Zaki Baruti, Garveyites Senghor Baye and Baba Imhotep & More

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And Grand Rising family, and thanks for starting your Tuesday
with us. Later, the President General of the Universal African
People's Organization will check into our classroom. Brother Zaki Brudy
will introduce us to the group's ambassador to the Gambia.
Before Zaki Gavis, Brother Sean Goo bay A and Baba
m Otep will preview the week's Race First Convention that's

(00:20):
going to take place in Baltimore. But before we hear
for those brothers Washington DC activists pastor the Reverend Doctor
Willie Wilson and reflect on the thirtieth anniversary of the
Million Man March and also the forty third anniversary of
Unifest and momentarily Peacekeeper DC Peacekeepers recalling Brother Direl Muhammad
will join us. But let's get Kevin to open the
classroom doors on this Tuesday morning, Grand Rising, Kevin.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Grand Rise zing Karl Nelson, Man, it's nothing like a
great cup of coffee on a Tuesday morning about.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Six two am. How you feeling, Carl Nelson?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
I'm still learning, Kevin. This is just so much to learn.
I'm still learning.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Just when you thought you knew it all, huh. But
we'd take it away, you know it all card. Nope,
that's right, bruh. Keep on because you inspire us. You know,
I'm speaking for the listeners too.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Man, you inspire. I just bring people on the radio.
I don't inspire. There's nothing that I say that since
this mind blowing.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, but it's your approbative ideology of questions that you
lay before the thinkers of our time, the intellectuals, and
you know, you're just you don't come up with just
the regular ABC questions. You go all the way through
the whole alphabet. So it's the Carl Nelson Wikipedia.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
I try to ask the questions that the listeners would
ask are afraid of ask. I won't call in because
you know, and talk to most of the folks who
call in the minority. Most of the folks just listen. Yeah,
that's just listen.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
That is true. Then we get the you're right. Then
they're those who want to get their point of view.
They know, you know, they think you missed it, and
so they bring that and we appreciate that too, of course.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
And then you have those who think they can match,
which they're just as smart as some of our scholars,
you know, so I listened to them. They try to
you know, try to compare or compete with the scholars
and think they know just as much or more than
these scholars.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Well, you know, they say it's the c students that
become millionaires in the world.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Okay, yeah, those are dropped out of Harvard, right, those who.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Dropped out of Harvard.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Exactly, they're the ones that you know, become the millionaires.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
I don't know about Oprah. Did she? Did she finish?
I think she finished? Didn't she?

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah? She finished?

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, it's different for us though, you know exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Hey, look, did you know that Colan Kaepernick is funding
an independent automosy for Trey.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Read No, No, I'm glad he's doing that. Someone's got
to do that, you know. I think I heard the
Ben Crump attorney. Brent Company is uh involved in that
case as well.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Right, exactly.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
According to the press release by civil rights attorney Ben Crump,
Kaepernick's Know Your Rights Camp autopsy initiative would cover the
cost of a second independent autopsy for deceased Delta State
University student di Mar Trevion, better known as Trey Reid,
whose death earlier this week was ruled a suicide by
state authorities and Trade's death evoked the collective memory of

(03:27):
a community that has suffered an historic wound over many years,
many deaths, Crump said in his statement. And he also
said peace will come only by getting to the truth.
And we thank Colin Kaepernick for supporting this grieving family
and the cause of justice and truth.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
You know, yeah, because those those costs are expensive. And
again the bottom line, they see it was found hanging
on a trade they said, you know, on a campus
of the school campus in Mississippian, and they were saying
that he committed suicide, and the family disagrees. So this,
this autopsy will will shed some light on whether who's
right and who's wrong hopefully.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Now just a question, just a question though, and that
is of course the Medical Examiner's office is going to
conduct the autopsy. But can you tell the difference if
you hang yourself or somewhat you have been hung you.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Know, oh yeah, yeah, because the the resident will be
on you, if the rope will be on your hands
hopefully and and and and you know, around your neck
and the ligature, and if you would try to hold
you know, or if somebody did it and there's nothing
on his hands or he tried to put his hands.
All of that will show up. The very sophisticate that

(04:43):
now the autopsies can do that. You can't even tell
what time, you know, he died almost down to the second.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, oh, I see right, it's our own version of
law and order here they say. Yeah, they say, the
preliminary examination can confirm that the diseased did not suffer lacerations, contusions,
compound fractures, broken bones, or injuries consistent with assault.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
So that's what they're looking for assault.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Right, if it was if it was pummeled or got
of contusions, any bruises before, that means they you know,
he didn't just walk up and just if they say
he committed suicide and he wouldn't have any of those
marks on him. He would just you know, go up
and hang himself. But if he if they had to
subdue him before they did it, that would probably show up.
If they punched him or try to restrict him in

(05:31):
any way, you know, that would show up in the autopsy.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
When they say, at this time, there's no evidence to
suggest that he was physically attacked before his death. And
so our condolences go out to the family and and
just we're gonna wait for the conclusion on that.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Thanks again to Colin Kaepernick.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
You know, sometimes you can use your money for all
kinds of good, can't you?

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Sure? What else is it trending this morning?

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well, of course, all DC is a buzz because it's
the fifty fourth Congressional Black CAUCUSS Annual Legislative Conference coming
up this weekend that September twenty fourth through the twenty eighth.
And so I have this right here that the Annual

(06:19):
Legislative Conference is the leading public policy convening focused on
issues impacting African Americans and the global Black community.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
The ALC is a unique platform.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Where thought leaders, legislators, influencers, and concerned citizens converged to
discuss and address critical issues, forge partnerships, and promote the political, economic,
and social advancement of Black communities.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Right, and we and you Ebany mcmart she's going to
be with us tomorrow, Kevin. You know Avny work with
us here at Radio one. She now works for American
Urban Radio Networks. She's going to give us a court
on that. And I don't know if you saw it,
but she asked a White House press conference a few
days ago, she has resident she was asking a Trumpet question.
He says, oh, you're so obnoxious, you know, he called

(07:05):
her obnoxious to talking that was evan, Yes, so she's
gonna yeah. I mean she's a credible journalist. She's a
real good journalist, yes, and.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
One of the nicest people you ever want me.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
And he called her obnoxious. It sent me to to
let me, let me, let me call it maybe something
that you know, wear when Trump uses words like what
do you mean by that? Look it up?

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Now listening to it, because I did listen to that
a clip of that, and I don't she's assertive in
that moment, and I would give her that.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
You know, oh, you have to be and you know
that's part of the job. Yeah, you got to get
your question anything.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Everybody else's got their microphone.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
And yeah, you and you you know what it is back,
you know, as a reporter, you've got to get your
question and for your for your company, for the people
that you represent. And she's saying the American Veran radio
network she's speaking on and they're representing black community because
we don't have too many black white House reporters, by
the way, So she's got to get get She's representing us,
So she got to get a question in the reflects

(08:10):
on how how it deals with us as a community.
So she's up against everybody else, you know, because all
the world, every report around the world has got a
person in there representing them, right unless the Trump has
kicked him out because he has to done that with AP.
So yeah, she's got to get a questioning. So you've
got to be AGGRESSI if you can't, if you sit back,
you'll your question will never be answer.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, exactly right. Well, we used to call her eMac
when she was working. I think maybe I was the
one to give her that nickname, but you should eMac
on the scene and finally a reactions puur in as
Jimmy Kimmel returns to ABC. They say it's a win
for free speech, and actually, to me, it's like they

(08:53):
finally showed us what indefinite means.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
It's indefinite until my mind.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, but here's the deal. Even though Disney and ABC
are gonna do it, you know, some of the Sinclair
stations are still refusing to run the show, including the
one in Washington, d C. Their flagship station Channel seven
w j l A. They're not going to show. Yeah, so,
oh man, there go seven on your side.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Huh, they're not on Jimmy's side.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
They're not on Jimmy side. But but but Kevin, you
know that because you're in Washington, d C. And Channel ten.
Uh I get Channel seven, I should say, yeah, Channel seven.
Donald Trump's in the White House and he's probably Washington.
You're probably watching Sinclair because they're part of his team.
Of course, you know, so they're not going to show
that to upset him because then you know they got

(09:43):
a phone call. Why are you doing this? He's not
on our side.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, he'll seven side right there to the building right.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Remind me once this this radio station owner he didn't
like the song Juicy Fruit, and he came into the
studio and told the t to stop it right now
in the middle of Yes, that was a great song, man, Yeah,
but he didn't. He didn't like it. I'll just give
his name. He's no longer with us. It's Willie Davis.
Used to play for Grambling and his radio station in

(10:13):
La ka Ce. So what we did we played that
song to death just to mess with them because they
we know they couldn't play it.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Wow. Man, hey, Well and.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Before you go there. One more thing though, it's gonna
take place today that we got to watch over that.
Donald Trump's going to speak before the United Nations, Kevin,
as we told you yesterday that several of these countries
are now recognizing the Palestinian state. So they're going to
see what he says about that, because he's usually if
one country does it, you know, does anything like like
he threatened India because India is buying oil from Russia.

(10:46):
But now with all these countries teaming up to say
that we need a Palestinian state, he's got to respond
to that or see how he responds. So people be
watching that in the news today. He's going to speak
this morning.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
By the way, Yeah, we're all jumping at the bits
to hear it once again from President Trump. What's he
gonna say? Man, tell you thanks for your time. Carl Amen.
It's uh, you know, twelve six twelve, and it is
the twenty third of September. This Tuesday. We've got brother
Dariel Muhammad's dandy belly.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
All right, Salama Lek and brother Dyrell, welcome back to
the program.

Speaker 5 (11:23):
Well leacam Salamia, brother, how.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
You we're good?

Speaker 1 (11:30):
We're good?

Speaker 5 (11:34):
What everything is going on.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yes, man, there's a lot of stuff going on, but
you have something going on as well. Can you share
that with the family.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
Yes, I have another stop the killing, major event. We're
taking it down. Hayes point this upcoming Saturday from eleven o'clock.

Speaker 6 (11:54):
To eight o'clock.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
Continue to try to gavanize and spy our community to
do something for self, dear brother, and.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Tell us about this particular one. What makes this one
different from the ones you've had before?

Speaker 5 (12:09):
Well, the time and what must be done. I had
already put the permit in for September twenty seventh or
not knowing that it'd be a major occupation in Washington, DC.
And that is the beautiful thing about it. I always
speak about the Honorable Minister Lewis Farrakhan in a way,
not just spiritually, but in the work that needs to

(12:29):
be done, because he has taught us. He said, the
work is in the street with the problems, the problems.
This is not in building, and the problems not in
the mass. The problem is not in the church. The
problem is not really in organizations. The problem is amongst
the least last, in the left out, which is in
the street. So now what caused me to do that.

(12:51):
As a continuation, this is the thirtieth anniversary of the
Midion Man March, and we still talk about stopping the killing.
And it's so sad to see that. It seems like
all the work that has been going on for the
last thirty years, it looked like it's coming to knock.
But it's not, because, oh, my to God, my Lord,
here is an active will in the promissive wills. And

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one thing that I love about the honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan,
this situation is divine and we gonna have to be
forced back to recognize and listen to God. Now, Paul
said in Second Caribbeans to e eleven, be not ignorant
of Satan's schemes. And it always seemed, you know, like

(13:34):
we keep taking major blows. And the reason, called brother,
it is that we are not prepared. It always see
seem like we take major blows. Sometimes you can roll
with the bunch because.

Speaker 6 (13:46):
You've prepared like a boxer.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
But it always seemed like we don't know the next
step that this enemy is doing. Because we have divine
leadership in our country and we can't think of Lord
enough for the young woman's little Farrakon, because he is
three years ago that we were at war, you see,
and we treating.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
This man like a pretty song. He says what needs
to be said.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
As the Christ and the Messiah, we him, but we're
not preparing ourselves. So when Paul said be not ignorant
of Satan's schemes, that means in order to prepare, we
have to study our enemies before.

Speaker 6 (14:28):
They attacked.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
Meaning Brother called, we have to understand the equipment that
he has. We have to understand the weapons that he has,
and we have to understand how this man fights. I
heard brother talking about the legacy of Mara Bowsa. I
don't know what her legacy gonna be as a politician
because at the end of the day, I always mentioned

(14:53):
that we are in the most dry Tonian Satanic city
in the annals of history. We have the White House,
pin the gone and we have the capital which affects
the whole world. So you have to have a mind.
Do you have to have the spirit? Do you have
to have supreme goddess and warning to warn the world.

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So the average politician does not have that. This is
why the Bible said they're safety in the multitude of counsel.
So the question is who is counseling her and others
at a time like this. So if Paul said be
not ignorant, that means to not know Satan's schemes. We

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have to be prepared. And there's nobody that I see
even for the last seventy.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Years right there, Brother Tyrel. We've gotta step aside for
a few moments and we come back though. Tell us
about the start the Killing program that you have at
Haines's point coming up on this weekend, and what with
the presence of these troops on the streets of Washington,
DC to impact what you're doing, Will that stop people
from coming? Are they cutting the crime? Are they cutting
into what you're trying to achieve. I'll let you report

(16:06):
on that when we get back. It's seventeen after the top.
They our family just waking up. Our guess his brother,
Direl Mohammed from Washington, DC, talking about a stop the
Killing program is having this weekend. You want to join
the conversation, reach out to us at eight hundred four
to five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take
a phone calls next and Grand Rising family. Thanks for
waking up with us on this Tuesday morning twenty minutes
after the top of the with our guest brother Direl Mohammed,

(16:28):
Brother Darrell, he's on a crusade to stop the crime
in Washington, DC. Is having another event at Haines's Point
this weekend. Actually it's going to be on Saturday, and
we're giving more information by that way. It's what time
it starts and all of that and who's going to
be there. But my question to him, because of Donald
Trump's put all these troops on the streets of the district,

(16:48):
is what you're doing is it counterproductive to what you're doing?
Is what is it working? Or you're saying it's not working,
that's why you need to have your event? Can you
explain that for us?

Speaker 5 (16:57):
Well, we was already in progress. Remember we've been doing
to stop the killing for the last five years, and
we started in the high school five years ago. Brother called.
So it's not like we just started stopped the killing
events or having events because he came. Like I said earlier,
we had already had a September to twenty seventh eight Anyway,
from the last time Mike came, Mike Epps, our brother

(17:21):
stopped and made the twenty fifth of this year, he
came up Malcolm X Marinian, he'll park up northwest. So
this is a continuation of that, and we usually try
to do something every two months or ninety days to
galvanize and spy of people. Now, to answer the question,
it's no doubt about it being out there called standing
between because I'm on the southeast side now of Washington, DC,

(17:44):
Malcolm X Junior, Martin Louther King Avenue, Malcolm X and
is off the chain. It's no doubt about it because
they coming through there every night, five and six times.
They got a park right there, and they come through
and they're not playing. They trying to instigate these and
irritate these little brothers because from the looks of it.

Speaker 6 (18:06):
Are empirically speaking, they.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
Trying to irritate them to fire a shot if they
can justify what's in their mind or the order that
they have been given. This is why we have to
get out in the street and educate and engage these
young men, because that's a federal pop No one is
more so in the street engaging these young men to

(18:30):
stay off of federal property. Say they're targeting to fed
federal properties first, and when they catch them in that park,
whatever they catch them with is a federal case. So
I had several conversations with certain lawyers down six thirty
three to Public Fender's office, and I'm asking, are y'all
prepared to take these cases? Because the DC jail is

(18:51):
already filled up and the gcjail already filled up. They mean,
they're gonna be sending these young brothers all over the
country to house them. And if they send them all
over the country to house them, who is going to
represent them?

Speaker 6 (19:02):
Now?

Speaker 5 (19:03):
I have a attorney in my former attorney, brother Kenneth
Page three weeks ago told me. He said, brother, it's
off the chained down the judiciary system, super your court
because people were stuck over the DC jail within nine
of cases by the hundreds, and the court system, the
judges had to try to advocate for the law students

(19:26):
that's in law school to represent them. It's just that bad,
you wit, and I wouldn't know it tatting in now,
damn billsness.

Speaker 6 (19:35):
So there's an occupation.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
Going on, and you mentioned what we was doing prior. Now.
The beautiful thing about it is, as the Holy Quran
says in chapter thirteen, verse eleven. That God changes not
the condition of his people until they change themselves. Actually,
they have waken up certain sectors of our communities in Washington, DC.

(19:56):
So you mentioned who is coming down just upcoming Saturday.
Then you have the centif ratio and justity quality, you
have the Congressional Action Network, you have the Fellowship of Reconciliation,
and you have to wash the into Faith network. You
even had.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
The Shoes for Justice.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
I said, wow. They say, well, you know, it's our
cyberth Saturday, but if we can get out of it,
we'll come down. And I'm telling them straight up, which
seem you does. We're not no political organization. This is
a five wall on one see and it's no doubt
I'm a follow up the most honorably Lojah Mohammad under
the buying leadership of the honorable min As the Lituis Farrakhan.

(20:38):
I'm not going enough of to not nobody's help, but
you not coming around me and us to you shirt
whatever in your mind. If that's the case, if you're
going to support our people at this time, then you
really need to support our people a lot of times
right now financially because there was a one point one
billion dollars that Congress book out of this economy.

Speaker 6 (21:00):
So me being in the street.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
How people are suffering is a fever pitch, brother, because
this stuff is unsustainable, what's transpired, and you're dealing with
a wicked satanic wise mine. And that's why I use
the word the honorable men is the lord for corn.
The average negro is not gonna be the do no
with no Donald Trump?

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Right. And let me jump here and ask you this though,
because we're talking about young people and you said that
you've missed shoot what you said? You think some of
these troops there to irritate or to cajole are young
people into some sort of altercation with these troops? And
so I'm asking because at one point the mayor talked
about having curfews. Do you think curfews would work to

(21:41):
keep our young people off the streets at certain times?
And I so they won't, you know, fall prey to
some of the traps that some of these troops may
be setting for them, trying to get them to have
some sort of altercation with the troops. What were your
thoughts on a curfew?

Speaker 5 (21:55):
Well, hell no, and I'm gonna tell you why I
was so friber gathered and taking it back last weekend.
We still don't understand the time and what needs to
be done. They had all night go go all over Washington,
DC last Saturday, and I'm saying to myself, I'm on
Martin Luther King Avenue standing between these young brothers in
this occupation, FBI, atf Homeland Security, Metropolitan Police. I'm standing

(22:19):
this every night, ruh. And this is why I can
report to you, not what nobody is telling me. I'm
standing between it, and I'm watching our young brothers and
sisters go to the pavilion, They going to the liquor store,
getting there, alcohol going down. I guess they want to relieve.
But I'm saying to myself, she don't have a clue

(22:40):
what's going on. Whoever advising this woman or if she's
taking their advice, don't you know how dangerous that is.
I'm watching these people move around, how young people, as
they go into these all night go gos, and I'm saying,
you putting their people in death way, not how way

(23:00):
I'm looking, And I'm saying, this is amazing.

