

(01:51:19):
Frederick doug As. They have all told us how to
win this game, Doctor Anderson, all of these ancestors, doctor
ben Clark, doctor Clark, they have all laid it out.
That's why it's so important for us to start reading.
And I was sitting here just thinking today, thinking about

(01:51:40):
doctor Francis cresh Welson. He made this statement cause she said,
for all that we can imagine doing, and all that
we would do or fail to do, is the result
of the picture of self, which is derived from total
experiments from birth all what So that brings me to

(01:52:01):
another point that I get a lot of criticism about
some things that I hear on a daily basis, and
I'm asking our people to be mindful of words. You know,
when I hear people talk about how often the dollar
bouncing other communities, and it will only bounce one time

(01:52:21):
in the black community, why do we keep repeating that
without substantiating reason? How can it bounce car if you're
not focusing on building strong businesses and supporting black on business,
how can that dollar bounce more? If you don't own anything.
You don't own the markets, you don't own transportation. So

(01:52:42):
every time we repeat stuff like that, it only stands
a strong message as well so inadequate, that there's something
wrong with black folks. We're not understand that. When I
hear people constantly, you know, say, Blacks don't trust each other,
Blacks don't work to black sid jealous of each other,

(01:53:03):
karl these behaviors. Every time we hear that, it began
begin to seek into our children as this is the truth.
When actually these behaviors that I just mentioned is not
exclusive to black folks. So then our children began to

(01:53:25):
see their people as unworthy. A lawyer, they hesitate the
partnership of supporting black bitsiness. Then they begin to internalize
and see themselves and see our people as the words
that we sit around at the dining room table and faith.
They internalized self hate. Black folks don't like each other.

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Mama said, Black folks don't trust each other, so why
should they trust it? Mam and Dad said, they can't
be trusted, Carl, It is so important that we get
across to our people. The words itself is destroying our race.

Speaker 5 (01:54:03):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:54:03):
Let me jumping here twenty four after the top, doctor Rosie,
because you know last it was, yeah, it was actually
last week. One of about callers mentioned that he was
speaking with a young a young brother. He was talling
this young brother and a young brother says he hates
black people, and he's like what he says, Yeah, he
just when he sees another black person, you know, you know,
they mean mug each other. You know, back in the day,
we used to you know, thump by tests and say

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what time is it? And he say it's a nation time.
This is turn my agent folk of us in the
sixties and seventies did that. But today's when you see
another black they look away. They don't want to you know,
they don't want to stare at them in the aisle.
They want to acknowledge them. And and and this young
brother he was he was having the conversation, says he
just hates. I know it's with self hate. So I

(01:54:47):
asked him. I didn't get a chance to later, I
asked him, does this young man have a father figure
in his in his life? And he says, he lost
his dad, but he has a father figure, but he
doesn't respect the father figure. Your thoughts on all about
that story? Right then?

Speaker 7 (01:55:03):
Just what I'm saying, what this person is saying. They
hate to behavior, They hate the idea of what they've
heard about black people. When I hear people say one
thing about us, we don't support black this. Whenever I
hear people with that inclusion and we, I hold up,
who are the weed? Because you're not talking about me?

(01:55:25):
Are you talking about you?

Speaker 3 (01:55:26):
Know?

Speaker 7 (01:55:26):
I said, do you distrust black folks?

Speaker 10 (01:55:28):
Know?

Speaker 7 (01:55:29):
That's why you keep using that word if it's not you,
and I know it's not me. Card is critical that
we have a national call on words it's coming out
of black people's mouth. We can't stand run so black,
you can't trust black folks. That's why a lot of
these black men are chasing women other than black women,
because they sit right in their home and hears their

(01:55:51):
mothers or the boys here, their fathers talking about black
women talking about black men. Everybody wants the best of
life has to offer. And if you're putting down your sister,
your brother, then who wants to align themselves with the
type of behavior and with the image that we are

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putting out there before our children, this next generation. That's
why I say, are we building strong, setting up strong
for the next generation? Are we setting them up to
fail with our own mouth, with what we're saying how
we feel about each other.

Speaker 3 (01:56:30):
We need to stop it.

Speaker 7 (01:56:31):
So I'm saying to those who are listening, anytime you
hear someone say black folks don't trust each other, how
you gonna lump all us up in one in one bag.
That's what you're saying. Blacks don't blacks hate each other.
That's not true. You don't hate why do you?

Speaker 4 (01:56:47):
I mean?

Speaker 7 (01:56:48):
I hope I'm making a point here. We got to
stop this kind of talk. We are not doing no
more to each other than what the other ethnicity is.
They fight, they don't trust, they're jealous. We don't have
the exclusivetivity all negative. It's but we claim it with pride.

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Is if we have copy right, Hey, this is up.

Speaker 1 (01:57:16):
And unfortunately at twenty eight after the top they are.
It's reinforced by the media as well. Uh, because you
see you look at some of the commercials, you look
some of our high profile folks, and you know they're
into the swirl. So they made that choice because and
people will tell you the doctor you've written books about love,
so you you know where I'm coming from this that

(01:57:37):
love has no color. I'm sure you've heard that for
the for the people who are swirling. I want to
get your thoughts on all of that.

Speaker 7 (01:57:45):
Well, you know that's part of when the love has
no come, that's nothing but a compound. So when you
said love has no color, you can't love the person
who look like you because that image is doctor crishwell
seen so well to put in a book on too people.
You say it has no color, but it does. It's

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an alibi. What you're trying to say. The reason you
can't love me because of the image because what's been
portrayed about me. So that's that's just a word people
love has no colors. That's not true. That's just something
they want to say card to excuse themselves from the
fact that they think that someone else is better the

(01:58:33):
image because it's portrayed. That's why I say in social
media is really destroying a lot of our people. You know,
the self image. If we had self image, we would
not be spending seventy trillion dollars a year on hal product.
We would not be going paying ten thousand dollars to

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enlargehoor behind. This self image is the reason that our
community is driven to poverty, because our image means more
to us than access. We rather look good than to
have not called that's a sad picture when your image
means more to you than what's in your bank account.

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When forty five percent of black folks in this country
own their own home, that means fifty five percent of
black folks a buying property for other people to leave
to their children as an inherited If that's not tied
into self image and who you think you aren't how

(01:59:37):
well what you feel about your children. You say you
love them, but you're leaving them nothing. But you're paying
all this money for the person. You spending one hundred
dollars to have your little ten year old girl Braid's
putting in her hands. Something is sick about this car.

Speaker 1 (01:59:59):
Yes, it is. Minutes at the top of it. I
got a tweet for you, doctor Rosie. It's kind of
long to follow it a tweeter, says grand Rising, doctor Rosie.
Isn't it true that slavery in America is the white
man's history and the shame of it needs to rest
there with the whites. And that's the first question, goes
on to say, whilst simultaneously, the story of how black
Americans overcame white enslavement of them in America is the

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history of Black American strength, faith, creativity, intelligence, spirituality, and resilience.
How can we get discouraged black Americans to see this
distinction about history in this country and change their lack
of desire to study it as a sankoph lesson? Thank you.
That's a tweet for you.

Speaker 7 (02:00:39):
Okay, number one, cause you know I always say, and
I'm really you know, get the hits for them. The
one institution that can change the direction of where black
folks are doing is the black churches. So when the
people of why we spend most of the money and

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most of our time is where we should get the
most of our positive benefits. And it's totally opposite. You know,
you have to teach. If it's not taught in the home,
it's not taught in the school, it's not taught when
you go to your religious organization, Then where do you

(02:01:20):
get it? You will repeat yourself and be happy as
a slave. Because I listen to people on a certain
job they talking if they are I'm looking at them.
One thing that we do at our business, I'm saying,
do you have stock in this company? They actually if
they own these white ferns that they're working for, that

(02:01:42):
they may find them or lay them off next week.
We take ownership and what other people take pride in
versus taking ownership of our own. It's all about emmin
It all goes back to what doctor France the wealthing said,
all we would do and all we sail to do
is based on the image that we see abourselves.

Speaker 1 (02:02:06):
Yeah. One of the things that doctor Wilson talked about
at twenty get away from the top down that many
of us are just seeking a better spot in the
system of white supremacy. We're not trying to confront white supremacy.
Just wanted to just want to make it a little
easier for us to survive. We're thinking of overcoming white supremacy, racism,
white suprema, or the system. I should say that's the
key word, the system of racism, white supremacy. Was just

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trying to figure out a way how we can survive
in it without it. You know, we have to do
anything without it it impeding on what we trying to achieve.
And that is so true because when you look at
folks who quote unquote have made it whatever that means, uh,
they you know, and I'll let you finish because you
know what I'm going.

Speaker 4 (02:02:49):
It's what you got.

