Keidi Awadu & Dr. Baruch on The Carl Nelson Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's in family and welcome to Thursday. Later, multi talented
researcher Katyawadu will introduce us to Autofee. I hope I'm
pronouncing that correctly. He'll explain what it is, by the way,
and how it can benefit us. Brother Keaty will also
update us on his ladies project in Ghana. But before
we hear from brother Keaty, naturopathic doctor and restaurant tour
doctor Barruk will join us. But first let's get Kevin

(00:21):
to wrotrom these classroom doors on this Thursday morning. Grand Rising, Kevin.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Grand Ris, ain't Carl Nelson, how you're feeling, man?

Speaker 3 (00:28):
How you feel?

Speaker 1 (00:30):
I'm still learning, Kevin, I'm still learning. Oh yeah, right,
you learn a lot today too.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Oh sure that leads to wisdom to continually do what
you do. You know that African proverb, he who knows
not and he knows he knows not that he knows
not is a fool. He who knows not and knows
he knows not. It's simple. He who knows and knows
not that he knows as asleep awaken him. And he

(00:55):
who knows and knows he knows is wise follow him.
So we follow you because you're a wise man.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Wow, you nail that one.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
A friend of mine, Johnny D, used to end his
radio show with that a long time ago. He kind
of helped me get into radio, and that's how he
used to end this show. So I was like, wait
a second, let's quote that African problem there, you know, yes, yes, yes, there,
and today you know we it could have been me,

(01:27):
It could have been the other way. That's why we
give thanks today, is the way I'm putting it, man,
you know. And then of course there's a big tragedy,
tragedy rather happening, and the two National guardsmen who were
shot yesterday and that's all the buzz today. A man

(01:50):
and a woman and the National Guards and actually they're
pretty young people. So I'm just you know, talking off
the top of my head now, just because I spoke
to a couple of them yesterday who actually looked kind
of frightened, and they're gathering around together. It almost looks like,
you know, they're really up to something. And what do

(02:14):
you think? What are your thoughts of that? Before I go,
you know what, Kevin, what it really is? The job
all of a sudden becomes serious because they came into
the district and they mean basically a cleanup crew, you know,
cleaning up and making the beautifying the district. Yeah, now
this is real because you know, they got uniforms on
their targets as you know, before they thought, okay, we'll

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just you know, buy some time here. We're still getting paid,
but we're doing what the sanitation workers in the district
is supposed to do. And then I do it and
we're cleaning up the city and all of a sudden,
now two of them get shot. So it becomes real.
So of course that they you know, they're having second thoughts.
Now you know this this is you know, they've got

(02:57):
to be more conscious, more aware of their surroundings as well,
right right, and they're carrying weapons, so and it's really
a dangerous set of circumstances. Now, they were from West
Virginia National Guard and were seen in critical condition after
that shooting, and they're in the hospital. So there's still

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no word on their condition. But President Trump called the
shooting a monstrous ambush style attack, adding that the suspect
was a foreigner who came to the US from Afghanistan
way back in September twenty twenty one and I'm getting
to look up the suspect's name, but you were.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Saying from Lakawan Tho.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, yeah, that's it, right on the tips on the
tip of my tongue there, yeah, right. And the President said,
as we are filled with anguish and grief for those
who were shot, we also filled with righteous anger and
ferocious result.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Makes me wonder who wrote that.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, that was written for him, of course. But you
know what, he didn't say that the suspect the end
of the country. In September twenty twenty two, oneesty mentioned
under the Biden administration's program Operation Allies, which welcomes to
the processed Afghans who were fleeing the Taliban tagle, he
was prolling the country on humanitarian grounds. Now, he applied
for asylum in twenty twenty four, that's December twenty fourth.

(04:26):
It was granted asylum in twenty twenty five. But Donald
Trump doesn't tell you who was the president which administrations
were in charge when he was granted asylum, because they
could have rejected.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Him, right, that was big during.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
The rioting, denied him asylum and kept him still in
abeyance in a parole status. And you know let's find
out some more about these folks. But they rubber stamped
him and they're not going to tell that part of
the story about it. They're gonna blame it all on
Bide when they had a chance to cut him off
the next they could have rejected his asylum because he
he applied on under the Trump administration. So only him

(05:03):
fool You don't him go around and say so Biden's
fault when he could have stopped this, but go ahead.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
That's when Trump was just signing everything they put in
front of him, two hundred and fot auto pen like
two hundred and fifty executive orders, so he didn't have
time to read the fine print and things like that.
I'm not trying to, you know, defend him or anything.
I'm just saying he was signing a lot of stuff

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that it's still yet to be revealed, such as things
like that. The Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noans said on
x that the suspect came, like I said, under Operation Allies,
and Trump confirmed plans to send five hundred more guard
personnel to the nation's capital, which was announced earlier by
Defense Secretary Pete Hexsef. Now you know by sending more,

(05:55):
how's that gonna do? Why not just the ones that
are hearing make them more vigilant now in their watch What.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Wants to show that in case anybody believes that this
intimidated UH the country or intimidated his rule. But I
guess they made this decision without figuring out if this
guy was a loan gunman or if he was part
of a group, an organized group. If he was part
of an organized group, I can see you're question five
hundred or more whatever if there's an organized threat, But

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if there's none of this guy's a lone wolf, you know,
is it a waste of resources?

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Or was he radicalized by you know, some organization, right,
some terrorist organization. That's what they're insinuating that he was radicalized.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Right, Yeah, that he was radicalized or he could be
tricked into doing that, you know, mind control or something
like that. They use a lot of that. That's been
used quite a bit in some of these you know,
some people's thought that that was happened to not the
person is accused of shooting RFK, Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
At the press conference, FBON director Cash Patential said that
those two West Virginia National Guardsmen were close to the
White House. When they were shot, it was at Farragut West,
and if you know anything about Farragut West, it's a
huge metro stop, and so there's lots of traffic, lots

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of people milling about. It Just it almost doesn't seem
possible that a gunman could one not be seen and
two be able to dare I say a target to
National Guards, one woman and one man. It's just if
you know anything about Farraict West, you can hardly drive

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through there.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
So it's this uncanny.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
A DC Metropolitan Police Department Executive Assistant Chief Jeffrey Carroll
said that the suspect is in custody and was taken
to a local hospital. I believe it was GW Hospital
in Washington Hospital Center. And in other news, the barn
where Emmit Till was killed is going to be turned

(08:14):
into a memorial and it was purchased after a one
point five million dollar donation from Gray's Anatomy creator Shonda Rhymes.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Oh, yeah, well, I guess she's making a preemptive move
before that dismiling and get rid of it, so, you know,
because they're trying to do away with our history and
history like that. It's a story they don't want to
be told about Emmitt till you know, if they do
tell a story, they'll make it seem that he did
it himself. He committed, he committed suicide. So what she's

(08:48):
doing is trying to restore and maintain the real story.
And that's what she has the funds to do it,
and so kudos to her.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, she says she wants to do it before the
seventy fifth anniversary of Emmit Hills lynching, and visitors will
come not to look at the tragedy, but to confront
their own role in the ongoing work of democracy. And
we did not save this place to dwell in grief.
We save this so that truth could keep shaping us.

(09:18):
And finally, carl this lady that we had our guests
the other night the other day around the Latasha Brown
wants black consumers to save one hundred percent off with
an economic protest of retailers who take us for granted.
And she's calling it we ain't buying it, and she's

(09:39):
got a huge website we ain't buying it, which says
join us on November twenty seventh through December one this
Thanksgiving through Cyber Monday, let's make on dollars count. We're
asking Americans to hit pause on shopping from major corporations.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
And that website is we.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Ain't Buying It dot com and they market target, Amazon,
Home Depone, you know, places like that, and you can
look at them and sign the pledge become a part
of the conscious consumer movement.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Your thoughts, Uh, that is interesting? Are those few days
are they're going to do it? And it has made
a significant impact because you know, as a question I
put to a Target for example, I had to pull
back on some of its some of his promotions, some
of the people that work for it right that to
lay them off because but this was started back in January.

(10:33):
So my question, do you need a longer period for
this to be effective? Will be effective with those these
a few days, So that's a question. And you know you,
you know, Kevin, they're going to show Black Friday probably
on the news tomorrow as soon as they go those
doors tonight, and you're gonna see people who look like
us in the front fighting that's going there and spend

(10:53):
their money, so they they won't they didn't get the message,
you know, and uh, you know this still addicted to white.
It's like the fox would say.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Well again the African proverb he who knows not and
knows he knows not. It's simple, you teach them, but
he who knows not and knows not that he knows not.
You're gonna gonna stay away from them, you know, you
want to shun them as as the phrase says. So
they're gonna be those who don't know, and we can

(11:25):
we blame them if they don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
It's some saying.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
But well, I think we'll talked to Wilson said about
that too when we talked about this a little bit
yesterday with researcher brother side Ky Maccari. You gotta be
patient with somebody, folks, Kevin, you know, because not everybody
gets the message at the same time, and you know,
and when they get it, go you weak up.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
This is what they This is what they talking, This
was what it meant. Yeah, it's the folly of youth.
And and I don't mean chronologically, I just mean the
folly of youth. Sometimes, like you said, if you're not
still learning, you think you know everything, and then when
the student is ready, the teacher appears.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
So you don't know what you know until after you
know everything you know.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Then you then then you find out how much you
don't know exactly.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Then wisdom is on the way. And so one last thing.
I want the Commanders.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Playing today, aren't they Aren't they playing the Broncos today?

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:25):
I think they are. I've forgot to check the schedule. Yeah,
me too.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
I was just looking at some things. Maybe it's Sunday.
I'm not sure, but you know.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
It's gonna yeah, it might be Sunday, right, I think
it's the Sunday night game eight o'clock. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Oh good.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
It's gonna be a blessed day, a blessed weekend. If
I have anything to do with it, I'm gonna whisper.
You know, today's the twenty seven Thanksgiving Day around the country,
and it's six fourteen. That's the way it is, gol,
thanks a lot for your time.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Alrighty, thank you, Kevin. Let's bring in doctor Barok, doctor
Baroku rising brother.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Grand Rising, my brother and grand rising brother, Kevin.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Indeed, Grand Rising.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
You know we talk about learning, and you've shared this
with us before. How long that you have been a vegetarian.
I want you to share that because we always have
some new listeners if we share that story with us again,
Doctor Bruke, what was it that made you stop eating
me when you become food conscious?

Speaker 4 (13:25):
If you will, well, that was a great question, and
again I want to thank you for the opportunity to
come on here and share with your audience the information
that I think is critical not only to our personal
health and well being, but I also our financial health
and well being. I think there's a tie in between

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health and our finances. We lose our health and then
of course our financials go down the drain because we're
trying to spend our last couple of dollars just to
stay alive for the last couple of days of our life.
But yeah, it started for me way back when I
was seven and she was the most beautiful woman I'd
ever seen in my life. Brother Carl, she she was

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my second grade teacher, and she she mentioned to me
that I should I shouldn't eat pork. I was eating
pork pork top sandwich that that Thursday, because that's what
we did on you know, I guess it was on Friday.
It was on that Friday afternoon, I was eating a
porkchop sandwich, because Thursday night was pork night, and Friday night,
of course it's fish night. And Sunday, I remember, was chicken.

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And there were just certain nights, there, certain days that
we had certain foods. And so when she who was
in my mind, my wife told me that I shouldn't
eat pork, it was done. That was the book was sealed.
At that point. I wasn't doing pork anymore. And she, uh, well,
let me this.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Would you have done the same thing if she said chicken.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Brother Carl, This was my wife. Man. I loved that woman.
I loved her.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Ten years old and crushing. You're seven years old and
you're crushing and on a grown woman she was.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
She had a big angela Davis afro and it was brown,
and she had a big happy smile and she was, Yeah,
she was. She was very I would think she today
even I would think she's an attractive woman. So it
wasn't just my youthfulness and not knowing and not knowing
that I don't know how brother Kevin, Yeah, that I

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knew enough, you know, based on I guess hanging out
with my older brother, I had been able to determine
what was attractive and she was very kind to me
and she was so she had a great impact on me.
And she just told me I shouldn't report because it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Well hold thought right there. I want to dig in
this a little bit more, doctor bur because was she
did she treat you special? When you come back, tell
us it because you know sometimes the teacher teachers, you
like the teacher's pet. If that was your role and
you interpreted that to something else, family, you took and
join our commisay this Thursday morning. Reached out to us
at eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight

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seventy six, you could speak to doctor Brook and we'll
take your phone calls eighteen minutes after the tom of
the hour next and grand Rising family, thanks for waking
up with us on this Thursday morning. You're part of
the crowd that's not addicted to white. I'm sure you
joined us this morning. Our guess is doctor Baroke. Doctor
Brook is a restaurant tour but it's also an arthopatic doctor.
And it's been a vegetarancy. He said when he was
seven years old, Doctor Brook, were you a vegetarian? Just

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just stop eating the pig.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
I just stopped leading the pig at seven. It was
eleven when I had pulled back on all of the
dead animal flesh.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Were you the teacher's pat that doctor? Were you?

Speaker 4 (16:41):
You know?

Speaker 1 (16:41):
You know some teachers they like they picked up on
one child of the class and they you know, you know,
just falling over that that particular child. Was that you?
That's why you and you saw that differently?

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah? So she did treat me nice?

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Was she was?

Speaker 4 (16:56):
You know, she did give me preferential treatment? And uh,
and I you know, embraced that and decided in my
mind that you know, yeah, there was something going on
here and I liked it.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
True, Kevin any lucky huh just amounted all the other
children in the class. And and and you got your
teacher who's fine. And you know what fine is At
seven years old, you're looking for a grown woman and
all of a sudden she's she likes you.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Wow, And that energy it worked though.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
There was something about it, a positive attraction that it
turns you into the educator you are today.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
You see.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
So yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Learnt Is that that? Do you think that's the cause?

Speaker 4 (17:43):
I think there was. You could look up now and
see that that one day caused me to be a
restaurant tour thirty years. That was impact. She had a
huge impact on it. There's nobody I think, maybe maybe
I speak up my grandmother a lot, and and maybe
she did, But this woman has completely She chose a

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career for me by telling me, hey, you shouldn't eat
that because that's not healthy. Because you know, who at
seven years old is concerned about their health. It doesn't
taste good, Can my mama fix it? And maybe a
couple of other things, you know, we thought of, But
for her, she put on my mind the whole notion
of eating healthy to benefit your body and not harm

(18:24):
your body. And by the time I was eleven, I
realized that cutting out all of the dead Admiral flush
was you know, again in line with what it is
that she had given me the foundation of back when
I was seven, and that is that it wasn't healthy. So,
you know, those who would define what I eat as vegetarians,
I like to say that I eat healthy, you know,

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and maybe you would call it then plant based healthy,
you know, So I eat plant based healthy and that
makes a difference, you know. And I get a chance
to go back to our school reunions. Oh, and I
would say this also, I've never seen that teacher again
since the second grade, So since I was seven, I've
never seen her. I've spoken about her almost at every
lecture that I have been speaking at, and I have

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never seen miss Williams again.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Well, she was young, and what city was at doctor Brook?
Maybe somebody knows her and miss Williams ye, Miss Sherry Williams.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
She was at Fort DuPont Park seventh day of been
a school and that was in nineteen seventy two.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
If somebody knows, so, please have a call. Le's let's
hook her up here with doctor Baruch. Yeah, like the
old TV show This is Your Life, This is your Life.
She'll come from behind the curtain twenty four minutes to
have a time. Jay's jowing us. I think he's got
a similar situation online too. He's in Detroit, Grand Rising, Jay,

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your own doctor Baruk.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Yeah, Grand Rising, Grand Rising again to doctor Baroke. Fascinating
the story. Yeah, also had a crush in the second grade,
Miss Hawthorn, and uh, very interesting. She didn't give me
this story about not eating a flesh, but she was
pretty instrumental in, you know, guiding us young black students.

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But I also had a teacher that affected my life
even more so than Miss Hawthorn. That would be Missus Robertson,
who was our music teacher, and she debunked some of
the social engineering we got through media about black people
and black people in Africa because she was a Pan

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Africanist back in the fifties and she and her husband
during summer vacation that visited, you know, different countries in Africa,
and she had some home films. So she was showing
us these home films and we were sitting laughing, you know,
based upon what we had seen on tires Land and
shows like that, and she stopped the projector she told us,

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you know what Africa was all about. This is where
you come from. This these are your people, your relatives.
I don't never want you to see you acting in
such an inappropriate manner. And I never forgot that they
gave me a consciousness that our schooling wasn't given us.
So that would be my story. And I think I
had a bigger crush on her just because of her

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intellect and the knowledge that she was passing on to
us as a young black students in the midst of
a racist, segregated society and school system. So my story
related to that. But I did want to ask doctor
Baruk a question because it took me much longer to

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become a vegetarian. I was a ferocious, ferocious accounivoy, you know,
and I love fried chicken. You know, that was like
my eating He chickened six seven days a week. And
finally I started developing come mobility that was deleterious to

(22:05):
my health. So I had I was forced to change
and uh, actually my sister and my uh grandmother, my
grandmother had this book called Back to Eden, and that
uh precipitated my sister becoming a vegetarian and then uh
some years later, I finally, uh you know, succumbed to that,

(22:28):
and there's really been life changing and some of the
things that doctor Perug is going to talk about, and uh,
you know, I'm one of his, uh his students, and so,
uh yeah, I wanted to ask him question about iron
because you know, the narrative is if you're a vegetarian,

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you don't get the proper protein and you don't get
the proper iron. Because you know, lately, I've been having
a little issue with hemoglobe and being low, you know,
those type of things. So could he kind of a
dress that I'm sorry for my narrative. They went a
little long.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
Okay, great, great, once again, good to hear your voice,
my brother. There there are a number of deficiencies that develop,
especially in the United States of America, when you decide
to no longer eat dead animal flesh and and and
it's not that we are naturally deficient excuse me, dependent
upon or deficient of, you know, the flesh of an animal.