Speaker 6 (23:03):
If nothing else.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
You don't stop that, but you put them in an
environment you don't have them come outside. You have to
thought they to put them and build this convention centers.
You have to protect your people. So they setting up
all trying to roll blocks in Washington, DC, all over
the city. And I'm saying to myself, Okay, what the

(23:26):
hell is this? See because we can say one thing,
this why I don't trust politicians. We say one thing.
I'm watching the action because words are beautiful, but actually
in this supreme Brother Paul, it hurts me to my
heart to see what's transfined because.

Speaker 6 (23:41):
The city is lefting leadership.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
I'm kidding them about No politicians don't care too much
about them, because I know it's not gonna take a
police or policy to get us out of this condition.
The community to learn amongst us gonna have to serve
the least last and then left out. And until that happens,
we're going to keep staying in this condition.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
Is just what it is, all right?

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Family, Just waking up twenty eight out the top down
with Direl Mouhammed. He's having to stop the killing event
taking place this Saturday at Hayin's Point in Washington, d C.
And he's been he's been on a crusade for question
time now trying to stop the creature reach it, trying
to reach our young people. They start out with the
high schools around the district, trying to keep a young
people from getting into trouble. And now the situation has

(24:26):
changed now that Donald Trump has put troops on the
streets of Washington, d C. For for the folks who
are thinking about attending, because you know, uh, brother, diaryl
youve got some people in the district they don't go
out as much because they just don't want to deal
with it, with that tension. We're seeing all these troops
and officers and patrolling and there's so many law enforms
and agencies patrolling the streets of Washington, d C. These days.

(24:48):
Even said some of the restaurants are losing money because
people just don't want to go out, just don't want
to even you know, just deal with that kind of stuff.
What sort of contingency plans do you have for your
event that's taking place this uh, this Saturday. What sort
of warnings do you have for your people who want
to attend? How can they bypass this and how do
they deal with that because they're gonna have to. They're
probably going to run into some of these troops on

(25:08):
the way to your event at Haines' Point.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
Well, first and foremost, I always strategically, I just don't
go in these play places have pasty. I always sit
back with us, learned amongst us and say okay with
part of the city. We going down Haynes Point for
a reason. Haines Point is a few miles from the
White House, Capital, the monument and everything were going down.

(25:31):
The reason that we're going down there is we have
and we used to go down Haynes Point to just
get away from everything before all this stuff got out
of hand. And I said to myself after we left
Malcolm X Park the same way we used to go
at Malcolm X's Park, I learned to play football up there.
I go to these paces for a reason. I say, well,
let's get out of the city this time and just

(25:53):
go back because Haineses Point there is a dog book.
We used to go down as a people, just go
down Haynes Point. It just get away, gets your blankets,
had your own food, fish. We used to just go
just to get away from everything. So I've decided to
go down Hands Point prior to all of this transpired.
Now every event that I have is heavily secured, heavily

(26:17):
and this is why we be at these places nine
to twelve hours. You don't even have an argument because
one thing that our people know, when it comes down
the stuff that we're doing, we're going to ask you
to come support. There's resources, food and other things like that,
but don't bring that here. And the reason that we

(26:39):
have been blessed to do it because we serve. We
service brother of our people. So when you engage and
talk to your people, they can tell if you genuine
and sincere. Once again, when I get off your show,
I'll be back over southeast again again call And that's
what it takes.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
It takes tommit.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
And one thing about our people, as crazy as they are,
they don't want to know who you are. They want
to know if you care. So it's going to be securitis,
no doubt about that. When we go down there, God
will it Saturday. The only good thing about it now,
and I mentioned is the right people coming around, not

(27:22):
just for a platform, but the condition is.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
Causing our people. I'll be there.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
I'll be there, and it always have to take a condition. Now,
the thing for me is not to have these events
because I'm going to ask the people. Okay, look like
I mentioned those organizations that's going to be there, Okay Monday, Monday,
what community are we going in because that's where the
real work at is. That's having celebrations and having events.

(27:47):
The problems in the street. And until we can address
these problems. Once again, you have all the killing because
there's a mental health crisis. Now you got the lack
of jobs. The crime is going to go up because
they're not reporting it statistically like that they just steal,
car jacking, they still robbing, they still going in stores.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
All of that still transpired.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
Be so Mary Balsa got her statistics, Trump got his.
But when you in the street like that, you see
the people hurting.

Speaker 7 (28:17):
You know.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
So, Okay, there's mental health crisis, there's a job crisis.

Speaker 6 (28:21):
There's a death of property.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
I said and tall, this was amazing. It's a system
named Melissa Hall this month the fifth and inviting me
down the National Baptist Church on fourteenth gin Our Street,
Northwest and I went on a podcast and it was
so disappointing for me. The sister I did my research.

(28:46):
She have a new podcast of wealth and he and and.

Speaker 6 (28:53):
Workout.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
She got one of those just basic podcasts. She gets
me on a podcast to pull out phone and I
can see what she's going at. She's highlighting the statistics
that all the crime amongst our young people. And I
let her go. And after she finished, I said, well,
you have to be extremely careful ms Harg because the

(29:17):
good guy in the bad guy the kids who writes
the story. I said, you pulling up your statistics, splutting
them out in the street every day, and you have
to be very careful that you're not an instrument for
people and using you as a vessel to highlight those
statistics to destroy our community. And after about fifteen minutes

(29:37):
she kicked me off for a show. I get a
call two days later from Miss Petitious Fields that invited
me on the show and said that the MAGA movement
had a problem with me not announcing our young people
in Maribosa. That's what we don't do. That's what Nigroes do.
You know, we get microphones and get in front of
these cameras and they uses us to announced our own people.

(30:01):
I called her, uh and I told her, you know,
I don't have no problem with answering the questions, but
don't allow yourself to be used as a vessel because
the end of it, you don't have a clue what's
going on the street. You you you deal with health
and wellness, but you asking me about the crime just
trans find amongst our young people. So that's what's going on.

(30:24):
We're just taking the.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Vantage well done to a drive by. What was her
response when you pointed that out? When you you know,
you gave her that a sage advice and you know,
don't be used because that's really how the system of
racist and white supremacy works, gets us to attack each other.
And they said back and watch. So when you explain
that to her brother diary el, what did she say?

Speaker 5 (30:43):
She couldn't say nothing because if Mega Trump people got
a problem with what I favored, then that's who you
was working for. And see, I'm gonna tell you something.
Or the honorable minutes of Lewis Ferrith, they taught us militarily.
That's why I use be not ignorant of Satan's schemes.
Got listen with a discerned and I knew where she
was going at She pulled up them statistics we lie

(31:05):
and I'm listening and I'm warning her the good guy
and the bad guy, the cans on Wood rights to
stalk me, and I'm wanting her to stop, honestly, and
I say, after a while, okay, we ain't doing that.
We're not doing that.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
Not that right there, they.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
Am letting her know live on her show. You the
enemy of these enemy of our people playing these games.
You try to get into space, you see, and that's
what's going on. These talking heads. They don't know nothing
about your profession. Brother, And if you go through Facebook,
I'm watching all of these fake Facebook stops. I'm saying
that this is something you don't have a clue what's

(31:39):
going on in the street or in the world because
you're getting on these platforms. You don't know what they
hear you're talking about. So it's dangerous because one thing
that I learned, I half learned, person is dangerous.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, and smart enough for you to point that out.
But let me ask ask you this. Though you're having
an event and I'm looking at the clock. He let
you respond, we when we have to, we check the
news and Clifford CONNECTU also got a question for you.
But you're having an event at Haines Park in the
district on Saturday. You already announced it, so many of
our people are going to show up. Are you concerned

(32:13):
because the enemy knows the troops are going to be
out there, they'll probably try to stop people on their
way to your event. Is that a concern for you?
Or do you have a message to your people who
were all the people who want to come and support
your event on Saturday because you already said you're going
to tell the time and it's going to be there.
I know you know they're listening right now, so they're
going to have their folks out there stopping people on

(32:35):
the way to your event? Is that a concern for you?
And I let you respond to that. When we finished
checking the latest news, Family, you two can join our
conversation with Brother Diarrel Muhammad. Reach out to us at
eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six
and we'll take your phone calls us we get caught
up in the latest news trafficking weather in our different cities.
Next and Grand Rising family, thanks for waking up with
us on this Tuesday morning with our guest, Brother Diarrel Mohammed,

(32:57):
Brother Direl is having a start the Killing event. This
tak place at Haines Point in Southwest DC on Saturday.
Before we go back to you, now, let me just
remind you come up later this morning. You've got to
hear from another Washington Antonia and they'll be Reverend Willie
Wilson is going to reflect on the thirtieth anniversary of
the Million Man March and also the forty third anniversary
of the unifest And following him or yeah, following him,

(33:21):
we're going to hear from Gavies, Brother Seango by Am
and Boba m Otip. They're going to preview these week's
race first convention that's going to take place in Baltimore.
And we're going to close out with Brother Zaki Brudy.
He's going to introduce us to the group's ambassador to
the Gambia. And later this week you're in here from
Critical Thinking expert, doctor David Horn will be here also
it's a reparations advocate. Also clinical psychologist doctor Droi Dagruel

(33:43):
join us and afrocology professor doctor No Dove will also
be here. So if you are in Baltimore, make sure
you keep you radio locked in tight. On ten ten
WLB or if you're in the DMV, we're on FM
ninety five point nine at am fourteen fifteen w L.
All right, brother Darrell, I mentioned before we let for
the news update, the fact that you have this event,
it's already broadcast. You have this event, and we know

(34:04):
they got troops all over Washington, d C. Do you
think they are strategically going to be play some of
these folks knowing who are coming to your event and
maybe just you know, I wouldn't say use the word
term of rasp, but to stop them on their way
to your event is going to be placed on Saturday.
Have you told your people to be aware that they
may be stopped on the way to the event.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
Yeah, there's no doubt about it. The Holy Grand in
chapter seventy four, verse too, it is a rise and warn.
This is the reason that we have to be out
in the street every day because engaging and talking to
our people every day you also in that conversation and
warning them and guiding them about the danger which all
of us have to live. So we've been on social media,
we passing flyers hundreds of that not hundreds of thousands,

(34:47):
of thousands of fliers out in us passing those fliers
are we warned them to guide now people, because at
the end of the day, it's not more so the
enemy that you see. It's the internal enemy, as the
old Garan taught and teach us about. And this is
why David Desamer said, it was my old familiar friend
who I sat down and broke bread with, lifted up
these heels against me. So they have foxies now and

(35:10):
they always have had foxies because every organization, every church,
every mass is infiltrated with these people. So we got
to be extremely wise in this day to know how
he comes. He's not going to come outright like he does.

Speaker 6 (35:26):
He's wiser than that.

Speaker 5 (35:27):
This is how he overcomes countries is easy.

Speaker 6 (35:31):
So the thing for me is as a follower.

Speaker 5 (35:33):
Of the most honorable Logea Muhammads under divine leadership of
Yar Women's with Eric and we are trained to deeple
break all opposition this in our path. So the thing
for me is, I'm not I don't see these people
like that. My thought process truth bees Pold Donald Trump
and his administration and what he's doing really is not
in my thought process. My thought press thought process is

(35:57):
following the instructions that the Honorable Minister Louis Furykhon has
given us. This is one of the reasons that he's silenced,
because silence makes no mistakes. So I'm not by the
least worried about him or what he does or think
that he does or can do. Because at the end
of the day, there's a God and he didn't come.

(36:20):
He's present and he came. And the person that master
far Muhammed, he ain't come, he's present. So the thing
for me is I'm living under that danger every now
and then, cause I hint at what I am dealing with. Anyway,
we didn't raise all the money brothers haveing received a
grant because the love and support of our people of
what we're doing. This is why we cannot stop it.

(36:43):
And as I'm going and we raising money, people is
going behind us, trying to stop us from getting money to.

Speaker 6 (36:49):
Do this work.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
See, and you got it's sad, but it's just what
it is. All our skin folk ain't kinfolk. You got
a man running for mayor, there's a government informant with
a koran.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
In his hand.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
Everybody knows he's working with the woman squad.

Speaker 6 (37:06):
That's why I used this.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
Particular kind of language. You know it's dangerous, right man.
You just to know who's around you, brother, And this
is why Jesus, when he chose the twelve Disciples, he
knew that Judas would do what he did. He knew
that the other disciples would run. He knew that John
would walk with him through the cross. Then this is

(37:29):
why when he sat and prayed with him and broke
bread with him, Jesus said, one of you.

Speaker 6 (37:34):
Is a devil. So Jesus show he chose.

Speaker 8 (37:39):
Paul.

Speaker 9 (37:40):
Why is he chose right there?

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Hold on though, right there? Because you're racing o'clock again.
Now it's thirteen away from the top of the out
and Cliff is calling from Connecticut that has a question
for you. He's online too, Grand Rising Cliff, You're only brother.

Speaker 10 (37:52):
Diaryel hey, Grandpresident, Brother Carl, this should be one I understand,
and Grand Resident brother, THAT'SI I'm malayam for the moment.
I understand that she said, you want to focus pretty
much on the word of the Honoral Minister Lewis Phary Coon,
But I just want to get your thought. Did you
do you have any thoughts or any observation on this

(38:12):
Charlie Kirk and that memorial service, particularly as he was
appealing and tried to attract a lot of youth under Christianity.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
You have any thoughts on that, brother, Yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
Do, And this is why I mentioned the woman's Lord
Pharay Khan. He says stay away from that. He for
us to stay away from that. You're dealing with a
dangerous man and if you're not following divine guidance, this
man would charge all of us with sedition. Brother, You
see what kind of sick individual what we're dealing with.
I ain't thinking about Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 6 (38:43):
You know who he was.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
We know who he was.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
So we can't get our focus off the least last
in the left out, which of our people, Because our people,
it's living in danger. And if we don't go out
there to warn them, to guide them out of this danger,
their blood going to be on our hand. I don't
think about Charlick.

Speaker 11 (39:01):
Sir, Not one of them.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
We got themis people chemic.

Speaker 10 (39:07):
This last point to see if you agree with what
I saw, Brother Karl and Brother Muhammad, was just do
Charlie Kirk raised and try to galvanize a multitude a
whole army full of white supremacists under Christianity, because the
main target was to target and its comments were to

(39:29):
target black people. So the point I'm making in comparison
to our youth, in comparison to those youths. But the
only thing I can say in comparison to those individuals
that Charlie Kirk has rised.

Speaker 12 (39:44):
Would be the youth in the Nation of Islam. Bro
I can tell you what nobody, nobody would even think
about attacking the Nation of Islam and its members, the
way they carry themselves, their ideology, they are so so
much intact.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Brother.

Speaker 10 (40:01):
So I'm just making a comparison in terms of us,
in terms of Christianity. Look at those true Christians and
their whole idea is to raise a white nation with
their white Jesus Broh, I'm dene with Christianity as a
black man. I'm going to the nation in Islam, especially
thinking my car operated.

Speaker 6 (40:19):
With too la.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
All praise be to a law and in conjunction with that,
dear brother, look at it from this perspective. You study
Baltimore Mamma Ma's number six with brother Salaam, Minister student,
Minister Salam, and that wonderful captain out there in Baltimore
day in the street every day, and who are they
talking in? They talking in what you just said, the youth, brother,

(40:43):
Because at the end of the day, we have to
be very, very careful. That's why the divine gods so important.
When I mentioned the Honorable Minister Louis Fhara Khan, seeing
this is the beautiful thing about it, because sometimes I
got to explain it. Islam is a world, but in
the world that Islam is a religion, and that's where
we make the mistake at Jewish puted science, astronomy. We're

(41:07):
living in the world system of governments. So as a Muslim,
you study every system. That's why I have five college
degree and that's why I can go into universities and
without even mentioning anything about the.

Speaker 6 (41:18):
Holy Koran or Bible.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
But the point that I'm making is, Okay, let them
people do what they have to do brouh, but we
have to be And that's why I keep talking about
the work of us, the work of us, the work
of us, because we can talk about what they're doing,
but are we doing any work.

Speaker 6 (41:32):
With our youths.

Speaker 5 (41:34):
That's the key. We can't leave our youth because you
look at how young people me and calls talks about
it almost every time I'm on the show. Is off
the chain. They're killing at twelve, thirteen, and fourteen years
of age, brother, and this generation it almost seems that
they don't have nothing to pass on to the next generation,
and we sit back and criticize them.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, let me jump in here because we raise the clock.
I had a question for you eight minutes away from
the top of our family. Just wake up daryre L
Muhammedi's I guess he's having an event Stop the killing
events going to take place at the Haines Point Saturday
in Washington, d C. Southwest DC. And the question is,
though we talk about the results instead of talking about solutions, brother, dyreel,
why are they doing what they're doing? Is this something

(42:16):
that needs to be addressed Instead you're trying to tell
young people to put the guns down and stop shooting
at each other. Shouldn't we try to figure out why
they do what they do?

Speaker 5 (42:25):
Yes, no doubt about it. And we started to stop
the killing for a summit in the high schools because
of what we're talking about right now. That's what a
problem at Right now, I'm watching six seventy year old
cussing like failers. I'm watching them unattended by either their
brothers or sisters or their communities, so they left out

(42:46):
there on their own. But all we can do is
talking about it without someming with a divine or solution
to engage with our young peoples, because I keep saying
it all is like a doctor trying to diagnose a
patient that he never seen. I say, hey, you're gonna
tell me about these young people. You haven't even went
out and talked to them. You don't even know even
know what's on their mind. What their problems is they

(43:08):
frustrated is a lack of trust because everybody that comes
to them always wants something from them and never fulfill
the promise that they gave. I hear it every day.
That's why we have to continue to go back to
the streets with them every day.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Right another point right there, brother diarl, So are they
telling you it's a lack of mistrust? Are they blaming
the older generation their parents and grandparents are blaming us
the adults or the I guess the older folks you know,
or what is the reason you know? Because you know
most of them are confused. Why would you do? Why
why some of our you know, grandparents are scared to

(43:49):
go on a certain streets. So you know, we know
what we're talking about. We know what the end product is,
but what's the cause? Why do they do what they do?
And I ask my question, what do they say when
you ask them that?

Speaker 5 (44:00):
Well, one of the problems with them is is the
lack of trust and they don't see no kind of
examples like that because a child future is shaped by
the world of their parents, and a lot of our
people was unprepared in having these children. So if they
was unprepared in having these children, we don't really know

(44:21):
how to be parents. That's why I mentioned the brother
out in Baltimore with our young men, a student captain
brother Andrew. He does a marvelous job.

Speaker 6 (44:33):
Five or six days a week because that's what it takes,
and that's what it takes.