Speaker 7 (02:02:52):
Oh my goodness. Clause we need a national region, a
meeting in every region for black folks come together and
look at what they what they need separate from mainstream society.
If once our people recognize you are not Caucasian clones,
if I can get that through the skull, then we

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will understand. We'll dance to our drunk bet that stop
trying to emulate and assimilate and not be afraid to
dance to your own music. That's what we need to
dance to your own music. You're brilliant. H If you
don't tell yourself that you should have getting up every
day telling your kids about the revision of black people
talk about the invention what we have done. How many

(02:03:35):
time do our kids hear that coming from our own households.
The average young person you talk to about the scholars
and the people who have made it different, they don't
even know who they are, so how can they? How
can you have pride calls here in la Every London
mat is only about somebody else. Every supermarket you should

(02:03:57):
see how the other ethnicity these kids have that heads
up high, their pride. When they get out of school,
they can go working Uncle Bob's auto mechanic shop. They
can get skills that we are fighting in the schools here. Well,
you need to put a at them on candy back.
Can you need to do this so o children to
be able to find a place in the workforce. Well,

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other infinites and their kids get out of school, they
can go to work, even if it's volunteer, are free.
So we got to understand that self image that pridehood
comes and knowing whether you own a business or not,
you can at least sit down and say, Johnny, we
own this, we built this, we invented this. So they
can stick their shoulders out too.

Speaker 1 (02:04:42):
Yeah, twenty five away from the top, I'm kind of
breakfield something. Brother sant Go and garbyas brother sant Go
and in chief Fode was calling from Miseriraleland this morning
and they were trumpetween Garvey's worker race first, and some
people have a problem. Black people have a problem with
being race first. Other races. You don't have to tell
them that first, you know, they don't think about that.
But having said that, doctor Rosie, you know, doctor Claude

(02:05:05):
Anderson's been predicting that we're at some point we're going
to become a permanent on the class. I spoke to
him last week. He says, we're there. We're now a
permanent on the class. And how do we move from
being a permanent on the class because we just need
we just need a certain you know, amount of people
And we don't need everybody because everybody's not going to join.
We just need a certain amount of people to to

(02:05:26):
you know, to embrace powanomics to move us forward. So
I'll let you talk about that when we get back.
Are we Are you in agreement with doctor Anderson, because
I know you know doctor Anderson as well, and he's
been teaching us that there's certain certain levels that we
have to pull to get out for being on the class,
else we're going to become a permanent on the class.
He's been saying this for years, and last time I
talked to him and said, we're there, We're a permanent

(02:05:47):
on the class. So how do we move? And and
does everybody want to move? Because some people are happy
like that, like doctor Welson said, some people are happy
in the space they're in right now. So I'll let
you address those when we get back. Family, you want
to join this conversation with doctor Rose in Milligan, reach
out to us at eight hundred four or five zero
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Grand Rising Family. Thanks for rolling with us on this

(02:06:09):
Wednesday morning, this hump day. We're halfway through the workweek
with our guest doctor Rose in Milligan. Doctor Rosie is
an entrepreneur. She runs several businesses she's including a publisher.
She's an author as well, and she's also on the
Talk circuit as well the doctor Rose Milligan. You are
questions about our discussion, reach out to us at eight
hundred four to five zero seventy eight seventy six before

(02:06:29):
we go back to the limits. Remind you come up
later this morning and speak with Guy toy Is, the
actor comedian will tell us his story and I'm sure
you're en sure what he's got to share with us.
And tomorrow we're going to be joined by the Master
Teacher himself, Brother Asha Quasi will be here. Also a
historian Michael mltep from Detroit Lolso Jones. So if you
are in Baltimore, make sure you keep you radio locked
and tied on ten ten WLB, or if you're in

(02:06:51):
the DMV, we're on FM ninety five point nine and
AM fourteen fifty WL. All right, doctor Milligan, are we
a permanent on the Class A dotor Claude Andis has
been wanting us for you've you've heard when he first
started you were with us, and he was predicting that
if we didn't get our act together, we're going to
be a permanent on the class. And last time I
spoke in the last week, he says we're there.

Speaker 7 (02:07:12):
Yes, We've been there quite a while now, and we're
sinking deeper and deeper. When you do not own anything,
when you are in position on economic deprivation, you don't
control anything, You have no power. People don't have to
listen to you. Yes, we are definitely a permanent on

(02:07:34):
the class and once. But some people think now when
they look up and they see a few blacks on TV,
you know, mostly a lot of these talk shows. Now,
if you notice the game shows, people black get excited,
Oh we really moving up?

Speaker 6 (02:07:47):
Who are we?

Speaker 7 (02:07:48):
You see it for ten people and you have to
represent the whole it card. It is so sad, it's
what we're seeing out here now that I'm the class. Yes,
because people are going to hide their own people. They
are not going to hire you. Doctor Anderson laid out
to plan, and I never understood called why our politicians

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and our educators, a so called educators was not pushing
his books and making it a part of that curriculum,
because it really was the plan. You know, there's no
reason why it should not be at the school, that
should not be talked about all over. I'm gonna say this,
and I know it makes people angry because I remember
this white man called doctor and he said, maybe you

(02:08:32):
need to let me go around with you and tell
the people what you're saying is the truth. I lay
him sometime and I think I said, you know what,
if I hit the a lot of maybe I pay
a white person to go ahead of me or to
say what I'm saying. They let them put their name
on my books and say they are the offer, because
who when we hear we have been told car When

(02:08:55):
I get the book Satisfying the Black Men and Satisfying
the Black woman sexually, it was to empower black solks
so we can look at ourselves from a historical standpoint
how we arrived here. When I did to book Black
America face economic crisis, but black face more, and I

(02:09:15):
talked about what every black person, every professional, every celebrity
should be doing. There's something that on whatever level we're on,
there's something we can do to help move our race
for it. And I also talked about the roles of
the black church and why education for black must be

(02:09:35):
relevant to their success in a racist society. You can't
send your character college with a school on to just
take up anything. You need to be specific about what
they need to do to move out, not just themselves,
came to move our race for it. I mean that

(02:09:56):
is critical, but we are not looking at what we
need to do separate from what the white man is doing.
I'm telling you we failed to realize that what we
need is totally different than what they need. So we're
falling into their curriculum. We want to teach our kids

(02:10:16):
what they abscribe to. I'm saying here. I had a
town hall meeting. I called it to emergency town hall meeting,
and what I said in that meeting car I don't
want anybody in this meeting to call Trump's name. I
don't want anybody to mention hispanic white. We're here to
talk about black folks because it's not the white house.

(02:10:38):
It's a black house that's on fire. So why are
you putting watering down somebody else's house. We'll put too
much emphasy on politician and waiting for them to solve
our problems. We waiting on the politician and we waiting
on Jesus. That's why I say, if I had my way, cars,
there's certain songs that black folks sing in church, I

(02:11:00):
would even allow them to sing. And one of those
songs they love Jesus would fix it after a while,
win it after a while, you know. And people don't
want to hear you talk this way. They think you're
talking against religion. No, I'm talking about words. The power
of words, whether it's in your song, whether it's in
your speech, whatever you're doing. We shouldn't even sing things

(02:11:24):
songs that drives us a slave and waiting for somebody
else to do fun. I don't want to get on tantrum,
but I'm sick of that.

Speaker 1 (02:11:34):
I'm telling you like that, I know, I know what
you're talking about. Dr Rosie thirteen away from the top there,
dtor Rosie. Doctor Rosie is bowling down somebody's alley that
with the last conversation.

Speaker 7 (02:11:46):
Ask you this, but I ain't say. If I want
to play, I go to the park.

Speaker 1 (02:11:51):
Okay, gotcha, Doctor Rosie. Brother Tony Browner says, it's going
to take something cataclystmic to wake us up. It's gonna
it's something just Drastic's gonna happen to black folks.

Speaker 3 (02:12:02):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:12:03):
I hate to say, I think the last time something
really happened that woke us up on a national level,
maybe being the assassination of King or of Malcolm to
some extent, do you agree with what brother Tony says
it's gonna take something at that level cataclysmic to wake
our people up.

Speaker 7 (02:12:22):
Well, no, I think what's gonna wake our people up
is already he is not a catastrophic right now, when
you see all these people unemployed, homelessness, when you see
people who are educated with degreed, says down on Schedule,
I think we'll woke.

Speaker 11 (02:12:38):
I think we'll woke.

Speaker 7 (02:12:40):
Now we're trying to figure out what to do. But
now we're so scabbed. You know, doctor Anderson always talk
about aggregation. How we were all in the same same
community that had our own schools that you know, back
in the day, we had our own colleges, our own hospital.
But people wanted to separate from that. We wanted to say,
I'm the only fly in the butter beeck, I'm the

(02:13:02):
only one in this neighborhood. Let me move from away
from these people. And that diluted our strength because then
if when you move out, then you have the businesses
that's not thriving because other people moving income and the
one who are moving into our community who coming back
to La trying who moved out now trying to get back.

(02:13:23):
They're not going to patronize your business. And I've been
saying to people, even to the black churches, is it
going to be a very few of them in LA
in the next ten years, because when the people have
to move out, they gonna thrond them because these are
the people who support them. We are not getting it.
I think we are there. If you knew that there

(02:13:45):
were a tsunamic coming, I think you would go and
get you sandbags if you knew.