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That's not the case when we are naturally uh, plant
based people or plant based earth lanes, if you will.
We know that because of our teeth, we know that,
because of our stomach, we know that because of our
our whole digestive tract, you know, communicates that to us
and any any other creature with a digestive track and

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a mouth shaped like ours, and the saliva and they
chemistry of our body, any other creature that has this
that is not influenced by marketing and advertising and all
types of conditions that may have caused us to cause
them to migrate away from what they're naturally doing, you'll

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find that they're they're also they're also plant based. So
with regards to deficiencies. Yeah, there's a there's a you'll
find that some some vegetarians are deficient and iron, some
of them are deficient and be twelve vitamins and and
and that's because that's something that they're getting from dead
animal flesh that they're not getting in the in the

(24:38):
robust quantities and levels inside of their vegetarian diet. However,
I would say that many of us, you know, under
the illusion that all you have to do is stop
eating dead animals and you all of a sudden become healthy. No, No,
you have to eat plant based healthy. And that's the
key part of this. You know, it's not it's not
just going over the plant based and now eating all

(24:59):
the carbohydrates and living off the carbohydrates, because you know
what that's going to turn into. They're going to be overweight,
they're going to be unhealthy, and they're going to find
themselves getting sick and dying, just like everybody else out
of here. I want to, you know, you have to
want to make that transition to eating plant based healthy.
And that's the reason why I became plant based was
that I wanted healthier. You know, I'm not I'm not

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a plant based consumer that they did what I did
because of my love for the animals, you know, so
I'm you know, there's a level of concern for the animals,
but my greatest love was for myself and the reason
why we opened up the restaurant was because of my
great concern for my community and the fact that if
this information doesn't get to our community, then we find ourselves,

(25:43):
you know, ignorant to the negative impact of a diet
that we had adopted and adopted and celebrate, you know,
we celebrate this diet, this soul food diet is celebrated
in our community as though you know, this is this
is something that we should you know, lift up and
and we should be proud of. And sure it's what

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we lived off of. We survived off of this diet.
But at some point we do need to break away.
And as we break away, we find the deficiencies they
come about as a result of eating this way. And
those are two that come up. There's also the vitamin
D three or vitamin D deficiency rather and the magnesium deficiencies.

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But those deficiencies aren't necessarily directly tied in with the
plant based food choices that people are making, but they
are prevalent and are worthy of a lot of attention
because you find that when you have those deficiencies, they
lead to many of the chronic illnesses that we have
in our community. So we do maintain a connection to

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our medical doctor, our medical doctor for his diagnosis. We
want to know what he sees as we don't have
the diagnostic tools that he has. He can look in
and see what you're deficient of. He can give you
the blood work, he can analyze the blood work, and
he can translate that to you so that you can
you can understand what it is that is necessary on

(27:08):
your end. But where we stop, or I'd like to
think it's important for us to challenge ourselves is let's
challenge ourselves to eat a healthier diet before we jump
on the chemical that our body is not deficient of
in order to address a problem, a chronic problem that
is primarily created by our poor food choices.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Very good, Very good. Yeah. I always remember when you
stated about us not necessarily being a natural carnivore. You know,
if you go down the road you see a dead
animal on the road, you don't start salivating because you
see that animals So I'll never forget that. That's a

(27:52):
great analogy and a good metaphorically speaking, you know, that
brings it home, you know. So yeah, well into all
of you.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
You know, Jay, you join and ask you a question.
When you smell fried chicken, the smell of fried chicken,
what does that do for you? Now?

Speaker 5 (28:16):
You know, it used to be a time where you know,
I would start, you know, salivating and said, oh man,
this is great because my grandmother and my mother and
my relatives made some of the great, you know, fried chickens.
But now you know, it kind of turned me off.
Now if I smell any kind of meat or food,

(28:36):
or if I see you know, like today everybody be
socially engineeredy this bird, you know, because that's what people do.
And uh, you know, I don't participate in that. And
you know, my lifestyle has influenced you know a lot
of my contemporaries where they try to eat better because
they've seen the changes in me, you know, and I'm

(28:58):
still not perfect.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
You know.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
There's certain things like this this new generation of plant
based food that supposedly tastes like meat or whatever, you know,
and I tried some of that, but you know, the
when you look at the ingredients on the side of
the box and you see other chemical composition. Some ways

(29:20):
it's almost worse than me. But no, Yeah, it used
to be a time where when I first made that transition,
that you know, that that would trigger certain things. But
now you know, because I've been doing this probably about
twenty five years now, so I don't salivate and I
won't be salivating, you know, as I get together with family,

(29:42):
when you know, they do their traditional stuff. And I
actually stop eating pork back in the seventies, you know,
pork and beef. I got away of that. So it's
basically with fish and chicken for the predominant time of
my adult life when I was still eating you know, flesh.
But then I eventually let all of that go off.

(30:03):
So so now you know, and I've told people, there
are so many great recipes that you can make, uh
in a plant based diet that you know you you
won't you won't miss it.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
You know.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
It's it's a mindset because most people I talked to
and they say, you don't eat me.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
I could.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
I could never do that, I said, Yeah, I used
to say the same thing, you know, but as you
get older, your body will tell you what's right and
what's wrong, you know, And as doctor Brooks said, those
medication that to give is basically just turning off the
alarm or your body. It's like having a household alarm

(30:43):
and alarm go on. You just turn it off and
you're still not addressing the issue who broke into your
house or whatever. So so yeah, I'm you know.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Jay, where you go? What are you having today? Instead
of the turkey?

Speaker 5 (30:59):
I'll have my because we're having like a little pot luck,
so I will have my lntal salad that I make
with some black beans and some other special ingredients and
spices that I love. So that'll be my main course,
along with a salad with low cat. You know, I

(31:23):
don't really I use this commercial brags, vinegar dressing, you know,
those type of things. So that's what I'll be. I
won't be particulating any macaroni and cheese or any of that.
And I wish doctor Baruk was based here where, you know,
I could be a consumer of his products that he's

(31:46):
talked about he'll probably talk about today. Also that gives
you a healthier alternative to our traditional so called soul food.
And my last statement would be we as people America,
but especially black folks who we dig our own grades
with knife and fork and spoon. So hopefully, you know,

(32:09):
it's a process. Hopefully people will listening to doctor Barok
and others and follow some of the examples that he gives.
So you know, it's great to be able to still
be here after seventy blush years, you know, going around
the sun so uh and changing my dad was an

(32:30):
instrumental part of that for sure.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
All right, thanks Jay, Hey, all right to Brooke. Got
a couple of tweets for you already. The tweeters are
up this morning. I guess they're, you know, putting that
turkey in there, but they've got questions for you as well.
It's twenty three minutes away from the top day, but
we got to step aside and get caught up in
the ladies news, trafficking weather in our different stations. Family
just waking up and joining us. I guess there's Nachi
padic doctor and restaurant tour. Doctor Barok has a restaurant

(32:55):
in the DMV will tell but that because it's open
today and if you're looking for an alternative, it's a
good spot to go. To we're right now. If you've
got a question, any question about health or about food,
you can reach us at eight hundred four or five
zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take a calls
after the news. That's next and Grand Rising family, thanks
for waking up with us on this Thursday morning. It's
a holiday for some others who are not addicted to

(33:15):
the White holidays with us. And I'm we're glad to
have you got some tweet questions. I guess it happens
to be doctor Buruk. Doctor Brook's an atropathic doctor and
also a restaurant tour talking about alternatives for the traditional
holiday meal. Today you're going to learn something. You don't
have to eat what they what they you know, prescribe
to us. You don't have to do what the other
folks do. You can do what you do. You give

(33:36):
it a chance and make up your own mind. This
is how we all got to where we are now.
Before we go back to doctor Root, that's want to
remind you to come up late this morning we speak
with brother Katy. He's going to join us. He's going
you talk about some health issues as well, and it's
also going to talk about a project he's working on
in Ghana, and Tomorrow's Friday, We're going to give you
another chance to free your mind. All that means is
think for yourself and join us for our open phone
Friday program. Became promptly at six am Eastern time, and

(33:59):
I went to the last A lot of every Friday.
There's a bunch of folks who don't get on because
they wait till last minute. So make sure you start
start jumping on at six am Eastern time right here
in Baltimore on ten ten WLB, or if you're in
the DMV, or on fourteen fifty wol doctor Brooke, because
how much. I got a couple of tweets for you.
But Asher has joined us from Bowie. Asha, I hope
I'm putt pronouncing your aim correctly online two grand risey

(34:22):
huh Hello, yeah, yes, here on the air.

Speaker 6 (34:26):
Oh Coray, thank you so much, and thank you for
this show. So I just have a question for Brooke,
doctor Brook. So you know, how do we avoid that
gaining that extra ten or twenty pounds during the holidays,
you know, between Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year's You know,
we eat so much. You know, we eat so much,
and the food it's so delicious. How do we avoid

(34:50):
getting that because you know, we spend the rest of
the year trying to lose that weight. But but how
do we stay healthy and maintain a healthy eating pattern
or a diet during these holidays with all these things
going on? And if you can let me know, you know,
where are you located?

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Great?

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Great question, Well, I think you partially answered your question.
We eat so much, and it's because we eat so
much that we find ourselves overweight. We over indulge, you
know where we're definitely people that have an inkling or
leaning towards eating comfort foods. We choose comfort foods more
so than other communities because our life is tough, you know,

(35:32):
and it's not it's tough by design, but it's also
tough in that when we don't have the right knowledge
about what we should be doing with our lives or
in our life, we find that we can make our
life more challenging. And when our life becomes more challenging,
we look for relief. And one of the best places
that you can find relief is at the dinner table.

(35:53):
You know, you eat that which you know is appealing
and pleasing to the tongue without regard for it impact
on our body. And today is going to be one
of those days where a lot of people eat a
lot of stuff that is pleasant to the tongue but
egregious to the body, and you know, we'll have that
deleterious impact on us that many of us will find

(36:14):
ourselves in emergency rooms today because of the impact that
we've had on our bodies. Eating too much and eating
too much of the bad thing or wrong thing is
just exacerbating it. So that's that's one of the challenges.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
That I have.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
Let's pull back on the amount of bad food that
we consume overall. I consider it a step up. We
take this opportunity during the holiday season, during the cold uh,
during the cold months. You know, these these months are
called the cold and flu months, but they're actually not
cold and flu as much so as they are the
vitamin D deficiency months. So we want to make sure

(36:51):
that we're eating as healthy as we can always, we're
properly supplementing and for those of us who do have
specific health challenges, addressing them on the front side as
much so as we can with nutrition, maybe eating a
little bit more of something, a little less of something else.
And if yours happens to be obesity, or yours happens

(37:11):
to be the fact that you've gained weight, you want
to cut back on your carbohydrates. You want to cut
back definitely on the sugary beverages that you're consuming. You
want to increase the dark, leafy green vegetables. You want
to eat, maybe not as many times over the course
of the day. Many of us are a lied to
believe that we should eat three times a day and
we should snack in between. And yeah, that works real

(37:33):
well for the food industry in the United States of America,
but that's not how the body is designed. You know,
if you think back before the days of grocery stores
and even before the the the advent of ovens and
refrigerators in our homes, we would go out in the backyard.
We would have gardens, and we would we would go

(37:54):
out in the backyard and we would eat what we
what we had planted and what we had harvest that
out of our black backyard. So there's a whole new
cycle that we have entered into that we've transitioned and
transformed our existence more than any other creature on the planet.
And you know, now we go to grocery stores that

(38:15):
have forty fifty lanes worth of stuff in them, with
only about two lanes maybe of something healthy that we
can consume. That's the healthy food section, which is ironic
that they would have inside of a grocery store a
healthy food section. So that would you know then that
all the rest of the food is unhealthy. You know,
that's a basic deduction. And then of course they have

(38:36):
the produce section, and those tend to be on the
far ends of the grocery store. All the bad for
you stuff is in the middle of the grocery store
with all the ingredients that are contributing to our poor health. So, yeah,
pulling back on the amount, the volume of food that
we're consuming, eating healthier, and I think also changing your

(38:56):
mind because you'd be surprised how two people can eat
the same meal get two different results and how does
that happen? And it has a lot to do with
their state of consciousness and has a lot to do
with why they're eating and how they perceive themselves, you know,
and and and what they perceive their life to be
about and all of that. You know, it's tied into psychology.

(39:20):
So a person who has a low self worth, a
person that has a psychology that is anti you know
self at some level, tends to eat you know, well,
eat food, but it will impact their their life. It
will impact their progress in a different way than somebody
who's excited, uplifting, empowered, motivated to do good things and

(39:42):
is eating this food because they need this food in
order to move them forward with the agenda that they have.
So there's a there's research that was done out of
New York with regard to that whole notion that if
your state of consciousness impacts how you absorb food. There
was a person who had twenty four personalities and in

(40:03):
one instance, one of his personalities was violently allergic to
orange juice. So it's the same body, but it's just
that personality. When that personality took over, they would break
out in hives, they would you know, they would get
sick there are they would become inflamed internally when they

(40:23):
consume our juice. And if they were any of the
other personalities, the same body would not be impacted by this.
So the mind has a very powerful role to play
in how we process and how we benefit from the
food that we have, So you want to be of
a good and positive and empowering state of mind. You

(40:43):
want to love yourself and as you as you do.
So you of course want to make the best choices
that you can on behalf of yourself and don't over indulge,
indulge during this season. Hospitals are going to be full
of people tonight who over indulge, who assume something that
they knew they shouldn't be consuming. But it's the holidays,
so I'll give myself a break today. Now, you put

(41:07):
yourself in the emergency room and you had a heart
event today because you decided that your tongue was more
important to you than your organs, your vital organs. And
that is tied into our self work. That the number
one health condition affecting the African American in the United
States of America. It's not obesity, it's not heart disease,
it's not high blood pressure or diabetes. It's low self work.

(41:30):
So you have to feel better about yourself so that
you're can make better choices on behalf of yourself. And
having felt better about yourself is going to make even
what you consume benefit you in a way that otherwise
it wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
All right, And she asked about what time you you
open today and can you give you your address of
your restaurant, Doctor.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
Burt, Great, great, Thank you very much, brother Carl. That's
eLife Restaurant located at nine zero three three Central Avenue
in Capitol Heights, Maryland. We are open today from ten
o'clock until seven o'clock. You can expect a line there
at ten o'clock this morning. There'll be a bunch of
people that want to come in and grab food, many
of whom.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
Did not.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Prepare food at their own homes, and they will try
to come in and kind of create a catering a
purchase today. And you know, sure, we love the business,
but it kind of takes away from the fact that
many people just want to come in and try something
healthy today. And we don't want everybody coming in and
trying to fill catering orders this morning, and we shun it,

(42:32):
so we kind of push back on the volume of
food that people can get. But you know, people want
to enjoy their food and they like they like eating healthy.
But yeah, we encourage you to give us a call
a couple of days in advance so that we can
get your catering order next year. But today, yeah, we'll
have a special meal. This will be a special holiday
meal that we produce every year. And we're open from

(42:54):
ten to seven, nine zero three three Central Avenue, Capital Heights, Maryland.

Speaker 7 (42:58):
We love to serve you all right.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Sticks away from the top of I got to tweets questions.
I mentioned the tweet from Elaine. She says she's going
to try to furky for the first time today and
she's asking you what should she expect.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Well, I think, first off, you should expect that you're
making the decision because you think it's better for you.
So I think it's a good thing. You know, you've
made a conscious decision about your own self that you
want to put something healthier in your body, and you
recognize that maybe a dead turkey and a dead chicken
and a dead pig might not be the best thing,

(43:33):
and or the flesh from those animals might not be
the best thing. So that's a great positive first step.
People seize in their food differently. You know, when I
used to eat meat althose for just a few years
of my life. That you know, some people know how
to prepare chicken and season chicken right, and some people

(43:54):
don't and it is if you don't season your food correctly, yeah,
it will not taste is good. And with tofu, tofu
has no taste at all. And the tofurkey is uh
it seasoned reasonably well the last time I had tofurkey,
which has been a minute. I don't do a lot
of processed meat, uh, the analog meat that is produced,

(44:15):
the meat alternatives. I don't do a lot of process
because just like I call I said on the beginning
that many times that is you know, is not healthy
for you either. So we I lean more towards the
plant based whole food. In other words, eating food that
looks like it looked when it was picked, you know,
off the tree or off the ground or off the zyne.