Speaker 5 (44:39):
You know that the mind don't understand the consequences of
his action to it reaches twenty five years of age.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
But here's what I'm drilling down on why they do
what they do, because if we know why they do,
the solution is right there. It doesn't take Captain Andrew
and Baltimore or U in DC. It takes the rest
of us, you know, maybe the solution is reason and
the rest of us all across the country with our
young people. That's where I'm going. And what can we
say to them so they'll stop that.

Speaker 5 (45:07):
Well, first of all, one size don't fit all. Calling
you absolutely right, you have to go to them.

Speaker 6 (45:12):
It's like the doctor.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
When you go to the doctor, the first thing he
acts you was wrong. That's the first thing he acts you.
As he actioning you was wrong, he's taking your blood pressure.
So it's not one size that fit all with our people.
Because that's why when you go out and engage them,
you can come with all the solutions you want. But
if the lock don't fix the key, or the key
don't fit the number, it won't open. So I can't

(45:33):
definitively tear you. I'm telling you. What they're telling me
is a lack of trust naturally in the home because
our young keeper right now, the materialistic on these shoes
and fake wigs and eyelashes, that's guiding them. And then
they following the rappers because the parents have not engaged

(45:55):
with their children properly, so they following the rappers call
it be and go overal. They following the rappers, right,
They following the music.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
The drill music that I know for sure.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
So you know that.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
So so how do we turn that around? How can
how can we change that that that those events around
with with those you know that's influencing our young people
the entertainment that they could uh you know doing dealing
with today. How can we turn that around and provide
some positive entertainment for them?

Speaker 5 (46:24):
Well, what we have to do is stop making making
conscious rap again here.

Speaker 13 (46:28):
That's all.

Speaker 5 (46:29):
Just stop making it hip. If you got to do
it out of your trumpet room, you no record labels.
Master peing them showed us that you don't really need
no record record. You've got to put the work in
and stop making uh the conscious rap with the beats
that you know that they like. And that's the key
more than anything else from the from the industry perspective.
And this is why Kendler lamar out there and is

(46:51):
doing a magnificent job.

Speaker 6 (46:54):
I studied it. I watched. That's why he's patting them.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
He's coming and he's bringing that message into the music
like that he just tapped into something because he's conscious
out there. He's a conscious wrapper.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Hold us all right there, Brother Diarrel three away from
the top. We're gonna check the traffic and weather in
our different cities when we come back. Brother Tyrone in
Baltimore has a question for you. Family, YouTube can join
our discussion with Direl Mohammadi's peacekeeper in Washington, d c.
Reach out to us at eight hundred four five zero
seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls
after the trafficking weather together. That's next, And Grand Rising family,

(47:27):
thanks for starting your Tuesday with us. We have a
brother Direl Mohammad for with us this morning. He's having
to stop the killing event taking plate as heinz Point
on Saturday. And momentary Reverend Willie Wilson from Union Temble
Baptist Truch is gonna draw us. But Tyrone, as I mentioned,
Brother Tyrone's calling from Baltimore, has a question or a
comment for a brother Darrel. So, Brother Tyrone, Grand Rising,

(47:48):
you're on with Direl Mohammad.

Speaker 14 (47:50):
Yeah. On my experience with young people, all right, and uh,
but let me just say I got it. I have friends.
Her name is Judge Pastore and what she is. She
has a program where she was started saying the young
black men come to her and change, and she asked them,

(48:12):
you know why you keep coming, I'm not saying for
the other reason. She asked them, why do you get
come from here? I'm just gonna give you more times
this right after Fregrate riots, and they said to her,
we can't get jobs because we have priminal records, and
she didn't believe it. So what she did was she
went on her own and checked it out all the
places they checked for jobs and said, yeah, we're not
hire them. They sold drugs, they did this, they did that.
We're not gonna hide your people. And so she got

(48:34):
these on her own. Well to helping the government. She
got all these employers and said, look, we're gonna try
and start kind these young black people because I'm tired
of see them something to me in changed. I'm sure
they will be your most lloyal employers. So that's the
speed up. The years later and she has a ninety
six percent success rate. We'll get people out of the
life of the time, all right. Her resislian rated I'm

(48:54):
sorry ninety three percent. Her recilians raised seven percent, and
she often. She often invites me to these graduations, and
these kids are so proud, and a lot of them
are saying that, look, it's too bad I had to
get into trouble before somebody will reach out to me.
So I'm saying that by saying that a lot of it,
you're correct. A lot of brother Darryl is correct. A
lot of them has to deal with the environment these

(49:16):
kids have grown up with. And if they don't trust you,
two things to turn the kid off to you if
they think you're scared of them and they think you don't,
or if they think you don't like them. And a
lot of us have that attitude towards the youth because
it's pumping them to us by the media. I know
where I live at Fox forty five is always talk
about how bad you know, something's gotta be done by
these black kids. They don't say black, but we get it.
And a lot of us are duped them with, you know,

(49:37):
out of the fear of our young people dupe them too,
believing that the only good thing for them is jail.
So we gotta also understand that we're being manipulated by
by the white power structures as well, and we need
to look at resources for these young people, not just
saying put the guns down, let's find out something for
them to do to make money. ONCET they put them

(49:58):
down because a lot of times when you dealing dope
with whatever you're dealing that you have something called a tool,
and they call it that tool is a guy they
and in other words, won't try to say as in
most cases they consider a gun to be nothing more
in a tool. And these drug gangs are just families
of people that you know, that look out for each
other and things of that nature. All be it a negative,

(50:18):
demonic one, but it is you know, a place where
young people feel that they could be, you know, have.

Speaker 6 (50:23):
A family like environment.

Speaker 5 (50:25):
So we got something else.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
And by other time you can put in a question
for I'm sure he can respond because we have another
guest waiting.

Speaker 14 (50:33):
My question to him would be how do we get
these these young people? And this is I'm what I'm
saying is not the whole toll end and involved in resource,
not just saying you know, you know, uh, stop doing crime,
but we got some way for you to make money
even with a coronal record, that you make decent moneys
for family that for just for yourselves.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
All right, that's a fair question. Get the chase of it.
Thank you, Brother Tyrone calling from Baltimore. All right, brotherl Well,
Brother Tyln's basically saying, if you just stop, if are
you going to stop these are young people from doing
behaving inappropriately. We've got to give him something else to do.
And he's showing my jobs or maybe the answer your response,

(51:17):
does Brother Dyreel stay with us, Kevin, if you lost
Brother Dyrol, seems like we lost Brother Dyro. All right,
then a six after the top.

Speaker 5 (51:25):
Yet absolutely, brother raised a beautiful question, and the statement
that he made is right on time with the time,
because I'm a prime example of that. I came home
with five college degrees. I had thirty five a life
with Noparo. As a matter of fact, what I didn't
mention called the brother. That's the keynote speaker. September twenty seven,

(51:48):
Trump gave him a presidential pardon. He had two light senters.
He was a professional boxer, come out of Indy Anna.
His name is Charles Tanner. Something got to give him
three hundred million for houser. I made him the keynot
speaker for a reason. We need something that money in Washington, DC. Now,
the brother is absolutely right because with these convictions, even
though we are physically home, we're realistically still locked up
because we locked out of the workforce. This is why

(52:10):
I keep talking about politicians. Marryband I forgot that I
worked directly with her Maryland for her mork A director
Lamon Curry. Everything I do and have been doing for
the last five years, I bring brother with me because
that's the only thing that I have in terms of resources.
The people's not coming to that building. So I gets
the people and take them to get those resources. Because

(52:32):
word's beautiful, but actually how people need some help. I
don't have the resources to give them. So one of
the things or names that they name me aka he's
a resource man. I'm gonna take every excuse that I
can't away from you. If I got to go pick
you up. I don't get paid for this, but I do.
I get a reward to see how people come out
of the condition, and that's why I be so passionate

(52:54):
about it.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Flat out of tud give us the details of your
vent that's taking place at Haines Point on Saturday.

Speaker 5 (53:06):
Well, it starts at eleven o'clock. We have a plaster
every hour coming out from the clergy. It's going to
represent the clergy aspect of it. Because the church got
to come out representing God. We got to get in
the community to help our community and make it a decent,
safe place to live. So we got various speakers, Lamarck

(53:27):
Curry is one of them. I got various people that's
been doing this work for a while giving them the platform.
We got free food, resources going to be their housing
and mental health because the thing for me is providing
these resources to our pupil because end of the day,
words alone it's just not going to do it. You
have to have some resources. And like the brother mentioned jobs.

(53:48):
So if there's no jobs for our people, naturally we're
gonna go back to a life of crime or commit crime.
So I'm accent the plopit sector, whether these corporation develops,
local banks or local businesses. De man damp out people.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
All right, thank you and let me just thank you
for what you're doing, because this is not the one
off for you. You've been doing this, you stop the killings.
It's starting with the school districts. The schools in the
district and been doing this trying to get our young
people to you know, just just just inappropriate involved in
inappropriate behavior, killing and shooting each other. No, I think
I just want to thank you because you've you started

(54:24):
this crusade years ago. So Brother DIARYL, thank you. Hopefully
everything works out at Haines Point. That's Ohio driving southwest
DC as he mentioned, and that's going to start eleven
o'clock on Saturday. Again, thank you, Brother Diaryl. Mohammad for
doing that.

Speaker 5 (54:38):
Thank you brother, thank you family.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
My family. Let's wring it now with Reverend Willie Wilson.
Reverend Willie Wilson. Those in the district know who. Will
Wilson is, Pastor Emeritus of the Union Temple Baptist Church,
Grand Rising Pastor Reverend Willie Wilson.

Speaker 7 (54:53):
Blessings seas in blessings to you, good brother, be with
you this morning.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Let me ask you this. So I got to ask
you this because I saw report yesterday that some people,
some religious group Christians, are saying that today is the
day of what do they call it? He'll come come
to me that the the this is the day that's
going to happen because the the rapture, Yes, and that
some of them have sold their homes, sold their cars,

(55:20):
quit their jobs, and they believe that. And they said,
but help us out right now. Rap They say, before
the rapture comes, that Christ is going to reveal the Antichrist,
and they say that Donald Trump is the Antichrist. You
may have heard this story, and this is supposed to
happen today. So just in case the rapture happens and
we don't have a chance to speak again, explain it

(55:40):
to the audience. What's going on here and what will
when is the rapture supposed to take?

Speaker 7 (55:44):
Well, let me just say this. My wife, she made
a little joke yesterday. She put a pair of shoes
on Facebook that sell for four thousand dollars and she said,
I'm a little bout these shoes. Use all these shoes
because I won't have to pay for them because the
raptures coming tomorrow. I think, you know, uh, this is

(56:07):
one of the ways that we get away from the
realities of doing what we need to do here on earth,
you know, uh, and and and and not understanding that
you know, should there be such you know, I have
some issues with it in terms of thinking. We got
a lot of our people afraid to even get on

(56:28):
the airplane. They talking about they're gonna be caught up
in the air and the Lord's gonna come in the air,
pick them up and take them on the heaven. You know. Uh,
it's just it's you know, there there's much information that
lets us know that that was something that was created
within the church hierarchy, uh to again give people false

(56:49):
hope and false promises so that they can uh get
away from what they really need to be doing right
here on earth.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
I ask you, is it true though, the before the
rapture the God's going to reveal the Antichrist? Is that
part of scripture?

Speaker 7 (57:07):
Well, you know, I don't know too much about that.
I don't relate to that too much. I can't I
can't come in.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
On it, okay, because this is what this group, this
particular group that we're talking about. They saying the rapture
is going to come today. So we weren't trying to scare.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
Anybody here, still talking, right, But.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
But you know what's interesting rap They say only a
certain number of people are going to get caught up.
That means every not everyone, is going to be caught up.
And they talk about the dead's going to be the
people who died, We're going to see him again. I mean,
I don't I'm not sure if this is biblical, the scripture,
or if this this is just made up for this
event that's supposed to take place today.

Speaker 7 (57:47):
Yeah, well, there are there are, you know, some writings
that speak to when this was created. I was going
to say, there's a lot of things that were created
about the Christian Church to put fear into people, to
make people acquiesce to what they wanted them to do.
There's a very dark side to the history of Christianity

(58:10):
in terms of the things that were done to control,
contain people, and get them to do to be allegiant
to them as the leadership of the world. You know,
when you look at the history of Christianity and what
it has done to stultify the goals and aspirations of

(58:35):
people and make them look to other than themselves, and
what they really need to be doing.

Speaker 6 (58:42):
Right here on the earth.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Gotcha thirteen at the top. Dare family just checking in.
I guess it's the Reverend Willie Wilson, the Reverend doctor
Willie Wilson. He's a pastor emeritus of Union Temple Baptist Church.
He is one of the moves and shake us in Washington,
d C. This morning. We actually called him to discuss
the anniversary of the Millie in man Marsh and be
their anniversary with the Meili in man March. He played
a pivotal role in that also the forty third anniversary
if unifester, let's start with the Millia in man March first,

(59:07):
Evan Willie Wilson, when Minister Falcon contacted you and said
he wanted to do this, put this event on, what was.

Speaker 15 (59:13):
Your response, Well, we have a relationship that goes all
the way back to nineteen ninety seven, about forty almost
fifty years, so you know when he shared division with me,
I was right right with it from the very armset.

Speaker 7 (59:29):
And began to organize and begin to work to make
it happen. I saw that as something we certainly needed
to do. As you may recall, for about a year
before the million Man invoked, the Minister went on the
stopped the killing two all over the country where I
can remember the DC Armory right here in DC. We
had about eleven thousand brothers.

Speaker 11 (59:50):
That showed up.

Speaker 7 (59:52):
That was a contagion, that was a spirit that began
to grip our community and our men mostly especially, which
ultimately resulted in coming together of almost two million black
men on the Capital Mall in nineteen ninety five.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Fifteen. At the top of that with Reverend Willie Wilson,
you mentioned a spirit and you're absolutely right, there was
a spirit in the air around the million man march.
It could it pull it off? Could the Minister fire
Count pull it off? And he did? There was there
was some sort of brotherhood, if you will, Reverend Wilson,
how did that was that part of what you guys
when you decided to, you know, to design the march?

(01:00:35):
Point was that baked into the plan? Was that part
of the plan to make it work?

Speaker 7 (01:00:39):
You know, it definitely was about unity and about coming together.
You know, I think that I would describe it as
one of delusions, talk about one of those chariotic points
in history when situations and circumstances income combined, and you know,
it had to be Almighty God, the kind of things
that we had to go through, the people who fought

(01:01:01):
against it, the opposition that we face both internally and externally.
It had to be the create it and allowed this
to happen. Now, the critical question becomes, why did to
create allowed this to happen. I would say that to
show us what we can do when we come together unity.
As you know, and recall that was a day with

(01:01:23):
all those millions of black men out there, that hundreds
of thousands of black men out there, there was not
one single incident. Love, unity, sense of community, brotherhood, just
consume the entire environment out there. And I think that
the impetus from that says to us what we can do.

(01:01:47):
And that's one reason why I have called for this
regional celebration of the Million Man Lunch and Unifiss, both
of which two iconic legacies that brought people together without
any negativity, without any vioalance, without anything but good love
and fellowship.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Right and hold that though, right there, rev they got
to step us out for a few minus. When we
come back, though, tell us why you decided to it's because,
of course you're going to celebrate if you will. Maybe
that's not the right word. The thirtieth anniversary of the
Malee Man March and the forty third anniversary of the
unifestor for the folks outside the district who we're not
familiar with, the u interfestor, I need you to explain
that as well. Eighteen minutes after the top there, family,

(01:02:27):
you want to join this conversation, Reverend Willie Wilson, reach
out to us at eight hundred four five zero seventy
eight seventy six and we'll take a phone calls next
and grind rising family, and thanks for starting your Tuesday
with us. I guess he's the Reverend Willie Wilson, Reverend
doctor Willie Wilson from Union Temple Baptist Church. He's the
pastor America said that church. He pastor that church for
quite some time. It's a landmark in Washington, d C.

(01:02:49):
Twelve twenty five W Street in the southeast section of
the district. And what Reverend Wilson is doing is reflecting
on the thirtieth anniversary of the Malee Man March. And
many of us know that about the millionaire in March,
but the forty third anniversary of Unifest. So, Reverend Wilson,
can you for the folks you're not Ima jess Chak
or you probaquet on the lake side, this guy here

(01:03:10):
a few years ago, can you explain what Unifest is?

Speaker 7 (01:03:13):
Well, Unifes brought the same kind of spirit that the
media man March did We did it for any number
of years here in Washington, DC. In fact, it was
the largest festival in Washington, d C. We had upplos
of one hundred thousand people to attend over a two
day span. Every day I think the second weekend in June.

(01:03:34):
Every year we had it. But again the same spirit
of the Million Man March, where we brought our people
together in a spirit of love and unity and community.
And one of the reasons that I'm I'm bringing those
two together is we're talking about two historic legacies and

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both of which brought hope, brought faith, brought community, brought
unity in our community. And this is so sorely needed
at this point in time in our community and across
this nation as or we face all of the problems
and conditions and situations that are afflicting our community and

(01:04:20):
our people, and at the top of the list is
a lack of community and a lack of unity. So
putting these two together, that's what we're about. We're talking
about as we did in nineteen ninety five, We're talking
about atonement, We're talking about reconciliation. As the brother who
just went off a few moments ago, stopping the violence,

(01:04:42):
all of this. Of course, when you look at all
of this, you know one of the keys doctor Wilson
talks is about this in our Isis papers that she
talked about white supremacy, talked about the way to combat
that whitepremacy. One of the ways is through racial pride
and a sense of community. Now, when you look at it,

(01:05:06):
there's a study that's been has been done since nineteen
seventy two that the Psychological Historical Review is a publication
that was started at Harvard then to Columbia University.

Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
It's still in existence.

Speaker 7 (01:05:19):
What they found is that and I quote, the antidote
to black owned black homicide is a sense of racial pride.
And it is to be noted that following the Black
Conscious movement, the Black Awareness movement, black power movement, that
was a significant decline in black on black homicide. Same

(01:05:43):
thing with the Medium Man Munch, after the Manion Man months,
that was a downturn into violence because there was a
sense and a feeling of community of brotherhood. I want
to rekindle that spirit. If we can recondu that spirit,
much has been done.

Speaker 6 (01:06:00):
To destroy the black family.

Speaker 7 (01:06:04):
We talk about maths and conserration, we talk about the
crack epidemic, we talk about even integration. If you look
at that, you're talking about three major situations that absolutely
riddle the black family and the black community.

Speaker 6 (01:06:20):
We lost.