Speaker 3 (02:13:50):
There was a flood.

Speaker 7 (02:13:51):
So what I'm saying to black people, what are you
waiting them? You see what's happening. You see who's feeling
the jail system. You see all the homelessness.

Speaker 1 (02:14:01):
You see let me jump here, doc, doctor Rozie, I
see what you see. I just have a feeling the
majority of our families don't see that. They're still waiting
on a survivor. They're still under the illusion of inclusion.
That's not going to happen to them. We're not going
to be punished more than the other group. They still
feel like somebody out there is coming to help us,
to bail us out. That's the that's the that's that's

(02:14:24):
and that's just the feeling I get just from talking
with people on the radio. But many of them are woke.
But the others who don't join us, that's that's the
vibe I get from them. How about you?

Speaker 7 (02:14:36):
Yeah, because see what happened. There was time we had
leaders people were trying to lead us out of this.
But now because of the economic leaders men that we have,
they'll sell it out because they want to keep up
with the Joneses because they are living in a certain status.
They can't help you because then they feel like they
would be excommunicated from the people that they're hanging with.

Speaker 3 (02:14:59):
But right now is the right time.

Speaker 7 (02:15:02):
If my daddy said, this is the right time to
pick the count because people are down. And doctor Anderson
always said, he said, we are hindering because we are
trying to hold people up that we need to let
once they drop to the bottom, then they can look up.
People are ready now for direction. But we just have
to have the car. You know, back in the days

(02:15:23):
we had all these radios, talk shows, we had people
that could talk to our people, but we don't have
that now we're lost that. So it has to come
from the Black Church. We gotta put the preussure on them.
You remember the days. I mean I was on ten
or twelve talk shows a day. We had them in
people's hen Dr Jeffery, hen Dr Anderson, that our voice.

(02:15:48):
We're silent now, so they'll say, where are they? Which
way do I go? Which way is if we can
get in their faith, get the right people who are leadership,
get to churches. I'm gonna say that again, because they
listen to you if you can point them in the
right direction. You're talking about salvation. Let's do the salvation
right here. You have the power and you're failed to

(02:16:10):
do that. And black folks need to say until you
do better, I will since I need to pay ties,
I don't have to.

Speaker 4 (02:16:17):
Do it to the church.

Speaker 7 (02:16:18):
Or let's put all our money at escrow. And when
you do better, then we'll help you build your church.
And don't call me. Folks who will listen. I know
I get called up, says, but don't call me. I'm
gonna say the same thing I said. You wake me
up at midnight, I'm gonna say at six in the morning,
I'm gonna say it that power of salvation for black
folks is really live in these religion institutions.

Speaker 1 (02:16:41):
All right, Hold on on a guy. That's the folks
want to talk to doctor Rosier ate away from the
top of their money. Mike's in Baltimore. He's on line
one grand rising money. Mike here with doctor Rosie.

Speaker 3 (02:16:51):
Good morning call, Good morning, Doctor Rosie. How you doing?

Speaker 7 (02:16:54):
Good morning?

Speaker 3 (02:16:55):
Great Dr Rosi your music to my ears. I've been
telling these people for thirty years that there's no salvation coming.
Then let me tell you why the church won't do it.
Because churches are just like politicians to you. As long
as you're in crisis, as long as there's a need,
long as there's hope, then they'll continue to do what

(02:17:17):
they're doing to you because as long as you flock
to them, you know, pray and keep wishing. But you
know where the real salvation comes from. It comes from
you know, with doctor mount Rosie. It comes from within
yourself as a man, thinking, so shall he be? And
our people they just aren't thinking. I hate to say

(02:17:38):
it to them, but they don't. Look at the people
you hang with, look at the people you associate with success.
It leaves examples. And I'm talking about monetary I'm talking
about education, I'm talking about family. Ren It all starts
if you want to look at somebody that's successful, that's
raising a good family, that children are doing well, that

(02:17:59):
has up in affection and all those things in their life,
then imitate them. But all people won't do it because
they'd rather be entertained than educated. So as long as
our politicians can keep playing the game, because they don't
they saw this coming. As long as our entertainers are
happy where their life, as long as our upper middle

(02:18:20):
class and our middle classes happy where they are in life,
they don't really give a done about the poor and
the impoverished.

Speaker 7 (02:18:27):
Until then, you got to understand these politicians, most of
them are very wealthy. Their kids are wealthy. They get
free education, and we allow them because we're so happy
that we don't care what they do as long as
they blie. Like when television, when black first started getting
on TV, we didn't care what kind of role they played.

(02:18:48):
I mean, people in general, they just want to see
them on TV. I just wanted to see y'all doing
what white folks do. That's why many parents said to
the children that daughters go to school, get your good
education and find the manness. Sit you down. What she
was saying, I want you to be like the white woman.
We always trade why you get a good education and
find a man to sit you down? What were they
talking about? Okay, so we got to move from that,

(02:19:11):
but I think we got it. I don't care what
anybody say. All we need now is somebody to point
us to the road. And we don't have enough people
doing that because we don't have the airways the one
we have on TV. They're not talking about anything to
take us to another level. So I'm just sorry that
we don't have the They still go back. I'm gonna

(02:19:33):
face the church. They're the one talk to a thousand
people every Sunday. Tunk, It's up to you. I fund
the memory you're turning in the church, and we're dealing
with technology and literacy, and half of your church and
your kids is illiterate, are not into technology. What's uh uh?

Speaker 3 (02:19:53):
Doctor Boser. Let me leave you with this, Okay. A
Charinese person wouldn't put three or four yakim the joints
or the same on each individual corner, right because they're
all selling the same thing while they're fifteen or maybe
ten or even in Baltimore, I've seen thirteen churches within
a five or ten block radius thirteen churches. They're all

(02:20:17):
selling the same thing. And so that's saying all people
procrastination is our biggest problem. I think doctor Rose because
we know what they do, but most of us won't
do it.

Speaker 7 (02:20:28):
Thanks mind, I can tell you one thing called our
people are ready. That's all I'm saying. They are ready.
How can you not be ready when you're looking around
kids who went to college, who used to come out
of school and come back and tell mom and dad
to come live with me. Not only are they coming
back to live with their parents, they're bringing their children.
It's them and their children. So you can't tell many

(02:20:51):
black folks not ready. It's just's unfortunate that they didn't
listen when the doctor andertonate people out here. But it's
not too late. I'm telling it's not too late, because
sometimes people will do better. Sometimes it takes falling to
the ground. Sometimes it takes like a marriage. Sometimes it
takes a couple of marriage for a person to get it.

(02:21:13):
And then they want to go back to the first
wife because they realize if I had known now what
I knew, then this, this is who I really want
to be with. I think, not think, Come on, I
know we're ready. I talk to people. They just want
to know how what can I do? So we just
have to be out there. We have to be pointing
them and hold everybody accountable.

Speaker 1 (02:21:35):
Yeah, I hold that thought right there, Doctor Rose. You
gotta step aside for a couple of minutes. Hold that
thought right there. Three away from the top of our family,
Doctor Rosi, Millian's I guess, and that's some real talks
you're sharing with us this morning. You want to get
in on the conversation. Reach out to us at eight
hundred and four five zero seventy eight seventy six. We'll
take your phone calls next and grind rising family. Thanks
for ruling with us on this Wednesday morning. But I

(02:21:57):
guess doctor Rosiy and Milligan, we're talking about relationships here.
Like to speak to her. Reach out to us at
eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy says Carl's
calling us from Palm Beach County, Florida's online two call
it on with doctor Rosie. It's called online. I'm sorry,
go ahead.

Speaker 12 (02:22:18):
I wanted to look at what doctor Rosie said earlier.
If she had won some kind of resources she would
invest inside of Black America, and that's what we have
a major problem with, is investing in ideas what we need.
And most of the time we don't look at it systematically.
We look at it individually. And when I look at
what DeSantis did for those of us in the state

(02:22:40):
of Florida as he tried to remove knowledge, looked like
to me immediately we should have invested in deposited knowledge.
And I just wanted to hopefully hope that you would
get with people like Claude Anderson, doctor Powells, doctor Laroche,
Fidiki mccari a kill and really established it's a real

(02:23:00):
team that can really enforce the idea of the new
education that is necessary for us AE as a people.
And as long as we continue to just deal with
this little individual stuff, we'll never be able to do it.
And the investment I look at it, We're at the
wall for our minds and we need to invest in it.
And I don't know how we're gonna do that. I've
seen how those sisters did it for the political world

(02:23:22):
when they put those millions of dollars together. I just
imagine many times, how would it be if we would
invest those millions and give them to people liking them
to yourself and others who have a real course of study,
that is the design for our minds, because we don't
understand that the system of education across America is one
system and it's all designed to keep us in the

(02:23:44):
kind of wretched position that we're in. So I just
wanted to say to you, I wish you we'll start
a team. And I say Claude and others, but doctor
Powells with this accounting, tell we need to know what
was what has been really weighed against us, and I
don't think we really know. And sister Larache, she showed
us how there are so many things that they've erased

(02:24:04):
out of our minds that if we were able to
look at and our babies were able to look at,
and then possibly we get some new energy. So I
just wanted to say that and thank you for your
time and your love and your respect that you show
to yourself and our people think of this quast.