(44:35):
It tends to be healthier and our body recognizes it
and you know, we get better results. But tofurkey is
a great alternative to you know, the the dead, dead animal, uh,
that that we find ourselves consuming on days like today.
Give it a shot, you know, be be prepared for
the texture to be quite different. You know, it's not

(44:56):
going to exactly mimic turkey or chicken or poor. However,
there there's a level of expertise that is present today
that wasn't around when I became a plant based consumer,
because you had to have a big imagination. You know.
My mother would say, you know, here we fried the tofu. Tonight,
we're going to put catch up on it. So now
it's a burger and tomorrow night, you know, well we

(45:18):
might put some old based seasoning on it. So it's fish,
it's the same tofu. But she would just put a
different seasoning on it, it would be different. So today
we have food engineers that have created, you know, our
taste profile in the alternative meat space that you know,
we got a big benefit that those of us who
were pioneers back in the seventies didn't get. So you know,

(45:42):
take advantage of it. Be happy that at least you
know the food, this food can be consumed and it
tastes good. It's a good thing.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
So the seasoning is the key, right, The seasoning is.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
The key to making it desirable. You know, to make
it nutritious and beneficial is a whole nother formula, but
the seasoning is always. Yeah, you know, how you season
your greens, how you season your your mac and cheese
is gonna you know, make it more desirable or less desirable,
depending on whether you know what you're doing or not.
The same seasonings tend to go in the foods, you know,

(46:17):
whether you're eating plant based or whether you're eating the
standard American diet or the worst diet is the standard
Black American diet. A little bit more fat, little bit
more grease, you know, a little bit more Hold.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Though, right there, Doc, we're got to step asund and
get caught up on the traffic and weather. When you
come back, though, I want you to break down the
standard American diet and the standard Black American diet and
why you say that's not good for us, how it
came about in the first place. And also want to
talk to you about if you saw the story about
Cambell soups and they were seeing somebody who worked for
them actually said the chicken in there is not real chicken.
It's manufactured chicken. You know, it's a big brew with

(46:51):
Campbell Soups because people now stop buying the Camel soups
because of that. Now I'm going to get your thoughts
on that. Family YouTube can join us on this Thursday morning.
Reach out to us one hundred and four or five
zero seventy eight seven six. You can speak to doctor
Barok and we'll take your phone calls after the trafficking weather.
The Snaxt and Grand Rising family, thanks so waking up
with us on this Thursday morning, a holiday for some

(47:11):
and something's just another day since an a day of
at work. I guess there's doctor Beroke, Doctor brook is
a Nagropantic doctor and a restaurant toil based in the
DMV discussing food this morning. And you know, if those
are you preparing your food? I know sometimes this is
the time the doctor breo because you know they put
that turkey in the oven, and this is the time
they've got the radio on and listening to us. So

(47:31):
hopefully hopefully they'll listen and maybe learn something as well,
because we mentioned before we left, we're talking about the
taste with the taste and also the fact that I
mentioned that Campbell's soup is also under attack because someone
who worked for them said that the chicken in the
cans wasn't real chicken, but some and I've seen there's
another question I got to ask you. I'll let you

(47:52):
answer all of them together, because i've seen vegetarian or
vegetable soup in cans. Is that a misnoman? How can
something be good for you, nutritious for you if if
it isn't a can in the first place. I'll let
you answer those questions for us.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
Yeah, first off, I think you know when I said
earlier about plant based healthy is important. You know, plant
based on its own, it's probably not the best solution
for us, but plant based healthy is where we should be.
And you know, foods that come out of cans, foods
that are preserved with although they are plant based chemicals

(48:30):
or plant based products, but they're not healthy for the
body or not. You know what I would suggest or
encourage us to do. I think what we're seeing happening
with chemical soup that's been a favorite, you know, in
many people's homes, you know, eating some chicken noodle soup
when you're sick, or eating chicken noodle soup when it's
cold outside. You know, I can remember the days, but

(48:51):
it was it was very It tasted good. All I
remember is kind of salty and oily, so you know,
it appears appealed to our taste buzz in in a
unique way, and it was it was it was tradition,
you know, it's part of a tradition. So I think
it's it's time for us to one requalify what we

(49:13):
consume and also requalify what we consider our tradition and
what tradition do we want to carry forward and in
our communities and our families. I think getting away from
the consumption of that which only tastes good and has
no nutritional benefit needs to be one of our first steps.
You need to get away from it. If it has
no nutritional benefit, then we shouldn't be consumed. If it

(49:35):
has nutritional benefit, but it also is toxic to the body,
then we should get away from it. You know, we shouldn't.
We shouldn't, we shouldn't consume it. And although that that
will appear to be challenging for many of us who
have grown accustomed to eating the way that we eat,
we you know, it's still going to be the necessary
step that we have to take in order that we
survive and in order to.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Doc whether you're on that on that road before they
left for the traffican wet up there the question about
the standard American diet and the standard Black American diet.
I want you to break down those for us because
many of us. You know, we eat it's just like
our religion. Whatever our parents the religion was, that's the
religion we adopt. You say you're a Catholic or your

(50:19):
Muslim or you're a Baptist because your parents do that,
and your parents say this is what you ate. But
sometimes you're come into learning and yourself and if you ah,
that's not cool. There's another way. There's no way that
there's another religion, there's a there's another way to eat food,
and this maybe better for me as a person. So
take us down that road. How do we how do
you come up? You know with the standard American die

(50:40):
and the standard Black American diet.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
Well, the standard American diet was corporate you know driven.
So the corporations created this standard American diet that you
had to have this much protein, this much carbohydrate, this
much vegetable and that that they were the ones who
defined that. And that was stilling a business need more
so than it was on a consumer biological need. And

(51:06):
so we look up today and you know that has evolved,
but it has evolved to support and benefit those businesses
as opposed to benefiting the consumer. And because the United
States government is for sale. Then these big businesses were
able to get into the halls of you know, the politicians,

(51:26):
and the ears of the politicians and the pockets of
the politicians to influence them and encourage them to do
things and say things and put into action into law
those which would benefit those businesses. So that's where the
standard American diet comes from. You know, you go to
other countries and they're eating you know, a wide cross

(51:47):
section of foods that are quite different from what we
eat here. And many times, depending on where you go,
you're not eating a lot of food that comes out
of a can or you know, is in a box
and is preserved with all kinds the chemicals. It's many
times fresh, which is why you find people in other
countries tend to look better, they tend to have more energy,

(52:08):
and they tend to live longer. You know, depending on
where you are, they live longer as long as their
quality of life is good otherwise. And this standard Black
American diet that I spoke of earlier, is that we
take the standard American diet and we've just ratcheted down
a couple more notches to make it worse for us.
So it's more sugar it's more grease, you know, it's

(52:33):
more artificials, you know, and it's real baseline is what
can we do to make this consumer have a good
experience and without any regard for the health of the consumer,
because that's not what they're concerned about. They, you know,
you create this diet for those of us who are
you know who sit down to a comfort food. We

(52:55):
sit down because we want this to taste good. We
have no concern, no entry. Don't tell me about how
bad it is for me. I just wanted to taste good.
That's the standard Black American diet. It is comfort food
at its best, and it has nothing to do or
no concern for how nutritio nutritious it is for us.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Got you eight hundred and four or five zero seventy
eight seventy six? A tweet question for you and tweeters up.
Let me find this tweet. Okay, here's a tweet. Another tweet,
Let me read this one. My white blood cell count
has been below the normal range since I began my
vegan diet. Is this a common effect of falling a

(53:40):
vegan or a vegetarian diet? And the person goes on
and say everything else checks out but I'm going to
see a hematologist to be on the safe side.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
What say, youth Dot, Well, that either means that there
is a problem inside of the body with the production
of white blood cells, or you know, they're they're they're
varying the varying things that could contribute to that circumstance.
You know, the overproduction of white blood cells, will they

(54:08):
know that there's an infection or the body is fighting something.
The underproduction of white blood cells means that your immune
system isn't protecting you sufficiently. So you know, again those
things are impacted by our diet. We always need to
be mindful that over the course of the years and
the year itself, we need to make sure that we're
getting sufficient levels of vitamin D three into our diet.

(54:31):
We need magnesium in our diet so that it'll help
with the absorption of the vitamin D three, and not
all magnesiums of vitamin D three are made equal, so
you want to make sure you're getting a good quality one.
You don't go to some of these, you know, growth
major department or grocery stores. You don't go to the
gas station, you don't go to the corner store to
get your good, healthy quality vitamins. You go to a

(54:52):
healthy food store, you know, like eLife restaurant or there's
some others that have a more comprehensive list of the
supplement that they offer. And so, yeah, you want to
make sure that you're mindful of that and that that's
important as we as we start determining, you know, what
it is that we need to consume in order to
be healthy. And that's that's that's real. The the importance

(55:17):
is understanding that the body is not necessarily born with
a deficiency of any of the chemicals that we're taking
to address the illnesses that we have. Our bodies are
born and naturally going to benefit from the food that
is its most appropriate for us. So eating the eating
a plant based whole food diet is going to be
the best. Eating a food that is void of nutri

(55:42):
void of the preservatives and the artificial flavors, colors, and
preservatives that we consume typically in our food, we should remove.
Eating of food that does not have the oils the
oil content and the poor oil content is going to
also help protect us and cause us to you know,
I say, as a restaurant tour I'm the only restaurant

(56:03):
that I know of where I stand before a body
of people and I say, I'm looking forward to serving
an African American, a black population. However you see yourself
native African American or whatever Native Americans that I could
I produce a food that I took healthy food and
wrapped it inside of souls so that I could attract them.
But what I wanted to do with them once they

(56:23):
got in the door was I wanted them to live longer,
have a better quality of life, look better, feel better,
have more energy, and may love better. And you get
all of that when you eat a healthier plant based
giant as compared to eating you know, the standard standard
American died or the standard Black American diet.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
All right, I thank you for that tweet. Gunnother tweet
for your tweeter says that doctor Brooks restaurant serves up
the best vegan mac and cheese I've ever eaten. So,
Doctor brook this is a testimony from I guess one
of the persons who has been to your restaurant, eLife restaurant.
So do you have that va mac and cheese? Can
you share what's in it? Or is it one of

(57:03):
those guarded secrets.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
Well, we definitely have the plant based mac and cheese
today and we have it every day. And you know, people,
I guess are pretty knowledgeable about seasonings now, so they're
things that you're going to find. And we've got nutritional
yeast that gives your cheesy flavor and the yellow look,
and there's you know, there's garlic, and there's onions, and

(57:27):
there are other spices that we put in our food
to cause it to taste the way that it does.
And the taste profile is really important in the African
American community because sure we eat with our eyes first,
but you know, we afford our customer the wherewdal to
sample the food so they get a chance to sample

(57:47):
it so they know when they get home what they're getting.
And it's really important that you know, food tastes good
in our community. We're not We're not putting raisins in
our potato salad like some folks might find in other communities,
where it will throw off the whole taste of food.
We know that taste is really important. We know our

(58:08):
life is hard, we know things are difficult. We know
that people come to eat, They come to the table
for a relationship that they've had all of their life,
and that relationship is with what they consume. And we
just think that it would be better that if you're
going to consume, you know, macaroni and cheese, let's eat
macaroni and cheese that has better ingredients in it. And

(58:30):
I don't stand before you say that a person should
sit down and eat macaroni and cheese every day. I
wouldn't say that, even our macaroni cheese. I wouldn't say that.
I would say, you know, it's a nice thing to
consume every once in a while. It's nice to know
that those of us who have daily dairy intolerances, you know,
most of us are in the African American community, are
lactose intolerant. That you get a chance to eat something

(58:53):
that you haven't eaten for many years, maybe never have eaten,
and you find out you can eat it and that
tastes pretty good.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Thirteen and a half the top of the out, I guess,
doctor Baruga and the tweets up. As I mentioned this morning,
another tweet question for you, Anthony says, how do you
get someone to gain weight on a plant based diet?

Speaker 4 (59:12):
You work out, you work out and you engage in
weight resistant exercise so that you can build first bone density,
and then on top of the bone denity, you're going
to build up muscle mass because that's what you want
to build up. You don't want to just build up
fat on the body. So that would be what I
encourage the person to do. If you want to gain

(59:33):
weight workout. The body will naturally endymatically respond to what
you're doing by building up your muscles, building up your
bone density so that you can better do what you're
doing without hurting yourself. And you do that in measure,
and you do that over the course of time. You
don't try to do it all in one morning at
the gym. You do that over the course of time.

(59:53):
Maybe get a personal trainer to support you in that
process so that you do more of a comprehensive workout
so you can build up the whole body and you're
not one of those people who walk around with big arms,
big chests and little skinny legs. But yeah, that's how
you do it. That's how you build up your weight
and your body masks well.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
On the flip side, though, I'm trying to think if
I've seen someone who's who's overweight and claimed to be
a vegetarian or vegan.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Have you seen there's a bunch of them. Oh, really,
a bunch of them out that because they're eating the
wrong things and they're eating too much of the wrong things. So, yeah,
if you're eating macaroni and cheese at every meal, if
you're drinking a sugary beverage every every day, all day,
and if you're drinking your your beverage while you're eating
your food, you're just making it even twice as bad.

(01:00:40):
But yeah, you got to be mindful about what you're eating.
You can't just, you know, because it's plant based, just
eat that and think that that's going to be all
you have to do. No, it's more than that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
And it BIG's a question about combination, doctor brew. Can
you help us out with combination? What foods go together
and what foods do not go together?

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
Well, you know, and that's important because you know, we're
taught in school, for those of us who came through
school during a time when they taught us about body systems,
that digestion is really important. That's the first introduction. You know,
your food gets introduced to the body, the body begins
to digest it and come and break it down and

(01:01:20):
so that it can then you know, assimilate it and
absorb it into the body. So when you're mixing foods
that get digested by different parts of the body or
at different rates and speeds, it will affect your digestion
and consumption of that food. So I would suggest that
you don't mix, you know, sugars with proteins. I would

(01:01:43):
suggest that you're mindful that you know proteins and vegetables
that they're just certain combinations, and you can look up
food combination chart to get specifics, but they're going to
be certain things that you don't consume with other You know,
you don't eat fruits with vegetables necessarily, because again, and
it's a different pH it's a different acid, it's a
different part of the body that breaks it down. Your

(01:02:04):
saliva actually begins the breakdown of the food and the
digestion of the food inside of the body. Which is
why we were tard younger that you should chew your
food a certain number of times. It's not just so
that you can break down the bulk of the food
so that it's more of a slurry or it's more
it's more soft and malleable for the stomach. It's also

(01:02:27):
important for the digestive process that the saliva, which has
the enzymes in it, begins the breakdown of the food
in the mouth, and then once it's passed down to
the stomach, that continues.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Yeah, I heard that A cheer your food eighteen times
before you swallow, don't cut a swallow. I remember those days. Listen,
take a short break. We come back though. Tell us
about the snacks. What sort of do you have any
vegetarian snacks?

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
What we do?

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
And also cheat days? Do you think people should have
cheat days when it comes to being a vegetarian. Some
people say I'll do it. I'll do it on Fridays
or Saturdays. I'm gonna have my drink. I'm gonna get busy,
so I'm taking off that day. I'll let you explain
it how that works for us and if it's a
good idea or not. Family, you want to join this conversation.
That guest doctor Baruk, he's an atropathic doctor, is also

(01:03:13):
a restaurant tour. Reach out to us at eight hundred
four or five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll
take your phone calls. Next and Grand Rising family. Thanks
for rolling with us on this Thursday morning, Thanksgiving Day
for some folks. At twenty one minutes after the top
of that with our guests, he's a restaurant tours also
an atropathic doctor's name is doctor Barok. If you're in
the DMV, you're lucky because he's open today those of
you who want to taste these magnificent mac and Jesus,

(01:03:36):
As one of our tweeters said, it is real great
if they'll have that for you today as well. But
doctor Barok, for vegetarians and vegan what do you do
for snacks? Because you know, some please people go to
their homes, they have cookies and cakes and what else?
They have chocolate, you know, and they say chocolate's is
a girl's best friend. For vegetarians though, is Chalcoling the

(01:03:57):
girl's best friend? And what do you do for snacks
instead of all these cookies and cakes and all that
kind of stuff?

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
Yeah, brother Carl, I think cookies and cakes and and
and those those items aren't necessarily snack foods as much
so as they are those comfort those comfort foods that
comfort intervention. Life was hard today. I'm stressed, I'm not
feeling good, you know, or it's that that that food
item that you have for an event. You know, you

(01:04:25):
have cake and ice cream for a party, and it
becomes a tradition or custom that we we consume that way.
So I would I would go back to when we
were children, you know, when we used to eat a
you know, Mom would cut up an apple or cut
up some oranges, or cut up some fruit, and we
would eat fruit, or we would eat some celery or
some carrots and cauliflower. You know, children are on the

(01:04:47):
custom to eating that way.

Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
Nowadays.

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
You know, we had we had our box of raisins
in our and our lunch pale, you know, and those
were some of the snacks that we consume. Now we
consume snacks, snacks that are so full chemicals and so
bad for the body that you know, it's it just
doesn't make any sense. It just works against our real
desire to be here and to be productive and to

(01:05:11):
be self sufficient. It works against that because it's gonna
it's gonna break you down. You know, it's not it's
not healthy, and that should be the first qualifier. Let's
eat healthy. So we're going to eat a snack the
first qualifier is not that it tastes good. The verse
qualifier is not that it's inexpensive or that it's accessible.
The first qualifier needs to be that it's nutritionally beneficial

(01:05:32):
to the body. And once it qualifies there, then at
least you now know that you can consume it. Now
you can go down the list of does it taste good,
can you afford it? And you know all that other stuff.
But on the front end, is it nutritionally beneficial to
the body. If not, then it's it should not even
be an option. It shouldn't even be a consideration. You know,
pull back, push back, you know, move away from that.

(01:05:55):
Make a better decision on behalf of yourself. You don't
put into your vehicle just any old liquid in the
gas tank and expect the vehicle to run right. You
want to put high octane or the best you know
fuel that you can inside of your vehicle, and your
vehicle will run right, it will run strong, and it
will last a long time. And that's the same way

(01:06:15):
for the body. If you put a better fuel in
your body, you're going to live longer and have a
better quality of life, you know, and you know, I
go down the list look better, feel better, have more energy,
and make love better. And all of those things are
important to us at the end of the day. You know,
on the front side, we want something to taste good.
On the backside, we don't want to kill ourselves. So
we just now need to start eating with a mindset

(01:06:38):
of the backside. You know, yeah, we wanted to taste good,
but do we wanted to kill us? No, So let's
not eat that which tastes good that's going to kill us.
Let's eat that which tastes good. That's gonna nourish us
and build up our health.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
All right, for a vegetianna vegan, what you have? What
you know, people are gonna have a punkin pie of
the whole apple pie, ice cream and whooped cream today.
But what do you suggest they should subsitt you that with.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
Well, in America you can get all of that and
it be plant based. So you can get your pumpkin pie,
your peach pie, you know, apple pie, or whatever, you
can get sweet potato pie. All of those things are
now made plant based. So even in our restaurant we
have those those items and their plant based, and you
can get your eggnog, you know, it could be plant

(01:07:25):
based eggnog. You can get all of that experience. So
it's not that you don't get those items that taste
like that and have the same name. You can get them,
but you know, you're making the conscious decision to eat
that which is healthier for you. And of course in
our restaurant, you're making the conscious decision to eat that

(01:07:45):
which not only benefits you, but also benefits your community.
Because we know that our money is power and when
we spend money with an organization or company, a business
or somebody that is a business owner, when you spend
money with them, you give power to them, you know.
So we got to give power to, you know, those

(01:08:05):
institutions that support us and our longevity and our quality
of life. And I would think that eLife Restaurant is
one of the ones at the top of the DC area.
So we're not only concerned about our health and well being,
but we're concerned about the health and well being of
those who are concerned about the health and well being
of us as well.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
All right, twenty six out of the top of another
tweet question, Please ask doctor Baruque his thoughts about Himalayan
black salt. Are you familiar with that doc.

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
I'm familiar with the black salt. I'm familiar with himalay
and pink salt, and I think the mineral content and
solt is where we're benefiting from that. We are deficient,
minerally deficient in America because the soil has been just
stripped and destroyed. And now you know, npkus, nitrogen, ox phosphorus,

(01:09:01):
and potassium are all that's put in the soil because
that's all the soil needs in order to produce something
that looks like broccoli or something that looks like, you know,
a carrot, or kale or collars. That's all the soil
would need in order to produce the vegetable that looks
like it's supposed to look. But as far as the
nutritional benefit of those food items, you know what, your

(01:09:24):
broccoli that you're eating today is not the broccoli that
your grandmother ate. It looks the same. And we all
know about tomatoes. There was a time when tomatoes used
to have a really nice taste and then tomatoes became cardboard.
And that's when they started in using the fish jeans
and other genes into the tomato to increase the shelf life,
which had increased the bottom line of the businesses. You know,

(01:09:47):
we need to be less concerned about their bottom line
and more concerned about our own health and well being.
And so we encourage people to eat food at your
own backyard. But it is it is the again breaking
away from the traditions of America and more so embracing
the old culture. You know, is I think a very
important step for us and eating foods that taste good

(01:10:11):
and eating foods that are good for us.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Is there a direct correlation between the food that we
eat and the illnesses that are pondency in our community.