Speaker 7 (01:06:21):
When you talk about going from three hundred thousand black
men inconcerated in nineteen seventy two, that jumped to that
number jumped from three hundred thousand to two point three billion,
most of them black and brown men. When you take
doctor Wellson said some time ago, when you take one

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man out of the community, it can be devastating. When
you start talking about hundreds of thousand, yay even millions
out of the community, you know what that has done
to our community. So we're trying to bring all of
that together. We've got community organizations, we got the Divine Nine,
we got our religious community working with our Muslim brothers

(01:07:07):
and sisters, and we're excited about it because the response
has been just overwhelming. Because our people were looking for,
waiting for something that happened to bring us together. It
didn't happen overnight that we got so splintered as a community.
It's not going to be corrected overnight, but we've got
to start somewhere. We're going to be doing some after

(01:07:31):
events related to this, for example, as they try to
erase our history. There is no need for us to
depend on someone else to teach our history. So we're
going to be organized, and we're getting some of our
educators together to develop a curriculum so that in our
churches and in our organizations, we can teach our own

(01:07:51):
history to our own children. And I think that when
we understand the importance of knowledge of self. I remember
going over to Anacostia High School right in the heart
of Anacostia a few years ago Teach America program. People
that don't look like us are supposingly teaching our children.

(01:08:12):
And they say, oh, we got these delinquents. We got
about sixty of them. They don't even come to school.
I said, well, tell them that Reverend Wilson is going
to be here next Thursday and see if they come.
Those brothers came before they took their coats off. It
was in the dead of winter. I said to them,
you ain't no nigga, and you a child of God.

Speaker 6 (01:08:33):
The next hour, so all.

Speaker 7 (01:08:35):
I did was teach them knowledge of self. And they
were so interested, they were open, they were receptive because
they were finally hearing and getting some knowledge about themselves
that would give them a sense of who they are
as an individual and as a person. So this is
so important what we're doing on that day. We have

(01:08:56):
a whole instantly. Let me say this is a dm
BE effort. It's not just DC, it's Baltimore, it's Annapolis.
We've been there's an loc in Baltimore that's been in
place for twenty nine years. They kept it together and
so they do a prayvreckfast. We're going over to Baltimore
for their prayer breakfast on the sixteenth, and then we

(01:09:18):
have a whole list of activities that we're doing. We
started yesterday morning. We have an early morning seven a m.
Prayer with all of the religious denominations involved, and it
was a powerful thing yesterday morning.

Speaker 6 (01:09:33):
Then we're going to.

Speaker 7 (01:09:34):
Do a torch run to kick this off again highlighting
the history, the rich history of Anacostia. We're going all
through the neighborhood. We're going to Barry Farms, one of
the most historic black communities in the history of America
that was started in eighteen sixty five by black men
who were living in the alleys in the mud of

(01:09:57):
northwest Washington. They walked across Eleventh Street bridge to Anacosta
built Barry Farms. Very few people know. They also are
part of the founding of Howard University because having been
given money by the Freeman's Bureau, the money that was
left over, they took that money to give to help

(01:10:18):
to found Howard University. Then we're going to the Anacosta
Neighborhood Museum, again, a great museum that was run by
our community, but it's at ferl of being closed now,
as you know many of the black museums and places
of our history of being shut down by the current administration.

Speaker 6 (01:10:38):
We're going by that. Then we're going to the Douglas Home.
Then we're going to.

Speaker 7 (01:10:42):
Have a candle visual walk across that bridge in the
same way that our ancestors did in eighteen sixty five.
And then of course we have the big dates on
October sixteenth. On the sixteenth, after that prayer records, we
have that walk across the bridge. And then on October

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the eighteenth, we're having a big program where we recognize
and pay tribute to all of the great women who
participated in the million man mark. Doctor Dorothy Height, Rosa Fox,
Maya Angelou and the list goes on, and we want
to pay tribute to them. We're gonna have the pledge

(01:11:23):
to our men, the same pledge as Minister Fia Khan
gave in nineteen ninety five. We're gonna pipe his voice
through our sound system outdoors and have him to give
that same pledge. But we're not stopping there. We're having
and we can't afford with the demise and the breakdown

(01:11:43):
of the Black community. This is not just for men.
It's for men, women and youth. We're having a mother
to give a charge of a pledge to the parents.
We having for youth to lead, a pledge to the
youth to stop the violence, to be respectful of their
adults and their elders and their parents, so on and
so forth. Did we have a little bit of flavor

(01:12:06):
of un defense. We got some entertainment, but of course,
of course we're gonna have gospel music. We're gonna have
go Go music. It's gonna be a great, great, great day.
All of our organizations in the community on board, and
we're just excited about reigniting the spirit.

Speaker 6 (01:12:23):
If if we can light that.

Speaker 7 (01:12:26):
Fire, we'll have something going on among our people in
our community, and of course, with Washington being the nation's capital,
what happens here can go out across the country. And
that's what we intend to do during these weeks, the
next two to three weeks leading up to October sixteenth
through eighteenth, when we have all of these events taking place.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
Great, that sounds like a lot of fun. Thirty minutes
after time they have family. The voice you hearing is
Reverend doctor Willie Wilson is the past the Americas of
you Onion Temple Baptist Church in Southeast DC. And what
we're doing is celebrating. We were actually reflecting on the
thirtieth anniversary of the Million Man March and also the
forty third anniversary of Unifest and it's going to have
a couple of events that we're going to talk about.

(01:13:10):
But you know, Reverend Wilson, I've heard brothers keep saying
right now, we need another million Man March because you
talked about, you know, getting that spirit back that we
had during that march and probably after the seventy two
Gary Convention as well, that political invention when all our
folks came together, there was a feeling there's an energy was,

(01:13:31):
you know, similar to what was at the million man March.
That seems to have dissipidated. Right now. Do we need
to do we need to get get that energy back
though that that that kind of vibe that we had
going back after the millionaire March. And how did we
lose it?

Speaker 7 (01:13:48):
Well, let's say before several things occurred, and I would
put one two three integration. We're talking about seventy some
years of integration. Prior to that, we had community, we
had businesses, we had everything we needed as a people.
But can't come integration. We uh uh responded to it

(01:14:10):
by a total cultural historical surrender. We gave up our businesses,
we gave up all the things that sustained us recently.
The second term to follow the FAA is actively recruiting
workers who suffer severe How.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Do we do that? Kevin hopeful we haven't lost yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
The questions to that, as.

Speaker 7 (01:14:37):
I said, the crack cocaine epidemic which was created by
the government, uh, which which then was followed by a
mass in consideration, which again was tied to crack cocaine.
So all of these things devastated our community to our
community up and uh, we've got to try to rebuild it.

(01:14:58):
You know, we got it. We monther because no people
without a sense of family and community has been able
to manifest its ultimate potential as a community, as a people.
So it's an imperative that we do this, and we're
just trying to start the fire with this regional effort

(01:15:18):
that we're putting together. Hopefully from it. Even as we
talk about the after events. We're talking about, you know,
all the black businesses that were created after the me
and Man munch and what happened to that. We talked
about one of the brothers the other night. We do
a weekly call organizing this We Act Radio here in Washington,

(01:15:42):
d C. The brother said, I want to just share
with you how we started We Act Radio. He said,
with the minister made the charge to go back home
and do something. He said, I was one of those
guys that was sticking up and knjacking, he said, I
came back home and that's why we have React Radio
right here in Washington, DC right now. Voter registery stration

(01:16:05):
went up. Once the spirit is up, once the sense
of community is up, once the sense of brotherhood and
sisthood is there, voter registration went up. So many positive
things came out of the Million Man months and out
of unifest in terms of what it did for the community.
Many of our people right now are broken. They feel

(01:16:29):
that there is no hope, there is no way out.
That's what this event is all about, trying to engender,
trying to reignite that same kind of spirit and then
build on that spirit to rebuild our community that's been
so devastated by all of those factors that I just
mentioned a moment.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Ago, all right twenty six away from the top of
that Reverend doctor Willi Wilson question, straight to the point,
I'm gonna ask you, what do you think when they
decided to drop through the crack cannon our communities as
a result of what they saw as coming out of
the Million Man March and the unification of black people,
And you know, all of a sudden, you know, most
of us know, if black people are unifying, it's game over.

(01:17:13):
Do you think that was a direct result of the
Million Man March and the residual effect of it, that's
why they dropped the canon our communities?

Speaker 7 (01:17:21):
Well, actually, crack cocaine started in nineteen seventy two, and
of course, you know Richard Nixon, who publicly expressed his
hatred and disdain for two groups hippies and young black males.
And thus then money was let through NIH and they
went out to California and they they went to the

(01:17:45):
labs in Ucla. They created crack cocaine, tested it out
on hippies in San Francisco, then took it into LA
and you know, the rest is spreaded all over the
United States. At the same time, then they ask all
these major laws, new laws to lock up and in

(01:18:06):
concerrate our men and women for long periods of time.
And this absolutely devastated our communities. Nineteen ninety five, the
Million Man March was the beginning of a recovery, but
again that devastation continued. You can't, as I said before,

(01:18:27):
it take hundreds of thousands of black men out of
the community and not have an effect and break down
these young brothers in the street. When they get a
certain age, you know, thirteen fourteen, they need to hear
that bark of that male voice, and if it's not there,
you know, they will buck that female. And we see

(01:18:48):
the consequences we're looking at right now, the results and
the repercussions of crack cocaine. Every day of mass incnserration
fifty years after. Here we have the results of it,
with our young brothers running in the streets with eight
K fifteens move each other down like wild beasts because
of what was done to our community. And I was decimated.

(01:19:11):
I was destroyed literally by these two phenomena. And I
must add to it integration because that was a factor
as well.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
All right, hold on thought right there, We got to
check the latest news, weather in traffick in our different cities.
But before we go, my question to you, though, of
Reverend Wilson is because you mentioned one of the solutions
is to teach our young people about themselves astra quasi.
That's his thought. He says, know thyself. So when we
get back, can you explain when you say teach them
to know themselves or what do you mean by that?

(01:19:43):
Because we try to find solutions on this program, because
we all know what our problems are. So I'll let
you attack that when we get back. Family YouTube can
join our discussion. Reverend Willie Wilson reach out to us
at eight hundred and four five zero is seventy eight
seventy six, and we'll take your phone calls after the news.
That's next, I mean thanks your role with us on
this Tuesday morning. I guess it's the Reverend Willie Wilson,
Reverend doctor Willie Wilson from Union Temple Baptist Church. He's

(01:20:06):
the pastor emeritus of that church right now, pastor of
that church for several years. It's a landmark in Washington,
DC's The address is twelve twenty five W Street in
Southeast d C. And this morning he's reflecting on the
thirtieth anniversary of the maille Man March and also the
forty third anniversary of Unifest before we go back to
Le'm just remind you. Coming up later this morning, we're
gona speak with the President General of the Universal of
African People's Organization. That would be One Zaki Burrudy is

(01:20:28):
going to introduce us to the group's ambassador to the Gambia.
Before we hear from Brother Zaki, the Gaviites, Brother Seingo
Baya and Barbamotip will preview this week's Race First Convention
in Baltimore. And later this week you're going to hear
from a critical thinking expert and also reparations advocate, doctor
David Horn, also clinical psychologist doctor Droida gru will join us,

(01:20:51):
and Temple University afrocology professor doctor now Dove will also
be here. So if you are in Baltimore, make sure
you keep your radio locked in tight on ten ten WLB,
or if you're in the DMV rolling on FM ninety
five point nine at am fourteen fifty w L. All right,
Reverend Wilson, you mentioned that you you spoke to a
group of young brothers at a school and you told

(01:21:12):
them who they are. And I mentioned earlier the brother
Ashrad Kuaci. One of his seeming thoughts is that if
if our young people knew who they are, they wouldn't
be creative this kind of havoc that we're seeing in
our streets. What did you share with those young brothers
that turn them around? Is Wilson, stay with us, Kevin, Hello,

(01:21:34):
I'm here. Oh there you go? Okay here Now, I
don't know if you heard the question. My question to
you is what did you say to the young those
young brothers that you mentioned your assembly some high school
students and had a conversation with them. What did you
say to them they turned them around?

Speaker 7 (01:21:50):
Well, I started, as I said before, when they walked
in the door as they were taking their coats off,
I said, you ain't no nigga, You're a child of God.
All of us know about theness of ancient Black Egypt.
A few of us know how and what made them
so great. In the ancient Mystery Temples, the very same
verse this is where as you raised the question about

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man knows thyself, that actually came out of ancient Black Egypt,
and the very same words that are attributed to Jesus
in the scriptures, know ye not that the Kingdom of
God is within you. Every in the Mystery Temples they
were taught to say two words a nuke asah, I

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am divine, meaning that because man is made in the
image of God, man shares in the attributes of God.
Man has the ability, not the same quantity of ability
or power, but the same quality, which means that once

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man knows who he is other than the titles and
the images that are ascribed to him. For example, if
you take a dog, and once you give him the
name Fido, and he answers to that name, you now
have him under your control, and he will respond accordingly

(01:23:19):
by following the directions and the orders that you give
that dog. If that dog is true to its real
nature and knows who he is as one created to
be a hunter, to hunt for his own food, but
once he's domesticated and damed, he even cannot even feed
himself anymore. I think that kind of parallels the realities

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in terms of us as a people, understanding who we are,
knowing what our true nature is as a being created
and an image and the likeness of God. Second to that,
then we talk about the great history of our ancestors
prior to slavery, the great civilizations of Molly and Sunguy, Time,

(01:24:06):
Buck to Gan, all the greatness that was our ancient
Black Egypt, the greatest civilization ever.

Speaker 6 (01:24:13):
Faith grace this earth. We have to teach that history.

Speaker 7 (01:24:18):
I think those two aspects of knowledge of self are
what makes a difference in an individual's life. Knowing who
you are as a being created, the image and the
likeness of God. I can tell you those young brothers
came through an immediate halt, just out the words out
of my mouth, ain't and you ain't no nigger, your

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child of God from and then beginning to explain what
that means to be a child of God. That God
put just a little peace of himself in every one
of us, and that must be awakened. This is what
we talk about in religion when we talk about being
born again. It's in us, but it has to be awakened.

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We have to have knowledge of who we are, and
this society, this white supremacist environment that we live in,
has done a great job of teaching us to be
other than ourselves and not giving us proper knowledge of
who we are as beings made in the very image
and the likeness of God, which.

Speaker 5 (01:25:22):
Means that we are little gods.

Speaker 7 (01:25:24):
The offspring always share in the attributes of the parents.
And if God is our father, as we say, if
we pray our Father, that means as God's offspring, we
share in the attributes of our Father. Those attributes have
to be awakened in us, and once they are awakened,

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then we can.

Speaker 6 (01:25:49):
Be who we were created to be and.

Speaker 7 (01:25:52):
Make the contribution that God created us to make in
this world.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
Sha shay Tan away from the top of our family.
If you haven't learned anything today, please learn that. Those
of you have young people in your lives, get a
copy of the podcast if they didn't hear this conversation,
just to share with them, just to let them listen
to what the reverend just said. Anyway, Reverend Willie Wilson,
reflecting on the thirtieth anniversary of the Million Man March,
do we need another Million Man March today?

Speaker 7 (01:26:23):
We need the spirit of the Million May in March.
I think God showed us what we can do when
we come together, and then we can have peace, we
can have unity, we can have community. So what we
want to do is rekindle the spirit. When I talked
to Brother Minister fair Conn about this, He's dere this
is a great thing. I think this is something that

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we never need to do. I don't think we necessarily
need another million May in March. We need the spirit
of the Million Man March. We need each our young
people who weren't around. We got two generations now who
weren't even born when the Man Monster. But that's one
reason we have shown the movie Spike Lee's movie Get

(01:27:05):
on the Bus, because in that movie, I think it
gives a nice picture of the spirit that existed in
nineteen ninety five. As a way of educating our young
people about the spirit that we had. One night during
this celebration, we are having a program at Union Temple
where stories will be told about the experience so that

(01:27:29):
people can hear some of the experiences that we had
doing that time, and then how it all came together.

Speaker 6 (01:27:35):
One of the.

Speaker 7 (01:27:36):
Stories I like to tell us when we met at
the Reverend Clay Evans Church in Chicago. We had all
the denomination there, we had everybody there, and at the
brother Jowry said, well we didn't media. Then he said,

(01:27:57):
don't go back and say President, the religious had not
gone there complete improved to be a part of than
me a.

Speaker 6 (01:28:14):
Man things and to board and meet with their boards.

Speaker 7 (01:28:25):
To the official we can fly back.

Speaker 6 (01:28:29):
In the wild. I won't go on and on about
the leaders.

Speaker 7 (01:28:38):
Who didn't want to be your party talking. And he
started was a thing and movie to the hole and says,
got it, We.

Speaker 6 (01:28:52):
Got it right.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
How I thought right there, Wilson, How I thought right
there for us, seven minutes away from the top of
our family, just joining us. I got is an active
pastor and he's retired present he's a pastor emeritus now
of Union and Temple Baptist Church Landmark in Washington, DC.
You come to DC, especially you go to Southeast d
C twelve twenty five W Street. In fact, we held

(01:29:13):
one of our power talk conferences there, and some folks
who understand about Christiana will see a different kind of
church when you go to you go to Union and Temple,
and it's a lot of folks in the district attend
that church as well. But what we're doing, we're reflecting
on the thirtieth anniversary of the Million Man March and
the forty third anniversary of Unifest and he's putting these

(01:29:36):
two events together. They're going to celebrate these events next month,
of course, and we're discussing about the Million Man March.
How can you know, how can we get that spirit back?
That's what the Reverend Wilson is talking about. Obviously we
need it now because we see there's so much division
amongst question. So, Reverend Wilson, what are some of the
things before your event takes place in October? What's some
of the things that we can do well?

Speaker 7 (01:29:58):
When they can get involved, they can go to a
Union Temple website and register to come out. Once again,
let me just say this is not just for men.
This is for men, women and youth this time around.
Of course women were involved in nineteen ninety five as well,
but not this way. We want them to come out
because we need all of us. What we're facing as

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a people right now, we cannot afford to just say
we're going to have a separate coming together of the men,
or a separate coming together the women or the youth.
We need all of us together to uard the same message,
to get on the same accord, so that we can
begin to make a difference in our own community. And

(01:30:42):
so I want to let people know that on October
the eighteenth, we're doing it right in the heart of
the community. We're not going down to the Capitol Mall,
but right in Anacostia, right around Union Temple. We're courting
off several blocks and we're going to have vendors out there.
We're going to have you know, I'll call from the
end of the year, twenty eight thousand people in Washington.

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
D C.

Speaker 7 (01:31:06):
Will be no longer have medicaid. We're working to with
some of the health officials to kind of medierate that
situation because our people health is a great problem in
our community, and so we're going to have information available
about that. Other government agencies will be there to share
information with our people. And so it's about all of

(01:31:28):
us coming together insident. Let me just say also, we're
going over to Baltimore to the loc that's been in
existence since nineteen ninety five. They having a pred reference
on the morning of the sixteenth. Many of us in
DC are going to go over there and share with them,
and then we all are going to assemble together here
in Washington, d C. On October the eighteenth, which is

(01:31:50):
the big day here in Washington, after we've had all
the other activities on the sixteenth and on the eleventh
that weced the big gathering that we have on October
the eighteenth, right at Union Temple area, right on the
parking lot. That's where the stage will be. We won't

(01:32:11):
have five stages of entertainment like we usually had for unifest.
We have one stage, but we will have speakers, will
have entertainment, we'll have food. It's gonna be a great
coming together, and we travel that it will ignite the
spirit of the million man marks so that our people
can come together in unity and do something for ourselves.