Speaker 7 (02:24:19):
Thanks call so much, and Carl, I want to speak
to that, but I missed if I didn't didn't say
how much I appreciate you for all these years that
you've been on airway. You have brought more people or
whatever you have been on radio, you have brought people
that spoke to truth, and you are searching assets to
our people because you're not afraid to bring on people

(02:24:42):
who are speaking truth. Because a lot of people don't
be afraid they're gonna get cut off or I don't
know what they're afraid of, but I just want to
to say that you beconlightful. And yes, he's absolutely right.
We have a lot of money. Look how much money
we put behind poly Ti people running for election and

(02:25:02):
whoever get in the White House. Because somebody was saying
to me, I was telling them the way you know
that the political arena is not going to change things
for you. We've had forty seven presidents and our black
folks has never you know, rolls to the top.

Speaker 4 (02:25:18):
On the end of them.

Speaker 7 (02:25:19):
So let all to let us know that it's not
about what's going on in the White House. It's all
about what we're going to do. And we have the
money to change things, but we have to take the power.
We can't sit an institution and a lot of schools.
I said, we're going to the schools now called looking
at the curriculum. We'll say no, this is what you

(02:25:39):
have to put in here. I want people to understand.
You be at that board of education. Why are they
teaching our kids? Why do they need geography? I mean
they can learn that on their own. Look at the
class they don't have to have. Why they need certain
math classes if you're not in a certain profession. I
mean you can go all the way with algebra and
trigger numbers, and then you get out you're not using math,

(02:26:00):
and your kid in the fourth grade and you struggling
trying to help them with their math. Now, we got
to make sense out of this mis education. When we
have people spending all this money and going to school
and they come out it's joy. SABERI used to always
tell us on twenty five percent of our graduates were
working in the field best study, folks. It's time for

(02:26:21):
us to wake up and hold everybody accountable, because I
can't blame the pastors. How you're gonna have memberist up
in the church. And you got folks can't read, people
not computer are literate, and you got educated there who
would waiting? Who waited?

Speaker 11 (02:26:36):
Savor got it.

Speaker 1 (02:26:37):
And doctor Rose, you got to cut it there. We
got a brother guy, Tori. I'm decorating to get started
to bring some levity because we'll be having some serious
conversations this morning with you. But doctor Roji, how can
folks reach you? You give a website if they want
more information, and how can they get some of your
books as well?

Speaker 7 (02:26:54):
They can go to Dr Rosea dot com. All of
my books are there. All of them are on Amazon.
You can reach me at doctor Rosen d R R
O O s I E. Doctor ros aol dot com
or remember doctor Rosie dot com. And for technology, for
those who want to move forward with artificial intelligence, how

(02:27:16):
we're moving at technology? I have the only plat business
and technology platform today and that's my tech Academy dot
net now dot com, my tech Academy dot net. So
reach out.

Speaker 1 (02:27:32):
I tell you you've got to handle a lot a
lot of different projects. And for the LA listeners, are
you still on Manchester?

Speaker 7 (02:27:37):
Still on Manchester? Let me give the number. There's three
two three seven five oh three five nine two three
two three seven five oh three five nine two And
I am now the self appointed mail South Central Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (02:27:51):
Well, there we go. You're on Manchester. What's across street?

Speaker 7 (02:27:55):
Just watch your Norman The fourteen twenty five West Manchester
Avenue all right that.

Speaker 1 (02:28:00):
You're in the hood. Good, thank you, doctor Rosie. All right,
doctor Rosy melligan, as I mentioned, real talk from doctor Rosie.
Let's continue that. Let's brighten up a little with our
next guest who helps me uh act, comedian Guy Tory
grand Rising. Welcome to the program.

Speaker 11 (02:28:19):
I want one and good money you will. You're talking
to the self appointed mayor of Downtown l A.

Speaker 1 (02:28:26):
Yeah, doctor Rosie is claiming south Center. You're going to
take downtown l A. Good for you, guy.

Speaker 11 (02:28:31):
You know what you know they say the South LA.
Now we still call it south Central, but you know
they have rezoned it as South LA.

Speaker 1 (02:28:40):
It's south Central to me, it's still south Central. Yeah,
my brother say south central. You know what's in a name.
But but guy, we've seen you on the screen, on
the small screen, on the large screen. We've seeing you
and doing stand up. But tell us how did it
all start for you? When did you figure out this
is what I wanted to do?

Speaker 11 (02:28:59):
You know what it's It started that basically with my
brother Joe Toy and my big brother Joe Man when
he did death Comedy Jam. You know I knew growing up,
I knew who Richard Prye was and Andy Murphy and
big fans of the but I didn't really see myself,
you know, as doing that as a profession. I didn't
really know that it was even a profession. I just
got there just entertainers. And then when Death Comedy Jem

(02:29:20):
came around, you know, and I saw my brother on there,
somebody I knew, and Cedric entertainer who's from Saint Louis
as well, who used to watch you know, uh in
Saint Louis. I was like, wow, I can actually do that,
so uh it started there.

Speaker 2 (02:29:34):
Man.

Speaker 11 (02:29:35):
As a matter of fact, what's today's date, the tenth Yeah,
exactly thirty three years ago today to the day I
first stepped those stage in Los Angeles to do stand
up to the day I moved.

Speaker 1 (02:29:52):
Before you talk about that, there's another alone Mary comedian
from Saint Louis that you missed. It would be the Godfather,
did Gregg Oh, come on?

Speaker 11 (02:30:00):
Yeah, My father was a high schooler Din Gregory. Absolutely,
But I didn't see Dick Gregory growing up in in
Saint Louis. He was already he was already did Gregory
I was I was speaking to growing up, going to
see Cedric and my brother do stand up in Saint Louis.
But yeah, Dick Gregory is the king of comedy in
Saint Louis.

Speaker 7 (02:30:20):
Kidding me.

Speaker 11 (02:30:20):
He's a legend icon.

Speaker 1 (02:30:24):
Yes he is, Yes he is. But tell us about
that that first time you stepped on stage, guy, what
was that like? You know, all of a sudden you
got to speak in front a lot of folks and
you got to make him laugh.

Speaker 11 (02:30:34):
It was terrible. I died a death of a thousand
dollars because I got bombed. It was in Claremount, California. Man,
and I went on stage, and you know, I didn't
know what I was doing. Man, it was it was.

Speaker 3 (02:30:46):
It was a show with my.

Speaker 11 (02:30:47):
Brother who was already on it, Joe and the late
but great Ricky Harris rest in peace. He was hosting
the show and I and I was like like a
I was like a rock waller in the limbof going
to the show. You know, of course the level for
my brother, not me, but I was, you know, I
was drinking too much and and and just talking about

(02:31:07):
how well I'm gonna do and I died the death
of a thousand dogs. But the next night I went
up again at the Combat theater in the Merton park
Man in South Central and I did a little better,
and I just I just kept going on. I didn't
look back. I kept going on from there.

Speaker 3 (02:31:24):
What's it?

Speaker 1 (02:31:24):
What's he like? When you tell a joke and it's flat,
nobody's laughing, Well, you know what?

Speaker 11 (02:31:29):
Back then, it's it's it's man, you get caught out.
It's shocking, you know, because you practiced it in your
bathroom in the mirror for hours and you know it's
gonna work. And when it doesn't work, it's like it's
like everything world is falling on you. But now I've
learned the technique of talking to the audience to make
it in the conversation, and and not not telling the

(02:31:52):
audience where they should laugh, let them choose where they
should laugh, so it's more of a conversation rather than
like set up punch, set up punts, punch, diaty when
they should laugh. If you write, if you do the
conversation style, you write funny, and let's decide where they
want to laugh. Because comedy is subjective, so everybody's not
gonna laugh at the same thing, or everybody's not gonna

(02:32:12):
laugh at the same places. During a joke. So you
just have you go out there and have fun and
have a funny conversation with you.

Speaker 1 (02:32:21):
And saying you learnt At the top of family you
listen to the guy Toy Guy towards an actor comedian
that they start out as as a as a comedian,
that's where he started retelling. But guy, is there a
different kind of comedy that for white folks and black folks?
Do the jokes similar if you have a different audience,
do you have to you have to curate your your
audience your jokes to help the white folks or the

(02:32:42):
white folks will laugh, or or the black folks or
if the audience is mixed. When you go out there,
you go, wow, I gotta throw this, I gotta do
go this way, I gotta go that way.

Speaker 4 (02:32:52):
How do you do it?