Speaker 4 (01:10:23):
Yeah, along with the state of mind. So a state
of mind, the quality of the food and how it
impacts your length of life and your quality of life,
there's a direct correlation. And so yeah, you're you're seeing
two communities of people. Like I said, they'll eat the
same diet, but because their state of consciousness and their

(01:10:44):
state of mind is different, their self worth is different,
why they're eating is different, It's going to be a
different outcome for them as compared to you know, those
of us who vibrate at a lower frequency. So yeah,
there definitely is a difference.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
That's real deep what you just said. I'm gonna shore
hope people understand what you say. So I'm going to
ask you to repeat it again and break it down
with real goods so people understand because you know, I
heard what you said, but I'm sure you went over
the hands of a lot of folks what you just said.
Because if you can repeat it, I'd appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
Yeah, the you know what we consume. Two people can
consume the same meal and get two different results. So
depending on your state of consciousness, depending on your motivation
and your self worth, you will get a different benefit
from your food. You know. It's it's you unlock nutrition
and your food differently than a person who doesn't have
those things, who don't who does not make that important

(01:11:38):
to them. So you're going to want to make sure
that you know you're of a right mindset. Why are
you sitting down to eat? Are you sitting down to
eat just because you are you know, lonely? You're sitting
down to eat just because you want something to put
in your mouth to taste good? You know, No, you're
you should be sitting down to eat to nourish your body.
And when that is your motivation, it changes how the

(01:11:59):
food then gets absorbed into the body because you're eating
for nerve. You know that this food has got to
carry you through the day, it's got to carry you
through work, it's got to do whatever it needs to do.
It's going to be different, So our bodies absorbed it
differently as compared to when we're just eating and you know,
eating a bunch of food, especially during these holiday seasons,
we're just eating food that hard managers makes me feel good.

(01:12:21):
I love this time of year because now now I
can eat, you know, some turkey sandwiches, you know, so
we love that turkey sandwich. And I had some things
that we need to be mindful of with regard to
the season and the changes we need to make and
not just fall victim to just what everybody else is doing.
Sure we can eat special, but we don't have to

(01:12:42):
eat to kill ourselves, you know. So there are things
that we need to pull back on right through here.
Then I think it's good. It's good for us to
not consume foods that are filled with chemicals, are filled
with products that don't benefit us. And so I don't
know what our time is like, but I'd like to

(01:13:03):
go over a couple of things that I think we're
gonna have in front of us today that I think
we need to eat less of or not eat at all.
And it will reduce the hospitalizations, that will reduce the
respiratory illnesses, that will reduce the heard events, that will
reduce the headaches, that will reduced the arthritis and the
pain suffering and woe. You know, we can reduce all

(01:13:24):
of that by just you know, consuming different. We need
to reduce the amount of butter and especially margarine that
we consumed and u and that's really key because a
lot of our food are dressings and some of the
other foods that we were We melt more margin and
butter today than probably any other day.

Speaker 5 (01:13:41):
Of the year.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
You know, we need to eat Doctor do's a favorite?
When when you when you're making these these critiques, can
you give us the alternative as well?

Speaker 4 (01:13:51):
Sure? Sure they you know, reduction of butter and margarine.
Sure you can change the same thing with some maybe
some avocado oil and some sea salt, and you know,
you get a taste profile that's similar. But again, you
don't have something that is as bad for you. And

(01:14:11):
candy yams, well you know it's yams with sugar on
it and with marginal butter on it, you know, putting
pulling back on the margin in butter and and maybe
using a natural oil or oil is more beneficial to us.
And you know, olive oil and avocado oil tend to
affect the flavor of the food, but they're a lot

(01:14:31):
better for you than coconut oil. Might be the better
one for the candy yams. It's it's an oil, it's
a medium chain oil, and our body processes it better.
Creamy castle rolls, you know this isn't Those things tend
to clog our our arteries and affect our body's ability
to function as the shoes, as does the mac and cheese,

(01:14:55):
you know, eating you know, four five, six servings of
mac and cheese. Yeah, it tastes good. Yes, the holiday
and you want to, you know, do something nice for yourself.
That's not something nice for yourself. Cut back on the
pies and the ice creams and the cakes because there's
no nutrition of value in sugar. You know, most of
the sugars that are in these products are not going

(01:15:16):
to be beneficial to us. So refined sugar and those
saturated fats that we find in those foods, and if
you're eating it out of a standard grocery store. Then
you're eating partially hydrogenated oil, which is really bad because
it coats the cells of the body and prevents the
insulin from even being able to recognize and attach to

(01:15:37):
the cells, let alone the cells recognize one another because
it's coated with this oily, varnish like substance on it.
So those are some of the things that we want
to you want to pull back from. I would say
you can replace those with you know, maybe like a
stuffed a stuffed squash roasts. And I know that sounds

(01:15:59):
kind of odd, like how do you make that? Well,
you know, that's why you come out to ELI. You'll
get a chance to see some of the things that
we prepare. And you can have collar greens, you know,
we do sometimes the smoky collar greens with olive oil,
and they smell good, they taste good. You don't need
some pork inside of it in order to make it,
you know, smell good and taste good. Green Beans, you know,

(01:16:22):
doing a green bean or even a green bean casserole
without the dairy, of course, is a good look. We
do a mac and cheese, but of course our cheese
is non dairy and it's healthy. It's a lot healthier.
We make our cheese from scratch for our mac and cheese,
so it's not something that we get out of a

(01:16:42):
can or out of a box. We actually make it
every morning from scratch. You want to be careful on
the gravies. Graviies are full of fat, full of oil,
and if you're trying to maintain your weight and trying
to you know, stay healthy during this season, you want
to reduce the burden on your heart. You don't want
to consume a bunch of heavy gravy. And then the
gluten that we consume right through it. We consume so

(01:17:04):
much gluten and we don't know whether specifically you are
having an issue with gluten or whether you're having our
consistent our glyphosate issue. That is the chemical that is
sprayed the on the wheat fields to make it as
a pesticide. But we want to definitely pull back on

(01:17:24):
the gluten. And that's for everybody, but for those of
us who have arthritis or have inflammatory conditions, you definitely
want to pull back on the gluten. So those are
some of the things, some of the things that we
want to avoid and also some of the alternatives that
we can consume in order to you know, still have
an enjoyable day, still be able to hang out with

(01:17:46):
the family, but you know, not kill yourself in the process.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
Gotcha.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
Twenty five away from the top of that, let's go
to Miami. Brother agrees, waiting for us it's online too,
Grand Rising brother agree.

Speaker 4 (01:17:57):
You're on with doctor Baruch, Grand Rising brother Carl and
doctor Baruk. My question, based upon all that you've said
this morning, it seems as though we need to have
our own food pyramid. What did your take on that? Absolutely? Well,
you don't let a man define for you what you
can eat, who has on record and throughout history been

(01:18:20):
working against you. Right, you would define that for yourself.
You would define everything about yourself yourself if otherwise you're
depending upon somebody who doesn't like you to define that
for you. So absolutely, I think we not only need
to define our own food pyramid, create our own food pyramid,
but we also need to grow our own food so

(01:18:42):
we know what's in it. You know, in the United
States of America, money is more important than health. And
you know, again I always remind people I don't know
of any other restauranteur or business owner that is more
concerned about the health and well being of their customer
than I am. I'm concerned. I want my customers to
live a long time. That's a testament to you know

(01:19:04):
what it is. I created this business for when people
are living longer. And if you if you know the
number of people, if you've ever been to eLife restaurant,
you know that. Yeah, there are people that come to
the door they thank me, and I know what they're
thanking me for. They're not thanking me, you know, for
holding the door for them. They're thanking me because had
it not been, they probably wouldn't be.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Oh well, hold that thought right there, brother Grief. You
have a follow up question. I'll let you pose that
as well. We've got a step asid and get caught
up with the latest used traffic and weather in a
different cities. Family, you two can join this conversation with
doctor Barok. Doctor Brooke is a natural panic doctor. It's
also a restaurant tour as he mentioned. You can reach
us at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight
seventy six and we'll take your phone calls next and
Grand Rising family, thanks for waking up with us on

(01:19:47):
this Thursday morning and getting your day started with us.
I guess it is. Doctor Brook is a natural panic doctor.
It's also a restaurant tour. You got questions about what
you should should be eating this man, you need to
pose that question to especially today it's a holiday and
you're probably going with your friends or mom a grandma's
and they're gonna have some food that you may not
want to eat. You know, you could always speak to
doctor Brew if you've got questions, or you can check
if you're in the DMV, you can. It's not buy

(01:20:08):
his restaurant, Eli Restaurant. We'll give you the address before
he leaves. Before we do that, though, remind you coming
up later this morning' wenna say you brother Katy, Brother
Keaty is gonna talk out some health issues as well,
also a project he's working on in Ghana. Tomorrow's Friday,
and we invite you again to join us and free
your mind and all that means is just think for
yourself and join us for our open form Friday program
and promptly at six a m. Eastern time right here

(01:20:29):
in Baltimore on ten ten WLB and also in the
DMV on fourteen fifty w and again, don't wait to
the last minute. We always always it's a bunch of
folks who didn't get a chance because they wait till
the last minute. So we want to hear from you
what's going on in your community, what you think about
some of the discussions we had this week. His brother
grees to with us in Miami. You hang up, you
must have hang up all right? A tweet question for you,

(01:20:51):
doctor Breuke. Tweeter says, a grand rise to doctor Bruke,
can you speak to your best recommendation for the ease
of bloating after eating such as ms we can take
and or baking soda in lemon or lime water and
the like as opposed to over the counter anti anti acids.

Speaker 5 (01:21:10):
Great, great, well.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
Eating and getting indigestion is pretty common now because we
eat a lot of stuff that the body is not
supposed to be consuming, or we eat after we've had
a major antibiotic infusion into our body because we had
an infection somewhere. So we're taking antibiotics for a series
and it kills the living I mean antibiotic against life,

(01:21:36):
so it kills the life force energy, it kills the
enzymes inside of our body. And we have to work
many times for weeks, months, years to restore and sometimes
it never does get restored. The enzymatic activity, the digestive
enzymes inside of our gut all need to be restored.
And you do that with probiotics, and probiotics and nutritional

(01:21:59):
digestive of whole the full spectrum digestive enzymes, you know,
you do that with hydrochloric acid. You want to increase
your hydrochloric acid inside of the body so that you
can help break down your food. And one of the
best ways to build your hydrochloric acid is with salts
ea salt on your food, and you build up that

(01:22:20):
hydrochloric acid so that you can break down more of
your food. You know. We think about salt for the taste,
you know, and but there's also a benefit to the body.
Salt helps with the with the with the breakdown of food.
It also helps with the management of water inside of
the body. And of course it's full of magnesium anytimes,

(01:22:42):
so there are so many different benefits from salt. But yeah,
you want to you want to take a full spectrum
digestive enzyme. You want to not drink while you're eating
because when you drink while you're eating, you dilute the
hydrochloric acid inside the gut and you cannot therefore break
down your food as efficiently as you otherwise could. You
want to be careful of food combining, and yeah, you

(01:23:03):
want to, and you also want to give your body
a chance to digest what you've eaten and not just
add more food on top of the food that you're
you know, eating and the body never gets a break.
So yeah, bloating is one of the defense mechanisms to
keep you alive because you're over indulging.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
And doc you know, today people are going to a
lot of people are going to overeat or just eat
a lot of food just just you know, until they're bursting,
you know, and maybe whether it's good for you or not.
How do you deal with that? Should you work out
right after? Because you know, cause people say this, walk
it off or work it out, but most people gonna
sit and watch the football game. So what do you
say to those folks after you've eaten quite you've done

(01:23:42):
more than you ate, more than you should. What advice
you have for those folks?

Speaker 4 (01:23:48):
First off, I would say cut out something that you
otherwise would have eaten, but you know it is not
good for you. So that's one way of stepping it up.
I'm not saying just completely change everything that you're going
to eat today. If you can do that, that's going
to be better for you. But many of us don't
have that discipline. So just cut out one thing, you know,
cut out, cut out the ham, cut out the pork,

(01:24:08):
you know, cut out, you know, at least one thing
that you know is bad for you that you can survive.
And then cut down on your portion sizes. You know
you many times you make your plate. Now the holiday
plates tend to be stacked. Right, The more food the better, No,
not not really. Yeah, it might be the better for
your tongue, but it's really worse. You know, once it

(01:24:30):
gets to the back of your mouth, your benefit of
that food has ended. It's now a detriment to you.
So I would suggest that you reduce your quantity and
just chew your food a little more. You don't have
to chew twice and swallow anymore, not chew to it
like you said eighteen thirty times. And you know you
chew it that much, you get a chance to enjoy

(01:24:51):
the taste and the texture and the hands that went
in to prepare the food. You know, you get excited
about that. This isn't a race to see how much
food that you can and consume.

Speaker 5 (01:25:01):
This is really a.

Speaker 4 (01:25:04):
Day for us to eat and think about, you know, again,
what we're all thankful for. And food is one of
the things that we should be thankful for. So we
should eat. We should eat it, we should enjoy it,
we should experience it. And you know, there are ways
to do that without gouging ourselves. But when you do, sure,
going out for a walk that'll help burn it, or

(01:25:24):
going to the gym and burning the fat and burning
the food, burning the calories. Sure, there's benefit to that,
but also consuming less calories as benefit to that. Don't
drink while you're eating, please, family, and don't drink drink
a bunch of sugary beverages because sugar calories, excuse me,
liquid calories have to be burned one calorie a time,

(01:25:44):
just at a time, just like you know, eating a
piece of cake, and it tends to be a lot
more and they are a lot more dense calories inside
of a sweet beverage than it is in a piece
of cake or a cookie or something like that some
corn bread.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
You mentioned that you at e Life. You guys, you
have sweets, I call them sweets, but you have what
we call sweets natural potato pies, punk and buy and
all that kind of good stuff. But you have that
in drinks as well.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
Yeah, we have a whole line of natural drinks that
we make in house right there, So we know the
ingredients in them, we know that they're good. In fact,
we're just we're transitioning and always transitioning our offerings to
make them healthier. And one of them. You know, many
of us now are on the idea of eating sea
mass beverages, and we have found that one of the

(01:26:37):
beverages in most sea moss is is not good for you.
It's really bad for you, and we decided we would
step up. It's going to affect the cost of our
sea mass, but it's okay. And you know, I think
people are making the decision to eat this or consume this,
drink it because they want the benefit of it. So
we don't want to give people benefit and meanwhile hurting
them at the same time. So we do make all

(01:26:59):
of most of our beverages we make in house. Some
we do bring from outside and we do have cakes
and cookies and ice cream. You know, they are better
for you. But this again isn't the reason why we
eat this is this is one way that we can,
we call it treat ourselves. Well, it's really not necessarily
a treat for anything other than the tongue. So we

(01:27:20):
treat the tongue, but the rest of the body does
have to pay a price for you, you know, having
that need and satisfying it. But also, of course we've
got for today. We've got the whole holiday meal, brother,
brother Karl, We've got your you know, your turkey. Yeah,
and this is gonna sound strange, so let me first
on the front side say this is all plant based,

(01:27:41):
all derived from fruits, nuts, and vegetables. But it's going
to sound like what you would typically get at your
at your holiday meal, you know, at a family member's house.
So we have your turkey, we have the chicken, we
have the hand, we have the we have the cranberriers,
we have the dressing, we have the stuffing, we have
you know, we got all of that. We got all

(01:28:01):
of that for you today. But it's all plant based.
It's all healthier for you. But don't over do it.
Don't over and doge. You don't eat it, enjoy you
through savor the flavor. You know, don't just try to
gobble as much down as you can. There's no real
benefit in that, you know, you just overtax the digestive system.
Now you're sitting on the couch and you can barely

(01:28:21):
get up, you can barely breathe, and you're going through
all of that. You know, do something good for yourself.
Don't over indulge today.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
All right, another tweet question for you at seven minutes
away from the top tweets is Grand rising to you
and your guest to ask doctor Baruk what advice does
he have for rice? Rice is a major dish for
dish for Oriental people, but can be bad for other races.
It may be because of this group's preparation of it.
What does he say about white rice? Thanks, that's the.

Speaker 4 (01:28:53):
Question, don great, So I would say califlower rice is
my solution. Let's consume the cauliflower rice we can. You know,
brown rice is okay in that it has more of
the nutritional profiles still with it. You know, Uncle Ben's
needs to be thrown out. Uncle Ben's white rice is

(01:29:14):
not beneficial to us. And sometimes your your your brown
rice is really white rice with something added to it
just to make it darker. It isn't, you know, it
isn't what you think. So when you go and you
you're ordering from some line where they're making a special
meal for you, and you say, give me the brown rice,
it's not. It might just be white rice with some

(01:29:34):
soy sauce on it, you know, So it isn't. It
isn't what you think. Many times we need to cut
back on the amount of rice that we consume. It
is a carbohydrate, it is.

Speaker 5 (01:29:43):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:29:44):
Again, we can we can overdo it, and we they
are over therefore overwhelmed the pancreas, and and we're struggling
to break all of this down and to properly distribute
the sugar to the cells of the body. And and
then we find ourselves insulin you know, deficient and or
resistant rather and you know, they call that at the

(01:30:05):
end of the day, they call that diabetes, when when
in fact, we've just we've done so much carbohydrate that
our bodies are just overwhelmed. It's like, you know, it
takes so much more of a thing in order to
process what we're overwhelmed by it. So the body becomes
overwhelmed and therefore it produces more insolent and insolent as

(01:30:26):
the fat hormone, and we find ourselves becoming overweight and
not properly digesting our food and not benefiting from our food.
So yeah, I would pull back on the rice. I
pull back on the on the noodles and the mac
and cheese. Don't need as much of it. Eat some
of it, Yeah, enjoy yourself, But it just pulled back
on it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
We're coming up on a breakway. I check the traffic
and whale when we come out, Well, what about yams
and carriats? Because doctor Sabey said that your cart was
made in the lab in Holland. The Dutch made carrits,
and he wasn't a big fan of carrots. And there's
all kinds of catch right, I did you know they've
got purple cows, white carrots. We just know the orange
couch and they say it's good for your eyesight. But
when we come back, can you address those issues for us?