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It's clear government's not gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
They made that's right, and hold that thought right there.
Reverend Wilson step aside and getting caught up in the latest
trafficking weather in both of our cities. Family, you want
to join this conversation, I guess Reverend Willie Wilson reach
out to us. A telephone number is toll free. It's
also worldwide. It's eight hundred and four or five zero
seventy eight seventy six, and we'll take a calls after
the trafficking weather that's next and ground rising family in

(01:32:59):
thanks to staying with us on this Tuesday morning, I
guess is the Reverend Willie Wilson. Reverend doctor Arry Wilson's
giving his props. He used to pastor emeritus of Union
Temple Baptist Church in Washington, d C. Twelve twenty five
W Street in southeast d C. It's a landmark in
the city. And Reverend Wilson is one of the movers
in Shakers momentary. We're gonna speak with Brother Seingo bay

(01:33:19):
A and also Barba Emotep, but let us finish up
with Reverend Wilson. Reverend Wilson went when Minister far Count
called you to to discuss the million man March that
he is planning to do the Martian and we had
g meetings and also also it was there doctor Milana Kranger.
He wrote the manifesto for the Million Man March. What
was it about that meeting? Because you know, we have

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some in our community we don't have a unity. You know,
some Christian ministers don't dislike they dislike other Christian religions,
other parts of the Christian Christians who say they're Christians,
they don't like Seven Day Advances. They think their religion
is better. But you guys galvanized behind I'm Muslim. How
did that come about?

Speaker 7 (01:34:01):
Well, first of all, Minister Faricin, as I said earlier,
I have had a leadership since nineteen seven to seven
when I first brought it in don'ble to speak, and
from there we became brothers and have been brothers all
the time. That's one of the greatest things about in March,
the demonstration of Minister Farrakhan and myself and what that

(01:34:22):
showed the rest of the community. As you said, many
Christian pastors didn't want to be involved because it was
a quote Muslim doing it leading. I went to them
personally and I said to them, well, I don't want
to be to no Buslim. And I said, well, look do
it for me, come for me. And many of these

(01:34:43):
great leaders in Christianity out of their relationship with me
came because I asked them to come. And it is
that kind of crossing of a line between religions that
is so important because that aims one of the most
deducive forces in our community, religion and finding the way

(01:35:06):
doctor Height taught me. At Doctor Height, who participated in
every coming together by our people from sleeping car porters
all the way up to the Milliam and Monts, he said,
ll it's about for Allison, you don't have to agree.
And that's message that I carried to all of those leaders.
You don't have to agree with the Muslims and everything

(01:35:26):
that they believe in. They have to leave in what
you believe. It's about coming together in a common cause.
As Malcolm said at the King Shopping Baptist Church and
its famous back of the bullet speech, he said, we
come together in a common cause, and that cause is freedom,
justice and liberation for our people. And that's what it

(01:35:47):
was about. And that's the same again. I have to
keep saying that because that's the spirit that gave us
that energy in nineteen ninety five forgetting a title and
labels and who we call ourselves and realize that we
are all Black people, and we need Black people to

(01:36:08):
come together so that on October eighteenth, we have this
big gathering right in the heart of Anacostia. It's about unit,
It's about that same street of love and fellowship among
our own people that will.

Speaker 6 (01:36:25):
Begin to change the.

Speaker 7 (01:36:28):
Situation that we're in as a people, because when we
come together in unity, there is nothing that we cannot do.

Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
A say all right before we let you go. And
you're going to have this event taking place next month,
and this is going to be a culmination of the
thirtieth anniversary of the Melee Man March and also the
forty third anniversary of Unifest. Tell us more about the event.
How can folks get involved if they want to attend
or they want to take part in it is an
email address, a phone number. How can I get involved?

Speaker 7 (01:36:58):
Okay, they can call all or ether. They can go
to the Udian Gymple website and on that website it
has all the information about the Median Man in months,
your flash unitsense. It shows how they can get involved.
Our steering committee we're meeting every Monday night. On that

(01:37:19):
website they can get the information on all of the
activities that will be taking place and above all they
can be involved. We have flyers on that website you
can see what activities are those who want to come
by the church.

Speaker 4 (01:37:36):
We have.

Speaker 7 (01:37:38):
Rack cars. We also have flyers they can pick up.
But it's drawing, it's developing. And on October eighteenth, that's
the big day after the sixteenth. You're going to be
on the seventeen. I didn't say we're going to have
that's a day of fasting. And am so many broken
relationships many dollars, don't we're talking about the youth beeping

(01:38:00):
out on the streets. We got people beeping No.

Speaker 6 (01:38:04):
In revision in relationship.

Speaker 7 (01:38:07):
So that's a day of atonement. Want people to admit
their breaking relationships and then try to resolve their differences.
So it's a day where we come together in unique
but get all the arguments and the disagreement and come
together in one mind and one spirit so that we

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can make a difference among our people and in our community.

Speaker 1 (01:38:35):
All right, thank you, Reverend doctor Willie Wilson, and thank
you for the work you have done so far and
continue to do, especially in the DMV area. It's just
thank you for doing that well.

Speaker 6 (01:38:44):
Thank you so much, appreciate you all.

Speaker 1 (01:38:47):
Right, family, that's Reverend Willie Wilson, the easy pastor emeritus
of Union and Temple Baptist Church. As I mentioned to
the Landmark in Southeast d C. Twelve twenty five W Street,
we heard we held one of our power Talk conferences
there as well. Let's turn our attention now to us
what's taking place of the convention coming up? The Race
First Convention in Baltimore. We have Godfrey hes brother saying
by a and also Biba m o taps with us,

(01:39:10):
Grand rising fellas, welcome to the program. Grand all right,
so this is this the Race First Convention, Brother sing
Biba m o tap, and tell us about how did
this come about?

Speaker 4 (01:39:30):
Yes?

Speaker 13 (01:39:30):
Yes, can y'all hear me?

Speaker 5 (01:39:32):
I'm not clear?

Speaker 6 (01:39:33):
Yes? Okay?

Speaker 13 (01:39:35):
Good? So yes, brother called the Race First Convention. It
came out of a call in twenty twenty to start
doing a series of Race First rallies. And these Race
First Rallies the first one was in August twenty twenty,
and then from that one that happened in Baltimore, c.

(01:39:57):
The following year, the rallies began to take place in
various cities throughout the United States of America. Even one year.
I believe in year twenty twenty two it had it
went as far as to taking place on Race First
vout in Tanzania on the continent of Africa. But the
intentions of the rallies was always to get us to
the convention. The rallies was the means to get to

(01:40:19):
this particular place here because the convention for me, in
the rallies and the call for Race First, when I
put the call out, was always about how can we
as a people add to deepening and further developing national consciousness.
And the national consciousness is necessary for us to combat

(01:40:41):
and tackle and move against the forces that have been
moving against us on the national stage. So the convention
is about that there. So that's pretty much in a
brief how the convention came about. The stopped there for now.

Speaker 1 (01:40:59):
All right after their top day. Our family. That's the
voice of Barbamo Tip and also brother saying Goo baias
where us is discussing the Race First conventions take place
in Baltimore later this week. Let me answer this is
a Barbamotip. Have you ever received any pushback when when
you talk about race first? Did anybody say, hey, that's
too black? They don't want to get involved in it.

Speaker 13 (01:41:20):
Yes, I receive, I have weceived. I have received some
of that over the last five years. Yes, and I
believe you know, it comes from many of us not
really understanding who we are and what we come from

(01:41:41):
and how we have always been and authentically black people
since we've been on the planet.

Speaker 12 (01:41:47):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:41:47):
That's so for us to.

Speaker 13 (01:41:49):
Represent blackness is not new, and now oftentimes we think
it's new because we're listening to another narrative, the narrative
about the wop culture and things like that. So we
think that to be who we are, it should be
unapologetically who we are. If something that's new, it's really
a bekind to who we are, you know. So those
people who have took those positions about them to take

(01:42:11):
those positions, and I was able to explain to them
who we are, because that's part of what we are
dealing with, not really knowing to the deep degrees as
who we are, and that lack of knowledge interns our
ability to exercise power.

Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
Yeah, let me go to brother Saint God because race
versus one of the cries of Marcus Garvey, the Honorable
Marcus Messiah Garvey talked about race verse and the previous
discussion we have Reverend Willie Wilson. He explains to these
young people that if they knew who they were, they
wouldn't be wilding out and then all start of crazy
stuff in the street. Uh, brother Saint God, is this

(01:42:51):
something that you that you endorsed as well? Because you
know other communities they don't come out and say race verse.
They's just direct race versus. There's no there's no there's
no discussion. It's it's you want have understood that. As
Neely Fuller teaches us. They stay on code. But for
some of my folks, we've got to bring him back
into the fold. How do we do that?

Speaker 4 (01:43:08):
Well, first of all, Baba Emo Chep laid it out.
There's a lot of people that just don't know who
they are. We have been conditioned with the Urugu virus
and we know I don't believe it. I don't believe
in saying white supremacy any longer because they're not supreme.
But it's a virus, an evil virus that has been

(01:43:29):
forced to punt out people to try to emulate something
that we are so yes as a Garbyite. But even
before god Be came into existence. There are many brothers
and sisters who came together who were practicing race first,
practicing Pan Africanism, and as my brother Emo Chef says,

(01:43:50):
scientific pan Africanism. You know, so we're not talking about
just Pan Africanism. We're talking about Pan Africanists that understand
the importance of knowing self and knowing race first is
not necessarily anti any life, but it's pro us and
that's very very important because as God Be traveling found out,
we were on the bottom of the run all around

(01:44:11):
the world. God Be understood it was important for us
to pull our own shelves up, take care of ourselves,
know ourselves, return to our ancient history. And that's why
race first is very, very very important. Other people practice
that as a fact. All you got to do is
just check out what's going on around the world. But
we need to think about our own selves, get back
to our own roots and culture. And that's why it's

(01:44:32):
very important for us, not only myself as an elder,
but the movement, the governments that have come into existence
that practice race first. To support the PLM, the Pan
African Liberation Movement and my brother Motep and we've been
supporting them from the beginning, from the Race First rallies,
as he said, that's very important because sometimes you got
to rally our people. And like Reverend Billy Wilson say

(01:44:54):
in my closing, the mobilization of the Millionaire March, which
I was very very much a part of, is a
mobilization process. But once you mobilize, you must organize, and
an organizing you must have a focus. The focus must
be race First, and it should be Pan Africananism and
Darbyism in the twenty first century and forward.

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
Got you fifteen after top the out of the voice
of brother saying goo baa is a garveyit. And also
we have Barbba mo tap with us and we're discussing
the Race First Convention in Baltimore. So Boba amotap what when?
Give us the details of the convention?

Speaker 6 (01:45:31):
Great?

Speaker 13 (01:45:31):
So yes, the National Race First Convention is happening this weekend,
starting on this Friday, which is September twenty sixth, And
on Friday it will be at t Neat Restaurant and
that's located at fifty five to twenty five Harford Road, Baltimore,

(01:45:51):
Maryland two one two one four. And that's going to
be like a meet and greet. That's from five pm
eight thirty pm for those individuals who will maybe traveling
out of the town that's coming in town for the
things that's gonna happen over the weekend, there's a place
for us to convene. We'll talk if there's the minimum addressing,
but we'll just be laying back, just connecting on the

(01:46:13):
principles of race first. That's happening on the twenty sixth
of September twenty twenty five five pm and eight thirty pm.

Speaker 6 (01:46:20):
And then on.

Speaker 13 (01:46:21):
Saturday, September twenty seven, twenty twenty five, from twelve pm
to five thirty pm, the Convention itself will be in session.
And what will be happening at what in that time
frame is where that will be an address to frame
the convention, and that will be by me. I will
frame the Convention, and then we would proceed to break

(01:46:44):
off and deal with these twelve There are twelve fundamental
articles that we are going to be developing resolution statements
around and those will be taking place in that session.
And then on the next day, which is the twenty eight,
from eleven thirty eight three pm, the Convention will be

(01:47:05):
back in session. And we'll be developing our statements of principles,
our statements of principles, and the basis for all of
this is for us to draft a document that we're
gonna sign, that's gonna be an overarching document that's gonna
that we each can go forth and align our organizational

(01:47:27):
movements well. And by doing so, it gets all of
on this, all of us on the same page, because
oftentimes you got a lot of us out here doing
a lot of work all over this, all over the
United States of America. We we got these organizational structures.
We don't know each other, we're not connected with each
other because nothing binds us, right, and because nothing binds us,
it creates the type of weakness, a political weakness, of

(01:47:49):
revolutionary weakness that we're not even aware of. So we're
trying to to the wrate Firce rally or the space
chose convention and designer, trying to plug that gap. It's
a gap that needs to be plugged. And we and
we plugged that by first raising.

Speaker 1 (01:48:03):
Right and hold that though right there, Barbamo tap, I'll
let you explain that when we get back on the
other side of this break. Seventeen minutes after the top
of our family, you want to join this discussion with
our guest, their brother Sengo by A and b mo
O Tip reach out to us. Our telephone number is
eight hundred four to five zero seventy eight seventy six
and we'll take your phone calls next and Grand Rising family,
thanks for staying with us on this Tuesday morning. We

(01:48:24):
have a couple of Gafiites with us discussing the Race
First convention that is going to take place in Baltimore
this weekend. We have brother Seingo by A and also
Barba m O Tip And before we left, Bubba mo
Tip was giving us a rundown of the event. So
Barbbamo Tep, I'll let you finish your thoughts.

Speaker 13 (01:48:40):
Yes, thank you Carl. So the final part that I
was a temple to make is Race First as a
as a call and as a philosophy, and as a
and as a plastice. The convention allows for us to
begin a step towards deepening national consciousness. National consciousness is
crucial and any people struggle or any people's movement against

(01:49:05):
oppressing and opressing, there has to be some national consciousnesses
because we have to be able to move at a
national level. What national consciousness does. It allows us to
begin from there to have a national identity. And the
national identity lends to national solidarity. And it's only at
the stage of national solidarity that we actually produce as

(01:49:27):
national feeling, where we truly begin to care and love
each other at a national level. And it's out of
national feeling that we get national response. And I'll get
example what I mean by national response. We can think
about all the things that have happened asking black people
in the United States of America, the atrocities. Let's say
I think like three four years ago, you had the
mass shooting in Boston, New York. You know what I'm saying.

(01:49:49):
Up there in Buffalo, New York, you had that shooting,
and what we do as a people, you know, we
may talked about it. We made a upset for about
a week or so, and then after that everybody go
back the business. And the reason we're back to business
because that was that's not a national response and it
was not a national response because there was no national feeling.
We only didn't feel for those people. You know what

(01:50:10):
I'm saying. We didn't like to eat, no, but we
didn't have a deep feeling at a national level. And
because we didn't have a deep feeling a national level,
we didn't respawn nationally to that. You know what I'm saying.
We didn't turn this country upside down the way that
we the way that we should have it right, And
we didn't do that because, like I say, the national
feeling wasn't there, and the national feeling wasn't there because

(01:50:31):
there was no national parmatality.

Speaker 1 (01:50:33):
Hold I thought, right there, Baba Mtel, Hold hold up
one right there, Let me jump in for a second here.
Do you think the reason is because we're looking for
a quote unquote leader.

Speaker 7 (01:50:41):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:50:42):
One time people used to criticize Jesse because he was
there all the time. Jesse's got some health challenges, so
he's not as vocal as he should be. And there's
a vacuum as far as black leadership is concerned. We
don't have a person who's coming down, who's gonna spend,
as you said, lead the charge. And I think the
black community is now looking around, well, who's going to
do it? Who's gonna do it? Then you've got another
group is criticize anybody who steps up. But you're right,

(01:51:05):
there was not a concentrated response to that shooting in Buffalo.
So do you think that was because we don't have
leadership in our community these days? Your thoughts, So.

Speaker 13 (01:51:16):
My thoughts will be there. We have leadership. Our leadership
we have followed off and the leadership that we have
in these different areas have to be raised to a
higher level. So we have to most definitely got to
address what's happening on the ground in our local areas,
but we also got to think at the national level too,

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So we have to elevate ourselves and become nationally linked together.
When we nationally linked together, then that allows us to
have this concentrated national response. There is leadership, There is leadership.
We're just we're just localized and we have to raise that.
That consciousness is a struggle that got to take place
with these organizations. So that's why our national convention is

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we have to come together that these leaders in these
groups and we have to engage in some type of
ideological struggle and we have to get to that level
so that we're in a unique place in our historical
development as a people right now, So we have to
type place. We just have to get engaged and elevate

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ourselves a little bit more, you know, so not to
because I don't want anyone to think that I'm saying
that the work that they're doing at the local level
is no good. That's good, no doubt. But our oppression
is national, our enemy is national and international. So we
have to elevate. And so that's more of what it is.
We got leadership all over this country in different little

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ardass Now it's trying to elevate ourselves so we can
organize on a national level and make greater strides forward.

Speaker 1 (01:52:51):
Yeah, twenty five to the top. Al let me just
bring a brother saying God, because she said nationally and
he's sort of tacked a little bit ticked off international,
but brother saying God, how it poor is to see
that our struggling it's not just nationally but globally.

Speaker 4 (01:53:04):
Well, it's super important. But you gotta have as has
been said, it's great to mobilize and organize. You have
to organize on a local level. You have to address
what is going on with your family, you have to
address what's going on in your community, and you have
to organize. You have to have some kind of nationalist base.
As God be taught us, you organize on a local level,

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you organize on a national level to give you additional collective,
unified power, and then you internationalize on that level. Because
the truth be told. When we say race first, we're
talking about Africans in Brazil, were talking about Africans in Africa.
We talking about Africans in the UK. We talking about
Africans all over in the US. And but if you

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look at what's going on in the world, theed the
works in America are super important. You know, when the
Black Panther Party was moving here, they had the Black
Panther Party in Australia, they had the Black Panther Party
in India. Same thing with the Garvey movement. But even
before the Garvey movement.

Speaker 6 (01:54:04):
When we move.

Speaker 4 (01:54:05):
As African people and collectively as brother motep is saying
and have a nationalist position and a focus together that
impacts the entire planet, the entire world. That's why I
mentioned earlier Pan Africanism because I'm a Gabby Eye, I'm
a universal Pan African nationalist. However, it is critical for

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all of us around the world to reconnect. But before
we can reconnect the proper way to have international power,
you have to have local Power, National Power and then
Global International Power Got.