Speaker 11 (02:32:53):
Funny is funny. If you just write funny, then funny
is funny. If you tell your story in a funny way.
Funny is funny no matter what audience you're in. But
there is a difference of audience. There's a difference between
black audiences. Within the black community. You have your you know,
especially doing comedy in La Man, it was it was,
it was wild because you have I mean, you're familiar
with LA, so you know the different sections and neighborhoods

(02:33:16):
in LA and how segregated LA is, even in the
black community. So you know when you in you know,
gay neighborhoods, cript neighborhoods or or blood neighborhoods, and you've
got to be funny and they're heckling you. A lot
of comics have gotten you know, attacked in the parking
lot and things like that, so you kind of have
to change it even within the black community as far

(02:33:37):
as like being in certain neighborhoods and also being in
Hollywood or in the Valley with the with the Valley blacks,
so it changes wherever. But as far as black and white,
I mean, I try not to worry about that. I mean,
I tend to when I'm in when I'm in Red States,
I tend to lean more heavy on being more uh blacker,

(02:34:04):
to be honest whatever. For doubly white audiences. You know,
I go in on Trump when I'm in those type
of audiences and not shy away from it because I'm
not I don't have any fear of what I'm on stage.
One of the things that people always said about me
how fearless I am on stage, and I'm very fearless
on stage. I don't I don't worry about cancel culture
cancer coature is a bunch of people who who want
to who I feel like they can follow their dreams

(02:34:26):
and they're and they're mad at where you are. I
created my set. I'm a god of my set. So
they're not gonna tell me what's funny to me and
what's not funny to me. So when you're doing certain audiences,
you just bring your funny and bring your personality. If
you bring your personality, then you don't have to worry
about what audiences you're in. And then of course some
audiences you're gonna need a little bit more edge, you know,

(02:34:47):
some audiences like a little bit more ranch, and some
audiences like to be clean.

Speaker 4 (02:34:51):
So you have to.

Speaker 11 (02:34:52):
Dictate when you're on stage in the moment which way
you want to go.

Speaker 1 (02:34:58):
Well, let me share a story with you. You know,
Eddie Murphy was working on his album, the only album
he did at Stevie's studio, and he was telling us
he was doing the he used to do these Stevie
Wanta jokes. And it was in Detroit and he went
to the restroom and these brothers said, listen, man, we
liking you funny, but lay off them Stevie jokes, you know,
because you don't touch the and and he says they

(02:35:19):
were they were really threatening. You know this was you
could tell when you've been threatened the way it's a joke.
You know, this is no Stevie want is off limits.
You do all the tell you Eddie. You can talk
about everybody else, but especially here in Detroit, you don't
talk about Stevie Wonder. And he was telling us. He
says he was scared for a while because they were
they were in the bathroom. He was washing up at
the gig. So if you ever had anything like that,

(02:35:41):
where are there's some uh, I guess issues of persons
that are off limits for comedians.

Speaker 11 (02:35:48):
Well, you know what's funny you say that because first
of all, Eddie, I don't know what Eddie was in
a public bathroom, but he's doing the show and he
should have had a brashom in the dressing room. We
didn't have to go up amongst the people because that happened,
especially in black audiences. But yeah, I've been approached several
times the shows especially with my style of comedy. It's edgy,
it's stopped provoking, but it's also provocative, you know, as

(02:36:11):
far as like, uh, you know, I like rustling feathers.
I like seeing the things that you're not supposed to
stay and they and then making it funny. But yeah,
I've had I've had white people come to come up
to me when I was doing I remember I remember
ell in Pittsburgh one time and I was doing Mitt
Romney when he was running back for office, you know
a few years back, and this white family got up.

(02:36:32):
You know, it's this old man and it looked like
the dude from Kakoon walked there. Brimley and his sons
got up and walking towards the stage to try to like,
I don't know what they're gonna try to do. They
would all got whooked. But I had I happen to
have some Pittsburgh Steelers in the in the audience who
who I invited to the show, and and uh when
the three guys were approaching the stage, but the Pittsburgh

(02:36:54):
still players stood up, was like, God, you got a problem.
And they turned around and saw these guys it was
like and just left and walked on out the club.
But it happens. Man, People get there, they get sensitive,
they get but it's a comedy show. And that's the
thing that kills me is like, you came to a
comedy show. It's a comedy show, all right. You may
be a subject of some of the jokes, or somebody

(02:37:15):
you like maybe subject of some of the jokes, but
at the end of the day, it's a comedy show, period.
I mean, I did a joke on death Jam about Fantasia,
and people love them some Fantasia. I'm a fan of
Fantasic as well too, But I got jokes about my
mama so and my dad. So nobody, nobody's off limits.
So yeah, there's people who love certain artists or certain

(02:37:38):
figures that are in their eyes are untouchable, but the
comedian's eyes and nobody untouchable.

Speaker 1 (02:37:45):
Got you hold upough right there? Sixteen a half the top.
I got to step aside. Larrying DC has a question
for you when we get back, though, family, you want
to join our conversation with front of Me Guy Toy
reach out to us at eight hundred and four five
zero seventy eight seventy six and on taking phone calls
next and Grand Rising family. Thanks for sticking with us
on this Wednesday morning. It's a hunt day. We're halfway
through the work week with our guess, the comedian actor

(02:38:06):
Guy Tories. I guess you want to speak to him.
Eight hundred and four to five zero seventy eight seventy six.
As I mentioned before the break of Larry's waiting for us,
he's calling from Washington, DC's online two Grand Rising Larry'
on with Guy Tory.

Speaker 6 (02:38:20):
Grand Rising Brother, god toy Man. I was watching you.
I've been watching you for a long time, brother, and
what I want to what I want to talk about
what most people didn't see and they need to see.
The movie that you did called Last dan Man, Last Stand. Yeah,

(02:38:43):
that movie is what people need basically the social ills
that we're dealing with. That movie dealt with homosexuality, which
you talked about early alcoholism. It dealt with suicide and
being in a topick relationship with a woman who blaming

(02:39:03):
put a baby on a man who wasn't his child
after all of them years of raising it. I don't
want to give the movie away, but people really need
to see that, Bro. I want you to speak on
that movie and what it took for you to do
that movie.

Speaker 11 (02:39:19):
Yeah, that movie was thank you for your for your
for your for that, for that man, I appreciate that. Man.
The movie is The Last Stand. It was written and
directed by Russ Parr, a radio or another radio giant
in the game. Russ Parker wrote the director of that
movie and deal with a lot of issues. Man. It
was Darren Dewin Henson in that movie. It was Kevin

(02:39:42):
hart Man. It was early Kevin hart And I told people, man,
if Kevin hart ever decided to do dramatic acting, he's
gonna kill it. And and if you look at that movie,
you see his dramatic acting. His take on his character
was great. And my character was a guy who was
dealing with the drug abuse and I darn Darren do
with Hinton's character was dealing with the homosexuality part. And uh,

(02:40:05):
Tammy Roman was in the movie. Oh no, not Tammy Roman.
Uh Andy Anderson was in that movie too. Me and
Anthony was in that movie. Uh joing scene for scene. Man.
But it was a good movie about stand up People
don't understand the dark side of stand up comedy. A
lot of comedians or we're dark twisting individuals and the
inside and we do stand up to kind of mask

(02:40:26):
and get away from that dark side that's within this.
That's why comedians who do dramatic work, if they ever
decide to tap into that dark side and those dramatic roles,
then they would kill it. And that movie dealt with
a lot of stuff in the behind the scenes of
a of a comedy club and just comedians and what
we deal with when we go home, what we deal

(02:40:46):
with on our jobs that we deal with, you know,
we have side jobs, and they were deal with society.

Speaker 3 (02:40:52):
So it was, it was.

Speaker 11 (02:40:52):
It was a great movie with my character also in
that movie was uh lost uh Richard Lawson. Uh so, yeah,
it was, it was.

Speaker 1 (02:41:03):
It was.

Speaker 11 (02:41:03):
It was a really, really really good movie.

Speaker 3 (02:41:05):
Thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (02:41:06):
Yeah, it sounds like an all star cast right there.

Speaker 9 (02:41:09):
It was.

Speaker 11 (02:41:09):
Man Rush Barr did his thing in that movie. Man
as far as that was his first one, and so, uh,
you know, he got a lot of talented uh actors together,
man and and and really put a nice piece together.
I actually got nominated for Best Supporting Actor in the
American Black Film Festival that year that Uh, I think

(02:41:30):
I lost to Loretta Divine, but you know, I'm on
the Red Divine.

Speaker 3 (02:41:34):
I'll take second to Loretta's Divine any day.

Speaker 1 (02:41:37):
I got you and Russ parr Is starting raided, worked
in l A at KD and then he came here
at Radio one, worked at Magic and kissing here with
us in d C. Yeah. Interesting journey there, you know, Uh,
eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight seventy six,
twenty five off the top of Bobba Marks calling us
from DC's online three Grand Rise and Bubba Mark on with.