(01:31:08):
And what kind of yams we should be eating today?
Or what kind of sweet potatoes is still on your list?
Or or if not, what are you replacing with these
are the things that are going to be on the
list when folks go to Grandma's house today or having
the big cookout for Thanksgiving. Family, you got a question
for doctor Brook about the meal or what you should
eat or what you can or should eat or shouldn't

(01:31:29):
what's more nutritious for you? Reach out to us at
eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight seventy
six were ticket phone calls after the trafficking weather that's
next a grand rising family. Thanks, thanks for waking up
with us. Thanks for staying with us on this Thursday
morning or holiday for sing It's just another day for others.
Our guest right now is doctor Brooke. Doctor Brook is
a naturopathic doctor. He's also a restaurant tour If you're

(01:31:50):
in the DMV, you're in luck because he's going to
be open to day you want you want to eat healthy,
it's a place you need to stop. But before we
left for the break and we got brother keaty on deck,
we get to him momentarily for the traffic updates at
Doctor Berger asked you about sweet potatoes, yams and carrots,
and I mentioned that doctor doctor Sabie wasn't a big
fan of carrots. He says it was. It's a hybrid.

(01:32:10):
It was manufactured in the in the lab by the Dutch.
They did this in Holland. And then he told me
there were different colors. And I found out there were
different colored carrots. They were not all orange. You've got
some purple or almost black ones, and you got white
ones as well. So the question is, and the question
he posed to the audience of that day, which one
do you think is the best? So I'm going to
ask you though your thoughts about the carrots, also about

(01:32:31):
sweet potatoes, because you know, folks got that on the
menu for today, and just yams as well.

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
Right well, As far as modification of food, I don't
think there's much that hasn't been touched. As we look
at what we're eating today, there are no farmers that
weren't engaging in some level of genetic modification so that
their crops could be more more ust, robust, so that
they could produce more so that it could have a

(01:32:57):
better shelf life, you know, so it could be tastier
for their consumer. That's just that's the that's capitalism. And
so with regard to doctor Savie's instruction on what not
to eat and what to eat. I think it's a progression.
If you're eating, you know, if you're eating from the
standard fast food restaurant as a rule today, then step up,

(01:33:20):
you know, don't don't don't eat to begin to step
up and transition out of that. If you've gotten to
a level of consumption where carrots and sweet potatoes are
the worst things that you're consuming, then just step up
eliminate those. But most of us, the carrots and sweet
potatoes that we're eating may be one of the healthier
things that we're consuming over the course of the day,

(01:33:40):
especially on a day like today, So you know, we
take that out, but we still eat the lemon merangue pie.
It's yeah, that that won't compute. The body won't understand
that and it will, let you know, I would, So
I agree with doctor Savee Farbia for me to to
to argue against any other points that he brought up,
but just dealing with the reality of where we are.

(01:34:03):
You know, not everybody's prepared to go to doctor SABEI
diet today, especially on a day like today, So you know,
we we do the best that we can. We upgrade
as we go along, we step it up and we
make things better for ourselves. The more we step up,
the better we go we get as far as outcomes,
we get a better outcome when we step up and

(01:34:24):
we consume a healthier diet. So that's.

Speaker 1 (01:34:29):
Yeah, yeah. What about the folks that they go vegetarian
for bad a month and they go back in the
meat for a month and they go back and even
and they just flip flopped? Is that does that do
damage to their body?

Speaker 4 (01:34:42):
Anything good is going to be good, brother Carl. So
if you eat vegetarian for a month and then you stop,
you've added years to your life, or minutes to your life,
or seconds to your life.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
What have you.

Speaker 4 (01:34:51):
You've added those because you did what the body would
rather you do. And but when you when you go
back to eating the and a poor diet, sure the
body gets overwhelmed and inundated. And it may not be
the best thing. It wasn't the best thing to keep
up with it. And it may be that the body's
defenses have been lowered because now they've got this new

(01:35:12):
expectation as it relates to what you're going to consume.
And yes, it's maybe not the best thing.

Speaker 5 (01:35:19):
To go back.

Speaker 4 (01:35:20):
It is always the best thing to go forward. So
if you can just go forward and keep going forward,
you're going to get really good results. You'll live longer again,
have a better quality of life. And who doesn't want that, right?
You know, there was a time, brother, car, when we
used to get old and die. Now in our community
we get sick and die. It's very rare that you
find that somebody gets old and die. They normally get

(01:35:40):
sick and die. And we have to change that. And
how we change that is by changing what we consume,
changing how we live, and reducing our stress level.

Speaker 1 (01:35:51):
So true five with a south down beforeward. Let you
go for the folks who want to eat healthy today,
or they want to just pick up some of the
dishes to take to grandma's household. They don't have to
eat that other stuff. Where's the restaurant? And do you
deliver and give us the phone number and all the
good stuff done?

Speaker 4 (01:36:12):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So we're located again. It's eLife Restaurant.
We've been in business for thirty years. Brother, We're not
new to this. We're true to this. You know, we're
not a gimmick. We were here before, long before a
lot of these places were doing anything like this, and
we don't serve you know, plant based, healthy food right
alongside some food that is poisoned. So it's important that

(01:36:33):
you recognize that relationship. You know, Yeah, you can go
to places that have vegan or plant based options, but
if they're also serving you poison in the same location,
you know their agendas mixed. You want to go to
a place, you want to get power, to an institution
that helps and builds your community. So where again we're
located at that's again eLife Restaurant located nine zero three

(01:36:54):
three Central Avenue, Capitol Heights, Maryland, and our phone number
is three zero one three two four sixty nine hundred.
Again three zero one three two four sixty nine hundred.
You can dial Extension twelve if you want to get
to the front of the house. If you want to
get to me, I'm Extension fourteen. And for those of

(01:37:14):
you who might want to get into better health and
live longer and have a better quality of life, please
give me a call. I will help you along that road.
We will help support you. And yes we are doing
the holiday meal today, but we do a healthy meal
every day every day. You can get a healthy meal
at the restaurant. Again. We've been doing it for thirty years.
We're really concerned about the health and well being of

(01:37:37):
our community and we're very thankful to be able to
speak about what we do and what we're passionate about
here on your show, Brother Carl, I appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (01:37:45):
We look forward to hold on doctor Brooke before you go.
A late tweet for you. So I'm trying to help
some folks here this morning. It's a grand rising, Doctor Brooke,
up of higher enzymes good to take after overeating. What
are the enzymes you recommend for that?

Speaker 4 (01:38:02):
So the enzymes that you want to take are going
to be a full spectrum digestive enzymes, pat pain or
proprire enzymes will not be sufficient to help break down
the foods that we're consuming today. Today, the food profile
is so broad and wide and it can be so
deep that we really need to get what is called
a full spectrum digestive enzyme. It's going to be a

(01:38:24):
lot more expensive than your eight dollars pyre enzyme, but
it's going to do the job. It's going to break
down everything that you're consuming. It's going to help your
body break down everything that you're consuming. And yes, you
don't want to become dependent on digestive enzymes to break
down your food, but you also don't want to every
time you eat be bloated. So you help build up

(01:38:45):
the enzymes by increasing your again your sea salt intake,
you can increase your betain and there are a couple
of other things that you do in order to help
support the body. But all of that I can do.
As a matter of fact, we want to invite everybody
who wants to get healthier give me a call. I'm
at Extension fourteen so that you can get healthier. I'll

(01:39:06):
give you a health consultation and give you suggested supplemental
lifestyle changes that you need to make so that you
can get healthier. Who wants to live the rest of
their life addicted or having to take pharmaceutical drugs just
to stay alive. That's that's not right, that's not healthy,
all right?

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
And that phone number again.

Speaker 4 (01:39:25):
The phone number for us is three zero one three
two four sixty nine hundred, and the front of the
house is Extension twelve. To get to me is Extension
fourteen again, three zero one three two four sixty nine hundred,
where e Life Restaurant, been in the business for thirty
years of helping our community live longer, have a better

(01:39:45):
quality of life, look better, feel better, have more energy,
and make love better with only one.

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
And next week a brother question is going to be there? Right,
that's a.

Speaker 4 (01:39:56):
Place he's coming in town. Yeah, that's always a good day,
you know, coming into down to talk about the history
of some of these religion, these religious experiences this Christmas
holiday season that we're going into. What's the origin of
it and what part of it we should engage and
partake in, and what part of it is is anti
our community?

Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
All right? Is that Friday shadows and what they are today?

Speaker 4 (01:40:21):
December the sixth, thank you, that's the Saturday, December the sixth.
You can get you know, more information on our website
or social media and event Bright has has all that information. Again,
we have our brother here at least twice a year
and he always packs the house. He's always respected and
highly regarded and uh, you know, he's a good brother.
He's he's our brother. He really cares about our community.

(01:40:44):
We care about him.

Speaker 1 (01:40:45):
And I always tell you whenever our scholars come to town,
anytime that you're in make sure you go out and
see him. If once they leave us go Wow. I
wish I could say doctor Welson or Neelie Fuller, or
think Gregory or doctor Claw as well DoD Aniston Willis.
But those who have passed down and made their transition.
So please please go out and see brother Quasi next
week Again, doctor Brooke, thank you, Thank you for what

(01:41:07):
you do. Thank you for the people that you bring
in town. Thank you for the food that you provide
for our family as well.

Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
Thank you, brother, have a great day, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:41:15):
Family eleven after the top of the let's switch over
to the now, brother Katy Grand Rising, Brother Keaty.

Speaker 7 (01:41:21):
Grand Rising, to you, my dear brother Carl Nelson. Wow,
what a wonderful conversation you just had with one of
our favorite scholars, doctor Barok.

Speaker 4 (01:41:31):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:41:32):
Yeah, Doctor Barok is a gem. You know, if you've
got a place for the folks in the DMV and Baltimore,
you could roll down and come and get some of
that grub, get some of the food that's nutritious, that's
healthy for you, you know. But you know, many of
the part of the problem is, brother Keaty, we don't
know what's healthy for us. Again, with the discussion we
had with doctor Brooke. We eat the food because that's

(01:41:52):
what our parents ate. It's just like the religion. If
our parents are were Baptists, we're Baptists. They were Muslim,
we're Muslim. You know, if the Joe was witten with
Joe's witness, But at some point you learned that, why,
there's another way of doing things, another way of appreciating things,
and you take a look at it. So you've got
to have an open mind, your thoughts.

Speaker 7 (01:42:11):
Yeah, in so many ways we have been Stockholm syndromed.
I'm sure you recognize that the Stockholm syndrome, when the
prisoner comes to identify with the captor, eventually their morals
become corrupted, the culture becomes corrupted, and ultimately we become corrupted.

(01:42:31):
The thing we have to realize now is that this
corruption has reached such a level that we can no
longer survive it. So the earlier in our life that
we can detach from the corruption, the earlier we can,
the longer we can expect to live. And so we're
going to do the best we can today to tell

(01:42:52):
people about the techniques that are necessary on the micro
biology level that will allow us to extend our life
expectancy by at least ten to fifteen years just through
one word autophagy.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
Yeah, what is that, Bibi kini?

Speaker 7 (01:43:13):
Autoplogy? What is autopathy? How is this directly related to
the extension of life? Autoplogy is a fundamental mediator in
many validated anti aging strategies, and preventing this age related
decline is a promising avenue for healthy life extension. And

(01:43:36):
when we find out all of the many ways that
autoplogy works in our bodies, we can start to understand
why the research of doctor Savy was so important. Why
virtually every researcher who's out here pointing us in the
right direction, helping us to help ourselves. On the cellular level,
almost all of these techniques we find increase autopogy. So

(01:44:01):
what is autopogy. It's translates to self eating. Auto means
self bogi is a Greek word in points as to eating,
and so it's basically the body gets rid of old
sinescent or dying off cells and materials, and your body

(01:44:22):
basically scavenges them and then replaces them.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
Well, what are the links between fasting and activating autopogy
and other philological stresses. What are those links?

Speaker 7 (01:44:35):
Yeah, there are so so many links and we can
talk about that. We will be talking about that extensively today.
And these are all scientifically supported. That's a very very
important point. So when we talking about autoplogy and other
physiological stressors and fasting, that's a stressor. You can do

(01:44:59):
various types of fast, but the water fast for three
days plus is one of the most direct routes to
extending your life. Turning on Autopogi is actually turned on
in the second day of your fast, and if you
can do three day fast at least once a year,
you have activated autopothy. Do this through this process, there's exercise,

(01:45:22):
caloric restriction, and intermittent fasting. So I have done the
best I can to put all of these in one
master list, and by the end of today's show, we're
going to ask the people to get a pen and
paper and take down as many of these as they
possibly can.

Speaker 1 (01:45:40):
All right, that's what we're trying to do. I have
a better life for all of us, and we started
that with.

Speaker 7 (01:45:44):
What we I'm having a hard time hearing you right now.
It's just I'm trying to push up the volume on
my phone to the best of my ability.

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
All right, Kevin, see if you can hook that up
for us. Sixteen after that, Topica, I would come up
on a break real so we want come back.

Speaker 3 (01:45:58):
Then.

Speaker 1 (01:45:58):
I want you to give us some some history, Brother Keaty.
Brother Keaty is a multi talented researcher. He's also a chef.
He's also a musician. He's also working on projects on
the continent. We're going to talk about some of those
things as well. And you can reach him really easy.
All you got to do is dial us up at
eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six.

(01:46:19):
And Brother Katy, I want you to tell us about
the history of this word, the word that I just
heard for the first time. I'm on Toopigie and I'm
sure many people just hear it for the first time
as well. Family. Again, the number to calls Brother Keaty
is eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six,
and we'll take all your phone calls next and Grand
Rising family, thanks for rolling with us on this Thursday morning.
I guess is Brother Keaty, the multi talented researcher, Brother Keaty,

(01:46:42):
Brother Keaty discussing a new word. Is we've heard a tophagy,
and Mike pronounci correctly. First of all, brother Keaty, for
our listeners, can you spell it? And tell us who?
Can you tell us? The person who came up with
this process identified him first.

Speaker 7 (01:47:00):
It is autopho g autophag meaning auto. A ut O
is of course the root of that meaning self, and
the root is phaegen, which is p h a g
e i n. But actually when we put through two
words together, it's a U t O p h.

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
A g y.

Speaker 7 (01:47:21):
Auto fazzy or autophase is actually how it pronounced means
to eat. Thus autophagi denotes self eating. This concept emerged
in the nineteen sixties when actually the concept of autopage
has been around for quite some time, when researchers first

(01:47:42):
observed that the cell could destroy its own contents by
enclosing it in membranes, forming sac like vesicles that were
then transforded to a part of our cell called the lysosome,
which degrades old components and then eliminates some of those
components and then reabsorb some of those components. Then in

(01:48:05):
nineteen in twenty sixteen, the Nobel Prize in Physiology or
Medicine went to doctor Yoshinori O Sumi. He was a
novel laureate who discovered and eluciated the mechanisms underlying autophagi,
and so a fundamental process for degrading and recycling cellular

(01:48:27):
components has now been identified. There's been a lot of
research that has built on top of doctor Osumi's Nobel
Prize winning studies, and now we are at the point
where we're listing all of the known methods that increases
our bodies cellular process that we know as autophagi. All right, Actually,

(01:48:56):
I keep pronouncing it different ways myself because it was
a new word to me not so long ago, Carl.
But now that I understand what this means, everything that
we are doing that increases life expectancy, increases health on
the cellular level. Literally everything we can find is linked

(01:49:16):
to autoplogy.

Speaker 1 (01:49:20):
Having said that, though, let's break it down a little
bit more for our listeners. You know, what are some
of the basic things that people can do to turn
on this process.

Speaker 7 (01:49:29):
That's very very important. A number of different interventions including
caloric restriction, fasting, exercise, breathing techniques, and even drinking water,
sleep hygiene. We're going to listen to number of them
that do help preserve autoposy as we age and it

(01:49:50):
becomes critical for those of us who are seniors. We
want to preserve not just our life, we want to
preserve our healthy life span. But we're going to have
to turn these things on as early as we possibly can.
And once we turn them on as strict as we
can adhere to these processes and rituals rights that we do,

(01:50:14):
the better we're going to be our wonderful healthy outcome. Carl,
you and I are brothers who are elders now, and
we want to do the best we can to preserve
our cognitive functioning, our health, our immune system and everything else. Therefore,
as I have been introduced to this idea of our toplogy,

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I am doing the absolute best I can to not
only do them as strictly as I can, but I'm
constantly discovering new ways of implementing.

Speaker 5 (01:50:45):
This in my life.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
All right. Twenty four af the top of our Family
with Brother Katy. Brother Keaty is as a researcher, a
multi talent researcher. He's also a chef. He's got a
bunch of books he's written. A brother Keaty is also
a musician. And by the way, let me just share
this real quick. I know you don't want me to
talk about all the time, but brother Creedy broke a
story and when we're in LA kinds of perimented with

(01:51:08):
with with They were experienting on black and brown children
and they were trying to keep it quiet, and brother
Keaty came to us with the story. We broke the story,
and then everybody, the other mainstream media they started falling
through and found out it was true. They were doing
research on quote unquote black and brown children kinds of
permamente in l A. So, brother Keaty, is what is

(01:51:29):
the real deal? Brother Keaty, can you explain some of
the elements in this in this new word that we've
learned this morning? You know, I'm not even gonna try
and pronounce it, but can you atophogy? So can you
break down some of the elements that are in there
that that will help us to live a longer and
more and more beautiful life.

Speaker 7 (01:51:51):
Definitely, we're going to take them piece by piece, and
just so on that Kaiser permanent take note. I want
people to understand what this collaboration is, part partnership between
Brother Carl and myself and there were others in the community.
Brother Tabiiti was very very helpful. What it did produce
was we were able to expose this corporation abusing our

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people as a mass. And therefore I want you to
keep up with Brother Carl, and whenever I'm with Carl,
we are going to be again on the front line.
And quite simply, we don't want to leave any of
our families, any of our people behind. So in so
far as these are topogy.

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):
Well forgot let me just say that. And I'm I
said that to the audience because someone asked me once.
I tell him we broke a lot of stories when
we're in LA and I completely forgot about mentioning that
because it was just so many. But when I had
you on the guest, I have done said, oh, yeah,
that happened, because it was so frequently that whatever happened
we did in the black community in LA, they always

(01:52:55):
come to us first, including the rise, including the that
what with the drugs in our community. But I just
wanted to mention that. I just want to thank you
for that because if we broke that store, but we
broke the store because of you give us that information.