Speaker 1 (01:54:39):
You twenty seven at the top of the hour with
Brother Sean goo by Ags heard it also belb Motel
were discussing the race first Commissions take place in Baltimore
later this week. Mark is joining the conversation. He's online
three he's calling from Baltimore, Grand Rising Market on with
Brother seanor and also by them.

Speaker 16 (01:54:56):
Chaps, Hey, Grand Riseing. Well, what's that that's Saturday? What
time or what's that address.

Speaker 13 (01:55:09):
On Saturday? Yes, sir, so on Saturday. That address is
that fifteen O five Utah Places, fifteen O five Utah Place, Baltimore,
Maryland two one two one seven.

Speaker 6 (01:55:23):
What time?

Speaker 13 (01:55:24):
And that's the that's that start at twelve pm.

Speaker 11 (01:55:29):
Okay, Now, let me be real clear.

Speaker 13 (01:55:32):
Let me be real clear. This is not a lecture seriance.
So no, this is not gonna be a serious of
lectures of presentations. This convention is small group discussion, work oriented.
If we're not here that it's not a bunch of
people that's gonna be lecturing. It's not workshops like no
one is coming here to be taught by anybody like.
This convention is about doing some work because we're trying

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to develop something good. I'm gonna play with that.

Speaker 16 (01:55:58):
I'm glad you don't hear it in Baltimore. You know
you talk about uh, you know, the coming together Captain
Andrew Muhammad, he last going on eight years. He had
the biggest continued the Muslim brothers, Christian brothers here uh
and and brothers got their life together like I did.

Speaker 6 (01:56:15):
And other brothers.

Speaker 16 (01:56:17):
Called we are us. We are usmovement dot org. And
yesterday we were at a young man was killed over
in East Waltemore, Uncle t Uh. We were over there,
you know with his family. You know the only thing
we could do really is just like clean up the
a lot next to the alley where he was killed.
So with that being said, me and Carl talk about

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this all the time. We think the biggest thing uh,
Sister Molina is Malina Abdullah uh black lives matter, grass roots.
She said that black lives matter, which came because of
George Floyd's murder, which was a light skinned brother there,
that it could have helped him out at any time
like the Black chiefs said. But she it's been high

(01:57:04):
that for hundreds of millions of dollars, and and nobody
seemed to be mad about that. But me and Carl,
you know, are you guys gonna be talking about how
we're gonna move forward and getting the hundreds of millions
of dollars and ten and twenty million dollars a year
to get to the grass roots in our cities. That
would help us, you know, help our organizations that's working together.

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Y'all gonna deal with that.

Speaker 13 (01:57:32):
You said, are we gonna talk about that?

Speaker 6 (01:57:35):
Yeah? Do you are you aware of that? Yes?

Speaker 13 (01:57:39):
I'm aware of everything you're talking about. Guess I am.

Speaker 6 (01:57:43):
Okay.

Speaker 16 (01:57:43):
So I have heard a lot about us, you know, uh,
militia buys and all of our our lawyers. While why
are we not on that because system? She said that
they have the best lawyers and all that kind of stuff,
And I say, we have all the black lawyers, So
why we not on that end of day.

Speaker 5 (01:58:03):
To get our money back?

Speaker 13 (01:58:07):
Can I say? Can I? Can I just add a little?

Speaker 6 (01:58:10):
He said?

Speaker 13 (01:58:11):
I think one of the reasons why while we're doing
the convention, because I'm quite sure if I talked to
all black people, all of us got an issue that
we think is pressing, and I think that's one of
the things that immobilizes us because all of us feel
like the issue that's asking to our heart is the
greatest issue, and that's that Ha's been holding us back.
I think all the issues that black people raise are

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important issues, but we have to find a way to
come together. So the convention is not We're not saying
that we're doing this weekend going to solve our problems.
We're not saying that We're not saying this is the
end all, be all. We're saying that this is a
step forward in the tradition of black people because black
people have had conventions. And then we all clear, I'm

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not saying a conference, because this is not a conference,
this is not a congress. This is a convention. There
are three, three distinctly different happenings or gatherings. For this
convention comes in the tradition as did Marcus god the
convention in nineteen twenty, which was successful, as did the

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eighteen fifty four convention that happened in the eighteen hundred,
which was successful, as the eighteen thirty convention. So we
come in that particular tradition. Right then, we're not saying
we're going to solve the problems this weekend. We're saying
that this is a step towards it, and if people
feel like they can vibe with this and they have
something to add to what we're trying to construct, that's

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going to be something that's gonna designe to bring all
of us together. And that's a unique issue that need
to be put as a resolution, then come be a
part of the process. But no, we're not going to
be sitting in there doing a bunch of lectures talk
about why we're not trying to get no money while
not reparations we're not doing. That's not what's going to
happen then, But the discussions that can take place, we'll

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open as long as those discussions are happening in a
way that's respectful and understanding that what we are timpting
to do is for all of us, and we're not
necessarily going to say that one issue is greater than
the other issue, because the dominant issue is, like Bobington
Gored was just saying, that dominant issue right now is
to your google standing on the planet Earth. Someple with that,

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and all the other things that we're dealing with are
symptoms of their doing everything whatever whatever it is, even
what we call black on black crime, which is proximity clowns.

Speaker 6 (02:00:27):
It is them.

Speaker 13 (02:00:28):
You know, the drug addictions, it's them. The miseducation, it's them.
So we got sl issues, slower issues, but we need
people who's willing to say, you know what, I'm willing
to sit down and see what they're going. What can
we do collectively moving forward on all levels.

Speaker 1 (02:00:43):
That's he and I thank you for that clarification. Barbam
o tip. Let me just fill mark it just you know,
just yesterday, Mark, you talked about Black Lives Matter. One
of the frauds does that we just call them frosts
because the person was convicted, Monica Cannon Grant. She's federally
charge alongside her husband for you know, defrauding the people

(02:01:04):
with the Black Lives Matter. Anyway, she was sentenced to
eighteen months in prison, So she got eighteen months. People
thought that's probably kind of lenient for what she did
for that money for Black Lives Matter, but again it
all goes. They really don't care. She' was stealing, scamming
people who were supposedly supporting Black lives so it just
gave her eighteen months. I just wanted you to know that.
But Mark, I thank you for your call.

Speaker 16 (02:01:25):
That's all I'm talking about. Yeah, card, that's not an issue. Man,
that's millions of dollars they could be going through our community.

Speaker 1 (02:01:33):
Thank yeah, thank you, I mean brother saying God. This
question because Barbara Emma mentioned that you know it's race first,
but does it mean that you ignore all the other
races or is it just our race is number one?
How do you see that when you because in the
titles it's race first.

Speaker 4 (02:01:51):
Absolutely, we got to deal with ourselves.

Speaker 7 (02:01:53):
Call.

Speaker 4 (02:01:54):
See, we spend too much time talking about what's going
on in the Yoruga world or in the world of whiteness.
We need to deal with the world of electricity. And
it's very, very important that we stay focused on ourselves.
But let me ask an mochep based on the caller,
based on the conversation. We want to get to the

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meat of organizing, not just partiflicating about our problems, but
organizing because many of us individual groups are dealing with
those issues. But we cannot get caught up in asking
the oppressor for anything anything. We don't need nothing from
your regoup. We need to deal with African period, because
everything that we have we have, but we are not

(02:02:37):
utilizing it. It's being taken from us, the whole resources
of the continent. Your Reugo is exploiting them, exploiting our
own African humanity because we're not doing what we need
to do to protect ourselves and to move forward. Now,
let me ask Motep if you would call because your
brother just talking about something that related to economics. Economics

(02:02:58):
is not asking for brands. Economics is to be able
to set up an economics system that we can move
forward with that we control our resources, We put our
resources together to do for ourselves. Now, we're not telling
other groups what to do or how to go about
getting resources, but we are saying we erase first. Now,
the fact of the matter is it's twelve different groupings

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that we are being focused on. Economics is one of them.
Marcus Garvey said it clearly. We have everything we need
but control of our own destiny, our own resources, our
own political understanding, our own social constructs, and on and
on and on. And that's why the PLM and the
vision of brother Motep is setting up an opportunity for

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us to come together, learn from each other, put the
things on the table of what we have going on,
and consolidate so that we practically organize collectively to come
out with something positive, to have more stronger resources, more
collective work and responsibility. So we're not just practicing quomes
of principles at the end of the year, but we're

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doing it three hundred and sixty five. So I just
want to stop on that point so the Motip can
explain some of the groups that we'll be breaking out.
So when people come, they come ready to work.

Speaker 1 (02:04:17):
Yeah, and hold I thought right there, We've got to
step aside for a few moments and we come back.
We let Baba Mtep do that as well. Family, you
tubo can join our discussion about this race. First conference
has taking place in Baltimore at the end of the week.
Reach out to us at eight hundred four or five
zero seventy eight seventy six or twenty three minutes away
from the top of that will take your phone calls
next and Grant Rising family, thanks for rolling with us

(02:04:38):
on this Tuesday morning with our guess the gafy IITs
brother saying go by a Baba Motep before we go
back to them. Then, let me just remind you coming
up later this morning, we're gonna speak with the President
General of the Universal African People's Organization, Brother Zaki Burrudi.
And later this week you're going to hear from a
critical thinking expert and also reparations advocate, doctor David Horn.
Also clinical psychologist, doctor George we Grew will be here

(02:05:01):
and Afrocentric Afrocology professor I should say from Temple University,
Doctor and R. Duff will also join us. So if
you're in Baltimore, make sure you keep your radio locked
in on ten ten w LB, or if you're in
the DMV, you're on FM ninety five point nine and
AM fourteen fifty w o L Barbara MLTEP brother saying,
God said, did you if you could detail some of
the platforms are going to be discussing the convention. It's

(02:05:23):
that I think there's twelve of them are going to
be discussed this weekend.

Speaker 13 (02:05:27):
Yes, so they are. At the convention. We will be
dealing with what we're defined as the twelve articles foundation
articles which would develop into a declaration of mandates, and
that first the first article is culture Restoration. The second
article is economic power. The second article is social transformation

(02:05:48):
that no correction. The third article Social transformation. The four
article African Center of Education, forward slash, socialization, Article five,
Africans centered healthcare, Article six, Scientific mastery, Article seven, Technological Advancement,
Article eight, Political Power, Article nine, Agricultural sustainability, Article ten,

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National Security, Article eleven, Spiritual Alignment, and Article twelve African Sovereignty.
So each article what requires the work that we would
do will be developing the resolution statements that would go
underneath each of those articles. And those resolution statements are

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in the in the in one system. They are action
statements if you can will, but those are the things
that we are we will be agreed upon saying this
is what we are going to do to bring dispart
article into full realization. And we're not saying that's gonna
happen in one year, but we don't. We land it out.
And then we want to align our organizations with the document.

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Some of our organizations are already aligned with it, some
are not. But because we are part of this convention,
we are willing to use this document that will govern
how we will operate organizationally, because it's only through organizations
that we are going to move ourselves forward in this
long march of trying to come out of these conditions.

Speaker 1 (02:07:17):
Good to hear that seventeen away from the top hand.
Let me ask you this though about an MOTEP. What
are you doing to weed out the people who may
try to disrupt your your convention or your organization. You
talked about Govey. We know somebody sold out Govey. Somebody
showed out Fred Hampton, and there we got. If we
got infiltrators traders in all of our organizations, what are

(02:07:39):
you doing to weed them out so they don't derail
what you're trying to do.

Speaker 13 (02:07:45):
That's a that's so I'll deal with that. That's an
offline conversation. However, you know, any above ground organization, if
you work in above ground, there's always the possibilities of
an infiltrator roll them up in there. I think that,
you know, one of the things that we would have
to do, and and that be God is forever be

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is to forever be on God and making sure that
we are developing the proper people and having the organizations
organized within the organizations, you know, but to the event itself,
the convention, we we are mindful that this may occur,
and we have things in place to deal with that.

(02:08:29):
I won't mention what those things are, but there are
things in place to deal with that if any of
that presents itself over this weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:08:37):
Yeah, I was just wanting to know that you that
you're aware that that might happen. Yeah, we don't want
you to give up the goods, but yeah, just just
let us know that you're aware that that might happen,
because you know, I'm brother saying God kind of test
to this because whenever they we're trying to come together,
there's always people trying to disrupt our gatherings, brother saying God.

Speaker 4 (02:08:56):
Yes, I want to add to what what Bubbara Hermelchrup said,
you know, because certain things we don't talk about publicly,
but I want to make it clear that each one
of these groups have or facilitators to keep the focus moving.
If anything should occur to not be on course, there
is means to address it. Many of us that are
come into this group, I mean come into this convention,

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have our own systems in place to check in balance
what you just said. It is not a time to
talk about that, but we are very much aware of that.
The Garbi movement has been around for over one hundreds
of our years. We are very clear that's why we
consider ourselves a rehabilitating brand. But we're just one of
many groups that are coming to bring our expertise, our spirit, energy,

(02:09:43):
and our power. And then also we're protected by the
power of the spirit of the ancestors. So I want
to make it clear to anybody that may be listening
to this that think that they can come cause any issue,
there will be ways and means to address it, as
we always do. And Carl, I want to make it clear.
I thank you for that question, but we the you

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and I A is very conscious of that. We're very
clear of how that moves. But it is very important
for us to address it in our own ways because
we've been around long enough to understand how to do
that and how.

Speaker 6 (02:10:17):
To move forward.

Speaker 4 (02:10:18):
But I'm just speaking for my particular involvement with my government,
THEACRR twenty twenty. Many groups have ways of addressing it,
as brother Mlchups said the PLM, but us coming together
is a sign of our power. Many of us are
not coming that aren't already organized, but it is important
for us not to think about not organizing and collectively

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coming together with other groups. Some groups may be together
for one year, two years, some one hundred, but all
of us have an opportunity to come together and build
together moving forward. Organization requires organizing with others who are organized,
which will give us the kind of collective power to
address any issue, particularly securing ourselves from any possible infiltration

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or even ignorance. Because the Yurubu virus is not just
in people outside of African descent, some of our own
skin folks are not really ken folks, so we'd be
on the watch all the time, as we always are.
I hope I didn't say too much outside the box
bro the mo motel, but I want to keep it clear. Everybody, listen,

(02:11:29):
this ain't no joke. This is real organization and moving forward.
The ancestors are in many of us, and we're serious
about moving forward.

Speaker 1 (02:11:40):
Gotcha t have away from the top of the hour, MB,
do you have something anything special for the young people?
You know, especially the young people in Baltimore. They've been
much maligned and it's only a few of them acting
wilding out and acting creating out. All the young people
in Baltimore behaving like that. But it's just something for
those who have lost their way that it will be

(02:12:00):
attracted to them, or something that you have specially for Uh,
carved out in this convention that speaks directly to their needs.

Speaker 13 (02:12:09):
So I would say the convention itself does in a
general sense. In a more specific sense, it'll be about
whatever those resolutions that we designed to put in place.
Now this is graduate bought their question, because this is
a convention that we are asking you know that you
know babies and toddlers. This is not a convention where

(02:12:30):
they can be We're not We're not saying, you know,
bring everybody, because like I said, it's a very focused
convention and everybody that's being the participants need to be
able to be focused in in terms of our younger group,
in terms of teenagers, are we going to be addressed.
They're gonna We're gonna dress the young people through addressing

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our with people. And some of the organizations like Barber
Singl was saying that that's attendant are already doing things
to work with young people's case important Like about my
personal organization, Yes, we deal with young people. We have
things in place already in Baltimore City where we addressing
the young people. We have process where we deal with
the young young women. We got process where we deal

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with the young boys. And there are several several other
organizations in Baltimore City. We know they work with young people,
so the young people are are covered as well as
our elderly people. Like it's gonna be a very comprehensive approach.
It's gonna be We're not gonna rush developing our resolution statements.
We're gonna think everything through clearly. We're gonna, you know,

(02:13:35):
have the proper discussions to ensure that we are dressing
everything they need to be dressed. So we move out.
We know we're moving in sync and we're moving to
move our people forward.

Speaker 1 (02:13:47):
Got you turn away from the top. Bob and Buffalo
has a question for you, fellas is online three grand
rising Bob A question for brother sang bay, I'm boba,
m o.

Speaker 17 (02:13:56):
Tap, I'm blushit love family question? Is there a way
for people to participate virtually? And an additional question is
if I have more information about electricity? I guess I'll
ask the first first question that Bible say go can

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take the sacopone. So in terms of virtually, no, there
is no virtual option at all.

Speaker 6 (02:14:21):
With this with just the convention.

Speaker 11 (02:14:26):
Sorry to hear that, I like to check it out,
but well, well, brother, what will come out of the
convention will definitely be shared with other people who want
to be reconnected.

Speaker 4 (02:14:38):
This is not an opportunity just for if you can't
make it, you still will get an opportunity to hear
some of the positive outcome. But in terms of that,
that leads right into what electricity is all about. Electricity
is something that is innate with all of us. You know,
once you go into you know, this concept of electricity

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is very, very imp important because electricity is actually black love,
black connection, black togetherness, black understanding, our ancestors black. It's
the melaniness in African people. So when we say electricity,
we're calling all brothers and sisters to understand. You have
the internal ability to return to your traditional greatness. If

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you tap into knowing yourself, tap into your ancestors, tap
into your creator. However you see the most high, tap
into that energy because we have that kind of power
to bring back up. It is spiritual, it is it
is scientific, it is revolutionary. It is necessary. When we dance,

(02:15:43):
we form our show electricity. When we sing, we show
our electricity. When we organize, we show our electricity. When
we love one another, we show our electricity. So electricity
is a universal.

Speaker 6 (02:15:56):
Issue.

Speaker 4 (02:15:57):
Uh, it's a it's a it's a it's a scientific issue.
I could go on and on and on, but I'm
giving you the basics of where the concept of blatricity
comes from. It wasn't just created, it's a fact. We
have that out of life, that's electricity, out of love,
it's pleactricity, out of moving forward is blactricity. Connecting with

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Africans on the continent, connecting with your traditional greatness. What
built the pyramid is with blactricity. But we have gotten
away from knowing ourselves and utilizing our electricity properly. It's
not just black power. Black power came in existence to
go against white power. Electricity is the source of everything.
And I want to clarify that because we will be

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dealing with this issue in a lot of other ways
of times, giving clarity to brothers and sisters. It's a
movement going on. It's a electricity movement, but it's reconnecting
to our African power, traditional power, whether or not it
be through our con Euraba competition, that's power. And a

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lot of people need to understand that we're not talking
about individual power. We're talking about collective power. And Blacktu
City is just a concept that brings all of that together.
So it blends in with our race first, it blends
in with scientific Pan Africanism, It blends in with a
whole lot of things. But we need to understand that
when you when you feel it, you know it, when

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black people come together, you know what that Black Tu
City is all about. I hope I was clear.