Speaker 3 (02:42:00):
Guy Tory, Grand Rising, Guy Tory, I don't know if
you remember me, Mark Weedel from out in La.

Speaker 11 (02:42:10):
Yeah, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (02:42:11):
Man?

Speaker 3 (02:42:12):
What's happening?

Speaker 7 (02:42:13):
Man?

Speaker 3 (02:42:13):
I just happened to turn on the radio and I say,
my friends on here. Let me call him and tell
him how proud I am of him and and all
of the success that he's achieved in all these years.
And I don't know if you remember, man, I tell
a quick story when Guy first came to Hollywood. I
remember we was at I don't know, I think really
had the comedy act or one of these other probably

(02:42:36):
and your brother this is before you arrived. Your brother said,
my brother coming out here, man, and you know he's
getting ready to do his thing. I said, okay, all right,
And I remember when you came out, a lot of
the other comics are like, man, that's just God, that's
just Joe's brother. But then once we saw you do
your thing on stage, and we saw your acting ability,
and we realized how talented you were. Man, we just

(02:43:00):
this guy's gonna be a force. And then you know,
you were the original host of the of the of
the Kings of Comedy.

Speaker 4 (02:43:07):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:43:07):
And we were just so happy and prior to your success, man.
And I'm here in DC too, and I just wanted
to shout you out. Man. They say, how proud and
of your success I am, Man, and and and all
the things that you've accomplished. Man, I'm very very happy
for you, brother.

Speaker 11 (02:43:22):
I appreciate that. Man's joy to hear your voice, brother,
I remember, brings it takes me back to those days.

Speaker 1 (02:43:28):
Man.

Speaker 11 (02:43:28):
We were we were coming up Man and the Comedy
trink Is Man, the comedyct Theater, Maverick Flat, the Funhouse
of Jamesony Brown, and those were those are good humble beginnings, man.
But but man, we got it out, the mud Man,
We got it out the mud back there, and then
a lot of people are putting that Joe toy little
brother tag on me. Man, But I've always dealt with

(02:43:49):
that growing up in my household. I'm the fifth of
six children, so my older brothers and sisters were always successful,
so it always made me want to strive to be
just as good at them as, if not better. So
they always kept the brass ring high and gave me
something to strive for. So that the way we were raised, Man,

(02:44:10):
our prayers raised to be a healthy competitive, not you know,
destructive competitive. So I mean you saying that, Man, I
appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (02:44:18):
Man. That takes me back.

Speaker 11 (02:44:19):
And I was telling you know Carl earlier, Man today
is thirty three years ago. I stepped on stay today
thirty three years ago in Clermont. Yeah, Man, So to
have you have somebody for blasting the past, man to
come in and call in man a dope.

Speaker 7 (02:44:32):
Man.

Speaker 11 (02:44:33):
I appreciate that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:44:34):
Man, it's a beautiful thing. Man. You separated yourself, not
in the sense of being apart from Joe and his success,
but you've established your own right and Man, everything you've accomplished,
it's well deserved.

Speaker 11 (02:44:48):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:44:48):
And like I said, I knew from the very beginning.

Speaker 7 (02:44:51):
There's only a.

Speaker 3 (02:44:51):
Couple of comics that I knew from the very beginning
when I first met them that they would be successful.
And you happen to be one of those. So, like
I said, man, I'm very proud of you, man, at
all the best.

Speaker 11 (02:45:02):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (02:45:03):
Man.

Speaker 11 (02:45:03):
It means a lot. Mas. You always had that smart
comedy too, so you always want that that that people
look too like. Okay, he right, different, Yeah, yeah, we
was doing our thing back in the day, man. And
and like I said, man, it's it's it's great and
comedy has changed so much, but a lot of the
the so called ogez I would say, from our era,

(02:45:24):
like yourself and your brother and and you know a
bunch of brothers that's out there and that you know,
we won't mention their names, but they're doing.

Speaker 3 (02:45:32):
That thing, man. And I'm proud of everybody that I've
gotten a chance to know and come up with in
them early days. Man, it's it's a beautiful thing, all right.

Speaker 4 (02:45:40):
Man.

Speaker 11 (02:45:41):
I appreciate you, man, all right, you know we saw
it back in the day.

Speaker 1 (02:45:44):
Though, guy, let me see, let me ask you this
before I take on the Coffee, Sparks. That's when you
hit the the TV Sheries Sparks, good was it good News?

Speaker 11 (02:45:55):
Good News, good News? But but I I started on Sparks.
I guest started on Bark Sparks and Sparks Ed Weinberger
show that was with Arief Kinchin and Terrence Howard and
Robin Gibbons and the Gail Nunez and Kim Whitley and
and uh and James Avery. I started on that show
as a guest star. And then when Ed Weinberger, the

(02:46:16):
Great Ed Weinberger created Good News, who also created Amen. Uh,
he wrote my character in and good News was was
was I think it was? It was inspired by Dave
Colbert play David Colbert play and uh and and my
character wasn't actually in the play. But when Ed Weiberger

(02:46:36):
created Good News, Uh, he liked what I did on Sparks,
Sparks and Sparks and he added my character to Good News.
And then it was fun because he had come to
see me at the Comedy Store sawed and performed and
then saw me at you know, performing and the guest
star on the Sparks show. So that's how that came about.

Speaker 1 (02:46:55):
Yeah, many people don't know that. Ed ed Weinberger started
by writing jokes for Dick greg wait. In fact, he
went to the mar John Washington with Gregory.

Speaker 11 (02:47:04):
And even before that, and Weinberger started writing George for
Johnny Carson. And then he met Dick Gregory. But he
was a fan of Dick Gregor and went to meet
Dick Gregory at his hotel, the Watergate Hotel, and uh
in DC and uh and and he and they.

Speaker 3 (02:47:19):
Hit it off.

Speaker 7 (02:47:19):
Man.

Speaker 11 (02:47:20):
It became more than best friends. They were like brothers. Man,
they were inseparable. And Ed Weinberger, who created also created Taxi,
Mary Tyler Moore, The Cosby Show, a Men, Sparks, Sparks
and Sparks some good news. And I mean Ed Weinberger
is just that one of those one of those legends
in the game with a genius comedic mind for writing

(02:47:40):
and also understanding black culture and and not disrespecting black
black culture. So when he wrote black culture, he didn't
write it disrespectfully. He wrote it and if it was
something that was kind of disrespectfully, Ed Weinberger would listen,
you know, if he was tone deaf, he would listen
and be like okay, you know, and and would agree
with what we what was rough, We thought something was offensive.

(02:48:02):
So Weinberger is just a giant in in the TV industry.

Speaker 1 (02:48:07):
Yeah, and those who've got a long manor became remember
mister Ed the Horse that Talked. That was Ed Freinberger's production.
I think that was one of his first hits. But
you're right that I didn't know.

Speaker 11 (02:48:17):
Okay, yeah, check it out.

Speaker 1 (02:48:18):
Yeah if we talked to and ask him about that one.
That's why we put him on the map. But all
those Mary Tyler Moore shows, that the branching all of that, right, Yeah,
he was writing.

Speaker 11 (02:48:27):
On those shows. And back then television was written so
differently man, because it wasn't so many networks and one
that many shows, so you had great you had a
pool of great writers on one show. Now all the
writers so spread out all over all these shows. You
may get one, maybe two good writers per show. That's
why a lot of the shows aren't as funny or

(02:48:48):
aren't as well written today as it was back in
back in the day.

Speaker 1 (02:48:52):
Twenty had Away from the Top There rick is calling
us from Laurel and Maryland's online four Grand Rising. Ricky're
on with Guy Tori.

Speaker 13 (02:49:00):
Rising his brand Jesus, Hey, bigga, hey god man, you
and that American History asks my brother, Yeah, I like
you in that movie champ and uh no problem. Look
you say you can come from big family, right.

Speaker 3 (02:49:18):
Yes, just you.

Speaker 13 (02:49:19):
Just you and Joe were the only ones that came
out as far as doing comedy.

Speaker 11 (02:49:24):
Well, we ain't. We're not even the funniest ones in
the family. My mom, you know, Rest in Peace is
uh was funny, my dad Rest in Peace was funny,
and my older sibls were funny. We're just the ones
who are crazy enough to do a professional So the
rest of my family is funny and talented as well.

Speaker 13 (02:49:42):
Oh yeah, because I'm thinking you you guys could have
had a run with the Wayne's d Waynes you know
what I mean. I mean because most of them came
out and did it. But yeah, man, you did an
excellent job in American History.

Speaker 3 (02:49:53):
That was a good movie.

Speaker 13 (02:49:53):
You saw that called Inn't you?

Speaker 1 (02:49:56):
No, I haven't seen that movie. I gotta check it out.

Speaker 13 (02:49:58):
Yeah, man, that's a good one right there.