Speaker 7 (01:53:08):
But go ahead, and we are very grateful. So let's
talk about these processes. I have a list of twenty.
I don't think we'll be able to get through all
of them. But one of the ways that I implement
in my life, and I've been doing this for several years,
is intermittent fasting. One of the most well studied and

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effective methods to activate autopogy. We knew it activated longevity,
now we know it's related to autopogy. So in eighteen
let's say you have a sixteen to eight intermittent fasting
plan or an eighteen six intermittent fasting plan, which is
what I consume.

Speaker 5 (01:53:48):
It's where we're.

Speaker 7 (01:53:48):
Fasting for eighteen hours or sixteen hours and then consuming
all meals within this six to eight hour window has
been shown to trigger autopothy. Fasting periods of twelve to
sixteen hours are sufficient to initiate the process without the
risks associated with prolonged fasting. So this creates a state

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where the body has no immediate access to glucose, forcing
cells to recycle internal materials internal proteins for energy, and
we can understand Endromittent fasting is also going to be
a very good technique for combating hyper glycemia, meaning too

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much blood sugar, and therefore allows us to remain insulin sensitive.
So there's less of a chance, much less of a
chance that our old age will include diabetes.

Speaker 1 (01:54:47):
Wow. Hold up, all right there twenty eight after the
top there with brother keaty. If you stop eating, say
at six and at the in the evening, and you
don't eat again til maybe eight nine ten the next day,
is that considered a minute fasting.

Speaker 7 (01:55:02):
Yes, that would be from six until eight nine ten
in the morning. That would be about a sixteen eight
fasting period. And that's a good one. And so far
as myself, I start eating at twelve noon every day
and I stop eating at six, so that's an eighteen
six window and that's wonderfully good for me. It helps

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me control my weight, insulin sensitivity. Everything that we know
is positive. That is autophogy.

Speaker 1 (01:55:35):
So when you break that fast, are you supposed to
do something, eat something special, use or have a special meal,
or it could just be any kind of meal.

Speaker 7 (01:55:44):
It can be any kind of meal. But we don't
want to break any fast at all. By eating the
worst food. So normally I will break my intermittent fast,
my eighteen six hour fast, I will break it by
eating chia pudding, which I have recently incorporated into my diet.

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Chia pudding every morning helps me maintain my weight five pounds,
about three to five pounds less than when I weighed
at age twenty five, Carl today I weigh I loved
weighing one hundred and forty five, which is when I
weighed at twenty five years old. But now my weight
is about one hundred and forty one and a half pounds,

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and I love it, love it, love it. You know,
I get my pushups in and all of that, and
it's just a miracle.

Speaker 5 (01:56:34):
Part of that.

Speaker 1 (01:56:35):
I got to ask you this, though, brother Katie. The
folks when they look at you haven't seen it for
a while that you lost all this weight. They go, wow,
what's wrong? Do they think that you probably sick of something?
Got some's on the illness? So what do they say?

Speaker 7 (01:56:50):
No, they don't say that. In fact, I have that
v shape that we love having when we're much younger.
And you know, I'm not a big bone guy. I'm
not a big tall guy or whatever. So I do
maintain the weight very well. If I do drop below
that to one forty or under one forty, people might

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look at me and say, what's happening over here? But
I do the best I can to regulate it. And
on the days when I'm not pulling my weight down
because the chia pulling pulls my weight down and chief
putting is one of the healthiest foods we could ever
eat full of Omega three fatty acids. But on the
days and I'm not doing that, I have my oat meal.
Oat meal has cinnamon, ginger raisins, walnuts, coconut oil. My

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oat meal is very much a very healthy start to
my day. So you can start your day with whatever
you choose to eat. But I choose to live completely
within this living super food lifestyle.

Speaker 1 (01:57:53):
All right, twenty nine minutes away from the top down
with Brother Keitty. As I mentioned that Brother Ketty is
a talented researcher. Welso we're going to talk about there's
got some programs going taking place in Ghana. He wants
to share with us, Fami Gunny questions about Africa. For
questions about this new word that we learned this morning, autography.
I hope, I'm saying correctly that you could reach us
at eight.

Speaker 7 (01:58:12):
It's auto fagi.

Speaker 1 (01:58:15):
Auto spell it so the listener's kinna can probably get
a better grasp of it. First, brother, Katy, Yeah, I do.

Speaker 7 (01:58:23):
Spell it so that people can look it up using
a good search engine. A U T O P H
A G HY. That's not too difficult.

Speaker 1 (01:58:35):
And you said we can turn on this process ourselves
by doing it, and you mentioned intimated fashion. What are
the others?

Speaker 7 (01:58:42):
We let's just go through the top five. Intermittent fasting,
extended fasting meaning you're not eating at all for twenty
four hours or longer. Now, there are two types of fast.
There's the water fast, which autopogy turns on the in
the second half of the day, So if we keep
that up for three days, we're getting like six times

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or five times the benefit of autopogy. And then there
is the dry fast, which many Muslims do during Ramadan.
If you don't drink any water, a twenty four hour
fast gives you the same benefits of about three day
water fast. So then there is the number three ketogenic diet,

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meaning a diet that turns on ketosis, which is a
metabolic system for consuming fat as your primary energy source.
Now ketosis naturally turns on and after the second half
of your three day water fast, there is caloric restriction.

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Restricting your daily caloric intake by twenty to thirty percent
has been shown to activate autoplogy without requiring prolonged fasting periods.
This mimics the effects of fasting by signaling nutrient scarcity
to cells, prompting them to initiate recycling processes. Now, what

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we do find is almost all of these techniques for
turning on our topicsy do involve creating stresses within the bodies.
The stresses that say I'm not getting enough food then
turns on these processes. The first of which is, well,
just could consume the crap that's in your blood in
your body and then our body does that. So Number

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five low protein diet or protein cycling temporary temporarily reducing
protein intake, especially fifteen to twenty grams per day on
designated days, can trigger autopogy by signaling amino acid scarcity.
The strategy known as protein fasting may offer benefits similar

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to fasting without the full deprivation. So those are the
first five of the twenty techniques that I put in
my study recently, and I think this is awesome. I'm
living a Carl. I'm enjoying a Carl. We want to
bring more people into this camp.

Speaker 1 (02:01:10):
It sounds like you really are enjoying it. Twenty six
away from the top of you talk about caloric intake, though,
how does one gauge that? How do we know how
many calories we're taking it? You know, if you make
you make a meal or eating something, how do you
know how many calories are in each portion of what's
on your plate?

Speaker 7 (02:01:29):
Yeah, that's a good question. We need to go back
to and learn to rely on good old fashioned intuition.
Our gut can tell us when we're eating enough or
too much. But most of us, especially today, is a
day where it's going to be absurdly emphasized. Most of

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us are putting way too much on our plate. When
we go and look at other cultures, such as in
the Blue Zones the book The Blue Zones learn the
lessons obliviy longer from the people who live the longest.
They identify the people of Okay knowwled Japan is the
longest living people on the planet. Also, Sardinia in Italy
another place where people lived long, and what they find

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is their proportion size was much much less than what
we're eating in the United States. If we can eat
just enough to give our body all the energy we
want to do and then cut it right there, we're
going to be enjoying a long life. Longevity is a
beautiful thing. So we're going to turn back on our

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natural process of intuition when it comes to eating food.
I know I love to eat, and yesterday I ate
a lot. But at the same time, I have all
of these techniques that allow me to enjoy my longevity,
and I'm going to make three or four bowel movements

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during the day. It's going to balance everything out inside
my So I encourage people learn about food, study food,
do everything you can to put your body in a
position to live long, love strong, and be prosperous.

Speaker 1 (02:03:11):
All Right, we're coming up on a break, so it
will come back. Tell us if one we can, can
we overdo some of these processes that you just mentioned,
And if so, it is is it going to be
detrimental to our health? Family, you just join us. We
are in a conversation with brother Keaty. Brother Keaty's a
talented researcher. We're going to talk about Africa right now,
we're talking about health. You got a health question, reach
out to us an eight hundred and four five zero

(02:03:33):
seventy eight seventy six or twenty three minutes away from
the top there, I will take your phone calls next
and Grand Rising family, thank you for staying with us
on this Thursday morning. But I guess the brother Katy,
brother Kety, as I mentioned, is a multi talented researcher
this morning and sharing us about autoversy. It's and this
is this is actually discovered by a Nobel Prize winning
Japanese scientists who came up with this, and brother Keaty

(02:03:55):
is breaking it down for the family so we can
understand this. So some of the elements, as you already mentioned,
Brother Katie, can we overdo this process and if so,
can that be detrimental to our health?

Speaker 7 (02:04:08):
Yes, and that people need to understand that clearly number
of these processes do all and nearly all of them
require stressing the body. And this tricks, if we could
say the word, tricks the chromosomes or the nucleus in
our cells into reacting and responding as if there's a

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threat to the body, such as prolonged fasting, the threat
is caloric restriction, or the threat is starvation, and so
the body first turns on the survival mechanisms that it
knows about, such as if we're exposed to cold temperatures,
the body turns on sirve twin circuits in our chromosomes

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that activate longevity. If the body is exposed to heat
and sonnets or something like that, the body turns on
processes that do contribute to longevity. So we have to
operate within a safety zone. And for most of us,
that safety zone is going to be broad enough, wide
enough that we can operate them. But the question is

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can these things become dangerous? We can't we overdo some
of them. The answer is definitely yes. So you have
to be very alert, very concerned about what you do.
And I am here to be offer a consultancy for
anyone turning on these processes of outopogy. But quite simply,

(02:05:36):
it is well well worth the benefit of the outcome.
It not only extended longevity, but more important, extended health span.
You're living healthier years, your aid in your advanced age.

Speaker 1 (02:05:52):
All right, sixteen away from that tough brother, Keaty though
that the scientists who won the Nobel Prize for this
back in twenty sixteen for his recent Why hasn't the
federal government or the National Indituse of Health told us
about this, about this product of this issue? Why are
they approachious? Why is the RFK running about and telling

(02:06:13):
us about this? Why the scilence?

Speaker 7 (02:06:15):
You ask a very important question, Karl, and I cannot
answer for them. But let's just say it took them
so long to incorporate Robert F. Kennedy's research into what
they're doing. I mean, they're still trying to work out
how to weather or not to eliminate dies and these

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artificial food colorings, artificial preservatives and other things to eliminate
those from the food. And we've had what sixty years
or so of Dick Gregory in our community telling us
about those very same things. We knew that the artificial
food colorings and other substances did lead to over excitation

(02:06:59):
of the brain and therefore was related to autism and
a bunch of other disorders, etc. So, quite simply, I
cannot wait for the National Institutes of Health to tell
us about something for which they probably don't really understand
it as well. Although they do employ a spectrum of

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high quality researchers and scientists. This material is in all
of the scientific literature. All of them acknowledge the benefit
of caloric restriction for longevity, et cetera. But they don't
promote those things. In fact, what is being promoted, what
they generally accept as safe, generally regarded as say, GRAS

(02:07:44):
is absolutely horrible. The football commercials and sporting commercials Basketball
advertised junk garbage to each and us, every one of
us every day, and yet does the FDA know about
these key TV commercials. So quite simple, we're going to
have to come up with better mechanisms of informing our
people and everyone who would listen to us about how

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we can stay out of the danger zone and better
yet activate the best zone for us to be in
as we age.

Speaker 1 (02:08:14):
Yeah, I got to ask you this question because you
said they've got the scientists there, you know, working for
the federal government. They just fired a whole bunch of them.
RFK fired a whole bunch of them, and they basically
they don't believe in science, you know, they don't believe
in global warming or global change or climate change. They
don't believe in any of that stuff at all. How
we're going to convince them that this is something that

(02:08:35):
they should embrace in something that should pass on to
the American people. The Japanese are doing it, why not us.

Speaker 7 (02:08:42):
Yeah, that's a good question. I would say the best
that we can do is learn as much as we
can and then get out. I know that's a radical solution.
We'll talk about that next hour, but I think it's
seriously African people in America need to consider getting out.

(02:09:04):
A lot of people with means and talents are doing
this that they're getting out. But when it comes to America,
in so far as it's health, America is the wealthiest
research resource for research and development among the thirty eight
nations of what's it called. I can think of the

(02:09:27):
name of the group right now, But of all of
these thirty eight wealthy nations, the United States spends twice
as much as the next eleven under it on research
and development in medical and the United States ranks thirty
seventh out of thirty eight in so far as the
health statistics of its population. So it's a whole lot

(02:09:47):
of money being spent on something that is not producing
what they want. So we then ask the question what
are they spending the money on? And I, in my
conspiracy theory mind, I'm saying they are spinning it on
perpetuating their dominance over our lives.

Speaker 1 (02:10:07):
Well, let me it's just though, is big farmer, Because
that's the thing of their point when it comes to
stuff like this, why we're behind these other countries. You know,
is it big farmer or what is it? Or is
it they just don't care?

Speaker 7 (02:10:21):
Big farmers a collaborator, cooperator, no doubt. Big farmers are
all owned by their shareholders. And when we look at
who are the top shareholders of these big farmer companies,
now we're starting to zero in on what the target is.
And the word I was trying to think of was
OECD Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development, the thirty eight countries,

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of which US Health ranks thirty seven. So Big Farmer,
their boards of directors, their health. We do know we
can assume that their primary motivation for their business is profit.
We have evidence of that. I don't need to cite
that evidence. When we come to big pharma and many

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other corporations in America, the big corporations are pretty much
owned by the same companies, your Black Rock, Vanguard, a
number of them. But the owners of these companies, they're
like an octopus. They have their fingers everywhere, and when

(02:11:31):
it comes to our health, they will sell you the
bullets to shoot their mother metaphorically speaking, so quite simply,
I'm asking people to take things into their own hands.
Responsibility for yourself and your family first, and that's why
I do the research that I do. I never stop.
I do this research every day, car and every day

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we try and contribute something brand new to our understanding.

Speaker 1 (02:12:00):
I got a tweet question for you, brother to Katy.
The tweet says, a National Institute of Health. They understand
this process of intimated dieting and the benefits quite well,
but they are in cootes with the government. They're making
people sick, selling them medicine, selling them bad food, and
the cycle continues because they're part of the money training,
he says. The tweeter goes on to say, they just

(02:12:21):
don't care. It's all about the money. You sell people
food to make them sick, and then you sell a
medicine to keep them sick again. It's like a psyops
a thing going on here. Your thoughts on that tweet.

Speaker 7 (02:12:32):
Oh, I agree with every word that the tweet said.
There's nothing I can say except for you got it. Now,
get out and instruct and inform other people to your understanding.

Speaker 4 (02:12:43):
Of what is going on.

Speaker 1 (02:12:46):
Yeah, because I know doctor B talks a lot about
telemere so that the way you can extend your life
they call the fountain of youth. We yet to see
the federal government embrace that and talk about those issues
as well. But brother Keaty and I know you're familiar
with with the telomeres as well, but share some of
the if we go at a.

Speaker 7 (02:13:06):
Good high quality search engine, is there an association between
healthy telemeres and autophagy? It's going to come back and
say yes, here is the explanation.

Speaker 1 (02:13:19):
Oh wow. Nine away from the topic with brother Kean. Brother,
share some of the ways that one can activate atop
again again for a healthy lifespan.

Speaker 7 (02:13:27):
Voices getting this fading out again. It did come back
real strong, but now it's fading out again.

Speaker 1 (02:13:33):
Okay, how about now, Well it's my question if you, okay,
share some of the ways that one can activate autophagy
for a healthy lifespan.

Speaker 7 (02:13:45):
Mm hmm, okay. We did take you through one through five.
Number six regular physical exercise. Exercise is powerful. We do
know that it's a very powerful, non fasting way to
induce autopogy. Aerobic extra sizes such as running, cycling, and
swimming stimulate autopagy in muscles, the heart, liver, brain, and

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adipose tissue, which means fat tissue. So resistance training, high
intensity interval training, which I do every morning. HI walk
briskly for ninety seconds and then run as fast as
I can for twenty for thirty seconds, and that cycles
my body through a tube and it cycle. I'll do

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that ten times through tu minute cycle, and that activates
many parts of our body, our blood and everything oxygenation,
So that high intensity interval training is a great one.
Nutrient timing and time restricted eating. We talked about the
eighteen to six eating pattern that I use or the

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sixteen to eight eating pattern, both of them very good
for turning on autopogy. And it also aligns our circadian rhythm,
which is controlled by our pineal plan. Now, the circadian
rhythm not only keeps us in sync with the twenty
four hours of the day, but we do understand women's

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circadian rhythm tunes them into the month long cycle as
well as we have a yearly cycle with our circadian rhythm.
So therefore, by allowing our bodies to get cooler in
the winter time and hotter in the summertime, we're actually
utilizing that full year cycle and turning on the autopagy.

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Number nine on this list consumption of polyphenol rich foods.
Foods such as plant compounds. Green tea, which is rich
in at the galac at the gallo catching galley ep E,
g CG egg is a potent autopothy activator, so I

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have green tea every day. Polyphenols are found in berries,
dark chocolate, turmaric, ginger, and pomegranate also are great for
activating autopagy. And number ten supplements and natural compounds such
as barberine, which I do take for numerous benefits. Resbertral

(02:16:22):
one of our favorites. That's the pigment of the red
grapes and the red wine. Take out the alcohol. Now
you have grape juice and it has been leaked to
autopagy and longevity. Spermdine, sperm eddin present in wheat, germ,
fermented soy, and mushrooms supports autopogy. Kurstin found in apples

(02:16:44):
and onions. And lastly, MCT oil will support autopogy through
metabolic effects. So different techniques. There's box breathing, a bunch
of different techniques. I have put together this list of
twenty and I'm hoping that your audience will want to
get this list from me.

Speaker 1 (02:17:03):
All right, uh? Five away from the top down tweet
question for you, tweeter says grind rising to you and
your guest is the winder a few of the guests
who said that spinach saved his life. If so, can
you tell him to explain more about that? Were you
the one who said that spinach saved your life?

Speaker 7 (02:17:20):
Well, I did talk about my recipe called Spinach Saved
My Life soup, and that recipe appears in volume two
of my Living Superfood Recipes books. Have three books out
now specifically on Living super Food. The third one involves cooking,
but the first two were all raw recipes. So the

(02:17:41):
specific recipe I mentioned is called Spinach Save My Life soup,
and I would say, and if I were ever diagnosed
with a serious disease, I would eat Spinach Saved my
Life soup at least four times a week. And it's
a wonderful, wonderful recipe. It takes magnific it really does.

(02:18:03):
It's a little bit complex, so it's not I'm not
able to just cite all the ingredients on the air.
But by the time you have that, spending saved my life.
So it's so delicious and it actually will save your life.