Speaker 1 (02:17:30):
Brother, all right, thanks Bob, Thanks Bob, Bob reaching out
to us from Buffalo sticks away from the top ere
Uh about a motep Is it going to be a
follow up? Because you know, people one of the critiques
and because we talked with Reverend Willie Wilson about a
million man march, one of the critiques of the million
man March, it wasn't a follow up?

Speaker 14 (02:17:50):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:17:50):
Is it going to be a follow up to this convention?

Speaker 6 (02:17:53):
Absolutely?

Speaker 13 (02:17:54):
And that's a great question. So one of the things
that I would say is I'm going to see this
up front is a follow up. I'm quite sure that
we will be. But I will leave that call to
the conveniers because I may put I put the call out,
but we are collectrically convening it. And that's another thing
I think that's different in our convention. It's a collective convenience.

(02:18:15):
So whatever is decided that the convention is where we're
gonna go at, you know, because I don't want to
make it seel like you know, I'm gonna be the
one that's gonna keep putting.

Speaker 5 (02:18:23):
A call out.

Speaker 13 (02:18:24):
I don't want to make it feel like it's about me,
because it's not about me.

Speaker 9 (02:18:26):
It's about us.

Speaker 13 (02:18:28):
But the follow up is necessary because we want to
we want to demonstrate the power of what we created.
So we we are clear that there must be a
follow up. That must be how we execute what it
is that we discussed, because we just can't discuss and
not execute. So because we know that now I would
say that we will be a follow up with that

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file up look like we would, we would define it
and deturn it ourselves. But we now are at a
point in history and our development as a people that
we know that when we meet and begin to organize,
that I organizational efforts must extend into practical demonstration, and
that's where we at. So yes, we're going to follow
in some capacity, and not once and not once. This

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is just the first step. This is just the first step.
We are we speaking we are we are we are
in the process of seeing something magnificent and something profound
and something monumental through to conclusion. There is no backing out,
there's no retreatment. We are hit, we are clear, and
we locking arms were going forward. So add to that, Yeah,

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this is very important. You just give people a basic example.
In nineteen twenty when Marcus Garvey and the U and
I aac L held the International Convention. The first one
we established the Declaration of Rights of African Negro Peoples
of the World. Out of that came fifty four different things.
But one of them, and this should give a good

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example of everybody, was to recognize that the red, black
and green flag, this was a declaration, was the flag
of all African people. Now you segue forward and you
see the red, black and green flag everywhere because this
was practical application that came from a declaration. And keep
in mind that were several others. So when we talk

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about coming outside of this what Emojeff just said collectively
coming out of this convention, and many conventions have been
held that have had principles and values and focus that
came out of them. It depends on the work after
the convention of how we move forward. But I was
trying to get people a perfect example.

Speaker 1 (02:20:39):
Right hold, I thought, right there, brother Singh, I'll let
you give you an example. On the other side of
the short break, three minutes away from the tafe, our
family just checking in. I guess he just heard his
voice as brother Singo bay A's a Goffey along with
bobbamotep from Baltimore. They're having the Race first convention in
that city this weekend. You want more information, reach out
to us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight
seventy six and we'll take it phone calls next and

(02:21:01):
Grand Rising family, thanks for starting your Tuesday with us.
And this morning we're speaking with Gafyed, Brother Seano Baye,
also Bobba m O Tepaly discussing the Race for US
convention that's going to take place in Baltimore this weekend.
Before we left, brother Seango, I'll let you finish your thoughts.

Speaker 6 (02:21:16):
Yeah, I'll be.

Speaker 4 (02:21:17):
Real brief, but I was just given an example of
the potential that can manifest coming out of the convention
by using just one issue, the red, black and green flag,
which came out of African people coming from around the
world and made that collective decision that this would be
a flag for all African people and look at where

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it's at today, just giving people an example. But anyway,
I want to stop right there because of the time
and let brother Baba m Otip share how brothers and
sisters can get a little more information on how they
can register and that. But anyway, cal I thank you,
I thank your listeners, and let me be very clear,
this is no pun intended against anybody doing what they

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think is best. All mus have a calling and as
our good brother Renoko Rashidi always say, everybody can do something.
We expect people to do the work and work. But
but what we're doing is following our calling and this
is not just the calling of one group. The great
news about it, thanks to the PLM, they're pulling together
a coalition of organized entities as well as individuals to

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come together to put our minds together and to come
out with some type of collective cooperative work going forward.

Speaker 1 (02:22:32):
Got you too after the topic, I just remind you
coming up, Mama Taylor going to speak with brother Zaqui Brudi.
But uh Boba m Otep, the event is we can't
hacking folks as brother saying, go mention, how we're gonna
get more information?

Speaker 9 (02:22:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (02:22:47):
Great, So the best way to get information on it
is just to go to this website www Dot t
l M nine five dot org. And that's www dot
p l M nine five dot org. And as sure
as you come into the website, the first thing you're

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going to see is the National Race First Convention, and
everything from there is just following prompts.

Speaker 1 (02:23:15):
All right for the folks who are not online, what
time and where is the event going to be held?

Speaker 13 (02:23:20):
So yes, Friday, September twenty sixth, the event is going
to be held at at five pm, fifty five to
twenty five Harford Road, Baltimore, Maryland two one two one four.
That's just a meet and greets. The major sessions are
going to happen on September twenty seven, which is Saturday,

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from twelve pm at fifteen oh five Utah Police, Baltimore,
Maryland two one two one seven. And on Sunday, September
twenty eight, eleven thirty am three until three thirty pm,
same location, fifteen oh five Utah Police, Baltimore, Maryland two
one two one seven.

Speaker 1 (02:24:03):
All right, thank you, bubba m brother saying go bye,
thank you for putting this on and thank if you
keep being the spirit of Marcus gave your life.

Speaker 4 (02:24:10):
Yeah, thank you, brother Carl.

Speaker 1 (02:24:12):
Listeners, all right, family for after the top day, Alice,
let's bring up the thank you for fellas. It's bringing
the President General of the African People's Organization Universally African
People's Organization. That will be one brother Zaki Buruti out
of Saint Louis, Brother Zaki Grand Rising, welcome back to
the program.

Speaker 6 (02:24:31):
Well Grand Rising to you, my brother called Nelson, and
like always, I just wanted to compliment you for providing
the information that's necessary for our community. Our people need
to be fed positive information and you are always on points.
So may God continue to bless you. And uh you

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know you keep up what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (02:24:57):
And thanks for the kind words. But for the nough
folks who were unfamiliar with the univers Alavcan People's Organization,
before you introduce your guests, tell us give us about
give us some background on that on your group.

Speaker 6 (02:25:08):
Okay, the Universal African People's Organization, there is an organization
that came into existence on April fourth, nineteen eighty nine,
really as an extension of my candidacy for governor state
of Missouri, which was in nineteen eighty eight. However, I
had ran in nineteen eighty four really out of a
concept that was put together by an organization I had

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had at that particular time called a Caucus for Community Progress.
In nineteen eighty four, there were not one black governor
in this country as well as out of one hundred
that's out of fifty governors, out of one hundred US senators,
not one was black. So we decided to put together
what we call Missouri's first State Wire Black People's Political

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Convention in nineteen eighty four, and that was the time
also that Jesse Jackson had entered the race for President
of the United States. And we had three concrete objectives.
One was to educate whoever was in attendance to state
in attendance to state politics, to educate them around state politics.

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Second was to draw up a platform of concerns impacting
black Missourians, and the theory was to encourage black people
to run statewide. Originally, we were looking at running an
all black slate because we have five executive positions in
the state of Missouri. However, we got a lot of pushback,
and so we decided to just go for one, which

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would be the governor's position. We had a couple hundred
people that was in attendance, a number of the local
elected officials as well as that time the House represented
the Congressional leader, William Clay Senior, as well as a
congressman from Ohio, Louis Stoke. Everybody was rob rob. We

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did real good. We came out with the platform, but
we couldn't get nobody to run for governor. And after
asking many of the elected officials with they assumed that responsibility.
So it was in that spirit practicing where I preached
in terms of seeking power. That's how I ended up

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running for governor. And I was only a black candidate
a month seventh came in fourth the first time. Second
time I ran and there was a short campaign for
a month campaign. Second time I ran, I started much
earlier and it was more organizing as well as I
was endorsed by the Honorable Minister Lewis Phara Khan as

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for a governor and shocked a lot of the political
pundits because in the state that was only ten percent black,
I was able to get over nineteen percent of the
vote total in the state at that time, and from
that point on my closest advisors, we wanted to continue
the movement for a political empowerment as well as addressed

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other social issues like police balance and what have you,
as well as look at what's taking place world where
we created a Universal Africa. At first we called the
Universal African American People's Organization. We dropped the name American
UH and UH and to that end, we're an advocacy
organization as well as you know, activist organizations speaking on

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the issues impacting us, as such as the lack of
proportionate political representation with symptom means that whatever percentage we
are as a people on the national level of government,
state level of government, local levels of government, then we
should have that percentage of political power. But the reality
is that there's a half million UH publicly elected offices

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across America and at this time they put project that
we are fourteen percent of the United States population. We
hold less than about five percent. Even though we do
see black elected officials in various cities, it's still not
quantitatively to the level that it should be. And the
clearest example is at the highest levels of government like governors.

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Out of fifty governors, remember us saying in nineteen eighty
four it was zero black governess. Today is only one
out of Maryland Westmore, when you look at the US Senate,
out of one hundred, there's only five when we should
if according to our population nationally, should be fourteen percent,
so fourteen US senators that should be of us from

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our community. And on the governorship out of fifty fourteen
percent is around five for six at least, and those
levers of power. As long as we don't stay in
this country and spend our tax dollars, then we need
to have a say so in terms of the expenditures
of dollars. That's why it's very important as we see it,

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to utilize the right to vote, and then also because
it can impact our communities economically as well as social policies.
Along with that, we have a pan African view and
we push the concept that there are to be a
unification of Africa, whereby Africa is first of all militarily

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as equal to the Western world as well as an
economic uh a power house on the world stage. And
so to that end too, in terms of as an organization,
we try to practice what we preached. We were founded
on April the fourth, that's the assassination date of doctor

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King on a historical left, so we commemorate. We have
commemora yearly commemoration programs and able to forth is our
celebration of the founding of the organization and commemorating the
assassination of doctor King and making our commitment that we
were following terms of trying to create some type of

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social justice and equity for our people. We also annually
celebrate Malcolm X L Hodgman Lika L. Shabaz on his
birthday or near his birthday because of his great analysis
of what takes place in this country and his advocacy
for a change. And we celebrate the honorable Marcus Massage

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Guard born much which our principles lie in his concept
and in fact, we just held our thirty sixth annual
celebration of his life this past August the seventeenth, as
well as we uh. It was an accident program packed

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to the house and we had some excellent drumming just
prior to that in terms of a global drumming to
salute his legacy that we supported. And then I'm proud
to say as an organization on that level of practicing
what we preach that we've been able to deliver supplies,

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not only to Africa in terms of needed supplies, such
as in twenty three we shipped a container full of
four hundred and fifty boxes of clothing and medical supplies
to Zimbabwe, which I went there to dedicate. The following year,
we shipped about five hundred and forty boxes of food, water,

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clothing supplies, educational material to Haiti in the wake of
the hurricane that had hit that island. I think it
was two thousand and four. Then in two thousand and six,
after some opiums here in the Saint Louis area approached
me about providing free books I mean books to help

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fight the literacy in Ethiopia, we were able to shift
nine thousand books to Ethiopia, which I went there to
dedicate to a non for profit organization to fight the
literacy there. And then in twenty fifteen we did likewise
ten thousand books to help build a library in Ghana.

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So I say all that to say that we try
to practice what we preach. As I mentioned too, we've
been on the forefront of police violence and we called
for our community control of the police department with simply
means basically number one, that every police department should reflect
the ethnicity of the community in which stayed patrolled. That

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every officer need to live within that community in which
they are hired, and that there are affected civilian review
boards with subpoena power to address allegations of police violence
and disrespect to the community. We were very involved in
the Michael Brown, the Ferguson uprising. In fact, I was

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the coul chair of the Michael Brown Leadership Coalition at
that time. And so we've been involved in a lot
of different battles here in Saint Louis. And you know,
they say Missouri is just showed me statement. So we've
been trying to show our people what needs to happen. Finally,

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our vision is to build a movement on a spiritual
level of one hundred and forty four thousand like minded
people who would agree with our platform, our preamble and
our motto. And our motto comes out of the great
honorable Marxism Masside Guardy, who said one guy, one aim,

(02:34:56):
one destiny. We changed aim the word aimed to go. Well,
it's still in the principle of the honorable Market Discovery,
And I used the title President in general in terms
of respect to his memory, because he had that title
and we have to always remember he was the greatest
mass organizer of our people here in this country, and

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it's been white washed many times, of course, in our
public school systems and throughout society of the great works
that he implemented. And to that end, you know, we're
getting ready to embark upon another major international relief effort,
and that's to the great country of Gambia. And i'd

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like to, if it's all right, introducer a young lady.

Speaker 1 (02:35:46):
Yeah, before you do that, though, brother Zachi, a question
for you, because not much has changed since you formulated
the Universal, the Universal African People's Organization, and part of
it is voting. Voting. It seems like in our committed
it's a new we're not going to the polls. What's
going on there?

Speaker 6 (02:36:04):
Well, you know, the sad thing about that is a
couple of things that I think have made that impact
of people not turning out. Number one is, first of all,
when many people just don't see their lives being changed
from the negative conditions that they feel that they're into

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positive And then with the concept of the hope of
voting changing in some have become disillusion and then too
where one of the other issues is those blacks who
have been elected government, elected to different offices do not

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really address some of the issues. I mean, we have
a case. I'm not saying everybody, I'm saying, but there's
a number of folks that really don't have the love
for the community that they should to implement social policy
that will help uplift the community. So those are some
of the basic problems. But then to my to those
who say yo and criticize the voting process, are else

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people not voting?

Speaker 14 (02:37:15):
They have to.

Speaker 1 (02:37:17):
Yeah, Hold, that's all right there, I'll let you finish
that thought. On the other side, we've got to step
aside for a few moments, brother Zaki. And also I'll
let you introduce your your ambassador to the family as well.
It's seventeen alf the top of the family, I guess
is the President General of the Universal African People's Orientation.
Brother Zaki, Brudy, you want to join this conversation, reach
out to us. Eight hundred and four or five zero

(02:37:37):
seventy eight seventy six will get you in and we'll
take your calls next and grind Rising family, and thanks
for making us part of your Morning richual each and
every morning checking us out here on Radio one. I
guess that is brother Zaki Brudi who apps to be
the Universal African People's Organization General President General. Let me
get that right, brother Zaki. I let you finish your thought,

(02:37:58):
then you can introduce your ambassad going to us.

Speaker 6 (02:38:01):
Okay. And also I failed to mention that our organization
also publish a quarterly newspaper that's called The African News World.
And if anybody may be interested, they could go to
our website which is www dot UAPO dot org and
we have many of our newspapers listed there and we

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have different distribution points of our newspaper throughout the country
in about five or six states. Also, we have an
internet talk program that's called Conversation with Zaki Burruty that
people can google. So to that end, I'd like to
introduce a young lady by to her, I may call
to your listening audience that I've asked her to be

(02:38:45):
our ambassador to Gambia. And I've known this young lady
for about a year and she's been on a couple
of the shows for our organization dealing with economic empowerment
and just most recently we reconnected and she's here of
the British Foundation Development Cooperation and she would have done

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a very positive program in the country of Gambia that
taught my attention. It was similar to the humanitarian efforts
that we have done in the past. So we have
as an organization made a commitment to collaborate with her
movement to provide these services to the country of Gambia.

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And I let her share exactly the concept and what
that is all about. And her name is Kendre Phipps.
Miss Kendre Phipps.

Speaker 1 (02:39:46):
All right, ambasslor Grand Rising and welcome to the program.

Speaker 18 (02:39:51):
Thank you, Thank you so much, Carl. I truly appreciate
it and definitely it's always exciting to be on shows
that are connected into our community. Again, my name is
Ambassador Kendrick Phipps and I'm the CEO of the Bridge
Foundation Development Corporation and we launched back doing COVID and

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our goal was just to service our communities, our veterans,
our African American veterans community and luck with faith, luck
or faith would have it. I'm at a conference and
I meet the youngest there in the Kuntar region of
the Gambia, and he shared a story with me that
he's providing sanitary napkins for his girl to keep them

(02:40:33):
in school, and he acts what I help. And it
took some time for us to gavanize ourselves and find
a system that would work, that would get our project,
our products to the end users. We were able to
do that and so we started last year back in November,
and we have touched over eight hundred and sixteen girls.

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We've delivered over eleven thousand sanitary napkins. And this is
a pilot program. Currently we're in five schools and now
we're ready to scale. And so, knowing that we've delivered
over eleven thousand sanitary napkins, I end up going to
the Kuntar region, which is a rural area in the Gambia,

(02:41:14):
to do an assessment and I realized that our system
was working even though we have barriers. Right, you never
really think in the United States a girl is not
going to school because she don't have sanatoris doesn't have
sanitary napkins. And we launched a psycho for suc FAS
last year in November and it's been running ever since.

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And when I made that trip over in May just
to do an assessment, and I realized a couple of things.
Even though they're ongoing challenges working alongside a lead teacher,
the principal is able to work alongside of the lead teacher.
And as students come and they ask for sanitary napkins

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and a system put it in place to document the
girls that are coming. We're providing the sanatory napkins as
a way to bridge the girls to bring them back
to school, because when they don't have sanatory napkins, they're
not in school. And so our ultimate goal with this
pilot program was a polo to transformation, So.

Speaker 7 (02:42:20):
That's what we were looking for.

Speaker 18 (02:42:22):
So we knew that the program was scalable because the
principles were involved, the local government was involved, and so
now were made a decision to look at education, emprownerment
and economic development. And now our goal is to launch
We launched a two for two campaign and that's two

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for two challenge and our goal is to reach a
million people donating just two dollars and sharing it with
two friends. And our goal at the end of the
year to have launch Phase one, which is she Rise.
We're looking for community to create a community owned manufacturing
facility called she Rise, where in that area we will

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build a facility, hire the women that are in that community,
launch a workforce development program to hire the youth to
come work at our facility, and alone with that, the
sports component, So we launched four teams while I was
there in May. Four soccer teams. So we're gonna support

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four soccer teams and using the athletic on a broader
appeal in that community. So we're very very excited about
currently where we are. We are looking for the our
impact and I know that we're doing it just by
being on your show, and we're super super excited about it.
And the ongoing challenges is really simple. In that area,

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they're still fighting for the basic access to clean drinking water.
We have not we're own, We're not even at fifty
percent of that particular population is still underserved. And I'm
so excited about us launching the two for two campaign
and our goal is a grassroot effort to make a

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difference in the Gambia.