Speaker 11 (02:50:01):
That was my first dramatic role. Man Magew Surrected is
the movie about It's what Ed Norton, who actually got
nominated for an Oscar for that role he played in
that I played opposite him, and it's about you know.
Ed Norton plays' skinhead as a white supremacist. Uh, and
he's he's put in jail and he ends up you know,

(02:50:23):
meeting me and then the rest is history. Shout out
to Avery Brooks was also in that movie as well.
But yeah, man, it's it's a really good movie. Ed
Norton was nominated for Oscar for that movie. That movie
really turned Hollywood onto me as a dramatic actor because
there's my dramatic chops in there. We had a great
director of Tony k who allowed me to have the

(02:50:43):
green light and just bring whatever I wanted to to
this character.

Speaker 4 (02:50:47):
And it was.

Speaker 11 (02:50:48):
It was the most stressful roles I ever had, but
the most I think the most important role I ever played.

Speaker 7 (02:50:54):
Excellent.

Speaker 13 (02:50:56):
Check that movie out, Carl.

Speaker 5 (02:50:57):
It's a good one.

Speaker 13 (02:50:58):
All right, y'all have a good one.

Speaker 1 (02:50:59):
Man, How will you all right? Thanks? Rick? Twenty six
away from the top down a guy you've originally had
a healthcare it's just something you want to share with us.

Speaker 11 (02:51:09):
Yeah, man, Uh, you know, three weeks ago, Man, I
had a polinary embolism. Saddle bag, which is a kind
of blood clot on my lungs the size of like
a crab cake on my lungs. Man, and I had
to get emergency surgery. And it just hit me out
of nowhere, to be honest, because I was still doing great.

(02:51:30):
And I landed in Jacksonville, Florida, man to do a gig,
do some gigs that weekend, and I just felt weird
and I in the airport and I ended up going
to the hospital, man, and they did a cat scan
and bam, man, it was They were like, I could
have I could have died, like they did emergency surgery.

(02:51:52):
And it was like You're like, you don't you don't
understand how severe this was. You know, have a blood
clot in your lungs the size of that size, and
you made it. And by the grace of God, man,
he you know, he already gave me, you know, another chance.
He gave me a thousand chances. This is a thousand
and one chances. So you know, to me, it was

(02:52:12):
just a sign to like, you know, wake up, you know,
take care of your health, slow down, enjoy life, appreciate
every day. And I mean that tomorrow is not promised
and you got to appreciate every day no matter what
you're going through. And at the same time, my mom
had just passed, so I thought it was anxiety, you know.

(02:52:33):
I thought, maybe, you know, something happened because when I
was going to my mom and I was in the
process of putting her her memorial video tribute together. So
going through all the photos or my mom when she
was younger and growing up through the years, and going
through all the video on my mom and beautiful you
know she was and everything, I thought it was just
it had taken a toll on me. But it was

(02:52:54):
actually I was dealing with two traumas at the same time,
losing my mom and I'm still not over there, man.

Speaker 1 (02:53:05):
Yeah, yeah, And although Guy old, I thought we'll step
aside for a few moments and we come back though
all those trials and tribulations. Do you find humor in that?
Did you find something? You were laid up in the hospital,
were still think about comedy, thinking about writing a joke,
making something funny out of it? How'd you deal with that?
I'll let you explain when we get back. Twenty three
minutes away from the top of the family, our guest

(02:53:26):
is Guy Toy, he's an actor comedian. You've seen him
on TV and in the movies as well. You got
a question for him, reach out to us at eight
hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six and
we'll take your phone calls next and Grand Rising family,
thanks for staying with us all week hung and all
morning long, especially when right now we're having my brother,
Guy Tory. He's an actor comedian. I've seen him on
the movies, you've seen him on TV as well, and

(02:53:47):
they've probably seen his stand up tour. He's gone on tour.
We'll let you know about that before he leaves. But Guy,
before we left, we talked about your health. You had
health scare recently, and my question to you, how do
you deal when you have these challenges? You go back
into the comedy bag and a sort of a way
to mitigate what's going on internally? How do you deal
with it?

Speaker 11 (02:54:08):
Well, I didn't choose comedy. Comedy chose me. And so
of course when anything comes about as a comedian, you're
sot that muscle is always ready to find the joke
in it, find the funny. It's annoying to some people,
your friends and family, but at the end of the day,
you know, that's your profession, that's that's that's the assignment

(02:54:31):
and the gift that God gave you, so you know
it's going to happen. We almost can't turn it off.
It's annoying as hell to a lot of people, you know,
to be around comedians sometimes, so we don't turn it off.

Speaker 3 (02:54:43):
But that we don't.

Speaker 11 (02:54:45):
We don't turn it off sometimes because you know, we
need it all the time and that comedy is what
heals us on the inside and what and what masks
our pain on the inside. So yeah, no matter what
you're going through, you know, when Pops, you know, passed away,
you know the there's jokes when Mom passed away, of course,
there's you know, there's certain jokes when she was laying

(02:55:06):
in the hospital, certain jokes when she's laying not disrespectful jokes.
But that muscle doesn't turn off and it needs to
be that way. But that's why when you see a
lot of radio shows or dame shows and TV shows,
they have comedians as hosts because that thing we have
to be able to be funny on the spot and

(02:55:27):
not have dead air is the muscle that you like
in those instances so you have to take the good
with the bag. So yeah, of course I had jokes, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (02:55:38):
Got you sixteen away from the top of that. Guy.
Tell us about your documentary Fat Tuesday. How did that
come about?

Speaker 11 (02:55:45):
Well, Fat Tuesdays, first of all, was a comedy knight
I created at the world famous Comedy Store on the
Sunset Stript in Hollywood, California. It was a night that
really really changed the game and really changed Hollywood man.
When I moved to la in nineteen ninety two after
Robin King riots, you know the Comtact Theater which with
people have grown to love where Robin Harris made famous

(02:56:06):
and they put a lot of you know, comedians on
that stage. Shout out to MIKEL. Williams who created the
Comact Theater in le Mert Park in South central lah
After the riots, a lot of people stopped going South
of Wiltshire, which would be quote, you know, near South
Central to see black comedy. That's where Hollywood would come
and scout talent at the Comtact Theater and some of

(02:56:29):
those other clubs that was, you know, south of Wiltshire.
And so when the riots happened, a lot of industry
quit coming. A lot of black celebrities quit coming. So
these comedy venues that were in the hood basically.

Speaker 3 (02:56:43):
Was full of talent and.

Speaker 11 (02:56:45):
No one was really there the scouting. So at the
time I had I had that maybe two or three
years under my belt, and I went to my manager
and said, hey, I want to try and do a
room somewhere in a safe environment where people can come
see all the talent that's getting no look. I already
had an agent and a manager already I wanted to
put some other brothers and sisters on. So we settled

(02:57:07):
up the Comedy Store, and the Commede Store was like, yeah,
we'll give you all the shot, and they ended up
giving us Tuesday night in the smallest room, which holds
like ninety people, and I packed it out every week
and it eventually grew into the main room, which holds
four hundred people. So we grew very quickly and it

(02:57:27):
became like the talk of the town, but now the
talk of the country. Comedians from around the country when
they came to LA for something else, they would stay
extra day to do Fat Tuesdays. Because everybody was in
the room at Fat Tuesdays, Producers, directors, I mean everybody
from you know Ed Weinberger, Like I said earlier to

(02:57:47):
Denzel Washington, Prince, you name it. They came to the
Magic Johnson, they came to Fat Tuesdays and they saw
talent ice Cube. I mean, you name and that's where
you know a lot of comedians got, uh the start.
I won't say that it discovered them because I would
never claim that as Fat Tuesdays, and I won't say

(02:58:08):
that it put them where they are. But what it
was was maybe a carpool lane to where they were
going to go anywhere. You look at the guys like
Mike Epston, Kevin Harden and who came through in Chappelle
and all those guys who came through Fat Tuesdays, Nick Cannon,
uh JB. Smooth, they came through that room. They would
have dotted their destiny anyway. It's just that Fat Tuesdays

(02:58:31):
provided a carpool lane, a faster lane to get there
because you know, people saw them.

Speaker 7 (02:58:37):
Well.

Speaker 11 (02:58:37):
I had Depth Jam Depth Comic Jam auditions at Fat Tuesdays.
I had BT Comic Yew auditions at Fat Tuesdays. So yeah,
it was that night where where it was like, you know,
I don't know if it's like like BT Weekend every
weekend or or or you know a TV one party,
you know, you know party night. It was just it
was just dope.

Speaker 1 (02:58:58):
So this is he's completed already, this documentary running now.