Speaker 1 (02:18:17):
All right, we'll talk more about that when we get back.
We got to take a short break and we gotta
check the Oh, if you've already checked the trafficking, well,
we've got to take the break so our stations can
identify themselves down the line. Family, just checking in and
just waking up on this Thursday morning. It's a holiday
for some. But I guessed his brother Kitty, the multi
talented researcher. We're talking about health right now. When we
come back, though, we're going to go across the water,

(02:18:37):
go back to the continent. He's got some projects he's
working on in Africa, specifically in Ghana, and he wants
to share with us as well. You want to join
this conversation, reach out to us at eight hundred four
five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your
phone calls. After this this short break which next and
grind rising family and thanks for staying with us on
this Thursday morning, a holiday for some some people are

(02:18:58):
celebrating Thanksgiving, say some are not. Some people say they're
not addicted to white they don't do this kind of stuff,
but others do. And some people it's just it's not
really about what other folks celebrated for. They do it
for just family to get together, and we probably should
do that more often, I guess there. Brother Kitty, Brother
Kitty is one of these researchers. A's just on several topics.

(02:19:19):
That's where he works, you know, and we talked about health,
but he's also got some projects taking place on the
continent in Ghana. You know, Ghana has been welcoming us
home to Gone and they've been doing that for quite
some time, and other countries now stepped up, you know,
trying to get people to get US African Americans basically
to come to Ghane. But they're all over the diaspora.
I see too from reports from our listeners in London,

(02:19:42):
a lot of them have made the trick back to
Africa as well. So Brother Katy, you're reporting that we've
been extending another invitation to bring our resources home to Ghana.
Can you explain when did this When did this one
come by cover?

Speaker 5 (02:19:57):
Well, we do know.

Speaker 7 (02:19:59):
The beginning to twenty nineteen, there was a series of
initiatives from the Ghanaian government asking us to come back
home and do the best we could to bring our skills,
bring our talents, be bringing our investment capital as well,
and let's bridge the gap and do for Ghana what

(02:20:21):
they were seeing the Chinese diaspora doing for China, the
Indian diaspora doing for India and other groups that were
coming home and building their areas up. So building on that,
we've had a number of initiatives. The year of return
has been extended, and I'm very proud of what is

(02:20:41):
happening in Ghana right now. They have a dynamic new
leader and we should be embracing what's happening in Ghana.
Since that original invitation we've had the African Continental Free
Trade Agreement or Free Trade Area has come into agreement,
all the more incentive for us to come home. But

(02:21:03):
recently I got a call from one of my good associates.
He's very very influential across the continent. In fact, have
you had Meredith Bill on as a guest, No, I
have not. Yeah, I'll have to turn you on to
him easier. You'll find him to be one of the
most exciting guests that you could possibly have. Meredith used

(02:21:25):
to be used to own more radio stations in the
United States than any other black man owned more AM
radio stations, so he has a long history in media communications.
He has been on the continent for several years, based
out of Nairobi and helping countries to turn on their
digital media, television and everything. So recently Meredith became chief

(02:21:51):
Advisor to the King of the Piccolo Koy Kingdom in
Southern Africa, and as a consequence of ating to that
position is chief the chief's primary confidante. Meredith has now
expanded his reach continental and right now. He called me

(02:22:12):
in a couple of weeks ago and told me that
in Ghana he had been organizing the chiefs to come
together and they granted us, as Africans in the diaspora,
some ninety acres of land to come home and build
our own homestead. So Meredith and I have been dealing

(02:22:35):
with this for some time. We did talk about my
experience and my vision with what are called Kouji Chagalia
village is self determined nation villages and the idea of
creating these permaculture campuses across the continent and so building
upon that we are now. I am doing the best

(02:22:57):
I can to fulfill this idea of a number of
African Americans and African Brits and others across the diaspora.
Let's go home and let's build for ourselves what China
built for itself and of last since nineteen eighties, China
built for itself, and now India is building for itself.

(02:23:19):
It said that India will emerge to the developed status,
highly developed status as a nation and virtually eliminate poverty
right around the year twenty forty seven. So we can
see these trajectories. Why are we following the Western model,

(02:23:39):
in particularly the American model, which is like the worst
model for sustainable development of all of the Western nations.
We as African people in America, we can take a
different route. And I'm going to be encouraging everybody as
much as I can to learn and then let's.

Speaker 5 (02:23:57):
Make the commitment love your van eight.

Speaker 1 (02:24:00):
After the top of that, part of the problem is,
though brother Katie, you mentioned the Chinese, the Asians going
home and reconnecting with their country. Part of the problem
is many of us don't know who we are. We
don't want to be African, you know. I hate to
say but, but it's a reality. We're trying to be
everything else but but African. And the song for you black,
you are African. But we we we've been so thoroughly brainwashed.

(02:24:24):
We we think, you know, we're not African, we're something else.
We're in We don't know as uh how Sharquescien says,
always says know thyself, and we still confused. We're very
confused to who we are. You know, for some reason,
they've told us that, and it still resides in our
DNA that you don't want to be like that folks.

(02:24:46):
You know, when they and when the African brothers and
sisters come here, we try to stay away from them
and try to we think, let me put it bluntly,
we think we're white. We addicted to white. We just
we're just white folks, were just dark skin. So that's
the problem that the you're going to have to that's
the hurly you're going to have to go over first.
How are you going to convince those folks that they
are Africa in the first place. Africa is their home,

(02:25:09):
it's their home country. How are you going to do that?

Speaker 7 (02:25:13):
There is an old adage, how do you eat an elephant? Well,
the response has generally been one bite at a time.
But I say, the way you eat a whole elephant
is you invite the entire village to eat that elephant,
and that the elephant gets eaten quickly. So we're going

(02:25:34):
to invite the whole village to learn about the African
Continental Free Trade Area. It is the largest free trade
area on the planet. We get to learn about the
mineral resources across Africa. We can learn about you know, Africa.
Who used to be Carl And I know you remember

(02:25:55):
the time when the worst criticism worst. So you could
say to someone, oh you black African. You well, someone
who was to say that to me right now, I
will hold my head up in great pride and say
thank you for that compliment. I don't think you could
have given me a better compliment than to call me

(02:26:16):
a black African. So that identity crisis, which unfortunately keeps
cycling through us, it's the result of propaganda, negative propaganda.
The way you defeat negative propaganda is that you create
your own propaganda mechanisms, and you use those mechanisms such

(02:26:36):
as the Carl Nelson Show on WLAM radio and or
FM radio, and you turn your propaganda machine on as
much as you can, and then we also can do
a much better job of incorporating more diverse media into it.
But I tell you we've been had, we've been tricked,

(02:26:56):
we've been misled, we've been hoodwink we've been bamboozled, and
it's time that we learn the lessons of that and
quite simply get over it, because it's detrimental to the
progress of history. All humanity is in danger because the
African in US is not contributing to the forward progress.

(02:27:19):
We're doing the best we can to chase Urugu, which
is doctor Marimba One's term for the incomplete being. We're
doing the best we can to chase them, even if
it's over the edge of the cliff. Last point I'll
make the American Empire is over the lone superpower is

(02:27:41):
over the quicker. We can come to that understanding, then
we can begin to build the real wealth, which is
really the only thing that some of them even appreciate.
It's real power through real wealth.

Speaker 1 (02:27:56):
Yeah, I'm thinking of a shame though, because we've got
some groups who want to divide us and uh, you know,
and they don't understand they're being used and they don't
understand their leaders or agents, so they don't understand why,
you know, they want to keep you in the same
position that you are once you in your mind, confined
to your mind that when you got here that our answers.
They don't want you to grow, don't want you to
think for yourself. Well, you got to do, families, just

(02:28:18):
think for yourself. But you're let me just share this
with you, brother Katy. Uh, Sister Sharida's listened to us
in Ghana. She's in Ghana. You know, Sister Sida is
right all right. She says, happy new damn it. Brother,
it's such a pleasure to hear your voice on the
air this morning. Peace and love, brother Keaty. And she says,
I'll see you in Ghana soon. So she's listening to
us in Ghana. Your thoughts are well.

Speaker 7 (02:28:41):
I look forward to seeing our beloved sister Sharida. She
is the living embodiment of the God's family and what
she is contributing, what she's building over there is what
they want more of. So thank you, Sister Sharida. It's
an absolute joy to be hearing you today, and I

(02:29:02):
look forward to being over there. Probably I have different options.
There's are always settling in the Krah area. But also
one of my dearest friends is embedded in the culturable
region where the bolted Dam is located, and he has
some five hundred extra acres that he's living on and

(02:29:24):
he wants me to come on over there and help
him build that up with the Kooji chuck A Leah village.
So these ideas of building these perma culture campuses where
people can come and learn, we need to start here
where we are, so people can come onto the campus
and learn how to become an African, feel comfortable around

(02:29:46):
African paradigms, and then it might be easier for us
to transition onto the continent. The problem is is that
I see very little incentives on the part of Afrey
Amir leadership to contribut to something as radical an idea
as building our own villages. Here's a thing though, the

(02:30:06):
longer we delay on this commitment, the more that Bill
Gates and other billionaires are buying up all of the
available land and don't get me started. Part of much
of the Kuchi Jags's plan is recovering the land, the
land wealth that we need to even feed ourselves over here.

(02:30:30):
If we took all of the black owned farmland and
grew as much food as we could on it, we
can only feed about seventeen million people off of three
million acres, and that's using holistic gardening methods. Seventeen million
people feeds about one quarter of all of the Africans,
Afro Latinos, mixed race Africans, the sixty two plus million

(02:30:54):
people of African heritage in this country.

Speaker 1 (02:30:59):
Now let me yeah, this is you've missed that conversation
we had this week with doctor obrah Dally Cambone. Doctor
Combald is in Ghana. He's from He's from here in
New York and he moved to Ghana when he was
a young man and now he teaches the University of Ghana,
teaches language, teaches them their language, teaches them how to uh,
how to speak twit, tweet and the other languages in Ghana.

(02:31:20):
So he was here and they're having a big event.
They're having a Pan African conference next month in December,
and they're all having also a movie review as well,
and they're doing a lot of things in Ghana. For
folks who were thinking about gone, just pick up a
copy of that podcast. And if you know doctor Cambone,
you'll know what he's talking about. Yeah, I mean, he
seems it seems totally immersed in the Ghanaian culture. He's

(02:31:42):
he's a good person to hook up with if you're
going to Ghana.

Speaker 7 (02:31:45):
Yeah, doctor Obidile, he is the living heritage of doctor
Kamal Cambone, who we honor him by honoring his child
is prodigy. Obid is one of the most blue and
functional Africans I have ever met, and I mean that
with no uncertainty. He has a number of services that

(02:32:07):
he does helping Africans from the dash for right to
make it home and settle in, get accustomed to the
languages and things. As you mentioned, he is a specialist,
language specialist. He speaks and writes better treat than most
Chante people do.

Speaker 1 (02:32:27):
That is so true. Another note here from Sister Shariita.
She says the Africans on the content are addicted to
white even more than us. This is their session. She says,
there's a saying in Ghana if you are walking to
church and you see a white man on the way,
you can go home because you've seen Jesus for the day.
Wow since the Sarta.

Speaker 7 (02:32:45):
That's one of the shocking revelations that one finds when
you're going home, is that the Christianity that And now
I don't mean to be offensive, but I'm going to
be as honest as I can. The Christianity that was
a key component of inverting us as Africans to become
this permanently enslaved creature inside of the United States has

(02:33:09):
now been turned on in Africa. But it's not the
true Christianity. If you want to see what true African
Christianity is, you've got to go to Ethiopia. I went
to ethiopiaan May twenty seventeen, and I learned that the
Ethiopians are the most graceful Christians I've ever met on

(02:33:30):
the earth, and I encourage all of my Christian brothers
and sisters in the across the Diastobra go to Ethiopia.
If you are a Christian, I have no complaint about that,
but you need to understand that the Christianity that was
formulated on the African continent as evidence by so much
ASHUKUSI will reinforce that Ishaka Musa by rashango reinforced that

(02:33:55):
we created this Christianity is not the same Christianity that
was used to enslave us.

Speaker 1 (02:34:03):
All right, hold up, all right there seventeen aft the
top of that. Brother. Of course you've got to be
here next week. I know he'll get into that. We
got to step aside for a few moments. We come
back though, because you know, we can't do with that money.
And we always talk about money. How much money is
in the black community, and we don't know where is
this our black spending power. Can you get into that
and tell us where is this all this money? Because
we've got the trillion and change now keeps go every year,

(02:34:24):
keeps getting more. We have more and more money. But
we look at where I'm more of us are poorer
and poorer than we are last year. So where's this
money coming from? Where's he going help us out with that?
Brother Keaty family, You want to join this conversation with
brother Keaty, reach out to us at eight hundred and
four five zero seventy eight to seventy six and we'll
take your phone calls next and grand Rising family. Thanks
for staying with us on this Thursday morning Thanksgiving. David.

(02:34:46):
For some folks, I guess his brother Katy. Brother Keaty
is a researcher. He's working on this guy's hands in
several projects and one on the one he's talking about
is ain't Ghana. But we're talking about first of all,
let's talk about the money in this our community, African
American community, because they said we've got a trillion plus
dollars in the black community, and you talk to folks
these days and say, well, they're doing worse than last year.

(02:35:07):
They have less money. So, brother Keaty, we often talk
about the black spending power in the US, but you
have a different way of considering this huge sum. Explain
why you and others disagree with this notion of black
spending power. Is brother Katy said, willis Hopefully we haven't.

Speaker 7 (02:35:28):
Loss come back again. It's hard for any group to
consider its wealth as when it's spent. Most of the
time that extra money is spent in debt. So the
idea of black consumer power is a myth. The annual

(02:35:50):
consumption level for African Americans afree am ariags as I
termed them is projected to reach approximately one zero point
nine eight trillion dollars annually by the end of twenty
twenty five, with the expections of growth expectations of growth
to between two point five trillion and three trillion by

(02:36:13):
twenty thirty. So, I mean it was alarming when it
was one point six trillion. Well that was a decade ago.
Now it's over one point eight trillion, expected to reach
one point ninety eight trillion at the end of the year.
This end does reflect the increasing economic influence of the
black community, driven by population growth, higher education levels, and

(02:36:36):
greater access to higher paying jobs and entrepreneurial opportunities. But
as you mentioned, Carl, for the most of us, it
actually fuels like our spending power is growing less because
food inflation and medical inflation is far outstripping what increases
in income we are getting. And you know, quite simply,

(02:36:57):
the food inflation medical inflation alone are bankrupting America. Let
loan our population. So if we combine African immigrants into
the United States along with our native born Afriime areas,
this spending power is projected to reach as high as

(02:37:18):
four trillion dollars, approaching for trillion dollars. At present, the
immigrants into the United States have a higher income level
and of course the higher standard for them to even
be in the United States, and so they bring in
other resources. The other thing is that we have to

(02:37:38):
consider is production, and that's where we get tricked. According
to the best research that I can produce, right now,
we are producing nearly two trillion dollars, but no our
in we're spending two trillion dollars, but our businesses are

(02:37:58):
only producing less than one hundred and eighty eight billion
dollars annually. Therefore, for every one dollar in products and
services that our businesses produce, we are spending over nine
dollars about nine dollars and twenty seven cents or so.

(02:38:21):
So quite simply, that's an unsustainable, unsustainable ratio. And so
when we understand this, we now start to turn around
and what are the possibilities that we could do by
going to the African continent for our economic future. The
money that we're spending, let's turn it into investment capital.

(02:38:44):
But we got to want something more than trinkets and
Chinese made plastic goods for our high level of consumption.
So therefore we're coming up with more well defined plans
on what we can do to can tribute to Africa's
growth as we lived Africa up into and beyond this

(02:39:07):
power level that has been so deliberate in holding us
in check.

Speaker 1 (02:39:16):
All Right, got a tweet question for you, brother Katy.
At twenty five after the top yeah tweeter says greetings
to you and your guest, brother Keaty. Will you ask,
brother Kitty, what is the meaning of being a Christian?
And can African Americans ever expect to keep their money
in the community until we start building houses? Start building houses?

Speaker 5 (02:39:36):
M h.

Speaker 7 (02:39:37):
Well, we do know that housing is one of the
three major expenses that Black families have housing, transportation, and food.
And when it comes to housing, we are absolutely losing.
If we build houses traditionally the way our families build
houses before they had mortgage companies, all of that we

(02:40:01):
would be saving up the money buying them materials and
then do what my father did. He built his own
house for about twenty two thousand dollars in the late
nineteen fifties and he hired all the labor, including as
many of his friends would come and work on it.
There are other groups that do this as well. If
this is the way that housing is built on the

(02:40:24):
African continent, and so building houses, securing our transportation, and
also food, Africans in America are completely dependent upon external
people to feed us. We talk about owning farmland. The
amount of farmland Africans in America own is shrinking by

(02:40:46):
fifty thousand or so acres every year, and it's only
enough to feed at best seventeen million people. So therefore,
if there are sixty two million of us who all
need to be fed, we are completely dependent upon external groups.
And Bill Gates right now is buying up all of
the farmland, including much of the farmland that goes into

(02:41:08):
resale et cetera, because of the tax violations and other
things that they're basically families are losing their land. They're
giving it away. So land, housing, transportation, food, These are
the top three takeaways from us. We're taking away in
our consumer gift to the system, and we're not competing

(02:41:32):
in so far as production. So the answer is no,
we will not gain wealth unless we start building housing
and wants. You mentioned Christianity. Why aren't the churches taking
a better position insofar as developing our land? And that's
a question I cannot.

Speaker 1 (02:41:51):
Answer all right, twenty eight after tough, Really, Katy share
with us. I'm not sure on many of the audience though.
So the richest black man is an African Nigerian to
be exact, I know you've had dealings with some of
the richest brothers on the continant.