Speaker 1 (02:44:16):
Well good for you and ax up into the Gambia. Actually,
we took a group to the Gambia and so the
mosque that that was the Minister farca on finished building.
Alex Haley had started it and then he had some
health challenges. He had it and had to drop out,
and Minister Farcahon finished the mosque for the right there
and drew free. I think here's where the mosque is.
But thank you for doing that, Ambassador Kendra, and thank

(02:44:38):
you for being so thoughtful. Eight hundred and four or
five zero seventy eight to seven sixty. Got some folks
who want to talk to both of you guys right now.
Brother Sayku's up. First, he's online. One he's calling from Baltimore,
Grand Rising. Brother, Sayku, you're on with Ambassador Kendra. And
also Brother Zaki.

Speaker 6 (02:44:54):
Johmbo.

Speaker 9 (02:44:56):
Congratulations for the work that y'all do. But listen to
this doctor Haki Madi Buie, he used to say years ago,
and I'm a paraphrase is what he said in the poem.
Don't talk about organizing the world for self reliance. You
can't organize your own house, your own block, or your

(02:45:16):
own streets. Start with that which is near. It's a
slow but effective process, and it's better to be slow
and effected than fast ineffected. And seen all over the
world talking nonsense. Right now in most of our communities
in the United States of America, number one problem that

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I suspect most, if not all Africans would common sense
would agree.

Speaker 6 (02:45:43):
With, is that.

Speaker 9 (02:45:46):
Crime is the number one problem. We have to get
these black criminals under control by any means necesservice. What
y'all think about that?

Speaker 6 (02:45:57):
All your comment and I do with some of it
in terms of we do need to do block by
block organisms, but we still have to have an international
perspective as well as a national perspective as well as
the issue of crime. I'm glad you raised that because

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right in front of me is one of our early
newspapers where the headline we must stop the senseless and
rantant murders and crimes in our communities. And we break
down on the statistical sadness of that analysis whereby we

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look at just purely murder victims. And we did a
study from nineteen eighty three through nineteen ninety one, and
the total murders in America, and America is a violance country,
it was one hundred and sixty eight thousand plus Based
on race, it was eighty six thousand, nine hundred and

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thirty seven white, seventy seven thousand and eighty seven black,
which the black population was only thirteen percent, Yet we
had forty six percent of the total murder victims were black.
So that's sod to crime, parts of crime in our community,
but we have to look at and we have to

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address it. But we have to look at the underlying
causes of crime, and that's a social structure that has
been designed to disenfranchise masses of young people so whereby
they can be fuel for this prison industrial industry. As
well as the key confusion going in our community when

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we look at the when you look at a public
educational system that basically has been broken by laws, especially
the last thirty twenty years years, that doesn't teach our
true history which would motivate people to have a greater respect.
As well as we don't have a program a curriculum

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that guys our young people into skill fit positions such
as architects, biologists, engineers, etc. Then you have in our
community the disproportionate number of drug facilities. I'm talking about
alcohol establishments as well as drugs coming from outside of

(02:48:34):
the community such as the fentanyl and the heroine of
the you know that was a great use among our people.
So you have a structure and then you've got systematic
redlining of economic development in our community along with lack
of proper political development, and so you got the ingredients

(02:48:55):
that we have prime and I totally agree we need
to deal with dealing with crime, but we got to
have a look at the overall issue and those are
the issues that we have to be addressed. And I'm
probably to say probably to say as I'm a I'm
a former educator and I was very outspoken in the classroom.

(02:49:16):
In fact, I was taken out in the classroom for
my outspokenness. And have written a couple of booklets, one
entitled Challenge Educational book. This challenge the building of a clean,
prosperous Black community through our educational system as opposed to
the Conspiracy and the second one the Challenge Part two
Can We Do It? And that was out of my

(02:49:37):
observations of the negative appearances in the public schools impacting
our children and we as well as another factor that
leads to crime. It's his fifty I call it fifthy
crazy kind of music that's been promoted by the cooperations

(02:49:58):
to also corrupt our people. Post mans and keep them
all confused. So we got a big problem. And then
the lack of the kind of infrastructure that we should have,
like organized sports teams throughout the communities, of swimming pools open.
It's it's a whole lot that goes into the crime issue.

(02:50:18):
So thank you for your question. I hope I answer
some parts of it.

Speaker 1 (02:50:23):
Let me add it and I thank you. Brother say cool.
Let me ask you this though, because we'll come and
break Let me ask you this. Let I got some
tweet questions for the ambassador question, brother Zaki, what what
can we do because a lot of times when we
see the problems in our community, we blame it on
the oppressor of urugus the man. But there are some
things that we as a people can do. We you know,

(02:50:44):
instead of put pointing the finger to someone else, what
are some of the things we can do to reduce
the crime in our community.

Speaker 6 (02:50:50):
Okay, that's that's another great question called some some basic things.
First of all, everybody needs to belong to an organization.
There's a track record of speaking truth to out and
implement programs to help uplift and educate our people. That's
one thing. Then you have to do some basic community work.
And the example, and I'm proud of this that you know,

(02:51:14):
every organization in church we should be adopting schools if
they allowed the school principal's conduing the for you to happen,
you know with them, and so like, we have adopted
an elementary school here in Saint Louis called Wallbridge Elementary School.
So we make sure at the beginning of the school

(02:51:35):
year they got plenty of schools supplied and mid year
we break sure they got scull caps and catch us
in the depressed area scull caps, gloves for us and
what have you. We also adopted a high school, normally
high school where the last couple of years we've been
providing black oriented books such as the Autobios for Malcolm

(02:51:57):
X and also the Coldest When Ever by Sister Soldier
giving them to the senior classes of those high schools.
Some basic stuff. It's what everybody need to do. Start
and again re emphasize it. You need to belong to
an organization, or if no organization fits you or what

(02:52:21):
you fear needs to be done, then you start your
own to do something positive good in the community. So
again I hope i'd answer the question.

Speaker 1 (02:52:30):
All right, twenty five away from the top Our question
for Ambassador Cadre. This is from Sister Kitty and Kelly.
She says, please ask the ambassador how can we help
to get the sanitary products and give to assist with
the building of the factory.

Speaker 18 (02:52:47):
Oh, I appreciate that so much. So what we did,
We've launched the two for two Challenge, and the two
for two Challenge is the number two fo R two
Challenge dot Award and so two for two Challenge. You
can go to that site. You can donate two dollars,
share with two people and our ultimate goal is a

(02:53:09):
million people by the end of the year. And by
donating two dollars, you're actually keeping a girl in school
for an entire month. And those funds will also the
use to do Phaise one in the she Rhymes manufacturing facility.

Speaker 1 (02:53:27):
All right, thank you, Sister Kitty, listening to us out
in Cali. Twenty four away from the top day. Let's
take the break and we come back. Brother Bill's got
a question for both of you. Guys. Bills in Baltimore
and family YouTube can join our discussion. Reach out to
us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six,
and we'll take your phone calls next and grand rise
in family, thanks for rolling with us on this Tuesday. Morney,

(02:53:48):
I guess is brother Zachi Brudi from the Universal of
Amthcan People's Organization. He's the president general. Also it's Ambassador
Kenchrimp Phipps is with us. She's Ambassador to the Gambia
eight hundred four to five zero, eight seventy six. And
I'm gonna call to get in on this conversation. Brother
ZACKI did you finish your thought?

Speaker 6 (02:54:07):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:54:07):
Yes, okay, and it was I think it was ambassador
the call called.

Speaker 6 (02:54:14):
But before my brother Bill comes home, I would like
to also make an announcement of uh that our organization,
along with Bridge Foundation Development Corporation. UH, we're committed to
by the first date of Black History February first, then

(02:54:35):
a container of books to help build a library in Gambia.
And uh so I'm very excited about that project and
we're just announced that this is the first public announcement
of those efforts. And UH at late at times, you know,
when I'm back on your show, I can give updates, okay,

(02:54:56):
But anyway, that's what we'll be doing as our international
effort for twenty six great deal.

Speaker 1 (02:55:02):
Thank you, brother Zaki. As you mentioned, Bill's waiting for
us in Baltimore's online too. Grand Rise and Bill you're
on with brother Zaki, Ambassador Kendra.

Speaker 8 (02:55:11):
Yes, sir, talk abothermore into to you and Zach Kid
as well as the ambassador, and thank you for this
opportunity to call call you know, you know Za Kid
is one of my mentors and I love and respect Zai.
Can't thank you for everything, But I guess my question
becomes this, Zaki, is that you know, I understand how
important it is for us to participate in the political system,
but at the same time, it's necessary that we talk

(02:55:33):
about this. This system has to be torn down because
everything they have taught us, even in grade school, has
proven to be a live about the political system. I mean,
number one, they say it's no party nor no person
above the law. Yet you know, we got Democrats that
cannot stop with Donald Trump and and and the party
is doing so. If it's nobody above the law, then

(02:55:57):
it don't make no difference how many people. Who's the majority,
who's the minority. We're talking about violating the laws and
and and and you know, respecting the constitution. So I
guess my question becomes this is that how do we
inspire people to get involved in politics when we recognize

(02:56:18):
that everything they teaching.

Speaker 6 (02:56:20):
Us or have taught us is a lie. In terms
of how this his system work, well, I guess, uh,
first of all, we have to understand from amount of
perspectives that we in low intensitive warfare that has always
been up on our communities since we've been over here.

(02:56:41):
And uh that uh in warfare as you engage in
different battles and different strategies to uh come back to
your enemy.

Speaker 4 (02:56:51):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (02:56:51):
And I agree that this system really is not really
designed for us for our development. Consis basically built to
own the exploitation and the racism. But like I had
did an article in our newspaper which on the heels
of the Ferguson uprising, which was some to the fact

(02:57:13):
police violence America owned tribe. Moving forward, how do we
respond as a collective people? Okay? And I put out
there about three options in my humble opinion. One option
was to fight for the reforms that you know we'd
be doing here in this country as far as more
political empowerment and economic investment. But of course, the structure

(02:57:39):
stand as it is. That's an option. Then another option is,
as the honorable Elijah Muhammad and the Honorable markets Guardy
advocated for, was that we separate. Now, the Honorable Elijah
Muhammad use was advocating separating separately into the Southern States.
So for that to happen, there needs to be a
mass migration southward so we can see at least political

(02:58:04):
power like state governments, which may lead to us being
able to separate quote unquote from this country. Then the
third was just to move totally to Africa or other
parts of the diaspora. And the fourth one I put
out there is a complete social really revolution. But in
order to tear down this system and to replace its mean,

(02:58:27):
if you and I have had many discussions, we need
to have armies of righteous people willing to buy as
matholm sy by any means necessary. And it would also
have to, and my humble opinion, involve matters of white
people in the spirit like John Brown and what have

(02:58:48):
you to make that happen, which in my opinion, would
be the best for humanity. Because this system is based
on an economic order that we defined as capitalism. That's
just purely profit motivated. So within those contextes, then each
person is duly bound to choose some method of struggle,

(02:59:12):
either fighting for social justice within the confiance of this
system or saying, hey, I'm getting the heck out of
this country, as Honorable Market's Guarderay and Elijah Muhammed with
teach in terms of separating from it, or actively get
involved to promote revolution. I just don't see us at

(02:59:33):
that point as far as revolution, even though in my
heart I wouldn't mind have to send it because I
know that would be best for humanity, and so that's
the best I can say. So as far as we
need a new brand if we stay in this country,
a new brand of political leadership that's not afraid to

(02:59:55):
speak truth to power and bring forth social programs of
a lit from to us as the people in their
particular forms of elected positions, I would say that. Uh so,
I hope I answered your question, Brother Bill. But Bob nine,
we got to do something everybody is doing with us

(03:00:17):
around and complaining.

Speaker 1 (03:00:20):
That's rights. Because what we're into here on this programming solutions,
and brother Zaki always has some solutions. Let me ask
the ambassador this question, though ambassad Kendrick, you started this program.
Is it a pilot programs you started just for the
Gambia or do you plan on expanding it not just
to uh to our brothers and sisters on the continent,

(03:00:40):
but maybe in South America the Caribbean. How how big
are your dreams?

Speaker 7 (03:00:46):
We have some very big dreams.

Speaker 18 (03:00:49):
And I'm so glad that you you asked that question
because even though the Palette program is there in the
Gambia in the Cultur region where I'm the ambassador and
our represented that particular region, once that facility is actually
up and running, our goal is to touch a couple
of countries about our right next door to us. So

(03:01:11):
we're looking at Senegal, We're looking at gaming You, We're
looking at Librria, and these are countries that have reached
out to say, yes, we would love for you to
come and definitely do a polot program and to embrace
our culture and to help our girls and women out.

(03:01:33):
So yeah, there are some lofty goals that we that
we currently have and Sierra Leone, they'll let me forget
that particular country too as well. And so we're we're
looking to hit a million women and girls across of
those those countries. So once the factory is up, now
we can serve it's built by us, made by us,

(03:01:53):
and for us, and and so we're very very excited
about that. And on the ground that's going to be
a local contribution of land and no Vinberg. The twenty
eight that's coming up, it's going to make our year
anniversary and we're headed back over to the Gambia and
we're very excited about a three day festival that would
be coming up, would be the Stone Circle Festival and

(03:02:15):
the Kutar region where we would celebrate our unniversary along
with their festivals. So there are some lofty gold that
we currently had and that is a phenomenal question.

Speaker 1 (03:02:27):
Ten away from the top, are there official languages French?
And it problems you know, navigating all these decisions and
do you speak French?

Speaker 18 (03:02:37):
Well, in the Countar region it's Warloff and it's English,
so there's no English, so there's no barrier there. In
the Puntar region and I don't speak Woloff yet, but
they speak English, so there's no there's no barrier there
in that Kuntar region.

Speaker 1 (03:02:58):
Well, explain about, ambassador, how we you received when you
went to the Gambia. You know, different countries, different African states,
they treat us differently. When you know, Ghana is very
receptive as we know, and the others are too, but
not as much as Ghana and up into thirteen different
African countries. But how receptive were they were the locals to.

Speaker 18 (03:03:18):
You, Oh my goodness, it was absolutely amazing. And I
always use this. Once you've seen, you can never unsee.
And they're known for their smiles and I felt extremely
at home. And to give you a quick example, they
don't believe that you should eat alone. No one should

(03:03:39):
eat alone. So there's a big bowl, there's a dish
where that's prepared every day and I'll use a dish.
It's like a chicken and a green style with potato dish,
and there's four spoons and it's four of us eating
out of one bowl. And that is real community. So

(03:04:00):
the people were very warm. The government provided transportation along
with security for me to go and visit all of
the five schools that are inside of the pilot program.
The regional Education director is on board. I had an
opportunity to meet with them and also in partnership with
the World Conference of Mayors because by going through an

(03:04:22):
event there. That's how I was able to meet their
Durrara and the rest has been history. Sell the people
in the Kuntar region. I felt at home and the
only difference was my clothing and they didn't make me.
We prayed together, so it truly felt like I was

(03:04:43):
at home.

Speaker 1 (03:04:46):
Good to hear that ate away from the top there.
Brother abdulis joined us from Baltimore's online One Grand Rising. Abdul,
you're on with ambassad Kendra and brother Zaki.

Speaker 19 (03:04:55):
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yes, my name is
Abdulla Chief Baluntas, a Ghanian as well, one of the
dual citizens that got it in twenty nineteen, and I
just wanted to share an experience that I had our organization.
I'm not sure, Ambassador, if you're familiar with the Diaspora
Africa Forum. Have you heard of the Dasal Forum death.

Speaker 5 (03:05:17):
Yes, I've heard of it, Okay.

Speaker 19 (03:05:19):
Yes, they're located in the Dubois Center. Earlier, a gentleman
said that he received a consignment and ten thousand books,
some of them Taghana our experience and we've been there
for eighteen years. Our experience is taught us that the
titles of those books. Sometimes when they're donated, they are

(03:05:40):
very clear, undisputed in terms of Gandhi, Martin Luther King,
American history, those titles are very clear. But you have
to read those books because they had us disseminating a
false version of history, a distortion of history, and we
know our story is sincerely reconcile. So right now, I

(03:06:01):
think there's a big movement because I just got a
consignment today and I can share some titles with you.
I have not gone through all of these yet, but
it bears all of the telltale signs when you get
when you get unsolicited donations of a container full of books,
then you thank them, but you look very closely as well.

(03:06:22):
So I'd like to connect with you to share with
some of the titles that I'm reviewing right now on
behalf of this organization. But I know what I'm looking for,
and I wanted to make you and others aware of
also what to look.

Speaker 6 (03:06:34):
For as well.

Speaker 1 (03:06:37):
All right, both of them will get their information before
they leave. Dylan, I thank you for your call because
I think this is what brother ZACKI. You were on
the book project, right, yeah, Yeah, I wanted.

Speaker 6 (03:06:48):
To speak to his comment. For our organization, we checked
every book before, we said, you know, in terms of
the concept of the book, and some were technical books,
but anything related to history. We made sure that it
was the kind of history, the real history for us

(03:07:09):
as a people, and so afrocentric history basically, you know,
true history. And I agree with the brother. We have
to be careful what we send to the people. And
that's why as an organization, as I said, we checked
the books before we sent them.

Speaker 1 (03:07:28):
Yeah, you also do more than books, and what else
do you do and what other countries are you involved?

Speaker 6 (03:07:33):
Going back to Zimbabwe, we shipped clothing and medical supplies.
That was in two thousand and three, I believe. And
then in Haiti it was a combination of items because
the island had been rocked by Hurricane Ivan, and we

(03:07:54):
shipped like again, clothing, medical supplies, UH school supplies also
and a combination of awada, you know, a combination just
UH things, basic needs that the people needed and hated
the wake of the hurricane. And then as I mentioned,

(03:08:15):
we did two projects with the books, one to Ethiopia
and the other to uh gid them all right.

Speaker 1 (03:08:26):
Hold on though, right becase we gotta let both of
you go far away from the top there. But how
can folks reach you? Let's start first with the ambassador.
How can folks reach you?

Speaker 18 (03:08:35):
Oh? Yeah, so you can reach me by going to
my bd f DC dot org and and so that's
our that's our main website. And again it's my b
f DC dot org, so my Bridge Foundation Development Corporation,
and you can reach me there. On that site there's

(03:08:57):
a contact page where you can reach out to us,
and we would love to make that connection. And along
with that, the number that you could dowal is six
one eight six nine one seven zero six one eight
six nine one seven zero. We're not afraid to answer
the phone.

Speaker 1 (03:09:18):
And so we got to cut it there on BESSA
because we flat out of time, and folks just to
contact the Universal African People's Organization to reach brother Zachi.
Thank you both of you for joining us this morning.
Family class is dismissed. Stay strong, stay positive, please stay healthy.
We'll see you tomorrow morning, six o'clock right here in
Baltimore on ten ten WLB and also on the DMV
on FM ninety five point nine and AM fourteen fifty

(03:09:41):
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