Speaker 11 (02:59:04):
Amazon Yes, on Amazon Prime right now. We Uh. It
came about, man because I've been working on it underground
for like nine years, and I finally took to my
agent's office a couple of years ago and showed them,
you know, like a teaser real and they were like
amazed that I was sitting on that. But I've been busiting,
you know, I toured and things like that, so I

(02:59:25):
wasn't able to I pick it up and put it down,
pick it up, put it down. But I knew it
would eventually get done. I saw God gave me that
assignment and and I just knew I was gonna keep
water in that seed and it's gonna eventually grow. So
I ended up shopping it to some production companies in
LA ended up setting them with Kelsey Grammar. Kelsey Grammar's company,
Graham Net, saw it and was amazed with it, and

(02:59:48):
Kelsey wanted to be a part of it. He wanted
to co produce it, and that got me in you know,
a lot of doors. And then we went to Amazon,
and Amazon, you know, said we love it, we want
to do it, you know. And then we went to
out the couple directors. I wanted Reggie hundred, the Great
Reggie Hundreds. Reggie Hudders is from our area East Saint Louis,
Saint Louis in the Metro East area. Uh, he directed it,

(03:00:11):
and man, it's been doing phenomenal. It got one hundred
percent of rock Tomatoes. We were up for an Emmy,
a nomination for an Emmy, and uh, everybody's in it,
from my brother to Cedric Entertainer, to Snoop, to Tiffany Hattis,
to Bob Staggett Rest of Peace, to George Wallace to JB. Smooth,
you name it, Derrick, Chris Tucker, there all in, Steve Harvey,

(03:00:34):
all in this documentary.

Speaker 7 (03:00:36):
Wow.

Speaker 11 (03:00:38):
You know yeah, man, it's it's it's a it's a
good piece.

Speaker 7 (03:00:41):
Man.

Speaker 11 (03:00:42):
God gave me an assignment.

Speaker 1 (03:00:43):
I wanted to make sure that I did right by it,
you know, ten away from the top. And it's on Amazon,
by the way, But you keep mentioning God, how important
is your faith to what you do?

Speaker 11 (03:00:55):
That's the foundation my Mom and Dad built Man. That
built that built us on on on Christ. And that's
why when my mom passed away, you know, I was sad,
but I was happy because she prepared her whole life
to be with the Father. You know, our parents prepared
us our whole life to be.

Speaker 4 (03:01:12):
With the Father.

Speaker 11 (03:01:13):
So you know, at eighty seven, man she had she
had prayed for so many people and stood in a
gap for so many people and pray for us, you know,
and my dad as well, when you know, when he's alive,
and I'm sure he's still praying and they're still praying
for us. But yeah, they built us on a foundation
of Christ and to be serving. And that's why night
like that Tuesdays was able to happen because I wasn't

(03:01:35):
worried about my own career. I was I wanted to serve.
I wanted to put other comedians on who were getting overlooked,
who weren't given the opportunities that I was given because
I had already been, you know, working, and I was like, look,
it's enough for all of us to eat. But that
foundation that that my parents built, you know, as a
result of of of.

Speaker 3 (03:01:56):
Of our fruits.

Speaker 11 (03:01:58):
And I remember I I remember doing an interview about
fat Tuesday seven years back and this reporter at ask
the journalists asked me, well, who told you to start
fat Tuesday? I kind of got offended, you know, it
was it's a white guy, and he said, well, who
told you to start fat Tuesday? I said, nobody told
me to start fat Tuesday. And in that moment I

(03:02:18):
realized white Fat Tuesdays was started. I remember my father
always telling us to be proactive. Don't wait to be
asked to do something. If he sudden, if you see
something need done, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (03:02:29):
And do it.

Speaker 11 (03:02:30):
Don't wait to be asked. And that was fat Tuesday.
There was a void in the black community to showcase
black comedians and that boyd needed to be filled. And
that's what you know, the seed that was planning to
me to go ask, hey, I want to do a
room to showcase all this black talent. That's then that's
in the hood that's getting overlooked. And that's how Fat
Tuesdays came about.

Speaker 1 (03:02:51):
Wow ate away from it there. Well, let me ask
you this though, because your faith plays a role in
in your development, but does that does that is that
reflected in your production and your performances? Because you know,
many comedians think they have to use profanity or sex
to make fun of out of jokes. Some people make
fun of Sinbad because he wasn't that way. We're on

(03:03:14):
the spectrum of comedians.

Speaker 11 (03:03:15):
Do you lie, Hey, I'm a work in progress. I
Am not going to here and say that I'm mistake
and some of my material is it pushes the envelope.
I would definitely say that I am still a filthy rag,
but I'm getting clean. And with this last health scare
that I had, it definitely made me look at some

(03:03:36):
of my material and and and the direction that I'm
going to where I should go. So it definitely did
shed a spotlight on what I'm doing.

Speaker 7 (03:03:46):
And yes, some of my some.

Speaker 11 (03:03:50):
Of my jokes might make the devil blush. You know,
I'm not trying to. But I realized what I have
to do if I want to change that, and what
I have to do to change that, and that's just
to just be more more present in the word that
I am and and in the time it has changed,
but right now I am who I am, and and

(03:04:11):
you know you're gonna get You're gonna get wraw gud
toils and you're gonna get some good, the bad, the ugly.

Speaker 1 (03:04:18):
Oh.

Speaker 11 (03:04:18):
God To always said, I'm tripolar me myself and guy,
So you know you're gonna get one of them. You
don't get one of them or all three of them
on stage and any given performance. But I don't. I
don't critique someone else's creativity. You know, to Bad it
was was is a legend and still uh it's still funny.

(03:04:38):
I saw him not too long ago and he's still funny.
So you know, to each is all and and commony
is subjective. I mean, there's people who like certain styles
of comedy and and one of the things I tell
young comments everybody, everybody's not gonna think you're funny, and
that's okay, and it doesn't make them a hater. It
just makes um you're not the brand and of comedy.

(03:05:01):
I have friends who are comedians. I don't think they're funny,
but it's still my friend that your human is not
my brand of humor. And you can't be getting mad
at someone if they don't think you're funny. It's just
it's subjective. There's billions of comedians out there, and they'll
find somebody who makes them laugh. And you'll find there's
billions of people out there. You'll find a group of
people to make you laugh. Just hopefully it's enough of

(03:05:23):
them to keep your career sustaining and keep you working.

Speaker 1 (03:05:28):
Yeah, that's that's interesting a guy. I'm glad to hear that.
That's your perspective of what you just shared with us.
Is there anything you'd like to do professionally that you
haven't done? Any goals out there you can share, you know?

Speaker 11 (03:05:40):
You know, the reason the whole basis of doing Fat
Tuesdays was able to tell our stories, Black comedians stories,
and I wanted this production to be so great that
I get other opportunities to tell our stories. Our stories
aren't told enough. Black stories aren't told enough, but especially
in the comedy world, especially when it comes to female

(03:06:02):
comedians and their journey and their story and their struggle.
So that's my goal is to tell more stories of
black comedians who and even if the ones who who
who who was before me? Those stories are rich. Those
origin stories are how they came about. And then slaves,
like people don't realize slaves were the comedians slaves to

(03:06:25):
perform for the masters and if they were funny enough,
the slave masters would would would would would take them
to other plantations to perform for other slave masters. So
Negro has been on tour for a long time to
stand up. So those stories are rich and they're the
reason why I'm here today, and I would love to
have the opportunity to tell these stories, these great stories

(03:06:46):
of past president and future the future comedians that are
coming up today, the social medians, the ones who the
Internet comedians, I mean, they have origin stories as well.
So you know, I'm I'm all about bridging the gap
and and and and and extending in olive brands. So
many generations crap on a generation before them rather than

(03:07:06):
embrace the generation before them or the future generation. And
let's all come together and just be one, you know,
one nation to be honest. As as as comedians, Uh, and.

Speaker 1 (03:07:17):
Quickly, a guy, you're going on tours, your tour, can
you tell us any of the dates and places you're
gonna be?

Speaker 11 (03:07:23):
Yeah, My schedule is definitely on my website, Guide toy
dot com. I have six of them, but guide Tory
dot Guide Tory dot com, gid toy live dot com,
there's a GT Fat Tuesday's p a a t All
my schedules are on and on my Instagram at guide Tory,
I post everything uh or I'm gonna be My next
stop is Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Can't wait for that at at

(03:07:46):
the end of the month, and uh, I got the
next two weeks off. It's gonna take some time and relax,
still recover from the UH pulling their embolism UH procedure
and and uh and just refuse and and get my child.

Speaker 7 (03:07:59):
So I get cook.

Speaker 11 (03:08:00):
I need to be home for a man's writing.

Speaker 7 (03:08:02):
Cook. I love to cook.

Speaker 11 (03:08:03):
I get to cook.

Speaker 9 (03:08:04):
Man.

Speaker 1 (03:08:05):
All right, we're gonna let you go so you can
get in the kitchen. Thank you, guy, Thank you for
sharing your story.

Speaker 2 (03:08:10):
Man.

Speaker 1 (03:08:10):
That was inspirational. I gotta say that.

Speaker 11 (03:08:13):
Alrighty, Thanks man, thank you so much, and thank you
for your platform.

Speaker 1 (03:08:17):
Alrighty. Family classes dismissed the thanks guy, toy. We got
to get out of here. Stay strong, stay positive, please
stay healthy. We'll see you tomorrow morning, six o'clock right
here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB and then the
DMV on FM ninety five point nine and AM fourteen
fifty WOL

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