Speaker 7 (02:42:10):
Can you share that with us, Yeah, because we need
to be very pain very close to what's happening in Nigeria.
We do know that accident Trump has targeted Nigeria and we,
apparently Afrey Aimeris have no response to that. But the
richest black man in the world of Leko Dangote, has

(02:42:32):
a number of different enterprises that have not only created
this wealth for himself and his family, but they've also
lifted Nigeria up in many of his incentives and we
can participate in it, or we could decide to go
in a whole new direction. I'm going to be talking
about Africa's vast Exclusive Economic Zone EEZ, which extends some

(02:42:57):
two hundred miles off the coastline of Africa all around
the continent. But looking at Aleko Dangote's holdings, he is
of course the largest oil refinery south of the Sahara,
south of the Sahara. He is into fertilizers, farming, he
runs seaports, et cetera. The sugar, much of the sugar

(02:43:21):
produce on the African continent is a Leco Dangote. So
he's done a phenomenal job of building this. Again, with
one point nine to eight trillion dollars in consumer power
or consumer spending, I should say we could go in
and take a steak on helping to develop Africa. Just

(02:43:43):
transforming the economic exclusive economic zones into Africa's blue Ocean
economy has the potential to create as much as four
trillion dollars within a few years of just development. That
other thing that African countries are not drilling their own

(02:44:03):
coastal waters. So when we talk about concessions for oil
coming out of the Gulf of Guinea, if they're going
into Ghana, Ghana, the last I heard was getting five
percent of the oil wealth being drilled out of the
Gulf of Guinea and the rest of it going to
British and the French corporations. That is insane, It's obscene,

(02:44:29):
And we are invited to come in and take over
these things from the British and from the French.

Speaker 1 (02:44:37):
Yeah, I want twenty nine away from the top. I
wanted you to explain that because you know, when we
think about bility, is we think of Oprah and jay
Z and all that, because that's our minds are constructed.
But we've got to broaden our mind Rich is black
when I think the top four or five are from Nigeria,
if I'm not mistaken, and I know you know some
of them, brother Kitty, But why is there so much

(02:44:58):
wealthy Nigeria?

Speaker 4 (02:44:58):
Is it all?

Speaker 1 (02:44:59):
Petroleum? Is oil?

Speaker 7 (02:45:01):
It did initially began as oil concessions, but Africans have
since branched out into other fields, other branches. Doctor Tony Elumelu,
who is also a Nigerian, I believe he's the second
wealthiest Nigerian that there is. And Tony Elamelu made his

(02:45:23):
money in fintech, the financial industries, and so we understand
we can broaden ourselves, but we're going to be very
very deliberate about the process and the more that we
branch out. I mean, if we're looking for wealth, all
we have to do is create a deal with the Congo,

(02:45:44):
the Democratic Republic of the Congo. They have the wealthiest
national nerve estimated twenty four trillion dollars of untapped natural
resources in the DRC, and they are now looking out
to branch out in to smelting their own materials. So
now that they're mining these they want to refine them

(02:46:07):
and instead of just exporting raw materials, they want to
export finish products. So why would we not seize the
opportunity to go into a country with such immense untapped
natural resources and take over that responsibility, or and go
in partnership with the country for that responsibility. It's shocking, Carl,

(02:46:31):
It's shocking for me. I don't seem to understand this
mindset that says to Africans across the diaspora, I don't
want to have nothing to do with my black African cousins.
It's shocking.

Speaker 1 (02:46:46):
Yeah, but let me ask you this question. They've got
so much money, fair you know, in Africa. These are billionaires,
Like I said, I think the top five in Nigerian's
What is it they need from us though? On this
side of the content, because they do have they've got
the manpower. Is it the brain power they need? Because
they have the money, the resources, why hasn't this been done?

(02:47:08):
How can we fill the gap? If that's what's needed.

Speaker 7 (02:47:13):
I think you do make a good point. We have
the resources, the x, we have the experience. Africans in
the diaspora have been trained in all aspects of running
a modern high tech country. Are military expertise in the generals,
et cetera. All of that could be brought to bear.

(02:47:40):
Ask me the question one more time.

Speaker 1 (02:47:43):
Yeah, yeah, The question is we've got these billionaires you
mentioned the top I think five or six billionaires and
black billionaires, black billionaires Africans and mostly them are Nigerians.
These brothers have all the money and they have the population.
They've got the mind power to do that. Why do
they need us? Are we some sort of the middle

(02:48:04):
person is in the brain powers? I'm trying to understand that.
You know they have the money. Why did they have
to deal with the third part of whether they have
to go to France or to the UK. Are your
suggestion that we need to fill that gap and replace
those other players and help our brothers and sisters on
the content? How can we do that if that's the case.

Speaker 7 (02:48:23):
Yeah, they see the development models. They see what China did,
and China did not wait for white people to come
and develop their wealth and power China seized the power
in their own hands. We look at China after Jingshaw
Ping's rise to Chinese leadership around the early nineteen eighties,

(02:48:45):
we can see by the late by the early nineteen nineties,
China was on a rapid upward trajectory. They eliminated poverty
across China. Forty million plus people were moved out of poverty.
Actually many more than that. But they see the model
of Chinese people for China, Indian people for India, European

(02:49:11):
people for Europe. It has worked again and again. Japanese
people for japan people. Forget the Japanese Japan is still
the third largest economy in the world, and so Japanese
people for Japan. It makes so much great sense when
we compare the size of our global populations. There are

(02:49:32):
more Africans on this planet than there are Chinese on
this planet. Indians on this planet. They're diasporas are much
smaller than that. We're diaspora, which might include anywhere from
two hundred to three hundred million people added to the
one point five to five billion indigenous Africans. We have
the youngest population, so we have a demographic dividend for

(02:49:56):
the twenty first century. It makes no sense that the
Africans in America or UK would be stand hand, stand
office and ignore what's happening. I can only just say
it just comes down to we've been captured, brainwashed, and

(02:50:17):
I cannot help us suspect that our fundamental motivator, which
still is religion, is an instrument of our further instatement.
But we're breaking that model. I don't want to emphasize
too much negativity on this conversation because we're breaking that model.
We have been invited to come in and build villages,

(02:50:38):
build homes, build whole neighborhoods. Huge land tracks have been
offered up and we can and we should go in
and do the best we can to grab it, to
build it, and to go on and let us as
Africans and the answer, let us compete for the wealthiest
group of people on earth. Why would we not compete

(02:51:00):
only because we've been whiting inside of our minds?

Speaker 1 (02:51:03):
Right hold? I thought, right there, I'll step aside for
a few months. I know we could get some emails
and textas from our friends listening to us in the
UK because there's a serious remigration in the UK. Brothers
and sisters going back home. Family, What are your thoughts
on this conversation? You want to join us? Reach out
to us at eight hundred four or five zero seventy
eight to seventy six or twenty three minutes away from
the top of that. We'll take your calls next Grand

(02:51:24):
Rising Family eighteen minutes away from the top of the
air on this Thanksgiving Day with Brother Kitty. Brother Kitty
is a multi Italian researcher. Before we go back to
let me just remind you come up tomorrow. It's Friday.
We're going to give you a chance to free you
in mind. All that means is thing for yourself and
join us for our open from Friday program. You're getting
promptly at six am Eastern term right here in baltimorrow
and ten ten WLB also in the TMV on fourteen

(02:51:45):
fifteen WL. Let me just say this. I know some
people are talking about the tom go back to Africa,
go back to Africa. Well, Africa isn't throw all of us,
not everyone you know can benefit from going back to Africa.
I think it was Marcus Goneby said the folks who
no good here? Who's going to be no good in Africa?
So I can understand that sentiment. They said this. So
when we're on the plantations that he was talking about

(02:52:06):
going back to Africa, they said, no, they prefer to
stay here. So you're also rude. So you know what
we're talking about here. Just free your mind and think
a little bit, because you know, you cannot liberate a
slave who has found comfort in his captivity. I don't
know who said that, but that's that's what it is.
People are, you know, Doctor Wilson put in a different way,
she says, people are just trying to get a better

(02:52:26):
way the system of racism and white supremacy, just a
better way of dealing with it. They don't want to
tackle it or want to engage with it, or even
as we mentioned it, going back to Africa and speak
about going back to Africa. Brother Katy, Doctor Sharida Sharida
picked up the phone and decided to call us. She's
on line too. She's in Ghana this morning. Grand Rising,
Doctor Sharida, you're with.

Speaker 8 (02:52:45):
Brother kennybody family and it has been so long. Yeah,
so I'm actually heading I'm in.

Speaker 9 (02:53:00):
I'm compon now. I'm heading back to Ghana's Sunday. But
I just wanted to make to talk about this thing
about the Chinese and comparing us to how we can't
be like them. So this is something that's talked about
all the time. But one thing about the Chinese. They're Chinese.
Is not Jackanese, Korean, whatever, It's not an Asian movement.

(02:53:23):
They're Chinese. The Chinese government anytime they send them their
people out, they send them with resources. So say they
come to Ghana, and I'll give an example. A lot
of them came to Ghana to set up media like printing,
you know, things like that. And so they went to

(02:53:44):
this area called Coco Memble in the center of a crowd.
And this is the area where you want to go
to get anything printing, whether it's banners, business cards, flyers,
you know, anything that you don't want to get printed.
This is are anything to do with like fixing your
computers and things like that. This area is known for that.

(02:54:06):
So what they do they come and set themselves up
in the center of it. And then they come with low,
low prices, So I'm talking about almost fifty to seventy
percent lower than what any the name in that area
can do. So they send them with equipment, they send
them with money to be to have housing. They send
them with money to be able to put their children

(02:54:27):
in school and all these different things. So they have
their support of their government, which which is the difference,
which is part of the reason why we can't do
it the same way that they do it, because we
definitely don't have any government support here, nor do we
have that support in Africa.

Speaker 4 (02:54:46):
Because they want us to bring resources, they want us.

Speaker 9 (02:54:50):
To bring our knowledge and bring our skills. So when
when we're saying something about the Chinese are able to
do it and how come we can do it, well,
this is their strategy, we had to understand why and
how they've been able to do it. I just wanted
to put that comment out there.

Speaker 7 (02:55:09):
That's a very important point that you make. And I
don't want to sound as if I am encouraging us
to wait for China to come and build Africa. But
what we do see in the consequence is why I
go back to the nineteen eighties to talk about how
did China first do that? All of that for China,

(02:55:31):
and what we would take from that is how we
can bypass the Chinese and start to build in Africa
that which Africa needs for its future and the Indians.
The Indians have been building up India and now the
Indians increasingly are moving into Africa. Malaysian people moving into Africa,

(02:55:54):
South Korean people moving into Africa, Japanese moving into Africa, Asians, Caucasians,
everyone's moving into Africa. Why because they see us, as
Afri Africans across the aspora as stagnant and non competitive.
This is why I teach the idea of game theory,

(02:56:16):
which is a whole other topic of game theory in
my book The African Future, so we can understand what
is it all there, What is the reason that so
many of them are moving to Africa for the future.
And once we understand those motivations, we can understand why
we absolutely must compete against them for the future of

(02:56:39):
our African continent. One of the things that just recently
focused in on is Africa's exclusive economic zone. It's estimated
to become the world if Africa can develop its ees
for its own self interest, Africa could become the world's
fourth largest econ me by twenty fifty, and that's not

(02:57:02):
that far away. In twenty fifty, of course, the fourth
legic car continent with kind of insists that Africa unite
itself and get rid of the colonial border. So I
know I'm kind of jumping around, but you do bring
up a good point. It's not about the Chinese going
into African building its wealth. Nope, that's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 (02:57:24):
All right, thank you, doctor Shareda. I thank you're going
up hey by the way, doctor Shurida, I'm still taking
my ckls. Thank you and thank your dad.

Speaker 9 (02:57:34):
Oh yeah, need today right.

Speaker 1 (02:57:37):
Yes, we sure did. A family ckls'd love it.

Speaker 7 (02:57:41):
Great to hear your voice today.

Speaker 1 (02:57:43):
All right, family twelve away from the top us, doctor Shareda.
She's in competence and she's usually in Ghana. We're listening
to us. But here's a tweet question for you, Brotherati
Tweeter says, how did China get your heavy equipment to
build that country?

Speaker 7 (02:57:56):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (02:57:57):
And is there a way for Africa to get the
heavy equipment needed to build out Africa?

Speaker 7 (02:58:03):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, there are plans on doing
just that. The reason China built their own heavy equipment
two things. One, they had cheap access to metals because
China became the largest supplier of metals to the West,
and so once you know, they had built up enough money,

(02:58:24):
they just decided to go ahead and reverse engineer these
machines that they were building for Western countries. So China
built its own heavy equipment, and therefore we could start
by smelting the minerals in the Democratic Republic of the
Congo and began the process of reverse engineering everything that

(02:58:47):
we need to build our own.

Speaker 1 (02:58:52):
I hope we didn't. We didn't lose him. You're still
there with us, brother, Katy. Ten away, okay, all right?
Ten away from the top. I can hear you now
a question, though, everybody's not want to want to go home. Though,
folks are going to want to stay here because again,
as I mentioned that, they've been comfortable here. They're comforted in,
you know, in the land of oppression. They don't feel

(02:59:13):
that are pressure. They don't see it, they don't recognize it.
So they're very comfortable. All as Dr Wilson said, they're
just trying to be more comfortable that many of the
folks are not going to go home. So what about
the folks who are going to stay behind? What about
what can you say to those folks.

Speaker 7 (02:59:27):
It's not like everyone is going to go We don't
need everyone to leave here. We need people over here
to be able to funnel resources to us over there.
But I think the people you're talking about the people
who do not identify with the African future, and I
all I can say is I have seen the future.

Speaker 4 (02:59:47):
I am a.

Speaker 7 (02:59:47):
Scientific futurist, and I only listen to people who articulate
the future where Africa has overcome its colonization, etc. Et cetera.
So if a person doesn't have a vision, eventually they're
going to catch up. Because isn't it true, Karl, that
life is getting harder and harder for more and more Americans.

(03:00:10):
Americans are being squeezed out of the middle class, not
just Africans in America, but in all groups. The middle
class are shrinking, while the fastest growing middle class on
the planet is the African continent. And I'll remind you
africas the youngest population of anywhere on the planet. Niger

(03:00:30):
and You've gotta the two youngest countries on the planet,
so we can understand the consumer base is going to
be growing there. If you were to put me in
a debate with any of these people who say I'm
not going to go I ain't know Africans, and that
I would welcome that debate, because on every substantial element

(03:00:50):
that argument falls very very short. If they want to
stay here, then don't be here just being here trying
to compete in this be here because strategically you are
feeding resources to your people so that ultimately they will overcome.
And eventually, once we do overcome this poverty gap with
the rest of the world, they're going to start to

(03:01:13):
see a future in Africa as much more feasible.

Speaker 1 (03:01:16):
But the kid, how do you how do you share
with them? How do you explain to the being here
they're just feeding their own oppression. And it's a cycle.
It's cyclical because you're comfortable. You don't want to leave
here because you've told you that you're an American. Yeah
you can. You can be as rich as as Oprah
and magic. You can make it like Michael Jordan and
doctor doctor Man, I'm joining a seeing a moment here

(03:01:41):
Claude Andison. Yeah, he said, they always let one or
two out at the top, but they're not gonna let
everybody out. He also define He says, if you look
in a white neighborhood, as soon as it turns five
or six percent black, white folks start to leave. So
they have a devil, they have an appetite for a
certain amount of us, but they're not gonna let all
of us through the game response.

Speaker 7 (03:02:01):
There's no logic in that thought. It's like the lottery logic.
They will emphasize, publicize, propagandize the benefits of winning the lottery,
and show you the person just living this life, extravagant
life because they hit the lottery. And the reason they
propagandize that is because the lottery is essentially a tax

(03:02:23):
on poor, stupid people, and so the chances of you
winning the lottery, I think there's more greater chance of
being eaten by a shark or struck by lightning. And
so therefore they're going to publicize a lottery because they're
getting revenue off of the lottery. But if we understand
the truth, and this is what you and I are

(03:02:45):
here to project as responsible Black media, the truth is
is that the wealth will not come in the lightning
like it did to Oprah, which Oprah was built up
by the system. That's why they create one Oprah and
you don't see the Oprah phenomena coming in. If we
look at Oprah and compare Oprah to the National Football league.

(03:03:08):
We can understand that if talent was enough to build
it up, Oprah the whole talk show host would be
nothing but black Oprah's No, Oprah was a phenomena cultivated
and groomed by the mainstream establishment to sell us false values.
So I don't mean to be too cruel on Oprah.
She's a very talented African woman. But the quality is

(03:03:31):
we are in a global war, and that's why we
need to understand the mechanisms of this. And that's game theory.

Speaker 1 (03:03:42):
Right, and the war that sticks away from the top
of the war family. Would you say so the war
is for the African mind Oh.

Speaker 7 (03:03:49):
Yes, no doubt. Because if they can control the most
powerful people on the planet, our minds, controlled our minds,
then they they've defeated us for at least the next
half century.

Speaker 5 (03:04:03):
See.

Speaker 7 (03:04:04):
The thing is, we're going to have to start planning
our strategic strategic plan for beyond the year twenty fifty
And I am developing my strategic plan for beyond the
Twitter year twenty sixty three, which means I have to
live long, well over one hundred years to be able
to enjoy the plan that I'm even establishing. So we

(03:04:26):
can do that we got to put our minds in right.
We got to put our minds in order, and therefore
the rest of the population, the rest of us society
will follow. But we are not on unlimited time here.
We need to start this as soon as possible with

(03:04:46):
as best efforts as we can, which is why I
am pushing the plan for Kuchi Chaka Lea Villages. I
wrote the book Kuchi Chalkala Villages, a Practical Plan for
Self Determination, and much of what we're talking about out
today is about that. Let's just go for the exclusive
economic zone around the African continent that is expected to

(03:05:10):
be bringing in one point five trillion dollars annually. If
we add that to our low levels of production here
in this continent, only two hundred less than two hundred
billion dollars a year in production, we can then start
to lower the gap between that which we spend and
that which we have earned.

Speaker 1 (03:05:32):
Right, We're going to cut it right there, brother Keevin,
just flat out of time. So how can folks reach you?
How can we find a more information they want to
get in on the programs that you talked about this morning.

Speaker 7 (03:05:41):
I do encourage people to read my books at some
sixty books now have been published. And that's at www
dot k E I DI dot biz, TD dot biz.
And that's you'll see my books there. And I encourage
people text you can text me, do not call. Text

(03:06:02):
me at three at seven zero two five eight zero
zero six six two. I repeat seven oh two five
eight zero zero six six two, and let's get together,
let's plan and let's go home together.

Speaker 1 (03:06:19):
Gay right, thank you, brother Katy for all of us,
thank you, and thank you for what you do. Thank you,
Brother Katy. Respect all right, family's brother Keaty. Classes dismissed
for the day. Hey, have a great day. Stay strong,
stay positive, Please stay positive, please please stay healthy. We'll
see you tomorrow morning, six o'clock right here in Baltimore
on ten ten WLB. I'm also in the DMV on

(03:06:42):
fourteen fifty WOL

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